1 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season three, 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,399 episode six to seven of Clips in Dip. I am 3 00:00:16,519 --> 00:00:21,000 Chuck Mockler, joined by Adam Oslin and William Updyke. We 4 00:00:21,039 --> 00:00:23,839 are in the off season for the Clippers. We're coming 5 00:00:23,879 --> 00:00:26,000 at you once a week. Thank you for hanging out. 6 00:00:26,039 --> 00:00:27,960 If you ever like to watch us, especially now that 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,239 we have DIP reviews and DIP recipes on deck, you 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,799 can find us at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers Podcast. 9 00:00:36,359 --> 00:00:37,880 There's a lot of good stuff to talk about today. 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,200 We're gonna talk about some of the potential players the 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,159 Clippers could sign, some rumors that have been floating around 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,719 that I personally don't think make any damn sense. And then, 13 00:00:46,759 --> 00:00:49,359 of course, because it's his Clips and Dip, we have 14 00:00:49,439 --> 00:00:52,320 some DIP talk because it's the off season. Before we 15 00:00:52,359 --> 00:00:55,840 get into all of that, Adam Will hey fellas doing 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,920 no more Clippers basketball. We are fully in this offseason. 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,719 How's it going, Adam is good? Will. 18 00:01:02,719 --> 00:01:07,879 Speaker 2: We'll start with you, honestly, you know it feels good. 19 00:01:07,879 --> 00:01:10,400 It's bittersweet. We were talking before we got on here, though, 20 00:01:10,439 --> 00:01:12,560 I mean, with all these injuries in the playoffs, it's 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,040 it hasn't been a It hasn't really been a picnic 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,519 for anybody. So yeah, I don't know. Glad to be 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,959 back though, Glad to see y'all, Glad to talk clips, 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,719 glad to talk dips. It's a beautiful day. 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: All right, Adam, and you Yeah, Sadly, it's like the 26 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,719 basketball guys are like, well, we don't have the Clippers 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,560 to get injured anymore, so we got to take advantage 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,640 of all these other teams that are still it's awful. 29 00:01:34,799 --> 00:01:38,239 It's awful the Jason Tatum injury. Watching that live. He's 30 00:01:38,239 --> 00:01:40,280 one of my favorite players too, and he just turned 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:45,120 twenty seven. Like, it's unbelievable. I feel terrible for them. 32 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,680 We've been through so much of this with the Clippers. 33 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,799 It's just survival of the fittest once again this year 34 00:01:50,799 --> 00:01:51,480 in the playoffs. 35 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:55,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been such a well, like you were saying before, 36 00:01:55,359 --> 00:01:57,640 it's just like once a year, there's at least one 37 00:01:57,719 --> 00:02:02,640 a year now, which devastating injury to a star, which 38 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,519 is bad. And I'm sure the discourse this summer is 39 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,759 going to be around how can they reduce these injuries? 40 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: But it's very clear it's what are you talking about? 41 00:02:13,199 --> 00:02:17,159 It's very clear, it's very easy. It's so stupid. More games, 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,400 yeah yeah, yeah, like either less games or if you're 43 00:02:21,439 --> 00:02:23,960 not going to have less games, like you got to 44 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,680 elongate the season, like you know what in the summer, 45 00:02:28,719 --> 00:02:30,479 you just don't have that much stuff. I think the 46 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:32,520 we were talking about this, we were texting about this. 47 00:02:32,599 --> 00:02:36,479 I think the rest period's shrinking as the playoffs go 48 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:39,960 on is so stupid, Like there's no reason to truncate it, 49 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,439 Like there's just there's truly no point. Why can you 50 00:02:43,479 --> 00:02:45,719 not have two days in between, like have the playoffs 51 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,039 go later? How the playoffs go through July? Like who cares? 52 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,039 Speaker 3: I think it's they don't want to push back the draft, 53 00:02:56,719 --> 00:02:57,479 free agency. 54 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: I guess cares about the draft that's so studpid compared 55 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:01,560 to the playoffs. 56 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 3: Who cares compared to player safety, compare to the compared 57 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,000 to their health. I they've done it before due to COVID, 58 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,520 they figured things out before. I I know they're never 59 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,800 going to take away games because there's too much money 60 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,199 to be made, but just lengthen the season. Space the 61 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,199 games out. 62 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, space them out. And it's it's a tough balance 63 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,240 to you because players don't want to lose their offseason. 64 00:03:25,719 --> 00:03:28,120 So they're like, well, if the season's longer, you space 65 00:03:28,159 --> 00:03:28,439 it out. 66 00:03:28,479 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: We have less. 67 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a conundrum, but we hope it stops. 68 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,439 Will it probably not, but but we're along for the right. Hey, 69 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:42,319 at least for fans of a team that wins more 70 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,599 than they lose over the past ten years, that's cool. 71 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,759 See if you're not watching your Missing Adams incredibly enthusiastic 72 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:59,319 thumbs up. Okay, it's what's sincere, guys, it's sincere. So 73 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,639 there's been random rumors floating around about Giannis, about Austin Reeves. 74 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:08,719 There was Jonathan kuminga news today that he's gonna be 75 00:04:08,759 --> 00:04:10,479 They're going to try and find a sign in trade. 76 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,360 But for the people who don't fully maybe know the 77 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:21,040 cap situation the Clippers, they have thirteen guys signed. You 78 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,360 have James Harden with the player option, Nico with the 79 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,639 player option. Everything we've seen seems to say that Nico's 80 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,120 going to opt in, whereas Harden is probably going to 81 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,079 opt out. And we've we're all pretty comfortable with if 82 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,920 he opts out. Two years for like forty million a 83 00:04:37,959 --> 00:04:42,800 year for James Harden, Yeah, lines up with Kawhi not 84 00:04:42,959 --> 00:04:47,959 that crazy, but the Clippers are. And this is from 85 00:04:48,079 --> 00:04:52,639 Justin Rousseau, twenty one million dollars over the salary cap, 86 00:04:52,879 --> 00:04:57,279 but twelve million dollars under the luxury tax. Because of this, 87 00:04:57,399 --> 00:05:00,319 we have access to the fourteen million dollar non tax 88 00:05:00,319 --> 00:05:04,399 payer mid level exception, so that gives a mobile flexibility 89 00:05:04,439 --> 00:05:09,160 there like ten million away from the first apron. I 90 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,879 don't think they're gonna go over the first apron because 91 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,079 they've wanted this flexibility, right, Like, this isn't the summer to. 92 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:21,759 Speaker 3: Spend the Lawrence Frank at the exit interview presser said 93 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,519 we'll have the non tax payer mid level exception to use, 94 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:28,839 and then they asked him later about so, would you 95 00:05:28,879 --> 00:05:33,240 guys go over the cap and it's it sounded to 96 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,759 me like for the right situation, of course they would. 97 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,360 But the assumption is they're not that right situation or 98 00:05:39,399 --> 00:05:42,199 that perfect superstar that becomes available where you're like, yes, 99 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,319 we're definitely going over the cap for this guy is 100 00:05:44,399 --> 00:05:47,199 probably not going to happen. So therefore they already know 101 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:47,959 what they're working with. 102 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, there shouldn't be very many surprises this offseason. I 103 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:58,680 don't think do we want to start. So do you 104 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,720 want to start with Kaminga Giannis or Reeves. We're gonna 105 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,439 get into a realistic list of guys the Clippers could sign. 106 00:06:04,519 --> 00:06:08,720 But there's been some ideas floating around that I've seen 107 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,839 that I don't think make any sense. 108 00:06:13,199 --> 00:06:13,399 Speaker 3: Either. 109 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,519 Speaker 2: It's the photoshop. I've seen the mouse. 110 00:06:15,639 --> 00:06:23,439 Speaker 1: Theas photoshop is crazy. Why why won't this happen? Adam? 111 00:06:23,439 --> 00:06:27,319 Why do you like it's impossible? 112 00:06:27,399 --> 00:06:33,519 Speaker 3: Christ can't have nice things? No, it's judging, especially after 113 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,600 what we saw Monday night, was that when the draft 114 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,360 lottery took place, I believe so. Yes, yes, after seeing 115 00:06:41,399 --> 00:06:44,439 the Dallas Mavericks and the San Antonio Spurs get top 116 00:06:44,519 --> 00:06:46,839 two picks, Well, I don't think Dallas is going to 117 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,839 trade because they're gonna end up with Cooper Flag and 118 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:54,079 have a nice long window timeline to work with and 119 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,319 sell the fans on. And yes, they got bailed out 120 00:06:57,319 --> 00:06:59,680 and Nico Harrison completely got bailed out. 121 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,519 Speaker 1: They could still not take Cooper Flag, which would be 122 00:07:02,519 --> 00:07:04,879 the funniest result of all that. 123 00:07:05,879 --> 00:07:09,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, but San Antonio, if they want to, if they 124 00:07:09,439 --> 00:07:12,839 want you honest, they get you honest. If Okase wants 125 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,079 you honest, they get y honest. Uh, If Houston wants 126 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,519 you honest, they get you honest. And why would all 127 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,480 these teams not want honest that can get you honest? 