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goes podcast episode five forty four on Brando. I'm here
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about today, my personal favorite Celestia. Hey no, I'm totally kidding.
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magic the gathering.
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Speaker 2: We a bunch of sweaty dudes. Yeah, I'm not telling
you what his nickname.
Speaker 1: We can all use the same toilet, you know. I
guess we can all use the same toilet anyway. Yeah,
unless you on the seat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no peing on the seat in the nation. That
is a rule. You don't have very many rules, actually
we got okay, Uh, don't be a dick, yeah yeah,
don't be on the seat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's kind of the same thing.
Speaker 2: I guess. Don't be on the seats kind of like
a subclause, yeah, which makes it part of the same rule.
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don't stand up to pee with the seat down. Oh
I love splashing on the rim. Don't google that that happens.
Sometimes it's fine, you know, like everybody has their thing. Yeah,
but just also if you're gonna be in a business
and they have a toilet that they let you use
even though it's not for the public, and you take
a great big dump, flush it.
Speaker 2: Oh this is this is sounding like some personal experience
recently of yours.
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handle of the toilet.
Speaker 2: Just push it down. We all know how that works.
Speaker 1: Nobody's made it this far not knowing how that goddamn works.
Speaker 2: Maybe they were from a country that doesn't have toilets.
They were not. I have stood over a hole in
the ground in Morocco at a restaurant and pooped in it.
I only did have to peek. Good thing, though I
can pop a squad like nobody's business.
Speaker 1: I believe you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not in these pants though, not that you could see.
If you're watching on YouTube, which you should be okay,
well gruel today. Yeah, we are going through magic the
gathering color by color, guild pair by guild pair, and
we are looking at commanders from twenty nineteen as per
EDHREC dash cam as.
Speaker 1: Per twenty nineteen, because that was before the advent of
Universes Beyond, which, as we all know, has taken over
magic ruined it for everybody.
Speaker 2: Everything sucks, Everything sucks, Nothing will ever be the same.
It's runing all of magic. It's hyper powerful. Edh rec
is going to be overrun with however many Universes Beyond commanders,
that's the only thing we're going to be able to play. Obviously,
we're being hyperbolic. Correct, Our friends over at DHREC sent
us the list lists twenty nineteen from just prior to
Universes Beyond, theoretically the most powerful point in magic up
to when Universes Beyond started. Correct, So we take that
snapshot in history and we compare it to the now
current twenty twenty six. You're of our lord at O
Domine whatever we want to call it, common era. Yeah, commanders,
including your Universes Beyond the record that we've seen in
the top ten of now three out of the ten, and.
Speaker 1: We've seen one number one as the universe is beyond
in black, in model black with zephyrofi.
Speaker 2: Yeah, black black, sniff my crack.
Speaker 1: That's right. So it's probably just because of the abs
to a bunch of fanboys, Yeah, get out of here.
Speaker 2: Frickin doesn't even have as many abs as Uncle Brando.
I know he's got like twenty seven abs.
Speaker 1: I have to unroll them like a red carpet.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know how that works.
Speaker 1: Well, some people think I have a gut, but it's
just my abs rolled up and talk into the waistband
of my short.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, So, as we wont to do,
I'm going to start with Brando's interpretation of the guild symbol. Yes,
then that looks like a butthole with an olive on
top on fire.
Speaker 1: Oh damn.
Speaker 2: Producer Gary having way too much taco bell.
Speaker 1: Dang.
Speaker 2: Oh and all I heard is spicy salami and fiery butt.
Speaker 1: Cole, I mean I know all about that. Yeah, subject
matter expert if you will.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh okay, so this is the fiery butthole color,
as if every other Guild symbol wasn't a butthole.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm I'm going to draw that one thing you know,
like you gotta.
Speaker 2: It's the thing you have the most experience in. Okay, Well,
the number ten of then we are looking for date stamps.
We're looking for what other trends did we see in
the thens?
Speaker 1: Oh boy, I don't know, are there ready? Oh man,
I don't know if we've actually identified like a trends
over like the transverse multiple colors, we've seen trends in
individual colors or individual guild pairs. Yeah, or they move
away from La Gazorius I think is our our poster
boy for that, where they move from the Staxi command
or ConTroll the color into a lot more There's still that,
but a lot more variance and a lot more that
kind of thing. Okay, you're doing many different things. I
guess we'll just watch how they change in addition to
seeing how many universes beyond and noting generally, are they
more powerful now or less powerful or about the same? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, so number ten, number ten.
Speaker 1: Tarca, Well, shit, Aturca.
Speaker 2: Did you say it like that?
Speaker 1: Tarka adarca aa aa aa world render?
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a six to four dragon for seven
flying trample. Whenever dragon you control attack, it gains double
strike until end of turn. I wonder what kind of
deck this is Ryan Dragons.
Speaker 1: Probably yeah, I'll bet it makes big Man and then
plays big flying idiots and then slaps the shit out
of you.
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's going to be a trend.
Speaker 1: Maybe it won't be.
Speaker 2: I think of the thens it will be because there
was a lot of girl dragons, wasn't there. I feel
like there was.
Speaker 1: Well, there's lots of girl like ramp and do a
bunch of stuff. Okay, I think that that is the
kind of I say on the show all the time.
I think the Gruel is one of the color pairings
that doesn't necessarily have the same kind of.
Speaker 2: Niche that other ones do.
Speaker 1: For example, Ractos does the thing where every deck does
some variation of do a thing, do one damage.
Speaker 2: Oh, you get called out of that in the CCO
discord as if you don't play nor in the Werry
well do anything do a damage.
Speaker 1: We did twenty decks that said do a thing, do
a damage. You've identified one that I play, Yes, sweet
call that out on these nuts.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I think the grule doesn't necessarily have the same
kind of identity. It's not known as like the Aristocrats color.
It's not the Stax color. You know, it's not the
token color. We're gonna talk about them now.
Speaker 2: I bet you it's gonna be the big creature agro
slash dragon color.
Speaker 1: I'll bet you it does even more than.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's go to number nine atarka Is. We're
playing dragons. There's not much to really land dragons.
Speaker 1: It's very simple what we're doing here.
Speaker 2: Number nine borber rigmos in rage. This is big Bobo
seven to six for eight. Yeah, green, green, red, red
four trample. Whenever Bobo enraged deals combat damage to a player. Ooh,
combat damage. We're attacking. That's another creature. Reveal the top
three cards in your library. Put all land cards revealed
this way into your hand. The rest on the into
the graveyard. Yeah hey fuck yeah, mail myself and gruel
infinite attacks mail myself. Yeah yeah, okay, there's more. Discard
a land card. Bubbo deals three damage to basically anything.
Speaker 1: Lightning bolted creature a player.
Speaker 2: That's pretty fucking good. That's pretty good this card, man,
it costs eight. You're better at like putting this card
into your deck and ramping or cheating it or sneak
attacking it with like a grip full of twenty lands
and just chucking everything. But I've seen this, like if
you Joe had this, remember, yeah, and it was just
like crazy green card draw, crazy green ramp and then endgame.
He's just like, I don't know, play my guy for
fifteen mana he's died four times. Yeah, discard these twenty
lands one at a time to ping you guys all
to death. Yeah, the deck's good, like the deck played. Yeah, man,
I don't know. Now we're not going to see this
guy again because I don't know if an eight commander
eight man of commander stands up anymore. And that feels
freaking bad.
Speaker 1: It does, and especially when like this it does have
some hoops like this one. You gotta do some shit
to make him work, you gotta.
Speaker 2: It's a lands deck kind of, it's an attacky deck.
We're going to see other lands decks. We're going to
for sure, we are. We're going to. Maybe that's a
trend that we're gonna notice, right it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got to like jump through a bunch
of hoops again to do three.
Speaker 2: Do you remember way back in the day, which is
like a Thursday in twenty ten, and somebody would say
something at the LGS, like when a new SAT comes out,
they'd say, well, it would be good in Commander, it'll
be good in edh. Yeah, that's this card man. Yeah,
and you know what it was. Yeah, And it's sad
that that part of Magic's history is kind of gone
by the wayside. Yeah, because it's an eight man of commander,
Like give me this, make a deal one or two
damage when I discard a land and make it cost
three mana Well.
Speaker 1: If they were to print it now would probably cost five.
It would be a five to six and it would
have ward two.
Speaker 2: No, it would be like a seven to four. So
it can still be a three pump jump ward get
five poison counters. Give me a fucking break.
