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Speaker 1: with the show, all right, Bigfat Society. We got the
Speaker 1: privilege of talking to individual Anne, who I'd seen a
Speaker 1: comment on a YouTube video and I had asked for
Speaker 1: her to reach out, and she actually did end up
Speaker 1: reaching out, and it's leading to a very interesting conversation
Speaker 1: that's about to happen. I've been waiting to talk to
Speaker 1: and for little bit of time, and I'm glad that
Speaker 1: the time is finally here. But Ann, how are we
Speaker 1: doing tonight?
Speaker 2: Wonderful? The Pleasure's mind I'm glad.
Speaker 1: That you called absolutely. I mean it is. I think
Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot to this one. But Anne,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead and let you fill in
Speaker 1: the details about what you would like the audience to
Speaker 1: know about your background, if anything.
Speaker 2: Okay, So the topic is bigfoot obviously or things like that,
Speaker 2: high strangeness, and so from a very early age. I'm
Speaker 2: in my I'm about fifty three, but in the early
Speaker 2: seventies I had my first experience. I'm from the Pacific Northwest,
Speaker 2: and I have lived in other places. Some of those
Speaker 2: events occurred in other places too, and I can get
Speaker 2: into those if that's where we go. I grew up
Speaker 2: on a farm, a conventional family, and you know a
Speaker 2: little bit of religion. There definite belief in God and
Speaker 2: you know, our savior in Jesus Christ, things like that.
Speaker 2: But also there was a rift in the family. My
Speaker 2: parents divorced, and then after that time, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: there was there was movements. So it's not I don't
Speaker 2: want it to be portrayed that it always was conventional,
Speaker 2: because you'll see that that my story takes me to
Speaker 2: different places too, because I've had to scramble as a
Speaker 2: single mom, myself and work, and you know, so I've
Speaker 2: had to travel a lot. So that's that kind of
Speaker 2: leads into why there are situations that have happened it
Speaker 2: or occurred in different parts of the country. But leading
Speaker 2: back to I think it was like nineteen seventy four,
Speaker 2: my dad and his cousin we were in We were
Speaker 2: north of Spokane, Washington State. It was in Washington State,
Speaker 2: that's northeast Washington, and we were in Spokane. I remember
Speaker 2: vividly at least see seeing the thing. My cousin, my
Speaker 2: second cousin, was babysitting because my dad and his cousin.
Speaker 2: His cousin was in law school and my mom and
Speaker 2: my dad were friends with you know, they used to
Speaker 2: go do things together, and so his oldest daughter would
Speaker 2: babysit us. Well, there was four or five kids, and
Speaker 2: we were all about the same age. I was, I
Speaker 2: think the youngest. Maybe there might have been one younger
Speaker 2: than me, but I was about four. We were in
Speaker 2: the yard playing making mudpies and we had a hose
Speaker 2: out there, I remember, and it was on the South
Speaker 2: Hill and Spokane. But this is back before there was
Speaker 2: a lot of development and so there was more trees
Speaker 2: in the back behind and forested areas, and so we
Speaker 2: were in the backyard playing and there was a big
Speaker 2: tree to my left, and I was facing say north,
Speaker 2: because the house was also to the west of me,
Speaker 2: which was on my left. And then there was a big,
Speaker 2: huge tree, like a tamarack, because you know, Pacific Northwest
Speaker 2: is well known for those, even in backyards. And then
Speaker 2: you know, we had this big mud you know, blog
Speaker 2: or whatever we were playing in and then the kids
Speaker 2: all ran in, so they ran inside, and I just
Speaker 2: remember lagging behind because I wanted to still make mudpies.
Speaker 2: I was having a grand old time and I didn't
Speaker 2: want to go in, so I stayed out. And that
Speaker 2: was always curious to me because it was like a
Speaker 2: point of separation that's talked about. The kids went inside,
Speaker 2: I was alone, and I'm sitting there making these mudpies,
Speaker 2: and I remember seeing something huge behind the tree. It
Speaker 2: like slid up behind the tree, and I just saw
Speaker 2: it like peripherally, and then it leaned out, and I
Speaker 2: remember seeing these huge eyes. It was huge. I mean
Speaker 2: it must have been, I don't know because I was
Speaker 2: so young, but it was very large and ominous, and
Speaker 2: I remember experiencing its presence like it was formidable. It
Speaker 2: was scary. I was literally terrified, and it didn't have
Speaker 2: a normal expression on its face, like it wasn't friendly,
Speaker 2: it wasn't it like looked at me like very intense intent,
Speaker 2: and I just took off running into the house. Well
Speaker 2: I had to run past it, but I did like
Speaker 2: a you know, I curved around, you know, I swung
Speaker 2: wide and I got inside, and I had wet my pants,
Speaker 2: and I may have like done more than that, because
Speaker 2: I remember I got in trouble by the parents because
Speaker 2: they didn't have a change of clothes for me, and
Speaker 2: that it became about that. Like I never got that
Speaker 2: part out to them, that there had been you know,
Speaker 2: not that I was very you know, vocal at the
Speaker 2: age of four, but I know that later on we
Speaker 2: had talked about it. My family's well aware that it happened,
Speaker 2: and my dad said, well, maybe it was teenagers or something.
Speaker 2: But he had his own experience when he was ten
Speaker 2: sixty miles north of Spokane when he was hunting, because
Speaker 2: back then they used to hunt really young, back in
Speaker 2: the fifties or sixties whenever it was, and so you know,
Speaker 2: he's more open to these sorts of things than you know,
Speaker 2: like maybe another parent or something. But my entire family
Speaker 2: knew that I had experienced this thing because I'd talked
Speaker 2: about it off and on after that, and then also
Speaker 2: after that I experienced, like right away it was really weird.
Speaker 2: I would go to bed and my bed would shake,
Speaker 2: and then I would get these impressions like it was
Speaker 2: like mine speak, but it was like in unison there
Speaker 2: was more than one voice, and it would be like,
Speaker 2: we are going to get you, just like this chanting
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. It was so bizarre, and I would
Speaker 2: go into my parents' bedroom, I remember, and tell him,
Speaker 2: I'm I can't get rid of that. Oh it's your subconscious.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, it'll be okay, It'll be okay. And
Speaker 2: then at the age of eight, I was baptized, and
Speaker 2: then I had just noticed that I had thought I'd
Speaker 2: grow out of it, But looking back later, I realized
Speaker 2: that that was around the time that that I never
Speaker 2: had those those voices at night. So it wasn't like
Speaker 2: a paranoid sort of schizoid sort of you know event
Speaker 2: or anything like that. It wasn't like that sort of
Speaker 2: development because it would only happen at night, and it
Speaker 2: would only happen when I was, you know, alone, So
Speaker 2: it's not like you know, I was hearing these these
Speaker 2: voices or something. It's when I was alone at night
Speaker 2: in my bed, and then the bed would shake, and
Speaker 2: my dreams were terrible. I mean it would be like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'd have dreams that big hairy creatures were
Speaker 2: coming after me, and and that you know, I would
Speaker 2: freeze in the yard and I would drag my legs
Speaker 2: to the house or I had to protect my little
Speaker 2: kittens or something, and and you know, I would be
Speaker 2: putting up these cardboard walls because you know, the creatures
Speaker 2: would be coming through the walls. It was just always
Speaker 2: really night tears and things like that. And then, like
Speaker 2: I said, when I got baptized, that sort of stuff
Speaker 2: went away. The night terrors, that sleep paralysis still came
Speaker 2: back off and on, but the that mind speaks stuff
Speaker 2: all went away. And I truly do believe that we
Speaker 2: have power in that sort of thing. So that's kind
Speaker 2: of why I led into the whole. You know that
Speaker 2: there was a religious breadthground there and some people don't
Speaker 2: believe that sort of thing. But just whatever your flavor is,
Speaker 2: whatever it is, that was mine and it worked and
Speaker 2: it worked for me at least that's that's my that's
Speaker 2: how I feel about it. And then later on, as
Speaker 2: time went on, some weird stuff happened, like there was
Speaker 2: another incident in Spokan, but it wasn't a it wasn't
Speaker 2: a bigfoot I I saw.
Speaker 1: Like and before we get into that, and I know
Speaker 1: listeners are hating me right now, but we already talked before,
Speaker 1: guys that we're gonna there's going to be kind of
Speaker 1: camp outs through this conversation because I don't want to
Speaker 1: just skip over what you just shared. And it was
Speaker 1: a lot that you just shared, right, and maybe we
Speaker 1: could chat about that for a little bit, Okay, Okay, cool.
Speaker 1: So that was back when you were four that you
Speaker 1: had your first visual when you think for five, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: And when you think of that time your memory that
Speaker 1: you have, do you remember as it was this big
Speaker 1: like ape type creature or it was a big, like
Speaker 1: weird looking human type creature or is there anything like
Speaker 1: that in your mind?
