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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. It's Wednesday pump Day, Rob Bino.

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It's time for full court press. Rob has already complimented

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me on my attire, so let's start there. How the

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night go last night? Well, for me one to know,

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I had one play. It was this five per center

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and it won easily. Poor Virginia Tech, rob they can't

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they cannot catch a break at the end of a

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basketball game.

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Speaker 2: If you're not.

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Speaker 1: Sure what I'm talking about, just go look at how

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they've lost games this year. I think they've been beat

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now at the buzzer three times, and then last night

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they had a chance to win at the buzzer, it

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rolled off the rim. Some might say there was a

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foul that should have been called. Yours truly was happy

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that there wasn't a foul called because of course that

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would would have resulted in a guaranteed split of those

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free throws and then me having to sweat eight and

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a half in overtime.

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Speaker 2: So we're happy that didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Sorry for VT, I suppose, but we got the money

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at plus eight and a half, Robino, how was your

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night last night?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was not the best.

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Speaker 3: At him it was a two and three night slight

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give back off of the three and OL on Monday,

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and I kicked myself, well, I don't know if I

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can't kick myself at him because of the swiftness of

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the line movement that the deal breaker was the NC

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State team total over and early morning it was eighty

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and a half eighty one and a half, and I

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was sitting there.

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Speaker 4: Waiting on the Rivasar news.

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Speaker 3: And I probably waited too long because then Vassar got

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ruled out for sure, moved to eighty two and a half.

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I went ahead and played it, or excuse me, I played.

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Speaker 4: It before he was officially ruled out. It moved up

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to eighty two and a half.

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Speaker 3: So it looked like the inclination was he's gonna be

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out played.

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Speaker 4: At eighty two and a half.

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Speaker 3: He does get ruled out, totally crashes. NC State team

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total crashes all the way to eighty and a half

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by game time and they score eighty two. So if

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I had if I had gone thirty minutes sooner or

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waited thirty minutes longer, I'd have been on the good

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side of the number. Instead, I was caught right in

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that trap where I was on the hook side of

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the number and that made the difference in the night,

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but still a pretty good handicap in my estimation, because

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NC State did roll. North Carolina got away with what

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they got away with on Saturday against Pitt couldn't get

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away with it against NC State after Will Wade called

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them out. And by the way, I don't want to

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get too far off topic. We got a lot of

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games to go here. But the mc cronin thing, I mean,

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did the world just wake up and realize that McK

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cronin is a grouchy old coach for the last twenty

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years and everybody's on Nick Cronin today. You could have

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been on him since two thousand and six at Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: I joked on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I was like, it felt like it felt like WWF

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Jonathan Coachman having an interview, like you know, like one

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of the heels after losing a match and you just

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got like shoved into a locker like it was a

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reasonable question. But anyway, yeah, before we know, I'll get

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the promo done now before we get into the show.

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Speaker 2: I the what have you done for me lately? Crowd?

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I did see was out on Twitter last night.

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Speaker 1: All I have to say is Rob carried the double

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the Firepower package for like the first two months of

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the season, so if.

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Speaker 2: You're new here, I'm hot right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to try to return the favor because

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I mean, I'm still looking up at you on the leaderboard.

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So I'm just happy to be able to to sort

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of bounce back because when I was losing in November

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and December, you were just red hot. And I think

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you're still probably near the very top of the leaderboard

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college basketball. So that's that's what you. You know, we

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hope to bring you enough winning angles. Like again last

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night night, if you're on the package two and three

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plus a five percent winning, you still probably came out ahead.

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Monday we went a combined six and oh, so you've

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got the double the Firepower CBB package. Girls at wager

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Talk Home office who do the customer support said, if

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you email in and ask, so right now, we both

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have a discounted rest of year package up on our page.

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If you email in, say something nice. You don't have

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to say something nice, but you should because they're the

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hardest working people in the business. I can't I mean, Rob,

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we've got people asking for timestamps while the show is

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going on. So I can't imagine what these animals are

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asking our customer support team, but.

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Speaker 2: They're the best in the business.

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Speaker 1: Tell them you want both of us rest of the

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season and they will give you. What I hear is

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a pretty substantial discount on full season CBB the rest

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of the way.

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Speaker 2: So we'll get right into it.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: That's enough promo. We've got people filing in.

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Speaker 1: I was able to tweet this out to YouTube or

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I'm sorry to Twitter since they don't put it up

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automatic anymore.

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Speaker 2: So let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Feature game today that I chose out West nine PM

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one of two matchups ranked team versus ranked team. But

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rob Bino, one of these teams might not be ranked

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very much longer, and that might be the BYU Cougars, who, man,

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I don't want to say their season is over because

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they're still a capable basketball team. They're still likely and

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you know they're still gonna go to the NCAA tournament.

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But this team can't seem to catch a break. The

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schedule has been insane. They seem to catch every team,

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like off of the loss, they seem to catch every

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team when they're in a spot where they're they're the

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other team is in the spot where they're probably gonna win. That's,

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of course, Arizona after they finally have a couple losses.

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Now you go into this game without Richie Saunders. I

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think that's probably baked into the number here at this point.

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But talk to me a little bit about, like, do

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the odds makers have they been able to quantify the

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Saunders loss into the number side or total, because that's

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gonna be tough to do in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, well the number is big, right, twelve.

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But let's just start by saying this. I've talked often

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on this show about believing that BYU is just limited,

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very limited depth. Ways you give me their starting five,

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I'll take them to any court, neutral, away home, and

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we'll play. May not win them all, but you're going

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to be competitive with the elite teams in the nation

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if you have BYU starting five. It's the bench that's

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been a problem. There's not a lot of quality depth

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on this team. And now you take away probably the

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most experienced player that they have on the squad in

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Richie Saunders, certainly in my estimation, the best long distance

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shooter that they have on this team in Richie Saunders.

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team at that level, at the level at Saunders, is

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that you got issues. There's no question, Adam, these minutes

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that the starters have had to play throughout this rugged schedule,

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like you just mentioned, they're adding up now in late

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February as we had late February, and I do worry

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about BYU down the road. To tell you the truth,

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these minutes aren't going to ease up on the four

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guys that remain starters. Somebody's got to carry the load.

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Somebody's got to pick up the fifteen or so points

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that Richie Saunders scores per game. And AJ Debunst is fine,

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he's gonna be a top five draft pick. But when

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you're the target of every opposing defense every night. As

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crunch time, everybody's looking to win now, it's going to

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be difficult for BYU.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they can.

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Speaker 3: Get through it on emotion for a game or two,

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but come Big twelve Conference tournament time, come in CAA

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tournament time, you're gonna hear a lot of bally who

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about de Bansta and Byu And it's just not going

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to be there anymore because the Saunders injury to me

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is that key twelve and a half. Here, you're catching

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Arizona in a situation that you don't want to catch

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them in, like you just mentioned, but you don't want

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to play them now off of a pair of losses.

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So twelve and a half looks big, But Arizona's got

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the capability to get to ninety BYU's defense, as we

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Speaker 4: Again. It's not the best BYU.

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Speaker 3: May get murdered on the boards here too, Adam. I

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gotta say this is going to be a tough matchup.

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While the number looks big, I would still think you

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have to play Arizona in this instance, BYU. If you're

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looking at direction, maybe I can't even say get in

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and get out with the first half, because Arizona should

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come out in their home court breathing fire tonight from

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the opening tip. For me, it would be Arizona in

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this case. I think they can win it by fifteen

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plus totals risen all the way to one sixty four

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and a half. Just gonna get a good quick check

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of the current team totals here eighty eight and a

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half and seventy six and a half. I'll tell you what,

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BYU at seventy six and a half, let's not play it,

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but let's give that a pretty good monitoring tonight to

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see how much they can score without Saunders against a

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defense like this, because it could be that we could

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make some money on BYU team totals to the under

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down the stretch here and vice versa. We can probably

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make money betting against the BYU defense fading that defense

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down the stretch, because, like I said, the workload on

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the four main guys is just it's insane to begin with,

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and it's just gonna get that much increased without Richie Saunders.

