WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:21.000 Welcome to my world, bitch, good bar. 2 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:36.679 Here. Welcome to the one hundred and seventy sixth episode 3 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:41.039 of the Supernatural Occurrent Studies podcast. 4 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:42.439 So Mythically Paranormal. 5 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:46.240 My name is Jason Knight, host of the show, and 6 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:47.920 with me as always. 7 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:51.000 Is Oscar, motherfucking Inspector. 8 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:58.119 Producer Extraordinary and podcast co host Oscar. Happy. March first, Happy? 9 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:00.520 What's Special's first? 10 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:03.640 Not a damn thing? No? Nothing? Have you been? 11 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:04.519 Okay? 12 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:06.319 Do you like March? Because I feel like it's the 13 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:08.200 beginning of spring in the winter. 14 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:10.519 Too here in the Midwest. It could go either way. 15 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:13.599 It luctuates, you know, heavily. Chicago certainly does. We're in 16 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:15.400 false spring right now. 17 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:19.120 False spring? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yes. Last week I had 18 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:21.480 my windows open. It was in the high fifties. 19 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:23.280 And now it's fucking cold, ash out there, freezing. 20 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.000 Yeah, and you drive You drove through basically a snowstorm 21 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:26.480 to get here. 22 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:29.640 Not crazy. So yeah, marble days, three days, that's what 23 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:32.640 it did. March is a fickle bitch, as they say, Yeah, 24 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:34.439 looks like me. 25 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:38.159 You are kind of fickle, think you. I think one 26 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:41.040 of the worst snowstorms in Chicago. I believe happened in 27 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:41.799 early April. 28 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:46.560 You made in history. Yeah, you know what the year 29 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:46.920 that was? 30 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:48.599 So, no, I don't. I think it was sometime like 31 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:51.040 in the seventies. I always hear about the seventeen seventies. 32 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:53.079 Do you remember that long bro Okay, it was like 33 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:56.680 nineteen seventy seven, seventy eight to Snowstore seventy eight, something 34 00:01:56.680 --> 00:01:56.840 like that. 35 00:01:56.840 --> 00:01:58.480 Sorry, real coach, So only because you reminded me. In 36 00:01:58.519 --> 00:02:00.799 the eighties it was a huge, horrible snowstorm as well. 37 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:02.799 I don't know what year exactly, but it was definitely 38 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:04.680 after I was born, so I had to beat between 39 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:07.439 eighty four and eighty nine somewhere in eighties. My dad 40 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:12.319 mentioned he told me about the story once where he 41 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:14.080 was he wasn't. I don't think he personally wasn't lake 42 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:16.159 Shore Drive, but I know he helped someone. But people 43 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:19.479 were stranded on Lake Shore dry from the heavy heavy 44 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:21.800 winds and snowstorm and ice storms that were coming from 45 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:24.439 the from the lake because it's right off the lake, 46 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:27.439 and people were stranded there. And then there were like 47 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:31.360 huge like buses that were like you know, all the 48 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:34.560 you know, fitted for the storm, coming out there to 49 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:35.639 find and rescue people. 50 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:37.800 With hot chocolates and shit, and that's all night. You 51 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:38.719 don't see that anymore. 52 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:40.560 Yeah, and no, because we fixed a lot of problems 53 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:41.639 and global warming. 54 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:45.759 Well yeah, right, I remember. Yeah, my dad and one 55 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:47.039 of those storms. I don't know if it was in 56 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:48.400 the eighties. I think it was the big one in 57 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:50.639 the late seventies. Yeah, he was stuck somewhere on Lake 58 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:51.599 Shore Drive and. 59 00:02:51.719 --> 00:02:53.599 Must be horrifying. I must be a trip. I have 60 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:54.879 never had that experience myself. 61 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:58.240 So in a Chicago Tribune truck drove by and had 62 00:02:58.240 --> 00:02:59.840 to pick him up. No way, because they were delivering 63 00:02:59.879 --> 00:03:04.479 new papers even in that horrible stormy. Yeah, delivery newspapers. 64 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:07.120 That's the rain shine. It was like the mailman kind. 65 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:08.199 Of but that's cool. 66 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:09.360 Yeah, it just doesn't happen. 67 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:12.319 That's geez to do it in that kind of snowstorm. 68 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:14.599 I would have said, oh, fuck the news. 69 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:17.800 People don't need to know what's going on. I look 70 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:19.280 up the extra actually read. 71 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:22.840 If you don't have a window, you can't afford a newspaper, right. 