WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:02.439 Oh, guess what Dad is. 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:04.639 Guess what Dad is? 3 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:05.480 Huh? 4 00:00:05.719 --> 00:00:12.720 Anybody I heard. 5 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:17.679 With epic with our show, you're gonna ruling it except 6 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:21.719 for similar fee pursuing it huddled out Shaw shank through 7 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:24.839 the sewer. Kid, Now what you're lying at the Eagle. Yeah, 8 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:28.039 we're doing it. Three o'clock on the dock. Got a 9 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:30.800 habit for my house, a gold status. How we'd starting 10 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:34.719 to get craddic shows that up multiplied like a rabbit. 11 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:37.799 Tune in, zone out, crank it up, beat the habit. 12 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:43.560 I'm on hang out with the friends, rocking on the 13 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:50.320 lady my hum going on by Spinkin talking on the radio. 14 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:53.759 It's time to to this faskin. 15 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:56.399 Oh baby, Hen we. 16 00:00:56.520 --> 00:01:00.079 Go, Kat to stream up and Skin. 17 00:01:01.479 --> 00:01:02.799 All up mom radio. 18 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:07.959 Yes, Hello and welcome everybody. This is the world famous 19 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:10.480 Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point one the Eagle In. 20 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:15.040 Today we are broadcasting live from the Dallas Mavericks draft 21 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:17.760 party at the American Airline Center. We're gonna do our 22 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:19.840 show from three to six. It's brought to you by 23 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:23.040 k Post Company. Very excited about this. They stepped up 24 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:27.120 there sponsoring our draft extravaganza today and it's it's fun 25 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:28.680 to be in the arena. It's fun to be here 26 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:31.040 around all this energy. Doors are going to open here 27 00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:33.439 at five point thirty. Fans will be able to flood 28 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:36.879 into the AAC and come watch the draft festivities here 29 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:39.120 as the Dallas Mavericks have the number one pick. More 30 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:40.920 on that later, but I do want to just set 31 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:43.280 the tone for this thing and introduce the crew who's 32 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:45.359 here all hands on deck on remote today at the 33 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:48.000 American Airline Center. I'm Ben Rogers, and I'm joined by 34 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:51.120 my close personal homie since nineteen eighty two. We grew 35 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:53.840 up together in Richardson, Texas. Given up for Jeff skin Wade. 36 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:54.319 Wow. 37 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:56.599 Yeah, every time I hear set the tone, I think 38 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:59.159 of that guy in that bear mask fame. It's so good. 39 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:02.400 Not the tone that down. You know, it was a 40 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:05.280 great moment for the entire world to enjoy. But what 41 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:09.479 a horrible thing to do to that kid. Just unbelievable. Hi, Ben, 42 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:11.960 Happy Draft Day. Oh dude, I'm so excited. I can't 43 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:13.400 wait to get into all of this. But you're you're 44 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:17.120 not only doing our show, uh you will? You will 45 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:20.159 jump away from our radio show up here at the 46 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.120 American Airline Center We're in section one oh one, kind 47 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:26.520 of the middle of the arena, on one of the baselines, 48 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:30.560 looking down at center court where there's a nice TV set. 49 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:32.919 Oh look, and so I look at that jib arm 50 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:34.879 I was cold skin, and I was like, hey, man, 51 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:36.879 where do I park here? And even though it's thirty 52 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:38.400 seven emails about it, I was like, yeah, I don't 53 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:40.439 know where to park. And he told me where and 54 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:42.319 then I go, okay, are you here yet? And he goes, yeah, 55 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:44.960 but I'm parking in a very special place. I'm a 56 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:48.280 TV star, I'm parking where the players usually park. I 57 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:50.159 don't know. We'll have time to talk to you today, 58 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:52.800 That's what he said to me. Uh so, but I'm 59 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:54.680 looking at this set. You will leave our show and 60 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:57.520 go do three hours of live television tonight. Yes, and 61 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:00.240 it's going to be simulcast right here on the goal 62 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:03.360 thanks to our friends at KPO. So it's Draft day, 63 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:07.159 were the home of Dallas Mavericks basketball, and so we're 64 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:09.120 doing our show from the arena, like you mentioned, from 65 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:12.479 three to six tons of Cooper flag and Maverick coverage. 66 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:16.400 And then at six o'clock, MAVs TV is doing a 67 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:19.800 television show it's a party here at the American Airline Center. 