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Speaker 7: It's Nicole Atkins on the Rock and Roll History Show.

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Speaker 8: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Rock and Roll History

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Show on Hudson River Radio. I'm Brian Horowitz. We did

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first two weeks ago, if I remember correctly, we had

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a week off, so you can probably guess what's coming

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tonight because we are that predictable. So before we hop

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into last, allow me to introduce all the Cranwells joining

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us here tonight from the Richter Observatory. He recently visited

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the world smallest windmill. Not a big fan, Neil.

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Speaker 5: Oh, Come on, I'm a big fan of little fans.

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I have very little fans, So you know how you doing?

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Speaker 8: Everybody, and from paranormally yours. Every time she goes to work,

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she hides in the closet because good employees are hard

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to find.

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Speaker 9: I should try that.

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Speaker 8: Go for it and report back please. From the silver screen,

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she saw a neutron walk into a bar and ask

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how much for a drink and the bartender says for you,

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no charge, Mercedes.

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Speaker 4: Can Well, you are on tonight right you need it?

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That week off I did.

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Speaker 8: Oh my god. I'll tell you all about napping after

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this and how it works. Two more to go, our

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officially retired teacher. He says the secret to avoid crying

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while chopping an onion is to not get emotionally attached.

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John Kelly is here, very good Brian, and last but

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not least, the host of shaving Cream. She figured out

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that a superhero with a bad sense of direction is

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known as wander woman.

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Speaker 1: Barbara, that's fantastic. Yeah, I love it. Thank you.

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Speaker 8: Everybody's here tonight. So yeah, last week I had the

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U the uh uh, what's the word? I'm looking for?

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Privileged enjoyment. I got to go to Alabama. I was

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down in Alabama because we have our place down there

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that we're finally getting work done on.

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Speaker 9: Did you have your on your knee?

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Speaker 10: Uh?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 8: I had a guitar bass and an upright bass. Though

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all together, all together, they all fail because I knew,

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you know, I was expected to play them when I

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got back, So you gotta kind of stay on top

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of everything. But it was a lot of fun. Got

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to meet more of the neighbors and all that kind

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of stuff. But it was it was a long trip.

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Speaker 4: But it was more fitting right and down there, aren't you?

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Speaker 8: Oh I am, oh my my. I got to meet

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more neighbors and they all took me to, uh, we're

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right near the Mississippi border, so they took me right

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over the border to the Robin Hood Brewery in Ayuka, Mississippi,

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if anybody's down there, which was an absolute blast. And

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as soon as word got out this guy's from New York,

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they're like New York, oh my god. And they are

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deathly afraid of New York City. Like New York City

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people would be deathly afraid of going to Alabama, which

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I find to be the most entertaining thing because people,

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people are people where you go. Yeah, wow, it was

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so it was a lot of fun though, And you know,

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they said, hey, you want to hop in with us,

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and I'm like, yeah, absolutely, I hop in. And when

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they say hop in with us. It was the entire

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neighborhood in one suv, all going to wow. Yeah, So

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was a lot of fun. But it's good to be

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back and we're back on track, and we're talking last

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tonight because you did first couple of weeks ago. Why

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don't we just hop right in and Neil, you're going

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Speaker 5: Us off, all right? Yeah, as you said, we did

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first the Alpha, so now it's time for the last

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the Omega. See what I did there, And the song

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I've picked is called Last Time Around by a band

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called the del Vets. Now. The Delvettes were an American

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garage rock band formed in Chicago in nineteen sixty three.

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of the sixties. They started out performing Chuck Berry covers

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and surf rock standards, and they soon developed a rather

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large following, apparently while performing regularly at popular teen dance

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clubs in the Chicago area. That's when they actually had

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clubs for teens and they actually went and danced. What

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a novel concept. In nineteen sixty five, an early version

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of the group worked with record producer Bill Trott and

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recorded a cover version of the Righteous Brothers hit Little

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Latin Loopy Lou on a small local label. The record

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failed to garner any commercial success, but Trot still felt

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the band had some potential, so after the obligatory initial

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personnel changes, a solidified lineup emerged, consisting of Jim Lauer

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on lead guitar and vocals, Bob Good on rhythm guitar,

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Jack Burchell on bass, and Roger Detheridge on drums. Trot

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signed the Delvettes to a record contract with Dunwich Records

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in nineteen sixty six, and they recorded their best known

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and most commercially successful single, the one We're about to

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hear Last Time Around, and the song, in my opinion,

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it's a garage rock masterpiece, with Jim Lauer's fudge fuzz

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drenched guitar as the highlight. The single climbed the regional

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charts and became the most requested song on several Chicago

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radio stations. So why don't we take a little time

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out and give a listen to Last Time Around? Right

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now by the gildas well.

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Speaker 6: I'm sitting down as a spinning around round. I can't

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see shapeless fear. Oh my body is a rocket. Oh

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it's such a fun. This is the last am around.

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Speaker 12: Oh, I'm singing of sak down.

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Speaker 4: I came round but.

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Speaker 5: Yet jaws.

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Speaker 6: I know this is the last around.

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calling as gay able to go.

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Speaker 11: I'm going down at a God, I'm gonna say something now, Oh.

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Speaker 6: Yeah no, well sinking down. I can't hear a sound, why.

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Speaker 10: Goes? I know this is the last time round, well

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stagy and song yo.

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Speaker 6: Lands can't be the book down the book.

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Speaker 10: I know this is the last hour around.

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Speaker 12: Oh yeah, last out now, yeah, no, the last hours,

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the last hour round.

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Speaker 5: Now, let's say this is around nineteen sixty five sixty six.

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This is when crazy the Beatles were still you know,

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the lovable mop Tops. He had you know, Peter Noon

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and Herman's Hermit singing all this lake pop song. This

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is crazy stuff for that, for that.

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Speaker 8: Way ahead of its time. There's like early heavy metal

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licks in there, and this is.

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Speaker 1: Totally next level.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it just went on my playlist.

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Speaker 5: Well. The Delvettes released a follow up single later that year,

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but it did not achieve the same success as last

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time around. So in nineteen sixty seven, the group changed

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its name to The Pride and Joy and they released

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two more singles. The first song was a regional hit,

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but the second one didn't even chart failed to chart,

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so at that point, Jack Burchell left the group. The

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Pride and Joy broke up in nineteen sixty eight, and

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the Delvettes were left to languish in obscurity.

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Speaker 11: That is.

