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<v Speaker 1>All right, so we've all seen those scary headlines about

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<v Speaker 1>SEQL injection attacks. But I feel like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are probably thinking, Okay, yeah, that sounds bad, but

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<v Speaker 1>like what does it even mean, right, Like what's actually happening? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's what today's deep dive is all about. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to like really break this down absolutely so

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<v Speaker 1>you understand how these attacks work, what makes them so powerful,

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<v Speaker 1>and even give you a little peak into the hacker's playbook.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like we're unlocking the secrets of one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most common and potentially devastating cyber attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so before we get into the nitty gritty, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to start with the basics. Yeah, like what even

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<v Speaker 1>I sequel? Right, It's not just some random tech acronym, No,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not. It actually stands for something, right it does.

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<v Speaker 2>SQL stands for structured Query language, Okay, and it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a big deal because it's the language that's used

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to databases.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so like plain English isn't going to cut it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not quiet got to speak the databases language exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine you have this library full of information, right, Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a database is like that library and a sequel is

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<v Speaker 2>how you find the exact book you need.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's a good analogy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, anytime i'm online, chopping, logging in whatever, there's

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<v Speaker 1>probably some SEQL action happening behind the scenes to fetch

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<v Speaker 1>my info.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely every time you search for a product, buy something online,

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<v Speaker 2>even just check your account balance. Oh yeah, all those

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<v Speaker 2>actions are being translated into SQL queries behind the scenes. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and those queries tell the database what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's all about giving the database instructions in the

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<v Speaker 1>right language exactly. Okay. Cool. So what are some of

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<v Speaker 1>the big name databases that hackers might be targeting. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a ton like is there a whole ecosystem of

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<v Speaker 1>these things?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are loads. You've got your popular open source

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<v Speaker 2>ones like my sequel, which bowers a lot of websites.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's Squalight, which is kind of a fun fact.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually the most widely deployed SEQL database engine in

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<v Speaker 2>the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's often took away in our mobile apps. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>And of course you've got the heavy hitters like Oracle

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<v Speaker 2>and Microsoft SQL server used by big companies.

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<v Speaker 1>An organization, So all different sizes, all different purposes exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've established that SQL itself isn't the problem, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's more about how it's used exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>SQL injection exploits weaknesses and how applications use SQL.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of like any tool, right, Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>can be used for good or for evil, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about manipulating what you type into those online forms.

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<v Speaker 1>Like log inboxes, search bars, that kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of stuff exactly to sneak in malicious code.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, hold on, So just by typing something into

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<v Speaker 1>a website, you could accidentally inject code.

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<v Speaker 2>Well not accidentally, but how is that even possible? Think

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<v Speaker 2>of it like this. A poorly coded website might take

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you type, okay, and just PLoP it directly into

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<v Speaker 2>an SQL query without checking it first. Oh no, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like leaving a blank check lying around.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's a little terrified.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it can be.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk worst case scenario. What could a hacker

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<v Speaker 1>actually do oh with this kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of access, Well, imagine they gain control of the database

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<v Speaker 2>behind a banking app, right, okay, yeah, they could potentially

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<v Speaker 2>transfer funds, steal personal information, even change account details. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the digital equivalent of breaking into a bank vault.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that is scary. Yeah, and it's not just about

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<v Speaker 1>stealing data, right right, You said they could actually take

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<v Speaker 1>over the whole system.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Think about a hacker getting into the database that

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<v Speaker 2>controls a power grid suddenly turning the lights off in

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<v Speaker 2>a whole city. Isn't just a movie plot anymore. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my goodness, its scary thought. That is really scary, but

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<v Speaker 2>it illustrates the potential impact of SQL injection.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, officially spooked now sorry, No, it's got to know

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<v Speaker 1>the risks, right, So let's talk about how w they

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<v Speaker 1>do this? Okay, what's in a hacker's toolbox when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to sequel injection.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first they do their homework, Okay. They need to

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<v Speaker 2>understand the database's structure, kind of like casing a joint

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<v Speaker 2>before a heist exactly. And one way they do this

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<v Speaker 2>is by intentionally triggering error messages.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so those error messages that websites try to hide

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<v Speaker 1>are actually helpful to hackers. You bet.

