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Speaker 2: Actually it looks like everybody is ready to go. Everybody
is ready to go. Welcome to the longest running independent
ACC podcast in the United States. This is Matthew, and
we have a great return guest tonight. This is our
third time return guest here. We're probably one of the
few podcasts, at least ACC podcasts that can say this.
Adam Harper is with us. He is an SMU fan.
He's lived in the Dallas Fort Worth area's entire life.
He grew up attending just about every Southern Methodist University
sporting event. He currently covers SMU men's and women's basketball
as an intern for on the Pony Express. That's SMU's
on three platform. And if I'm not mistaken, Bill m
Embody is one of the major players over there on
that show. He follows us here at All Sports dACC here,
so we know about his work very well and we
follow him well. He's also currently a student I'm talking
about adding Harper here at SMU and is halfway through
his senior year. So welcome tonight, Adam. We really appreciate
you spending your Sunday evening with us.
Speaker 3: Tell us about yourself and oh, I think we lost
him there. Well, what's up, guys.
Speaker 4: Uh, my name is Adam and uh kind of Matthew
kind of already covered basically every Oh Matthew's back, don't
come back.
Speaker 2: Matt Sorry, anything that you cover at ODD three, that
you've been writing at any special features. I'm sorry, I
got discussed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So.
Speaker 4: Basically some Bill is having me do some live updates
kind of the thing that and then it was just
kind of seeing the game from a different perspective, which
he's been. He's been great to really facilitate all the
Butler game where SMU just squeaked out a win at
home against Butler, which was, which was super great to see.
But oh yeah, thank I mean thank god that we
won that game. Seriously, it was a it was a
it was right down a little wire. But we I
think we might have a good basketball team this year.
We'll we'll definitely see as we go into a CC play.
But yeah, you basically covered everything, Matthew. I'm a I'm
a current SMU student. I'm have with through my senior year.
I I'm a pruna handler, which basically means that I
run SMU's mascot across our field as well, and basically I.
Speaker 3: Just basically do everything that I can to be involved in.
Speaker 4: All aspects of sports, specifically SMU, just because I love
it so much.
Speaker 3: But yeah, great intro.
Speaker 2: So I just as quickly, I mean, do you would
you find yourself possibly working or enjoying working in the
athletic department there at SGMU when it's all said and done.
Speaker 3: Is that something you would consider? I mean, I would
probably consider it. The question is if they would consider me.
Speaker 4: Obviously, my my degree is applied physiology and health management,
so basically meaning that I want to do like physical
therapy or something like that.
Speaker 3: If I worked in the athletic department.
Speaker 4: It would probably either be as a physical trainer or
doing something like sports media and like covering it full time.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I love asking you so much.
Speaker 4: Shoot, I might as well try to get a job
there and see what happens.
Speaker 2: You know, absolutely absolutely, I think I like your idea
being a sport physiology because it's a you know, it's
the what do you call it? It's it's a transferable
skill in this economy. I guess, right, you know, so
that maybe that that may be what you're that maybe
what you're looking for.
Speaker 3: Jeff, you are no. Hold it, it's me. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: We usually alternate alternate this year, and we sometimes have
go back and forth and I'm covering the next topic. Uh,
disappointing ACC football teams. There may be if you can,
and it's south there, but which ACC football team was
the most disappointing team in week twelve? And then go
on the flip side, which ACC team was the most
most impressive?
Speaker 4: I mean, you you hit the nail on the head.
There's about twelve teams that I can say are disappointing.
I mean it's from an SMU perspective, man, we were
so excited to have Louisville come in next week and
just have a ranked team. I mean, they're playing like
they're playing a very bad Clemson team at home. And
I watched that entire game on Friday night and I
was just so so disappointed in the way that Louisville
played that game. What was it They missed three field
goals and one extra point to lose that game.
Speaker 3: Just absolutely tragic.
Speaker 4: And like other disappointing teams, I mean, Syracuse hasn't looked great.