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Speaker 5: Until several of their songs were included on several garage

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rock compilation albums that came out in the late nineteen nineties,

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so the world finally caught up to them. Now, that

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wasn't the last time we hear from Jack Burchell either,

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because in nineteen eighty three he hit the charts again

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with Jump in the Saddle, a band I featured here

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just recently on The Rock and Roll History Show, and

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their novelty song The Curly Shuffle. Quite a distance between

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those two.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But and finally, and sadly, lead guitarist and singer Jim

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Lower reportedly ended up in a mental institution and that's

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where he spent the I guess the rest of his days.

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So I guess it really was the last time around.

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For him, but he left us with this garage rock classic.

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Speaker 1: Awesome legacy.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I love it, very cool.

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Speaker 4: I don't really love pride and joy. That's not very punk. No,

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you no like who picked that name.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like something a new mom would pick.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I have no idea what they even sounded like,

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but something tells me they thought, maybe we ought to

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walk this back. Maybe you're a little bit uh too

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crazy for what's going on. Not in my book, of course, yeah,

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but yeah, the pride and enjoy that, you know, should

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be like, you know, you sound like you know the

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teacups or something like that. You know, yeah, something, you

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know that something, something you can bring home and you know,

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meet mom and dad, you know. Yeah, anyway, that's what

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I really like that.

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Speaker 2: All right, Thanks Neil John, You're up all right. I

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don't know if I can top Neil's selection, but I

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very rarely can. Obviously, Neil, you are the master in

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this field, I should.

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Speaker 5: Say, the connoisseur of the obscure.

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Speaker 4: Are you're gonna say of the absurd?

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Speaker 5: That kind of goes hand in hand.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So what I did tonight though, is I selected something

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from James Brown and in nineteen sixty four, which was

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not the end of his career. Obviously, it was more

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towards the beginning or middle, you might want to say,

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but it certainly wasn't the last. However, the song I

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did was Maybe the Last Time by James Brown and

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the Famous Flames. It's a gospel induced R and B

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song talking about appreciating life, friendship and love as any

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moment could be the last, and that is where this

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all kind of comes together. So, Brian, why don't we

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just play the song and then we'll talk a little

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bit about maybe.

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Speaker 5: And maybe.

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Speaker 10: Maybe the last time when she gave maybe the last

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time the man play, Oh why, oh, I don't know,

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Maybe the last time I got a heart of stone.

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Speaker 8: To believe me. I don't want to be alone?

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Speaker 5: Oh why, oh? I don't know.

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Speaker 13: When you're all alone, you want to cock on the telephone,

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you want to get your heart alone.

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Speaker 10: And just about the time to get talking about.

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Speaker 13: I'm ready first single when You're blue bree.

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Speaker 10: Oh oh, I don't know it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the last time, God, last time it, Maybe the

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last time I got a scream, Maybe the last time,

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maybe the last time?

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Speaker 10: Last? Oh, oh, why, I don't know? I'm all alone.

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Speaker 8: I ain't got nobody to come home.

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Speaker 10: Come.

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Speaker 11: I don't know.

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Speaker 14: It might be the last time.

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Speaker 13: Look around your man home again, check with your bad friend.

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Speaker 14: You might never never, never see them again.

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Speaker 6: I'm with somebody.

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Speaker 10: Last time.

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Speaker 6: I would like to tell you some more.

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Speaker 3: S.

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Speaker 11: I gotta go.

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Speaker 2: Hey the last Time by James Brown and the Famous Flames.

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the last time he recorded with the original Famous Flames,

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And there was some comments made during the song about

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on how you can really see James Brown when you

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when you Isn't this right, Barbara's that's what you said.

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You could really see him.

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Speaker 1: You can visualize him performing when you listen to his music.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And one of the things I always like

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to say about James Brown is if I ever tried

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to get some of those notes that he got, you'd

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have to call an ambulance.

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Speaker 8: I got There's I have a trailer. Hitch my pickup truck. Yeah,

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forget it's there, walk into it with your knee first. Okay,

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not a problem, not a problem.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thanks to you, know, Brian, I think I'll probably

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try to avoid that, but thank you.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Well, you're ready.

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Speaker 5: James Brown was you know, he was really a badass.

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He was like, you know, if if you get a chance.

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or so. It's called Get On Up. It's like, you know,

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a bio pic and it's I think it was. It

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was great, and yeah it shows him. You know, he

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wasn't a goodie two shoes, let's leave it.

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Speaker 8: And he also had the ability to function as a

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band leader while he was performing. He could hear all

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the parts that everybody was playing. And he was known

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to be very very strict, like your your suit that

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you were given was your uniform and it better be impeccable.

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Shoes shined all that, and if you hit a wrong note,

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he would turn around every once in a while. You

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can see in the video he'll hold up. He'll look

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at a saxophone player, hold up two fingers. That's a

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two hundred dollars fine because you've missed a note. Oh my,

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and he heard it. So yeah, so you can understand

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why he burned through a couple of different bands after

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a while.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, like Drill Sergeant.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, but we lost the The late

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great James Brown on Christmas Day or Christmas Morning in

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two thousand and six. It will be twenty years this year.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And it was allegedly I don't know if this is

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true or not, so I can't vouch for it, but

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he allegedly said his last words were, I'm going away tonight.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 8: I think it just got buried. Like two weeks ago

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after the state settlement, there was like a huge thing

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with his oh yeah, everybody money grab it and stuff.

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Speaker 2: I think it was manager or somebody, but I just

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thought that was very poignant that maybe the last time,

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it was the last time we recorded with that group

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talking about finalities in life, and uh, just what an

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interesting piece of music. It had that beautiful gospel soul

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kind of feel to it, so it makes you want

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to just kind of kick back and almost kind of

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sing along, but silently to yourself, because, as I said,

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there's no way I get those notes.

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Speaker 8: I hope you all enjoyed it. That was a good one.

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and we've got a lot more coming up, so stick around.

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We'll be right back. Hudson River Radio. Your dog Likes Us.

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Speaker 4: This concludes the first part of this cassette. Please turn

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Speaker 1: This is Hudson River Radio dot Com.

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Speaker 8: Ay, and welcome back to our Picks of Lasts and

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we're up to Barbara. So, Barbara, what do you have

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for us?