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Speaker 1: I want to stay on the topic of Saunders because

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I feel like that is basically the handicap here. I

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actually think the books odds makers did a surprisingly good

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job of pricing this game. I actually thought that there

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would be an end to this game from a number standpoint,

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because obviously, taking Saunders out is probably more drastic than

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people would think. Like he's he's probably like he's almost

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worth as much as Devansda in a lot of cases

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because and here I'm gonna explain why so, Saunders is

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the highest on off of anyone I think on that team,

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and he's very high up in the country in terms

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of like BYU's.

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Speaker 2: Plus minus with him on the floor him off the floor.

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Speaker 1: I think that the reason for that is Devanster though,

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so understand that, like the reason that Saunders has the

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success he has is because of the attention that is

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paid to Aj Devansta. So I'm not saying that Saunders

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is a better basketball player than the bandst but on

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this team, with the attention that is paid to Aj Devansta,

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Speaker 2: Like almost the more productive player at times.

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Speaker 1: I was at the BYU Kansas game, Robino, that was

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you know, as I'm sitting right there watching, that was

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very apparent to me being in the building watching that

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game up close. The bands to so frustrated Kansas came

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out and said, you're not beating us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's just it. You're not gonna beat us.

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Speaker 1: They were all over him and it really took until

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the second half for BYU to get back into that game.

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because Saunders just went nuclear from distance and he started

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hitting every shot and suddenly you know, suddenly they had

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you know, BYU was down over twenty in that game

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and suddenly they're right back in it because of Ritchie Saunders.

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Arizona can do that to BYU. Arizona can take the

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bands out of the game and force someone else to

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beat them. But now you don't really have the someone else,

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and that that is the problem that I think is

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maybe a bigger problem than even even as being made

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by the total here, so I could not get there

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with the side. I feel like that number is pretty

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much spot on. I wouldn't be surprised. We've talked about

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this on the show number of times. Rob like team like,

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just because the number is on, doesn't mean Arizona's not

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covering it, right, Like teams can cover premium numbers. If

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you were going to pick a team to cover a

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premium number, Arizona's probably on like one of those, like

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to do that. On the other side, I think I

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like the BYU team total because if they do take

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advance out of this game, you're talking about meeting like

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Rob Wright to go nuts, and you're gonna need a

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very inconsistent option.

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Speaker 2: Really outside of right.

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Speaker 1: Everyone else has been very inconsistent for BYU from a

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scoring standpoint.

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Speaker 2: This year.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna need one of those guys probably just to

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hang in this game. If you don't get it, it

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could be good night, down thirty and then BYU maybe scoring,

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you know, maybe being lucky to break seventy.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I'm with you, Rob.

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Speaker 1: I Look, I have a lean toward the full game

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under though I think they did a better job of

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pricing it than I thought they would. And so maybe

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the way to go is the BYU team total under.

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Maybe there's more wiggle on the team total than the

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full game total.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you know, And I'll just clarify real quick

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for those watching and made question when I talk about

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lack of depth, especially where BYU is concerned, and you

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got to the point here too, Adam, it's lack of

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quality depth. Like you just said after Robert, right after Rob, right,

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where's the where's that legitimate scoring coming from? I mean,

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there could be a one off on any night where

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somebody goes crazy, but where's the quality consistent score the

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third scorer? Now, once Debans is targeted, which he's been

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all season long, Like you say, that's why Saunders was

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able to get open looks. He buries open looks. Boy,

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It's it's hard because they just don't have another guy

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well that I've seen. Somebody's gonna have to step up.

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Playing simple and at seventy six and a half for

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a team total. If in fact Arizona in this position

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of needing a win here or wanting a.

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Speaker 4: Win, let's put it that way.

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Speaker 3: They don't need a win, but they want to win,

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you know, takes the bens to somewhat out of the game.

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It's problematic for this team, and I think it's going

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to be problematic down the road until they find another guy.

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Kevin Young head coach here, got to developed something because

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otherwise it's going to be quick Exits Conference tournament, NCAA tournament.

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I wonder how they you know, how the committee will

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view this team, Adam if they if they faltered down

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the stretch here really bad.

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Speaker 1: You know, some thought Dawson Baker would take a step

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forward this year. He got hurt early in the season.

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Canard Davis has kind of been awful. He was he

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was someone that came over averaged sixteen point three points

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per game for Southern Illinois last year.

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Speaker 2: He really hasn't shown the ability to play at this level.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you have to start looking at

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EYU for what they are now, and because I think

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people will have a hard time doing that.

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Speaker 2: When I just the average better will have a hard

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time doing that. For a couple of games.

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Speaker 1: This might be your window to make some money on

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that that fading BYU from a production standpoint. Like I said,

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I don't know if I want to, Like, they may

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be able to clip this at the end and get

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within within twelve or whatever it is, but I'd be

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surprised if they get up and over that team total.

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Speaker 2: So I'm with you on that, Rob.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of team totals and team total unders, I'm going

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to go to our guy Brian Power, who came in

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yesterday hit Arizona State first half.

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Speaker 2: They end up winning the game.

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Speaker 1: We cashed the three teamer for the show, which Rob Bino,

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we are now ahead on the season. We are batt

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I mean we've been We've been battling that uphill battle

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for five or six weeks now, I think with the

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parlays and after last night, the three teamer has put

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us up zero point seven to one units on the season.

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So we are we are basically back to even we'll

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call it.

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Speaker 2: And so I've invited BP to join again.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty much gonna invite him to join until he

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loses at this point, and we'll go three teamer and

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see if we can really run it up.

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Speaker 2: Now, Brian Power.

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Speaker 1: Has given me a game today and he likes an

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under And you know, I kind of discarded this game

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pretty quickly because I've been doing it all year with

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Loyola Chicago, and that's the game we're going to talk

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about right now, Loyola Chicago ford him.

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Speaker 2: I've said on this show a number of times that.

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Speaker 1: I've pretty much had to just I've had to just

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throw Loyola Chicago out. They I can't remember a team

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rob that has been all for free an entire season.

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Has been so far off of like what the average

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expectation for the team was coming into the year. Not

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like okay, like you know some like yes, there's always

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you got three hundred and sixty five teams, there's always

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going to be teams that out way out perform, way underperformed,

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but like this was a team consensus that was like

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up near the top of the Atlantic ten and they

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have been so far from that that I just haven't

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even really tried to get involved with betting a side

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or total in their games because the way my brain

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works RAB, I'm always like, well, is there is there

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any sort of like, you know, bounce back run figuring

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it out that happens with this team? So I've had

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no interest on playing their sides. But if I go

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to my projections here and I'll kind of like set

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this up for you. So Brian likes the team total

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under for Fordham in this game from a basketball sense.

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I can't argue with him because I don't really care

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for either of these teams from an offensive standpoint. So

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he likes Fordham team total under seventy three and a

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half my projection for this game. Of course, I've lost

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my spot because, like you, Rob, I just live with

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papers all over the place everywhere. I had this projected

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from a from on Fordham side. Seventy two and a

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half is what I project their total to be for

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this game. So even though that's not nearly a big

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enough a big enough sort of deviation to really bring

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it up, I guess it does lean toward Brian liking

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the team total under Now, if you want to hear

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what Brian Power has to say about this game, go

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check out Morning Wager. He talks about it with Mark Zeno.

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He texted me this morning. He said, Trig, you know,

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I really love my breakdown for this game. So make

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sure you go and check out the replay of Morning

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Wager on the wager Talk YouTube channel. But I'll give

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you the floor here. Vino side total, fordam loyal of Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Do you have anything in this one?

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Speaker 4: So he's at Fordham under team total.

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Speaker 2: He likes the Fordem team total under.

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Speaker 1: And now I have to just double check my text

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because that's what he uh, that's that's what.

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Speaker 2: He texted me.

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Speaker 1: He said, Fordham team total under seventy three and a

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half is his play.

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Speaker 4: I got you, I got you? Okay. So all right,

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So a couple of things here.

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Speaker 3: If you're just reading into line movements, the full game

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total has gone up, the price on Fordham as a

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favorite has gone down.

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Speaker 4: That would speak.

