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Speaker 1: For members only. Golf Smarter number three hundred and eighty three,

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published on May seven, twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain

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Speaker 3: You can make every put if your definition of making

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a putt is getting it started just the way you

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want it, and if you do, that's all you can control.

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After that, all you can do to root for it.

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It's like a relay race. Fred. In a relay race,

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what is your job? You have a two person race,

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and you go first. Your first job is to run

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your leg of the race the best you can. That's

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your stroke in putting. Once the putter head gets to

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the ball, that's the same thing as your hand off

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of the baton. After you've handed off the baton, that's

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your transfer of energy from the potter head to the ball.

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All you want to focus on is making a good handoff.

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What happens if you're looking at the finish line. While

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you're trying to hand off the baton, it's gonna be

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a bad handoff. Maybe you'll drop it. And what if

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you don't trust the person and you don't let go

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after you hand off the baton, you keep running along

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with them and hold the baton. That's not gonna help them.

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If you hand off the baton but you don't trust

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them and you give them a shove towards the finish line,

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that's not going to help them either. The off that's

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exactly your partner in this relay races the ball. All

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you want to do is make a good handoff and

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get it started. After that, it's the ball's job to

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find the hole.

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Speaker 1: That's the secret to it in Golf's game within the game.

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Part two with Doctor Joseph Parent.

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Speaker 2: This is Golf Smarter.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Golf Smarter for members only, Doctor Joe.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Fred, great to be with you again and again.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate the additional time that you're providing for us,

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all because you have an Eastern wisdom about you that

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we like to bring with us to the golf course

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every time. Thank you, that was not patronizing. I really

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believe that.

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Speaker 3: Well, we've been doing this for a long time and

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I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have as do. I all right, this new

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book really really good. You know, if I can just

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do a podcast on putting every single week, I would

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because I find it to be so important. I mean,

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it's got to be right because even on the scorecard

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they give you two strokes, you know, for.

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Speaker 3: True, that's true when you think of what the you

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know what par is, it's how many shots.

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Speaker 1: It's thirty six shots on the course and thirty six

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on the putting green.

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Speaker 3: How many shots it would typically take to get to

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the green plus two for putting right, So that's half

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year round, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: So you know, but because of my attention issues, I

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couldn't do a podcast on putting every week. I got

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to vary the topics or I'd go out of my mind.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Well, there's a lot, there's you know, there's a

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lot more to golf to it than than just putting.

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But but it really is where the mental game comes

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in the most. And that's what I end up working

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with students the most on is short gaming putting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean we've had people from U and

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I've I've always wanted to get You mentioned doctor Craig's

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Craig Farnsworth because I just recently we did a show

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on Lakina the JD the general manager there, he was

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on the show. I played around down there, and I

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would love to get doctor Craig on. And we have

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We've talked about aim point, We've we have Jeff Mangum.

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So we talk a lot about putting because it is

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so critically important and I think one of the things

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that more I see more people struggling with than anything

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is reading the greens. Do you hold the putter in

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front of your and try to make it, you know,

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a plumb bob line, or do you you crawl around

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on the ground and you know, do these bizarre positions

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and reading the greens is is probably harder than stroking

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the ball.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I have a particular approach to reading

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greens that I think is very very helpful. And then

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then I have something in the in my routine that

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lets people get better at reading greens as they play.

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I think that's the really special thing that I offer. Yeah,

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but the starting perspective is I like to quote Jack

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Nicholas who said, I start reading the green from fifty

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yards away, and that is looking at the overall lay

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of the land. I start even sooner than that. I

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start before I go out for the round. If it's

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a new course, I go to the pro shop and

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I ask somebody there is there any Is there any

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direction that almost all the greens in the course tend

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to break towards. For example, out in you were talking

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about Lakinta out in the Coachelli Valley with palm desert

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and palm springs, everything breaks towards the east. They say

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towards India, which is the farthest east town in the valley,

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but it's actually breaking towards the salt and sea, this

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very low body of water out east of the valley.