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Speaker 1: Okay? My song choice is called last Night and it's

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by the Traveling Wilbury's. And They were a British American

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supergroup formed in Los Angeles in nineteen eighty eight, consisting

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of members Jefflin, Bob Dylan, George Travison, Roy Orbison, and

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Tom Petty. The idea for the band originated during the

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recording of Harrison's nineteen eighty seven album Cloud nine, which

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I was first online in the store to buy the

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day it was released, Nice, which Jefflin co produced. Harrison

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pitched the idea of starting a band to Lynn and

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they began discussing who else should be in the band

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with them.

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Speaker 8: Who do we want on our team?

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Speaker 1: Harrison chose Bob Dylan, and Lynn picked Roy Orbison, who

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happened to be one of his idols. Idols have idols.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they were working on an album, weren't they.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Both Harrison and Lynn had befriended Tom Petty in nineteen

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eighty seven, while he and the Heartbreakers were touring in

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Europe as Bob Dylan's backing group for the Temples and

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Flames tour, and Lynn also collaborated with Petty on Petty's

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debut album, Full Moon Fever, and also began writing songs

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with Roy Orbison. Harrison had originally meant for the Wilbury's

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first collaboration together to be a bonus track for his

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next European single, and the result was the song Handled

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with Care, which they decided was too good for such

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a limited release and agreed to record a full album,

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and thus the Traveling There He's Volume one was born.

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Now does it take a supergroup to say, hey, our

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stuff is too good for that, let's do this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think a band just starting out would have

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the clout to say something like that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, right, you have George Harrison going, oh, who should

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be in my supergroup? Yeah? Who's gonna say no? Nowadays

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he would have put out a tweet and oh my god, he.

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Speaker 5: Was kind of he was kind of in a supergroup

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before that. Yeah, I'm just saying, oh, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna have to google that later all right. So the

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album was released October nineteen eighty eight, and the song

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last Night is the fourth track from that album. So

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why don't we pause here and give it a listen.

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Speaker 6: She was there at the bait.

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Speaker 4: She was long talk.

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Speaker 5: She was the queen of them all.

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Speaker 10: Last night.

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Speaker 11: Thinking about last night last night, thinking about last night.

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Speaker 6: She was dark and discreet, she was light on her feet.

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Speaker 5: We went up to room and she lowed the boot.

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Speaker 11: Last night, thinking about last night last night, thinking about

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last night.

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Speaker 8: Stow me alone.

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Speaker 4: They danced and sang in the.

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Speaker 8: Street, all of the ball, the ball with me.

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Speaker 10: Last night.

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Speaker 11: They give out last night, the last night they gave

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out last night.

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Speaker 6: About speaking the thing.

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Speaker 4: Good in my brain. I looked at the right. They

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were full of surprise.

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Speaker 11: Last night, talking about last night last night, talking about

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last night.

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Speaker 6: Out nightgic.

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Speaker 4: She said, your money or your.

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Speaker 1: Life last night.

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Speaker 11: You're talking about last night last night, talking about last night.

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Speaker 6: Down back in the bar.

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Speaker 5: She went a little too far.

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Speaker 2: She don't be wrong.

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Speaker 4: All I got is a song.

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Speaker 11: Last night, taking by last night, last night, Taking by

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last Night.

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Speaker 1: I love the storytelling in that song. That's something where

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you can go. Well, that took a turn and I

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just love how you can pick out all the individual

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vocals and like who is singing? Well, it's it's it's

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so obvious, and it just meshes together so well. And

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this band can do no wrong in my book. The

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only wrong they could do is not record it anymore

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because we don't have most of them I know. So

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during the recording session, whenever faulty equipment was to blame

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for courting errors, Harrison would say to Lynn will Bury

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him in the mix, and this is how they came

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up with the name Willbury.

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Speaker 5: I love that.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, Yeah, it was great.

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Speaker 1: It was fun writing this one up because it was

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a band that I idolized and I got to find

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out all the stuff about them that I didn't know already,

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So this was great. So the band members also adopted

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pseudonyms as half brothers from the aforementioned family of traveling musicians,

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with Harrison as Nelson Willbury, Lynn as Otis, Dylan as Lucky,

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Orbison as Lefty, and Petty as Charlie t Junior. Neil

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Caerda comment. Maybe on any other famous bands that come

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to mind who adopted pseudonyms, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't really know. I'm not coming up with anything, Really,

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who would who would do that? Who would who would

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just come up with the last name?

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, oh wait, I'm good, I'm gonna count and

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at the count of one, two, three, four, you better

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come up with a name.

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Speaker 5: That's a good way to put it. Of course, the Ramones,

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of course, they are.

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Speaker 1: Totally thought of you when I was writing this part up,

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totally so anyway, according to Petty, the criteria. He said

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this in an interview later on, the criteria for who

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could be in the band was simply someone you could

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hang out with.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's fair, Yeah, why not? Right?

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Speaker 1: And the least thing I wanted to say that I

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totally ogled over this fact. The members also bonded over

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the fact that they were all fans of the English

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comedy Trupe Monty Python. Oh my gosh, and I wish

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we had this on tape, and Harrison especially appreciated Orbit's

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gift for reciting entire Python sketches.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Oh I could have a recite off with him. Totally

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want to do that. Yeah, right, me too, right, Yeah,

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I was, I was like so so happy right in

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this one up, This this.

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Speaker 4: One like made my week.

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Speaker 8: I didn't know that about Roy Orbison. That's cool.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he would be the last. He would be the last. Yeah, yeah,

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that's that's that's wild.

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Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, he just he looks so buttoned down when

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you see him, but he wasn't and he did not

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take care of himself. He was one of those guys

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that loved being on the road, toured incessantly, but ate

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all the garbage food that comes with being on tour,

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and wasn't you know, didn't take care of himself as

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a heavy smoker all that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when I heard how he died and how young

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he was, I was like, damn him.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, about fifty three, I think if I remember somewhere

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around there. Which, yeah, that's kind of scary because I'm

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not that far behind.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not that far ahead.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, right, Brian, you're in good shape. You don't

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have to worry about any of.

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Speaker 11: Those I think.

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Speaker 8: I'm okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Brian is the poster boy for clean living.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 8: All right, we'll go with that, and that's.

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Speaker 1: All I have for y'all.

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Speaker 8: All right, thank you, Barbara Mercedes, your turn.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So first, here are all my disclaimers. This is

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not my genre. I have no idea where I first

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heard this. I'm not sure why I listened to the words,

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but I did, and I do love a song with

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a twist. Also, I know nothing about Carrie Underwood.

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Speaker 5: Yes, wait a minute, what have you done with Mercedes?

