Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka colored a podcast from the Mac
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hello and welcome. Thank you for getting your pawn on.
Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the
word about the pirates. Kevin is here and Kevin just
gave me what is uh? I don't know. I don't
know how to take it well last since it's kind
of a nothing burger, but it's a weird thing. It
doesn't it feel depressive in a way or is it exciting?
Speaker 2: Well based on that too, I remember seeing something recently
that have back to the futures made today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're already Marty be going ninety five. Yeah, oh god, yeah, yeah,
I know thirty years ago.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it said as of July seconds, which would
be the official halfway part mark of the year twenty
twenty five, we will be closer to the year twenty
fifty than the year two thousand.
Speaker 1: When is the halfway mark of the year July July second,
second July second, So that's coming up in less than
a month, a couple of weeks. It's a weird thing.
I don't know I have. I feel like there's a
shot clock and I got a lot to do yet,
I too, I feel like there's a shot clock. We
gotta get shit. Going a little nap last day helped
one that getting that shit today. Don't that's not even
what I meant. I know, I just meant. I'm just
saying you're missing out on stuff by taking those naps. Well,
here's the bad part is like I okay, So I
had a therapy session this morning at before we taped this,
and that came up and I go, God, I think
I have a drinking problem, Like the wheels come off quick. Oh,
I have the same problem and I can feel it.
And I went out with people earlier this week for
a podcast meeting, Like it was shann and Joy and
this guy Dave Mamono and we met together and we
had and I had three beers, three coronas. No big deal, right,
Dave says, all right, who's ready for another round? And uh,
Shannon and I look at each other. He goes, but
I got to take off, but it's my turn, and
she goes, Oh, no, no, we'll we'll end it. I
was about to say to Dave if he was staying,
I won't let you drink alone. Because Shannon goes. I
think she said I have to go, but I go.
I was gonna stay and keep drinking and I'll take
one for the tea. Why is it that I hit
that threshold and the threshold seems to be lower than before,
But at the magic number of three, which is actually
my favorite number, It's like I just could go wow
and just keep going. And then yesterday we I taped
the podcast The Fairport Canal Days going on. That podcast
will drop on Tuesday. People are walking in here toothles
SETI comes in, mon yep, Vinnie Press comes in. An
old babysitter of mine from when I was a kid
down state comes in. It was stops By waving. I
was gonna he just knew we were already taping forgetting
who else? Another person comes in and then I see
my friends walking by. They're all waving, and I'm like,
I'm missing out of the fun. So I go home.
I left, and I'm mack, it was really hard to leave,
to leave, And then my son is like, I just
want to hang out and have fun Bubba and back
I came and then back. Now I wasn't here long.
I was home by five point thirty, but I was
eating the pillow. I mean, what the fuck goes on?
Speaker 2: That's the difference between your drinking problem mine. I could
drink beer all day, well, I was. I could just
pound beer all day. Or where I go off the
rails is when Bob shows up and we start doing shots,
or when Shane shows up and we start doing shots.
Speaker 1: That's where I go off the rail, right. But I
can feel myself like I could just keep drinking all day.
Oh I can.
Speaker 3: I can.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I can drink beer all day. It
doesn't it doesn't. It doesn't make me a dick or
make me pass out y there, Oh it does me.
Speaker 2: But when I start getting into the shots, yeah, that's
when I start getting.
Speaker 1: Stupid and I get really I get I just get drunk.
It doesn't matter I gets wrong. It don't get me wrong.
It's like beer wine. Those will be my first to
go tos. Then maybe mixed drinks. I could. I can
whatever alcohol I can feel, I can feel it. I'm
at that tipping point and it's like good boy, bad boy,
what are you gonna do? Good decisions, bad decisions, And
not that they're bad decisions, it's not. It's just like
then you wake up and you got this guilt and
I could have and I should have or back to
you your car. Yes, yes, and it's a fucking nightmare. Yes,
and that you know all whatever. Uh so one time
we're gonna start drinking today. I think we can get
the show. Oh dude, I get two three and a
half hour easily. I don't want to. I definitely don't
want to do that. You start to feel shitty. Here's
a weird thing. I'm driving here today and I'm behind
a truck and it has a really cool spider web
on the tailgate and I'm I'm assuming it's spider web
went up and in my head, I go, wow, adult
fan of Spider Man, you had to pay a lot
to have that done right, And there's but there's no
Spider Man. There's a spider in the web coming out
and all this And as I approach on the top
of the tailgate is like, I think a wooden bumper
or maybe a piece of iron and on it and
I couldn't tell if it was written in chalk. I
couldn't tell if it was written in spray paint, but
it says if it's alive, we'll kill it. So I'm
assuming they were antor exterminator. And then I go, what
if they're not? What if they are a higher a
murder for hire? Because we only hear about the murder
for hire when it goes back, how fucking drunk did
you get yesterday?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: But your mind went there right, And then I go,
when was the last murder for hire? I found two
within the last three days. Well of people being sentenced,
so probably a while ago. But Victoria Goodwin, she's the
estranged wife of the ghost Hunter the Ghost Adventures guy
Aaron Goodwin. She was sentenced for plotting to have him murdered.
She pled guilty to conspiracy to commit murder and received
the sentence of thirty six to ninety months in prison.
That's nothing. She's a car.
Speaker 2: Payment, so that she got sentenced for basically thinking about
and and well she must have contact somebody paying the money. Yes, yes,
to have me killed. Yes, But I think the dude,
I think the dude did get killed. I think the
Ghost Hunter guy died thirty months for that thirty six
to ninety months in prison with two and a half years,
I know, with ninety.
Speaker 1: Of your problem's gone, that's well worth it. Yeah, I
guess I think that. Yeah, yes, see, this is terrible.
Ninety two days credited for time served because she's been
in So you're taking one months, three months off that
you're sell or two years and change. So you'll be
out thirty three to ninety and you'll be out in eighteen.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, she began communicating with grant a
motto an inmate serving a life sentence for murdering his
family in twenty nineteen. So how the fun Parker. This
guy's like operating from inside the prison he was in
for life. Though, after seeing him in a true crime
documentary guys don't let your guys don't let you watch.
Speaker 4: So we know that this true crime stuff, it's the
most popular in the podcast world. It's huge on streaming services,
and this broad goes, hey, here's an idea.
