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Speaker 2: This is it.

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Speaker 1: This is the one, This is the one, this is

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the one.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: Probably maybe who could say he was a committeder who

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goes podcast episode five forty four on Brando. I'm here

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with Ryan and we're gonna do the arch of evolution

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by talking about color parents, actual variance. Now head our theme.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk like this again, and then you're gonna

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do some stuff. I'll talk to Gary and I'll talk

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to Ryan.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk into the camera. I'll look over at

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the screen as I want to do, because I think

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I look cool. Sometimes sounded pretty good. I know what

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that means. I'm gonna say, hey, Ryan, we're back for

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yet another whirlwind adventure. How you do it good?

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Speaker 2: What is going down?

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Speaker 1: The whole ton is going down. What isn't going down

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is the quality of the color pairing. We're gonna talk

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about today, my personal favorite Celestia. Hey no, I'm totally kidding.

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Speaker 2: It's gruel. Everybody knew it was grul last week.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be gruel. So we're gonna peak now and

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then just downward spile for the rest of the the

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rest of the arc.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, in terms of meeting. Think of it like

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the rest of the cycle being a de new Ma. Yes, yes,

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except for when we make a little swap the June

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twenty six recording that'll come out on like June twenty

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ninth or whatever. The Tuesday is where we're doing Gulgary

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Speaker 1: Yes, the general direction. If you get in the studio,

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which you could be if you were a friend of

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the show slash member of the patron community slash in Saskatoon, yep,

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week changes colors as you look at it.

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Speaker 1: Arcanoid machine that does work, takes quarters and everything. We

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Speaker 2: You're watching on YouTube, it should be so we said.

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Our extra guest, special guest Gulgary subject matter expert has

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a nickname, does he? What is it? Is it a heat?

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Speaker 1: Probably?

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Speaker 2: Probably? This is the nation, Yeah, this is this is

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Speaker 2: We a bunch of sweaty dudes. Yeah, I'm not telling

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you what his nickname.

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Speaker 1: We can all use the same toilet, you know. I

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guess we can all use the same toilet anyway. Yeah,

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unless you on the seat.

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don't be on the seat.

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a subclause, yeah, which makes it part of the same rule.

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don't stand up to pee with the seat down. Oh

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I love splashing on the rim. Don't google that that happens.

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recently of yours.

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Speaker 1: Yes, flush it, Like, listen, there's this there's a fucking

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Speaker 2: Just push it down. We all know how that works.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's made it this far not knowing how that goddamn works.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they were from a country that doesn't have toilets.

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They were not. I have stood over a hole in

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the ground in Morocco at a restaurant and pooped in it.

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can pop a squad like nobody's business.

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Speaker 1: I believe you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not in these pants though, not that you could see.

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If you're watching on YouTube, which you should be okay,

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well gruel today. Yeah, we are going through magic the

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gathering color by color, guild pair by guild pair, and

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we are looking at commanders from twenty nineteen as per

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Speaker 1: Per twenty nineteen, because that was before the advent of

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Universes Beyond, which, as we all know, has taken over

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magic ruined it for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Everything sucks, Everything sucks, Nothing will ever be the same.

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It's runing all of magic. It's hyper powerful. Edh rec

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is going to be overrun with however many Universes Beyond commanders,

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that's the only thing we're going to be able to play. Obviously,

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we're being hyperbolic. Correct, Our friends over at DHREC sent

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us the list lists twenty nineteen from just prior to

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to when Universes Beyond started. Correct, So we take that

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Speaker 1: We've seen one number one as the universe is beyond

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in black, in model black with zephyrofi.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, black black, sniff my crack.

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Speaker 1: That's right. So it's probably just because of the abs

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to a bunch of fanboys, Yeah, get out of here.

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Speaker 2: Frickin doesn't even have as many abs as Uncle Brando.

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I know he's got like twenty seven abs.

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Speaker 1: I have to unroll them like a red carpet.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know how that works.

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Speaker 1: Well, some people think I have a gut, but it's

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just my abs rolled up and talk into the waistband

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, So, as we wont to do,

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I'm going to start with Brando's interpretation of the guild symbol. Yes,

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then that looks like a butthole with an olive on

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Speaker 2: Producer Gary having way too much taco bell.

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Speaker 1: Dang.

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Speaker 2: Oh and all I heard is spicy salami and fiery butt.

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Speaker 1: Cole, I mean I know all about that. Yeah, subject

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Speaker 2: Yes, Oh okay, so this is the fiery butthole color,

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as if every other Guild symbol wasn't a butthole.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm I'm going to draw that one thing you know,

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Speaker 2: It's the thing you have the most experience in. Okay, Well,

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the number ten of then we are looking for date stamps.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, I don't know, are there ready? Oh man,

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I don't know if we've actually identified like a trends

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over like the transverse multiple colors, we've seen trends in

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individual colors or individual guild pairs. Yeah, or they move

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away from La Gazorius I think is our our poster

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boy for that, where they move from the Staxi command

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or ConTroll the color into a lot more There's still that,

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but a lot more variance and a lot more that

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seeing how many universes beyond and noting generally, are they

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more powerful now or less powerful or about the same? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so number ten, number ten.

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Speaker 1: Tarca, Well, shit, Aturca.

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Speaker 2: Did you say it like that?

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Speaker 1: Tarka adarca aa aa aa world render?

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is a six to four dragon for seven

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flying trample. Whenever dragon you control attack, it gains double

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strike until end of turn. I wonder what kind of

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deck this is Ryan Dragons.

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Speaker 1: Probably yeah, I'll bet it makes big Man and then

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plays big flying idiots and then slaps the shit out

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of you.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if that's going to be a trend.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it won't be.

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Speaker 2: I think of the thens it will be because there

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was a lot of girl dragons, wasn't there. I feel

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Speaker 1: Well, there's lots of girl like ramp and do a

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bunch of stuff. Okay, I think that that is the

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kind of I say on the show all the time.

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I think the Gruel is one of the color pairings

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that doesn't necessarily have the same kind of.

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Speaker 2: Niche that other ones do.

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Speaker 1: For example, Ractos does the thing where every deck does

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some variation of do a thing, do one damage.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you get called out of that in the CCO

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discord as if you don't play nor in the Werry

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well do anything do a damage.

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Speaker 1: We did twenty decks that said do a thing, do

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a damage. You've identified one that I play, Yes, sweet

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call that out on these nuts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I think the grule doesn't necessarily have the same

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kind of identity. It's not known as like the Aristocrats color.

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It's not the Stax color. You know, it's not the

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token color. We're gonna talk about them now.

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Speaker 2: I bet you it's gonna be the big creature agro

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slash dragon color.

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Speaker 1: I'll bet you it does even more than.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's go to number nine atarka Is. We're

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playing dragons. There's not much to really land dragons.

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Speaker 1: It's very simple what we're doing here.

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Speaker 2: Number nine borber rigmos in rage. This is big Bobo

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seven to six for eight. Yeah, green, green, red, red

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four trample. Whenever Bobo enraged deals combat damage to a player. Ooh,

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combat damage. We're attacking. That's another creature. Reveal the top

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three cards in your library. Put all land cards revealed

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this way into your hand. The rest on the into

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the graveyard. Yeah hey fuck yeah, mail myself and gruel

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infinite attacks mail myself. Yeah yeah, okay, there's more. Discard

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a land card. Bubbo deals three damage to basically anything.

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Speaker 1: Lightning bolted creature a player.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty fucking good. That's pretty good this card, man,

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it costs eight. You're better at like putting this card

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into your deck and ramping or cheating it or sneak

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attacking it with like a grip full of twenty lands

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and just chucking everything. But I've seen this, like if

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you Joe had this, remember, yeah, and it was just

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like crazy green card draw, crazy green ramp and then endgame.

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He's just like, I don't know, play my guy for

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fifteen mana he's died four times. Yeah, discard these twenty

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lands one at a time to ping you guys all

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to death. Yeah, the deck's good, like the deck played. Yeah, man,

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I don't know. Now we're not going to see this

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guy again because I don't know if an eight commander

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eight man of commander stands up anymore. And that feels

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freaking bad.

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Speaker 1: It does, and especially when like this it does have

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some hoops like this one. You gotta do some shit

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to make him work, you gotta.

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Speaker 2: It's a lands deck kind of, it's an attacky deck.

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We're going to see other lands decks. We're going to

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for sure, we are. We're going to. Maybe that's a

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trend that we're gonna notice, right it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got to like jump through a bunch

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of hoops again to do three.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember way back in the day, which is

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like a Thursday in twenty ten, and somebody would say

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something at the LGS, like when a new SAT comes out,

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they'd say, well, it would be good in Commander, it'll

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be good in edh. Yeah, that's this card man. Yeah,

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and you know what it was. Yeah, And it's sad

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that that part of Magic's history is kind of gone

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by the wayside. Yeah, because it's an eight man of commander,

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Like give me this, make a deal one or two

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damage when I discard a land and make it cost

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three mana Well.

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Speaker 1: If they were to print it now would probably cost five.

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It would be a five to six and it would

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have ward two.

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Speaker 2: No, it would be like a seven to four. So

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it can still be a three pump jump ward get

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five poison counters. Give me a fucking break.

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Speaker 1: Get out of my face with that.

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Speaker 2: She like that card. We'll talk about that card someday.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll bet you we won't.

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Speaker 2: Okay, card number eight.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Roshine, I used to play this card man.

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Speaker 2: This is another one that's just not good enough anymore.

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I hate that is girl. Gonna be the first time

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we keep saying that. I think maybe yeah, four four

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for four, tap for four, but you can only spend

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it on X if that's everything.

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Speaker 1: Oops, everything costs X the deck.

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Speaker 2: That's the whole card. It's a giant shaman, So like

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those don't even matter. Maybe if we're playing Boros, the

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giant creature type would matter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're not, So it doesn't unless you're one

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of those guys that thinks hybrid mana symbols should work

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the way that they don't.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but here we are. Dang it, man, I like

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this card. I wanted to build it so bad than

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you freakinged it. Yeah, down shifted from rare. Also we'll

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printed as an uncommon drink that Hey, if that's not

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an indicator that you're gonna get kicked out of the

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top ten on edah t reck Right, what is.

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Speaker 1: I bet you? People don't even play this in the

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ninety nine anymore? Well, basically there's people that have never

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seen this card in their lives.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you're welcome, ye, put it in your X deck,

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put it in your HydroD deck. It used to be

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the commander of all the hydro.

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Speaker 1: Decks, right, absolutely, it used to be. Now there's now

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the what is it now, Garrettos or whatever It is

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just doubles all the counters for you.

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Speaker 2: We talked about just somebody that you want to It's

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just some counter thing for or gives you lots of

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man in the command's own. That's boring.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is boring too. This isn't great.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna treat everything undiscriminately if it's frickin' boring.

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Speaker 1: This is another This is boring.

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Speaker 2: This is card number seven. Yes, eight seven seven seven,

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This is eight seven coming up.

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Speaker 1: Grum Gully. No you long time CECO nationalites will remember

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the time I wrote a Christmas story called grum Gully

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Saves Christmas I Do, in which him and his friends

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went and saved Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Yes, longtime CECO and National lights will remember Max Crandell

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having a grum Gully deck that we put into a

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sock and feed him with. Yes, yes, goblin shaman, Hey,

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our second shaman in a row. Yeah. Yeah, three three

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for grueling one, so three three for three. This guy's

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good and limited already, he's an uncommon fantastic Yeah from

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O g L drain each other non human creature control

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enters the battlefield with a plus one. Neat, I don't

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hate that.

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Speaker 1: And then you play goblins or some other load of

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the ground strategy or things that care about having counters

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put on them. Yes, both beat the shitted of people

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with that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: I think Max had.

