Speaker 1: Recording. All right, kids, welcome to another edition of Off
Speaker 1: Limits with my partner in crime, Dylan Wren. I want
Speaker 1: to just very quickly before you go in. I talked
Speaker 1: about Trinity gold on my podcast because it was a
Speaker 1: supplement I was taking because it worked really well for
Speaker 1: inflammation and joint pain and I had like really tender
Speaker 1: achilles heels and it worked. It went away, and it
Speaker 1: turns out that trinity gold is not is not what
Speaker 1: it says it is. It's not area aatic herbs, it's
Speaker 1: not just shie legit. It also had a set of
Speaker 1: menefit in it. This is all from, according to the
Speaker 1: FDA's investigation, and two powerful anti inflammatory drugs, one of
Speaker 1: which has been banned in the United States because it
Speaker 1: causes bone marrow toxicity. And you know, I posted about
Speaker 1: this on my Instagram because I think this was a
Speaker 1: mistake in my opinion. In my opinion, I think I
Speaker 1: don't know how you make that mistake. I'm going to
Speaker 1: investigate more. I'm going to talk to some other people,
Speaker 1: but I think that this is criminal behavior personally, and
Speaker 1: until I hear otherwise, I'm going to go with the
Speaker 1: FDA report and I'm going to assume the worst, not
Speaker 1: the best. I think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I think it's not criminal. What do you mean it's
Speaker 2: not criminal? The FDA doesn't put those kind of regulations
Speaker 2: on those.
Speaker 1: Well, I think there's got to be something about when
Speaker 1: you when you say to me that you well, first
Speaker 1: of all, definitely criminal. Here's why you you told me.
Speaker 1: On the on the on your website and on Trinity
Speaker 1: Gold's packaging, it is very clear on what what the
Speaker 1: ingredients are. And I know that because I looked that
Speaker 1: up way before I started taking it, and it made
Speaker 1: no sense. It was working so well, and then I
Speaker 1: find out that they put a substance in there, a
Speaker 1: drug that is not allowed in the United States. It's
Speaker 1: not you can't prescribe it in the United States. And
Speaker 1: they put a set of benefit in which can cause
Speaker 1: liver damage, especially if you're taking a lot, so you
Speaker 1: could I could have overdosed on that. I also recommended
Speaker 1: it to my wife and other friends, and so what
Speaker 1: I was doing was putting my wife and my health
Speaker 1: at risk so they can go fuck themselves. And and
Speaker 1: so to me, that is criminal behavior. I don't think
Speaker 1: it was a mistake. I think these are criminals, and
Speaker 1: I think that I and I and I I think
Speaker 1: that the price should be jail are to That's how
Speaker 1: I feel. I don't know, I don't know. I have
Speaker 1: a feeling that this is the kind of thing that
Speaker 1: the FDA will probably handle. Do I want to get
Speaker 1: into a lawsuit?
Speaker 2: You know, Well, if you want to use your platform
Speaker 2: to expose them.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: They seem like CD.
Speaker 2: People, so you're probably gonna get sued in the process,
Speaker 2: so you might as well just go ahead.
Speaker 1: Well, if they want to bring that, that's fine. But
Speaker 1: I'm what I said was I I was I was
Speaker 1: very careful on my in my post to say what's
Speaker 1: going on, guys. I was just I was just reiterating
Speaker 1: what the FDA said, what their investigation set. Now, if
Speaker 1: if if the FDA is wrong, and if they didn't
Speaker 1: put a set of menafin and those two powerful anti
Speaker 1: inflammatory drugs in their product, you know, if this was
Speaker 1: some kind of a mistake because they made it the
Speaker 1: same plant that they do drugs in, that's a different story.
Speaker 1: But until I hear otherwise, you know, I take it
Speaker 1: very seriously that put my health at risk. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: because all of us Kevin James. Everybody was like, dude,
Speaker 1: this stuff works.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: So, what was the last time you had al poile loco.
Speaker 1: It's been a while, but it used to be very good.
Speaker 1: Why I was just wondering, Yeah, anyway, So that's what's
Speaker 1: that's that's what I wanted to bring people's attention because
Speaker 1: I had mentioned it on the podcast. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be taking it and I will be in Buffalo,
Speaker 1: New York. I want to thank people from Calgary, Yuk
Speaker 1: yucks for coming out. Always a great time, always great crowds.
Speaker 1: And there we have it.
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, let's start with.
Speaker 3: Let's start with some glutes.
Speaker 1: You've seen this guy before, very happy with his ass?
Speaker 3: Are you happy with his ass?
Speaker 5: When doing your.
Speaker 6: Straight back like this like most people do.
Speaker 5: Here's the magic trick.
Speaker 1: Ready, you're going to step over the cable. This guy's hilarious.
Speaker 1: He's obviously every gay man's dream and he uh, you
Speaker 1: know a lot a lot of these fitness guys, Okay,
Speaker 1: with all their fitness tips, they're already gifted genetically, right,
Speaker 1: They're gifted genetically Like you're big, you're strong, You've got
Speaker 1: all that because you already have an amazing frame and
Speaker 1: and the kind of genetics that put muscle on very easily.
Speaker 1: I could do all of that stuff. I could do
Speaker 1: everything you tell me. And I'm going to put on
Speaker 1: if I really work at it, five pounds of muscle
Speaker 1: and still look like I play golf on the weekends.
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna have delts. And if I took steroids,
Speaker 1: I would look like a skinny guy who takes steroids
Speaker 1: with tight skin who's too old to be taking steroids.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 2: It sounds like you've integrated your shadow self, which is
Speaker 2: a pigeon frame I have.
