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Preston Handy on the line. Gentlemen, how you guys doing today?
Speaker 6: Ben doing well? How you doing? Happy Friday?
Speaker 2: Hey, Ben?
Speaker 5: Happy Friday to you, gentlemen. Do things like pick up
on Fridays a little bit slower, you know, can do
you guys kind of schedule things out so you're not
going to be super duper busy in the afternoons on
Friday afternoons.
Speaker 7: I think there's a Friday afternoon vibe for sure. I
think people start slowing down. No one wants to be
getting on calls. No one certainly doesn't want.
Speaker 6: To go to court.
Speaker 7: But no, yeah, there's a Friday afternoon vibe.
Speaker 5: You guys are injury attorneys. Like, so, I'm in the
med device industry. I've been on call for years. Right,
it always seems like like accidents, like major injuries, and
like we're like, you know, and I would like to
know like kind of like just it's anecdotally, like the
the injury rates that I feel like they skyrocket on
like Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Is that is that an
accurate depiction? And this is just my theory.
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't have that statistic. What about you, Garrett,
I don't know.
Speaker 8: I think they do a little bit. I find that
Monday morning and get into the office, there's you know,
and there can be a bunch of voicemails or messages
from people wanted to talk to us about what happened
over the weekend.
Speaker 5: For sure, I have to look up some of that data,
but just kind of anecdotally.
Speaker 9: I was just kind of thinking about that.
Speaker 5: Let's get into this sports Court segment brought to you
by Handy Law Utah. Handy Law Utah dot com always
like talking sports court with you guys. Let's start off
with the NFL and sports books being sued for micro
betting and gambling addictions.
Speaker 9: So look, this is going to continue to pop up.
Speaker 5: I think we need to, uh, there's got to be accountability,
I think on these fronts because there's so much much
bunt money being made and so many lives being ruined.
Speaker 9: Guys, give us the latest on this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I mean today we're going to talk about
a couple of stories. Draft Kings is in the crosshairs
for sure, and.
Speaker 6: You know, I think we're seeing the future.
Speaker 7: A few weeks ago, we talked about a story that
was outside this but kind of related to it, where
Meta Facebook had been sued by a woman who claimed
that she had been you know, social media, had been
addicted to it, addicted to it and resulted in a
lot of mental illness and emotional challenges and.
Speaker 6: Anxiety over time.
Speaker 7: And that trial just came out a day or two ago,
and she actually won her trial against Meta got a
you know, a six million dollar ward that's not going
to hurt them, but she actually war won that. So
I think that's kind of an indication of what's going
to happen. And we thought, how's this going to go
into the sports world. Well, we're seeing it right now.
Two Pennsylvania guys are assuming Draft Kings, NFL a few
other groups claiming that their app encourages micro betting and
his holded in addictive gambling towards them. They're issues of negligence.
They claim, negligence designed effect, failure to warn, and unfair
trade practices. They have basically three assertions. You know, it
digs into this whole technology stuff, but they just talk about,
you know, online sports gambling platforms have allegedly turned non
addictive products into what is described as relentless, always on
addiction amplifying machine through personalizing timing faster sports. They claim
that the defective design of sports betting app is how
they facilitate and promote live in game wagers that's important
placed on virtually limitless array of events that occurred during
the course of sport events in time, you know. And
then the final thing they kind of allege is that
they're accused of enabling micro betting and encouraging gamblers to
become hooked on macro betting.
Speaker 6: So what is going on, Ben, This is crazy. This
micro betting is you know, someone's sitting on their app,
they're watching a game.
Speaker 7: They can actually bet in time on something's going to happen.
Is he can dribble it off his foot, they can
bet on that, you know.
Speaker 6: And someone who's got the.
Speaker 7: Propensity to this and they've got their credit card in
there and they're just like, oh, I'm going, I'm going,
I'm going, you know, and these two guys are claiming,
you know, they've lost two million dollars that they're praying
on their you know, their weaknesses.
Speaker 6: You know, gamblers in.
Speaker 7: General have kind of a you know, they want to
do it. But if you've got an addictive personality and
this hits on it, it's crazy.
Speaker 6: And then another thing they do is they.
Speaker 7: Have hosts, hosts people that reach out to him at
times and say, hey, Ben, we haven't seen you betting.
Speaker 6: With us for a while. We've got some great opportunities
micro betting. Come on, come back. You know, that's the
wrong thing.
Speaker 7: You know, you're just you know, handing someone who's you know,
addicted to something to go it. You know, So they
are really promoting this. So I think this is a
wave that we're going to wait and see what happens.
You know, it's just started.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: I think lawyers have taken this case, and they're sophisticated,
very high powered, good lawyers that are pursuing this. They
think there's some valid claims there, you know, that can
be uncovered and you know and kind of probably not
only help these two guys, but probably set set some
standards for going gambling going in the future.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of lives being ruined up, Tony.