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Speaker 2: It given to him as a Christmas present or something

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like the CMDR Central Community, or maybe it's the CEO guys.

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Oh shit, I don't remember who it was. But somebody

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built him a deck and it was like tokens and

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you know, you play you know, empty the warrens or

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like Cranko's commands you get two guys for to mana

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but it's actually.

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Speaker 1: To two two's. Yeah, very good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so cool stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: I promised zoidj I would say this, and then I forgot.

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Our summer deck giveaway on the CEO Discord, one of

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the things you can be involved in if you're a

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patron and part of the discord. Apparently this was one

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of the most best run, best participated in, and most

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well executed of the deck giveaways and deck trades that

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we've ever done on the Discord.

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Speaker 2: Whoa, and then they're gonna meet in real life and

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execute each other with their deck.

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Speaker 1: Yes, wanted to make sure that we sent a shout

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out to all those guys that were involved in that. That

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was really cool that our community came together to do

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all that stuff and like we're barely involved. We did

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the Christmas one this year, and everybody else did the

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Summer one and apparently it went really well. Everybody's happy,

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everybody had fun. So another thing to be involved with

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if you want to support us over a Patreon dot com,

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let's ceco podcast.

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Speaker 2: Very much so. Gullie deck, I'm not done executing yet.

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And if you lose the game, when you play all

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together with your Christmas deck exchanges, give them the old

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map Crandell treatment until he's executed, lead him to death

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with the sock, and just start clubbing. Yeah yeah, but

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not like two thousand and nine clubbing where you're dancing

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to floor Rider. No, I'm talking about the Max Can

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Crandell kind of clubbing, like a baby Seal Crandell club

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and cookout podcast CCO.

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Speaker 1: Fuck have never made that before.

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Speaker 2: Oh Max Grendel, he's not even here anymore, and we

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can still what a good dude. Yeah, good at getting clubbed,

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grum Gully.

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Speaker 1: I like this deck. That's they're they're they're a good one.

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I like that one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, number six seven six. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I can't count these, oh grand Warlord rata.

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Speaker 2: Really this one surprises me three four elf warrior. Okay,

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that that matters. Our second date stamp card after a

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tarka four man a grueling two with haste a three

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four haste for four. It's prety cool. I'm not bad.

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That's pretty cool. I'm drafting this card. I'll tell you

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that much. Sure, whenever one or more creatures you control

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attack or add that much mana to your manipool, and

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a combination of red and or green till't to turn.

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You don't lose that mana.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So whenever, like I attack with three guys, I get

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three mana, that's right. If I attack with four guys,

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four mata, fifteen guys, fifteen mana, hey, I like that? Yeah, okay,

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so now we're going.

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Speaker 1: Wide instead of tall.

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Speaker 2: Well this kind of all of.

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Speaker 1: Our guys are manadorcs. Now we're out greening green.

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Speaker 2: All of my guys can have mana doorc Yeah. Yes,

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Also grum gully and this play nice together, sure, because

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you want all your guys yep that are manadorcs to

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be able to attack. Yeah, with impunity. That's right, as

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if they had plus ones on them.

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, she slaps somebody for thirty at fifteen, man

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into your manipool comet, stolen this fucking guy.

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Speaker 2: And then the other guy quits he can't take the heat.

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Which one of those guys is Max Crandell, the second one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good, Yeah, as.

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Speaker 2: Long as he's not the quitter, he doesn't. He's not allowed.

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Speaker 1: No, he's not a quitter.

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Speaker 2: He's not allowed to quit. My favorite Max Crandell play stories.

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I stole his commander, fucking killed him with it in

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one shot, get him for twenty one. He's like, you're

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just gonna steal my guy and hit me for fourteen, right,

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I'm like yes, And then he's like I did that.

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Speaker 1: Of course I did.

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Speaker 2: And he's like, hey, cool, no blocks. I'm like, actually,

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I'm gonna give him plus seven until then turned he's like, oh, yep,

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you got it. There it goes very cool.

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Speaker 1: Let's all die, okay, rata cool, pretty cool attack make

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mana play thing.

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Speaker 2: It seems kind of straightforward, yeah, is it?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Is that what people like about it?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, it doesn't say mill anymore. I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: Okay, already had that with Bobo. You already had self mail.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, self mal Bobo hit them all.

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Speaker 1: Don't google that. I could probably google that one. Yeah,

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I'm milling my Bobo.

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Speaker 2: Maybe don't google that. Maybe don't google that one that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be pretty I don't do that.

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Speaker 2: Ye, okay.

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Speaker 1: So this is six six rata. Is this the rata

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you like? No? I like Rada air to kelt Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's the first rata. Yeah, okay, this rata good. Two.

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Speaker 1: I like this one too.

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Speaker 2: Number five Nikkia have the old Ways? Yeah, to see

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this guy another date stampee. Yeah, okay, So it's like

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Watson knew it was gonna be good. This is a

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centaur druid five to five for grueling three. Yeah, so

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five to five for five you can't cast non creach. Okay,

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we're only creaching while this is on the battlefield. Whenever

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you tap Alan for mana add an additional that it produced,

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so it's a Mana.

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Speaker 1: Doubler and then you play creatures with it.

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Speaker 2: Ah, that's kind of like a sure. Yeah, that's that's

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a gruel card.

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Speaker 1: You're playing big dumb idiots that do thing. This is

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one of those cards that actually might have gotten better

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over time, because again the efficiency and goodness of creatures

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have been getting better. Yes, and you can kind of

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do all the shit that things that aren't creatures can do,

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but with creatures now.

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Speaker 2: So if it was printed now, it would be whenever

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you tap a permanent for mana, let's be honest, and

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it would cost four yep and have ward sixteen.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen.

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Speaker 2: Anything that I say, hmm, that's not a girl creature.

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Everything has been gruel so far. We've got plus ones,

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we got attacking, we got making mana, we got dragons

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and big creatures and dumb idiots.

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Speaker 1: We've got milling and discarding land.

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Speaker 2: The discarding lands to damage that's very cruel, and it

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being a seven to six for eight that's very cruel.

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I haven't seen anything that's really made me go.

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Speaker 1: Wow, give it time, give it time.

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Speaker 2: I want to build that or why yeah, that's just

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a big dumb idiot dot deck. I haven't seen anything

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that makes me go, man, I remember I wanted to

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build that.

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Speaker 1: Give it time, give it time. Okay, I don't actually

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I don't. I don't actually know if any of the

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crazy ones are going to show wild I don't know

467
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if like Gruel Erza is going to be on the list.

468
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,000
I don't know if playing things from outside the game

469
00:23:35,079 --> 00:23:38,079
matters is going to be on the list. But I'll

470
00:23:38,079 --> 00:23:42,000
bet you we run into a Stax commander and a

471
00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:46,799
lands deck and I can't think of anything.

472
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 2: Predictions, predictions. We had a voltro on too, I'll bet

473
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,160
you get one of those. Okay, predictions number four.

474
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: Ward the raid Mother. There we go, Goblin Sham and

475
00:23:59,279 --> 00:24:04,000
here's a spell slinger deck. Uh yeah, most.

476
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 2: Of the spells are spells that turn into creature tokens, right,

477
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,640
who knows, Let's give it a read. Anything three to

478
00:24:10,759 --> 00:24:14,359
three for gruel hybrid, gruel hybrid four, so three three

479
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,559
for six ETBs put two to one one green and

480
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,440
red goblins into play sick. Each red and green instant

481
00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:28,359
or sorcery spell you cast has conspire, which is.

482
00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:30,559
Speaker 1: You can tap two creatures that share a color with

483
00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:32,440
the spell to copy the spell.

484
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 2: To copy the spell. Yes, that's pretty good.

485
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:35,839
Speaker 1: That's not too bad at all.

486
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,039
Speaker 2: That's pretty good again.

487
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,839
Speaker 1: Longtime CEHIO nationalites will remember we have done this commander

488
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,319
on the show.

489
00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:44,599
Speaker 2: Yes, Anthony Bockley has one. He's got altered one done

490
00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:46,599
by me. That's right, there, he goes, and he brought

491
00:24:46,599 --> 00:24:48,759
it to Vegas. Yeah, brought it to Vegas just to

492
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:49,079
show me.

493
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,559
Speaker 1: I'll bet it slap the share to people.

494
00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't play against it. Probably were afraid, No,

495
00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:54,519
he was afraid of me.

496
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,559
Speaker 1: Probably wasn't.

497
00:24:55,759 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 2: Probably was, probably wasn't.

498
00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: Probably there are several words on that card.

499
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 2: But this is this is a Girl of spell Slinger deck.

500
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,319
Speaker 1: And yes, lots of the cards make dudes, but lots

501
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,440
of them don't make dudes.

502
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 2: I love dudes. Maybe they're going to make.

503
00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:13,799
Speaker 1: You draw equal to number of dudes or big leness

504
00:25:13,839 --> 00:25:14,279
of dudes.

505
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, yep.

506
00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: Maybe you're gonna Jessica's will twice.

507
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't hate that. Remember you got to pick

508
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,279
the same mode that you picked the first time.

509
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,079
Speaker 1: Well, you have wart, so you'll get both.

510
00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: There you go.

511
00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe you're gonna commet storm all three of

512
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,200
your opponents halfway to death and then tap two goblins

513
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,839
to put them all the way into death.

514
00:25:43,519 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: That one, I do like. That one feels very reminiscent

515
00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:51,039
of my Calimax deck, And I know lots of people

516
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,160
run wart in Calimax because it's a a damn or sorry,

517
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,839
a spell doubler, and it taps him, and it taps Calimax.

518
00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:02,240
I don't want to pay six. And that's where that's

519
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,799
where I'm kind of hung up. I'm like, oh, man,

520
00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:08,960
I can do kind of the same thing for less

521
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,759
manna and get access to blue. It's almost like power

522
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:15,480
Creep exist because modern commanders have been printed or newer

523
00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:16,559
ones have been printed.

524
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,079
Speaker 1: Calamax isn't eve when a universe is beyond card? No?

525
00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 2: Fuck? Can you imagine who it was? Oh?

526
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: Break the Internet?

527
00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

528
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: Which IP would it be?

529
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 2: Which ip? Land before Time? Oh?

530
00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:32,519
Speaker 1: Yeah? Which? Okay? Which? Which Land before Time? Character?

531
00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:32,799
Speaker 2: Would it?

532
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: Because we already had Jurassic Park?

533
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: And he went, oh yeah, yeah. I was gonna say

534
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,559
Land before Which Land before Time? Movie would it be?

535
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,359
I was gonna say sixteen or one of the musicals.

536
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:43,599
I don't know.

537
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't even know what kind of dinosaur he is.

538
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,720
He's a stegosaurus, right? Was there a stegosaurus in Land

539
00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:49,599
before Time? Spike?

540
00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: That was his name? Spike?

541
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: No, he was an ancliosaurus?

542
00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:54,759
Speaker 2: Was he? And Ducky was the duck billed one? And

543
00:26:54,799 --> 00:27:01,960
then Petrie was a pterodactyl. Littlefoot was arontosaurus, and Sarah

544
00:27:02,079 --> 00:27:03,160
it was a trisaratos.

545
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Sharp Tooth was a t rex.

546
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 2: Yes you're scary, Yes so Sharp Teeth. We're sorry if

547
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,000
we have brought up any childhood trauma from that movie. Yeah. Man,

548
00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:18,480
remember cartoons from the eighties and nineties. Ye, fucking traumatizing.

549
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,359
How much you forget Transformers?

550
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: The movie has an apology to her happening right now

551
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:24,599
September seventeenth. Check your local listings.

552
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:30,319
Speaker 2: Baby, you never seen the secret in him? Oh, terrifying, terrifying.

553
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,440
When that owl steps on the spider, Missus Brisbee thinks

554
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,039
she's a goner.

