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last hour, John called in. We had a brief discussion.
I just didn't have enough time to go over everything
with him. But John had called and we spoke yesterday
as well, and John works in the construction industry, and
yesterday he was making the point that all of these
job sites now have no workers and you know, all
of these illegal aliens that have been on the job
sites that you know, Americans won't do these jobs, and
so therefore no one of this stuff is going to
get built and this is going to be terrible for
the economy and all of this. And then today John's
follow up was seeking he said clarification on my position
that what just deport all illegal aliens and My response
is that is the law, and you are either for
the enforcement of the law or you're going to say
we shall reward you for breaking the law. Right, those
are the options on the table. Now. John suggests that
we write, you know, immigration, comprehensive immigration reform. And to
that point, here's a text that comes in from one
of our trolls on the text line, amazing, how quickly
and conveniently you forget the GOP blocked bipartisan immigration reform
so Trump could run on this item. I actually did
not forget this aspect to this story when over it yesterday.
I'm happy to revisit this point yet again, which is
we did not need comprehensive immigration reform. This is why
the Republicans opposed it. It's because it was a terrible bill.
It was terrible. It empowered the Department of Homeland Security
secretary to determine on his own accord when there would
be a quote emergency, and then they put in a
cap and I forget what the cap was that would
trigger the emergency. It was like five thousand border crossings
a day or something crazy. And even when you hit
the trigger point, the Homeland Security Secretary could then say no,
it's not really an emergency. I am done done trading
this carrot of immigration reform for enforcement, because that's what's
been occurring for forty years. I learned the lesson that
was taught to us by Democrats and also Republicans in
Ronald Reagan's term. We were supposed to get border security
in exchange for the amnesty program. We got the amnesty
program and didn't get the security. And ever since then,
that's been the offer from Democrats and a lot of
chamber Republicans, a lot of business friendly Republicans because they
wanted the cheap labor too. That was then thrown out there,
Oh well, we'll just do this, we'll do this. That's
why George W. Bush got absolutely dragged over this issue
with his path to citizenship crap that he tried to
get enacted, and his own voter base revolted, prompting all
the Republicans then to abandon the idea. That's why people
call him Lindsay Grahamnesty Lindsey Graham. He was part of
the Gang of six, right, these three Republicans, and or
maybe it was a gang of eight. I don't know
how many people they keep in their gangs. Nowadays, but
back then it was like six or eight of them,
four Democrats, four Republicans, whatever, and they you know, we're
going to hammer out the comprehensive immigration reform bill, and
it was garbage, just like the last attempt by Langford,
and it was garbage, and that's why it was opposed.
We are done with this, with this promise of enforcement
at some point down the road, because it doesn't ever come.
You guys did everything you could to thwart Trump when
he wanted to build the wall in his first term, right,
and now I'm supposed to believe that now you're on
board with building the wall. Now you'll allow the thing
that you've been going to every district court judge with
a Napoleon complex to issue nationwide injunctions. Please, I'm done,
So I'm not going to be I'm not going to
be shamed into this position, into adopting a position that, Okay,
let's just give forgiveness, let's give amnesty, because that's what
a path to citizenship is. It is amnesty by a
different name. Okay, you cannot gaslight me on this. I've
been following this issue for twenty five years. I understand
the issue. John wanted to know some of my ideas, Well,
you're going to write the bill. First off, I'm not
writing the bill. Secondly, if I were to write the bill,
I would eliminate chain migration. I would nip that crap
in the bud, basically undo the Kennedy components that Senator
Ted Kennedy got stuck in there back in the what
was it, late sixties. Cap the total number of immigrants
per year? How many immigrants do you think America allows
into the country every year? How many? What's a number?
How many do you think America legally allows to come
into the country every year. It's about a million. That's
a lot of people. That's a lot of people. I'm
not anti immigration. I want legal immigration, and I would
prefer that the people that we are bringing in want
to be Americans, right, they understand and agree with our
creed as Americans. If you have an industry that doesn't
have enough workers, then you can create just like we
have done in the agricultural sector. Do it for the
construction sector. But here's the thing. You gotta sign the
guest book on the way in. You have to sign
up for the program, and then you have to go back.
You don't get American citizenship status because you came here
for economic gain and you've been sending money back home
to your family, and you intend to return back there
at some point when you retire because you've made all
this money in the field. And the employers that bring
in the migrant workers, they got to pay them the
prevailing wages, so they're not undercutting American workers. Also, simplify
the immigration process. Takes too long, it's too expensive, make
it easier to go through that process with the proper vetting.