Speaker 1: I have integrated my pigeon frame, my bird like.
Speaker 2: That's really evolved of view. It is so he for
Speaker 2: sure bottoms.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't bottom, it'll.
Speaker 2: It's it's a weight.
Speaker 1: It's a crime. It's an actual crime, and it should
Speaker 1: be Yeah, it should be. Uh. I have a friend
Speaker 1: who's very very good looking, my buddy, Kevin Mack. And
Speaker 1: Kevin gets a lot of gay dms from men when
Speaker 1: he comes into town. Kevin's hot, and he'll get dms
Speaker 1: from men where it's like literally a guy with an
Speaker 1: ass like that bent over with just his balls and
Speaker 1: his ass and he's peeling his peach and he's like, uh,
Speaker 1: give me a call if you're interested. So he looks,
Speaker 1: he's like, this is what I get on and he
Speaker 1: calls Yeah, No he doesn't. No, No, Kevin is very straight. Hey,
Speaker 1: don't spread don't spread rumors about Kevin Mack for God's sake.
Speaker 2: All right, So I'm wondering where to go here. Let's
Speaker 2: go with Cynthia. Cynthia Arrivo. Now, I'm very excited for
Speaker 2: this movie because, as the fans know, I'm a gay
Speaker 2: man with a wife.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm unbelievably excited for this movie.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Wicked was my gay literature teacher in senior year in
Speaker 2: high school kind of got me to fall in love
Speaker 2: with reading. And one of the first things we read
Speaker 2: was Wicked and he loved it and it was very infectious.
Speaker 1: So you just said that Wicked is infectious. And there's
Speaker 1: not a straight man that I know, and it's fine,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I don't know any men, is
Speaker 1: I know no men, And I'm not saying this is
Speaker 1: this is good or bad. I don't know any men
Speaker 1: who have ever said to me I went and saw Wicked,
Speaker 1: be read Wicked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and my gay professors.
Speaker 1: Already too many words, though you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Already you have a strong opinion about a musical. I
Speaker 1: don't have any friends that have an opinion about a
Speaker 1: Broadway musical. None. I'm not saying I should have friends
Speaker 1: who do. I don't. But that means that my friends
Speaker 1: are very BROI and very straight.
Speaker 3: So have you seen shocked.
Speaker 1: I've not seen shocked. I've seen Broadway musicals and I
Speaker 1: love them like like haities Town, et cetera. Love it.
Speaker 1: But but but for the most part, I've never heard
Speaker 1: a straight man like yourself or pseudo straight man say
Speaker 1: something like and you know, I read the book and
Speaker 1: knowing the difference between the book and the music and
Speaker 1: a musical is already already on a different spectrum sexually,
Speaker 1: uh huh, and and God blessed. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, if you know that, even that level
Speaker 1: of minutia when it comes to musicals, you are also
Speaker 1: probably a fan of somebody with a beard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that's fine art in literature.
Speaker 2: That's Campbellian sound, chambellianly sound.
Speaker 3: I don't really Champbellian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's chambellianly sound, I don't really care if
Speaker 2: it's gay or straight.
Speaker 3: It's it's beauty.
Speaker 2: It's beauty, So you can take your fucking bullshit.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. And I've seen cats. I've seen all
Speaker 1: of it. It's great. I love musicals, so I mean
Speaker 1: I don't love them, you know, but I've seen a lot.
Speaker 2: Here's the issue, right, So this is the poster for Wicked,
Speaker 2: starring two women with just power.
Speaker 3: He voices yes, right.
Speaker 2: It was digitally altered by fans using AI to represent
Speaker 2: the musical poster. It has more fidelity to the musical poster,
Speaker 2: which has Alba buzz or Alphaba's hat pulled down, covering
Speaker 2: her her visage right, her visage, and Cynthia was very
Speaker 2: very upset by that.
Speaker 3: Can you read this?
Speaker 7: Wow?
Speaker 1: This is the Wilds's most offensive thing I have seen,
Speaker 1: equal to that awful AI of us fighting, equal to
Speaker 1: people posing the question is your.
Speaker 3: Pussy pussy green?
Speaker 1: None of this is funny, none of it is cute.
Speaker 1: It degrades me, It degrades us. The original poster is
Speaker 1: an illustration. I am a real life human being who
Speaker 1: chose to look right down the barrel of the camera
Speaker 1: to you, the viewer, because without words. We cannot communicate
Speaker 1: with our eyes. I'm sorry. Without words, we communicate with
Speaker 1: our eyes. Our poster is an homage, not an imitation.
Speaker 1: To edit my face and hide my eyes is to
Speaker 1: erase me, and that is deeply, deeply hurtful. I would
Speaker 1: say that she's a little sensitive here. I would say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that that's all they were doing. That's all
Speaker 1: they were doing. And I would say that this person
Speaker 1: takes themselves a little too seriously, a little too seriously,
Speaker 1: and they think of themselves as I guess historically significant.
Speaker 1: Or you took away like you're making this about you
Speaker 1: and you've got real fans here who just altered it
Speaker 1: with AI talk about picking a fight you're never gonna
Speaker 1: win here. Wow, And none of us were thinking about that.
Speaker 1: Nobody was thinking about that. That to me is a
Speaker 1: classic narcissist. But not surprised. It might be also what
Speaker 1: makes her so good. She's probably a hell of an actress.
Speaker 8: She probably makes what is her name, Cynthia Arivo, she's
Speaker 8: if she'll probably win an Academy Award for this, she's
Speaker 8: probably I'm going to send you a winner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to send you something. I want you
Speaker 1: to see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so getting the comments. Let us know.
