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Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me

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covering Dungeon Crawler Carl Book six, The Eye of the

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bedlam Bride, chapters sixty through sixty four. In these chapters,

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Carl has come up with an interesting plan that somehow

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is manipulating the AI, is manipulating the system. I'm not

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totally clear on how all this works. I don't think

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I'm supposed to be quite yet, but I am very

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very interested to see how this shakes out because I

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feel like the implications are kind of major. Welcome to

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spoil Me, Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha.

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Thank you very much to Michael for commissioning this episode.

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Michael isn't here today, but he may show up eventually.

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And at the moment we've got Saraphim and Rob with me,

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so appreciate you guys being here too. These are some

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really interesting like there's a lot of stuff happening here.

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That's so. I don't want to say that it's in

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conflict with what we have been told, because that's not

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really it. It's more that there are additional levels to the

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situation that we haven't been aware of, and we're getting

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a lot of information what's compelling. And I'm really curious

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about when this idea occurred to Matt Denneman, because there

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is a very clever method of having these little like

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intros to each chapter be entries from the cookbook that

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give you a heads up about certain things, and he

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doesn't use them the same way every time. It's not

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like they're always if you read about a thing that

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it's going to be oh, okay, we're about to face

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that thing, or that if we learn about how something works,

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then that is to inform us because it is still

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how it works. If anything. Sometimes he does it to

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sort of like fuck with us and get us thinking

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that a certain thing is standard and it's not, or

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to let us know that a rule has been very

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obviously and specifically changed because somebody has just told us

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that this isn't supposed to be possible. And due to that,

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there are some implications that I didn't quite pick up

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on initially, because I was sort of thinking that this

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intro is being used in a way that I, looking

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back now realized was supposed to support what it was

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that Karl was saying, but I thought was meant to

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indicate that the rules had been changed somehow, and we'll

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get there. I swear I'm getting to the point here,

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but I just wanted to mention it because it's a very,

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in my opinion, interesting use of these intros. And I

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wonder how it was like, because so much of what

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this story is is us finding out about changes in

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standards for a variety of reasons. Some of them are

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allegedly I'm gonna say humanitarian, even though not everybody's human,

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but you get what I'm saying, like to be a

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sort of like civil rights issue. Some of them are

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business issues. There's just a lot of different reasons why

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certain changes are made, and I can't help but think

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that maybe having Mordecai tell us everything was just starting

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to get like, one, a little boring, and two, it

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was unlikely that they would allow Mordecai to tell them

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all that this is giving us or to know in

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the first place, so he had to find a bit

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of a way around it and also find a way

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to give Carl information that he shouldn't have access to.

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And I still really wonder what all the deal is

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with the cookbook, because it feels like something that shouldn't

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even be allowed in the game, and it is being permitted,

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and there's even things that like the AI is saying

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that he can't copy paste, so there's like there's something

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going on here with what all he is like, you

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know what I'm saying. And I just there was a

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whole thing in the last section with him talking about

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how I really need to keep in mind that the

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AI isn't my friend, that it's not like on our side.

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It is against the same people that we are against,

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but that doesn't really mean the same thing. And yet

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I am so sorry, guys, I can't help but still

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a little bit fall into the trap of feeling like

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maybe the AI is kind of on our side, and

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I don't. I don't really think it is. I don't really,

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but there's a bit of me kind of being like,

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but what if it is? Though? What if it is?

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And it's simply on your side in a way that

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is not you can't cluck because it's doing it in

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such a weird way because it's not a person and

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it doesn't feel toward you, and so it's doing things

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that are in the long run best for you as

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a crawler, but that in the immediate moment feel cruel

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and terrible. You know, what I'm saying. I don't. I

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don't know, guys, I might just be making it up,

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but I just want I want the AI to be

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on our side so bad. I think that's really what

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it is, is just this sort of sense of like

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I want to feel like there is we have some

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kind of advantage, and maybe I'm just fooling myself with it,

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you know. So Chapter sixty starts with him say Kwan

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had more crap in his inventory than I did, And

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as soon as I heard that, I was like, oh shit,

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because Carl basically picks up everything he comes across that

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is pickable, ubbable, and he's got all of these different weapons,

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and instantly my thought was like, oh, he took all

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of this off the crawlers he killed, Like every weapon

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that he's got is really weird and specific. And Carl

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gives him like lets him keep the ring on his person,

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but we don't. He keeps Kwan's arm and says that

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he's not really sure why he did it, and I

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am not sure either. I am not mad at it,

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but I like, I feel like this is the time

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to put his arm down and be like, all right,

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you're all in one piece again. Rest in peace, lol,

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But you get what I'm saying. I feel also that

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not enough has been mentioned about what happens to their

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bodies after they die, Like we have had crawlers that

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are brought back and recycled in different parts of the game,

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and you know, not crawlers. Actually, I think that's against

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the rules that they can't do it with crawlers, but

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they can do it with people who were in the collapse.

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Technically not supposed to, but like, right, you're if you're

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on the surface, you're not supposed to. But I think

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if you died in the collapse, your fair game. So

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I don't know if this like what I keep imagining

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is in the Hunger Games when there's just a hovercraft

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that comes along and scoops their body up and takes

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it away, you know, and just realizing, like, I don't

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know what happens to these bodies, because it pretty much

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seems like folks are just sort of left where they

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fall and then the level collapse and you know whatever,

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it's like not nobody cares about it. So Carl mentions

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here about how he had thought about putting on the

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Ring of Divine Suffering in order to gain some points

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from Ren or Kulan, but that if they, like were

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notified that he had marked them, maybe they would change

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their minds about how to handle the whole thing. I

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tend to think that they would not have changed their minds.

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In fact, if I were one of them, I think

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I probably would have told him to do that. If

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I'm doing this in the hopes that he's going to

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make it through, I think I'd probably want to give

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him every advantage. The only reason that I might not

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is the suspicion that this ring is doing him harm somehow,

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and I don't have enough to support that, so I

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think I might just tell him go for it, you know.

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And this is when Wren is saying goodbye and Donah

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is just like, wait, what are you doing? And later

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Donut makes a few comments about the fact that Ren

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like confessed to her misdeeds as a cheater, and it

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was just it's kind of hitting for me, like Donut

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Knowsren was just saying that, like, Donut's not a fucking idiot,

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you know. And I think she's a little bit flipped

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out and is using this as a as a mask

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to cover how she's feeling, because she's feeling kind of complicated,

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you know. So he uses Samantha to grip ont Donuh

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and bring her to him, and Donut has the Golden

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Player killer skull because Quantad made it back onto the

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top ten. I don't remember how much gold she gets

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as a ward, but it's got to be pretty substantial.

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Between that and the fact that he had like five

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million gold on him, they are doing pretty well gold

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wise right now, which only means that Embrus is going

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to get an even bigger cut and she's going to

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be very very pissed about it. But we don't talk

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about that right now. The whole thing with all of

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these zombies proliferating and the demon thing is beginning to

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spread across the world. It's definitely worse where they are,

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but everybody is starting to like encounter weird shit, and

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they have Emani and she is watching this club Vanquisher

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entrance and seeing the way that the guys in there

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are sticking their heads out and like occasionally they're firing

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off at like with their various weapons at some of

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these these demon zombies, and eventually she sees a few

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of them get ragged down and it's just like, holy shit,

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and what I thought was interesting is Carl says that

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Mordecai told him there is a sort of collected collective

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mind with the zombies, so if just one spots you,

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they all start to come in your direction, which is

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it's the sort of thing that isn't specifically really like

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always mentioned in uh, what's the word I want? When

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you have like zombie properties, Usually what it'll be is

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that like other zombies, notice one zombie changing course, and

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it will be a sort of like tidal reaction, the

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way that a school of fish all turning in a

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certain direction happens. But this being explicitly they share a mind,

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is very specific. It's I don't know. I think that

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that's kind of a cool idea, and by cool, I

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mean terrible because I don't like it and I don't

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want it. But this is probably something that we can exploit.

