1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on. Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,480 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,719 my daily show prep with all of the links, become 6 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:22,359 a patron, go to dpeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,920 hit the subscribe button. Get every episode for free right 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,320 to your smartphone or tablet, And again, thank you so 9 00:00:27,399 --> 00:00:29,960 much for your support. So at the end of the 10 00:00:30,039 --> 00:00:34,079 last hour, John called in. We had a brief discussion. 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,560 I just didn't have enough time to go over everything 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,439 with him. But John had called and we spoke yesterday 13 00:00:42,439 --> 00:00:45,719 as well, and John works in the construction industry, and 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,439 yesterday he was making the point that all of these 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,600 job sites now have no workers and you know, all 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,640 of these illegal aliens that have been on the job 17 00:00:55,719 --> 00:00:58,840 sites that you know, Americans won't do these jobs, and 18 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,920 so therefore no one of this stuff is going to 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,600 get built and this is going to be terrible for 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,200 the economy and all of this. And then today John's 21 00:01:05,239 --> 00:01:10,040 follow up was seeking he said clarification on my position 22 00:01:10,359 --> 00:01:14,120 that what just deport all illegal aliens and My response 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:20,079 is that is the law, and you are either for 24 00:01:20,159 --> 00:01:24,879 the enforcement of the law or you're going to say 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:31,959 we shall reward you for breaking the law. Right, those 26 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,439 are the options on the table. Now. John suggests that 27 00:01:35,719 --> 00:01:41,000 we write, you know, immigration, comprehensive immigration reform. And to 28 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,879 that point, here's a text that comes in from one 29 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,680 of our trolls on the text line, amazing, how quickly 30 00:01:47,719 --> 00:01:53,120 and conveniently you forget the GOP blocked bipartisan immigration reform 31 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:56,599 so Trump could run on this item. I actually did 32 00:01:56,599 --> 00:02:00,480 not forget this aspect to this story when over it yesterday. 33 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:03,760 I'm happy to revisit this point yet again, which is 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,759 we did not need comprehensive immigration reform. This is why 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,960 the Republicans opposed it. It's because it was a terrible bill. 36 00:02:14,759 --> 00:02:18,879 It was terrible. It empowered the Department of Homeland Security 37 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,719 secretary to determine on his own accord when there would 38 00:02:23,719 --> 00:02:27,039 be a quote emergency, and then they put in a 39 00:02:27,199 --> 00:02:29,560 cap and I forget what the cap was that would 40 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,000 trigger the emergency. It was like five thousand border crossings 41 00:02:34,039 --> 00:02:38,360 a day or something crazy. And even when you hit 42 00:02:38,439 --> 00:02:42,840 the trigger point, the Homeland Security Secretary could then say no, 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:50,240 it's not really an emergency. I am done done trading 44 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:59,280 this carrot of immigration reform for enforcement, because that's what's 45 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:04,120 been occurring for forty years. I learned the lesson that 46 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,759 was taught to us by Democrats and also Republicans in 47 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:13,039 Ronald Reagan's term. We were supposed to get border security 48 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,479 in exchange for the amnesty program. We got the amnesty 49 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,080 program and didn't get the security. And ever since then, 50 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:24,439 that's been the offer from Democrats and a lot of 51 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,560 chamber Republicans, a lot of business friendly Republicans because they 52 00:03:28,599 --> 00:03:32,599 wanted the cheap labor too. That was then thrown out there, 53 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,560 Oh well, we'll just do this, we'll do this. That's 54 00:03:34,599 --> 00:03:41,960 why George W. Bush got absolutely dragged over this issue 55 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,319 with his path to citizenship crap that he tried to 56 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:51,199 get enacted, and his own voter base revolted, prompting all 57 00:03:51,199 --> 00:03:55,960 the Republicans then to abandon the idea. That's why people 58 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,199 call him Lindsay Grahamnesty Lindsey Graham. He was part of 59 00:03:59,199 --> 00:04:02,840 the Gang of six, right, these three Republicans, and or 60 00:04:02,879 --> 00:04:04,240 maybe it was a gang of eight. I don't know 61 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,319 how many people they keep in their gangs. Nowadays, but 62 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,280 back then it was like six or eight of them, 63 00:04:08,439 --> 00:04:11,360 four Democrats, four Republicans, whatever, and they you know, we're 64 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:16,279 going to hammer out the comprehensive immigration reform bill, and 65 00:04:16,319 --> 00:04:20,959 it was garbage, just like the last attempt by Langford, 66 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,639 and it was garbage, and that's why it was opposed. 