Speaker 5: Look, men, you know, humans have addictive personalities sometimes, and
we should probably set up some standards for the weakest
among us, in my opinion.
Speaker 6: Let's say you said, man, humans, it's men.
Speaker 9: Man, it's men. You know, betting it's all men.
Speaker 5: I mean, I you know, I try to be an
equal opportunist with my commentaries. You know, I don't want
to offend anybody, you know, as a guy that has
all sisters. It's men, all right, it's men's men. Why
why is it that men, you know are so I mean,
because are women?
Speaker 9: Are women gambling addicts?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 5: Like in general, like you know, I mean I do
see on the slots, I see more little ladies on
the slots, you know, the game slots. I mean, they
got some weakness there though, you know, they have some issues.
Speaker 9: It's not just us.
Speaker 7: Well I don't know about that, but you know, we
talked about this history on the program and Garrett point.
You know, when someone steps up to a window and
they've thought about their bet, and they're gonna put some
money down on a bet, and they've decided here's how
much I can bet, Here's what I'm betting on you know,
the over under who's gonna win this game.
Speaker 8: That's it.
Speaker 6: But if you're sitting you with your phone and your
phone is.
Speaker 9: Just yeah, buzzing you, Yeah.
Speaker 7: Tempting, buzzing that you tempting you, and like, oh, well
I didn't do that one. I didn't, you know, for
the wrong personality. Who's really doing this? And there are millions,
millions doing this. It's it's dangerous.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the gamification of gambling, that's where it becomes pretty insane.
I mean you walk off that plane like in Vegas
and it's just like just bright lights itch. It's like
my son was drawn to the the the the arcade
looking gambling. You know, games that are daddy, Can I
have that?
Speaker 9: Can I go? Like, no, you will not. I had to.
Speaker 5: I had to put my foot down. Do not get
near those things. Those are those are of the devil
of the day of the devil. Anyway, NCAA seing DraftKings
for infringement to blocker use of March Madness trademarks.
Speaker 9: Give me a little detail on this.
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, you know, as you know, I mean, March
Madness is uh, this is a this is the one
of maybe the premier event for the n C DOUAA.
They make a ton of money, right, and so they're
very protective of their brand and everything. And so some
of these terms March Madness is one of them, Final four,
Elite eight, Sweet sixteen. These are actually registered trademarks, right.
This is this is their brand and they have spent
you know, decades cultivating this and these even these terms,
I mean, have just entered our collective consciousness. You know,
we talk about final fours and different things like that
all the time. But what's happening, and this is a
little bit of a followup what Presso was just talking about,
is you know, you're inundated on these sports betting apps,
and what they're doing is they're running ads saying, hey,
place your bets on March Madness. And at the end
set of late you know understandably has a problem with that,
They're going, hey, wait a minute, this is this is
going to confuse people and consumers are going to think
that we're endorsing this or that we're somehow connected with you,
and we want to make really clear that we're not.
And so they have they have sued Draft Kings for
trademark infringement. They want a temporary restraining order. I mean
games are going on right now, and so they're saying, hey,
we this needs to be taken down from your site
right now. You can't be using those terms or anything
like that because you know, we're we're we're going to
stay far away from this, you know, as the Collegiate
Sport Association.
Speaker 5: Man Frank Thomas, Frank Thomas. This is going to hit
home for Ronald the three Man Weaver. I grew up
watching Frank Thomas, Frank Thomas suing the White Sox hike
and fantas over City Connect jersey sales.
Speaker 9: Uh what's the lady shown on Big Frank.
Speaker 6: Well, Frank Hall of Famer, beloved White Sox player.
Speaker 7: He's learned that, you know, the White Sox have been
doing They've been selling jerseys with his name on it.
Speaker 6: And you know, in today's.
Speaker 7: World, guys are hearing what are they hearing about? They're
hearing about name, image and likeness. That didn't uhould be
a term that we ever used the name, image of
likeness and protecting your brand. And he realizes that the
White Sox are making a lot of money off the
jerseys that they're selling with his name on it. So
he has sued them, saying, you've made money. You owe
me money. You know, you profited from my name, my name,
image and likeness, you know, And it's interesting the jersey
Ronald like this, the jersey that they've really been promoting
is it's interesting.
Speaker 6: It's a baseball jersey.
Speaker 7: It's a baseball style jersey, but it's it's in the
Chicago Bulls motif. It's it's read with with you know,
black accents and black stripes on it. But it's got
Frank Thomas Thomas's.
Speaker 6: Name on it.
Speaker 7: And I think he's got a legitimate claim here. You know,
he's following the what's called the Illinois Right to Publicy
Publicity Act, you know, saying that they're violating that and
uh uh, you know, companies may not profit from anyone's
identity without their permission.