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Speaker 8: Did you?

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Speaker 5: Here's the real one? Where are you hidden her?

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Speaker 1: I just rem remember that when she was on American Idol,

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I did not vote for her. I don't like that

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type of music.

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Speaker 4: So I thought I knew nothing about Carrie Underwood. But

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that's not totally true, because I did also get rooked

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into watching season four of American Idol, don't ask, which

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she won, and that was in two thousand and five.

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Simon Call said he had predicted her to not only

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win the season, but outsell the record of all the

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other contestants. Also, also he said she had the likability

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factor but was a bit old fashion, which is why

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everyone liked her. Punched him in the face. Who is

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Carrie Underwood? She was born in nineteen eighty three in

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a small town in Oklahoma. In high school, she was

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a cheerleader, member of the honor society, as well as

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playing basketball and softball. She went to college in Oklahoma

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and in the summer's watress at a pizza place, worked

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as a page as well as at a zoo and

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a that clinic. She also competed many beauty pageants, so

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basically a good all around country girl. Auditioned for American

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Idol in two thousand and four, and as they say,

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the rest was history. This song was released in two

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thousand and eight. Written by Underwood, Hillary Lindsey, and Luke Laird,

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this was Underwood's fourth consecutive number one on the Hot

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Country Songs on the chart. This made her the first

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solo female artist to have four chart toppers in a

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row on the Country Service since Roseanne Cash. Rosanna Cash.

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It's Rosanna, right, yeah, Roseanne? Yeah, Roseanne? Okay, this song

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00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:48,440
she we used to book her at the William Morris

475
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,599
Agency and I remembered her as Rosanna for some reason.

476
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,119
Speaker 8: Because the song you're getting them confused.

477
00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 11: Yeah.

478
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,559
Speaker 4: So the song one. Underwood her third consecutive Grammy Award

479
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,920
for Best Female Country Vocal Performance. It has sold one

480
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,880
point three million copies. That was as of twenty fifteen.

481
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,240
So the name of the song is last name and

482
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:18,960
if you listen to the words, you'll catch the twist.

483
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:27,880
So let's hear it last night I got served a

484
00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:31,440
little birds much that puzzon baby.

485
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 7: Last time I did things I'm not proud of, and

486
00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:39,200
I got a little crazy. Last time I made a

487
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:42,799
guy on the dance boot and I let him call

488
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,680
me baby.

489
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:54,839
Speaker 10: That time I know his last My mom ab.

490
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 14: Shave start it all mag you.

491
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:02,799
Speaker 10: Where you're from? And then it turned in the horn

492
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,960
on what have I done enough? Showing him know his

493
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:10,599
last name? Whoa?

494
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 7: He left the cup about about three o'clock in the morning,

495
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:23,839
his pen to sitting there in the pocket line with

496
00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:24,759
a should.

497
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 10: Have been a morning.

498
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:29,839
Speaker 4: I half no clue when I was getting into so

499
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:31,519
I be in on the quiver.

500
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 9: Where is my minute? Stroll?

501
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:44,799
Speaker 10: And now time his last same? My mom w.

502
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:52,119
Speaker 12: Shade started off, heay, cuney, where you're from?

503
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,559
Speaker 10: And then it turned in the hon on what have.

504
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,279
Speaker 4: I done that?

505
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 6: Alf shine.

506
00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 10: His last name? And here we go today woke up,

507
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:19,320
I think.

508
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 4: About there's somewhere in Vegas.

509
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,559
Speaker 7: I'm not sure how I got here or how that's

510
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,280
ring on my left hand just appears a hot of nowhere.

511
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 4: I gotta go a take the chips.

512
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,199
Speaker 14: I had the pints do and had the rough and

513
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:34,679
stay with.

514
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: Heaven see her says, he m this, there's just one

515
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,639
little problem.

516
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 10: I don't I know my oh my, mom my want

517
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,639
shade it starting out, Hey, juny where I can from?

518
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,519
And that a turn?

519
00:34:57,679 --> 00:34:59,559
Speaker 4: And I don't know what a I got?

520
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:08,039
Speaker 10: Ma, I'm showing my mama. What am I? What have

521
00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:12,320
I done? What have I done? Only? What am I going?

522
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:22,280
I don't even know where A turn in the hold?

523
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:46,480
Now where I go? I'm showing my last God, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

524
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:57,119
yeah yeah. Sta'll pay you where you're from? Man a

525
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,559
turn and a hol no what I god.

526
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 4: So the lyrics tell the story of the gala with

527
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,480
her friends. When she meets a guy she doesn't catch

528
00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:16,639
his last name. She's had a bit to drink queer

529
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,480
voa to be specific, and they end up spending the

530
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:22,920
evening together gambling and stuff. When she wakes up, she

531
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:26,840
has memories of an elvis and a ring. And the

532
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,760
twist is when she says, and I don't even know

533
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:39,440
my last name. Oh snap, yeah, So that was the

534
00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:43,880
hook for me. I just think it's clever how she

535
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:47,239
went from she didn't know his last name to I

536
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,039
don't even know my last name and.

537
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 8: It's the same name.

538
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 4: The same thing what do you mean? What do you

539
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,920
mean it's the same thing.

540
00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 8: Because they got Yes, they got married, and she woke

541
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,320
up and married this guy who's last.

542
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 5: Night she married this guy, Yes, because it's her last name.

543
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 8: Now you pick a song. Why am I explaining that.

544
00:37:14,039 --> 00:37:16,159
Speaker 4: I understand what you're saying. Now, Yes, it is the

545
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:16,880
same thing, but.

546
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 5: I've forgotten my name after a few queer vows. But

547
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:22,039
you know that's yeah.

548
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:24,119
Speaker 8: But if you wake up next to an Elvis, then

549
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:26,320
we have a whole different thing to talk about.

550
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 5: Well it was it Elvis or was one of those

551
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,880
the Elvis chapel that you're talking.

552
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 4: About, Elvis Impersonator Chapel?

553
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:36,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, in Las Vegas there is a yeah yeah,

554
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:41,119
oh yeah, I've been by it. I didn't get married there,

555
00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:43,119
and you know it would be fun maybe, but no,

556
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:45,239
but I do have to go look at it. Yeah,

557
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:46,039
it's there.

558
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 4: I just I feel for her when she wakes up.