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I feel like the more information we have always is better, right,

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So let's see, he truly had a lot of weapons

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on him. I wondered if his class sergeant at arms

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had something to do with the reason why he kept

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it all, which is a really interesting idea. I'm curious

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about that. I don't think we'll ever find out, And

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This is when he's talking to Mordecai about these Eye

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in the Sky scrolls and whether or not he should

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use them, and he's like, well, I would keep them

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in your inventory because they're pretty rare, and he's got five,

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which is sitting pretty for right now, and also says

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to keep the tummy acre in his inventory. You couldn't

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down the stairs with Mango before because you didn't have

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a pet carrier. This guy will be fine as long

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as you keep him boxed up. You can try bonding

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with him later. He'll be a great pet for you

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should you decide to keep him. But you have too

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much on your plate right now to deal with trying

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to keep a level one pet alive, especially if it

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has an undid weakness. And Wren made a mistake by

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saying what his weaknesses are out loud. The faction guys

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aren't going to be spying, but we aren't supposed to

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be spying. But we both know that's bullshit and that

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didn't even occur to me. That's just saying what all

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of his current weaknesses are was a really bad call.

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And it's like a part of me wants to be like, oh,

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maybe she was a misdirect, but she says what one

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of them is and then stabs him with that thing

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made out of that weakendess. So like at least one

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of them she was telling the truth, and I suspect

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she was telling the truth about all of them, which

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does really suck. I will go on record as saying personally,

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I really want the tummy Acre to be part of

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the team. I love Mongo, y'all know I do. He

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is very doglike and that's fun. I feel like the

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Tummyager could bring a really different energy, like a toddler,

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which can be very funny. It's like, I understand the

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danger because apparently they want to eat dinosaurs. Samantha suggests

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that maybe if they grow up together it won't be

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like that. I tend to agree with Samantha, which means

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I feel like that's got to be wrong, Like that

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was where my head was at as well. But I

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find herself unreliable in terms of her judgment that I've

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got to think that that can't be it. It can't

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be that simple. I don't know, though, We'll see, we'll see.

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And there's also this moment where Mordecai says, have you

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thought about what you're gonna do with the key, Carl says,

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once again, I'm going to give it to Imani, and

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Mordecai says she's not gonna take it, and Carl's says,

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Ellie will convince her, and Mordecai doesn't answer, And later

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on I really enjoyed Imani being like Karl, Donna told

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me about your fucking dumbass plan to use a bone.

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We're not doing that. You need bones for they're there

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for a reason. And honestly, considering that she's like a healer,

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which I had forgotten, it does make very much sense

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that she would be like, no, you're not voluntarily giving

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up a random bone, are you fucking high? So yeah,

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this is when sister Innees reaches out and she says,

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I know you have the last key. The door you

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seek is ni Iglesia de Jesus dee Miramar. It's a

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holy place. I've preyed on it, and I know what

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I must do. I can't let you in. If you

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open that door, it will be the end of everything

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they told me. So this hell you see is only

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a sampling of what awaits us because of our sin.

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This sucks. It's you know, it just I said this before,

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but the fact that she's like, everything here isn't real

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until it's demons, which I already think are real and

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therefore that's the real thing is the most annoying confirmation

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bias sort of shit. And then there's this like somebody

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out there who seems to be exploiting her mental illness

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and her like kind of paranoia. You know, it's just

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a really gross tact to take, and it's really interesting because, like,

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I don't know how many of y'all remember in I

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feel like in the very first book there is a

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moment where the concept of gods is brought up, and

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Mordecai has a sort of urgency when he's telling Carl,

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whatever gods you meet are not real. There are no

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gods in this game, which, considering what happened in his

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uh to his brother the relationship of a quote god

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in that that makes sense. Feeling really intensely about that,

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But also there was a feeling when he said it

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of like, don't be fooled, which at the time I

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was very much like, who would be fooled? We know

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none of this is real, and I sort of like

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that we have actually met someone who is fooled in

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this very specific way where it's not that she thinks

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this is real like up until this moment, and that

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this is somebody who already had been dealing with a

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mental illness that led her to think that she was

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being given signs like that. She she says something about

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how like I have to show you the way I

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showed my sisters, the way you know, all of the

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nuns that she had poisoned. So she has already been

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this person and the way that she's being played right

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now is it simultaneously makes a lot of sense and

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is really upsetting to see because this is what I

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feel has happened to a lot of very religious people

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with a tendency towards untreated mental illness in our country

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as well. And when I talk about untreated mental illness,

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this is not even really laying blame on the people

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who have it for not getting treated. Our country does

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not make getting treatment easy or affordable or like even

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accessible at all. So it kind of metastasizes into this

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weird manifestation that is a in some places can be

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like rooted in something that's real, but then turns into

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this boogeyman kind of scenario, you know. Anyway, So, you know,

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we find out about those the people, the Nebula that

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sponsored her, who are those weird guys are They are pacifist,

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but they also want the annihilation of whole groups of

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people who are eligible for the krawl to you know

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what I mean. So they would like kill all of earth,

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a real contradiction, which is sort of the name of

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the game for a lot of religions. And Carl tells

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Sister Nez yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll meet up with you,

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which of course they will not be doing. He has

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to keep her distracted for as long as he can.

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And we find out after this that she has got

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control over some of these demons in a way that

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is not in line with what we know of her abilities,

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and they think that there is somebody sponsoring a god

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that is giving her some kind of of access, you know,

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which really really sucks. I really hate this. It's also

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I don't know how long she can hold this. And

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once she breaks free, if she is near the church

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that she is threatening to destroy to keep them from

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reaching the door, then is it possible that she could

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inadvertently get that church destroyed and that door destroyed because

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she loses control over them, because as things go on,

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Carl really begins to suspect that her control over the

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situation is beginning to deteriorate. So I'm sorry, guys, there

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are so there's so much chat. But Michael says Imani

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has also consistently been one of the most self sacrificing characters.

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There was zero chance she'd take Carl and Donut's key,

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exactly the idea that he really thought she would, like,

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come now, sir, please, so's the add is the problem

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with riding a tiger's back is that you better fucking

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not get off. I never heard that, Michael, but I

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really do like that. That's a good one. So this

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part sixty one is the part that I was talking

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about in the beginning of the episode, where I was

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like thinking that this was to point out something had changed,

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and it wasn't. Even though you can sometimes move the

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platforms upon which the stairwells sit, you cannot put the

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exit portal in your inventory. You can't bring a stairwell

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into your safe room. I watched one get hit by

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an utter annihilation wand and it remained unscathed. I believe

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that means they are indestructible, and somebody confirms this and

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says in the rules manual stairwells may be gated until

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certain conditions are met, but the stairwells themselves are not

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allowed to be removed, and then rosetta. The only way

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for a crawler to move from one floor to the

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next is via a stairwell. It's an unbreakable rule. At

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the end of Faction Wars, after the Viceroy was pulled

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out their last minute victory, a portal appeared and several

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of the remaining fucks stepped within. It was all of

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them together, laughing as if they had weren't just bathing

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in each other's entrails the day before. It appeared. It

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was taking him to another part of the dungeon, some

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sort of nightclub on a different floor. They dragged several

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unwilling NPCs. A crawler tried to jump through the portal

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to save the NPCs, and he was stopped like it

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was a wall of glass. The Orc step back through

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into the remains lasted the crawler, and returned to the portal.

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The rope pulled itself within and it cut the crawler

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in half. We watched as the orc and his friends

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laughed just there on the other side of the glass.

