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<v Speaker 1>Ay thirty fifty five KRCD talk Station Happy two Yay

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Davis, Steve Dive. We got a message from your

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<v Speaker 1>handler retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis, that you are not

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<v Speaker 1>feeling up to snuff this morning, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing the segment and there you are. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>pleased that you're here today, sir. Thank your volumes down,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe says your microphone may not be on. I can

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<v Speaker 1>see you anyway, now the hell's bells. Goodness, there you go. Second,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, there you go. Yeah, anyway, glad to

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<v Speaker 1>see you and hear you, so welcome back. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's hit the ground running on this. I understand that

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<v Speaker 1>it's been widely reported the words pissed off for you,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is pissed off with Vladimir Putin? What's this one

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<v Speaker 1>all about, mister Davis or Lieutenant Davis?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean you can see are you pissed off

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<v Speaker 3>at Vladimir Putin? Are you pissed off at Zelensky? Because

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<v Speaker 3>the entrargy both is yes, He's actually been mad at

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<v Speaker 3>both of them. One of the big problems for from

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<v Speaker 3>the Russian perspective is that Russia is not agreed to

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<v Speaker 3>thinks the way that Trump thinks.

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<v Speaker 1>That they should.

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<v Speaker 3>There's actually news out this morning from the Deputy four

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<v Speaker 3>Minister Riebkov, who said, hey, look, we're interested in talking

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<v Speaker 3>about this ceasefire, but only in contemption with solving the

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<v Speaker 3>causes of the war. Uh. And so far the United

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<v Speaker 3>States doesn't want to talk about that. They just want

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<v Speaker 3>to get mineral deals or whatever. So you know, Russian conditions,

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<v Speaker 3>they say, there's no NATO, there's a demilitarization, demnazification they

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<v Speaker 3>call it, which is means Zelensky has to go and

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<v Speaker 3>they get all territory as well. So far are the

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<v Speaker 3>university talked to that? And apparently Trump is not happy

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<v Speaker 3>that Putin is not willing to talk talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>ceasefire until he gets the other stuff done.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, So it's pissed off all around. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of being pissed off goes multiple ways now in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of your perception. And I'm maybe coming out of left

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<v Speaker 1>field to ask you this because I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>have done polls on the ground, but maybe someone has.

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<v Speaker 1>If they were to hold elections in Ukraine, is it

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<v Speaker 1>certain that Zelensky would be re elected? I mean, couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>they quote unquote de nazify and get Zelenski out there

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<v Speaker 1>just by holding open elections.

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<v Speaker 3>It is possible, though I do talk to to people

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<v Speaker 3>who are on the grounded KIV and they say that

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<v Speaker 3>because he has controls Lenski does over all of the media,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, he gets to control the narrative and

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<v Speaker 3>he has control over who's running, et cetera, that it's

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<v Speaker 3>likely that he would be elected. But then again, it's

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<v Speaker 3>also uncertain because there are many in the West, especially

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<v Speaker 3>in Great Britain, that would prefer a different leader to

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<v Speaker 3>deal with a guy who's a former I guess actually

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<v Speaker 3>is a current and bachelor to the UK is as

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<v Speaker 3>illusion to form the general. So it's actually not at

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<v Speaker 3>all clear who would win. But Russia just says, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>the main thing is it's got to be legitimate who

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<v Speaker 3>passed an election age knowledge, even if it's got to

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<v Speaker 3>be somebody who passed an election.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Another component of this, and you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>referenced in a moment ago, we're talking about the anger

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<v Speaker 1>that's going away among the three parties hear Us, Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>and Russia. There was a lot of talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>proposed mineral deal where the United States will be able

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<v Speaker 1>to access a lot of the minerals that are apparently

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<v Speaker 1>in Ukraine. I always heard that it was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>in payment for all of the money that we have

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<v Speaker 1>given them in terms of aid so far. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you guys kind of owe us, and why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you let us tap into your mental reserves and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll split the profits or at least sharing that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not quite sure what's yours. Zelensky's position is on that,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently he is. It's been suggested he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>back out of that proposal. Where does that stand right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's one of the things that the other thing

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<v Speaker 3>that made Trump unhappy because Zelensky is wanting to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>let's renegotiate a deal. So he wants h he wants

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<v Speaker 3>he wants to go back again to read uh and

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<v Speaker 3>analyze the situation to for NATO. He says, hey, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>give you this mineral. Well, we want to get it

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<v Speaker 3>to NATO too. Uh And by the way, the percentages,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not working for me yet. So he's trying to

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<v Speaker 3>renegotiate the deal after the fact, and of course we've

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<v Speaker 3>had huge problems with this mineral still getting passed. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean with we sent Bison to Kiev to sign a deal,

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<v Speaker 3>Zilensky didn't sign it. Then we had the deficulty on

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<v Speaker 3>the Oval Office situation, we didn't sign it. Now then

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<v Speaker 3>here's another situation, and then now Lensky's wanting to go back,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think he's playing dangerous games. Lensky is because

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<v Speaker 3>he has no leverage here with either Russia and militarily

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<v Speaker 3>or the US diplomatically, so he seems to be making

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<v Speaker 3>everybody angry in that. This just I don't think is

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<v Speaker 3>going to work out well for Ukraine or Zelenski himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Obviously critical to this getting resolved on any level,

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<v Speaker 1>least from Swazielenski's perspective is being in into NATO. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not quite sure the United States is in favor of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But where are the rest of the NATO countries they

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<v Speaker 1>get to say in this, and are they liking the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of getting Ukraine to be a part of NATO.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, President Trump I just categorically said both in Air

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<v Speaker 3>Force one and is.

