Speaker 1: Made a saint John.
Speaker 2: A face sunny, sum I haddasion.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: So Nat, let's have everybody, what's welcome boers when we.
Speaker 1: Always always started out calling everyone cunts and then some
people gotta find ruined it for the rest of us.
That's right. I was. I was at speech and de bait.
The mom that I was with was not Tamra, as
I told you on Tuesday. So Tamra super cool, hilarious,
you know, we got it like that. The other mom
that I was with is also very nice, but she's like,
I mean a little more goodie goodie, even though her
daughter swears around us all the time. But John texted
me how's it going, cunts? And uh my phone was
like sitting right between us, so it popped up, you know.
And I always have that moment where I'm like, is
somebody gonna think I'm like a victim of like us?
Speaker 2: Is she going to be like, oh my god? So
I had to draw attention. I was like, it's Johnny,
that's just we love it.
Speaker 1: She was like, oh, that's funny. We love we love
I love it.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's our baby talk. In terms of endearment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people that don't get it. They're never gonna get it.
You're never gonna get it now. Yeah, I feel like
in the old days when I used to talk about
the fact that, I mean, we are definitely a swearing household.
But I used to tell you that Sadie and Xander
would get a little bit when they were young, a
little bit like right, yeah, you know. But but then
they started doing it worse than we did when they
were older, and I was always like, listen, we just don't.
We never speak like this outside of the house. Outside
of the house, of course, and my kids have never
They're very respectful, right kids, But man, is our language crazy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because study Natalia were such goodie two
shoes their whole like, they would never say they called
the S word, the stupid is the S word, you know.
That's when they were little. Now, yeah, they they Sonny
won't cuss in front of me, but Natalia does. Yeah,
she'll't give a fuck. Yeah yeah, but Sonny keeps it respectful.
And I don't mind that My dad had. He was
cussing and swearing left and right when I was a kid,
and I wasn't never told like I wasn't allowed to
say certain swear words, so ye're used to it.
Speaker 1: It's funny because like, my kids are really really careful,
as I think a lot of teenagers are well progressive
teenagers of like things that might hurt somebody's feelings or
just being very like. My kids refer to other kids
as they even and sometimes I'm like, they're like talking
about somebody and they'll say they they they, and I'll go, oh,
are they non binary? And you know, Xandra will be
like no, I'm like and he's like, we just call
everybody they because it's just easier, so they don't even
think about that anymore. But like, like I've told you that,
sometimes I'm like, oh, well, is that person on the
spectrum And they'll be like, mom, not everybody is on
the spectrum, and I'm like, okay, I'm just trying to
be like like be fair, and they're like sometimes people
are just assholes and not that people on the spectrum
are all assholes. Like, but then I find myself going like, no,
I know that. I was just asking if we should
have special consideration because like there are a lot of
kids on the spectrum at the school, you know, And
then the kids will be.
Speaker 2: Like, mom, we are very right. No, yeah, kid is
way more like yeah.
Speaker 1: But then Xanders but then they get it too because like, okay,
and maybe this is a bit a whatever. When Xander
did his online tournament, in one of his rounds, uh,
there was a girl who was in like a full
not just a wheelchair but like the I forgot what
you call it, but where you.
Speaker 2: She has to move it with just her like fingers.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I mean Xander had to go after that person.
And then and then Xander goes after the round was over,
you know, we both watched the whole thing, and he goes, welp,
and I go, well, I go the very best you
can do.
Speaker 2: A second, we both just started cracking up, and he goes, yeah,
he goes.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: Are you gonna what are you gonna It's like he
has a sense of humor about stuff. It's not like, yeah,
that's good, that's good because.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna give the girl in the adoptable
chair or whatever? Second place? Right? Right?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, no, you got it's good to have a
sense of humor. Yeah. So I've was watching the Karen
Reid trial.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: Because there are cameras in the courtroom for that.
Speaker 1: Okay, has there been they were just doing jury.
Speaker 2: Selection or now they got in there into like all
the testimony and cross exam, cross examination already?
Speaker 1: Uh huh of.
Speaker 2: That Jennifer McKay. They cross examined her, of the one
that googled how long to die in the snow? Okay, Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I got excited for one second. Yeah, peak behind the curtain.
The reason I was like is because I was listen
listening to court Junkie, and I listened to the full
her full testimony Jennifer McCabe, Right, do you listen from
the first trial. But the reason I startled myself is
because I was like, I listened to it too, But
then I remembered, No, that was from the twenty twenty
four trial.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, I honestly, I just watched her cross examination.
I didn't really care too much about the direct you know,
but she was caught lying to the Feds. And the
thing is is in court, he can't say the FBI
came your house. I guess FBI was brought in to
investigate if the police were corrupt or whatever. And I
don't think that they I could be wrong. I don't
know too much about the FED stuff, but I know
that they showed up at her house. They were in
plain clothing, and she tried to get out of talking
to them. She lied and said she was Jennifer McKay,
she thought, and then she said she thought they were
somebody else. And then they were like, no, you know,
we but the jurors don't. They never said it was
the FBI or the FEDS. They just said another law
enforcement agency came to visit you at your house. But
from watching the news, it's the FBI. But they're not
allowed to say the FBI in court. I guess why.