Speaker 1: I got to reach out to this guy. Their message
is revealed. She shared Aaron's schedule and location via apples
Find my app and discuss payment methods. Victoria claimed loneliness
and marital issues motivated her actions. Aaron had filed for
divorce in twenty March of twenty twenty five. A solicitation
charge was dropped as part of the plea deal. I
think I thought this guy died.
Speaker 2: So what's the going rate if the guy's serving life?
Is it like four packs of ramens, a couple of
cartons and pools and I don't know, a couple bags
of druffles.
Speaker 1: Aaron Goodwin is his TV personality forty nine years old. No,
he's still alive. Okay, he's forty nine. He survived this,
so they got I thought, okay, which.
Speaker 2: Is probably why she's only getting the thirty to ninety months.
Well what does it say about our then you're you're
not an accessory? No, you're not right, it's still premeditated.
Speaker 1: Right, but when that bitch gets out, you're fucking walking
on eggshells, are you not? How psychologically fucked up would
that be? Knowing that someone had a plan to have
you exterminated? Putting it in you know, not alive you,
I think is the way they say in the social
media because they don't want you to say and kill
and stuff. But I could see it happening to me.
What does it say about our culture when someone watches
a murderer in a documentary and decides to collaborate with them.
I mean, what the actual fuck? I feel like we're
blurring the lines between a fascination and fixation. Yes, it is.
It's fucked up. It's like wow. And I guarantee the
people who made the documentary we're like, no, no, this
was not the planned this was not the idea. It's crazy.
And you go the find my app, like, think of
all the ways. Remember I said I think you were
in here when I was like, stalking is so easy?
Now it is. Yeah, I mean this lady and it's
her husband, find my app facilitating real life crimes. And
so after I think this was revealed, that's when you
filed for divorce. I had no idea.
Speaker 2: Turn your GPS off. Boys and girls get a tom Tom.
Speaker 1: I mean, every digital tool that's designed for convenience can
in the wrong hands, be weaponized. When you think about it,
in the wrong hands, all that shit can be weaponized.
That's scary. And there's you just drinking in the day away. Yes,
I understand, loneliness. You know that's my that's my problem.
Ginnis never killed me. Or attempted to. No, Guinnis loves me.
Guinnis fucking loves me, you know what loves me? That
two can sam with the two can that's on there.
I don't know why they have a two can. I
think it's a two can. Uh God, I just it
was associating. And then there's a guy in in Wisconsin.
Wasn't there one here recently?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 6: Was? Oh?
Speaker 2: There was when they found the guy with the in
the in the fire pit, the bone fragments.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that the kids that that was? The kids that
did it? Oh? We did it. I think we lead
the league.
Speaker 2: And kids killing people here, kids killing their parents? You
got the tans, you got yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was another murder for hire locally many years ago.
As a lawyer, I think, I don't know. You gotta
go what he got away from her? The emotional and
psychological dissent that can lead someone to such a drastic
and scary and dangerous decision is so fucked up. Is
it not like you got a bad marriage, he's not around.
Go find someone who's available. Don't kill the fucker. You
don't find someone who's available and enjoy your life. You're
gonna spend even if it's say she gets the maximum
and it's ninety and you've already got three months off, right,
so now you're eighty seven months about five years, Right's
approximately five years, so you figure in that time it's
not gonna be an easy time. I mean, prison isn't
I mean, even the cupcake prisons aren't that nice. I
watched the I watched the Martha Stewart doc. It didn't
sound like it was a fucking pleasant time in there. Prison.
It's not supposed to be pleasant, no, but I mean
you go its loneliness ever a valid excuse to kill someone.
I'm lonely, fuck you, or you're gonna be lonely too.
But then you're sitting in prison and all you're doing
is thinking about shit too well, I didn't do it
right the first time. I guess this is the thing.
Or could you reach out from behind bars to somebody
that you get totally sure you could? You know, I
don't know if emotional isolation like now, I'm not saying
like loneliness, but you know, this is someone who says,
you're my partner, we have our lives committed to each other,
but you have this emotional isolation. I mean that maybe
we don't pay attention to the mental health of that,
because clearly it's fucked up. What are you looking at
me like this way? You think I'm not having a
conversation with Kerry. That's a conversation about what making sure
I'm not getting whacked. It's I don't know, I you
know what, We're gonna be talking to deputy early about
other things. But I do wonder if if that. I'm
sure there's been cases here. I know there was one
in Wayne County and it was a lawyer and something.
I think he was trying to kill his wife or
she was trying to kill him. I'm not sure, but
either way you go, this.
Speaker 2: Is fucked I would love to hear some of the
fucked up things that they've intercepted coming in communication wise.
Speaker 1: Okay, that like plans like that that have come in.
But think of this. How many do we not know about?
How many do we not know about? Right? Oh my god, Bob,
you wouldn't believe it. It was a terrible accident. His
breaks went on his brand new Mercedes, you know what
I mean, And he's coming around a curve and boom.
I mean, it never happens at Victor, Chrysler, Dodge Brown. No,
it does not. Break lines are always no because somebody
cut the break line. That's what I'm saying. It's not
a faulty break I'm saying like a and you're right.
Speaker 2: The next you get pissed off, carme one more time,
you might have a faulty break line.
Speaker 1: But do you understand it? Like what? There have to
have been times where this has worked out and nobody's done.
I know, here's one. Here's one that was not murder
for hire. Well, sorry, knocking over lamps. This one was
not murder for hire. There was a woman that my
mother worked with. My mom was a speech pathologist. This
is going back early in her career. I'm gonna say
it's the seventies. The only reason I know this story
is my dad told me they were at a party
and nobody he really liked her husband. He made people uncomfortable,
and he was always like moody, and he would sort
of snap at her at parties and stuff, and he
wanted a diet coke or an iced tea and they
didn't have it, and he was really going on about
it to the point where my father left the party
and went and got it well a couple months. A
year later, she goes missing, missing. No one can find
her nothing. Did I tell you the story right now? Now
Okay can't find her, no one knows where she is.