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the confusion because I wasn't sure that
Speaker 2: it was like a bigfoot at the time, because it
Speaker 2: wasn't like a big, hairy ape, but it was if
Speaker 2: you could imagine the outline of one. You could still
Speaker 2: see its eyes and things like that. It was still there, intangible,
Speaker 2: but it was like I was like, I don't know
Speaker 2: how to the only other. I mean, I've seen one
Speaker 2: since and it's not it's the same thing. But this
Speaker 2: was more like a like a creature. I mean, it
Speaker 2: was more like so hard to explain. I heard it
Speaker 2: explained one time on another podcast where this woman had
Speaker 2: come up through Wyoming and she said that she saw
Speaker 2: one that was stretched across the highway and it smiled
Speaker 2: at her, had a big mouth, you know. But she
Speaker 2: said it was like a weird color, like cream or
Speaker 2: something like that. I know that sounds weird, but that's
Speaker 2: what it was like. It wasn't your traditional you know.
Speaker 2: It was like I don't remember so much like the
Speaker 2: hair or fur as I do that it was just
Speaker 2: this huge head and face staring at me. And then
Speaker 2: I saw the body out of the corner of my
Speaker 2: eye slide up behind the tree. But it was huge.
Speaker 2: And then when it came out the front part of
Speaker 2: the tree, its eyes must have been I mean, they
Speaker 2: must have been as big as baseballs. I felt like
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was four or five, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: but big, huge mouth huge.
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about it, So it
Speaker 1: was it kind of a drawn out mouth or do
Speaker 1: you remember any specifics about the mouth? I think it smiled, okay,
Speaker 1: were you able to see teeth when I smiled? Oh
Speaker 1: huh uh? Interesting? And do you remember any other details
Speaker 1: of the face, like maybe skin color?
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. What's got my my memory kind
Speaker 2: of messed up is that I saw it crawl behind
Speaker 2: the tree up to the tree, and when it did that,
Speaker 2: it was a weird thing. It was a weird, not
Speaker 2: normal thing. The way it kind of crept up, like
Speaker 2: it kind of glided up a little bit but was
Speaker 2: on the ground, but kind of it was really weird.
Speaker 2: And so the whole that part of it and then
Speaker 2: it leaning out. The eyes were big, the mouth and
Speaker 2: it like looked at me like I don't know, like
Speaker 2: why I don't know why it didn't grab me like
Speaker 2: that should have come next.
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, you know, because there's
Speaker 1: a point where you had to run past it, but
Speaker 1: you made a wide curve, right, mm hmmm. How did
Speaker 1: did it react to it all? When you did that
Speaker 1: run past.
Speaker 2: I was fight or fight, I had no nothing. As
Speaker 2: soon as as soon as I saw it was like
Speaker 2: I got that whatever adrenaline dump and was gone. I mean,
Speaker 2: thank goodness, you know, at least it wasn't you know,
Speaker 2: to freeze. Yeah, it triggered me to shoot out of there,
Speaker 2: and I don't I just remember just being it just
Speaker 2: had like so fast into the house, like it was
Speaker 2: there's no way I was sticking around.
Speaker 1: How soon after that did the hearing the voices and
Speaker 1: the dreams start.
Speaker 2: I would have to say right away. I mean, because
Speaker 2: my memories go back to that point, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And not a lot of people remember past
Speaker 2: like four or five, right, but I have memories back
Speaker 2: to three, like when my mom brought home my little brother,
Speaker 2: who's three years younger than me. I remember when she
Speaker 2: brought him home, But I don't remember mind speaker anything
Speaker 2: like that. And it wasn't like mine speak, like it
Speaker 2: really wasn't having a communication with me. It was like
Speaker 2: somehow these voices and there was numerous voices were trying
Speaker 2: to scare me and they were chanting, and it's just crazy.
Speaker 2: It's nothing that I heard, Like our house was, you know,
Speaker 2: no one else heard it. Our house was very My
Speaker 2: dad's very protective. He's a marine veteran, you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: just there's just no way that it was coming from
Speaker 2: anywhere else other than what was inside of me. And
Speaker 2: maybe it was just me and my subconscious, but there
Speaker 2: was a correlation, is all I'm saying. I mean it
Speaker 2: certainly I tied it together, and maybe it was a
Speaker 2: trauma response. Maybe maybe it was a trauma response. And
Speaker 2: then maybe you know, just being baptized after that made
Speaker 2: me feel secure and safe, and.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, absolutely the dreams that you would have
Speaker 1: where that you said the big hair creatures would be
Speaker 1: coming after you, Yes, did they look the same as
Speaker 1: what you saw.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they were represented as apes, sometimes they were represented
Speaker 2: as bears. But I have actually had dreams of giants
Speaker 2: before I had my most recent sighting.
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Speaker 2: So I've had I've had dreams that I was up
Speaker 2: on our property up north of Spokane and that there
Speaker 2: was a big flood and then they were like swinging
Speaker 2: down and like they weren't good, but it was like
Speaker 2: some kind of natural disaster and they were coming around
Speaker 2: and they were formidable again, you know, but they were
Speaker 2: at that point like Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: Okay, and this is a dream you had around the
Speaker 1: same time you said that was later in life, No.
Speaker 2: Later later, they've just been ongoing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you've had ongoing dreams like oh yeah really yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So the the the voices stopped after you got baptized,
Speaker 1: but the dreams did not. M No, No, really interesting.
Speaker 2: And that could just be my own fears, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean obviously.
Speaker 1: So M well, yeah that I just wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about that for for a little bit. Oh actually there
Speaker 1: were a few more. So the house that this happened around.
Speaker 1: How close was your closest neighbor at that time.
Speaker 2: Behind us? I'm not sure because because we were up
Speaker 2: on the south like right now, it would it's just
Speaker 2: you know, it's all developed. But I think it was
Speaker 2: just a regular neighborhood where there was forest in the back,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean.
Speaker 2: It came in through the back. It came in through
Speaker 2: the back, for sure, for sure it did, because that's
Speaker 2: the you know, way it traveled. So but it was
Speaker 2: still a populated area. You know, you didn't have to
Speaker 2: go very far to go to the bing Crosby Theater
Speaker 2: down the hill, you know, but it was up high
Speaker 2: on the south hill a bit. But it was just
Speaker 2: way back then. It just wasn't as developed. You didn't
Speaker 2: have your nice model homes that are up there now.
Speaker 2: Behind there was just a lot of open area.
Speaker 1: Do you think your parents believed you at all when
Speaker 1: you would tell them of what happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because my dad has had situations like like I said,
Speaker 2: when he was ten, he was he was hunting in
Speaker 2: a swamp on our property and he said he could
Speaker 2: fill a presence in there, and it scared him and
Speaker 2: he left. He was hunting a deer in there in
Speaker 2: the swamp. It was a big area, and I remember
Speaker 2: riding horses by there before I even knew about what
Speaker 2: happened to him. But you know, I rode horses when
Speaker 2: I was a kid, and I would always look at
Speaker 2: that tree line and think that Native Americans were in
Speaker 2: there watching me or something, because we Native Americans used
Speaker 2: to battle on those grounds, you know. But I don't
Speaker 2: think it was Native American spirits that were looking at me.
Speaker 2: I think it might have been something else, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know sure.
Speaker 1: So you said, there's same same property.
Speaker 2: It not is what I saw in Spokane. This this
Speaker 2: is a different property where just you know, there's just
Speaker 2: a lot of high strangeness in Washington State in general
Speaker 2: and Idaho.
Speaker 1: So yeah, very interesting. I mean, you're right, it did
Speaker 1: start right off the bat for you. But you're free
Speaker 1: to definitely let's let's continue with with what happens next.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, and I mean I think that just kind
Speaker 2: of opened me up to things. You know, I just
Speaker 2: think that I knew it probably traumatized me greatly. It's
Speaker 2: more than anything. And I just I just want to
Speaker 2: put that out there that you know, people that are
Speaker 2: running around looking for bigfoot situations and things like that,
Speaker 2: they're unclean. I don't believe they're clean spirits. They don't
Speaker 2: seem to you know, experience you know, joy or you know,
Speaker 2: love or you know whatever. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: We don't get that close to them, but they certainly
Speaker 2: do like to instill fear upon you and terror, and
Speaker 2: they seem to have a little bit of jealousy too,
Speaker 2: but I'll get into that. They seem to compete or
Speaker 2: have a little bit of ego, and to me, that's
Speaker 2: just you know, those are all those wrong emotions that
Speaker 2: you know, that seems to be what they function on.
Speaker 2: And so I just don't think that they're I don't
Speaker 2: think they're I don't think they're beneficial to humans. I
Speaker 2: think we spend way too much time thinking about them,
Speaker 2: and I think people pursue them. Right now, there's they're
Speaker 2: kind of a novelty. People make money off of it.