Boston College blew that eleven point lead to Georgia Tech,
and obviously we can't expect much from Boston College anymore,
but like eleven point lead, it would have been great
for the Mustangs if Georgia Tech had been knocked out
of the ACC Championship playoff or ACC Championship race. But
I guess good news to Yellows Jacket fans that they're
still in it. But I mean, Boston College and Louisville
have got.
Speaker 3: To be the most disappointing too.
Speaker 1: And now, Adam, who is your most impressive team? Somebody
had to shown through from the ACC side that impressed you.
I know, I'm looking at Virginia. I was very impressed
by them what they did going into Duke. You know,
so many teams failing to, like you said, Louisville great example,
you know, failing to you know, really take control of
their destiny. Georgia Tech kind of playing with their food
for three and a half quarters against BC before Haines
King took over. You know, Pittsburgh kind of just completely
no showing against Notre Dame in a huge game. But
Virginia they impressed me.
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, Virginia.
Speaker 4: I mean Sharlan Morris, he's an absolute warrior coming back
from a concussion protocol.
Speaker 3: Funny funny fact.
Speaker 4: I went to school in Dallas and went to Highland
Park High School and Chandler Morris was the quarterback at
Highland Park High School and he won us stood two
state championships in my time at HP. So I can't
say a really bad thing about Chandler Morris unless he
diaces us up in the ACC Championship game.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they looked great on the road at Duke.
Speaker 4: They earned, they earned whatever spot the College Football Playoff
puts them in. And Miami, you know, Miami kind of
picking a different team than you. I mean, we beat them,
what was it two weeks ago and everyone thought, oh,
this is just going to be another November for Mario
Crystobal and they're just going to fall off the rails again.
And they really, I mean, they didn't play a great team.
Speaker 3: Did they.
Speaker 4: But they did what they had to do. They won
a big the game very very convincingly, and I think
that Miami's i mean, Miami's back.
Speaker 3: In the hunt.
Speaker 4: They're They're looking like the team that everyone knew that
they were. So that's that's very exciting to see them
kind of get back on the wagon after they fell
off against US at home, which was quite possibly the
most amazing and surreal experience that I've had as a
college football fan, you know, just rushing Matt Field and
tearing down the goalpost and all the things that comes
with a top ten upset after you get beat the
week before by wake Forest.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Miami they look they look legit again.
Speaker 4: And the a SEC needs a team that looks legit
right now, that's for sure?
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, Adam, Let's let's look ahead to next week. Then,
which ACC football game are you looking forward to the
most in Week thirteen?
Speaker 4: I mean, who, I mean, obviously, you gotta you gotta
throw the SMU game in there. I think that is
the second or maybe third best ACC game. Probably would
have been a lot better if Louisville had hung on.
But I'm looking at obviously, I'm looking at Pitt Georgia Tech.
If Georgia Tech loses that game against a good PIT team,
I know, I know they didn't look great against Notre Dame,
but that that Pit team is still very, very good.
If if Georgia Tech loses that game, and it'll be
a good one lines at two and a half right
now at Georgia Tech, then that I'm really looking forward
to watching that entirety of that game six pm at ESPN.
And you know, Kyl Stanford, the game is back. That
game always gets super ugly. I love Cal's quarterback, I
love the way that they're they're gonna look great against Stanford.
But Stanford always comes to play for those games. I
think the average ticket price is like one hundred and
fifty dollars, and that's it's really the only thing that
Stanford has to play for anymore.
Speaker 3: And I think that they're really gonna just give it.
Speaker 4: They're all at home against a really good Cal team.
Speaker 3: I think Hell is super.
Speaker 4: Underrated this year, I think, I mean, the line's at
two and a half right now, but I really think
that they'll blow just a rowdy Stanford team out. But
you know, that game is always exciting to watch. So
it's got to be Cal Stanford and it's got to
be Pitt Georgia Tech. Are the two games I'm watching
besides the Louisville game. Obviously, sorry Louisville SMU game.
Speaker 1: All right, very good there, Adam. Which ACC team could
be upset alert in week thirteen if they're looking ahead
to a game on their schedule or otherwise just sleepwalking
on the field.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, first thing I'm thinking, I think Florida
State is. I don't think they're in a good spot
going in to NC State on a Friday night. I mean,
it's always rowdy in Carter Finley Stadium. FIC's favored right now,
but they've looked pretty decent in the past few weeks.
