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Speaker 6: The Rush Hour is on the air, Rush Rush. Now

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here's James Golden. So Senator Schumer voted. No, He wasn't

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even publicly in favor of all this. Why is this

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Look, he orchestrated it. Here are a few of the facts.

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Senator Shaheen was on this morning saying every negotiation was

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run by him every day. His number two, Dick Durbin,

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voted for it. And then did you notice that all

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eight senators are voted for it were not up for

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reelection in twenty twenty six. That's not a coincidence. This

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was done with Senator Schumer's blessing. I think people are

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more upset that he doesn't just come out.

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Speaker 4: And say that.

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Speaker 7: And if you're not going to lead in stopping premium

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hikes on healthcare, in preserving the Affordable Care Act, then

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it's time for you to step aside.

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Speaker 8: Welcome my friends to the Tuesday edition of both and

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their release Rush Hour. The anger is palpitable Democrats upset

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with their leadership in the midst of a failed shutdown,

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what should be completely gotten rid of by the end

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of the week. The House of Representatives comes back into

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session tomorrow. Before we get into the ins and outs,

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it is so refreshing to see a political party tearing

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itself apart, engaged in a circle, a circular firing squad,

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and it not be the Republicans. I can't tell you

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how refreshing that is. But before we get into all

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of that, it is Veterans Day across this America, and

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is with every significant American holiday, we call upon the

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official historian of this show, my dear friend and colleague

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from Days with Rush lumba show. He was web producer

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with Rush. He is the founder of historyauthor dot com.

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He is a columnist with The New York Sun. And

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he is also, by the way, a fellow broadcaster as well,

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man of many talents and author. I might add, not

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just of history books, but cuisine as well. You know,

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Carlos and his wife wrote a book on Greek cuisine. Yes,

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Carlos is from Greece. Dean, I don't know whether you

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Speaker 1: No, you never mentioned it, which is surprising Greeks.

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It is Veterans Day, you know, Dean. I mentioned last

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night to my niece, well, tomorrow's Armistice Day, and she

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I she had no clue what I was talking about

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when I said Armistice Day? What day? Armistice Day? And

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then I said, does the phrase the eleventh hour of

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is just the reality. No, we weren't. I've taught anything

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about that, Dean Armistice Day, which is now known as

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Veterans Day. Uh, tell us about that day and how

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their service, but those great war veterans, the World War

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was the first armisist day, but on the eleventh hour,

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so much sacrifice, for really no purpose. Because we come

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case with your niece. In schools, they only have so

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much space in a history textbook, so they go and

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they oh, well, world War two, that's the one we

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World War One doesn't settle much, but at the time,

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the people who lived through it, that was the great war.

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face of the country. You had people shambling around for

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poison gas, who had lived in the tragus, who lost limbs,

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just as with the Civil War. And you even had

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one private, private Nicholas Gunther. He was the last man killed,

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the last American killed, And that was when they knew

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that the armisicist was coming. Because the people negotiating that

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treaty had to wait, which I always thought was a

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little strange. If we decided an armistice, how about we

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stopped the killing right now, But they decided to wait

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for a really symbolic moment, the eleven eleven eleven, and

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he charged the German machine gun nests. People on both

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sides are telling this twenty three year old private stop,

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the war is over, and unfortunately he ends up being killed.

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he's the last one. And today, for Veterans Day, it's

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not about men like that like Gunther, laid down their lives,

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but the men who were seeing that happen. Those are

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the veterans. And I think we tend to think of

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veterans today because we haven't lived through a world war,

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thank god most of us. We think of them as well,

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they come home, they get a discount card. Really we

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appreciate them. We watched movies unfortunately instead of really speaking

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to people. Just a sign of our modern world, but

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they had to watch one of their comrades get gunned down.