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where they have the Los Angeles Open, everything breaks towards

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the sixth green and the seventh tee, that corner of

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the golf course away from the clubhouse, which is way

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up on a hill. So you want to know the

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overall lay of the land and any particular major direction

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that the course. We just were at the Masters. Every

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putt breaks towards Ray's Creek at the Masters. And if

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you know that it helps. It makes a difference in

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how you read the putts. So you start before you

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even get on the course. So what's the overall landscape?

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Are there mountains in one direction? Is the ocean in

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one direction? Then you come in closer, and then you say, okay,

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for this particular green, where is the high point around

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the green? Is there? You know? Is there a creek nearby?

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Is there a pond to one side? And look around

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the edge of the green where there are bunkers. Golf

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course designers don't They don't want the water to run

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through a bunker when it's draining off the green, So

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the drain place will be a place away from the bunkers.

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And not only that, wherever you have a bunker, people

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have been hitting sand out onto the green, so they've

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essentially been top dressing it every day. And the level

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of the green near the bunkers gets a little bit higher,

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So know that balls are going to break a little

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bit away from the bunkers. So this way you go

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from outside to end and then you get and then

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you start looking at the area around your putt. But

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you take all these other factors into account.

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Speaker 1: First, how often when you have gone into the pro

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shop and asked them about the general direction of where

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balls will will break towards. Have they ever said the

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sprinkler drain the drainage? I mean because when I've I've

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talked to golf course architects and asked him about that

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kind of thing, and they said, it's always gonna there's

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no such thing as a flat green because it's gotta

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it's got a drain and it's gonna drain too, you know,

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I mean, do they do they make the drainage in

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that same direction?

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Speaker 3: Is oh? Not necessarily not. It doesn't necessarily match the

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overall Yeah, slope of the of the golf course. Every holes,

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every hole is different in that way. So so the

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way that it's designed, it doesn't necessarily match. But you

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have to take all these factors. It's almost like vectors

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or arrows that you say, well, i've got some of

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it going in that direction, and then there's this counter

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force going in this direction. Oh, you know, I think

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they even out and it's really going to be straight.

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thing is once you've read the green, and once you've

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read your putt, you make a commitment to get it

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started on the line that you saw. And if you

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roll it on the line and it doesn't do what

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you thought, this is where learning can come in. And

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this is what I teach in the book How to

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Make Every Putt. I talk about the post shot routine,

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which is if after your putt, you made your putt,

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it got started and going okay, this should turn out

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really well, and then it turns either in the opposite direction,

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or it doesn't move the way you thought it would,

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or it goes way past where you thought or way

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short of where you thought. Then you say, huh, okay,

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I hit the putt that I thought was going to

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get to the hole, but it went a different direction.

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the direction of the break or what did I see

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that wasn't there? And I have what's called I have

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you be what's called the objective detective. So you drop

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your emotion about having missed the putt and you say, okay,

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I'm over that. Now what can I learn from this? Okay?

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I thought it was going to keep breaking and it

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straightened out. Okay, I see, So that means the fall

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line was kind of in this direction. I need to

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remember that, so that I just put to the fall line.

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I don't think it's going to break across the fall line.

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And I talk about that in a chapter called Rivers

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and Fountains that talks about the pattern of how putts

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break uphill and downhill.

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Speaker 1: Excellent is that one of the chapters that has a

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QR code that we can see a video as well.

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Speaker 3: That is in how to make every put in the

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section on reading Green is a chapter called Rivers and Fountains,

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and there is a QR square or code that you

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can scan in to your device or smartphone and it'll

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take you to a video that I demonstrate, and you'll

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see a downhill putt that is cur curving, curving and

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then straightens out and doesn't keep curving, which is what

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downhillputs tend to do. Once they like a river, once

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it finds its fall line straight down towards the ocean,

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it just goes straight. And then uphill putts they might

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go straight, but like a fountain, the water in a

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fountain wants to turn around and go back to the

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earth any direction it can. Uphill puts straight, straight, straight,

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and just before they get to the hole, they break

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across and curve away in front, so you need to

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be able to recognize that pattern and read the green

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Speaker 1: Well, let's stay on that. Section two. Those are the

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bread from the new book How to Make Every put

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by Doctor Joseph Parrot, and it starts with the secret

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to reading greens, the lay of the land, take the

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high road. You talk about putting a scorecard over half

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the hole.