72 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:26.159 Yeah, so March I can take it or leave it. Yeah, 73 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:28.639 but what's been what's been new with you? 74 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:29.680 What's going Asking me? 75 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:30.639 First, I'm asking you. 76 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:32.039 So I'm excited right now, and I'll tell you this 77 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:34.439 quick thing. But I'm excited because they I'm not going 78 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:36.319 to tell you the name because I feel like free 79 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:39.800 promotion for something I don't know yet. It's very strange, 80 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:45.319 but I am. I've commissioned my latest, my next and biggest. 81 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:48.639 I think it might be my biggest tattoo. It's coming 82 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:52.159 for late March. It's gonna happen. So by the time 83 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:56.159 when the show comes up much for so hopefully by 84 00:03:56.360 --> 00:03:58.879 the next recording I'll have it done. But maybe not 85 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:00.520 even that. I might have to wait to the next one, 86 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.800 depending on what we record. But yeah, I'm at the 87 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:06.479 Chicago Tattoo Convention. I'm gonna go. I commission this great 88 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:09.080 artist I hear great things about from Michigan. He's coming 89 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:12.919 to visit to the convention. I reserve the slot, send 90 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:16.319 a deposit, just like three days ago. Super excited. And 91 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:19.000 do you want to know the design? You can tell 92 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:21.120 your design, all right? So the design is going to 93 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:26.959 cover my entire thigh and it is a hexagonal grid, right, 94 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:30.680 So as to how many squares, how many shapes, I 95 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:32.399 don't know how much will fit. I told them to 96 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:34.079 cover as much as he wants kind of thing, make 97 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:36.279 it a little tasteful, but I'm not like whatever, not 98 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:40.279 like misshaping. And and the whole point of it is 99 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:42.759 that every time I get a new tattoo somewhere on 100 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:44.879 my body, I'm gonna have that artist if they want 101 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:48.160 to fill in one of the squares with something that 102 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:53.079 they want, right, it'll be It'll be like a patchwork 103 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:54.560 of different artists. 104 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:56.920 I love that idea, right, It's. 105 00:04:56.759 --> 00:04:59.000 A cool idea. And I told this artist that I 106 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:02.519 commissioned this grid for to fill in one of those 107 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:04.319 for the first one, and you have no idea what 108 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:06.120 he's gonna do, no idea what I gave him. Three 109 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:09.000 stipulations nothing offensive meaning no swaster does and shit like 110 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:12.319 that you have to make sure well and so none 111 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:15.639 of that. I prefer one color, so like black doesn't 112 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:17.600 count necessarily, but it could just be black, or it 113 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:19.680 could be purple, but not like purple and red for example, 114 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:21.360 like I don't want. I like the idea of solid 115 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:25.319 colors if they want. And then thirdly, no wording like 116 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.240 no only wording like nothing that's just words. I would 117 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:32.720 like something visually that's crazy unique to them. And perfectly 118 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:35.040 something that they always wanted to do. Maybe they never 119 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:38.240 had a chance to something that they love to draw, 120 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:40.199 you know, to design whatever they want. 121 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:43.399 That is. That's a I've never seen that before. 122 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:44.240 Yeah, I figure it. 123 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:44.439 You know. 124 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:48.000 It kind of gives the artists something completely freedom to 125 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:50.279 do something like that, so that they often don't get 126 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:52.720 a lot of freedom because it's not their body they're tattooing, 127 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:54.879 right right, So interesting. 128 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:56.920 So what this means now is that you're gonna have 129 00:05:56.920 --> 00:05:58.879 to get a lot more fucking tattoos so that grid 130 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:01.600 fills up it doesn't just look like a honeycomber. 131 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:04.399 That's the whole because that it will show more initiative 132 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:05.959 for me to get more of them, because I've always 133 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:08.560 wanted tattoos and I want to be covered in jay, 134 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:11.079 as you've known thirty years of knowing me or whatever, 135 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:15.519 twenty something years. Sorry, I just never got to pull 136 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:19.079 the trigger most years, for like decades, I didn't do it. 137 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:21.399 I did like the first few years of my eighteen 138 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:24.120 to twenty five, and then I stopped, you know, so 139 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:25.519 I'm recontinuing again. 