68 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:21.520 They have not had the number one pick in the 69 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:25.759 draft since nineteen eighty one when they drafted Mark Aguire. 70 00:03:26.319 --> 00:03:30.719 That was before the lottery even existed. The lottery didn't 71 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:32.719 come into being for another five or six years later, 72 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:34.599 and it started with Patrick Ewing going to the New 73 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:38.439 York Knicks. But in the entire history of the lottery starting, 74 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:40.039 and when the lottery started, do you guys know how 75 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:43.080 many teams there were in the lottery? H No, any 76 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:48.120 guests say, good, guess? Seven seven seven teams in the lottery. 77 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:51.319 And then it changed over time, and because there were 78 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:54.199 so many people that were convinced that the lottery was rigged, 79 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:56.759 they started doing all the lottery all these different ways. 80 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:00.240 And in that entire history, the Mavericks had no ever 81 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:04.319 moved up, not even moved up in the lottery, much 82 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:07.159 less get the number one pick. And they got the 83 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:13.360 number one pick in a year where a transition or 84 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:18.600 not trans Thank you, transcendent player, you should let yeah, 85 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:21.240 just hanging out. Why did we throw him a lifelong 86 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:24.240 cra I don't know, y'all are sweet? Uh? And so 87 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:26.439 they get him, I mean last year Atlanta went from 88 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:28.879 number ten to number one, and they got a decent player. 89 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:32.040 It didn't get a franchise changing player. It's such a 90 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:35.199 big deal that our whole extravaganza to day is music free. 91 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:36.920 We're just going to do our show for three hours 92 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:39.680 and then get into three hours of the MAVs draft 93 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:42.240 simulcast coverage. That's gonna be awesome. But also joining us 94 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:44.959 today the pride and joy of Only Texas. You know, 95 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:47.319 he had a couple of good years hitting kind of 96 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:50.199 in the middle to late part of that only JV 97 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:54.199 batting order, little backup utility infield action on that JV squad, 98 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:56.319 Kevin kat Turnay, we. 99 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:58.720 Did enough people for a JV squad. I was on Varsiti. 100 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:04.480 Uh three, we have six in the Metroplex eighty seven. 101 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:08.319 There's no way. 102 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:13.439 It's only eighty seven, significantly south of the Heat Dome. Okay, Up, 103 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:16.439 if you go up north and to the northeast, they're 104 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:20.319 having some problems now politically, I would say up in 105 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:22.720 New York, there's a big story. It's Harvey Epstein is 106 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:28.000 leading the primary. He Harvey Epstein leading Anthony Wiener and 107 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:30.959 I'm paying attention to this, like maybe more than the 108 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:31.800 NBA draft. 109 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:34.480 Harvey Epstein, I. 110 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:35.879 Don't know if I know Harvey Epstein. 111 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:39.639 He's a real guy, and he is dunking on Anthony Wiener, 112 00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:40.639 who's back now. 113 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:42.839 His brother Jeff used to hang out with Wiener. 114 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:44.759 No, no, no, no, no, it's a real guy. 115 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:45.240 Okay. 116 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:47.800 He's got the worst name that you could have outside 117 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:51.360 of the Ravens played by play guy Jerry Sandusky. That 118 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:53.240 was a tough deal for him. That is tough when 119 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:56.800 that'll happen. But yeah, he's both one part Weinstein and 120 00:05:56.800 --> 00:05:59.600 one part Epstein with none of the criminal stuff that 121 00:05:59.680 --> 00:05:59.920 we know. 122 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:04.160 We know, right, uh So keep us abreast on that. 123 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:08.040 Kevin New York listener, I can have one more piece 124 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:11.639 of New York news like this. Have y'all seen the 125 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:13.000 new picture picture for the Mets. 126 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:15.439 His name is a Dickie love Lady. 127 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:22.839 That's not a real. 128 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:23.560 His first name is Richard, but he goes by Dickie. 129 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:30.480 He doesn't go by dick No, Dickie love Lady, Love Ladies. Fantastic. 130 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:33.680 It's the name and effect sounds like for Electric six. 131 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:38.040 For it does sound like Electric six. A redneck dick 132 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:42.240 love Lady. Also joining us today is a lady who 133 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:47.120 is a phenomenal guitarist. She can be heard uh in 134 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:51.279 the popular local Nirvana cover band Oatmeal Pizza. She's also 135 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:53.879 the only really good thing and redeeming thing about this 136 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:56.399 dumbass show. Christina k Red a little Baby corn Bread Racked. 