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Speaker 3: Somewhat to Loyola scoring a few more points than the

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original openers suggested. So if they score a few more,

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that means Fordham has to score a couple less. To

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that point, if you're just line reading here, you would

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say BPS probably on the right side. The one thing

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I would say about Fordham in support of what Brian

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is giving us there as a total, is the fact

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that they are not an overly productive offensive team. I

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know Loyola's defense has been bad. You could combat me

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that way and say Robert that Lorela defense is so bad,

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But I don't think the pace is going to be

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anywhere near it's necessary here for a team like Fordham

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to get into the price range that's being asked of

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in this case. So if you have a slow, slower tempo,

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you have a team that's not overly productive offensively. Loyola

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in the half court maybe can force enough misses here,

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Fordham's not necessarily a team either, Adam, that's going to

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get to the line a bunch. And in an eight

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and a half point game. Again, guys, for those of

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you who want to just line read or look in

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between the lines, an eight and a half nine point

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number doesn't really suggest a lot of extension at the

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end of the game, right So ford if this game

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plays out, Fordham shouldn't be going to the line.

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Speaker 4: While Loyola tries to score and get back into the game.

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And foul and score and file and score. You shouldn't

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have a bunch of that in a game lined at

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eight and a half nine. Just general theory there.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean it's going to work, but when you're

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trying to handicap these things, you look at it that way.

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So I guess there's a lot of reasons to support

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it here for Brian. And I'll just end it by

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with a simplistic comment of saying, who are we to

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argue with BP on anything?

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Speaker 4: Right now? He's helping us dig ourselves out of our

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own hole. He's winning on a daily basis like the

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two of us are, So we're not going to argue.

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Speaker 3: He's a teammate, he's in on this parlay. So I

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think there's reason to support Fordham team total under though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he said that's right, Like he's having

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a really good month of February. I'm not trying to,

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Like I said yesterday, I didn't really I didn't really

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have like a huge opinion in.

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Speaker 2: The game he picked.

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Speaker 1: I just kind of, you know, it was actually he

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found yesterday, he found a team that I didn't really

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fully trust my rating on Texas Tech, And I'm glad

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I'm glad I didn't step in front of that because

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my numbers lean Texas Tech and Arizona State came out

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and won the game outright. So what I will end

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this with is, I mean, Fordham's not really a team

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that I think you'd be you'd really.

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Speaker 2: Want to lay nine and a half with.

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Speaker 1: I know Loyola Chicago has been and atrocious this year,

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but that to me is like a pretty big number.

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Even though my number comes out on sort of on

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it again, I think I'm at nine point three and

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it's nine point five. I just haven't really trust trusted

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anything Loyola Chicago specific this year because, and I guess

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my thought process is the one time I try to

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play them, they'll get crushed. If I try to fade them,

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they'll have like their one good game. So I'm just

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pretty much out on doing anything loyal in Chicago. But

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I you know, this is a Loyo Loyola Chicago team

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that plays a tempo outside the top two fifty. I

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just want to see what Fordham is in that same metric.

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Like Fordham's three thirty eight, Fordham plays very very slow,

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So you got to think, like both teams probably want

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to slow the game to a crawl. I almost think

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it benefits uh loyal in Chicago more to play Fordham

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style here, because like if if you're loyala Chicago, You've

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got to almost look at this as like, let's let's

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make sure there's a few possessions in this game as possible,

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because something they do is turn the ball over, Like

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you don't you want to you want to take that possession.

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If you're loyal in Chicago, you want a chance to

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win this game. You want to take that possession number

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and get it as low as humanly possible to have

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a chance to win this game. So I think I

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think full game under and then dp's team total under

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make a lot of sense here as well, starting the

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show off with two unders. Robino, what an exciting day

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so far.

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Speaker 3: And like I say, Fordham doesn't get to the free

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throw line. They're fourteenth and free throw rate in that

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conference in conference play. And Loyola, if you're Loyola, you

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have a better chance defending in the half court than

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you do in the open court. You have a better

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chance of defending a non productive offensive team in the

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half court. So it all makes sense. Like I say,

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there's plenty of reasons of support VP here. So let's

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go Brian Fordham team total.

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Speaker 1: Seventy three and a half will be the first leg

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of our parlay, all right, because I couldn't decide what

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the feature was gonna be today, what will almost just

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go with what would be one A and one be

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on this slate. And also, let's talk about a game.

478
00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:18,119
There's probably gonna be some points in for a change.

479
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,960
That's gonna be at Arkansas Alabama down in Tuscaloosa tonight.

480
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,400
There's probably going to be unlimited points in this game,

481
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,440
Rob Vino, But I don't know it's as easy as

482
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,119
betting and over because the odds makers threw up something

483
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,000
obnoxious here. I think you gotta get to I think

484
00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:35,000
it's gonna be I think you gotta get to ninety

485
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,240
for both of these teams to hit the to hit

486
00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:40,839
the total in this game. That being said, you won't

487
00:24:40,839 --> 00:24:43,200
find me on an under here. I'll tell you that much.

488
00:24:43,319 --> 00:24:46,039
It truly does look like a game that could hit

489
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:51,200
one eighty and beyond. So Alabama Arkansas down in Tuscalalosa,

490
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,000
do you have any interest in trying to take that over,

491
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,000
which is one of the highest ones I think I've

492
00:24:57,039 --> 00:24:59,359
seen non au Indy all season.

493
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, the odds makers have to do what they have

494
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,400
to do, right.

495
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,519
Speaker 3: You just can't have people rushing up to the window,

496
00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:07,559
you know, throw up a one seventy two or something,

497
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,319
people running up there and betting over and cashing their tickets.

498
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,640
And for those of you who have watched this show

499
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,720
since early November, you know I love my overs as

500
00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:20,440
much as anybody. But when I saw this number this morning, Adam,

501
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,039
I was like you, I start doing the math in

502
00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:24,839
my head and I'm like, ninety three to ninety two.

503
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 4: Really, there's so little wiggle.

504
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 3: Room to get to that amount of points, one hundred

505
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,519
and eighty five points. The interesting thing is it opened

506
00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:36,519
one eighty one and that didn't deter anybody one eighty

507
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:40,079
one straight up to eighty four, Like, hey, let's go,

508
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,279
the lane is open. Every fast break is gonna work.

509
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,279
It's there's not a lot of handicap here. We all

510
00:25:46,279 --> 00:25:48,119
know by now, who are Kansa in Alabama?

511
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,519
Speaker 4: Are? They're gonna go back and forth? You do need

512
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,400
shot making.

513
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: The one good thing about a game like this is

514
00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:58,960
you're going to get the opportunities necessary to get to

515
00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:01,640
one eighty five. The question is do you get the

516
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,480
field goal percentage, the three point percentage, the free throw

517
00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:07,480
percentage high enough to get yourself up and over do

518
00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:11,240
they make enough shots? You can always in a game

519
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,039
like this. I talked about game extension earlier. You can

520
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,119
get game extension here. Could be very close in this one.

521
00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:21,319
Bama's taking some money three and a half all the

522
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,359
way to five. Even see a straight five and a

523
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,599
half out there, So certainly Alabama is a is a

524
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,680
money favorite early on this morning. I don't know, you know,

525
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,000
it's an interesting game to me because we know Arkansas's

526
00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:40,880
better at Bud Walton, But I almost feel like Arkansas

527
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,680
personnel wise is as good as Alabama. Alabama reacted pretty

528
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,559
good the other day off of the Charles Bendioco news.

529
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:50,519
Didn't seem to hurt them at all that they didn't

530
00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:52,799
have many more. It just you know what it does, Adam,

531
00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:56,279
I think it just makes them faster again. We're back

532
00:26:56,319 --> 00:27:00,759
to the Alabama of November in December. Either it's the

533
00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:06,920
same team now and I won't play the over. I

534
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,559
got to tell you that I can't get there at

535
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,279
that price. I can't get to either team total here

536
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,240
if I had to take my choice of team totals.

537
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,359
I don't know, it's difficult. I might say Arkansas just

538
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,079
because I don't like Alabama defensively, but I don't like

539
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,440
Arkansas as much on the road. So it's a game

540
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:32,200
i'll pass. That's a lot of summary and analysis to say. Now,

541
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,599
it's good put it in a tough place.

