1 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:35,399 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho. 2 00:00:35,799 --> 00:00:40,320 This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're 3 00:00:40,359 --> 00:00:44,920 going to bring you this week's episode of Dragnant. But 4 00:00:45,119 --> 00:00:48,240 first I do want to encourage you. If you're enjoying 5 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:53,039 the podcast, please follow us using your favorite podcast software. 6 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,960 But before I do anything else, I do want to 7 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,719 do what I wanted to do yesterday and recognize our 8 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,239 platinum Patreon supporters. And I want to go ahead and 9 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,920 thank Lisa and James, both of whom have been supporting 10 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:15,000 the podcast since April of twenty sixteen. Again, thank you 11 00:01:15,239 --> 00:01:21,959 so much for your support. Now, from January tenth, nineteen 12 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:32,879 fifty two, here is the Big Red, Part two. 13 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true. The 14 00:01:38,519 --> 00:01:49,560 names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a 15 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,519 detective sergeant. You're assigned in narcotics detail. You're in the 16 00:01:53,519 --> 00:01:55,560 middle of a drive to break up one hundred thousand 17 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,680 dollars narcotics ring. You apprehend two of the lesser gang members. 18 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,280 You still haven't reached the big operation. You still haven't 19 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:17,960 found their store of heroin your job get them Dragnet. 20 00:02:18,319 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 3: The documented drama of an actual crime. For the next 21 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,840 thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, 22 00:02:25,319 --> 00:02:27,439 you will travel step by step on the side of 23 00:02:27,439 --> 00:02:31,000 the law through an actual case transcribed from official police violence, 24 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,560 from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is 25 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:37,479 the story of your police force in action. 26 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 4: It was Sunday, August fourteenth. It was cool in Los Angeles. 27 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,639 We're working a special detail on a narcotics division. My 28 00:02:49,719 --> 00:02:53,120 partner's Ed Jacobs. The boss is Captain Kearney. My name's Friday. 29 00:02:53,599 --> 00:02:55,400 There was one twenty three am when I got the 30 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,199 fifth and series Southwest. 31 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 5: Corner hije Ed, Captain. We've been waiting long. 32 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,599 Speaker 6: Just got here, all right, chickens, you can't. 33 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,199 Speaker 5: What'd you finally book? 34 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 6: In? 35 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:08,879 Speaker 5: The two of them? 36 00:03:09,159 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 6: Seventy seventh division substation Watch. 37 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 7: Perry here is willing to cooperate, told us everything he 38 00:03:14,159 --> 00:03:15,000 knows about the game. 39 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 8: I'm glad you feel that way, you stand, You won't 40 00:03:17,159 --> 00:03:21,960 regret it. Yeah, what's the matter? I hope it helps 41 00:03:22,439 --> 00:03:24,280 Read and the other guys find out about it. It's 42 00:03:24,319 --> 00:03:26,599 gonna be rough, and're not gonna find out from us. 43 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,560 We're heading out for East Hollywood. 44 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,159 Speaker 7: Joe apartment house out there, Perry says, that's where Red 45 00:03:31,159 --> 00:03:32,000 makes his pickups. 46 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,159 Speaker 8: We're about to sad stand I know the address, I 47 00:03:35,199 --> 00:03:37,560 know the neighborhood, though, I'll recognize the place when I 48 00:03:37,599 --> 00:03:37,879 see it. 49 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,759 Speaker 6: How you feel now, Stan? Any better? Oh? Lousy sugard. 50 00:03:42,759 --> 00:03:45,240 Here's a fix about now. Sorry, Perry just can't help 51 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:45,520 you there. 52 00:03:45,639 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 4: How are you gonna handle this thing, Captain? I mean 53 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,240 picking up Stan and Max Higby? You figure we can 54 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:49,879 keep it quiet? 55 00:03:50,199 --> 00:03:52,439 Speaker 7: Newspapers are going to cooperate. They're not gonna print a 56 00:03:52,439 --> 00:03:53,039 word about it. 57 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 6: I'm gonna handle a court work. 58 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 9: Stan and Max are gonna wave there preliminary Oh, to 59 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,639 give us five to six weeks quiet if we needed. 60 00:04:00,039 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 6: You can't reach the rest of the gang. But then 61 00:04:01,439 --> 00:04:05,159 we'll never reach them. Sure, feel lousy sick? I never 62 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,479 tried to kick the habit before. How long does it take? 63 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,719 Speaker 5: It all depends how bad are you hook? 64 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 6: Oh? 65 00:04:10,039 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 10: Not bad. 66 00:04:10,919 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 6: I'm just chippy with it? Not more in a cap 67 00:04:12,719 --> 00:04:17,000 a day? Where are we going out of Stan? Keep 68 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:17,560 going straight? 69 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? 70 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 6: Straight ahead? Turn off snuft for a while. 71 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 5: Yet, Well, how do you figure it from here on in? Captain? 72 00:04:23,439 --> 00:04:24,439 What do I do about Red? 73 00:04:25,079 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 7: You're gonna have to con your way through. I had 74 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,560 the crime lad to fix up a dummy package for you. 75 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,600 I'm a seat thick as the same rappings as the one. 76 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:35,120 The real stuff came in package Stan gave you in 77 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,839 the restaurant. Take it back to Red and scream your 78 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,439 head off. Yeah, you're telling me you got the package 79 00:04:40,439 --> 00:04:42,279 from Stan and Max and you paid them the six 80 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,439 geese for it. You opened it up and found it 81 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,000 pull of powdered sugar bread them off. Put it on big. 82 00:04:47,879 --> 00:04:48,480 You got a gun? 83 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 5: No, I haven't. I checked it in my locker when 84 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,120 I started on this sort. 85 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,639 Speaker 7: Take mine bay, make it heavy. Pretend you're going to 86 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,560 gun him. What if it doesn't work, skipping that's taken 87 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,160 care of too. There'll be a couple of men on 88 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,079 the street, Joe. If you get your back to a wall, 89 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:03,439 break the window, they'll come running. 90 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 5: Okay, I'll give it a try. You think Red still 91 00:05:06,879 --> 00:05:08,240 his hotel? Stand sure? 92 00:05:08,399 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 6: It's probably waiting for me and Max. 93 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,199 Speaker 5: Anybody with him. You think no? 94 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 4: I don't think so, all right, Bet, I wonder if 95 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,839 you'd call my mother the first chance you gets. 96 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 5: You might be a little worried. 97 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,399 Speaker 9: You don't have to. She called the office before we lap. Oh, 98 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,439 I think I convinced her everything was rying. 99 00:05:22,519 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 7: Oh, thanks a lot, Yeah, that's it. We'll let you 100 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,160 out at the next corner. Head back for the hotel. Right, 101 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:35,959 good luck, Joe, Thanks, how about it, Perish anything else 102 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,279 you can give us, it might help him. 103 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,079 Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm gonna take a lot of fun. 104 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:41,800 Only one way you can get that. 105 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, you better get yourself a good fix. 106 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 4: I left Captain kearney ed Jacobs in the Narcotic Suspect 107 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,399 Stan Perish on the corner of Western and Wiltshire and 108 00:05:55,439 --> 00:05:58,199 made my way to Red's hotel on West fifty fourth Street. 109 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,680 I went up to the second floor on found his 110 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:01,319 door open. 111 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 5: I walked in. 112 00:06:02,759 --> 00:06:05,199 Speaker 4: Red was sitting in an overstuffed chair next to the radio, 113 00:06:05,319 --> 00:06:06,920 listening to the police calls coming in. 114 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,439 Speaker 6: It's why the gun. 115 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 5: Don't try any your cunning this time. You're two bit 116 00:06:12,319 --> 00:06:13,199 with it, no matter with you. 117 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 6: Put the gun down, No, not. 118 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 5: Before I get what's coming to me? You and your 119 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:16,439 lousy punks. 