67 00:04:26,079 --> 00:04:30,319 We are done with this, with this promise of enforcement 68 00:04:30,399 --> 00:04:34,879 at some point down the road, because it doesn't ever come. 69 00:04:36,199 --> 00:04:38,839 You guys did everything you could to thwart Trump when 70 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,480 he wanted to build the wall in his first term, right, 71 00:04:43,879 --> 00:04:45,600 and now I'm supposed to believe that now you're on 72 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,199 board with building the wall. Now you'll allow the thing 73 00:04:48,199 --> 00:04:51,279 that you've been going to every district court judge with 74 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:58,000 a Napoleon complex to issue nationwide injunctions. Please, I'm done, 75 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,160 So I'm not going to be I'm not going to 76 00:05:00,199 --> 00:05:06,040 be shamed into this position, into adopting a position that, Okay, 77 00:05:06,399 --> 00:05:09,680 let's just give forgiveness, let's give amnesty, because that's what 78 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:13,439 a path to citizenship is. It is amnesty by a 79 00:05:13,519 --> 00:05:17,279 different name. Okay, you cannot gaslight me on this. I've 80 00:05:17,319 --> 00:05:21,079 been following this issue for twenty five years. I understand 81 00:05:21,079 --> 00:05:24,120 the issue. John wanted to know some of my ideas, Well, 82 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,519 you're going to write the bill. First off, I'm not 83 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,199 writing the bill. Secondly, if I were to write the bill, 84 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,680 I would eliminate chain migration. I would nip that crap 85 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:41,279 in the bud, basically undo the Kennedy components that Senator 86 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,959 Ted Kennedy got stuck in there back in the what 87 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:49,639 was it, late sixties. Cap the total number of immigrants 88 00:05:49,959 --> 00:05:53,639 per year? How many immigrants do you think America allows 89 00:05:53,639 --> 00:05:57,040 into the country every year? How many? What's a number? 90 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,720 How many do you think America legally allows to come 91 00:05:59,759 --> 00:06:04,839 into the country every year. It's about a million. That's 92 00:06:04,879 --> 00:06:08,279 a lot of people. That's a lot of people. I'm 93 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,959 not anti immigration. I want legal immigration, and I would 94 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,399 prefer that the people that we are bringing in want 95 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:19,079 to be Americans, right, they understand and agree with our 96 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:26,199 creed as Americans. If you have an industry that doesn't 97 00:06:26,199 --> 00:06:29,959 have enough workers, then you can create just like we 98 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,839 have done in the agricultural sector. Do it for the 99 00:06:32,879 --> 00:06:37,040 construction sector. But here's the thing. You gotta sign the 100 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,519 guest book on the way in. You have to sign 101 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,800 up for the program, and then you have to go back. 102 00:06:44,079 --> 00:06:47,480 You don't get American citizenship status because you came here 103 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,399 for economic gain and you've been sending money back home 104 00:06:51,439 --> 00:06:54,120 to your family, and you intend to return back there 105 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,319 at some point when you retire because you've made all 106 00:06:56,319 --> 00:06:59,680 this money in the field. And the employers that bring 107 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,800 in the migrant workers, they got to pay them the 108 00:07:02,879 --> 00:07:09,759 prevailing wages, so they're not undercutting American workers. Also, simplify 109 00:07:09,879 --> 00:07:13,600 the immigration process. Takes too long, it's too expensive, make 110 00:07:13,639 --> 00:07:17,079 it easier to go through that process with the proper vetting. 111 00:07:17,079 --> 00:07:20,519 Of course. So those are just some of my ideas 112 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:21,959 off the top of my head that I was thinking 113 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,600 of during the top of the hour break. But again 114 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,399 this argument that is like, well, we can't just deport 115 00:07:29,439 --> 00:07:36,439 them all. That's mean, Like I'm sorry, but that is 116 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,759 the law. Like I don't know what to tell you 117 00:07:38,839 --> 00:07:41,720 at this point. We have tried it these other ways, 118 00:07:42,439 --> 00:07:44,920 and when you don't follow the law, you end up 119 00:07:44,959 --> 00:07:47,800 with the complete poop show that we now have and 120 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:54,680 have had for the last thirty years and really amped 121 00:07:54,759 --> 00:08:01,240 up under Biden, like it's insanity. It's you're not a 122 00:08:01,279 --> 00:08:05,120 country if you don't have a secure border, if you 123 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:09,319 allow anybody to come through and then live and work 124 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,519 enjoy all of the benefits that they do. Like you're 125 00:08:14,519 --> 00:08:16,759 not even really a country at that point, and you're 126 00:08:16,759 --> 00:08:20,160 not assimilating people in and that is a key part 127 00:08:20,199 --> 00:08:24,079 of this assimilation. And this is the tension. There is 128 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,680 a tension here because our ethos is that we are 129 00:08:28,759 --> 00:08:31,360 the land of opportunity. We welcome the immigrants. 