Speaker 2: But if you truly are experiencing them like how I
Speaker 2: experience them, and they play games, they manipulate and I'll
Speaker 2: get into that, but they can make you sick like
Speaker 2: I've been sick. I have been sick for days after
Speaker 2: being out in the woods with my dogs after having
Speaker 2: one of them call out my dog's name, you know,
Speaker 2: or something like that. And I've been around them hearing
Speaker 2: the weird noises and stuff, you know, like I'll get
Speaker 2: sick after that, and that's just not good. It's not
Speaker 2: good for you. But so just moving on and I'll
Speaker 2: try not to. But there's been some other weirdness that
Speaker 2: I've experienced, but I'll try to move forward. When I
Speaker 2: moved to Oklahoma, I lived for a couple of years
Speaker 2: in Tulsa Broken Arrow, and I would run to the
Speaker 2: like the come and go or the gas station in
Speaker 2: the morning to exercise, and then I would run back
Speaker 2: and I would have to run through these fields. And
Speaker 2: this one field had a hay the round hay bills,
Speaker 2: and it also had like a culvert area in there,
Speaker 2: and then there was a golf course close to it.
Speaker 2: But sometimes when I would come home, I would just
Speaker 2: know there, like there was a dark thing that was
Speaker 2: standing by that that hey bill, and I would never
Speaker 2: look straight at it, you know. I kind of like
Speaker 2: knew not to do that from the time I was
Speaker 2: a little little one and that happened. I knew not
Speaker 2: to look because I didn't want to know. I didn't
Speaker 2: want to know what I was looking at, and I
Speaker 2: would just go by. But then there was some violent
Speaker 2: tree shake that was going on in the mornings, and
Speaker 2: so then I quit going at dark. I'd wait till
Speaker 2: the light came out and so that there was more
Speaker 2: humans around. Because one time I had gone around, I
Speaker 2: had routed around. I wanted to extend how far I
Speaker 2: was running. I was probably late thirties, early forties, I
Speaker 2: guess around the time, and just trying to get more exercise.
Speaker 2: So I extended my route and I've smelt the smell
Speaker 2: got the formidable weirdness, weird feeling, you know, whatever it was.
Speaker 2: I knew that the tree shaking, I hadn't invested bigfoot
Speaker 2: wasn't quite what it is now right now, there's kind
Speaker 2: of a hysteria on it, but it was more on
Speaker 2: the down low. You didn't really talk about it. But
Speaker 2: I knew that there was something like that, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean just because I had experienced it early in life.
Speaker 2: And sometimes there's things that just aren't explainable. And so
Speaker 2: I remember one time on my way back, I saw
Speaker 2: a print. It was a huge, huge, bare print, and
Speaker 2: it was in the mud because that was a field
Speaker 2: that they had been, you know, obviously there was some
Speaker 2: Timothy Hay or something they had planted in it. Otherwise
Speaker 2: it wouldn't have had bells of Hay in it, but
Speaker 2: it had rained, and there was this big, huge footprint.
Speaker 2: And then I looked around and there was no other footprints.
Speaker 2: And so me not knowing like how it goes. I mean,
Speaker 2: I knew what I saw when I was little, but
Speaker 2: I didn't know that they can just have a print
Speaker 2: and then go away, like you can see just one
Speaker 2: print and then there's no prints, no other prints, and
Speaker 2: that's what I saw. I saw one print and then
Speaker 2: there was no other prince, and so I discounted it
Speaker 2: because I thought, well, there's no other print, so that's
Speaker 2: not a big foot. So I'll check that off. And
Speaker 2: I mean, now hearing other people say yeah, there was
Speaker 2: just one print and then it's like it dissipated or
Speaker 2: went away, now I would know like, oh, well, that
Speaker 2: was legitimately a footprint. I mean, that's legitimately a bigfoot,
Speaker 2: but I just kind of discounted it. I moved to
Speaker 2: North Idaho. I had my families from North Idaho Northeast Washington.
Speaker 2: I moved to North Idaho and I started going on
Speaker 2: I'm in a community. It's a small community, and we
Speaker 2: are just surrounded by mountains. I mean there's just hardly
Speaker 2: any flat land at all. And I started going on
Speaker 2: the trail on my bike with my dog, I have
Speaker 2: a German shepherd, and started experiencing really strange stuff. The
Speaker 2: tree the violent tree shaking to where it couldn't just
Speaker 2: be something shaking the trees, like every leaf is shaking.
Speaker 2: It was really weird in broad daylight. Just different stuff
Speaker 2: that I was experiencing. And then there's some real weirdness
Speaker 2: to this area. But I'm going to go into my
Speaker 2: elks story. This happened in twenty nineteen. In twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: My family's well aware of it. My manager at work
Speaker 2: heard about it that morning. The jam that works where
Speaker 2: I worked, had had a situation back when he was five,
Speaker 2: behind one of our famous restaurants here along the river.
Speaker 2: He had gone up to the chicken coop behind their
Speaker 2: house or behind the restaurant because they had a house
Speaker 2: up there and they had a bear hanging that they
Speaker 2: had just gutted and killed and it was hanging in
Speaker 2: the tree. And he said that he watched a big
Speaker 2: foot walk across the chicken it actually upright step over
Speaker 2: the chicken like wire, because it had been out there
Speaker 2: investigating that bear hanging there. And so, and this is
Speaker 2: a common theme. You know, you'll talk to people who
Speaker 2: hunt and they hang, they'll hang different stuff and then
Speaker 2: they'll get slaps on there on their houses and things
Speaker 2: like that. So you know, it's kind of talked about
Speaker 2: amongst certain people that and then you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 2: not others, I don't know, but anyhow, so morning, it
Speaker 2: was in twenty nineteen or twenty twenty, it was December
Speaker 2: or January. It was snowing out. Well, actually I got
Speaker 2: to go to the night before because this is going
Speaker 2: to explain how these things think. They're very, very manipulative.
Speaker 2: So I go out. I've got my dog. She loves
Speaker 2: these tennis pen tennis balls that are like greenish yellow
Speaker 2: that you buy Ace hardware. You open the can, three
Speaker 2: come out, you know, and then I have a ball
Speaker 2: launch And so I launched the ball down the hill
Speaker 2: because then she has to run up the hill and
Speaker 2: she gets more exercise out of it quickly, so you know,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of make her do more work, right, So
Speaker 2: I'm doing the ball launching. This is like, oh, probably
Speaker 2: about six o'clock at night, maybe earlier. I guess it
Speaker 2: would be dark. So it was earlier because it was
Speaker 2: that time of year. So I don't know it was
Speaker 2: it was. It was the night before, but it wasn't
Speaker 2: dark out. The herd had come in. The elk herd
Speaker 2: had come. They come across from the north, they cross
Speaker 2: the highway and they come up and then they go
Speaker 2: up onto the southern mountains and so they're just very
Speaker 2: it's very common to see them. You know, they'll they'll
Speaker 2: migrate over, but they're they're just really doing their like
Speaker 2: they're sticking together, the cows and the calves. So as
Speaker 2: these were first year calves and they were all following
Speaker 2: their moms. And there's like different tiers levels of ground
Speaker 2: that they go on, and they follow these little wildlife trails,
Speaker 2: you know, and you can watch them where I'm at,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to stay where I'm at because
Speaker 2: I've been going there a long time and I don't
Speaker 2: want to I just don't want to call it out.
Speaker 2: But anyways, so they cross over in front of me
Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there throwing this launching this ball with
Speaker 2: my dog and I'm yelling at her and not not mean,
Speaker 2: but you know, we're having a good time. And the
Speaker 2: cows turn with their antenna ears, you know that you
Speaker 2: could tell their face and you know, they got their
Speaker 2: ears out there, just kind of curious as to what
Speaker 2: the heck we're doing because that dog keeps running after
Speaker 2: the ball and running up the hill and it was
Speaker 2: kind of entertaining. Well, they're babies. Two of the babies
Speaker 2: start jumping around and playing. I mean, it was almost
Speaker 2: like Rich and Rudolph and Reindeer gave it it was
Speaker 2: so cute, you know, because the dog was jumping around
Speaker 2: and excited, and so the little calves. It was they
Speaker 2: were far away, but they could still see and I
Speaker 2: could see them and they're jumping around. I thought, that
Speaker 2: is the most adorable thing ever, you know, because I
Speaker 2: had incited like this joyful play in them, or I hadn't,
Speaker 2: my dog had, but you know, us, we together had
Speaker 2: done that, and so I thought, wow, what a memory.
Speaker 2: So I posted on social media, you know, because it
Speaker 2: was so exciting for me. I was like, oh, these
Speaker 2: calves were playing. It was so cute, you know, and
Speaker 2: just that they had responded like that. And then the
Speaker 2: next morning I went out because I wanted I had
Speaker 2: to go to work, and I wanted to take her
Speaker 2: out because she was home all day long, and I
Speaker 2: took her out early. It was about seven am, and
Speaker 2: I hear this cow elk screaming, and she's to my north. Well,
Speaker 2: these cows last the night before had been to my
Speaker 2: south because they had crossed up and over the road.
Speaker 2: So this cow elk is just bellowing. She's screaming her
Speaker 2: head off, and they only do that if something's taken
Speaker 2: their baby, like she was. She wouldn't shut up. It
Speaker 2: was super loud. The other cows had crossed over, and
Speaker 2: they were doing it quickly, so they weren't like casually walking.
