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Speaker 2: Another game day, another beautiful day. Well, I keep saying that,
Speaker 2: And even if the weather has gotten bad already, it's
Speaker 2: still beautiful to me because today is we're both local
Speaker 2: fan bases around here. Louisvill fans Andi Kentucky fans are
Speaker 2: or riding a high from last night, how their teams
Speaker 2: won nearly lost, of course, but found a way to win,
Speaker 2: and sometimes just not only enjoying the feeling that you
Speaker 2: get from this, but just thinking about how bad I mean,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have just been able to like have any
Speaker 2: other day, right if things go the different direction which
Speaker 2: you look like they were going last night with both
Speaker 2: teams about to choke it, I mean, Louisville came all
Speaker 2: the way back and then let an eight point lead
Speaker 2: disappear quickly. Kentucky quite literally gave the game away until
Speaker 2: they were able to get a game game winning shot
Speaker 2: from Oway, just like Louisville did with Chucky So I mean,
Speaker 2: just think about how much different today is if those
Speaker 2: these things don't happen. Chucky Heburn doesn't get to put
Speaker 2: back as time expires, and Oway doesn't go coast to
Speaker 2: coast to get his second game winner against his former
Speaker 2: team in the same season, which is just a crazy
Speaker 2: thing to say. So it is beautiful around here, regardless
Speaker 2: of what the weather may look like, but it does
Speaker 2: sound like it's gonna get nasty this weekend, that's for sure.
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Speaker 2: you caught up on all the games going on right now,
Speaker 2: and of course games that have already concluded. Auburn got
Speaker 2: a scare from All Miss but did survive, so they'll
Speaker 2: move on to the semi finals tomorrow. Michigan State got
Speaker 2: a big win against Oregon. Michigan State looks insanely good
Speaker 2: right now. I don't know what they'll do in the
Speaker 2: tournament because you kind of never know when it comes
Speaker 2: to the Big Ten. The Big Ten for a long
Speaker 2: time now has had really, really really good teams, a
Speaker 2: really good league. I mean, sometimes it's been better than
Speaker 2: other years, but I mean, them not winning a national
Speaker 2: championship in twenty five years is an insane thing to
Speaker 2: think about when you consider that they're still viewed as
Speaker 2: annually one of the top two leagues in college basketball
Speaker 2: every year. I mean, and yet they know they usually
Speaker 2: don't go deep in March, and they have had some
Speaker 2: teams get all the way to the championship game only
Speaker 2: to you know, to lose. Also looks like it's final
Speaker 2: between Memphis and Wichita State. That was a close game
Speaker 2: and that one has probably not won anybody around here
Speaker 2: cares about. However, had Michigan lost and Whichita State continue
Speaker 2: to move forward, they could have been a potential bidstealer.
Speaker 2: And that's with the bubble being what it is is
Speaker 2: you know, bit stealing is is gonna somebody's gonna steal
Speaker 2: a bit, I think, and it's gonna break some hearts
Speaker 2: for bubble teams that'll that'll miss out on the tournament
Speaker 2: because of that. All right, currently we've got some games
Speaker 2: in action. UCLA is getting their ass kicked by Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: I looked up at the screen, saw that the score
Speaker 2: was sixty to forty it's sixty to forty three now.
Speaker 3: But just a two things that I looked at.
Speaker 2: The first thing I saw when I turned on this,
Speaker 2: when I looked up to see UCLA Wisconsin on my screen,
Speaker 2: was Mick Cronin smiling and laughing, but his team's getting killed.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he was doing it sarcastically, you know,
Speaker 2: going after a rap or what it was. But also
Speaker 2: I looked at the Yukon game, and sure enough, first
Speaker 2: thing I saw Dan Hurley screaming.
Speaker 3: Like a lunatic.
Speaker 2: So I think that's kind of just, you know, sounds
Speaker 2: about right. And I'm not even sure if they're playing
Speaker 2: right now, but it was the first they were either
Speaker 2: they were showing a Yukon game. That's that's coming up, lay,
Speaker 2: That's what it was. They were showing a Yukon it
Speaker 2: was Yukon Creighton preview. But when you're looking for b
Speaker 2: roll to put up there of Dan Hurley, you know,
Speaker 2: just some footage to have playing on the screen while
Speaker 2: you're discussing the matchup in his Yukon Huskies.
Speaker 3: The majority of what you're gonna see is.
Speaker 2: Probably him screaming at referees or losing his mind like
Speaker 2: a lunatic, because you know, that's kind of.
Speaker 3: What he does.
Speaker 2: Or Mick Cronan just looking like a main Yeah, like
Speaker 2: Cronin smiling threw me off, but it was probably like
Speaker 2: an evil smile because he's he seems like a real
Speaker 2: miserable human being.
Speaker 3: He's the only one that cares. He's I mean, they'll
Speaker 3: get in.
Speaker 2: They're twenty two and nine, but like I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: this team UCLA probably losing in the first round in
Speaker 2: close fashion that would put them at twenty two and
Speaker 2: ten when it's all said and done, probably get like
Speaker 2: an eight seed, lose to him and nine. That is
Speaker 2: quite literally what Mick Cronin.