128 00:07:23,639 --> 00:07:26,720 Is the question. Before the Clippers would have any chance 129 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,959 of putting together a deal with one first round pick 130 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,040 and who they're gonna have to give up a Viza 131 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,279 Zoo boss most likely in a trade like that. If 132 00:07:35,319 --> 00:07:38,879 you're talking about dealing for Giannis, they're gonna lose Zoo like. 133 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:42,519 That's that's the piece that Milwaukee would want most. So 134 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,160 it's it's nonsensical. It's not going to happen. The only 135 00:07:48,279 --> 00:07:51,040 way that they would even have a chance, and I 136 00:07:51,079 --> 00:07:54,399 would say it's still slight to less than one percent, 137 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,560 is if Yannis said I only want to go to 138 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,800 the Clippers now. For that to happen would be unlikely. 139 00:08:00,279 --> 00:08:03,000 But even if he said that he's under contract for 140 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,279 two more years, a team could go, cool, we're calling 141 00:08:06,279 --> 00:08:08,959 your bluff. Will still give up assets for you because 142 00:08:08,959 --> 00:08:11,079 we know you're under contract for two more years. There's 143 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,480 nothing you can do about it. So it's not a 144 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:16,279 rental or a one year thing where he has that 145 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:17,519 much control over it. 146 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just not will are you more impressed with 147 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:27,800 the photoshop quality or the possibilities of people's minds to 148 00:08:27,839 --> 00:08:28,959 think that this is possible. 149 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,399 Speaker 2: I mean, it's both a little delusional but a huge 150 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:36,440 shout out to the people, you know, taking the time 151 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:40,399 to do the jersey swaps. The jersey the jersey photoshoppers 152 00:08:40,759 --> 00:08:43,200 don't use AI. I've been seeing some basketball I ass 153 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,360 stuff on the timeline. You're you're a loser if you're 154 00:08:45,399 --> 00:08:49,279 doing that. But the people, the people, the people taking 155 00:08:49,279 --> 00:08:52,039 the time to photoshop jerseys, real ones, you know, regardless 156 00:08:52,039 --> 00:08:53,480 of how stupid the idea is. 157 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: And there's no assets, right if you go to a 158 00:08:57,519 --> 00:09:01,559 trade machine or whatever, which people do. I can't remember 159 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,519 what the classic line. There was some Twitter user who 160 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,879 would send trades and they would say, per the rules, 161 00:09:07,799 --> 00:09:11,840 this works, Yeah, as if that is what that is, 162 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:13,879 the only thing you have to work in is does 163 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:14,720 the trade work? 164 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,519 Speaker 2: Yeah? I love like people who would just yeah. I like, 165 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:22,399 I have more respect for the jersey photoshoppers than the 166 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,960 trade machine screenshotters though, like a lot more so. 167 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 3: Why use yourself up to be disappointed with this, Like, 168 00:09:29,639 --> 00:09:32,480 let's just let's just end it right now, it's over. 169 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:33,600 They're not getting honest. 170 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, Zoo, Norman Derek Jones, Junior works who says no, right, 171 00:09:38,399 --> 00:09:43,639 and one pick who says no, no, it would be 172 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:48,559 a nightmare. It's not gonna happen, photoshop something else. It 173 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,679 just what happened. Austin Reeves is another one that has 174 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,600 no shot of happening. I do not think the issue. 175 00:09:58,039 --> 00:10:00,360 I also want to say there's a new thing now 176 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,519 because betting is so popular that they'll be like, oh, 177 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,759 the Clippers are a favorite to land Austin Reeves. That's 178 00:10:06,799 --> 00:10:10,840 only because people have decided to bet on the Clippers 179 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,039 to land Austin Reeves. It's not an actual sort. It's 180 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,639 just like people are betting it, which does. 181 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: Not people know. 182 00:10:18,279 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, which doesn't really mean anything. What would the Clippers 183 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,919 give up for Austin Reeves that would be good for it? 184 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: Like? 185 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,039 Speaker 2: What else? Like? What the fuck are we talking about here? 186 00:10:29,399 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: He makes thirteen million a year, which is not a lot. 187 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,360 He's locked up for twenty five twenty six, and then 188 00:10:34,399 --> 00:10:37,639 has a player option for twenty six twenty seven. I 189 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,919 cannot see the Lakers. Wasn't their last trade with US 190 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,000 the Zoo trade? Yeah, I don't think they're coming back 191 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,919 to that well to get Zoo. Bet like that is 192 00:10:47,919 --> 00:10:49,919 a good call. Well, they would probably want Zoo because 193 00:10:49,919 --> 00:10:50,320 who else? 194 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: What else do we have to offer them? 195 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? 196 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if they're like, Okay, we want 197 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:02,919 norm and why would you want normal? Second, because they 198 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,840 don't make more He makes more money. 199 00:11:04,879 --> 00:11:07,799 Speaker 2: He's older, Like, I don't, I don't see it. He's 200 00:11:07,879 --> 00:11:09,000 way worse defensively. 201 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,519 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, the thing is like, what's the upgrade? 202 00:11:14,519 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 2: What's the point? 203 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: I think there's a deal out there for Austin Reeves. 204 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:22,879 I just don't know if the Clippers are the team 205 00:11:22,919 --> 00:11:25,039 that has what the Lakers want. If they had a 206 00:11:25,039 --> 00:11:28,279 big man that was negotiable, that's not a beat of Zubos, 207 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,440 then yes they'd be they'd be a suitor. So it's 208 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,639 unlikely in that respect, just because they don't have the 209 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,480 right parts that the Lakers looking for. 210 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, there there is a trade out there for them, 211 00:11:41,399 --> 00:11:43,000 I'm pretty sure, But I don't think it's. 212 00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:45,879 Speaker 2: Oh, there's a market. There's a market for Austin Reeves. 213 00:11:45,919 --> 00:11:48,600 Of course. Yeah, that's not what I'm saying at all. 214 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,000 It's just I don't I don't see the move for 215 00:11:52,039 --> 00:11:52,720 the Clippers. 216 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,159 Speaker 1: They also seem to want you know, they got to 217 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:01,759 prioritize like size and kind of athleticism. Clippers don't have 218 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,120 that for this trade. That's what kind of did us 219 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,960 in during the playoffs? 220 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: DJ for Reeves straight up? 221 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: Sure, I would day. 222 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,799 Speaker 3: I mean, okay, why not? DJ is the type of 223 00:12:14,799 --> 00:12:17,440 guy that they would like. But how do you build 224 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,799 around that with enough? That's not crazy? Because DJ is 225 00:12:21,879 --> 00:12:26,200 on a team friendly contract, and if the deal is 226 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,919 they don't want to pay Austin Reeves because he's going 227 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,000 to opt out and be a free agent after this year. 228 00:12:32,639 --> 00:12:35,519 Maybe there's something to work with there, but it still 229 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:36,399 seems unlikely. 230 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: What do we what's his contract? What's his next contract 231 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:41,919 projected at? 232 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: What do we do we have over one hundred million? 233 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,240 Probably probably, I. 234 00:12:48,159 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: Mean it'll be it'll be tougher because of you know, 235 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,279 having both Lebron and Luke on the team, but like 236 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,799 he's gonna make an All Star team. 237 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: He could in the right situation. This for sure he 238 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,080 could make one hundred and fifty million the next deal. Yeah, 239 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,759 he took less the first deal, So I don't know. 240 00:13:11,879 --> 00:13:15,799 I'm a big fan of Austin and Reeves as a player. Uh, 241 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,480 I know, Laker Clippers fans won't like hearing praise for Lakers. 242 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,159 Speaker 1: But he's so he's very good. 243 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 3: I mean he's yeah, he's theerious who cares. 