559
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,920
I mean, I think that must be a terrifying feeling,

560
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,440
like what the hell did I just do? And yes,

561
00:37:56,519 --> 00:37:59,239
it's a little bit like Katy Perry's Waking Up in Vegas,

562
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,480
which was really listen in two thousand and nine. So

563
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,679
that came after this. Did you know that that song

564
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,599
is supposed to be about a girl and her gay

565
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:10,840
best friend? Because I never caught that.

566
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:15,559
Speaker 8: In the Katy Perrys say, I paid that close attention

567
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:17,159
and try to figure it out.

568
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever heard it, so I don't

569
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,760
think i've heard it either.

570
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 5: I've never heard that one. I've never heard the Carrie

571
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,440
Underwood song before either. But now I'm I can't.

572
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:33,119
Speaker 4: I can't make that claim now, sorry? Is that your

573
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,719
claim to fame Neil, that you'd never heard.

574
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:38,079
Speaker 5: This song because I blew it for you, well one

575
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:40,639
of them? Now, yeah, I can scratch out check that

576
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:41,320
off the list.

577
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,639
Speaker 1: You ruined Neil's Carrie virginity.

578
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 5: I know.

579
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 4: I think I've done that a couple of times in

580
00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:47,559
this show.

581
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:53,599
Speaker 8: When Herry expand horizons, it's okay. So I don't have

582
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,519
to like everything, but it's good to.

583
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 4: Hear what we're here for. Yeah. So Carrie Underwood confess

584
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,440
to USA Today in two thousand and seven that this

585
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:04,880
is where the song came from. She says, I met

586
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,119
a guy at at an after party, and I asked

587
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:09,599
him his name three times, but it never stuck. He

588
00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:11,599
got my number. We talked a few times, and I

589
00:39:11,679 --> 00:39:14,000
didn't know what his last name was. I was way

590
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:16,519
past the point where I should have known his last name.

591
00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:18,639
And if I asked him, I knew he'd be it

592
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,880
would offend him. I mean, we've all been there.

593
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been there.

594
00:39:24,599 --> 00:39:26,199
Speaker 4: I don't know how you go from that to like

595
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:29,920
waking up in Vegas, but whatever. She also says she

596
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:34,440
has personally never drunken, drunkenly elope to Las Vegas, or

597
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,280
even been inebriated enough to embarrass herself.

598
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: That makes that makes one of us fun.

599
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I.

600
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,559
Speaker 4: Cannot relate to that at all. As I said, I

601
00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:52,800
don't know much about her or her song, so I

602
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,440
didn't know that this song is sort of a prequel

603
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:58,320
to her song Before He Cheats, which apparently was a

604
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,440
big hit or something.

605
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 8: Oh that was, you know that song everything. Even Neil

606
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,119
would know that song if he heard it.

607
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,679
Speaker 4: Also, I hadn't seen the video, and the story's a

608
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,280
little different in the video than the one in my head.

609
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:14,280
I agree with Billboard who said it's a cleverly penn

610
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:19,760
lyric that hilariously celebrates drunken debauchery, as well as summing

611
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,719
it up as a performance that combines soulful vocals, edgy intensity,

612
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:30,079
and sassy attitude into a delicious cocktail. Love that review.

613
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,199
What I learned from the video is that the guy

614
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,119
that she's talking to and with that night is hitting

615
00:40:39,199 --> 00:40:42,480
on and ogling every other woman in sight the whole evening.

616
00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:45,679
So for me, it went from like a cute little

617
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,199
drunken story of two people getting drunk together and end

618
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:55,840
up married to whatever this was, I don't know. I

619
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,480
wrote I roll emoji because I couldn't think of it.

620
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,400
So thanks to this show. I like the song a

621
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,360
little bit less, but I'm just going to keep my

622
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,360
own version in my head of what happened.

623
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 8: All right.

624
00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:14,679
Speaker 5: I like her.

625
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 8: She performed at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

626
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,920
induction ceremony that we got to go to in twenty three.

627
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,400
She did They were inducting George Michael, and she did

628
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,000
one more try that hit. She did a good job.

629
00:41:28,039 --> 00:41:28,760
I thought it was good.

630
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 4: You don't have to defend her to me. I think

631
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,480
she's got an incredible voice. I just don't know anything

632
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:33,880
about her.

633
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:37,039
Speaker 8: Yeah, I couldn't tell you that I learned today about her.

634
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:39,239
All I know is, you know, kind of the hits

635
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:42,320
all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know anything.

636
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:45,039
Speaker 4: Either, but I just I just love the twist. I

637
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:46,039
think it's very funny.

638
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was a good one.

639
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,679
Speaker 4: But now I'm mad at the creepy guy.

640
00:41:51,159 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 8: He wasn't creepy, but there was nothing.

641
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 4: He was totally creepy. He was hitting on every other

642
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,159
woman in the room while he was like, and why

643
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,960
did he drag her out to get married if he

644
00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:03,159
knew he was going to be a jerk and cheatah

645
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,159
her In the next song.

646
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:11,039
Speaker 8: The next song that comes later, you can be mad later, Okay, Okay,

647
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,440
we'll come back to that one songs about anger or something.

648
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:17,719
Then you can bring that up. Okay, we'll refer back

649
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,199
to this. Got it all right? Sounds good? One more

650
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,159
quick break and we have two more picks to go,

651
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,679
so stick around Hutson River.

652
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 10: Radio dot com.

653
00:42:33,559 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 6: Hudson Riverradio dot com.

654
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,679
Speaker 8: And at last we are up to Gale.

655
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:48,079
Speaker 9: And that's the name of the song I chose because

656
00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:50,679
it's been in my head for the last three weeks

657
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:55,960
and I couldn't forget about it. So I barely know

658
00:42:56,119 --> 00:43:00,480
where to start. Regarding the artist whose version of it

659
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:06,400
I chose, Eta James Gosh.

660
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,599
Speaker 4: So good, so good.