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<v Speaker 2>They can reveal all sorts of information about the database

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<v Speaker 2>system being used. Oh wow, like it's version or even

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<v Speaker 2>the specific software running it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like leaving a blueprint lying around exactly, So they're

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<v Speaker 1>basically using the website's own defenses against it pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>That's sneaky, is what else do they do to gather intel?

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<v Speaker 2>They look for default database tables okay. These are like

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<v Speaker 2>standard features that come built in a common One is

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<v Speaker 2>called information schema in my sequel, okay, and it's basically

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<v Speaker 2>a map of the entire database, listing all the tables

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<v Speaker 1>So once they have that map, they know exactly where

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<v Speaker 1>to go for the good stuff exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's where union queries come in.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>These let them combine a legitimate query, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>a normal search, with a malicious one, effectively sneaking out

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<v Speaker 2>sensitive data alongside regular results.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like blending in with the crowd to slip

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<v Speaker 1>past security.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you give us a real world example.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, Let's say you're searching for a product on a website, right, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>an attacker could inject a union query that not only

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<v Speaker 2>searches for that product, but also pulls data from a

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<v Speaker 2>table containing user passwords. Oh no, it's like ordering a

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<v Speaker 2>pizza and getting a side of stolen credit card numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Now that is seriously sneaky.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a clever technique.

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<v Speaker 1>But what if they can't see the actual results of

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<v Speaker 1>the query? Do they just give up?

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all. That's when they resort to brind sql injection.

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<v Speaker 1>Blind's sql injection.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bit like playing a game of twenty questions

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<v Speaker 2>with the database.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty questions. How does that work with the database?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, even if the hacker can't see the data directly,

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<v Speaker 2>they can observe how the website behaves. So they craft

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<v Speaker 2>these queries that force the application to reveal information through

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<v Speaker 2>subtle changes in its responses.

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<v Speaker 1>Like slight delays or different error messages exactly. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>basically interrogating the website piece by piece until they get

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<v Speaker 1>what they want.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. It's a patient game, but it can

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<v Speaker 2>be incredibly effective.

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<v Speaker 1>And I bet sometimes they have tools to automate that process.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely, there are tools out there that can speed

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<v Speaker 2>things up significantly.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, So they have their own little hacking helpers, you

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<v Speaker 1>could say that. Tell me more about these automated tools.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one of the most well known is school map.

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<v Speaker 2>School Map it's a command line tool that can do

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<v Speaker 2>everything from finding vulnerabilities to exploiting them and extracting data.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like an all in one hacking suite pretty much. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's o wasp ziep, which is a really

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<v Speaker 2>popular one. It acts as a proxy to analyze web

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<v Speaker 2>traffic and pinpoint potential attack points.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like a scout looking for weaknesses exactly. So

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<v Speaker 1>with these tools, is it just like point click to

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<v Speaker 1>steal data like hacking for dummies.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not quite. These tools still require skill and knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>to use affect.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can't just be a total newbie and expect

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<v Speaker 1>to hack into the CIA.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's reassuring.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like having a fancy chef's knife. It can help

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<v Speaker 2>you create a masterpiece, but you still need to know

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<v Speaker 2>how to use it properly.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So it's not completely mindless, even with the fancy

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<v Speaker 1>tool exactly. But I have a feeling this isn't just

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<v Speaker 1>a website problem, right, You're absolutely right, Like, it goes

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<v Speaker 1>way beyond that. It does, because any application that interacts

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<v Speaker 1>with a SEQL database is potentially vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 2>Right exactly, Think mobile apps, all those smart devices we

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<v Speaker 2>keep hearing about. Right, even your internet connected refrigerator could

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<v Speaker 2>be at risk.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my guys, now I'm picturing my fridge launching a

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<v Speaker 1>cyber attack.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a whole other level of scary it is. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's shift gears a bit and talk about defenses.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, sounds good, Like, how do.