542
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: It's good summary and analysis because you kind of kind

543
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,079
of set up I guess the point I would make

544
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,599
where if I was gonna play it, it'd have to

545
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:45,200
be Arkansas for a lot of the same. You know,

546
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,839
the number I feel like so slightly shaded toward Alabama.

547
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: My number was right sort of in the mixture.

548
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: I think I had Bama minus five, so it was like,

549
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,599
you know, it wasn't quite the number I would have

550
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,319
wanted to back Arkansas on the road in this game.

551
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,279
I still think you have to acknowledge the home road

552
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,920
splits for Arkansas.

553
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: It's an annual thing.

554
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: But you know what, Speaking of Brian Power, while while

555
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,759
while he's the topic of our show, BP and I

556
00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:19,400
went to Arkansas and Michigan State first week of the

557
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,799
season up in East Lansing, and we were walking out

558
00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:25,359
of that arena and I and I look we looked

559
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,839
at each other. I looked at him and I said, hey,

560
00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:30,640
Arkansas was the better of these two teams, Like the

561
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,720
better team lost tonight. Maybe not the better team tonight

562
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,680
because it actually neither team played particularly.

563
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: Well in that game.

564
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: A lot of Mishots Michigan State kind of squeaked it out,

565
00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:43,880
but it was like, you know, the reason Arkansas lost

566
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,359
that game and the reason they lost some of the

567
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,400
early games is because you know, they have a couple

568
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,240
of young guys a freshman and Darius a Cup that's

569
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:55,480
that's trying to sort of figure out how to play

570
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:57,960
at the college level. And we both kind of said,

571
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,480
this is a team down the road that we're gonna

572
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,880
want to be on, not against. And I'm actually kicking

573
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,720
myself a little bit that I have not just been

574
00:29:06,839 --> 00:29:09,240
like beating the drum with Arkansas.

575
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: Now.

576
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:15,039
Speaker 1: I did cash with Arkansas against Oklahoma for clients, and

577
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:17,400
I think you and I, I think we talked about

578
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:21,160
Arkansas LSU not that long ago, and it was like

579
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,640
a thirty point Arkansas win.

580
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: I don't remember if Arkansas I was.

581
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:30,519
Speaker 1: I was in Cameron Indoor Arena on Saturday, so I

582
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:34,279
can literally cannot remember if we talked Arkansas Auburn on Saturday.

583
00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:36,599
Speaker 2: But the point is this team has now won six

584
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:37,079
of seven.

585
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: The one loss in that stretch was actually kind of

586
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,440
a bad not a bad loss, but they lost in

587
00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:46,000
Fayetteville to Kentucky, one that I think they'd like to

588
00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:47,599
have back, one that they were a six and a

589
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,559
half seven point favorite and probably feel like they should win.

590
00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:54,039
You go back to a Cuff, and I think this

591
00:29:54,119 --> 00:29:57,440
dude might be a household name come NCAA tournament. We

592
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,079
even talked about him relative to the other freshmen on

593
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,759
another year where they're where where the people like Darren Peterson,

594
00:30:05,119 --> 00:30:08,680
AJ DEBANSA, some of these other guys didn't exist. A

595
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:11,799
Cuff would be everyone's darling, right, Like, look at what

596
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:15,079
this guy has done the last six games thirty one,

597
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,799
twenty one, twenty two, twenty four, twenty eight, thirty one

598
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,279
plays all forty minutes. Most games are very very close

599
00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:22,640
to it.

600
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:24,279
Speaker 2: So like for me, like I.

601
00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: Actually think, if I'm looking at these two teams right now,

602
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,160
I prefer Arkansas's trajectory over Alabama's, even though you know

603
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,920
they they worked around Betioco whatever last time at you know,

604
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,920
it was against I feel like they Bama got me

605
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:40,039
last week. It was I had a big play on

606
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,799
all Miss and they all miss just sucks.

607
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: So whatever that that team's horrible. So yeah, I.

608
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:49,359
Speaker 1: Think I like the Razorbacks and this is one that

609
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,759
I will monitor throughout the day to day if if

610
00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:56,799
suddenly there is a more playable number on Arkansas, this

611
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,400
might be. This kind of might be my my Michigan

612
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:02,839
from yesterday where you know, I never really got the

613
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,920
number I wanted, so I didn't play it.

614
00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:07,559
Speaker 2: I guess it's starting to pop though.

615
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: A couple places just moved to five and a half

616
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:15,960
here that that is very, very tempting. The Alabama money

617
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,640
I thought would come as coming as we're doing the show,

618
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,880
which which seems to happen to us in this ten

619
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,000
to eleven AM hour five and a half minus one

620
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:29,440
tenant at DK at MGM. That's a good Arkansas bet

621
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,279
in my opinion, that is a good point to buy

622
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:35,160
in with the Razorbacks. I think this game is much

623
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,119
closer than that. And I'm with you, Rob, if I

624
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,720
had to pick a team total side, it would be Arkansas,

625
00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:41,440
not Alabama. I think you're getting a little bit more

626
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:42,039
value there.

627
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:45,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to bring up something really quick, Adam,

628
00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:47,519
that you brought up yesterday where Miami of Florida was

629
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:50,000
concerned that Lady to Virginia take yesterday. And that's the

630
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:54,880
inequality of the schedules in these huge conference leagues. Right

631
00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:59,440
for Arkansas, the one concern I would have with this

632
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:02,240
side is they haven't played anybody good in league on

633
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:06,200
the road. They've played good teams in this league. Haven't

634
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,319
got caught Florida yet, but they've had Vandy, they've had Tennessee,

635
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,880
they've had Kentucky. But they got them all at home,

636
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:15,759
and they beat them all on the road. Their list

637
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:18,119
of road opponents reads like a who's who of the

638
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,079
seller in the SEC.

639
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,119
Speaker 4: So I guess if you were.

640
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: Going to counter what we're saying, the praise we're giving Arkansas,

641
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,759
you would counter by saying, yeah, but guys, guess what.

642
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,160
Arkansas hasn't gone on the road and done it yet

643
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,279
against anybody. So maybe Alabama and Coleman is the right side.

644
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:38,160
But Alabama and Coleman just I don't know. It doesn't

645
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,480
feel the same to me this year as it's felt

646
00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:44,319
in years past. Maybe that's just me. We'll see how

647
00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:46,119
it goes through the day, like you say, it deserves

648
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,599
monitoring all the way through this price could get to

649
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,319
a point. Maybe it is at the point where you

650
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,440
just have to push back and say Arkansas is just

651
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,480
as good as they are. And Darius Acuff, for those

652
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,680
who haven't watched, forget about the statistics.

653
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: Just watch this guy on the floor one time. Is amazing.

654
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: Like you say, Adam, he would be the darling without

655
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,960
these other guys debands to the Peterson, etcetera, et cetera.

656
00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:10,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he just gets he seems to get better

657
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:13,920
every game, Like he seems to just get better and better.

658
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:16,599
Like it's almost like he's played as good as he's played.

659
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:19,000
He maybe hasn't even hit their ceiling yet. The final

660
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:20,720
thing I'll say, because we're kind of doing a double

661
00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:24,000
feature here, the final thing I'll say regards to this game,

662
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:28,720
the way that these two attack and the way where

663
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:33,079
these two teams maybe lack defensively. The game is set

664
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,599
up for both of these teams to have offensive success.

665
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,079
I think that's why you're seeing this total where it is.

666
00:33:38,319 --> 00:33:41,039
But I also think it may be difficult for one

667
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:42,359
team to pull away from the other.

668
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:44,559
Speaker 2: And you know, five and a half points.

669
00:33:44,599 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: That's that's you're starting to get into the range where

670
00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:51,519
you have a good enough window to cash if you

671
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:54,759
don't win the game. And so again it's it's it's

672
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:56,759
that tricky window, Rob, where it might come down to

673
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:59,200
some free throws. But I still think I'd rather have

674
00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:02,640
Arkansas off with the points than Alabama trying to cover

675
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,319
that number just from a you know, pick one or

676
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:10,039
the other type scenario. So good discussion on that game.