244 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: He's way better than I anticipated in. 245 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: But Derek Jones Junior. I also, the Clippers aren't trading 246 00:13:34,279 --> 00:13:37,120 a first round pick for anybody. I think we've gone 247 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:43,120 through this long enough where they want everyone keeps clamoring 248 00:13:43,159 --> 00:13:46,399 for youth and all that. It's really hard to do 249 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,679 that when you don't have first round picks is one 250 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,519 of the issues. So it's like, I don't think the 251 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,320 front office is eager to deal any of those as 252 00:13:54,519 --> 00:13:58,720 for anybody this summer, like for who's available. 253 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: Definitely not to the Lakers. I think the only way 254 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,679 deals happened with a rifle like that is if somebody 255 00:14:08,039 --> 00:14:10,480 is getting swindled, which is what happened with they beat 256 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,759 to Supots. That was an absolute fleeceh job where Lawrence 257 00:14:14,799 --> 00:14:18,840 Frank was like, okay, thanks Magic, I did not expect 258 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,399 this phone call right before the deadline. 259 00:14:21,759 --> 00:14:23,799 Speaker 1: They were at dinner. Isn't the story that they were 260 00:14:23,799 --> 00:14:27,480 all at dinner and they did didn't they laugh? Yeah? 261 00:14:27,559 --> 00:14:29,279 I think Jerry West said they were all at dinner 262 00:14:29,279 --> 00:14:30,600 and they're like, Okay. 263 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: I remember when the kyon came up on the screen. 264 00:14:34,279 --> 00:14:36,240 I was like, what, No, that didn't happen. 265 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: It made no sense. 266 00:14:38,519 --> 00:14:39,679 Speaker 3: It came in really late. 267 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: Shout out to the Lakers for that. But yeah, and 268 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,879 seeing the reaction of giving the Lakers a first round 269 00:14:46,919 --> 00:14:51,240 pick would be I mean, I would be sharing in 270 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,399 the rage or whatever the feelings would be. It would 271 00:14:53,399 --> 00:14:56,759 be Clevers fans would implode, rightfully, So I think. 272 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:03,519 Speaker 3: I like Austin a lot. But yeah, unless you're dealing 273 00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:06,080 the first with DJ and something, I don't think it's happening. 274 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,639 Speaker 1: And it's not lining up with the Clippers playing right, 275 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:14,039 it's all. It's all after next season the most. I 276 00:15:14,039 --> 00:15:15,639 don't know if interesting is the right word. 277 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: Uh. 278 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: Jonathan Kaminga reportedly the Warriors are looking at sign and 279 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:26,759 trade situations for him. I would say I am incredibly 280 00:15:27,519 --> 00:15:32,279 confused at what Kaminga's value is. Seems Warriors fans. 281 00:15:31,919 --> 00:15:33,799 Speaker 2: It's got I mean, they gotta be selling low on him. 282 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,480 He's not even like he's barely in the playoffertation right. 283 00:15:37,559 --> 00:15:41,639 Speaker 1: I saw some Warriors fans describe him as a guy 284 00:15:41,799 --> 00:15:44,519 who can be great when your star is out, Like 285 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,320 you know, like basically like for a bad team, like 286 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,639 if he was on like the Hornets and LaMelo was out, 287 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,559 Kaminga would be a good guy, you know what I mean? 288 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:58,000 Like so not like a very good winning NBA basketball player, right, 289 00:15:58,159 --> 00:16:01,480 Like his tenure and the Warriors been super weird. He 290 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:06,000 doesn't seem very good. I don't think he has athleticism. 291 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: But I'm a fan. I don't think it's hard to 292 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,519 give an appraisal on him because of his Warriors tenure. 293 00:16:13,799 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: Totally. 294 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: I do think. I have a tweet out there from 295 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,320 a couple of years ago saying he's gonna end up 296 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,679 being a star. I think he has. Yeah, somebody could 297 00:16:23,679 --> 00:16:27,440 pull the receipt on that. He's still twenty three, I think. 298 00:16:28,399 --> 00:16:31,879 I think. I think the reason he hasn't gotten much 299 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,720 time is because style of play and lack of motor. 300 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,759 Speaker 1: He's twenty two. Damn sorry, I just checked that out. 301 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, for the right price, I would do it. Honestly. 302 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,679 This is the guy that they held out giving up 303 00:16:48,279 --> 00:16:52,919 for Paul George trade last summer. They wouldn't entertain that 304 00:16:53,639 --> 00:16:57,000 and they didn't give him the extension then for two 305 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,679 hundred million or whatever it is, that's that's the problem, 306 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,559 Like how much is the science trade. I guess I 307 00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:07,599 should wait to say I would do it because I 308 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,279 need to know what the number is. But I'm interested 309 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:15,160 in Jonathan Kaminga, even with his up and down kind 310 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,240 of who is he as a player type play? 311 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, not adding him in that in the Paul George 312 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:28,039 that was such a weird saga. I don't think we 313 00:17:28,039 --> 00:17:32,119 were ever training Paul George the Warriors, But yeah, I 314 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,359 guess that's because what is he? 315 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 3: I think they would have for Kaminga honestly, well. 316 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: Because he's young. He brings what the Clippers need, which 317 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,759 is that youth and athleticism. Maybe I'm turning on this idea, 318 00:17:43,839 --> 00:17:46,880 maybe I'm flip flopping, but you think he could be 319 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,000 at like forty a year. 320 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 3: I don't know what the max is for him, and 321 00:17:55,279 --> 00:17:56,759 as a researcher free agent. 322 00:17:56,839 --> 00:18:01,599 Speaker 2: I don't love that he's super on board, but I 323 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:02,279 don't love. 324 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:08,599 Speaker 3: That it's definitely a risk. The thing is they're likely 325 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,759 going to have to take on at some point, I think, 326 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,799 because it's very rare that good players like Luka Donci 327 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,960 just get moved. They are young and having all that 328 00:18:20,039 --> 00:18:22,599 cap space in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven 329 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,119 is great. The problem is the best players or the 330 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,680 most talented players aren't going to be available that way. 331 00:18:28,759 --> 00:18:30,039 You're going to have to trade for them. 332 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:31,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point. 333 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: Is he that guy? I don't know. We just have 334 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,480 not seen enough Steve Kerr refused to play him. The 335 00:18:38,519 --> 00:18:42,640 opinions are all over the place. But the potential is the. 336 00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: Last minutes per game that he did in their title 337 00:18:44,759 --> 00:18:48,000 run like that, I mean, oh yeah, Like I just 338 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,480 feel like that speaks to like where he is in 339 00:18:49,519 --> 00:18:51,640 the rotation and how they feel about his development. 340 00:18:52,519 --> 00:18:57,319 Speaker 3: I just don't know. Warriors fans have gone after Kerr 341 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,279 a lot for this. He doesn't play the first round 342 00:19:00,599 --> 00:19:03,759 at all against Houston or not till the very end, 343 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,799 and then he starts playing a bunch and it wasn't 344 00:19:06,839 --> 00:19:10,559 just because Steph Curry was out against Minnesota and a 345 00:19:10,559 --> 00:19:12,839 lot of people are going, why wasn't he playing before? 346 00:19:13,039 --> 00:19:16,359 What is the problem here? Like does he have real 347 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,240 attitude issues and refuses to buy into the system and 348 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,119 just isn't a Kurr guy. I don't know. 349 00:19:23,039 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: I think it might be the not aker guy thing. 350 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,519 That's a lot of what I've just passively. 351 00:19:30,079 --> 00:19:32,599 Speaker 2: Have take he reminds him too much of Michael Jordan. 352 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: That god damn it, he's too great. Yeah, he's like, 353 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:44,000 I'm just worried man. Yeah, it's just weird. Weird is 354 00:19:44,039 --> 00:19:46,119 the perfect way to talk about his tenure as a warrior, 355 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,440 because it's also what does it look like next year? 356 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:54,799 Because this is the last ride for this for Steph, 357 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,759 you know what I mean, Like for Steph Draymond. Maybe 358 00:19:56,759 --> 00:20:00,200 I'll eat my words, but it doesn't feel like the 359 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,759 next year they're going to come back and try and 360 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:04,440 necessarily run back the exact same thing. So maybe next year, 361 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,119 if he stays with the Wearers, he looks a little 362 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,240 better or something like that. But it's odd. The contract 363 00:20:11,279 --> 00:20:15,079 offer is going to be really interesting from both like 364 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,359 just where both sides are at. 365 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you offer like a low ball offer of 366 00:20:21,799 --> 00:20:26,519 one hundred million and see if they'll do that and 367 00:20:26,519 --> 00:20:29,599 a sign and trade and then what would you give 368 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,480 up for him? I guess from the Clippers, what would 369 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,440 they be after? What would they be looking for? Norman Powell? 