140 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:28.920 So good for you, man. Yeah, that's crazy. Uh. And 141 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:32.839 so that was one thing you also told me another one, right. 142 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:34.920 Yeah, I'm getting another tattoo about a week later. 143 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:35.439 I've been. 144 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:41.199 What do you call it, scheduled yet as a different artist, 145 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:42.959 and I'm going to have her do because I have 146 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:45.120 a Kirby tattoo on my right. 147 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:47.920 Calf or on their Kirby for those who don't know, Kirby. 148 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:51.480 Oh, it's a video game character, pink balloon character that 149 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:55.759 swallows up people and inherits their attributes, attributes. And this 150 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:58.879 Kirby that I currently have is a Kirby that is 151 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:01.959 that eight a hell kitty, So it looks like Hello, Kitty, Kirby. 152 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:04.399 That's right, right, I haven't seen it, so I have 153 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:07.199 a commission to do another one that's like that. A 154 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:10.040 Kirby that ate a Pokemon, one of my favorite pokemons. 155 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:12.079 So I'm gonna have it on the opposite side of 156 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:12.959 the same leg. 157 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:15.360 So very cool. Did you say you said you wanted 158 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:16.240 to have your whole leg? 159 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:18.959 I wanted the entire right leg from the calf down 160 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:20.759 to the ankle, filled with Kirby's. 161 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:21.879 That's what I want. 162 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:24.680 And I have a Kirby tattoo artist just for that. 163 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:26.160 So awesome. 164 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:27.240 Yeah, that's gonna happen. 165 00:07:28.279 --> 00:07:30.399 I'm excited for you. Thank you. We could when you 166 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:32.519 get them, let's get some pictures. Oh yeah, we put 167 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:34.240 it on website, put up on our Instagram, on the 168 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:37.079 website and stuff. Yeah, that's awesome. Good for you. Yeah, 169 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:40.000 I'm it's been It's been a very long time for 170 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:41.480 me since I've had a tattoo. 171 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:42.600 I know you've been telling me. 172 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:45.639 And I have been kind of itching' it'sunn because it 173 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:49.279 makes you itchy. It does, yes, it does, but so 174 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:51.839 who knows, maybe I'll maybe I'll join along with. 175 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:53.399 You and yeah, hopefully inspires you. 176 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:55.480 I love tattoos because I know someone who's going to 177 00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:58.879 be at that convention tattooing. So maybe i'll nice. Maybe 178 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:00.439 I'll make a phone call a guy. 179 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:03.600 Yeah that's true. What about you? What you've been on too, man? 180 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:06.720 You know, just working nothing too crazy over the last month. 181 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:11.040 I do. Right now, I feel really bad for my daughter. 182 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:15.519 She's seventeen and uh and we're going through it right now. 183 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:19.560 And she was getting pain in her in her wisdom 184 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:22.839 teeth on one side of her face. Okay, So it 185 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:24.000 got to the point where you. 186 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:25.519 Got the chisel and the hammer. 187 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:28.160 Basically right, you know. So we finally went in and 188 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:30.959 took a look and yeah, you know, two of them 189 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.799 could come out. And the orthodontis was like, well, you know, 190 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:36.440 or the oral surgeon excuse me, It was like, you know, 191 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:39.200 while you're under, you might as well do. It's an 192 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:41.600 up cell, is what it is. Oh yeah, that's that's 193 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:48.360 how Yeah that's on top of your steak children. Right. 194 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:51.159 But we we thought about it. We talked about it, 195 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:54.080 and you know, there is a chance later on in 196 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:57.080 life something could happen if you're gonna go under, get 197 00:08:57.120 --> 00:09:00.559 all for them, right, let's just so Talia read. We 198 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:03.159 talked about it. So she had that procedure done two 199 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:08.200 days ago and during the procedure she woke up the. 200 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:10.679 Way and which I hear can't happen, but it's. 201 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:14.360 She had some sort of reaction to the anestese anesthesis, Yeah, 202 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:19.360 anesthetic anesthetic. Yeah, it's anesthetic. Sure, And so she woke 203 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:22.440 up during and the doctor pulled me into a room 204 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:26.240 after after she was done, the doctor brought me into 205 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:28.840 the room to see her, and she was out of it. 206 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:33.720 She was kind of laughing and I was like completely right. 