137 00:06:56.439 --> 00:06:59.319 Hey, guys, I still say blanket in my head when 138 00:06:59.360 --> 00:06:59.879 you say that. 139 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:02.519 A hard time not saying it. I'm like, is it 140 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:04.759 Blincoln or not? Is the name of the band. When 141 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:07.600 are you guys performing again? If I might ask. 142 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:11.399 This Friday night? Then at Club Dotta. Okay, we're playing 143 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:15.000 with Van Damn as well. Are you all gonna do 144 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:16.000 any Nirvana songs? 145 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:16.360 Yes? 146 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:20.879 Okay, every every song but one will be a Nirvanica cool? 147 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:22.319 Is it a mystery? Are you glad to say what 148 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:22.959 the other song is? 149 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:23.079 Oh? 150 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:24.319 Yeah, you gotta show up and see what. 151 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:29.120 Okay, is it gigantic? No? Man, have you given that up? 152 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:29.439 No? 153 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:30.360 I haven't given it up. 154 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:36.439 Okay, is it cherry bomb? It's not cherry Is it 155 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:37.639 cherry pie? By warrant? 156 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:38.120 It is not. 157 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:40.600 But maybe at the next show we'll do that. 158 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:40.920 Dude. 159 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:43.160 If you guys, the guys, you guys did cherry Pie, 160 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:44.879 I'd be so glad great? 161 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:49.360 Is there an acoustic set beforehand from John Claude? 162 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:51.000 Oh? I like that question. 163 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:54.680 Not that I know of him. I haven't seen him 164 00:07:54.680 --> 00:07:55.560 in many action movies. 165 00:07:56.480 --> 00:07:58.879 All the steroids just made his whole body pop. I 166 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:02.000 think he's doing French love films now. By the way, 167 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:04.480 the big story of the day is the MAVs draft. 168 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:07.519 The second big in the NBA draft. Second biggest story 169 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:10.160 is the liver King in trouble. We'll get into that later. Huge. 170 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:12.199 How has that impacted the last twenty four hours of 171 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:15.360 you guys watching liver King meltdown? Man, I didn't know 172 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:18.319 what happened until you guys told me, and I still 173 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:21.319 don't know that it happened, So it hasn't impacted me 174 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:21.879 a lot. 175 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:23.759 I'll be one hundred percent honest for a show that's 176 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:25.439 going to do this story a little bit later in 177 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:26.399 the shot, I don't know any of. 178 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:27.079 The details yet. 179 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:30.240 Okay, I did see the mugshot and he's not holding 180 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:32.679 up well, yeah, just to subscribe to his diet and 181 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:35.639 need all those weird cook to pus and stuff. 182 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:39.039 I like watching it because it's this huge, ripped guy 183 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:41.600 with like a Viking helmet on and he's just eating 184 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:44.840 raw beef testicles. I'm like, yeah, sure, I'll watch this. 185 00:08:44.919 --> 00:08:46.799 Why what's wrong with this? You guys? Let me know 186 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:49.879 when he's turned into Mickey Rourke and he is, and 187 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:52.759 so over the last I don't know, forty eight hours, 188 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:55.879 he started melting down and really seemed like a mental 189 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:58.679 health distress call, and he started calling out Joe Rogan. 190 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:00.919 I don't know what their beef is. He started threatening 191 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:02.440 Joe Rogan and then he got in his car and 192 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:05.120 drove to Austin to meet Joe Rogan while he's making 193 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:08.440 threats and the police were like, yeah, you can't do that. 194 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:10.720 Why not just have Bernie Sanders kick his ass. He's 195 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:13.559 hanging out with Joe Rogan right now. Yeah. So anyways, 196 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:15.639 we'll have more on that once we read about it. 197 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:17.519 But man, the big story of the day the MAVs 198 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:19.960 are I have the number one pick, They're getting Cooper flag, 199 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:24.159 and man, I don't know where the full metroplex is 200 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:29.799 with all this, where everybody stands, But for me, I'm 201 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:34.519 over the Lucas stuff. I'll never fully I'm able to 202 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:37.399 compartmentalize my anger in the trade. Do I think it 203 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:39.879 was a good trade? Hell? No, I think it's the 204 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:42.279 worst trade I've ever seen in the history of trading, 205 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:44.679 and whether it's sports or lunch