But genuinely, I do not see that NC State team
losing that night game with that quality of our brand
coming into town. I think another, I mean another team
on upset alert. You know, Duke North Carolina. That game
big as rivalry is Cal Stanford.
Speaker 3: Is on the East Coast. I mean you and C.
Speaker 4: I think they're down like a touchdown. I think they're not.
They're really no one's thinking that that's gonna be a
good game for them. But it's at U and C
and they also don't have anything to play for, and
I think they're just gonna throw every single thing that
they have at this duke team that Virginia just blew out.
And we'll see if Bill Belichick can actually do something
as a coach at North Carolina. But those are my
two upsets right now. I'm picking I'm picking North Carolina
and I'm picking n C State to win outright in
those those two games, both at home, both not favored
by about a touchdown, and both games are super big
for the programs, and I think that they can.
Speaker 3: I think they can get it done, you know, all.
Speaker 1: Right, I like I like it there, Adam, Yeah, you're right.
I mean, crazy things happen in Raleigh with n C State,
and they've knocked off Florida State there, you know, a
number of times. And so you know, Florid State is
playing playing a little bit better, but you know that
they cannot overlook n C State for sure. And then
at everything that you said about uh duke in North Carolina.
As we go national here and we'll step out of
the a C for a bit, Which National, FBS or
FCS game are you looking forward to the most in
week thirteen? And we're wide open with this question. This
can be a power for G five. You can even
have an FCS matchup and then give us the winner
of that.
Speaker 3: Game, right Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean one game that I'm looking at right now
out of the Big twelve is BYU traveling on the
road to Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: I mean it's a seven pm game.
Speaker 4: Yep, absolutely on that top top twelve BYU team. I
mean they, I mean Cincinnati is good. They just got
knocked out of the Top twenty five. But I don't
think you can overlook that team just straight up. And
I think that's going to be a huge test for BYU,
their last big test in the Big twelve before they
inevitably play Texas Tech again in the championship. But that
game's been big, and unfortunately there's not really a ton
of Big SEC games this week. I was checking the schedule.
I mean Alabama plays Eastern Illinois, I mean Georgia plays Charlotte,
So I mean those Texas A and M plays Stanford
are Sanford, sorry not Stanford. So none of those games
they get their annual bye weeks, because of course they do,
they're the SEC. But one game out of the SCS
that I'm looking at is Montana State versus Montana. I'm
very excited for that game. That's two very very good
FCS teams that are playing, and obviously Montana State Montana
that's a big rivalry and they kind of just it's rivalry.
They throw everything at each other. So that's going to
be a super super entertaining one to watch. And you know,
I'm an SMU fan. I need to watch TCU lose,
so any opportunity that I can to watch the horn
Frogs and their head coach, Sonny Dykes get blown out,
I'm gonna do that. And they travel on the road
to a good Houston team that is ranked twenty fifth
and the eight people, and I just hope that Houston.
My dad's a he's a Houston fan, he went there,
so I'm probably gonna watch that game with him. That
so oh uh, I mean, I think just Montana just
wins that game very easily. TCU on the n i've's
got that. But I think b YU traveling to Cincinnati
to you, but it looks good. Oh, I think that
Cincinnati can really shoot off some fires and actually win
that game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and that's a game that you know,
if you if you're an at large team, a team
like Miami, you really want to see Cincinnati knockoff. You know,
we're looking at for at large college playoff bid, you know, anywhere,
rank from twelve to twenty, because that really puts Oklahoma
in a great position where a third loss would have
probably knocked them out. B O I U still very
much in the picture, and if they were to lose
to Cincinnati, it would really put a dent in their resume.
So that that one's got big national implications there, Okay, Adam.
Our next segment is our open mic. We have two
open mic segments in this one, but in our first
open mic, it's it's for our guests only, what is
on your mind right now? It could be anything you know,
SMU exclusive, you can talk about the ACC, you can
go national, whatever's on your mind.