207 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:36.840 And then he pulled me into He's like, come, I 208 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:38.639 want to talk to you. He pulls me into a 209 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:40.360 separate room with his nurse. I'm like, what the fuck 210 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:40.720 is this? 211 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:42.360 And a short saw shotgun. 212 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:46.600 I paid my bill? What are we doing? And that's 213 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:48.720 the other thing too, Dental insurance is a fucking joke, 214 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:52.440 let me tell you. But uh so he closed the door. 215 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:54.559 I'm like, whoa, what's going on. He's like, well, I 216 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:57.039 want you to know if you see bruising on your 217 00:09:57.080 --> 00:10:00.320 I said, well, bruising on my daughter. What do you mean? Well, 218 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:04.080 she woke up during the procedure. She woke up. He said, 219 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:07.600 she was like a wild animal. Five people had to 220 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:08.240 restrain her. 221 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:08.960 Oh wow. 222 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.639 Yeah, she was freaking out, freaking out, completely freaking out 223 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:14.840 and crazy. The nurse goes to me, she's like, your 224 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:18.840 daughter is strong, you know. I'm like, thanks, I guess, 225 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:21.360 but I felt so bad for her and you. 226 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:22.480 Should have ad met her right then and there. 227 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:24.600 Yeah, she fights homeless people on the weekend. You're right, 228 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:27.759 I should have told her about it. So she's going 229 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:30.679 through the healing process now. But surprisingly, with all of 230 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:33.799 the trauma that happened, she's not having a lot of pain. 231 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:36.399 The surgeon did a good job, but man, could you 232 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:38.879 imagine waking up during that. I can't imagine waking up 233 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:39.200 during that. 234 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:41.840 No, but there's a good heart. There's a few horror 235 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:43.799 movies that do that. There's a horror movie called The Dentist. 236 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:45.039 Do they do that in that movie? 237 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:48.440 I don't know. I don't know the ladies, I don't remember. 238 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:49.639 I think I know what you're talking about. 239 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:51.879 Right, I think I think what we're talking about. It 240 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:54.360 was just not one hundred percent sure. No, that's horrifying. 241 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:58.720 That is I never had that happen. I've had a 242 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:00.080 few surgeries in my life, but no, And that's. 243 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:02.399 I mean either once I'm out of them out. Yeah, 244 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:06.519 and when she got home again, she was so loopy, 245 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:08.879 so out of it. Blood was but you remember fighting 246 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:10.440 back and all that. So that's the thing. So she 247 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:13.200 goes while she was trying to talk to me with 248 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:18.279 a numb mouth, she she got across that she remembered 249 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:21.399 the doctor yelling at her, And I'm like, oh, Talia, 250 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:24.480 you know you're probably just you're just invented your mind. 251 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:27.480 You pulled the la I did until because I want 252 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:29.919 her to be awake and like alert when we have 253 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:32.600 this conversation about what happened. But she remembered. That's what 254 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:35.639 she remembered. Everything else no clue. She's like, Dad, I'll 255 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:38.360 remember seeing the needle and then the doctor. 256 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:40.399 Can cause on do trauma in the future. 257 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:42.039 I don't know. I hope not. 258 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:44.039 No, I hope not too. I really hope not. But 259 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:46.279 it could. I mean, keep this in your back pocket 260 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:46.759 in case you. 261 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:49.919 Will tell her we're worried because she has another she 262 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:51.759 has something else coming up in a few weeks where 263 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:55.519 she's got to go under again, and uh, we're nervous. Now. 264 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:57.919 Maybe watch Get Out and see how they put that 265 00:11:57.919 --> 00:11:59.720 guy under and if they could do the same thing, 266 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:01.799 maybe do a little deeper, deeper dive. 267 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:04.120 But it was it's a crazy it's just a crazy thing. 268 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:05.399 Yeah, no, that's insane. 269 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:06.519 I can't imagine. 270 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:07.519 That's a horror movie. 271 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:09.600 That's what it is. Just told me a horror movie. 