120 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,519 Speaker 6: What are you talking about? Where's standing Max dead? 121 00:06:18,519 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 4: I hope that leaves only you to deal with. I 122 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,759 should have known better the first time when you had 123 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:22,920 me tamp I should have gotten out right. 124 00:06:22,959 --> 00:06:23,879 Speaker 5: Then what's your craw? 125 00:06:23,959 --> 00:06:24,959 Speaker 6: Guy? Come on, let's settle. 126 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,439 Speaker 5: You know what I look for yourself? Six g's worth, 127 00:06:27,439 --> 00:06:29,120 powdered sugar. You didn't think he could beat me for this, 128 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:29,360 did you? 129 00:06:29,399 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 6: I don't know what you're talking about. 130 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:32,199 Speaker 4: There's more in this than me. If you don't square 131 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,680 up this thing with us, there's ways of taking care 132 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,240 of you. I'm on the lamb anyway. Now, one more 133 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,000 Beefer is gonna make that. 134 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,959 Speaker 6: Much a gun down? Will you? Now, let's talk it out. 135 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,199 It doesn't make sense if you've been beaten so of I. 136 00:06:40,079 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 5: I will try to sell me that line. Get both 137 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:42,920 of them out. I know they're here, now, come on, 138 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:43,480 get them out here. 139 00:06:43,519 --> 00:06:44,399 Speaker 6: We watch that gun? 140 00:06:44,439 --> 00:06:44,639 Speaker 5: Were you? 141 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 11: I don't know what you're getting at, lindsay they're not here. 142 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,199 Didn't you see him? Max and staining h I saw him. 143 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 4: That's why I'm here. I gave him the money, six 144 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,720 yards of it, and that's what I got, powdered sugar. 145 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,920 And you start explaining, smart guy, it's the truth. 146 00:06:54,959 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 11: I don't know where they are. I gave Stan and 147 00:06:56,519 --> 00:06:58,800 Max twenty ounces to take to you. I told Stan 148 00:06:58,879 --> 00:07:00,480 and make the meat with you inside. The rest of 149 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:01,720 max is supposed to be the look at it. 150 00:07:01,759 --> 00:07:02,879 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, sure, so help me. 151 00:07:03,079 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 11: I don't get it. You have never tried anything like 152 00:07:05,519 --> 00:07:07,439 this before. Once you tipped off at all. Maybe the 153 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,319 way they acted something I said. 154 00:07:09,079 --> 00:07:11,279 Speaker 4: Oh, nothing, that moot. Stan was a little unhappy. He 155 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:12,639 said he wanted to fix and you wouldn't give it 156 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:12,920 on him. 157 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 5: That's right, I wouldn't, well, and you should have known better. 158 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,439 It's no time to get stingy with him when he's 159 00:07:16,439 --> 00:07:17,240 gonna make a deal for you. 160 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 11: You know what happened the last time he took a 161 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,360 fix before a job. I sent him out to that 162 00:07:20,399 --> 00:07:22,959 park to watch you. He ends up by tamping. I'm 163 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,160 leveling with you, Lindsay. I think we've both been taken. 164 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:27,079 I still don't get it, though, I can't understand why 165 00:07:27,079 --> 00:07:27,839 they'd run out on me. 166 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:28,079 Speaker 5: Now. 167 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 4: Look, I haven't got the time to draw you pictures, mister. 168 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:31,680 All I know is Mike Do's gone and you haven't 169 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:32,920 delivered the stuff. Now you get with it. 170 00:07:32,959 --> 00:07:35,279 Speaker 6: I'll wait, I'm minute. How do I know for sure? 171 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:35,519 Speaker 5: What? 172 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 6: How do I know? 173 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 11: You didn't get the real merchandise and you took care 174 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,279 of maxims. Stand, how do I know you didn't build 175 00:07:40,279 --> 00:07:40,560 a frame? 176 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 5: Oh? 177 00:07:40,839 --> 00:07:42,839 Speaker 4: Sure, that's why I'm back here. I got twenty ounces 178 00:07:42,839 --> 00:07:45,120 free and I want another twenty. I met those mooches 179 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,639 of yours and took care of them all by myself. 180 00:07:46,639 --> 00:07:48,480 Now that makes a lot of sense, doesn't it. Now, 181 00:07:48,519 --> 00:07:50,560 get off at Red. You're not going to pour them 182 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:51,959 mouth of me out of this. I paid my six 183 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,920 g's and I want the merchandise full, twenty ounces, and 184 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:54,279 I want. 185 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 5: It right now. 186 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,639 Speaker 11: Crazy, I can't do that. You have to give me time. 187 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,240 We don't keep this stuff here. It isn't mine in 188 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:58,800 the first place. 189 00:07:58,839 --> 00:07:59,519 Speaker 5: What are you handed me? 190 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 11: It isn't I'm just a middleman, that's all. You'll have 191 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,920 to give me time. Maybe we can work out something 192 00:08:03,959 --> 00:08:04,199 for you. 193 00:08:04,399 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 4: You bet you're going to work out something for me. 194 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,680 You've got my six g's. Why'd you try and big 195 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,639 shot me in the first place? 196 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 6: Calm down? 197 00:08:09,399 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: Trying to make me believe you were the big man. 198 00:08:11,519 --> 00:08:13,480 You gotta get wise to yourself. Read why should I 199 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:15,360 deal with a middleman? I can probably buy the junk 200 00:08:15,439 --> 00:08:16,800 cheaper from your boss. Now, where's heat? 201 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:18,639 Speaker 11: You couldn't buy it a two g's an ounce he 202 00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:20,360 wouldn't sell it to you. I handle all this stuff. 203 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,480 I'm the only one he works through. 204 00:08:21,639 --> 00:08:23,399 Speaker 4: What makes you so special? You can't even handle a 205 00:08:23,439 --> 00:08:24,759 twenty houns deal and keep it straight? 206 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 6: Stay cool? Will you give me twenty four hours? 207 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 5: What am I supposed to be doing in the meantime. 208 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,319 Speaker 6: Same thing I'll be doing, worrying about getting that stuff back? 209 00:08:30,439 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 5: Why try and cover up your mooch? Is Red out 210 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:32,399 on you? 211 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 11: Maybe I want to make sure I'll get the word out. Yeah, 212 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,879 I'll find out what happened before I left Red. 213 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 4: We set up a meet for the following night in 214 00:08:40,879 --> 00:08:44,120 his hotel room at seven pm. Then I left, went 215 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:46,120 downtown to an all night drug store and put in 216 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,759 calls to Captain Kearney and my partner at Jacobs. 217 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,159 Speaker 5: I briefed him on what had. 218 00:08:50,039 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 4: Happened with Red, and the Captain set it up for 219 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:54,039 the three of us to meet early that morning and 220 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,039 plan the next move. 221 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 5: The meeting point was down off Gallardo Street, alongside the 222 00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:59,679 Santa Fe train yards. 223 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 6: Y'all over here, Hi ed Cap. Hi. 224 00:09:08,639 --> 00:09:09,159 Speaker 5: A little late. 225 00:09:09,279 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 6: Anything happened, but I did some doubling back. 226 00:09:11,279 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 5: I wanted to make sure. 227 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,639 Speaker 6: I wasn't followed things worked out with Red high not trouble? 228 00:09:14,759 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 5: Why not so far? 229 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 6: No? 230 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 5: I think he went for my story. 231 00:09:17,639 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 4: He said he's going to do some checking around though, 232 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,360 try to find out what happened to standon Max. 233 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:24,159 Speaker 9: Yeah, halfway figured then that story you told him. I 234 00:09:24,159 --> 00:09:25,519 thought if Red bought that, you'd be in. 235 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,279 Speaker 5: We didn't buy it that far. I guess it made 236 00:09:29,279 --> 00:09:31,799 an impression. Waving again. Nobody still has some doubts. 