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Marine airman and they all get captured by Japanese, tortured,

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pilot of that plane, as the survivor. He has survivors guilt,

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some of the memoirs of these men. I covered two

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yesterday I played because I Guestosa for our friend Derek

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Hunter on his podcast, and I had interviewed two World

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War Two veterans. They both passed on now. One of

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them was one hundred and three who'd been there at

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Pearl Harbor at the Pearl Harbor attack, Lieutenant Jim Downing,

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Patton's Army. He was one of the first Americans to

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liberate a Nazi concentration camp and That's one of the

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reasons I do the history author show interviews is because

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if there is a young person like your niece, or

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if there's somebody out there listening now who says I

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never really thought much about World War One. I hear

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all the time about World War Two, and we seem

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to be living forever on the aftermath or in the

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aftermath of World War Two. But it is important to

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remember how this starts, how this is this massive global

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conflict that launches us into the world stage, onto the

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world stage America. But there are real people who needed

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to pay the price for that. And yes they came home,

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outside businesses. No soldiers allowed, because like today, they feared

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that there might be something wrong with them, they might

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suffer from. At the time, they called it soldier's heart,

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or they called it battle rattle, which is the name

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of Roger Boas's memoir, and people were afraid of them

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shell shock, that's the one we know from World War One.

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with asking those questions and the way that you ask

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them of young people, especially because that's the only way

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you were going to learn. And I always say in history,

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I have plenty of things I've thought were right that

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turned out to be wrong, or stories that I didn't know,

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and I always say it benefits me nothing to be

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I want to learn those stories. I want to expand

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my own horizon. When I see the about one hundred

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and fifty different World War One memorials around New York City,

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I want to put faces to those names, because they

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were just like us, and they don't deserve to just

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be black and white photographs and books or grainy footage

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much as I have studied history, if someone would have

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why World War One was fought, I would have struggled

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doing it. We can talk about the events that happened

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with the arch arch Duke of Ferdinand and all the

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rest of it, but why and why was World War

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a world being engulfed in war in Europe? And how

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in America getting dragged in. It's a difficult war to

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World War One that led directly to World War Two.

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that it is the same war with a thirty year

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great way to put it. It's a pause.

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It's one of the reasons why when people were calling

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for yet another cease fire with Hams in Gaza, folks

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like Goss, I imagine we're both yelling. I certainly wrote

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about it at the New York Sun. That's not how

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you get victory. You get victory. And this will sound

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very familiar to you from all those rust ears, but

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because it's true, you don't get victory by calling a break.

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the so called Highway of Death, and they said, oh,

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they're running away, and General Schwartzkow and General Powells, Well,

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there's a difference between which withdrawing to fight again another

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day and a surrender. If they want to surrender they

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can lay down their weapons, but just withdrawing and leaving

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them intact to fight another day is not a way

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that you're going to have a lasting peace. And you

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think of the way that we did it in the

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Civil War in the United States, and people say, well,

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they were God, people are starving in Gaza. Well, show

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me a war where people weren't starving. That was literally

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the objective of the Union was to implement Winfield Scott's

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and a Conda plan to strangle the South and to

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like an Auta Conda. And people were distilling their urine

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to get supplies to make bombs. People were starving, people

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were eating sawdust, bread, they were eating rats. At Vicksburg.

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not surrender. They end up surrendering on surrendering on July fourth,

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World War One, and they thought, well, if we can

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they won't force us to lay down our arms, and

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we can just come back another time and finish the

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genocide of Asia and put ourselves in control. We won't

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lose the empire. And of course Truman ends up dropping

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those nuclear bombs and forcing their own conditional surrender. That's

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how you win a war. And I think, because World

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War One is inconclusive, you think, well, why would I

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want to read all the early things? There's no point

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to it, you feel like almost And also the map

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has completely changed. Those people aren't there We think of

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the Austro Hungarian Empire. Who is out there thinking of

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the austral Hungarian Empire unless it's for Paul Rubens's guest

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shot on thirty rocks with a little shriveled hand. No

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nobody ever thinks of them, and so we have found

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a hard time relating. But and for me and my wife,

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for instance, her grandfather was in the Great War, and

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she has his diary and we have his picture on

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the wall prominently. I walk by it every day, and

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we vote, when we commit to the country, when we

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get angry, maybe about things in the country, that we

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have people watching over our shoulders from history, and some

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of them are civilists now certainly some veterans from more

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recent conflicts. I think it just makes us better citizens.

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a bunch of interviews there on World War One. It's

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a war that starts because I think we forget those things.

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the foot of Woodrow Wilson. As far as the American involvement,

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he doesn't run in nineteen twelve and has another shot,

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he knew all the players. I think he might have

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calmed things down. And this is something that Jim Downing,

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Lieutenant Jim Downing, that Pearl Harbor survivor Ian three said.

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through strength. So I think that's the that's the answer. Yeah,

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do it for nothing? But sometimes wars happened that way.