555
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: It's not though, No, you know.

556
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,599
Speaker 2: In the book she was Missus Frisbee, but they didn't

557
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,799
want to have copyright bullshit, so they just named her

558
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:43,519
Missus Brisbee. They're like, fuck it, nobody's gonna know. Yeah,

559
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,119
now you do?

560
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

561
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,839
Speaker 2: War number five right? Yeah?

562
00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:52,279
Speaker 1: Or four? I don't know, keep going number four. There

563
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,599
were top three of them. Baby, Spellslinger, Deck.

564
00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:59,799
Speaker 2: Spell Slinger, and Gruel almost cracked the top three.

565
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:01,559
Speaker 1: Who saw that cuts go? Not me?

566
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,319
Speaker 2: Maybe me? I don't know the baby, Oh you've played this?

567
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,519
My first CD deck Okay, this is a six six

568
00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:13,279
for Grueland four ogre Warrior, So six six for six

569
00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:17,119
with vigilance and reach. Yeah, good combination because you can

570
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,000
attack and block. That's right, okay, rurk Thar the unbowed

571
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:27,279
attacks each combat, so you are attacking and blocking. Yes, okay. Good.

572
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,920
Whenever a player casts a non creature spell, rurk Thart

573
00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:35,799
deals six damage to that player, six six for any

574
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,119
non creature like all of your removal spells. Yeah, like

575
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,680
all your pieces, all.

576
00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:43,759
Speaker 1: Your combo pieces, all your rituals, all your draw bullshit

577
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,880
on you. Oh yeah.

578
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: Can you imagine trying to combo by casting over and

579
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,160
over and over like Storm decks?

580
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: I can because I saw somebody try and do it.

581
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,599
Speaker 2: Storm Decks very prevalent back in the day, like twenty

582
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,599
twelve or thirteen when this guy was printed, very prevalent. Now.

583
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:02,200
Rurkar goes in the nine nine of Nikia Decks because

584
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,160
he's a creature. Oh yeah, and Nikia is like, you

585
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,599
can't cast on creatures and roars like fucking good. Yeah

586
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,640
good's he's pretty good. So a couple couple of the

587
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,319
top ten so far that play nice together. Yeah, which

588
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,079
is cool, but is in. I think it's a leading

589
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:22,319
indicator that they're going to be pushed out, Yeah, and

590
00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:26,079
relegated to ninety nine's of whoever the new hotness is.

591
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:28,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure if a rock Thar is still around.

592
00:29:28,359 --> 00:29:30,880
I kind of wish that he was, because I really, really,

593
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,119
really did like this deck.

594
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: I think he's got power to hang nowadays because people

595
00:29:35,079 --> 00:29:37,559
are casting more stuff earlier and more frequent.

596
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: If you could power him out on turn like four

597
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,559
in twenty nineteen, you could power this guy out on

598
00:29:43,559 --> 00:29:45,680
turn three or four very consistently.

599
00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:49,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, rest in peace, Jewel Lotus, rest in peace, mancrypt.

600
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can still do it on turn three or four.

601
00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:54,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure, Solaring, I'll do it on turn

602
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:55,759
frickin' whatever.

603
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:58,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, turn one not turned one?

604
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,359
Speaker 2: Yeah no, wait, how do you do this? Yeah? I

605
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,000
mean you probably could. Yeah, there's probably a way.

606
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:06,119
Speaker 1: There's probably somebody typing furiously right now.

607
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: Let's go on turn one. Let us know in the comments.

608
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: I like this guy.

609
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,759
Speaker 2: I think he can hang. There's more interaction, there's more

610
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:16,440
card draw there's more low to the ground stuff that

611
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:21,599
isn't just manadorcs and creature like. There's people are playing

612
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,039
stuff and doing stuff. We're in the synergy age of commander. Yeah,

613
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:29,440
and this guy takes a dump all over that. Yeah,

614
00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:30,039
super good.

615
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and all we have to do is play dudes,

616
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,640
love dudes, and especially in modern CDH. And I'm not

617
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,400
saying he's a CDH deck, you know, but in the

618
00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:40,119
realm where this guy would usually hang, you got a

619
00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:44,480
bunch of fucking manadorcs. They're gonna you're beating them to

620
00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:47,200
death for sixty six. So either you're removing resources from

621
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,720
your opponent or killing them, and both are good.

622
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:52,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if they're Max Crandell.

623
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,279
Speaker 1: What are they gonna do? Hit you back?

624
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a six to six reach you around

625
00:30:58,319 --> 00:30:59,240
her exactly.

626
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: This is number th three.

627
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,319
Speaker 2: Hey, I was actually a little bit surprised. I forgot

628
00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:04,480
about him. Yeah we shouldn't he This is the first

629
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:07,559
one that I would say, kind of want to build that.

630
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,680
There you go, I kind of want to build this one.

631
00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's good. I like work thought, he's a great card.

632
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:14,359
Speaker 2: I think it's a great one for you to just

633
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,279
sit back and say, uh, yeah, it's fine. Put a

634
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:22,599
bunch of flash creatures in your deck. Put a bunch

635
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:24,720
of guys with activated abilities in your deck. So you

636
00:31:24,759 --> 00:31:28,119
have like utility rattlesnake cards and they're like, it's funny,

637
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,640
that funny that rampid growth there that you drew on

638
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:35,400
turn eight and just needed to just needed to play.

639
00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:36,759
Uh huh take six.

640
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been a non zero number of times over

641
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,359
the last couple of weeks. I've been sitting there thinking, Man,

642
00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:43,799
I wish I had my rook Thard deck would be

643
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,440
right now. Yeah, just watching some jerk bag dirtle. It's like, man,

644
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:50,960
it's gonna be so over.

645
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,119
Speaker 2: This guy just would have blew himself up or not

646
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,400
played anything, then it would have been your turn. Yeah,

647
00:31:56,519 --> 00:31:57,599
and you could attack him for six.

648
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I could blow him up. That's even better.

649
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: Yep, this is cool one. I'm happy this guy's on

650
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,720
the on the list too.

651
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: I hope he's still in there. Werk Thar the unbowed.

652
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,079
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, he didn't give a shit.

653
00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: He didn't give a shit with anybody.

654
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:13,359
Speaker 2: Number two he bows to no man, Oh prediction number two.

655
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: I don't know wait no, uh uh Xena ghost Xeneghos.

656
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:24,799
Speaker 2: I'm not Locus of Rage. Give this a read only

657
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,559
from memory though.

658
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:29,119
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Okay, so he's a five to five for green, Green.

659
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: Red, red, red three. Yeah uh.

660
00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:35,519
Speaker 1: Whenever a land comes into play under your control, you

661
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:36,200
make five to five.

662
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:36,559
Speaker 2: Yeap.

663
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: Whenever an elemental you control eats shit, you three something correct.

664
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,079
That's it.

665
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: Well, those aren't the exact words printed on the card,

666
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,839
but that's everything that he does. He's a elemental and

667
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:48,759
he has a date stamp.

668
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have had this deck together since twenty fifteen,

669
00:32:54,319 --> 00:32:58,759
the twenty seventh of September twenty fifteen. I actually bought

670
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:02,400
the dates amped one from our LGS and I went

671
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,200
home and I built the deck and it has been

672
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,039
together since then.

673
00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: It's got only foils. Yes, very good, Yes, very good.

674
00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:13,640
Have you ever, besides the times that you've played me,

675
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,599
had every single land in your deck on the battlefield?

676
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,279
Speaker 1: Yes, yes I have.

677
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I knew that this one was going to be

678
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,240
on there. Oh yeah, I knew it.

679
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: I would be shocked if he wasn't still on.

680
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: This is a lands deck, this is a Tokens deck.

681
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,160
It's an et B deck et et right.

682
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's everything.

683
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: It's a pseudo burn deck, it's a big man a deck.

684
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:41,400
It's it's everything. It has the words landfall, five to

685
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,640
five and three damage and it's a five to five.

686
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: On the car fucking twice in reference to two different things.

687
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is a cool one. I've seen Omnath

688
00:33:53,319 --> 00:33:57,279
decks like yours mostly that are like play as many

689
00:33:57,359 --> 00:33:59,680
lands as possible to get as many five fives. I've

690
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,759
seen ones with the token doublers, which I think you do, yep.

691
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,880
I've seen the ones, of course that are just like

692
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,840
bouncing lands or playing lands from graveyards.

693
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: Which mine also does yep.

694
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 2: And then three damage to everything when whenever your elementals die,

695
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:18,039
and not just your five to five elementals, fucking any elementals.

696
00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can make one ones or two twos. There's

697
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,159
that one that's a little like choed mushroom that has

698
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:24,239
a clitorist for a face.

699
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,079
Speaker 2: WHOA, Yeah, don't google that. The dirtiest magic the gather.

700
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:28,639
Look it up.

701
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,079
Speaker 1: The it's a two two elemental from somewhere. I think

702
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:32,840
it's only been on Only one card makes it, and

703
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,320
it's got like it's a chold, like straight up penis

704
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:42,280
chod with a fucking clittaorus for a face. Oh okay,

705
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,559
and that somehow got by all of everybody. It it's

706
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:47,119
what is it?

707
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:48,639
Speaker 2: Uma?

708
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:51,679
Speaker 1: Is that as g TA and the art on that card, like,

709
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,239
how did these get past R and D? How did

710
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,559
that happen? This is a mistake. There's some guy going

711
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,360
total lead you junk on a card.

712
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: No, there was that one secret layer that they had

713
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,280
to recall to. Oh yeah, with the tiny little wiener,

714
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,480
the tiny little.

715
00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: Penis on it.

716
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,599
Speaker 2: I did buy that secret layer for the record.

717
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: It's a snake one.

718
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, tiny snake. You're right.

719
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:19,559
Speaker 1: This card's cool. I love this card, versatile, cool art.

720
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,400
We'll stay together as long as I play Magic.

721
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,599
Speaker 2: Long history of Omnaths. This is number two in the

722
00:35:26,639 --> 00:35:30,679
Omnath gets an extra color kind of saga. Yeah, this

723
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,480
is the second one I think he picked. And we

724
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:37,199
saw Omnath one in monal green too, we sure did.

725
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,719
I wonder if we did three color arc of evolutions,

726
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,800
we'd see three color Omnaths. I fucking bet we would.

727
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,599
Speaker 1: You think I'll.

728
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: Look it up when we're done. This is number two?

729
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,400
What's number one of the then? Then xen ghosts enhos Yeah, whenever,

730
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:57,559
devotion to X, devotion to seven, devotion to green and

731
00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:00,239
red seven. We all understood what you said each time

732
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,760
you said that indestructible six five for five, and at

733
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,840
the beginning of combat on your turn, another target creature

734
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,559
control gets plus X plus oh, where X is the creature's.

735
00:36:11,079 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: Power, and then gets Tramplin haste sure or haste just taste,

736
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,840
just taste, but either way they're gonna have trample. Yeah,

737
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,639
you're gonna attack somebody with a fucking twelve twelve atolle

738
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,000
the turn after you plays naghost.

739
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: No you're gonna No, you're not.

740
00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna play the Atalia and then they're gonna kill

741
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,199
it and you know sad.

742
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,559
Speaker 2: No, you're gonna sneak attack and emer cool and hit

743
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:32,760
somebody for twenty two.

744
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I guess you could do that too. Yeah.

745
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:39,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna sneak attack and emmer cool and that

746
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:43,079
cost a one whole manna. So you're gonna go sneak attack,

747
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:48,320
emmer cool, play souls might double his power, double his

748
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,159
power again take forty four. Ye, that's what you're gonna do.

749
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: So now we're doing go tall. So we've gone wide. Yes,

750
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,519
we've gone out of the bin. We've played lands and

751
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:04,039
we're going in a Stax commander sort of girl kind

752
00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:05,719
of does lots of things. I'm telling you guys.