Speaker 4: Right I think the first time that I joined this
podcast two years ago was the summer before we joined
the ACC, and I basically just talked about how thankful
SMU and personally I was that we got the opportunity
to join. Don't worry, I'm not even wavering in that commitment.
The ACC has given us everything and we're completely indebted
to them. And one thing that I'm looking forward to
is basketball. But before we get to that basketball season,
we got to talk a little bit about football. And
I saw a post today and after the AP pole
went out, and it was comparing seven in Missouri versus
seven and three Arizona State versus seven and three SMU
versus seven and three Tennessee, And it was talking about
the quality of wins and the quality of losses and everything.
And obviously some people don't think that being ranked in
the Week twelve AP pole matters. They don't think that
it's really important, and they're like, why are you even
making the argument for a team like SMU to be
ranked over a team like Missouri.
Speaker 3: Well, it matters. It matters a lot.
Speaker 4: And the only reason why it matters is because for
quality in the schedule, which is something that the ACC
desperately needs right now.
Speaker 3: You need the teams that pull off the upsets like.
Speaker 4: SMU beating Miami to be able to say, look that team,
that team's a top twenty five team, and I feel
like giving the nod even Arizona State. I mean they
beat Texas Tech. Like Texas Tech, they're a dark horse
for the national championship. I mean they look great, and
having a team like Arizona State, having a team like
SMU just not be anywhere close to the top or
not be in the top twenty five when you give
the nods to teams like.
Speaker 3: Missouri, I mean Missouri.
Speaker 4: Hasn't beaten a team over five hundred, they haven't beaten
a bowl eligible team this entire year. And then I
think Tennessee's best win is at home against Mississippi State.
Correct me if I'm wrong on that, But genuinely, seeing
the bias that the SEC is getting over the ACC,
over the even Big ten, even Big twelve is very disheartening.
But obviously I'm an SMU fan, I have to take
this with a grain of salt because if we were
in the AAC right now, we wouldn't be ranked, especially
as a seven and three team. I mean, I think
number twenty two. And the newest a people is the
un t mean Green, which good for them and they're
nine and one. I mean they deserve to be higher
than a Tennessee team who's lost to every team that
has a pulse that they've played. But that's kind of
it from like an ACC ap pole perspective. One thing
I am excited for, man, I am so excited for
SMU basketball because the ACC looks like it is absolutely back.
And obviously we've we've gotten some losses here and there
Wake Forest, but they went on the road and they
took a top six Michigan team to overtime and Florida State,
even Florida State plays Florida and Florida State. I think
they're I don't know where they're picked to finish in
the ACC. They're not picked high. They may be picked last,
and they take a top ten Florida team absolutely all
the way to the wire and lose by like two
or four.
Speaker 3: NC State looks great.
Speaker 4: Virginia Tech has a great star that's probably gonna be
a lottery pick, like guaranteed Duke Cameron Booser. He always
looks great. SMU looks great. We put a ton of
money into our roster. We're really seeing the benefits from it.
I mean, we're four and oh right now, and it
doesn't look like we're gonna lose a game until December,
basing how our schedule is kind of shaped up.
Speaker 3: I mean, other teams look great.
Speaker 4: North Carolina beats Kansas, that's fantastic result for the agency.
The only team that doesn't look great is Boston College.
And I will take any opportunity to dog on Boston
College because of the Fenway Bowl that they beat us
in two and a half years ago.
Speaker 3: But every single team besides that looks amazing.
Speaker 4: And a SEC basketball is back, and we're going to
establish the fact that we are the best basketball conference
in the nation.
Speaker 3: The Big twelve is going to give us a run
for our money.
