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with Utah's most trusted injury attorneys. We got Garrett in

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Preston Handy on the line. Gentlemen, how you guys doing today?

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Speaker 6: Ben doing well? How you doing? Happy Friday?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Ben?

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Speaker 5: Happy Friday to you, gentlemen. Do things like pick up

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Speaker 7: I think there's a Friday afternoon vibe for sure. I

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think people start slowing down. No one wants to be

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getting on calls. No one certainly doesn't want.

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Speaker 6: To go to court.

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Speaker 7: But no, yeah, there's a Friday afternoon vibe.

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Speaker 5: You guys are injury attorneys. Like, so, I'm in the

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med device industry. I've been on call for years. Right,

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it always seems like like accidents, like major injuries, and

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the injury rates that I feel like they skyrocket on

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like Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Is that is that an

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accurate depiction? And this is just my theory.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't have that statistic. What about you, Garrett,

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Speaker 8: I think they do a little bit. I find that

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Monday morning and get into the office, there's you know,

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and there can be a bunch of voicemails or messages

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from people wanted to talk to us about what happened

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Speaker 5: For sure, I have to look up some of that data,

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Speaker 9: I was just kind of thinking about that.

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Speaker 5: Let's get into this sports Court segment brought to you

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by Handy Law Utah. Handy Law Utah dot com always

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like talking sports court with you guys. Let's start off

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with the NFL and sports books being sued for micro

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betting and gambling addictions.

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Speaker 9: So look, this is going to continue to pop up.

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Speaker 5: I think we need to, uh, there's got to be accountability,

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I think on these fronts because there's so much much

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bunt money being made and so many lives being ruined.

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Speaker 9: Guys, give us the latest on this.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So I mean today we're going to talk about

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a couple of stories. Draft Kings is in the crosshairs

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Speaker 6: You know, I think we're seeing the future.

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Speaker 7: A few weeks ago, we talked about a story that

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was outside this but kind of related to it, where

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Meta Facebook had been sued by a woman who claimed

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lot of mental illness and emotional challenges and.

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Speaker 7: And that trial just came out a day or two ago,

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and she actually won her trial against Meta got a

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other groups claiming that their app encourages micro betting and

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his holded in addictive gambling towards them. They're issues of negligence.

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trade practices. They have basically three assertions. You know, it

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you know, online sports gambling platforms have allegedly turned non

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addictive products into what is described as relentless, always on

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addiction amplifying machine through personalizing timing faster sports. They claim

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that the defective design of sports betting app is how

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they facilitate and promote live in game wagers that's important

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placed on virtually limitless array of events that occurred during

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the course of sport events in time, you know. And

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they're accused of enabling micro betting and encouraging gamblers to

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Speaker 6: So what is going on, Ben, This is crazy. This

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micro betting is you know, someone's sitting on their app,

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Speaker 7: They can actually bet in time on something's going to happen.

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Speaker 7: Propensity to this and they've got their credit card in

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there and they're just like, oh, I'm going, I'm going,

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you know, they've lost two million dollars that they're praying

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on their you know, their weaknesses.

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Speaker 6: You know, gamblers in.

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Speaker 7: General have kind of a you know, they want to

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do it. But if you've got an addictive personality and

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this hits on it, it's crazy.

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Speaker 6: And then another thing they do is they.

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Speaker 7: Have hosts, hosts people that reach out to him at

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times and say, hey, Ben, we haven't seen you betting.

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Speaker 6: With us for a while. We've got some great opportunities

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micro betting. Come on, come back. You know, that's the

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wrong thing.

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Speaker 7: You know, you're just you know, handing someone who's you know,

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addicted to something to go it. You know, So they

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are really promoting this. So I think this is a

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Speaker 7: I think lawyers have taken this case, and they're sophisticated,

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very high powered, good lawyers that are pursuing this. They

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think there's some valid claims there, you know, that can

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be uncovered and you know and kind of probably not

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only help these two guys, but probably set set some

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standards for going gambling going in the future.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of lives being ruined up, Tony.

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Speaker 5: Look, men, you know, humans have addictive personalities sometimes, and

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we should probably set up some standards for the weakest

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Speaker 6: Let's say you said, man, humans, it's men.

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Speaker 9: Man, it's men. You know, betting it's all men.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I you know, I try to be an

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to offend anybody, you know, as a guy that has

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all sisters. It's men, all right, it's men's men. Why

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why is it that men, you know are so I mean,

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because are women?

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Speaker 9: Are women gambling addicts?

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Speaker 5: Like in general, like you know, I mean I do

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see on the slots, I see more little ladies on

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the slots, you know, the game slots. I mean, they

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Speaker 9: It's not just us.

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Speaker 7: Well I don't know about that, but you know, we

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they've thought about their bet, and they're gonna put some

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money down on a bet, and they've decided here's how

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much I can bet, Here's what I'm betting on you know,

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the over under who's gonna win this game.

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Speaker 8: That's it.

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Speaker 6: But if you're sitting you with your phone and your

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Speaker 9: Just yeah, buzzing you, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Tempting, buzzing that you tempting you, and like, oh, well

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the wrong personality. Who's really doing this? And there are millions,

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millions doing this. It's it's dangerous.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the gamification of gambling, that's where it becomes pretty insane.

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and it's just like just bright lights itch. It's like

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my son was drawn to the the the the arcade

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looking gambling. You know, games that are daddy, Can I

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Speaker 9: Can I go? Like, no, you will not. I had to.

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Speaker 5: I had to put my foot down. Do not get

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near those things. Those are those are of the devil

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of the day of the devil. Anyway, NCAA seing DraftKings

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for infringement to blocker use of March Madness trademarks.