753
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: If you frame it like that, like the statistics can

754
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,840
say whatever you want them to say, you just have

755
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,880
to frame it in a certain way. Well I'm framing

756
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:13,440
it this way.

757
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I.

758
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: Think that's great. I think that it's I think the

759
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,719
counter to that is we've seen a lot of shit

760
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,840
that just cares about having really big dudes. Yeah. The

761
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,960
commanders are just really big dudes.

762
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, although they'll do all of them do something, though

763
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,320
I don't think many of them. I don't think we've

764
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,519
seen one yet that just relies on I'm going to

765
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:38,320
play my big dude and kill you with it, like

766
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,360
Galta this kind of does that.

767
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,639
Speaker 2: But just play your big dude and kill somebody.

768
00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: This is another dude. It's not this dude. Ah right,

769
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,760
you have to play something else. Xenaghos doesn't win with commanders.

770
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: What's her name, Nikia is just she just says you

771
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:55,239
have to play dudes, stars like play dudes or take

772
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,679
damage right like it's and Atarca was number ten.

773
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, is just dragons.

774
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: Just play big dragon dudes, yeah, which is by nature

775
00:38:06,679 --> 00:38:09,880
big dudes. It just happened to say dragon somewhere on

776
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,639
the card. So Rourkar still my favorite of the thens

777
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,719
in top ten in girl.

778
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: How many of these have I played so far?

779
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 2: Three? Well, I was I was going to do a

780
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,360
recap that I abandoned that, but now I now I

781
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,599
have we have recapt again.

782
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to do it, damn it.

783
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: Okay a tark at ten. I didn't play that one,

784
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,559
all right, barberigmos at nine.

785
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: Joel played that one, So that's okay.

786
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,639
Speaker 2: We got experience with it firsthand. Eight is Rouchine.

787
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:35,559
Speaker 1: I played that one.

788
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: Seven grum Gully.

789
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: I built that one for the show.

790
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:43,679
Speaker 2: Okay, six grand war Lorderata.

791
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,679
Speaker 1: I never built that one.

792
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:50,559
Speaker 2: Five nick Yah four wart Anthony.

793
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to count that as the nation.

794
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: Three is Rourke.

795
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,639
Speaker 1: I played that one.

796
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah on an ath Zenagos one. So I played four

797
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,239
of the the four of the top.

798
00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: Ten of them, one of them is still together.

799
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:08,519
Speaker 2: I wonder if we're going to see more universes beyond

800
00:39:08,519 --> 00:39:11,519
than that number, more than four. I don't know, man,

801
00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:13,119
I don't know. It would be a world record, it

802
00:39:13,159 --> 00:39:13,840
would be the record.

803
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: Let's see about now.

804
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: So let's see about the nows. Yeah.

805
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: Now, so I flipped the colors, see ye, and then

806
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,360
I moved the letters to a different spot. Why can't

807
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,360
I make ends like the ends always looks.

808
00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: Like I would argue that ends are not the only

809
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,400
thing you can't.

810
00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: Make that looks just like a Gruel symbol.

811
00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:33,159
Speaker 2: It looks like somebody from Gruel rot.

812
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: Well, I play a lot of girls.

813
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,199
Speaker 2: Somebody drew it with their with a club.

814
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 3: Well, and it was you, and then you used the

815
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,199
club to beat match kind out with Yes, okay, a

816
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,079
club with a lead pipe in it.

817
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:56,159
Speaker 1: This is zeneg is number ten, number ten from one

818
00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:57,800
to ten, more like ten agos.

819
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: Huh.

820
00:39:59,000 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: Actually, I kind of like that.

821
00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: I don't hate it drops ten places, It goes fucking loser.

822
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,639
Speaker 1: So everything that we said, oh still say about.

823
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,159
Speaker 2: Are we gonna Are we gonna see that big of

824
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:11,199
a change up? Mind you, We've seen this before. We've

825
00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:13,440
seen guys go from two or three down to like

826
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:14,440
nine or ten.

827
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this might be the biggest drop I've

828
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:16,960
We're done like it.

829
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: It is the maximum number of places you can drop

830
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:21,599
and still stay on the list, which is the first

831
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:23,159
time we've seen that. Yeah.

832
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,159
Speaker 1: So, but I mean then I goes still played card.

833
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:27,159
I think that he's more of a ninety nine. I'm

834
00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:29,039
actually surprised he's still in the top ten, to be honest.

835
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:35,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, because but also people who had him in decks,

836
00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:37,760
they talk about this on edh rec cast sometimes is

837
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,280
is you might make a deck like I'll make a

838
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,679
deck in architect dot com, and then if I take

839
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:46,760
the deck apart physically, it stays together in my architect

840
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,440
profile right right, just as a log or because I'm

841
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,679
too lazy to delete it sure or whatever. So A

842
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,360
we might be running into that. Okay, b It's still

843
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,800
everything that we said is still true. I can still

844
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:02,960
nic attack double power then double power again, my lullamug

845
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,840
and still one shot people. Yeah, like turnover turn Yeah,

846
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,840
it's still fricking good. It's still pretty good. Okay, well

847
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:19,320
that's number ten, number nine, number nine, Mince and Boo

848
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,039
Timeless Heroes.

849
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was actually surprised to see this guy.

850
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 2: Is this the one?

851
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

852
00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:28,639
Speaker 2: I think that this deck's actually good.

853
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,639
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Okay, well, I mean I've seen it played.

854
00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:33,039
Thomas played this if if we all remember Thomas.

855
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, let me let me try and

856
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,719
read all of the words on this card. The textbox

857
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:43,320
needs to be stretched. Yeah, okay, plains Walker Grueling two

858
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,000
when it enters, the battlefield enters, and at the beginning

859
00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:51,760
of your upkeep, you may create a Boo legendary one

860
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,320
to one hamster Creatchu Choken with trample in haste.

861
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: It's pretty good.

862
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: Okay, it's got three loyalty. You go plus one, but

863
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,400
three plus ones on a target creature and untap it

864
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:09,760
gains Tramplin Haste counters. You put creature with trample with

865
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,280
trample and haste. Okay, yeah, that's weird. I have to

866
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,360
have guys in my deck that have trample and haste.

867
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: He also makes one.

868
00:42:15,639 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what if I fucking what if he dies

869
00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:19,679
the next time?

870
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:20,159
Speaker 1: You make another?

871
00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: One search sacrifice a creature like my hamster guy. Okay,

872
00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:28,400
this is minus two. Sacrifice my hamster guy. When you

873
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:36,480
do mince min minx minsk and Boo deals x damage

874
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,280
to any target where X is that creature's power. If

875
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,840
the sacrifice creature was a hamster, draw x cards, so.

876
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: It burns and draws cards and I hit you for two,

877
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,400
and I draw too.

878
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,639
Speaker 2: Every turn to being of your upkeep, I get a

879
00:42:56,639 --> 00:42:58,719
new one, so I just draw to and hit you

880
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,039
for two every turn. Sure that seems really good. That's

881
00:43:03,159 --> 00:43:05,599
drawing three cards per turn. Yeah, and if you have

882
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:08,000
a full mit, you can hit somebody for fucking four

883
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:09,119
and then your next turn you.

884
00:43:09,079 --> 00:43:10,159
Speaker 1: Can draw four.

885
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: I think I just keep doing it.

886
00:43:12,679 --> 00:43:14,559
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna run out of loyalty eventually.

887
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:19,639
Speaker 2: Fuck, yeah, damn it, you're right, yeah man, Yeah, okay,

888
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:22,679
so it's it's draw one point five extra cards per turn.

889
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty good. I don't know. I like this guy.

890
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: I draw one extra card per turn. Every second turn

891
00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:31,000
you draw two. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's still good.

892
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: It's still pretty good. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah, and

893
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,679
you're drawing more than one extra card if you have

894
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:37,599
to put the counter back on, So you're drawing four

895
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:38,880
cards every.

896
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: What if I just proliferate and I can minus two

897
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,960
every turn, then pretty good?

898
00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:45,199
Speaker 1: Then you're laughing, especially if you have more hamsters.

899
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,559
Speaker 2: What if I proliferate but every time I put a

900
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:50,320
counter on something I have, like a doubling season, that'd

901
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,360
be pretty good too. Yeah, and I would get two hamsters.

902
00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: Oh, but they're legendary.

903
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 2: They're legendary. Damn as if that fucking matters anymore.

904
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, surely just keep both.

905
00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:01,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just make a copy of one and then

906
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:04,199
I'll just copy to one that isn't legendary because there's

907
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:06,199
like one hundred cards that do that. Okay, so this

908
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,719
is our first new one at nine. That's cool.

909
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: Of note, we should probably mention this, Yes, we know

910
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,719
this is from Dungeons and Dragons. Dungeons and Dragons we

911
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,760
have not counted as a universe is beyond because like

912
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,239
it's so closely related that it really didn't. Yeah, we

913
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:21,880
just don't count.

914
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,039
Speaker 2: I was just gonna just gonna bring that important to note. Okay, Well,

915
00:44:26,159 --> 00:44:31,440
number eight is man another Dungeons and Drags and rag

916
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,360
and Draga rated Draga Raga. What did I say?

917
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: Raga Draga rag Gorgot's boss. Let's just say the rest

918
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,119
of the He's got four to four for four human bore.

919
00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:44,239
Each creature you control with mana with a manna ability,

920
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,360
so it's manna ability matters the deck. So all your

921
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,360
manadorcs get plus two plus two. Whenever a creature you

922
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,480
control with a manability attacks you untap it, and whenever

923
00:44:56,519 --> 00:44:58,480
you cast a spell if at least seven or more

924
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:01,960
mana was spent to cast that untapped target creature, it's

925
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,280
gets it gets plus seven plus seven until i have turned.

926
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: Why not all your lanamar elves are three threes? Yes,

927
00:45:10,199 --> 00:45:13,840
you attack with them? Yes, then they untapped? Yes, okay,

928
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,920
whenever you cast a spell if at least seven man,

929
00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:20,519
I was spent to cast it. So I don't know,

930
00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:23,119
play a big thing, play a big dumb idiot. Yeah,

931
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,599
play a bull board and raged.

932
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:25,119
Speaker 1: Sure.

933
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,079
Speaker 2: Uh, untapped target creature gets plus seven and trample until

934
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:30,519
end of turn.

935
00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? When am I supposed to do that? Whenever you want?

936
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 2: Maybe during combat?

937
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: I don't know.

938
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,559
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, I can't play a big dumb

939
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:40,400
idiot at combat unless it has flash.

940
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:42,039
Speaker 1: Well, I guess you'd have to.

941
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,199
Speaker 2: I don't know. This card confuses me. How can we

942
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,840
be a human and a bore? How can it be

943
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,480
a four to four boar for four a four to

944
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,440
four bore for four? Yeah? I said that right? Yeah?

945
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 1: Where board is? How is the answer to your question?

946
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: Yes? Uh? And the way just the old English word

947
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,679
for man will just clear that up. And human and

948
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,480
man we're gonna call those the same thing.

949
00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:10,639
Speaker 1: And the bottom paragraph of text, I don't know why

950
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:12,920
it exists. I'm not gonna lie. I don't know why

951
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,559
that even says that there, But that's.

952
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: What I mean. Yeah, I don't know why they put

953
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,760
that if it's telling me to tap my guys to attack,

954
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,559
and then they're they're gonna untap. Yeah, I'm going to

955
00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:25,599
play stuff post combat. I like cards like that that

956
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:30,840
tell newer players the optimal order of operations under normal circumstances,

957
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,719
and this does that. And then the last paragraph is like,

958
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,199
I don't know, cast a spell after and fucking the

959
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,639
thing that you played untapped. This is fucking weird. I

960
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:42,639
don't know. Maybe maybe on the eed h W rec

961
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,840
pager is just a bunch of flashers. I don't know.