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Regarding 158 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,840 the construction industry because I mentioned to John who works 159 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:24,120 in that field, and yesterday he made the case that 160 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,879 you know, there's going to be a lot of these 161 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,720 job sites now that are not going to have workers, 162 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:31,759 and it prompted a bunch of messages on the text 163 00:10:31,759 --> 00:10:35,320 line driven by libertyviewick GMC, and so I went and 164 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:40,200 I curated them here one said, I'm in construction, and 165 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,799 now it looks like my skills are going to be 166 00:10:41,799 --> 00:10:45,360 worth a whole lot more. Another one said Pete twenty 167 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,919 five years ago, I ran a roofing company in Charlotte, 168 00:10:47,919 --> 00:10:50,879 and I had not a single Latino worker. Today, the 169 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,960 entire roofing workforce is Latino. I think there are indeed 170 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:00,440 American citizens that'll do these jobs, but others are taking 171 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,919 them away. Scott said, I don't know how I feel 172 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,240 about this. I'm a Trump supporter, but this has shut 173 00:11:06,279 --> 00:11:10,399 down the construction industry in Charlotte, Columbia, Greenville. Today. I 174 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,480 know legal immigrants that are scared and stayed home for 175 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,120 fear of being targeted for their skin color, and this 176 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,320 will hurt the housing industry and departments for months after 177 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:29,000 that affects the economy. Okay, so legal immigrants legal immigrants. Well, 178 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,320 if they are in the country and they don't have 179 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:35,759 citizenship yet but they are legal aliens, then they are 180 00:11:35,799 --> 00:11:39,879 required to carry their proof that allows them to be here, 181 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,480 whatever that is, work visa or whatever. They have to 182 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:47,440 have that on them. That's the law. Again, I didn't 183 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,960 write the laws. If you don't want these laws enforced, 184 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:56,000 then the proper thing to do is to repeal the laws. 185 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,399 And I would submit that the people who are running 186 00:12:02,399 --> 00:12:06,879 around with their cameras and hawking their horns and ramming 187 00:12:06,919 --> 00:12:11,960 their CBP vehicles and such, the Democrat lawmakers who want, 188 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,840 you know, sanctuary cities and stuff, these are the people 189 00:12:14,919 --> 00:12:19,039 that are actually stoking the fear in the legal immigrant communities. 190 00:12:20,279 --> 00:12:23,080 Those are the ones that are doing it. If a 191 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,159 CBP official comes up and asks you a question and 192 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,080 you are here legally, you say, I'm a citizen of 193 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:34,320 you know, whatever country, and here's my proof that I 194 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,240 am legally required to carry with me at all times. 195 00:12:37,759 --> 00:12:40,600 Here's my proof that I'm in the country with permission. 196 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,360 You are documented a documented immigrant. Kevin says, I have 197 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,080 first hand experience of this. I'm a subcontractor for large 198 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,080 construction companies in the area, including the largest roofing company 199 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,480 on the East Coast. The way they get around the 200 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:01,679 I nine form and E verify is paying subcontractor companies 201 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,200 that actually do the roofing. The subs then hire the 202 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:10,720 illegal immigrants. That is correct, Russ. Not that he needs 203 00:13:10,759 --> 00:13:14,200 me to say that he knows firsthand, Russ says the caller, 204 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,240 arguing that we need these people to do the jobs 205 00:13:16,279 --> 00:13:20,559 Americans won't do. Is frustrating. Lower wages or offshoring is 206 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,480 almost always a temporary savings but long term expense. If 207 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,919 we paid higher wages, we'd attract more skilled workers who 208 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,320 would do a better job. Things would cost marginally more, 209 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,720 but it would remove all the hidden costs and give 210 00:13:34,799 --> 00:13:38,600 consumers better quality, longer lasting stuff. By the way, there 211 00:13:38,639 --> 00:13:41,840 are hidden costs. They come in the form of taxes 212 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,960 that you pay to support programs to help people that 213 00:13:46,039 --> 00:13:50,399 are not earning enough. The left knows this, by the way, 214 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,480 because this was the argument they made against Walmart in 215 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:58,600 demanding that Walmart raise their wages. A third generation contractor 216 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,879 friend told me his grandfather and father used to use 217 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,559 the same subcontractors for decades, but the influx of