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, you know, as you know, I mean, March

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of these terms March Madness is one of them, Final four,

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Elite eight, Sweet sixteen. These are actually registered trademarks, right.

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we talk about final fours and different things like that

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is you know, you're inundated on these sports betting apps,

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place your bets on March Madness. And at the end

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that we're endorsing this or that we're somehow connected with you,

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and we want to make really clear that we're not.

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trademark infringement. They want a temporary restraining order. I mean

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games are going on right now, and so they're saying, hey,

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we this needs to be taken down from your site

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right now. You can't be using those terms or anything

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like that because you know, we're we're we're going to

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stay far away from this, you know, as the Collegiate

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Speaker 5: Man Frank Thomas, Frank Thomas. This is going to hit

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home for Ronald the three Man Weaver. I grew up

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watching Frank Thomas, Frank Thomas suing the White Sox hike

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and fantas over City Connect jersey sales.

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Speaker 9: Uh what's the lady shown on Big Frank.

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Speaker 6: Well, Frank Hall of Famer, beloved White Sox player.

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Speaker 7: He's learned that, you know, the White Sox have been

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Speaker 6: And you know, in today's.

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Speaker 7: World, guys are hearing what are they hearing about? They're

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hearing about name, image and likeness. That didn't uhould be

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a term that we ever used the name, image of

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likeness and protecting your brand. And he realizes that the

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White Sox are making a lot of money off the

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jerseys that they're selling with his name on it. So

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he has sued them, saying, you've made money. You owe

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me money. You know, you profited from my name, my name,

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identity without their permission.

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Speaker 6: We believe our filing speaks for ourselfs.

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Speaker 7: So that's what they're saying is you've been doing this,

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and they've probably been doing it for years and years

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since he retired. You know, every team does that. You know,

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there's you see people wearing retired players jerseys everywhere. So

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Speaker 8: Using his name image of likeness, so he sued him.

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the white Big Hurt.

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signing autographs.

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always angry. But that's a different Yeah, we had Big Hurt.

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single you know outing. I guess, all right, locals in

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the NFL not what you'd like to see. I've gotten

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many a text, many of calls about this. They're like,

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what's going on with Pooka Nikuah, I don't know, but

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local NFL star pookaaku accused of biting a woman and saying, uh,

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fornication under the consent of the king all the Jews.

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Speaker 9: What do they have going on?

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was acting strange and touchy feely with women women at

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the dinner. There's an allegation that he bit two of

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these women. There's a bite mark on a you can

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and so he's facing a lawsuit now. I think what's

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this and even to the point of saying that he's

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going to file a defamation lawsuit in response. It looks

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like the defense is to basically say, hey, he was

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it was horse play, he never said this anti Semitic comment,

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and that this is a shakedown and this is a

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way to just get money from him and this has

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no no basis. So he's, you know, in kind of

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going on the offense here a little bit, at least

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in the media. There's a hearing coming up in a

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couple of weeks on April fourteenth, and so we might

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learn more about it then. But I don't know, ben

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at Animum. I think Puka and Nkua needs just needs to.

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Speaker 4: Be a little careful field.

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Speaker 8: He's showing up in the news for all the wrong

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reasons too much lately.

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Speaker 5: It seemed like, yeah, you might as well just spend

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some money, like on security. You know, it's kind of

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like your self help coach baby, you know, babysitter, so

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that you don't do stupid stuff.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Look, I always say many US mammals and US men

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we need mentors. If we if we're not having good mentors,

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good people around us, really like we can fall prey

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to the follies of men.

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Speaker 9: And uh, I think that's what's happening.

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Speaker 5: You know, maybe a combination of repression, affluence, fame, and

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being in the city of Los Angeles isn't a good

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recipe for Puka Nukua happiness and success. Hopefully he's learning

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his lessons the hard way and uh, you know, yeah,

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hopefully he's Uh, he's gonna get back on the right

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track here, all right, doc QUI this was crazy, quadruple

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ampty cornhole professional has been jailed on murder charges. Crazy

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stuff happening here?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, then Kart and I have been talking

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about for some time. We're like, how can we somehow

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get a story of cornhole into sports quot you know,

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the competition of cornhole. When is it going to happen

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that we we can talk about that. So this is

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a story that kind of caught the attention to the nation.

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This is a guy named Dayton Weber. His background is

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he at birth had some serious infections, infections that threatened

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his life and as a result, he had amputation of

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all four limbs, you know, partial amputation of all the

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four limbs, and so he's been living like this throughout

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his life. I think he's twenty seven years old now.

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play some football, you know, to whatever extent, some track

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and field events, and now he's become a professional cornhole

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player pretty good, I guess.

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Speaker 6: You know. There there's some YouTube videos out there.

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Speaker 7: But while we're talking about in sports court, it's not

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because of the cornhole issue.

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Speaker 6: It's because he has He was.

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Speaker 7: In a car and he decided to shoot and kill someone. Allegedly,

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there were some witnesses there who didn't want to jump

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on with him and help him out and be accomplished

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to this and he apparently drove to Virginia. They tracked

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him down through surveillance. He was arrested in Virginia and

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charged with first and second degree murder and he is

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now they're trying to extradite him back to Maryland, you know,

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to face the charges.

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Speaker 6: So murder charges for our guy Dayton Whoeber.

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Speaker 7: You know, maybe they've got a good cornhole competition there

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going in the penitentiary.

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Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, gracious man. Just bad decisions, bad decisions

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ladies and gentlemen. Not good, not good at all, guys.