Speaker 2: So there was something down there and I thought it
Speaker 2: might be a coyote or something, you know, and I
Speaker 2: didn't know, but it was kind of disturbing because they
Speaker 2: had just been playing and I didn't know if it
Speaker 2: was one of those cows or not. You know, not
Speaker 2: to get too attached or anything, but you know, that
Speaker 2: would have been a bummer. Anyways, So I'm sitting there
Speaker 2: and I'm watching. I'm trying to see where the cow
Speaker 2: is screaming from, and I couldn't see it. But then
Speaker 2: there's these two big hills, and then there's a bridge
Speaker 2: that's on a trail, and this upright figure walks right
Speaker 2: across that bridge in between the two hills. And this is,
Speaker 2: you know, pretty far away. It's about maybe an eighth
Speaker 2: of a mile, maybe a quarter of a mile. I
Speaker 2: can't really measure it. I've shown my like kids and
Speaker 2: stuff and where it's at and on a map and stuff,
Speaker 2: but I can't really measure it. But it's close enough
Speaker 2: to where I could see an upright figure walk across.
Speaker 2: I couldn't distinguish if it was a man or not.
Speaker 2: But it was a really tall, upright thing.
Speaker 1: Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?
Speaker 2: And in the back of my mind, I thought, where's
Speaker 2: the baby calf? It wasn't holding it, so it was
Speaker 2: not a bigfoot. I don't know why I thought that.
Speaker 2: I don't even know why I thought it was a bigfoot,
Speaker 2: probably because she's screaming her head off and why would
Speaker 2: there be a human so close to her, because it
Speaker 2: was coming from that area, and I was like, this
Speaker 2: is so weird, this is so bizarre. I didn't see
Speaker 2: clothes on it because it crossed over that so quickly.
Speaker 2: But I couldn't get a gauge on I don't know,
Speaker 2: like it was right beyond my it wasn't close enough
Speaker 2: to me to where I could get a gauge, And
Speaker 2: it went so quickly that I couldn't figure out what
Speaker 2: it was, but I knew that it was big, and
Speaker 2: so I got in my car and with my dog
Speaker 2: and I drove down and through the field where you
Speaker 2: would have to see that person walking, and it's for
Speaker 2: like half a mile and then half a mile the
Speaker 2: other way. There's no way in the amount of time
Speaker 2: that I raced down there that that person could be gone.
Speaker 2: Within that period of time. You would still see them
Speaker 2: walking into town or away from town either way. Right,
Speaker 2: I was outside of town, but you would have to
Speaker 2: see them on that trail because that trail goes for
Speaker 2: miles and it's open. And so I went down there
Speaker 2: and I crept down to the bank, and at that point,
Speaker 2: I'm not thinking it's bigfoot. I'm thinking I just need
Speaker 2: to see a guy. I just need to see a person.
Speaker 2: And I'm with my dog and there's no one there,
Speaker 2: and I go and I look for any footprints. There's
Speaker 2: nothing there. There was nothing there. It was snowing, there
Speaker 2: was snow out, so there should be prints unless he
Speaker 2: was had stopped and hid up somewhere. I mean, you
Speaker 2: just you would see him. There was a I could
Speaker 2: see back down to the bridge that he was on,
Speaker 2: but there was no print. So something weird was going on.
Speaker 2: And so I went back up towards my car because
Speaker 2: I'm trying to take this in because you know, when
Speaker 2: something like this happens, you're kind of you got you
Speaker 2: have cognitive dissonance. You're like, Okay, don't overthink this. This
Speaker 2: is like what is this? Like? You know what I mean,
Speaker 2: It's just it was weird all of its sudden. I
Speaker 2: see this elk come running at me from two hills away.
Speaker 2: She comes barreling towards me, and then she disappears. Well
Speaker 2: that's because she went down. And then she came up
Speaker 2: the other hill closer to me, and she's coming right
Speaker 2: at me, and she gets to be about fifty feet
Speaker 2: away from me. I can see the steam in her nostrils.
Speaker 2: I'm all we have is like some weeds between us,
Speaker 2: but they have no leaves on them, so like they're
Speaker 2: basically just sticks. I have nothing to protect myself, and
Speaker 2: my dog's not chasing her, and I don't understand what's
Speaker 2: going on, right, I don't understand, Like I don't want
Speaker 2: my dog to chase her, but I'm like going to
Speaker 2: get trampled. And so then in my mind I'm thinking, okay,
Speaker 2: is this a bull? And then I'm like, wait, bulls
Speaker 2: don't lose their antlers until like April. This is December, January,
Speaker 2: whatever it was. It was winter, and so I'm like,
Speaker 2: this is a cow. And so she looks, she looks
Speaker 2: at me. She just keeps staring at me, staring at me,
Speaker 2: trying to like assess who I was or what I was.
Speaker 2: And then she looks back at my dog behind me,
Speaker 2: and then she turns back and chases off to the
Speaker 2: to the south, and just and just like, she shoots
Speaker 2: over to the to the south, not where she had
Speaker 2: come from, but where the other ones were going. She
Speaker 2: was probably gonna meet up with them or whatever. And
Speaker 2: I'm just sitting there scratching my head like I almost died.
Speaker 2: She almost trampled me. And then I thought, why would
Speaker 2: she trample me? Why was she after me? Why did
Speaker 2: she see an upright person walking and come after me?
Speaker 2: What grabbed your baby? And I mean, this is all true.
Speaker 2: I would take a light detector. I swear to you,
Speaker 2: this is all true. This all happened, and she was
Speaker 2: after me. But and I saw an upright thing walk
Speaker 2: across the bridge, but I never saw the calf. But
Speaker 2: I will say this, and I have video of this.
Speaker 2: Every year or thereafter, a cow will stand in that place,
Speaker 2: right around there, waiting for a baby, like babies are
Speaker 2: getting taken, like I don't know if it's you know,
Speaker 2: there's coyotes and there's bear there too, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. But it was a mother that her baby
Speaker 2: had gotten taken from her. And now this is going
Speaker 2: to sound really weird, but I went to where Can.
Speaker 2: I told my manager about it, and he was like,
Speaker 2: you got really lucky, and I know what that sounds like.
Speaker 2: I had to rescue a baby calf that was cut,
Speaker 2: you know, because they hunt around here. This is just
Speaker 2: kind of the way it is. And he goes, you
Speaker 2: were really fortunate to see that, you know, and he
Speaker 2: believed me, I think, but he was nice about it.
Speaker 2: But other people at work that had seen things like
Speaker 2: this also came up with their stories, like the one
Speaker 2: that I told you that they hung a bear and
Speaker 2: he had seen it, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 2: I'm not embarrassed to tell the story. The freakiest part
Speaker 2: about it is what's the point of it, right, Well,
Speaker 2: the point of it that bigfoot had seen me the
Speaker 2: night before and had seen those babies celebrating. And I
Speaker 2: swear to you, I just got this feeling as soon
Speaker 2: as all this went down, that that bigfoot was punishing
Speaker 2: me because I cared.
Speaker 1: H That's really interesting.
Speaker 2: And that's the part, you know, isn't that weird.
Speaker 1: That it is a very that's unlike anything I've ever heard.
Speaker 1: To be honest, you're saying multiple other people have experienced
Speaker 1: similar things in the same area.
Speaker 2: Well, not like that, but they've seen them, you know,
Speaker 2: like they've seen them up closer. But yes, they've they're
Speaker 2: you know, and I mean out where I am. After that,
Speaker 2: there was I have pictures of it, and I posted
Speaker 2: on Facebook because I wanted to know about some of
Speaker 2: the local hikers. They go hiking everywhere, whant to see
Speaker 2: if they'd ever seen these bones. They were laid out.
Speaker 2: There was moose, el deer all lined up like different
Speaker 2: ages of bones. I have the pictures. I mean, I
Speaker 2: have receipts for stuff. Right when I experienced stuff, I
Speaker 2: take pictures. I have Like a moose liver was left
Speaker 2: for me last year. I called fishing game because it
Speaker 2: would have been approaching incident. It was in the summer.
Speaker 2: They're like, we don't know, like why just deliver you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? It was left where my car parked.
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't get that.
Speaker 2: Why you're telling me totally man. I mean, it wasn't
Speaker 2: a dumping. It wasn't any thing dumping my dogs. This
Speaker 2: sounds kind of silly, but my dog's balls disappear the
Speaker 2: tennis balls, and they'll pop up in the same place,
Speaker 2: like just weird mind games, like really weird mind games.
Speaker 2: And I was hiking one day and I have I
Speaker 2: have the the text message my roommate. I had taken
Speaker 2: her out like a couple of days before to where
Speaker 2: I was hiking, and this is around where this all
Speaker 2: went on, you know, with this with this cow elp,
Speaker 2: and I took my dog. I had a little i'd
Speaker 2: have a little shit so and the German shepherd at
Speaker 2: this time, because I'd gotten the shit to my dad,
Speaker 2: brought her to me as a rescue. And anyways, so
Speaker 2: I'm hiking. Three days I took her hiking, the roommate,
Speaker 2: and then three days later I went hiking alone. And
Speaker 2: I remember I took a picture of this thing and
Speaker 2: I said, was this there when we were hiking? And
Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, that was there. And then we went
Speaker 2: up this hill towards the mountain and I hear this.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say my dog's name because people
Speaker 2: know me, but it's a two syllable name and it's
Speaker 2: very unique. It's German. And I hear that, and then
Speaker 2: my dog did too, and it was twice. We hear
Speaker 2: this twice, and it's in my roommate's voice, and I'm like, gosh,
Speaker 2: she came out here. I thought I was going to
Speaker 2: have privacy. You know. I'm kind of being kind of
Speaker 2: like a brat about it, right because I'm thinking, ah,
Speaker 2: she followed me out here. I thought she was going
Speaker 2: down by the river. I wanted some time. No, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. She knows my hike spot and
Speaker 2: she's coming without, you know. And so I texted her,
Speaker 2: I said, are you here? She goes, No, I'm taking
Speaker 2: a shower. I'm back at the house. And I said,
Speaker 2: I just heard you yell, and I have the text messages.