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Speaker 3: That's right now.

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Speaker 1: That that intrigued me. I've never heard of that before.

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Give me the details on that one, because I thought

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that was really fascinating.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, you know, if you're looking at the whole

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golf hole, you don't get to focus on the high

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side quite so much. So let's say you have a

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right to left breaking putt and you're gonna put it

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up the hill and it's going to come back down

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and go in the right side of the hole. That's

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the place you want to be looking at for your read.

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So you cover the bottom half of the hole with

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a scorecard.

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Speaker 1: You say, I need to define bottom here are you talking.

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Speaker 3: About edge of the lower the edge of the scorecard.

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I'll try to describe it as I do in the book.

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The edge of the scorecard points straight across the center

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of the hole and points straight at your ball. Okay,

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so if it was a dead straight putt, you would

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hit right. The ball would hit right at the place

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where the scorecard is at the front edge of the hole.

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But you're looking at breaking putts, so the high side

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will be open, the low side closed by the scorecard.

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Speaker 1: And the advantage of this.

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Speaker 3: The advantage of it is you see yourself trying to

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put it in the high side, the effective center of

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the hole shifts up to the high side of the hole,

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and you say, that's where I want the ball, crossing

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the edge up there, and that gives you more room.

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hundred years ago. He says, you know, a ball turning

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towards the hole is much more likely to go in,

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and that means coming from the high side, then a

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ball turning away from the hole. And once it turns

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away from the hole and rolls down the low side,

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every inch it rolls it takes it farther from the hole.

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same pace, and one curls around the hole above it

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on the high side, and one misses the hole below it.

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going to roll a whole lot farther away. I mean,

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that's why they call the high side the pro side

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and the low side of the hole the amateur side. Sure,

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there's a reason for it. It's better try to play

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as much break as you possibly can and still have

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the ball trickle in just into the top side of

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the hole, the high side of the hole.

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Speaker 1: How do we amateurs misread it in the sense of

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not giving it enough break?

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Speaker 3: Well, almost always that's the most common thing. And I

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think that the way they describe putts on TV actually

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is misguiding. And they say, I think it's just going

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to you know, it's one cup out or two balls

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out to the right. It's really usually much much more

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than that, but that's how they describe it. I was

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once at the Masters coaching VJ and we were standing

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on the green and he was putting this on the

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practice screen on a very severely sloping part, and I

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said to his caddy, you need to tell him to

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aim at this spot because that's really how much break

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is going to happen here. And he says, there is

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no way that I'm going to tell VJ that there's

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two and a half feet of break on a four

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foot putt, But there was. It was really true. Wow,

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I said, then just tell him to play enough break

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for it to fall in the absolute top of the hole.

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And that worked for him.

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: So what happens for amateurs is they aim, you know,

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one or two balls to the right of the hole,

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but then when they make their stroke, they push the

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putt out towards the break or pull it across and

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give it more break, and then they think they did

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it right, and that's just going to be very inconsistent.

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of break and hit a straight putt right at the

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point where you know that you're aiming for that amount

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of break. Then if you've played too much break, it's

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easier to gear down than it is to aim higher. Yes,

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so that's one of the exercises I give. I say,

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aim way up high, aim for tons of break, and

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see that it only gets within a foot of the hole.

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Then gear it down a couple of inches. See where

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that ends up. And that'll help you see how much

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break you can play and still get to the hole

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and that's the ideal amount that you one.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is just a personal preference

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thing or it's something that should be taught this way.