370 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,559 They need shooting, they could use somebody like that? 371 00:20:40,319 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: Could they use that? I mean, not to repeat what 372 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,319 Will said, could they use Derek Jones Jr. 373 00:20:46,839 --> 00:20:53,279 Speaker 3: Anybody, I mean, young athleticism nobody wants so, yeah, that's 374 00:20:53,319 --> 00:20:57,599 probably somebody they would inquire about. Maybe they'd ask about Don. 375 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:06,279 Speaker 1: The real untouchables I think on the Clippers are Kawhi, Harden, Zoo. 376 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,799 Speaker 3: That's about it, because teams won't trade for some of 377 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:13,599 those guys as untouchables. 378 00:21:13,759 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, partially, yes, and Zoo's not going anywhere if they 379 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,960 traded Zoo, I personally would riot. 380 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,759 Speaker 3: I would imagine they'd be getting quite a hole if 381 00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:27,440 they gave into trading Zoo. 382 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again how much does it That's the fact 383 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,640 that it's the Warriors that you're trading with factor into 384 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,000 some of this. 385 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, uh, I mean they have Jimmy Butler 386 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,480 signed the next two years for like sixty dollars a year. 387 00:21:47,759 --> 00:21:49,920 They're gonna have to do the same thing with their 388 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,000 big three. It's gonna be Draymond, Jimmy and Steph and 389 00:21:53,079 --> 00:21:55,519 just how do you get better around those guys. It's 390 00:21:55,559 --> 00:21:59,359 not that dissimilar to what the Clippers are dealing with 391 00:21:59,440 --> 00:21:59,960 in some ways. 392 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,319 Speaker 1: It's a good call like that, aging top end stars 393 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,519 will who would you who would you give up for? Commina. 394 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:15,759 Is anyone on the table other than those three guys, now, 395 00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:18,440 I think they gotta sell high on Norm if the 396 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,920 if the right offers out there, if Norm was involved 397 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:26,039 in kaminga trade, I would, I think, be pretty okay 398 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:29,720 with it. Toody two is crazy. I don't know if 399 00:22:29,759 --> 00:22:30,400 she was that young. 400 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:35,039 Speaker 2: Also, Yeah, I like I think fit wise. I think 401 00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:36,960 I think fit wise. It just makes a lot of sense. 402 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,920 I think, Yeah, outside of the the three, I would 403 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:42,119 put anybody on the table. 404 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 3: So the max he could get is fine either. Yeah, 405 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,359 the max he can get is five years to twenty four. 406 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:54,400 I can't see happening at this point. 407 00:22:54,759 --> 00:22:57,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for him, that would be pretty funny. 408 00:22:57,799 --> 00:23:00,160 If he was that would be so confusing. If you 409 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:05,680 were Jonathan Kaminga and you got the fire them, You're like, what, okay, 410 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,279 forty five a year is insane. Like, you guys don't 411 00:23:09,279 --> 00:23:11,319 seem to like me very much, but you're gonna pay 412 00:23:11,319 --> 00:23:13,480 me all this money. That's fine. We've all been in 413 00:23:13,519 --> 00:23:14,640 those situations before. 414 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 3: I wonder if they've held him back at all so 415 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,599 they can try to bring him back on a lower deal. 416 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,880 I'm sure him and his agent has felt like that. 417 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,599 At times teams do it. 418 00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: Right, like, it wouldn't be crazy. 419 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: Although if he is like a dissenter, I don't know 420 00:23:30,759 --> 00:23:34,759 how much he'll love being on the Clippers center. Although 421 00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:36,880 if he likes shining when stars are out, he will 422 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,400 have a lot of. 423 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: Opportunities, right, it'll be interesting. Let us know at Clippers 424 00:23:46,519 --> 00:23:49,839 pot on Twitter or at Clippers podcast on YouTube, which 425 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,680 of these options? How do you feel about any of them? 426 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,079 The honest thing's not happening coaminga baby. I might be 427 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,039 sold on cominga now for the right price. 428 00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 3: You think he's he wruk me down for the right price. 429 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: He's one hundred million dollar contract guy, though. 430 00:24:06,079 --> 00:24:08,079 Speaker 3: He is going to get at least one hundred I 431 00:24:08,519 --> 00:24:13,920 would suspect, And ye, that's fine. He took less even 432 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,079 that would be less than the two twenty four, But 433 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,720 he takes less on like a two year, three year deal. 434 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,640 So then he's a free agent again at twenty five 435 00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:23,240 and can get a bigger deal. 436 00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:25,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, two more deals after that tooth theory, right, like 437 00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:28,960 at least two more bigs? Yeah huh. 438 00:24:30,039 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 3: That sign me up for three year extension with him, 439 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,839 even if the years are high, even if it's like 440 00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:40,359 thirty five million, but it's only three years and it's 441 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,640 still kind of a type of prove it contract. I'm 442 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,480 interested in that. 443 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: I could see the prove it contract being given he 444 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,240 hasn't proven, Like, no disrespect him, what has he. 445 00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:55,319 Speaker 4: Wait, what do you think the proven contract would look like? 446 00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 3: Like three years, one ten or something maybe. 447 00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: Whatever, Like if that's it and he wants to come 448 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,160 to the Clippers, I would be like, sure. 449 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 3: What I mean, here's a player option. Therefore he's still 450 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,200 lining up with the two years with Kawhi and James. 451 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,799 Speaker 2: Feel like that's actually like really reasonable for like what 452 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,920 you know, I think that should be closer to when 453 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,160 his expectations are than forty five. 454 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: And if he was, if he was locked up for 455 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,720 a three year deal, he would still be under contract 456 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,359 when our books open up, because he'd be locked in 457 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,839 after twenty six, twenty seven or twenty six, which is 458 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,440 when they open up. So like that would be I'm 459 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,519 not mad at that. For the rules all of this works. 460 00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:43,319 They should do it exactly how we've described it. I 461 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,680 wonder if he has preferred destinations what I think. 462 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 2: But again, if you're the Warriors, like who cares are 463 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,160 you doing business with the Clippers. 464 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 3: They would for Paul George apparently. I don't know why 465 00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:01,640 get the best deal I. 466 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,599 Speaker 2: Know, but like it sounds like the Paul George deal 467 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,279 was for Slot Well, like that's I don't remember the 468 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:09,720 exact trade, but I remember it. It was like basically, 469 00:26:09,759 --> 00:26:12,559 we're getting salary match in like a pick, like. 470 00:26:13,079 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: Come on, yeah, they were trying to dump Wiggans his contract. 471 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:23,400 They've actually get anyways Moody. Uh maybe Gary Payton the second, 472 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,279 maybe get Gary Payton's but he did me. 473 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't need any more of those. 474 00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm interested in Kamenka. It is one of 475 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,799 the biggest unknowns in the NBA. I just am of 476 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,599 the belief that the Clippers are going to have to 477 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,279 strike gold on somebody like this in a trade at 478 00:26:46,279 --> 00:26:49,920 some point during this rebuild, this next era process. 479 00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:53,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had done it before. 480 00:26:54,200 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: He brings everything the Clippers need again basketball a fit wise. 481 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,799 I just say, we know for sure he brings what 482 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,319 the Clippers and need maybe except for basketball fit wise, 483 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,359 because we don't have a bunch of you know, and 484 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,000 it's like you watch it like he would thrive in 485 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,599 Tyler's system or something like that, because it's just been 486 00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:15,200 so spotty. 