237 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 6: What else can you do to get yourself in solid? 238 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,279 You tried about it everything, Joe. I've been kicking around 239 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:39,240 an idea. It might work for you. I don't know. 240 00:09:40,399 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 7: Put on a phony shakedown for him might give you 241 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:45,200 a chance to show him how tough you're supposed to be. 242 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 6: What do you think? 243 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 5: Well, maybe I ought to help out. If we stage 244 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:50,600 it right. 245 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:52,279 Speaker 6: When's your next meet with Red? 246 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,759 Speaker 5: Seven o'clock tonight his hotel, room. 247 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,399 Speaker 6: Two thirty one, then be honest or right? 248 00:09:56,879 --> 00:09:57,759 Speaker 5: How do you want to work it? 249 00:09:58,159 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 7: Oh, I'll get a couple of men from metro Vision, 250 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,480 have him in uniform. We better have him work in 251 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,279 a radio car. We're gonna have to have a good 252 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:07,360 reason for him breaking in on you. How about a 253 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,600 four or fifteen. Skipper Joe could go up to the room, 254 00:10:09,639 --> 00:10:11,399 pick an argument with the Red and make noise a lot, 255 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:12,000 a lot talking. 256 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, that sounds okay. 257 00:10:13,919 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 7: All right, both of the men in the radio car'll 258 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,919 be thoroughly briefed. You'll know what to do Friday. You 259 00:10:19,039 --> 00:10:21,039 out to sell yourself. Act as tough as you think 260 00:10:21,039 --> 00:10:23,000 you have to. All right, don't give it a try, 261 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,639 play it after the hilt. You give Red the least 262 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,799 idea of the shakedowns a phony, and we're washed up. 263 00:10:28,039 --> 00:10:30,360 No phone, meet the off as soon as you can 264 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,759 the inside line. We'll be waiting for the call. 265 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,159 Speaker 4: Right, It's just one more thing. Yeah, how about that 266 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,200 apartment house. Dan was gonna show you last night, the 267 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,960 place where Red's supposed to pick up the junk. 268 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 6: He pointed the place out. All right, it's gonna take 269 00:10:42,399 --> 00:10:42,879 some checking. 270 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 5: What do you mean? 271 00:10:43,759 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 9: Stan said? He drove read to this apartment house about 272 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,039 a dozen times. I always had to stay in the car. 273 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,399 They were Red one in alone. Didn't know which apartment 274 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:50,919 Red went to. 275 00:10:51,399 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 5: Can't we check him out him? 276 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:53,399 Speaker 6: We got some men on it. 277 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 5: Now. 278 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,159 Speaker 7: I'm gonna take a little time. Big layout, all right, 279 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:01,120 forty seven apartments, I. 280 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 4: Left dead and Captain Kearney and caught a street car 281 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,480 back to my hotel. I had some scrambled eggs, toasting 282 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,279 coffee and the grill next door, and then I went 283 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,279 up to my room and got. 284 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,159 Speaker 5: A couple hours sleep. 285 00:11:10,879 --> 00:11:12,919 Speaker 4: Late that afternoon, I took in the show at a 286 00:11:12,919 --> 00:11:15,240 newsreel theater, had a bite eat, and then headed out 287 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,600 for Red's hotel on West fifty fourth Street. I got 288 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,320 there a few minutes before seven. Red was waiting, apparently 289 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,679 failed to dig up any information on what had happened 290 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,919 to his two operators standing max. I accused him again 291 00:11:27,919 --> 00:11:30,200 of trying to swindle me out of six thousand dollars. 292 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,960 I demanded the twenty ounces of heroin. Red had nothing to. 293 00:11:33,919 --> 00:11:34,919 Speaker 5: Offer, but apologies. 294 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 6: All right, all right, relax, Will you take it easy. 295 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:39,559 I'll work out something. 296 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 5: Take it easy. Nothing you do enough of that for 297 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,440 the both of us. You sit there and listen to 298 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:42,799 that radio. 299 00:11:42,799 --> 00:11:44,159 Speaker 4: Why don't you ge out and hustle up those two 300 00:11:44,159 --> 00:11:45,440 mooches of yours and get my dough ball? 301 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:45,759 Speaker 5: All right? 302 00:11:45,759 --> 00:11:47,399 Speaker 6: All right, you don't have the scream. I said, I'd 303 00:11:47,399 --> 00:11:48,159 work something out. 304 00:11:48,039 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 5: All right, then start working. Get it the dough or 305 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:51,519 the white stuff. I gotta have it at the end 306 00:11:51,519 --> 00:11:51,840 of the week. 307 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 6: What do you want to do? Have it all over 308 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,000 the hotel? Keep it down? 309 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 5: Why you take me for six g's and I'm supposed 310 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,159 to play it nice. Now, come off it, mister. 311 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,799 Speaker 6: I didn't take it for six cheese. 312 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,919 Speaker 5: Those two mules did, and you own them. Either you 313 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:02,440 square this. 314 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:03,759 Speaker 4: Up or everybody in the business is going to know 315 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:04,159 about this. 316 00:12:04,159 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 6: It's got into you anyway. You've been boozing it up today. 317 00:12:06,279 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 5: Don't you worry about me. I'll take care of my end. 318 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:12,799 Speaker 4: Real big operator, huh right, you had all the h 319 00:12:12,919 --> 00:12:14,080 you handled everything. 320 00:12:13,799 --> 00:12:14,759 Speaker 5: A real big shot out. 321 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:15,759 Speaker 6: I forget it. 322 00:12:15,919 --> 00:12:18,759 Speaker 5: Read the big wheel. He handles all kinds of deals 323 00:12:18,799 --> 00:12:20,840 fifty cents to five dollars. After that, they get. 324 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 6: Too big for it. I said, forget it, Lindsay. 325 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 4: When this one gets around, they're gonna laugh you right 326 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,879 out of the business. You can go back to selling 327 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,679 razor blades and knock that radio off. I'm sick of 328 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:29,000 hearing that. 329 00:12:31,279 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 6: You got quiet down. 330 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,399 Speaker 5: Do you think you're ready to handle it? 331 00:12:33,399 --> 00:12:33,639 Speaker 6: Do you? 332 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,399 Speaker 11: I told you I'd try and work out something for you, 333 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,759 and I'm playing tough. It's gonna get your nothing. 334 00:12:36,799 --> 00:12:39,039 Speaker 6: You want to know that? What's it? 335 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,879 Speaker 5: What's it sound like? Yeah? Who is it? Police officer 336 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,759 is helping up? What is this? 337 00:12:44,919 --> 00:12:45,519 Speaker 6: What do you got me? 338 00:12:45,799 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: What do you take it? 339 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 12: Easy? 340 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,399 Speaker 6: You can't take guess right? 341 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 13: All right? 342 00:12:49,799 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 12: Up and up? 343 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,639 Speaker 5: But I'm getting out of here. I'm not going to 344 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:52,799 any shake down your mind? 345 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:57,039 Speaker 6: Hold it. I didn't mean you keep you waiting? 346 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 5: Come on in. 347 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 6: That's all the noise about up here. Nothing just saying 348 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,759 a friendly argument. That's it, that's your identification. Sure you'll 349 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:10,799 stay put? Yeah, Harry, better shake him down? Yeah right? 350 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,559 All right? Back against the wall. Come on, hands behind 351 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:16,440 your head, keep him here. 352 00:13:19,159 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: Today? 