661
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 9: There is a ton of information about her. She was

662
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:22,800
actually born james Etta Hawkins, and she was born January

663
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,239
twenty fifth, nineteen thirty eight, and she passed away at

664
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:33,320
seventy three on January twentieth, twenty twelve. She was an

665
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:38,039
American singer and songwriter. She started her career in nineteen

666
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:44,239
fifty four. She frequently performed in Nashville's R and B clubs,

667
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,639
collectively known in the nineteen forties, fifties, and sixties as

668
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:54,280
the Chutlin Circuit. She dealt with a number of personal problems,

669
00:43:54,480 --> 00:44:01,280
including heroin addiction, physical abuse, and incarceration, before making a

670
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,360
musical comeback in the late nineteen eighties with the album

671
00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:10,760
Seven Year Itch came out in nineteen eighty eight. She

672
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:16,159
won so many awards. She won three Grammy Awards for

673
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:22,559
her albums two thousand and five, two thousand and four,

674
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:29,400
nineteen ninety five, Gosh, the Blues Music Awards. She was

675
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:32,320
inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in

676
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,480
nineteen ninety three, the Grammy Hall of Fame in nineteen

677
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:39,880
ninety nine, and the Blues Hall of Fame in two

678
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:45,880
thousand and one. She also received the Grammy Lifetime Achievement

679
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:51,440
Award in two thousand and three. Rolling Stone magazine ranks

680
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:54,440
her number twenty two on the two thousand and eight

681
00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:58,079
list of the one hundred Greatest Singers of All Time.

682
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,679
She was also ranked number sixty two in its list

683
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,159
of the one hundred Greatest Artists of all time. Billboard

684
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:12,239
Magazine's twenty fifteen lists of the thirty five greatest R

685
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:16,559
and B Artists of all time also included Eta James.

686
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:19,840
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame named her one

687
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,440
of the greatest voices of her century and forever the

688
00:45:24,599 --> 00:45:28,000
matriarch of blues Now.

689
00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 4: The song I chose is at Last, which is just.

690
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 9: Such a beautiful, bluesy, wonderful song. You could kind of

691
00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:49,119
just fall into it. It's oughugh, It's one of those

692
00:45:49,159 --> 00:45:52,119
things that I say, you can eat it with a spoon.

693
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 8: So it's the opposite of Carrie Underwood.

694
00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 9: Yes, okay, sorry, sorry Mercedes, but yeah now. The song itself,

695
00:46:03,159 --> 00:46:08,280
at Last, was written by Mac Gordon and Harry Warren

696
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,840
for the musical film Sun Valley Serenade in nineteen forty one.

697
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,400
Glenn Miller and his orchestra recorded the tune several times

698
00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:22,360
with a nineteen forty two version reaching number two on

699
00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:28,760
the US Billboard Pop Music chart. In nineteen sixty, Eda

700
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,559
James recorded an arrangement by Riley Hampton that improvised on

701
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,800
Warren's original melody at A. James's written edition was the

702
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,280
title track on her debut album, also called at Last,

703
00:46:44,119 --> 00:46:49,840
in nineteen sixty and was eventually inducted into the Grammy

704
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:55,000
Hall of Fame in nineteen ninety nine. Most recently, Selene

705
00:46:55,079 --> 00:47:00,639
Dion and Beyonce have also have chart success is with

706
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,480
the song.

707
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, didn't Etiquette really upset about that?

708
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 11: Yeah?

709
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,599
Speaker 9: I think I think I read that she did because

710
00:47:09,639 --> 00:47:10,239
she felt it.

711
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,039
Speaker 8: It's her song and it was. Yeah, I just remember

712
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:16,719
something about Beyonce. I don't remember Seline Dion, thank god,

713
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,920
I've never heard that version. Yeah, no, absolutely, but yeah,

714
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,480
I remember her being quite upset about Beyonce doing it

715
00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:26,760
for something and rightfully so I would agree.

716
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, let's have a listen and I'll mention any

717
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:33,039
normal things about the.

718
00:47:33,199 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 8: Artist, and the song.

719
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 14: Has come along.

720
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 6: My lonely days.

721
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 8: Are over.

722
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 10: L likeness like a song. Yeah, at Last, the Stones above.

723
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:42,639
Speaker 14: The Blue, My heart was wrapped up in Clover the

724
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,360
night I looked at you.

725
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:58,519
Speaker 6: I found from the dreams that I could speak to,

726
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:06,360
a dream that I can call my own.

727
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 10: I found a dream.

728
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 14: To press my check too, A thrill live you smile,

729
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:29,280
you smile.

730
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:32,559
Speaker 10: Oh, they.

731
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 6: The spells cats.

732
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:55,079
Speaker 10: And here we are in heaven for your mine. At least.

733
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 9: To me, it doesn't get much better than that.

734
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:26,639
Speaker 1: That's a masterpiece.

735
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:33,679
Speaker 9: Oh that was beautiful, absolutely delicious, beautifully sung, just the

736
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,360
right amount of losiness in it.

737
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 8: And just oh but does she know his last name?

738
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 9: Well, she didn't say so she might or might not. Fair,

739
00:50:50,599 --> 00:50:54,159
I mean, hopefully she does, but I guess she's not

740
00:50:54,400 --> 00:51:03,840
telling anybody. Oh, oh, gosh. At Last became Da James's

741
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,480
signature song and was the third in a string of

742
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:12,800
successful songs from her RGO Record's debut album in April

743
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,760
nineteen sixty one. It became her second number two R

744
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,559
and B hit single and crossed over to pop radio,

745
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,119
reaching number forty seven on the Billboard Hot one hundred.

746
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:29,360
Despite its modest pop chart standing, this song is well

747
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:34,559
known and is still played regularly on oldies radio stations

748
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:41,360
and has become a music standard. Her recording also reached

749
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:47,639
number thirty in cash Box magazine and the song obviously

750
00:51:48,519 --> 00:51:53,440
is often used for weddings and wedding receptions. And this

751
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:58,519
version was inducted to the Library of Congress National Recording Registry,

752
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:03,800
and in twenty twenty one it ranked at number one

753
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:08,360
hundred and fifteen on Rolling Stones Top one hundred Greatest

754
00:52:08,519 --> 00:52:13,920
Songs of All Time. And I definitely think it's one

755
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,880
of the greatest songs of all time. And you know me,

756
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:23,639
Usually I'm listening to male singers with deep voices and

757
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,199
heavy drum beats and all that kind of thing, but

758
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,679
this one just grabs me every time.

759
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,639
Speaker 4: My favorite EDITJM song is I'd Rather Go Blind? Have

760
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:38,320
you ever heard that?

761
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 9: I've heard of it, but I need to listen to it.

762
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 4: It's so good, it's so good.

763
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,079
Speaker 8: Nice all right. Yeah, I played that one a million

764
00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:53,920
times at learnings in the previous life, so yeah, I'm

765
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,079
quite familiar with that one.

766
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 9: So all right, I would like to like practice that

767
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,800
well enough to do like an open mic or something.