room trade and the 206 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:47.279 sandwich for a banana, any trade that's ever happened in 207 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:50.080 the history of mankind. This might be the worst one 208 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:54.480 of those. But that said, the drug that I love 209 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:57.519 most when it comes to sports is hope. Hope is 210 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:01.440 hope is better than anything. It's even it's almost better 211 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:04.320 than contending because the promise of being able to contend 212 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:06.960 and having a big winning window open. The thing about 213 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:09.759 Luca that was so great, he was our wonder boy 214 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:13.440 right he was young. They had a ten fifteen twenty 215 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:16.000 year window. If you look at the magical you know 216 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.799 nature in which Dirk spent twenty one seasons here. But 217 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:21.159 you know the hope of what was to come, knowing 218 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:25.159 you had one of the unicorns in the basketball universe universe. 219 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:27.279 You know, even if the MAVs that ended up with 220 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:29.639 the number two pick, I'd still be pissed off right 221 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:32.639 now about Luca. But they're not number two. They somehow 222 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:35.080 lucked into getting the number one pick in this draft 223 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:37.919 in a year where it's a transcendent player, one of 224 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:40.360 the best all around number ones to come out since 225 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:43.399 Anthony Davis or you could even say sence Zion, but 226 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:48.039 an undisputed number one, like his sophomore year of high school, 227 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:50.519 the thought was he's the number one guy in his class, 228 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:54.399 and then his junior year, senior year college he stayed 229 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.879 number one. Yeah, sometimes the guy starts his number one 230 00:10:56.879 --> 00:10:59.440 and ends up ninety eight. He was number one as 231 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:02.000 a sophomore, and yep, number one now and going number 232 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:05.279 one in the draft, and so he's he's can't miss. 233 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:08.879 And so I could be angry about the Luca trade, 234 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:11.399 and I don't want to tell anyone how to feel. 235 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:13.600 I don't begrudge anyone for feeling however they want to feel. 236 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:15.759 I know some people will never come back to the Mavericks. 237 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.720 I was wondering. I didn't know if I was going 238 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:20.840 to be a Maths fan anymore. I bought Lakers gear, 239 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:24.080 I went through it. We're all about that's similar to 240 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:26.480 the time you bought the Joe Bond handa jer That's 241 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:28.799 actually a true story. Yeah, and I regret it, and 242 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:30.080 I hate that you brought it up on air. I'm 243 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:30.840 probably gonna sue you. 244 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.519 I didn't even know that one, like he apologized a 245 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:36.919 couple of years later he bought the one. 246 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:40.440 When he was a chief. That's not true. But I 247 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:42.720 thought about quitting. I thought about it. You know, man, 248 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:45.039 I can't do it. I'm out, I'm not in. I 249 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:46.600 can't be a Maverick fan. And I've been a Maverick 250 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:52.840 van since eighty. So this the ad, This, this restores hope. 251 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:57.039 This is my drug. He's the youngest player drafted since Lebron. 252 00:11:57.440 --> 00:11:59.960 Like he's he's younger than my oldest son, who's here. 253 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:02.759 By the way, he might be the youngest Maverick drafted 254 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:06.080 since we got Leon Wood. No, not Leon Wood. What 255 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:07.960 was his name, Leon Smith? Did you remember the guy 256 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:08.639 from Chicago? 257 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:09.039 Oh? 258 00:12:10.279 --> 00:12:13.240 Yes, But it's like the hope drug is back. Yeah. 259 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:16.039 And so look, you're you got a player who's gonna 260 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:19.440 be good for fifteen years. Yeah, who's gonna be elite, 261 00:12:19.480 --> 00:12:22.360 who's gonna they not only are a contender when Kyrie 262 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:25.360 gets healthy, but they're a contender that just got the 263 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:27.639 number one pick. And so there's a lot of that. 264 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:29.960 I don't like about that trade. But I'm able to 265 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:32.320 move forward, and I know not everybody is. Did you 266 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:36.279 see Lebron talking about Cooper Flagg calling him a dog 267 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:38.360 and talking about how hard he goes and yeah, but 268 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:40.480 the specific thing I was talking about was he's like 269 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:45.120 he's sufforded a situation. I was not, Like Lebron went 270 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:47.200 to a team where I think their second best player 271 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:50.080 might have been Donielle