677
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,559
That's gonna be a really good one. That'll be that'll

678
00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:14,519
be on a screen for sure for me.

679
00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:16,559
Speaker 2: Let's go to mad Max.

680
00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:20,679
Speaker 1: Mad Max, thank you for the donation, much appreciated. Good

681
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,679
segue here because we'll be allowed to stay in the SEC.

682
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,719
So kind of kind of just flows right into you know,

683
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,239
teams that I've had to deal with both Arkansas in

684
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,400
Alabama this year.

685
00:34:33,559 --> 00:34:36,679
Speaker 2: This is gonna be Auburn Mississippi State.

686
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: So I've uh, Rob, you know, I as I look

687
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,239
for the this is this is the point of the

688
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,159
show where Kelly and Vegas would be like rotation numbers, please, But.

689
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:46,199
Speaker 2: I've found it.

690
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's this one's down in Starkville tonight. You know,

691
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:55,239
I've made it known what I feel like about about

692
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,400
Mississippi State. I don't even know if you can really

693
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,000
call it an upset of all missed because they've just

694
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,320
been horrifically bad as well. That was just one bad

695
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,519
team had to win a game, all miss Mississippi State.

696
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,239
The egg Bowl, the basketball version of the Egg Bowl,

697
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,320
maybe the worst one in recent memory because these two

698
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,039
teams are those two teams are so far down of

699
00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:20,760
what they were supposed to be, but more so Mississippi State.

700
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,360
There's just a bad basketball team. But they are at

701
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,920
home here short number Auburn's starting to take money. I mean,

702
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,039
I'm inclined to agree with that, but talk to mad Max.

703
00:35:33,039 --> 00:35:35,159
Mississippi State, Auburn, what do you have for this one?

704
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,039
Speaker 3: I can't agree more and I'm just looking here. Okay,

705
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:41,239
So where Auburn sits, it's about the time of year.

706
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,639
It really has little to do with what we do

707
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:53,599
as everyday betters, Adam and Advisory Services are concerned. But

708
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,400
it is the time of year where you have to

709
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,760
start looking at these net rankings because these teams are

710
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,760
really concerned about getting into the NCAA tourner. What's on

711
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,559
their resume, et cetera, et cetera. Auburn, despite the four

712
00:36:05,639 --> 00:36:08,159
game losing streak, is still has a net ranking of

713
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:10,519
thirty two, which is good enough to get you in

714
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,880
as a large. I couldn't agree more with Max on

715
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,840
this one. Again, Mississippi State. I'll continue to use this phrase.

716
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,920
I mean, I don't trade market, but one trick pony,

717
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:23,800
so to speak. It didn't work out last night because

718
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,239
the Ponies were really good offensively, but Josh Hubbard is

719
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,400
the entire offense for Mississippi State and they probably put

720
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,440
everything they had into that game against Ole Miss.

721
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,599
Speaker 4: It was one that was winnable.

722
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: It was one that they could target, and this is

723
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,760
one that Auburn can target, and Auburn just has so

724
00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:45,559
many more options offensively. Again, Max brought up a great

725
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:48,320
point of the recent schedule. It's a four game losing streak,

726
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,400
but it's a four game losing streak against the upper

727
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,679
echelon the elite of the conference Tennessee, Bama, Vandy, and Arkansas.

728
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,960
You can't fault them for that. They were in every

729
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,840
single one of those games for the most part. I

730
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,360
mean the one at Bud Walton Saturday kind of got

731
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,679
away from them.

732
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 4: But we just discussed how good.

733
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:08,199
Speaker 3: Arkansas is at this point in time getting better when

734
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,599
winners of six or last seven, So to me, this

735
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,400
price is low. You're probably getting a by low situation

736
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,599
because they're on the four game losing streak. I don't

737
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:26,679
think there's a I don't think there's any reasonable level

738
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,480
of talent that's comparable between these two teams. I probably

739
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,000
should have said that a better way and say that

740
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:35,760
there's a separation of talent, a gap of talent here

741
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:38,960
personnel wise, that's more significant than four and a half

742
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:42,400
points in my estimation. Like you just said, the numbers

743
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,519
on the rise, I'm trying to stare at the number

744
00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:46,559
and speak because I'm going through this.

745
00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 4: It looks like it's up to five here. It could

746
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:48,840
get higher.

747
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,119
Speaker 3: You can still get four and a half, so I

748
00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:54,039
would not be opposed to laying four and a half

749
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:58,920
with Auburn. And while I'm on it, really quick, the

750
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,320
team total for the Auburn Tigers tonight is seventy eight

751
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,760
and a half. In Mississippi State gives up eighty like

752
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,000
it's their religion to do so. I mean, you can

753
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:12,119
get to eighty against this team fairly easily, So I

754
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:16,199
would think Auburn minus the points. If you want to

755
00:38:16,199 --> 00:38:17,599
look at it a different way, I would think this

756
00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:19,320
team total over seventy eight and a half is good.

757
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,079
They're probably gonna get to eighty. I think that was

758
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:24,760
a good comment there, Max and Auburn is worth a look.

759
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it looks like Keishawn Hall will be back.

760
00:38:31,039 --> 00:38:34,800
He was benched in Auburn's most recent game. Believe that

761
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,880
was a discipline thing you had nothing to do with injury.

762
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,400
He is their leading score. So it looks like all

763
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:47,440
things are go for Keishawn Hall. That matters big time

764
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:51,039
for Auburn, right, Like you don't really even I know,

765
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:54,360
I've sort of, like you know, talked down about Mississippi

766
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,719
State all year, and they deserve that. This is not

767
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,480
a good basketball team, like Auburn has their own issues.

768
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 2: They're two and five on the road this year.

769
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,159
Speaker 1: They're not exactly a team that I'm dying to lay

770
00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:08,719
points with on the road without their best scorer.

771
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 2: So to know that their best scorer is back is important.

772
00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: The other thing about Mississippi State, outside of like Hubbard,

773
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,320
this team's just bad. It's a bad basketball team. They've

774
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,079
been bad all year, go back to November December. They

775
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:24,239
were they were in dogfights with teams like New Orleans, right,

776
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:30,360
I think they lost to Kansas State. There's another bad

777
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,119
loss that they had earlier in the city.

778
00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: There's just a lot of bad losses.

779
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,639
Speaker 1: And now, yeah, they pick up a win over the weekend.

780
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,559
But this is that's a scenario where again I'll go

781
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:41,559
back to the beginning of the handicap, one of those

782
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:44,079
two teams had to win, Like, I just don't think

783
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:47,320
that that's going to be like like something that Mississippi

784
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,079
State builds off of, Like it's a nice win. It's

785
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:53,639
nice to get a win. Somehow they've managed four of

786
00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:56,280
them in conference play. That's a mystery to me. I

787
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,519
think they've already maxed out on their conference wins for season.

788
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:05,960
And then reading Max's original message, yes, I very much

789
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,000
agree with what he's saying, letdown spot for Mississippi State.

790
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:11,599
And then just combine the letdown spot with the fact

791
00:40:11,639 --> 00:40:13,639
Mississippi State is not any good and.

792
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: You should be.

793
00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: You should get to some finding some way to play

794
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:18,840
Auburn pretty easily.

795
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,119
Speaker 4: Here.

796
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: This numbers moved a little bit, but I do not

797
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:24,920
fall anyone that tries to find a way in on

798
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:28,280
Auburn in this game. That absolutely seems like the right move.

799
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,199
Speaker 3: You want to talk about gauntlets, Adam. The last six

800
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,440
games for Auburn, they actually went to Florida and won.

801
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,880
That was a head scratcher right the day they won

802
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:46,320
at Orlando at THEO. Then they played Texas, so Florida, Texas, Tennessee, Alabama, Vanderbilt,

803
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,599
and Arkansas. Their schedule eases up significantly.

804
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,599
Speaker 4: Down the stretch here.

805
00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:52,519
Speaker 3: The only team they'll play in the upper restaurant of

806
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:55,000
the league on the way and the next five is

807
00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:55,960
going to be Kentucky.

808
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 4: So they could make some hay and get back into

809
00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,800
things here a little bit.