Speaker 3: Is as a head coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna get twenty wins, but he's likely going
Speaker 2: to never get over the hump, be good enough to
Speaker 2: you know, not be viewed as a terrible coach, and
Speaker 2: then you'll he'll have an occasional season where he's got
Speaker 2: a really real good regular season to where he gets
Speaker 2: a decent seed and then they'll end up, you know,
Speaker 2: bowing out early.
Speaker 3: I mean, anyways, we'll move on.
Speaker 2: We don't need to give Mick Cronin any more of
Speaker 2: our time today, all right, So a job has become open.
Speaker 2: Iowa has decided to fire freand McCaffrey, which is no
Speaker 2: real surprise given that things run its course there.
Speaker 3: So here's what is interesting.
Speaker 2: Yesterday, Indiana it was reported that they have I don't know,
Speaker 2: and you never know what to believe when it comes
Speaker 2: to the coaching searches, but it would make total sense
Speaker 2: if Indiana is interested in Ben McCollum because I don't
Speaker 2: know how, I mean, Drake had to know if this
Speaker 2: guy is what we think he is, like, we won't
Speaker 2: have him long because we're the first school that's going
Speaker 2: to take a chance on going and getting a guy
Speaker 2: from the D two level who's been dominant and seeing
Speaker 2: if he can bring it over to the D one level.
Speaker 2: And clearly he did that and was phenomenal this year
Speaker 2: in his first season at Drake, and it will likely
Speaker 2: be his last season because Indiana, I mean that would
Speaker 2: be a no brainer job for Ben McCollum.
Speaker 3: I mean, and I think he would do well wherever
Speaker 3: he goes. I do.
Speaker 2: I just think he, to me, is is the kind
Speaker 2: of coach that more than ever deserves the opportunity to
Speaker 2: coach a high level program Because you don't need to
Speaker 2: have some of the credentials that you used to have
Speaker 2: to really not only get those big jobs, but thrive
Speaker 2: in those big jobs. You now it can you know,
Speaker 2: transactional situations can help you if you could, if you
Speaker 2: got money to go get players. This guy's proven he
Speaker 2: can get people to believe in him, he can get
Speaker 2: people to buy in. He's done it. He has a
Speaker 2: formula that's worked. It worked at an insane level at
Speaker 2: the D two level, and so far, so good at Drake.
Speaker 2: So again, I guess there's always a chance it doesn't
Speaker 2: work out. You never know, But I just think Ben
Speaker 2: McCollum is the kind of guy that that you know,
Speaker 2: has proven he can win. And you know, things that
Speaker 2: used to deter you from going after a guy like that,
Speaker 2: I just don't think are as big of a factor anymore.
Speaker 2: So Indiana would be a no brainer, But now Iowa
Speaker 2: is open and I did not realize he's an Iowa guy,
Speaker 2: like he's I mean, I mean makes I mean, I
Speaker 2: knew he was from Iowa, but it sounds as if
Speaker 2: like he's I mean, he's when he when he thinks
Speaker 2: of college basketball as a fan, not a coach. He
Speaker 2: thinks of the of the Iowa Hawkeys. He's from Iowa City,
Speaker 2: did not play there, and from from what I can tell,
Speaker 2: he's never spent any time as a staff or anything
Speaker 2: like that. But if Home calls, meaning Iowa and offers
Speaker 2: him the job, I mean, I don't know what he
Speaker 2: would do. Who knows, but Indiana not being able to
Speaker 2: get their coach because he wants to go to Iowa
Speaker 2: would kind of just be Indiana's luck, right like, because
Speaker 2: Indiana just it seems like since Bob Knight, you know,
Speaker 2: like they've really been irrelevant.
Speaker 3: And I've defended Indiana for for.
Speaker 2: Years now as far as yeah, they are clearly in
Speaker 2: the has been category, but they still have everything you
Speaker 2: would need to have to win and win at a
Speaker 2: high level. They just can't get the coach thing.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So, now, if in fact, if in fact he doesn't
Speaker 2: take Indiana arms, if he doesn't go home to Iowa
Speaker 2: and McCallum doesn't up in Indiana.
Speaker 3: A name to keep in mind.
Speaker 2: For Iowa would would be a guy that also would
Speaker 2: be coming there after just one season at his previous school. So, uh,
Speaker 2: Davy's Devrees. I always get it, always get it confused.
Speaker 2: It's but it's it's the guy who was at Drake
Speaker 2: who left Drake to go to West Virginia, which led
Speaker 2: to Ben McCallum going to.
Speaker 3: Drake Freeze, right, yeah, I think it's Degrees. Yeah. Devrai
Speaker 3: is like.
Speaker 4: The uh that college that came on that with the
Speaker 4: commercials at like eleven o'clock on, like.
Speaker 2: Yep n they would just insult you for so what
Speaker 2: are you doing? Sit on the couch, Why don't you
Speaker 2: do anything? But you get him off your ask you
Speaker 2: go go go get a career.