Speaker 2: I said, I heard you yell my dog's name, you know.
Speaker 2: And I said her name, and she goes. I believe you,
Speaker 2: she goes, but I swear to you, he goes. I
Speaker 2: was down at the river. Look, these are the pictures.
Speaker 2: I took them here at the house right now. She
Speaker 2: took a picture, you know, and I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh. My dog even heard it and perked up
Speaker 2: and was like we were confused as to what to
Speaker 2: do next. We thought it was her. Her name was Kristin.
Speaker 2: I thought it was Kristin because it was in her
Speaker 2: voice and there was nobody around, do you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's extremely strange and very unsettling. Are there a
Speaker 1: lot of like missing person cases in that area? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: and probably we don't want to go into names for
Speaker 1: respect and also for privacy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's just high weirdness. You know, there's some
Speaker 2: high weirdness, and then other people who are aren't connected
Speaker 2: to it, or who don't aren't sensitive to it, would
Speaker 2: say no, you know, because they don't get out or
Speaker 2: they don't you know. I mean, it's just anywhere you go,
Speaker 2: there is especially high weirdness here. I think because of
Speaker 2: the mountains that would be the correlation. I'd say there's
Speaker 2: more high weirdness here than there was where I grew up,
Speaker 2: way more. I mean, this is like a mecca. But
Speaker 2: I think it's connected to the Elk. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's anything else other than the Elk. And I have
Speaker 2: a theory. They really want to manage animals, they really do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they think they are in charge, and you know, I
Speaker 2: just believe that the man was given dominion over all
Speaker 2: the creatures. I think they are a competition. We're competition
Speaker 2: for that. And I don't even think they use the
Speaker 2: same parts of the animal that we do. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's really not competition. I think it has to do
Speaker 2: with different degrees of glory. I think it has something
Speaker 2: to do with things that are ancient, things that are
Speaker 2: beyond us that we don't know. I think it keeps
Speaker 2: our eyes on them. When we chase after them or
Speaker 2: we focus on them, we're glorifying them, and that's what
Speaker 2: they're looking for. I think that they know ways that
Speaker 2: we don't. I don't think they're, you know, like necessarily
Speaker 2: all evil. You'll hear about some savings. Some you know,
Speaker 2: that's fine and dandy. Obviously they're able to procreate, but
Speaker 2: I don't know that they Some people say that they
Speaker 2: see them and they look like they've lived forever. I
Speaker 2: don't know that they really can die. I don't know,
Speaker 2: And I don't know that they're all the way here either,
Speaker 2: But I know that they have supernatural gifts that I know.
Speaker 2: They've been around for a while, and I know that
Speaker 2: like in the LDS or Mormon religion, and it's not
Speaker 2: talked about, but some of the apostles have seen them
Speaker 2: and talked about them, the early pioneers. They've written, it's
Speaker 2: in you know, history, and so it's like, I mean,
Speaker 2: one occasion was like eighteen thirty five, you know. And
Speaker 2: I don't really want to get too much into that
Speaker 2: because I'm not trying to say anything about that. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying that there's things that have been happening for
Speaker 2: a long time. It's not just a recent thing, right.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. And I mean it's not just you know,
Speaker 1: in the Mormon writings. I mean there's multiple accounts in
Speaker 1: that time period, the eighteen hundreds of wild Man's sightings
Speaker 1: all over the country. It's incredible.
Speaker 2: I know, yeah it is. But I think that I
Speaker 2: think that I don't know, they just master things. But
Speaker 2: I feel protected, like I know who I am. I
Speaker 2: know I'm like a child of God. I know that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I know where I come from.
Speaker 2: I know I do have dominion over animals. I'm not
Speaker 2: out you know, hunting elk right now, like alone, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not in fear, but I haven't camped
Speaker 2: for a long time.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It does kind of keep me. I'm careful, and I
Speaker 2: have an underwater whistle that I blow. When they do
Speaker 2: the tree knocks, I'll notice there's a correlation to when
Speaker 2: they flush out deer like I would. I heard a
Speaker 2: couple of years. Maybe it was a last year or
Speaker 2: the year before, I heard a tree knock when I
Speaker 2: pulled up to take my dogs out and it was one,
Speaker 2: two and then three, and then I thought, okay, started
Speaker 2: walking back to my car. I was like, I'm not
Speaker 2: doing that well obviously right, And then I look up
Speaker 2: and this hurd a deer got flushed out of the
Speaker 2: woods on the other side, and then they started running
Speaker 2: back up into the woods and they got flushed out again.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Like you're hearing tree knocks trade outside your house?
Speaker 2: No, this is just I went. It's about three miles away.
Speaker 2: It's like two ridges over. Yeah, because I take my
Speaker 2: dog somewhere else to go running where we're not because
Speaker 2: I'm in a neighborhood here, I'm kind of by I'm
Speaker 2: right outside a mountain. I'm looking at a mountain right now.
Speaker 2: But there's some neighbors, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 2: I don't have any situations around my house to speak of.
Speaker 2: I know the neighbors said that she saw someone in
Speaker 2: the garbage that was really big, with a big hood
Speaker 2: that ran really flat, and I didn't ask any question.
Speaker 2: But other than that, you know what I mean, there's
Speaker 2: just and I have chickens and stuff.
Speaker 1: Like that, big for society, who will be right back
Speaker 1: after these messages.
Speaker 2: So I don't even you know, I don't have any
Speaker 2: issues with them coming here. I don't have those issues.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, you know. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: even want to really talk because I don't want to.
Speaker 2: I don't want to conjure anything up.
Speaker 1: No, I get you, you know, I get that feeling
Speaker 1: where it's like you want to be careful what you
Speaker 1: talk about. The area where you heard the tree knocks.
Speaker 1: Do you ever hear any other strange sounds out there
Speaker 1: that don't belong?
Speaker 2: Or yes, okay, so here's something else and this I
Speaker 2: can't put together. So and oh I have video too
Speaker 2: where I started to record because I had you. And
Speaker 2: I came home and called my sister of Florida and said,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, listen to this. She goes, I can
Speaker 2: hear it. So what happened was I went up on
Speaker 2: this hill and there's this activity area. I don't want
Speaker 2: to name it out too much. But there's this activity
Speaker 2: area which is not very populated because it's not very popular.
Speaker 2: There's other activity areas you know, people can go to.
Speaker 2: But anyhow, no one was out there. I took my
Speaker 2: dogs and I was ball launching and my dog sometimes
Speaker 2: she winds up, the German shepherd. She gets excited over
Speaker 2: the balls like a coonhound would over a raccoon or something.
Speaker 2: It just is ridiculous, right, but she gets really excited
Speaker 2: and so she starts doing that, you know, that sort
Speaker 2: of thing. But it's loud. So she was doing that
Speaker 2: and then until I released the ball and she can
Speaker 2: go run because when she's running, she can't scream anymore, right,
Speaker 2: so then she goes and runs. Well, she did that
Speaker 2: a couple times, and right behind us in the woodline,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't very far away. It was maybe twenty
Speaker 2: feet into the woodline, I heard this electronic like a backup,
Speaker 2: like a trailer, you know what I mean, just a
Speaker 2: weird out of this world. It wasn't really a trailer backup.
Speaker 2: It wasn't mechanical, but it kind of sounded like it.
Speaker 2: But it was loud, okay, And I thought, what is
Speaker 2: that and it would it would get loud and then dissipate,
Speaker 2: and then get loud and then dissipate. And then I
Speaker 2: heard like little cries, you know, like I was tempted
Speaker 2: to go in and check on what it was, and
Speaker 2: I did not, and instead I turned on my phone
Speaker 2: and started recording. And I do have some of those cries.
Speaker 1: And you have that recorded. So were they like like
Speaker 1: baby cries.
Speaker 2: Or At first I thought it sounded like baby cries,
Speaker 2: but then I thought maybe it was an animal, like
Speaker 2: a calf or something. So I thought maybe it was
Speaker 2: an animal that was being asphyxiated. And I thought, but gosh,
Speaker 2: why that timing. Why did that weird electronic noise spark
Speaker 2: up when my dog was making that weird noise. It's
Speaker 2: like it got attracted to it and then started doing
Speaker 2: its thing. It was weird, really weird, And I do
Speaker 2: have it on I have a recording and it has
Speaker 2: the little cries. You can you can hear them. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not loud like being there right, but you can
Speaker 2: still hear it. And towards the end it kind of
Speaker 2: sounded like maybe it was a baby deer or a
Speaker 2: or a full grown one. But I went back in there. Huh,
Speaker 2: I don't know why. A few weeks later, there was
Speaker 2: a big elk bone just laying right out in the
Speaker 2: open where it shouldn't be. And I've took that like
Speaker 2: as a warning, you know what I mean. But there
Speaker 2: was no dead elk carcass or carry on inside or anything.
