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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity

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<v Speaker 1>with the show, all right, Bigfat Society. We got the

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<v Speaker 1>privilege of talking to individual Anne, who I'd seen a

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<v Speaker 1>comment on a YouTube video and I had asked for

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<v Speaker 1>her to reach out, and she actually did end up

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<v Speaker 1>reaching out, and it's leading to a very interesting conversation

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<v Speaker 1>that's about to happen. I've been waiting to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>and for little bit of time, and I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 1>the time is finally here. But Ann, how are we

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<v Speaker 1>doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>Wonderful? The Pleasure's mind I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 1>That you called absolutely. I mean it is. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a lot to this one. But Anne,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go ahead and let you fill in

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<v Speaker 1>the details about what you would like the audience to

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<v Speaker 1>know about your background, if anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So the topic is bigfoot obviously or things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>high strangeness, and so from a very early age. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in my I'm about fifty three, but in the early

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<v Speaker 2>seventies I had my first experience. I'm from the Pacific Northwest,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have lived in other places. Some of those

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<v Speaker 2>events occurred in other places too, and I can get

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<v Speaker 2>into those if that's where we go. I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>on a farm, a conventional family, and you know a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of religion. There definite belief in God and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, our savior in Jesus Christ, things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But also there was a rift in the family. My

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<v Speaker 2>parents divorced, and then after that time, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there was there was movements. So it's not I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want it to be portrayed that it always was conventional,

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<v Speaker 2>because you'll see that that my story takes me to

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<v Speaker 2>different places too, because I've had to scramble as a

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<v Speaker 2>single mom, myself and work, and you know, so I've

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<v Speaker 2>had to travel a lot. So that's that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>leads into why there are situations that have happened it

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<v Speaker 2>or occurred in different parts of the country. But leading

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<v Speaker 2>back to I think it was like nineteen seventy four,

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<v Speaker 2>my dad and his cousin we were in We were

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<v Speaker 2>north of Spokane, Washington State. It was in Washington State,

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<v Speaker 2>that's northeast Washington, and we were in Spokane. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>vividly at least see seeing the thing. My cousin, my

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<v Speaker 2>second cousin, was babysitting because my dad and his cousin.

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<v Speaker 2>His cousin was in law school and my mom and

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<v Speaker 2>my dad were friends with you know, they used to

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<v Speaker 2>go do things together, and so his oldest daughter would

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<v Speaker 2>babysit us. Well, there was four or five kids, and

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<v Speaker 2>we were all about the same age. I was, I

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<v Speaker 2>think the youngest. Maybe there might have been one younger

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<v Speaker 2>than me, but I was about four. We were in

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<v Speaker 2>the yard playing making mudpies and we had a hose

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<v Speaker 2>out there, I remember, and it was on the South

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<v Speaker 2>Hill and Spokane. But this is back before there was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of development and so there was more trees

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<v Speaker 2>in the back behind and forested areas, and so we

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<v Speaker 2>were in the backyard playing and there was a big

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<v Speaker 2>tree to my left, and I was facing say north,

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<v Speaker 2>because the house was also to the west of me,

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<v Speaker 2>which was on my left. And then there was a big,

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<v Speaker 2>huge tree, like a tamarack, because you know, Pacific Northwest

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<v Speaker 2>is well known for those, even in backyards. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we had this big mud you know, blog

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever we were playing in and then the kids

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<v Speaker 2>all ran in, so they ran inside, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>remember lagging behind because I wanted to still make mudpies.

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<v Speaker 2>I was having a grand old time and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to go in, so I stayed out. And that

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<v Speaker 2>was always curious to me because it was like a

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<v Speaker 2>point of separation that's talked about. The kids went inside,

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<v Speaker 2>I was alone, and I'm sitting there making these mudpies,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember seeing something huge behind the tree. It

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<v Speaker 2>like slid up behind the tree, and I just saw

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<v Speaker 2>it like peripherally, and then it leaned out, and I

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<v Speaker 2>remember seeing these huge eyes. It was huge. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it must have been, I don't know because I was

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<v Speaker 2>so young, but it was very large and ominous, and

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<v Speaker 2>I remember experiencing its presence like it was formidable. It

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<v Speaker 2>was scary. I was literally terrified, and it didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't it like looked at me like very intense intent,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just took off running into the house. Well

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<v Speaker 2>I had to run past it, but I did like

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, I curved around, you know, I swung

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<v Speaker 2>wide and I got inside, and I had wet my pants,

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<v Speaker 2>and I may have like done more than that, because

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I got in trouble by the parents because

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't have a change of clothes for me, and

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<v Speaker 2>that it became about that. Like I never got that

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<v Speaker 2>part out to them, that there had been you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not that I was very you know, vocal at the

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<v Speaker 2>age of four, but I know that later on we

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<v Speaker 2>had talked about it. My family's well aware that it happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and my dad said, well, maybe it was teenagers or something.

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<v Speaker 2>But he had his own experience when he was ten

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<v Speaker 2>sixty miles north of Spokane when he was hunting, because

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<v Speaker 2>back then they used to hunt really young, back in

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<v Speaker 2>the fifties or sixties whenever it was, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's more open to these sorts of things than you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe another parent or something. But my entire family

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<v Speaker 2>knew that I had experienced this thing because I'd talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it off and on after that, and then also

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<v Speaker 2>after that I experienced, like right away it was really weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I would go to bed and my bed would shake,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I would get these impressions like it was

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<v Speaker 2>like mine speak, but it was like in unison there

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<v Speaker 2>was more than one voice, and it would be like,

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to get you, just like this chanting

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<v Speaker 2>sort of stuff. It was so bizarre, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>go into my parents' bedroom, I remember, and tell him,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I can't get rid of that. Oh it's your subconscious.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know, it'll be okay, It'll be okay. And

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<v Speaker 2>then at the age of eight, I was baptized, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I had just noticed that I had thought I'd

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<v Speaker 2>grow out of it, But looking back later, I realized

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<v Speaker 2>that that was around the time that that I never

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<v Speaker 2>had those those voices at night. So it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 2>a paranoid sort of schizoid sort of you know event

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<v Speaker 2>or anything like that. It wasn't like that sort of

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<v Speaker 2>development because it would only happen at night, and it

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<v Speaker 2>would only happen when I was, you know, alone, So

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like you know, I was hearing these these

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<v Speaker 2>voices or something. It's when I was alone at night

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<v Speaker 2>in my bed, and then the bed would shake, and

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<v Speaker 2>my dreams were terrible. I mean it would be like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'd have dreams that big hairy creatures were

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<v Speaker 2>coming after me, and and that you know, I would

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<v Speaker 2>freeze in the yard and I would drag my legs

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<v Speaker 2>to the house or I had to protect my little

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<v Speaker 2>kittens or something, and and you know, I would be

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<v Speaker 2>putting up these cardboard walls because you know, the creatures

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<v Speaker 2>would be coming through the walls. It was just always

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<v Speaker 2>really night tears and things like that. And then, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, when I got baptized, that sort of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>went away. The night terrors, that sleep paralysis still came

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<v Speaker 2>back off and on, but the that mind speaks stuff

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<v Speaker 2>all went away. And I truly do believe that we

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<v Speaker 2>have power in that sort of thing. So that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of why I led into the whole. You know that

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<v Speaker 2>there was a religious breadthground there and some people don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe that sort of thing. But just whatever your flavor is,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, that was mine and it worked and

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<v Speaker 2>it worked for me at least that's that's my that's

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<v Speaker 2>how I feel about it. And then later on, as

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<v Speaker 2>time went on, some weird stuff happened, like there was

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<v Speaker 2>another incident in Spokan, but it wasn't a it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a bigfoot I I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>Like and before we get into that, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>listeners are hating me right now, but we already talked before,

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<v Speaker 1>guys that we're gonna there's going to be kind of

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<v Speaker 1>camp outs through this conversation because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>just skip over what you just shared. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot that you just shared, right, and maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>could chat about that for a little bit, Okay, Okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was back when you were four that you

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<v Speaker 1>had your first visual when you think for five, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And when you think of that time your memory that

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<v Speaker 1>you have, do you remember as it was this big

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<v Speaker 1>like ape type creature or it was a big, like

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<v Speaker 1>weird looking human type creature or is there anything like

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<v Speaker 1>that in your mind?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's the confusion because I wasn't sure that

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<v Speaker 2>it was like a bigfoot at the time, because it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like a big, hairy ape, but it was if

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<v Speaker 2>you could imagine the outline of one. You could still

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<v Speaker 2>see its eyes and things like that. It was still there, intangible,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was like I was like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how to the only other. I mean, I've seen one

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<v Speaker 2>since and it's not it's the same thing. But this

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<v Speaker 2>was more like a like a creature. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>was more like so hard to explain. I heard it

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<v Speaker 2>explained one time on another podcast where this woman had

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<v Speaker 2>come up through Wyoming and she said that she saw

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<v Speaker 2>one that was stretched across the highway and it smiled

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<v Speaker 2>at her, had a big mouth, you know. But she

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<v Speaker 2>said it was like a weird color, like cream or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. I know that sounds weird, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>what it was like. It wasn't your traditional you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like I don't remember so much like the

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<v Speaker 2>hair or fur as I do that it was just

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<v Speaker 2>this huge head and face staring at me. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the body out of the corner of my

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<v Speaker 2>eye slide up behind the tree. But it was huge.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when it came out the front part of

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<v Speaker 2>the tree, its eyes must have been I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>must have been as big as baseballs. I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I was four or five, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but big, huge mouth huge.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask you about it, So it

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<v Speaker 1>was it kind of a drawn out mouth or do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember any specifics about the mouth? I think it smiled, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>were you able to see teeth when I smiled? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>huh uh? Interesting? And do you remember any other details

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<v Speaker 1>of the face, like maybe skin color?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, I don't. What's got my my memory kind

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<v Speaker 2>of messed up is that I saw it crawl behind

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<v Speaker 2>the tree up to the tree, and when it did that,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a weird thing. It was a weird, not

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<v Speaker 2>normal thing. The way it kind of crept up, like

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of glided up a little bit but was

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<v Speaker 2>And so the whole that part of it and then

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<v Speaker 2>it leaning out. The eyes were big, the mouth and

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<v Speaker 2>why I don't know why it didn't grab me like

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<v Speaker 2>that should have come next.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask you, you know, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>run past.

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<v Speaker 2>I was fight or fight, I had no nothing. As

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<v Speaker 2>soon as as soon as I saw it was like

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<v Speaker 2>I got that whatever adrenaline dump and was gone. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>to freeze. Yeah, it triggered me to shoot out of there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't I just remember just being it just

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<v Speaker 1>How soon after that did the hearing the voices and

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<v Speaker 2>I would have to say right away. I mean, because

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<v Speaker 2>my memories go back to that point, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>like four or five, right, but I have memories back

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<v Speaker 2>to three, like when my mom brought home my little brother,

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<v Speaker 2>who's three years younger than me. I remember when she

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<v Speaker 2>brought him home, But I don't remember mind speaker anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that. And it wasn't like mine speak, like it

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<v Speaker 2>really wasn't having a communication with me. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>somehow these voices and there was numerous voices were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to scare me and they were chanting, and it's just crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nothing that I heard, Like our house was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>no one else heard it. Our house was very My

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<v Speaker 2>dad's very protective. He's a marine veteran, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>just there's just no way that it was coming from

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere else other than what was inside of me. And

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it was just me and my subconscious, but there

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<v Speaker 2>was a correlation, is all I'm saying. I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>certainly I tied it together, and maybe it was a

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<v Speaker 2>trauma response. Maybe maybe it was a trauma response. And

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe you know, just being baptized after that made

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<v Speaker 2>me feel secure and safe, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, absolutely the dreams that you would have

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<v Speaker 1>where that you said the big hair creatures would be

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<v Speaker 1>coming after you, Yes, did they look the same as

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<v Speaker 1>what you saw.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes they were represented as apes, sometimes they were represented

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<v Speaker 2>as bears. But I have actually had dreams of giants

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<v Speaker 2>before I had my most recent sighting.