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<v Speaker 1>We stop these attacks from happening in the first place? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>What are the strategies?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a great question. Yeah, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>dive into all the details after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect. I'm ready to learn how to protect myself from

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<v Speaker 1>these sneaky SQL injection attacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, we'll be back in a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds good.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready for more SQL injection knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent. So let's talk about how to defend ourselves against

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<v Speaker 2>these attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, please give me all the tips and tricks. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first thing to understand is that there's no

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<v Speaker 2>one size fits all solution.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So it's not as simple as just installing an

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<v Speaker 1>antivirus and calling it a day.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, it's a bit more complex than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about taking a multi layered approach to security,

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<v Speaker 2>like a security onion exactly, multiple layers of protection.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>So where do we start. One of the most important

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<v Speaker 2>things is secure coding practices.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so this is about the developers, the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are actually writing the code for these websites and applications exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to be aware of the risks of SQL

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<v Speaker 2>injection right and write code that's designed to prevent it.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're kind of like the first line of defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, they hold.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of power and responsibility for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, one of the key techniques is something called input validation.

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<v Speaker 2>Input validation basically, it's all about making sure that any

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<v Speaker 2>data that a user enters into a website or application

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<v Speaker 2>is checked and sanitized before it's used in a SEQL query.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so kind of like a bouncer at a club

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<v Speaker 1>checking IDs and making sure no one's sneaking in anything they.

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<v Speaker 2>Shouldn't exactly, you got it. Now, there are a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of approaches to input validation, blacklisting and whitelisting.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so blacklist is like a list of bad guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and whitelist is a list of good guys. You got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Blacklisting means blocking specific characters or patterns that are known

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<v Speaker 2>to be used in SQL injection attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>So like those single quotes and semi colons we talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>Earlier exactly. But the problem with blacklisting is that attackers

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<v Speaker 2>are always coming up with new ways to bypass those filters.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So whitelisting is like a more proactive approach exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of trying to block everything that's bad, you only

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<v Speaker 1>So like if you're asking for a name, you only

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. It's a much more restrictive approach, but it can

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes sense. So input validation is crucial, But

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<v Speaker 1>are there other code level defenses that developers should be implementing.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Another very important technique is called parameterized queries. Parameterized queries,

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, instead of directly embedding user input into a SQL query,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like separating the data from the code.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly that way, even if the user tries to inject

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So it's like putting the user input in a

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. Parameterized queries are a very powerful technique

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. And what about things like character encoding and escaping.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are important too. Character encoding is all about making

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like agreeing on a common language for the data.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha. And what about escaping.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like taking away their weapons exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>By adding a backslash in front of these special characters,

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So it's like putting them in quotation marks so

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<v Speaker 2>Character encoding and escaping are essential techniques for making sure

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<v Speaker 1>Great, So we've covered a lot of ground. In terms

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<v Speaker 1>at the platform level?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So that's where things like firewalls and intrusion detection

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so these are like the big guns exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>They're designed to protect the entire system, not just individual applications.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me more about firewalls.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a firewall is basically a barrier between your system

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like a security guard checking everyone's credentials before

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<v Speaker 2>Now. When it comes to protecting against squel injection, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>often hear about something called a web application firewall or

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<v Speaker 2>way for sure. Way's got it away is specifically designed

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's like a specialized firewall that knows how

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<v Speaker 1>to spot those sneaky sequel injection attempts exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It can analyze web traffic for patterns that are common

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty awesome. So it's like having a bodyguard for

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<v Speaker 1>your website tally trained to fend off SQL injection hinjes.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, it's a very powerful tool in the fight against

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<v Speaker 2>sequal injection.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. And what about intrusion detection systems? How do those

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<v Speaker 1>fit into the picture?

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<v Speaker 2>Intrusion detection systems or idss are like security cameras for

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<v Speaker 1>So they're like the watchdogs, always on the lookout for

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<v Speaker 1>trouble exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, unlike firewalls, which block traffic, IDs is don't actually

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<v Speaker 2>stop anything. Their job is to alert administrators if they

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<v Speaker 2>detect something fishy.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like having a security guard who calls the

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. They provide valuable insights into what's happening on your

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes sense. So we've got firewalls blocking bad traffic, IDs,

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<v Speaker 1>watching for suspicious activity, and secure coding practices to make

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<v Speaker 1>our applications less vulnerable in the first place. Right. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a pretty solid defense strategy.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, But remember security is an ongoing process.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not like we could just set it and

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<v Speaker 1>forget it exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Attackers are always coming up with new techniques and finding

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<v Speaker 2>ways to bypass security measures, so.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to constantly adapt and improve our defenses.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it's a constant cat mouse game.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well that's a bit daunting, but it's good to

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<v Speaker 1>know what we're up against.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, but knowledge is power, and now you have

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<v Speaker 2>a much better understanding of how sequel injection works and

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<v Speaker 2>what you can do to protect yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, this has been super informative.