962
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,039
I guess you could play big instance and stuff. Ex.

963
00:46:48,119 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: Spell instance Comet storm comes to mind again.

964
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: At least seven mano was spent to cast it. It

965
00:46:55,519 --> 00:46:57,440
just needs to be a spell. Yeah, it needs to

966
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,960
be untapped target creature. Yeah, well fuck I could do

967
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,079
that during my opponent's turn, like after I attack and

968
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:06,480
then all my guys on tap. Yeah, okay, I don't

969
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,039
hate this card anymore. Yeah. Also, of note, u f

970
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:10,800
you Aiden.

971
00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 1: Plays this guy.

972
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,119
Speaker 2: Yes, this is four to four for bo Yeah it's

973
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:15,559
his boor Guy deck, Yes it is.

974
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then he finds the ways to give them

975
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,280
all man abilities so that they get big and then

976
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:19,760
on tap.

977
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: Yes, it's his pig boy deck. Yeah, yes, yep. Just

978
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:30,639
finished reading the Chronicles of Predained series of novels Tarren Wanderer.

979
00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:33,760
He's a pig boy in number two. Sure he is, Yes,

980
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,960
pig boy. He'd probably like it. I might.

981
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,599
Speaker 1: I don't like anything that's not let's not beat around

982
00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:39,519
the bush. I hate everything.

983
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well this is number seven eight? Nope, eight, Gary, producer, Gary,

984
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,639
he knows what's up. He's looking at the list right now.

985
00:47:51,519 --> 00:47:57,000
Seven seven. Are we good to go to seven? Gary? Yeah?

986
00:47:57,039 --> 00:47:59,559
Speaker 1: Plus seven? Omna, there he is.

987
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 2: Of course he is.

988
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: All the same stuff still applies. Ramp has only gotten

989
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:06,519
better over the years.

990
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 2: Yes.

991
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: Actually, people over at edhreck dot com they do very much.

992
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:13,679
What do you call it? When you advocate for the

993
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,400
four drop spells that get you to land in this land,

994
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,880
it also gives you ten power worth of dude, I

995
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,480
don't hate that. I didn't say it the first time

996
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,360
we talked about imn Now, the reason this deck is

997
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,880
so good is because you only have to do part

998
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,239
of the game. It was like the early game where

999
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,880
you're setting up Omnath is so good because the whole

1000
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,840
deck is just setting up the whole time.

1001
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,559
Speaker 2: But setting up is the payoff exactly once your commanders

1002
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:38,960
and players.

1003
00:48:39,039 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: Setting up is also making you win the games. You

1004
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,679
just never take your foot off the gas, You never

1005
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,880
have to pivot, you don't have to do anything. You

1006
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,400
just have to keep putting fucking land into play and

1007
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,159
you'll win. And if somebody tries to stop you from winning,

1008
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:57,840
you kill them and then start winning again. I've said

1009
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,679
it a million times. The power curve of this deck

1010
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,960
looks like a fucking upside down apple where it's on

1011
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,719
the stama is on the bottom, and the top end

1012
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,840
is this huge fucking thing.

1013
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 2: Yep, it's awesome.

1014
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:10,679
Speaker 1: I love on math.

1015
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yep, such a good deck. I was gonna

1016
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,599
make a joke, but i'll say it for might not

1017
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,639
even be appropriate for CEO.

1018
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: Oh sho, it's a dirty joke.

1019
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 2: Man number six, number.

1020
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:36,559
Speaker 1: Six rum sand man mana dorks matter, A man of

1021
00:49:36,639 --> 00:49:38,960
rocks matter, Man of rocks matter.

1022
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: This time, not man of dorks mattering like four four

1023
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:43,639
four for four.

1024
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: That's right.

1025
00:49:45,039 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: Roxan is a four to three cat druid for five correct. Okay,

1026
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,760
so worse in every way possible. Okay, let's see what

1027
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,719
else ro San enters the battlefield or attacks. Okay, we've

1028
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:02,599
seen those words a few times today. MHM girl, create

1029
00:50:02,639 --> 00:50:06,880
a tapped colorless artifact named meteorite when it enters a

1030
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,440
battlefield that deals two damage to any target and also

1031
00:50:10,519 --> 00:50:12,159
add one man of any color.

1032
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:12,559
Speaker 1: When you tap it.

1033
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it makes a meteorite. Yeah yeah, it's like

1034
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,039
the card. Like the card meteorite, it's a five drop.

1035
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:22,480
It was like from M twenty something. Sure ETBs thump

1036
00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:25,920
somebody or thwomp somebody if you will, and then is

1037
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,079
a manadork.

1038
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,159
Speaker 1: Meteorite should do more than two, or it shouldn't cost five, like.

1039
00:50:31,159 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 2: I'll bet you.

1040
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: And I'm not an expert on this, but there are

1041
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,960
people who have been struck by lightning multiple times. Sure,

1042
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:40,440
and being struck by lightning as we all know from

1043
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,559
a magic players, there's three damage. If you get hit

1044
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:47,599
by a giant rock from fucking space. You only do

1045
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:48,400
that once.

1046
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,199
Speaker 2: Yes, I have a theory about this. This is actually funny,

1047
00:50:51,199 --> 00:50:54,320
but we got to finish your reading rocks and paragraph.

1048
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,719
Whenever you tap an artifact token token for mana add

1049
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:04,559
an additional one so your meteorites, and or any artifact

1050
00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:07,880
tokens that are copies of man of rocks like treasures,

1051
00:51:08,039 --> 00:51:11,920
treasures or if you made a copy of like your

1052
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,239
fucking I don't know.

1053
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: It's all ring cube replicating rings.

1054
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, hey that's a good one. Yeah, yeah, this

1055
00:51:21,039 --> 00:51:25,199
is cool. I like how it's sure enters a battlefield

1056
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,199
or attacks. I got to do a bunch of like

1057
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,800
gruelly shit to do the thing that I want to do.

1058
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:31,920
You have to do what your deck's doing to do

1059
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:32,880
the thing that your deck wants.

1060
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,039
Speaker 1: I don't think that this.

1061
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:36,519
Speaker 2: Deck wants to do the thing that girl wants to do.

1062
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,199
Speaker 1: Doak for fucking four attack.

1063
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,599
Speaker 2: Like, I don't think this is an attacking deck. This

1064
00:51:40,679 --> 00:51:44,119
is an artifact token deck. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm wrong.

1065
00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:46,679
Speaker 1: For the record, played this deck?

1066
00:51:47,079 --> 00:51:48,199
Speaker 2: Yep, you did?

1067
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: Ye?

1068
00:51:48,679 --> 00:51:52,199
Speaker 2: Did it? Like to attack? I suppose I was playing

1069
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,800
enters or attacks like she has to do it? Yeah yeah, okay,

1070
00:51:57,679 --> 00:52:02,920
just blinker, I could could. So here's the thing, lightning

1071
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,119
bolt versus meteorite, and I would love to start this

1072
00:52:06,199 --> 00:52:10,920
debate online with other magic creators, aficionados, people in the nation,

1073
00:52:11,039 --> 00:52:17,000
et cetera. Okay, generally, okay, some dude, just like walking

1074
00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:20,960
down the street like a human token. Sure, he's like

1075
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:27,960
a one one Yeah, Okay, lightning bolt deals three damage. Yeah,

1076
00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:32,920
getting struck by lightning should kill a human. Yeah, but

1077
00:52:33,079 --> 00:52:39,639
sometimes it doesn't. What's the card that makes it so randomly?

1078
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,679
I just don't die if I get struck by lightning, Like,

1079
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,159
what is that card that makes it? Like? Is it?

1080
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,800
Is it heroic intervention? No, it's not giant growth, giant growth,

1081
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,280
but I'm not getting bigger? Is it just like Holy Day?

1082
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,440
Is it? Well? And Holy Day doesn't do it because

1083
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,599
that's only combat damage, avoid fate, avoid fate. Okay, that's

1084
00:53:02,639 --> 00:53:04,679
a good one. I was gonna say fog. Fog doesn't

1085
00:53:04,679 --> 00:53:07,079
do it. Lightning don't care about fog, right.

1086
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,199
Speaker 1: Actually, lightning would probably hurt more in the fog because

1087
00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:11,719
there's so much moisturing. Yeah, maybe it might do five

1088
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,719
damage in the fog.

1089
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:19,639
Speaker 2: Also, one hundred percent, you're right, A fucking rock hurling

1090
00:53:19,679 --> 00:53:22,679
itself towards the center of the Earth, because gravity is

1091
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,599
a real force in the universe faster than the speed

1092
00:53:26,639 --> 00:53:30,639
of fucking sound is gonna kill me. Yeah, one hundred

1093
00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:33,800
percent of the time it strikes anywhere on my body

1094
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:34,199
that's it.

1095
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,639
Speaker 1: There are people walking around right now. If been struck

1096
00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:38,760
by lightning and survived, there's a car that gets them

1097
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,239
out of that. Nobody gets away from being struck with

1098
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,239
a metior Nobody, nobody, nobody has.

1099
00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:46,119
Speaker 2: Ever been struck by a metea or and survived.

1100
00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about space dust. I'm talking an

1101
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,760
actual meteor Yeah, Like, if something the size of a

1102
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,440
small car flying out of space hits you, it's gonna

1103
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,119
kill you, Yes, and whoever standing next to you, and

1104
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:01,280
maybe that guy over there too.

1105
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: There was a meteorite like in twenty fourteen or whatever

1106
00:54:04,039 --> 00:54:06,360
that flew over Russia and when it hit the atmosphere,

1107
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:11,800
it exploded. The exploding rock in the fucking sky killed people.

1108
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:16,760
It set off car alarms in the entire city with

1109
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,719
blue windows out of fucking like. People were like, oh,

1110
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,199
look at that thing. It exploded smash.

1111
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: Russia.

1112
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 2: Oh. Producer producer Gary fucking.

1113
00:54:34,119 --> 00:54:36,599
Speaker 1: Had the exclusive coming through clutch.

1114
00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:40,199
Speaker 2: Yes, so he can confirm meteorites falling out of the sky.

1115
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: Meteor stronger than lightning, yes, yep, yes, rocksand pretty fun.

1116
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 2: Card stronger than rocks lightning.

1117
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,679
Speaker 1: I mean, not stronger than ball lightning, but still pretty good.

1118
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, no, yeah that for them ball Lightning.

1119
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm surprised that she's in the top top ten.

1120
00:54:57,039 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: To be honest, I to this might be well, she's

1121
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:04,039
from Cowboy hat a recency bias as they call it

1122
00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:07,000
on EDA track. I guess that was a long tangent.

1123
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:11,079
I forgot we're even recording. Yeah, what numbers is five? Six, six,

1124
00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:15,320
one on to five? Baby, here we go, wolver we

1125
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:16,039
fuck off.

1126
00:55:16,159 --> 00:55:18,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is our first universe is beyond it is

1127
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:19,559
and it sucks.

1128
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,119
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a too two mutant berserker hero all

1129
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,159
hero hero relevant creature type. Now with the Marvel stuff

1130
00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:30,039
that's coming out now, it's.

1131
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,039
Speaker 1: Gonna be It's gonna be relevant for the next three

1132
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:33,960
months and then you're never gonna see it again until

1133
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,239
the next fucking Marvel set.

1134
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,519
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll do a Maybe they'll do a DC universe,

1135
00:55:39,559 --> 00:55:42,519
and then we'll have like Batman, he'll be an anti hero.