Marshall. He was like, man, he's 272 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:54.879 going to a team with three Hall of famers. Think about, Yeah, 273 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:57.720 there's three guys on the Dallas Maverick right now that 274 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:01.240 are Hall of Famers. There's two guys he's gonna be 275 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:04.960 playing with that are former number one picks. Okay, and 276 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:09.080 so he's coming into an organization where all you have 277 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:12.240 to do is look at. The thing I would compare 278 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:14.759 it to is look at how suddenly the entire NBA 279 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:18.399 changed the way they felt about PJ. Washington Junior. Like, 280 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:23.559 it's just so different when you're in a good organization 281 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:27.720 with great players. And I'm not taking shots at Charlotte, 282 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:29.600 but they've been bad for a long time and they're 283 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:32.000 having a tough time getting out of it, and so 284 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:35.480 that has a negative effect on everybody. And so PJ. 285 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:39.240 Washington Junior gets here and then suddenly everyone's like, oh, yeah, 286 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:42.159 I remember why he was a late lottery pick and 287 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:45.080 such a hot. Wow, this guy could do everything. It's like, yeah, 288 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:48.480 because he's playing with great players. This is why super 289 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:52.080 teams formed. Kevin Durant Lebron James like, Man, I don't 290 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:54.840 want to have to do every single thing myself. It'd 291 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:58.080 be badass to play with another great player like Magic 292 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.840 and Bird did. And so it's like when you come 293 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:06.480 into a situation that he's coming into where they're asking him, hey, 294 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:09.200 be our fourth best starter on a team that has 295 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:14.120 championship aspirations, that's very liberating, right, And he has a 296 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:17.799 chance to learn from elite players how to go be 297 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:20.679 a franchise changing player. He doesn't have to go figure 298 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:23.480 it out next to Donnielle Marshall. He gets to come 299 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:26.000 and immediately be with two guys that are franchise changing 300 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:28.360 players that can teach him how to do it. And 301 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:30.840 team building wise, it used to be about all right, man, 302 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:33.799 can you get two superstars? And then obviously you look 303 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:36.440 at the Miami he let's you get three superstars and 304 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:39.720 that idea. Now, this idea of building a team with depth. 305 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:41.840 Look what Oklahoma City is doing. There's a lot of 306 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:44.960 you know, there's teams out there now that all right, 307 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:48.879 we look at Indiana like just guy after guy after 308 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:51.879 guy who's good and can contribute. Right that, you know, 309 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:53.879 if you were going to try to acquire Cooper Flag 310 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:56.360 to a team that already had two overall number one picks, 311 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:58.559 that would cost you your whole cap. He's gonna make 312 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:01.000 what fourteen million or whatever somewhere in there. And so 313 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:03.960 they're just team building wise. You know they could they 314 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:07.200 still may make other trades, but right if you keep 315 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:09.679 PJ and you know you can't, Like you got all 316 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:12.600 these guys, You've got so much depth. Do you all 317 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:15.000 want to talk about the Kyrie thing that happened last night? 318 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:18.559 I do, But I do want to ask Kat and 319 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:22.080 Christina how they're feeling about everything, because I know you 320 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:24.639 guys love Luca like we all love Luca. So Christina, 321 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:26.799 how are you doing emotionally with all of this today? 322 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:29.799 I don't think I'll be fully over the Luca thing. 323 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:31.960 I will say I am excited. I am very excited 324 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:34.399 for this day, but I will not fully be over 325 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:37.799 it until we actually, like officially get Cooper Flag like 326 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:41.360 he is actually with our team and wearing a Mavericks jersey. 327 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:44.440 And then when I see them play the first game altogether, 328 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:46.240 I think that's when I'll finally be. 329 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:47.720 Like, Okay, take a deep breath. 