Speaker 6: We believe our filing speaks for ourselfs.
Speaker 7: So that's what they're saying is you've been doing this,
and they've probably been doing it for years and years
since he retired. You know, every team does that. You know,
there's you see people wearing retired players jerseys everywhere. So
I think that he's entitled to something for that, they're.
Speaker 8: Using his name image of likeness, so he sued him.
Speaker 6: Just getting going, We'll see what happens.
Speaker 10: The Big Hurt is about to get some hurting on
the white Big Hurt.
Speaker 5: He wasn't all that. He wasn't all that friendly and
signing autographs.
Speaker 9: He did not like.
Speaker 5: He did not sign autograph. He was angry. He was
always angry. But that's a different Yeah, we had Big Hurt.
Was Big Hurt after every game, even if after every
single you know outing. I guess, all right, locals in
the NFL not what you'd like to see. I've gotten
many a text, many of calls about this. They're like,
what's going on with Pooka Nikuah, I don't know, but
local NFL star pookaaku accused of biting a woman and saying, uh,
fornication under the consent of the king all the Jews.
That's how I do my acronyms on the show. Sorry guys.
Uh yeah, anyway, that's what he said. Apparently, all right, guys, yeah,
break this down.
Speaker 9: What do they have going on?
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what he said. He's he's facing a lawsuit.
This is over a New Year's eve party, I guess,
and the lawsuit says that Nikua became quote intoxicated and
was acting strange and touchy feely with women women at
the dinner. There's an allegation that he bit two of
these women. There's a bite mark on a you can
see on her shoulder and someone else's the other woman's thumb.
They were in a I guess, in a sprinter van together,
and so he's facing a lawsuit now. I think what's
a little bit interesting about this is Puka Nakua's attorney
has has come out, you know, pretty pretty forcely denying
this and even to the point of saying that he's
going to file a defamation lawsuit in response. It looks
like the defense is to basically say, hey, he was
it was horse play, he never said this anti Semitic comment,
and that this is a shakedown and this is a
way to just get money from him and this has
no no basis. So he's, you know, in kind of
going on the offense here a little bit, at least
in the media. There's a hearing coming up in a
couple of weeks on April fourteenth, and so we might
learn more about it then. But I don't know, ben
at Animum. I think Puka and Nkua needs just needs to.
Speaker 4: Be a little careful field.
Speaker 8: He's showing up in the news for all the wrong
reasons too much lately.
Speaker 5: It seemed like, yeah, you might as well just spend
some money, like on security. You know, it's kind of
like your self help coach baby, you know, babysitter, so
that you don't do stupid stuff.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Look, I always say many US mammals and US men
we need mentors. If we if we're not having good mentors,
good people around us, really like we can fall prey
to the follies of men.
Speaker 9: And uh, I think that's what's happening.
Speaker 5: You know, maybe a combination of repression, affluence, fame, and
being in the city of Los Angeles isn't a good
recipe for Puka Nukua happiness and success. Hopefully he's learning
his lessons the hard way and uh, you know, yeah,
hopefully he's Uh, he's gonna get back on the right
track here, all right, doc QUI this was crazy, quadruple
ampty cornhole professional has been jailed on murder charges. Crazy
stuff happening here?
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, then Kart and I have been talking
about for some time. We're like, how can we somehow
get a story of cornhole into sports quot you know,
the competition of cornhole. When is it going to happen
that we we can talk about that. So this is
a story that kind of caught the attention to the nation.
This is a guy named Dayton Weber. His background is
he at birth had some serious infections, infections that threatened
his life and as a result, he had amputation of
all four limbs, you know, partial amputation of all the
four limbs, and so he's been living like this throughout
his life. I think he's twenty seven years old now.
But the guy likes sports, you know. He tried to
play some football, you know, to whatever extent, some track
and field events, and now he's become a professional cornhole
player pretty good, I guess.
Speaker 6: You know. There there's some YouTube videos out there.
Speaker 7: But while we're talking about in sports court, it's not
because of the cornhole issue.
Speaker 6: It's because he has He was.
Speaker 7: In a car and he decided to shoot and kill someone. Allegedly,
there were some witnesses there who didn't want to jump
on with him and help him out and be accomplished
to this and he apparently drove to Virginia. They tracked
him down through surveillance. He was arrested in Virginia and
charged with first and second degree murder and he is
now they're trying to extradite him back to Maryland, you know,
to face the charges.
Speaker 6: So murder charges for our guy Dayton Whoeber.
Speaker 7: You know, maybe they've got a good cornhole competition there
going in the penitentiary.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, gracious man. Just bad decisions, bad decisions
ladies and gentlemen. Not good, not good at all, guys.