487 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 3: The thing is, the Warriors the fit for him might 488 00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:22,279 be bad because he is more of an ISO player 489 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,880 and that's how he projects out to be. And they 490 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,400 do a lot of you know, cutting off curls, and 491 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,759 that's not the Clippers. They don't make as many passes 492 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:34,720 as the Cold State Warriors do. 493 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: Hmmm, all right, well, I've completely flip flopped since we 494 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:45,200 started this conversation. It's the beauty of the pod. 495 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 3: We worked our way through it. 496 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,279 Speaker 1: We worked our way through it. 497 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 3: Guys, I'm back in on the honest. I would like 498 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,079 the honest. Actually, when do they. 499 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: Have to sign kaminga by like? 500 00:27:58,079 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 3: Uh? 501 00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: Trade? 502 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,839 Speaker 3: So? I think I think for Harden's opt in or 503 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,920 opt out is it's June twenty ninth. I think. I 504 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,640 don't know if that lines up with some of the 505 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,160 other decisions that have to be made. 506 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: But it's around, it's around there. It's it's usually, isn't 507 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:19,119 it by like the first week of July? Something like 508 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,240 that sounds right, Well. 509 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: We'll be at a fourth We'll be at the fourth 510 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,480 of July, clips in at barbecue, and we'll get the 511 00:28:24,519 --> 00:28:29,119 alert that we've traded for Jonathan. We've prophesized that we've 512 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,799 traded for Jonathan. We've traded Norm and Derek Jones Junior 513 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:39,319 for Tom Jonathan Kamina. Then we go live from the 514 00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:44,079 Grill and then sand Bringer Davy, all right, let us 515 00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:46,440 know what you give up for Jonathan Kaminga and nobody 516 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,119 else that we've talked about because it's impossible over at 517 00:28:49,119 --> 00:28:52,559 Clippers pod or at Clippers podcast on YouTube. Coming up, 518 00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:56,400 we're gonna look at some realistic free agent targets for 519 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,559 the Clippers. And let me tell you what. It is. 520 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,000 Not a sexy list we just did this. No, these 521 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,440 are real ones. These are these are ones that we 522 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,920 can just sign. These are the signables if you are 523 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,400 into that kind of thing. And then we're talking dips 524 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,880 because in the off season we got so many letters 525 00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:18,240 that we needed to uh talk about dips. So I'm 526 00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:20,039 excited to get into that. We have I have no 527 00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:22,920 idea what y'all brought, so it should be a good time. 528 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,920 Uh audio listens is gonna be a quick ad break, 529 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,880 and then we are talking the signables coming up in 530 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,039 three two one. 531 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,319 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into clips, and we talked about 532 00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:35,279 some big swings. You know, this is this is the 533 00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:37,480 off season. This is what everybody wants to talk about. 534 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:39,799 So I'm sure we'll have more of this content for you. 535 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,640 We might, we might do some deep dives on some 536 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,440 other potential trades. But let's look at the free agent list. 537 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,039 These are guys that we could just outright sign. Not 538 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,920 gonna be I'm gonna tell you right now, there's not 539 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,160 gonna be a lot of showstoppers on this list. But Charles, 540 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,839 why don't you run us down? What? Why don't you 541 00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:59,880 start with the best possible signing. Let's go, let's go 542 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,559 from there, and then let's get our expectations high. Let's 543 00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:04,759 go ahead and ride on down. 544 00:30:05,119 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if high expectations a great expectation our 545 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,799 two words should be used with this free agent list. 546 00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:13,559 I put it in the rundown of what do you got? 547 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,759 So we also the Clippers want what right like and 548 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:21,519 like a four, an Aaron Gordon type four who's big 549 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,319 or something doesn't have to be done? Boom, second option 550 00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:30,799 back up five? Like, no, that's do we all agree that? 551 00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:33,480 Maybe that's the consensus the Foh maybe. 552 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 3: Malcolm Brogden, Yeah, happening. 553 00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: Prorogen's probably happening. They already did it once, it can 554 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,119 do it again? Do we want? 555 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:49,319 Speaker 3: Like? 556 00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:54,599 Speaker 1: Is Gershan Yabuseli the best option of this list of guys. 557 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,519 I encourage you listening if you haven't looked at the 558 00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:01,000 list of free agents, to go look at it because 559 00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:04,079 it is not I don't mean to disrespect any of 560 00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:07,400 these incredible players who play in the NBA. It's not 561 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:11,480 the coolest looking list for a team that wants to 562 00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:12,640 stay under the apron. 563 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 3: I'm a fan of Abucelli. He's also not as young 564 00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:22,000 as you might think. He's about to turn thirty. I think, yeah, 565 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,680 he had a really good year in his second stint 566 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:29,039 in the NBA, but he was there before, drafted by 567 00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:31,680 Boston and then was out for a few years. Came 568 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,079 back last year was with Philly. Shot thirty eight percent 569 00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:40,119 from the outside, you know, dunked on Lebron, big, strong 570 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,559 and can shoot that. He is the prototype. He was 571 00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:46,400 on a minimum though he was a proven deal for 572 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,440 him this last year he could just stay in the NBA. 573 00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:51,960 This time he had the right opportunity and made the 574 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,880 most of it. How much is he going to ask 575 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,319 for a hundred million? 576 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,799 Speaker 2: One hundred million? 577 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,559 Speaker 1: I mean he might ask for it. 578 00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:02,119 Speaker 3: Eighty. 579 00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:06,319 Speaker 1: Oh man, that would be I would feel terrible about that. 580 00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:10,519 I like jamas Elli, but I don't know if I 581 00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:11,319 like him that much. 582 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: Is he a starr in caliber? Four? 583 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: Well? Three years? Sixty five? Okay, we love sixty five? 584 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: Here, favorite film, favorite contract deal for the rail clips 585 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:26,160 and dip heads. 586 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:32,559 Speaker 1: If you remember that one, let us know. Yeah, Yamacelli's 587 00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:41,359 on there. Thomas Bryant bad Sure, these are the guys. 588 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:46,880 This is who Larry Nance juniors. 589 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,079 Speaker 3: As you recover from the hand injury, you have a 590 00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:55,960 broken hand like all of last year. I like Claroness 591 00:32:58,359 --> 00:32:59,920 he is. He's getting up there. 592 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: He's absolutely getting up there. Great locker room guy. It 593 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,559 seems like, yeah, he broke his hand in uh December 594 00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:07,799 twenty four. 595 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: Teammates. Teammates do seem to live in. 596 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 3: He's not a starting caliber power forward though. To me, no, 597 00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:20,519 you have to be able to shoot from three if 598 00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:23,480 you're going to start next to VI's Zubas. He's not 599 00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:24,000 that guy. 600 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 2: He's not that guy. 601 00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: Anybody anybody else on this list that you guys can see. 602 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,079 Speaker 3: Alex Lenn's on this list. 603 00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: Oh buddy for backup five? Got the lenhead? Count me 604 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,680 in have him compete with whatever rookie giant guy we 605 00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:42,279 bring in. 606 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, you know what, just a gaze. 607 00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:50,160 I hope we get him. Never mind, I'm not gonna 608 00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:52,400 he's a star. He's a stud. 609 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,039 Speaker 1: He's a star. Steven Adams. 