Speaker 1: Get out of my face with that.
Speaker 2: She like that card. We'll talk about that card someday.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll bet you we won't.
Speaker 2: Okay, card number eight.
Speaker 1: Okay, Roshine, I used to play this card man.
Speaker 2: This is another one that's just not good enough anymore.
I hate that is girl. Gonna be the first time
we keep saying that. I think maybe yeah, four four
for four, tap for four, but you can only spend
it on X if that's everything.
Speaker 1: Oops, everything costs X the deck.
Speaker 2: That's the whole card. It's a giant shaman, So like
those don't even matter. Maybe if we're playing Boros, the
giant creature type would matter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're not, So it doesn't unless you're one
of those guys that thinks hybrid mana symbols should work
the way that they don't.
Speaker 2: Yes, but here we are. Dang it, man, I like
this card. I wanted to build it so bad than
you freakinged it. Yeah, down shifted from rare. Also we'll
printed as an uncommon drink that Hey, if that's not
an indicator that you're gonna get kicked out of the
top ten on edah t reck Right, what is.
Speaker 1: I bet you? People don't even play this in the
ninety nine anymore? Well, basically there's people that have never
seen this card in their lives.
Speaker 2: Hey, you're welcome, ye, put it in your X deck,
put it in your HydroD deck. It used to be
the commander of all the hydro.
Speaker 1: Decks, right, absolutely, it used to be. Now there's now
the what is it now, Garrettos or whatever It is
just doubles all the counters for you.
Speaker 2: We talked about just somebody that you want to It's
just some counter thing for or gives you lots of
man in the command's own. That's boring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is boring too. This isn't great.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna treat everything undiscriminately if it's frickin' boring.
Speaker 1: This is another This is boring.
Speaker 2: This is card number seven. Yes, eight seven seven seven,
This is eight seven coming up.
Speaker 1: Grum Gully. No you long time CECO nationalites will remember
the time I wrote a Christmas story called grum Gully
Saves Christmas I Do, in which him and his friends
went and saved Christmas.
Speaker 2: Yes, longtime CECO and National lights will remember Max Crandell
having a grum Gully deck that we put into a
sock and feed him with. Yes, yes, goblin shaman, Hey,
our second shaman in a row. Yeah. Yeah, three three
for grueling one, so three three for three. This guy's
good and limited already, he's an uncommon fantastic Yeah from
O g L drain each other non human creature control
enters the battlefield with a plus one. Neat, I don't
hate that.
Speaker 1: And then you play goblins or some other load of
the ground strategy or things that care about having counters
put on them. Yes, both beat the shitted of people
with that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: I think Max had.
Speaker 2: It given to him as a Christmas present or something
like the CMDR Central Community, or maybe it's the CEO guys.
Oh shit, I don't remember who it was. But somebody
built him a deck and it was like tokens and
you know, you play you know, empty the warrens or
like Cranko's commands you get two guys for to mana
but it's actually.
Speaker 1: To two two's. Yeah, very good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so cool stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I promised zoidj I would say this, and then I forgot.
Our summer deck giveaway on the CEO Discord, one of
the things you can be involved in if you're a
patron and part of the discord. Apparently this was one
of the most best run, best participated in, and most
well executed of the deck giveaways and deck trades that
we've ever done on the Discord.
Speaker 2: Whoa, and then they're gonna meet in real life and
execute each other with their deck.
Speaker 1: Yes, wanted to make sure that we sent a shout
out to all those guys that were involved in that. That
was really cool that our community came together to do
all that stuff and like we're barely involved. We did
the Christmas one this year, and everybody else did the
Summer one and apparently it went really well. Everybody's happy,
everybody had fun. So another thing to be involved with
if you want to support us over a Patreon dot com,
let's ceco podcast.
Speaker 2: Very much so. Gullie deck, I'm not done executing yet.
And if you lose the game, when you play all
together with your Christmas deck exchanges, give them the old
map Crandell treatment until he's executed, lead him to death
with the sock, and just start clubbing. Yeah yeah, but
not like two thousand and nine clubbing where you're dancing
to floor Rider. No, I'm talking about the Max Can
Crandell kind of clubbing, like a baby Seal Crandell club
and cookout podcast CCO.
Speaker 1: Fuck have never made that before.
Speaker 2: Oh Max Grendel, he's not even here anymore, and we
can still what a good dude. Yeah, good at getting clubbed,
grum Gully.
Speaker 1: I like this deck. That's they're they're they're a good one.
I like that one.
Speaker 2: Okay, number six seven six. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't count these, oh grand Warlord rata.
Speaker 2: Really this one surprises me three four elf warrior. Okay,
that that matters. Our second date stamp card after a
tarka four man a grueling two with haste a three
four haste for four. It's prety cool. I'm not bad.
That's pretty cool. I'm drafting this card. I'll tell you
that much. Sure, whenever one or more creatures you control
attack or add that much mana to your manipool, and
a combination of red and or green till't to turn.
You don't lose that mana.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So whenever, like I attack with three guys, I get
three mana, that's right. If I attack with four guys,
four mata, fifteen guys, fifteen mana, hey, I like that? Yeah, okay,
so now we're going.
Speaker 1: Wide instead of tall.
Speaker 2: Well this kind of all of.
Speaker 1: Our guys are manadorcs. Now we're out greening green.
Speaker 2: All of my guys can have mana doorc Yeah. Yes,
Also grum gully and this play nice together, sure, because
you want all your guys yep that are manadorcs to
be able to attack. Yeah, with impunity. That's right, as
if they had plus ones on them.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, she slaps somebody for thirty at fifteen, man
into your manipool comet, stolen this fucking guy.
Speaker 2: And then the other guy quits he can't take the heat.
Which one of those guys is Max Crandell, the second one.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, Yeah, as.
Speaker 2: Long as he's not the quitter, he doesn't. He's not allowed.
Speaker 1: No, he's not a quitter.
Speaker 2: He's not allowed to quit. My favorite Max Crandell play stories.
I stole his commander, fucking killed him with it in
one shot, get him for twenty one. He's like, you're
just gonna steal my guy and hit me for fourteen, right,
I'm like yes, And then he's like I did that.
Speaker 1: Of course I did.
Speaker 2: And he's like, hey, cool, no blocks. I'm like, actually,
I'm gonna give him plus seven until then turned he's like, oh, yep,
you got it. There it goes very cool.
Speaker 1: Let's all die, okay, rata cool, pretty cool attack make
mana play thing.
Speaker 2: It seems kind of straightforward, yeah, is it?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Oh? Is that what people like about it?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, it doesn't say mill anymore. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: Okay, already had that with Bobo. You already had self mail.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, self mal Bobo hit them all.
Speaker 1: Don't google that. I could probably google that one. Yeah,
I'm milling my Bobo.
Speaker 2: Maybe don't google that. Maybe don't google that one that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be pretty I don't do that.
Speaker 2: Ye, okay.
Speaker 1: So this is six six rata. Is this the rata
you like? No? I like Rada air to kelt Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's the first rata. Yeah, okay, this rata good. Two.
Speaker 1: I like this one too.
Speaker 2: Number five Nikkia have the old Ways? Yeah, to see
this guy another date stampee. Yeah, okay, So it's like
Watson knew it was gonna be good. This is a
centaur druid five to five for grueling three. Yeah, so
five to five for five you can't cast non creach. Okay,
we're only creaching while this is on the battlefield. Whenever
you tap Alan for mana add an additional that it produced,
so it's a Mana.
Speaker 1: Doubler and then you play creatures with it.
Speaker 2: Ah, that's kind of like a sure. Yeah, that's that's
a gruel card.
Speaker 1: You're playing big dumb idiots that do thing. This is
one of those cards that actually might have gotten better
over time, because again the efficiency and goodness of creatures
have been getting better. Yes, and you can kind of
do all the shit that things that aren't creatures can do,
but with creatures now.
Speaker 2: So if it was printed now, it would be whenever
you tap a permanent for mana, let's be honest, and
it would cost four yep and have ward sixteen.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen.
Speaker 2: Anything that I say, hmm, that's not a girl creature.
Everything has been gruel so far. We've got plus ones,
we got attacking, we got making mana, we got dragons
and big creatures and dumb idiots.
Speaker 1: We've got milling and discarding land.
Speaker 2: The discarding lands to damage that's very cruel, and it
being a seven to six for eight that's very cruel.