272 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:10.559 That's crazy. Help you. 273 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:14.480 I know she's okay, obviously she hope she Yeah, I'm 274 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:15.039 glad she's. 275 00:12:14.919 --> 00:12:17.320 Okay, thank you. But now we have to figure out 276 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:19.000 for the next thing that she's got going on. 277 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:20.799 You know, if I was her dad, I would buy 278 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:22.559 her like a movie with like I would buy her 279 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:25.279 The Marathon Man. Have you in the Marathon man, they 280 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:30.519 torture people with drilling your teeth. Oh like force force them. Yeah, 281 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:32.480 I would, That's how That's how I would parent, Like 282 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:35.879 I would. I would immediately go buy a movie or 283 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:38.399 get a movie that will horrify their experience. They would 284 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:41.960 like join them in some experience similar cathartic. When one 285 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:44.480 of my friends got pregnant once in the twenty tents, 286 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:47.159 I got her a series of movies and they were 287 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:50.039 all themed around pregnant horror movies because she was pregnant 288 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:53.240 and she watched like, I think all of them. She 289 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:55.039 was like, Oh, she was a she was a real tooper. 290 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:57.159 She loved it. She loved it. Great friend. But it 291 00:12:57.200 --> 00:12:58.000 could have easily. 292 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:04.159 Gone South's my point, because there a horror movie yes anyway. 293 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:06.039 Yeah, so I mean that's kind of the latest newest 294 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:10.559 thing rund here unfortunately. But otherwise we're just chucking along, man, 295 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:14.399 joking along. Ready to give the listeners another dose of 296 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:21.600 sick fuckery on this story or fuck sickery. Absolutely, you 297 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:23.000 just took a sip when you made that joke. What 298 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:23.960 are we drinking tonight? 299 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:25.120 Something from a bottle? 300 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:27.840 You're liking this one? You've had a few pores ready. 301 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:31.360 This is a peerless small batch. It's from it's from Kentucky. 302 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:34.559 It's one hundred and ten proof, and I am really 303 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:35.240 enjoying it. 304 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:36.159 It's really enjoyable. 305 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:42.879 There's a lot of flavors, a lot of smells. Sense. Yeah, 306 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:44.200 I don't have the palette. 307 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:46.240 It's a color It's like a colorful action movie where 308 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:47.039 the bad guy wins. 309 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:47.480 It's great. 310 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:49.879 Oh you take a picture of you got it? 311 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:54.120 Take that picture, take it. Get me in that picture too. No, 312 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:55.879 I look terrible. It's super late. 313 00:13:55.960 --> 00:13:57.919 I didn't think I just got your hand. Don't worry. 314 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:00.440 M all right, what do you think? 315 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:01.360 Take a break? 316 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:04.200 Yeah, that's a short intro. You know, I have wanted 317 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:06.000 to say something I haven'ten wanting to sell. And we 318 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:08.840 haven't made this announcement in quite a while. Listeners who 319 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:11.519 don't like our long intros, can we still get little 320 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:13.679 emails once in a while. Look, or you see on 321 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:16.080 YouTube we talk for fifteen minutes, eat a dick. 322 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:18.000 Or as my mom would say, if you have nothing nice 323 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:18.919 to say, don't say it at all. 324 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:22.679 Yeah, that's right. But you could always go to the 325 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:24.519 show notes because we do put a time stamp where 326 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:26.399 you could just get straight to the topic. Yeah, get 327 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:27.840 to said that like a year. 328 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:29.519 Yeah right, you haven't. We should every once in a 329 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:30.759 while with mind people, Yes. 330 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.480 That's true. But I will tell you, you know, I 331 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:36.039 always say, oh, write the show, what are your thoughts? 332 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:38.240 No one ever says anything, you know, when people say something, 333 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:41.440 whenever that that topic comes back around of you know, 334 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:44.039 should we really should we really cut our intros and 335 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:46.399 make them super short and just get into the topic. 336 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:48.320 That's when people jump in and be like, no, man, 337 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:49.879 keep it. We like listen to you guys, you know 338 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:50.360 your book. 339 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:51.919 I always told you over the years, like, no, we 340 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:53.720 should do whatever the fuck we want to do because 341 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:54.759 people could just skip to it. 342 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:56.200 You're right, so check the show notes. 