610 00:33:56,759 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 3: I love the hell Adams all day. 611 00:33:59,039 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, good love. 612 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: Looked like he made twelve and a half. He's unrestricted. 613 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,559 Like the Clippers aren't going to give him the full 614 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,719 because they have fours at fourteen with the the incredibly 615 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:17,159 long titled exception. They have the non taxpayer mid level exception. 616 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:19,199 I don't think you give them. You don't give him 617 00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,079 all fourteen. I don't think, because again he's a year older. 618 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 3: But maybe they have to though, I mean, how. 619 00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:29,559 Speaker 1: Would you be mad at fourteen for Steven Adams. 620 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:35,119 Speaker 3: Here's he's limited. People got realized he had major injury issues. 621 00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,679 I think this is somebody that got the you know, 622 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,960 cadaver body part. It's you know, kind of a un 623 00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:45,400 orthodox surgery. 624 00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:46,639 Speaker 2: H what he. 625 00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 3: Missed all of last year, It's kind of like that 626 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,800 he missed half the year before that. There are real 627 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,599 injury concerns. I don't think he can play heavy minutes 628 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,920 ever again. Can he you play fifteen to twenty at night. 629 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,800 It didn't last year, just to point that out. If 630 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,519 he can't even be that, I though, yeah, not if 631 00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:19,119 it beats zoo boxes there and healthy? Are you paying 632 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,360 fourteen a year? 633 00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 1: That's the that. 634 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:23,599 Speaker 3: Yeah? 635 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 2: I mean so I could get the jersey. 636 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:31,559 Speaker 3: Sure, if he's healthy, it's perfect for what you need. 637 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,400 And finally they have their backup big that's reliable. 638 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: Good locker room guy too. 639 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,599 Speaker 3: Again yeah, some badass, just awesome guy. 640 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: The health thing is the well, because that's that's the 641 00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:47,679 other thing is like backup center is such a weird 642 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,280 thing in the current and bea land well. 643 00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 2: We were talking about this and like who's is really good? 644 00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:53,559 Speaker 3: Yeah? 645 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:53,599 Speaker 1: Who? 646 00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 2: Like what backup center really blows you away right now? 647 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,920 Where you're like that that would be a like that 648 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,039 would be the difference make for the Clippers. 649 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,079 Speaker 1: That's a great core of centers they have there. Like 650 00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:07,119 it's not really a thing. 651 00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 3: It's not a thing. It's not as valued of a 652 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:17,719 position anymore. Uh. That That's been my argument, Like Clippers fans, 653 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,880 you keep talking about having a bad backup center. Who 654 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,079 are all these teams with these stud backup centers? Is 655 00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:25,800 Denver have some great backup center for jo Kish. No, 656 00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:31,280 it's DeAndre Jordan and Dario sariz who never plays. 657 00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: Man the Dario. Remember when Boogie Cousins just crushed Dario 658 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,280 Sarretz in those minutes in the Spurs series. That was 659 00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:45,760 what a fever dream that was. Yeah, So I don't know, 660 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,800 it's it's not a good list. I don't think. 661 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,119 Speaker 2: Adam anyone else not on this list on your radar 662 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,079 sign sign wise. 663 00:36:56,119 --> 00:37:00,199 Speaker 1: Bowl Bull Uh, some say better than then? 664 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 2: Uh? 665 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,519 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't see Capella on here. I like Clint Cappella. 666 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: Oh is he Damn? That's a good call. 667 00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 3: Capella is a free agent. I'm pretty sure what uh? 668 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,159 And him back with Harden? I mean, he's not what 669 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,039 he used to be athletically, but he's good. 670 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: He made twenty two twenty three last year, twenty three million. 671 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,440 Do you think you'd go down by nine million. 672 00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 3: To play with Harden again? Oh? Maybe it depends on Yeah. 673 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,840 I don't know how you've used himself? He's got one 674 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,480 more big contract in him? Or does he want to 675 00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:43,840 try to chase a ring? What is? What is his goal? 676 00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:46,199 What about? 677 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,519 Speaker 1: Uh? This is a guy he's flown under the radar. 678 00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:52,079 I don't know if Clippers fans have ever, you know, 679 00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:59,079 thought about adding this guy, John Collins. H he is, 680 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,400 he is going to be a free agent. He made 681 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,079 twenty five last year. I think he's twenty seven. He's 682 00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:07,320 gonna probably want more than one. 683 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,599 Speaker 2: Why do you start with this. 684 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,039 Speaker 1: Because we can't because we I don't think we can 685 00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:19,079 sign him, and I don't think I know he's because 686 00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:21,039 of how they're not going over the first apron to 687 00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:23,320 sign John Collins of. 688 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 2: All the You don't think you don't think they dump 689 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,239 some guys and make a little space. 690 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 3: I don't know who do you they'd have to like 691 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,599 dump Harden I think, And that means Harden would have 692 00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:38,599 to make that decision as well, since he's the one adopted. 693 00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:43,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I also don't think. I don't know how good 694 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,920 John Collins is like we It's not like we bring 695 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,960 him in and suddenly, WHOA, the Clippers are scary, you 696 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:52,559 know what I mean? 697 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 3: I agree, I have a hard time judging where he's at. 698 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,199 He's still young, when he's twenty six or twenty. 699 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: Seven and a half. 700 00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 3: I feel like he's not athletically the same guy that 701 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,440 he was that could put his head on the ram 702 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,639 and dunk on embiid that when he was with Atlanta, 703 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,599 And that's a little bit concerning to me because he's 704 00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:18,840 still so young. But then again, you're in a real 705 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:24,039 bad situation in Utah, real bad. It's hard to judge 706 00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:30,760 guys that are in those spots sometimes. Yeah, he's improved 707 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,039 his three point shooting and if that holds up, then 708 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,639 he makes sense as a guy you could play next 709 00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:42,159 to Vias Zuobots and also some backup five. I don't 710 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,119 I don't hate it. I'm just going back to your points, juck. 711 00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:47,320 Can they really afford him? How did? How has it happen? 712 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,079 Speaker 1: He also played forty games last year, which part of 713 00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:52,559 me wonders. 714 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 3: They were doing some stuff right what find? 715 00:39:55,519 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, how how many games did he really miss? 716 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,280 Like was he unable to play? 717 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,119 Speaker 2: What about? What about old brook Lopez? What about kicking 718 00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:07,960 the tires. 