Speaker 4: But I mean last year the ACC SEC Tournament or
the Challenge or whatever it was called, it was a disaster,
and I think the a SEC won two games Clemson
one to one and Duke obviously won. But this year, look,
I mean SMU plays Vandy, look for look for games
like that to actually go the ACC's way. Look for
the team that plays NC State. I don't know it
off the top of my head, look for that to
go the ACC's way. I genuinely think that the AC
is back, especially as a basketball conference and kind of
just like covering the other sports really quickly. I mean
the ACC and soccer. Obviously, I have to touch on
men's soccer. SMU wins their first ever ACC trophy, a
SC Championship trophy today and Carrie just playing a fantastic
Virginia team, and sim is red hot right now. We're
gonna be a top maybe a top two seed in
the entire tournament. And we beat a good Virginia team,
We beat a fantastic Stanford team, handed them their first
loss at home the entire season. And ACC soccer looks great,
and ACC volleyball looks great, and ACC basketball looks great,
and I think all of these things are finally coming
together for the ACC besides football. And I think that
if we can just sneak in Miami into that playoff spot,
which I think they deserve, and get an ACC winner,
whether it be Georgia Tech, whether it hopefully be SMU,
whether it be Virginia, we and just sneak in that
player show that the a SEC is still competitive in football,
while showcasing that we're dominant in basketball, volleyball, soccer, all
of these other important things. I mean, I think sky's
the limit, and we're really trending up just as an
entire conference right now, just as SMU is kind of
trending up as a organization.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of my that's whole, my whole spiel.
That's my open microphone.
Speaker 1: That was That was awesome, Adam. All Right, Matthew, I'm
gonna turn it over to you for our last segment
here in the podcast. All right, Matthew, can you hear it?
Speaker 3: I think Matthew's phone are might be.
Speaker 1: I'm Mary, So all right, this is our last open
mic segment, and yeah, let me. I want to start
this one off, Adam, and then we'll go to you
and hopefully we'll have Matthew back on after that. Uh.
You know what you said about ACC basketball this year,
I mean, I'm I'm in complete agreement with Uh. This
is this is definitely looking like a rebound year for
the for the conference.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, Duke's already knocked off Texas. North Carolina beat
Kansas and looked really good doing it. You know, they're
gonna have to play through the tremble injury until he's back.
Louisville looked fantastic against Kentucky. I mean that was that
was a Kentucky team.
Speaker 3: Mini.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can hear you now, Matt and something.
Speaker 2: It's a great open Ada. I wanted to make sure
that's what I kept saying. I kept breaching here.
Speaker 1: Excellent job, all right, definitely. You know, those are the
three big non conference wins so far for the a
c C. And then, like you've already mentioned, Adam s
m U, you know, beating Butler today, that's gonna that's
gonna be at least a Q two win, you know,
over an opponent like Butler. Virginia Tech with the great
you know, Freshman has a win over Providence, and and
you have other teams like NC State in Virginia that
look good early too. But there's a little bit of
you know, there's some there's there's a little bit of
an undercurrent that's making me nervous out there. And I
think that that if the a c C, some of
the other teams you know, aren't able to start putting,
you know, wus together. They've been really competitive, you know,
like you said, Wake Forest, I mean they had a
great opportunity to beat Michigan and they played so well
for like thirty six minutes and then you know, just
what we've seen over the last several years. You know
with Wake Forest, They're they're pretty, they're they're good enough
just to miss the NCAA Tournament each year. And if
they could have got that win over Michigan, I mean,
it really could have kind of galvanized their their season.
And they just collapsed, you know, down the stretch. And
and you have that game you had Florida State had
an opportunity to win at Florida, couldn't close the deal.
Georgia Tech was down at Georgia and and you know,
got up I think it was eight or nine in
the second half and just couldn't hang on. And and
the the close losses they just keep adding, they keep
adding up for the for the middle to the bottom
tier of the a C see and at some point
they're gonna have to start turning you know, you don't
have to win every game, that's that's obvious, but they're
gonna have to start turning some of these close losses
into wu's at least for some of the.
Speaker 2: Whole lot of second I will say this, you avoid
Georgia Tech avoided the horrifically bad loss that would have
drove the numbers down for every team, And I know
what you're I know, I know what you know. I'm
talking about, Jeff. They did they found a way to
beat UMBs. They did not drag conference. So that's I mean,
that's a little better, right, I mean that that hasn't
happened yet.
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to take the victories where you can.