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Speaker 8: James Goldland with you here, snur ly, tell you what

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deans stick around? We got to move into current day.

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I'm going to talk about shutdown. So why don't you

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hang around for that. Let's that war, the political war

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that's taking place in America. Keep it right here and

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Speaker 4: This is the Rush Hour with James Golden. Rush.

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Speaker 11: A group of moderates came to Chuck Schumer two weeks

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into the shutdown, two weeks in and said we're ready

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to reopen the government. He said, no hold out, no

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hold out. Mid October he said to his entire caucase

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wrap as the moderate being beholden to the far left. No,

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he caused the pain. He pushed the pain through along

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with Hakim Jeffries. And it's quite quite sad to see

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the radical left take over that.

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Speaker 8: And the radical left is going to continue taking over.

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Dean carry andis is with us. We'll get back with

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Dean because I want to get his take on what

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is going to be the aftermath of the shutdown. I

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can tell you two things that are happening already. You

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have an editorial today. We have an editorial today in

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the Washington Post of all places from a Reshpreneu another

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pointless shutdowns, shut them down permanently. He's calling for an

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end to these government shutdowns. It is a compelling piece.

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He goes through the history of shutdowns on how they

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have been ineffective for both Republican and Democrats who have

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tried when they were empowered not in power, to use

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the shutdown as a leverage point. Yesterday, also in the

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Washington Post, of all places, the shutdown was always going

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to end like this. This is the editorial board of

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the Washington Post. They begin by saying, when conservatives shut

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down the government in twenty thirteen over a foolhardy attempt

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to defund the Obamacare. Many elected Republicans who knew better

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went along because they would scared of angry activists. The

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same exact thing just happened to Democrats, and it's ending

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the same way, with the same inevitable failure and predictable

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backlash from their own angry activists. And they also Washington

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Post praised the eight Democrats who stood up and changed it.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 8: Anybody that thinks that they didn't try to end this

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with Chuck Schumer's blessing, guess again. Anyway, we'll be back.

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it right there, do not go away.

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Speaker 12: I think my party crossed a line of now putting

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forty two American apace to be a forty two million

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Americans with their snap benefits and making flying less safe

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and that kinds of chaos, and not paying our military.

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I mean that that was a red line for me.

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That I can't cross as a Democrat, and I think

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that's been described country over the party, and now that

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I think that's been the truth throughout it. And it's

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only wrong to shut our government down. And I'm relieved.

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But the people now that are going to get paid

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and fed and millions, millions of American they're going to

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be flying now that's going to be made more safe

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and restored.

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Speaker 8: That of course. John Fetterman, Senator from Pennsylvania. James Godwin

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snarly with you here. Dean Carranis is here New York

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Sun columness of the founder of historyauthor dot com, and

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our show is official historian Dean shutdown. What is your

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take on the impact of this longest shutdown of government

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Speaker 1: Well, gosh, it seems like shutdown season earlier. Every year

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they start playing the greatest hits, the shutdown music in October,

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and boy again I would say, what if they threw

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a shutdown and nobody came. That's how this one felt.

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That old well was a great war slogan we were

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talking about World War One, but adopted by the Hippies

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and the anti war movement in the Vietnam era. When LBJ.

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Wasn't ramping that involvement up. But I think a lot

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of people are wise to it now, and I think

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a lot of people are seeing it just as a pantomime.

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That's usually my word for it. And it's hurting people.

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It's shooting through your ba's, it's causing people pain. That's

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what these shutdowns are designed to do. You remember with

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the shutdown under President Obama that he was shuttering the

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World War Two Memorial, which is outdoors. He was even

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putting them outside places historical sites that weren't run by

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the federal government, such as the William McKinley Library in Canton, Ohio.

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He was putting cones up. They came out, said, what

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does this. We're privately owned and he's shutting us down,

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and they're trying. They put them up at Mount Rushmore,

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which you all you have to do is look up

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and you can see Mount Rushmore. You don't need you

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don't need guides to or bathrooms or other things that

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you might sometimes. But the point is they try to

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make them painful, and if people feel pain, they'll do

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what we want them to do. And ultimately this ends

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up blowing up in Chuck Schomer's face, as you said

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there and you was in your clip. Of course he's

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the majority leader, I mean the minority leader aspiring majority leader.

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And I think that they need to find a strategy

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beyond just we hate Trump, we hate him. We want

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to say no, no, no, no. It's like two year olds.