I haven't seen anything that's really made me go.
Speaker 1: Wow, give it time, give it time.
Speaker 2: I want to build that or why yeah, that's just
a big dumb idiot dot deck. I haven't seen anything
that makes me go, man, I remember I wanted to
build that.
Speaker 1: Give it time, give it time. Okay, I don't actually
I don't. I don't actually know if any of the
crazy ones are going to show wild I don't know
if like Gruel Erza is going to be on the list.
I don't know if playing things from outside the game
matters is going to be on the list. But I'll
bet you we run into a Stax commander and a
lands deck and I can't think of anything.
Speaker 2: Predictions, predictions. We had a voltro on too, I'll bet
you get one of those. Okay, predictions number four.
Speaker 1: Ward the raid Mother. There we go, Goblin Sham and
here's a spell slinger deck. Uh yeah, most.
Speaker 2: Of the spells are spells that turn into creature tokens, right,
who knows, Let's give it a read. Anything three to
three for gruel hybrid, gruel hybrid four, so three three
for six ETBs put two to one one green and
red goblins into play sick. Each red and green instant
or sorcery spell you cast has conspire, which is.
Speaker 1: You can tap two creatures that share a color with
the spell to copy the spell.
Speaker 2: To copy the spell. Yes, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: That's not too bad at all.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good again.
Speaker 1: Longtime CEHIO nationalites will remember we have done this commander
on the show.
Speaker 2: Yes, Anthony Bockley has one. He's got altered one done
by me. That's right, there, he goes, and he brought
it to Vegas. Yeah, brought it to Vegas just to
show me.
Speaker 1: I'll bet it slap the share to people.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't play against it. Probably were afraid, No,
he was afraid of me.
Speaker 1: Probably wasn't.
Speaker 2: Probably was, probably wasn't.
Speaker 1: Probably there are several words on that card.
Speaker 2: But this is this is a Girl of spell Slinger deck.
Speaker 1: And yes, lots of the cards make dudes, but lots
of them don't make dudes.
Speaker 2: I love dudes. Maybe they're going to make.
Speaker 1: You draw equal to number of dudes or big leness
of dudes.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, yep.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're gonna Jessica's will twice.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't hate that. Remember you got to pick
the same mode that you picked the first time.
Speaker 1: Well, you have wart, so you'll get both.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe you're gonna commet storm all three of
your opponents halfway to death and then tap two goblins
to put them all the way into death.
Speaker 2: That one, I do like. That one feels very reminiscent
of my Calimax deck, And I know lots of people
run wart in Calimax because it's a a damn or sorry,
a spell doubler, and it taps him, and it taps Calimax.
I don't want to pay six. And that's where that's
where I'm kind of hung up. I'm like, oh, man,
I can do kind of the same thing for less
manna and get access to blue. It's almost like power
Creep exist because modern commanders have been printed or newer
ones have been printed.
Speaker 1: Calamax isn't eve when a universe is beyond card? No?
Speaker 2: Fuck? Can you imagine who it was? Oh?
Speaker 1: Break the Internet?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Which IP would it be?
Speaker 2: Which ip? Land before Time? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Which? Okay? Which? Which Land before Time? Character?
Speaker 2: Would it?
Speaker 1: Because we already had Jurassic Park?
Speaker 2: And he went, oh yeah, yeah. I was gonna say
Land before Which Land before Time? Movie would it be?
I was gonna say sixteen or one of the musicals.
I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what kind of dinosaur he is.
He's a stegosaurus, right? Was there a stegosaurus in Land
before Time? Spike?
Speaker 2: That was his name? Spike?
Speaker 1: No, he was an ancliosaurus?
Speaker 2: Was he? And Ducky was the duck billed one? And
then Petrie was a pterodactyl. Littlefoot was arontosaurus, and Sarah
it was a trisaratos.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Sharp Tooth was a t rex.
Speaker 2: Yes you're scary, Yes so Sharp Teeth. We're sorry if
we have brought up any childhood trauma from that movie. Yeah. Man,
remember cartoons from the eighties and nineties. Ye, fucking traumatizing.
How much you forget Transformers?
Speaker 1: The movie has an apology to her happening right now
September seventeenth. Check your local listings.
Speaker 2: Baby, you never seen the secret in him? Oh, terrifying, terrifying.
When that owl steps on the spider, Missus Brisbee thinks
she's a goner.
Speaker 1: It's not though, No, you know.
Speaker 2: In the book she was Missus Frisbee, but they didn't
want to have copyright bullshit, so they just named her
Missus Brisbee. They're like, fuck it, nobody's gonna know. Yeah,
now you do?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: War number five right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Or four? I don't know, keep going number four. There
were top three of them. Baby, Spellslinger, Deck.
Speaker 2: Spell Slinger, and Gruel almost cracked the top three.
Speaker 1: Who saw that cuts go? Not me?
Speaker 2: Maybe me? I don't know the baby, Oh you've played this?
My first CD deck Okay, this is a six six
for Grueland four ogre Warrior, So six six for six
with vigilance and reach. Yeah, good combination because you can
attack and block. That's right, okay, rurk Thar the unbowed
attacks each combat, so you are attacking and blocking. Yes, okay. Good.
Whenever a player casts a non creature spell, rurk Thart
deals six damage to that player, six six for any
non creature like all of your removal spells. Yeah, like
all your pieces, all.
Speaker 1: Your combo pieces, all your rituals, all your draw bullshit
on you. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine trying to combo by casting over and
over and over like Storm decks?
Speaker 1: I can because I saw somebody try and do it.
Speaker 2: Storm Decks very prevalent back in the day, like twenty
twelve or thirteen when this guy was printed, very prevalent. Now.
Rurkar goes in the nine nine of Nikia Decks because
he's a creature. Oh yeah, and Nikia is like, you
can't cast on creatures and roars like fucking good. Yeah
good's he's pretty good. So a couple couple of the
top ten so far that play nice together. Yeah, which
is cool, but is in. I think it's a leading
indicator that they're going to be pushed out, Yeah, and
relegated to ninety nine's of whoever the new hotness is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure if a rock Thar is still around.
I kind of wish that he was, because I really, really,
really did like this deck.
Speaker 2: I think he's got power to hang nowadays because people
are casting more stuff earlier and more frequent.
Speaker 1: If you could power him out on turn like four
in twenty nineteen, you could power this guy out on
turn three or four very consistently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, rest in peace, Jewel Lotus, rest in peace, mancrypt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can still do it on turn three or four.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure, Solaring, I'll do it on turn
frickin' whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, turn one not turned one?
Speaker 2: Yeah no, wait, how do you do this? Yeah? I
mean you probably could. Yeah, there's probably a way.
Speaker 1: There's probably somebody typing furiously right now.
Speaker 2: Let's go on turn one. Let us know in the comments.
Speaker 1: I like this guy.
Speaker 2: I think he can hang. There's more interaction, there's more
card draw there's more low to the ground stuff that
isn't just manadorcs and creature like. There's people are playing
stuff and doing stuff. We're in the synergy age of commander. Yeah,
and this guy takes a dump all over that. Yeah,
super good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and all we have to do is play dudes,
love dudes, and especially in modern CDH. And I'm not
saying he's a CDH deck, you know, but in the
realm where this guy would usually hang, you got a
bunch of fucking manadorcs. They're gonna you're beating them to
death for sixty six. So either you're removing resources from
your opponent or killing them, and both are good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if they're Max Crandell.
Speaker 1: What are they gonna do? Hit you back?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a six to six reach you around
her exactly.
Speaker 1: This is number th three.
Speaker 2: Hey, I was actually a little bit surprised. I forgot
about him. Yeah we shouldn't he This is the first
one that I would say, kind of want to build that.
There you go, I kind of want to build this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's good. I like work thought, he's a great card.
Speaker 2: I think it's a great one for you to just
sit back and say, uh, yeah, it's fine. Put a
bunch of flash creatures in your deck. Put a bunch
of guys with activated abilities in your deck. So you
have like utility rattlesnake cards and they're like, it's funny,
that funny that rampid growth there that you drew on
turn eight and just needed to just needed to play.
Uh huh take six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been a non zero number of times over
the last couple of weeks. I've been sitting there thinking, Man,
I wish I had my rook Thard deck would be
right now. Yeah, just watching some jerk bag dirtle. It's like, man,
it's gonna be so over.