I don't know. So she kind of and she I
guess she got caught lying to them. Yeah, trying to
get out of and then she said, I need like
fifteen minutes before I talked to you. And in that
fifteen minutes, she called like her other cohorts to talk
to them. She called I think John O'Keefe's mom, and
she called the other woman that was that she was
trying to get the story straight with. There's another friend anyway,
I don't know. It's it's pretty interesting. You think she's innocent,
I mean, you think she's good guilty.
Speaker 1: I do, yeah, and everybody is mad at me about it.
All of our listeners are like, how could you possibly
have heard what you've heard so far? How could anybody think? Well,
obviously some people do think that she's guilty, because she
would have been right found not guilty. They heard the
same evidence at the last trial, right, All that evidence
came out and enough people thought that she was guilty.
Some people thought she wasn't guilty, or some people thought
there wasn't enough to convict her. But I think that
there could. They're not mutually exclusive.
Speaker 2: She could have done it, and nobody.
Speaker 1: Is talking about the fact. Everybody's making her out to
be some kind of like, oh my god, this poor woman.
She was absolutely hammered. She doesn't remember what she did.
She doesn't remember it.
Speaker 2: She says she did. She said she wasn't blackout. She
couldn't remember. Yeah, she couldn't remember. Yes, she took out,
but at the time she was like, I could have
hit him, Yeah, I don't know, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: She didn't know how her light got broken, right.
Speaker 2: Well, that they say that the defense is saying her
light was broken when she was backing out of the driveway.
Speaker 1: That's what there's that's the defense.
Speaker 2: That's that's video. No, there's video of her.
Speaker 1: No, that video does not show that light getting broken.
It shows her gently tapping a car as it shows out.
Speaker 2: But it's her back. It's the it's the light.
Speaker 1: It doesn't show the light breaking. It doesn't, but it doesn't.
I don't think that that. I don't believe that that
her light shattered there. I think it happened at the
scene of the crime. Yeah, there, But then how come they.
Speaker 2: Didn't find any of those of the of the tail
light at this at the crime until after.
Speaker 1: It was snowing like crazy outside and all the snow
covered it, and then they came out with a blower.
They did.
Speaker 2: They came out with a blower, and they still didn't
find it. They did know they had They had the
SERT team or whatever out there shoulder to shoulder looking
for it. They had a blower, and they didn't. They
found broken glass, but they didn't find the tail light.
Then some timeline of Michael Proctor, who's supposed to be
the one that coordinated all of this. You see him
like in the video at her when the car is
pulled into the port. He's in the back corner of
where her tail light was broken.
Speaker 1: All the defense, right, yes, that's right, and then a
giant conspiracy theory that could be but.
Speaker 2: They showed, but they But then there's there's the proof
of they didn't. Then they then they find sixty or
thirty six pieces of broken tail light after he's already
been at that scene. They didn't find it when that first.
Speaker 1: Some first I don't know. I think they found broken
glass and they're saying, oh, then they found more. Yeah,
because his glass was broken. That was the drink that
he was holding in his hand when he got out
of her car. Right, how did happen if if the
glass broke, I mean, how did it happen? Something happened
then to him when he got out of her car. Otherwise,
if you say, okay, so he went in the house,
they killed him in the house. Then they planted his
body outside. Okay, Well, how did the glass break? Was
he just carrying a glass the whole time he was
in the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know.
But then there's like like his his injuries with with
the pig. DNA found on his injuries on his arm,
And then why did they get rid of the German shepherd.
Why did they get rid of all?
Speaker 1: Why was there no dog DNA on him right there?
Speaker 2: Because they could have there's there's sometimes where DNA sometimes
doesn't get transferred or whatever. But why is there pig?
But why is there pig DNA found on him on
his arm?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Could be a lot of reasons. They said.
Maybe he was eating bacon.
Speaker 2: That's why, I don't know. And then they get rid
of the dog, and then they sell the house, and
then they they get rid of their phones. They all
get rid of their phones, just suspect, and then they're
like butt dialing each other and they're saying it's a
butt dial, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll grant you that. There are some some suspicious
things that they did, but I think that that could
have been another issue that they were covering up. I think.
I'm not saying they weren't corrupt. I just don't think
they killed him.
Speaker 2: So what do you think.
Speaker 1: I don't think there was motive to kill him. They've
never come up with motive.
Speaker 2: Well, there's the guy, there's the guy that was flirting
with her.
Speaker 1: But that's not a motive. I have you heard that
guy's testimony. I've listened to a lot of his testimony.
That guy is like a dufis.
Speaker 2: He is a dufus.
Speaker 1: He's not like he was never I think he thought like,
oh maybe I have a chance with this girl. She
was diabolical the way she was so angry.
Speaker 2: Then she ghosted him. Then she ghosted that guy like
a couple of days. And then why is that guy
inviting John to his disafter party when they don't when
they're not really.
Speaker 1: They were all together a police officer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: What do you think, calein Id?
Speaker 3: Come on, I literally just googled Karen Reid. Oh okay, okay,
murder boyfriend.
Speaker 1: To see what we were talking about. Listen, this woman
is like a sociopath. She is nuts.