Speaker 4: There's that guy on the guy on the bridge in
Speaker 4: the little over section, just telling you how much a
Speaker 4: piece of crap you are.
Speaker 2: Get off the couch and go, you know, go find
Speaker 2: some motivation and come and roll at Devrai. Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: there's the plug. But anyways, Darien Darien Devrees is the
Speaker 2: is the head coach at West Virginia.
Speaker 3: Was there one year, and he's also in Iowa.
Speaker 2: Guy, So if they want to keep it, you know,
Speaker 2: if they want to keep the Iowa can go, and
Speaker 2: they could get two good coaches out of those two.
Speaker 3: But you just got to think about the dominoes here.
Speaker 2: So if in fact he did leave West Virginia, that
Speaker 2: would mean West Virginia's job would be open after just
Speaker 2: one season with him there. And that's a good job too,
Speaker 2: And I think they did a good job in hiring him,
Speaker 2: But you know, I doubt they probably thought they'd lose
Speaker 2: they potentially lose him, you know, to Iowa just one
Speaker 2: year in. But again there's a domino effect when it
Speaker 2: comes to these kind of moves. Also, I don't know
Speaker 2: if I mean, I feel like the reporting out there
Speaker 2: from those that cover in C State as well as
Speaker 2: those that cover college basketball nationally, despite there being some
Speaker 2: pushback early on or maybe just no interest internally, North
Speaker 2: Carolina State has either changed their mind themselves, or what
Speaker 2: it sounds like is the money people, the people who
Speaker 2: you know you need to give a lot of money,
Speaker 2: right because you've never needed money more than ever, because
Speaker 2: you're not going to start having to pay twenty million
Speaker 2: dollars annually to share revenue with athletes. So the money folks,
Speaker 2: you know, they matter, and they wanted n C State's
Speaker 2: administration to know we want Will Wade, and Will Wade
Speaker 2: I guess has already met with him once and it's
Speaker 2: going to meet with him again either today or tomorrow,
Speaker 2: and maybe they have it finalized. But I mean, if
Speaker 2: I'm to go back to Drake, Drake had to know
Speaker 2: if they if the guy they hired was who they
Speaker 2: thought he was, they weren't going to have him long.
Speaker 2: So to be fair, you know, they had to realize
Speaker 2: it was worth doing it. We had another good year,
Speaker 2: but we're gonna have to go find another coach. Same thing,
Speaker 2: you know, I think could be said about McNee State.
Speaker 2: You know, they knew they were willing to their McNeese State.
Speaker 2: They're willing to take a pr hit and hire Will Wade.
Speaker 2: He's a damn good coach, and now they can't be
Speaker 2: surprised as they entered the tournament for the second consecutive year.
Speaker 2: There's clearly a distraction where he may have a new
Speaker 2: employer by the time you guys played in the postseason.
Speaker 2: So again, you want to be able to win when
Speaker 2: you get there and I'm sure he'll still coach them,
Speaker 2: but it wouldn't be a shocker if like they've got
Speaker 2: a done deal, he's gonna coach. He's gonna coach McNeese
Speaker 2: and as soon as it's over, they announced him as
Speaker 2: the NC State head coach. Which, again, if those are
Speaker 2: the hires that they play out, or if that's one
Speaker 2: of the hires that has made in the ACC, I mean,
Speaker 2: will Wade anywhere in the AEC is gonna be good
Speaker 2: for the AEC. In my opinion, I think it would
Speaker 2: have made more sense for him to go to Miami,
Speaker 2: but n C State's also a place that he could
Speaker 2: he could have success at all. Right, again, it's Coffee
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Speaker 2: Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us last night.
Speaker 2: I mean, what a night, What a reminder as far
Speaker 2: as you know what this thing can do to you
Speaker 2: on both sides of the spectrum. We were reborn essentially,
Speaker 2: you know, came back from the dead, brought back to life,
Speaker 2: however you want to phrase it. That's what this team
Speaker 2: this season did for us, and that led to us,
Speaker 2: you know, being super excited yesterday, just to get the
Speaker 2: postseason started with some real belief and some you know,
Speaker 2: justified confidence in your team.
Speaker 3: And then you know, they come out and they were really, really,
Speaker 3: really bad.
Speaker 2: I mean that's probably an exaggeration, but they just so
Speaker 2: they just weren't themselves. And that's the one thing I
Speaker 2: never felt like we had to worry about. But what
Speaker 2: I believe is that, you know, it's a reminder that
Speaker 2: they're human. I don't think they came out there legitimately scared.
Speaker 3: There was just a little bit.
Speaker 2: Of complacency that we don't typically see, not as much urgency,
Speaker 2: and once they got down, it was kind of like
Speaker 2: they were a little bit in shock that that it
Speaker 2: was happening.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: They couldn't ever really get any offensive rhythm at all.
Speaker 2: They had a lot of unforced turnovers. Stanford, you know,
Speaker 2: couldn't buy a bucket early if you remember. And then
Speaker 2: they got hot, right Like I just kept thinking, you know,
Speaker 2: Louisville hasn't really established any offensive rhythm in the first
Speaker 2: thirty minutes or so first twenty five minutes.