Speaker 2: This guy just would have blew himself up or not
played anything, then it would have been your turn. Yeah,
and you could attack him for six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I could blow him up. That's even better.
Speaker 2: Yep, this is cool one. I'm happy this guy's on
the on the list too.
Speaker 1: I hope he's still in there. Werk Thar the unbowed.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, he didn't give a shit.
Speaker 1: He didn't give a shit with anybody.
Speaker 2: Number two he bows to no man, Oh prediction number two.
Speaker 1: I don't know wait no, uh uh Xena ghost Xeneghos.
Speaker 2: I'm not Locus of Rage. Give this a read only
from memory though.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Okay, so he's a five to five for green, Green.
Speaker 2: Red, red, red three. Yeah uh.
Speaker 1: Whenever a land comes into play under your control, you
make five to five.
Speaker 2: Yeap.
Speaker 1: Whenever an elemental you control eats shit, you three something correct.
That's it.
Speaker 2: Well, those aren't the exact words printed on the card,
but that's everything that he does. He's a elemental and
he has a date stamp.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have had this deck together since twenty fifteen,
the twenty seventh of September twenty fifteen. I actually bought
the dates amped one from our LGS and I went
home and I built the deck and it has been
together since then.
Speaker 2: It's got only foils. Yes, very good, Yes, very good.
Have you ever, besides the times that you've played me,
had every single land in your deck on the battlefield?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes I have.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I knew that this one was going to be
on there. Oh yeah, I knew it.
Speaker 1: I would be shocked if he wasn't still on.
Speaker 2: This is a lands deck, this is a Tokens deck.
It's an et B deck et et right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's everything.
Speaker 2: It's a pseudo burn deck, it's a big man a deck.
It's it's everything. It has the words landfall, five to
five and three damage and it's a five to five.
Speaker 1: On the car fucking twice in reference to two different things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is a cool one. I've seen Omnath
decks like yours mostly that are like play as many
lands as possible to get as many five fives. I've
seen ones with the token doublers, which I think you do, yep.
I've seen the ones, of course that are just like
bouncing lands or playing lands from graveyards.
Speaker 1: Which mine also does yep.
Speaker 2: And then three damage to everything when whenever your elementals die,
and not just your five to five elementals, fucking any elementals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can make one ones or two twos. There's
that one that's a little like choed mushroom that has
a clitorist for a face.
Speaker 2: WHOA, Yeah, don't google that. The dirtiest magic the gather.
Look it up.
Speaker 1: The it's a two two elemental from somewhere. I think
it's only been on Only one card makes it, and
it's got like it's a chold, like straight up penis
chod with a fucking clittaorus for a face. Oh okay,
and that somehow got by all of everybody. It it's
what is it?
Speaker 2: Uma?
Speaker 1: Is that as g TA and the art on that card, like,
how did these get past R and D? How did
that happen? This is a mistake. There's some guy going
total lead you junk on a card.
Speaker 2: No, there was that one secret layer that they had
to recall to. Oh yeah, with the tiny little wiener,
the tiny little.
Speaker 1: Penis on it.
Speaker 2: I did buy that secret layer for the record.
Speaker 1: It's a snake one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, tiny snake. You're right.
Speaker 1: This card's cool. I love this card, versatile, cool art.
We'll stay together as long as I play Magic.
Speaker 2: Long history of Omnaths. This is number two in the
Omnath gets an extra color kind of saga. Yeah, this
is the second one I think he picked. And we
saw Omnath one in monal green too, we sure did.
I wonder if we did three color arc of evolutions,
we'd see three color Omnaths. I fucking bet we would.
Speaker 1: You think I'll.
Speaker 2: Look it up when we're done. This is number two?
What's number one of the then? Then xen ghosts enhos Yeah, whenever,
devotion to X, devotion to seven, devotion to green and
red seven. We all understood what you said each time
you said that indestructible six five for five, and at
the beginning of combat on your turn, another target creature
control gets plus X plus oh, where X is the creature's.
Speaker 1: Power, and then gets Tramplin haste sure or haste just taste,
just taste, but either way they're gonna have trample. Yeah,
you're gonna attack somebody with a fucking twelve twelve atolle
the turn after you plays naghost.
Speaker 2: No you're gonna No, you're not.
Speaker 1: You're gonna play the Atalia and then they're gonna kill
it and you know sad.
Speaker 2: No, you're gonna sneak attack and emer cool and hit
somebody for twenty two.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I guess you could do that too. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna sneak attack and emmer cool and that
cost a one whole manna. So you're gonna go sneak attack,
emmer cool, play souls might double his power, double his
power again take forty four. Ye, that's what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: So now we're doing go tall. So we've gone wide. Yes,
we've gone out of the bin. We've played lands and
we're going in a Stax commander sort of girl kind
of does lots of things. I'm telling you guys.
Speaker 2: If you frame it like that, like the statistics can
say whatever you want them to say, you just have
to frame it in a certain way. Well I'm framing
it this way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think that's great. I think that it's I think the
counter to that is we've seen a lot of shit
that just cares about having really big dudes. Yeah. The
commanders are just really big dudes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, although they'll do all of them do something, though
I don't think many of them. I don't think we've
seen one yet that just relies on I'm going to
play my big dude and kill you with it, like
Galta this kind of does that.
Speaker 2: But just play your big dude and kill somebody.
Speaker 1: This is another dude. It's not this dude. Ah right,
you have to play something else. Xenaghos doesn't win with commanders.
Speaker 2: What's her name, Nikia is just she just says you
have to play dudes, stars like play dudes or take
damage right like it's and Atarca was number ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is just dragons.
Speaker 2: Just play big dragon dudes, yeah, which is by nature
big dudes. It just happened to say dragon somewhere on
the card. So Rourkar still my favorite of the thens
in top ten in girl.
Speaker 1: How many of these have I played so far?
Speaker 2: Three? Well, I was I was going to do a
recap that I abandoned that, but now I now I
have we have recapt again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to do it, damn it.
Speaker 2: Okay a tark at ten. I didn't play that one,
all right, barberigmos at nine.
Speaker 1: Joel played that one, So that's okay.
Speaker 2: We got experience with it firsthand. Eight is Rouchine.
Speaker 1: I played that one.
Speaker 2: Seven grum Gully.
Speaker 1: I built that one for the show.
Speaker 2: Okay, six grand war Lorderata.
Speaker 1: I never built that one.
Speaker 2: Five nick Yah four wart Anthony.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to count that as the nation.
Speaker 2: Three is Rourke.
Speaker 1: I played that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah on an ath Zenagos one. So I played four
of the the four of the top.
Speaker 1: Ten of them, one of them is still together.
Speaker 2: I wonder if we're going to see more universes beyond
than that number, more than four. I don't know, man,
I don't know. It would be a world record, it
would be the record.
Speaker 1: Let's see about now.
Speaker 2: So let's see about the nows. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, so I flipped the colors, see ye, and then
I moved the letters to a different spot. Why can't
I make ends like the ends always looks.
Speaker 2: Like I would argue that ends are not the only
thing you can't.
Speaker 1: Make that looks just like a Gruel symbol.
Speaker 2: It looks like somebody from Gruel rot.
Speaker 1: Well, I play a lot of girls.
Speaker 2: Somebody drew it with their with a club.
Speaker 3: Well, and it was you, and then you used the
club to beat match kind out with Yes, okay, a
club with a lead pipe in it.
Speaker 1: This is zeneg is number ten, number ten from one
to ten, more like ten agos.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: Actually, I kind of like that.
Speaker 2: I don't hate it drops ten places, It goes fucking loser.
Speaker 1: So everything that we said, oh still say about.
Speaker 2: Are we gonna Are we gonna see that big of
a change up? Mind you, We've seen this before. We've
seen guys go from two or three down to like
nine or ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this might be the biggest drop I've
We're done like it.
Speaker 2: It is the maximum number of places you can drop
and still stay on the list, which is the first
time we've seen that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, but I mean then I goes still played card.
I think that he's more of a ninety nine. I'm
actually surprised he's still in the top ten, to be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because but also people who had him in decks,
they talk about this on edh rec cast sometimes is
is you might make a deck like I'll make a
deck in architect dot com, and then if I take
the deck apart physically, it stays together in my architect
profile right right, just as a log or because I'm
too lazy to delete it sure or whatever. So A
we might be running into that. Okay, b It's still
everything that we said is still true. I can still
nic attack double power then double power again, my lullamug
and still one shot people. Yeah, like turnover turn Yeah,
it's still fricking good. It's still pretty good. Okay, well
that's number ten, number nine, number nine, Mince and Boo
Timeless Heroes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was actually surprised to see this guy.