That's our sport court.
Speaker 4: Now.
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love talking sport court. But uh, you guys do you
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you joining us. Enjoy your weekend. Be safe and don't
make any bad decisions. Don't gamble, you know, don't do
anything crazy. All right, be safe, don't bite, don't buy me,
don't bite anybody.
Speaker 9: Yeah, don't buy anybody you know, don't.
Speaker 7: Yeah, stands the cornhole stands the cornhole tournament.
Speaker 5: Stay away from those cornhole throwers and people's jerseys, you know,
I guess all of them. Yeah, And don't infringe on
any sort of intellectual property.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's right.
Speaker 8: Okay, Thanks guys, Thanks.
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Speaker 9: You know what is kind of crazy? March madness. March
madness is crazy.
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Speaker 9: Think it's over.
Speaker 4: It's a wrap.
Speaker 10: Kelvin Samson, as Brett always says, Brett bringing the hammery
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They let me down, but my Illinois finding the line,
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Mixed emotions in the house, motions in the household, indeed.
But yeah, I'm not going to tell you. I looked
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So a lot of people picked Arizona. So I have
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Speaker 9: That's what I have. So did you pick a Z?
Did you go with Arizona? I did? I think? Uh well,
I only did two.
Speaker 5: Brackets and one of them, I did pick Houston, and
when I picked you of A, I hope I didn't
choose about Houston. I don't know if I chose Houston.
Speaker 9: Did I choose Houston? I chose.
Speaker 5: I chose Houston and U of A to meet in
the finals because I'm a big twelve homer.
Speaker 10: But I'm a big twelve homer as well. Look, I
picked Arizona the winner one of them. I know I
just said it, but I picked Arizona Houston to meet
in the final of all of them. And I'm very disappointed.
Now disappointed. I need Arizona to beat Michigan.
Speaker 2: Man.
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All right, let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in.
He's a former Utah Jazz insider. Now he's covering the
Sixers and the NBA four, the Athletic. We got the one,
the only Tony Jones on the line. Tony, how you living?
Speaker 2: I'm good man, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you.
Speaker 9: Heck yeah, man, blessing having you on our show.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: How long has it been now since you moved on
from the Utah Jazz portion of covering covering in the
NBA for the Athletic and heading out to Philly to
cover the Sixers.
Speaker 2: I think the irony of it is I actually covered
the Jazz a little bit more this year than I
did last year, but I physically moved in September. So
what is that month nine? And what are we a
month three? So roughly six months now. So six months
since I physically moved out of the state of Utah,
have been back twice. I was including I was back
last week. But yeah, it's it's been. It's been an
interesting it's been an interest in six months for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, what's so, what percentage would you say
of your bandwidth is allocated to covering jazz material?
Speaker 9: Still?
Speaker 2: Probably well, now that you know all of the the
the tanking stuff is it's kind of yesterday's news. Probably
not as much towards the end of the season. I'm
probably all six ers now. But once the Jazz get
into the lottery and once they actually make a draft
pick uh and heading the free agency, I'll be there
to cover some I expect to be back uh and
covering the Salt Lake City Summer League this just July
before I go to Vegas and cover Summer Week in Vegas.
Speaker 10: Tony, you mean when the Jazz draft.
Speaker 5: Ten percent chance? Ten point five percent chance?
Speaker 2: You guys ready for my AJ to boxer Utah Jazz
hot take.
Speaker 9: Let's go go.
Speaker 2: You ready for it?
Speaker 9: I've been ready, I've been ready. I was born ready
for this.
Speaker 2: Okay, If the Jazz draft AJ de Bonca Ma hot
take is that they will win an NBA championship within
three years.
Speaker 10: Ooh, I like that hot take?
Speaker 5: You feel do you feel like? I mean, look, you
know jazz history. I was looking at it as far
as their draft picks and things of that nature, where
they've actually, you know, I mean, it's it's a rarity
for them to get into that two slot. I think
most of the highest spot they've typically been at the three.
One year they they drafted I think Dominiqu Wilkins, they
ended up trading him because he wasn't gonna play, he
didn't want to play, and you saw all those things,
right Like, Historically the Jazz have not been all that
lucky with their lottery selection position. How do you feeling
about BA or excuse me, Utah Jazz opportunity to get
BYU's product AJ Tabonsa in the lottery this year, AG
is going number one. The last odds I saw was
Jazz at ten and a half percent. Do you think
the puppeteers the NBA maybe give him a solid even
though all this tanking stuff has occurred, and they give
them a solid and maybe they get it that number
one overall pick.
Speaker 2: Now, to be clear, I do not feel good about
you toss chances of getting number one. But if they did,
if like Lightning Struck, you know, the seas party, cats
and dogs started living together, things like that, and they
got the number one pick, then I can see the
Jazz winning the NBA Championship and within three years of
getting aged Debosa because that listen, Kyante George Lowry marking
the Jaron Jackson Jr. You know you already have you know,
three guys who are like All Star level kind of players.