Speaker 2: I will say that, like the fact that she's yelling
and screaming at people like he's dead and then hanging
up and stuff like that, and like and then saying,
I like, I hit him with my car. I think
I hit him with my car. And then why is
she pointing out my tail light's broken. My tail light's broken.
Speaker 1: Do you see?
Speaker 2: But if she but if she hit him and it
was second degree murder, why would she point out that
her tail light and why like, why would she That
would be really stupid.
Speaker 1: I think because she was trying to plant at first
that it was an accident, that like, oh my god,
did I hit him? I think her whole thing was
like did I Was it an accident? Did I accidentally?
Speaker 3: Not?
Speaker 1: Okay, she wanted to hit him, like I think she
purposely backed I think she purposely did. How well, how
do you account for the fact that her car that
she was backing up at like twenty four miles per hour.
Speaker 2: Well, see, there's the defense has their theory about there's
like there, they have their experts on there that's saying
like that's they're saying. They're saying, let him know about
the car. But there was there was experts saying that
his injuries look don't look like injuries of being hit
by a pedestrian hit by a car. And his injuries
do look like dog bite like animal bites. They have
experts saying them on his arm.
Speaker 1: But what about his head?
Speaker 2: Well then yes, head's the other thing he's got.
Speaker 1: Died of a head injury. He died of a head.
Speaker 2: Injury, but he also had two black eyes. He had
one big black eye with a cut above his eye.
Speaker 1: But the prosecution will say that when you get a
head injury, it's very common to get black eyes from
the way. That's true, Bloodpool, that's true. Doesn't mean that
he got punched in both eyes, right, I mean I
think that there. I think that it is it possible
that she didn't do it, Yes, but I think a
lot of people are overlooking a lot of evidence that
she did do it in favor of more conspiracy theory.
That's that's just my opinion. Obviously. Yeah, I could be
totally wrong, but I do happen to know this is
all hearsay a friend of a friend who was literally
the one following well, I can't really say this, but
somebody who has been very, very close to her absolutely
believes that she did it.
Speaker 2: Oh you know somebody.
Speaker 1: I know somebody who knows somebody who was in her around,
who has been around her a lot, and is like,
she is a sociopath and probably guilty. And what about
all of the crazy messages like she was so angry.
I don't know. I've just seen too many date lines
where women did hit their husbands with the car or
kill them in some way and you can just they're so.
Speaker 2: Angry, they're angry. Well that, But then also you can
look at it as if she did kill him, why
would she leave all those fifty two crazy why would
she call them fifty two times and leave all those messages.
Speaker 1: Because to kind of cover it up, she's for.
Speaker 2: An alibi, But like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Why would she say why would everything be like, yeah,
we were going to the party together and I just
like dropped him off there and then be telling everybody
we got in a huge fight. How do you count
for that? What she told everybody we had a fight, right,
But then she told other people like no, we were fine,
Like we just we were going to go to this
party together. He was just going to go in and
see if everything was fun and cool. And then so
then suddenly she got mad at him, Like let's just
say what she's One story would be that she was like, yeah,
everything was great, we were having a great night.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 1: Prior to this, they'd had a huge fight. She'd also
remember gone crazy mad at the at the girl that
he was talking to at the hotel, who was the
friend of his sister who died, like the best friend
of his sister who died. Karen came out from like
the elevator and was like, who the fuck are you? Like, yeah, crazy, right,
and then he was like we this can't go on,
like this is right, this is insane. And then so
then after that they were going to like take time apart.
Remember the dad was like, Karen, please do not go
try to see him, and she was like, I'm going.
That was the same night. That night they went they
were together at this bar. I personally, in my mind,
he's been like trying to get out of the relationship,
like trying to break it up. It's toxic. She's like, no,
we're not breaking up. Comes to see him. Then she
claims everything's good.
Speaker 2: But you see it in the videos. Everything's good. You
see when she walks into the first Okay, nice.
Speaker 1: So so keeping that in mind, her claim is that
she went and dropped him off. Everything was. He goes
into the house, then she waits ten minutes according to her,
and then is like, fuck this guy, he's not coming out,
and she goes back to the house. Right, okay, But
then why is she saying we had a huge fight.
Why is she calling all her friends and saying we
had a huge fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Why did her story change from everything was good. I
just dropped. We were just going to this party together,
but I just wanted him to see it.
Speaker 2: I thought she said that they were fighting, that she
already she talked about how they were fighting. They had
a fight in the morning that day, about the nieces,
about I guess she was something over the nieces and
nephews of how.
Speaker 1: She was indulging them right right right, But she claims
they were in they got in a huge fight.
Speaker 2: They got in a huge fight. Yeah, in the car.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Good question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If they got in a huge fight in the car.
Then she drops him off at the house. So there
are a lot of things could be true. It could
be that they got in a huge fight and she
was like, get the fuck out of the car, I'm
not going into this party. I'm leaving, and then he
was like fuck you with his drink from the bar
because they were both like some like alcoholics. He gets out,
he's holding his drink, I'm going to go in the house,
and she's like fuck you, and then is like hit
some o her car. I mean, she was really drunk.
She was like three times the legal limit.
Speaker 2: The next day, right right, yeah, So can we believe
any of.