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It was the last crawler they killed of the thousands

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who fell during that pointless game. And this is a

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hint of what we find out about the portals later,

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which at first does not seem like it makes any

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sense why somebody is bringing it up, and then it

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turns out there's a really good reason for it. But yeah,

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this I thought it was like kind of being like, oh, yeah,

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the the way to get to the stairwells. The stairwells

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themselves can't be damaged, and since that has happened, the

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rules are changing or the AI is doing something that

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previously wasn't allowed. And then I finally realized that this

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is simply saying the door to the stairwell can be

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destroyed because it isn't in itself the stairwell. It's just

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a way to get to the stairwell, which is part

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of what is at the base of Carl's idea is like,

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what if we bypassed the door and just didn't try

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to go through it that way? What if the stairwell

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exists even when the door is destroyed, and we can

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find a way to it. And that is something that like,

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I don't know how much of a giveaway it is

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that he has figured this out or if this is

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considered pretty much common knowledge that the stairwells can't be destroyed,

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and so the fact that he has put this together

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is just him connecting dots with information everybody already had

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access to. This is always the thing that I find,

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really like, something that I get caught up on is

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how likely is it that whatever Carl does at a

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given moment using information that he got from the cookbook,

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that somebody is going to put it together. That he

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got that information but via means that are against the rules.

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He is not an idiot, so I have to assume

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that he knows exactly like how far to push it

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and just what to say. We don't get to see

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a lot of that, to be honest. The way that

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he sort of will dance around some things. We'll see

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him dance around things when he's talking to Donut, really,

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but a lot of times the conversations with like Mordecai,

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specifically where he has to manipulate Mordecai into like showing

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him how to make a different kind of explosive that

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he shouldn't know about this stuff is sort of done

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off page, so anyway, it's just something that always gets

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me a little bit concerned, but I think he's mostly

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been I feel that that's going to be ultimately something

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that really bites him in the ass, though, is that

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there will be a point during which he has the

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choice to hide what his source is and allow some

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people to die, or make it very clear that he

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has access to something he shouldn't and save people's lives

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and then take a hit due to that and potentially

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lose the cookbook. I don't think that the cookbook that

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he is allowed to be like, you know, executed for

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breaking rules, because that's part of the way the game works,

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is that he has this thing. But I can imagine

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that there would be some kind of severe consequence, you know.

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So it's absolutely ridiculous. They can just break the doors

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don't set as we ran, And this is like what

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I was originally thinking, is her pointing out, oh, the

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rules are different than what they were when those people

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made those entries. So I was just really not understanding

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initially what was going on here. And as they're running

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past all of these weird zombie fish and stuff, we

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are getting some information from Karl about the various people

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across the world and the way that they are killing

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each other to try and get access to certain keys.

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That some of them were fighting a little too close

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to the actual doorway, and so while one of them

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did win and get the key, the battle actually damaged

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the door so badly that the door disappeared anyway. Like

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just it's just really really unfair. And Carl is also

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realizing that because we skipped the previous floor, there are

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way more of us left alive than they were intending.

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So probably what's going on with this seeming so unfair

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is the AI having to get back to the projected

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numbers that it was supposed to be at by killing

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a bunch of us off pretty ruthlessly on this floor.

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So when we started this floor, there'd been over thirty

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eight thousand crawlers left alive. Mordecai hadn't said anything about it,

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but sometime in the past few weeks he turned off

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the surviving number of crawlers from displaying in the personal space.

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I deliberately didn't look at it when we entered regular

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safe rooms. I didn't want to know. And yeah, this

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was actually something that I had sort of clocked myself

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as a reader that we used to get updates on

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how many remained and that we weren't. But I just

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sort of like my mental explanation was simply that Matt

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Denneman didn't want to engage on that level anymore. And

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I don't know why I thought that. I just figured,

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you know, and maybe that is the explanation for why

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he chose not to write that in you know what

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I mean, like an in world explanation, and he really did,

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as a writer, not want to engage with any more

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of that. So let's see, fewer than one thousand crawlers

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usually made it to the tenth floor. Sometimes it was zero,

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for the eleventh the average was less than ten. Very

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few chose to push on instead of making deals. That's

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the thing that I am the most interested in later on,

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is how we are going to convince people to stop

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taking deals, because that, I think is going to be

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at the core of how we begin to break things

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is we don't let them buy us off somehow. And

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it's a really easy thing to fucking say, but when

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it comes up down to it, a lot of us

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are going to be so exhausted and so angry and

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done that taking a deal. Of course, we're going to

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want to do that, you know. And it makes me

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think a lot about like our justice system system in

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the way that plea deals work. It's a really insidious

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thing because on the one hand, I can understand the

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need for it. If somebody confesses and makes it easy

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on all of us by not requiring a jury trial,

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saves us money, saves us time. If we can get

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them to do that, it would be so much easier.

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But then there are so many people who take plea

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deals who are actually innocent because it's either do this

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and be guaranteed less time at sometimes a lower security prison,

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or risk going to trial and possibly getting a lot

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more time for something that they know they didn't do.

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And they're going to serve either way, even if they

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didn't do it, they know they're nailed to the wall somehow,

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So taking the deal is the least of two evils.

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And it's really terrifying when you begin to look into

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the numbers how how prevalent plea deals are in our

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system for incarceration of innocent people and basically railroading folks

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in a way, you know. Anyway, there was an essay

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in the Cookbook by Harrot, who posited the focus of

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the fans shifted once faction wars finished. While top tier

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crawlers would have die hard followers, much of the attention

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shifted to the intrigue in scheming and positioning of the

477
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individual elites preparing for the ascendency game. The crawlers themselves

478
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,519
were treated more like sands in an hourglass. The moment

479
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:29,640
the last one died or took a deal, the ascendency

480
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,680
game would start, and the timing of that moment could

481
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:39,559
change everything. So this is the key, is like, how

482
00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:42,440
do Carl and Donut find a way into the game.

483
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:46,039
That's clearly what they have to do. They have to

484
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:50,039
make themselves part of that in some way. And I

485
00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:55,200
don't know if the stake that they have bought into

486
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,759
the ninth floor can be leveraged into something regarding that.

487
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,319
I don't know how a lot of this stuff works yet, obviously,

488
00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:07,079
but for me, that sounds like are in potentially, and

489
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:13,119
I don't know how any of that would work. So

490
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,160
ooh sorry, uh, Michael says. The problem with him trying

491
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,480
to tell anyone about the Cookbook, even to save someone else,

492
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:21,759
is that it vanishes without a trade. That's yeah, no,

493
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,119
I know that. So it's very probable people would think

494
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,519
he was lying about it to protect his real source.

495
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,279
But that's the thing, like, if he just tells them,

496
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:33,559
whether they think he is lying or not, it's not

497
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:37,160
really so much about me saying like does he tell anybody?

498
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,319
It's more does he do something that absolutely reveals for

499
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,240
sure he has access to info he shouldn't, because right

500
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,960
now everybody is thinking that he does, but they don't

501
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,720
have any real solid proof. Everything is just borderline enough

502
00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:54,920
that you could explain it by him putting pieces together

503
00:33:55,079 --> 00:34:00,119
and being like, you know, familiar with gaming and exploiting

504
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,920
those sorts of loopholes and stuff. It's just enough on

505
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,880
you know. But what happens when he decides he's like

506
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,239
got to really put himself out there as like no, yeah, okay, fine,

507
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,199
I shouldn't have this info. But if I don't make

508
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,239
this move, somebody's gonna die, you know. Michael says, I

509
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,400
don't think you can. Even the cookbook contributors either died

510
00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:27,440
or took deals, and they're among the most hardcore of crawlers.