They're all three of those guys. You know, two of
them have already seen an All Star Game in their career.
Kyante is going to eventually see an All Star Game
at some point in his career. But you know the
Bonsor is is you know, he's another you know, I
lived through Prime Tracy McGrady. He's the closest thing I've
seen through Prime. Tracy McGrady might not have quite the
the the top end athleticism Emmigrady did, but the ability,
you know, the ability to control a game at six'
nine on both ends of the, floor from possession to.
Speaker 4: POSSESSION i know we talk a.
Speaker 2: Lot About AJ's, defense but you, KNOW i know what
the upside there, is you, know the the ability to
manipulate a game from possession to. POSSESSION aj already does that,
really really. Well and if you give The jazz that
kind of level of a talent to go with those
first three three, GUYS i mean, there you, know he's
walking into a situation where he's gonna win fifty to
fifty five, games, uh in his rookie year. Alone so
it'll be it would Be aj' is probably the missing
piece to what The jazz has and what they kind of.
Need and, uh you, KNOW i think that the sky
would be the limit for. THEM i put them up
there With Oklahoma city And San. Antonio if if if
The jazz weren't able to get lucky like that in the, lottery.
Speaker 5: Well All i'm saying is The mavericks had a one
point eight percent chance of getting the number one overall
pick after that done, trade and they got.
Speaker 4: Him the league Like.
Speaker 2: Dallas they don't LIKE u twel right, Now.
Speaker 9: Well they've never liked The.
Speaker 5: Jazz they didn't like The New Orleans, jazz they didn't
like The Utah.
Speaker 9: Jazz no one's ever liked The. Jazz, true.
Speaker 2: Very, true very.
Speaker 4: TRUE i like the, jazz but it has nothing to
do with.
Speaker 9: Me SO i like to see in The chicago that's not.
Happening well, yeah well that's a little bit of a
selfish that.
Speaker 10: Is, selfish selfish desires on come.
Speaker 5: TRY i, know ye, yes indeed we Got Tony, JONES
nbam set add are representing the athletic talking some ball
with us today here on Your UTAH Espn radio. Network
give me an overall you know, analysis what you've enjoyed
with the N Cuaa. Tournament there's been, undulations there's been,
upsets there's been a little bit of A cinderella run
with some of these.
Speaker 9: Teams we've seen eleven seed get into the sweet.
Speaker 5: Sixteen give me a kind of an overall grade of
entertainment level thus far in the NC douaa.
Speaker 2: TOURNAMENT i think the thing That i've learned the most is,
that you, know you and c should be trying to
Get ben McCollum to be their head. Coach so, yeah
that's probably the one THING i. Learned you, know you
Watch iowa and you know what they've been able to pull,
off you, know and you, know being In nebraska last,
night knocking off the number one seed last, week you,
know just being able to and being able to knock
off you, know being able to knock Off florida basically In.
Tampa you, Know florida basically at home. Game you, know
the sets that they run and the offense that they
run is just like really.
Speaker 4: Beautiful Bennet sturtz has been really, good you.
Speaker 2: Know so you, Know i've been all in on On,
iowa and you know what This cinderella run, is And
cinderella comes in all stations and sizes and, forms you.
Know so you, KNOW i think that a lot of
people lament, that you, know the mid major didn't you,
know quote unquote make a. Run you, know we didn't
get a mid major to get out of the first two,
rounds but we got In iowa that was able to
knock off a number one seed and then knock off
the top another top four, seed albeit that you, know
they Knew nebraska really well because they Played nebraska.
Speaker 4: Three times this.
Speaker 2: Year SO i, MEAN i, think you, Know cinderella could
come in in multiple definitions In iowa certainly kind of
filled that role so far this this. Tournament but you,
KNOW i think the other thing that's really struck me
is just how. Dominant the two number one seeds have
been that you, know we thought we're going to be,
dominating And i'm talking About michigan In. Arizona you, Know
arizona Crushed arkansas last, night just really crushed. Them scored
over one hundred, points only made six, threes which, means you,
know they just went inside and just kind of dominated
in the paint and you, know The razorbacks, had you,
know no recourse.
Speaker 4: Defensively so you, Know arizona's.
Speaker 2: Been everything that we we've fought And i'm looking forward
to seeing What michigan can do tonight Against.
Speaker 4: Albela.
Speaker 5: Yeah the way that the brackets kind of play down the,
seedings do you feel like it's a little bit of
a travesty that you, KNOW u Of a And michigan
could end up meeting each, other that it seemingly those
those teams seem like they are the best teams in this.