Speaker 2: Is this the one?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think that this deck's actually good.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Okay, well, I mean I've seen it played.
Thomas played this if if we all remember Thomas.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, let me let me try and
read all of the words on this card. The textbox
needs to be stretched. Yeah, okay, plains Walker Grueling two
when it enters, the battlefield enters, and at the beginning
of your upkeep, you may create a Boo legendary one
to one hamster Creatchu Choken with trample in haste.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's got three loyalty. You go plus one, but
three plus ones on a target creature and untap it
gains Tramplin Haste counters. You put creature with trample with
trample and haste. Okay, yeah, that's weird. I have to
have guys in my deck that have trample and haste.
Speaker 1: He also makes one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what if I fucking what if he dies
the next time?
Speaker 1: You make another?
Speaker 2: One search sacrifice a creature like my hamster guy. Okay,
this is minus two. Sacrifice my hamster guy. When you
do mince min minx minsk and Boo deals x damage
to any target where X is that creature's power. If
the sacrifice creature was a hamster, draw x cards, so.
Speaker 1: It burns and draws cards and I hit you for two,
and I draw too.
Speaker 2: Every turn to being of your upkeep, I get a
new one, so I just draw to and hit you
for two every turn. Sure that seems really good. That's
drawing three cards per turn. Yeah, and if you have
a full mit, you can hit somebody for fucking four
and then your next turn you.
Speaker 1: Can draw four.
Speaker 2: I think I just keep doing it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna run out of loyalty eventually.
Speaker 2: Fuck, yeah, damn it, you're right, yeah man, Yeah, okay,
so it's it's draw one point five extra cards per turn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty good. I don't know. I like this guy.
Speaker 2: I draw one extra card per turn. Every second turn
you draw two. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's still good.
Speaker 1: It's still pretty good. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah, and
you're drawing more than one extra card if you have
to put the counter back on, So you're drawing four
cards every.
Speaker 2: What if I just proliferate and I can minus two
every turn, then pretty good?
Speaker 1: Then you're laughing, especially if you have more hamsters.
Speaker 2: What if I proliferate but every time I put a
counter on something I have, like a doubling season, that'd
be pretty good too. Yeah, and I would get two hamsters.
Speaker 1: Oh, but they're legendary.
Speaker 2: They're legendary. Damn as if that fucking matters anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, surely just keep both.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just make a copy of one and then
I'll just copy to one that isn't legendary because there's
like one hundred cards that do that. Okay, so this
is our first new one at nine. That's cool.
Speaker 1: Of note, we should probably mention this, Yes, we know
this is from Dungeons and Dragons. Dungeons and Dragons we
have not counted as a universe is beyond because like
it's so closely related that it really didn't. Yeah, we
just don't count.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna just gonna bring that important to note. Okay, Well,
number eight is man another Dungeons and Drags and rag
and Draga rated Draga Raga. What did I say?
Speaker 1: Raga Draga rag Gorgot's boss. Let's just say the rest
of the He's got four to four for four human bore.
Each creature you control with mana with a manna ability,
so it's manna ability matters the deck. So all your
manadorcs get plus two plus two. Whenever a creature you
control with a manability attacks you untap it, and whenever
you cast a spell if at least seven or more
mana was spent to cast that untapped target creature, it's
gets it gets plus seven plus seven until i have turned.
Speaker 2: Why not all your lanamar elves are three threes? Yes,
you attack with them? Yes, then they untapped? Yes, okay,
whenever you cast a spell if at least seven man,
I was spent to cast it. So I don't know,
play a big thing, play a big dumb idiot. Yeah,
play a bull board and raged.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: Uh, untapped target creature gets plus seven and trample until
end of turn.
Speaker 1: Yeah? When am I supposed to do that? Whenever you want?
Speaker 2: Maybe during combat?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, I can't play a big dumb
idiot at combat unless it has flash.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess you'd have to.
Speaker 2: I don't know. This card confuses me. How can we
be a human and a bore? How can it be
a four to four boar for four a four to
four bore for four? Yeah? I said that right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where board is? How is the answer to your question?
Speaker 2: Yes? Uh? And the way just the old English word
for man will just clear that up. And human and
man we're gonna call those the same thing.
Speaker 1: And the bottom paragraph of text, I don't know why
it exists. I'm not gonna lie. I don't know why
that even says that there, But that's.
Speaker 2: What I mean. Yeah, I don't know why they put
that if it's telling me to tap my guys to attack,
and then they're they're gonna untap. Yeah, I'm going to
play stuff post combat. I like cards like that that
tell newer players the optimal order of operations under normal circumstances,
and this does that. And then the last paragraph is like,
I don't know, cast a spell after and fucking the
thing that you played untapped. This is fucking weird. I
don't know. Maybe maybe on the eed h W rec
pager is just a bunch of flashers. I don't know.
I guess you could play big instance and stuff. Ex.
Speaker 1: Spell instance Comet storm comes to mind again.
Speaker 2: At least seven mano was spent to cast it. It
just needs to be a spell. Yeah, it needs to
be untapped target creature. Yeah, well fuck I could do
that during my opponent's turn, like after I attack and
then all my guys on tap. Yeah, okay, I don't
hate this card anymore. Yeah. Also, of note, u f
you Aiden.
Speaker 1: Plays this guy.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is four to four for bo Yeah it's
his boor Guy deck, Yes it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then he finds the ways to give them
all man abilities so that they get big and then
on tap.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's his pig boy deck. Yeah, yes, yep. Just
finished reading the Chronicles of Predained series of novels Tarren Wanderer.
He's a pig boy in number two. Sure he is, Yes,
pig boy. He'd probably like it. I might.
Speaker 1: I don't like anything that's not let's not beat around
the bush. I hate everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well this is number seven eight? Nope, eight, Gary, producer, Gary,
he knows what's up. He's looking at the list right now.
Seven seven. Are we good to go to seven? Gary? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Plus seven? Omna, there he is.
Speaker 2: Of course he is.
Speaker 1: All the same stuff still applies. Ramp has only gotten
better over the years.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Actually, people over at edhreck dot com they do very much.
What do you call it? When you advocate for the
four drop spells that get you to land in this land,
it also gives you ten power worth of dude, I
don't hate that. I didn't say it the first time
we talked about imn Now, the reason this deck is
so good is because you only have to do part
of the game. It was like the early game where
you're setting up Omnath is so good because the whole
deck is just setting up the whole time.
Speaker 2: But setting up is the payoff exactly once your commanders
and players.
Speaker 1: Setting up is also making you win the games. You
just never take your foot off the gas, You never
have to pivot, you don't have to do anything. You
just have to keep putting fucking land into play and
you'll win. And if somebody tries to stop you from winning,
you kill them and then start winning again. I've said
it a million times. The power curve of this deck
looks like a fucking upside down apple where it's on
the stama is on the bottom, and the top end
is this huge fucking thing.
Speaker 2: Yep, it's awesome.
Speaker 1: I love on math.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yep, such a good deck. I was gonna
make a joke, but i'll say it for might not
even be appropriate for CEO.
Speaker 1: Oh sho, it's a dirty joke.
Speaker 2: Man number six, number.
Speaker 1: Six rum sand man mana dorks matter, A man of
rocks matter, Man of rocks matter.
Speaker 2: This time, not man of dorks mattering like four four
four for four.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: Roxan is a four to three cat druid for five correct. Okay,
so worse in every way possible. Okay, let's see what
else ro San enters the battlefield or attacks. Okay, we've
seen those words a few times today. MHM girl, create
a tapped colorless artifact named meteorite when it enters a
battlefield that deals two damage to any target and also
add one man of any color.
Speaker 1: When you tap it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it makes a meteorite. Yeah yeah, it's like
the card. Like the card meteorite, it's a five drop.
It was like from M twenty something. Sure ETBs thump
somebody or thwomp somebody if you will, and then is
a manadork.
Speaker 1: Meteorite should do more than two, or it shouldn't cost five, like.
Speaker 2: I'll bet you.
Speaker 1: And I'm not an expert on this, but there are
people who have been struck by lightning multiple times. Sure,
and being struck by lightning as we all know from
a magic players, there's three damage. If you get hit
by a giant rock from fucking space. You only do
that once.