511
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,679
Hard to see a way to convince less hardcore people

512
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:32,280
to not take deals as soon as they can, even

513
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,920
if intellectually they know that a deal is a bad one,

514
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,000
that's exactly it. It is hard, but I think that's

515
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,800
what we've got to do. Like this is the thrust

516
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,639
of what I feel is happening in these books, is

517
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:51,199
that Karl is trying to find a way to give

518
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:57,559
the Crawlers the same access to certain levels of power

519
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,760
that they haven't had access to in the past. And

520
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,679
in order to do that, you have to convince people

521
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,159
to have faith in something that it will go right

522
00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:11,559
for them. And we see that on a smaller scale

523
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,440
in this series of chapters where he has to tell

524
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,000
everybody to stop fighting each other because there's a whole

525
00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:21,039
other way that we can accomplish this thing. And they

526
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:26,519
don't know for sure. It is purely a hypothesis that

527
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:31,800
they have got to all work together to begin before

528
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,679
the AI will give them the corresponding quest. So they

529
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,199
have to to a degree take it on faith that

530
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:47,480
this will work. That's the thing that's so devastating to

531
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:50,039
me about Like in the United States, there are so

532
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:54,280
many things that we could be doing, but in order

533
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,920
to do that, we have to, like all as a group,

534
00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:02,400
decide to have faith that everybody else is going to

535
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,360
have our backs, and that if we all are in

536
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,599
this together, you know, and understandably, there are many people

537
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:12,559
who just aren't there yet. And I get it. I'm

538
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:15,719
not even saying I'm really there yet, you know. But

539
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:22,880
when you are trying to overcome a really fucked up

540
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:27,320
unfair system, and you're trying to do that by like

541
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,440
the force of your numbers and leveraging whatever position you

542
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:37,039
have means of production, for example, you have got to

543
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:40,199
be united to a certain percentage for it to work.

544
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:44,239
And there are always going to be some outliers who

545
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,559
refuse to participate, and you have to bank on the

546
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:50,840
fact that those that particular group is going to be

547
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,559
small enough that you will still succeed. And it's a

548
00:36:54,840 --> 00:37:00,360
really difficult gamble to make when if you lose literally

549
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,719
lose your home, you know, you lose everything that you

550
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,440
that you associate with, your safety and stability, and it

551
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:18,079
just it sucks, man, It's really scary. So let's see,

552
00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:21,159
he's casting a spell to get home. This is a

553
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:24,400
demon that's just launching fire into the air. It's a portal.

554
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,199
They try casting it a lot and then nothing, but

555
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,039
it doesn't work because he needs to suck a lot

556
00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:31,239
of souls in for it to work, and she says

557
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,280
like he's a big boy. A big boy needs big

558
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,559
doors and lots of souls. It'll be in the sky above,

559
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,159
not the ground, and it'll suck everything up like that

560
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,559
cute but sad metal guy you have floating in your

561
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:44,000
house that slurps up bags of potato chips and cleans.

562
00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:48,000
When Mango tinkles on the couch, he's trying to cast

563
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,480
the spell, but sister in Is is controlling him. Also,

564
00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:54,199
I don't understand is she making him cast this? No.

565
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,920
I think the doughnut looking lady isn't strong enough to

566
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,119
control him. I think she's trying to stop him, but

567
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:02,320
he's casting it anyway. She's not strong enough to be

568
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,960
even doing what she's doing now, so she's got to

569
00:38:05,039 --> 00:38:09,639
have some help. And this is when there's the conversation

570
00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:14,360
with Mordecai where it becomes clear that somebody is likely

571
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:21,159
sponsoring this particular god that is, you know, working with

572
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:25,679
her somehow. So let's see. Oh yeah, this is the

573
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,599
part where Carl's talking to Himani and he says, a

574
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:32,519
while back, I locked the stripper guys in the training arcade,

575
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,920
but probably pretty pissed about it. By now. They're helping

576
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,079
me with something for the next floor, and I had

577
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:41,400
wondered about that, but I don't remember if I even,

578
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,880
like really, I think I read the dialogue where he

579
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,880
says something about locking the door, but I don't think

580
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,719
I actually stopped and questioned why he was doing that.

581
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,599
I don't remember I noted it, but there's so much

582
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:55,880
going on that if there's not an immediate explanation, I

583
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,519
just let it slide and figure I'll find out eventually.

584
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:05,880
It turns out that they are locked in a place

585
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:12,119
where they just they don't actually really fully die, and

586
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,119
so he infected them all with this slug pox thing,

587
00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:22,000
which means that they are all birthing, so to speak,

588
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,400
these slugs that are getting like bigger and bigger as

589
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:32,880
they're training up as well. If I'm not mistaken, or

590
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:35,920
maybe it's like a combo, because I know that the

591
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,519
more you have coming out of you, like, the longer

592
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:47,119
it goes on, the bigger they grow. It's really fucking

593
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,360
He says it here like they're helping me with something,

594
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,519
as if they like consent it to this, And I

595
00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:58,159
don't get the impression that they did. Maybe I'm wrong,

596
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,159
Maybe carl Abs asked and they were like, that sounds

597
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:08,039
really horrible, but okay, I don't think he did. But

598
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:13,119
you know, this is horrifying. So this is when we

599
00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:17,280
get somebody, uh named Reson Masude is dead. He got

600
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,280
touched by a zombie pole cat. It just touched his foot.

601
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,320
It was possessed by a demon, and it tried to

602
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,800
pull him through a portal. The demon went through the hole,

603
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,199
but Massud exploded when he touched it. He blew up,

604
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,559
just like my mother did when she went into the

605
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:35,239
bathroom on the first floor. And somebody replies, if it's

606
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,079
like the bathrooms, you don't explode. All of your equipment

607
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,159
is sucked through, but you aren't allowed to pass, and

608
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,320
everything you're wearing passes through you to get into the

609
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,519
hole like a portal trap. And this person is just like, okay,

610
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,039
I just lost somebody. I don't give a shit about

611
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:57,920
the technicalities. The point is you touch it and you're dead.

612
00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:02,679
And this guy replies, not if you're naked. And I

613
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,039
was like, oh, because it very much felt like a

614
00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:10,079
well actually for no reason. But it's a well actually,

615
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:15,000
And here's the reason. That's important, which is always maybe

616
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:17,679
lead with that, Maybe lead with that. That's all I'm saying,

617
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:22,639
man lave. So this is when he says, what happened

618
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:27,920
when the portal closed? Uh, he's everywhere. All his gear

619
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,320
got sucked into the hole, and he exploded so much.

620
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,159
I can't even loot his inventory. He had most of

621
00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:36,800
our gold too, which really fucking blows. He was the

622
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,840
one who bought the Saferman. Now it's gone. I'm really

623
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,000
in trouble here. But the demon still went away, and

624
00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:47,519
the hole went away immediately. It sure did. It only

625
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:51,079
took the stuff the guy was touching. Yes, holy shit,

626
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,400
any more questions, I'm running for my life here, which

627
00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:00,800
a reasonable response, to be honest. If they were zombie demons,

628
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,480
they only needed one soul. If they touched a person,

629
00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:06,360
a portal open and the demon returned home, the portal

630
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,360
closed immediately. If they were the full powered level one

631
00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:12,559
forty demons, the portal lasted a minute or two, sucked

632
00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:15,480
in everything nearby, and they needed two souls in order

633
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:18,119
to punch their ticket home. The demon, stuck in the

634
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:21,320
body of the possessed City Boss loomed over us, still

635
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,559
pouring fire upward. I still didn't know what Sisterinz had

636
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:28,159
to do with any of this, but an idea started

637
00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:34,639
to percolate, and he says, what had Ren said, three

638
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:37,400
out of four teams hadn't gotten a key. I'd been

639
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,519
wrong before. The game was trying to balance the unfairness

640
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:43,719
of the doorways breaking. I saw it now. It was

641
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,039
just doing it in a really, really fucked up way.

642
00:42:48,519 --> 00:42:51,360
So this is when Carl gets in touch with everybody

643
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:56,960
and is like, hey, has anybody been getting absolutely hammered

644
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:02,599
with these build trench scrolls. I've gotten like fifty, and

645
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:08,480
a bunch of people are like yeah, instantly, tons of them.