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<v Speaker 1>Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've had I've had dreams that I was up

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<v Speaker 2>on our property up north of Spokane and that there

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<v Speaker 2>was a big flood and then they were like swinging

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<v Speaker 2>down and like they weren't good, but it was like

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of natural disaster and they were coming around

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<v Speaker 2>and they were formidable again, you know, but they were

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<v Speaker 2>at that point like Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and this is a dream you had around the

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<v Speaker 1>same time you said that was later in life, No.

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<v Speaker 2>Later later, they've just been ongoing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh you've had ongoing dreams like oh yeah really yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So the the the voices stopped after you got baptized,

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<v Speaker 1>but the dreams did not. M No, No, really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>And that could just be my own fears, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I mean obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>So M well, yeah that I just wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that for for a little bit. Oh actually there

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<v Speaker 1>were a few more. So the house that this happened around.

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<v Speaker 1>How close was your closest neighbor at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>Behind us? I'm not sure because because we were up

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<v Speaker 2>on the south like right now, it would it's just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's all developed. But I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>just a regular neighborhood where there was forest in the back,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>What I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It came in through the back. It came in through

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<v Speaker 2>the back, for sure, for sure it did, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, way it traveled. So but it was

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<v Speaker 2>still a populated area. You know, you didn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>go very far to go to the bing Crosby Theater

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<v Speaker 2>down the hill, you know, but it was up high

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<v Speaker 2>on the south hill a bit. But it was just

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<v Speaker 2>way back then. It just wasn't as developed. You didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have your nice model homes that are up there now.

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<v Speaker 2>Behind there was just a lot of open area.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think your parents believed you at all when

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<v Speaker 1>you would tell them of what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because my dad has had situations like like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>when he was ten, he was he was hunting in

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<v Speaker 2>a swamp on our property and he said he could

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<v Speaker 2>fill a presence in there, and it scared him and

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<v Speaker 2>he left. He was hunting a deer in there in

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<v Speaker 2>the swamp. It was a big area, and I remember

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<v Speaker 2>riding horses by there before I even knew about what

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<v Speaker 2>happened to him. But you know, I rode horses when

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<v Speaker 2>I was a kid, and I would always look at

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<v Speaker 2>that tree line and think that Native Americans were in

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<v Speaker 2>there watching me or something, because we Native Americans used

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<v Speaker 2>to battle on those grounds, you know. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it was Native American spirits that were looking at me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it might have been something else, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So you said, there's same same property.

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<v Speaker 2>It not is what I saw in Spokane. This this

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<v Speaker 2>is a different property where just you know, there's just

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of high strangeness in Washington State in general

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<v Speaker 2>and Idaho.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, very interesting. I mean, you're right, it did

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<v Speaker 1>start right off the bat for you. But you're free

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<v Speaker 1>to definitely let's let's continue with with what happens next.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, and I mean I think that just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of opened me up to things. You know, I just

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<v Speaker 2>think that I knew it probably traumatized me greatly. It's

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<v Speaker 2>more than anything. And I just I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>put that out there that you know, people that are

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<v Speaker 2>running around looking for bigfoot situations and things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>they're unclean. I don't believe they're clean spirits. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>seem to you know, experience you know, joy or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>love or you know whatever. I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't get that close to them, but they certainly

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<v Speaker 2>do like to instill fear upon you and terror, and

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<v Speaker 2>they seem to have a little bit of jealousy too,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'll get into that. They seem to compete or

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<v Speaker 2>have a little bit of ego, and to me, that's

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, those are all those wrong emotions that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that seems to be what they function on.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I just don't think that they're I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think they're I don't think they're beneficial to humans. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we spend way too much time thinking about them,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think people pursue them. Right now, there's they're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a novelty. People make money off of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you truly are experiencing them like how I

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<v Speaker 2>experience them, and they play games, they manipulate and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>get into that, but they can make you sick like

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<v Speaker 2>I've been sick. I have been sick for days after

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<v Speaker 2>being out in the woods with my dogs after having

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<v Speaker 2>one of them call out my dog's name, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. And I've been around them hearing

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<v Speaker 2>the weird noises and stuff, you know, like I'll get

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<v Speaker 2>sick after that, and that's just not good. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>good for you. But so just moving on and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>try not to. But there's been some other weirdness that

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<v Speaker 2>I've experienced, but I'll try to move forward. When I

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<v Speaker 2>moved to Oklahoma, I lived for a couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>in Tulsa Broken Arrow, and I would run to the

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<v Speaker 2>like the come and go or the gas station in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning to exercise, and then I would run back

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<v Speaker 2>and I would have to run through these fields. And

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<v Speaker 2>this one field had a hay the round hay bills,

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<v Speaker 2>and it also had like a culvert area in there,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there was a golf course close to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But sometimes when I would come home, I would just

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<v Speaker 2>know there, like there was a dark thing that was

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<v Speaker 2>standing by that that hey bill, and I would never

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<v Speaker 2>look straight at it, you know. I kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>knew not to do that from the time I was

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<v Speaker 2>a little little one and that happened. I knew not

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<v Speaker 2>to look because I didn't want to know. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to know what I was looking at, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would just go by. But then there was some violent

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<v Speaker 2>tree shake that was going on in the mornings, and

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<v Speaker 2>so then I quit going at dark. I'd wait till

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<v Speaker 2>the light came out and so that there was more

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<v Speaker 2>humans around. Because one time I had gone around, I

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<v Speaker 2>had routed around. I wanted to extend how far I

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<v Speaker 2>was running. I was probably late thirties, early forties, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess around the time, and just trying to get more exercise.

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<v Speaker 2>So I extended my route and I've smelt the smell

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<v Speaker 2>got the formidable weirdness, weird feeling, you know, whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that the tree shaking, I hadn't invested bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't quite what it is now right now, there's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a hysteria on it, but it was more on

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<v Speaker 2>the down low. You didn't really talk about it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that there was something like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean just because I had experienced it early in life.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes there's things that just aren't explainable. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I remember one time on my way back, I saw

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<v Speaker 2>a print. It was a huge, huge, bare print, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was in the mud because that was a field

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<v Speaker 2>that they had been, you know, obviously there was some

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<v Speaker 2>Timothy Hay or something they had planted in it. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't have had bells of Hay in it, but

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<v Speaker 2>it had rained, and there was this big, huge footprint.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I looked around and there was no other footprints.

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<v Speaker 2>And so me not knowing like how it goes. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew what I saw when I was little, but

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that they can just have a print

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<v Speaker 2>and then go away, like you can see just one

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<v Speaker 2>print and then there's no prints, no other prints, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I saw. I saw one print and then

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<v Speaker 2>there was no other prince, and so I discounted it

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<v Speaker 2>because I thought, well, there's no other print, so that's

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<v Speaker 2>not a big foot. So I'll check that off. And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, now hearing other people say yeah, there was

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<v Speaker 2>just one print and then it's like it dissipated or

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<v Speaker 2>went away, now I would know like, oh, well, that

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<v Speaker 2>was legitimately a footprint. I mean, that's legitimately a bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just kind of discounted it. I moved to

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<v Speaker 2>North Idaho. I had my families from North Idaho Northeast Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>I moved to North Idaho and I started going on

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a community. It's a small community, and we

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<v Speaker 2>are just surrounded by mountains. I mean there's just hardly

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<v Speaker 2>any flat land at all. And I started going on

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<v Speaker 2>the trail on my bike with my dog, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a German shepherd, and started experiencing really strange stuff. The

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<v Speaker 2>tree the violent tree shaking to where it couldn't just

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<v Speaker 2>be something shaking the trees, like every leaf is shaking.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really weird in broad daylight. Just different stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that I was experiencing. And then there's some real weirdness

420
00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:50.000
<v Speaker 2>to this area. But I'm going to go into my

421
00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:54.319
<v Speaker 2>elks story. This happened in twenty nineteen. In twenty twenty,

422
00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:56.720
<v Speaker 2>My family's well aware of it. My manager at work

423
00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:01.079
<v Speaker 2>heard about it that morning. The jam that works where

424
00:25:01.079 --> 00:25:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I worked, had had a situation back when he was five,

425
00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:09.119
<v Speaker 2>behind one of our famous restaurants here along the river.

426
00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:13.359
<v Speaker 2>He had gone up to the chicken coop behind their

427
00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:16.480
<v Speaker 2>house or behind the restaurant because they had a house

428
00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:19.480
<v Speaker 2>up there and they had a bear hanging that they

429
00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:23.160
<v Speaker 2>had just gutted and killed and it was hanging in

430
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:25.839
<v Speaker 2>the tree. And he said that he watched a big

431
00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:31.160
<v Speaker 2>foot walk across the chicken it actually upright step over

432
00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:35.599
<v Speaker 2>the chicken like wire, because it had been out there

433
00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:39.279
<v Speaker 2>investigating that bear hanging there. And so, and this is

434
00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:42.039
<v Speaker 2>a common theme. You know, you'll talk to people who

435
00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:44.880
<v Speaker 2>hunt and they hang, they'll hang different stuff and then

436
00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:49.160
<v Speaker 2>they'll get slaps on there on their houses and things

437
00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:52.799
<v Speaker 2>like that. So you know, it's kind of talked about

438
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:56.200
<v Speaker 2>amongst certain people that and then you know, maybe maybe

439
00:25:56.200 --> 00:26:01.119
<v Speaker 2>not others, I don't know, but anyhow, so morning, it

440
00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:04.200
<v Speaker 2>was in twenty nineteen or twenty twenty, it was December

441
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:08.039
<v Speaker 2>or January. It was snowing out. Well, actually I got

442
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:09.640
<v Speaker 2>to go to the night before because this is going

443
00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:13.960
<v Speaker 2>to explain how these things think. They're very, very manipulative.

444
00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:18.680
<v Speaker 2>So I go out. I've got my dog. She loves

445
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:22.880
<v Speaker 2>these tennis pen tennis balls that are like greenish yellow

446
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:25.400
<v Speaker 2>that you buy Ace hardware. You open the can, three

447
00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:27.720
<v Speaker 2>come out, you know, and then I have a ball

448
00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:31.640
<v Speaker 2>launch And so I launched the ball down the hill

449
00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:33.839
<v Speaker 2>because then she has to run up the hill and

450
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:36.599
<v Speaker 2>she gets more exercise out of it quickly, so you know,

451
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:39.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of make her do more work, right, So

452
00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:42.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing the ball launching. This is like, oh, probably

453
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:46.920
<v Speaker 2>about six o'clock at night, maybe earlier. I guess it

454
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:50.319
<v Speaker 2>would be dark. So it was earlier because it was

455
00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>that time of year. So I don't know it was

456
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:55.160
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was the night before, but it wasn't

457
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:58.640
<v Speaker 2>dark out. The herd had come in. The elk herd

458
00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:03.400
<v Speaker 2>had come. They come across from the north, they cross

459
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:05.680
<v Speaker 2>the highway and they come up and then they go

460
00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:10.079
<v Speaker 2>up onto the southern mountains and so they're just very

461
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:12.880
<v Speaker 2>it's very common to see them. You know, they'll they'll

462
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:16.200
<v Speaker 2>migrate over, but they're they're just really doing their like

463
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:20.559
<v Speaker 2>they're sticking together, the cows and the calves. So as

464
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:24.240
<v Speaker 2>these were first year calves and they were all following

465
00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:28.440
<v Speaker 2>their moms. And there's like different tiers levels of ground

466
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:31.480
<v Speaker 2>that they go on, and they follow these little wildlife trails,

467
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:33.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, and you can watch them where I'm at,

468
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:35.000
<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to stay where I'm at because

469
00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:36.720
<v Speaker 2>I've been going there a long time and I don't

470
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:39.519
<v Speaker 2>want to I just don't want to call it out.

