WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:03.439 The time for the in the Zone, Jim Colbert shows 2 00:00:03.480 --> 00:00:05.719 simocats the way to make it look right with this 3 00:00:05.799 --> 00:00:08.080 stupid camera. So I know it's kind of crazy. It 4 00:00:08.119 --> 00:00:10.439 looks like a yeah, it's a it's the look it's 5 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:12.480 like it's gonna fall like a funhouse world. 6 00:00:12.519 --> 00:00:14.839 Look at that thing that not only does it look 7 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:16.879 like it's gonna fall, it's shocking that it's not. 8 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:19.760 Yeah, it's dead square on the shot though you will 9 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:23.440 get it from the here. It's like dead square. Okay, 10 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:26.600 I'm doing great. Nice for lack of you cold O 11 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:28.960 bring your studio. You're wearing a hoodie? Are you trying to? 12 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:33.280 I just, I just I just got pretty cold over there. 13 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:35.479 And then and then I thought, okay, I'm gonna throw 14 00:00:35.479 --> 00:00:38.880 this on. Sometimes it's a sauna over here. Sometimes it 15 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:41.679 feels like Antarctica. I never know what to expect in 16 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:45.799 your studio's either, So I threw this on because it's 17 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:48.640 nice and nice and cozy here in the studio. Obviously, 18 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:51.200 this time of year in Florida, you look ridiculous whenever 19 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:53.479 you put a sweater on. But that the studio does 20 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:54.280 get cold. 21 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:56.000 But that doesn't stop anybody from twenty four and under 22 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:58.439 because that seems to be exactly what everybody does under 23 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:00.840 the age of twenty four does. Yep, dead of summer. 24 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:05.159 They wear hoodies, full sleeve hood up everywhere they go. 25 00:01:05.480 --> 00:01:08.560 It's the craziest. I've never seen anything like it. My 26 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:11.519 son will he walks around in a hoodie. It's ninety 27 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:13.799 eight degrees outside, walking around in a hoodie. Don't get 28 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:18.400 it in shorts. Dumb, so dumb. But either way, that's fine. 29 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:21.680 I don't know. I turned forty in August. I have 30 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:27.879 a hard time, hard time explaining the the youth out there. 31 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:31.799 I am not with it. August one, August sixth, are 32 00:01:31.840 --> 00:01:36.040 you serious? Yeah? Interesting, same birthday as Lucille Ball. 33 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:40.000 I'll be damn really yeah, my wife's birthdays on the fourth. 34 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:43.319 Oh wow, and then my daughter is July and six. 35 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:46.319 We should do at dinner? We shouldn't. 36 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:48.239 We should just keep our distance right here in the studio, 37 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:48.879 is what we should do. 38 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:52.480 Was that a store over the weekend that had social 39 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:53.599 distancing stigns? 40 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:54.439 Really? 41 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:57.599 Oh? My got them? I thought that's we could probably 42 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:01.920 feel those off. Yeah, yeah, this solid. So what do 43 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:04.280 you got first today? Buddy? Well, let's talk. Let's talk 44 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.079 with Orlando City. We haven't done that in a couple 45 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:08.479 of weeks. They're still sitting at fifth in the East. 46 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:11.120 They dropped a golden opportunity at home against a good 47 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:16.039 Cincinnati team leading right, that's our divisions. They're towards the top. 48 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:19.080 They picked up a four to two win earlier in 49 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:23.199 the week against Saint Louis. City had its second match 50 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:28.319 this week, so did Cincinnati. So not necessarily an excuse, 51 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:31.599 but it is a reason for why the game was sluggish. 52 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:33.759 It took both teams a while to get going. Oh see, 53 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:37.080 first shot on goal was fifteen minutes in. First shot, 54 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:39.919 not first goal for a shot on goal fifteen minutes 55 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:42.159 in for Cincinnati, it took twenty five minutes for them 56 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:43.000 to even take a shot. 57 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:45.080 I was there, you were there for that. It was 58 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:47.639 you know, here's the thing. And I love going to 59 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:49.039 the games, you know, and we have to drive like 60 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:51.400 forty minutes to get to the games. Love it. Excited 61 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:53.080 to go. Took a nap to get their own time 62 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:55.520 and have a good time. Hold on yards. It was 63 00:02:55.759 --> 00:02:58.800 so bad. The game was not only sluggish, but man, 64 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:01.400 these guys are so chippy. The play was being stopped 65 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:04.080 like it seemed like every thirty seconds, the play was 66 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:07.120 getting stopped yet again, more stoppages, and it was just 67 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:10.919 like almost fighting. It was just a weird, really weird 68 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:13.080 vibe for the game. And by the way, that first 69 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:16.080 goal from Cincinnati, that shot was Banana's good. 70 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:18.960 I mean, it was crazy. So that