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<v Speaker 2>Glad to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for taking the time to break it all down

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<v Speaker 1>for us, I'm prom it all and to our listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining us on this deep dive into the

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<v Speaker 1>world of sequel injections.

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<v Speaker 2>See safe out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll see you next time for more cybersecurity insights.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds good. All right, So we've covered a lot of ground,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we have. We talked about what sequel injection.

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<v Speaker 2>Is, the basics, how it works, the techniques.

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<v Speaker 1>And even some of the devastating consequences it can have. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But now I want to get into the real nitty gritty, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that keep security professionals up at night. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready because We're about to dive into the advanced

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<v Speaker 1>techniques that make squl injections so potent. Let's do it,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So buckle up because things are about to

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<v Speaker 1>get a whole lot more technical.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about to get interesting. Let's go all right, welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to our deep dive into the world of SEQL injection.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready for more SEQL injection knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent, So let's talk about how to defend ourselves against

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<v Speaker 2>these attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, please give me all the tips and tricks.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. So the first thing to understand is that

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<v Speaker 2>there's no one size fits all solution.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So it's not as simple as just installing an

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, it's a bit more complex than that. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>about taking a multi layered approach to security, like a

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<v Speaker 2>security onion exactly, multiple layers of protection.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>So where do we start. One of the most important

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this is about the developers, the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are actually writing the code for these websites and applications exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to be aware of the risks of SQL

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<v Speaker 2>injection right and write code that's designed to prevent it.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're kind of like the first line of defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, they hold a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of power and responsibility for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, one of the key techniques is something called input validation.

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<v Speaker 2>Input validation basically, it's all about making sure that any

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<v Speaker 2>is checked and sanitized before it's used in an ACYL query.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so kind of like a bouncer at a club

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<v Speaker 1>checking IDs and making sure no one's sneaking in anything

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<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, you got it. Now, there are a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>approaches to input validation, blacklisting and whitelisting.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so blacklist is like a list of bad guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and whitelists is a list of good guys, you got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Blacklisting means blocking specific characters or patterns that are known

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<v Speaker 2>to be used in SQL injection attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>So like those single quotes and semi colons we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about earlier, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But the problem with blacklisting is that attackers are always

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<v Speaker 2>coming up with new ways to bypass those filters.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like a constant arms race, it can be.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where whitelisting comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So whitelisting is like a more proactive approach.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, instead of trying to block everything that's bad, you

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<v Speaker 2>only allow specific characters or formats that are expected and safe.

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<v Speaker 1>So like if you're asking for a name, you only

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<v Speaker 1>allow letters, not numbers or symbols.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. It's a much more restrictive approach, but it can

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<v Speaker 2>be very effective in preventing SQL injection attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes sense. So input validation is crucial. But

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<v Speaker 1>are there other code level defenses that developers should be implementing.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Another very important technique is called parameterized queries. Parameterized queries,

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds fancy, but it's actually pretty simple concepts.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, break it down for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, instead of directly embedding user input into an INSUL query,

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<v Speaker 2>you use placeholders or parameters okay, and then you pass

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<v Speaker 2>the user inputs separately, So it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like separating the data from the code.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly that way, even if the user tries to inject

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<v Speaker 2>malicious code, it's treated as just data, not as part

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<v Speaker 2>of the SQL command.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So it's like putting the user input in the

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<v Speaker 1>little sandbox where it can't do any harm. You got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Parameterized queries are a very powerful technique for preventing SQL

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<v Speaker 2>injection attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. And what about things like character encoding and escaping.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard those terms thrown around in the context of security.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are important too. Character encoding is all about making

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<v Speaker 2>sure that data is stored and transmitted using a consistent format. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like agreeing on a common language for the data.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha. And what about escaping.