471
00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:42.720
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, so they cross over in front of me

472
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.920
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sitting there throwing this launching this ball with

473
00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:49.640
<v Speaker 2>my dog and I'm yelling at her and not not mean,

474
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.440
<v Speaker 2>but you know, we're having a good time. And the

475
00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:59.240
<v Speaker 2>cows turn with their antenna ears, you know that you

476
00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:00.640
<v Speaker 2>could tell their face and you know, they got their

477
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:02.400
<v Speaker 2>ears out there, just kind of curious as to what

478
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:04.519
<v Speaker 2>the heck we're doing because that dog keeps running after

479
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.440
<v Speaker 2>the ball and running up the hill and it was

480
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:10.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of entertaining. Well, they're babies. Two of the babies

481
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:14.160
<v Speaker 2>start jumping around and playing. I mean, it was almost

482
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:16.319
<v Speaker 2>like Rich and Rudolph and Reindeer gave it it was

483
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:20.200
<v Speaker 2>so cute, you know, because the dog was jumping around

484
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:24.079
<v Speaker 2>and excited, and so the little calves. It was they

485
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:26.000
<v Speaker 2>were far away, but they could still see and I

486
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:28.039
<v Speaker 2>could see them and they're jumping around. I thought, that

487
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:32.559
<v Speaker 2>is the most adorable thing ever, you know, because I

488
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:36.160
<v Speaker 2>had incited like this joyful play in them, or I hadn't,

489
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:39.079
<v Speaker 2>my dog had, but you know, us, we together had

490
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:42.200
<v Speaker 2>done that, and so I thought, wow, what a memory.

491
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:44.759
<v Speaker 2>So I posted on social media, you know, because it

492
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:46.759
<v Speaker 2>was so exciting for me. I was like, oh, these

493
00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:49.880
<v Speaker 2>calves were playing. It was so cute, you know, and

494
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:54.519
<v Speaker 2>just that they had responded like that. And then the

495
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.960
<v Speaker 2>next morning I went out because I wanted I had

496
00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:59.240
<v Speaker 2>to go to work, and I wanted to take her

497
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 2>out because she was home all day long, and I

498
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.599
<v Speaker 2>took her out early. It was about seven am, and

499
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I hear this cow elk screaming, and she's to my north. Well,

500
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:15.720
<v Speaker 2>these cows last the night before had been to my

501
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:17.920
<v Speaker 2>south because they had crossed up and over the road.

502
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>So this cow elk is just bellowing. She's screaming her

503
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 2>head off, and they only do that if something's taken

504
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:29.559
<v Speaker 2>their baby, like she was. She wouldn't shut up. It

505
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.480
<v Speaker 2>was super loud. The other cows had crossed over, and

506
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.279
<v Speaker 2>they were doing it quickly, so they weren't like casually walking.

507
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:39.400
<v Speaker 2>So there was something down there and I thought it

508
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 2>might be a coyote or something, you know, and I

509
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:45.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't know, but it was kind of disturbing because they

510
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.920
<v Speaker 2>had just been playing and I didn't know if it

511
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:50.759
<v Speaker 2>was one of those cows or not. You know, not

512
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:52.559
<v Speaker 2>to get too attached or anything, but you know, that

513
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:57.039
<v Speaker 2>would have been a bummer. Anyways, So I'm sitting there

514
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.359
<v Speaker 2>and I'm watching. I'm trying to see where the cow

515
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:03.200
<v Speaker 2>is screaming from, and I couldn't see it. But then

516
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:07.799
<v Speaker 2>there's these two big hills, and then there's a bridge

517
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:14.920
<v Speaker 2>that's on a trail, and this upright figure walks right

518
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:18.799
<v Speaker 2>across that bridge in between the two hills. And this is,

519
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, pretty far away. It's about maybe an eighth

520
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:23.599
<v Speaker 2>of a mile, maybe a quarter of a mile. I

521
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.880
<v Speaker 2>can't really measure it. I've shown my like kids and

522
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.200
<v Speaker 2>stuff and where it's at and on a map and stuff,

523
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.240
<v Speaker 2>but I can't really measure it. But it's close enough

524
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:36.920
<v Speaker 2>to where I could see an upright figure walk across.

525
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't distinguish if it was a man or not.

526
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:43.240
<v Speaker 2>But it was a really tall, upright thing.

527
00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?

528
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:04.480
<v Speaker 2>And in the back of my mind, I thought, where's

529
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.839
<v Speaker 2>the baby calf? It wasn't holding it, so it was

530
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.079
<v Speaker 2>not a bigfoot. I don't know why I thought that.

531
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know why I thought it was a bigfoot,

532
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:16.640
<v Speaker 2>probably because she's screaming her head off and why would

533
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.119
<v Speaker 2>there be a human so close to her, because it

534
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:21.359
<v Speaker 2>was coming from that area, and I was like, this

535
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>is so weird, this is so bizarre. I didn't see

536
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:27.160
<v Speaker 2>clothes on it because it crossed over that so quickly.

537
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:32.279
<v Speaker 2>But I couldn't get a gauge on I don't know,

538
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:36.160
<v Speaker 2>like it was right beyond my it wasn't close enough

539
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:37.799
<v Speaker 2>to me to where I could get a gauge, And

540
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:40.440
<v Speaker 2>it went so quickly that I couldn't figure out what

541
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:43.240
<v Speaker 2>it was, but I knew that it was big, and

542
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 2>so I got in my car and with my dog

543
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:50.839
<v Speaker 2>and I drove down and through the field where you

544
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:54.599
<v Speaker 2>would have to see that person walking, and it's for

545
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:57.119
<v Speaker 2>like half a mile and then half a mile the

546
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>other way. There's no way in the amount of time

547
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.480
<v Speaker 2>that I raced down there that that person could be gone.

548
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:06.799
<v Speaker 2>Within that period of time. You would still see them

549
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:10.359
<v Speaker 2>walking into town or away from town either way. Right,

550
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I was outside of town, but you would have to

551
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>see them on that trail because that trail goes for

552
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.000
<v Speaker 2>miles and it's open. And so I went down there

553
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:24.160
<v Speaker 2>and I crept down to the bank, and at that point,

554
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:26.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm not thinking it's bigfoot. I'm thinking I just need

555
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:28.599
<v Speaker 2>to see a guy. I just need to see a person.

556
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:32.119
<v Speaker 2>And I'm with my dog and there's no one there,

557
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:35.039
<v Speaker 2>and I go and I look for any footprints. There's

558
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.599
<v Speaker 2>nothing there. There was nothing there. It was snowing, there

559
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:43.240
<v Speaker 2>was snow out, so there should be prints unless he

560
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:46.799
<v Speaker 2>was had stopped and hid up somewhere. I mean, you

561
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.039
<v Speaker 2>just you would see him. There was a I could

562
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 2>see back down to the bridge that he was on,

563
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:54.960
<v Speaker 2>but there was no print. So something weird was going on.

564
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:59.279
<v Speaker 2>And so I went back up towards my car because

565
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to take this in because you know, when

566
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:03.319
<v Speaker 2>something like this happens, you're kind of you got you

567
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:07.400
<v Speaker 2>have cognitive dissonance. You're like, Okay, don't overthink this. This

568
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:09.799
<v Speaker 2>is like what is this? Like? You know what I mean,

569
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:13.319
<v Speaker 2>It's just it was weird all of its sudden. I

570
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:18.880
<v Speaker 2>see this elk come running at me from two hills away.

571
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 2>She comes barreling towards me, and then she disappears. Well

572
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.000
<v Speaker 2>that's because she went down. And then she came up

573
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:28.720
<v Speaker 2>the other hill closer to me, and she's coming right

574
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>at me, and she gets to be about fifty feet

575
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:34.759
<v Speaker 2>away from me. I can see the steam in her nostrils.

576
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:39.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm all we have is like some weeds between us,

577
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:41.119
<v Speaker 2>but they have no leaves on them, so like they're

578
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:46.440
<v Speaker 2>basically just sticks. I have nothing to protect myself, and

579
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:49.119
<v Speaker 2>my dog's not chasing her, and I don't understand what's

580
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:53.000
<v Speaker 2>going on, right, I don't understand, Like I don't want

581
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:56.240
<v Speaker 2>my dog to chase her, but I'm like going to

582
00:33:56.319 --> 00:34:00.920
<v Speaker 2>get trampled. And so then in my mind I'm thinking, okay,

583
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:04.559
<v Speaker 2>is this a bull? And then I'm like, wait, bulls

584
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:09.880
<v Speaker 2>don't lose their antlers until like April. This is December, January,

585
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 2>whatever it was. It was winter, and so I'm like,

586
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.760
<v Speaker 2>this is a cow. And so she looks, she looks

587
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.280
<v Speaker 2>at me. She just keeps staring at me, staring at me,

588
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:21.039
<v Speaker 2>trying to like assess who I was or what I was.

589
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.679
<v Speaker 2>And then she looks back at my dog behind me,

590
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:30.800
<v Speaker 2>and then she turns back and chases off to the

591
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:35.880
<v Speaker 2>to the south, and just and just like, she shoots

592
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:39.800
<v Speaker 2>over to the to the south, not where she had

593
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:41.679
<v Speaker 2>come from, but where the other ones were going. She

594
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.679
<v Speaker 2>was probably gonna meet up with them or whatever. And

595
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm just sitting there scratching my head like I almost died.

596
00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:49.800
<v Speaker 2>She almost trampled me. And then I thought, why would

597
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:54.239
<v Speaker 2>she trample me? Why was she after me? Why did

598
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:56.880
<v Speaker 2>she see an upright person walking and come after me?

599
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 2>What grabbed your baby? And I mean, this is all true.

600
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:03.679
<v Speaker 2>I would take a light detector. I swear to you,

601
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:05.519
<v Speaker 2>this is all true. This all happened, and she was

602
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:10.639
<v Speaker 2>after me. But and I saw an upright thing walk

603
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:13.760
<v Speaker 2>across the bridge, but I never saw the calf. But

604
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:16.239
<v Speaker 2>I will say this, and I have video of this.

605
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Every year or thereafter, a cow will stand in that place,

606
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:24.599
<v Speaker 2>right around there, waiting for a baby, like babies are

607
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>getting taken, like I don't know if it's you know,

608
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:29.800
<v Speaker 2>there's coyotes and there's bear there too, you know what

609
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:35.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean. But it was a mother that her baby

610
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.519
<v Speaker 2>had gotten taken from her. And now this is going

611
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:42.719
<v Speaker 2>to sound really weird, but I went to where Can.

612
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I told my manager about it, and he was like,

613
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:46.920
<v Speaker 2>you got really lucky, and I know what that sounds like.