330 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:50.639 Everything's going to be okay for the next what fifteen 331 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:51.960 twenty years hopefully worn that. 332 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:54.799 Do you guys remember what you thought? And you may 333 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:56.840 have watched it live, you may have not, But do 334 00:15:56.879 --> 00:15:59.399 you guys remember what you're thinking as you're watching the 335 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:01.919 first half of that Rockets Mavericks game. When he took, 336 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:05.440 I was furious, and then I was cheering very loudly, going, 337 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:07.840 oh my god, we're so good. Am I allowed to 338 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:10.960 feel this way when they were When the second seed 339 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:13.480 in the West couldn't get a shot off, it was. 340 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:16.120 Pretty wild when Ad played to the crowd, Yeah, that 341 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:18.840 was huge. Meanwhile, on the other TV, I was watching 342 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:21.559 some golf. It was really a good tournament. I think 343 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:22.759 that was one of the Hawaii tournaments. 344 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:25.519 Was really good. But that Ad immediately got hurt, which 345 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:29.519 complicates the discussion. But kt where are you with everything? 346 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:30.440 Oh? 347 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:31.960 I'm in a lot of places. 348 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:32.320 Uh. 349 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:36.559 Personally, I don't like that there's no surprise, like nothing's 350 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:39.480 gonna top the twenty eighteen draft, and we were alive 351 00:16:39.519 --> 00:16:39.759 on the. 352 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:42.159 Air doing the show, and we were as it was 353 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:42.720 going down. 354 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:44.960 We had Donnie Nelson on the show and he's making 355 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:47.279 jokes about we're gonna draft eight and even though eight 356 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:49.639 and was going number one, and little did we know 357 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:52.159 that trade mechanisms were already happening. And then we got 358 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:55.120 that reporter from Atlanta on it was huge. Oh, like 359 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:57.679 was breaking it kind of that the Mavericks are going 360 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:00.879 to trade to get Luca. And the other thing I'm 361 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:03.480 really thinking about a lot today is I am excited 362 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:06.079 that Cooper Flagg will be wearing a Mavericks hat when 363 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:08.519 he's drafted, because I do think it's a real bummer 364 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:10.920 that Luca had to wear an Atlanta. 365 00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:11.960 Hawk's hat and his draft picture. 366 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:13.279 I still think of him as a Hawk. 367 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:17.359 It's really outside of letting big trades happen before game 368 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:20.359 seven of your finals. It's really one of the dumbest 369 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:22.359 things that the league has going right now that we 370 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:24.559 can't just make it clear who's pick is who's. 371 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:26.200 You don't like that a team in the finals was 372 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:28.279 making trades after like games three. 373 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:30.240 It's not my favorite and I think we could just 374 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.200 all learn some lessons from some other leagues because it's 375 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:35.000 just not a smart way to do business. 376 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:36.400 It's really dumb. 377 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:38.079 You know how many nine year olds are going to 378 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:40.720 be and confused tonight about who's getting drafted. 379 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:43.400 Yeah, I'm glad you brought up nine year olds because 380 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:47.039 here's one of the things that I've noticed about discourse 381 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:53.039 public conversation about sports. It's run by social media, okay, 382 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:58.160 and things can appear bigger than they are because of 383 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:03.519 social media, and social media is mostly run by young people, 384 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:07.400 younger people that don't have all this perspective. Here's how 385 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.240 you can tell. They'll name the greatest mavericks of old 386 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:13.240 time and not one of them played before twenty ten. Right, 387 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:15.160 And you're like, okay, I get it. You know your 388 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.279 world is your world. But I want everybody And I 389 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:22.200 tried to bring this up during the trade because everyone 390 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:24.720 started talking about, well, who the addlsons are and Dumont 391 00:18:24.759 --> 00:18:26.480 and how they don't care and all this stuff. I 392 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:30.240 was like, I want everybody to remember that. In nineteen 393 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:34.240 ninety six, the team was run by Ross Pero Junior. 394 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:37.480 It was a real estate development and he took a 395 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:41.920 land developer gave him the job of GM. He traded 396 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:45.160 Jason Kidd and then told the newspaper it's not rocket science. 397 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:48.279 So to act like this is some thing, Oh my god, 398 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:50.720 And I think like this the sneaker salesman, oh my god, 399 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:54.839 like dude a real estate developer traded a future Hall 400 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:58.200 of Famer and said it wasn't rocket science. This happened 401 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:02.799