She's missing. He goes on living, blah blah blah. I
don't know if they had children or not. I don't
think they did. He dies. I think he got cancer
and died. They're going through the house. They were doing
a renoan, a renovation, and he had built a fake
wall and stuff wrapped her body up in plastic. He
had killed her and stuck her behind a fucking wall. Like,
how good of a fucking liar are you? If I
when I was a kid, I ate a couple of
grapes at a shopwrit or something, and I remember crying
because I thought I stole. I never my buddy would
walk into this little tiny shit store that doesn't exist
anymore in Stanfordville, New York, as we used to call
it stan Stillville, and they would steal candy. I have
never never liked stealing at all. Right, And if I
ever thought I did, it, always ate in the back
of my brain, How the fuck can you murder your
wife and walk around and people going, Bob, what happened?
I don't She went out for a drive. I don't know.
And that's the part that I go, what in the
flip man? You gotta have something? How did he build it?
So there was I think, well, I think it was
just he and her. But great point because but.
Speaker 2: If there's stink, you got sure cops questioned him a
few times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess in the seventies the equipment wasn't that good.
We couldn't take the trail. Clearly, there weren't cameras like
you know what I'm saying here. You could say you
guys were last seen together Monday night walking out of Wegmans, right,
and they have security footage. There is your neighbor's ring
doorbell and at eight oh six pm you both walked in.
She's never left the house again, no ring doorbell and
never seen on security and her car is still here.
Where is she? Right? I mean, it just seems like
now maybe easier with technology than it was. And can
we go back to the good old kidding? Was it
you met a healthcare murder friar? Was it? Luigi? I
don't know, I am not I don't know. I did
not pay attention to Luigi at all. I told Jordan
that if they ever do a docu series on Luigi,
like a where you need actors, like they recreated the
oj stuff, Jordan's late Luigi because he kind of looks
like that guy. He's got the curly hair to me. Yeah,
and then I'll get on there, all right, We'll take
a moment and we're gonna talk to her. There's been
a lot of strange things. I'll try to find something.
But Deputy Hurley, who's come on here from the Monroe
County Sheriff often is also part of the dive team,
and he has been searching for a missing five year old.
We'll get the latest on that. We'll find out if
there's been murder for hire and how they forwarded that,
and I would love to know. And I don't know
that he can answer this, but some expert must have
a percentage of them that actually get carried through with
And what if you're the guy that they hired, like, wow,
fucking cold blooded? Are you go home?
Speaker 4: Hey, it's Friday, guys, Hey, kids lives compizza?
Speaker 1: How is work today? That wasn't it the mafia back
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Speaker 7: I feel like it was for a moment, but I
don't remember which one.
Speaker 1: Murder incorporated. We're talking about murder for hire because I
think I saw an exterminator, but it was a horn.
I just said, if it's alive, we'll kill it. But
it wasn't written on the side of the truck. It
was written in like street chalk was keyed into the
back of the card. I don't know. It was very
weird and it made me think of that. And then
we went down the rabbit hole talking about murder for
hire and Victoria Goodwin who had her ghost Adventure's husband
attempted to have him killed and she's going to get
a maximum of ninety months where three months already served
for being in jail for ninety two days. While all
this is is playing out, and not to be dark,
but our friend and one of my favorite people over
the podcast years, Deputy Hurley, who, by the way, I
saw yesterday at Canal Days and I got to tell
you it looked bad ass. Looked bad ass? You did
you walked by the studio. You look bad. You very focused,
very focused in the tournament. And then after the podcast
I went down by the canal to see if you
were there, but the boat was gone. I don't know
if you got called off on something.
Speaker 6: No, we were just trying to actively patrol. We didn't
want to just sit for too long and the spot, what.
Speaker 1: Is the what if for hire? You better put that
sign back up? Take him out? What is the By
the way, did you you took the family sign down?
Are you in a different room?
Speaker 6: No, I took it down.
Speaker 1: I why I love it. I always make fun of
those live laugh, love things like I need a reminder
and I used to get I'm gonna get you one
for your back. I should get one in here. It
would be funny, get us, get us floor. And it's
such a I have such an alcohol I really need
to get that. Uh So, DeBie Hurley, we let me
ask you a couple of things about No, No, it
was just you. I'm just trying to bring us there
we are. Uh I just wanted to talk to you
about festivals and the amount of work that we are
unaware of as citizens that goes into making everyone's good
time truly a good and safe time, because there's a lot,
like I know, the Fairport police were everywhere, and then
the sheriffs were on the waterways through the canal. There's
troopers out there. I would assume, maybe, maybe possibly there's
snipers somewhere. I don't know, and I certainly don't want
to scare people, but I do think it's important for
people to realize it's a lot of work and their
heads are on a swivel on these things.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of like the matrix in a way, right,
Like once your eyes are open and you see the
behind the curtain, you know, it's a whole different world.
And unfortunately that's the world we live in. Is that
anytime there's people gathering and having a good time like that,
that's our job to look at and go, Okay, well,
how could this go wrong? Or is this a target
for somebody who wants to do bad so and it's
our job to prevent that. So we have to think
of all those things, and all the assets that you
saw are great, and there's even more that you don't
see well, so that all these things can happen.
Speaker 1: I did see, and I'll just ask you. I assume
there's probably some people undercover, if you're saying asset. So
I saw two guys, big burly guys. One had a
nap like they both had camel shorts. One had a
backpack on and it looked like a camel backpack. Because
you can it looked like there was a straw that
came out. One did not. They both had baseball hats,
and I go, these are not Canal Day guys going
whoa Canala Days? Can't wait? You know what I mean?
That ain't them, That ain't them.
Speaker 6: You're looking at arts and crafts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly And and I go, they got to
be undercover. And I thought, wow, thank you, because yesterday
I was down here till about five thirty partaking in
the festival of Someone and I heard, I heard a
number of all the arts and crafts they had, the
Guinness arts and crafts I had. But I had people
say some guy goes man, this is the best Canal
Days ever. And there was a lot of live music
and things. And then I saw someone this morning, you
said to me, that was a huge crowd yesterday. So
thank you for keeping everybody organized it safe.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was a lot of people there yesterday. We
were there Friday night and there was a good amount
of people, but nothing like yesterday. Yesterday there was just
a ton a ton of people, and a group of
our people are still out there today. I did going
until what five o'clock I think today, So they're still
out there today doing the same thing. Not as good
a weather as yesterday, I don't think, but still not bad.
But yeah, it's a lot. It was a long day yesterday.