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It's just an individual When I when I'm looking at

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the line, uh unputting and someone says, yeah, it's just

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like one one cup to the right, you know, I don't.

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I don't aim it for that spot.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: At the whole what I try to visualize is the

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entire line. And we talked about this earlier, the entire

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line that the ball will roll on, and I look

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for the apex. I look for the point where I

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think it's gonna be the highest spot and then it's gonna,

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you know, then start going back towards the hole. So

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I kind of putt to that way, to that direction.

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Speaker 3: I think that that's good. Uh. One of the dangers

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of that is if you if the apex is near you,

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you may not hit it hard enough. So again, you

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do want to see the whole thing. You don't need

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to see you see, you don't need to see the

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apex particularly. You can see that, but that's part of

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the whole path that the putt's going to take, the

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whole line that it's going to roll on And the

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most important thing you want to say is well, for

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it to get up to that apex where what direction

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does it need to start in? You might not be

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aiming straight at that apex point because it may break

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a little bit before it gets to that high point.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean if it's going to round off,

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it's definitely not exact. I can't go right to it

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a right angle turn.

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Speaker 3: It is not so. And you may be actually aiming

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further out than that apex point. But you want to

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see the whole path and then see what the first

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foot of the role is and set your putter face

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perpendicularly to that first foot, and then you roll a

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straight putt in that direction. The only question is how

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big a stroke you make. But you make the same

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stroke every time, and you roll it where the putterface

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is pointing every single time, no pushing, no pulling ever.

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Speaker 1: In your eyes directly you will? What about your eyes?

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Let let me let you answer the question instead of

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trying to lead you with it. Your eyes.

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Speaker 3: Tell where you can tell where your eyes are just

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by you know, take your putter stance and then then

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use two fingers to hold the tip of your putter

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and look down the shaft and see where it's pointing.

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Is it pointing straight at your at at the ball

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or are you most most putters, most golfers are way inside.

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In other words, their eyes aren't directly over the ball.

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They're they're away from the ball. Uh, and they're reaching

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out with the putter. Now, what I found is it

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creates an optical illusion. You have less angles if your

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eyes are right over the ball, So it creates an

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optical illusion. And players tend to aim farther away from

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If you're a right handed golfer, they tend to aim

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to the right the further away they are from the ball.

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So you need to you need to have your eyes

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at least near the ball or hang or straight over

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it in your position. And then the other aspect is

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if your eyes are slightly behind the ball, in other words,

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away from the hole, it's easier to look down the line.

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If your head gets ahead of the ball and your

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head is between the ball and the hole, you're kind

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of looking back down towards the ball and then over

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towards the hole, then back down towards the ball. Get

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in there behind it a little bit and you'll be

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looking down the line and see the ball as well

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a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Better and your eyes during the stroke. I know that

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I tend to have a tendency to like as soon

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as the ball. As soon as I make contact with

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the ball, my head starts to turn towards the hole,

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and that kind of strews me up.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to take I'm going to go out

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on a limb, hear Fred, and I'm going to guess

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that it starts to move even before you hit the ball.

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Speaker 1: That's quite possible, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: And I'm going to go out on a limb and

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guess that it tends to move slightly before you hit

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the ball. And that's because we have a human tendency

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to anticipate. We anticipate what's going to happen, and we

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want to see what's going to happen, so we tend

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to move ahead of time. What I'd like you to

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do is I don't like to say keep your head still.

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That's a little too frozen. I want to say, keep

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your head steady and keep your whole posture until you

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hold your finish. And then one of the chapters I

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have that's the end of the routine is then turn

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your head to track rather than lifting your head up

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and lifting your whole body up to turn and look.

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So if you leave your body where it is and

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just swivel your head on your neck, then it doesn't

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move you out of position. But if you lift your

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whole body up, and it's what's called coming up out

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of the pot, that's going to affect your stroke. So

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keep your body steady, keep your head steady until you

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hold the finish of your stroke. Then turn your head

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to look.