614
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:48.760
<v Speaker 2>I had to rescue a baby calf that was cut,

615
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, because they hunt around here. This is just

616
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:53.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of the way it is. And he goes, you

617
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:55.480
<v Speaker 2>were really fortunate to see that, you know, and he

618
00:35:55.960 --> 00:36:01.400
<v Speaker 2>believed me, I think, but he was nice about it.

619
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.039
<v Speaker 2>But other people at work that had seen things like

620
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:07.280
<v Speaker 2>this also came up with their stories, like the one

621
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.199
<v Speaker 2>that I told you that they hung a bear and

622
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:11.800
<v Speaker 2>he had seen it, you know what I mean. So

623
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm not embarrassed to tell the story. The freakiest part

624
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:18.440
<v Speaker 2>about it is what's the point of it, right, Well,

625
00:36:18.519 --> 00:36:21.159
<v Speaker 2>the point of it that bigfoot had seen me the

626
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:26.440
<v Speaker 2>night before and had seen those babies celebrating. And I

627
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:29.760
<v Speaker 2>swear to you, I just got this feeling as soon

628
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:32.760
<v Speaker 2>as all this went down, that that bigfoot was punishing

629
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:35.920
<v Speaker 2>me because I cared.

630
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>H That's really interesting.

631
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:45.519
<v Speaker 2>And that's the part, you know, isn't that weird.

632
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:49.519
<v Speaker 1>That it is a very that's unlike anything I've ever heard.

633
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:54.280
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, you're saying multiple other people have experienced

634
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>similar things in the same area.

635
00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, not like that, but they've seen them, you know,

636
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:06.639
<v Speaker 2>like they've seen them up closer. But yes, they've they're

637
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:10.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I mean out where I am. After that,

638
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:14.639
<v Speaker 2>there was I have pictures of it, and I posted

639
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:16.840
<v Speaker 2>on Facebook because I wanted to know about some of

640
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.920
<v Speaker 2>the local hikers. They go hiking everywhere, whant to see

641
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>if they'd ever seen these bones. They were laid out.

642
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:27.679
<v Speaker 2>There was moose, el deer all lined up like different

643
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:31.800
<v Speaker 2>ages of bones. I have the pictures. I mean, I

644
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:34.679
<v Speaker 2>have receipts for stuff. Right when I experienced stuff, I

645
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:38.360
<v Speaker 2>take pictures. I have Like a moose liver was left

646
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:41.400
<v Speaker 2>for me last year. I called fishing game because it

647
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:43.360
<v Speaker 2>would have been approaching incident. It was in the summer.

648
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:48.119
<v Speaker 2>They're like, we don't know, like why just deliver you

649
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:49.960
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? It was left where my car parked.

650
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I don't get that.

651
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:58.559
<v Speaker 2>Why you're telling me totally man. I mean, it wasn't

652
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:02.840
<v Speaker 2>a dumping. It wasn't any thing dumping my dogs. This

653
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:05.840
<v Speaker 2>sounds kind of silly, but my dog's balls disappear the

654
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:08.599
<v Speaker 2>tennis balls, and they'll pop up in the same place,

655
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:15.039
<v Speaker 2>like just weird mind games, like really weird mind games.

656
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:17.880
<v Speaker 2>And I was hiking one day and I have I

657
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:22.679
<v Speaker 2>have the the text message my roommate. I had taken

658
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:24.639
<v Speaker 2>her out like a couple of days before to where

659
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:27.519
<v Speaker 2>I was hiking, and this is around where this all

660
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 2>went on, you know, with this with this cow elp,

661
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:36.360
<v Speaker 2>and I took my dog. I had a little i'd

662
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.440
<v Speaker 2>have a little shit so and the German shepherd at

663
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:40.239
<v Speaker 2>this time, because I'd gotten the shit to my dad,

664
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:45.599
<v Speaker 2>brought her to me as a rescue. And anyways, so

665
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:49.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm hiking. Three days I took her hiking, the roommate,

666
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.639
<v Speaker 2>and then three days later I went hiking alone. And

667
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I remember I took a picture of this thing and

668
00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:59.719
<v Speaker 2>I said, was this there when we were hiking? And

669
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:02.119
<v Speaker 2>she's like, yeah, that was there. And then we went

670
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:07.320
<v Speaker 2>up this hill towards the mountain and I hear this.

671
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:10.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say my dog's name because people

672
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:14.280
<v Speaker 2>know me, but it's a two syllable name and it's

673
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:20.159
<v Speaker 2>very unique. It's German. And I hear that, and then

674
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:24.199
<v Speaker 2>my dog did too, and it was twice. We hear

675
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.960
<v Speaker 2>this twice, and it's in my roommate's voice, and I'm like, gosh,

676
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:30.599
<v Speaker 2>she came out here. I thought I was going to

677
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:32.480
<v Speaker 2>have privacy. You know. I'm kind of being kind of

678
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:36.280
<v Speaker 2>like a brat about it, right because I'm thinking, ah,

679
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:37.920
<v Speaker 2>she followed me out here. I thought she was going

680
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:39.400
<v Speaker 2>down by the river. I wanted some time. No, you

681
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:42.119
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. She knows my hike spot and

682
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:46.199
<v Speaker 2>she's coming without, you know. And so I texted her,

683
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I said, are you here? She goes, No, I'm taking

684
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.000
<v Speaker 2>a shower. I'm back at the house. And I said,

685
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:55.639
<v Speaker 2>I just heard you yell, and I have the text messages.

686
00:39:56.199 --> 00:40:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I said, I heard you yell my dog's name, you know.

687
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:03.920
<v Speaker 2>And I said her name, and she goes. I believe you,

688
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:06.199
<v Speaker 2>she goes, but I swear to you, he goes. I

689
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:07.760
<v Speaker 2>was down at the river. Look, these are the pictures.

690
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:09.039
<v Speaker 2>I took them here at the house right now. She

691
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:12.719
<v Speaker 2>took a picture, you know, and I was like, oh

692
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:17.159
<v Speaker 2>my gosh. My dog even heard it and perked up

693
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:19.440
<v Speaker 2>and was like we were confused as to what to

694
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:22.000
<v Speaker 2>do next. We thought it was her. Her name was Kristin.

695
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:25.280
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was Kristin because it was in her

696
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:31.800
<v Speaker 2>voice and there was nobody around, do you know what

697
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:32.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

698
00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:38.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's extremely strange and very unsettling. Are there a

699
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:44.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of like missing person cases in that area? Yeah, okay,

700
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:48.039
<v Speaker 1>and probably we don't want to go into names for

701
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:50.280
<v Speaker 1>respect and also for privacy.

702
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, there's just high weirdness. You know, there's some

703
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:57.760
<v Speaker 2>high weirdness, and then other people who are aren't connected

704
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.760
<v Speaker 2>to it, or who don't aren't sensitive to it, would

705
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.679
<v Speaker 2>say no, you know, because they don't get out or

706
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:07.199
<v Speaker 2>they don't you know. I mean, it's just anywhere you go,

707
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:10.800
<v Speaker 2>there is especially high weirdness here. I think because of

708
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:13.800
<v Speaker 2>the mountains that would be the correlation. I'd say there's

709
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:17.079
<v Speaker 2>more high weirdness here than there was where I grew up,

710
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:20.679
<v Speaker 2>way more. I mean, this is like a mecca. But

711
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:24.519
<v Speaker 2>I think it's connected to the Elk. I don't think

712
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:26.639
<v Speaker 2>it's anything else other than the Elk. And I have

713
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:33.559
<v Speaker 2>a theory. They really want to manage animals, they really do. Yeah,

714
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:36.280
<v Speaker 2>they think they are in charge, and you know, I

715
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:39.199
<v Speaker 2>just believe that the man was given dominion over all

716
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:42.599
<v Speaker 2>the creatures. I think they are a competition. We're competition

717
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.920
<v Speaker 2>for that. And I don't even think they use the

718
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:48.800
<v Speaker 2>same parts of the animal that we do. I mean,

719
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:50.920
<v Speaker 2>it's really not competition. I think it has to do

720
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.599
<v Speaker 2>with different degrees of glory. I think it has something

721
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:57.159
<v Speaker 2>to do with things that are ancient, things that are

722
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:00.760
<v Speaker 2>beyond us that we don't know. I think it keeps

723
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:03.239
<v Speaker 2>our eyes on them. When we chase after them or

724
00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:06.039
<v Speaker 2>we focus on them, we're glorifying them, and that's what

725
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:09.519
<v Speaker 2>they're looking for. I think that they know ways that

726
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:13.719
<v Speaker 2>we don't. I don't think they're, you know, like necessarily

727
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:16.400
<v Speaker 2>all evil. You'll hear about some savings. Some you know,

728
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:20.000
<v Speaker 2>that's fine and dandy. Obviously they're able to procreate, but

729
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that they Some people say that they

730
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:27.679
<v Speaker 2>see them and they look like they've lived forever. I

731
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:31.039
<v Speaker 2>don't know that they really can die. I don't know,

732
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:33.440
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know that they're all the way here either,

733
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:38.559
<v Speaker 2>But I know that they have supernatural gifts that I know.

734
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:41.360
<v Speaker 2>They've been around for a while, and I know that

735
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:46.519
<v Speaker 2>like in the LDS or Mormon religion, and it's not

736
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:50.760
<v Speaker 2>talked about, but some of the apostles have seen them

737
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 2>and talked about them, the early pioneers. They've written, it's

738
00:42:54.199 --> 00:43:00.119
<v Speaker 2>in you know, history, and so it's like, I mean,

739
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:06.280
<v Speaker 2>one occasion was like eighteen thirty five, you know. And

740
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't really want to get too much into that

741
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:11.079
<v Speaker 2>because I'm not trying to say anything about that. I'm

742
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:15.320
<v Speaker 2>just saying that there's things that have been happening for

743
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:19.719
<v Speaker 2>a long time. It's not just a recent thing, right.

744
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely. And I mean it's not just you know,

745
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:28.000
<v Speaker 1>in the Mormon writings. I mean there's multiple accounts in

746
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:32.199
<v Speaker 1>that time period, the eighteen hundreds of wild Man's sightings

747
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:36.599
<v Speaker 1>all over the country. It's incredible.

748
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:44.079
<v Speaker 2>I know, yeah it is. But I think that I

749
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:49.760
<v Speaker 2>think that I don't know, they just master things. But

750
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:52.280
<v Speaker 2>I feel protected, like I know who I am. I

751
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:54.079
<v Speaker 2>know I'm like a child of God. I know that,

752
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:55.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, I know where I come from.

753
00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:58.599
<v Speaker 2>I know I do have dominion over animals. I'm not

754
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:05.199
<v Speaker 2>out you know, hunting elk right now, like alone, you know,

755
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:09.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I'm not in fear, but I haven't camped

756
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:11.159
<v Speaker 2>for a long time.

757
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:12.039
<v Speaker 3>You know.

758
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:16.559
<v Speaker 2>It does kind of keep me. I'm careful, and I

759
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:19.840
<v Speaker 2>have an underwater whistle that I blow. When they do

760
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:22.400
<v Speaker 2>the tree knocks, I'll notice there's a correlation to when

761
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.039
<v Speaker 2>they flush out deer like I would. I heard a

762
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:27.360
<v Speaker 2>couple of years. Maybe it was a last year or

763
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:31.800
<v Speaker 2>the year before, I heard a tree knock when I

764
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:36.199
<v Speaker 2>pulled up to take my dogs out and it was one,

765
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:40.039
<v Speaker 2>two and then three, and then I thought, okay, started

766
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:41.480
<v Speaker 2>walking back to my car. I was like, I'm not

767
00:44:41.519 --> 00:44:44.639
<v Speaker 2>doing that well obviously right, And then I look up

768
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.840
<v Speaker 2>and this hurd a deer got flushed out of the

769
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.679
<v Speaker 2>woods on the other side, and then they started running

770
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:53.079
<v Speaker 2>back up into the woods and they got flushed out again.