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And I know there used to be that claim the

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Republicans were the party of No. But you did have Gingerton,

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pushing him on things like welfare reform. There seems to

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no longer be that little voice in people's heads that says, well,

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we do kind of have to worry about the people

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that elect us, probably in part because of jerry mandering

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and also because of the activists. The lobbyist that you mentioned, Well,

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that's what this was all about, was just making the

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lobbyists happy, making the Rabbit supporters happy out there in

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their protests, raging against this guy, screaming at the moon.

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certainly not in this group, and the other well, the

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other seven it's questionable because they knew that they wouldn't

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pay a price. And you've had Republicans like Lindsay Graham

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do that too. By the time I'm up with rear election,

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Lindsay Graham once that you're going to forget all about this,

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whatever it was. See, I did forget that we were

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upset about at the moment. But Snarlin Arlen Speck there.

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Remember he switched to the Democrats. And what did he say? Well,

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I did this because this will enable me to win reelection,

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he says, the Republican election forever. And then then you

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switch it's about them. And I wish more people would

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understand that the people that are dependent on the government

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for their food and for their lodging and for their homes,

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I wish they would be freed from that. And I

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wish that more people would realize is they can give

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it to you, they're going to take it away from you,

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that you're under their thumb. And I still believe that

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Americans at least have that yearning for liberty and a

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lot of people in other parts of the world, but

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here we're built on it. And with what's happening in

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New York now, I'm wondering how much longer we're not

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going to have that conversation like the one that you

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had with your niece about Armistice Day and go to

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people and say, think about having your food taken away.

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Think about the movie Born Free, Go watch that everybody

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in nineteen sixty six that lion is will defend for

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itself and they think it's gonna die in the wild.

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We don't want to be a nation of housecats with

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the government just taking care of us and watering us

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and don't go outside because it's scary, and the government

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shut down. I think it's it's good in the sense

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that it damage that kind of thinking. It made people

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realize you shouldn't be counting on the government for your

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next meal.

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Speaker 8: You did not damage that kind of thinking. If do

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you not disagree with you wholeheartedly. Oh, it's encouraging it. No, look,

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here's here's sake if we use it.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you don't.

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Speaker 8: Want a second, I don't want a second. It is

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encouraging that kind of thinking. You do not hear any

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Democrat saying, my gosh, the forty two million people that

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are on Snap. Number one, why did the program expand

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so much? Unto Joe Biden, we know the reasons why.

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Number two, how can we get people off of it? Instead,

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the clamor is, oh, my goodness, they're suffering. Let's not

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care about the let's not care about the abuse. Let's

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not care about people, basically young adult people that could

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be working using food stamps as a way of life.

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None of those discussions are happening. It's just let's restore

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the benefits Obamacare, which is the center of all of

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the pain. According to their Democrats. They're not talking about

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how Obamacare, used by seven percent of the country, has

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ruined the healthcareingness. Instead, they're saying, let's just restore these

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unnaturally high premiums and support for premiums and subsidies that

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are going to insurance companies who are making bazillions of

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dollars because of the way that Obamacare set it up.

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The Democrats are especially not interested in discussing a real

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fix for it. Just restore the money, restore them sucking

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on the American taxpayer's teat for as long as they can.

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I don't hear those discussions happening. Do you really hear them?

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Speaker 1: I say, it's an opportunity. I hear them happening here.

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I wish if I was going to presume, like certain

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people do out there, in the conservative media to tell

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everybody else what they should be talking about. I would

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be doing it. I would be I'm saying it. I

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do it in might of the way. Because you're right

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about defunding Obamacare. If they just mentioned that casually, yeah,

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Republicans should be out there saying, oh, well, Obamacare, that

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thing that you aced us out of, you passed on

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your own, that we told you would cost too much.

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We're gonna do what Abraham Lincoln said the best way

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to get rid of a bad loss, to make sure

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that it is really seriously enforced. Enforce it absolutely. We're

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not going to change this. Obama's signature legislation, right, James,

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his landmark legislation. It was, oh god, so wonderful. We

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wouldn't dare. Republicans should say tamper with it in any way.