1136
00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:50,719
We'll have Superman, Supergirl, super Boy, Crypto, Crypto, that's the dog. Yeah, okay,

1137
00:55:52,039 --> 00:55:56,440
two two for three, he's got double all damage. Wolverine

1138
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,440
would deal cool. Cool, So he's like a four to

1139
00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:03,800
two when he attacks at the beginning of each end step,

1140
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,119
if Wolverine dealt damage to another creature, this turn put

1141
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:09,320
a plus one counter on Wolverine.

1142
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,679
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, I don't know why he does that, but sure.

1143
00:56:13,159 --> 00:56:18,199
Speaker 2: Also regenerate for green one. Who we know why he

1144
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:18,599
does that.

1145
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,199
Speaker 1: Because he wolver regenerated.

1146
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:25,159
Speaker 2: Yes, how I love that they took this modern card

1147
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,960
with modern design principles and philosophies and they put regenerate

1148
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,840
on it. Yeah, I do have to tip my hat.

1149
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,280
They didn't. They didn't skirt around it saying pay two

1150
00:56:36,519 --> 00:56:41,199
and tap it. He gains indestructible until and a turn regenerate.

1151
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,320
Those people who know would know yep, that that is like, oh,

1152
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,719
he can't die, he stays alive. But no, they just

1153
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,440
went full bore regenerate. So now anybody who knows anything

1154
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:56,800
about fucking Wolverine is gonna get it like that, right,

1155
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,559
and they're gonna say, oh, this guy is the only

1156
00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:03,760
guy that has regenerated because he regenerates. And then now culturally,

1157
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,039
us old guys get to say, actually, regenerate was like

1158
00:57:07,079 --> 00:57:09,760
a card from Alpha, like the first set ever. I

1159
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,599
got to hold the original art for Alpha or for Regenerating. Yeah,

1160
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:16,079
it was very cool Quentin Hoover. Very cool.

1161
00:57:16,119 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like that guy. Yeah, it's our first

1162
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:18,840
Voltron commander too.

1163
00:57:19,559 --> 00:57:20,239
Speaker 2: Oh kind of is.

1164
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,679
Speaker 1: Clearly that's what this guy is gonna do, right, You're

1165
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:27,719
gonna beef him up somehow and then kill wolver beef.

1166
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Beeferine, Wolverine, Beeferene, Wolverine beast or beef there is.

1167
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,519
Speaker 1: And he's want like five foot four, he's like a

1168
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:42,760
little this is a little gone and he's from Canada. Yeah,

1169
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,159
somebody look it up. Somebody look at how big Wolverine is.

1170
00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:46,559
While we go on to the next card.

1171
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 2: Okay, well this is card five. It's our first universe beyond.

1172
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: So we're a one keb kebu Tabi Prince, k Tabi Prince.

1173
00:57:56,559 --> 00:58:01,239
Speaker 2: This is a jumpstart card Monkey Noble, so put it in

1174
00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:06,239
your Noble deck. And this is a throwback to Magic's

1175
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:10,840
history again with uktabi orangutang and uktabi other things from

1176
00:58:11,239 --> 00:58:14,599
a round mirage block era in like ninety six or

1177
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:20,840
ninety seven. That's right, five foot three, five foot three

1178
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,639
shut outs, all the short kings out there, like.

1179
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:30,039
Speaker 4: The random Yeah, not as Harry though, Monkey Noble two

1180
00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:35,639
two for three tap each create each player creates a colorless.

1181
00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:45,039
Speaker 2: Token named banana. Two sacrifice add red or green. You

1182
00:58:45,159 --> 00:58:48,039
gain two life. That's what banana does. Neat goes good

1183
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:52,760
in Roxanne rocks hend Yeah, whenever an artifact or an

1184
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,360
opponent controls is put into the grave heard from the battlefield,

1185
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,920
but a plus one counter on each creature you control.

1186
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:01,760
That's an ape or a monkey.

1187
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,719
Speaker 1: It could be voltron, could be a ridiculous creature type

1188
00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:10,360
matters deck. Yes, apes or monkeys.

1189
00:59:10,639 --> 00:59:17,719
Speaker 2: Whenever keyboard attacks, defending player sacrifices and artifact. Yeah, this

1190
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,360
feels like a universe is beyond card, doesn't it. This

1191
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,039
feels like they're this feels like they're like, oh, what

1192
00:59:24,039 --> 00:59:26,079
are you gonna do for, like make a Donkey Kong card.

1193
00:59:26,679 --> 00:59:29,719
It's just making some bananas and some life gain and

1194
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:35,119
monkey stuff. This feels like a universe is beyond card

1195
00:59:35,159 --> 00:59:35,679
though it isn't.

1196
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,639
Speaker 1: And then Nintendo was like, yeah, we got a can that.

1197
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,519
Speaker 2: We got a can that pay us more money.

1198
00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:42,719
Speaker 1: Exactly, it's gonna cost you a lot more money. Guys, Well,

1199
00:59:42,719 --> 00:59:45,760
you know what, fuck you, We'll just make another monkey. Also,

1200
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,079
for the record, local guy does play this deck.

1201
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, I played against this deck in Las Vegas too.

1202
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:53,800
Oh is it?

1203
00:59:54,239 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: It's pretty good? Actually, they got they got here. I

1204
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,480
think it's a very stout deck like it's very good

1205
00:59:58,519 --> 01:00:01,000
to guess it's giving you life and manna. But he

1206
01:00:01,039 --> 01:00:04,719
can very quickly take that life and manna away, Yeah,

1207
01:00:04,719 --> 01:00:06,239
by killing you, so you have no manna.

1208
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: I would not be surprised to see this Reskin as

1209
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,239
Donkey Kong one day when we do get the inevitable

1210
01:00:12,199 --> 01:00:16,119
Mario Nintendo Secret Layer crossover. We got the PlayStation one,

1211
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,079
We're gonna get the Mario one. Even producer Gary knows, Yeah,

1212
01:00:20,119 --> 01:00:20,960
which I'm fine with.

1213
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:21,639
Speaker 1: That's fine.

1214
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: If you want to do the universes beyond, give us

1215
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,920
the reskins, give us the thing that obviously draws people in,

1216
01:00:27,039 --> 01:00:30,280
like SpongeBob did for my son ye or Jaws did

1217
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,400
for you. That's different because that was that was a

1218
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:34,400
unique card.

1219
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:35,559
Speaker 1: But Jaws is so good.

1220
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is number five.

1221
01:00:38,719 --> 01:00:41,039
Speaker 1: You know who's better at doing kebo stuff than this is?

1222
01:00:41,119 --> 01:00:44,719
This guy's number five, fucking Jaws.

1223
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,039
Speaker 2: Number four or to the top three three, this guy's

1224
01:00:47,039 --> 01:00:47,519
almost it.

1225
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well some of them are. I Actually, I'm

1226
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,760
pretty sure I know two of the guys are gonna

1227
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,559
be on there, and one of them makes me really sad.

1228
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: This guy's almost him. He's almost in the top three.

1229
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,840
I know, guys's almost a bronze medal winner. Actually Olympics.

1230
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,239
Speaker 1: I actually think I know the top three. Fuck at

1231
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,039
the top of my head, I think I actually know who.

1232
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 2: They Arekay, this is number three coming up? Baby, let's

1233
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,599
go not a wolf?

1234
01:01:16,719 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: Ah, this is the Remember was an episode maybe seven

1235
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,079
or eight of Commander Cookout podcast.

1236
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 2: We talked about the worst creature type of all time,

1237
01:01:26,519 --> 01:01:27,079
were wolf.

1238
01:01:27,159 --> 01:01:32,119
Speaker 1: They'll wear wolf and the fucking werewolf commander is number three.

1239
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,559
Speaker 2: This is what's his real name, though I don't know,

1240
01:01:36,199 --> 01:01:38,000
Trev Trevidar.

1241
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: Dire Overlord. Like this is so bad that Watson tried

1242
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,199
to retcon make them good and added in a mechanic

1243
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,920
to the game that literally nobody fucking likes, and they

1244
01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:51,679
still suck, and he's still number.

1245
01:01:51,559 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 2: Three and looking he's still sad.

1246
01:01:53,719 --> 01:01:58,079
Speaker 1: Grol making shitty shitty game mechanics good and making people

1247
01:01:58,119 --> 01:01:58,880
want to play them.

1248
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 2: No, Gruel making shitty shitty game mechanics and people want

1249
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,119
to play them. Yeah, yeah, you you added making them good?

1250
01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:09,719
Oh yeah, yeah, it's not doing that.

1251
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. You're right, they're not going.

1252
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 2: Let's introduce day and night into the game, and then

1253
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,719
people have to track that and it makes my creatures

1254
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:17,800
actively worse.

1255
01:02:18,119 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking god damn it. So what he says, he's

1256
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,239
a three three for three, two of which involved gruel.

1257
01:02:25,239 --> 01:02:27,719
Whenever a wolf or werewolf you control those combat damage

1258
01:02:27,719 --> 01:02:29,719
to player draw card at the beginning of your upkeep.

1259
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,199
If you control three or more wolves and or wear wolves,

1260
01:02:34,039 --> 01:02:37,199
it becomes night. Then transform any number of human were

1261
01:02:37,239 --> 01:02:41,719
wolves you control. Fuck, we're not going to explain how

1262
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:42,519
day and night work.

1263
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,559
Speaker 2: I wasn't even I don't know what this card does.

1264
01:02:44,599 --> 01:02:48,880
I wasn't even listening. Flip it over. This is King

1265
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,440
of Wolves. Oh now he is a wolf.

1266
01:02:50,519 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's got his his suit on. This is

1267
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,320
a cool secret. I kind of wish I bought it

1268
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:55,480
because the cards are funny.

1269
01:02:55,519 --> 01:02:58,639
Speaker 2: There's a ul the wolves behind him. How he can

1270
01:02:58,719 --> 01:03:00,519
be he can't even be the King of wolves if

1271
01:03:00,519 --> 01:03:02,079
he's not even the king of fucking a bunch of

1272
01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:03,000
guys that are like him.

1273
01:03:03,079 --> 01:03:05,559
Speaker 1: He's such the King of wolves that bears respect him.

1274
01:03:05,559 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 2: It's got fucking Daredevil and some giant beaver thing, yeah

1275
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:11,960
behind him.

1276
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,119
Speaker 1: He flips into a four four whenever a wolf for

1277
01:03:14,199 --> 01:03:16,599
werewolf you control those combat damage to player drug cards.

1278
01:03:16,639 --> 01:03:18,760
He's a card dry engine in your shitty, shitty shitty deck.

1279
01:03:19,039 --> 01:03:22,280
Then he has cruel x target wolf for whereof you

1280
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,400
control gets plus x plus on against trample into end

1281
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:24,760
of turn.

1282
01:03:25,119 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 2: So he has what is that the wolf run?

1283
01:03:28,719 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kessig Wolf Run.

1284
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kessig Wolf Run. I'm just gonna play Kessig Wolf

1285
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,000
Run and not use a fucking commander slot in my

1286
01:03:35,079 --> 01:03:38,039
deck because I got about forty slots for lands in

1287
01:03:38,079 --> 01:03:40,760
some decks. I got one slot for my commander. Yeah.

1288
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,480
This guy's not it, that's right, So this is not him.

1289
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:47,199
Speaker 1: This guy being so high is insane and as somebody

1290
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,280
that did try and play were wolves and I even

1291
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,880
added blue to mind, is terrible and I hate it.

1292
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,519
I hate everything about it.

1293
01:03:56,719 --> 01:03:57,559
Speaker 2: Fucking webs.

1294
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:58,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's move on.

1295
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 2: You know what's a werewolf web? What's what is that?

1296
01:04:01,719 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: Aware web?

1297
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:03,199
Speaker 2: Aware?

1298
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: A we wolf? A we wolf like we wolf wolf?

1299
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,119
Speaker 2: This is three.

1300
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: That's number three.