353 00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:25,399 Speaker 5: Grab the other one? All right? Good, both of them? 354 00:13:25,519 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 6: You crazy fool? Now what do we do? 355 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: I don't have to worry about the other one. He's 356 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,000 out cold. Take the gun off this one here, I'll 357 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:30,799 get his handcuffs. 358 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:32,279 Speaker 5: Good. 359 00:13:33,039 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 6: Why'd you have to do it? Why did you have 360 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:35,039 to start something? 361 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:36,919 Speaker 5: I can't afford a shakedown? You want to know that? 362 00:13:37,399 --> 00:13:39,399 Speaker 6: Better give it up both here. You're not going and 363 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:39,960 get away with it? 364 00:13:40,039 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 5: And shut up. 365 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 6: You won't go far. 366 00:13:44,399 --> 00:13:46,519 Speaker 4: Come on right, help me drag him over here. What 367 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,679 are you gonna do a bedpost here, like, get his 368 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:49,480 wrists around here. 369 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 6: That's it. 370 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 5: I don't know. 371 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 6: Hold him ends here out of your mind? What do 372 00:13:56,519 --> 00:13:57,159 we do with him now? 373 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 5: I'll worry about that. How's his partner doing? He's still 374 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,919 out all right? Now? Cop, let's have it. What's the 375 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:04,919 idea of the shakedown? 376 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,919 Speaker 6: Well we pick you up again, you'll get the idea. 377 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:09,159 Speaker 5: Come on, let's have it. 378 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,759 Speaker 6: Why don't you lay off? It's not going to get 379 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:11,519 us out of this for. 380 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,039 Speaker 5: A big dealer. You got a lot of chicken in 381 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,279 you now, look cop, give why they shake down? 382 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 6: You're wasting your time. 383 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 5: Maybe I can change your. 384 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 6: Mind, lindsay you're crazy. Put that gun away? 385 00:14:21,519 --> 00:14:23,399 Speaker 5: Now, come on, cop, talk who gave you the tip? 386 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:24,000 Gun away? 387 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,279 Speaker 6: It's only going to get us in deeper. 388 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,559 Speaker 4: I want some answers. These buzz didn't come along by accident. 389 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,360 There had to be a tip off. 390 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 6: How do you know? 391 00:14:29,279 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 11: You were talking up a storm in here, making a 392 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,720 lot of noise. Somebody in the hotel could have complained. 393 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,000 Come on, come on, get. 394 00:14:33,919 --> 00:14:35,039 Speaker 5: Out of here and leave the two of them behind 395 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,360 to identify us. That ain't gonna work. 396 00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 6: It's got to what else can we do? We can 397 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,120 kill him out of your mind. 398 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 5: I can kill him right now. The probably wouldn't find 399 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:42,919 him in the morning. 400 00:14:42,879 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 6: Or you'll do it alone. Lindsay, I'm getting out. 401 00:14:44,519 --> 00:14:45,639 Speaker 5: We still got business to do. 402 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 11: I'm not looking for a murder right now. Come on, 403 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,320 get it up, Let's get out of here. 404 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,159 Speaker 4: As soon as we leave, we're gonna have to start running. 405 00:14:50,559 --> 00:14:51,720 I won't be good for more in a day. 406 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 5: In this time. What I would do about my deal? 407 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 6: Come on, we can talk about it later. 408 00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 4: Come on, we can talk right now. You handed me 409 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,200 the stall long enough, I got twenty four hours left. 410 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:58,879 I want it settled. 411 00:14:58,919 --> 00:15:00,919 Speaker 6: Okay, okay, I'll talk to the big man. 412 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,759 Speaker 5: I promise you. I want to have a meet with him. 413 00:15:03,159 --> 00:15:05,080 I don't know you listen at six. 414 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: Grand By was a dropping the bucket. I want to 415 00:15:06,519 --> 00:15:08,279 buy more. If the big guy's ready, saw. 416 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,399 Speaker 6: Am you got the money? 417 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 5: I got it cash? How about the meat? How about it? Red? 418 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 6: K okay, okay, I'll set it up. 419 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:22,679 Speaker 4: Red got his things together and we took the rear 420 00:15:22,759 --> 00:15:25,279 fire escape that led down to a service alley behind 421 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,399 the hotel. Before the two of us separated, we agreed 422 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:30,399 that Red would call me at my hotel at ten 423 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,000 o'clock the following morning. I wasn't altogether sure, but it 424 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,799 seemed as though the act I'd put on at the 425 00:15:35,799 --> 00:15:39,519 phony shakedown it impressed Red quite a bit. Before I 426 00:15:39,559 --> 00:15:42,159 went back to my hotel, I called Ed Jacobs and 427 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,080 Captain Kearney and briefed them on the developments. At ten 428 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,320 o'clock the next morning, I was waiting for the phone 429 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,440 in my hotel room. 430 00:15:48,759 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 5: At ten point fifteen, Red call, I. 431 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 6: Talk to the big Man this morning. 432 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 10: I told him what you wanted. 433 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, what's the answer. 434 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: You got to be a fastye Oka car. 435 00:15:56,559 --> 00:15:57,559 Speaker 5: Well, I'm ready, is he? 436 00:15:57,879 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 6: I think? 437 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:02,919 Speaker 5: So? Talk all right? What about the meat? I'll take 438 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,120 it to it when. 439 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: You are listening to Dragnet authentic stories of your police 440 00:16:19,679 --> 00:16:20,320 force in action. 441 00:16:28,279 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 4: Tuesday August sixteenth, ten thirty three am. As soon as 442 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:34,159 I got word from Red about the meat he'd set 443 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,639 up for me with a big man, I called Captain 444 00:16:36,679 --> 00:16:38,879 Kearney on the inside line and briefed him on the 445 00:16:38,879 --> 00:16:41,919 way things stood. He said he'd have three teams of 446 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,840 men ready to tail me and cover the meat. They'd 447 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,639 work alternately in three way radio cars in order to 448 00:16:47,679 --> 00:16:50,679 reduce the risk of discovery. To the minimum. He also 449 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,960 told me the check of tenants was continuing at the 450 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,879 East Hollywood apartment house where Red apparently was picking up 451 00:16:55,879 --> 00:16:59,799 his supply of heroin for distribution. So far, the detail 452 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,039 of man assigned to the job had failed to uncover 453 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,120 any definite leads. 454 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 5: At eight minutes. 455 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,759 Speaker 4: Past eight o'clock that night, Red picked me up at 456 00:17:06,799 --> 00:17:09,799 my hotel and together we drove out along Alhambra Avenue. 457 00:17:10,519 --> 00:17:12,960 We parked alongside the edge of a private golf course 458 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:18,119 just north of the Ocean Highway. 459 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:24,039 Speaker 6: Smoke, Okay, thanks, gotta mention it. 460 00:17:24,559 --> 00:17:35,799 Speaker 5: Yeah nice, Well what about it? We've been here fifteen 461 00:17:35,799 --> 00:17:36,880 minutes already, a lot. 462 00:17:36,839 --> 00:17:40,319 Speaker 6: Of sign feels like a sybost doesn't like to hurry things. 463 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, maybe he ought to get with it relaxed. 464 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:53,799 So we waited nine thirty, ten o'clock, ten thirty eleven, 465 00:17:54,599 --> 00:17:58,680 still no sign of the big man. Eleven thirty eleven, 466 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:05,279 forty five, no sign? What time he got, lindsay, ten 467 00:18:05,319 --> 00:18:08,880 minutes to midnight? And you got any ideas? 