Speaker 9: Tournament.
Speaker 2: Yeah, WELL i MEAN i don't think it's a travesty
Because duke Beat. Michigan, yeah so you Know duke GETS i,
mean if you if you knock, off if you knock
off the the two teams that are at the top
of the food chain in terms of what the resumes.
Are they meet the new neutral.
Speaker 4: Floor and the one team, wins.
Speaker 2: Then the one team gets a, chance you, know should
be the top overall. Seed so you, know you, KNOW
i do think that it's shaping up that you, know
Of michigan And arizona meet in the final four in the,
semifinals you, know that's probably going to be a national championship.
Game BUT i do also think That duke earned you,
know the number one overall. Seed duke's just really being
hurt because they don't Have Caleb. Foster they need to
Get Kayler foster back because With Caleb, foster that was
the one guard that they had that was really dynamic
off the, dribble could really break the paint and just you,
know kind of bend the defense off the. Dribble and without,
him you, Know Kayden boozer has been you, know a
lot better than he was at the beginning of the
season in terms of putting pressure on the. Defense but you,
Know falters by far their best guard off the, dribble
and you, know they really really really missed that component
and it's caused them to look kind of ordinary in
the first two. Rounds and you, KNOW i don't know
what is his status is, tonight whether he's playing or
whether he's not. Playing but if he doesn't, PLAY i
MEAN i can really See Saint john's you, know making
that an uncomfortable forty minutes for.
Speaker 5: Them, tony give me a synopsis of the buy basketball
season from your.
Speaker 9: Perch what did you, see what did you, like what
did you?
Speaker 5: Dislike and you, know personnel, wise obviously there's some impact
with season any.
Speaker 9: Injuries but give me a little breakdown from your.
Speaker 2: Perch, so you, KNOW i really wish they had stayed.
HEALTHY i really, wish you, know obviously you Know Richie,
songers you, know getting hurt that that changed the entire
trajectory of the.
Speaker 4: SEASON i thought, that.
Speaker 2: You, know their late, season uh kind of, resurgence kind of,
refinding refinding themselves a little. BIT i thought, that you,
KNOW i was even more sold on On ajuh after
watching you, know just his competitiveness down the, stretch and you,
know they got some wins that they that they really
needed to. Have you, know they got some wins that you,
know became the difference between them staying as a sixth
seed or falling down to an eight or a nine.
Seed and AND i think you KNOW ajm to a lesser,
Degree Rob wright both you, know uh spearheaded. That so you,
know it's it just became really. Tough you. Know we,
uh The texas team that they lost to turned out to,
be you, know much better than an eleven. Seed, uh
they turned out to be, underseated you, know but you
know it it became really. Tough you, know when a
team knows and they have a week to prepare for
you and and a team knows that you've got two
guys that are going to score the, ball and you
know essentially nobody else is going to be able to
score the, ball it becomes a little bit easier to,
defend you, know so in that, sense you, know, Definitely,
uh it really hurt for them to not have all
of their. Guys but you, KNOW i think that you,
know they had a competitive a.
Speaker 4: Good, season not a great.
Speaker 2: SEASON i definitely think they wish and thought they had
a chance to still be playing at this. Point you,
know BUT i think that it's going to be a
sling shot going uh into next. Year you, know they're
going to have a similar, guy uh And Bruce, brant you,
know they they got they've got a good class coming
in and we'll see if they're going to be able
to pick off one or one of both of those
U vu guys that just entered the uh the transfer,
portal because both of those guys are really.
Speaker 5: Good, YEAH i Mean jake Wall lean just into the
portal today as. Well that he STARTED i want to
say twenty something, games twenty nine, GAMES i think For.
Clemson he was committed to BE yu has family. Connections
ended up At utah Post. Mission i'm intrigued to see
where he ends up as.
Speaker 4: WELL i like.
Speaker 2: IT i like him because he's a six foot ten,
guy yep that you, know he handles the ball a
lot better than his size. Dictates he handles the, ball you,
know like a six foot three guys a lot more
athletic than than he. Looks but you know a lot
OF yu guys are a lot more athletic than he.
Speaker 4: Looks, sorry don't don't just a.
Speaker 9: JOKE i love hey. MAN i Love Jim. Rats you
know WHAT i? MEAN i love. Them Jim, Rats like
just go down.
Speaker 5: All the the the, scrappy scrappy, Guys Jim.
Speaker 9: Rats you know you're not gonn outwork.
Speaker 10: Him it started at twenty nine games PLAYED a thirty.
Speaker 9: Five, yeah he's a nice he's a nice. PROBLEM i like.
Speaker 4: HIM i liked him a lot Of utah.
Speaker 2: Though but the The Jackson homecome, kid that that's the
that's the.
Speaker 4: GUY i love.