Speaker 1: These people's stories?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not trying to like shout you down. Now,
it's our audience is going to be like, oh my god,
Stephanie is shouting Lynette down. That's a reason with her.
I don't see how they've said that. They're like, oh,
if was being so pushy about it. I'm just saying like, no,
these are.
Speaker 2: The things that I don't know because I don't I haven't,
like I don't know all the details and stuff. But
from what I've seen it does it is like suspicious. Yeah,
she could have hit him with the car for sure.
But but but then again, like I don't know, those
injuries don't seem to me, Like and why didn't the
medical examiners say this is why, this is how the
guy died?
Speaker 1: Because I don't think anybody can tell. Why are there
so many theories? Then too, like there's no proof the
dog killed him, that's the.
Speaker 2: Dot, But then but just how does it Why is
there pig DNA? I don't get like the how he
would have big DNA on his arm like that, you know,
in those.
Speaker 1: I don't know either, But like, did a pig kill him?
Speaker 2: No, but a dog eating eating pig treats with pig ears.
Speaker 1: There's tons of.
Speaker 2: Treats that have big stuff in it.
Speaker 1: But then if if the dog's DNA, a pig DNA
is on his arm, why wouldn't dog DNA be on there?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a maybe because he was out
in the snow. I don't know. I wonder. I don't
know what the defense would say about it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's watch the trial, man, Yeah, I'll
watch the trial. I want to watch the trial.
Speaker 2: It's really long, Like you gotta like eat.
Speaker 1: You know, I got time. I got all kinds of time. Listen.
Do you want to be a fake jury member or not?
I know, you got to commit at least a little
bit of time if we're gonna, like if I'm going
to talk out of my ass and like say she's guilty,
like I should do like a little bit of research. Yeah,
me too. Yeah, besides what, well, besides listening to see
podcasts and watching that documentary.
Speaker 2: Right, and I watched I watched like a lot of
the defense stuff, like for because it's more interesting to me.
You know like the cross examination, right, I got it,
see sparks fly.
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Speaker 1: I haven't. I watched the first season.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I found the whole thing to be so depressing and
close to real life. Yeah, I know, so I haven't been.
You been watching it? Yeah? It's really season. Are we on?
Speaker 2: I think it's like sixth sixth season?
Speaker 1: Jesus, what else can happen?
Speaker 2: I know it keeps going. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: Did you ever read the book? No? Me, neither. I
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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you should.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, I'm gonna be stressed out though. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It can be depressing. It's scary, but it's good. The
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Speaker 1: I started watching? Well, I've been watching Your Friends and Neighbors, Yes,
which is falling in quality. Yeah, right, it was the
last episode. Are you watching it, Kaitlin?
Speaker 3: No, I was going to, and then I heard you
talking about it last week and you're like, oh, it's
getting you know, for an app for an Apple show
to be losing quality like a couple episodes in is
unlike Apple, and I'm like I know it, and it's
like you're not. I don't not like him, but he
he doesn't really do it for me.
Speaker 2: Well I mean, so are you caught up? Because yeah,
so it still doesn't get better. It's still falling.
Speaker 1: The last couple of episodes were really like John and
I were excited to watch it, and you know, we
were like waiting all day like Okay, we're gonna wait,
we got we got your friends or neighbors tonight, even
though the week before had been like subpar, but we
had all the hope that they were gonna it was
gonna make a comeback. There was a lot of us
just sort of looking at each other like really, yeah,
I don't know, Like, yeah, it's just gotten I can see. Yeah.
The writing is like it was so it was.
Speaker 2: So strong, Yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 1: It had it was so voicy. The first few episodes
had such a unique yes, different, it felt different, and
now it's just like where did it all go? Yeah?
I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah that sucks. Not happy, No, what else is there on?
Speaker 1: The studio had a couple The last couple episodes have
been better. Really do you like, have you?
Speaker 2: I liked the studio but I'm not caught up, but
I liked it. I think it's funny.
Speaker 1: Okay, the last couple of episodes were funny. I liked. Yeah,
So then I started watching I think because I was
watching Max. Uh huh. I still want to call it HBO.
Speaker 2: I know, HBO Max.
Speaker 1: Why do we have to call it Max? I know. No,
it's not as good a title. It's not as good
a name of a network as HBO. Right, he does.
Speaker 3: But they screwed that up themselves because if you remember,
like two years ago, they had like three different streaming services.
They had like HBO Max, and they had like HBO
something or other, and it was very confusing to find
out which was which, and so eventually they just had
to consolidated all into one.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So was there there was HBO Regular.
Speaker 3: There's HBO Max, and there was there was like a
third one too, yeah, like Plus or something like that,
and you never knew which one to.
Speaker 2: Go to, right, And then there was Showtime that is
gone too, I guess right.
Speaker 3: I think Showtime folded into one of the other ones,
like Paramount Paramount.
Speaker 2: It's part of Paramount now mm hmm.
Speaker 1: So you have to use the Paramount app to access
if you want to.
Speaker 2: See showtime shows.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like everybody should just put everything on Netflix.
Better for me, you know, right, Why can't they all
just be on Netflix?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Netflix could sell like some space, some
you know, real estate space to like Max. So if
you go on Netflix, it could be like Max shows, right,
you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: They kind of do that.