Speaker 2: Who's gayer, me or that guy doing the gluten stretches.
Speaker 2: What's that I'm talking to the fans.
Speaker 1: Okay, now I want you to play this when you
Speaker 1: talk about narcissism. Okay, And and yeah, I just.
Speaker 3: Texted I love this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to just talk. I think this is
Speaker 1: Will Smith's child, and you know, I like Will Smith.
Speaker 1: I don't know any about Jada Pinkett. But when your
Speaker 1: child grows up a prince, when your child grows up
Speaker 1: with this kind of fame and money, you you and
Speaker 1: you're indulged to this degree, when you are essentially royalty,
Speaker 1: which is what he and his sister are.
Speaker 3: His sister's so beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gorgeous, Oh my god. Yeah. But but but
Speaker 1: but then you're also really wealthy and you've never heard
Speaker 1: the word no in any context. And it doesn't even
Speaker 1: mean that Will Smith and Jada Pinkett aren't good parents.
Speaker 1: It just means it's Hollywood. It just means growing up
Speaker 1: this way. It just means you're doing your best. I
Speaker 1: think Jada, Jada Pinkett, Smith, and Will Smith, regardless of
Speaker 1: what people say, it's they. They are they are, They've
Speaker 1: done their best, they continue to do their best. They
Speaker 1: seem like people doing the best they can. Are they flawed?
Speaker 1: Who isn't? So I'm not making fun of them or
Speaker 1: anything else, but oh all.
Speaker 3: All, and the fans will make fun of them all day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what I mean.
Speaker 7: I mean Era and having your let me let me
Speaker 7: hear what he has to say on one second. Sorry,
Speaker 7: being a parent and having your husband come on camera
Speaker 7: onto a show to talk about the infidelity that was
Speaker 7: committed is not doing your best as a parent. Now,
Speaker 7: people are fucking insane.
Speaker 1: That's insane. That's total insanity. And that's also somebody who
Speaker 1: you know, I think she's.
Speaker 3: She is toxic femininity.
Speaker 1: She's also a narcissist who needs all the attention and
Speaker 1: resents his fame right and all that stuff. But the
Speaker 1: loves Man.
Speaker 2: Their Sun dropped an album called twenty twenty four A
Speaker 2: Case Study of the Long Term Effects of Young Love.
Speaker 5: Twenty twenty four Case Study the Long term Effects of
Speaker 5: Young Love is really a snapshot of my mental state
Speaker 5: currently when it comes to trying to be a human
Speaker 5: and relate with people in the digital age that we
Speaker 5: live in. The mental landscapes of people are changing, and
Speaker 5: the psychology of people is changing. Want to make because
Speaker 5: some sad and it's my sadness that connects me with
Speaker 5: my community and my fans. I'm hoping that I can
Speaker 5: leave enough information behind for psychologists of the future to
Speaker 5: look back and be like, man, what was really wrong
Speaker 5: with this guy?
Speaker 2: Like there's some serious stuff that's wrong with him, Like
Speaker 2: what is it?
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 5: Importantly, with the crime, I just think that's just fill
Speaker 5: up with water. If you don't think people will just
Speaker 5: fill it with water and drove it from the inside.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So apparently his mental state, this kid, this young
Speaker 1: kid who seems rather lost and certainly without a lot
Speaker 1: of objective perspective. He thinks that psychologists are going to
Speaker 1: use him as a case study and be really interested
Speaker 1: with what was wrong with him? What was wrong with
Speaker 1: this guy is such a mystery. We could learn a
Speaker 1: lot about the human brain if we study this kid.
Speaker 1: What's his name?
Speaker 3: Jaden?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jaden, Wow, Jada Jaden. She's yeah, she doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like she's self involved at all. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's amazing how it doesn't serve you.
Speaker 1: That's a of course you're sad because you are your
Speaker 1: own God, and that's what that's the lesson of youth.
Speaker 1: You'll learn.
Speaker 2: Yes, So the sentiment that he expressed was simplistic and lacking.
Speaker 3: Depth of any kind.
Speaker 2: Really, no statement made whatsoever. Our psychology is changing as
Speaker 2: we interface with the digital landscape.
Speaker 3: Got it, thank you.
Speaker 2: But also the interviewer asked him quite an important question,
Speaker 2: why is it important to cry?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Crying is a very very important thing. It's it's spiritual irrigation.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful, beautiful say irrigation.
Speaker 1: Way better answer. Spiritual irrigation is a much better answer
Speaker 1: that it's also it's also what you said is nothing,
Speaker 1: but I like it. It sounds it's a good twist
Speaker 1: of words, but it's nothing. But yes, otherwise you'll fill
Speaker 1: up with water and drown from the inside. Well that's
Speaker 1: even more poetic.
Speaker 3: Right right.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if it was dumb or poetic,
Speaker 2: but if you look at a psychological wound to be
Speaker 2: a grief or trauma, and you treat it like a
Speaker 2: physical wound, crying is an important part of the healing process.
Speaker 2: You cannot dress a wound without cleaning it first, irrigating
Speaker 2: it first. So this kid's just a fucking idiot. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Well, he's it's what happens with power when you get
Speaker 1: when you have zero pushback in your life, you've never
Speaker 1: heard the word no. You've always been full, you've always
Speaker 1: been well slept, and you've always been indulged to the
Speaker 1: end degree. Anyone can be corrupted that way. Anyone could
Speaker 1: be that. Anyone, especially you get older, you realize, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we all have pieces of that that in us.
Speaker 2: Now, let's segue to environments that truly harden right, because
Speaker 2: he has been in a ball pit his entire life.