646
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,000
Let's see, I'm trying to find the bit where Katcha

647
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,119
is talking about the chamber. It's a rectangular room. It's

648
00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:20,320
like a shipping container. But when the magical door broke,

649
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,159
it just left a straight wall and no way to

650
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:25,239
get inside. One has a whole spell like donuts, but

651
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,960
it didn't work. Another tri day phase through wall spell

652
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,400
and it didn't work either. It's like the walls are

653
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:36,559
made of the same stuff as the magic doors. Carl

654
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,000
gets a message from Amani here about you know what

655
00:43:41,039 --> 00:43:44,519
the fuck is wrong with you and explains for us

656
00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:47,599
the readers really about what was going on with the

657
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:51,320
strippers in that room, and she says something about how

658
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,320
they're plunk punk rock and he says they're not their sluglos, which, guys,

659
00:43:56,639 --> 00:43:59,760
did we know that they were slug alows? I didn't

660
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:05,199
rememb remember this, And is that why one of them

661
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,440
said something like I'll get them daddy, Like, I don't

662
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,920
know what the sluggolo culture is, to be honest, slugglo think, guys.

663
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:14,800
So for those who don't know, this is like a

664
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:20,199
pun on juggalos, and juggalos are very particular. It's a wild,

665
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:28,480
insane clown posse fandom. That is, it has a particular

666
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:34,159
aesthetic of like black and white makeup and is very chaotic.

667
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,800
I am so sorry, guys, but it's really funny in

668
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,880
a lot of ways. Like I there was an episode

669
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:48,480
of Snapped that I could not stop laughing because this

670
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:54,960
woman was basically opened her home to a bunch of

671
00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:58,159
Juggalos to like come and stay with her. She was

672
00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:01,199
an older woman who, it's it seemed like, wanted to

673
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,360
be part of a younger, cool crowd. And I put

674
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,840
cool very heavily in quotation marks there. And eventually she

675
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:12,760
convinces one of the Juggalos to like murder her husband,

676
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,119
and it was she like, lets them spend all her money.

677
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:19,320
And there's a point where they're talking about this like

678
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,800
awful murder, and then the narrator for Snap, who has

679
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,480
this bizarre voice, is like and then it was revealed

680
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,559
the Juggalos had stolen all her money, and it was

681
00:45:32,639 --> 00:45:36,440
just it was so ridiculous. And I don't like to

682
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:40,280
laugh during one of these because it's like about somebody

683
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,440
who was murdered horribly, you know, but I did cackle

684
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:49,599
at that because it was just a bonker sentence. Seraphim says,

685
00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:52,719
it's more upun on Jigalo since there's slugs that came

686
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,519
from male prostitutes. Is that true, because I don't feel

687
00:45:56,519 --> 00:46:01,559
like punk rock, Like, why would she think they're punk

688
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:08,039
rock if it's that feels like a musical thing that

689
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:11,719
she's assuming, And so him saying it's not punk rock

690
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:17,119
they're slugglows feels like a reference specifically to like a

691
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:25,360
musical fandom. And also slugglo is a way better pun

692
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,639
because jigglow it doesn't even have the same first yeah,

693
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,079
Michael says, I had no idea I Jugglo was even

694
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:38,679
a thing if you look it up. Michael, it's really something.

695
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:43,679
And there's like a Juggalo Christmas CD that. Look I'm

696
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,719
not I can't, I can't do this, but it's wild.

697
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:54,199
It's a really it's it's something. Mister says, I also

698
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:57,320
thought juggalo. Rob says it's an ICP thing, and Michael says,

699
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,880
I googled it and they have a hat and they

700
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,199
have hatchet man tattoo apparently, so Natasha is definitely right here.

701
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,840
Oh right, because he's got a hatch. Okay, okay, Missie

702
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:13,880
says Christmas and yeah, yep, it's supposed to be pretty bad,

703
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:21,079
but you know, it's just a really it's a wild culture,

704
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:26,280
not like wild, like it just strange to me, you

705
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,320
know what I'm saying. Rob says. Juggalos are also apparently

706
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:34,440
super friendly and welcoming, probably like a lot of fandoms

707
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,360
are like that. You know, they're gonna be total weirdos

708
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,159
that go way too far, and then they are gonna

709
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:40,559
be people who just want to have a good time.

710
00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:45,519
Like I will say that this snapped episode, it did

711
00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:49,039
not seem like the Juggalos were really the problem. They

712
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,639
like stole a bunch of her money, but it felt

713
00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:54,440
very much like she let them have access to it,

714
00:47:54,519 --> 00:47:57,280
so stealing felt like kind of not really the right

715
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,440
way to frame it. It was the lady that was

716
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,599
the one trying to commit murder and just convinced somebody

717
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:06,920
to help her. But that does not mean that the

718
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:10,920
music is not god awful, though I will stand by that. So,

719
00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:16,440
speaking of regenerating, I had to cure the mercenaries of

720
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,440
the sled disease the room. He'll refused to do it.

721
00:48:18,519 --> 00:48:21,280
She said that bucket boy kid said you told them

722
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,679
not to. And he's like, oh, you can cure it,

723
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,719
and she's like yeah, which you know, it's not like

724
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,360
that would have done him any good to know before

725
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,599
because she was nowhere near him. But that is convenient

726
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,280
at least. So this is when he gets in touch

727
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,039
with Prepotente, and we have like a thing where we

728
00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:43,920
find out later they have talked, but we don't get

729
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,199
a lot of that here. And there's some information from

730
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:54,320
Mordecai about shale and how the uh, the myth goes back.

731
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,400
I don't really want to go into all of this

732
00:48:57,519 --> 00:48:59,679
because honestly, I don't feel like I need to know

733
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:05,920
if something that's relevant here, I'll find out, and then

734
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,960
we go into sixty two. I'm starting to believe I

735
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,400
have the ability to manifest my own destiny after a

736
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,760
certain fashion. The more unstable the AI running the system becomes,

737
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,800
the less predictable it is. Yet at the same time,

738
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,480
it's even more predictable in certain ways. I made a

739
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:22,880
quip about being hungry, and I suddenly received a random

740
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,920
achievement notification about my hunger level. I discussed with my

741
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,519
friend how I wished we could kill more gas and

742
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:30,519
not one hour later, I received a quest to hunt

743
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:34,519
down a certain number of the very same monsters. Beware, however,

744
00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:39,199
that same quest killed my friend. The AI is always listening, thinking, plotting,

745
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,679
changing the game to suit its desires. At the higher levels,

746
00:49:42,679 --> 00:49:45,039
it is not nearly as rigid as it once was.

747
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:49,639
That pliability can be an asset or an extreme danger.

748
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,559
And that's when I was thinking with like the sort

749
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:56,119
of you know, attempts to sort of manipulate it. Saying

750
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,159
it's pliable, I think, is pretty much the same thing,

751
00:50:00,639 --> 00:50:02,880
and it's not necessary, Like saying that you're trying to

752
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,639
manipulate does not necessarily mean that you are in perfect control.

753
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:10,920
It simply means that you have a means of affecting

754
00:50:11,159 --> 00:50:14,280
an outcome, and you are attempting to do that, and

755
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,920
you know it may or may not work out for you.

756
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:23,920
We will see so uh. He uses his fine crawler

757
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,519
skill and he can see that Sisterinas is basically in

758
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:29,440
the same spot that she had been, which is like

759
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:36,400
kind of you know, unnerving for him. I know a

760
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,519
way to get into the stairwell chambers without a key.

761
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:41,280
Pony and I came up with the idea together. I

762
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,360
need you to start spreading the word. We need to

763
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,480
stop fighting each other. Do everything you can to convince people.

764
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,400
Everybody who has lost keys needs to start clearing the

765
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,440
stairwell chamber of debris. I know most of these rooms

766
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,159
have a whole lot of infrastructure, but we got to

767
00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:56,880
get them to isolate these chambers as fast as possible

768
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,119
if you can. You want nothing on it, or above it,

769
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,440
or even around it. Don't be gentle. Blow that shit

770
00:51:03,519 --> 00:51:06,239
up and do it fast. Find one of those build

771
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,400
trench scrolls and use it to tunnel underneath the chamber.