Of course. So those are just some of my ideas
off the top of my head that I was thinking
of during the top of the hour break. But again
this argument that is like, well, we can't just deport
them all. That's mean, Like I'm sorry, but that is
the law. Like I don't know what to tell you
at this point. We have tried it these other ways,
and when you don't follow the law, you end up
with the complete poop show that we now have and
have had for the last thirty years and really amped
up under Biden, like it's insanity. It's you're not a
country if you don't have a secure border, if you
allow anybody to come through and then live and work
enjoy all of the benefits that they do. Like you're
not even really a country at that point, and you're
not assimilating people in and that is a key part
of this assimilation. And this is the tension. There is
a tension here because our ethos is that we are
the land of opportunity. We welcome the immigrants. We want
people to come here to be successful, contribute to the society,
and so there's an openness, right, But the tension is
that there are people who will take advantage of that.
So you've got to find the balance there. And that's
more of a cultural thing that gov CO can't force
that upon people. To some extent, they can influence it
right through assimilation focused policies. But that's the tension. We're
a free society, yes, but we want people to come here,
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the construction industry because I mentioned to John who works
in that field, and yesterday he made the case that
you know, there's going to be a lot of these
job sites now that are not going to have workers,
and it prompted a bunch of messages on the text
line driven by libertyviewick GMC, and so I went and
I curated them here one said, I'm in construction, and
now it looks like my skills are going to be
worth a whole lot more. Another one said Pete twenty
five years ago, I ran a roofing company in Charlotte,
and I had not a single Latino worker. Today, the
entire roofing workforce is Latino. I think there are indeed
American citizens that'll do these jobs, but others are taking
them away. Scott said, I don't know how I feel
about this. I'm a Trump supporter, but this has shut
down the construction industry in Charlotte, Columbia, Greenville. Today. I
know legal immigrants that are scared and stayed home for
fear of being targeted for their skin color, and this
will hurt the housing industry and departments for months after
that affects the economy. Okay, so legal immigrants legal immigrants. Well,
if they are in the country and they don't have
citizenship yet but they are legal aliens, then they are
required to carry their proof that allows them to be here,
whatever that is, work visa or whatever. They have to
have that on them. That's the law. Again, I didn't
write the laws. If you don't want these laws enforced,
then the proper thing to do is to repeal the laws.
And I would submit that the people who are running
around with their cameras and hawking their horns and ramming
their CBP vehicles and such, the Democrat lawmakers who want,
you know, sanctuary cities and stuff, these are the people
that are actually stoking the fear in the legal immigrant communities.
Those are the ones that are doing it. If a
CBP official comes up and asks you a question and
you are here legally, you say, I'm a citizen of
you know, whatever country, and here's my proof that I
am legally required to carry with me at all times.
Here's my proof that I'm in the country with permission.
You are documented a documented immigrant. Kevin says, I have
first hand experience of this. I'm a subcontractor for large
construction companies in the area, including the largest roofing company
on the East Coast. The way they get around the
I nine form and E verify is paying subcontractor companies
that actually do the roofing. The subs then hire the
illegal immigrants. That is correct, Russ. Not that he needs
me to say that he knows firsthand, Russ says the caller,
arguing that we need these people to do the jobs
Americans won't do. Is frustrating. Lower wages or offshoring is
almost always a temporary savings but long term expense. If
we paid higher wages, we'd attract more skilled workers who
would do a better job. Things would cost marginally more,
but it would remove all the hidden costs and give
consumers better quality, longer lasting stuff. By the way, there
are hidden costs. They come in the form of taxes
that you pay to support programs to help people that
are not earning enough. The left knows this, by the way,
because this was the argument they made against Walmart in
demanding that Walmart raise their wages. A third generation contractor
friend told me his grandfather and father used to use
the same subcontractors for decades, but the influx of illegal
labor put many of those subs out of business. Now
they rarely use the same subs more than a couple
of times because of the lower quality work. They now
spend almost as much on following up and fixing poor
work than they would have spent on higher wages in
the first place. I remember doing an interview with this
was twenty years ago. I did an interview with a
local union guy. He was a carpenter, and he said
that his business had basically dried up and all he
is brought in to do is exactly that. He comes
in and does the high end finishes and fixes all
of the mistakes in people's homes with new builds, that's
what he does because they don't build it correctly and
so he has to come in make it look better.