771
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:54.960
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, are you kidding me?

772
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Like you're hearing tree knocks trade outside your house?

773
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:04.960
<v Speaker 2>No, this is just I went. It's about three miles away.

774
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:09.400
<v Speaker 2>It's like two ridges over. Yeah, because I take my

775
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:13.159
<v Speaker 2>dog somewhere else to go running where we're not because

776
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm in a neighborhood here, I'm kind of by I'm

777
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:19.079
<v Speaker 2>right outside a mountain. I'm looking at a mountain right now.

778
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:22.079
<v Speaker 2>But there's some neighbors, you know what I mean. So

779
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:27.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't have any situations around my house to speak of.

780
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.119
<v Speaker 2>I know the neighbors said that she saw someone in

781
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:32.159
<v Speaker 2>the garbage that was really big, with a big hood

782
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:35.760
<v Speaker 2>that ran really flat, and I didn't ask any question.

783
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.119
<v Speaker 2>But other than that, you know what I mean, there's

784
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:40.000
<v Speaker 2>just and I have chickens and stuff.

785
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Like that, big for society, who will be right back

786
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:43.400
<v Speaker 1>after these messages.

787
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.920
<v Speaker 2>So I don't even you know, I don't have any

788
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:08.360
<v Speaker 2>issues with them coming here. I don't have those issues.

789
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:10.719
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, you know. I mean, I don't

790
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:13.559
<v Speaker 2>even want to really talk because I don't want to.

791
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:16.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to conjure anything up.

792
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:20.199
<v Speaker 1>No, I get you, you know, I get that feeling

793
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.239
<v Speaker 1>where it's like you want to be careful what you

794
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:26.159
<v Speaker 1>talk about. The area where you heard the tree knocks.

795
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you ever hear any other strange sounds out there

796
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:29.800
<v Speaker 1>that don't belong?

797
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:33.519
<v Speaker 2>Or yes, okay, so here's something else and this I

798
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:39.320
<v Speaker 2>can't put together. So and oh I have video too

799
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:42.719
<v Speaker 2>where I started to record because I had you. And

800
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I came home and called my sister of Florida and said,

801
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, listen to this. She goes, I can

802
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:50.920
<v Speaker 2>hear it. So what happened was I went up on

803
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.960
<v Speaker 2>this hill and there's this activity area. I don't want

804
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:55.760
<v Speaker 2>to name it out too much. But there's this activity

805
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:58.760
<v Speaker 2>area which is not very populated because it's not very popular.

806
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.280
<v Speaker 2>There's other activity areas you know, people can go to.

807
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:04.480
<v Speaker 2>But anyhow, no one was out there. I took my

808
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:07.679
<v Speaker 2>dogs and I was ball launching and my dog sometimes

809
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:10.199
<v Speaker 2>she winds up, the German shepherd. She gets excited over

810
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:13.320
<v Speaker 2>the balls like a coonhound would over a raccoon or something.

811
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:17.599
<v Speaker 2>It just is ridiculous, right, but she gets really excited

812
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:20.199
<v Speaker 2>and so she starts doing that, you know, that sort

813
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:23.039
<v Speaker 2>of thing. But it's loud. So she was doing that

814
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:25.360
<v Speaker 2>and then until I released the ball and she can

815
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:28.599
<v Speaker 2>go run because when she's running, she can't scream anymore, right,

816
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:32.000
<v Speaker 2>so then she goes and runs. Well, she did that

817
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.400
<v Speaker 2>a couple times, and right behind us in the woodline,

818
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:37.800
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't very far away. It was maybe twenty

819
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:45.559
<v Speaker 2>feet into the woodline, I heard this electronic like a backup,

820
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:50.159
<v Speaker 2>like a trailer, you know what I mean, just a

821
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:55.000
<v Speaker 2>weird out of this world. It wasn't really a trailer backup.

822
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:57.360
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't mechanical, but it kind of sounded like it.

823
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:01.320
<v Speaker 2>But it was loud, okay, And I thought, what is

824
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:04.760
<v Speaker 2>that and it would it would get loud and then dissipate,

825
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:09.360
<v Speaker 2>and then get loud and then dissipate. And then I

826
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:18.199
<v Speaker 2>heard like little cries, you know, like I was tempted

827
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:20.639
<v Speaker 2>to go in and check on what it was, and

828
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:23.360
<v Speaker 2>I did not, and instead I turned on my phone

829
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:27.880
<v Speaker 2>and started recording. And I do have some of those cries.

830
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:32.480
<v Speaker 1>And you have that recorded. So were they like like

831
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:33.639
<v Speaker 1>baby cries.

832
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Or At first I thought it sounded like baby cries,

833
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:39.239
<v Speaker 2>but then I thought maybe it was an animal, like

834
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:43.079
<v Speaker 2>a calf or something. So I thought maybe it was

835
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:49.639
<v Speaker 2>an animal that was being asphyxiated. And I thought, but gosh,

836
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:56.199
<v Speaker 2>why that timing. Why did that weird electronic noise spark

837
00:48:56.320 --> 00:49:00.239
<v Speaker 2>up when my dog was making that weird noise. It's

838
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:04.119
<v Speaker 2>like it got attracted to it and then started doing

839
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.559
<v Speaker 2>its thing. It was weird, really weird, And I do

840
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:10.800
<v Speaker 2>have it on I have a recording and it has

841
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.199
<v Speaker 2>the little cries. You can you can hear them. I mean,

842
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:16.320
<v Speaker 2>it's not loud like being there right, but you can

843
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:20.880
<v Speaker 2>still hear it. And towards the end it kind of

844
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.719
<v Speaker 2>sounded like maybe it was a baby deer or a

845
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:32.280
<v Speaker 2>or a full grown one. But I went back in there. Huh,

846
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. A few weeks later, there was

847
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:43.239
<v Speaker 2>a big elk bone just laying right out in the

848
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:48.119
<v Speaker 2>open where it shouldn't be. And I've took that like

849
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:50.960
<v Speaker 2>as a warning, you know what I mean. But there

850
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:56.639
<v Speaker 2>was no dead elk carcass or carry on inside or anything.

851
00:49:56.760 --> 00:50:00.440
<v Speaker 2>So another time I went out in the same area,

852
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:03.920
<v Speaker 2>I show up. It's in the afternoon, I get my

853
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:06.360
<v Speaker 2>dogs out, and all of a sudden, I hear that

854
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:14.199
<v Speaker 2>loud beeping, like electronic, but it wasn't in the woodline.

855
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:18.239
<v Speaker 2>It was down. It was like, I don't know, it

856
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:23.159
<v Speaker 2>was super loud, like almost like an alarm, like almost

857
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:27.039
<v Speaker 2>like and this is going to sound a little bit crazy,

858
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:29.480
<v Speaker 2>but you know that one thing that they show like

859
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:33.039
<v Speaker 2>they say that they see and it's like this tall

860
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:35.440
<v Speaker 2>thing that they call like radiohead or something like that.

861
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:40.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yep, that it sounded like that.

862
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Really.

863
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:43.400
<v Speaker 2>I got into my car and left.

864
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:46.159
<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh man, it was.

865
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:51.000
<v Speaker 2>It was a electronic loud alarm sound and no one

866
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:56.079
<v Speaker 2>was around, and I'm just like, this is nuts. And

867
00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:59.360
<v Speaker 2>there was a vibration, you could feel a vibration, but

868
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:01.960
<v Speaker 2>it was just there was no reason for it. Because

869
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:05.760
<v Speaker 2>there's no alarms there. There's nothing there.

870
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:10.000
<v Speaker 1>When you're saying you feel a vibration, can you so

871
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you were feeling it like like it was affecting you

872
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:15.800
<v Speaker 1>or can you describe a little bit more of what

873
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:16.519
<v Speaker 1>you mean by that.

874
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:23.639
<v Speaker 2>So the noise was loud, but it resonated like a vibration, Okay,

875
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:29.920
<v Speaker 2>So it felt you could feel a vibration like like physically,

876
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:33.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember physically putting my hand on anything and

877
00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:37.239
<v Speaker 2>feeling a vibration, but you could feel that it was

878
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:40.719
<v Speaker 2>a vibration somehow. I don't know how to explain it,

879
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:42.960
<v Speaker 2>just that it was a vibration.

880
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Did your emotional state change it all during that time?

881
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:50.679
<v Speaker 2>I have what happens when stuff like that happens is

882
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I do the flight yep, And so I get mad

883
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:59.519
<v Speaker 2>and do the flight okay. And so when that happens,

884
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.239
<v Speaker 2>what what I will say happens is I get sick,

885
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:06.960
<v Speaker 2>but my emotions don't like I don't want to I

886
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:10.320
<v Speaker 2>don't want to go right then investigate because I know

887
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:14.239
<v Speaker 2>that it's something, probably bad, something Look you know what

888
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, And I know that it's a warning to me,

889
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:22.440
<v Speaker 2>just like I feel like anytime i've dealt with this stuff.

890
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Even with that cow elk with the calf, it's like

891
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:29.559
<v Speaker 2>always a warning. And here's one more thing I have

892
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:34.599
<v Speaker 2>to tell you. So on that same trail, right after

893
00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:38.519
<v Speaker 2>that cow elk sing happened, my dogs and I will

894
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:40.400
<v Speaker 2>go down this trail and this is where I found

895
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.559
<v Speaker 2>this old pickaxe. It was just awesome. I still have it.

896
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:48.840
<v Speaker 2>But we go down this really steep trail and there's

897
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:51.199
<v Speaker 2>no trees where we go. You have to go up

898
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the mountain up on top because it's just covered with

899
00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:58.760
<v Speaker 2>like there's old mining stuff, you know, like not stuff,

900
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:03.719
<v Speaker 2>but like the ground is not there's no trees right

901
00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:06.480
<v Speaker 2>until you get up on top, and then there's trees

902
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:11.960
<v Speaker 2>everywhere galore. Right. So I went in one day and

903
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:15.280
<v Speaker 2>this tree that was about ten foot twelve foot tall

904
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:20.320
<v Speaker 2>was laying right there. It had been ripped off and

905
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:23.840
<v Speaker 2>it probably had about, I don't know, eight inch ten

906
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:31.159
<v Speaker 2>inch circumference, healthy tree, perfectly healthy. I have pictures, And

907
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:34.599
<v Speaker 2>I thought, what broke that off and threw it here?

908
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:38.199
<v Speaker 2>Because you can't, I mean, you have to bring it there.

909
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:40.320
<v Speaker 2>And why is it right here where I walk? And

910
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:45.280
<v Speaker 2>why is it broke off? It wasn't you know it

911
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:48.480
<v Speaker 2>wasn't axed or chainsawed, you know what I mean. It

912
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:54.239
<v Speaker 2>wasn't sod so it was ripped and the bark was

913
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:59.119
<v Speaker 2>broken around it. It was a brand new tree, so

914
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:03.639
<v Speaker 2>it's like something through it there like stayed away from here,

915
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:06.639
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. It's right right where we go.

916
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:08.079
<v Speaker 2>We are always right there.