We were on the water from ten to ten just
trying to make sure everybody.
Speaker 1: Was was that. Did you pull a twelve hour shift?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Wow? When all the agencies come together like this is
these like you guys volunteering to not be paid, but
are you guys volunteering at work to do this is
just a normal shift for you guys, Like hey, Saturday,
you're going to be out here versus doing road patrol
kind of scenario. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean most of it's specialized teams like the scuba team.
They pull those people and our guys and girls were
all people who aren't currently working the road, so you
don't have the backfill and the overtime created by that.
So you got to be a little creative with this
stuff because again, you don't want it to be a
huge cost, which is it's always the problem. You want
the best coverage you can get, but you also don't
want the taxpayers to have to pay through, you know,
through the teeth for it. So it's always somebody who's
higher up on the chain and gets paid more than
I do. Who figures that stuff out? You could have.
Speaker 1: Done there's another tragedy and you are part of the
dive team. I don't forgive me for my ignorance on
this story a little bit, but when I see these things,
I just can't bring myself to read about them. I
know a young boy, five year old boy went missing,
believed to have fallen in the river or maybe families
saw that. I don't know the circumstances as to what happened.
Maybe you can kind of give us the backstory on that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, my understanding is young mom walking with the kids,
one in a stroller, one one walking, and the five
year old just got up ahead and you know, before
she could do anything, just went up and over the
railing and into the river and then possibly over the falls.
That's what they're trying to figure out now, is where
where he is. And you know, it's there's a lot
of science to drownings, and you know, with moving water
like that, the waterfalls, there's just so many moving parts
of what could or couldn't have happened, you know, you know,
with the strength of the falls, it creates almost like
for lack of a better term, like like a cyclone
or a backwash, and it could hold a body right there,
which is why you saw they shut down the falls
so that they could get in there and scan, you know,
all the bridges, the gates, the banking or the bridge embankments,
all that stuff. With that moving water could push the
body up against the you know, the ports, the concrete
embankment and and just keep the body right there, which
would make it real hard to find too.
Speaker 1: Is it has the dive team been out in those
waters and.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know rpd's been searching since the day it happened,
you know, with their side scan sonar. And you know,
the quick way to explain that is just basically it's
it's sonar, right, you tow it behind the boat and
it sends out, it sends out noise, and then the
noise comes back and it gives you an accurate mapping
of the waterway. It kind of looks like an ultrasound.
You know, you're you're looking and just trying to judge
all the little lines and see what there is, hoping
to see a human shape something or but you know,
any anomaly that you see, you would dive on and
just check to make sure it's not somebody.
Speaker 2: Have you guys come across searching for a soul like
that and found something else that you didn't think you
were going to come across, like another body short or
something like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we go out and we train and
we try to get as proficient as we can with
the side with the site scan. And there's been times
where we've just been going down the river, like up
by Black Creek boat Launch and you know you'll be
going towards Scottsville, and we came across the sunken boat,
you know, like a rowboat or something like that, but
we weren't expecting to find it, and then just all
of a sudden, there it is. It popped up. But
it's it's a very long process.
Speaker 1: But water it's got to be us. We have hard
to look through. I mean, it's it's murky and right.
I mean it's clearly it's dark down there, but it's moving.
There's a current to it, so there's sediment and things
just floating around. I remember science, Yeah, so you know it.
Speaker 6: The first thing we always tell people our scuba team
is not what you think of when you think of scuba, right,
it's not pretty fish and clear warm water. It's usually
the exact opposite. Sometimes you're lucky if you can see
your hand in front of your face. So mostly you're
you're searching blind to your point. Yeah, So if the
water's flowing, what you want to do is you want
to go upstream and then as you come back downstream,
all that settlement's going to be moving with you, so
it clears up a little bit better. How we had
a search last year in the canal where it was
like that. It was probably about six feet of visibility,
which is amazing for the canal, and you know, swimming
upstream you just couldn't see anything. I'm sorry, swimming downstream
you couldn't see anything. Swimming upstream as the settlement was
going away from you, it was it was very clear.
Speaker 2: How deep are you looking at down in the falls
area there? How deep did the river get down there?
Speaker 6: I'm not sure we were so RPD searched there, and
I don't want to steal their credit for the great
job that they do. They searched by the falls. We
were searching downriver more towards like the mouth, back up
to about what is it called Turning Point Park or whatever. Okay,
so we were searching there. So it hits about twenty
five feet down where we were. I don't know where
how deep the falls get.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean just a real tragedy and an awful
lot of work that goes into that. And you don't
even think about these kinds of things you know day
to day until as a citizen you need that aspect
of the police. Uh. We started out. I don't know
how to kind of segue. I was gonna say, trying
to change to a lighter, a lighter thing, but this
is we started out today. I was behind what I'm
assuming was a exterminator's truck. Well I couldn't tell because
it looked like a spider man spider web. And then
it was written, I swear in chalk on either a
wooden or iron piece put on top of the tailgates
that says, if it's alive, we'll kill it. And I
started to think of this, but then I went, what
if they're one of those people like, hey, you know
it covers as an exterminator because we hear about murder
for higher murder for whatever, and I and I wonder,
have you guys ever thwarted these. I went immediately and
I google like murder for higher There's two stories in
the last three days. It's both people who were being sentenced.
One of them is the woman who was the Ghost
Adventures guy, but she watched a documentary about a murderer
who's doing a life sentence and she contacted the guy.
He goes, hey, can you help? Like, holy shit, that
wasn't the point of the dock. But either way, I'm thinking, like,
you know, we only hear about the ones that are prevented.
We don't hear about the ones that were not prevented.
And some people probably are. You know, for two thousand bucks,
you can get somebody's breaks to go and right into
the canal and over and whatever. Have you Guys ever
thwarted something like that intercepted that you know of?
Speaker 6: I want to say, yes, I can't think of any
off the top of my head, but I want to
say in the almost twenty years I have been doing this,
they have had some I've seen a lot of stories
and it's a very common thing. A lot of people fall.
They see it online or they email somebody, or you know,
maybe they just call the number on the truck. That's
going down the road, and you know, the guy answers
and says, hey, we don't really don't do bugs. I
don't know oh yeaheah, I can't think of any off
the top.