Speaker 2: I saw this video and I just wanted to bring
Speaker 2: this in and get your commentary on it. To think
Speaker 2: about this being just the daily cup of coffee for
Speaker 2: polar bears, that this is just.
Speaker 3: How they live.
Speaker 1: Damn, look at that, Look at those waves. Look at
Speaker 1: that just jumping from lily pad to lily pad and
Speaker 1: looking for seals. Always hungry polar bears. By the way,
Speaker 1: for all you global warming people, have doubled in their
Speaker 1: population I think since two thousand and six. Good because
Speaker 1: they put some restrictions on hunting. Oh yeah, the globe
Speaker 1: was supposed to be killing them and it turned apparently
Speaker 1: it's not. However, Yeah, they are. Look at that, Look
Speaker 1: at the waves, look at that, damn, because what is it?
Speaker 1: The Arctic is basically a sea, or is it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the Arctic. It's not Antarctica. It's the Arctic, a
Speaker 1: c It's amazing if if you like walking on water, dude,
Speaker 1: the cooking for food.
Speaker 2: The composure that that animal has in that environment, which
Speaker 2: that environment sucks.
Speaker 1: Well, it's just why they called the polar bear the
Speaker 1: christ dog in Christian circles in the Inuit.
Speaker 2: All right, So we had a Al Smith dinner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so great. I mean, you gotta love Trump for
Speaker 1: his humor. He's got a great sense of humor. And
Speaker 1: I think he's ahead. I think he's going to win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, come give me just really quickly.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry that I'm talking so much like Kamala.
Speaker 2: Harris sits down with Brett Bear and he asks, if
Speaker 2: you've made any mistakes I know, with immigration.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has.
Speaker 2: A litany a very very easy to find data and statistics.
Speaker 1: Six million people have come in.
Speaker 3: Proving that there have been mistakes made.
Speaker 2: She says no, and I'm confused.
Speaker 1: Well, no, she actually blamed Donald Trump and the Republicans
Speaker 1: for not passing a bipartisan immigration bill that was totally
Speaker 1: unacceptable to anyone who believes in strong borders. So don't
Speaker 1: don't blame you. You put out a bill, you presented
Speaker 1: a bill that was complete horseshit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it wasn't complete. Horseshit. It's akin to Reagan
Speaker 2: calling the Iranians and saying, don't release the hostages. I
Speaker 2: want to be uh, I want to be Carter in
Speaker 2: an election, but.
Speaker 1: Now that's absolutely not true. Have you seen have you
Speaker 1: seen the bullet points to the to the bill. Bring
Speaker 1: it up and you'll be like, oh, you can see
Speaker 1: why it was unacceptable. And Trump said it at the time.
Speaker 2: Well if it was unacceptable, then why did so many
Speaker 2: Republicans want to vote on it.
Speaker 1: The main point is that the bill, I mean, the
Speaker 1: border policies that the Biden Harris administration dismantled, is why
Speaker 1: so many people came over the border.
Speaker 2: Yes, So, so when she says we haven't made any mistakes,
Speaker 2: I'm confused about why the DNC keeps running candidates that
Speaker 2: speak like aliens. I don't understand why presenting as fallible
Speaker 2: is such a weakness. I don't understand why saying yes,
Speaker 2: we made mistakes is such a silver bullet. It's a
Speaker 2: human thing to do.
Speaker 1: But she's not. She's just not an honest person, and
Speaker 1: she's not in my opinion, she doesn't sound like an
Speaker 1: intelligent person. And if she is intelligence, she's certainly not
Speaker 1: a confident person. She cannot speak off the cuff. She's
Speaker 1: just not a statesman. Sorry, you know, I never liked her,
Speaker 1: didn't like her back during the Kavanaugh hearings. The way
Speaker 1: she treated Justice Kavanaugh to me was already an outrage
Speaker 1: and unfair. And she just like she was the worst
Speaker 1: of the woke in that. You know.
Speaker 2: Well, and Donald Trump is not a statesman either, But
Speaker 2: Donald Trump represents a rhetoric that is at least different
Speaker 2: than the Hillary Clinton Kamala Harris isms of the modern
Speaker 2: Democratic Party, which is such a revolting well.
Speaker 1: As Bobby Kennedy Robert Kennedy said, Junior said the Democrat
Speaker 1: I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party left me.
Speaker 1: And Tulsey gabbartt said the same thing, and I agree,
Speaker 1: it's impossible.
Speaker 2: So there were a lot of hilarious so much from
Speaker 2: this gaff Again, First.
Speaker 6: Ben has been referred to as the Catholic met gallant.
Speaker 6: You know, this event has been referred to as the
Speaker 6: Catholic met galap of Americans identified as Catholic Catholics will
Speaker 6: be a key demographic in every battle ground state. I'm sorry,
Speaker 6: why is Vice President Harris not here? I mean, consider this.
Speaker 6: This is a room full of Catholics and Jews in
Speaker 6: New York City. This is a layup for the Democratic nominee.
Speaker 6: I mean, in her defense, I mean she did find
Speaker 6: time to appear on the View Howard Stern, Colbert and
Speaker 6: the longtime staple of campaigning to call her daddy podcast.
Speaker 1: Save Humor, Save Humor. But good, this is the best.
Speaker 4: There's a group called white Dudes for Harris. Have you
Speaker 4: seen this? White dude for Harris? Anybody know I some
Speaker 4: of you here? White dudes doesn't sound like it, But
Speaker 4: I'm not worried about them at all because their wives
Speaker 4: and their wives lovers are bull voting for me.