Speaker 3: I should say.
Speaker 2: And Stanford they're not great, but they're starting to make shots,
Speaker 2: they're starting to get confidence. One team started, you know,
Speaker 2: one team stayed in one spot, whereas Stanford started to
Speaker 2: kind of slowly get more comfortable, make shots and really
Speaker 2: have some confidence. And then you know, Louisville showed us
Speaker 2: that they're a resilient group that's tough. And I don't
Speaker 2: want to say this will be like an all time game.
Speaker 2: You remember, you'll probably remember Chucky's buzzer beater because it's
Speaker 2: been a while since we had one of those in March,
Speaker 2: and man, it was awesome. But the game, you know,
Speaker 2: I when it felt as if, Okay, there's still a
Speaker 2: lot of time left, but some's got to give. This
Speaker 2: team has not been themselves, like there's not as much urgency.
Speaker 2: Stanford deserves credit for making shots and also doing a
Speaker 2: good job it really, you know, kind of daring certain
Speaker 2: guys to do things that's outside of their game, right,
Speaker 2: Like they took James Scott away from the rim for
Speaker 2: a good chunk of the game. When he's not near
Speaker 2: the rim, he's a liability for you offensively, and that's
Speaker 2: what they want, right. You know, they were they were
Speaker 2: clearly having a tough time containing Terrence Edwards, but they
Speaker 2: did a pretty good job at defending the pick and
Speaker 2: roll with Chucky. They did a pretty good job, and
Speaker 2: Javon Hadley I just think was kind of a non factor.
Speaker 2: So my worry wasn't just because of the deficit and
Speaker 2: you know it being the second half. It was just
Speaker 2: because unless something changes drastically, like this is not gonna
Speaker 2: go well. And then sure enough it did. There's the
Speaker 2: time out, the first time I can remember a timeout
Speaker 2: like that being needed where you had to call time
Speaker 2: was gonna get away from you. I mean it kind
Speaker 2: of already did. You were down fifteen, and these guys
Speaker 2: just collectively, I mean clearly it was a collective effort,
Speaker 2: but it was Chucky Hepburn who said, look, we're not
Speaker 2: losing this game, and you know what, he was right.
Speaker 3: They didn't. And we'll see. Louisville's a beatable team. We
Speaker 3: know that.
Speaker 2: We've been reminded of that all year, even throughout the wins.
Speaker 2: We know this team, like anybody, could slip up.
Speaker 3: It happens.
Speaker 2: But there just seems to be some magic with the
Speaker 2: one and only Chucky Hepburn, as far as he's not
Speaker 2: gonna let us lose. I mean, Louisville is not favorite Tonight,
Speaker 2: they're expected to lose when it comes to that kind
Speaker 2: of thing, pointspread and whatnot. But I'm sure these guys
Speaker 2: don't approach it that way. And just you know, not
Speaker 2: to get sentimental here, but like just being able to
Speaker 2: call my dad and talk about last night's game and
Speaker 2: tonight's game, and you know, it's just a reminder I
Speaker 2: was a lot younger whenever the last time I was
Speaker 2: in that position where you know, my dad who you know,
Speaker 2: it's basically his religion Louisville Baskets, all Louisville Cardinals, and
Speaker 2: that's you know, rubbed off on me. That's you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's basically been a huge part of my life forever,
Speaker 2: and I don't ever see that changing. But the last
Speaker 2: time we were talking March, talking about a team and
Speaker 2: the potential path and that kind of stuff. I mean,
Speaker 2: I felt like I was a little kid. I mean
Speaker 2: a little one. Been in the second weekend in ten years, folks.
Speaker 2: So you know, last night I called him. He turned
Speaker 2: it off because you know, not like he was done
Speaker 2: with the team, but you know, like just trying to,
Speaker 2: you know, take a little break from it and maybe
Speaker 2: you come back in five minutes and see if the
Speaker 2: score is better, and sure enough, my partner in crime, Austin,
Speaker 2: we're texting and things are going poorly and he takes
Speaker 2: a walk, tells me he's gonna go walk.
Speaker 3: His dog had to do it.
Speaker 2: So the two that I'm reaching out to during the
Speaker 2: game because I'm panicking, you know, they were kind of
Speaker 2: you know, doing some reverse reverse mojo or something, right,
Speaker 2: like my dad was just gonna turn it away, you know,
Speaker 2: thinking maybe he's the problem. Austin, same thing, just going
Speaker 2: on a walk to you know, kind of you know.
Speaker 3: See if if he can.
Speaker 2: Ride some old mojo where the last time you went
Speaker 2: on a walk when things were bad, it was the
Speaker 2: miracle on Main we beat Marquette. That's right, That's what
Speaker 2: he tells me. So you know, well, I'm I'm a mess.
Speaker 2: I mean, I said this last night, Joe.
Speaker 3: Like I just left you on an island.