810
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: But I think we see, like you were telling me yesterday,

811
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,559
with the with the Miami schedule in the ACC, some

812
00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:09,559
of these teams just get put through the rigor and

813
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:11,440
then have to find their way out of it. And

814
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,239
for Auburn, I guess Stephen Perlin company are like, thank god,

815
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,599
we get somebody like Mississippi State tonight, let's go get

816
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:16,880
a win.

817
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that's a Again, I Auburn's probably

818
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,000
gonna win that game, and it's it's it's in the

819
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:30,320
territory now where maybe you're just finding another favorite to

820
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,159
pair it with if you can in game, maybe do

821
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,239
the first half second half deal where it's like you

822
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,159
play a little first half. If they don't get there,

823
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,199
come over the top bigger in the second half. There

824
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:41,920
are creative ways to get on on Auburn, and I'd

825
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,400
be surprised that they don't win that one.

826
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: All right, here's Garth is here today. I appreciate you.

827
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,039
Speaker 1: I the uh our our daily game of the day

828
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:53,920
from from from Garth. We appreciate the donation. And Garth's

829
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,440
going to the Patriot League, where we've actually been really

830
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,679
good on this show. We talk Patriot League on Monday,

831
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,119
Rob in your absence, Brian Power and I kind of

832
00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:06,039
made a case for Boston University. They ended up blowing

833
00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:09,480
out Colgate. I've given out multiple client plays in the

834
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,199
Patriot League that were winners on this show. On Saturday.

835
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,440
Oh I didn't. On Saturday. I had a client play

836
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,519
loser in the Patriot League on Colgate in a game

837
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,599
that they lost in overtime, and they probably win if

838
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:24,119
they can hit their file shots in the final couple

839
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,119
minutes of the game.

840
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: Here.

841
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: This is an interesting one because these two teams are

842
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:34,559
similar in their respect that neither are even remotely close

843
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:36,559
to what they were last year in my opinion. So

844
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,440
what we have is American and Bucknell. Now it does

845
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,800
not surprise me one bit that both are sort of

846
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,880
middling teams this year, because last year these were arguably

847
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,559
the two best teams in this league. Right, Like Colgate

848
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:52,519
wasn't quite as good as last year as they were

849
00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:56,239
this year. Navy was on the rise, but they weren't

850
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,639
quite there yet. So really, last year the two top

851
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:02,360
teams in this league was buck Noll and Noel Williamson,

852
00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:05,280
an American with two time Patriot League Player of the

853
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,159
Year Matt Rodgers and a bunch of seniors. Noel Williamson

854
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,000
is somewhere on that Alabama bench. Now that's kind of

855
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,760
surprising to me that he left buck Nell where he was, Like,

856
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:16,840
clearly you must be getting mad.

857
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 2: Maybybe he's making a few bucks, but you.

858
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,159
Speaker 1: Know, he's obviously a generational talent when it comes to

859
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:28,840
Patriot League basketball. Insane rim defender, just an all around

860
00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:33,159
like made that Bucknell team last year so so much

861
00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:35,800
better than they would have been without him. And then

862
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,079
of course American is just sort of in a rebuild

863
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:40,559
rob where they lose like three seniors that were with

864
00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:43,599
the program for four years. It was it was you know,

865
00:43:43,639 --> 00:43:46,840
they made the NCAA Tournament last year, sort of like

866
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,440
the culmination of this great run for Rogers and some

867
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,320
of those seniors. So they're kind of back into rebuild mode.

868
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:56,519
So here you have American hitting the road going to Bucknell.

869
00:43:57,559 --> 00:44:01,519
Bucknell's lost a couple in a row, but I still

870
00:44:01,519 --> 00:44:04,559
think Bucknell's the slightly better of these two teams because

871
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,079
I think the rating on Bucknell at the beginning of

872
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:11,239
the year was way flawed because of course the market

873
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,679
had not reacted yet to them just not being the

874
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,760
team that won this league last year. Remember, Bucknell won

875
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,920
the regular season, got upset in the UH I believe

876
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:24,599
Navy upset them in the conference tournament last year. They

877
00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:27,239
were a Bucknell ran like rough shot through this league

878
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,440
last season. So now this is like almost like they're

879
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,079
sitting down there at five and nine. I don't really

880
00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:37,920
think they're worse than American. And so you talk about

881
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,599
a game where you're getting I believe this is a

882
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:43,039
maybe a three point spread.

883
00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:44,599
Speaker 2: I don't know if this one's moved yet.

884
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:45,079
Speaker 4: Rob.

885
00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: You have the screen there on American Bucknell real quick

886
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:48,360
I do.

887
00:44:48,639 --> 00:44:52,079
Speaker 3: I have American minus two and a half solid all

888
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:53,000
the way across the board.

889
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, see. You know, here's the thing, like I think,

890
00:44:57,559 --> 00:45:01,199
I think American probably takes some money throughout the day.

891
00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:03,960
I wouldn't be surprised if this got to three or

892
00:45:04,039 --> 00:45:07,159
three and a half. Reason being, I think American is

893
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,239
perceived to be the better of these two teams. But

894
00:45:11,199 --> 00:45:14,960
when I where my ratings are, I just don't think

895
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,559
either team is great. Like honestly, both of these teams,

896
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:19,840
for me and Patriot League player Robino, have been fades

897
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,360
this year. Try to fade, try to fade both of them.

898
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,679
But I just think because the market is more out

899
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,920
on Bucknell after the three straight losses, that I'd be

900
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,239
more inclined to play Bucknell here. They beat American down

901
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:39,159
in DC earlier this year sixty to fifty nine. Listen

902
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,760
bender Arena Washington, DC arguably the biggest home court edge

903
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,440
in this in this league. So now you get American

904
00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:49,960
coming to your place, you know, just to just to

905
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,320
go back and then I'll let you chime in here. Sorry,

906
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,559
I keep just like I keep thinking I'm gonna hand

907
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:55,920
it over to you, and then I see something else.

908
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,119
I want to say. So people are probably like, come on,

909
00:45:58,519 --> 00:46:01,639
let's let's pick it up. So the board is moving

910
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:04,599
as we're talking. I'm convinced they watched the show. Rob

911
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:07,239
We're at three and a half. A lot of places

912
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,880
now three three and a half's popping up on this game,

913
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,280
which is good because I would fade that. I go

914
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,599
buck Noll plus three and a half. Buck Nell's three

915
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:18,920
game losing streak Colgate Navy, and then at Boston you

916
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,840
Colgate Navy by far the two best teams in this league.

917
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,559
We talked about Boston you kind of being on the

918
00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:27,880
uptick the last few times Boston You has come up

919
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,199
on this show. So Garth, if you like American minus

920
00:46:31,199 --> 00:46:33,519
two and a half, I hope you got two and

921
00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:36,480
a half because me personally, I think i'd play back

922
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:39,159
at that at the current if it gets to three

923
00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:42,079
and a half, i'd play back. But I will say

924
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:45,039
not a super strong opinion for me, just the way

925
00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:46,000
I would go in this game.

926
00:46:46,039 --> 00:46:48,159
Speaker 2: For Garth, what do you have in this one? American

927
00:46:48,199 --> 00:46:48,639
buck Now?

928
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 3: I think the reason and whenever I see movement in

929
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,880
the number, I have to look right away.

930
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,519
Speaker 4: And last game four buck Now, Pat Curtin didn't play.

931
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably a reason why you get movement towards American here.

932
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,360
First meeting sixty to fifty nine, fifty nine possession game,

933
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,480
Bucknell actually played it American style, and one American style.

934
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,400
They'd probably prefer to play it a little bit quicker

935
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,360
than that. Maybe they can do so this time around

936
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,920
at home, but without Curtain, who had twelve in that game,

937
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,639
one of their leading.

938
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,079
Speaker 4: Guys as far as scoring is concerned.

939
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,599
Speaker 3: I would say that's probably the reason for the line

940
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:32,159
movement here, Probably the reason for the push towards American

941
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,519
because we know that the market does love their injury betting.

942
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:42,119
And I guess my question to you, without being completely

943
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:46,760
familiar with Curtain's importance to the team other than statistically

944
00:47:48,679 --> 00:47:51,760
not knowing as far as you know offensive sets and whatnot,

945
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,960
is it is it a big of a deal for

946
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,239
for Bucknell where you should be playing American here?