team is that 71 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:21.039 team is really good. And that's why I say it's 72 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:24.120 a golden opportunity for Orlando City right now. They are 73 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:26.520 climbing their way up the ranks. To beat teams like 74 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:28.639 this when you get them at home is going to 75 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:32.240 be really important for OC. You know, waiting until the 76 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:35.319 eighty seventh minute in order to punch one in probably 77 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:37.759 isn't going to get it done. But the summer months 78 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:40.719 have usually not been kind to Orlando City. We'll see 79 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:43.280 if they're able to dig themselves out of this one. 80 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:45.120 They did have a two game winning street coming into 81 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:46.439 that game Saturday. 82 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:48.199 They looked a little gassed, But if I'm being honest 83 00:03:48.199 --> 00:03:50.240 with it, just they didn't play a real pressing defense 84 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:52.599 and it seemed like Cincinnati really pressed the ball all 85 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:54.560 the way, all the way up and down the pitch 86 00:03:54.639 --> 00:03:57.680 every single play, and Orlando just didn't seem like they 87 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:00.240 had that extra edge kind of overcome that what it 88 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:00.680 looked like to me. 89 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:03.240 Can I pitch something your way to both of you, 90 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:05.639 because you guys are pretty plugged in on the soccer world, 91 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:10.840 especially Jack. Have you heard any feedback for the FIFA 92 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:15.039 Club World Cup matches that we've had at Camping World Stadium, 93 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:21.160 because I've seen attendance numbers have been all over the place. Yeah. Yeah, 94 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:24.160 very dependent on who it is that's playing. We have 95 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:27.319 some of the bigger brands that places Camping World Stadium 96 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:29.600 is filling up, and then you have other games that 97 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:32.199 look like they forgot to let people in. Oh yeah, yeah. 98 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:34.199 So I was just curious, if you've. 99 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:37.120 Heard me, early on in the earlier rounds, they had 100 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:39.839 a trouble. They had trouble drawing crowds. I know it 101 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:43.399 was like five, six, seven thousand, but I think as 102 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:47.160 you this tournament kind of dwindles down, you're getting to 103 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:51.639 see the more popular teams and you are seeing larger draws. 104 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:54.240 Okay, good. 105 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:57.160 People were sitting next to our our season ticket holders, 106 00:04:57.199 --> 00:04:58.759 and they're big fans, they go to all this stuff. 107 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:01.199 They actually asked a asked us if we went to 108 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:03.040 any of those games, and we told them no, they 109 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:04.800 said they've been good games, but I didn't ask them 110 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:05.439 about the crowd. 111 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:09.519 So, okay, onto basketball my world. Okay, let's talk about 112 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:11.639 the Orlando Magic first and then we can kind of 113 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:12.519 spray out from there. 114 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:14.720 Okay, but can you answer something real quick before we 115 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:17.240 even get into that. Regarding the Magic. The headlines that 116 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:21.600 they regarding Moe Wagner and the other player, Caleb Caleb Houston, 117 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:24.199 they were kind of weird. It was kind of odd 118 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:27.639 because if you don't understand how contracts work and how, 119 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:31.480 you know, how all of that verbiage of how they 120 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:33.879 maintain players, it would lead you to believe that we're 121 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:35.720 trying to get rid of those two players by not 122 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:38.439 picking up their option or something, which is a possibility. 123 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:41.639 Yeah. So they both had what are called team there 124 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:44.600 in the NBA, contracts are very complicated. You have team 125 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:47.360 options for some players, you have player options for others. 126 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:49.959 Some contracts have no options, you just play out your contract. 127 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:53.120 For these two guys, they had team options. That means 128 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:55.600 that the option is on the team as to whether 129 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.439 or not they are extended for the final year of 130 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:02.079 their deal. For Wagner, he had if the Magic said 131 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:04.000 we don't want you to enter free agency at all. 132 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:06.240 We don't want to negotiate with you. You pick up 133 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:09.279 the option and you pay Mo Wagner eleven million dollars 134 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:11.720 for next season. That's the end. That's just and then 135 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:13.600 at the end of next year he would become a 136 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:16.319 free agent. For Caleb Houston, it was two million dollars, 137 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:22.120 and that those were options that they declined. They might 138 