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Speaker 1: What about looking at and looking at the ball versus

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looking at the hole while you're putting.

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Speaker 3: While you're putting, some people have done that. They try

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They tried putting looking at the hole, because it's the

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same principle that I talked about in the previous podcast.

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When you're throwing, when you're playing catch with somebody, you

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don't look at the ground. You look at you look

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at their hand or the glove.

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Speaker 1: Right when you're shooting free When you're shooting a basketball,

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you're looking at the rim. You're not looking at the ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can you imagine a basketball player takes a good

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long look at the rim, bounces the ball twice, then

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looks down at the ground. And then shoots while they're

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looking at the ground. Pretty ridiculous, huh, right, that, but

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that's what we do when we're putting. So what I

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found is that we can look at the hole and

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ball at the same time. And here's how you do it.

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There are two kinds of visual inputs to your brain.

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One is the visual input from your eyes what you're

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looking at right now. So for example, you're sitting in

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the studio looking at your computer right correct, Okay, Now

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I want you to picture yourself on the green the

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last time you were playing getting ready to roll the

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put You have yourself pictured. Yes, okay, you didn't have

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to close your eyes to do that. But what was

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in the forefront of your mind? Was it the computer anymore?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: No, but you didn't. You didn't lose track of where

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you were. See, it's like daydreaming. You you had. Your

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memory was the other source of input, visual input into

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your brain. So here's what we're going to do. We're

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going to use that so that we can look at

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the hole and the ball at the same time after

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you take your address. This is part of in the

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section called the best putting Routine Ever. Excuse my modesty,

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but I believe that that it's true. The best putting

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routine ever, that part of that routine is, after you've

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taken your address, you take a good long look and

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imprint the picture of the of your putt, the distance

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to the hole, how uphill or downhill it is. You

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look at the whole thing for two or three seconds.

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I like to have a ton of players to look

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for three seconds at that and imprint that image in

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your mind. When you look back down to the ball,

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take half a second to bring that image to mind,

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to switch foreground and background so that you're using your

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memory as and you put into your memory of that

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image of that picture, and you roll it into the picture.

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So you're looking toward the ball, but you're seeing the

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hole at the same time, in the same way that

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you were just looking toward your computer, but you were

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seeing the green that you were putting on. I like it.

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It works.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like this a lot. I like that.

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Speaker 3: I can. I can.

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Speaker 1: I was visualizing doing it while you were saying it.

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Speaker 3: I like that. And that chapter has a QR code

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at the end. You can scan and it'll show you.

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It'll show you the exercise of me standing with a

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ball in my hand looking down at a ball on

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the ground, I look over at the hole for a

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few seconds, I look back down to the ball of

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the ground, and then I throw the ball while I'm

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imagining and remembering the distance to the hole. Of course,

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we used the cut where it went in and then

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and then I look back down to the ball and

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I do the same thing with the putter and it

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does go in. That that's that's one cut. So that

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worked pretty well.

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Speaker 1: And how many times did you have to do that

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shoot until when the ball went in?

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Speaker 3: Well, I had to do a few throws. But after

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I hold it, then I only did one putt and

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it went in.

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Speaker 1: It works, So yeah, you opened the Let's talk about

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the best putting routine ever. We've built it up quite

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a while. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: Okay. The first step is reading the green and once

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you've done that, making a commitment to your read. You

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take your practice strokes and you make a commitment to

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making the same stroke that you would And I've talked

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about this before, as if you were putting to nowhere.

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When you warm up on the green, you just roll

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the ball till you feel like it's coming off with

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an end over end, roll right off the sweet spot

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of the putter. That's your stroke. Use that same stroke

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every single time. So you commit to your stroke. Make

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a few practice strokes if you want. You set the

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putter on your line, the putterface perpendicular to your line

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behind the ball, and you make a commitment. You say,

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I'm done with direction. That's the direction. I am rolling

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this ball in with my best stroke. So now you've

481
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taken care of stroke and direction once. Once you've done

482
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that in your setup, now you take your good long look.