And you know you're not gonna have the ACC being
a four or five big lead, but if there's anything
that could could limit it, you know, to getting into
the eight to nine bid, and is the biddle and
bottom tier of the league, you know, has to cash
in on some of these close games or or you know,
you're definitely better than you were last year, but you're
not going to be completely where you want to be
until you start winning some of those games. But look,
like you said, Matthew, you totally agree. You know, the
ACC as a whole has done a good job of
avoting some of those you know.
Speaker 3: Horrendous idees.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to get that three fifty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you're going to have like a
Louisville of Kenny Payne, you know, with a god, you know,
with a with a ken palm ranking of like three
hundred and twenty, and you know, when you lose to them,
it's basically like losing twice. You know, I think that's
that's definitely not gonna happen. So it's for sure a
CC is far better position than they have been in
three or four years. But I would definitely want to see,
you know, you got us cash in on some of
these non conference games. You know, Clemson going to Georgetown.
Nothing no shame in losing to Georgetown, not at all
on the road, but you were in that game and
they couldn't they couldn't you know, close that one out either.
Notre Dame lost by a point. Ohio State today. I mean,
there's there's a bunch of you know, P four Power
Conference losses that if you would have just got one
or two of them, you know, you're really you're feeling
great about the conference. But you know, no question, it's better.
There's there's gonna be a really strong upper echelon of
the league. There's gonna it's not gonna struggle for four
bids or anything like five bids. It's better. But we
want to see the a c C like be be
vintaged and they got to close out a couple of
these non conference games. Still plenty of time, It's only
mid November, but man, if they could have just closed
out a couple of these games, especially they had Michigan.
Speaker 2: I think Adam is right though, that if you get
that showing in the A C C SEC big you
know chance challenge, that that that gives you an opportunity,
I think, to redeem yourself, redeem yourself. And I'll be
and I'm more probably more interested in seeing how the
middle of the you know, the middle of the conference
does in that challenge, because we know, you know, the
top breakers on the conference they're going to do pretty good.
But I want to see how the middle of the
conference can do, a different middle conference can do. For example,
Virginia Tech has a chance is going on the road.
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going on the road to South Carolina again. They just
played South Carolina in a holiday challenge in South Carolina.
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Cocks Pavilion right down there, and I'll be interested to
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tech are going to be substantially better at him AND
i AND, I and you, know you can see that
with the way That Ryan odom retooled at roster In,
charlesville AND i would argue the same thing for the
roster At Virginia. Tech you, KNOW i went down this
week to Watch Virginia tech Play Saint. Joe's i'm a
Technic tech, alum, right AND i went down this. Week On,
WEDNESDAY i was on Furlough adam for like forty. Days
can you believe That i'm a federal, employee, Right SO
i went down for the hell of, it down TO i.
WOULD i spent a week In blacksburg this, week AND
i Watched Virginia tech Play Saint. Joe's and they they
Play adam like a hockey team five, out and it's
fun to. Watch they can play ninety feet of hell
if they have. To if you remember maybe maybe you'd
may not Remember Nolan richardson's teams right From, arkansas but
you probably read about it where they played ninety feet of.
Hell they can do that if they have, to and
they're fun to, watch and IT'S i, mean it's okay
And i'll say this, RIGHT i, Mean Nicolas ovolis is
really everything that everybody has. Advertised he's you, know he's six,' nine,
two fifteen he can play. Three positions he was only
one ninety five when he Came To. Pitt tech he's
already put on. Twenty pounds if he were to put
on ten ten or, twenty more, ten more he'd Be.
Like luca if he put on, twenty more he'd Be Like.
Speaker 3: Magic johnson that's some high praise. Right, there well he
you know.
Speaker 2: Six', nine you know if you can get two hundred
thirty five pounds on a, six nine, guy you know
you're you're and playing point guard and playing shooting guard and.
Playing small forward it's. Kind OF ridiculous like i feel
like it's kind of he's gonna and he's, extremely fundamentally
sound and it feels like like you see him pass,
AND you're like i didn't know the ball, was, going
there right he has he has he has. Such good
eyesight but The Thing, Is Mike young mike young brought
in retooled, that roster completely and so you know it's those,
ARE you know I think the commonwealth's teams are teams
that you could you could, See, Improved drastically jeff jeff
maybe has the same has the SAME take as i Do.