772
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,079
You need to be able to fit everyone in your

773
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:16,599
party underneath the room. Mordecai, go into my bomber studio

774
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:18,519
and take the pile of satchel bombs and stick them

775
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:20,920
on the market. That'll help people with the demolition. I've

776
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,079
been making them in preparation for the next floor, so

777
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:26,679
they're safe for regular crawlers to handle. Those with keys

778
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,800
need to get out as soon as possible and clear

779
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,320
the way for the people left behind. Tell them not

780
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,199
to waste their time fighting. There's no point we can

781
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:38,960
get out all of us. And you know, there's the

782
00:51:39,039 --> 00:51:41,679
usual like pushback of like, what do you mean this

783
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,079
isn't enough information? I wish that you'd come up with

784
00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:51,119
this sooner. And this is when Ellie mentions the slug

785
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:55,400
alows is that a pun? You know how I feel

786
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:00,719
about pun based names. Carl, And then am I yells

787
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,880
out and this is not the first time Amion had

788
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,159
yelled out before, and is like, Carl, come here, and

789
00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:09,639
this time he yells out Carl again, but then starts

790
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,440
yelling I believe it, sister, and is let me go,

791
00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:16,599
you fucking bitch, is Saul, I will flay you again.

792
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,239
I will get free of this shell, and he growled Carl,

793
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:26,599
come now, so Carl, like assault is a name that

794
00:52:26,639 --> 00:52:31,400
he remembers, and this is the thing with the Goddess,

795
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:37,320
with Sister Inez. Meanwhile, he is trying to convince everybody

796
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,599
that they can work together and make this happen, and

797
00:52:41,639 --> 00:52:45,400
a lot of people are not interested. It really takes.

798
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:53,519
It takes a motivational speech from him, basically as he

799
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:57,360
first tries to get prepatentes to support his assertion, and

800
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:04,519
Prepotente is just really not convincing. He is just you know,

801
00:53:05,039 --> 00:53:09,800
you know how he is. And he says it's a

802
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,440
long shot, but for a lot of us, it's literally

803
00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:15,920
our only chance, those of you who are fighting each other.

804
00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:18,159
What's the point If there's not enough of us alive

805
00:53:18,199 --> 00:53:19,760
on the next floor, we won't have a chance to

806
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,440
make it to the tenth where we can start earning

807
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,960
our freedom. The more of us who set foot on

808
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,679
the ninth, the stronger we are. It will take a

809
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,199
fifty percent chance to survive with all of you. I

810
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,079
will take a fifty percent chance to survive with all

811
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:34,159
of you over a one hundred percent chance to survive

812
00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:38,599
alone any day. And this is when Prepotente has to

813
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,599
chime in again that, like, the odds aren't great, but

814
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:49,000
you know, and they continue to go back and forth,

815
00:53:49,199 --> 00:53:52,599
being kind of childish to a degree with each other.

816
00:53:52,639 --> 00:53:55,079
And this is when he has to be like, God,

817
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,320
damn it, everybody stop it. Earlier I was thinking about

818
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,320
how hopeless all this is, that we're They're whittling us

819
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,719
down to nothing. There's a death quota they have to meet,

820
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,760
and no matter how hard we fight, we're stuck inside

821
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,119
that box. No, fuck them all. I was wrong. We

822
00:54:11,199 --> 00:54:13,679
are not like those who came before us. This is

823
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,440
our chance. This is our chance to show them how

824
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,199
hard it is to kill us. We will not die

825
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,719
by their schedule. Every person who gets through will be

826
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,079
one more. The real assholes will have to fight on

827
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:28,760
the next floor. We need each other, I need you,

828
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:39,000
so stop fucking fighting. And finally this gets through. This

829
00:54:39,079 --> 00:54:44,519
is when, all of a sudden, a new quest where

830
00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:48,559
the sidewalk ends. This is a regional quest. All crawlers

831
00:54:48,599 --> 00:54:51,360
within the area of Cuba have been added. Your squad

832
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,119
has been designated as host. I've been debating on whether

833
00:54:55,199 --> 00:54:56,679
or not to allow this, but now that so many

834
00:54:56,679 --> 00:54:58,400
of you are hell bent on dying in such a

835
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,119
spectacular manner, we might as well make it official. Amayon

836
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,079
has been betrayed by one of his brothers. After being

837
00:55:06,159 --> 00:55:09,760
unceremoniously expelled from the Kingdom of Shield, the demon Princes

838
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,960
managed to just barely hold on long enough to pull

839
00:55:12,039 --> 00:55:15,960
himself onto the equivalent of a very small ledge. The

840
00:55:16,039 --> 00:55:18,679
level two point fifty demon Lord now inhabits the body

841
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,199
of a lesser deity. In order to return home, Amion

842
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:26,079
must simply must cast a spell, but nobody rides the

843
00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:29,360
river for free. A tithe of souls is required to

844
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,480
pass back downward, and for a demon of his power,

845
00:55:32,599 --> 00:55:35,760
the tithe is pretty steep, So he has cast his

846
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,039
spell a wide area of portal that will inhale all

847
00:55:39,079 --> 00:55:42,519
the souls within Cuba. This will be enough barely to

848
00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:46,960
send him home. Unfortunately, his expulsion has not gone unnoticed.

849
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,880
Other entities have noted and are doing what they can

850
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,960
to stop him from returning. He is being thwarted. Here

851
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,440
are your options. Do nothing. In two hours the porta

852
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,199
will cast. All of Cuba will be sucked upward. This

853
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,079
may or may not be good thing, depending on where

854
00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:05,559
you're standing. Two free Ameon from his shell. This will

855
00:56:05,559 --> 00:56:08,719
cause Ameon to take his true form. The timer will reset.

856
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,519
This quest will reset into a World Quest. We've never

857
00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:14,519
had a full powered, on tethered hell princes on leash

858
00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:17,000
on a lower floor before. I'm sure it'll be fine.

859
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,440
Three kill ameon, good luck with that one. He's invulnerable

860
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:27,400
on this floor. And then Carl says, Pony, holy shit,

861
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:29,760
you were right. We got the quest just like you

862
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,320
said we would. And Prepotente, how many times must I

863
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,400
tell you not to call me by that name? I

864
00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:39,639
side with Prepotente on this one, Carl. He has asked

865
00:56:39,639 --> 00:56:43,400
you very politely not to do that. Just call him

866
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,800
what he wants to be called, sir. It's rude, okay,

867
00:56:46,519 --> 00:56:52,039
just you know. So this is when he has to

868
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:56,599
have a chat with Donut because she is coming to

869
00:56:56,679 --> 00:57:03,199
terms with the fact that, like this is all or nothing.

870
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:08,320
You know, if we do this and it doesn't work,

871
00:57:08,599 --> 00:57:10,559
we may not be able to get down the stairs

872
00:57:10,599 --> 00:57:15,320
because we will destroy the door. And she says, how

873
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,239
do you know the demon's spell will cover the whole planet?

874
00:57:17,239 --> 00:57:20,760
And he says, I don't. I just have a hunch.

875
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,440
The stronger the demon is, the bigger the spell needs

876
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,159
to be in order to get himself home. So I'm

877
00:57:28,159 --> 00:57:32,239
going to make him as strong as possible, and she

878
00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:37,440
says how, and he says, I dodged the question because

879
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:42,280
she was not going to like the answer. Don't love that,

880
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,760
but he does say we should have killed sister, and

881
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,719
as when we have the chance, you had the chance,

882
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,599
you were right earlier. This is one of those things

883
00:57:51,639 --> 00:57:55,519
where I kind of appreciate the fact because, like so

884
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,639
often there will be things where it's like, oh, you

885
00:58:00,679 --> 00:58:03,079
should have you think that, like intellectually that you should

886
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:05,320
have killed somebody at a certain point because it would

887
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,199
have prevented this damage, but actually that person wound up

888
00:58:09,199 --> 00:58:13,159
being sort of like instrumental somehow in another way, where

889
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,639
it was your mercy toward them that saved you in

890
00:58:18,719 --> 00:58:22,199
the end, which I do understand why. That's like a

891
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:27,280
nice tidy storytelling beat, but I do think is really

892
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:32,079
not facing the fact that some folks are so damaging

893
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,800
that they genuinely the world is better off without them

894
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,400
in it. And I don't know if maybe we're going

895
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,559
to get something where it turns around and it is like, hey,

896
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:47,360
maybe we will, But at this point I appreciate us

897
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:52,000
just being like, yeah, no, we should have like it.