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:24.839 move off of them, they might not. I think what 139 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:27.879 happened is they declined those options so that they could 140 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:32.160 get into negotiations with other players and see if they 141 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:35.279 want to upgrade their roster. It gives them flexibility, and 142 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:38.160 it also I think it does do right by Mo 143 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:40.800 Wagner specifically because he's the better player of the two 144 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:43.439 to go out and test the market. Hey, if you 145 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.959 can go make fifteen million dollars a year somewhere else, 146 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:50.439 we're not going to stand in your way. It also, 147 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:52.600 we'll use that money on someone else on our side, 148 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:54.319 and so I think it's it's kind of best for 149 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:58.160 both worlds. The Magic can then engage in conversations because 150 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:01.839 they're cash strapped up and in the NBA world, thirteen 151 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:03.959 million dollars is not a lot. You can sign a 152 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:06.839 pretty significant player at thirteen million dollars a year, somebody 153 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:09.319 a role player that can help you off the bench. 154 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:11.560 And so that's something that they can now engage in 155 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:14.480 those conversations. And if they don't end up finding anybody 156 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:17.360 that they're in love with, then they'll settle back on 157 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:20.319 the guys that they declined options for. I would put 158 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:23.199 it at a seventy percent chance that Mo Wagner's on 159 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:25.319 the team again. His little brother is one of the 160 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:27.319 starts of the show. That's kind of why I don't 161 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:29.560 think he's going anywhere. He loves it here. The team 162 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:32.399 loves him. He's an energy guy. He brings so much 163 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:37.240 intangibly to this basketball team. Caleb Houston more likely that 164 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:40.040 they actually moved off of him, but we'll see what happens. 165 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:42.759 Free agency does open up tonight, so you're gonna get 166 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:45.399 an idea pretty quickly as to who the Magic could 167 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:48.480 be going after. And who do you think or if anyone. Yeah, 168 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:51.279 they've been relatively stingy in these times over the last 169 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:53.360 few years, though, have they not well? Last year? I 170 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:57.519 usually yes, because they had been pinching pennies to get 171 00:07:57.560 --> 00:08:00.639 ready for this big push that they're making right Now, 172 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:04.759 last year they doled out one of the bigger contracts 173 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:07.720 in free agency to Contavious Caldwell Pope. They brought him 174 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:11.199 in veteran from Denver, helped them win a championship, helped 175 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:14.240 the LA Lakers win a championship a couple of years prior, 176 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:16.879 just didn't really work out. He was still really good defensively. 177 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:21.079 The three point shot just evaporated in Orlando. So that 178 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:22.680 was part of the reason why they gave up as 179 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:24.560 much as they did to bring in Desmond Bayin. They 180 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:27.079 had to offload that really bad deal that they signed 181 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:29.920 last year in free agency. They move off of that, 182 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:32.519 and now we are going to get back to pinching 183 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:35.039 pennies mode because the team has a lot of money 184 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:38.399 invested in the players that are on the court. Jalen 185 00:08:38.440 --> 00:08:42.399 Suggs already signed a massive extension, Franz Wagner already signed 186 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:45.879 a massive extension, and Palo Banco is about to sign 187 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:49.679 one probably within the next forty eight hours. Those guys, 188 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:52.720 and Desmond Bayne's contract is not light either. So you've 189 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:56.000 got four of your starting five that get paid handsomely 190 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:00.720 relative to NBA players. They are spending money. Let anybody 191 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.039 in any conversation that you have about the Magic, say 192 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:06.120 that team is cheap. They are spending through the nose 193 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:09.360 for the young, talented group that they have right now. 194 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:14.039 The problem is is the way that the NBA contracts 195 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:18.799 and salary caps are aligned, it does make it very 196 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:21.919 difficult to then add money on top of that, even 197 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:24.600 if you've decided to push all of your chips in right. Yeah, 198 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:27.600 so they are up against it. You're not going to 199 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:30.200 see the magic through free agency make some big earth 200 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.320 shattering move. Those players also aren't out there. There's like 201 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:37.559 one big name, Miles Turner, the center for the Indiana Pacers. 202 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:40.440 He's available, He'll be way too expensive for the Magic. 