Speaker 1: Savage, savage, it's so savage. Come on, you gotta love
Speaker 1: this dude. No, but he's so funny. Man Trump delivers
Speaker 1: profanity below the belt, digs at Catholic charity baget. Okay,
Speaker 1: oh look, Washington Post not happy fuck off Washington Post.
Speaker 1: Fucking you. You've lost half your readership in four years.
Speaker 1: You lost seventy million dollars last year. Go fuck yourself.
Speaker 1: Nobody reads your bullshit articles anyway, So see you see
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 2: We also talk about how hot these women are, like
Speaker 2: so hot.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't see from here.
Speaker 3: And then also so hot, this is so hot.
Speaker 1: It's a Catholic. It's a Catholic.
Speaker 3: My god, please.
Speaker 1: These are these are fine, upstanding Catholic and Jewish women,
Speaker 1: probably married. All right, Okay, there we go.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: Danica Patrick tweeted.
Speaker 1: This testical injuries in women's sports. God blessed you. Uh dank,
Speaker 1: God bless you. That's hilarious. That's fucking hilarious. Testical injuries
Speaker 1: and women's sports. Yeah, we've lost our mind. I will
Speaker 1: continue to say it. It is, it's actually and it's
Speaker 1: actually something I it's a voting issue for me. If
Speaker 1: you if you stand with trans men, if you stand
Speaker 1: with men in women's sports, then you're essentially my enemy.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think you're a fucking crazy person. And
Speaker 1: I think that you. I can guarantee I disagree with
Speaker 1: you on everything from your COVID policy to your economic policy,
Speaker 1: to everything. So yeah, it's pretty easy to tell, and
Speaker 1: I can also probably get a sense of what your
Speaker 1: IQ is. You dumb fuck this. I'm kind of harsh
Speaker 1: right now. I'm sorry. WHOA The US is invest getting
Speaker 1: an unauthorized release of classified documents on Israel's Iran attack plan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Iran is seeing this as an opportunity to dismantle Hezbolah.
Speaker 1: They're even hitting Christian towns, which were always uh Israel.
Speaker 1: Israel's hitting Hesbela, even in Christian townships which were always
Speaker 1: saved from the Israelis because the Christians healthy Israelis in
Speaker 1: the civil war against the Muslim I think minority, are majority,
Speaker 1: so it's it's surprising, but a lot of the Hesbela
Speaker 1: fighters are I guess shacked up in Christian townships. So
Speaker 1: they're killing a lot of people in Beirut. And now
Speaker 1: they're going to go after Iran. Interesting and the US
Speaker 1: is telling them not to hit their nuclear sites and
Speaker 1: their energy depos which is surprising. I was like, that
Speaker 1: would be where you would want to go. Don't hit
Speaker 1: residential neighborhoods. But they want to do something. I think
Speaker 1: they want to take out the leadership. And I think
Speaker 1: a lot of Iranians secretly, because all of them, like
Speaker 1: seventy percent of them under thirty, secretly would love to
Speaker 1: see the regime get taken out.
Speaker 2: I don't think not so secretly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I bet you the Israelis have a
Speaker 1: lot of help on the inside about this, And there's
Speaker 1: probably an underground movement of who's going to take over
Speaker 1: when that regime? Now that's very very dicey, it's dangerous work,
Speaker 1: but who knows.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: Did we talk about the Abraham Accords not enough as
Speaker 2: a domino effect having a domino effect to this, No, Listen.
Speaker 2: I do think that that Trump is less hawkish than
Speaker 2: modern neoliberals. But I also don't think that it's gone
Speaker 2: stated enough that the Abraham Accords were a similar kind
Speaker 2: of provocation as what happened with NATO and Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Well, didn't the Abraham Accords also have Israel and Staudi
Speaker 1: Arabia in that as signing a peace treaty that was
Speaker 1: part of it. There were a lot of positive things
Speaker 1: for the first time that seemed to be practical and
Speaker 1: less ideological.
Speaker 2: Right, But the geopolitical practicality of it was to embolden
Speaker 2: the Sunni position on the global stage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was going to say that one of
Speaker 1: the things that people always got wrong when dealing with
Speaker 1: the Middle East was having a misunderstanding or underestimating the
Speaker 1: Sunni Shia divide in the Middle East. Remember Iran a
Speaker 1: Shia Muslim, and it's a little bit like that. What's
Speaker 1: the difference. I could go into it, but rather it's
Speaker 1: almost like Protestant Catholic, you know, but the Shia. The
Speaker 1: idea is, if you're a cleric, you have to be
Speaker 1: able to prove your blood lineage all the way back
Speaker 1: to the prophet. And there are other things, but for
Speaker 1: the most part, that would be a large part of it.
Speaker 1: And the Shia and Sunni divide really happened after Muhammad
Speaker 1: Ali I think that was his name, uh Uh Mohammed's
Speaker 1: grandson was murdered by a separatist somebody who disagreed with
Speaker 1: this idea in in Uh I think he was praying
Speaker 1: in the in the mosque, and as a result, that
Speaker 1: created this divide which said essentially, hey, yeah, it's Muhammad
Speaker 1: Ali right he was killed and it was like, you
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to prove a blood lineage, you should just
Speaker 1: be a follower of the Sunna. You know, they're therefore
Speaker 1: the Sunni. So it's it's it's very easy for people
Speaker 1: to break into these groups.
Speaker 2: So what's happening right now seems like a a kind
Speaker 2: of defensive posturing or an offensive posturing too, uh And
Speaker 2: and emboldening of the Sunni position on the global stage.
Speaker 2: If you look at Iran and Hesbala, they're both Shia Muslims.