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<v Speaker 2>Escaping is a way of neutralizing special characters that might

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<v Speaker 2>be used in SQL injection attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like taking away their weapons exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>By adding a backslash in front of these special characters,

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<v Speaker 2>you're telling the database to treat them as literal characters,

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<v Speaker 2>not as part of in SQL command.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So it's like putting them in quotation marks so

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<v Speaker 1>they can't do any.

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<v Speaker 2>Harm, you, got it. Character encoding and escaping are essential

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<v Speaker 2>techniques for making sure that data is handled safely and securely.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, We've covered a lot of ground in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>code level defenses we have. But what about defenses at

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<v Speaker 1>the platform level? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where things like firewalls and intrusion detection systems

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So these are like the big guns exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>They're designed to protect the entire system, not just individual applications.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me more about firewalls.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a firewall is basically a barrier between your system

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<v Speaker 2>and the outside world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea.

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<v Speaker 2>It examines incoming and outgoing traffic and blocks anything that

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like a security guard checking everyone's credentials before

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<v Speaker 1>letting them in. You got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. When it comes to protecting against SEQL injection, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>often hear about something called a web application firewall or WEF.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure with GOTA, a WEF.

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<v Speaker 2>Is specifically designed to protect web applications from attacks like

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<v Speaker 2>sequel injection.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's like a specialized firewall that knows how

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<v Speaker 1>to spot those sneaky sequal injection attempts.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. It can analyze web traffic for patterns that are

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<v Speaker 2>common in SEA equal injection attacks and block those requests

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<v Speaker 2>before they even reach the application.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty also, So it's like having a bodyguard for

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<v Speaker 1>your website specifically trained to fend off SQL injection.

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<v Speaker 2>Injes Exactly, it's a very powerful tool in the fight

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<v Speaker 2>against SQL injection.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool, And what about intrusion detection systems? How did those

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<v Speaker 1>fit into the picture.

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<v Speaker 2>Intrusion detection systems or idss are like security cameras for

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<v Speaker 2>your network. They constantly monitor traffic for any signs of

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<v Speaker 2>suspicious activity.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're like the watch dogs, always on the lookout

450
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<v Speaker 1>for trouble exactly.

451
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<v Speaker 2>Now, unlike firewalls which block traffic, IDs is don't actually

452
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<v Speaker 2>start anything, okay. Their job is to alert administrators if

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<v Speaker 2>they detect something fishy.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like having a security guard who calls the

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<v Speaker 1>cops if they see someone trying to break in.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. They provide valuable insights into what's happening on your

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<v Speaker 2>network and can help you identify and respond to attacks

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<v Speaker 2>more quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes sense. So we've got firewalls blocking bad traffic, ideas,

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<v Speaker 1>watching for suspicious activity, and secure coding practices to make

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<v Speaker 1>our applications less vulnerable in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like a pretty solid defense strategy. It is.

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<v Speaker 2>But remember security is an ongoing.

465
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<v Speaker 1>Process, so it's not like we can just set it and.

466
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<v Speaker 2>Forget it exactly. Attackers are always coming up with new

467
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<v Speaker 2>techniques and finding ways to bypass security measures.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have to constantly adapt and improve our defenses.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it's a constant cat and mouse game.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well that's a bit daunting, but it's good to

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<v Speaker 1>know what we're up against.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, but knowledge is power, and now you have

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<v Speaker 2>a much better understanding of how seql injection works and

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<v Speaker 2>what you can do to protect yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, this has been super informative.

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<v Speaker 2>Glad to hear it. But now that we've covered the basics,

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<v Speaker 2>let's explore some of the more advanced techniques that make

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<v Speaker 2>this attack so potent.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, time for level two of hacker training. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ready to learn some next level stuff. Where do we begin.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about error based sequel injection. Remember how those

482
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<v Speaker 2>error messages can spill the beans about the database.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like accidentally leaving a secret message on your

484
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<v Speaker 1>voicemail for the that to hear well.

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<v Speaker 2>With air based injection, hackers intentionally trigger specific errors designed

486
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<v Speaker 2>to leak even more sensitive information.

487
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<v Speaker 1>So they're basically forcing the website to make a mistake

488
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<v Speaker 1>and blurt outed secrets.

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely, they might craft a query that causes the database

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<v Speaker 2>to reveal the full path to its file on the server.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like tricking someone into giving away their home address.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm seeing how even small errors can have big consequences.