Speaker 2: Though at that point, well, I was by myself at
Speaker 2: home because my wife was out with the kids moose
Speaker 2: baseball practice, t ball practice, and he couldn't take it.
Speaker 3: So so I'm I mean, I'm at home.
Speaker 2: I'm a madman, and I'm thinking to myself, if you know,
Speaker 2: we can always find a silver lining. I found one
Speaker 2: here because I'm so glad my children are not at home,
Speaker 2: my young, innocent, sweet children, and they're not here to
Speaker 2: see their father behave like this during a basketball game.
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm I'm losing it.
Speaker 2: And then sure enough they start rolling, they make a
Speaker 2: big run, and then the dramatic ending where they let
Speaker 2: the eight point lead slip only to then get the
Speaker 2: buzzer beater from Chucky. It was just it was a
Speaker 2: reminder that it's just different this time of year. But anyways,
Speaker 2: I was I was talking to my dad earlier and
Speaker 2: he said something that you know, he's my dad, He's
Speaker 2: the guy who you know, I've listened to him talk
Speaker 2: more Louisville than I've listened to anybody in my life,
Speaker 2: because you know, before I, you know, became obsessed with
Speaker 2: it and you know, became an adult, I would just
Speaker 2: probably annoy the hell out of him asking them about
Speaker 2: teams that played in the eighties that I didn't get
Speaker 2: a chance to see. You know, all my knowledge of
Speaker 2: lois of basketball, especially the knowledge of the eras that
Speaker 2: I wasn't alive for, is all for him. So he
Speaker 2: said today, and I'm just gonna I don't even if
Speaker 2: it's true, but I'm I'm gonna believe in the power
Speaker 2: of positivity that last night, having that emotional roller coaster
Speaker 2: right like you're getting killed, it's not. I mean, you're
Speaker 2: you're in a way you haven't been really at all
Speaker 2: this year, especially since January started, And then you dig deep,
Speaker 2: you find some resilience, chucky kind of willing this team back,
Speaker 2: everybody playing the role, and then you know, you give
Speaker 2: up the lead only to then get the buzzer beater.
Speaker 2: So again, anything could happened to night. But I do
Speaker 2: think there's something to be said that those nerves, if
Speaker 2: you want to call it that, maybe you know, just
Speaker 2: being a little anxious because they're humans. They know this
Speaker 2: is March, this is the postseason, this is different, This
Speaker 2: isn't you know, this is different. But hopefully that I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know how they wouldn't have been able to
Speaker 2: get that out of the system after last night, because
Speaker 2: I mean last night, I mean it was imagine. I
Speaker 2: mean again, I can't imagine. You know, clearly it's different
Speaker 2: than being a fan and a player, but like they
Speaker 2: would probably even though they appreciate our support and clearly
Speaker 2: they have shown that throughout the year. I think these
Speaker 2: guys really appreciate level basketball, and I think they've really
Speaker 2: embraced being the group, being the team that has got
Speaker 2: us back on track. And they've surely seen us throughout
Speaker 2: the year getting more and more back into it, and
Speaker 2: you know, the revival is a real thing.
Speaker 3: So again, I know they appreciate us.
Speaker 2: But if they knew what this did to us, like
Speaker 2: they if they saw what kind of humans we become,
Speaker 2: how we behave And I don't mean like we're outbreaking
Speaker 2: the law, but like I'm a version of myself that
Speaker 2: I don't know whenever things are playing out like last
Speaker 2: night on both sides, the good and the bad. So
Speaker 2: we're crazy about it around here, and it's I think
Speaker 2: we've always known that, but man, last night was a
Speaker 2: real reminder what this stuff can do to you. All right,
Speaker 2: quick break, we'll come back. Keep this thing rolling along
Speaker 2: the bubble. Let's talk about it on the other side,
Speaker 2: because there are clearly an identified like five six teams
Speaker 2: that are fighting for the last spots and it's gonna
Speaker 2: them down to the committee and none of us know
Speaker 2: what they're going to do. But I do think there's
Speaker 2: a couple of teams that you can pinpoint two things
Speaker 2: on their resume that make it to where one team
Speaker 2: should be in the dance, whereas the others, I feel like,
Speaker 2: if you do put them in, we're going to know
Speaker 2: there's we're going to know the reason why. Right quick break,
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Speaker 2: So Texas is hanging with Tennessee, just a three point
Speaker 2: game with a minute and a half left in the
Speaker 2: first half. So Texas, look, they may play their way
Speaker 2: in because and they may already have because obviously their
Speaker 2: win against A and M was a valuable one and
Speaker 2: Tennessee would be a monster win for them. So you know,
Speaker 2: maybe they do get in. But when it comes to
Speaker 2: the resumes right now, for teams that are on the bubble,
Speaker 2: this is a real good example of how it really
Speaker 2: just comes down to the committee collectively deciding what they
Speaker 2: want to prioritize most because a lot of these teams
Speaker 2: on the bubble in the exact same spot. However, one's
Speaker 2: to one team's strength as far as what makes them
Speaker 2: worthy of consideration may be another bubble team's weakness and
Speaker 2: vice versa. Let me give you an example, Carolina and Texas.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking at Lenardi's bracketology that came out
Speaker 2: earlier today.