483
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This is the really important part. You take a good

484
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long look at the distance of your put You look

485
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back down to the ball. You take a third to

486
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a half a second to bring that image to mind,

487
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and then immediately you roll the ball into the picture

488
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using that stroke. What this does is it gets you

489
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thinking out of thinking about your stroke. You're just reacting

490
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to a target in the same way that a free

491
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,480
throw shooter doesn't want to be thinking about their emotion.

492
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They want to be reacting to the distance to the basket.

493
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So you're done with stroke, you're done with direction. You

494
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roll it into the picture for your distance. You hold

495
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the finish that keeps your body steady so you don't

496
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come up out of the putt, and if you want

497
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,519
to look, you turn your head to track. It's called

498
00:27:04,519 --> 00:27:07,079
turn the track, and you turn your head to track

499
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without lifting your shoulders up and coming out of your posture.

500
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That's the ideal routine. And then the last part of

501
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,160
the best putting routine is learn from it. If it

502
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,319
went in, congratulate yourself on doing your routine so well

503
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,359
if it didn't do what you thought it was going

504
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to do, be the objective detective. Don't get upset, Say

505
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:33,720
what did I miss about how I read that putt?

506
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Because I made the putt, the ball just didn't go

507
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,160
in the hole, So what did I miss about the read?

508
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And then you look around and you'll get better at

509
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:44,640
reading every time.

510
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Speaker 1: Awesome, And that kind of it brings us back to

511
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,839
separating outcome from process, which is total doctor Joe.

512
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Speaker 3: Separating outcome from process, that's the whole thing that golfers

513
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:06,279
most difficulties come from worrying about how the SHOT's going

514
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,799
to turn out, and that affects everything that they do.

515
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:13,119
When your job is actually just to get the ball started.

516
00:28:13,519 --> 00:28:15,880
It doesn't matter whether it's putting or driving or anything

517
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,720
in between. You can't determine exactly how the ball is

518
00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:22,240
going to come out. Your job is there at the ball.

519
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,640
It's to get it started. Once you get it started,

520
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that's all you can do. After that, all you can

521
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do is root for it. So, in the same way

522
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:35,599
in putting, how to make every put You can make

523
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,279
every put if your definition of making a putt is

524
00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:41,480
getting it started just the way you want it, and

525
00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:45,039
if you do, that's all you can control. After that,

526
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,200
all you can do to root for it. It's like

527
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,960
a relay race, Fred. In a relay race, what is

528
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:53,200
your job? Your job? If you have a two person

529
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:57,920
race and you go first, your first job is to

530
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,359
run the race of the race the best you can,

531
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and that's that's your stroke. In putting, Okay, once the

532
00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:09,759
putter head gets to the ball, that's the same thing

533
00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:14,640
as your hand off of the baton. After you've handed

534
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,079
off the baton, that's your transfer of energy from the

535
00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:20,839
putter head to the ball. All you want to focus

536
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,880
on is making a good handoff. What happens if you're

537
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,240
looking at the finish line while you're trying to hand

538
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:29,000
off the baton, what's gonna happen?

539
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:31,599
Speaker 1: You're gonna miss the person you're handing it off to.

540
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: Problem, it's gonna be a bad handoff. Maybe you'll drop it, okay,

541
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,720
And what if you don't trust the person and you

542
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:40,160
don't let go after you hand off the baton, you

543
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,319
keep running along with them and hold the baton. That's

544
00:29:43,359 --> 00:29:46,400
not gonna help them. No, if you hand off the

545
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,119
baton but you don't trust them and you give them

546
00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:50,680
a shove towards the finish line, that's not gonna help

547
00:29:50,759 --> 00:29:55,079
them either. That's exactly so you don't want to treat

548
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:57,440
your your partner in this relay race is the ball.

549
00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:00,000
All you want to do is make a good hand

550
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,200
off and get it started. After that, it's the ball's

551
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,079
job to find the hole.