Or if somebody wants custom work done, then he does
that before they move in. And that's what his business
has been reduced to. And he charges he At that time,
he charged a lot of money per hour. He was
a master carpenter. So like these are the real world
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to the phone lines here and talk with AJ. Hello, AJ,
welcome to the show. Oh this is Chester or should
I say seminar caller? Hello, you got to turn your
mic on. Make sure your stream yard or obs platform
is U is recording. Hey, j did you forget which
name you called in under I'm going to you. Okay, Yeah,
that's good job, Good job, AJ James, Welcome to the program.
Hello James.
Speaker 2: Hey, you got you've got a human on this infire alrighty. Hey,
you know it's unfortunate that so many documented folks are
staying home. But you know who to blame for it?
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: And it's the mediaize they're turning in. They're turning a targeted,
legal government operation into a free for all, perceived free
for all. And these people are scared to leave home.
And I mean, and it's they're trying to make homeland
security look bad and border patrol look bad. But but
they're just creating chaos that doesn't need to happen.
Speaker 1: This is why, I this is why. Yeah, it's the
Hamas strategy. Democrats did the exact same thing with the
government shutdown. Right, It's a pr strategy that's based off
of what Hamas did in order to the result is
going to be the same. Right, the operation is still
going to go on until I guess Friday afternoon. They're
saying they're going to clear out, and I don't know
if they will or not. That's I've seen the report
that that's the timeline. But in the meantime, it's about
pr to help the Democrats animate their base and get
people rallying around their side. And that's what Hamas did
during the two years after they you know, raped their
way through and murdered their way through southern Israel. So yeah,
like I recognize the strategy and the media and Democrats,
but I repeat myself, they're the ones that are fomenting
this kind of fear among the legal community exactly.
Speaker 2: And you know you made a comment about you knew
someone of the business that made a good living out
of correcting the bad workmanship. Let me put a plug
in for some Hispanic workers that I experienced. We had
a pretty large backyard project and we contracted with a
Charlotte company to do the work. And they're subs. Most
of them were Hispanic. They spoke some broken English, a
little Spanish. But I'm telling you what, the workmanship, the
work ethic, just the camaraderie. I was cutting up with
them and they were just there was a cool bunch
of guys and in the back of my mind, I'm wondering, Yeah,
I wonder what their legal status is, and you know, yeah,
probably should have asked. But on the other hand, it's like,
I really didn't have any reason to. They did great
work for reasonable money, and I've been getting away from
that experience with a huge amount of respect.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing is that because of this, because
of the policies and the lack of enforcement for forty
years almost now, yep, these are the questions that now
pop into people's minds, right because if if you knew
and like, imagine an alternative world where we had border security, right,
so anybody that was in the country there was a
high degree of trust that they were here legally, right,
then you wouldn't be thinking that way about these guys
that are on your property doing the work. You would
not have that thought. But because of the lack of
enforcement for the last forty years, now people do view
others like this. This is what This is the same
thing Charlie Kirk was talking about before he was murdered,
The same sort of dynamic at play when when there
is like this is one of the outgrowth of affirmative action,
for example, where now people start wondering did you get
there for merit or did you get here for some
sort of other reason, And that's like, that's wrong to
do that to the population that would otherwise not be
thinking these things. But for the policies exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you make a really good point. And
I think it's just like, you know, as Americans were
kind of guilty. We love our two hundred dollars TVs,
but long term would be better off if we paid
three hundred dollars for a TV that was made in
Wisconsin somewhere and you know, made on shore. I mean,
I think it's a short sighted strategy for the cheap labor.
As someone said earlier, it really is. It's a better
long term strategy to strike a balance.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and part of the other thing is you
can't compete with slave wages in China, you cannot compete
with slave labor. Yeah, James, I appreciate the call, buddy.
Speaker 2: Thanks, thank you, Bud.
Speaker 1: There's another component here, and I've talked about this as well,
which is for Democrats, this operation poses an existential threat
to their power, Okay, And it has to do with
the census. The census counts population total that population total
is then divided. The total US population right is then
divided out among four hundred and thirty five congressional seats
to come up with the optimal population per congressional seat.
Right now, it's about eight hundred thousand. Then you take
that eight hundred thousand number, you plug it into a
state's population, and that determines how many congressional seats you
get in the House of Representatives. So, if you're counting
total population and you're including a bunch of people that
aren't supposed to be here, your population numbers go up,
which means you get more congressional seats. It also factors
into the Electoral College votes, which that elects the president. Right, So,
if you have a reduction in illegal aliens that are
living in America, if they are cloistered in predominantly Democrat
states and cities and districts, they lose population, they lose seats,
they lose the presidency. This is an existential problem for them.
They don't want to talk about it. No local reporters
ever asked the local Democrats about this. Here's Chip Roy.