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That's our sport court.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 5: We love talking sports court with you guys. Right, we

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love talking sport court. But uh, you guys do you

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guys are injured attorneys. So you guys are some of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the best.

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Speaker 8: Way to do that, Ben is is really just give

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Speaker 5: Com eight A one two six four six six seven

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you joining us. Enjoy your weekend. Be safe and don't

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make any bad decisions. Don't gamble, you know, don't do

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anything crazy. All right, be safe, don't bite, don't buy me,

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don't bite anybody.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, don't buy anybody you know, don't.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, stands the cornhole stands the cornhole tournament.

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Speaker 5: Stay away from those cornhole throwers and people's jerseys, you know,

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I guess all of them. Yeah, And don't infringe on

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any sort of intellectual property.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's right.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Thanks guys, Thanks.

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Speaker 5: Thanks gentlemen, Handy law Utah dot com. That's Handy law

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Speaker 9: You know what is kind of crazy? March madness. March

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madness is crazy.

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Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, ESPN The Fan Million Dollar Bracket Challenge Giveaway

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is brought to you by interro Mount and Bobcat Utah

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or V, Super Show and Game Baby man self. Hopefully

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your bracket's still winning in your group. Well it's busted,

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but are you winning?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 5: That adage, you know, if you're getting chased by a bear,

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I only need to be faster than who I'm with, right,

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you just got to be better than who you're with

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in that, in that, in that bracket challenge, I.

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Speaker 9: Think it's over.

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Speaker 4: It's a wrap.

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Speaker 10: Kelvin Samson, as Brett always says, Brett bringing the hammery

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already taken off the final boss of the Big Twelve.

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They let me down, but my Illinois finding the line,

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I got them. So it's mixed emotions in the household.

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Mixed emotions in the house, motions in the household, indeed.

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But yeah, I'm not going to tell you. I looked

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before we started the segment because I knew you're gonna

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do that. Uh yeah, I'm not gonna win my challenge.

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So a lot of people picked Arizona. So I have

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Arizona and Houston meeting in the national Championship.

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Speaker 9: That's what I have. So did you pick a Z?

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Did you go with Arizona? I did? I think? Uh well,

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Speaker 5: Brackets and one of them, I did pick Houston, and

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when I picked you of A, I hope I didn't

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choose about Houston. I don't know if I chose Houston.

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Speaker 9: Did I choose Houston? I chose.

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Speaker 5: I chose Houston and U of A to meet in

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the finals because I'm a big twelve homer.

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Speaker 10: But I'm a big twelve homer as well. Look, I

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picked Arizona the winner one of them. I know I

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just said it, but I picked Arizona Houston to meet

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in the final of all of them. And I'm very disappointed.

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Now disappointed. I need Arizona to beat Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: That's QVU wolfverine S Baseball lives on your home of

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Speaker 9: Eight three, ESPN The Fan.

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Speaker 1: The Mackness of marches right around the corner, and the Cougars.

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Speaker 9: Are in the metal of it.

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Speaker 1: It's time to talk some college basketball on Cougar Sports

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It is time for little college basketball and cougar sports.

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NCAA Tournament Sweet Sixteen games came down the pipeline. You

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have a Arkansas Purdue Texas. There were some great games

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and we're gonna break it down. Also talk BAU basketball

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in the future of BU basketball under Ky and welcome

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He's a former Utah Jazz insider. Now he's covering the

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Sixers and the NBA four, the Athletic. We got the one,

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the only Tony Jones on the line. Tony, how you living?

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Speaker 2: I'm good man, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 9: Heck yeah, man, blessing having you on our show.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: How long has it been now since you moved on

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from the Utah Jazz portion of covering covering in the

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NBA for the Athletic and heading out to Philly to

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cover the Sixers.

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Speaker 2: I think the irony of it is I actually covered

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the Jazz a little bit more this year than I

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did last year, but I physically moved in September. So

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what is that month nine? And what are we a

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month three? So roughly six months now. So six months

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since I physically moved out of the state of Utah,

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last week. But yeah, it's it's been. It's been an

472
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,160
interesting it's been an interest in six months for sure.

473
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, what's so, what percentage would you say

474
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,960
of your bandwidth is allocated to covering jazz material?

475
00:22:59,079 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 9: Still?

476
00:23:01,599 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 2: Probably well, now that you know all of the the

477
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,559
the tanking stuff is it's kind of yesterday's news. Probably

478
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,799
not as much towards the end of the season. I'm

479
00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:19,160
probably all six ers now. But once the Jazz get

480
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,839
into the lottery and once they actually make a draft

481
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,319
pick uh and heading the free agency, I'll be there

482
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,599
to cover some I expect to be back uh and

483
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:36,880
covering the Salt Lake City Summer League this just July

484
00:23:37,799 --> 00:23:40,960
before I go to Vegas and cover Summer Week in Vegas.

485
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 10: Tony, you mean when the Jazz draft.

486
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,039
Speaker 5: Ten percent chance? Ten point five percent chance?

487
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,759
Speaker 2: You guys ready for my AJ to boxer Utah Jazz

488
00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:54,279
hot take.

489
00:23:54,279 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 9: Let's go go.

490
00:23:56,039 --> 00:23:56,799
Speaker 2: You ready for it?

491
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,279
Speaker 9: I've been ready, I've been ready. I was born ready

492
00:23:59,319 --> 00:23:59,559
for this.

493
00:24:00,319 --> 00:24:04,279
Speaker 2: Okay, If the Jazz draft AJ de Bonca Ma hot

494
00:24:04,279 --> 00:24:06,640
take is that they will win an NBA championship within

495
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,279
three years.