552
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Speaker 1: Go find a hole.

553
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: Jo describe that when you roll a good putt, people

554
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:19,960
describe it. They say that putt made it look like

555
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,519
the ball was hunting for the hole. Yeah, don't that's

556
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,240
that's a common expression in golf.

557
00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:27,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean how many times the ball went

558
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:29,440
and I'm like, I knew that was going in from

559
00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:32,000
the time I set up. I mean, just I felt it,

560
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:34,119
I saw the line, I lived the line. It just

561
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,799
I had no doubt this putt was going in.

562
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Speaker 3: We have those moments and they're they're great. And and

563
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:43,240
you'll notice that when you have those moments, you don't

564
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,880
think about mechanics. Nope, you don't think about your technique.

565
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:49,599
All you do is you see it and you respond

566
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,720
to it and you get it started, and you go,

567
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,440
my job's done. Yeah.

568
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,359
Speaker 1: But then you then you force yourself to try to

569
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recreate that. That's when you when problems begin.

570
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:05,279
Speaker 3: Yes, trying to recreate that. The only way you can

571
00:31:05,319 --> 00:31:08,839
recreate that is to get better at visualizing, because what

572
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,319
you just described was you saw it going in before

573
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:14,599
it ever did. And I have a chapter in how

574
00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:18,400
to make every put called already in the hole. That's

575
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,319
what you want to see. You want to see the

576
00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:23,000
ball already in the hole. And then you're just going

577
00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:24,599
up and doing a replay.

578
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: And hear the happy sound.

579
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: You know what, the happy sound doesn't always show up.

580
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,279
The happy sound I want to hear is wow, I

581
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:37,119
love the way I got that putt started. And if

582
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:39,640
you say that every time you putt, you're going to

583
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,200
be a great cutter, because if you're not holding a

584
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,039
lot of them, it's just about reading. And you'll get

585
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:47,759
better at that as long as you keep making the

586
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:50,640
putt you intend to make, you know.

587
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Speaker 1: Wrapping this up in section seven, it's the title of it.

588
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,319
Sounded familiar.

589
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Speaker 3: Yes, getting better all the time? M h. That's right.

590
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:03,039
That's what you want to be doing when you're playing.

591
00:32:03,359 --> 00:32:05,440
And that's what the post shot routine that I teach

592
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:08,839
really does. It helps you get better all the time

593
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,599
because if you didn't make the putt, if you feel

594
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:14,960
like you know something got in the way, you need

595
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,079
to be able to identify that and make your routine better.

596
00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:22,240
If you did make your putt but the ball didn't

597
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,440
do what you thought it was going to do, then

598
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,759
you have to work on your read and your judgment

599
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:30,319
of speed and that can get better. And what I

600
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:34,319
talk about, what I really like, is a chapter called

601
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,839
skills practice versus performance practice. If you want to improve

602
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,160
your putting, there are two aspects to it. One is

603
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,519
skills practice, and that is doing little drills that make

604
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:49,519
you better at each part of putting. For example, if

605
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:51,720
you want to get better at hitting the ball off

606
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:55,200
the sweet spot, then you need to put You could

607
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,640
even put contact paper on the face that shows where

608
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,039
the was, but you can you want to roll putts

609
00:33:03,119 --> 00:33:05,680
until they all feel the same. You don't need to

610
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,200
do your full routine for that, you just want to

611
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:10,759
You can line up putts and roll one after another

612
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,559
after another. Same thing with using the line on the

613
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:16,960
ball to see if you're rolling an end over end

614
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:21,240
and not hitting a glancing blow. These are all skills practice.

615
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:24,440
But when it comes to performance practice, you want to

616
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,960
practice the way you're going to be playing, which means

617
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,480
one ball and putting to a hole and going through

618
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,759
your full routine each time. Don't get careless, don't shortcut it.