Speaker 1: That's right. And the Palestinians are Sunni, the Saudi Arabians
Speaker 1: are Sunni. A lot of the a lot of the
Speaker 1: Gulf State is Sunni. So yes, so that that's always
Speaker 1: been That's always been a thing. It's always been. It's
Speaker 1: always been a very serious divide. It was a divide
Speaker 1: in Iraq. The British took advantage of it, and then
Speaker 1: the British were actually ignorant to it. So when they
Speaker 1: were creating these these countries like Iraq, they were putting
Speaker 1: Sunnis and Shia together. If you remember Saddam Mussin uh
Speaker 1: Gamal Abdul Nasser uh And and the other pan Arabists,
Speaker 1: the pan Arabists were trying to put bring all Arabs
Speaker 1: together under a secular banner, under the banner of Arab,
Speaker 1: not not Islam, not Sunni, not she because they recognized
Speaker 1: how tribal and fractious the Arab people's were based on
Speaker 1: those ancient divides, and they said, if we're ever going
Speaker 1: to be, you know, players on the main stage and
Speaker 1: a military might in a nation state, people take seriously,
Speaker 1: we should be pan Arabists. We should be like, if
Speaker 1: you're Arabic and you speak Arabic, then then you know
Speaker 1: that's the country. But of course human beings aren't that way.
Speaker 1: They're like, I'm Iraqi, I'm Shia, I'm tribe, this is
Speaker 1: my tribe. I'm loyal to my clan. And it never worked.
Speaker 1: And by the way, it didn't especially didn't work because
Speaker 1: the British and the Americans and the French weren't going
Speaker 1: to allow it to work. They were like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: and got it with the Ottomans.
Speaker 2: It just seems to me like this whole thing has
Speaker 2: been kicked off by Iran's kind of death throws as
Speaker 2: a Shia minority.
Speaker 1: Wait you say that again.
Speaker 3: The whole thing seemed to me. And I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 2: Absolving Israel of their part to play, but the powder
Speaker 2: Keg gets lit with October seventh, financed by Iran. It
Speaker 2: seems like the whole conflict began with Iran's death. Throws
Speaker 2: to the Abraham Accords, which saw them as an irrelevant
Speaker 2: faction of Islam.
Speaker 1: Yeah what, I don't understand what you said there?
Speaker 2: Say that again, Okay, So the Abraham Accords gets signed,
Speaker 2: strengthening Saudi Arabia's position and the Sunni position on the
Speaker 2: global stage. Iran is left in the dust as a
Speaker 2: Shia nation state. They finance hamas well.
Speaker 1: Of course, they don't want to see Israel and Saudi
Speaker 1: Arabia right treaty at all.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 1: It's a big, big problem for them. It further isolates them.
Speaker 1: And and but Iran's always been rather isolated, They've never
Speaker 1: been remember Iranians, Persians and Arabs are very different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is no people think that they're the same. Farsi
Speaker 1: and Arabic are completely different languages, totally different cultures, totally
Speaker 1: different people. If you ever called a Farsi an Arab
Speaker 1: or an Arab of Farsi, I mean on Persian, they
Speaker 1: would be I mean, are you out of your mind?
Speaker 1: Babylon and Persia were two very different empires.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, so yeah, insulting.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, you know you had this conversation with Reza. Do
Speaker 2: you not see the left tends to bend over backwards
Speaker 2: in its defense of Islamic countries.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's true. I would say this,
Speaker 1: I would say the left, especially now with Gaza. See,
Speaker 1: there's a tendency to say when you are protesting against
Speaker 1: what Israel's doing in Hama and Gaza, there's a tenancy
Speaker 1: for people to say they're pro hama Us, they're pro terrorists,
Speaker 1: and they're anti Jewish or the anti Semitic. I think
Speaker 1: that's very unfair. I think what a lot of people,
Speaker 1: for the first time in our history are seeing is
Speaker 1: civilians are getting the actual imagery and thus the horror
Speaker 1: of war on their phones. And war is if you
Speaker 1: talk to people who've been in war, and I've not,
Speaker 1: but I've had conversations with people who've talked about war.
Speaker 1: And the first thing you talk to a real warrior
Speaker 1: like Tim Kennedy or somebody, and you say to them, hey,
Speaker 1: was that movie like the way it really was? And
Speaker 1: you know what they'll tell you. They'll go not at all, dude,
Speaker 1: because real war is just a lot. You see a
Speaker 1: lot of dead children, You see a lot of very
Speaker 1: wounded children. You see children that are or that are
Speaker 1: crying over there, the obliterated bodies of their parents and
Speaker 1: vice versa. That's what you see and for the first time,
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what happened in Iraq. That's what happened
Speaker 1: in Iraq, Afghanistan, and that happened, and that's happening since
Speaker 1: the beginning of time. And real warriors who've been there,
Speaker 1: whether it's Vietnam or whatever, will tell you that. It's
Speaker 1: why they probably don't talk about it. It's probably why
Speaker 1: it's unmentionable and unspeakable, because if you've not been through it,
Speaker 1: you would never understand it. It's not something you can
Speaker 1: read about. It's not something you can hear about. You
Speaker 1: had to live it, smell it, see it, feel it,
Speaker 1: and hear it. And you don't know that unless you've
Speaker 1: been in the fucking muck, in the blood strewn round,
Speaker 1: if I may quote Shakespeare, and that's what I do
Speaker 1: about war, because I've never been to war. But now
Speaker 1: you're seeing on TikTok and on your Instagram feed, you
Speaker 1: are seeing what war really does, and when you when
Speaker 1: you essentially level sixty to seventy percent of an area
Speaker 1: like kas Of where two and a half million people
Speaker 1: are crammed into, and by the Lancet and by American
Speaker 1: doctors and by another organization even I think the Red
Speaker 1: Cross in the UN it's far more than one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand people. It's probably closer to two hundred thousand people.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of people, especially when they're children and women. So,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever you want to say, you have to
Speaker 1: at least acknowledge that it's okay to be horrified. It's
Speaker 1: okay to say, hey, is there a better way to
Speaker 1: do this? Hey? Can we not do this to this extent? Hey,
Speaker 1: is there a proportionality thing here? That doesn't make you
Speaker 1: anti Semitic, anti Israel, anti Zionists, It doesn't make you
Speaker 1: pro Hamas pro Palestinian. It just makes you a human
Speaker 1: being who for the first time is seeing what war
Speaker 1: really is. And my only silver lining there is maybe
Speaker 1: the next time people go, oh, guys, guys, you're going
Speaker 1: to do this again.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So it's very much isolated Israel on the world stage
Speaker 1: and even on the American stage for the first time
Speaker 1: in my life. You can't control the narrative anymore. The
Speaker 1: Americans controlled the narrative with our press pools, with our
Speaker 1: censorship and every war. And the justification was, you don't
Speaker 1: want to ruin the morale of the fighters there on
Speaker 1: the ground with this imagery. We're not ready, we can't
Speaker 1: handle it. So you never saw this stuff during Vietnam.