1301
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:10,599
Speaker 2: Man.

1302
01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: Oh and kate myself, this next one is gonna be good.

1303
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:16,519
You're gonna like this.

1304
01:04:16,599 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 2: Gird my loins.

1305
01:04:17,639 --> 01:04:21,079
Speaker 1: Gird Yeah, girdam, girdam with a girdle or a beer

1306
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:21,559
can or.

1307
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:25,559
Speaker 2: Something, I don't know. A tally primal conqueror. This is

1308
01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:26,440
new Tallie.

1309
01:04:26,599 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what this ship is.

1310
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 2: This is a clone deck. This is also a CEDH Dynastic.

1311
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,639
Speaker 1: It's a CDH clone deck.

1312
01:04:35,679 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a seven to seven Elder Dinosaur,

1313
01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:41,519
so we can play our elder Dinosaur, Highlander DH seven

1314
01:04:41,639 --> 01:04:49,440
seven or Red Red five. Yeah, trample. When a tally

1315
01:04:49,519 --> 01:04:53,440
Primal conquer enters the battlefield, each player exiles cards from

1316
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,599
the top of their library until they exile a non

1317
01:04:55,679 --> 01:04:59,360
land card. You may cast any number of spells from

1318
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,599
among the on land cards exiled this way without paying

1319
01:05:02,639 --> 01:05:09,760
their manecost correct. Also Fyrexian green here it is and

1320
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:15,960
nine and you transform a talley only as a sorcery correct.

1321
01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:18,119
So he's a steal your thing and play it for

1322
01:05:18,199 --> 01:05:22,199
free for seven seven seven trampler for nine. Yes that

1323
01:05:22,239 --> 01:05:26,360
we flip right into this is number two.

1324
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,559
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, the other side doesn't even matter.

1325
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:35,519
Speaker 2: An eleven eleven with infect essentially trample and indestructible.

1326
01:05:35,679 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't even matter, Like who gives a shit

1327
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:39,320
about that?

1328
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 2: And note, wow, it's a one pump chump at that point,

1329
01:05:43,639 --> 01:05:48,239
I guess when you transform him, you're transforming, you're not

1330
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,159
exiling him then returning him to the battlefield. So when

1331
01:05:51,239 --> 01:05:57,440
you transform him that trample and indestructible is probably because

1332
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,480
you're doing it on the following turn after you play him,

1333
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,960
he doesn't leave and come back, so he's he can attack.

1334
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,079
Speaker 1: What you're actually doing is you ramp into a Tully. Yes,

1335
01:06:08,119 --> 01:06:10,159
you steal your opponent's ship, and then you use heat

1336
01:06:10,159 --> 01:06:12,679
shimmer and that thing lots to flip coins to make

1337
01:06:12,719 --> 01:06:15,320
more guys and everything that says, put a token of

1338
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,199
copy copy of target creature into play, do whatever the

1339
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,519
jerk off fucking shit is, yes, and then you keep

1340
01:06:21,559 --> 01:06:24,639
stealing your opponent stuff until you win. That's what this

1341
01:06:24,719 --> 01:06:25,159
deck does.

1342
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: You clone a.

1343
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,559
Speaker 1: Tlley over and over and over and over and over

1344
01:06:27,559 --> 01:06:29,159
again until they fucking die.

1345
01:06:29,639 --> 01:06:31,719
Speaker 2: It's not a clone deck. It's a mill deck.

1346
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's a cloning combo mill deck.

1347
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:43,079
Speaker 2: Your dual castor mage ah, that other one.

1348
01:06:43,079 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, all that other ship. Yeah, there's a bunch of them.

1349
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,800
I can't think of them all right now, but a

1350
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,440
bunch of them, Like game like, they went up in

1351
01:06:49,519 --> 01:06:52,079
value quite a bit, because this is a really popular deck.

1352
01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:54,119
Speaker 2: Okay, I would play the ship out of this deck.

1353
01:06:54,159 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: This is a good one.

1354
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:59,719
Speaker 2: Can I play a non deterministic combo deck that people

1355
01:06:59,719 --> 01:07:02,559
are going to fucking hate? And and really the game

1356
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,760
is just can I survive long enough to combo? Is

1357
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,000
that the game that that your good friend Ryan wants

1358
01:07:08,039 --> 01:07:08,360
to play?

1359
01:07:08,599 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: Fuck?

1360
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right. If I'm gonna do something like mail or

1361
01:07:14,519 --> 01:07:18,000
like nondeterministic combos like I did in Zada, We've talked

1362
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,159
about that when we did Red.

1363
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:19,639
Speaker 1: Yep.

1364
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,679
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to play the political game and the

1365
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:26,000
social game and the stay alive long enough game so

1366
01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:27,519
I can do the thing that I want to do

1367
01:07:27,559 --> 01:07:29,239
in magic, which is this bullshit.

1368
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,199
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you run out of opponents to steal

1369
01:07:31,199 --> 01:07:33,280
stuff from, there's only one guy left, just flip them

1370
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:34,599
over and fucking kill him.

1371
01:07:34,679 --> 01:07:40,159
Speaker 2: Yeah you do? Yeah, Yeah, dude, that is what you do. Yep.

1372
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: Like this guy.

1373
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 2: Hell, I wished this guy was number one.

1374
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,639
Speaker 1: From what I've been told. I remember, I forget I

1375
01:07:46,679 --> 01:07:48,480
was talking to I was talking to Dana one time

1376
01:07:48,719 --> 01:07:53,159
and Toby actually about Rourick Thar in the CDH meta

1377
01:07:53,199 --> 01:07:55,280
and how Stax kind of doesn't exist in CDH at

1378
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,199
this exact moment in time recording.

1379
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:58,679
Speaker 2: Okay, and don't add us.

1380
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: Both of them did say that that space got occupied

1381
01:08:03,559 --> 01:08:06,119
by a toolly because the shell is basically the same,

1382
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,239
but the payoff is a little different. Because rurik Thar

1383
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,679
is passive and waiting for your opponents to do stuff, yes,

1384
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,239
and Atali is active for as long as you're acting

1385
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,319
upon his ability, you're doing things to progress your own

1386
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:17,800
board state.

1387
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:22,319
Speaker 2: Yes. And in progressing your board state by doing your

1388
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:26,119
commander thing with a toolley, you're taking away cards that

1389
01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:30,399
your opponents have. Yeah. And I've got a funny story

1390
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:35,319
about this actually in CEDH a couple times, and it's

1391
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:39,760
been with absolutely randoms in Vegas when I'm either hammered

1392
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,239
or hungover or both and I sit down and it's

1393
01:08:43,239 --> 01:08:46,680
CDH and I'm plan BRUVAC and they're like, huh really,

1394
01:08:48,119 --> 01:08:50,640
And I'll sit down, I'll PLoP a Tashi's hideous laughter

1395
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:55,439
down and you you it's not mill it's exile until

1396
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,560
you hit twenty cmc worth of shit off of your deck. Yeah,

1397
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,000
And people are like, what but in CDH, when everything

1398
01:09:03,039 --> 01:09:06,800
costs one or two or zero or as a land,

1399
01:09:07,119 --> 01:09:09,880
Like sometimes you'll get twenty five or thirty cards from

1400
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:14,560
each of your opponents, and bouncing atalley is can kind

1401
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:18,439
of maybe be the same. But my point is is

1402
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,760
if I hit like twenty or thirty of your cards,

1403
01:09:22,159 --> 01:09:25,039
I might get both sides of your win. Con Like,

1404
01:09:25,119 --> 01:09:29,079
if I can push that through because people don't kind

1405
01:09:29,119 --> 01:09:31,159
of put as much weight on it, And maybe I

1406
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,560
need to use one counterspell because some guy you know,

1407
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,800
topped back the card of his library that he wanted

1408
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,079
to draw or hide, et cetera. Sure got to push

1409
01:09:39,119 --> 01:09:42,640
through one counterspell and then mill twenty or thirty from everybody,

1410
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:48,399
and they're like, oh, you got my oracle and my consultation. Fuck,

1411
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,199
I guess I'm gonna try and win by attacking you

1412
01:09:51,239 --> 01:09:54,159
with my three to three commander oops. And it's like, no,

1413
01:09:54,279 --> 01:09:57,159
you're not. I got a one four or whatever. Right. Yeah.

1414
01:09:57,279 --> 01:10:01,039
So yeah, the non deterministic shit that where you can

1415
01:10:01,159 --> 01:10:04,800
just take a few times turn overturn, that's gonna be

1416
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,760
way plenty enough value, especially because the higher power you go,

1417
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,760
the average power level of thing you steal is so

1418
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:13,680
much higher.

1419
01:10:14,319 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 1: Right, and you get three of them, you get three

1420
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:21,760
of them? Yeah, Unctually one's not enough for Gruel, not

1421
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:25,199
for a talie. You want to play a guessing game, Ryn, No,

1422
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,880
too bad or plan anyway. So next week we're gonna

1423
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,199
talk about Celestia. What are the two things.

1424
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 2: That this is?

1425
01:10:31,039 --> 01:10:34,239
Speaker 1: Card two? Yeah, we're talking about next we're talking about

1426
01:10:34,279 --> 01:10:35,600
card one. But I'm gonna make you guess what a

1427
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:40,319
fuck it is. Watch this, Okay, watch Cilestia. Okay, there's

1428
01:10:40,359 --> 01:10:41,680
two things. What are the two things?

1429
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 2: Tokens and plus one counters? No, I don't know.

1430
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: Enchantress?

1431
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 2: Oh sure, Yeah?

1432
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: What does Gruel do better than Celestnia besides everything? Tokens, Enchantress, Enchantress,

1433
01:11:00,039 --> 01:11:02,439
show it to him, Ryan, show him. I know this

1434
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,640
is I know he's number one. I'm so confident. I'm

1435
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:10,319
so confident that Bellow Heart of Brambles, the Ultimate Enchantresus Commander,

1436
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,279
is number fucking one. The most fairest, most balanced magic

1437
01:11:14,279 --> 01:11:19,039
of the gathering card in history, but the most powerful

1438
01:11:19,199 --> 01:11:22,479
Level one deck you will ever see played.

1439
01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: By me, But not the most handsomest.

1440
01:11:24,079 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: No, he is not the handsomest, still reserved for he's

1441
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,159
also not really that versatile. You can play all sorts

1442
01:11:29,159 --> 01:11:30,880
of fun cards in there, but they all have to

1443
01:11:31,119 --> 01:11:32,840
very rigid structure to which.

1444
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:37,199
Speaker 2: They here, Yes, not very flexible, that's right. Yes. Ah.

1445
01:11:37,239 --> 01:11:40,720
How does it feel to play the number one commander

1446
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,399
in ed h rec Given that I feel he is

1447
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,039
number one because of your boy, I feel very good?

1448
01:11:46,319 --> 01:11:46,960
You guys are you?

1449
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 1: Guys are all welcome trendsetter.

1450
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: So he's a three to three for three gruel and

1451
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:55,960
one raccoon bard sure, A lot, a lot like you,

1452
01:11:56,439 --> 01:12:01,680
A lot like you. During your turn, each non equipment

1453
01:12:02,359 --> 01:12:06,439
artifact and non aura enchantment you control with man of

1454
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,479
value four or greater is a four to four elemental

1455
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:13,359
creature in addition to each other types, and has indestructible

1456
01:12:13,399 --> 01:12:18,119
and haste And whenever this creature deals combat damage to a.

1457
01:12:18,119 --> 01:12:19,159
Speaker 1: Player draw card?

1458
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,399
Speaker 2: What the fuck is going on?

1459
01:12:22,399 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: Why does that have so all that shit? Why does

1460
01:12:25,039 --> 01:12:28,560
it say so many things? Elemental creature four to four

1461
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,560
is enough? Indestructible is even better?