917
00:54:08.639 --> 00:54:14.039
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, that one area sounds extremely weird. I don't know

918
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:19.119
<v Speaker 1>how often I would go there by myself, to be honest. No,

919
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:23.320
<v Speaker 1>there's just some really really weird stuff that you're experiencing

920
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:28.159
<v Speaker 1>in whatever this one area is. And you said earlier

921
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:33.199
<v Speaker 1>that this this town has a lot of high strangeness

922
00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:37.760
<v Speaker 1>in it. So is there other stuff going on besides Bigfoot?

923
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:45.039
<v Speaker 1>And if you don't want to get into it, I

924
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:46.920
<v Speaker 1>totally respect that and we can move on.

925
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:52.440
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of suicides, okay, gotcha. And one was

926
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:56.880
<v Speaker 4>just in the woods wow, so oh boy, And it

927
00:54:56.960 --> 00:55:01.079
<v Speaker 4>was a big deal, so just a month ago. Yeah,

928
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:05.079
<v Speaker 4>so it was a local pastor to hear, but that

929
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:05.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't think.

930
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:07.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't tie that to anything. I'm sure his family,

931
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:11.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, so it was. But other than that, there's young,

932
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:15.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of young suicides, and I don't want to

933
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:17.679
<v Speaker 2>speak for anyone else, because there was also an incident

934
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:23.719
<v Speaker 2>which was weird and I think I can't remember his name,

935
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:26.559
<v Speaker 2>but there was a podcast that was done on this

936
00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:33.199
<v Speaker 2>kid that I know who his mom is, but he

937
00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:39.599
<v Speaker 2>just had called her and then like someone was pursuing

938
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:42.559
<v Speaker 2>him or something, and then you know, they found him

939
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:47.239
<v Speaker 2>up on a gould but nobody knows. But then right

940
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:52.559
<v Speaker 2>before that, there was like two suicides which were really

941
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:56.079
<v Speaker 2>odd type. So but you know, that just sounds like

942
00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:56.960
<v Speaker 2>it's more like.

943
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Humans, you know, bad behavior, right, maybe if there was

944
00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:05.599
<v Speaker 3>some sort of thing going on that wasn't there's just

945
00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:08.800
<v Speaker 3>a lot of speculation as to whether they were or not,

946
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:11.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, but I don't know.

947
00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:14.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know those situations or if there's anything to those,

948
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:19.039
<v Speaker 2>and I just try to stay away from that because

949
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:22.079
<v Speaker 2>I think if you get caught up in that, that's

950
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:25.639
<v Speaker 2>the type of spirit you don't want to be friendly with,

951
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:27.920
<v Speaker 2>because you know, who needs to be depressed, right.

952
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I get that. Are there also a lot

953
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:36.039
<v Speaker 1>of like UFO sightings or things like that in the

954
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:36.679
<v Speaker 1>same area.

955
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:42.880
<v Speaker 2>There's there's so many mountains, it's you know, there's not

956
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:46.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot of there's sky, but it's like, I don't know,

957
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure. I haven't you know, had any, but

958
00:56:54.199 --> 00:57:00.599
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be surprised, you know. But I know when

959
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:06.119
<v Speaker 2>there was an avalanche and there was a couple of

960
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:09.519
<v Speaker 2>years ago and there was a doctor who died and

961
00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:12.840
<v Speaker 2>then they had the helicopter go up and rescue, well

962
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:18.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't rescue, but you know, got recovered the body. And

963
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:21.719
<v Speaker 2>so there was a big thing that went around, the

964
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:24.840
<v Speaker 2>coyotes are out, keep your dogs in. They're going crazy,

965
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:27.679
<v Speaker 2>they're going crazy. And I was listening to them, and

966
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:31.880
<v Speaker 2>they those were not coyotes, it's all. It wasn't a

967
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:37.599
<v Speaker 2>like feeble attempt to make coyote howls, but that was

968
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I figured it was something else trying to sound like coyotes.

969
00:57:42.320 --> 00:57:46.039
<v Speaker 2>And they were angry over those helicopters, you know, because

970
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:49.000
<v Speaker 2>it was right when they were doing that stuff up there.

971
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Was it because the sound of it was much louder.

972
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:54.559
<v Speaker 1>What were the main things that tipped you off that

973
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:56.159
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't actually coyotes.

974
00:57:56.599 --> 00:57:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, I grew up around coyotes, so I can almost

975
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:02.400
<v Speaker 2>imitate a kai right like you can call them in.

976
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:11.119
<v Speaker 2>So but they didn't. It was louder and more they

977
00:58:11.159 --> 00:58:16.559
<v Speaker 2>carried on more like extended out the howl and it

978
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:20.360
<v Speaker 2>took different like tones. I mean, it just didn't it

979
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:23.639
<v Speaker 2>didn't sound like it wasn't a coyote. It was like

980
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:27.119
<v Speaker 2>trying to sound like a kyote, but it didn't. There's

981
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:29.840
<v Speaker 2>no coyote that ever sounded like that. I've never heard

982
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:34.039
<v Speaker 2>a coyote make those sounds. At some point they sounded

983
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:36.280
<v Speaker 2>similar to kyote. And then they would extend it out

984
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:38.280
<v Speaker 2>and it would go too far, and then it would

985
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:42.320
<v Speaker 2>change tone, and it's like that's not someone imitated, but

986
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:44.760
<v Speaker 2>it's too loud to be a person, you see what

987
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:48.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean. Yeah, it's hard to explain. I did try

988
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:51.159
<v Speaker 2>to record it out my front window or my front

989
00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:54.280
<v Speaker 2>door because you could hear it, but I couldn't capture it.

990
00:58:54.840 --> 00:59:01.559
<v Speaker 2>So but I did capture those those noises from the

991
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:04.840
<v Speaker 2>cries in the woodline, and I just think that's really

992
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:10.239
<v Speaker 2>close to two dogs and a person to be killing

993
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:12.599
<v Speaker 2>if it was a predator. I mean, what are the

994
00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:15.679
<v Speaker 2>chances it was killing something that was crying out like

995
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:18.840
<v Speaker 2>that that close to me to where I could record it, you.

996
00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Know what I mean?

997
00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:19.559
<v Speaker 2>Right?

998
00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Or even you know, another way to look at it is,

999
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:29.519
<v Speaker 1>you know places like southeast Alaska. They they talk about

1000
00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:32.719
<v Speaker 1>how they hear cries in the woods and it's a

1001
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:35.920
<v Speaker 1>way that you know, the hairy man is trying to

1002
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:41.440
<v Speaker 1>lure people into the woods because they're going to see

1003
00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:46.000
<v Speaker 1>see if there's a baby in trouble. And usually this

1004
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:51.199
<v Speaker 1>is there's like a you know, there's a woman involved.

1005
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:54.159
<v Speaker 1>Like they often know that if they use this type

1006
00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:56.719
<v Speaker 1>of baby cry, they have a better chance of getting

1007
00:59:56.760 --> 00:59:59.480
<v Speaker 1>them lured into the woods. So it's just that that

1008
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:02.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of came to mind when I was hearing your

1009
01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:05.000
<v Speaker 1>story as well. Big for society, who will be right

1010
01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:06.360
<v Speaker 1>back after these messages.

1011
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:26.719
<v Speaker 2>That's good. That's good because my dreams from even before

1012
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:31.559
<v Speaker 2>this happened are about me rescuing little kids or animals

1013
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:34.800
<v Speaker 2>and trying to keep them safe. What is that about?

1014
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:37.760
<v Speaker 2>And then I'm in the woods and these sounds come out,

1015
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:40.840
<v Speaker 2>and you would think that I would go and rescue them,

1016
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:44.760
<v Speaker 2>but I don't because I don't trust because I saw

1017
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:49.159
<v Speaker 2>one when I was, you know, young, and I know

1018
01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:51.719
<v Speaker 2>I know that they're there. I mean I don't know

1019
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:56.760
<v Speaker 2>what they are. I don't know how dangerous they are.

1020
01:00:56.800 --> 01:01:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I think that they have like a I think there's

1021
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:05.559
<v Speaker 2>stipulations to their existence. I think that they're not supposed

1022
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:09.760
<v Speaker 2>to mess with us. I mean that's I truly truly

1023
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:14.719
<v Speaker 2>believe that. I believe there's various degrees of glory, and

1024
01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I believe that, you know, we're here for a purpose,

1025
01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:22.400
<v Speaker 2>they're there for another purpose and our world's collide. But

1026
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:24.480
<v Speaker 2>they're not supposed to mess with us. But I do

1027
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:28.440
<v Speaker 2>believe they're jealous of us. And it's obviously not because

1028
01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:32.599
<v Speaker 2>we have wonderful skills, because they outclass us one hundred percent, right,

1029
01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:38.400
<v Speaker 2>But somehow they are always trying to prove that they

1030
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:40.679
<v Speaker 2>are in charge of the animals, and I don't know

1031
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:41.719
<v Speaker 2>what that's about.

1032
01:01:41.920 --> 01:01:45.599
<v Speaker 1>It's really interesting viewpoint. I really haven't heard a lot

1033
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:49.320
<v Speaker 1>on when I've been doing interviews over the last few years,

1034
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:54.519
<v Speaker 1>so I'm kind of curious to ask you, how is

1035
01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:58.920
<v Speaker 1>it that you view these creatures, like, how would you

1036
01:01:59.000 --> 01:01:59.840
<v Speaker 1>describe what a.

1037
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Then anytime I hear anybody start to get into the hole, Oh,

1038
01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:08.199
<v Speaker 2>they could survive in the wild, and you know, this

1039
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:10.519
<v Speaker 2>could be their forge for this and they could live there,

1040
01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:13.079
<v Speaker 2>I just want to laugh because I know they're not

1041
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:17.000
<v Speaker 2>here all the time. They're not like that. I'm not

1042
01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:23.480
<v Speaker 2>they can't bear. They're not They're not like a bear

1043
01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:28.079
<v Speaker 2>or organic. They're not of this earth like we are.

1044
01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:35.119
<v Speaker 2>They're like on a different you know, they're in a

1045
01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:37.920
<v Speaker 2>different place. And I'm not saying they don't manifest physically,

1046
01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:42.679
<v Speaker 2>but I think they've you know, I think we've heard

1047
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.800
<v Speaker 2>enough about them, at least in folklore and also in literature,

1048
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:49.320
<v Speaker 2>and also in sightings, which isn't folklore, to where we

1049
01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:52.119
<v Speaker 2>know that they do things we don't know how to do.

1050
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:54.159
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think they're special. I think they want

1051
01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:58.239
<v Speaker 2>to be worshiped, and I think they want to worship

1052
01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:01.199
<v Speaker 2>could be anything. You know, We've got big foot pictures

1053
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:04.760
<v Speaker 2>and people focus on them and make money.

1054
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Off it, statues in some towns even you know, it's

1055
01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:10.480
<v Speaker 1>it's very interesting to think about that way. You think

1056
01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:12.719
<v Speaker 1>there could be maybe portals involved, or.

1057
01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, whatever that is. There's people that know so much

1058
01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:20.239
<v Speaker 2>more about that. And I think I have an idea,

1059
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:23.239
<v Speaker 2>but it seems like every time I get into that

1060
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:27.239
<v Speaker 2>or talk about it, I have like I just I

1061
01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:30.599
<v Speaker 2>go it just it doesn't sit well because I feel

1062
01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:34.880
<v Speaker 2>like I feel like I'm too vulnerable. I don't like

1063
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:39.000
<v Speaker 2>it to affect my I really I really just like

1064
01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:42.840
<v Speaker 2>to live you know, here and now. Like I find

1065
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:45.440
<v Speaker 2>pleasure in things like how cute those elk were doing that?