About wag forest they remind. ME of this i Feel
Like it's seth greenberg, all over again right when He Was.
At VIRGIE attack and i would like To see wake
forest win a few, of these games these these these
games that, they're ahead, in you know so they can get,
that big victory but you never but. You NEVER know
and i think you brought up a Good Point about.
FLORIDA state earlier i feel like they look like they're
going to be MUCH better.
Speaker 3: Than.
Speaker 2: I thought now i did not, get a chance and maybe.
YOU guys did i did not get a Chance to
See miami's, playing FLORIDA tonight and i did not get
a chance to see what that score.
Speaker 3: IS looking like i actually am watching it right now.
Speaker 4: As we speak miami is, down, by ten okay so
thirty with, seventeen Minutes left and miami just had a three, As.
Speaker 2: We speak so that'll be interesting to see how. That
turns out what, Do, You, GOT jeff no i was just.
Speaker 1: Going to, Agree. WITH you, matthew i mean if the
teams that are picked like ten or lower. In the,
PRESEASON you Know I think virginia tech is definitely one that.
CAN exceed expectations I think wake forest is someone, WHO'S
talented enough i mean. Player for, player you know they
were right there with The top, ten michigan team but
Then They got, steve forbes again who just can't seem
to find a way to get his team to. Close
out games But if wake forest were to ever play
to the level of talent that, they actually, have you
know they could be a. Dark HORSE pick and, i
YOU know when I Was watching Florida, state against florida
they really spread THE floor and i mean they Really
they had florida chasing them, the entire game, and you
know when they had, that thing flowing They really gave
florida a. Lot of trouble so if you're looking for
THE teams that i think, ten on down you know
that could could sneak into the top. Five or, Six
you know I'm Looking, At Virginia, tech florida State. And Wake,
forest If Forbes if steve forbes could ever find a
way to coach his teams to their talent level and,
JUST stop, cracking i mean you know. It's gonna happen
they're gonna be on the, bubble all year The knock
off duke and then lose three games in a row
because that's just.
Speaker 2: What they do they're GONNA lose a bc or something.
Speaker 1: Like, That, exactly.
Speaker 4: So Jeff are you i'm getting the semblance That You're a?
Wake forest fan Are You a? Wake forest fan or
WHO'S your? YOUR acc team.
Speaker 1: I Mean it's Georgia. TECH and CLEMSON i Mean, i think,
clemson you know they PICKED seventh and i think they're about.
There Right now brad burnell is really teep retooled that team.
Through the portal they're gonna be. A physical team i
think their front line is gonna gonna be. Pretty darn good,
but you know like You, saw against georgetown they had
not seen like on the ball pressure at, from from,
anyone you know in their opening part, of the schedule
and their guards just had a lot of difficulty, with
you Know the Way georgetown was. Georgetown was playing so
their their guard play has to has to be better over.
The long haul but, if they can if they, can improve,
there you know they're they're a team that can can be.
A Tournament, team georgia tech they've kind of been all.
Over the place early, in the, season you know they
get taken to overtime By You Know maryland eastern shore
look Horrible, struggle with Southeast. You know louisiana there are
two by games very nearly. Could have lost but then
they Go onto Into georgia in athens and play a
five point lame and score. Eighty seven points, so you,
know with them it's going to really depend on, their
GUARDS too because i think their front Line with nongo
and And the freshman sila is going to. Be pretty stout,
but you know do they have the guard play to
to really take THEM THROUGH THE a. C c season
so that that's My Take on Georgia tech and clemson
here in the early part. Of, the year jeff what
did You?
Speaker 2: Think of georgetown do you think? They have it do
you think this is the best team You've seen in
georgetown in? A DAY acade because, i, think that oh.
Speaker 1: They're they're legitimate they're they're. A LEGITIMATE team and i
love the way they applied defensive pressure. WITH their guards
i don't know how many Turnovers, they forced clemson but
it seemed like they probably. FORCED about twenty i don't
know what that remember, the ACTUAL number but i mean
the way they extended, that that, defense you know you're
gonna have a hard time consistently getting to the rim
off of those guards Unless you're like yukon or Something In.