1462
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 2: Oh?

1463
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: Fuck haste?

1464
01:12:33,279 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 2: Why not? Why wouldn't it have haste? You know what?

1465
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,479
Rule just doesn't have enough love. Let's make it draw

1466
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:41,159
cards too.

1467
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have certainly talked about this card on many

1468
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,319
an occasion. Yes, you think that the Great Henge is

1469
01:12:49,359 --> 01:12:52,079
fair and balanced? Right now. Wait until it's a fucking

1470
01:12:52,279 --> 01:12:54,359
five to five that draws itself a card when it

1471
01:12:54,359 --> 01:12:57,199
comes into play and then draws you another one where

1472
01:12:57,239 --> 01:13:01,119
it hits some motherfucker for five. Now we're talking fair

1473
01:13:01,159 --> 01:13:06,399
and balance. Yes, God, I love Bellow so much. This

1474
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,239
is so cool. I know that Pep the d D

1475
01:13:08,399 --> 01:13:10,039
plays that. I saw a bunch of them in Vegas.

1476
01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:12,279
I play it. I was, I was a day one

1477
01:13:12,319 --> 01:13:14,399
adopter of Bello. I love this deck.

1478
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about Bellow as soon as it came out,

1479
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,760
because I think you keyed on pretty early that it

1480
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:26,520
does this and this and this, and it still does

1481
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,920
the things that all of those cards do, like they

1482
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,319
don't lose all their abilities. Yeah, they still do all

1483
01:13:32,359 --> 01:13:32,760
their things.

1484
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: You can play so much, and this is important for

1485
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,880
him being a raccoon trash. But the deck is full

1486
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,680
of garbage and you beat people to death with it.

1487
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: Oh my goy. Indestructible.

1488
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,399
Speaker 1: Why not indestructible? That is the weirdest part.

1489
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 2: Now only during your turn, so it shuts off when

1490
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,560
it ain't your turn anymore. But that's true. Yeah, but uh,

1491
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,520
there's no way you're gonna have answers and all the cards.

1492
01:13:57,359 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna draw.

1493
01:13:58,760 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely not.

1494
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 1: There's no way all the four drop Man of Rocks

1495
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,079
that are five to five with trample haste and a fidian. Right,

1496
01:14:04,039 --> 01:14:06,000
it's indestructible haste and a fidian.

1497
01:14:06,079 --> 01:14:08,199
Speaker 2: Are gonna be able to replay Bellow. If somebody else

1498
01:14:08,239 --> 01:14:10,840
it never mind. If you have any enchantments that cost

1499
01:14:11,079 --> 01:14:14,399
four or five that allow you to take extra combat phases.

1500
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,479
If you had that, it would be like taking extra

1501
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,439
turns and never giving them away for shame, for shame.

1502
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:25,199
Speaker 1: What I love Bello. This is so cool. He deserves

1503
01:14:25,199 --> 01:14:26,039
the top spot.

1504
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 2: Man like he's yeah, it's a cool one.

1505
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,079
Speaker 1: Not even Universes Beyond for the record, Oh yeah, we

1506
01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:31,359
only had one. So let's do it.

1507
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,239
Speaker 2: Let's do a little recap here. Let's do a recap

1508
01:14:34,279 --> 01:14:39,760
Bellow number one. Of course, some questionable choices people have

1509
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,880
made throughout the history of everything, but we've got Xenaghost,

1510
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,159
God of Rebels. That's that's the power doubler.

1511
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,520
Speaker 1: The furthest drop we've seen also in any commander on

1512
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:50,199
the list.

1513
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:55,399
Speaker 2: Minks in Boo, almost Universes Beyond, close enough, c edh

1514
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,560
and beloved character in the D and D sphere, and

1515
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,840
Plainswalker Commander. Yes, right, so that's got a lot of

1516
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,439
things going for it. We've got boor.

1517
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 1: Ragged Dragon like sure, man of Guys Matter.

1518
01:15:13,319 --> 01:15:17,039
Speaker 2: Man of Guys Matter, Sure, No, not universe on D

1519
01:15:17,119 --> 01:15:17,920
and D, D and.

1520
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: D, D and D beyond D and d's nuts. Yep,

1521
01:15:21,079 --> 01:15:21,880
that was a good one.

1522
01:15:22,119 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 2: Omnath Locus of Rage. Another guy. I would say this, Evergreen, he'll.

1523
01:15:27,239 --> 01:15:30,399
Speaker 1: Be around until the until they print somebody better Evergreen

1524
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:37,560
and Red. Nicely done. Roxanne still surprising. I'm surprised she's there.

1525
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a weird one.

1526
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,359
Speaker 1: That's a strange, strange one.

1527
01:15:41,399 --> 01:15:43,199
Speaker 2: But I've played against it and I know it's good.

1528
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I played it was fun, but I can't I don't.

1529
01:15:46,359 --> 01:15:50,560
Speaker 2: Know can argue with the people. Wolverine best there is,

1530
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:51,560
best there ever was.

1531
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 1: Guy wouldn't go that far.

1532
01:15:53,159 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 2: No, does have regenerate shout out to whoever at wats

1533
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,920
He had to jerk off Mark girls Water to get

1534
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,119
that one to a carget. He's five ft three.

1535
01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: That's my favorite.

1536
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:09,560
Speaker 2: Yes, so is Mark Rosewater. Uh Kibukabi Prince Donkey Kong

1537
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,720
baby is literally the guy who the Toby rang A

1538
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,159
rang A Tang was pregnant with back in the nineties.

1539
01:16:16,359 --> 01:16:18,520
Now he's now his mom's and is his mom in

1540
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,680
the background. Yeah, she's old, he's a grown up. Yeah,

1541
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,159
she's a fucking grandma probably probably is.

1542
01:16:24,319 --> 01:16:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's slinging them bananas everywhere given bananas has been

1543
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,840
given to life you. But she has two kids too.

1544
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, kid for his life. That's that's literally, that's

1545
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,960
fucking not a wolf. Bullshit. I'm skipping past him the

1546
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:40,920
other where we'll thinking. You can get fucked a taliat too. Yeah,

1547
01:16:41,079 --> 01:16:45,359
that's really good. Yep, And bellow your your boy, the.

1548
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: Lord of gorbage, Bellow Bart of Brambles. Everybody build your ones.

1549
01:16:50,119 --> 01:16:52,800
It's always fun to say it's a one, and they

1550
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,479
can't talk you out of it being a one because

1551
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:55,720
it is, because it's full of shit.

1552
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 2: Because it's a theme deck. All the shitty enchantments that

1553
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,199
you have propping up table so they don't wobble, yep, yep.

1554
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,399
But when they're four to fours with indestructible haste that

1555
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:08,600
draw you a card, they're pretty good. There we go. Okay,

1556
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:13,239
so what's what's next on the Arc of Evolution agenda?

1557
01:17:13,279 --> 01:17:14,239
What are we doing next week?

1558
01:17:14,319 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: We are going to talk about. I'm gonna get flack

1559
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,720
for this, and I know that, but I am actually

1560
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:24,840
excited to talk about Celestia next week because I think

1561
01:17:25,079 --> 01:17:28,479
that a lot of people, myself included, feel like it's

1562
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,399
all gonna be a bunch of token decks then an

1563
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:32,680
Enchantress deck on top.

1564
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,039
Speaker 2: Could be, or some variation of that. Plus one counters

1565
01:17:36,079 --> 01:17:37,840
it does a lot of It's gonna be a lot

1566
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,319
of value, lots of fucking piddly soldiery thing.

1567
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,319
Speaker 1: How many decks does Doubling season go in on this list?

1568
01:17:44,359 --> 01:17:44,960
You know what I mean.

1569
01:17:45,159 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a trend we watch for you, right,

1570
01:17:47,119 --> 01:17:51,680
and I'm gonna I'm gonna have a fearful prediction that

1571
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:53,359
I think it's gonna surprise us.

1572
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: I think that we're gonna see some some neat shit.

1573
01:17:56,279 --> 01:18:00,520
Speaker 2: We were to be pleasantly surprised with Azorious. Yep. I

1574
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,920
had a lot of fun with Demir. And I don't

1575
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,560
even play a lot of Demir. I just like what

1576
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,560
it does in theory. I just like Demir, even though

1577
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,600
I don't play a lot of it. Right, we saw

1578
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,880
some huh and oh yeah moments going backwards in time

1579
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:19,279
with like all the mono colors, so we've had quite

1580
01:18:19,279 --> 01:18:23,000
a diversity of experience, which I am fully expecting to

1581
01:18:23,039 --> 01:18:26,760
get again with Celestnia because I don't play very much

1582
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,960
Celestia and you play none.

1583
01:18:29,039 --> 01:18:32,199
Speaker 1: I play none. I've have I ever. Oh no, that

1584
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:36,159
uh Vanilla Commander in ninety nine Lands.

1585
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,199
Speaker 2: That was a Celesnia deck Jasmine Boreal.

1586
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, the only Celesnia deck.

1587
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 2: I think my experience with Celesnia is beating Max Crandell

1588
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:53,000
when he plays it, or me playing like band or

1589
01:18:53,399 --> 01:18:54,920
Or or Naya.

1590
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: Drisdo word I had a drisdo Worden deck. He was

1591
01:18:59,119 --> 01:19:00,840
He was Celestia, but he was of Ultron deck, so

1592
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,439
literally the opposite of everything we're gonna talk about deck.

1593
01:19:04,079 --> 01:19:05,079
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll see him though.

1594
01:19:05,399 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 1: That'd be cool popular character. That was a fun deck

1595
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:09,760
to play too, so maybe we'll get to talk about

1596
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:10,159
it again.

1597
01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, if you're gonna pick up any Gruel cards

1598
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:18,159
or Celesnia cards, you're gonna go to Fusion Gaming Online

1599
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,840
dot Com. You're gonna use c CEO Nation promo code.

1600
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,319
You're gonna get a discount, sure are and very important.

1601
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,439
That's where I get all the boosterbacks for the CEO experience.

1602
01:19:29,039 --> 01:19:31,159
That's where you got your Bellow.

1603
01:19:31,279 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 1: Probably No, I was in a It was in a

1604
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,920
bag at Vegas. Remember it was in my swag bag.

1605
01:19:37,319 --> 01:19:40,960
Oh yeah, I do remember Vegas, like last year. It

1606
01:19:41,039 --> 01:19:42,960
was just in my swag bag.

1607
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 2: Neat.

1608
01:19:44,199 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, who was the thing I've ever seen in my life?

1609
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:47,159
Speaker 2: Very cool?

1610
01:19:47,279 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 1: And I had Bellow with me. It's like I ripped

1611
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:49,439
that one up there.

1612
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 2: I gotta shut the cart off so you can see

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all the fucking animations I'm putting on this car. If

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you were to get another Bellow, absolutely one dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's it, say five percent off that grid.

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Speaker 2: Yep. And finally big thanks to all the Patreon Sporterspatreon

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dot com, slash ceco podcast, Get into the community, get

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on the discord, get a nickname, be notified first of

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the CEO Sleeve project, and get the fuck overcommandercookout dot com. Donate,

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get yourself a teugh free playmat, and a future discount

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to our sleeves, which are totally super frickin'.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, are they?

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Speaker 2: I think so?

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Speaker 1: I think so too.

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Speaker 2: And all of our friends have tried out the brand

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that we're using and they say, actually I use these now. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My deck is in them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, my sprouts, no, my shrewfuss sproutsier deck is

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in them. There we go, There we go. So uh

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so Leslia next.

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Speaker 1: Week, Seleslia. Next week, We're gonna talk about tokens and

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enchantments and hopefully.

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Speaker 2: A bunch of very pleasant surprises on the.

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Speaker 1: Next exciting episode of Commander Cookout podcast. Our