468 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:10,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess I can tell you now. 469 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 5: Well, you make this one real good with you. It's 470 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:13,839 been a long wait. 471 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 6: Boss wants to make sure about you. That's all. He's 472 00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:19,480 checking his context. Where you said you operate up around Fresno? 473 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:20,079 Isn't that right? 474 00:18:20,079 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 5: All right? So he's checking on me. What's he want 475 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,279 of a blood sample? 476 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 6: He's careful. He wants to make sure it didn't show. 477 00:18:25,519 --> 00:18:26,680 This is what he told me to tell you. 478 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're cleared all. 479 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 6: Around with his contacts and meets set for tomorrow afternoon 480 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:34,000 where I'll get to it. That deal to this. You 481 00:18:34,039 --> 00:18:36,160 said you wanted a big buy. The boss has got it. 482 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 5: How much? 483 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 6: Two kilos, same good stuff you sampled, high grade Mexican. 484 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:41,920 You can get it at ten grand akilo. 485 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 5: Well, it's not bad if it's good quality. What's the breakdown? 486 00:18:44,759 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 6: It's forty percent. You're getting a fat discount, you know that. 487 00:18:47,799 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 4: Well, that depends two kilos ten GI's apiece, twenty thousand bucks. 488 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 6: You've got education carry. 489 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 4: It's a lot of scratch to get together in a hurry. 490 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,960 You got a whole day, No, don't no jump, All right, 491 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,279 I'll get it. Where's the meat up by South Pasadena. 492 00:19:01,319 --> 00:19:03,240 They're holding a big flower show in the neighborhood. You'll 493 00:19:03,279 --> 00:19:05,519 meet him there. Contact me for the time. 494 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 5: When will it be? When do I meet him? 495 00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 6: When you got the twenty thousand. 496 00:19:13,039 --> 00:19:16,839 Speaker 4: Eleven fifteen PM, Red drove me back downtown and dropped 497 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,920 me off at Fourth and Maine. Before we separated, he 498 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,759 told me he'd call me early the following afternoon regarding 499 00:19:22,759 --> 00:19:25,240 the time of the meet with a Big Man, providing 500 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,960 I had the twenty thousand dollars for the narcotics buy. 501 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,960 One am, after stopping off at a cafeteria and then 502 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,279 a coffee counter to make sure I wasn't being tailed, 503 00:19:34,319 --> 00:19:36,160 I got to a public telephone. 504 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,839 Speaker 5: Put in a call to Captain Kearney South. 505 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 7: Pasadena Flowers Show sometime tomorrow afternoon there. 506 00:19:40,519 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, that's it, Ken, all right, we'll cover it 507 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,960 all the way. Well, how about the money? What do 508 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,680 you think he got a little with you, haven't you? Well? Little? Yeah? 509 00:19:47,839 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 7: Okay, fake it the best way, you know how. 510 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 2: We'll be a right. 511 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,839 Speaker 6: So as you make sure the guy has the junk with. 512 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,839 Speaker 5: Him past the signal, we'll move in right. 513 00:19:55,279 --> 00:19:57,519 Speaker 7: Something else, You get any lead at all on the 514 00:19:57,559 --> 00:19:58,279 big man tonight? 515 00:19:58,559 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 5: No? Nothing? How about you a piece of luck? 516 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 7: I think we got him spotted. 517 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 4: Before he hung up, Captain Kearney told me that the 518 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:11,440 careful screening of tenants in the East Hollywood apartment house 519 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,799 pointed out to them by Stan had netted a couple 520 00:20:13,839 --> 00:20:16,920 of prime suspects. They were an elderly couple, a mister 521 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,000 and missus Thomas Leslie. Besides the fact that he had 522 00:20:20,039 --> 00:20:22,720 a narcotics record in the East, mister Leslie operated a 523 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,720 second hand bookstore on Beverly Boulevard, which apparently was being 524 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:30,400 visited often by known narcotics peddlers. Early the following afternoon, 525 00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:32,880 Red called me at my hotel room and I told 526 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,960 him I had the twenty thousand dollars for the buye. 527 00:20:35,799 --> 00:20:38,039 Speaker 5: He picked me up at one forty five pm. 528 00:20:38,319 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 4: I flashed a stack of money, containing mostly one dollar bills, 529 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,799 and he seemed satisfied. He drove me out to the 530 00:20:44,839 --> 00:20:47,799 site of the flower show in South Pasadena, a large 531 00:20:47,839 --> 00:20:52,359 glass domed conservatory just off the Royosco Freeway. 532 00:20:53,319 --> 00:21:03,799 Speaker 10: I said, say, yeah, sure, nice flies. 533 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 6: Huh, it's beautiful. 534 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,079 Speaker 4: How many times we're gonna have to cover this route? 535 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,680 I've seen everything twice already. 536 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 6: Won be long a couple of minutes, Oh this way, 537 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:21,519 come on? Yeah, the ship grat. 538 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,599 Speaker 4: Look, I don't get any of this. If we got business, 539 00:21:25,599 --> 00:21:27,559 why can't it be in private. This is your big 540 00:21:27,599 --> 00:21:28,599 man's idea of a joke. 541 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:31,839 Speaker 6: It's protection. Lindsay, he's got to be careful. I guess 542 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,680 you figure this is the last place they look for. 543 00:21:35,319 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 4: We'll make another round of this place. We'll stand out 544 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:38,200 like a sore thumb. 545 00:21:38,279 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 6: I'll relax. You'll make you buy. Coming up right now, right, 546 00:21:41,839 --> 00:21:53,359 come on following me, Tom, What do you say? 547 00:21:53,759 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 12: Oh, oh you're in. 548 00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:57,839 Speaker 14: What do you think of my glady old antrees? Those 549 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,839 up there? When you say the beauties? 550 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that real great time. 551 00:22:02,039 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 14: Took me three and a half years to get blooms 552 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,319 like that South African species, you know, the Chilsea type. 553 00:22:07,759 --> 00:22:10,039 Raised them bright in the little greenhouse back of that place, 554 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,240 right you see the scarlets and the whites. That was 555 00:22:13,279 --> 00:22:13,880 the mine. 556 00:22:14,319 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, ah, Tom, like you have you meet that friend 557 00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:19,720 of mine? Lindsay, it's just Tom. 558 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,519 Speaker 12: How do you do? What do you think of my entries? 559 00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:24,759 Raised every one of them from seeds? Lindsay. 560 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 14: They take a lot of care. Yeah, they're all right, 561 00:22:29,319 --> 00:22:33,160 plenty of care, especially those the South African type. They 562 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,359 take a good stiff sandy loam, quality fertilizer, just the 563 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,160 right kind of heat and water, takes a lot of work. 564 00:22:39,799 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 5: Problem. Yeah, the guy haven't got too much time to spend. 565 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,599 Maybe we better talk outside. 566 00:22:45,759 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 14: Yes, it takes quite a lot of work. Beautiful blooms. 567 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,279 You have all the money within all of it. 568 00:22:51,799 --> 00:22:52,799 Speaker 5: We got two kilos. 569 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,279 Speaker 12: That's correct. You can go out the sideway. 570 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,079 Speaker 14: They read you followed behind and keep an eye open 571 00:22:58,319 --> 00:23:09,519 right this way. Sorry for the delay, it's necessary sometimes. Yeah, 572 00:23:09,599 --> 00:23:12,279 you came out and read your double checked you weren't followed. 573 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 5: I double checked. I've been doing business longer and red. 574 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,319 Speaker 6: Mm. 575 00:23:16,319 --> 00:23:18,319 Speaker 12: Maybe we can make it a permanent tie. 576 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:19,799 Speaker 6: Not here. 577 00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:28,039 Speaker 12: My cars this way? 578 00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 5: You always make deals in the open public places. 579 00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 14: Always it hazards advantages you sure this. 580 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 5: Is the hi sampled now? I don't want another phony buy. 581 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,079 Speaker 14: It's no Maybe can be sure. Then here's a car. 582 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,279 Well the money? 