Speaker 2: So another time I went out in the same area,
Speaker 2: I show up. It's in the afternoon, I get my
Speaker 2: dogs out, and all of a sudden, I hear that
Speaker 2: loud beeping, like electronic, but it wasn't in the woodline.
Speaker 2: It was down. It was like, I don't know, it
Speaker 2: was super loud, like almost like an alarm, like almost
Speaker 2: like and this is going to sound a little bit crazy,
Speaker 2: but you know that one thing that they show like
Speaker 2: they say that they see and it's like this tall
Speaker 2: thing that they call like radiohead or something like that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yep, that it sounded like that.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: I got into my car and left.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh man, it was.
Speaker 2: It was a electronic loud alarm sound and no one
Speaker 2: was around, and I'm just like, this is nuts. And
Speaker 2: there was a vibration, you could feel a vibration, but
Speaker 2: it was just there was no reason for it. Because
Speaker 2: there's no alarms there. There's nothing there.
Speaker 1: When you're saying you feel a vibration, can you so
Speaker 1: you were feeling it like like it was affecting you
Speaker 1: or can you describe a little bit more of what
Speaker 1: you mean by that.
Speaker 2: So the noise was loud, but it resonated like a vibration, Okay,
Speaker 2: So it felt you could feel a vibration like like physically,
Speaker 2: I don't remember physically putting my hand on anything and
Speaker 2: feeling a vibration, but you could feel that it was
Speaker 2: a vibration somehow. I don't know how to explain it,
Speaker 2: just that it was a vibration.
Speaker 1: Did your emotional state change it all during that time?
Speaker 2: I have what happens when stuff like that happens is
Speaker 2: I do the flight yep, And so I get mad
Speaker 2: and do the flight okay. And so when that happens,
Speaker 2: what what I will say happens is I get sick,
Speaker 2: but my emotions don't like I don't want to I
Speaker 2: don't want to go right then investigate because I know
Speaker 2: that it's something, probably bad, something Look you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, And I know that it's a warning to me,
Speaker 2: just like I feel like anytime i've dealt with this stuff.
Speaker 2: Even with that cow elk with the calf, it's like
Speaker 2: always a warning. And here's one more thing I have
Speaker 2: to tell you. So on that same trail, right after
Speaker 2: that cow elk sing happened, my dogs and I will
Speaker 2: go down this trail and this is where I found
Speaker 2: this old pickaxe. It was just awesome. I still have it.
Speaker 2: But we go down this really steep trail and there's
Speaker 2: no trees where we go. You have to go up
Speaker 2: the mountain up on top because it's just covered with
Speaker 2: like there's old mining stuff, you know, like not stuff,
Speaker 2: but like the ground is not there's no trees right
Speaker 2: until you get up on top, and then there's trees
Speaker 2: everywhere galore. Right. So I went in one day and
Speaker 2: this tree that was about ten foot twelve foot tall
Speaker 2: was laying right there. It had been ripped off and
Speaker 2: it probably had about, I don't know, eight inch ten
Speaker 2: inch circumference, healthy tree, perfectly healthy. I have pictures, And
Speaker 2: I thought, what broke that off and threw it here?
Speaker 2: Because you can't, I mean, you have to bring it there.
Speaker 2: And why is it right here where I walk? And
Speaker 2: why is it broke off? It wasn't you know it
Speaker 2: wasn't axed or chainsawed, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 2: wasn't sod so it was ripped and the bark was
Speaker 2: broken around it. It was a brand new tree, so
Speaker 2: it's like something through it there like stayed away from here,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's right right where we go.
Speaker 2: We are always right there.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that one area sounds extremely weird. I don't know
Speaker 1: how often I would go there by myself, to be honest. No,
Speaker 1: there's just some really really weird stuff that you're experiencing
Speaker 1: in whatever this one area is. And you said earlier
Speaker 1: that this this town has a lot of high strangeness
Speaker 1: in it. So is there other stuff going on besides Bigfoot?
Speaker 1: And if you don't want to get into it, I
Speaker 1: totally respect that and we can move on.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of suicides, okay, gotcha. And one was
Speaker 4: just in the woods wow, so oh boy, And it
Speaker 4: was a big deal, so just a month ago. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so it was a local pastor to hear, but that
Speaker 4: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't tie that to anything. I'm sure his family,
Speaker 2: you know, so it was. But other than that, there's young,
Speaker 2: a lot of young suicides, and I don't want to
Speaker 2: speak for anyone else, because there was also an incident
Speaker 2: which was weird and I think I can't remember his name,
Speaker 2: but there was a podcast that was done on this
Speaker 2: kid that I know who his mom is, but he
Speaker 2: just had called her and then like someone was pursuing
Speaker 2: him or something, and then you know, they found him
Speaker 2: up on a gould but nobody knows. But then right
Speaker 2: before that, there was like two suicides which were really
Speaker 2: odd type. So but you know, that just sounds like
Speaker 2: it's more like.
Speaker 3: Humans, you know, bad behavior, right, maybe if there was
Speaker 3: some sort of thing going on that wasn't there's just
Speaker 3: a lot of speculation as to whether they were or not,
Speaker 3: you know, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know those situations or if there's anything to those,
Speaker 2: and I just try to stay away from that because
Speaker 2: I think if you get caught up in that, that's
Speaker 2: the type of spirit you don't want to be friendly with,
Speaker 2: because you know, who needs to be depressed, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I get that. Are there also a lot
Speaker 1: of like UFO sightings or things like that in the
Speaker 1: same area.
Speaker 2: There's there's so many mountains, it's you know, there's not
Speaker 2: a lot of there's sky, but it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I haven't you know, had any, but
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised, you know. But I know when
Speaker 2: there was an avalanche and there was a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago and there was a doctor who died and
Speaker 2: then they had the helicopter go up and rescue, well
Speaker 2: didn't rescue, but you know, got recovered the body. And
Speaker 2: so there was a big thing that went around, the
Speaker 2: coyotes are out, keep your dogs in. They're going crazy,
Speaker 2: they're going crazy. And I was listening to them, and
Speaker 2: they those were not coyotes, it's all. It wasn't a
Speaker 2: like feeble attempt to make coyote howls, but that was
Speaker 2: I figured it was something else trying to sound like coyotes.
Speaker 2: And they were angry over those helicopters, you know, because
Speaker 2: it was right when they were doing that stuff up there.
Speaker 1: Was it because the sound of it was much louder.
Speaker 1: What were the main things that tipped you off that
Speaker 1: it wasn't actually coyotes.
Speaker 2: Well, I grew up around coyotes, so I can almost
Speaker 2: imitate a kai right like you can call them in.
Speaker 2: So but they didn't. It was louder and more they
Speaker 2: carried on more like extended out the howl and it
Speaker 2: took different like tones. I mean, it just didn't it
Speaker 2: didn't sound like it wasn't a coyote. It was like
Speaker 2: trying to sound like a kyote, but it didn't. There's
Speaker 2: no coyote that ever sounded like that. I've never heard
Speaker 2: a coyote make those sounds. At some point they sounded
Speaker 2: similar to kyote. And then they would extend it out
Speaker 2: and it would go too far, and then it would
Speaker 2: change tone, and it's like that's not someone imitated, but
Speaker 2: it's too loud to be a person, you see what
Speaker 2: I mean. Yeah, it's hard to explain. I did try
Speaker 2: to record it out my front window or my front
Speaker 2: door because you could hear it, but I couldn't capture it.
Speaker 2: So but I did capture those those noises from the
Speaker 2: cries in the woodline, and I just think that's really
Speaker 2: close to two dogs and a person to be killing
Speaker 2: if it was a predator. I mean, what are the
Speaker 2: chances it was killing something that was crying out like
Speaker 2: that that close to me to where I could record it, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Or even you know, another way to look at it is,
Speaker 1: you know places like southeast Alaska. They they talk about
Speaker 1: how they hear cries in the woods and it's a
Speaker 1: way that you know, the hairy man is trying to
Speaker 1: lure people into the woods because they're going to see
Speaker 1: see if there's a baby in trouble. And usually this
Speaker 1: is there's like a you know, there's a woman involved.
Speaker 1: Like they often know that if they use this type
Speaker 1: of baby cry, they have a better chance of getting
Speaker 1: them lured into the woods. So it's just that that
Speaker 1: kind of came to mind when I was hearing your
Speaker 1: story as well. Big for society, who will be right
Speaker 1: back after these messages.
Speaker 2: That's good. That's good because my dreams from even before
Speaker 2: this happened are about me rescuing little kids or animals
Speaker 2: and trying to keep them safe. What is that about?