343 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:58.120 So if you don't like it, yes, exactly, or they 344 00:14:58.120 --> 00:14:58.960 can make your own podcast. 345 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:04.159 You put in the time research. Right, Let's take a break. 346 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:04.720 Let's do that. 347 00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:44.759 M listening listeners, welcome back to the show. Well, the 348 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:48.679 lights are turned down low, the ceremonial candle is lit, 349 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:57.000 and the drinks are flowing. Let's start this show. Baraboo, 350 00:15:57.039 --> 00:16:01.320 Wisconsin wakes in the soft light of a summer morning, 351 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:04.519 the air thick with the scent of dew on the 352 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:11.120 River and sweet funnel cakes from the Circus World Museum. Barboo, Wisconsin, 353 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:15.360 lies ninety two miles northwest of Madison, the state capitol, 354 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:20.080 and one hundred and ninety miles from Chicago, and only 355 00:16:20.120 --> 00:16:23.919 a short eighteen minute drive from the famed Wisconsin Dells, 356 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:28.879 a Midwest tourist mecca. The Dells is famous for its 357 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:35.720 massive water parks, ziplines, bungee jumps, duck boat tours, annularia, 358 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:41.720 fund shops, and countless souvenir stores, as well as quirky 359 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:46.919 attractions like H one N one COVID did not start 360 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:52.039 in Wisconsin Dell's quirky attractions like Ripley's Believe It or Not, 361 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:57.519 haunted houses and those old timey photo studios. But back 362 00:16:57.519 --> 00:17:01.360 in bear Aboo it's much quieter. Its streets are lined 363 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:05.319 with stately brick and limestone buildings that have sheltered local 364 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:08.960 shops and families for more than a century. Known as 365 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:13.759 Circus City not Circuit City, it was here, in eighteen 366 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:17.599 eighty four that the Ringling Brothers launched their first performances, 367 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:22.160 a legacy still visible in the opulent Wringling Mansion with 368 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:27.480 its faded posters of acrobats and elephants, music, drifts and 369 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:32.000 echoes from summer parades and museum events. On any normal day, 370 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:36.119 children laugh along the banks of the Barboo River, fishermen 371 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:39.960 crouch over bass streams, and hikers follow the rugged trails 372 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:43.319 of the Driftless Area, a rare stretch of the Midwest 373 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:48.599 untouched by glaciers, where ridges rise steep and forests slope 374 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:53.759 down to clear spring freed waters. The driftless terrain gives 375 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:59.160 the town its character. Dramatic river beds, jagged bluffs, hidden waterfalls, 376 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:04.240 and valleys carved over millennia. It's a land that draws 377 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:08.440 the curious and the adventurous, a landscape meant for exploration 378 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:13.400 and daydreams. Yet in the summers of nineteen ninety four 379 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:18.640 and nineteen ninety five, this serene scene, the rustle of leaves, 380 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.559 the shimmer of water, the nostalgic hum of Circus history, 381 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:28.200 became the backdrop for horrors so unimaginable that Baraboo would 382 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:32.279 never see its streets the same way again. Beneath the 383 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:37.640 town's gentle rhythms, a darkness had quietly taken route, waiting 384 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:42.960 to be revealed in the most unspeakable ways. The Fourth 385 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:47.279 of July weekend in nineteen ninety four brought sunshine, fireworks, 386 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:53.920 and barbecues to Barriboo, and then silence. Chris Steiner, a 387 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:56.000 fourteen year old boy who lived with his parents in 388 00:18:56.039 --> 00:19:00.480 the heart of town, vanished. His parents were ported a 389 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:04.880 missing on July fourth, after finding his bed empty and 390 00:19:05.079 --> 00:19:09.240 unsettling signs of intrusion. In his bedroom. The screen of 391 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:13.640 his window had been sliced open, muddy footprints marred the carpet, 392 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:17.759 and a patio door stood unlocked, despite the family's belief 393 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:20.599 that Chris had been sound asleep when they went to 394 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:26.240 bed for the night. For days, investigators and neighbors searched fields, 395 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:31.000 river banks and trails, every glance heavy with hope and 396 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:35.319 a mix of dread. Then, on July tenth, nineteen ninety four, 397 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:39.240 Chris Steiner's body was found draped over a partially submerged 398 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:43.240 tree along a sandy bank of the Wisconsin River near 399 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:47.240 the Pine Island Wild Refuge just north of Portage, Wisconsin. 400 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:53.240 An autopsy concluded that Chris had drowned. Water was found 401 00:19:53.279 --> 00:19:56.519