Speaker 1: That's all right. I just it's an odd thing because again,
if it doesn't get stopped, we don't know what it was.
It's just an accident that took someone's life. And you know, meanwhile,
and I go, god, just I mean, I'm even thinking
that this Ghost Adventures guy, his wife is getting ex
wife now thirty six to ninety months in prison for
being an accessory to the murder. That's the maximum she
could get his ninety with ninety two days, so three
months already served, so at the maximum, and she probably
won't get it eighty seven months. That's like five years.
I'd be walking on eggshells. That bitch gets all right,
is it? Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah, yah yeah, all right
to be kindergarten. Yeah, sorry, my math was a little off. Well,
I'm just thinking, like you maybe get good behavior. I'm gone,
I think the maximum on this would be five years
that she actually serves that. That That's what I'm saying.
You're right, though, I did it sounds no, no, no, it
is because I kept thinking, like, I go, well, you
probably if they're taking off the ninety two days and
you behave yourself in there, sometimes they just want to
get you back out. Prisons are crowded. I don't know,
but yes, eighty my math, it'll cost money. Yeah, it
costs money to put people in there.
Speaker 6: Right, But I mean think about that. What's good behavior?
She doesn't try to have somebody else killed them while
she's in prison, Like I don't know, I want someone dead.
She tried to kill the person she's supposed to love
most in the world.
Speaker 1: Right because she was lonely. It was emotional loneliness, that's
what it said. That was her reason.
Speaker 6: And he was always taken half, but she owned all
of it or how many five percent depending on what
state she lives in.
Speaker 1: Greedy. Oh yeah, that's true. I didn't even think of
that all right, any other fun things in your life,
I mean, yesterday seem like it. While nice, it's work.
You're on the water, You're you're watching for you know,
boaters who are behaving themselves. You're keeping an eye on
things happening on the land. That's that's a lot of work.
What what fun things do you have going on anything?
Speaker 6: Huts. Today is just a relaxing around the house, get
the yard mode, you know, spend some time with the
family after being gone all day yesterday. So today is
a good fun thing.
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 2: What's what's the best bribe somebody's tried to hit you with?
On the water, you were like, yeah, I'm not doing that,
but there's there has to be somebody something.
Speaker 1: I mean that must have the water.
Speaker 6: I mean during traffic stops and all those other things.
Everything you can imagine, people have offered, you know, they
offer anything they can to try to get out of
a speeding ticket, which is always comical.
Speaker 1: That is pretty funny. The I'm thinking on the water,
have you ever had to board somebody's boat for for.
Speaker 6: I personally haven't I know our God, no.
Speaker 1: I I know the coast Guard had helped me out
on on a boat.
Speaker 6: Yeah. We have our marine unit. We have we have
guys and girls that that's all they do is they
run the boats. So that's who does that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: We can, but not winners off because there'll always be
some yahoo he Kevin goes, but there's always that one
guy that goes Hey, take the boat out. It's January
and it's sixty degrees today. Let's go.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Are so most of our marine unit as part timers,
so they're usually retired either like firemen or police officers,
so they can they only work seasonal anyway, so it
works out well for them. But it's a pretty sweet gig.
Speaker 1: Yeah with his you know you're out on the water.
Speaker 6: Three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of nice. Well, Deputy Hurly, I appreciate it.
You looked bad ass yesterday, very focused right there, you did.
You looked like I was like, oh, I'm be on
my best behavior. The code workout for you guys.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Oh good. Yeah, but we appreciate Yeah, I'm sure it
was a long day and we appreciate you taking some
time to talk to us today. And I'll let you
get back to family and chores because that sounds like
a lot of fun, really awesome.
Speaker 6: Next time we'll have to talk about all the crazy
stuff we find when we scuba dive.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would love to hear that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, about the head I pulled out, what we
recovered a person hung themselves and yeah, someone had to
bring the head out of the canal, and that was me,
that was you. That's an interesting that's an interesting one. Yeah.
You asked a while back, like what the craziest thing
I ever did? And that's got to be up there
pretty high.
Speaker 1: Carry like a bullet Where carry like a bullet ball?
Where was the rest of the body floating tree down
the canal?
Speaker 6: That's how we got notified. Uh, fishermen found it and
thought because it was near Halloween that it was just
like a Halloween decoration or kids messing around, and it
was not.
Speaker 1: So someone had hung themselves in there a while ago,
and so that the body like it just.
Speaker 6: No, it was it was we're guessing within you know,
within twelve hours of when it was found. So yeah,
I shouldn't laugh, that's your face.
Speaker 1: But if you can't laugh all the time, if you
can't laugh at it, you know, that's the stuff that
haunts you. Wow, that is some heavy stuff, dude.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that you're absolutely right, Like that's it's medicine, right,
It's that's how you cope. It's a coping mechanism. You you
laugh and you make little jokes.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 6: To keep you from you know, getting too sad or
thinking about it too much. So that's a lot. Like
all first responders have a little bit of a dark
sense of humor, right, and it's just a it's just
a coping mechanism to get through. But yeah, pulling pulling
just a head out of the canal was definitely ah
interesting experience. Oh I hope you got bonus, we got pizza.
Speaker 1: Oh there you go, well fellas right, oh god, Well,
on that note, we will let you enjoy the rest
of your day. Don't think about that story ever again
for today, at least today, at least today, try to
get it out. But every time we talk to you,
I like these things because it shows how hard that
job is and why first responders of all types, but
especially the police need to have our respect and are
here to work with. It's not against us.
Speaker 6: You know. I think that's important. All right, thank you guys.
Speaker 1: Thank you sir. Have a great rest of your weekend.
You as well, the thanks. Oh yeah, I forget he
coaches as well. Yeah, Like, God, can you imagine do
you care like a bowling ball? Do you go home?
Do you get to the do you get to the
shore and toss it like a chest pass? God? What
do you go home and say how's worked today. Well,
you won't believe this. I got head, you know, in
the bottom of the It's like, I'm just trying to
figure out how the head came off, thinking, what did
you hang yourself with fishing ware? I don't know. I
don't know, because there's a lot unless you jumped off
of a bridge and it and it just decapitated as
you went down. I don't know. I can't. I don't
even want to think of we will will take a moment. Uh.