illegal 218 00:14:07,639 --> 00:14:11,679 labor put many of those subs out of business. Now 219 00:14:11,879 --> 00:14:14,559 they rarely use the same subs more than a couple 220 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,159 of times because of the lower quality work. They now 221 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,519 spend almost as much on following up and fixing poor 222 00:14:21,639 --> 00:14:24,480 work than they would have spent on higher wages in 223 00:14:24,519 --> 00:14:28,080 the first place. I remember doing an interview with this 224 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,639 was twenty years ago. I did an interview with a 225 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,519 local union guy. He was a carpenter, and he said 226 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,200 that his business had basically dried up and all he 227 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,360 is brought in to do is exactly that. He comes 228 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:43,960 in and does the high end finishes and fixes all 229 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,360 of the mistakes in people's homes with new builds, that's 230 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,519 what he does because they don't build it correctly and 231 00:14:51,559 --> 00:14:54,360 so he has to come in make it look better. 232 00:14:54,879 --> 00:14:57,000 Or if somebody wants custom work done, then he does 233 00:14:57,039 --> 00:15:00,559 that before they move in. And that's what his business 234 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,320 has been reduced to. And he charges he At that time, 235 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:08,559 he charged a lot of money per hour. He was 236 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,879 a master carpenter. So like these are the real world 237 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,000 impacts of these policies. You can't just look at one 238 00:15:16,039 --> 00:15:19,279 side of the ledger. Here's a great idea. 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Okay, Yeah, 267 00:17:03,919 --> 00:17:09,240 that's good job, Good job, AJ James, Welcome to the program. 268 00:17:09,319 --> 00:17:10,039 Hello James. 269 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 2: Hey, you got you've got a human on this infire alrighty. Hey, 270 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:21,559 you know it's unfortunate that so many documented folks are 271 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:24,400 staying home. But you know who to blame for it? 272 00:17:24,559 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: I do. 273 00:17:25,039 --> 00:17:30,559 Speaker 2: And it's the mediaize they're turning in. They're turning a targeted, 274 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:35,839 legal government operation into a free for all, perceived free 275 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,079 for all. And these people are scared to leave home. 276 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,640 And I mean, and it's they're trying to make homeland 277 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,119 security look bad and border patrol look bad. But but 278 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,839 they're just creating chaos that doesn't need to happen. 279 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: This is why, I this is why. Yeah, it's the 280 00:17:50,079 --> 00:17:53,799 Hamas strategy. Democrats did the exact same thing with the 281 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:57,799 government shutdown. Right, It's a pr strategy that's based off 282 00:17:57,839 --> 00:18:01,680 of what Hamas did in order to the result is 283 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,079 going to be the same. Right, the operation is still 284 00:18:04,079 --> 00:18:07,039 going to go on until I guess Friday afternoon. They're 285 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:09,440 saying they're going to clear out, and I don't know 286 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,359 if they will or not. That's I've seen the report 287 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,440 that that's the timeline. But in the meantime, it's about 288 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,400 pr to help the Democrats animate their base and get 289 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,400 people rallying around their side. And that's what Hamas did 290 00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:25,640 during the two years after they you know, raped their 291 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:30,599 way through and murdered their way through southern Israel. So yeah, 292 00:18:30,599 --> 00:18:33,079 like I recognize the strategy and the media and Democrats, 293 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,759 but I repeat myself, they're the ones that are fomenting 294 00:18:35,799 --> 00:18:40,000 this kind of fear among the legal community exactly. 295 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,279 Speaker 2: And you know you made a comment about you knew 296 00:18:43,319 --> 00:18:45,680 someone of the business that made a good living out 297 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,960 of correcting the bad workmanship. Let me put a plug 298 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,240 in for some Hispanic workers that I experienced. We had 299 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,920 a pretty large backyard project and we contracted with a 300 00:18:54,039 --> 00:18:56,880 Charlotte company to do the work. And they're subs. Most 301 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,119 of them were Hispanic. They spoke some broken English, a 302 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,119 little Spanish. But I'm telling you what, the workmanship, the 303 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:07,680 work ethic, just the camaraderie. I was cutting up with 304 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,759 them and they were just there was a cool bunch 305 00:19:09,799 --> 00:19:13,000 of guys and in the back of my mind, I'm wondering, Yeah, 306 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,559 I wonder what their legal status is, and you know, yeah, 307 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,119 probably should have asked. But on the other hand, it's like, 308 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,279 I really didn't have any reason to. They did great 309 00:19:21,319 --> 00:19:25,440 work for reasonable money, and I've been getting away from 310 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,160 that experience with a huge amount of respect. 