619
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Do performance practice and give yourself target. So can I

620
00:33:41,599 --> 00:33:46,200
put from from different distances to ten different holes on

621
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,839
the practice screen or from ten different places to one

622
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,839
hole on the practice screen and not three putt? That's

623
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,240
my goal, and I'm going to do my full performance,

624
00:33:57,839 --> 00:33:59,839
my full routine, just the way I would on the

625
00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:05,400
golf course. To do that, that's that's performance practice. Those

626
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,119
are the that's the difference between the two.

627
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 1: And it all really leads to whatever book you know

628
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,199
you're going to write, whatever book we're going to read,

629
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:15,840
it's all going to lead back to confidence.

630
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: Confidence. That's what my teacher said, had a favorite expression.

631
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:26,599
Confidence what every golfer needs and and really putting boils

632
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:30,440
down so much more to confidence than just about any

633
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,800
other stroke, because it's not that complicated a stroke. And

634
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,000
if you're not confident, then you're going to second guess

635
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,440
your read. That's not going to help you because you're

636
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,920
gonna have doubt about it. Once you have doubt about

637
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,280
your read, you're going to you're doomed maybe push or

638
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,920
pull or be hesitant on your stroke. If you're not

639
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,840
sure about your stroke, you're going to get very If

640
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,519
you're not confident in your stroke, you're going to get

641
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:57,920
very mechanical, and that's going to take you away. There's

642
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,920
going to be no flow to your stroke. You want.

643
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,039
I have a lot of flow to your putting stroke.

644
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,159
And and if you're not confident about your feel then

645
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,039
you're going to go numb, and you're going to hit

646
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:13,239
putts with different at different paces, and you're always going

647
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,320
to be guessing and and the sense of well, I'm

648
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,559
not sure what's going on, and the feeling of confidence

649
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:25,880
is a completely different thing. The other thing is if

650
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,480
you're not confident, then some fear can come in. And

651
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:32,760
if fear comes in, then you're going to end up

652
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:36,840
with the word that I don't like to use. So

653
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,280
it starts with a Y, it ends with an S,

654
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,360
and it has four letters. And I have a bonus

655
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,159
chapter at the end of the book in case you

656
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,280
have yes the yips don't. If you get the book,

657
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,320
please do not read that last chapter if you don't

658
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,199
already have them. You don't want to be thinking about it.

659
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,679
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because you have.

660
00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 3: Them, that last chapter is for you and it will

661
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,039
cure them.

662
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: Well, that is so funny because I was going to say.

663
00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:05,840
The last thing I was going to say to you

664
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:10,440
was Okay, So is it worth me asking about the yips?

665
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:12,920
Or is that just a whole nother podcast episode.

666
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,119
Speaker 3: I don't We're not even going to put it on

667
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:18,880
the podcast, Okay, I don't want everybody listening to it.

668
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:21,039
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, No, then we're not going to do it.

669
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:29,159
Speaker 3: Special special special code to unlock that podcast unless you

670
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,000
unless you swear that you already have them, you're not

671
00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:34,400
allowed to listen to it because because you don't want

672
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,639
to be thinking about that kind of thing. You don't

673
00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:38,719
want to be thinking about what could go wrong on

674
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,840
the green in any part of your golf game. You

675
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,159
want to be thinking about what you do want to

676
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:48,320
happen having a positive attitude towards it. So, whether it

677
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,199
happens or not, if you have a positive attitude toward it,

678
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:54,559
you're going to have a better chance of producing what

679
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:57,719
you're picturing because, as in one of my chapters in

680
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,280
Zen Golf, you produce what you feel.

681
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,599
Speaker 1: Right right well again, the book is called How to

682
00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:07,440
Make Every Putt, The Secret to winning Golf's game within

683
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,119
the game. Doctor Joseph Parent once again the author of

684
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:14,719
the amazing Zen Golf and now How to Make Every Putt.

685
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,719
Thanks so much for your time. It's great to talk

686
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,679
to you again, and as always I wish you continued success.

687
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 3: Thanks Fred, great to be with you. We'll do it

688
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:24,880
again soon.