947
00:47:58,679 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: So the guy that's to get those minutes is likely

948
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,679
put put Choky is his last name. He's a transfer

949
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,239
from Fordham, didn't get a ton of minutes at Fordham

950
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,920
as a freshman. He's been he's been more of a

951
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,880
rotational piece for Bucknell this year. Probably eighteen to twenty

952
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,480
minutes a game. He didn't play terrible and extended minutes

953
00:48:18,519 --> 00:48:20,639
over the weekend against Boston US, so it was I

954
00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:25,880
believe a season high thirty two minutes, fifty percent of

955
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,159
his attempts from the field, twelve points. Like, he didn't

956
00:48:28,159 --> 00:48:32,599
play terrible, So the market's probably right. Curtain's probably worth

957
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:34,679
a point. I don't think he's worth more than a point.

958
00:48:35,159 --> 00:48:37,679
I would say he's probably worth one point, So you know,

959
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,079
I don't think it's like a crazy injury where you've

960
00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:44,280
got to like go nuts, try to bet it because he's.

961
00:48:44,119 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 3: Out, Because sometimes these pieces can be interchangeable. At him,

962
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,280
a guy's just waiting for his step uptown. Like we

963
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,280
talked about Saunders before. That's not an interchangeable piece. This

964
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,840
Pat Curtin could very well off of the performance Saturday

965
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,000
by his replacement be a situation where, you know, just

966
00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:03,960
a guy looking to get those minutes and perform.

967
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 4: So we'll see how that one goes.

968
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,559
Speaker 3: I did look at the total real quick care for

969
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:09,519
those who would be interested in the total here, I

970
00:49:09,519 --> 00:49:11,800
know Garth asked the question one forty one down to

971
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,000
one thirty nine and a half. Certainly, I think injury

972
00:49:14,159 --> 00:49:18,079
keys that moved downward sixty to fifty nine first time

973
00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:23,559
one nineteen again played to Americans preferred pace buck Nell

974
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:25,840
at home. This time, can they pick it up a

975
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,559
little bit again? It curtains twelve points the first time around.

976
00:49:29,639 --> 00:49:31,760
You have to take that into consideration. One thirty nine

977
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,280
and a half. I think the total heading downward is

978
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,400
probably correct. It's interesting to me that at the beginning

979
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:43,679
of the year, the phenomena that was American U overs

980
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:45,360
nine to one out of.

981
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,679
Speaker 4: The gate first ten.

982
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,559
Speaker 3: I can remember playing a couple of American U overs,

983
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,719
not really even understanding why, just blindly playing American U

984
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,480
overs because they were going over all the time, much

985
00:49:57,519 --> 00:50:00,360
in the way that Denver was going over. And since

986
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,800
then eleven and four to the under right, back to

987
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:07,239
what American does best, methodical pace, slow it down, play

988
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,039
some defense. There is a defensive disparity between these two

989
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:13,679
as far as analytics are concerned. So I would probably

990
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,400
think that under one thirty nine and a half is

991
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:16,199
a proper player.

992
00:50:18,599 --> 00:50:22,159
Speaker 1: All right, So my question to you is do you

993
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,440
have we talked about your parlay leg yet or not?

994
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,920
Do you know what it is? Is it a game

995
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,039
we've talked about or not, because it'll determine what game

996
00:50:31,079 --> 00:50:31,480
I go to.

997
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 4: Right here, it's not a game that we've talked about yet.

998
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: No, okay, So would you like to talk about said

999
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,880
game and lock in your parlay leg.

1000
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 3: I'll go first, Okay. I'm gonna play Temple tonight at

1001
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:44,880
pick against you.

1002
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,159
Speaker 2: Okay, I agree.

1003
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 3: Andy Kennedy is another guy. He didn't get the national attention,

1004
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,199
but he kind of went ballistic the other day. We've

1005
00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:58,199
had fun this year at him with these coaches. It

1006
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,360
seems like a never ending thing in the postgame pressers.

1007
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,679
But you know, Andy Kennedy referred to college basketball and

1008
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:10,480
that was bizarro land twenty two layups missed ten. I

1009
00:51:10,639 --> 00:51:14,159
watched the game the other day, start to finish, a

1010
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:18,719
lot of dismay on my part because UAB couldn't put

1011
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,599
the ball in the hole. But UAB couldn't put the

1012
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:23,519
ball in the basket because they're missing three key guys here.

1013
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:28,239
It was bad enough coming into the game that Jacob

1014
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,280
Meyer wasn't going to play in this game, but now

1015
00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:35,039
Jacob Meyer didn't play, Amada Richardson didn't play, and then

1016
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:39,639
within the first minute of the game, Caron Lindsey Martin

1017
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,880
went down with a shoulder injury, and it was bad

1018
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,719
for Alabama Birmingham in that game. Don't get mad at

1019
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,280
me for not saying u AB. I'll continue to say

1020
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,880
Alabama Birmingham. But they couldn't shoot threes at the end

1021
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,079
of the game, Adam, they were trying to force overtime.

1022
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,280
They got five second chances at the last shot in

1023
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,400
every single three.

1024
00:52:01,559 --> 00:52:06,199
Speaker 4: One was worse than the other. Brick brick, airball, brick.

1025
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:09,119
Speaker 3: They just don't have anybody on this team that can

1026
00:52:09,159 --> 00:52:15,000
shoot the basketball right now. They're limited depth wise. They've

1027
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:18,719
got really three legit starters and then you know, it

1028
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,039
could be as short as it could probably be an

1029
00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:23,519
eight man rotation, but five, six, seven, and eight are

1030
00:52:23,559 --> 00:52:26,320
going to be guys who honestly wouldn't see a lot

1031
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,519
of minutes in a regular game. So there, without three

1032
00:52:29,559 --> 00:52:31,840
point shooting, Temple happens to be the second best three

1033
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,039
point defense inside this league and conference play this year.

1034
00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:38,519
Alabama Birmingham like likes to go fast, Temple wants to

1035
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:43,639
go slow. Their pace their home preferred Temple probably disrupts

1036
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,440
UAB a little bit. And I don't even know that

1037
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:48,440
UAB wants to go fast without the players that they

1038
00:52:48,519 --> 00:52:51,000
don't have. Now that game against Tulania there was fifty

1039
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,039
five to fifty three, And I get that Ron Hunter

1040
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:55,679
throws kind of a junk defense at people matchup zone,

1041
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,159
et cetera. But Temple's been pretty good on the defensive

1042
00:52:59,199 --> 00:53:01,960
side in some area is as well. And Temple's just

1043
00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:06,440
got the better scores. Four double digit scorers here on

1044
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,199
the Temple side at home, I saw a pick them.

1045
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 4: I can understand.

1046
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 3: That the injury situation is probably built into this line already,

1047
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:21,320
but still, I don't know that EUAB has the manpower

1048
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,360
to go on the road and beat Temple, who almost

1049
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,719
had North Texas. You know that North Texas by twelve

1050
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,440
the other day with about nine or ten left and

1051
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,760
wound up losing to North Texas because North Texas was

1052
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,039
able to d up as only they can. Alabama Birmingham

1053
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:37,320
can't d up the way that North Texas can. So

1054
00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:39,280
for me, it's going to be a home play.

1055
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:40,599
Speaker 1: Guys.

1056
00:53:40,599 --> 00:53:42,639
Speaker 3: I know it's been a lot of team totals, mostly

1057
00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:45,559
team totals ninety five team totals all season long with

1058
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:48,679
the Parlay pick. But today, I just after watching UAB

1059
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,280
on Sunday afternoon, and now knowing they're going on the

1060
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,320
road with this same bunch of these key injuries, I

1061
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,480
have to play Temple here at pick them at hometon.

1062
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,199
Speaker 4: I said, it'll be my leg of the parlay Temple

1063
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,760
at Pick. Yeah.