496
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 10: Ooh, I like that hot take?

497
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,799
Speaker 5: You feel do you feel like? I mean, look, you

498
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,839
know jazz history. I was looking at it as far

499
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,039
as their draft picks and things of that nature, where

500
00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:23,200
they've actually, you know, I mean, it's it's a rarity

501
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,519
for them to get into that two slot. I think

502
00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:28,759
most of the highest spot they've typically been at the three.

503
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,559
One year they they drafted I think Dominiqu Wilkins, they

504
00:24:31,599 --> 00:24:33,200
ended up trading him because he wasn't gonna play, he

505
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,000
didn't want to play, and you saw all those things,

506
00:24:35,079 --> 00:24:38,640
right Like, Historically the Jazz have not been all that

507
00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:44,039
lucky with their lottery selection position. How do you feeling

508
00:24:44,039 --> 00:24:47,720
about BA or excuse me, Utah Jazz opportunity to get

509
00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:52,720
BYU's product AJ Tabonsa in the lottery this year, AG

510
00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:55,359
is going number one. The last odds I saw was

511
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,920
Jazz at ten and a half percent. Do you think

512
00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:02,680
the puppeteers the NBA maybe give him a solid even

513
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,519
though all this tanking stuff has occurred, and they give

514
00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:07,519
them a solid and maybe they get it that number

515
00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:08,240
one overall pick.

516
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,039
Speaker 2: Now, to be clear, I do not feel good about

517
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:17,680
you toss chances of getting number one. But if they did,

518
00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:21,480
if like Lightning Struck, you know, the seas party, cats

519
00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:24,519
and dogs started living together, things like that, and they

520
00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:28,200
got the number one pick, then I can see the

521
00:25:28,279 --> 00:25:32,559
Jazz winning the NBA Championship and within three years of

522
00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:38,839
getting aged Debosa because that listen, Kyante George Lowry marking

523
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:44,920
the Jaron Jackson Jr. You know you already have you know,

524
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,839
three guys who are like All Star level kind of players.

525
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,599
They're all three of those guys. You know, two of

526
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,839
them have already seen an All Star Game in their career.

527
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,240
Kyante is going to eventually see an All Star Game

528
00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:00,160
at some point in his career. But you know the

529
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:05,519
Bonsor is is you know, he's another you know, I

530
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,359
lived through Prime Tracy McGrady. He's the closest thing I've

531
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,960
seen through Prime. Tracy McGrady might not have quite the

532
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,519
the the top end athleticism Emmigrady did, but the ability,

533
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,359
you know, the ability to control a game at six'

534
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:27,880
nine on both ends of the, floor from possession to.

535
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 4: POSSESSION i know we talk a.

536
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,519
Speaker 2: Lot About AJ's, defense but you, KNOW i know what

537
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,000
the upside there, is you, know the the ability to

538
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,720
manipulate a game from possession to. POSSESSION aj already does that,

539
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:46,240
really really. Well and if you give The jazz that

540
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,039
kind of level of a talent to go with those

541
00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:52,640
first three three, GUYS i mean, there you, know he's

542
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,480
walking into a situation where he's gonna win fifty to

543
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,960
fifty five, games, uh in his rookie year. Alone so

544
00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:04,359
it'll be it would Be aj' is probably the missing

545
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,119
piece to what The jazz has and what they kind of.

546
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,680
Need and, uh you, KNOW i think that the sky

547
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,440
would be the limit for. THEM i put them up

548
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,680
there With Oklahoma city And San. Antonio if if if

549
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,440
The jazz weren't able to get lucky like that in the, lottery.

550
00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:25,039
Speaker 5: Well All i'm saying is The mavericks had a one

551
00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:27,599
point eight percent chance of getting the number one overall

552
00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:31,880
pick after that done, trade and they got.

553
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 4: Him the league Like.

554
00:27:31,759 --> 00:27:33,799
Speaker 2: Dallas they don't LIKE u twel right, Now.

555
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 9: Well they've never liked The.

556
00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 5: Jazz they didn't like The New Orleans, jazz they didn't

557
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:41,559
like The Utah.

558
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 9: Jazz no one's ever liked The. Jazz, true.

559
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,559
Speaker 2: Very, true very.

560
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 4: TRUE i like the, jazz but it has nothing to

561
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:48,680
do with.

562
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,279
Speaker 9: Me SO i like to see in The chicago that's not.

563
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,920
Happening well, yeah well that's a little bit of a

564
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:54,720
selfish that.

565
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,839
Speaker 10: Is, selfish selfish desires on come.

566
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 5: TRY i, know ye, yes indeed we Got Tony, JONES

567
00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:02,480
nbam set add are representing the athletic talking some ball

568
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:05,039
with us today here on Your UTAH Espn radio. Network

569
00:28:05,319 --> 00:28:08,440
give me an overall you know, analysis what you've enjoyed

570
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,039
with the N Cuaa. Tournament there's been, undulations there's been,

571
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,279
upsets there's been a little bit of A cinderella run

572
00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:13,759
with some of these.

573
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 9: Teams we've seen eleven seed get into the sweet.

574
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,519
Speaker 5: Sixteen give me a kind of an overall grade of

575
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,279
entertainment level thus far in the NC douaa.

576
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 2: TOURNAMENT i think the thing That i've learned the most is,

577
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,519
that you, know you and c should be trying to

578
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:33,200
Get ben McCollum to be their head. Coach so, yeah

579
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,400
that's probably the one THING i. Learned you, know you

580
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,119
Watch iowa and you know what they've been able to pull,

581
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:44,079
off you, know and you, know being In nebraska last,

582
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,960
night knocking off the number one seed last, week you,

583
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,160
know just being able to and being able to knock

584
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,240
off you, know being able to knock Off florida basically In.