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<v Speaker 1>What other advanced techniques should we be aware of.

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<v Speaker 2>Another tricky one is boolean based blind sequel injection. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like playing a game of true or false with the database.

496
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<v Speaker 1>So the hacker is asking the database yes or no

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<v Speaker 1>questions to uncover hidden information.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly by carefully crafting these questions, they can gradually extract data,

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<v Speaker 2>even if they can't see the actual results directly. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a slow and meticulous process, but it can be incredibly effective.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they're solving a puzzle, one tiny clue at

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<v Speaker 1>a time. What kind of questions might they ask?

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<v Speaker 2>They might start by trying to determine the database version then,

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<v Speaker 2>and they might try to figure out the name of

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<v Speaker 2>the current database, the names of tables, and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a step by step process of building up

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<v Speaker 1>their knowledge about the.

508
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<v Speaker 2>System right and once they have a good understanding of

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<v Speaker 2>the database structure, they can zero in on the most

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<v Speaker 2>valuable targets, sensitive data like user credentials, financial information, or

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<v Speaker 2>anything else they might be after.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to see how this is so much more

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<v Speaker 1>than just a simple hack. These attackers are methodical and patient,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can't forget about those automated tools they have

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<v Speaker 1>at their disposal.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, tools like squallmap can automate a lot of the process,

517
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<v Speaker 2>making it much faster and easier for hackers to scan

518
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<v Speaker 2>for vulnerabilities, exploit them, and extract data.

519
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<v Speaker 1>So it's like they're using a superpowered search engine to

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<v Speaker 1>find weaknesses and steal information.

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<v Speaker 2>In a way. Yes, they might use skullmap to automatically

522
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<v Speaker 2>enumerate all the databases on a server and then dump

523
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<v Speaker 2>the contents of specific tables that contain sensitive information. But

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<v Speaker 2>even with these tools, they still need some level of

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<v Speaker 2>expertise to interpret the results and to the right attack vectors.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's not quite hacking for dummies, but it does

527
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<v Speaker 1>make their jobs a lot easier. But we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>defenses like WF and IDs. Those must help, right.

529
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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, a well configured web application firewall can act like

530
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<v Speaker 2>a bouncer blocking many common attack patterns used by automated

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<v Speaker 2>tools and intrusion detection systems are like security cameras, constantly

532
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<v Speaker 2>watching for suspicious activity and alerting administrators if something seems off.

533
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<v Speaker 1>So it's like having multiple layers of security to catch

534
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<v Speaker 1>those sneaky attackers. Whether they're using manual or automated techniques exactly.

535
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<v Speaker 2>But even with these defenses in place, it's crucial to

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<v Speaker 2>stay vigilant. Attackers are always developing new techniques and finding

537
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<v Speaker 2>ways to bypass security measures.

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<v Speaker 1>Book a constant cat and mouse game between the attackers

539
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<v Speaker 1>and defenders.

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<v Speaker 2>You could say that cybersecurity is a dynamic field that

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<v Speaker 2>requires ongoing attention and adaptation.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, all this talk about techniques and tools is fascinating,

543
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<v Speaker 1>but I'd love to hear about some real world examples

544
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<v Speaker 1>of SQL injection attacks. What are some high profile cases

545
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<v Speaker 1>that really illustrate the potential damage.

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<v Speaker 2>There have been many, unfortunately. One that stands out is

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<v Speaker 2>the Sony PlayStation network breach back in twenty eleven. It

548
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<v Speaker 2>was a massive incident that resulted in the theft of

549
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<v Speaker 2>personal information, including names, addresses, and even credit card details

550
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<v Speaker 2>for millions of users.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a huge breach. Any other examples that come

552
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<v Speaker 1>to mind?

553
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<v Speaker 2>Another significant case involved Heartland payment systems in two thousand

554
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<v Speaker 2>and eight. It was one of the largest credit card

555
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<v Speaker 2>breaches in history, affecting an estimated one hundred and thirty

556
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<v Speaker 2>million card numbers. And then, of course, there was the

557
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<v Speaker 2>Yahoo data breach in twenty thirteen, where hackers stole data

558
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<v Speaker 2>from billions of user accounts. All of these were the

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<v Speaker 2>result of sequel injection vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so this is not just a theoretical threat. These

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<v Speaker 1>are real companies with real customers suffering real damage. It's

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<v Speaker 1>unsettling to think how much havoc one vulnerability can reak.