583 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,279 Speaker 5: Will you show me the stuff? Red nose? I got 584 00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:48,640 the money you read? 585 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,279 Speaker 14: Yeah, Tim, the money you saw it before you brought 586 00:23:54,319 --> 00:23:57,680 him here. Yeah, showed it to me right here in 587 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,200 my pocket. Have a look if you want. Now, come on, 588 00:24:01,279 --> 00:24:03,400 I can't afford to camp on this thing. All right, 589 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,480 people look out Red all right in the car wend 590 00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:20,920 there under the deskboard. Here I always find. That's the 591 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:21,839 best place. 592 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:23,759 Speaker 12: You have a car. 593 00:24:23,839 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 5: Of course, I go back with Red. 594 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 12: All right, they are two kilos, not the money. 595 00:24:31,799 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 5: What about breaking the package? Oh, I know it's not 596 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:34,720 more powdered sugar. 597 00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 12: Of course it's not. Wait a minute, what is this 598 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:38,799 those men coming up. 599 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:39,039 Speaker 6: To the car. 600 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,079 Speaker 5: Takety is he missing? 601 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 12: I'm getting out of here? 602 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,519 Speaker 6: In here, all right, Joe, I got him, pull him in. 603 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,839 Speaker 5: I'll shake him down. 604 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 6: We got the other one, Red, no trouble. 605 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,559 Speaker 5: Good, Okay, he's called Red. 606 00:24:54,079 --> 00:24:56,319 Speaker 12: It's stupid Red. I should have known. I should have know. 607 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 6: Joe, good work stuff all day. 608 00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, two kilos. 609 00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 6: Want us to take him back in our car, skipper? 610 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,519 All right, I'll take in the other one. Meet you 611 00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:06,039 at the parking lot gate. We'll folly in. 612 00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 5: All right, all right, mister, that's why. 613 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,799 Speaker 14: Look, if you ask you a favor, I won't take 614 00:25:10,839 --> 00:25:14,359 a minute. Yeah, let me call my wife. I want 615 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,160 to let her know what's happened. I wanted to come 616 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,319 out here and get my flowers. I got some valuable 617 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,279 plants in that show. 618 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 6: I'll be taken care of. Your wife couldn't make it anyway. 619 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,559 She was picked up an hour ago. 620 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,319 Speaker 14: Oh, couldn't be. What's gonna happen? Every dollar I own, 621 00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:33,160 all my merchandise, took care of the best quality, all 622 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:33,359 of it. 623 00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:35,319 Speaker 5: We'll take care of that. Come on, let's go. 624 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,519 Speaker 12: Well, I got those beautiful plants. You can do that 625 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,200 much for me. 626 00:25:40,519 --> 00:25:43,799 Speaker 14: Let me go back and get my flowers their prize, Glady, ALUs, 627 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,000 It won't hurt anything. 628 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 12: Just let me take some with me. Just a feudil 629 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:50,400 I get back? 630 00:25:50,759 --> 00:25:52,599 Speaker 5: Why I bother? They won't last that lot. 631 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,079 Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true. The names 632 00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:05,799 were changed to protect the innocent. 633 00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 3: On December fourth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department 634 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,000 eighty four, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California. 635 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:23,839 In a moment the results of that trial, Thomas Leslie 636 00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:26,440 and William red Forrester were filed on in the District 637 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,400 Attorney's office for violation of the State Health and Safety 638 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,480 Code Section eleven thousand, five hundred. Both men were tried 639 00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:36,839 in Superior Court and found guilty of the charge. The 640 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,240 violation carries a penalty of imprisonment in the state penitentiary 641 00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:43,680 for not less than five nor more than ten years. 642 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,480 Because of their co operation in the investigation and apprehension 643 00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:50,960 of the narcotics gang ring leaders Stan Parrish and Max 644 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:54,119 Higby were given one year sentences in the County jail 645 00:26:54,519 --> 00:27:07,119 with five years probation. You have just heard Dragnett, a 646 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,079 series of authentic cases from official files. Technical advice comes 647 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,519 from the Office of Chief of Police wh Parker, Los 648 00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:17,799 Angeles Police Department. Heard Tonight where Barney Phillips and Stacy Harris. 649 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,440 Script by Jim Mosey, music by Walter Schumann, Hal Givney speaking. 650 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 4: Next, It's David Harding and Counterspy on NBC. 651 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: Welcome Back, Okay, a great conclusion to this episode. I 652 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:54,240 really found this fascinating. And even though Friday's a policeman, 653 00:27:54,519 --> 00:28:00,759 his play is as daring as the most out rageous 654 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:06,720 con scheme. And he did thoroughly Conrad. That's why Red 655 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:11,400 didn't dig deep into the money. He was sold on 656 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,680 Friday being this big time drug operator. And of course 657 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:21,400 the takedown at the apartment was just icing on the cake. 658 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:21,799 Speaker 5: Oh. 659 00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:24,559 Speaker 1: I will say, I do feel bad for those guys 660 00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:28,799 for Metro Division because it sounds like they got worked 661 00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:32,400 over because Red checked one of them and confirmed that 662 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,000 they weren't conscious. So I hope for Friday's case, give 663 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:42,200 them a concussion was within the realm of showing yourself 664 00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:46,279 as tough as you needed to. I would be horrible 665 00:28:46,319 --> 00:28:49,119 at an assignment like that, and I would get really 666 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,000 nervous when he suggested killing us. I'd be like, does 667 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:55,640 he need to show himself that tough? But again, I 668 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,720 think Friday had a sense of who Red was and 669 00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:04,000 how we approached things, and his general caution, and that 670 00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:06,359 the last thing in the world Red was going to 671 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,960 want would be for him to kill two police officers 672 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,400 in his hotel room, because if reded called his bluff, 673 00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:20,559 that would have been problematic. And I love the Flower 674 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,839 Show as the setting for the drug boss. Ye not 675 00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:27,279 something you'd expect, but really does work well. And it 676 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,319 also adds some depth to the mister Big of the 677 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,279 story and a sign that at least in the early 678 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,519 nineteen fifties, drug dealers were not always who you'd expect now. 679 00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:44,319 The earlier dialogue with the suspect that they captured and 680 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:49,079 who was cooperating is somewhat noteworthy, and I looked it 681 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,160 up when they were suggesting that he quit and he 682 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,799 asked how long he was asked, how bad are you hooked? 683 00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:01,319 And he said, oh, not bad. I'm just chippy with it, 684 00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:04,480 not more than a cappa day, which is a good 685 00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:10,440 piece of writing because drug users often distinguish themselves from 686 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:18,839 occasional users who were called chippy or chippers and junkies. 