719 00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:11,559 Speaker 3: On that as a backup for fifteen or nine? I'm 720 00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:14,119 good with that. Yeah, he's not going to be able 721 00:40:14,159 --> 00:40:18,159 to play power forward next to Vista Zubats. I think 722 00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:19,559 somebody sit in the comments. 723 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Lot Murray has had some great interactions with some 724 00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:25,280 unhinged people on Twitter. 725 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,039 Speaker 2: Recently, He's at twenty four, but like, there's no way 726 00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:30,639 he's getting anything near that. 727 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure he might get less than ten. 728 00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:41,199 Speaker 1: Hey, less than ten Probably the best guy we're signing 729 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,079 for less than ten million dollars. 730 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 2: I still like Stephen Adams. I. 731 00:40:48,639 --> 00:40:53,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, he played in LA for a year, didn't he 732 00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:58,840 Adams pet? Yeah, I wonder he loves Disneyland. 733 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,119 Speaker 2: He might have a house out here. 734 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,039 Speaker 3: They Yeah, there might be some selling points. 735 00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 2: There, like his family or something. 736 00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:12,679 Speaker 1: He went to Stanford in Milwaukee. 737 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,159 Speaker 3: The last seven years. I don't know. I could see it. 738 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: Him and Batomb would be fun. Vibe wise great. I 739 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:27,039 think they would be a good Yeah. Interesting. Well, let 740 00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:28,960 us know that anything jumps out of the page for 741 00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:34,199 you listeners or viewers. Sorry for whatever comments we're gonna 742 00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:36,280 get saying that we're wrong about John Collins and that 743 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,039 he is the missing piece and that it would be 744 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:42,280 in fact our year should he sign with the LA Clippers. 745 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,079 Speaker 3: But this, guys, how do we get them? 746 00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:47,159 Speaker 1: How do we? Yeah, tell us how we get him 747 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:48,559 with them? 748 00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 3: Just how do we get them? 749 00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? What are we giving a team that is craving assets? 750 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,960 Because it's the Jazz where it's Danny Ainge. We're talking 751 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,679 about here. 752 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,159 Speaker 3: Like, I feel like they might want young assets. I 753 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,760 don't know how many of those are coming over from 754 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,840 the Clippers. 755 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be Jordan Miller and Kobe Brown. Those are 756 00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:08,840 the two only young. 757 00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 3: They're about to be twenty six next year. 758 00:42:11,199 --> 00:42:15,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah, the young is in his biggest clothes 759 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,960 and they haven't really shown very much through reasons that 760 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,519 are not out of their control and some within their control. Yeah, 761 00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:28,320 how do we get them? I don't know. 762 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,679 Speaker 3: Any other option? Right, it's a player option. We're all 763 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,880 expecting him knocked out because he's due. 764 00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: Let me look, man, he signed a big contract player option. 765 00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:49,039 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's like he can become an unstickter free agent. 766 00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:51,679 What he's going to do? Utah favor. They're like, oh, 767 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,960 you guys can sign and trade me. How do you 768 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,000 get him as a free agent that he might make 769 00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:01,039 thirty million dollars a year with the contract, how do 770 00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:03,559 you slot that in and not go over the tax 771 00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:06,280 and not over the first apron? Good luck? 772 00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:07,519 Speaker 1: God, Harden. 773 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:11,599 Speaker 3: Hardens his choice in a lot of ways. 774 00:43:11,679 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I don't know any final thoughts on 775 00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:19,480 this list before we get into what everyone came to 776 00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:23,039 this podcast for, which is dip talk. I didn't look 777 00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:25,679 at point guards because I don't know what they're gonna 778 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,840 do with that prompted probably procked it. 779 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good. There's not a lot of star power 780 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,639 out there that Clippers can actually afford. 781 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,519 Speaker 1: Not yet anyway, talk to us in three hundred and 782 00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:45,280 sixty five days. We'll be going crazy with possibilities. 783 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,599 Speaker 3: Uh we talk and playoffs then, but you know, yeah. 784 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,639 Speaker 1: Well probably still Yeah, it'll be almost a finals preview. 785 00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:55,239 I guess all right, who wants to go first for 786 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,440 the dip talk? We need some kind of jingle for 787 00:43:57,519 --> 00:44:00,000 the dip talk? We can play, but that would require 788 00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:02,440 more editing. Who wants to go first? 789 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 3: He's dipped in a fool, he's dipped in a pool? 790 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 2: Adam, Do you want to go first? Because I believe 791 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,159 your dip is already gone? 792 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,039 Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I couldn't wait. 793 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: Status. 794 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 3: I just went and got some chunky guacamole from Iokiro 795 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:27,039 brand and it's really chunky, pretty good. I got some 796 00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:34,000 real vegetable chips from Tara to dip in them, and uh, 797 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,559 it was quality. It was somewhat healthy and really tasty. 798 00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: You would bring it to a bar, would Oh? Also 799 00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:43,599 for listeners. The gauge the meter is would you bring 800 00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:47,199 this to a barbecue? You were invited for a friendly barbecue? 801 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,760 What'd you bring this to the clips and dip barbecue? 802 00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 3: I would sadly, it'd probably get eat on the way. 803 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: But if history tells us anything. 804 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,679 Speaker 3: Be on the ride, it'd be in the car somewhere. 805 00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:05,119 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go next. I kept it simple. 806 00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:10,639 Trader Joe's Pimento cheese dip. Nothing too crazy, pretty delicious, 807 00:45:11,679 --> 00:45:14,920 shredded sharp cheddar cheese and pickled pimento peppers. I'm enjoying 808 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:22,440 them with salt and pepper ridged chips. Fantastic. Would absolutely 809 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,159 bring this to a barbecue, not necessarily spice, but it's 810 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,679 it's a good dip. It's a nice uh, it's good 811 00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:31,280 for people who Yeah, I don't know. I would bring 812 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,599 this dip to the barbecue for sure, people go look 813 00:45:33,639 --> 00:45:34,400 pretty good. 814 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,559 Speaker 3: That's the chips are really good too. 815 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can never go wrong with salt and 816 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:45,239 pepper reached chips. Will your dip? And would you bring 817 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,480 it to a barbecue? 818 00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:50,280 Speaker 2: All right? So for dip wise, I got this smoked 819 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:57,639 salmon so Zeki dip. Damn this this came from Whole Foods, 820 00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:02,360 and I gotta be with you. I always thought for 821 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,679 a long time that like people in Alaska who are 822 00:46:04,679 --> 00:46:07,159 like really like, they make a big deal out of 823 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,360 not liking Atlantic salmon. I kind of thought it was 824 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,639 like a bit much. But they're right, and this is 825 00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:17,239 Atlantic salmon, and it's definitely it's definitely inferior too to 826 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,039 some like to like some wild Alasking salmon. It's pretty good. 827 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,960 The smoke is a little the smoke is good. I 828 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,119 don't know. There's just not enough really kind of going 829 00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:29,880 on here. Although I will be honest, I drove straight here. 830 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,480 This kind of sat in my car on the way 831 00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:34,440 over here. It's been sitting out. 832 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,079 Speaker 4: Awesome and starting it's been sitting out hot. 833 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,280 Speaker 2: All podcasts is pretty hot in my ause. Uh, I 834 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,960 would add I definitely add like some childs and scalions 835 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,559 and stuff for this. I think I think it could 836 00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:48,320 be improved sun dried tomatoes. 