311 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,319 Speaker 1: But here's the thing is that because of this, because 312 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,519 of the policies and the lack of enforcement for forty 313 00:19:34,599 --> 00:19:38,880 years almost now, yep, these are the questions that now 314 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,599 pop into people's minds, right because if if you knew 315 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:50,240 and like, imagine an alternative world where we had border security, right, 316 00:19:50,279 --> 00:19:52,920 so anybody that was in the country there was a 317 00:19:53,039 --> 00:19:57,880 high degree of trust that they were here legally, right, 318 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,559 then you wouldn't be thinking that way about these guys 319 00:20:01,559 --> 00:20:04,000 that are on your property doing the work. You would 320 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,839 not have that thought. But because of the lack of 321 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,160 enforcement for the last forty years, now people do view 322 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,960 others like this. This is what This is the same 323 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,640 thing Charlie Kirk was talking about before he was murdered, 324 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,319 The same sort of dynamic at play when when there 325 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,160 is like this is one of the outgrowth of affirmative action, 326 00:20:23,319 --> 00:20:26,880 for example, where now people start wondering did you get 327 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,480 there for merit or did you get here for some 328 00:20:29,559 --> 00:20:32,640 sort of other reason, And that's like, that's wrong to 329 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,000 do that to the population that would otherwise not be 330 00:20:36,079 --> 00:20:39,480 thinking these things. But for the policies exactly. 331 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you make a really good point. And 332 00:20:42,319 --> 00:20:44,640 I think it's just like, you know, as Americans were 333 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,960 kind of guilty. We love our two hundred dollars TVs, 334 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,359 but long term would be better off if we paid 335 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,319 three hundred dollars for a TV that was made in 336 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:56,839 Wisconsin somewhere and you know, made on shore. I mean, 337 00:20:56,839 --> 00:21:02,119 I think it's a short sighted strategy for the cheap labor. 338 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,240 As someone said earlier, it really is. It's a better 339 00:21:04,279 --> 00:21:07,119 long term strategy to strike a balance. 340 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 341 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,039 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and part of the other thing is you 342 00:21:09,079 --> 00:21:12,839 can't compete with slave wages in China, you cannot compete 343 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,440 with slave labor. Yeah, James, I appreciate the call, buddy. 344 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,759 Speaker 2: Thanks, thank you, Bud. 345 00:21:17,839 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: There's another component here, and I've talked about this as well, 346 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:28,000 which is for Democrats, this operation poses an existential threat 347 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,559 to their power, Okay, And it has to do with 348 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:38,240 the census. The census counts population total that population total 349 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,480 is then divided. The total US population right is then 350 00:21:43,519 --> 00:21:46,960 divided out among four hundred and thirty five congressional seats 351 00:21:47,559 --> 00:21:51,799 to come up with the optimal population per congressional seat. 352 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,920 Right now, it's about eight hundred thousand. Then you take 353 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,160 that eight hundred thousand number, you plug it into a 354 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,200 state's population, and that determines how many congressional seats you 355 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,079 get in the House of Representatives. So, if you're counting 356 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,920 total population and you're including a bunch of people that 357 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,119 aren't supposed to be here, your population numbers go up, 358 00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:15,680 which means you get more congressional seats. It also factors 359 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:21,720 into the Electoral College votes, which that elects the president. Right, So, 360 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:27,000 if you have a reduction in illegal aliens that are 361 00:22:27,039 --> 00:22:32,440 living in America, if they are cloistered in predominantly Democrat 362 00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:38,359 states and cities and districts, they lose population, they lose seats, 363 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,680 they lose the presidency. This is an existential problem for them. 364 00:22:42,759 --> 00:22:45,400 They don't want to talk about it. No local reporters 365 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,079 ever asked the local Democrats about this. Here's Chip Roy. 366 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:51,039 Speaker 4: The leading study found that if congressional