687 00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:22,319 But as the dialogue says, it's also kind of the 688 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,680 nature of addiction to minimize the problem. He wasn't hooked 689 00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:32,480 that bad, and he used no more than a cap 690 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,400 of day. That's actually a pretty substantial amount for daily consumption. 691 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,000 And keep in mind that we've established through this episode 692 00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:45,920 that this is Heroin with purity of more than forty percent, 693 00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:52,480 which was a fairly high grade of junk for that era. Well, 694 00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:56,960 now we turn to listener comments and we start on Spotify. 695 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,480 Some comments regarding the Big Sorrow, Peter Rights Adam. When 696 00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:03,079 you mentioned last week that it was the last episode 697 00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:06,880 featuring Barton Yarborough, I assumed that he left to pursue 698 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,680 another role on another program. When I learned today that 699 00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:12,720 he had died of a heart attack, I was genuinely shocked, 700 00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:14,599 so much so that I had to listen to the 701 00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:17,440 episode twice to make sure that I heard it right. 702 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,559 I will miss hearing his voice. Can you recommend other 703 00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:24,880 programs that he appeared in that I can listen to well, 704 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,400 I can talk about what he worked in, but listening 705 00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:33,839 can be a bit of a challenge. Barton Yarborough's most 706 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:39,799 famous radio role among his contemporaries was as Clifford Barber 707 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,720 on the soap opera One Man's Family. He began playing 708 00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:49,160 the role in nineteen thirty two and carried on to 709 00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:55,599 his death. Like many soap operas, there are a lot 710 00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:00,640 of missing episodes, more than it's actually around ninety percent 711 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,720 of One Man's Family is missing, and of course the 712 00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:06,119 nature of soap operas and the fact that you have 713 00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:11,359 this big family and only fifteen minutes a day and 714 00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:15,839 is a situation where you will have characters on and 715 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:21,079 off the program. Now, there is a fairly substantial storyline 716 00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:27,119 where he takes a major role starting in January of 717 00:32:27,319 --> 00:32:33,640 nineteen fifty one, with most of that month's episodes in circulation, 718 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,920 though no promise that you get to the end of 719 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:42,480 the storyline. Yarborough also I Love a Mystery, in which 720 00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:46,240 he played the role of Doc Long as one of 721 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:53,640 three intrepid mystery solving adventurers. This actually led to three 722 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:59,400 different spinoff movies in which Yarborough appeared on screen. Sadly, 723 00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:04,559 the only complete I Love a Mystery serials are from 724 00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:09,079 a nineteen forty nine revival of the series. However, you 725 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:14,480 can hear Bart and Yarborough playing doc in the sequel 726 00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:18,319 series to the original I Loved Mystery, I Love Adventure. 727 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:24,519 He's also in Adventures by Morse again, another Carlton Moose series. 728 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:30,039 He also starred in the short lived and sadly well 729 00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:35,119 circulated Western Hawk Larrabee, and he played a supporting role 730 00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:41,680 in the Elliott Lewis series Hawk Durango, another Western. In 731 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:48,440 addition to that, Barbara did a pilot for a series 732 00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:54,119 with Jack Webb and Elliott Lewis called Three for Adventure. 733 00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:56,559 As I think about that series, and I don't think 734 00:33:56,599 --> 00:34:00,599 I said it at the time, I played that as 735 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,920 part of our Jack Webb centennial celebration back in twenty twenty, 736 00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:10,159 that pilot was really an attempt to kind of rip 737 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:16,960 off the Morse Adventure format. I think I might have 738 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,000 an Easter break coming up and I might go ahead 739 00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:25,440 and play that episode on The Great Adventurers for our encore. 740 00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:31,480 Then beyond that, though Yarborough was a very active character actor. 741 00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:36,079 He was in a lot of different productions. He was 742 00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:41,320 on Escape often, he did quite a few episodes of 743 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,840 Screen Director's Playhouse, and he would be in everything from 744 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:54,880 sitcoms to anthology shows, to Other Place and detective programs. 745 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,599 Even though this is the last of Ben Romero, we'll 746 00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:04,880 run into him in quite a few other guyses. As 747 00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:09,320 our full time radio listening continues, Doctor Who Done It? Riots, 748 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,800 I can't help but feel Jack's Webb's speech at the 749 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,000 closing was cut short by the music. It would be 750 00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:15,280 a tough one to get through. 751 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,119 Speaker 13: Well. 752 00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:19,519 Speaker 1: In that case, that all up to That is our 753 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:26,239 editing there. Want to include some of the remarks about 754 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:31,880 the season without also throwing in the fatima ad, which 755 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:40,360 is particularly important now that the podcast is actually broadcast 756 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,400 over the air every now and again over on Patreon. 757 00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:47,480 Emma's Riots. This was an extraordinary episode, unlike any other 758 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,639 in either radio or television that I remember. Clearly, Jack 759 00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:56,000 Webb was devastated by Yarborough's death. They were professional and 760 00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:59,719 personal friends, and I'm sure Web couldn't imagine anyone taking 761 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,960 the roll on because yard Borough was there. From the beginning, 762 00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:07,320 The episode winds up to be fairly Bland as if 763 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,599 to emphasize the sarity of the first ten minutes. Well, 764 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:17,480 I definitely agree that Webb was devastated and there really 765 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:23,320 was no contingency plan. And web was not someone who 766 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,719 was close with a lot of people, but those that 767 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:34,000 he was close with it was genuine, and I think 768 00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:38,519 it definitely was a blow because this is how the 769 00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:42,719 series had been built, and what to do next was 770 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,719 a big question. I think that the smartest thing they 771 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,559 did is really something that a lot of productions would 772 00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:56,760 be nervous with. I gave himself time. This period of 773 00:36:57,559 --> 00:37:04,599 temporary partners would continue for a very long time, relatively 774 00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:09,360 and essentially for the entire rest of the first season 775 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,639 on television after the two episodes which had been filmed, 776 00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:16,960 which gave viewers a bit more visual continuity. But Webb 777 00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:20,840 took his time and got a dynamic that will not 778 00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:24,519 the same as what he had before, was right for 779 00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:28,119 the show in a direction that would be very successful 780 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,880 in terms of the quality. I don't think making it 781 00:37:33,159 --> 00:37:37,599 less interesting was a decision as much as it really 782 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,400 was a necessity because you only have so much time 783 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,239 in an episode, and if you do take ten minutes 784 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:51,960 of the episode to deal with this major event. You 785 00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:56,239 just don't have time for the same quality of story 786 00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,719 