1064
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: I can't argue with that. UAB, to me, has has

1065
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,119
sort of trended in the wrong direction. Like they got

1066
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,800
so they managed to get that win at Tulsa with

1067
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:14,360
like they were missing two guys. I don't even think

1068
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,679
Andy Kennedy made the trip. It was like a shocking result,

1069
00:54:18,039 --> 00:54:19,920
Like the fact that they were to go in to

1070
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:24,719
Tulsa and win is a double digit favorite with out

1071
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,039
a coach and two of their I think two of

1072
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:31,400
their starters was like kind of like the like a

1073
00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:34,760
crazy result. In my opinion that that goes a little

1074
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,559
unnoticed because I think you look back, oh yeah.

1075
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,039
Speaker 2: They beat Tulsa.

1076
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:40,599
Speaker 1: These two teams are like, no, they that thing steamed

1077
00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:42,719
to the point where Tulsa was like an eleven point

1078
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,880
favorite in that game, and so UAB did the Uh.

1079
00:54:46,159 --> 00:54:49,280
It was almost like the star player theory rob right,

1080
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,840
Like they just banded together and and got that win,

1081
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,800
got that result on the road what do they do?

1082
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,159
They turn around last time out, lose at home to

1083
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,239
too late. If I had to pick what's more likely

1084
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,960
to happen in this game based off those two games,

1085
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,360
it's probably the latter because you know, like the further

1086
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,599
you get away from that, like first game that the

1087
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:14,400
you know you're down a coach, it was just like

1088
00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:17,239
it was just a real band together moment, and Tulsa

1089
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,000
played horror. Tulsa did not play a good basketball game

1090
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,920
in that game. Now you're talking about having to go

1091
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:27,360
to Philly midweek, not the easiest trip for UAB. You know, Temple,

1092
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,840
I've I've talked about on social media that they don't

1093
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:33,199
they haven't had a great like fan base, and they

1094
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,119
they've sort of lost their fan base over the years. Remember,

1095
00:55:36,199 --> 00:55:38,800
of course, I know, I mean Rob, I mean I know,

1096
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,840
being from somewhat from the area, you obviously remember remember

1097
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,639
Temple basketball as a lead eight after a lead eight

1098
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,599
John Cheney, great crowd.

1099
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,199
Speaker 2: So it's not that these days.

1100
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,599
Speaker 1: But you know, they've they've sort of quietly been respectable,

1101
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,800
like maybe even more than I like gave them credit for.

1102
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,079
This year, this team's essentially in a four way time

1103
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:01,480
for second in this league right now, and I'll throw

1104
00:56:01,519 --> 00:56:05,280
one more thing out there. Gavin Griffiths was hurt and

1105
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,800
since he's been back, he's he's kind of struggled to

1106
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,760
get back in the flow of the game. You know,

1107
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,880
I know he went he went one for ten from

1108
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,519
the field against North Texas, but encouraging that he played

1109
00:56:16,519 --> 00:56:19,960
thirty six minutes and grabbed nine rebounds. That I just

1110
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,519
got to think he's got a good game. Like you

1111
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:24,639
look at like what he's done since he's been back,

1112
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,079
very underwhelming. I mean, this is a guy that should

1113
00:56:28,119 --> 00:56:30,639
be giving you double figures on a team like this,

1114
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:35,440
in a league like this, He's gonna get rebounds, he's

1115
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,400
gonna typically impact the game for the better. So I

1116
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,079
will I will go this is what I'll say. I

1117
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:43,679
agree with you on Temple. I think Gavin Griffiths has

1118
00:56:43,679 --> 00:56:46,280
a good game, and I think you're gonna be on

1119
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,559
the right side here, Rob, So I I'll co sign

1120
00:56:48,639 --> 00:56:52,519
the owls with you at the Lea Chorus Center tonight.

1121
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: Probably right what an hour from where you live?

1122
00:56:54,639 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 3: Not quite yeah less, probably forty minutes thirty five to

1123
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,559
forty minutes for the Course Center and real quick here

1124
00:57:01,559 --> 00:57:04,199
with Lindsey Martin now added to that injury list with

1125
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,199
his shoulder injury, and Andy Kennedy said, he's our inside guy.

1126
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,840
He's the guy who makes layups for us. So it's

1127
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,559
a walking mass unit for UAB right now. We'll see

1128
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:16,320
how it plays out in Philly tonight.

1129
00:57:17,079 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Joe note that is a rare Rob Vino side,

1130
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,840
a rare Rob Bino side on Temple pick right here.

1131
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,519
So you know what, Rob, I'm gonna I'm gonna go

1132
00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:29,679
with a rare Adam trigger team total.

1133
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 2: That is what I'm going to do.

1134
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: Just because you came in and gave out a side today,

1135
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,440
which you never do, I'm gonna give out a team

1136
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,599
total which I never do. I'm gonna go back to

1137
00:57:38,639 --> 00:57:41,599
our feature game. I think BYU is staying under their

1138
00:57:41,639 --> 00:57:44,400
team total. I loved our discussion on that game. The

1139
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,639
more I think about it, the more I like. You know,

1140
00:57:46,679 --> 00:57:49,199
if you if you missed the breakdown, obviously the show

1141
00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:52,280
is live, it's on demand wager Talk YouTube channel. That

1142
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,760
was our feature game today, Arizona BYU. I love the

1143
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,719
discussion on that team total under and so Rob, what

1144
00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:00,920
is that team total under? Right now?

1145
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: BYU?

1146
00:58:01,519 --> 00:58:03,599
Speaker 1: Arizona? Well, BYU team total.

1147
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 4: We had seventy six and a half earlier, right now

1148
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,480
we have seventy five and a half.

1149
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: All right, so I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say seventy six,

1150
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,239
and I'm gonna make it with some juice attached. Okay,

1151
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:22,519
So basically on most of these sites you should be

1152
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:24,880
able to, like pretty much any legals, they're gonna let

1153
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,079
you all the juice. So I will go ahead and say,

1154
00:58:28,119 --> 00:58:32,840
BYU team total under seventy six, I'll attach minus one

1155
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,760
twenty five juice, which actually means you might be able

1156
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,840
to move that to under seventy six and a half

1157
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,000
for that price. But I know it's weird. It's going

1158
00:58:41,079 --> 00:58:44,719
to vary site to site. So what we will do,

1159
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,639
and again I'll make sure that the vegue is calculated properly.

1160
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,519
If we win, if we if we lose, it's not

1161
00:58:51,559 --> 00:58:54,519
gonna matter, obviously, It'll just be one. We have my

1162
00:58:54,679 --> 00:58:59,280
team total BYU team total under seventy six. We have

1163
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,679
Brian Power or who's going Fordham team total under seventy

1164
00:59:03,719 --> 00:59:07,280
three and a half, And in an uncharacteristic move, Rob

1165
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,679
Bino is gonna be the only side in the parlay

1166
00:59:09,719 --> 00:59:13,480
today with Temple pick and so temple money line if

1167
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,039
it happens to move throughout the day. So the only

1168
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:19,400
play I've locked in personally is a five percent play.

1169
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,039
I'm gonna run it back. I probably will add if

1170
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:24,639
I can find something else. But like yesterday for me, Rob,

1171
00:59:25,239 --> 00:59:27,159
I kind of just loved one game and it's like

1172
00:59:27,199 --> 00:59:29,719
I almost I never ended up adding yesterday and I

1173
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,840
got it done with my one pick. So as of

1174
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,239
right now, I've got one play locked in five percent play.

1175
00:59:34,239 --> 00:59:36,119
It's up on the website. You can get it on

1176
00:59:36,159 --> 00:59:38,440
its own. But why would you not just grab the

1177
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,360
double the Firepower CBB package get all of my plays,

1178
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,000
all of Rob's plays for a cost that you know

1179
00:59:45,079 --> 00:59:47,400
one to five percenter almost pays for it. I mean

1180
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,400
pretty much where the price point is.

1181
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 2: So check that out. It's on both of our pages.

1182
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: One more time as we sign off here in the

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final ten seconds, Brian Power Fordham team total under seventy

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three and a half. You can see his breakdown on

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the Morning Wager Temple pick a rare side play trig

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team total BYU team total under seventy six a rare

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team total for me. We'll see you back here in

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the morning for the mid majors Thursday, ten am Eastern.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you guys tomorrow