Speaker 3: I mean that's air like older HBO shows on Netflix.
You know, like you'll find like shows like the Sopranos
or you know, Breaking Bad, which is an AMC show
on Netflix, Like you'll you'll find older shows like that,
But the newer shows I think they keep on on there.
Speaker 2: Stephanie remember Mind of a Married Man?
Speaker 1: Yes, my binder, yeah years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just remember that. That show is an
old HBO show, and I remember it would it was on,
they would put mind it was minded the Marrior Mind
of a married Man, and then Curb. When Curb first
came out, Uh, it was that like hour of HBO
Sunday night, ten o'clock must see TV. That was before
the Sopranos.
Speaker 1: Do you remember Men of a Certain Age That was
the name of Ray Romano Ray Romano show. It was
a Ray Romano and a couple other actors.
Speaker 2: On what network.
Speaker 1: I it was before not a MC but like, I
can't remember, Caitlin, will you look up Mind of the
Not Mind of the Merry Man, Men of a Certain Max?
Is it Max.
Speaker 3: Max?
Speaker 1: It was so good.
Speaker 3: I loved that ran on T T.
Speaker 1: TN T Andre Brower. Andre Brower was one of the
leads Ray Romano who was so good. It was a
great show. And I think it only was like two seasons,
and it was before the Treat Yourself. Go back and
find old episodes of that. Yeah. No, it was after
Mind of the Married Man, I think, but it was
much better.
Speaker 2: But it was before Ray's Romano's show. Everybody loves Ray.
It was after yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, he's a really
good actor.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's good.
Speaker 2: There's something recent that I saw that he was in,
but I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I remember I into him at a bagel place after
Men of a Certain Age got canceled, and I was like,
I hate to be that person. I was like, but
I'm a really big fan. And I said of Men
of a Certain Age and he was so and he
was like, really I was like, yes, it's like the
best show ever. You're so good in it. And he
was like, that is so nice of you to say
thank you. And I was like, I'm so mad that
it didn't get like picked up. And he was like,
I know, it's it's very depressing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll need to check it out. What else, there's stuff,
other stuff on. You're not watching The Good American Family
on Hulu with Natalia Grace?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Story is it good?
Speaker 1: No, it's so bad. Acting?
Speaker 2: Is it's just bad? I don't know, it's it's it's
if you saw the documentary, then you saw it, like
you don't need to really watch it. But I've been watching, you.
Speaker 1: Would say, I said to John, because John goes, what
are you doing about Good American Family? And I said,
I just feel like I've had an ass full of
an Italian Grace? Like what else am I going to
find out?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Yes, like I watched all the seasons of a Curious
Case of Italian Grace.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, but with her with her?
Speaker 1: Right? Is there more to know? No?
Speaker 2: Not really, it's just so good. It's so bad. It's
good to watch. It's fun to watch. Yeah, just because
the I mean the acting, and stuff. I don't know,
there's that.
Speaker 1: I don't know that.
Speaker 2: I think that's pretty much it for I like watching documentaries.
I haven't really seen like a good documentary come out
on Netflix recently unless I'm missing something.
Speaker 1: So there was The Adolescence, which was a great crazy
show that was acted, but that was on Netflix. Did
you see that?
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 1: It's like a three part little oh limited series about
this boy, this kid who kills a girl, a young girl,
and then it's about him getting arrested. It opens with
him getting arrested for it.
Speaker 2: Oh it's on Netflix. Yeah, well I didn't see that.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of that Kilin?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard of it.
Speaker 2: It's a true story. No, oh it's not, but it's
like based on I think it's based Oh oh yeah
yeah yeah yeah kind of.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's really good. It's very watch. Yeah, it's it's
just yes British.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, I like that. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh you watched that a while ago. Yeah yeah,
but I was going to say something came across like
my Facebook or whatever. That was like o new show
on Netflix, new psychological thriller show. And I can picture
the people. But so the other day, I was like
on Netflix going through it, going, oh, I want to show.
I want to find this show, and I didn't. It's
not there, so I guess it's maybe it's coming.
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like you'll scroll it and be like Netflix is coming,
you know, you think it's on now, and then you
go look for it and it's like, no, it's not
out till May whatever.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, but it didn't even I don't think there
was a spot for like coming up. So I scrolling
and scrolling and scrolling, and then John goes, what are
you doing? And I was like, I know I saw
this show. And then I start questioning my sanity and
going did I not? Did I hit him?
Speaker 2: Did I hit him?
Speaker 1: I was really drunk. Maybe I was drunk when I
saw this ad. I feel like I did see it though, right?
Did I hit him? Would I hit him?
Speaker 2: Google New Psychological Thrillers on Netflix? Oh you you made
a Google? Yeah, two am for psychological thrillers? So you yeah,
you probably did see it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, Well, let's let's update
each other on what's going on with our kids. Yeah,
where are they? What are they doing? What's going on?