203 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:43.080 You're looking at names that are not going to get 204 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:49.159 you excited. Duncan Robinson, Luke Cannard, Gary Trent Junior, Tias Jones. 205 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:52.720 Every one of those sounds like a NASCAR driver, every 206 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:58.559 one of them, especially Tias Jones. Yeah, definitely, I would 207 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:00.559 just say, don't worry about the name. Just go to 208 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.320 the stats page on ESPN and if the guy is 209 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:06.440 a career thirty eight percent three point shooter or better, 210 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:09.320 so somewhere in between the range realistically of thirty eight 211 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:10.320 to forty two percent. 212 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:11.720 You have just smile ear to year. 213 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:15.720 We're about the moneyball. That's bitch, We're about to moneyball 214 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:17.639 this guy. Give him the bag. 215 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:18.799 Give you know. 216 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:21.120 It's so funny because Orlando when they first came to 217 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:23.320 be a kind of part of our reputation was the 218 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:26.159 three ball. But Dennis Scott, like, nobody shot more threes 219 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:28.759 than the town. And now we can't get anybody can 220 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:30.440 make shoot twenty five percent. 221 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:32.480 So I'll take that to the next level because that 222 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:36.080 was during the Shack years. Yeah, you had Dennis Scott 223 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:37.759 that was one of the best three point shooters in 224 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:39.559 a league that didn't shoot a lot of threes. He 225 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:42.360 was special in that regard. Then you go to the 226 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:45.279 Dwight years and stan Van Gundy started to change the 227 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:48.759 way that basketball was played in the NBA. They went 228 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:51.799 one in, four out, so it was Dwight Howard in 229 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:53.799 the middle, and then he would spray out to four 230 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:56.600 other guys that can knock down threes. That's what made them, 231 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:01.080 that's what made them dangerous offensively. Was that stop When 232 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:04.639 you think about the Heido Turculeuse and JJ Reddix, Ryan Anderson, 233 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:08.240 Richard Lewis, all these guys could knock down threes Jamiir 234 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:11.879 Nelson and they're so far away from that right now. 235 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:15.000 They have to find somebody else. Desmond Bain is gonna 236 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:16.399 help a lot. He's one of the best three point 237 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:18.720 shooters in the league. There was a great pickup via 238 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:21.240 trade that they got, but they have to add someone 239 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:25.159 else because one player cannot buoy your entire team three 240 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:26.080 point shooting wise. 241 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:28.000 You have to at least somebody, have somebody that can 242 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:30.240 at least scare them a little bit, because again, if 243 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:32.200 you could double up one dude and basically shut down 244 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:35.080 the three ball and then contain everybody else, which I 245 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:36.799 don't think is going to be very easy this year 246 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:38.559 because I mean we do have some good players. Yeah, 247 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:40.480 and you know everybody's gonna be pretty healthy next year. 248 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:43.919 Well, I mean it just comes down to strategically. You 249 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:47.639 have Palo and Frands that want to score by attacking 250 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:49.679 the basket. They want to get into the paint and 251 00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:53.039 they want to cook. That's what they want to do. Well, 252 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:57.440 if the opposing defense doesn't respect your three point shooting, 253 00:11:57.440 --> 00:11:59.799 they're just gonna pack the paint and they're gonna go, Okay, 254 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:01.600 we're gonna put a wall in front of your two 255 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:04.960 best players, and now they can't score efficiently because we 256 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:07.600 don't care about everybody else. If the Magic start to 257 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:10.279 stretch the defense out, and all of a sudden, Palo 258 00:12:10.399 --> 00:12:12.399 gets to go one on one with a defender, he's 259 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:14.759 gonna win that battle more times than not. And so 260 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:17.559 that's what you're looking for. You're trying to stretch the defense. 261 00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:19.559 The only way to do that is for them to 262 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:21.919 respect your three point shooting, and right now the league 263 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:22.200 does not. 264 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:23.480 Yeah yeah, and they shouldn't. 265 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:26.000 We've given them a rhythm to absolutely not even scary 266 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:27.840 a little. So when they get to the playoffs, teams 267 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:28.840 go okay, go ahead. 