585
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:58,759
Tampa you, Know florida basically at home. Game you, know

586
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:01,200
the sets that they run and the offense that they

587
00:29:01,319 --> 00:29:02,359
run is just like really.

588
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 4: Beautiful Bennet sturtz has been really, good you.

589
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: Know so you, Know i've been all in on On,

590
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,720
iowa and you know what This cinderella run, is And

591
00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:16,400
cinderella comes in all stations and sizes and, forms you.

592
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,839
Know so you, KNOW i think that a lot of

593
00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:21,920
people lament, that you, know the mid major didn't you,

594
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,480
know quote unquote make a. Run you, know we didn't

595
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,119
get a mid major to get out of the first two,

596
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,200
rounds but we got In iowa that was able to

597
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,519
knock off a number one seed and then knock off

598
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:37,960
the top another top four, seed albeit that you, know

599
00:29:38,039 --> 00:29:41,319
they Knew nebraska really well because they Played nebraska.

600
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 4: Three times this.

601
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,359
Speaker 2: Year SO i, MEAN i, think you, Know cinderella could

602
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:51,160
come in in multiple definitions In iowa certainly kind of

603
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,759
filled that role so far this this. Tournament but you,

604
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:56,599
KNOW i think the other thing that's really struck me

605
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,519
is just how. Dominant the two number one seeds have

606
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,480
been that you, know we thought we're going to be,

607
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,440
dominating And i'm talking About michigan In. Arizona you, Know

608
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:10,359
arizona Crushed arkansas last, night just really crushed. Them scored

609
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:15,000
over one hundred, points only made six, threes which, means you,

610
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:18,200
know they just went inside and just kind of dominated

611
00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:22,480
in the paint and you, know The razorbacks, had you,

612
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:23,599
know no recourse.

613
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,519
Speaker 4: Defensively so you, Know arizona's.

614
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: Been everything that we we've fought And i'm looking forward

615
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:31,079
to seeing What michigan can do tonight Against.

616
00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:31,759
Speaker 4: Albela.

617
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 5: Yeah the way that the brackets kind of play down the,

618
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,039
seedings do you feel like it's a little bit of

619
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:39,880
a travesty that you, KNOW u Of a And michigan

620
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,359
could end up meeting each, other that it seemingly those

621
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,480
those teams seem like they are the best teams in this.

622
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 9: Tournament.

623
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, WELL i MEAN i don't think it's a travesty

624
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:57,519
Because duke Beat. Michigan, yeah so you Know duke GETS i,

625
00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:01,039
mean if you if you knock, off if you knock

626
00:31:01,079 --> 00:31:05,440
off the the two teams that are at the top

627
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,559
of the food chain in terms of what the resumes.

628
00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:12,039
Are they meet the new neutral.

629
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 4: Floor and the one team, wins.

630
00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: Then the one team gets a, chance you, know should

631
00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:21,720
be the top overall. Seed so you, know you, KNOW

632
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:24,640
i do think that it's shaping up that you, know

633
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,000
Of michigan And arizona meet in the final four in the,

634
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:30,880
semifinals you, know that's probably going to be a national championship.

635
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,440
Game BUT i do also think That duke earned you,

636
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,880
know the number one overall. Seed duke's just really being

637
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,119
hurt because they don't Have Caleb. Foster they need to

638
00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:43,880
Get Kayler foster back because With Caleb, foster that was

639
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,160
the one guard that they had that was really dynamic

640
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,960
off the, dribble could really break the paint and just you,

641
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,480
know kind of bend the defense off the. Dribble and without,

642
00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:57,440
him you, Know Kayden boozer has been you, know a

643
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,839
lot better than he was at the beginning of the

644
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:04,000
season in terms of putting pressure on the. Defense but you,

645
00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:06,799
Know falters by far their best guard off the, dribble

646
00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:10,200
and you, know they really really really missed that component

647
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,440
and it's caused them to look kind of ordinary in

648
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,200
the first two. Rounds and you, KNOW i don't know

649
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,720
what is his status is, tonight whether he's playing or

650
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,960
whether he's not. Playing but if he doesn't, PLAY i

651
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,319
MEAN i can really See Saint john's you, know making

652
00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:28,680
that an uncomfortable forty minutes for.

653
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 5: Them, tony give me a synopsis of the buy basketball

654
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:33,680
season from your.

655
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 9: Perch what did you, see what did you, like what

656
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:35,920
did you?

657
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 5: Dislike and you, know personnel, wise obviously there's some impact

658
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,079
with season any.

659
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 9: Injuries but give me a little breakdown from your.

660
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,519
Speaker 2: Perch, so you, KNOW i really wish they had stayed.

661
00:32:48,519 --> 00:32:52,119
HEALTHY i really, wish you, know obviously you Know Richie,

662
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:57,160
songers you, know getting hurt that that changed the entire

663
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,000
trajectory of the.

664
00:32:58,039 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 4: SEASON i thought, that.

665
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,279
Speaker 2: You, know their late, season uh kind of, resurgence kind of,

666
00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:13,160
refinding refinding themselves a little. BIT i thought, that you,

667
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,799
KNOW i was even more sold on On ajuh after

668
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:22,000
watching you, know just his competitiveness down the, stretch and you,

669
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:24,559
know they got some wins that they that they really

670
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:28,119
needed to. Have you, know they got some wins that you,

671
00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:31,640
know became the difference between them staying as a sixth

672
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,519
seed or falling down to an eight or a nine.