and involved investigation, and you've got to tell something that's 787 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,079 a bit simpler. But at the end of the day, 788 00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:07,119 what really mattered there were the emotional stakes. For one, 789 00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:10,480 I mean, just like Joe Friday, most of us were 790 00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:15,000 not emotionally invested in the case as much as we 791 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,000 were with Ben's death, Brain's Benton rights on Instagram. What 792 00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:22,679 a good way to honor Ben Romero in the show 793 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,679 and in real life. Jack Webb picked good replacement partners, 794 00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:29,719 but Romero is my favorite. Too bad we didn't get 795 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,599 to see him in the TV show. Well, we actually did, 796 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,719 but very very briefly. Two episodes had been filmed when 797 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,760 he passed away. Suddenly those episodes are The Human Bomb 798 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,039 and The Big Actor. Now, his part in the Big 799 00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:49,800 Actor is not all that large, but in the Human 800 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,760 Bomb that is. And I said that when we released 801 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,599 the episode on video theater last year, that was a 802 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:03,039 role that really only Ben Romero could fulfill. And it 803 00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:07,320 is such a good episode. Of course, two episodes, it's 804 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,679 not even one percent of the nineteen fifties TV series, 805 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,880 But thankfully both of those are in circulation. We did 806 00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:18,679 them on a public domain video theater, and of course 807 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,840 you can find those online. And then Brian writes, yes, 808 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,880 this one was different. Jack Web did things his way, 809 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,920 as you say in closing, and in this case it 810 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,719 gave us a somber, respectful reflection. Then we go over 811 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,519 to YouTube, where we have some comments regarding the Big Overtime. 812 00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:41,719 Jeffrey raised some good questions about the practicality of some 813 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,599 of the measures poor trade, which in terms of quickly 814 00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:49,639 identifying the bills, and I kind of talked about that 815 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,719 last week, but appreciate the comment, though I don't have 816 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,920 anything additional to add, but really to appreciate it because, 817 00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:01,800 particularly on YouTube, because it helps us grow so much. 818 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:09,440 Sasoff says regarding my proposed Martian Manhunter series, I'm thinking 819 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:15,119 that the Martian Manhunter should star Wolson and Bill Bixby, 820 00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:18,960 And of course that is a reference to the TV 821 00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:23,679 program My Favorite Marshan, which aired from nineteen sixty three 822 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,159 to nineteen sixty six. Well, I was imagining this production 823 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,360 being done during the golden age of radio. Bixby didn't 824 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,119 work in radio. He was a little too young by 825 00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:40,800 the time he got into acting. Radio drama was fading, 826 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,480 with the line shares of rules in Hollywood going to 827 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:52,800 already established actors. Ray Woolston was of the age where 828 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,280 he could have had quite a radio career, but he didn't. 829 00:40:56,559 --> 00:41:01,920 He was really a stage actor until late fifties. The 830 00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:07,599 only radio role he had we actually played a few 831 00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:12,599 years back when we played an episode of The warth 832 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,039 Hour that was a tribute to Tony Barrett. It also 833 00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:20,960 featured him reprising the role from his Broadway play, So 834 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:27,679 long story short or long story somewhat shorter. I would 835 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,440 say that Ray Wilson was a fine actor, but just 836 00:41:31,559 --> 00:41:33,559 not what we had in mind for the part, but 837 00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:37,880 appreciate the suggestion. Now it's time to thank our Patreon 838 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,920 supporter of the day, and I want to thank Jesse, 839 00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:44,360 Patreon supporter since March twenty sixteen, currently supporting the podcast 840 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,599 at the rookie level of two dollars or more per month. 841 00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:50,920 Thanks so much for your support, Jesse, and that will 842 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,320 do it for today. If you're enjoying the podcast, please 843 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,679 follow us using your favorite podcast software and be sure 844 00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:01,199 to rate and review the pondcast Asked wherever you download 845 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,440 it from. We'll be back next Thursday with another episode 846 00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:08,199 of Dragon at But join us back here tomorrow for 847 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,880 yours truly. Johnny, it all or where. 848 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,039 Speaker 13: The police found any actual clues to work on? 849 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,679 Speaker 14: Well, no, that's where you're wrong, said, it's Sergeant Drumming. 850 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,079 Speaker 15: That's right, Danny boy. 851 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 13: Hi second, so they drag you in on this, Yeah, 852 00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:23,920 Fred's all You know how it is drumming. When the 853 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,320 police can't get anywhere, you call in the experts. 854 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 6: Oh and I thought you were a friend of mine. 855 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,039 Speaker 5: Ms. 856 00:42:28,119 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 13: Pullman who said that Bill was wrong Sageant when he 857 00:42:31,519 --> 00:42:33,519 told me your boy is havn't found any clues to 858 00:42:33,559 --> 00:42:35,760 who did this job and knocked off Jimson. 859 00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:38,599 Speaker 6: Cooley knocked him off? Huh know what's that mean? 860 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 15: One of the boys picked up a drunk last night 861 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,920 right in this neighborhood. Yeah, late this morning, when he 862 00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:46,519 sobered up enough, we sent him home for a little while. 863 00:42:46,519 --> 00:42:49,559 Ago he comes budging back the headquarters. Seems he suddenly 864 00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:51,639 remembered something he saw around here last night. 865 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,119 Speaker 6: Come on, Sageant. We must have been around two or 866 00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:56,719 three am. That's when we figured the robbery. 867 00:42:56,559 --> 00:42:58,639 Speaker 12: Could and the murder of Jimson Cooley. 868 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, please get to the point drumming. 869 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 15: Well, he was holding up that building across the street, 870 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,519 mining his own business and his bottle, when all of 871 00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:07,880 a sudden he saw a car come round from in 872 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,639 the back of this building and heading north on the. 873 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:11,199 Speaker 6: Trail, maybe two of them. 874 00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 15: He wasn't sure any I don't want he noticed was 875 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,679 a little pickup truck. 876 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,639 Speaker 13: But in his condition, I suppose he didn't get a. 877 00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:19,159 Speaker 15: License mwhere he didn't need to, Johnny, because he recognized 878 00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:22,559 that truck. Oh yes, sir, And he said it was 879 00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:24,760 all loaded down with something with an old piece of 880 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:25,840 canvas stretched. 881 00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:27,280 Speaker 12: Over the step that was stolen from me. 882 00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 13: Maybe you say he recognized that pickup Whose was it? 883 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,760 Speaker 15: Yeah, Johnny, was that old nineteen thirty model? He used 884 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,159 a whole shrimping. Why Who's that's right? 885 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 3: That's right? Was that old truck in? 886 00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 6: Jimson Dooley. 887 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime. 888 00:43:41,639 --> 00:43:46,880 Send your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot net.