768
00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 8: We got the crambone band right here, We got the

769
00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:10,280
guitarist here. He was supposed to be practicing right after

770
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:15,119
the show. Are you no, she's shaking her head now,

771
00:53:15,679 --> 00:53:17,519
all right, we'll have to get someone else to fill in.

772
00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:20,719
But yeah, we can make it happen. It's all good.

773
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,719
We'll put it on the list, all right, one more

774
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,400
to go, here we go. So our story now starts

775
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,079
with a guy named Benjamin Earl Nelson born in North

776
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:35,280
Carolina in nineteen thirty eight. His family moved to Harlem,

777
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,599
New York when he was nine, and in nineteen fifty eight,

778
00:53:38,639 --> 00:53:40,920
when he was around twenty, he was invited to join

779
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,480
a duop group known as the Five Crowns after he

780
00:53:44,679 --> 00:53:48,320
was overheard singing to himself while working at his father's luncheonette.

781
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,559
The manager of a group known as the Drifters saw

782
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,719
the Five Crowns perform at the legendary Apollo Theater. This

783
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,840
manager then fired the original members of the Drifters and

784
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,320
replace them with the Five Crowns, who then became the Drifters.

785
00:54:07,079 --> 00:54:10,400
You can probably say, wow, yeah, that's how good they

786
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:11,920
You can keep track of that.

787
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: Wow, what are the odds of that happened?

788
00:54:14,159 --> 00:54:14,559
Speaker 5: Uh huh.

789
00:54:15,639 --> 00:54:19,199
Speaker 8: So in nineteen sixty Benjamin Nelson left the Drifters for

790
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,400
a solo career. He took on the name Ben e King,

791
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,599
and his first single was the wildly successful Spanish Harlem,

792
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,960
which I think everybody who's listening to the show probably

793
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,760
knows that song. It was his next single that would

794
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,519
make him an absolute legend. Stand By Me is one

795
00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:40,199
of the few songs to chart twice, once when it

796
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,400
was released in nineteen sixty one and then again in

797
00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:45,599
nineteen eighty six when it was used in the.

798
00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:50,039
Speaker 4: Movie stand By Me, stan By Me, Thank You.

799
00:54:51,079 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 8: Ben Benny King died in twenty fifteen at age seventy six,

800
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,639
but rewind the clock a little bit. In nineteen sixty,

801
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,159
just before King left the Drifters, they had a number

802
00:55:02,199 --> 00:55:05,239
one hit with the song Save the Last Dance for Me.

803
00:55:06,159 --> 00:55:09,519
It was produced by Jerry Leeber and Mike Stoller, who

804
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,880
also wrote hound Dog, which we talked about before Big

805
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,679
Mom Thornton then later Elvis. At the time they had

806
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:21,400
a young unknown apprentice named Phil Spector who was learning

807
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,320
the ropes and learning how to handle firearms unsafely.

808
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 9: Remember totally read my mind just now, Brian.

809
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,519
Speaker 8: Yep, that's a whole other thing we could talk about

810
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:34,639
another time. The song itself was written by a blue

811
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,079
singer songwriter named Jerry Felder, who went by the stage

812
00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:41,840
name Doc Pomis because he thought Doc Pomis carried more

813
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:48,920
credibility than Jerry Felder for some reason. Okay, he partnered

814
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,920
up with a younger songwriter named Mort Schuman, who went

815
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,599
by the stage name Mort Schuman because apparently he didn't

816
00:55:55,679 --> 00:56:00,320
care and just kept his name. They were both from Brooklyn,

817
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,679
New York. Now to the casual listener, the song Save

818
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,639
the Last Dance for Me is about a guy who

819
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,320
was happy to watch his girlfriend or wife or whatever.

820
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,920
We don't know mingle socialize have a good time, presumably

821
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,119
at a party, as long as she obviously dances the

822
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,239
last dance with him before they go home for the evening.

823
00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:21,079
We are not casual listeners here at the Rock and

824
00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:24,599
Roll History Show because otherwise we would not have a

825
00:56:24,679 --> 00:56:28,639
show to do, so the real story behind the song

826
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,400
is a little more bittersweet. The writer Doc Pomis slash

827
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:35,599
Jerry Felder, doc Felder, Pomis, whatever you want to call him,

828
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,920
was stricken by polio when he was younger, and he

829
00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:42,320
walked with the help of crutches. Later on he was

830
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:47,800
wheelchair bound. Unfortunately, polio, if you're not familiar, because none

831
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:52,000
of us have, it, is a virus also called poliomyelitis.

832
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:55,480
It's highly infectious. It attacks the nervous system and can

833
00:56:55,559 --> 00:56:59,440
render someone paralyzed within hours of catching it. There is

834
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,320
no cure, but there is a highly effective vaccine, and

835
00:57:03,559 --> 00:57:06,880
polio is one of those diseases that's on the verge

836
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,119
of being eradicated, not quite there. Only the second disease

837
00:57:10,199 --> 00:57:13,360
in human history to be eradicated smallpox me in the

838
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,599
first back in nineteen eighty. As of now, the FDA,

839
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,840
some individual has asked the FDA to revoke approval for

840
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,840
the polio vaccine, which to me is just pure idiocy.

841
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,960
And I wasn't gonna mention this. I'm mentioning it now.

842
00:57:30,719 --> 00:57:32,679
In one of the previous lifetimes, I picked up a

843
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,159
master's degree in public health, so when I'm saying this,

844
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,760
I have a little bit of background to say it.

845
00:57:38,039 --> 00:57:41,599
So the two biggest things, two biggest improvements in public

846
00:57:41,639 --> 00:57:43,760
health plumbing and vaccines.

847
00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 4: So take from that what you will, and take your vaccine,

848
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:49,079
take your vaccines.

849
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 9: Really, I just I like indoor plumbing very much.

850
00:57:54,519 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 8: Right. The third best thing ever is the whirlpool of

851
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,960
jet tub when you have a night off, but that's

852
00:58:03,639 --> 00:58:05,639
again another discussion for another show.

853
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 4: You know, if you have one if you have one.

854
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:12,519
Speaker 8: I don't have one, but sounds awesome, doesn't it. Yeah,

855
00:58:12,719 --> 00:58:15,960
all right, back to the song. So now, Doc Pomis's wife,

856
00:58:16,639 --> 00:58:20,199
Willie Burke, was a Broadway dancer and actress, so the

857
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,360
song is actually his first person perspective of watching his

858
00:58:24,639 --> 00:58:28,000
dancer wife having fun dancing doing what she did, but

859
00:58:28,119 --> 00:58:30,440
not being able to join in himself because he was

860
00:58:30,639 --> 00:58:33,280
stuck in a wheelchair. But he knows no matter what,

861
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:34,920
that at the end of the night, she will be

862
00:58:35,039 --> 00:58:39,800
going home with him and live happily ever after. Together.