898
00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:56,360
Once she fucking got pass and made him into a card,

899
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:02,559
I feel like she pretty much just that was her

900
00:59:02,719 --> 00:59:08,960
surrendering her human card. You know, probably you could argue

901
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,679
that killing her entire convents were worth of sisters was

902
00:59:13,719 --> 00:59:18,360
really the one and I would agree with you on that.

903
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,320
I'm just talking about since we entered the dungeon. It's

904
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:29,440
all so let's see. Uh. Of course, in the end

905
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:33,400
Karl agrees or don't agree with Carl where the Princess

906
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,400
Posse and the Princess Posse doesn't leave anyone behind, and

907
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,440
he says that was a cheesy line, and she's like, yeah,

908
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,840
I'm working on it. I still have from a movie.

909
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:49,039
So sixty three it's chapter sixty three. I had to

910
00:59:49,039 --> 00:59:52,519
cover this, and sixty four and it's already three thirty. Oh,

911
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,519
I'm thinking, we me, you need to cut down on these

912
00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:58,519
sections again, Michael, because this is I've really I've been

913
00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:01,760
like moving as talk about this, I feel like and

914
01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:05,480
it's still I am just so behind. I may have

915
01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:09,280
to put off some of this for the next episode.

916
01:00:10,039 --> 01:00:16,920
But okay, So Sister Inez has got like not sent

917
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:21,199
more demons after Carl despite threatening to, and like I said,

918
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,400
it's him suspecting that she can't, that maybe she doesn't

919
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,800
have control over whatever. Her ability is the way that

920
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:34,159
she thought. And let's see. This is when Carl says

921
01:00:34,159 --> 01:00:35,599
we're going to move in. We're in the alley on

922
01:00:35,639 --> 01:00:37,800
the other side of the grass squhere he's talking to Imani,

923
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,199
and Imani says, stay put, we're coming to you. And

924
01:00:42,239 --> 01:00:45,039
then all of a sudden, a bunch of blue dots

925
01:00:45,159 --> 01:00:51,159
appear and all of his friends arrive and Carl is

926
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:59,039
genuinely so moved at this moment, and it's really sweet.

927
01:01:00,519 --> 01:01:05,920
She says, how did they get here? And Ellie says,

928
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,239
the look on his face makes this suicide mission all

929
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:14,440
worth it. It was Imani, Kachya, Battista, Louis, Britney, Tran,

930
01:01:14,679 --> 01:01:18,000
Lee June, Lee Na Zang, Chris, Ellie, a few Metal

931
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:21,000
Lark Crawlers I didn't really know, and a handful of others,

932
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,840
most of whom were Asian. It totalled over twenty people,

933
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,400
and I love Ellie just being like, yeah, you don't

934
01:01:30,519 --> 01:01:32,519
like it when people leave you out of the planning

935
01:01:32,599 --> 01:01:37,039
phase for a big move, do you so? Lee June

936
01:01:37,079 --> 01:01:41,519
explains it was Lucia mar They're calling it the Battle

937
01:01:41,559 --> 01:01:45,719
of Beijing. Lucia she never really collected any cards. She

938
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,559
refused to play. She got the six totems they automatically

939
01:01:48,559 --> 01:01:50,360
gave her, but they were low level, and whenever a

940
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,480
battle started, she discarded the first one and she played

941
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,760
the rest until her hand was empty, which allowed her

942
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,559
to use her spells in magic and inventory. She and

943
01:01:58,599 --> 01:02:01,400
her dog went in and killed. When she showed up

944
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,440
at the Soho building, it turned into a big fight

945
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,840
amongst all the people without keys. There were monster traps

946
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,679
set up too, and it was chaos. She killed so

947
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,960
many people. She set up a teleport trap and Fang's

948
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,199
team got caught up in it. He had a key.

949
01:02:15,679 --> 01:02:19,119
She killed him and his wife and took it. After that,

950
01:02:19,679 --> 01:02:22,480
we thought she'd already gone down the stairs, but when

951
01:02:22,519 --> 01:02:25,360
we got there, she was waiting for us. She can

952
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:29,280
hide her presence. Now. I do not like to hear

953
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,199
that at all. She said. Florin had messaged her before

954
01:02:33,239 --> 01:02:35,679
he'd gone down the stairs and told her to help us.

955
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,199
She dropped five of these on the ground and went

956
01:02:38,239 --> 01:02:42,039
back down the stairs. We already installed one of them

957
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:44,320
in and Moni's room. We don't know how she got these,

958
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,719
where she got them from, or why she has so many,

959
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,400
and there items that are too high levels. She really

960
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:55,039
should not. These aren't available to anybody to like buy

961
01:02:55,119 --> 01:03:00,559
on this floor. It was a personal space upgrade module.

962
01:03:00,719 --> 01:03:02,360
If you bought one of these from a Bopka, they

963
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,199
installed it directly in your room. But if you got

964
01:03:04,239 --> 01:03:06,360
it from a box it had come like this, you

965
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,199
had to put it in your inventory and then enter

966
01:03:08,239 --> 01:03:11,199
your personal space tab on your interface to use it.

967
01:03:13,679 --> 01:03:16,679
Mordecai says they shouldn't be available till the ninth floor.

968
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,360
He thinks Lucias stole them when she went on a

969
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,599
show or something. I am going to guess somebody gave

970
01:03:23,639 --> 01:03:25,920
them to her. I feel like something's going on with her.

971
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:31,559
I'm so curious. It's a Tier three doggy door, upgrades

972
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:34,519
the door in your personal space to allow a selectable

973
01:03:34,639 --> 01:03:38,760
exit via any door you have previously utilized on this

974
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:44,639
same floor, effectively creating a fast travel waypoint system allows

975
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:50,760
shared gated access amongst guests and party members. That's bonkers.

976
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:58,880
That is an insane, like holy fucking shit. So now

977
01:03:59,239 --> 01:04:03,760
with it in in Imani's safe room, anyone in the

978
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,599
guild can go out that door into the church, or

979
01:04:07,639 --> 01:04:11,239
into Washington, or into Detroit, or into Belgium where Ellie's squad.

980
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,400
It works for the whole Meadow Lark party. Can we

981
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,599
upgrade the entire guild to use it so it works

982
01:04:17,639 --> 01:04:20,840
on my door too? We can, but it's pretty expensive

983
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,239
Tier three twenty five million to give it to everybody.

984
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,880
I think it's doable based on how much gold we're

985
01:04:29,239 --> 01:04:36,480
accumulating here. I feel like that's doable. We already pooled

986
01:04:36,519 --> 01:04:42,800
all our money to buy that Barracks upgrade. And this

987
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,960
is when she says that she's never going to take

988
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,280
that key from them, and then le June chimes in

989
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,559
on Carl privately and is like, hey, so we mentioned

990
01:04:52,599 --> 01:04:56,159
that Lucia was like friendly, but there did come a

991
01:04:56,199 --> 01:05:02,119
point where she suddenly became mean again, and she said

992
01:05:02,159 --> 01:05:04,719
that she was saving something for herself that was special

993
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,719
because she was determined to kill Donut and Mango. So

994
01:05:09,559 --> 01:05:12,360
that's why a fight almost broke out between her and

995
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,960
my sister, and Carl is just like, thank you for

996
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,599
not saying that out loud, which you know, considering that

997
01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:23,079
Donut was responsible for killing the good dog out of

998
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:27,599
the two dogs. I have a hard time being mad

999
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,159
at Lucy and Marr for that. I love Donut, but

1000
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,360
the number of times that she has talked about how

1001
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,679
she really wants to kill a dog. I can't lie.