Speaker 3: He put it out at noon today. He has both.
Speaker 2: North Carolina and Texas as the last four in. In fact,
Speaker 2: Texas is the last team in right now, Carolina is
Speaker 2: the third to last team in with Xavier in between there.
Speaker 2: So right now, you know, if Leonardi was correct, who knows,
Speaker 2: maybe he's wrong, both would be in, but not, you know,
Speaker 2: not by much. Right like for example, maybe I can't
Speaker 2: think of anybody still playing that could you know, really
Speaker 2: improve their situation. But anyways, with Carolina and Texas, the
Speaker 2: net rankings very similar. Carolina is at thirty five, Texas
Speaker 2: is thirty eight. When you look at their overall record,
Speaker 2: Carolina has got more wins twenty two and twelve, nineteen
Speaker 2: and fourteen. If you look at the strength of schedule,
Speaker 2: Carolina's strength of schedule is forty ninth's that's overall strength
Speaker 2: of schedule. Texas is nineteenth. But let me let me
Speaker 2: I think this is an important thing to point out,
Speaker 2: and it really just depends on how you you know,
Speaker 2: you could take this whichever.
Speaker 3: Way you want.
Speaker 2: The non conference strength of schedule, Carolina's is fifth. Carolina
Speaker 2: played the fifth toughest non conference schedule in college basketball,
Speaker 2: which again is why they're in this position where they're
Speaker 2: even considered because they they didn't really lose. They have
Speaker 2: one loss that is you know, that is that is
Speaker 2: deemed not good. It's in the Q three range. Texas
Speaker 2: is non conference strength of schedule is two eighty five.
Speaker 2: So Texas does have good wins against Kentucky, Missouri, A
Speaker 2: and M twice.
Speaker 3: But I mean.
Speaker 2: Is that enough to bypass a team that is nineteen
Speaker 2: and fourteen and has you know, has a losing record
Speaker 2: in quad two games. So they're both the same. It
Speaker 2: just depends on what you want to emphasize, which you
Speaker 2: either want to punish somebody for or award them for.
Speaker 3: Carolina.
Speaker 2: I could make the case that, look, they're yeah, they're
Speaker 2: one and eleven in quad one games, but eleven quad
Speaker 2: one losses, I mean, that doesn't prove they're not good.
Speaker 2: They're also eight to zero and Quad two games. So
Speaker 2: you combine the Q one and Q two records, you've
Speaker 2: got Carolina that is nine and eleven. You look at
Speaker 2: Quad two in Quad one buying for Texas seven and fourteen.
Speaker 2: So again I would say momentum wise, Texas has probably
Speaker 2: got the benefit of the doubt because of their league.
Speaker 2: But to me, Texas wouldn't. The only argument to Protexas
Speaker 2: in is because of their conference. But look if they
Speaker 2: beat Tennessee even I mean, and by the way, the
Speaker 2: bubble is so bad, I'm sure.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that both these teams are in.
Speaker 2: Regardless of what happens moving forward, because you could put
Speaker 2: Boise State in. Boise State's got a net of forty three.
Speaker 2: They're twenty two and nine. Their strength to schedule is
Speaker 2: substantially low in both non conference and in overall strength
Speaker 2: to schedule. They're two and five in Quad one, five
Speaker 2: and two in Quad two, and they have one loss
Speaker 2: in Quad three range and one loss in Quad four. Like,
Speaker 2: if that's a team that's fighting for one of the
Speaker 2: last spots, then I'd say Carolina and Tech are probably
Speaker 2: in good shape because they're ahead of them. Xavior's a
Speaker 2: bubble team. Xavior strength to schedule fifty eight, overall one
Speaker 2: fifty five in non conference, they're two and nine in
Speaker 2: Quad one, seven and two in Quad two they're wins
Speaker 2: of note, Marquette, Yukon Creighton solid wins. But you know,
Speaker 2: I just think to me, that's a team that if
Speaker 2: you know, if they're left out, you get it, and
Speaker 2: if they get in, you would say, well, okay, the
Speaker 2: bubble must be pretty weak. That's and that's technically what
Speaker 2: we're looking at. So Indiana, I mean, as of right now,
Speaker 2: Lenardi has them as and again who knows, maybe Leonardi's wrong,
Speaker 2: but that's all we can really reference because of course,
Speaker 2: you know, well I guess there's other bracketology out there
Speaker 2: that you can reference, but you know, it all comes
Speaker 2: down to the committee as far as how they want
Speaker 2: to you know, how they want to choose to do it.
Speaker 2: But I think both, you know, the two most talked
Speaker 2: about bubble teams I think have been Texas and Carolina
Speaker 2: in the last few days, and I'd say right now
Speaker 2: both would probably be in because I just don't think
Speaker 2: you would put teams like Boise, Colorado State, Indiana, Ohio
Speaker 2: State ahead of them. So again, back to the quad
Speaker 2: systems real quick here. This is not not to nerd
Speaker 2: out too much, but if there's ever a time to do.