268 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:30.720 Yeah yeah, right. That's when you know it's bad. When 269 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:32.840 nobody's being guarded out there, you're give them and the. 270 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:36.600 Magic fans they're wide open. Yeah, they let it. When 271 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:38.879 you're wide open. Sometimes in the NBA, it's because they 272 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:40.159 let you be wide open. 273 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:42.000 We were at the basketball version of when you came 274 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:44.399 up to play a little league baseball and everybody started shouting 275 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:48.600 easy out that's exactly. Or bring the field and bring 276 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:51.120 the bring the players in, you know, bring the outfield in. 277 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:53.720 That's that's the most disrespectable day. That's how we got 278 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:56.159 treated by Yeah, I remember that, remember those days. 279 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:58.720 Not me. I was a pretty good baseball player, but sure, 280 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:03.720 that's what I say too. That was my sport. Okay, 281 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:07.399 So staying on the NBA, this is on the seatier 282 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:09.559 side of things. But I'm curious to get your take 283 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:11.799 on this since you and I have talked a lot 284 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:14.519 of gambling over the last couple of weeks on this show. 285 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:17.960 Malik Beasley, who is one of those. He's one of 286 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:20.120 the guys that I would have brought up moments ago 287 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:23.679 in talking about adding three point shooting for the Orlando Magic. 288 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:28.480 But is he was incredible last year for the Detroit Pistons. 289 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:31.320 But right now he is under an investigation through the 290 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:36.240 US District Attorney's office for betting on player props. This 291 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:39.000 would have taken place during the twenty three twenty four season. 292 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:41.559 This guy is about to sign He's an unrestricted free agent. 293 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:44.320 He the deal he would sign is going to be 294 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:48.639 north of forty million dollars and right now nobody's going 295 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:52.000 to touch him because he's under federal investigation for betting 296 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:53.840 on him for what. So this is what the story is. 297 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:57.879 At least one prominent US sportsbook detected unusual heavy betting 298 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.399 interest on Malik Beasley statistic. So I'll pause right there 299 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:05.120 and explain what happens. These sportsbooks monitor all the action 300 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:09.000 that they get. This is a specific prop on a 301 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:13.360 somewhat random player for rebounds, and all the sudden bets 302 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:18.000 start pouring in at large numbers, large amounts of total 303 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:20.840 bets and the amount of dollars that are being bet 304 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:24.720 on for everyone that's placed, and all of a sudden, 305 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:26.679 you go, okay, why, all of a sudden, when this 306 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:29.720 guy gets let's just call it, five thousand dollars a 307 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:35.799 game over the the the United States, we have five 308 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:38.600 thousand dollars being placed on this guy every single game. Now, 309 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:40.559 all of a sudden, in this game, it's twenty five 310 00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:44.279 thousand dollars that raises red flags. They end up talking to, 311 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:47.960 you know, the people that police this stuff, and that's 312 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:52.320 how these investigations happen. A gambling industry source point into 313 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:55.279 a game between the Bucks and the Trailblazers. On January 314 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:58.600 thirty first, twenty twenty four, the odds on Beasley recording 315 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:02.240 fewer than two and a half rebounds moved significantly because 316 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:06.440 there was so much action on his under at two 317 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:09.200 and a half rebounds, which is a really random prop 318 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:11.960 to be betting on, and Beasley wound up finishing with 319 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:16.080 six rebounds, so the over actually hit. But what the 320 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:19.039 if you're reading the tea leaves here, is that Malik 321 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:23.360 Beasley is talking to other people saying, Hey, at the 322 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:25.759 under tonight, I'm not gonna get rebounds. 323 00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:26.240 Wow. 324 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:28.120 And that's the way that this stuff goes. 325 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:29.960 I saw a little video today about a player. I 326 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:31.360 didn't even look at it. I just saw the video 327 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:34.039 thats it rolled through and it's like it was this 328 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:36.519 guy playing defense and it wasn't even kind of funny. 329 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:37.960 A guy had him out on the three point line, 330 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:39.840 made one quick little move and the dude just stood 331 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:42.279 there by the guy bounce, you know, just basically dribbled 332 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:42.840 around him. 333 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:43.200 Yeah. 334 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:45.759 I mean, no effort at all to defend the guy 335 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:47.080 at all. And I guess this is the guy in 336 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:50.159 play because obviously, if there's one thing he's doing this with, 337 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:51.519 it's probably not stopping. 