Speaker 2: Him and if you, know IF i were you B,
Yu i'd be, Uh i'd be going into the old
and il.
Speaker 4: Fund let's just put it that.
Speaker 5: Way, yeah anybody else out there with Like utah and
EXTRA lds connections that let's say they do enter the
portal that you'd like to see and they either be
what you Or utah uniform coming back home to the.
Speaker 4: State, well The Utah state kid just entered the.
Speaker 9: Portal, yeah the sixth man in the.
Speaker 4: Year, yeah, yeah the six man of the.
Speaker 2: Year what WHAT'S i forget his, name but you know
he's a he's a four to five can.
Speaker 9: Shoot the ball Car, Carson, yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah you, know he's a four to. Five you can
shoot the ball a little, bit very very very scrappy
and physical down. LOW i didn't mean to use the
words scrappy, again but he's you, know very physical down.
Low you can run picking. Rolls When i'm running a
little picking and popping. THEM i worry about the athleticism
as as it pertains to what he's going to see
in a, bit what he would see in The big.
Speaker 4: Twelve, uh from from night to.
Speaker 2: Night but you know he's a guy that THAT i
could easily, see you, KNOW byu going AFTER i like
him quite a bit At Utah.
Speaker 5: State, YEAH i just, wonder you know what strategically be
what he wants to retain from the current. Roster are
they going to try to retain? Coasting is is he
a part of the? Future do they like? Him is
B doo THE G? League you, KNOW i guess TRANSFER
i really do you know WHAT i? Mean BECAUSE i
mean Be do was a little bit doo. Doo no
offense to, him no offense to. Him you, know he's
a little bit doo. Doo but, like And i'm not
saying he doesn't have, potentially he's got a good foundational skill.
Set he's almost a seven, footer he's got a good,
wingspan he moves. Well he actually handles the ball pretty
well from the top of the key when he's uh
he's kind of distributing. It but there's, basketball like, you
Super low doesn't have a whole lot of where withal
he is a shot blocker mediocre media you, know average
shot blocker gets there the core uh tangible skill sets,
there but you just don't see him actually uh go
out there and be. Effective so give me a little
breakdown to the roster who be what you should?
Speaker 2: RETAIN i would retaining closer because you need all those
shooters that you can GET B.
Speaker 4: DOO i would you, know.
Speaker 2: Look if if IF, i IF i don't have any
other big at, ALL i would probably.
Speaker 4: RETAIN i think he's a good riom. PROTECTOR i think
there's value in.
Speaker 2: That BUT i, was you, know like like a lot
of B yu, GUYS i was really disappointed at. Him,
dean what what's the how do you Pronounce dean's last?
Speaker 9: Night Dean? Rukert are you talking About rutkert the? Freshman
is he coming or is he taking a? Mission will
is going on the?
Speaker 5: Mission Dean's deans Playing will open shops on the Other
chimpson product like the six six.
Speaker 9: Kid he's going to.
Speaker 4: Serve, Okay So dean.
Speaker 2: RECIRK i don't know If i've the first to say,
it but he's GOT nba potential and my guess is
if he comes, in he's going to not only is
he going to play right, away at some, POINT i
think he's going to be in the starting. Lineup terrific,
athlete terrific, shooter you, know really hardened on THE au.
Speaker 4: Circuit he's, he's he's really he's.
Speaker 2: A real Gut, so you, KNOW i, definitely.
Speaker 4: You, know keep an eye on.
Speaker 2: HIM i Think Bruce branch is a top five pick
in the twenty twenty SEVEN nba, draft you, know.
Speaker 5: Which is pretty in because Because bruce, reclassified he should
be he should be a part of.
Speaker 10: The two thousand did h you classify to?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 9: Yeah pretty?
Speaker 4: Insane that's.
Speaker 9: Crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah Bruce branch is terrific and and he's a
true two way. Guy can handle the, ball can can
really get it done, offensively and you, know he's he's terrific.
Defensively six six sixty. Seven will be interested to see
what kind of impact that he has uh next year as.
Well BUT i, mean he's he's gonna you, know the
new pipeline that's started in terms of lottery picks coming
to B, yu he's certainly going to to to to retain.
IT i, think you, know it'll be interesting to see
what happens With rob does he stay or you, know
does does he does he?
Speaker 4: GO i don't know what.
Speaker 9: He said unless he goes.
Speaker 5: Professional so it's either there's professional or but he'd be
a second round.
Speaker 10: Pick, yeah he's second round Like. Richie you, know his
speculation is that he's. Staying he just released a what
is A Coasta vita?
Speaker 9: Ad, yeah he's doing some nil.
Speaker 5: STUFF i, mean you, know THE nba doesn't have many
Like Tim hardaway's, anymore right THAT i grew up.