1066
01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:46.760
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? Exactly?

1067
01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I find pleasure in like, you know, taking care of

1068
01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:52.840
<v Speaker 2>my chickens and the cute stuff they do, my dogs,

1069
01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:54.840
<v Speaker 2>my grandkids, my you know what I mean. There's just

1070
01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:57.360
<v Speaker 2>so much to enjoy in this world. I really do

1071
01:03:57.519 --> 01:04:02.360
<v Speaker 2>enjoy things, absolutely, but whenever I deal with that part

1072
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:05.199
<v Speaker 2>of things, even from a really young age, I feel

1073
01:04:05.239 --> 01:04:10.840
<v Speaker 2>like they just put a lot of terror and worry

1074
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:16.320
<v Speaker 2>and stress and just they make you worry. I mean,

1075
01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:18.760
<v Speaker 2>I can't even go out hiking without hearing them call

1076
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:20.599
<v Speaker 2>my dog's name. You know what I mean? Well, yeah

1077
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I can. They don't call it every time, but or

1078
01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:26.119
<v Speaker 2>a ball disappears, and it's when you least expect expect it,

1079
01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:29.079
<v Speaker 2>and then you get all these balls where you've never been.

1080
01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:32.199
<v Speaker 2>You go picking and there's all the balls in perfect shape,

1081
01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:35.440
<v Speaker 2>and they're your balls. You've been missing them. In fact,

1082
01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:38.960
<v Speaker 2>when I was texting that roommate about hearing her call

1083
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:41.039
<v Speaker 2>out my dog's name, I said, oh, and I lost

1084
01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:45.039
<v Speaker 2>two balls somehow too. She's like, oh, no, I mean,

1085
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:49.039
<v Speaker 2>just to just to you know, highlight how often this happens.

1086
01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:51.280
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, oh, well, maybe they go into the

1087
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:55.960
<v Speaker 2>the high weeds, sherry. Maybe you know, maybe the coyotes

1088
01:04:56.880 --> 01:04:59.440
<v Speaker 2>grab them and you know, I mean mob them around

1089
01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:02.280
<v Speaker 2>and put them together in one place. I don't know,

1090
01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:06.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe homeless people that are coming into the

1091
01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:08.119
<v Speaker 2>woods now, you know, I mean more and more, maybe

1092
01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:10.880
<v Speaker 2>they're doing some I don't know, but I do know

1093
01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:14.800
<v Speaker 2>that that there was a message to me with that,

1094
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:18.920
<v Speaker 2>with that elk, And there's been several messages to me.

1095
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:26.800
<v Speaker 2>And the more the more experiences I have, it kind

1096
01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:32.119
<v Speaker 2>of turns different, it becomes it's become scarier because of

1097
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:33.800
<v Speaker 2>those electronic sounds.

1098
01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:35.400
<v Speaker 3>M m.

1099
01:05:35.639 --> 01:05:39.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And if I didn't have my dogs with me,

1100
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:45.760
<v Speaker 2>I just don't think, you know, my cell phone and

1101
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:48.039
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. If I didn't have my dogs with me,

1102
01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:50.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean I wouldn't probably go where I'm going and stuff,

1103
01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:54.199
<v Speaker 2>but I just wouldn't feel as safe. And I also

1104
01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:56.639
<v Speaker 2>am kind of concerned about my dogs. I don't let

1105
01:05:56.639 --> 01:05:58.920
<v Speaker 2>them out of my sight and we stay in open areas.

1106
01:05:58.920 --> 01:06:01.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't let them go into the wood like I

1107
01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:03.000
<v Speaker 2>used to. We used to go into the brush and

1108
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:05.400
<v Speaker 2>things and then you know, I was finding all those

1109
01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:08.960
<v Speaker 2>bones and stuff and then hearing those calls. It's it's

1110
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:11.440
<v Speaker 2>just it's kind of creepy. It's kind of creepy anyways,

1111
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Like because sometimes where we go, you know, you'll find

1112
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:17.840
<v Speaker 2>cachets where mountainon have buried some bones and stuff too,

1113
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.119
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, So you can you kind

1114
01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:22.559
<v Speaker 2>of get a little bit of creepiness there, you know

1115
01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:26.119
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So there's creepiness anyhow.

1116
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:30.440
<v Speaker 1>But has has something called your dog's name multiple times?

1117
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Or is it just the one time?

1118
01:06:32.599 --> 01:06:34.199
<v Speaker 2>Thank god, just that one time.

1119
01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's still weird though, Yeah, isn't it. It's super weird.

1120
01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:41.519
<v Speaker 2>My dog perked up its ears and looked.

1121
01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I would go back to that place,

1122
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:46.920
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, I mean, just talking personally like that

1123
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:48.840
<v Speaker 1>would weird me out.

1124
01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:52.440
<v Speaker 2>I know, she almost she almost turned and went that direction,

1125
01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:59.320
<v Speaker 2>but she didn't because she was with me, Like there

1126
01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:01.800
<v Speaker 2>was a like, isn't that weird?

1127
01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:07.960
<v Speaker 1>It's it's super weird. Yeah, what's the what's the most

1128
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:12.920
<v Speaker 1>recent time that you've had a dream that included something

1129
01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:17.760
<v Speaker 1>to do with Bigfoot?

1130
01:07:23.239 --> 01:07:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

1131
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

1132
01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:30.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean I've had some I guess. I had a

1133
01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:33.440
<v Speaker 2>bad dream a couple of months ago, and I woke

1134
01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:37.000
<v Speaker 2>up and said, oh my gosh. I remember waking up

1135
01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:40.320
<v Speaker 2>going what a horrible dream. But it was more about

1136
01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:46.039
<v Speaker 2>just being concerned about babies and stuff and little animal.

1137
01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:48.039
<v Speaker 2>Is that weird?

1138
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:52.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I mean it's very it's very out of

1139
01:07:52.559 --> 01:07:56.599
<v Speaker 1>the ordinary for sure. Yeah.

1140
01:07:57.760 --> 01:08:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just think that maybe that's my I think

1141
01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:07.559
<v Speaker 2>that they observe obviously they're called watchers, right, and I

1142
01:08:07.559 --> 01:08:10.480
<v Speaker 2>think they can find your weakness and they pick up

1143
01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:13.719
<v Speaker 2>on it. I don't believe that they can read your mind.

1144
01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:18.439
<v Speaker 2>I think they're clever. I think they're they're claiboyant at

1145
01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:22.880
<v Speaker 2>reading your actions, and so it seems like there can

1146
01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:25.319
<v Speaker 2>read your mind. I believe that only God can read

1147
01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:28.520
<v Speaker 2>your mind. I think that they can put things into

1148
01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:31.439
<v Speaker 2>your mind, though, But I don't believe that they can

1149
01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:36.199
<v Speaker 2>read your mind. And that's just my belief. But I

1150
01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:38.560
<v Speaker 2>just think that they pick up on your weaknesses and

1151
01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:41.079
<v Speaker 2>the things that you you know, if you're going out

1152
01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:43.319
<v Speaker 2>there enough, and I mean it's like almost every day

1153
01:08:43.479 --> 01:08:44.880
<v Speaker 2>like I'm out there, you know what I mean. So

1154
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:49.279
<v Speaker 2>there's been a lot of you know, reading of me.

1155
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:52.640
<v Speaker 2>If that's what they're doing. I mean, I'm probably just

1156
01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:56.119
<v Speaker 2>even talking about it. I feel like we're it's like

1157
01:08:56.199 --> 01:09:02.399
<v Speaker 2>a sideline or or a sidebar conversation. It's like I

1158
01:09:02.399 --> 01:09:05.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know how much. I don't know how much I

1159
01:09:05.039 --> 01:09:08.359
<v Speaker 2>want to give to it, because I don't think they're

1160
01:09:08.359 --> 01:09:13.159
<v Speaker 2>worth any of it. I know that that they've existed

1161
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:14.960
<v Speaker 2>for a long time. I know there's a ramp up

1162
01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:19.439
<v Speaker 2>in their importance. I think that they're dangerous. I think

1163
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:24.119
<v Speaker 2>they're unclean. I noticed that people just an observation, people

1164
01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:28.960
<v Speaker 2>that get terrorized physically by them, like in person scared.

1165
01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I think they read that situation as well. I think

1166
01:09:34.760 --> 01:09:38.840
<v Speaker 2>they get entertained by other people and then mess with them,

1167
01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:42.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, like that whole having bad dreams and things

1168
01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:45.760
<v Speaker 2>like that. I know that in some of the accounts

1169
01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:51.640
<v Speaker 2>from one of the apostles for the the LDS Church,

1170
01:09:54.199 --> 01:09:56.680
<v Speaker 2>whatever it was that talked to him, the big hairy

1171
01:09:56.840 --> 01:09:59.720
<v Speaker 2>creature whatever it was, had said that he was there

1172
01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:04.840
<v Speaker 2>to do story human souls, that it was a miserable,

1173
01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:07.960
<v Speaker 2>that he was miserable and couldn't die, you know. And

1174
01:10:08.039 --> 01:10:10.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean, of course, you know there's folklore too, so

1175
01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:14.520
<v Speaker 2>I believe there were accounts, But I don't know how

1176
01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:17.079
<v Speaker 2>they change throughout time. I'm just you know, really open

1177
01:10:17.159 --> 01:10:19.960
<v Speaker 2>to know that the things change, and some of the

1178
01:10:19.960 --> 01:10:23.319
<v Speaker 2>older accounts don't sound like the more recent accounts. But

1179
01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:27.359
<v Speaker 2>I know that the Bigfoot sure hasn't evolved much. I mean,

1180
01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:30.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're not they're not wearing sandals and they're

1181
01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:35.640
<v Speaker 2>not you know, I mean, they kind of don't evolve

1182
01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:40.800
<v Speaker 2>at all. They're timeless. They kind of stay where they're at.

1183
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Whereas we we evolved, you know, we change and we progress,

1184
01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:50.520
<v Speaker 2>So there's something to that they are not equipped to evolve.

1185
01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:53.520
<v Speaker 2>They have what they have, and they come in and

1186
01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:58.039
<v Speaker 2>out of our realm, and you know, I mean, I

1187
01:10:58.039 --> 01:10:59.680
<v Speaker 2>guess if you don't go in the woods, you don't

1188
01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:01.159
<v Speaker 2>have to deal with them, but they're there.

1189
01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:06.479
<v Speaker 1>You know, makes you wonder where they're going back to

1190
01:11:07.960 --> 01:11:11.479
<v Speaker 1>after they come to our areas and then they go

1191
01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:15.159
<v Speaker 1>somewhere else. Where is it they're going back to? You know? Yeah?

1192
01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:17.840
<v Speaker 2>It does. And also when people say that they've killed them,

1193
01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:20.880
<v Speaker 2>it makes you wonder how much of that is true?

1194
01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:24.159
<v Speaker 2>And then what does that mean? Like if someone's killed one,

1195
01:11:24.199 --> 01:11:26.520
<v Speaker 2>what happens to their Do they have a soul? And

1196
01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:28.720
<v Speaker 2>if they have a soul, do they get reborn again?