Speaker 1: It went through it went through censorship. You didn't see
Speaker 1: it in Iraq, you didn't see it in Afghanistan. Trust
Speaker 1: me when I say when we bombed Muscle, I think
Speaker 1: the well I happen to know in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: in some cases, when you called in an airstrike as
Speaker 1: an American, you were allowed to kill up to thirty
Speaker 1: five civilians to one combatant. That went down to seven,
Speaker 1: and then finally I think it was one to one
Speaker 1: because they started to realize this is not working, this
Speaker 1: is not good. But just make no mistake, every country
Speaker 1: has that quota, and you can't prosecute a war without it,
Speaker 1: which is why when warriors say you sure you want
Speaker 1: to do this? When Trump, I mean when Bush w
Speaker 1: and his his team of neocons, none of whom had
Speaker 1: been in war, none of whom had ever shot a gun,
Speaker 1: probably none of whom had ever done a contact sport.
Speaker 1: The only one who was a warrior was Colin Powell,
Speaker 1: and he was against it. Bush's father was mysteriously and
Speaker 1: suspiciously very quiet about the invasion of Iraq because he
Speaker 1: didn't agree with it. Most people that knew something about
Speaker 1: geopolitics knew it was going to be a fucking shit show.
Speaker 1: But people like Richard Pearl and William Crystal and Condelleza
Speaker 1: Rice and Dick Cheney and all the other neocons like
Speaker 1: Douglas Feith and Paul Wolfowitz and for that matter, Donald Rumsfeldt,
Speaker 1: who I think it was an Air Force guy. They
Speaker 1: were all gung home, all gung ho.
Speaker 2: So sorry, too much money to be made not to
Speaker 2: be gung ho.
Speaker 1: Yeah. At how many lives a million? How many of
Speaker 1: them are innocent? Many of them more children?
Speaker 2: Yeah, one point one point one million.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, just that. But they're brown, so it's fine.
Speaker 1: Oh but they're Arab and we always say that, right,
Speaker 1: But they're Arab and they they look at they look
Speaker 1: at death differently. No, they don't know, they don't take
Speaker 1: it for somebody to live there. No, those villages are
Speaker 1: very tight in those communities. All they have is each other.
Speaker 1: All they have is each other, believe me.
Speaker 3: But okay, we went down.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to ask you, like, there there is
Speaker 2: a lot of defensive Islam on the left. There always
Speaker 2: has been, Sam Harris.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess there becomes this like, you know, you
Speaker 1: don't want to be Islamophobic.
Speaker 2: Sam Harris and Bill Maher have constantly been just lanced
Speaker 2: with with slings and arrows for their criticisms of the
Speaker 2: Islamic world. Right now, most of the Islamic world is
Speaker 2: not run by radical theocracies the way that Afghanistan and
Speaker 2: Iran are, but a good majority of the Muslim world
Speaker 2: are still run by pretty strict monarchies, which is in
Speaker 2: a very fucking antiquated way of governance.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you can also lay a lot of that
Speaker 1: blame at the British, at the British door. You know,
Speaker 1: the colonialists who are British in the Middle East. They
Speaker 1: set up in Jordan, for example, that was the Hasham.
Speaker 1: There were Hashemites, they were originally from Saudi Arabia and
Speaker 1: they set that that King Hussein was set up by
Speaker 1: the British and the Jordanians did not recognize that particular
Speaker 1: that monarchy. They didn't recognize Hussein as their king. He
Speaker 1: was a Hashemite, he was from a different clan, he
Speaker 1: wasn't even from there. So the British did a lot
Speaker 1: of that. The British created something called Iraq. Didn't exist
Speaker 1: before the Brits came along with matchsticks on a map.
Speaker 3: So fun times.
Speaker 1: Uh, Chris Roberts, those moose would kill you, Brian. Don't
Speaker 1: mess with him, Chris. They would kill most people unless
Speaker 1: you understand animal behavior, unless you understand how to redirect energy.
Speaker 1: And I study moose. Hop keto, so.
Speaker 3: Dude, fuck you man?
Speaker 1: What fuck you?
Speaker 2: And I knew you were going to do that too.