563
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<v Speaker 2>It is and while these high profile cases have brought

564
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<v Speaker 2>more attention to the issue, SEQUL injection is still a

565
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<v Speaker 2>pervasive threat.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a st ubn virus that keeps coming back

567
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<v Speaker 1>no matter how many times we try to eradicate it.

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<v Speaker 2>You could say that it's a combination factors including outdated software,

569
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<v Speaker 2>poor coding practices, and the ever increasing complexity of modern applications.

570
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<v Speaker 1>So it's a multifaceted problem that requires a multi pronged

571
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<v Speaker 1>approach to address it. But let's not duell on the negative.

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<v Speaker 1>What are some emerging trends in SQL injection attacks? What

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<v Speaker 1>are hackers up to these days?

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<v Speaker 2>One trend we're seeing is that attack techniques are becoming

575
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<v Speaker 2>increasingly sophisticated. Hackers are using more advanced tools and automation

576
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<v Speaker 2>to scan for vulnerabilities and exploit them. They're also targeting

577
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<v Speaker 2>new types of applications like the Internet of things, right.

578
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<v Speaker 1>Those Internet connected devices we talked about earlier, like smart

579
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<v Speaker 1>refrigerators and thermostats.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, As more and more devices become Internet connected, they

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<v Speaker 2>become potential targets for SQL injection attacks. And because these

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<v Speaker 2>devices often have weaker security measures than traditional computers, they're

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<v Speaker 2>particularly vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 1>So the attack surface is expanding and the attackers are

585
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<v Speaker 1>becoming more sophisticated. What can we do to keep pace.

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<v Speaker 2>With this of threat It all comes down to adopting

587
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<v Speaker 2>a proactive and multi layered approach to security. That means

588
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<v Speaker 2>secure coding practices from the start, robust defenses like WFS

589
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:15.279
<v Speaker 2>and IDs, and continuous monitoring for new threats and vulnerabilities.

590
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<v Speaker 1>So it's like a combination of good hygiene, strong defenses,

591
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<v Speaker 1>and constant vigilance.

592
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<v Speaker 2>Precisely, and it's not just about technology. It's also about

593
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<v Speaker 2>educating users about security best practices, like creating strong passwords

594
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<v Speaker 2>and being wary of phishing emails.

595
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<v Speaker 1>Right, So it's a team effort. Developers, security professionals, and

596
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<v Speaker 1>everyday users all have a role to play in protecting

597
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<v Speaker 1>our data.

598
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Cybersecurity is everyone's responsibility.

599
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<v Speaker 1>That's a powerful message So where do we go from here?

600
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<v Speaker 1>We've covered the technical side, the real world impact, Yeah,

601
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<v Speaker 1>what's left to explore in this deep dive? Right? So

602
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<v Speaker 1>we've explored like the technical nuts and bolts of SQL injection,

603
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<v Speaker 1>seeing how those hackers exploit it, and even peak gets

604
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<v Speaker 1>some real world damage. But now now I'm curious about

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<v Speaker 1>the bigger picture. What the consequences beyond just you know,

606
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<v Speaker 1>stolen data.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good question. One thing a lot of

608
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<v Speaker 2>people don't consider is legal fallout. SEQL injection attacks can

609
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<v Speaker 2>land individuals, A and D organizations in some serious hot water.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking like lawsuits, fines, the whole legal shebang exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of places have laws specifically about protecting sensitive data.

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<v Speaker 2>So if a company gets hacked because of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a SEQL injection flawed they didn't fix, they could be

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<v Speaker 2>slapped with massive fines, lawsuits from people whose data was stolen.

615
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<v Speaker 2>Not to mention the hit to their reputation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that reputational damage that can be hard to recover from.

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<v Speaker 2>It really can.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a digital scarlet letter.

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<v Speaker 2>But what about the hackers themselves? Do they ever face consequences?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, even if someone argues they were just testing a

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<v Speaker 1>website security. Unauthorized access to computer systems is usually illegal,

622
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<v Speaker 1>no matter the intent, So those ethical hacker claims they

623
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<v Speaker 1>don't always hold up in court.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the legal message is pretty clear, protect your

625
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<v Speaker 2>data and don't mess around with other people's systems without permission.