338 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:54.919 There right exactly. And that's why I mean this, This 339 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:58.320 one instance that ESPN points out to me is not 340 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:02.679 enough to warrant an entire investigation, especially when the people 341 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:05.559 who bet on the side that took the most money 342 00:16:05.639 --> 00:16:09.000 lost the wager. So there has to be something else 343 00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:12.559 out there, some other evidence for them to launch a 344 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:16.639 fully fledged investigation against this guy. What I find fascinating 345 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:18.159 about this and where there is a little bit of 346 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:21.200 egg on my face as somebody who has spoken out 347 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:25.440 at quite a loud volume of this will never become 348 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:29.679 an issue for prominent NBA players. You mean the sports gambling, Yeah, 349 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:32.600 where you have guys that are shaving points, that are 350 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:36.159 throwing games for the sake of winning bets, either for 351 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:40.200 themselves or acting as a tipster, because nobody has more 352 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:42.559 inside information about how game's gonna go than the one 353 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:47.840 that's playing it. Whatever side of the equation it is, 354 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:52.279 we've seen players in basketball. Johntay Porter is a name. 355 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:55.320 Jhontay Porter is an end of the bench guy that 356 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:58.159 spent five minutes in the NBA. For someone like that 357 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:01.240 to be part of a federal vent investigation shaving some 358 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:03.279 points because he knows, hey, I'm only going to play 359 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:05.480 for two minutes. Take my under. He bets it. He 360 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:07.200 tells his friends to bett, and all of a sudden, 361 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:10.920 there's unusual action on the fifteenth guy on the roster. Right, 362 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:14.079 that's the kind of thing that, unfortunately that is going 363 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:18.240 to happen with the legalization of sports betting. What I 364 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:21.359 did not think we would see is for prominent NBA 365 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:25.599 players that are making a significant paycheck that are somewhat 366 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:28.319 household names to be part of something like this. I 367 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:31.200 didn't think we'd see it. And Malik Beasley is I mean, 368 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:33.319 the guy isn't Lebron James. But this is as close 369 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:37.119 as we've gotten to a legitimate NBA starter being part 370 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:40.039 of a federal investigation that involves betting. Isn't this kind 371 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:40.279 of one? 372 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:42.720 Wouldn't this be a way that somebody could pay their 373 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:46.640 their crew back without giving them their money. Like if 374 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:48.200 you had a crew that kind of took care of you, 375 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:52.279 coming up right protected, you made sure everything was good, 376 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:54.720 a couple uncles, maybe a brother in law, something like that, 377 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:56.359 but you couldn't get You don't want to give them 378 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:59.119 your money because you're still just earning your money. But 379 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:00.759 wouldn't that be a way to pay them back? Could 380 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:03.119 and say, you guys want to bet this touch but 381 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:05.000 he tells him to bet the under and then he 382 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:05.920 gets the over. 383 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:09.720 That's the that's the weird That's the weird part about 384 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:13.240 this particular instance that ESPN brings up is because I 385 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:16.039 mean that obviously would be more of a red flag 386 00:18:16.039 --> 00:18:18.799 if he finished the game with one rebound and he went, okay, well, 387 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.319 a bunch of people that bet that cash the ticket. 388 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:24.720 But if there are other examples that are out there, 389 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:28.039 then absolutely, that's exactly what these sportsbooks don't want that. 390 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:30.759 That's why they don't Now that there's legalization. The good 391 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:34.039 thing about legalization is that this stuff gets uncovered because 392 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:36.559 the draft Kings and the Fanduels and the hard rocks 393 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:38.599 that are out there are quick to pick up the 394 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:41.680 phone to go you need to investigate, right because they're 395 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:44.039 taking our money. Yeah, they don't like that. 396 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:47.640 Well, also to erect the reputation of the platform. You know, 397 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:49.240 people won't even think they have a chance if they 398 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:52.799 think it's rigged. Somebody asked about thirty seconds of Dolphins news. 399 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:57.119 The Miami Dolphins traded Jalen Ramsey, the star defensive back. 400 00:18:57.160 --> 00:18:59.079 He's been on the block for the last couple of months. 401 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:00.839