863
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,719
Doc Pomis and mort Schumann had a very long list

864
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,440
of hits that they wrote together. They wrote A Teenager

865
00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:47,840
in Love, They wrote This Magic Moment, you know, Jay

866
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,320
Black and the Americans. They wrote Viva Las Vegas, made

867
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,320
popular by Elvis, So they did quite well for themselves

868
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,079
as songwriters. They worked out of the historic Brill Building

869
00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:00,159
in New York City, which is still there but is

870
00:59:00,199 --> 00:59:02,599
now retail space and office space, and they call it

871
00:59:02,679 --> 00:59:05,159
creative spaces, like they lease out to artists and all

872
00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:07,559
that kind of thing. But it's not the music building

873
00:59:07,639 --> 00:59:08,840
that it was before.

874
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 4: But let's give a little real building, doesn't it.

875
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 8: I think somebody bought the sign too. They kept it

876
00:59:17,639 --> 00:59:19,719
and they they're using it for something else. It might

877
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,400
be on display in a gallery somewhere. I don't think

878
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,599
it's on the building anymore. I think that was actually

879
00:59:24,639 --> 00:59:28,719
auctioned off when the building was sold, So that's something

880
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,239
to look into. I'm not really sure so, but the

881
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,639
building itself is still there. The insides are completely I

882
00:59:33,639 --> 00:59:36,280
think it's a CVS and a bank at the ground level,

883
00:59:36,719 --> 00:59:39,920
which is not nearly as exciting as a smash it

884
00:59:40,039 --> 00:59:42,360
by the drifters, which we are going to listen to. Now,

885
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,119
you saved the last dance for me.

886
00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:48,239
Speaker 7: You can dance heavy, dance with the gals and give

887
00:59:48,639 --> 00:59:50,800
you the I let them hold you tight.

888
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,159
Speaker 4: You can smile if you smile for the man who

889
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:57,079
held your.

890
00:59:57,159 --> 00:59:58,599
Speaker 1: Hand for pil.

891
01:00:00,199 --> 01:00:10,719
Speaker 8: But don't forget who so d say the last dance.

892
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,119
Speaker 5: Apparently, allegedly, my father had polio when he was like

893
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:25,159
very young. Yeah, well he survived and uh well his

894
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:31,440
one leg was shorter than the other. That was no

895
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:35,199
wheelchair or anything like that. But and there's a long

896
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,960
story that goes with that, and I'll tell you some

897
01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:38,480
other time.

898
01:00:38,599 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 8: But yeah, it wasn't failed, you know, unless your breathing

899
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,079
muscles were paralyzed.

900
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,599
Speaker 5: Let me cut to the it got him, he didn't.

901
01:00:48,719 --> 01:00:51,079
He was drafted obviously into World War two, but it

902
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:55,239
kept him out of the Battle of the Bulge. And

903
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,760
it's kind of a comical story. But yeah, that would

904
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,400
have been I might not have been here. I might

905
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:05,480
have you know that, get there, But thanks to polio

906
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:06,400
you got me.

907
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:13,239
Speaker 8: Thanks, thanks, I know. Yes, it's Kennon the whole iron

908
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:18,199
lung thing. That's why we have Helena Hospital.

909
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 4: It says, it's stop the building last for me.

910
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,239
Speaker 5: Hey, fiddles, whole bunch of them.

911
01:01:37,159 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 4: Don't they sound good?

912
01:01:41,239 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 6: What do you calls?

913
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:51,199
Speaker 4: Take your sticks your last?

914
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 3: See the last dance for me?

915
01:02:02,679 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: Say the last?

916
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,199
Speaker 8: So yeah, Benny King did all right for himself for

917
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,639
a while after that. I can see why that's one

918
01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:14,400
of those groove songs. I don't know, I don't know

919
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:15,719
anybody who doesn't like that song.

920
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 4: How can you not like that song? You know?

921
01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 9: Right?

922
01:02:20,039 --> 01:02:20,239
Speaker 5: Yeah?

923
01:02:20,559 --> 01:02:21,639
Speaker 4: An incredible song?

924
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,079
Speaker 8: Yeah all right, so uh that's it for that was

925
01:02:25,159 --> 01:02:27,519
the last last that we're gonna last tonight.

926
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,199
Speaker 4: I think all the songs tonight were incredible. They were

927
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:33,960
maybe maybe mine.

928
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,239
Speaker 1: I like him, know she's an awesome vocalist.

929
01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:40,599
Speaker 4: She is an awesome bookus of music.

930
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: That's right, neither, but she's an awesome vocalist.

931
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 8: She falls into that new country overproduced songs are written

932
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:54,000
by committee style, which doesn't take away from her vocal ability.

933
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,800
I think it says more about the business.

934
01:02:56,039 --> 01:02:58,039
Speaker 5: You still have to be able to sing it. Yeah,

935
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,039
you still have to live right, So and she can.

936
01:03:01,199 --> 01:03:04,079
Speaker 4: She's you know, she's legit a strong vocalist.

937
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 8: YEP, I get it, all right.

938
01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:09,599
Speaker 5: So we saved the best for last, is what we're saying.

939
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:11,480
Did we think we did?

940
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,119
Speaker 8: I don't know. I think they were all good.

941
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. We all saved. Never mind, I

942
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:17,760
got you.

943
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,559
Speaker 8: But the problem is which is the last? Last? Got it?

944
01:03:21,719 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 4: Got it? But we're all the last collectively are the

945
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:27,719
last song?

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Speaker 5: We are, right?

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Speaker 8: And this conversation is telling me it's time to pull

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the plug.

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Speaker 4: Whatever that?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, context clues, we'll go with that. So all right.

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As always, excellent selections, and thank you Crambones for all

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the hard work you guys put in every week, almost

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every week except for the occasional week that we're not here,

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And thank you all for joining us. Here for the

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for everybody. We'll be back next week with another band,

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new episode. Until then, have a great weekend and peace

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out everybody.

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Speaker 13: I'm due to other.

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Speaker 9: Name, come a rock cop bottom it trum.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Bye bye.

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