626
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<v Speaker 2>What about the ethical side of.

627
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<v Speaker 1>Things, Well, ethics is all about doing the right thing

628
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<v Speaker 1>even when nobody's looking. In cybersecurity, that translates to using

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<v Speaker 1>your knowledge responsibly. Seql injection it's a powerful tool. In

630
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<v Speaker 1>the right hands, it can help find and fix vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the wrong hands, well, it can cause a

632
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<v Speaker 1>lot of harm. So it's like having a key that

633
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<v Speaker 1>can unlock any door. You could use it to help people, right,

634
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<v Speaker 1>or you could use it to break into their homes.

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<v Speaker 1>Big difference exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Ethical hackers they work openly with permission, trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet a safer place. Malicious hackers they're driven by profit, revenge,

638
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<v Speaker 2>or just plain chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's all about the intent behind the action. Intent

640
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<v Speaker 1>is everything, But regardless of who's doing it, these attacks

641
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<v Speaker 1>have real world economic consequences too, right, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely huge costs for organizations that suffer data breaches. First,

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<v Speaker 2>You've got the immediate costs investigating the breach, notifying everyone affected,

644
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<v Speaker 2>offering c at monitoring services.

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<v Speaker 1>So those fines and lawsuits we talked about, those are

646
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<v Speaker 1>just the tip of the iceberg.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically. Then there are long term costs, the ones that

648
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<v Speaker 2>are harder to measure, like damage to the company's reputation,

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<v Speaker 2>losing customer trust, having to beef up security to prevent

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<v Speaker 2>future attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>It all adds up, and I bid those costs eventually

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<v Speaker 1>trickle down to us, the consumers.

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<v Speaker 2>Sadly, yeah, we end up paying higher prices, increased insurance premiums,

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<v Speaker 2>and dealing with the hassle of changing passwords and monitoring

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<v Speaker 2>our credit reports, all because of someone else's security failures.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy how something so technical can have such a

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<v Speaker 1>wide ranging impact. What can be done on a larger scale, though,

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<v Speaker 1>What role do governments in industry groups play in fighting

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<v Speaker 1>sequel injection?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, governments are important for setting standards, creating regulations, and

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<v Speaker 2>enforcing laws that protect data, kind of like the referees

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<v Speaker 2>making sure everyone plays by the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm guessing industry groups from more like the coaches exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Organizations like oh OFF, the Open Web Application Security Project

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<v Speaker 2>They do a lot to raise awareness about these vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 2>They develop those best practices, offer training, and create resources

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<v Speaker 2>to help companies improve their security.

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<v Speaker 1>So it sounds like it takes a village government setting

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<v Speaker 1>the rules, industry experts providing the tools, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>individual companies actually implementing those measures.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. It's a shared responsibility. Everyone has to

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<v Speaker 2>work together.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we've got this multi prommed approach, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>be realistic for a second. Can we ever really get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of SQL injection completely? I feel like as long

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<v Speaker 1>as there's software, there's going to be these vulnerabilities, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right. As long as software exists, there will be

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<v Speaker 2>bugs and hackers will try to exploit them. It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like playing whack a mole. You fix one vulnerability

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<v Speaker 2>and another one pops up.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's more about managing the risk than eliminating it entirely.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, by writing secure code, implementing those defenses, and staying informed,

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<v Speaker 2>we can make it much harder for those attacks to succeed.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's not about being parento, it's about being prepared.

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<v Speaker 2>Preparedness is key.

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<v Speaker 1>Any final words of wisdom for our listeners as we

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<v Speaker 1>wrap up this deep dive.

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<v Speaker 2>Sequel injection is serious, but it's not unbeatable. Knowledge is power,

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<v Speaker 2>and now you understand how these attacks work and what

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<v Speaker 2>you can do to protect yourself and your data.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome to recap. Squel injection is a real danger, but

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<v Speaker 1>there are defenses out there. Be aware, be prepared, and

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<v Speaker 1>don't be afraid to learn more about cybersecurity. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us on this deep dive into the world of

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<v Speaker 1>sequel injection. Until next time, stay safe online.