I My kids are a loventh grade? So there are
AP tests coming up, So you're listening to this On
Friday today, Nator's taking the a Push test APUs History
and Sadie opted out of even taking the test, which, like,
you know, what go on with your bad self? I
was like, you don't have to? Yeah, you know what
if you don't want to be like really stressed out
by she had to take the class in school. As
some of you guys might remember me complaining that there
was no option to not take the AP test, and
I was like, but you know what, there is an
option on taking the test. You don't want to take
the test. Don't take the test? Who can? Good for her?
Speaker 2: So they're going to be done with school soon, right
like the next.
Speaker 1: Month in June. In June.
Speaker 2: Yeah, really, and then then they're going to be seniors.
Speaker 1: I know, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2: That is crazy? And did they talk about colleges or anything?
Speaker 1: I mean a little bit. They're trying to think about
their future. It was an you know, I was going
to take Xander and Sadie on a college tour over
spring break, but then that got kind of busy. You know.
What we're really thinking about right now is like summer
summer jobs. Like neither Sadie or Xander have had a
job yet. Elbie was working junior year after winter, like
January of her junior year, she had a job. And
Xander really wants to get hired at Trader Joe's. It
is so competitive to get a job there. Yeah, I hear.
Speaker 2: It's a great place to work though, for like your
first job.
Speaker 1: Yes, And he's really trying and it's so hard because
so he filled out an application online and then he
went by there. He was we have a friend who
works there who was like to have him come by,
bring his resume and like introduce himself, right. So he
came by and the manager was not there. So somebody
was like, but I can talk to you, but it
wasn't the manager. Basically I had seen the guy that's
he's our neighbor who works there, and he said, well,
this is the manager and the manager was like, yeah,
this job is hard to get. It's timing and personality really,
and he was. The manager was like, have him come
by and ask for me, and so, like I said,
he went by, asked for him. He wasn't there. Then
he went by the next day not there. So then
he was like, I can't be going by like every day.
And he's like desperate, So he's going to go by
again today.
Speaker 2: Can he find out what this guy's schedule is? Well,
because the guy was supposed to be there, so he
was going on the time that the guy was there.
But they were like, oh, he just left or he's
on his lunch.
Speaker 1: Break or whatever. And he has a short window because
when he gets home from school. The guy works days,
so he leaves at five. Xander's getting there like at
a quarter to five. The guy's right right, cause it's
freaking trader jokes trader Yeah, just take off r own.
Speaker 2: You know the best thing about we're going to Trader
joe I think Nicholas, my nephew worked at trade is
that they find all the cool newest like, hey, have
you tried their you know, spinach dip you know or
whatever they're frozen whatever, Like they get every you find
out all the cool interesting foods that Trader Joe's has
to offer.
Speaker 1: Plus I can get like a discount.
Speaker 2: Oh that that's true.
Speaker 1: You know what it is, like fifteen twenty percent off.
Speaker 2: That's nice.
Speaker 1: I think it's twenty percent.
Speaker 2: That would be that's great.
Speaker 1: I would save me money. Yes, yeah, so that's happening.
And Sadie wants a job too, but like it's like
harder to get a job. I know. So, are your
kids gonna come back for the summer.
Speaker 2: They're coming home. They're coming home for the summer. They're
they we've already re upped their their rooms, their dorms
for next year. And then they're both going to get
a jobs this summer. And Natalia she wants to get
like an I don't know, another she wants to try
and get an internship. But uh, but it wouldn't be paid,
and she needs to get a job or she gets paid.
So we were talking about that.
Speaker 1: And she back to the restaurant.
Speaker 2: She could, yeah, but she wants to do something more interesting.
I don't know what. But she's both gonna be looking
for a job when they get back. And then Sunny
is he is actually in Korea right now as we speak.
Speaker 1: Loves an Asian country.
Speaker 2: He really does well. So his best friend that he
grew up with, Hendrake, when he says he sounds like
a French restaurant at Hendriqu's the lu yes, so hard
to get a table. So Hendrake has been in his
mom grew like she lived in Korea for many years.
And so he is, you know, studying abroad. So he's
going school in Korea this until this semester is up,
which is at the end of May or at the
beginning of June. His semester's up. So he wanted talk
Sunny into going.
Speaker 1: This was his second semester of freshman year that he
was already studying abroad.
Speaker 2: No, No, he's going to he's doing classes online. He's
he didn't This kid could have gone to any university
he wanted to, but instead he's going to the local school,
community school and doing classes online while traveling abroad.
Speaker 1: And so he's just abroad. He's not in school, but
he is.
Speaker 2: He's taking classes online, but he's not in school abroad, but.
Speaker 1: He's taking American classes. Yes in mine, yes, but from Korea.
Speaker 2: But from Korea.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So this kid, his family's the one that travels everywhere. Oh,
they're very big travelers. So he's been living there by
himself for about I don't know anythink like a month,
and then it's coming to an end, and he wanted
Sonny to come and Sonny never asks for anything. And
his birthday, he asked for an early birthday present and
asked if he could take so he he coordinated it
with his teachers to take the next two weeks, not
even two weeks, ten days about yeah, classes online. So
so yeah, so he's so he can travel and go
and visit his friend. So he flew last week at
eight he left. We left our house at eight thirty
in the morning. He flew straight from la to Japan.
And by the time then he got to Japan, then
he went and met met his friend at a train
station in Japan. Then they flew from Japan to Korea
and then took a train to get to their hotel
in Korea.