Speaker 2: Why you constantly shiit on hop keto even though the
Speaker 2: most powerful principle is your power plus my power equals
Speaker 2: my I.
Speaker 1: Do shit on kitoo, but my master used to make
Speaker 1: us go out.
Speaker 3: Don't say my master.
Speaker 2: It's so insulting to somebody who actually has had an
Speaker 2: hop keto Master Master song, the Great Master song Tiger
Speaker 2: Marine in South Korea.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable joke. You're you're you're really pissing me.
Speaker 1: Okay, dude, but I'm just saying my my up Gido
Speaker 1: master my Kito sense used to always say, oh today
Speaker 1: we don't fight each other. Today you go out. And
Speaker 1: he would take us too. We were He would take
Speaker 1: us to Spain and throw us into a bull ring.
Speaker 1: He would take us in the wilderness when the moose
Speaker 1: were rutting, and would would would would literally throw me
Speaker 1: at the moose. Okay. And we went to Africa and
Speaker 1: there was there were several rhinos while while in mating season,
Speaker 1: and I remember, I'll never forget when we were also
Speaker 1: there and he threw me in front of Black Death,
Speaker 1: the water buffalo, and he made me clang. I had
Speaker 1: to clang blocks of wood together and walk in aggressive
Speaker 1: matter toward the buffalo. And I knew it was going
Speaker 1: to come at me. And in every one of those
Speaker 1: times they would bear down and I had to learn
Speaker 1: how to shuck one way and then cut the other way.
Speaker 1: And trust me when I tell you, I tore a
Speaker 1: lot of my shirt and even my pants. I came
Speaker 1: very close to dying. But thank God for how kiddo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you make you guys read Hemingway on the
Speaker 2: plane over?
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't read Hemingway. I lived it. Let you
Speaker 1: guys sit with that couch, I Love You. When Trump
Speaker 1: was on THEO Vaughn, he was very open and discussed
Speaker 1: dealing with his brother, the alcoholic. When Kamala was on
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club, she said she listened to Tupaca minimum
Speaker 1: of five years before her first album in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1: His first album in nineteen ninety one. It's probably say
Speaker 1: Trump will perform much better on the j R. E
Speaker 1: than Kamala. Trump used to frequent Howard Stern as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course. I can't believe Kamala's gonna go on Rogan
Speaker 1: because Rogan, Rogan will give her a lot of rope,
Speaker 1: but Rogan will ask her in important questions, and she's
Speaker 1: not gonna get away with redirecting things. He's gonna he's gonna,
Speaker 1: I know Joe, he'll probably he'll get annoyed if that
Speaker 1: happens and he'll start going, wait a minute. And if
Speaker 1: I know Joe, Joe's probably said to them, you're not
Speaker 1: allowed to censor and asked me, you tell me what
Speaker 1: questions to ask. I'm not going to do that. So
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he will, but my guess is he's
Speaker 1: going to ask important questions or maybe just have a
Speaker 1: conversation with her. Joe's very good at making everybody look
Speaker 1: really human, so could be the best thing for Jillian.
Speaker 1: See why I love moose fights frigging insane savages. You
Speaker 1: all remember Nato Flipper spygate dolphins fitted with cameras twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: Hey Jillian, see why you're all over the place. Huh man,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think they they they were using dolphins,
Speaker 1: uh with they were fitting them with spyware.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he trained them.
Speaker 2: It was also this weird story that I didn't know
Speaker 2: he needed.
Speaker 3: He was all over the place.
Speaker 1: He just used sea drones. Yeah, you you were a
Speaker 1: little high there.
Speaker 2: But it was It's cool to There's there's this sor
Speaker 2: of people fitting putting robot tuna and robot dolphins and
Speaker 2: robot fish into the ocean to spy on pods of dolphins.
Speaker 2: And dolphins are so fucking smart they just pick them
Speaker 2: out instantaneously and either try to kill them or are
Speaker 2: at least curious about what the f they are because
Speaker 2: they can just spot it from a mile away.
Speaker 3: They're too smart.
Speaker 1: Love it, Maxist. My biggest worry about the upcoming election
Speaker 1: is if the Dems have thought up a way to cheat.
Speaker 1: We aren't prepared for. I keep hearing there's no way,
Speaker 1: there's no way, the use of millions of illegals to
Speaker 1: make a significant difference. But is that true? When you
Speaker 1: look at what the Dems have done line cheating, stealing,
Speaker 1: right up to the pair of attempt assassinations, there's no
Speaker 1: line they won't cross. I mean, I don't buy into
Speaker 1: that conspiracy. I think the Dems are the Dems. There
Speaker 1: are a lot of people who are half democratic, fully democratic,
Speaker 1: far left, the republican, light democratic, heavy, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't you know, I think that there are I think
Speaker 1: these two lon asas Lesons, we're probably cuckoo birds, as
Speaker 1: most are. I don't think there was a I don't
Speaker 1: think that the Clintons or somebody was paying them or
Speaker 1: you know, brainwashing them. This is not this is not
Speaker 1: three Days of the Condor here.
Speaker 2: A pretty gay thing to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been going for twenty five minutes, bro.
Speaker 1: That's it. Forty five Yeah, yuk, yucks. Thank you for
Speaker 1: coming out and Calgary. I had a great weekend. Buffalo, Buffalo,
Speaker 1: New York. I'll see you at Helium November seven, eight
Speaker 1: and nine in the meantime, I'm also at thunder Bay, Ontario.
Speaker 1: Anybody who listens this in thunder Bay, Ontario, I will
Speaker 1: be there November sixteen. Come see it, Come get some peace.