seats were properly 367 00:22:51,079 --> 00:22:54,559 apportioned based on the number of citizens, Republican states would 368 00:22:54,599 --> 00:22:56,559 gain between ten and twelve seats in the House of 369 00:22:56,599 --> 00:23:01,480 Representatives and votes in the Electoral College. Right, illegal aliens 370 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,440 and non citizens have at least ten seats in the 371 00:23:03,519 --> 00:23:06,839 US House Representatives and the Electoral College, and that was 372 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,319 before Biden administration's policies. Welcome to ten million more illegal 373 00:23:10,319 --> 00:23:14,319 aliens into our country during its disastrous four years. How 374 00:23:14,319 --> 00:23:16,599 many more seats will that give Democrats in the twenty 375 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,359 thirty census if nothing changes. Counting of illegal aliens in 376 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,079 the census and as part of the apportionment base, also 377 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,279 violates the core constitutional principle of one person, one vote. 378 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,799 The Supreme Court is repeatedly held that state and federal 379 00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:32,000 legislative districts must be roughly equal in population, so that 380 00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:34,079 each citizen's vote is roughly equal in power. 381 00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: There you go. There is a constitutional question at the 382 00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:43,000 heart of this debate, and nobody wants to talk about it. 383 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,400 So kudos to Chip Roy for raising this. All right, 384 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,279 if you're listening to this show, you know I try 385 00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:50,039 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 386 00:23:50,079 --> 00:23:52,400 I know you do too, and you've probably heard me say, 387 00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:56,599 get your news from multiple sources. Why Well, because it's 388 00:23:56,599 --> 00:23:59,319 how you detect media bias, which is why I've been 389 00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:02,920 so impressed with ground News. It's an app, and it's 390 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,880 a website, and it combines news from around the world 391 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,319 in one place so you can compare coverage and verify information. 392 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,880 You can check it out at check dot ground, dot 393 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,079 news slash pete. I put the link in the podcast 394 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,079 description too. 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Let me get Tim 405 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,119 on here and the I'm gonna get to some of 406 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,319 the text messages. Tim, Welcome to the show. 407 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 3: Hey hope you're doing jam and joy. Thanks sir, Yes, sir, 408 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,039 I had an observation I was watching a TikTok video 409 00:25:05,519 --> 00:25:09,839 last night, and somebody in Charlotte is following ice around, 410 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,000 taking all their activities and they're posting them on TikTok. 411 00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:18,160 And there's actually quite a few of them. But any case, 412 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,480 I was watching this and the tenor of it is 413 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,759 to just demonstrate how draconian ice is and how horrible 414 00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:28,839 law enforcement is, and this such a thing. So I 415 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,519 thought I'd just click over onto the comments that people 416 00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:38,720 are making about this. Slowly, eighty percent of every single 417 00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:43,720 comment on those videos are very positive towards law enforcement, 418 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,480 reading things like praying for our ice agents, thank you 419 00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:53,079 for doing your job, You're welcome here in Charlotte. And 420 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,680 I was just a little surprised at how many comments 421 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,519 were so positive law enforcement right here in Charlotte. 422 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it does. That is cause for some optimism. Tim. 423 00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:08,839 I appreciate the call. That's that's surprising, but in a 424 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,960 good way. I appreciate that. Let me get to some 425 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,400 of these messages, because I got like two dozen of 426 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,960 them here, seven oh four number. I'm wondering who provided 427 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,319 all the Mexican flags for the young people to wrap 428 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,920 around themselves at the street party. H slash protest last night. 429 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:27,720 The flags still had creases where they had been folded 430 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,880 and packaged. Yeah, I mean hard to say. You know, 431 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,880 your guess is as good as mine. Let me see. 432 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,440 Do you know how ICE identifies illegal immigrants? What kind 433 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,559 of identification should illegal citizen have on them? Is a 434 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,319 driver's license enough? Well, first off, it's Customs and Border Patrol. 