Speaker 4: The leading study found that if congressional seats were properly
apportioned based on the number of citizens, Republican states would
gain between ten and twelve seats in the House of
Representatives and votes in the Electoral College. Right, illegal aliens
and non citizens have at least ten seats in the
US House Representatives and the Electoral College, and that was
before Biden administration's policies. Welcome to ten million more illegal
aliens into our country during its disastrous four years. How
many more seats will that give Democrats in the twenty
thirty census if nothing changes. Counting of illegal aliens in
the census and as part of the apportionment base, also
violates the core constitutional principle of one person, one vote.
The Supreme Court is repeatedly held that state and federal
legislative districts must be roughly equal in population, so that
each citizen's vote is roughly equal in power.
Speaker 1: There you go. There is a constitutional question at the
heart of this debate, and nobody wants to talk about it.
So kudos to Chip Roy for raising this. All right,
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on here and the I'm gonna get to some of
the text messages. Tim, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Hey hope you're doing jam and joy. Thanks sir, Yes, sir,
I had an observation I was watching a TikTok video
last night, and somebody in Charlotte is following ice around,
taking all their activities and they're posting them on TikTok.
And there's actually quite a few of them. But any case,
I was watching this and the tenor of it is
to just demonstrate how draconian ice is and how horrible
law enforcement is, and this such a thing. So I
thought I'd just click over onto the comments that people
are making about this. Slowly, eighty percent of every single
comment on those videos are very positive towards law enforcement,
reading things like praying for our ice agents, thank you
for doing your job, You're welcome here in Charlotte. And
I was just a little surprised at how many comments
were so positive law enforcement right here in Charlotte.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it does. That is cause for some optimism. Tim.
I appreciate the call. That's that's surprising, but in a
good way. I appreciate that. Let me get to some
of these messages, because I got like two dozen of
them here, seven oh four number. I'm wondering who provided
all the Mexican flags for the young people to wrap
around themselves at the street party. H slash protest last night.
The flags still had creases where they had been folded
and packaged. Yeah, I mean hard to say. You know,
your guess is as good as mine. Let me see.
Do you know how ICE identifies illegal immigrants? What kind
of identification should illegal citizen have on them? Is a
driver's license enough? Well, first off, it's Customs and Border Patrol.
They have a set list of questions we learned yesterday
that they run through. And yeah, if you have if
you have a driver's license, then you show them the
driver's license and then they can run your name through
through their system. And if you're not a citizen of
America and you claim to be one, that's actually a felony. Again,
if you don't like the laws, then change the laws.
If you want to be able to lie about whether
you're here in the country illegally to a law enforcement officer,
you want to be able to do that, then you know,
whip the votes and start your letter writing campaign and
get that done. Does the fourteenth Amendment allow the census
to exclusively count citizen slash eligible voters. Well, this was
one of the tests in the last census in twenty twenty,
and this is what this is why Trump was trying
to force that issue back then. So yeah, to me,
it's just it's nuts. It's just nuts that we count
people who aren't supposed to be here seven oh four numbers,
says I'm glad you spoke about the census. The illegal
immigrant position taken by the Democrats is not about compassion.
It's about power. If it were about compassion, they would
at least differentiate between illegals with violent records and those
without out of compassion for the rest of the community. Yeah,
that's a great point. I agree with current caller. As
a contractor in rock Hill, we had several documented subs
that will not come out of their house because they
are scared and or don't want the potential hassle. We
have had to update our clients and let them know
of potential delays. It's all very unfortunate, though I wholeheartedly
agree with this needed action and correction. These are subs
out of Charlotte. Thank you for reporting, Pete. I'm in
the multi family industry and I can remember a time
when all of our contract landscapers were American, not one Latino.
This was about twenty years ago. Those jobs now taken
from Americans. Americans want skilled labor. So here's a little
peak behind the personal curtain. I actually have been working
with my HOA. I've been the landscape chair, Landscape committee chair,
so I've actually been dealing with several landscaping companies and like,
we know the ones that hire legal American citizens. We
know we can determine that. So like, these are choices
that companies make. Only been able to listen part time today. Outrageous.
So I don't know if this was a topic, wouldn't
the Democrats that are saying it's okay to refuse to
obey orders, isn't that inciting insurrection? It is. It's a
nullification crisis brewing. What you have at the heart of
this is democrats for motives, as I mentioned, for power.
Democrats are attempting to nullify through either ignoring the law
or actively impeding law enforcement from the federal government, and
that is creating a nullification crisis. And the last time
we had one of these, it ended in a civil war,
and Democrats were also at that time trying to protect
their slave labor. So there is that commonality too. All Right,
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