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And if you need us to give you the votes

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to save this horrible thing, let's start. We're not committing

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to anything. Let's start with you admitting this was designed

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to fail. Was Obamacare, that it costs too much? Just

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like Medicare. If you go back and look at the Medicare,

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I know you know this, James, The numbers of what

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it was promised to cost by LBJ ballooned right away,

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and we're there out of sight now. So I'm that's

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one thing. I understand we don't have a lot of

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Republicans making this point, but I think that's the opportunity here,

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is to tell people they is they can yank your

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chain like this and play with your lives, play with

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your healthcare because they want power. Because the Arl Inspectors

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of today think this is a great way to win

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as the next election, to keep myself in power, to

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juice you up to vote the way that they want

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you to vote, so that they and their children and

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their children's children are taking care of going to Sidwell

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Friends and Yale and Harvard and they I think that's

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the opportunity here. Maybe I'm too positive. I've never been

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accused of that before, but I know what you're saying.

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You don't hear that, but that's what I want to hear.

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That's why I guess I need my own show. I

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shouldn't just be a guest. But that's my point though,

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is it's an opportunity if we have good messages, if

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you have Republicans who aren't just thinking about defending Trump

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and Democrats Democrats are so focused on Trump that I

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think it's a real opportunity for ideology to use this

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as what they call a teaching moment. So that's what

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I mean by that.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'll tell you what Princess Diana was on with

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me on and you know her well at the Tricks

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of the Limbald Letter. Of course, we worked with the wonderful,

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beautiful Princess Diana. And one of the things she pointed out,

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she went through all the things that Rush warned people

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about as Obamacare was coming in, including the fact that

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Rush said, look, just you just echoed what I had

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said before. Obamacare was designed to fail. Rush gave a

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timeline to it. Rush said within nine to fifteen years

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of it's going to fail, and the clamoring would be

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there at that point for what Democrats really want, which

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is single payer healthcare, and he expressly said, played it

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out how it's going to go. It is. The timeline

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is happening right now exactly as Rush laid out for this.

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Everything that was promised to the American people under Obamacare

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has failed. Every single promise made was a lie. And

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right now the opportunity should be to make sure that

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that is front and center for the American people. You

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briefly mentioned New York. I want to play you something

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that Governor Hokle said, and I'd like you to just

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talk about for a minute. Let's talk about this Man

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Dami situation in New York cut thirteen. Carlos Man has

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promised the free stuff, more free stuff, and it's going

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to come a taxpayer expense. Of course, Hochel was asked

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about that, and this is what Governor Hokeel, who is

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now facing the challenge from at least Dephonic and she

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but believed me, is concerned about that challenge. And this

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is what Governor Hokeel said.

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Speaker 13: We know that Mom Donnie does want to tax the

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rich more, bring it up about two percent. He can't

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do that on his own. You've previously said that you

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wouldn't be raising taxes. Have you reconsidered that stance.

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Speaker 10: No, I would say, one energetic rally does not get

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me to change my positions, I assure you, But I

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do hear people's voices. I process what everybody says. But

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I'm also have to balance governing this state and making

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sure that those people who are actually the reason we

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have a generous supportive budget that helps lift people up.

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It's their revenues that we tax. One and a half

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percent of New Yorkers cover about us third of our budget.

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That's enormous. I'm concerned about out migration of people who

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are the ones who are sporting our budget. I cannot

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make up for that with middle class tex increases. I

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cannot do that to the middle class in the struggling

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New Yorkers. So this is the balance, I mean, this

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is my position.

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Speaker 8: There's some political reality in that. First of all, there's

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a lot to unpack with that. I think Dean one

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energetic Rally's not going to change my position. Yeah, she

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went out publicly bent to me, kissed his whatever she kissed,

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But she's singing at the end of the day, and

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that one the top one and a half percent of taxpayers,

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the very people that Mandami's claiming he's gonna stick it

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to in order to pay for his free buses, his

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free daycare, all these promises that he made. She's very

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concerned that top one and a half percent bracket of

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taxpayers in New York are responsible for one third of

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New York state budget and if they leave, it's all

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going to crash down. What do you think is going

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to happen in New York. Do you think that there's

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going to be a recalibration to accept reality or people

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are still going to be expecting all the freebies that

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were promised with Mamdani.

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Speaker 1: Well, he used the word reality there, and I think

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that that presupposes that there is an objective reality, and

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I think with a lot of people there isn't that.