435 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,680 They have a set list of questions we learned yesterday 436 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,119 that they run through. And yeah, if you have if 437 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,119 you have a driver's license, then you show them the 438 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,000 driver's license and then they can run your name through 439 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,680 through their system. And if you're not a citizen of 440 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,680 America and you claim to be one, that's actually a felony. Again, 441 00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:13,880 if you don't like the laws, then change the laws. 442 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,799 If you want to be able to lie about whether 443 00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:19,160 you're here in the country illegally to a law enforcement officer, 444 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,599 you want to be able to do that, then you know, 445 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,319 whip the votes and start your letter writing campaign and 446 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,200 get that done. Does the fourteenth Amendment allow the census 447 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,480 to exclusively count citizen slash eligible voters. Well, this was 448 00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:36,799 one of the tests in the last census in twenty twenty, 449 00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:39,640 and this is what this is why Trump was trying 450 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:45,720 to force that issue back then. So yeah, to me, 451 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,200 it's just it's nuts. It's just nuts that we count 452 00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:53,799 people who aren't supposed to be here seven oh four numbers, 453 00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:55,839 says I'm glad you spoke about the census. The illegal 454 00:27:55,839 --> 00:27:58,839 immigrant position taken by the Democrats is not about compassion. 455 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,079 It's about power. If it were about compassion, they would 456 00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:06,240 at least differentiate between illegals with violent records and those 457 00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:09,920 without out of compassion for the rest of the community. Yeah, 458 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:15,480 that's a great point. I agree with current caller. As 459 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,920 a contractor in rock Hill, we had several documented subs 460 00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:21,640 that will not come out of their house because they 461 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,920 are scared and or don't want the potential hassle. We 462 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,279 have had to update our clients and let them know 463 00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:30,799 of potential delays. It's all very unfortunate, though I wholeheartedly 464 00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:33,680 agree with this needed action and correction. These are subs 465 00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:39,720 out of Charlotte. Thank you for reporting, Pete. I'm in 466 00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:43,720 the multi family industry and I can remember a time 467 00:28:43,759 --> 00:28:48,319 when all of our contract landscapers were American, not one Latino. 468 00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:51,960 This was about twenty years ago. Those jobs now taken 469 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:57,440 from Americans. Americans want skilled labor. So here's a little 470 00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:01,519 peak behind the personal curtain. I actually have been working 471 00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:06,599 with my HOA. I've been the landscape chair, Landscape committee chair, 472 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:14,079 so I've actually been dealing with several landscaping companies and like, 473 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:21,440 we know the ones that hire legal American citizens. We 474 00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:26,200 know we can determine that. So like, these are choices 475 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:32,319 that companies make. Only been able to listen part time today. Outrageous. 476 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,000 So I don't know if this was a topic, wouldn't 477 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,119 the Democrats that are saying it's okay to refuse to 478 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,000 obey orders, isn't that inciting insurrection? It is. It's a 479 00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:44,359 nullification crisis brewing. What you have at the heart of 480 00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:49,000 this is democrats for motives, as I mentioned, for power. 481 00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:55,359 Democrats are attempting to nullify through either ignoring the law 482 00:29:56,359 --> 00:30:02,359 or actively impeding law enforcement from the federal government, and 483 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,440 that is creating a nullification crisis. And the last time 484 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,799 we had one of these, it ended in a civil war, 485 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,400 and Democrats were also at that time trying to protect 486 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,240 their slave labor. So there is that commonality too. All Right, 487 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,599 that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 488 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,680 for listening. 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