Speaker 2: Yes, I have a theory about this. This is actually funny,
but we got to finish your reading rocks and paragraph.
Whenever you tap an artifact token token for mana add
an additional one so your meteorites, and or any artifact
tokens that are copies of man of rocks like treasures,
treasures or if you made a copy of like your
fucking I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's all ring cube replicating rings.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, hey that's a good one. Yeah, yeah, this
is cool. I like how it's sure enters a battlefield
or attacks. I got to do a bunch of like
gruelly shit to do the thing that I want to do.
You have to do what your deck's doing to do
the thing that your deck wants.
Speaker 1: I don't think that this.
Speaker 2: Deck wants to do the thing that girl wants to do.
Speaker 1: Doak for fucking four attack.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't think this is an attacking deck. This
is an artifact token deck. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: For the record, played this deck?
Speaker 2: Yep, you did?
Speaker 1: Ye?
Speaker 2: Did it? Like to attack? I suppose I was playing
enters or attacks like she has to do it? Yeah yeah, okay,
just blinker, I could could. So here's the thing, lightning
bolt versus meteorite, and I would love to start this
debate online with other magic creators, aficionados, people in the nation,
et cetera. Okay, generally, okay, some dude, just like walking
down the street like a human token. Sure, he's like
a one one Yeah, Okay, lightning bolt deals three damage. Yeah,
getting struck by lightning should kill a human. Yeah, but
sometimes it doesn't. What's the card that makes it so randomly?
I just don't die if I get struck by lightning, Like,
what is that card that makes it? Like? Is it?
Is it heroic intervention? No, it's not giant growth, giant growth,
but I'm not getting bigger? Is it just like Holy Day?
Is it? Well? And Holy Day doesn't do it because
that's only combat damage, avoid fate, avoid fate. Okay, that's
a good one. I was gonna say fog. Fog doesn't
do it. Lightning don't care about fog, right.
Speaker 1: Actually, lightning would probably hurt more in the fog because
there's so much moisturing. Yeah, maybe it might do five
damage in the fog.
Speaker 2: Also, one hundred percent, you're right, A fucking rock hurling
itself towards the center of the Earth, because gravity is
a real force in the universe faster than the speed
of fucking sound is gonna kill me. Yeah, one hundred
percent of the time it strikes anywhere on my body
that's it.
Speaker 1: There are people walking around right now. If been struck
by lightning and survived, there's a car that gets them
out of that. Nobody gets away from being struck with
a metior Nobody, nobody, nobody has.
Speaker 2: Ever been struck by a metea or and survived.
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about space dust. I'm talking an
actual meteor Yeah, Like, if something the size of a
small car flying out of space hits you, it's gonna
kill you, Yes, and whoever standing next to you, and
maybe that guy over there too.
Speaker 2: There was a meteorite like in twenty fourteen or whatever
that flew over Russia and when it hit the atmosphere,
it exploded. The exploding rock in the fucking sky killed people.
It set off car alarms in the entire city with
blue windows out of fucking like. People were like, oh,
look at that thing. It exploded smash.
Speaker 1: Russia.
Speaker 2: Oh. Producer producer Gary fucking.
Speaker 1: Had the exclusive coming through clutch.
Speaker 2: Yes, so he can confirm meteorites falling out of the sky.
Speaker 1: Meteor stronger than lightning, yes, yep, yes, rocksand pretty fun.
Speaker 2: Card stronger than rocks lightning.
Speaker 1: I mean, not stronger than ball lightning, but still pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, no, yeah that for them ball Lightning.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm surprised that she's in the top top ten.
Speaker 2: To be honest, I to this might be well, she's
from Cowboy hat a recency bias as they call it
on EDA track. I guess that was a long tangent.
I forgot we're even recording. Yeah, what numbers is five? Six, six,
one on to five? Baby, here we go, wolver we
fuck off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is our first universe is beyond it is
and it sucks.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a too two mutant berserker hero all
hero hero relevant creature type. Now with the Marvel stuff
that's coming out now, it's.
Speaker 1: Gonna be It's gonna be relevant for the next three
months and then you're never gonna see it again until
the next fucking Marvel set.
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll do a Maybe they'll do a DC universe,
and then we'll have like Batman, he'll be an anti hero.
We'll have Superman, Supergirl, super Boy, Crypto, Crypto, that's the dog. Yeah, okay,
two two for three, he's got double all damage. Wolverine
would deal cool. Cool, So he's like a four to
two when he attacks at the beginning of each end step,
if Wolverine dealt damage to another creature, this turn put
a plus one counter on Wolverine.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, I don't know why he does that, but sure.
Speaker 2: Also regenerate for green one. Who we know why he
does that.
Speaker 1: Because he wolver regenerated.
Speaker 2: Yes, how I love that they took this modern card
with modern design principles and philosophies and they put regenerate
on it. Yeah, I do have to tip my hat.
They didn't. They didn't skirt around it saying pay two
and tap it. He gains indestructible until and a turn regenerate.
Those people who know would know yep, that that is like, oh,
he can't die, he stays alive. But no, they just
went full bore regenerate. So now anybody who knows anything
about fucking Wolverine is gonna get it like that, right,
and they're gonna say, oh, this guy is the only
guy that has regenerated because he regenerates. And then now culturally,
us old guys get to say, actually, regenerate was like
a card from Alpha, like the first set ever. I
got to hold the original art for Alpha or for Regenerating. Yeah,
it was very cool Quentin Hoover. Very cool.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like that guy. Yeah, it's our first
Voltron commander too.
Speaker 2: Oh kind of is.
Speaker 1: Clearly that's what this guy is gonna do, right, You're
gonna beef him up somehow and then kill wolver beef.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Beeferine, Wolverine, Beeferene, Wolverine beast or beef there is.
Speaker 1: And he's want like five foot four, he's like a
little this is a little gone and he's from Canada. Yeah,
somebody look it up. Somebody look at how big Wolverine is.
While we go on to the next card.
Speaker 2: Okay, well this is card five. It's our first universe beyond.
Speaker 1: So we're a one keb kebu Tabi Prince, k Tabi Prince.
Speaker 2: This is a jumpstart card Monkey Noble, so put it in
your Noble deck. And this is a throwback to Magic's
history again with uktabi orangutang and uktabi other things from
a round mirage block era in like ninety six or
ninety seven. That's right, five foot three, five foot three
shut outs, all the short kings out there, like.
Speaker 4: The random Yeah, not as Harry though, Monkey Noble two
two for three tap each create each player creates a colorless.
Speaker 2: Token named banana. Two sacrifice add red or green. You
gain two life. That's what banana does. Neat goes good
in Roxanne rocks hend Yeah, whenever an artifact or an
opponent controls is put into the grave heard from the battlefield,
but a plus one counter on each creature you control.
That's an ape or a monkey.
Speaker 1: It could be voltron, could be a ridiculous creature type
matters deck. Yes, apes or monkeys.
Speaker 2: Whenever keyboard attacks, defending player sacrifices and artifact. Yeah, this
feels like a universe is beyond card, doesn't it. This
feels like they're this feels like they're like, oh, what
are you gonna do for, like make a Donkey Kong card.
It's just making some bananas and some life gain and
monkey stuff. This feels like a universe is beyond card
though it isn't.
Speaker 1: And then Nintendo was like, yeah, we got a can that.
Speaker 2: We got a can that pay us more money.
Speaker 1: Exactly, it's gonna cost you a lot more money. Guys, Well,
you know what, fuck you, We'll just make another monkey. Also,
for the record, local guy does play this deck.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, I played against this deck in Las Vegas too.
Oh is it?
Speaker 1: It's pretty good? Actually, they got they got here. I
think it's a very stout deck like it's very good
to guess it's giving you life and manna. But he
can very quickly take that life and manna away, Yeah,
by killing you, so you have no manna.
Speaker 2: I would not be surprised to see this Reskin as
Donkey Kong one day when we do get the inevitable
Mario Nintendo Secret Layer crossover. We got the PlayStation one,
We're gonna get the Mario one. Even producer Gary knows, Yeah,
which I'm fine with.
Speaker 1: That's fine.
Speaker 2: If you want to do the universes beyond, give us
the reskins, give us the thing that obviously draws people in,
like SpongeBob did for my son ye or Jaws did
for you. That's different because that was that was a
unique card.
Speaker 1: But Jaws is so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is number five.
Speaker 1: You know who's better at doing kebo stuff than this is?