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I don't think that people like Mum Donnie, who believe

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what he believes, if he even believes it, I think

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they want to be a king. That was the headline

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of my New York Son column last week was because

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he quoted Eugene V. Debs, a five time socialist candidate

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for president, and they called him King Debs And I said, boy,

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after that, no king's rally. Kind of weird that Mumdannie

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seems to think that he's going to be a king,

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that he could just manifest these things, that he can

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go into houses and take over the houses, that he

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can go into your pocket and take your money. And

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as for Hochel, I don't trust for a minute that

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that's the reality she recognizes. I would say this is

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the persuasion and take of a technique of casing. You know,

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she's gonna say the things people want to hear, Like

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Bill Clinton in nineteen ninety two, I'm gonna give you

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a middle class sax cut, and I swear you are

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going to play less. And then what happened? He was

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in officer maybe what was it three weeks? Six weeks.

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I works harder than I have on anything in my life,

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harder even than putting that astro turf in the back

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of my El Camino. But I just cannot give you

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that tax cut. I promise y'all. And that's what's going

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to happen here. I think they're afraid if she's already

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afraid of, at least dephonic what happens when one of

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Mam Donnie's minions decides they're gonna primary her. I don't

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think Chuck Chumer is afraid of AOC. They're afraid because

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I think that you're accurate. There is an understanding of

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reality for a lot of these older generations of the

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Democratic Party where they do realize, well, we may say

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we're going to do a tax that not like Clinton

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knew that he was snowing everybody. He was fooling us

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and he had no intentions of cutting taxes. He wanted

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to spend more, but you can't say that in the campaign.

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I think the difference is that these people, these representatives

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like Coachel like Schumer, they say, yeah, we're going to

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talk about soaking the rich, We're never really going to

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do it because those are our donors and our buddies.

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Look how much money Chuck Schumer took from Donald Trump

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back when he was just Donald Trump. Right, he basses

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them all down, but they all were lining up to

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take the gravy from the gravy train at Trump Tower.

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And these young communists and socialists they believe this stuff

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and the fact that they only need to look somewhere

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like Venezuela. Look at Argentina, which one hundred years ago

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was one of the wealthiest countries in the world. Look

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at North Korea where Gus Hall, who John Brennan voted

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for president and said that's the future. Look at the

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Soviet Union, and you have people like George Wills, who

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are theoretically conservative, saying, yeah, let a socialist win in

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New York City because we need people to see an example. Well,

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is the last three bodies on top of the pile

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of hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dead from communism,

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all the suffering from Marxism and socialism is the last three.

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Why because they're from New York. But if Georgia wants

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to ruin a city with socialism, elect a socialist in

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Baltimore's you know it is New York.

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Speaker 4: They already have.

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Speaker 8: They have is their version of it. That's what the

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Democrat Party is. Dean, we got it. That's always a pleasure,

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and man, we gotta do this more often, Dean.

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Speaker 1: I would be happy to have to find people in

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your audience want me back. It's always an honor to

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be on the Blowtorts seventy seven WABC.

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Speaker 8: Well, yes, well this show is now syndicated, Dean. We

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are in many many markets besides New York.

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Speaker 1: So how about that that I am sul Baltimore. Sorry Baltimore.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they heard you too, so Dean, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your love.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, Dean. Dean terryannas Lady and gentlemen, our historian,

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the official historian of both Snarles Rush Hour. James Golden

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is nerdly coming back. Don't go away, Rush This is.

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Speaker 5: The Rush Hour with James goldenly The Rush Hour with

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Speaker 9: On the Red Apple podcast network.

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Speaker 4: It's The Rush Hour with James Golden, both by the

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student in most Nerdly Rush Now yours James Golden.

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Speaker 8: All right, my friends, we leave you today remembering Big Bank.

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Hank Hank Lee Jackson from the Sugarhill Gang passed away

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on this day in twenty fourteen. He was fifty eight

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years old. The sugar Hill Gang the first hip hot

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act ever to have a crossover single, and they blew

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up all around the country with this one. Of course,

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the first rap record in America really belongs to Gary Bird.

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That's a whole nother story. Of course, rappers delight in

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nineteen seventy nine, and boyle boy, what's sprung from this success?

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We gotta go. May God bless protect each and every

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single one of you, your family's you're our loved ones.

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Love and gratitude my friends for your being here with me,

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allowing me to be with you, God willing. We have

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back tomorrow for the Wednesday edition of both Nerdley's Rush Hour.

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Until then, I bid you ado bye.

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Speaker 4: What the heck is going on here