Speaker 1: So by the time wait, so Hendrik left Korea to
go meet him, he was traveling you. Yeah, he was
traveling around.
Speaker 2: Was already traveling around and in Japan they coordinated it
so they would be in Japan at the same time.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So he met him at a train station and by
the time Sonny got to Korea the hotel in Korea.
Speaker 1: It was a full twenty four hours. Yeah. Wow, Sonny
is badass. Yeah. I would be scared to do that.
Speaker 2: Well, I was scared for him to go by himself
and travel by himself and stuff.
Speaker 1: Myself and then just go find a random like how
I know the total in a country where it's very,
very difficult, like probably not a lot of people speak English. Yeah,
not all the signs, probably.
Speaker 2: Right, That's what I I know. That's what I'm worry about.
To figure out where the train station is right, right, right?
And what if his friend isn't there, I guess I know.
That's what I was worrying. I was worrying about. And
I did talk to his Hendrique's mom, and you know,
she's She gave me the hotels that they're staying at
and like everything and the flights and stuff and all that,
and she said it's really safe. I mean, like Korea
is really really safe and it is like kind of
easy for Americans to get around.
Speaker 1: So what if he just like joins a kpe pop
band though, and then has a totally different life. I know,
what are you gonna do? I guess we'll get tickets
and see and.
Speaker 2: Go see a cape. I think that Sunny likes to travel,
and I think that the reason why he's been in
Japan is because I think he I think that's one
of the reasons why he agreed to go is because
being out of this country, the only place he's gone
to is Japan, so he's familiar with the jet, the airport,
the Japanese transportation system, how to get around, so I
think he got used to it. So I think that's
why he would He was feeling comfortable to go by himself.
So that is just so cool. I'm in awe of
that kid. I I know, it just seems brave to me. Yeah,
I know, I know, I'm I'm I'm happy for him.
Speaker 1: I talked to him, So is he having Oh yeah, he's.
Speaker 2: Having a great time. Yeah, he sent me pictures. He's
been setting. I told him, get your mom some nice
skin cream. Get me a nice like Korean skin watch
or something, you know, come on, give me a souvenir.
So he's gonna bring me back something. Yeah, that's so cool.
Speaker 1: What about and what about in Italia and Natalia?
Speaker 2: She's going hard getting her classes finished. She might, she said,
if she doesn't get the grade point average that she
wants and needs, she's gonna do some summer school. Okay,
but other than that, she'll be done like in about
a month and then be back home.
Speaker 1: And then so will she do summer school like online?
Speaker 2: I think so she can do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were a lot of classes. Like when Elbie
was doing community she will she starts did it right
after high school. But there were a lot of classes
like she if she wanted to, let's say, transfer to UCLA.
I mean, the whole thing ended up being messed up,
and you know, the whole story. But she was trying
to take She took a couple of classes in the summer, right,
most of it was online.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that's what she would do. And and
they're both doing good. They're both doing good. They got
good grades, and they're enjoying it, like they don't mind
going to school like they are enjoying it. Which I
was like, you know, high school, you guys did not
enjoy it. And it's like, well it's different, you know, So.
Speaker 1: It's so good. I feel like that's hope for a
lot of people out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, yeah, because I.
Speaker 1: Look at my kids, and I mean, Xander's very different
than I am. He's such a way way more of
a high achiever, way more of almost almost daredevil, Like yeah, daredevil,
but you know, trying stuff. And like I looked at
these kids at speech and debate, just to bring it
back to that for a second, and I look at
Xander doing that and then he's operating at this really
high level and then being hard on himself, you know
what I mean. Like he's going like, well, I didn't
break and I didn't do that well, and I'm like,
I didn't do that well. Like you're doing something that
I would never in a million years have done at
your age. Like it's already some public speaking is already
something that people would do anything to get to get
out of. And you're going headfirst into it, and so
you're already way up here, and then you're being hard
on yourself and going, yeah, but I need to be
as good as this, like you already do all these
things performing in music and like it's really you know, yeah,
it's amazing. Yeah. I just feel like I was nowhere.
I did not care. I wasn't involved in stuff. I
was right different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, you think about it. Your kids
come from a good family home that you know, fosters
their curiosity, in their chance to you know, willing to
take chances on things, you know what I mean, Like
we didn't. I didn't have that. I don't think you know,
I didn't. I didn't have a home where that was
like totally encouraged. I don't know, like you know, it
just it's different. But I feel like your dad did.
My dad wanted me to like yeah, I kinda. I
don't know. It was just I think it was the
chaos that we both felt at home that didn't feel
like a nice environment.
Speaker 1: Just like try stuff. Yes, we're just trying to stay alive.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I just didn't want to get hit by
my mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I didn't want to get hit by my
mom either or yelled at all the time. I just
wanted out of my home situation. I wanted to have
like adventures. But when I think about my risky behavior,
I'm just so glad that my kids are not engaged
to engage like me too. I know, so Lbie, it's
so funny. Okay, I get this text from Elbe. She
won't she won't care if I'm sharing this. She really won't.