1002
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,159
It always hurts me a little bit, and I just

1003
01:05:40,199 --> 01:05:43,360
don't like animal and animal violence. It's just that simple.

1004
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,400
And this is when he is looking around and seeing

1005
01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:54,679
Britney smiling, when I like Mongo snuffles against her, and

1006
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,480
Tran is smiling, and he's realizing he's never actually seen

1007
01:05:58,519 --> 01:06:04,159
Britney smile ever. I felt it, the change in the air.

1008
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,159
Things were not looking up for us, but somehow it

1009
01:06:07,239 --> 01:06:11,599
didn't matter. Ever since the horror of the Butcher's Masquerade,

1010
01:06:11,599 --> 01:06:14,119
there had been this feeling coming over me, an extra

1011
01:06:14,199 --> 01:06:18,119
layer of darkness on top of everything, which I think

1012
01:06:18,159 --> 01:06:21,119
all of us today in twenty twenty six can really

1013
01:06:21,159 --> 01:06:25,960
relate to. I thought of Ren and the hopelessness that

1014
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,199
had broken her, of the crawlers who'd been forced to

1015
01:06:28,199 --> 01:06:32,360
confront their own personal nightmares. It was loneliness. It had

1016
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:36,480
always been loneliness, the river in his head he's talking about.

1017
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,079
Nothing had changed. We were likely fucked, but we were

1018
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:45,159
all together again, and there was hope. Finally, clarity filled

1019
01:06:45,159 --> 01:06:48,559
me for the first time. It was isolation that would

1020
01:06:48,599 --> 01:06:52,519
break us. We couldn't let it happen. And honestly, this

1021
01:06:52,599 --> 01:06:56,000
really hit me because I feel like this is something

1022
01:06:56,039 --> 01:07:00,840
that a lot of us didn't really see coming but

1023
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:05,239
has recently we've begun to realize more and more about

1024
01:07:05,239 --> 01:07:08,880
the way we live is how isolated a lot of

1025
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:13,440
technology has enabled us to be. And it's very comfortable

1026
01:07:13,519 --> 01:07:16,199
to stay isolated in some ways because you can predict

1027
01:07:16,199 --> 01:07:18,039
what's going to happen, and you don't have to have

1028
01:07:18,119 --> 01:07:22,360
weird encounters with strange people, and you know, you can

1029
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,639
to a degree control your environment and make everything exactly

1030
01:07:26,679 --> 01:07:31,840
how you want it. But also that leads to this

1031
01:07:32,079 --> 01:07:37,119
like weird stasis. You know, growth and comfort cannot coexist,

1032
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,079
as I have in my background here on the Live,

1033
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:48,360
So I think that isolation. It's like we that comes

1034
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,480
hand in hand with comfort for a lot of us

1035
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:56,159
because of our anxiety, and it's something that we really

1036
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,599
can fall into a trap with. I know, I can,

1037
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:03,880
you know, but yeah, it's just a really it's the

1038
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,639
sort of thing that can be kind of sobering when

1039
01:08:07,679 --> 01:08:10,880
you step back, and it's something that I have appreciated.

1040
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,800
They built houses across the street from me, and like

1041
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,159
when they started building, I was super sad because it

1042
01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:19,119
was a forested area and cutting down all these trees

1043
01:08:19,159 --> 01:08:21,560
and everything. But I will say that, like yesterday I

1044
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,600
took pippin for a walk and I waved and called

1045
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,640
out to a couple of my neighbors by name, and

1046
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,399
like they have come to us when they needed a thing,

1047
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,960
we have come to them when they when we needed

1048
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:36,560
a thing. And so there is a little bit of

1049
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,880
a feeling of community in my neighborhood that I didn't

1050
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,520
have before. And it is nice, you know. It's just

1051
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:46,720
the sort of thing that's like kind of difficult for

1052
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,279
a number of reasons. But I think that this is

1053
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:53,640
really true about loneliness. And I think that a lot

1054
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,199
of the goals of bad people out there who are

1055
01:08:57,239 --> 01:09:01,079
making like bought accounts and stuff, is to reinforce to

1056
01:09:01,159 --> 01:09:04,520
us everybody out there is terrible. Look at these comment sections,

1057
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,760
look at the posts that people are making. I don't

1058
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,680
want to be out in the world because everyone is terrible.

1059
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:15,279
And it's not like that's completely untrue, but I do

1060
01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:20,239
think that our perception is manipulated, and there's more good

1061
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:24,279
people than we think there are. It's just that that's

1062
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:29,520
never what's highlighted. You know, like everything online, the whole

1063
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,720
point of a lot of it existing is purely to

1064
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:40,399
generate money, and Positivity doesn't do that. It's unfortunate but true.

1065
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,279
So that's never going to be what the focus is

1066
01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:46,920
on when there's profit to be made. That's just not

1067
01:09:47,039 --> 01:09:53,399
how it works. So anyway, that's the end of chapter

1068
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,079
sixty three. I am going to have to do sixty

1069
01:09:56,079 --> 01:10:02,399
four next time, not a like chapter sixty four is

1070
01:10:03,039 --> 01:10:06,159
a little bit just getting into position and also a

1071
01:10:06,159 --> 01:10:10,399
conversation with Katya. There's other things as well, but I

1072
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,920
think it'll be all right to fold that into next time.

1073
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:18,319
And oh, Michael says, I was thinking I might need

1074
01:10:18,319 --> 01:10:20,199
to adjust the schedule for book seven since the last

1075
01:10:20,199 --> 01:10:22,319
episode only covers like twenty pages, So I guess I'll

1076
01:10:22,319 --> 01:10:24,840
try to find time to adjust the episodes to cover

1077
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,000
maybe forty or so pages or less and see how

1078
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,840
that works out. I'm still booking episodes for the still

1079
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,079
to be released book eight, so maybe there will be

1080
01:10:32,119 --> 01:10:34,960
some leeway there too, where coverage can slop over onto

1081
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:39,680
those extra episodes if needed. Yeah, that makes sense. Rob says,

1082
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,720
there was that excellent article that someone posts in the

1083
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,039
discord about everyone wants a village, but nobody wants to

1084
01:10:45,039 --> 01:10:47,199
be a villager, and it was such a good article.

1085
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,880
It's like, I don't even want to say that nobody

1086
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,079
wants to be a villager so much as like we

1087
01:10:53,279 --> 01:10:58,000
have created a we have created a world in which

1088
01:10:58,079 --> 01:11:02,560
being a villager isn't feasible with the way that the

1089
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,920
rest of our lives are set up in terms of

1090
01:11:05,119 --> 01:11:07,560
how much energy we have left in the day, how

1091
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:11,880
much like income we have to spare to help people.

1092
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:18,399
It's just we have as a hyper individualistic society. The

1093
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:23,039
United States has made it so that if you can't

1094
01:11:23,159 --> 01:11:26,960
take care of yourself, how can you tell help take

1095
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,840
care of anybody else? And they have made it that

1096
01:11:31,039 --> 01:11:34,000
one we can't fully take care of ourselves on what

1097
01:11:34,079 --> 01:11:37,520
we are making in terms of income, and they have

1098
01:11:38,159 --> 01:11:41,600
kind of imparted this shame at the fact that we

1099
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,439
can't take care of ourselves, so we don't want to

1100
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:49,319
even ask for help a lot of the time. It's

1101
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:56,199
a very gross self perpetuating thing that only benefits certain people,

1102
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:01,960
you know. Yeah, So anyway, on that bummer note, I

1103
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,079
do have to wrap because I am way over time,

1104
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,000
But thank you guys again for coming. I appreciate you

1105
01:12:07,079 --> 01:12:09,800
all and I will be seeing you Thursday. Until then

1106
01:12:10,399 --> 01:12:44,279
to LU Motherfucker's That was an unspoiled network podcast.