Speaker 2: It would be when we're just a couple of days
Speaker 2: away from selection Sunday.
Speaker 3: I talked about this a little bit earlier, but you.
Speaker 2: Know, your Quad one losses and your quad one wins,
Speaker 2: even though you know there's a wide range and they
Speaker 2: technically still fall in one of four categories, right Quad
Speaker 2: one through Quad four, you know, the committee's going to
Speaker 2: realize that they're not all They should realize that they're
Speaker 2: not all created equally. So again, for Louisville, you would
Speaker 2: absolutely hope that every loss you have can get to
Speaker 2: quad one and every win you have, or you know,
Speaker 2: the decent wins you have can fall into quad one
Speaker 2: as well. But right now West Virginia, of course, one
Speaker 2: of Louisville's best wins, it is currently a quad one
Speaker 2: victory victory as of right now, as of this moment, okay,
Speaker 2: because they're sitting at fifty if they fall one one spot,
Speaker 2: which they were fifty one yesterday, so it was a
Speaker 2: quad two win, so you added a quad one win overnight. Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: they've maintained top forty or top fifty is they're at
Speaker 2: forty four, So that's a loss obviously, but it doesn't
Speaker 2: fall on the quad two as like a bad loss,
Speaker 2: but again despite their not being a big difference from
Speaker 2: forty three to fifty one, whatever it may be.
Speaker 3: You know, you want your numbers to.
Speaker 2: Reflect that your losses are as good as possible and
Speaker 2: your wins, you know, have as much value as possible.
Speaker 3: But again I just.
Speaker 2: Think to worry about if the committee probably won't you
Speaker 2: Louisville a whole lot differently, or make a big change
Speaker 2: to their seed based off of you know, this team
Speaker 2: meeting West Virginia finishing either forty seven or fifty one,
Speaker 2: and then for Indiana, you know that's that's a win
Speaker 2: that that after yesterday is certainly not going to fall
Speaker 2: in the quad one range, which I mean, you can't
Speaker 2: control it, but it's just a bummer, you know. I
Speaker 2: when it comes to Louisville's losses and wins, that you
Speaker 2: needed to by the way, you want everybody you play
Speaker 2: to do well because that's the best case scenario, right
Speaker 2: If you beat them looks like a better win. If
Speaker 2: they beat you, you're not judged as harshly. But the
Speaker 2: non conference teams for Louisville didn't do them a whole
Speaker 2: lot of favors. I mean, really Oklahoma. I mean that
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's barely Oklahoma, I think is very lucky to get
Speaker 2: in the tournament. Indiana fell apart, they won't make the tournament.
Speaker 2: It looks like West Virginia is gonna make it, but
Speaker 2: I thought that win would have a little more value
Speaker 2: down the line. So anyways, at this point, I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm not ready for it to end, because obviously You've
Speaker 2: got a game night against Clemson, and we'll see if
Speaker 2: they can win the night. Louisville and Duke tomorrow, I
Speaker 2: would imagine, although maybe it's not Louislle Duke, maybe it's
Speaker 2: maybe it's Louisville and in Carolina if Louisville wins, because
Speaker 2: Carolina is playing better. And you know, despite not you know,
Speaker 2: not going up against top ten teams, you know, I
Speaker 2: do believe they are. You know, they're probably not anywhere
Speaker 2: close to what they should be as far as when
Speaker 2: you look at their personnel and what their expectations were
Speaker 2: this year. But I wouldn't be shocked if they could
Speaker 2: find I mean, easier said than done. But if you
Speaker 2: know Cooper Flag, by the way, he has been ruled
Speaker 2: out tonight, he's not going to play, so a Cooper
Speaker 2: flagless Duke team against a Carolina team that's really hot.
Speaker 3: Of course, the Carolina wins, all.
Speaker 2: That will be said is that they shouldn't get as
Speaker 2: much credit because they did it without flag. But again,
Speaker 2: that won't matter to the I mean that won't matter
Speaker 2: when it comes to the I mean that I think
Speaker 2: Carolina is in regardless. But if they win the night,
Speaker 2: even if they compete closely, that's probably going to help them.
Speaker 2: Even though Cooper Flag's not going to play. And you know,
Speaker 2: there's a part of me that can't decide, like do
Speaker 2: I want Duke even though Flag's probably not going to play,
Speaker 2: because again, even without flag, that's still a monster potential
Speaker 2: win if you could get it, although unlikely, it would
Speaker 2: be huge if you could get it, and the opportunity
Speaker 2: would be one that you should you should value. But
Speaker 2: with Carolina, clearly they're a little I think they're more
Speaker 2: beatable and if you eat them, I mean, hell, you
Speaker 2: do get another valuable win. It's not a huge resume win,
Speaker 2: but that would be a decent neutral site win against Carolina,
Speaker 2: another quad one for sure, and also you win the
Speaker 2: ACC which is crazy, right, So if you play duke
Speaker 2: and Duke get you, but you compete and you fall
Speaker 2: shore but still climb up the rankings. I don't know, Like,
Speaker 2: if I've got a chance in any way for Louisville
Speaker 2: to freaking win the AEC Championship, I'm gonna take that.