But I get a text in the middle of the night. Well,
I wake up in the morning to a text from
ELB that came in at two in the morning, two
fifteen in the morning that was like, Hi, Mama, are
you awake? Right? Nightmare right? And then she writes, hold on,
let me I'll tell you the exact text and hopefully
nobody reaches out to her. Okay, so oh I have
I have a lot of texts with her because she
ended up telling me this whole story. Okay, spoiler alert.
She's fine, Okay, so anyway, it doesn't really matter. She wrote, oh,
here it is, Mama, are you awake? Two fifteen am?
And then at oh and then forty five minutes later,
so nothing else after that. Then she wrote never mind
and VM all good l YSM, love you so much. Okay,
So I wake up at six twenty three in the
morning because I think this was the day that this
was the day that I had this speech thing, so
I will wake up really early to that text. And
I'm like, I am now, I'm awake. Now are you okay?
With a bunch of question marks. Right of course, answer nothing,
But I life three sixty her and she is in
her back at her apartment and her phone is fully charged.
So that tells me two things, one that she's okay
and two that she even had the wherewithal to plug
her phone in right like, so she's okay. So I
write at twelve thirty, I write, hey, are you up?
And then she wrote because this is how we talk
to each other, she wrote hey, ho, I'm up, and
then she wrote sorry. I was out last night and
I was with friends, but I'm not that close with
the girls, and we ended up at the most random,
weird after party in the hills and I wanted to
go home, but the uber was like fifty MF dollars
And then I got a bunch of cry faces and
she wrote I'm okay though, and then I wrote, did
you uber? You can always do that. I will always
pay for you to feel safe and comfortable. And then
she wrote I did I went right home. Oh good,
and then with a smiley faced heart on the eyes,
and then I wrote, how did you end up out
with random? And then she told me the story, which
was like, you know, a twenty year old girl's story
about I started out with these people, but then these
two wanted to go home. But then this girl was like,
we're going to an after party and she was my
ride and I said I don't really want to go,
but they were like, let's just check it out. And
then I got there and I was like, this is
not for this is not the vibe. Are not high?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: So yeah, she literally wrote not a vibe, Oh my god.
But they didn't want to leave, so I ubered back
asap and then I was like, always follow your instincts,
good girl. I will pay you back. Yes, yes, oh no.
This is like the fact that she texted you this
is twenty year old daughter. Shit, you guys, this is
where we're at exactly compared to stories I told you
about when she was five and had anxiety. Now I
gotta but like, isn't that isn't that what you want?
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, for sure. You want your kid to come
to you, especially in the middle of the night. But
like you know, I would have said, like, call me
instead of text me, because I can't hear anything when
I'm asleep. I don't hear my text.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should keep my I should probably keep my phone.
My phone's always on silent, oh it is, yeah, because
I'm always doing stuff, so I never like I'll check
and I check my phone all the time, so I
don't keep it on. I don't know, but I probably
should keep my phone on at night just in case.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I do all the time. Natalia called
me last night to tell me there's a serial killer
in North Hollywood. What that's what she said, And she
sent me a TikTok video. I don't know, and then
I looked it up. There is there was a crime
at some upscale North Hollywood apartment building where somebody was murdered.
But I don't know about a serial killer.
Speaker 1: By the way, broadcasting from North Hollywood right now, exactly,
We're in no hope, right.
Speaker 2: I just remembered that she sent this to me last night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could have told me that, like today, yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Can look it up.
Speaker 1: It's it's Is it a serial killer? Did they catch him?
I don't know.
Speaker 2: No, No, they haven't caught him. No, right, no, thank you.
There's his pictures up there though, from like you know,
ring cameras and stuff. Oh god, And he did kill
somebody in an apartment building and an upscale apart.
Speaker 1: Why do they say serial killer as you do? That's
what I think he's killed other people. I don't know.
Speaker 2: They think maybe he's he's.
Speaker 1: I literally thought I heard a noise and was liked you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I'll find out more. Okay, Well,
on that note, boom boom, good show.
Speaker 1: Hey did we say hi to people? I don't think
we did say hi again? Ashley you're so chic, and
stephanie're a stinker, and Athena you got great moves, and
Sandra you're green. Jennifer you're on the floor. Get up.
Aaron you're a dirty Sanchez. Did we even say hi
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than we are. Stop coughing. Alicia Escalante from the City
of El Monte. Kelly, you're going to take somebody to
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you know what you know what you did wrong? Katerina
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Speaker 1: I've got you know. Who I'm interviewing this week is
Khanley from Letters to Cleo, and she is one of
the voices on our song right right, right, yeah, Michelle
Lewis and Khanley from the Dilettants. Yeah. So she's awesome
and she's been sober for a while and I'm interviewing her.
I'm interviewing next week Emily Paulson, who wrote the book Heyhun.
She all about MLMs and how she left an MLM
and she got sober. And that's going to be a
really good interview.
Speaker 2: Interesting, all right.
Speaker 1: And this week that you that just passed is my
friend Jane Edith Wilson. She's an actress and she's now
a social worker. She does therapy. She's really cool. She
works in like rehabs, and she's funny and she's crazy,
yun nice, yeah, all right, thanks everybody, Thanks Paine your parent.
Speaker 2: Now, don't niff at us Mandingo