The big east they're, GONNA you KNOW i don't i don't.
Think they, can you know they're gonna be Quite there
with yukon or. Anything like that, but you know finishing
anywhere from, Two, to, Five uh yeah georgetown's gonna.
Speaker 4: BE a.
Speaker 2: PROBLEM i, THINK i know I look AT georgetown and
i feel like it's a. TOP three finish i don't
think they can Be Better than Saint, john's OR yukon but,
i feel, LIKE you know I feel like i feel
like three is a. Legit, really legitimate.
Speaker 1: Yeah that that's. A good placement i kind of it's
kind of slipped My Mind about saint john's up should be.
Pretty SOLID too but i don't see Any, Reason, why georgia,
georgetown you know can't compete for those number three. Number
four spot it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: An exciting year it's gonna be. An exciting year.
Speaker 4: I'm very, excited for basketball ESPECIALLY the, LIKE i mean
i feel like the The things that i'm hearing around
SMU's basketball team this year and just the quality that
we have is so much better than what we. Had
last year and it's just it's mimicked the WAY that
the acc. IS just, reloaded i Mean we get i've
been to every single basketball game and it's like it
is literally. Night and day it is so BEAUTIFUL to
see smu basketball actually playing with top. TIER talent, again
i mean like the first THE first guy i, COULD
think of I Mean.
Speaker 3: From wake forest probably.
Speaker 4: They, Need Him, actually boopy miller he's still in college and.
He is amazing he's He's gonna be he's GONNA be
a sec first, team. Basketball player guaranteed you can pencil it.
In right now, you can quote you, can quote this
you can send it. To me afterwards just lock him
IN for the. Acc first. Team he's amazing he had
twenty three points and Twelve. Assists Against butler he's. He's
simply incredible and then we have the highest, points per
game highest scorer in the nation who Came to The Hilltop,
From Jacksonville state, jaron pierre junior and He WAS The
conference usa Player. Of the year we stole HIM from
shoot i think it was a team We were battling,
kentucky for him and we just Stole, him in ole
miss and we just stole him right from.
Speaker 3: Under their noses and he's he's.
Speaker 4: Incredible as well he had Nineteen. Points against BUTLER so
the acc is, back in basketball. Just straight up and
THE fact that i Have like Seen i've seen virginia score.
ONE hundred points i NEVER thought that i would ever,
see THAT ever but i Just saw a virginia team score.
One hundred points and like, You, SAID earlier, matthew I
mean the collingwell teams need, to BE good and i
think that they're making that step, to be good especially
with the hires that they've made and. Things LIKE that,
and i mean we HAVEN'T Talked, about nc state we
Haven't talked about.
Speaker 3: Louisville that much, but like basketball basketball.
Speaker 4: Is ramping UP and as, I say this miami cuts
the lead To, three against florida so they're. Making A
comeback jay lucas is looking like a. Great hire there they're.
Three and zero they were. TERRIBLE last year i mean
they were like a quad FOUR win for smu late.
Speaker 3: In the season.
Speaker 4: It was awful SAME with Like i think Virginia was
a quad three n win. On the road, so those
teams the fact that we actually have quality back in
the conference and there's Opportunities to win quad one games,
almost every week there's an there will be an opportunity
to win a quad one GAME in the acc as,
it Should be as god planned, it to be and
it's not gonna have to be due coming into town
to get a.
Speaker 3: Quad one win it's.
Speaker 4: Gonna be a random game on The Road at virginia
tech that can really.
Speaker 3: Bolster this conference and we're gonna.
Speaker 4: We were great.
Speaker 3: I'M excited basket i love. Basketball so much it's. GONNA
be great, A plus.
Speaker 2: Man a plus, On, that note adam thank you so
much For Joining THE allsports. Discussion acc podcast loved having.
You come on it was fun having you come on
here during during the during the middle of the, season
or football you're usually, here the preview and we'd love
to have you come on. During basketball season.
Speaker 3: Let's do it, let's talk, basketball.
Speaker 2: All right take care of have, a. Great week, guys.
Speaker 3: All right you'll have a. Great week too