Speaker 2: But I do think there could still be some real
Speaker 2: value if that doesn't play out, because first and foremost,
Speaker 2: you got to get past tonight. But once you do that,
Speaker 2: you know, if it's Carolina, a loss of them wouldn't
Speaker 2: be ideal, but it also wouldn't be something that probably
Speaker 2: really hurts you on the seed line. But if you
Speaker 2: play Duke, I mean, and you know, God God willing
Speaker 2: you beat them, they'd be an insane thing to process.
Speaker 2: But also even playing them close could help you when
Speaker 2: it comes to just the numbers. And also I believe
Speaker 2: there's real value in playing a team that good before
Speaker 2: you get to.
Speaker 3: The big dance.
Speaker 2: And I know they're not going to be that good
Speaker 2: without f I mean, they're still gonna be good, trust me,
Speaker 2: But I mean, the best player on the planet according
Speaker 2: to a lot of people, won't be playing.
Speaker 3: But still Duke has a lot of talent.
Speaker 2: Konkinipple, I wouldn't be shocked if he goes all for
Speaker 2: thirty tonight, I quick break will come back on the
Speaker 2: other side.
Speaker 3: Keep this thing rolling along.
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Speaker 2: us and ass kicking almost over here as Wisconsin is
Speaker 2: up eighty six to sixty seven with just twenty seconds left.
Speaker 2: As coming to an end in the Big Ten tournament
Speaker 2: for Mick cronin po teams here of course, clearly in
Speaker 2: the Big Dance, Tennessee three point lead over Texas at halftime.
Speaker 2: Clearly that would be a monstrous win for Texas. I
Speaker 2: would imagine they're probably on the right side of the
Speaker 2: bubble as of now, but a win there can have
Speaker 2: them resting a little bit easier before selection Sunday.
Speaker 3: And then those are the only games going on currently.
Speaker 2: A lot of games this evening, and I mean a
Speaker 2: lot of them looking forward to making some bets, that's
Speaker 2: for sure, but games that have already concluded, You've got
Speaker 2: Oregon losing to Michigan State izzoh, they move on to
Speaker 2: the semi finals of the Big Ten Tournament. Auburn competitive game,
Speaker 2: low scoring. I mean, it was played where Chris Beard
Speaker 2: wanted it to be played, low scoring, just beach up
Speaker 2: in the half court. But Auburn held on sixty two
Speaker 2: to fifty seven. And then Memphis does hold on to
Speaker 2: be wich TOAs State. They talked about this earlier, but
Speaker 2: that game is not one that really anybody would care
Speaker 2: about it unless you're a Memphis fan or a Wichita
Speaker 2: State fan. But Memphis winning. Memphis to me is the
Speaker 2: only league left. Memphis is the only team left in
Speaker 2: a league where if they don't win it, there's gonna
Speaker 2: be a bitstealer because North Texas is the second place
Speaker 2: team in that conference, but they're not. I mean, they'd
Speaker 2: have to win the tournament to get in. So a
Speaker 2: bubble team that's in now will not be in if
Speaker 2: Memphis does not win the American Athletic Conference tournament, which
Speaker 2: they probably will, they are easily the best team in
Speaker 2: that league and it's not even close. And then elsewhere,
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at other conference tournaments that haven't
Speaker 2: concluded just yet. The championship game of the MAC tonight.
Speaker 2: Clearly that's a one bid league. Same thing for the
Speaker 2: A ten, and I mean teams left alive Marquette, Saint
Speaker 2: John's both tournament teams, Maryland Illinois, I mean even yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean there's really not there's not a conference where
Speaker 2: you can you could have a bid stealer. I don't
Speaker 2: think because in the A ten, I mean, the best
Speaker 2: team in the A ten this year's VCU and are
Speaker 2: they still alive? Yeah, they play. They play tomorrow against
Speaker 2: Loyola Chicago. I guess they're they're tournaments a little bit later,
Speaker 2: but anyways, Yeah, BCU losing their conference tournament would also
Speaker 2: be a potential bid stealing situation because teams like George
Speaker 2: Mason and Dayton UH clearly in a better spot than
Speaker 2: these other teams I'd mentioned, but they're not.
Speaker 3: They're not getting in.
Speaker 2: If they don't, they don't win their conference unless I'm
Speaker 2: just not paying attention, like to me, Dayton, I mean,
Speaker 2: Dayton is well, let's see Dayton's twenty two and nine,
Speaker 2: So maybe they're better than I realized, but I'm not
Speaker 2: seeing them on any Let's see. Yeah, Dayton currently sitting
Speaker 2: with a Yeah, I mean they're they've got let's see Dayton. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's no I mean, I gat I'm not searching the
Speaker 2: whole bracket, but I think the two leagues that you
Speaker 2: have to worry about a bidstealer. If the favorites don't win,
Speaker 2: it's just the American and the A ten all. Let's
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