673
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:37,799
Seed and AND i think you KNOW ajm to a lesser,

674
00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:42,799
Degree Rob wright both you, know uh spearheaded. That so you,

675
00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:47,480
know it's it just became really. Tough you. Know we,

676
00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:51,200
uh The texas team that they lost to turned out to,

677
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,359
be you, know much better than an eleven. Seed, uh

678
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,359
they turned out to be, underseated you, know but you

679
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,079
know it it became really. Tough you, know when a

680
00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:06,200
team knows and they have a week to prepare for

681
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:09,480
you and and a team knows that you've got two

682
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:13,119
guys that are going to score the, ball and you

683
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:15,480
know essentially nobody else is going to be able to

684
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,000
score the, ball it becomes a little bit easier to,

685
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:23,039
defend you, know so in that, sense you, know, Definitely,

686
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,719
uh it really hurt for them to not have all

687
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,480
of their. Guys but you, KNOW i think that you,

688
00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:33,440
know they had a competitive a.

689
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 4: Good, season not a great.

690
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: SEASON i definitely think they wish and thought they had

691
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,760
a chance to still be playing at this. Point you,

692
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,440
know BUT i think that it's going to be a

693
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:49,679
sling shot going uh into next. Year you, know they're

694
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:54,679
going to have a similar, guy uh And Bruce, brant you,

695
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,559
know they they got they've got a good class coming

696
00:34:57,599 --> 00:34:59,719
in and we'll see if they're going to be able

697
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,719
to pick off one or one of both of those

698
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,920
U vu guys that just entered the uh the transfer,

699
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,559
portal because both of those guys are really.

700
00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 5: Good, YEAH i Mean jake Wall lean just into the

701
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,480
portal today as. Well that he STARTED i want to

702
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:15,800
say twenty something, games twenty nine, GAMES i think For.

703
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,599
Clemson he was committed to BE yu has family. Connections

704
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:22,239
ended up At utah Post. Mission i'm intrigued to see

705
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,840
where he ends up as.

706
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,639
Speaker 4: WELL i like.

707
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: IT i like him because he's a six foot ten,

708
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:30,679
guy yep that you, know he handles the ball a

709
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:34,199
lot better than his size. Dictates he handles the, ball you,

710
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:36,760
know like a six foot three guys a lot more

711
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,800
athletic than than he. Looks but you know a lot

712
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,760
OF yu guys are a lot more athletic than he.

713
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,639
Speaker 4: Looks, sorry don't don't just a.

714
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,039
Speaker 9: JOKE i love hey. MAN i Love Jim. Rats you

715
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:49,920
know WHAT i? MEAN i love. Them Jim, Rats like

716
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:50,719
just go down.

717
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:54,599
Speaker 5: All the the the, scrappy scrappy, Guys Jim.

718
00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 9: Rats you know you're not gonn outwork.

719
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,079
Speaker 10: Him it started at twenty nine games PLAYED a thirty.

720
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 9: Five, yeah he's a nice he's a nice. PROBLEM i like.

721
00:36:03,559 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 4: HIM i liked him a lot Of utah.

722
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: Though but the The Jackson homecome, kid that that's the

723
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:10,239
that's the.

724
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,519
Speaker 4: GUY i love.

725
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:14,519
Speaker 2: Him and if you, know IF i were you B,

726
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,320
Yu i'd be, Uh i'd be going into the old

727
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:17,760
and il.

728
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 4: Fund let's just put it that.

729
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 5: Way, yeah anybody else out there with Like utah and

730
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:25,360
EXTRA lds connections that let's say they do enter the

731
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,079
portal that you'd like to see and they either be

732
00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:29,599
what you Or utah uniform coming back home to the.

733
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 4: State, well The Utah state kid just entered the.

734
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 9: Portal, yeah the sixth man in the.

735
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 4: Year, yeah, yeah the six man of the.

736
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: Year what WHAT'S i forget his, name but you know

737
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:45,159
he's a he's a four to five can.

738
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:48,599
Speaker 9: Shoot the ball Car, Carson, yes.

739
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah you, know he's a four to. Five you can

740
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,480
shoot the ball a little, bit very very very scrappy

741
00:36:56,519 --> 00:36:58,960
and physical down. LOW i didn't mean to use the

742
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,159
words scrappy, again but he's you, know very physical down.

743
00:37:02,199 --> 00:37:05,760
Low you can run picking. Rolls When i'm running a

744
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,000
little picking and popping. THEM i worry about the athleticism

745
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:11,920
as as it pertains to what he's going to see

746
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,480
in a, bit what he would see in The big.

747
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 4: Twelve, uh from from night to.

748
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,639
Speaker 2: Night but you know he's a guy that THAT i

749
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:23,000
could easily, see you, KNOW byu going AFTER i like

750
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:24,039
him quite a bit At Utah.

751
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 5: State, YEAH i just, wonder you know what strategically be

752
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,079
what he wants to retain from the current. Roster are

753
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,559
they going to try to retain? Coasting is is he

754
00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:35,480
a part of the? Future do they like? Him is

755
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:38,840
B doo THE G? League you, KNOW i guess TRANSFER

756
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,599
i really do you know WHAT i? Mean BECAUSE i

757
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:43,880
mean Be do was a little bit doo. Doo no

758
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,559
offense to, him no offense to. Him you, know he's

759
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:49,239
a little bit doo. Doo but, like And i'm not

760
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,719
saying he doesn't have, potentially he's got a good foundational skill.