Speaker 2: And then I'm in the woods and these sounds come out,
Speaker 2: and you would think that I would go and rescue them,
Speaker 2: but I don't because I don't trust because I saw
Speaker 2: one when I was, you know, young, and I know
Speaker 2: I know that they're there. I mean I don't know
Speaker 2: what they are. I don't know how dangerous they are.
Speaker 2: I think that they have like a I think there's
Speaker 2: stipulations to their existence. I think that they're not supposed
Speaker 2: to mess with us. I mean that's I truly truly
Speaker 2: believe that. I believe there's various degrees of glory, and
Speaker 2: I believe that, you know, we're here for a purpose,
Speaker 2: they're there for another purpose and our world's collide. But
Speaker 2: they're not supposed to mess with us. But I do
Speaker 2: believe they're jealous of us. And it's obviously not because
Speaker 2: we have wonderful skills, because they outclass us one hundred percent, right,
Speaker 2: But somehow they are always trying to prove that they
Speaker 2: are in charge of the animals, and I don't know
Speaker 2: what that's about.
Speaker 1: It's really interesting viewpoint. I really haven't heard a lot
Speaker 1: on when I've been doing interviews over the last few years,
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of curious to ask you, how is
Speaker 1: it that you view these creatures, like, how would you
Speaker 1: describe what a.
Speaker 2: Then anytime I hear anybody start to get into the hole, Oh,
Speaker 2: they could survive in the wild, and you know, this
Speaker 2: could be their forge for this and they could live there,
Speaker 2: I just want to laugh because I know they're not
Speaker 2: here all the time. They're not like that. I'm not
Speaker 2: they can't bear. They're not They're not like a bear
Speaker 2: or organic. They're not of this earth like we are.
Speaker 2: They're like on a different you know, they're in a
Speaker 2: different place. And I'm not saying they don't manifest physically,
Speaker 2: but I think they've you know, I think we've heard
Speaker 2: enough about them, at least in folklore and also in literature,
Speaker 2: and also in sightings, which isn't folklore, to where we
Speaker 2: know that they do things we don't know how to do.
Speaker 2: But I don't think they're special. I think they want
Speaker 2: to be worshiped, and I think they want to worship
Speaker 2: could be anything. You know, We've got big foot pictures
Speaker 2: and people focus on them and make money.
Speaker 1: Off it, statues in some towns even you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's very interesting to think about that way. You think
Speaker 1: there could be maybe portals involved, or.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever that is. There's people that know so much
Speaker 2: more about that. And I think I have an idea,
Speaker 2: but it seems like every time I get into that
Speaker 2: or talk about it, I have like I just I
Speaker 2: go it just it doesn't sit well because I feel
Speaker 2: like I feel like I'm too vulnerable. I don't like
Speaker 2: it to affect my I really I really just like
Speaker 2: to live you know, here and now. Like I find
Speaker 2: pleasure in things like how cute those elk were doing that?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Exactly?
Speaker 2: I find pleasure in like, you know, taking care of
Speaker 2: my chickens and the cute stuff they do, my dogs,
Speaker 2: my grandkids, my you know what I mean. There's just
Speaker 2: so much to enjoy in this world. I really do
Speaker 2: enjoy things, absolutely, but whenever I deal with that part
Speaker 2: of things, even from a really young age, I feel
Speaker 2: like they just put a lot of terror and worry
Speaker 2: and stress and just they make you worry. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can't even go out hiking without hearing them call
Speaker 2: my dog's name. You know what I mean? Well, yeah
Speaker 2: I can. They don't call it every time, but or
Speaker 2: a ball disappears, and it's when you least expect expect it,
Speaker 2: and then you get all these balls where you've never been.
Speaker 2: You go picking and there's all the balls in perfect shape,
Speaker 2: and they're your balls. You've been missing them. In fact,
Speaker 2: when I was texting that roommate about hearing her call
Speaker 2: out my dog's name, I said, oh, and I lost
Speaker 2: two balls somehow too. She's like, oh, no, I mean,
Speaker 2: just to just to you know, highlight how often this happens.
Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, well, maybe they go into the
Speaker 2: the high weeds, sherry. Maybe you know, maybe the coyotes
Speaker 2: grab them and you know, I mean mob them around
Speaker 2: and put them together in one place. I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe homeless people that are coming into the
Speaker 2: woods now, you know, I mean more and more, maybe
Speaker 2: they're doing some I don't know, but I do know
Speaker 2: that that there was a message to me with that,
Speaker 2: with that elk, And there's been several messages to me.
Speaker 2: And the more the more experiences I have, it kind
Speaker 2: of turns different, it becomes it's become scarier because of
Speaker 2: those electronic sounds.
Speaker 3: M m.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And if I didn't have my dogs with me,
Speaker 2: I just don't think, you know, my cell phone and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. If I didn't have my dogs with me,
Speaker 2: I mean I wouldn't probably go where I'm going and stuff,
Speaker 2: but I just wouldn't feel as safe. And I also
Speaker 2: am kind of concerned about my dogs. I don't let
Speaker 2: them out of my sight and we stay in open areas.
Speaker 2: I don't let them go into the wood like I
Speaker 2: used to. We used to go into the brush and
Speaker 2: things and then you know, I was finding all those
Speaker 2: bones and stuff and then hearing those calls. It's it's
Speaker 2: just it's kind of creepy. It's kind of creepy anyways,
Speaker 2: Like because sometimes where we go, you know, you'll find
Speaker 2: cachets where mountainon have buried some bones and stuff too,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, So you can you kind
Speaker 2: of get a little bit of creepiness there, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So there's creepiness anyhow.
Speaker 1: But has has something called your dog's name multiple times?
Speaker 1: Or is it just the one time?
Speaker 2: Thank god, just that one time.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's still weird though, Yeah, isn't it. It's super weird.
Speaker 2: My dog perked up its ears and looked.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would go back to that place,
Speaker 1: to be honest, I mean, just talking personally like that
Speaker 1: would weird me out.
Speaker 2: I know, she almost she almost turned and went that direction,
Speaker 2: but she didn't because she was with me, Like there
Speaker 2: was a like, isn't that weird?
Speaker 1: It's it's super weird. Yeah, what's the what's the most
Speaker 1: recent time that you've had a dream that included something
Speaker 1: to do with Bigfoot?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean I've had some I guess. I had a
Speaker 2: bad dream a couple of months ago, and I woke
Speaker 2: up and said, oh my gosh. I remember waking up
Speaker 2: going what a horrible dream. But it was more about
Speaker 2: just being concerned about babies and stuff and little animal.
Speaker 2: Is that weird?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean it's very it's very out of
Speaker 1: the ordinary for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that maybe that's my I think
Speaker 2: that they observe obviously they're called watchers, right, and I
Speaker 2: think they can find your weakness and they pick up
Speaker 2: on it. I don't believe that they can read your mind.
Speaker 2: I think they're clever. I think they're they're claiboyant at
Speaker 2: reading your actions, and so it seems like there can
Speaker 2: read your mind. I believe that only God can read
Speaker 2: your mind. I think that they can put things into
Speaker 2: your mind, though, But I don't believe that they can
Speaker 2: read your mind. And that's just my belief. But I
Speaker 2: just think that they pick up on your weaknesses and
Speaker 2: the things that you you know, if you're going out
Speaker 2: there enough, and I mean it's like almost every day
Speaker 2: like I'm out there, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 2: there's been a lot of you know, reading of me.
Speaker 2: If that's what they're doing. I mean, I'm probably just
Speaker 2: even talking about it. I feel like we're it's like
Speaker 2: a sideline or or a sidebar conversation. It's like I
Speaker 2: don't know how much. I don't know how much I
Speaker 2: want to give to it, because I don't think they're
Speaker 2: worth any of it. I know that that they've existed
Speaker 2: for a long time. I know there's a ramp up
Speaker 2: in their importance. I think that they're dangerous. I think
Speaker 2: they're unclean. I noticed that people just an observation, people
Speaker 2: that get terrorized physically by them, like in person scared.
Speaker 2: I think they read that situation as well. I think
Speaker 2: they get entertained by other people and then mess with them,
Speaker 2: you know, like that whole having bad dreams and things
Speaker 2: like that. I know that in some of the accounts
Speaker 2: from one of the apostles for the the LDS Church,
Speaker 2: whatever it was that talked to him, the big hairy
Speaker 2: creature whatever it was, had said that he was there
Speaker 2: to do story human souls, that it was a miserable,
Speaker 2: that he was miserable and couldn't die, you know. And
Speaker 2: I mean, of course, you know there's folklore too, so
Speaker 2: I believe there were accounts, But I don't know how
Speaker 2: they change throughout time. I'm just you know, really open
Speaker 2: to know that the things change, and some of the
Speaker 2: older accounts don't sound like the more recent accounts. But
Speaker 2: I know that the Bigfoot sure hasn't evolved much. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, they're not they're not wearing sandals and they're
Speaker 2: not you know, I mean, they kind of don't evolve
Speaker 2: at all. They're timeless. They kind of stay where they're at.