Scott mag Calf was a legendary hockey player around here,
and in the early nineties his second kind of second
go around here, he won the Calder Cup. I think
he won two maybe in his career, but I just
remember the ninety six Can we have you dress up
as a pirate? He did? Hung you from a crane
and have people beat the pirate. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And when I won the Cup, the whole town got
strap got strapped.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh huh, whole city. So but Scott was a
huge personality, a beloved, beloved guy. And I think and
we'd like to kind of pay a little respect. I
believe somewhere Kevin I have his appearance on an old
brother we show, but I don't know where it is
and I would have played it. I don't know if
I'm allowed to. I probably would get some pushback, but hey,
it's only hey. Uh so we'll if I find that
I would, I would. I would play it. But just
an interesting and fun guy who loved loved a good time.
And we will talk to his assistant coach Kevin he
was the coach and Scott was the assistant. Metcalf was
the assistant. That would be intimidating to me a sun tea.
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SCOTT metcalp i was just thinking about him as we're.
COMING on i last. SAW him i was on The
radio god How to be like maybe two three. Years
ago just a larger than, life personality always so, much
fun always had time, for you talk. To you and
he was one of those people that you'll read books
like books on how to be a, better, person right
and they, Go all i'll, say this all you remember
about a person is how they made. You feel it
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always at.
Speaker 2: The rink there could be there could be a high
school game with a thousand people on the, one side
and he's running practice in this side and.
Speaker 1: Over everything you.
Speaker 2: Can still, Hear, him yeah just talking and yelling and
bellowing and laughing and, goofing, Around.
Speaker 1: Right and he had such a big person In that,
canadian ACCENT and i, was, like wow He always but
what they'll say is if you want to make the
person you're talking to feel like the most important person in.
The room. SCOTT really i know it's unfortunate that we
say all these things after someone, has passed because it
feels like it gets to be a. Little crazy but
he was, exactly that and.
Speaker 2: Our guests can probably tell us a few times that
that didn't happen with a, few referees a few.
Speaker 1: Local referee, and hey look he was. The guy we
got a story yesterday from Somebody about metcalf being told
by a coach not to go. After somebody some guy,
kept like and, they, go look we're down to a
certain number. Of people no one can get. A penalty
no one can get, a penalty and so the guy
gave him two, cheap Shots and, metcalf said, NEXT time i.
See it and then the next time he got out
there and right away just level. THE guy i think.
He had we had his penalty. Minutes yesterday it, was
crazy the abount of penalty minutes. He yet but with
more on all that Is Coach, Terry, Fisher, hello terry
how are? You good how? Are you we're. Doing well
it's a weird thing because it's NOT somebody I expected
friday afternoon to have what they call him push alerts
come to my phone from the local news Saying That
scott metcalf had left, the planet so. To speak AND
then i saw something from his SON that i think
Posted On scott's facebook, page, saying oh this, was sudden
and thanks for all the outpouring and we'll let you
know what's. Going on but what was your experience? With
him because you. Knew HIM as i Said, to kevin
who set this up and knows you you were the,
head coach he was the assistant that would make. Me uncomfortable,
i'm sorry and DID am? I wrong it's a.
Speaker 8: Good example of the kind Of person.
Speaker 5: Scott, was sure, You know so we are our youngest
grew up playing, Hockey, together keegan and my Youngest was
cam and so way back when they were probably seven,
or eight we started coaching together and then we coached
them all through youth hockey until they, both played, you
know they both went played high, school hockey AND and
i think when we, FIRST started, I was i was.
EXTREMELY intimidated. I was he was sort of coming in,
and said, you know in, his voice.
Speaker 8: HE is i want you to still be the. Head
coach i'm just gonna, help out, You know and.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 8: He was he was very humble.
Speaker 5: That way and in that he just wanted to teach,
the kids, you know how to be, good kids how
to be, disciplined kids and, teach them teach them. Good
hockey and so he didn't he didn't really care about
the titles or. Anything else so at first it, Was
intimidating BUT once i got To know scott and the
kind of guy, who was IT just i think it worked.
Speaker 1: Really, well yeah that certainly sounds. Like him i'll, never
forget like during that whole call their cup run was
it ninety six, ninety six and HE was, i mean
he was out every night with. That CUP and i
don't know where you were during, that TIME but i
remember being at bars and seeing everybody drink out of
THIS and, i, go man that cup has turned into a.
Peatri dish people are going to. Get sick and, SURE
enough i just remember strap throat running. Through everybody, oh
yeah but he, was out like, you know just just
just partying and and. Doing that and he was so
much fun on the radio and such a. BIG personality,
i mean he just was one of those guys who
was larger. Than life.
Speaker 5: He was he was like that as a, coach too,
he WAS and i think he had a he had
a unique he had a.
Speaker 8: Unique coaching style with.
Speaker 5: The, kids so, you know, we STARTED like, i said
so when, we started the kids were seven, and eight
and then when they we were done they were, seventeen
eighteen and so throughout that, WHOLE time i think there
was there was.
Speaker 8: He was he probably had a, you know HE was
i think tough a on the.
Speaker 5: Kids than, you know THAN than i think more old,
school coaching WHICH which, i loved but it WAS all
i think at first even sometimes they kids, were, like
wow this guy is sort of tough, on me and
he's he's sort. Of loud but then they realize he's,
not yelling that's just that's just a better and he's
he's trying to make you a. Better person so THEY
they i think a lot of the kids that played
for him now are looking back, and, like.
Speaker 8: Yeah he was you know.
Speaker 6: He was he was a.
Speaker 5: Good coach he did it a, different way but but
he he got through, to me made me a, you
know a.
Speaker 1: Better person how are how are your kids doing with
this with? This news having had played for him and
it sounds like he coached for about a decade, with, you.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah they're doing that's that's my my youngest who
who uh who who was on these teams was the
one who texted me like as soon as it happened.
Speaker 8: And they're they're. DOING okay i think.
Speaker 5: It was it, was yeah just extremely like surprising, AND
shocking i think to. TO everybody i think a bunch
OF the i got a bunch of texts from from hockey,
parents saying, you know, you know just just, you know
starting to think about. You guys it's it's, really uh,
you know. SAD news i got a TEXT from i
think he put the BEST way. I wanted the one
of the other guys we used to coach with for
a while Was Uh dave williams From. The sabers actually
his son played with us for a while and he
was he knew matter from uh from from from hockey,
as well but, he said. Uh yeah they said it
just a real tough one and they kind of stings.