837 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 1: Perhaps that sounds great. 838 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,639 Speaker 2: And I got for chip wise, I got these uh 839 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:59,679 palm crisps. They're everything bagel flavored. Did you let me 840 00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:05,960 taste one of these on their own? This is good? 841 00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:08,960 Pretty good, like it's good, it's good. I like it. 842 00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 3: I like it. 843 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,760 Speaker 2: I don't think it's like that great of a compliment 844 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,360 to this salmon. Like I think the cheese the like 845 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,320 the cheese flavors a little overpowered. 846 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,079 Speaker 1: It's a little chaotic. If I'm being perfectly awesome. 847 00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:21,280 Speaker 2: It's a yeah, it's a it's there's a lot going 848 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,239 on there. Would I bring this to a barbecue, I 849 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,719 mean I'd have to doc your I feel like I'd 850 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:26,920 have to docu the shit out of this. 851 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,679 Speaker 1: But you're basically you're using it as a base. 852 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So and the crisps, like a ringing endorsement 853 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:40,280 is a customers crisp. The crisps, I would not thank you, 854 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,079 because they do not seem very much unless I was, 855 00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:42,679 like at. 856 00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:46,079 Speaker 2: A Keto barbecue, because otherwise I'm like, I'm not I 857 00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:48,599 gotta be honest with you. I'm not shelling out nine 858 00:47:48,679 --> 00:47:50,960 dollars for this size of a bag of chips for 859 00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:53,599 people at a barbecue who like, don't give a ship 860 00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:56,639 about the carb situation, Like what what would be the point? 861 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,000 You can have the salt and pepper ridge chips. Just 862 00:47:59,039 --> 00:47:59,480 have those. 863 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: They're good to act superior. You say these cost me 864 00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:04,079 nine dollars. 865 00:48:04,559 --> 00:48:06,079 Speaker 2: Well, I don't really get down like that. I'm not 866 00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:07,760 trying to I'm not trying to flex or anything. It's 867 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,800 the opposite of a flex. It's the keto tax. 868 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,039 Speaker 1: Okay, so we went two for three on dips. 869 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,599 Speaker 3: Not bad, pretty good. 870 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,679 Speaker 1: Damn. I mean you'd be the best get chewing on Mike. Yeah, okay. 871 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 3: Also better than usual player of the game stuff. 872 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 1: I think we got every single one right last year. 873 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,280 Speaker 2: What's wrong with the player of the games? 874 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 3: I mean, like going to out of thirty? 875 00:48:36,199 --> 00:48:39,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, the we're batt in sixty six. Yeah, all right, 876 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,639 let us know what you think of the dip options. 877 00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:44,079 Send us dip recipes. We'll make them. 878 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm I think the next time we 879 00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:48,880 all get together, I might I might whip something. 880 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna make it. I made one last year. 881 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,480 It was really good. I want to bring it back 882 00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:54,239 for maybe some of the new people who were like, 883 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,920 what what dips do they even make? I got a 884 00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,079 lot of letters about that. 885 00:48:59,719 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 3: Uh. 886 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 2: Did someone do the classic freaking velveto rotel last year? 887 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,119 Speaker 3: No? I don't think someone should. 888 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: I did that. Weird. You can make that in the microwave, baby, 889 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:16,280 I did that weird. Spicy fredo being lasted. It was 890 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,320 actually pretty good. 891 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,320 Speaker 3: You like the cool ranch one though, didn't you? 892 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,760 Speaker 2: Did? You guys both get that at different times? 893 00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 894 00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:29,280 Speaker 3: I got it later as a bit I was like, you, guys, 895 00:49:29,679 --> 00:49:33,119 believe the what I got because Chuck made such a 896 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,559 stink out of how bad it was. 897 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: I kind of had a bad dip season last year 898 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,760 because I also had that really shitty salcea I grabbed that. 899 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,639 It was like apple saucea. That was terrible. All right, 900 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,599 let us know what dips you would like us to review. 901 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:51,280 Send us your family dip recipes. We'll make them. Get 902 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,199 out us to at Clippers Potter Act Clippers podcast on YouTube. 903 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,639 We're gonna be back next week with draft talk, because hey, 904 00:49:58,159 --> 00:50:02,360 anyone we bring up could made be drafted as low 905 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:07,559 as the Clippers are. Should be a good time. Probably 906 00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:09,639 gonna do a mail bag. Send your questions in. We'll 907 00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:12,880 do a mail bag if you have any questions about 908 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,960 free agents just re listening to this episode, we probably 909 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,719 answered all of them. Will where can people now that 910 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,800 we're really getting to the nitty gritty Now that we're 911 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,480 you know, it's more of a tactile pod with the 912 00:50:24,599 --> 00:50:27,480 with the dips and everything. Where can people share their 913 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:28,679 dip recipes if they want. 914 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I'm now is definitely the time to be 915 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,159 following this show. The off season. That's what you tune 916 00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:37,199 in for. Really, I mean the rest of the stuff, 917 00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:41,239 it's just it's noise, you know, it's space. But you 918 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,280 can check the show out wherever you listen to your podcasts, 919 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,800 if you happen to listen over on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 920 00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:47,960 if you leave a little radi and review definitely helps 921 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,079 us out the best way to watch this show. You 922 00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:53,119 can see these dips in color, in in in the 923 00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:59,679 flesh or whatever in the new overright YouTube. 924 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,519 Speaker 3: Not look at that warm salmon, guys. Check it out. 925 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,519 Speaker 4: You can actually smell it on the YouTube. 926 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 2: But yeah, however you listeningever you watch, you know we 927 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,400 appreciate it. We absolutely do more now more than ever 928 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,039 on Yeah. 929 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a real one if you're watching the off season, 930 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,599 and let us know if you remember everything anything about 931 00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:23,920 the movie sixty five Adam. It is the off season, 932 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,440 but we still need it, man, we still need the 933 00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:31,800 Adam Oslin one positive thing. Uh, you got anything at 934 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,800 this point in the off season, you. 935 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,559 Speaker 3: Know, at worst the Clippers got beat by a team 936 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,400 that has taken a sixty eight win team to six games, 937 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,440 or is taking them to seven, or is winning in seven. 938 00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:50,079 Those are all three things are options, and I don't 939 00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:52,840 know my opinion. That kind of changes the outlook on 940 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,239 this Clippers team. And maybe it wasn't as disappointing. Denver's 941 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,280 really good. 942 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, still incredibly disappointment, Maybe not as so. 943 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,760 Speaker 3: I think that's not as far away as I felt 944 00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:12,719 after they lost, you know, not as far away. That 945 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,519 was an abortion. That was different. 946 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,039 Speaker 1: It's different. All right. That wraps up. I hope everyone 947 00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:23,239 has a good weekend. Let us know what dips you 948 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,280 get into, and yeah, we'll be back next week and 949 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,239 as always, let's go Clips.