Speaker 2: Whereas we we evolved, you know, we change and we progress,
Speaker 2: So there's something to that they are not equipped to evolve.
Speaker 2: They have what they have, and they come in and
Speaker 2: out of our realm, and you know, I mean, I
Speaker 2: guess if you don't go in the woods, you don't
Speaker 2: have to deal with them, but they're there.
Speaker 1: You know, makes you wonder where they're going back to
Speaker 1: after they come to our areas and then they go
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Where is it they're going back to? You know? Yeah?
Speaker 2: It does. And also when people say that they've killed them,
Speaker 2: it makes you wonder how much of that is true?
Speaker 2: And then what does that mean? Like if someone's killed one,
Speaker 2: what happens to their Do they have a soul? And
Speaker 2: if they have a soul, do they get reborn again?
Speaker 2: Because some people believe that they can't ever die. Like
Speaker 2: like what, who cares? Right? Like all these things are
Speaker 2: so mystifying and so curious that we could get stuck
Speaker 2: on them and not have our focus somewhere else. I
Speaker 2: just really believe that it's dangerous, at least for someone
Speaker 2: like me who's been so imprinted. And you know, here's
Speaker 2: the problem. Anywhere I go, I can go. I mean
Speaker 2: anywhere I go. I love the country anywhere I go.
Speaker 2: You know, I guess when I was in North Dakota,
Speaker 2: I didn't feel like there was any window but what
Speaker 2: went through there, And one of the tribal members had
Speaker 2: had a heart attack when they had the sighting it
Speaker 2: had gone on if you look up, I don't know
Speaker 2: someone and I don't know if it was the Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: What's the group called that does the investigations.
Speaker 1: For real beef.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they did investigation. But I had also
Speaker 2: because I lived there, my daughter works closely there. And
Speaker 2: one of the elders had had a heart attack when
Speaker 2: they saw it. But some of the ladies had seen
Speaker 2: it out on the ice on the Soca Quia like
Speaker 2: Soka Koua, and so I mean, I just you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, I hear about things, and you know, I
Speaker 2: liked it to get too. There was a time when
Speaker 2: I was trying to put it together. But since I've
Speaker 2: been here and had these things going on and I've
Speaker 2: kind of like put it together. I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 2: see what's going on. It's trying to get me. The
Speaker 2: more you look and the more you know you hear
Speaker 2: about people seeking them out, no one ever gets anywhere
Speaker 2: with it. It's like, you know, a treasure hunt kind of,
Speaker 2: it's fruitless.
Speaker 1: It's a treasure hunt that for most people goes on
Speaker 1: forever and hopefully it'll go somewhere in our lifetime. But
Speaker 1: for a lot of people it really doesn't. It it
Speaker 1: can become all consuming. There's a few people that have
Speaker 1: said that, has there been any reports in your area
Speaker 1: where they've been like particularly aggressive reports or just reports
Speaker 1: of more high strangeness.
Speaker 2: So my where I'm at, we don't really report things much.
Speaker 2: I mean obviously you know, because we thought like somebody
Speaker 2: did call when like I heard the neighbors and it's
Speaker 2: fireworks and you think, you know what I mean, there's
Speaker 2: just not a lot of we're just more to ourselves.
Speaker 2: I mean it's all over. I mean, if you go
Speaker 2: toward even more south and stuff, I mean, it's pretty
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, Okay, So for instance, even when
Speaker 2: I went to physical therapy, the gals like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I see and I can't see the town, but there's
Speaker 2: several towns around, you know what I mean. But it's anyways,
Speaker 2: she goes. When I came into town, I saw one
Speaker 2: walking and then we had the owner of the place
Speaker 2: was like yeah, you know, and blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And then I'm talking to another kid and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we just had had a deer hanging and they were
Speaker 2: out on one of the ravines. You know, I don't
Speaker 2: want to give away where I'm at, but I probably
Speaker 2: have already. But anyhow, and the the Bigfoot kept coming by, smacking,
Speaker 2: like I said, kept smacking their their house.
Speaker 1: Big for Society will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: And there are vehicles of stuff because it was mad
Speaker 2: because they had this thing hanging out there, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, what it had been hunting season. Like
Speaker 2: they don't like right, you know, for trophy. They don't
Speaker 2: like you to hang it. You're not hanging it to show,
Speaker 2: but to them that's what it is. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: almost like they put those bones out and line them
Speaker 2: up like they're the big like you know, trophy people.
Speaker 2: They're in control of the animal. No, you're not. And
Speaker 2: if you read the Bible, I mean obviously, right Genesis
Speaker 2: it taught about if you do tie it back to
Speaker 2: this mind. I'm not saying that they are Cain, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying there's a certain theme, common theme. There's
Speaker 2: like this, they're of the same vein. Something's there because Cain.
Speaker 2: The reason Cain killed Abel with a rock. You know
Speaker 2: how they like to throw their rocks, right, killed Able
Speaker 2: with a rock was he was jealous of him. The
Speaker 2: reason he was jealous of him. In the Bible, it
Speaker 2: says that Abel was a farmer. He was a shepherd type.
Speaker 2: He was a husbandry of animals. He was in charge
Speaker 2: of actual souls animals, and Cain was a dirt tiller.
Speaker 2: He was a farmer, but he was not in charge
Speaker 2: of animals. He could, he wasn't. That was not his
Speaker 2: degree of glory. So when it came time to give
Speaker 2: the offering, and it's in the Bible, these are just
Speaker 2: my words. In scripture, it says that the Lord was
Speaker 2: not happy with Cain's sacrifice. He was he was happy
Speaker 2: with Abels, and that's why Cain killed Abel. Abel was
Speaker 2: in charge of animals. Animals are of a higher spirit,
Speaker 2: you know, They're They're more sentient than plants, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, if you're going to give an offering, right, So,
Speaker 2: I just feel like it has to do with glory.
Speaker 2: I'm not I know that sounds really far out there,
Speaker 2: but it's just I'm not saying it's direct. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: going on that same theme, somehow it ties into their
Speaker 2: need to be in charge of animals. And it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, that is. I hear a lot of
Speaker 1: different theories on the on the show, and I would
Speaker 1: have to say that that is a very unique one.
Speaker 1: It's it's interesting to think about. Though. I've talked to
Speaker 1: another guy from this area, and Okay, there's some weird
Speaker 1: stuff that goes on in up where I think we
Speaker 1: might be talking. But and this has been a really
Speaker 1: interesting chat about. I mean, I feel things are going
Speaker 1: to continue to happen in your area.
Speaker 2: I know, and I do have to scale back, and
Speaker 2: I agree with you, just so you know, I know
Speaker 2: that they're going to increase, right, I know, I know
Speaker 2: that they will. I mean, even though I pray when
Speaker 2: I go out there and stuff, the fact that I
Speaker 2: go out there almost feels like I'm returning to the warrant,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like there's it's already been ruined.
Speaker 2: So I've got to find a new place to go.
Speaker 2: But I have to go out of where I'm at,
Speaker 2: out of the area, because it's all over. It's there's
Speaker 2: like you can go twenty miles and it's still there
Speaker 2: around I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just interactions with the creature all over
Speaker 1: the place. Up there, you're saying, there is.
Speaker 2: There is, Yeah, if you're out, if you're out and
Speaker 2: you're disturbing, if you're in the way. Just the common
Speaker 2: denominator is the elk, just so you know. So if
Speaker 2: you're not in where the deer are or the elk,
Speaker 2: you're probably better off. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Why do you think the common denominator is the elk?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, but it's definitely they
Speaker 2: definitely key in on them.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the other guy I was talking to you.
Speaker 1: There was elk involved, so oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah yeah, I mean not so much
Speaker 2: the moose, but they I think because the elk are
Speaker 2: like cows, like they migrat in herds, you can control
Speaker 2: them better, and like deer too.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I just think that they just they like get off
Speaker 2: on it. They think that. I know that sounds so busy.
Speaker 2: I mean I just I feel like it's crazy to
Speaker 2: even talk about it. But you got to understand. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've gone driving, I took a vacation. I went driving
Speaker 2: up the river and you know, close to where that guy,
Speaker 2: not on purpose because I live here, but close to
Speaker 2: where that guy had that bigfoot sighting, and out of
Speaker 2: the river bank come running two doughs and like rammed
Speaker 2: into my front quarter panel or front fender and this
Speaker 2: my side door. And it's like they were being chased.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, when that was chased, yeah, being k Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know whatever. But it's like I just feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, it just put me on such
Speaker 2: high alert. And I never hit you know, I didn't
Speaker 2: hit them. They ran and of course they could have
Speaker 2: been running up there, but I mean, they were in
Speaker 2: such a hurry to get out of that embankment, and
Speaker 2: it's like, I just feel like, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: feel like I get messed with you know what I
Speaker 2: mean a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean you've had you're dealing with it
Speaker 1: your whole life for sure. But I'm glad we talked tonight.
Speaker 1: And please keep me in the loop with if things
Speaker 1: conntinue to happen with you know, hearing weird sounds or
Speaker 1: just the ordinary things. Yeah, that'd be interested to know
Speaker 1: if it continues to happen.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I will let you know.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on tonight.
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