761
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,360
Set he's almost a seven, footer he's got a good,

762
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,599
wingspan he moves. Well he actually handles the ball pretty

763
00:37:56,599 --> 00:37:58,559
well from the top of the key when he's uh

764
00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:00,920
he's kind of distributing. It but there's, basketball like, you

765
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:03,519
Super low doesn't have a whole lot of where withal

766
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:07,280
he is a shot blocker mediocre media you, know average

767
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:12,039
shot blocker gets there the core uh tangible skill sets,

768
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:15,360
there but you just don't see him actually uh go

769
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,039
out there and be. Effective so give me a little

770
00:38:17,039 --> 00:38:18,800
breakdown to the roster who be what you should?

771
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: RETAIN i would retaining closer because you need all those

772
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,679
shooters that you can GET B.

773
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 4: DOO i would you, know.

774
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 2: Look if if IF, i IF i don't have any

775
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,840
other big at, ALL i would probably.

776
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 4: RETAIN i think he's a good riom. PROTECTOR i think

777
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:38,599
there's value in.

778
00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:42,559
Speaker 2: That BUT i, was you, know like like a lot

779
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:47,639
of B yu, GUYS i was really disappointed at. Him,

780
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:50,960
dean what what's the how do you Pronounce dean's last?

781
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,159
Speaker 9: Night Dean? Rukert are you talking About rutkert the? Freshman

782
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,400
is he coming or is he taking a? Mission will

783
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:58,920
is going on the?

784
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 5: Mission Dean's deans Playing will open shops on the Other

785
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:04,159
chimpson product like the six six.

786
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,599
Speaker 9: Kid he's going to.

787
00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:08,119
Speaker 4: Serve, Okay So dean.

788
00:39:09,079 --> 00:39:13,039
Speaker 2: RECIRK i don't know If i've the first to say,

789
00:39:13,039 --> 00:39:17,920
it but he's GOT nba potential and my guess is

790
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,559
if he comes, in he's going to not only is

791
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:22,440
he going to play right, away at some, POINT i

792
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,880
think he's going to be in the starting. Lineup terrific,

793
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:33,519
athlete terrific, shooter you, know really hardened on THE au.

794
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 4: Circuit he's, he's he's really he's.

795
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: A real Gut, so you, KNOW i, definitely.

796
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 4: You, know keep an eye on.

797
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,159
Speaker 2: HIM i Think Bruce branch is a top five pick

798
00:39:48,199 --> 00:39:51,639
in the twenty twenty SEVEN nba, draft you, know.

799
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 5: Which is pretty in because Because bruce, reclassified he should

800
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,679
be he should be a part of.

801
00:39:57,639 --> 00:40:01,559
Speaker 10: The two thousand did h you classify to?

802
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:01,679
Speaker 2: You?

803
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 9: Yeah pretty?

804
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 4: Insane that's.

805
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:03,559
Speaker 9: Crazy.

806
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:08,679
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah Bruce branch is terrific and and he's a

807
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,280
true two way. Guy can handle the, ball can can

808
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,239
really get it done, offensively and you, know he's he's terrific.

809
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,000
Defensively six six sixty. Seven will be interested to see

810
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,960
what kind of impact that he has uh next year as.

811
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,880
Well BUT i, mean he's he's gonna you, know the

812
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,800
new pipeline that's started in terms of lottery picks coming

813
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,199
to B, yu he's certainly going to to to to retain.

814
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,599
IT i, think you, know it'll be interesting to see

815
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:42,239
what happens With rob does he stay or you, know

816
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,719
does does he does he?

817
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,159
Speaker 4: GO i don't know what.

818
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 9: He said unless he goes.

819
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,559
Speaker 5: Professional so it's either there's professional or but he'd be

820
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:53,360
a second round.

821
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 10: Pick, yeah he's second round Like. Richie you, know his

822
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,840
speculation is that he's. Staying he just released a what

823
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,719
is A Coasta vita?

824
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,079
Speaker 9: Ad, yeah he's doing some nil.

825
00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 5: STUFF i, mean you, know THE nba doesn't have many

826
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,199
Like Tim hardaway's, anymore right THAT i grew up.

827
00:41:08,199 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: With so the thing is interesting Will rob because at

828
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,320
the beginning of the, season you, KNOW i THOUGHT i was,

829
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,199
like you, know no way this kid has a chance

830
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,119
to play in THE. Nba and then you KNOW i

831
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:23,280
saw him in a little bit of a futured role.

832
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 5: And he.

833
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 2: You, know he gets to the basket off the dribble

834
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,760
at AN nba. Level so that skill alone is going

835
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:41,079
to possibly give him a. Chance but as a small,

836
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:43,199
guard there are a couple of things that he's gotta.

837
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,159
Do he's gotta get, way way way better, defensively he's

838
00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:50,639
got to get way better and he's going to have

839
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:54,079
to shoot the ball a lot better than he has

840
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,880
up to this point in his. Career you, Know SO

841
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,039
i think that he needs to come back and he

842
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:02,760
needs to prove that he can run a. Team you,

843
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,480
know he's proven that he can, score and he's proven

844
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:09,719
that he can can can play. Offense but he THE,

845
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,639
nba like you, said you, know with small, guards you,

846
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:17,559
know they're not Many Tree, Young's they're not Many darius A.

847
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:20,920
Cuffs you, know if you're a small guard Like, Rob

848
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:23,679
you're gonna have to, prove you, know that you can

849
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,800
run a, team that you can, defend that you can

850
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,360
make shots when you get when you get open. Looks you.