This guy's number five, fucking Jaws.
Speaker 2: Number four or to the top three three, this guy's
almost it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well some of them are. I Actually, I'm
pretty sure I know two of the guys are gonna
be on there, and one of them makes me really sad.
Speaker 2: This guy's almost him. He's almost in the top three.
I know, guys's almost a bronze medal winner. Actually Olympics.
Speaker 1: I actually think I know the top three. Fuck at
the top of my head, I think I actually know who.
Speaker 2: They Arekay, this is number three coming up? Baby, let's
go not a wolf?
Speaker 1: Ah, this is the Remember was an episode maybe seven
or eight of Commander Cookout podcast.
Speaker 2: We talked about the worst creature type of all time,
were wolf.
Speaker 1: They'll wear wolf and the fucking werewolf commander is number three.
Speaker 2: This is what's his real name, though I don't know,
Trev Trevidar.
Speaker 1: Dire Overlord. Like this is so bad that Watson tried
to retcon make them good and added in a mechanic
to the game that literally nobody fucking likes, and they
still suck, and he's still number.
Speaker 2: Three and looking he's still sad.
Speaker 1: Grol making shitty shitty game mechanics good and making people
want to play them.
Speaker 2: No, Gruel making shitty shitty game mechanics and people want
to play them. Yeah, yeah, you you added making them good?
Oh yeah, yeah, it's not doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. You're right, they're not going.
Speaker 2: Let's introduce day and night into the game, and then
people have to track that and it makes my creatures
actively worse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking god damn it. So what he says, he's
a three three for three, two of which involved gruel.
Whenever a wolf or werewolf you control those combat damage
to player draw card at the beginning of your upkeep.
If you control three or more wolves and or wear wolves,
it becomes night. Then transform any number of human were
wolves you control. Fuck, we're not going to explain how
day and night work.
Speaker 2: I wasn't even I don't know what this card does.
I wasn't even listening. Flip it over. This is King
of Wolves. Oh now he is a wolf.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's got his his suit on. This is
a cool secret. I kind of wish I bought it
because the cards are funny.
Speaker 2: There's a ul the wolves behind him. How he can
be he can't even be the King of wolves if
he's not even the king of fucking a bunch of
guys that are like him.
Speaker 1: He's such the King of wolves that bears respect him.
Speaker 2: It's got fucking Daredevil and some giant beaver thing, yeah
behind him.
Speaker 1: He flips into a four four whenever a wolf for
werewolf you control those combat damage to player drug cards.
He's a card dry engine in your shitty, shitty shitty deck.
Then he has cruel x target wolf for whereof you
control gets plus x plus on against trample into end
of turn.
Speaker 2: So he has what is that the wolf run?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kessig Wolf Run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kessig Wolf Run. I'm just gonna play Kessig Wolf
Run and not use a fucking commander slot in my
deck because I got about forty slots for lands in
some decks. I got one slot for my commander. Yeah.
This guy's not it, that's right, So this is not him.
Speaker 1: This guy being so high is insane and as somebody
that did try and play were wolves and I even
added blue to mind, is terrible and I hate it.
I hate everything about it.
Speaker 2: Fucking webs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's move on.
Speaker 2: You know what's a werewolf web? What's what is that?
Speaker 1: Aware web?
Speaker 2: Aware?
Speaker 1: A we wolf? A we wolf like we wolf wolf?
Speaker 2: This is three.
Speaker 1: That's number three.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Oh and kate myself, this next one is gonna be good.
You're gonna like this.
Speaker 2: Gird my loins.
Speaker 1: Gird Yeah, girdam, girdam with a girdle or a beer
can or.
Speaker 2: Something, I don't know. A tally primal conqueror. This is
new Tallie.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what this ship is.
Speaker 2: This is a clone deck. This is also a CEDH Dynastic.
Speaker 1: It's a CDH clone deck.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a seven to seven Elder Dinosaur,
so we can play our elder Dinosaur, Highlander DH seven
seven or Red Red five. Yeah, trample. When a tally
Primal conquer enters the battlefield, each player exiles cards from
the top of their library until they exile a non
land card. You may cast any number of spells from
among the on land cards exiled this way without paying
their manecost correct. Also Fyrexian green here it is and
nine and you transform a talley only as a sorcery correct.
So he's a steal your thing and play it for
free for seven seven seven trampler for nine. Yes that
we flip right into this is number two.
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, the other side doesn't even matter.
Speaker 2: An eleven eleven with infect essentially trample and indestructible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't even matter, Like who gives a shit
about that?
Speaker 2: And note, wow, it's a one pump chump at that point,
I guess when you transform him, you're transforming, you're not
exiling him then returning him to the battlefield. So when
you transform him that trample and indestructible is probably because
you're doing it on the following turn after you play him,
he doesn't leave and come back, so he's he can attack.
Speaker 1: What you're actually doing is you ramp into a Tully. Yes,
you steal your opponent's ship, and then you use heat
shimmer and that thing lots to flip coins to make
more guys and everything that says, put a token of
copy copy of target creature into play, do whatever the
jerk off fucking shit is, yes, and then you keep
stealing your opponent stuff until you win. That's what this
deck does.
Speaker 2: You clone a.
Speaker 1: Tlley over and over and over and over and over
again until they fucking die.
Speaker 2: It's not a clone deck. It's a mill deck.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a cloning combo mill deck.
Speaker 2: Your dual castor mage ah, that other one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all that other ship. Yeah, there's a bunch of them.
I can't think of them all right now, but a
bunch of them, Like game like, they went up in
value quite a bit, because this is a really popular deck.
Speaker 2: Okay, I would play the ship out of this deck.
Speaker 1: This is a good one.
Speaker 2: Can I play a non deterministic combo deck that people
are going to fucking hate? And and really the game
is just can I survive long enough to combo? Is
that the game that that your good friend Ryan wants
to play?
Speaker 1: Fuck?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right. If I'm gonna do something like mail or
like nondeterministic combos like I did in Zada, We've talked
about that when we did Red.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to play the political game and the
social game and the stay alive long enough game so
I can do the thing that I want to do
in magic, which is this bullshit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you run out of opponents to steal
stuff from, there's only one guy left, just flip them
over and fucking kill him.
Speaker 2: Yeah you do? Yeah, Yeah, dude, that is what you do. Yep.
Speaker 1: Like this guy.
Speaker 2: Hell, I wished this guy was number one.
Speaker 1: From what I've been told. I remember, I forget I
was talking to I was talking to Dana one time
and Toby actually about Rourick Thar in the CDH meta
and how Stax kind of doesn't exist in CDH at
this exact moment in time recording.
Speaker 2: Okay, and don't add us.
Speaker 1: Both of them did say that that space got occupied
by a toolly because the shell is basically the same,
but the payoff is a little different. Because rurik Thar
is passive and waiting for your opponents to do stuff, yes,
and Atali is active for as long as you're acting
upon his ability, you're doing things to progress your own
board state.
Speaker 2: Yes. And in progressing your board state by doing your
commander thing with a toolley, you're taking away cards that
your opponents have. Yeah. And I've got a funny story
about this actually in CEDH a couple times, and it's
been with absolutely randoms in Vegas when I'm either hammered
or hungover or both and I sit down and it's
CDH and I'm plan BRUVAC and they're like, huh really,
And I'll sit down, I'll PLoP a Tashi's hideous laughter
down and you you it's not mill it's exile until
you hit twenty cmc worth of shit off of your deck. Yeah,
And people are like, what but in CDH, when everything
costs one or two or zero or as a land,
Like sometimes you'll get twenty five or thirty cards from
each of your opponents, and bouncing atalley is can kind
of maybe be the same. But my point is is
if I hit like twenty or thirty of your cards,
I might get both sides of your win. Con Like,
if I can push that through because people don't kind
of put as much weight on it, And maybe I
need to use one counterspell because some guy you know,
topped back the card of his library that he wanted
to draw or hide, et cetera. Sure got to push
through one counterspell and then mill twenty or thirty from everybody,
and they're like, oh, you got my oracle and my consultation. Fuck,
I guess I'm gonna try and win by attacking you
with my three to three commander oops. And it's like, no,
you're not. I got a one four or whatever. Right. Yeah.
So yeah, the non deterministic shit that where you can
just take a few times turn overturn, that's gonna be
way plenty enough value, especially because the higher power you go,
the average power level of thing you steal is so
much higher.