A BIT and i think it. WAS stinging i think
it was no one expected it and, it was uh.
Speaker 8: It was. It was it was a.
Speaker 5: Rough ONE but i think a lot of the kids
are sort of, thinking back trying to remember the.
Speaker 8: Good times it's.
Speaker 2: A testament though, to you and and and, to him
and and and a lot of the youth coaches, out
there that you've got a team that you guys kept
together for. Ten years it, doesn't happen especially in this
area with, youth hockey it doesn't happen. VERY often, I
know i'm fairly Lucky with. Tyler's team he's. Been together
they're going on, you know seven or eight at. This
point and, you know kids come and go and come.
And go but when you get a core that just
stays together and they're friends. For life, you know this
is how many years since the kids have stopped playing
hockey and they're still talking to each other and still.
Speaker 1: Reaching out, and yeah it's it's a nice thing when you.
Speaker 2: Got the right coaches and the coaches that are teaching
not on them to, be men but teach them hockey.
As well you know that that definitely helps out a
lot as.
Speaker 1: Well, TOO yeah i wish my kid had a coach.
Like MATTER sometimes i was, more, like uh what what do?
YOU remember i guess about him in, terms of, you
know we'll hear all the, glowings things but as as,
a coach where there any moments where like he just
had a where's that? Best, referee meltdown go sit down on. The,
bench please you're gonna. Get us you're gonna get the
whole team.
Speaker 5: Kicked out he was actually very he was almost he
was always very respectful of. THE refs, i think being
a player at a, high level knew that they were
out there doing a.
Speaker 8: Job TOO and i think we were both.
Speaker 5: At ways WE both i think any, coach would, you
know sort of being both, competitive guys would would would.
Speaker 8: Sort of probably want to take some some comments to the.
Speaker 5: Refs BACK but i think overall we were pretty we
were pretty we were pretty fair.
Speaker 8: WITH that i think he was he was very as,
you know he was.
Speaker 5: Very vocal and the ONE thing i think the kids
probably remember, is that, you know he was very very
loud on the, bench too not even and he. Wasn't
yelling that's just the way, matter was, you know his,
you know, skate skate. YOU know i think the kids
had that sort of ingrained in their in, their MINDS
and i think it's, sort of, you know almost like training.
A dog i think they hear that and they'd, be.
Speaker 1: Like OH was i just?
Speaker 8: Coasting around i'm not supposed to be.
Speaker 5: DOING that i think he had a way of getting through,
to him but he, was yeah and just a just
a because he.
Speaker 8: Played at such a, high level such a such a such.
Speaker 5: A competitor AND so i think even though we were
training the boys to be, good men, good teammates, you
know good, hockey players, we were he was always very,
competitive too always pushing to that we're here, to win,
you know we're Here to we're here to play, and win,
have fun but also let's let's do our best to
try to get the.
Speaker 1: W same wy, KNOW what i hate to even. ASK
that I guess, i SHOULDN'T but i know there's a
curiosity to what may, have HAPPENED and i guess it
does you, KNOW what I guess the bottom line is it,
doesn't matter but it does look like there will be
some kind of memorial service. Or something do you know
anything about that?
Speaker 5: At ALL or i, Don't YET and i imagine that'll
that'll that info. Come out, SURE well i reached out
and just via text and texted, His, son keegan who's
the one WHO who i, coached to and he wrote
a very nice. Note BACK so i imagine loads of
people are wondering that it's gonna be they may even
do it at a larger venue just.
Speaker 1: BECAUSE it's i think you got to do It At Blue.
Cross arena to be quite honest, with you you almost
feel like they may and you could show some highlights on.
The jumbo it just seems, appropriate, because uh not having
grown up playing hockey and not really knowing much about.
THE sport i Came to Rochester And Saint John fisher
college in the early nine and my roommate's dad WAS
the Gm Of upstate milk and had box seats at
the emarcks end At, the sabers AND so i got introduced.
To hockey and then right, after that being on, THE
radio i got to meet the personalities hoccy Players and, I'm,
like wow these guys, are awesome awesome and tough as tough.
As nails. You know that's the. Other, thing, WELL yeah
i can't imagine what is his kids. And all, you
know when when it's sudden, Like that not that it
makes it any easier one way or, the other but
there is something when there's preparation versus, you know just
out of, the blue it, seems, like.
Speaker 5: Yeah certainly certainly feel for, their family. You Know Jane
hegan Quinn. AND tanner I know tanner had just finished
up med school is onto. HIS residency, I know i
know his DAUGHTERS in vet school and good friends with,
our friends so that they're their their kids are doing,
really WELL and i just had to had to REALLY
and i know.
Speaker 8: That was that.
Speaker 5: WAS part i think he he was he was always,
you know tough on.
Speaker 8: THEM too i think, you know he was like he
was tough with.
Speaker 5: The kids he wanted the best out of, them too
and and, and they, uh yeah they're just a.
Speaker 6: Great.
Speaker 1: FAMILY yeah I think i remember met her saying something
that one of my kids is gonna be that way smarter.
THAN me i, don't know it Sounds like meta's kid's
a doctor who would, have, thought.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah and he was actually.
Speaker 5: He was he was often toughest on on, his Own,
on keegan, you know on on the bench. And stuff
just Just h AND when i, SAY toughest i mean
you could, do better, you know like sort of, you
know trying to get the best out.
Speaker 8: Of him so, uh yeah. He didn't.
Speaker 5: He didn't he didn't save anything For. For keegan he
was he was the same WITH and i think that's another.
Good thing and the kids saw. That too he wasn't
he didn't. Have favorites and that's another Thing that SCOTT and.
I did i think we were early on we re
realized even though him playing at the level, he did,
he realized most time these kids playing youth, youth hockey
they're they're, supreme hockey, you know goal they're gonna playing
high school hockey in front of. Their friends and so
what we did was we WE and i know it's
many coaches don't do, this now but and we had
some pretty. Competitive teams we played all. The kids we
trained them so we could we could. Play them they
weren't all the, same levels and there of course were,
you know kids who were who were, better on but
it wasn't just like those.
Speaker 8: Kids played.