1197
01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Because some people believe that they can't ever die. Like

1198
01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:37.279
<v Speaker 2>like what, who cares? Right? Like all these things are

1199
01:11:37.319 --> 01:11:42.159
<v Speaker 2>so mystifying and so curious that we could get stuck

1200
01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:45.199
<v Speaker 2>on them and not have our focus somewhere else. I

1201
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:48.239
<v Speaker 2>just really believe that it's dangerous, at least for someone

1202
01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:54.319
<v Speaker 2>like me who's been so imprinted. And you know, here's

1203
01:11:54.359 --> 01:11:57.319
<v Speaker 2>the problem. Anywhere I go, I can go. I mean

1204
01:11:57.319 --> 01:11:59.640
<v Speaker 2>anywhere I go. I love the country anywhere I go.

1205
01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:03.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, I guess when I was in North Dakota,

1206
01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:10.199
<v Speaker 2>I didn't feel like there was any window but what

1207
01:12:10.439 --> 01:12:18.319
<v Speaker 2>went through there, And one of the tribal members had

1208
01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:21.039
<v Speaker 2>had a heart attack when they had the sighting it

1209
01:12:21.079 --> 01:12:26.279
<v Speaker 2>had gone on if you look up, I don't know

1210
01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:28.520
<v Speaker 2>someone and I don't know if it was the Bigfoot.

1211
01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:32.600
<v Speaker 2>What's the group called that does the investigations.

1212
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:34.079
<v Speaker 1>For real beef.

1213
01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think they did investigation. But I had also

1214
01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:44.960
<v Speaker 2>because I lived there, my daughter works closely there. And

1215
01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:47.720
<v Speaker 2>one of the elders had had a heart attack when

1216
01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:50.359
<v Speaker 2>they saw it. But some of the ladies had seen

1217
01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:54.319
<v Speaker 2>it out on the ice on the Soca Quia like

1218
01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Soka Koua, and so I mean, I just you know,

1219
01:12:57.479 --> 01:12:59.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I hear about things, and you know, I

1220
01:12:59.680 --> 01:13:01.359
<v Speaker 2>liked it to get too. There was a time when

1221
01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:03.800
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to put it together. But since I've

1222
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:07.359
<v Speaker 2>been here and had these things going on and I've

1223
01:13:07.439 --> 01:13:09.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of like put it together. I'm like, oh, I

1224
01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:12.840
<v Speaker 2>see what's going on. It's trying to get me. The

1225
01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:15.479
<v Speaker 2>more you look and the more you know you hear

1226
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:20.680
<v Speaker 2>about people seeking them out, no one ever gets anywhere

1227
01:13:20.680 --> 01:13:25.079
<v Speaker 2>with it. It's like, you know, a treasure hunt kind of,

1228
01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:26.960
<v Speaker 2>it's fruitless.

1229
01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:31.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a treasure hunt that for most people goes on

1230
01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:36.960
<v Speaker 1>forever and hopefully it'll go somewhere in our lifetime. But

1231
01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:42.159
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of people it really doesn't. It it

1232
01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:48.199
<v Speaker 1>can become all consuming. There's a few people that have

1233
01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:50.880
<v Speaker 1>said that, has there been any reports in your area

1234
01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:56.920
<v Speaker 1>where they've been like particularly aggressive reports or just reports

1235
01:13:56.960 --> 01:13:58.239
<v Speaker 1>of more high strangeness.

1236
01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:03.560
<v Speaker 2>So my where I'm at, we don't really report things much.

1237
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean obviously you know, because we thought like somebody

1238
01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:09.680
<v Speaker 2>did call when like I heard the neighbors and it's

1239
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:11.439
<v Speaker 2>fireworks and you think, you know what I mean, there's

1240
01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:15.680
<v Speaker 2>just not a lot of we're just more to ourselves.

1241
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's all over. I mean, if you go

1242
01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:22.800
<v Speaker 2>toward even more south and stuff, I mean, it's pretty

1243
01:14:24.279 --> 01:14:27.880
<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean, Okay, So for instance, even when

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<v Speaker 2>I went to physical therapy, the gals like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I see and I can't see the town, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>several towns around, you know what I mean. But it's anyways,

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01:14:38.840 --> 01:14:41.600
<v Speaker 2>she goes. When I came into town, I saw one

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<v Speaker 2>walking and then we had the owner of the place

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<v Speaker 2>was like yeah, you know, and blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm talking to another kid and he's like, yeah,

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01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:57.439
<v Speaker 2>we just had had a deer hanging and they were

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01:14:57.479 --> 01:15:01.000
<v Speaker 2>out on one of the ravines. You know, I don't

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01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:03.239
<v Speaker 2>want to give away where I'm at, but I probably

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01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:08.720
<v Speaker 2>have already. But anyhow, and the the Bigfoot kept coming by, smacking,

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01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:12.000
<v Speaker 2>like I said, kept smacking their their house.

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<v Speaker 1>Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are vehicles of stuff because it was mad

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01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:36.640
<v Speaker 2>because they had this thing hanging out there, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, what it had been hunting season. Like

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01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:44.079
<v Speaker 2>they don't like right, you know, for trophy. They don't

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01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:46.119
<v Speaker 2>like you to hang it. You're not hanging it to show,

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01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:47.680
<v Speaker 2>but to them that's what it is. I mean, it's

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01:15:47.720 --> 01:15:49.960
<v Speaker 2>almost like they put those bones out and line them

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01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:53.640
<v Speaker 2>up like they're the big like you know, trophy people.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in control of the animal. No, you're not. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you read the Bible, I mean obviously, right Genesis

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01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:01.720
<v Speaker 2>it taught about if you do tie it back to

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<v Speaker 2>this mind. I'm not saying that they are Cain, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying there's a certain theme, common theme. There's

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<v Speaker 2>like this, they're of the same vein. Something's there because Cain.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason Cain killed Abel with a rock. You know

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01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:20.039
<v Speaker 2>how they like to throw their rocks, right, killed Able

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<v Speaker 2>with a rock was he was jealous of him. The

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<v Speaker 2>reason he was jealous of him. In the Bible, it

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<v Speaker 2>says that Abel was a farmer. He was a shepherd type.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a husbandry of animals. He was in charge

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<v Speaker 2>of actual souls animals, and Cain was a dirt tiller.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a farmer, but he was not in charge

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01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:45.239
<v Speaker 2>of animals. He could, he wasn't. That was not his

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01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:48.239
<v Speaker 2>degree of glory. So when it came time to give

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01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:51.600
<v Speaker 2>the offering, and it's in the Bible, these are just

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01:16:51.680 --> 01:16:56.800
<v Speaker 2>my words. In scripture, it says that the Lord was

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01:16:56.840 --> 01:17:08.000
<v Speaker 2>not happy with Cain's sacrifice. He was he was happy

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<v Speaker 2>with Abels, and that's why Cain killed Abel. Abel was

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<v Speaker 2>in charge of animals. Animals are of a higher spirit,

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01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:21.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, They're They're more sentient than plants, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, if you're going to give an offering, right, So,

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like it has to do with glory.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I know that sounds really far out there,

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01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:37.319
<v Speaker 2>but it's just I'm not saying it's direct. I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 2>going on that same theme, somehow it ties into their

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01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:48.760
<v Speaker 2>need to be in charge of animals. And it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. Yeah, that is. I hear a lot of

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01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:01.279
<v Speaker 1>different theories on the on the show, and I would

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01:18:01.279 --> 01:18:03.880
<v Speaker 1>have to say that that is a very unique one.

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01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:06.840
<v Speaker 1>It's it's interesting to think about. Though. I've talked to

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01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:10.680
<v Speaker 1>another guy from this area, and Okay, there's some weird

1299
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:14.960
<v Speaker 1>stuff that goes on in up where I think we

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01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:20.560
<v Speaker 1>might be talking. But and this has been a really

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01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:25.760
<v Speaker 1>interesting chat about. I mean, I feel things are going

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01:18:25.760 --> 01:18:28.000
<v Speaker 1>to continue to happen in your area.

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01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:31.199
<v Speaker 2>I know, and I do have to scale back, and

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01:18:31.239 --> 01:18:34.279
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you, just so you know, I know

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01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:38.960
<v Speaker 2>that they're going to increase, right, I know, I know

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01:18:39.039 --> 01:18:40.640
<v Speaker 2>that they will. I mean, even though I pray when

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01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I go out there and stuff, the fact that I

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01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:46.239
<v Speaker 2>go out there almost feels like I'm returning to the warrant,

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01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:49.239
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like there's it's already been ruined.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've got to find a new place to go.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have to go out of where I'm at,

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01:18:55.399 --> 01:18:59.720
<v Speaker 2>out of the area, because it's all over. It's there's

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<v Speaker 2>like you can go twenty miles and it's still there

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<v Speaker 2>around I'm not kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's just interactions with the creature all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place. Up there, you're saying, there is.

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<v Speaker 2>There is, Yeah, if you're out, if you're out and

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<v Speaker 2>you're disturbing, if you're in the way. Just the common

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<v Speaker 2>denominator is the elk, just so you know. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you're not in where the deer are or the elk,

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01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:38.880
<v Speaker 2>you're probably better off. Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think the common denominator is the elk?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know, but it's definitely they

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01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:50.000
<v Speaker 2>definitely key in on them.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's the other guy I was talking to you.

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01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:57.239
<v Speaker 1>There was elk involved, so oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. Yeah yeah, I mean not so much

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01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:02.520
<v Speaker 2>the moose, but they I think because the elk are

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01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:06.119
<v Speaker 2>like cows, like they migrat in herds, you can control

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<v Speaker 2>them better, and like deer too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that they just they like get off

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<v Speaker 2>on it. They think that. I know that sounds so busy.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I just I feel like it's crazy to

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<v Speaker 2>even talk about it. But you got to understand. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I've gone driving, I took a vacation. I went driving

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<v Speaker 2>up the river and you know, close to where that guy,

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<v Speaker 2>not on purpose because I live here, but close to

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<v Speaker 2>where that guy had that bigfoot sighting, and out of

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01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:42.560
<v Speaker 2>the river bank come running two doughs and like rammed

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01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:47.159
<v Speaker 2>into my front quarter panel or front fender and this

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01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:49.520
<v Speaker 2>my side door. And it's like they were being chased.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, when that was chased, yeah, being k Yeah,

1344
01:20:54.439 --> 01:20:57.159
<v Speaker 2>you know whatever. But it's like I just feel like,

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01:20:58.319 --> 01:20:59.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, it just put me on such

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01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:02.159
<v Speaker 2>high alert. And I never hit you know, I didn't

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01:21:02.199 --> 01:21:03.920
<v Speaker 2>hit them. They ran and of course they could have

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01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:05.279
<v Speaker 2>been running up there, but I mean, they were in

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01:21:05.319 --> 01:21:08.600
<v Speaker 2>such a hurry to get out of that embankment, and

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01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:13.039
<v Speaker 2>it's like, I just feel like, I don't know, I

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01:21:13.039 --> 01:21:16.319
<v Speaker 2>feel like I get messed with you know what I

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<v Speaker 2>mean a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I mean you've had you're dealing with it

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01:21:21.479 --> 01:21:26.479
<v Speaker 1>your whole life for sure. But I'm glad we talked tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>And please keep me in the loop with if things

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<v Speaker 1>conntinue to happen with you know, hearing weird sounds or

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01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:39.279
<v Speaker 1>just the ordinary things. Yeah, that'd be interested to know

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<v Speaker 1>if it continues to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I will let you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for coming on tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you bet, Thank you for having me take care.

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<v Speaker 1>Just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the list. The Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow, Oregon,

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<v Speaker 1>McKinsey Bridge area, Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

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