851
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,880
Know SO i Think rob will be best served coming

852
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,000
back and kind of be in the hub of next

853
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,639
YEAR'S byu team BECAUSE i think that that's what would

854
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:43,559
happen him And. Bruce but if you, KNOW i think

855
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:45,960
there's a lot to be done with the, roster BUT

856
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,800
i think the the potential is there for them to,

857
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:52,920
have you, know a.

858
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,119
Speaker 4: Top, ten top fifteen type season next. Year, yeah.

859
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:00,599
Speaker 5: Eight cuff is like six, two six, three Though rob

860
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:03,639
writ's like five, eleven maybe five eleven and a.

861
00:43:03,679 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 4: Half, YEAH i WALKED i walked by him IN aj.

862
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:15,039
Speaker 2: Last saturday at The Delta, center and, Yeah rob's not six.

863
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 5: Feet list that's What i'm, SAYING I i MEAN i see.

864
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,360
HIM i, mean, LOOK i grew up in you, Know Tim,

865
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,679
Hardaway Kevin, Johnson, ERA Bj, armstrong you know these you,

866
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,079
know undersized point.

867
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 9: GUARDS i just no one's getting them.

868
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:31,199
Speaker 5: Them no one wants him anymore, there you, Know so

869
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,719
he's got to be he's going to improve his defense as. Well,

870
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,639
right he's got to utilize that fast, twitched, mongoose honey

871
00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:40,280
badger like mentality in order to get, there right to THE.

872
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: Nba, well so you, know let's let's let's put let's

873
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:51,280
let's Highlight Jose. Alvarado why has he been able to

874
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:51,920
stay in THE?

875
00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 4: Nba and my opinion is that he's been able to

876
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,960
stay in THE nba for like two.

877
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: Reasons he's been able to, defend stay in front of,

878
00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:06,480
guys not be not not be taking advantage of, defensively

879
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:11,280
and he makes open. Shots you, know he's he's not

880
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,079
as he's not nearly as ball in hand as you

881
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:17,760
know a five foot eleven six foot guy would would.

882
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,760
Suggest you, know he plays off the ball a, lot

883
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:26,079
but when he gets an open, shot that shots going.

884
00:44:26,119 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 4: In and when.

885
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: He's on the floor and he's defending a guy he's

886
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:35,800
making life difficult for the guy that he's, defending and

887
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,320
that's kind of what you have to be at that

888
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,000
stots in THE nba.

889
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,199
Speaker 5: Rapid fire recuak who wins the N caa. Tournament who's

890
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:42,760
the champion this?

891
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 4: Year is he going to be The Michigan arizona though.

892
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: At this POINT i can't see anybody other than than

893
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,239
those two.

894
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 5: WINNING i, know Kay why wants to build a pro

895
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:01,159
pipeline and he wants to pro, analytics pro. SCIMAT i

896
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:04,119
saw too MUCH ISO bo fans were complaining about. It

897
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:05,440
does he need to change it up a little bit,

898
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,960
schematically offensively and defensively in order to win games at

899
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:10,440
the clegiate.

900
00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: LEVEL i think it has to be a balance BECAUSE

901
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,480
i think if you, keep if you recruit Aj demansas

902
00:45:17,519 --> 00:45:19,760
of the world and The Bruce branches of the, world

903
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,440
and even The Rob right of the, world you're doing

904
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,360
it with the promise to those guys to showcase those.

905
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,239
Guys so in that, sense you, know there's gotta be some.

906
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:35,519
Isolation but in the but in the other, sense you,

907
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:40,239
KNOW i think the ball could have moved this year

908
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,960
a little bit more than it, Did AND i actually

909
00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:45,760
don't put that on a J i'll put that on rob.

910
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,519
Speaker 5: Right Tony, jones the most sneaky, athletic deceptively, quick place

911
00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:54,239
faster than he. Looks HIGH iq journalist in the game

912
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,119
as the game first in firstut always brings his hard

913
00:45:58,159 --> 00:46:01,519
hat to work type of journalist ladies and.

914
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 10: Gentlemen If tony been playing in the media, GAME i

915
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,239
wouldn't have won, it he.

916
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 9: Wanted oh is that right To?

917
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 10: Tony and you know, how you know how my ego.

918
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,400
Is i'm willing to like.

919
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 5: Call i'm super, crafty, SHIFTY i got good, Feet i'm

920
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,239
always under. Control. Tony you better watch out for me. Too,

921
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,679
MAN i bring my hard, hat won't with? Me, No,

922
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,679
MAN i hit too many see too many injuries in

923
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,760
my real job THAT i go out there and play

924
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,119
hoop with.

925
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 2: People, LISZTEN i actually hooped yesterday AT uh In New,

926
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:39,039
jersey And uh it was a good day.

927
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 9: For the worst Of Jose.

928
00:46:38,519 --> 00:46:40,559
Speaker 10: Alvarado YES i could, Shoot.

929
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 5: YES i, Could Tony, Jones, tony best way to support

930
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,320
you what you, do how you do it for all our?

931
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,039
Speaker 9: Listeners? Uh best way tell Us.

932
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,639
Speaker 2: I'll just go to the, athletic you, know just hit

933
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:56,719
me up at The athletic and you know obviously you. Can,

934
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,679
uh you can catch me On twitter at T jones

935
00:46:59,679 --> 00:46:59,800
on the.

936
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 5: End, yeah and keep arguing with people On. Twitter allow

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Speaker 5: Es, Indeed Tony jones raising gentlemen AT T jones THE.

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Speaker 9: Bet appreciate you, Man thank, you.

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