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<v Speaker 2>Overlook his desk.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess yesterday he said that ain't happened. Just categorically, No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not happening. But it's funny because the Western European

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<v Speaker 3>nicians have been wanting to talk about the possibility of

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<v Speaker 3>this and say you know someday, not now, but some day.

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<v Speaker 3>But behind the scenes, everybody knows and they have from

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<v Speaker 3>before the war started. Ukraine will never be in NATO.

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<v Speaker 3>But instead of just acknowledging that self evident reality, they

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<v Speaker 3>keep the lip service going, which keeps Zelensky thinking he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to get in it gets more of their people killed.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the end of the day, there is no

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<v Speaker 3>chance for it now or later.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it seems to me to be prudent at this

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<v Speaker 1>juncture if not previously, and I would have argued been

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<v Speaker 1>navigated for previously, someone just to sort of verbally slap

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<v Speaker 1>Zelensky in the face and making face up to the

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<v Speaker 1>cold water dose reality. Dude, you're not getting into NATO,

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<v Speaker 1>So take that demand off the table or your people

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<v Speaker 1>are going to continue to get slaughtered and the Russia

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<v Speaker 1>is going to continue to make inroads into your country.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I'll also add to that, and if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't stop this, we're gonna stop. Even given the verbal.

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<v Speaker 1>Cover through, it ain't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's move on to whatever's next, which is getting

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<v Speaker 3>this war over with at the least cost possible to

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<v Speaker 3>the Ukraine side. That's what they should be going after

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<v Speaker 3>that's what's actually possible. But if you keep going down

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<v Speaker 3>the fiction path both are Ukraine and for Europe, it's

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<v Speaker 3>never gonna happen. In what that leaves is Russia hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>stopped anything right now. I mean even these these fires

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<v Speaker 3>haven't actually been implemented yet. So Russia is just continuing

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<v Speaker 3>to fight and they're continuing to win ground every day.

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<v Speaker 3>Ukraine soldiers are dying every day. This is not this

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<v Speaker 3>is a zero sum situation. Is the longer you delay

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<v Speaker 3>from Zelenski and the European side, the more likely the

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<v Speaker 3>chances to you physically lose the war, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>don't get to negotiate anything. That's what they haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>Come to grip with yet. Wow. Well, and pivoting over

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<v Speaker 1>to the Russia and a China relationship, My how times

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<v Speaker 1>have changed my recollections. We normalize relations with China in

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<v Speaker 1>order to separate them from the former Soviet Union, and

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<v Speaker 1>now they seem to embracing each other with I guess

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<v Speaker 1>Jizen Ping saying the other day that we're Russia and

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<v Speaker 1>China our friends forever, never enemies. What does this suggest

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<v Speaker 1>to you, Daniel Davis, Well, this has been.

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<v Speaker 3>One of my concerns from the beginning. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>going all the way back into the nineteen seventies with

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<v Speaker 3>President Dixon. I has always separate and to not brotten together.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, the Biden administration on steroids just drove them.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like you know, hot speed and directions together

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<v Speaker 3>gave both sides every incentive to work together, along with

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<v Speaker 3>Iran and North Korea. As a matter of fact, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean add all that together. None of it was necessary,

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<v Speaker 3>None of it existed product of February twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, there was distance. There was some closeness

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<v Speaker 3>between the two, between the four parties, but there was

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<v Speaker 3>a space between all four. Even Russia and China had

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<v Speaker 3>some differences. Now then those have been almost eliminated. And

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<v Speaker 3>if we have outright military lines with both Korea and Iran,

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<v Speaker 3>with Russia and then you know, now, then you have

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<v Speaker 3>the situation to where they have more incentive to continue

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<v Speaker 3>to stay together. So far, I think Trump is trying

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<v Speaker 3>to put a little distance between the two. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>better than what it was. But right now it's not

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<v Speaker 3>helping out because Russia is not getting what they want,

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<v Speaker 3>so they don't have any incentive to break anything with China.

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<v Speaker 3>China is helping them both diplomatically and with other non

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<v Speaker 3>military means which have dual use purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course China can gobble up all the energy

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<v Speaker 1>it needs and get a lot of it from Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's sort of that forces them to embrace each

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<v Speaker 1>other given global sanctions on Russian oil exports and Iranian exports.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just pushing all those that access closer and

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<v Speaker 1>closer together every day. Well, yeah, it and that's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for us.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, anytime that you know, any potential adversaries of

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<v Speaker 3>the United States are coming together and work in cooperation,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not good for us. And so we should say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>let's stop that process. And I mean, look that the

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<v Speaker 3>best way is to just de escalate tensions so that

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have anyone of the reason to want to

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<v Speaker 3>oppose you. Instead of find areas of common benefits, say hey,

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<v Speaker 3>where can we find win win situations here if that

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<v Speaker 3>benefits America. And it's not weakness as some I'm we're

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<v Speaker 3>sualy in the West seem to advocate where they just

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<v Speaker 3>want nothing but a confrontational approach, thinking there's never any

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<v Speaker 3>consequence for it. But there is, and we can we

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<v Speaker 3>do have enough leverage to actually improve all those situations

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<v Speaker 3>that I hope the Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Administration doesn't amen to that. Daniel Davis Deep, I've always

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<v Speaker 1>a great pleasure having in the program. Glad it worked

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<v Speaker 1>out today. Good to see as always. We'll talk next Tuesday.

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