Speaker 2: With so the thing is interesting Will rob because at
the beginning of the, season you, KNOW i THOUGHT i was,
like you, know no way this kid has a chance
to play in THE. Nba and then you KNOW i
saw him in a little bit of a futured role.
Speaker 5: And he.
Speaker 2: You, know he gets to the basket off the dribble
at AN nba. Level so that skill alone is going
to possibly give him a. Chance but as a small,
guard there are a couple of things that he's gotta.
Do he's gotta get, way way way better, defensively he's
got to get way better and he's going to have
to shoot the ball a lot better than he has
up to this point in his. Career you, Know SO
i think that he needs to come back and he
needs to prove that he can run a. Team you,
know he's proven that he can, score and he's proven
that he can can can play. Offense but he THE,
nba like you, said you, know with small, guards you,
know they're not Many Tree, Young's they're not Many darius A.
Cuffs you, know if you're a small guard Like, Rob
you're gonna have to, prove you, know that you can
run a, team that you can, defend that you can
make shots when you get when you get open. Looks you.
Know SO i Think rob will be best served coming
back and kind of be in the hub of next
YEAR'S byu team BECAUSE i think that that's what would
happen him And. Bruce but if you, KNOW i think
there's a lot to be done with the, roster BUT
i think the the potential is there for them to,
have you, know a.
Speaker 4: Top, ten top fifteen type season next. Year, yeah.
Speaker 5: Eight cuff is like six, two six, three Though rob
writ's like five, eleven maybe five eleven and a.
Speaker 4: Half, YEAH i WALKED i walked by him IN aj.
Speaker 2: Last saturday at The Delta, center and, Yeah rob's not six.
Speaker 5: Feet list that's What i'm, SAYING I i MEAN i see.
HIM i, mean, LOOK i grew up in you, Know Tim,
Hardaway Kevin, Johnson, ERA Bj, armstrong you know these you,
know undersized point.
Speaker 9: GUARDS i just no one's getting them.
Speaker 5: Them no one wants him anymore, there you, Know so
he's got to be he's going to improve his defense as. Well,
right he's got to utilize that fast, twitched, mongoose honey
badger like mentality in order to get, there right to THE.
Speaker 2: Nba, well so you, know let's let's let's put let's
let's Highlight Jose. Alvarado why has he been able to
stay in THE?
Speaker 4: Nba and my opinion is that he's been able to
stay in THE nba for like two.
Speaker 2: Reasons he's been able to, defend stay in front of,
guys not be not not be taking advantage of, defensively
and he makes open. Shots you, know he's he's not
as he's not nearly as ball in hand as you
know a five foot eleven six foot guy would would.
Suggest you, know he plays off the ball a, lot
but when he gets an open, shot that shots going.
Speaker 4: In and when.
Speaker 2: He's on the floor and he's defending a guy he's
making life difficult for the guy that he's, defending and
that's kind of what you have to be at that
stots in THE nba.
Speaker 5: Rapid fire recuak who wins the N caa. Tournament who's
the champion this?
Speaker 4: Year is he going to be The Michigan arizona though.
Speaker 2: At this POINT i can't see anybody other than than
those two.
Speaker 5: WINNING i, know Kay why wants to build a pro
pipeline and he wants to pro, analytics pro. SCIMAT i
saw too MUCH ISO bo fans were complaining about. It
does he need to change it up a little bit,
schematically offensively and defensively in order to win games at
the clegiate.
Speaker 2: LEVEL i think it has to be a balance BECAUSE
i think if you, keep if you recruit Aj demansas
of the world and The Bruce branches of the, world
and even The Rob right of the, world you're doing
it with the promise to those guys to showcase those.
Guys so in that, sense you, know there's gotta be some.
Isolation but in the but in the other, sense you,
KNOW i think the ball could have moved this year
a little bit more than it, Did AND i actually
don't put that on a J i'll put that on rob.
Speaker 5: Right Tony, jones the most sneaky, athletic deceptively, quick place
faster than he. Looks HIGH iq journalist in the game
as the game first in firstut always brings his hard
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Speaker 10: Gentlemen If tony been playing in the media, GAME i
wouldn't have won, it he.
Speaker 9: Wanted oh is that right To?
Speaker 10: Tony and you know, how you know how my ego.
Is i'm willing to like.
Speaker 5: Call i'm super, crafty, SHIFTY i got good, Feet i'm
always under. Control. Tony you better watch out for me. Too,
MAN i bring my hard, hat won't with? Me, No,
MAN i hit too many see too many injuries in
my real job THAT i go out there and play
hoop with.
Speaker 2: People, LISZTEN i actually hooped yesterday AT uh In New,
jersey And uh it was a good day.
Speaker 9: For the worst Of Jose.
Speaker 10: Alvarado YES i could, Shoot.
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