Speaker 1: Right, and you get three of them, you get three
of them? Yeah, Unctually one's not enough for Gruel, not
for a talie. You want to play a guessing game, Ryn, No,
too bad or plan anyway. So next week we're gonna
talk about Celestia. What are the two things.
Speaker 2: That this is?
Speaker 1: Card two? Yeah, we're talking about next we're talking about
card one. But I'm gonna make you guess what a
fuck it is. Watch this, Okay, watch Cilestia. Okay, there's
two things. What are the two things?
Speaker 2: Tokens and plus one counters? No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Enchantress?
Speaker 2: Oh sure, Yeah?
Speaker 1: What does Gruel do better than Celestnia besides everything? Tokens, Enchantress, Enchantress,
show it to him, Ryan, show him. I know this
is I know he's number one. I'm so confident. I'm
so confident that Bellow Heart of Brambles, the Ultimate Enchantresus Commander,
is number fucking one. The most fairest, most balanced magic
of the gathering card in history, but the most powerful
Level one deck you will ever see played.
Speaker 2: By me, But not the most handsomest.
Speaker 1: No, he is not the handsomest, still reserved for he's
also not really that versatile. You can play all sorts
of fun cards in there, but they all have to
very rigid structure to which.
Speaker 2: They here, Yes, not very flexible, that's right. Yes. Ah.
How does it feel to play the number one commander
in ed h rec Given that I feel he is
number one because of your boy, I feel very good?
You guys are you?
Speaker 1: Guys are all welcome trendsetter.
Speaker 2: So he's a three to three for three gruel and
one raccoon bard sure, A lot, a lot like you,
A lot like you. During your turn, each non equipment
artifact and non aura enchantment you control with man of
value four or greater is a four to four elemental
creature in addition to each other types, and has indestructible
and haste And whenever this creature deals combat damage to a.
Speaker 1: Player draw card?
Speaker 2: What the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1: Why does that have so all that shit? Why does
it say so many things? Elemental creature four to four
is enough? Indestructible is even better?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Fuck haste?
Speaker 2: Why not? Why wouldn't it have haste? You know what?
Rule just doesn't have enough love. Let's make it draw
cards too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have certainly talked about this card on many
an occasion. Yes, you think that the Great Henge is
fair and balanced? Right now. Wait until it's a fucking
five to five that draws itself a card when it
comes into play and then draws you another one where
it hits some motherfucker for five. Now we're talking fair
and balance. Yes, God, I love Bellow so much. This
is so cool. I know that Pep the d D
plays that. I saw a bunch of them in Vegas.
I play it. I was, I was a day one
adopter of Bello. I love this deck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about Bellow as soon as it came out,
because I think you keyed on pretty early that it
does this and this and this, and it still does
the things that all of those cards do, like they
don't lose all their abilities. Yeah, they still do all
their things.
Speaker 1: You can play so much, and this is important for
him being a raccoon trash. But the deck is full
of garbage and you beat people to death with it.
Speaker 2: Oh my goy. Indestructible.
Speaker 1: Why not indestructible? That is the weirdest part.
Speaker 2: Now only during your turn, so it shuts off when
it ain't your turn anymore. But that's true. Yeah, but uh,
there's no way you're gonna have answers and all the cards.
Speaker 1: You're gonna draw.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: There's no way all the four drop Man of Rocks
that are five to five with trample haste and a fidian. Right,
it's indestructible haste and a fidian.
Speaker 2: Are gonna be able to replay Bellow. If somebody else
it never mind. If you have any enchantments that cost
four or five that allow you to take extra combat phases.
If you had that, it would be like taking extra
turns and never giving them away for shame, for shame.
Speaker 1: What I love Bello. This is so cool. He deserves
the top spot.
Speaker 2: Man like he's yeah, it's a cool one.
Speaker 1: Not even Universes Beyond for the record, Oh yeah, we
only had one. So let's do it.
Speaker 2: Let's do a little recap here. Let's do a recap
Bellow number one. Of course, some questionable choices people have
made throughout the history of everything, but we've got Xenaghost,
God of Rebels. That's that's the power doubler.
Speaker 1: The furthest drop we've seen also in any commander on
the list.
Speaker 2: Minks in Boo, almost Universes Beyond, close enough, c edh
and beloved character in the D and D sphere, and
Plainswalker Commander. Yes, right, so that's got a lot of
things going for it. We've got boor.
Speaker 1: Ragged Dragon like sure, man of Guys Matter.
Speaker 2: Man of Guys Matter, Sure, No, not universe on D
and D, D and.
Speaker 1: D, D and D beyond D and d's nuts. Yep,
that was a good one.
Speaker 2: Omnath Locus of Rage. Another guy. I would say this, Evergreen, he'll.
Speaker 1: Be around until the until they print somebody better Evergreen
and Red. Nicely done. Roxanne still surprising. I'm surprised she's there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a weird one.
Speaker 1: That's a strange, strange one.
Speaker 2: But I've played against it and I know it's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I played it was fun, but I can't I don't.
Speaker 2: Know can argue with the people. Wolverine best there is,
best there ever was.
Speaker 1: Guy wouldn't go that far.
Speaker 2: No, does have regenerate shout out to whoever at wats
He had to jerk off Mark girls Water to get
that one to a carget. He's five ft three.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite.
Speaker 2: Yes, so is Mark Rosewater. Uh Kibukabi Prince Donkey Kong
baby is literally the guy who the Toby rang A
rang A Tang was pregnant with back in the nineties.
Now he's now his mom's and is his mom in
the background. Yeah, she's old, he's a grown up. Yeah,
she's a fucking grandma probably probably is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's slinging them bananas everywhere given bananas has been
given to life you. But she has two kids too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, kid for his life. That's that's literally, that's
fucking not a wolf. Bullshit. I'm skipping past him the
other where we'll thinking. You can get fucked a taliat too. Yeah,
that's really good. Yep, And bellow your your boy, the.
Speaker 1: Lord of gorbage, Bellow Bart of Brambles. Everybody build your ones.
It's always fun to say it's a one, and they
can't talk you out of it being a one because
it is, because it's full of shit.
Speaker 2: Because it's a theme deck. All the shitty enchantments that
you have propping up table so they don't wobble, yep, yep.
But when they're four to fours with indestructible haste that
draw you a card, they're pretty good. There we go. Okay,
so what's what's next on the Arc of Evolution agenda?
What are we doing next week?
Speaker 1: We are going to talk about. I'm gonna get flack
for this, and I know that, but I am actually
excited to talk about Celestia next week because I think
that a lot of people, myself included, feel like it's
all gonna be a bunch of token decks then an
Enchantress deck on top.
Speaker 2: Could be, or some variation of that. Plus one counters
it does a lot of It's gonna be a lot
of value, lots of fucking piddly soldiery thing.
Speaker 1: How many decks does Doubling season go in on this list?
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a trend we watch for you, right,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna have a fearful prediction that
I think it's gonna surprise us.
Speaker 1: I think that we're gonna see some some neat shit.
Speaker 2: We were to be pleasantly surprised with Azorious. Yep. I
had a lot of fun with Demir. And I don't
even play a lot of Demir. I just like what
it does in theory. I just like Demir, even though
I don't play a lot of it. Right, we saw
some huh and oh yeah moments going backwards in time
with like all the mono colors, so we've had quite
a diversity of experience, which I am fully expecting to
get again with Celestnia because I don't play very much
Celestia and you play none.
Speaker 1: I play none. I've have I ever. Oh no, that
uh Vanilla Commander in ninety nine Lands.
Speaker 2: That was a Celesnia deck Jasmine Boreal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, the only Celesnia deck.
Speaker 2: I think my experience with Celesnia is beating Max Crandell
when he plays it, or me playing like band or
Or or Naya.
Speaker 1: Drisdo word I had a drisdo Worden deck. He was
He was Celestia, but he was of Ultron deck, so
literally the opposite of everything we're gonna talk about deck.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll see him though.
Speaker 1: That'd be cool popular character. That was a fun deck
to play too, so maybe we'll get to talk about
it again.
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Speaker 1: Probably No, I was in a It was in a
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Oh yeah, I do remember Vegas, like last year. It
was just in my swag bag.
Speaker 2: Neat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who was the thing I've ever seen in my life?
Speaker 2: Very cool?
Speaker 1: And I had Bellow with me. It's like I ripped
that one up there.
Speaker 2: I gotta shut the cart off so you can see
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