Speaker 5: Everybody PLAYED and i THINK that i think they appreciated.
Speaker 1: That, Too yeah i'm sure. They DID and i think
sometimes what is seeing now as maybe too tough or,
TWO whatever i think underneath all that was a tremendous amount. Of,
love yeah, you KNOW and I and i think sometimes
that that gets mistaken because you're only that passionate about
what you care about. The MOST and i grew up
as SOMEBODY who i, DON'T know i needed a kick in,
the ASS and i do certain people were the right
people to. Do THAT and i always knew it came
with a wink and a smile and a hug on
the side instead of. The other and so, you know it's, unfortunate,
that uh we're here talking about him this WAY because
i think it would be Something that i'd love to
say to. His face you know what what what? An
impact and when you talk, about people hey live life to.
The Fullest, COACH fisher i don't KNOW that i knew
anybody They Called, jody Gage. MISS jeremer i would call Him. Mister,
ROCHESTER yeah i mean he was he lived it to
the every moment you were, with him he was, just
hey having a.
Speaker 8: Great time and so it was it was during the
during the.
Speaker 5: HOCKEY season i mean, we would, you know with, you
know a few practices a week and. Then games you're
seeing each other almost, every day and it was it
was very rare when he came to their rink that
he was in a, bad mood, you know and SO
and i think it was like that all the. Time
TOO but i mean i'd even be, you know had a.
Bad day he was good at sort of putting that out,
and hey we're here to. Teach hockey let's, you know let's.
Have fun and, YOU know i think he, was uh
he had the. Right, attitude yeah he.
Speaker 1: DID well i appreciate your time and uh in talking.
To Us and i'm sure there'll be many more memories
shared over the over. The TIME And i i'm interested
to see how you have a memorial service for someone.
THAT big, i mean the personality a loan was bigger
Than The Blue. Cross ARENA, but, i, uh YEAH and
I and i'm sure your kids and his kids and
all are really. Really lucky and yet at the same time,
said right, SO.
Speaker 8: Yeah i think.
Speaker 5: YOU'RE right i think that'll be it'll be. Well attended
there'll be there'll be loads of kids who grew up
being coached by by matter who WHO who i know,
are there even if they're still not in, the area
they'll they'll come back.
Speaker 3: For.
Speaker 1: That, YEAH WELL i i appreciate. Your time thank you,
Very much.
Speaker 8: Thank you thanks for. Having me you.
Speaker 6: Got, it, THANKS coach i Guess Thanks.
Speaker 1: Coach fisher, all right, we, will uh we'll take. A
break we'll lighten things up a. Little bit it's been
a lot of murder. For, HIRE sorry i. Didn't know
talk a couple of. Dick jokes you're gonna to get
drunk one of. The two, All, right well here's the,
thing is we've had this debate going going on over
who would be a, Better date Doug, or mark and
then somebody stepped up saying they'd be willing to take
it go on a date with each. Of them, and
uh desperate is? THIS girl i. DON'T know i think
she likes a listener to. THE podcast i think is going.
Strictly on this, sounds, terrible right because what do you
say about somebody that you're not interested in physically they
have a, Great, personality YES and i think these guys
do have nice personalities that you. Know Moments but kevin
is trying to push. Something on i'm not trying To
push you pushed, It, Yourself no And so kevin Had
really kevin has CAST chat gpt about best first date options. For, me,
yeah okay so. We, will uh we'll see WHAT chat
gpt says. ABOUT that i Love that kevin does this.
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Speaker 3: Hi yah on the knees, The stones i'm dead and
the houses long And.
Speaker 1: Home russian through, the cool not in.
Speaker 6: On nothing but.
Speaker 1: The weed nothing but. The Wheel That's peter woolf with
a little Help For Mick jaggers tomboddy leah, see, YEAH
okay i was waiting for you to rip on it
or kill me on it. OR something i do love
this song to Use me no to nothing but. The
wheel you could call chat chy. Peat, now yeah fifteen
minutes a month you. Get free it's for the old
people who don't have. Cell phones do you think?
Speaker 6: It?
Speaker 1: Is how why would why would you call chatchypet if
you've got a. CELL phone i, don't KNOW or I.
COULD peter i, don't know because because you can get
the app on your phone and you can talk into
the app right talking to the, phone too maybe. IT'S
easy i. Don't know so we'd CALL chat gpt and
see what the get our fifteen minutes and. See, what
uh let's see what. Happens, Here.
Speaker 9: Hi I'M chat GPT an. Ai assistant just so, you
know our conversation may be reviewed. For safety by continuing,
this call you agree to open a eyes terms and.
Privacy policy so HOW can i help? You today what
do we?
Speaker 1: Want? You? Oh no can you tell me a joke
based on the following? Two, cops okay two cops are
on the canal and one cop says to the other
You Like. JOHN hyatt.
Speaker 9: I, don't KNOW but i bet it's a. Good one
what does the other?
Speaker 1: Cops say i'm asking you to finish? The joke can you? Write?
Speaker 9: It sure let's give it. A go so the first,
cop says do you like? The canal the second, cop,
REPLIES no i prefer the. Sarge end.
Speaker 1: That's actually kind of stupidly funny in a way, All,
right well thank YOU. Chat gpt.
Speaker 9: You're WELCOME glad i could give you a chuckle.
Speaker 1: Bye bye that is fucking freaky. AS shit I think
i was saying that while they were. Still there that, is. Freaky,
right yeah gotta be careful with, jazz though because any might.
Get reviewed don't ask for murder? For hire WHO can i,
uh uh, mister moran this is a robot shows up.
The door, it's weird right because it sounds like a.
PERKY personality i mean. Clearly not you can tell it's
automated in, some way but, still yeah like knows when
you're talking it. Stops talking you know it's fake thing
because that woman never. Stops talking it's so. Freaking strange
that is. Really FREE like I wish i was a.
Speaker 5: LITTLE more.
Speaker 1: I wish i was a little more savvy or PREPARED
because i would find things that we could CALL chat. Gpt,
about well.
Speaker 2: You've got probably thirteen to fourteen more minutes of, this, MONTH.
Speaker 1: Yeah, i know so another episode we will call and
ask it like a. Serious thing most OF what, i
understand the large scale language models only, go back like
MAYBE chat gpt can only find things through twenty, Twenty
three so it's not going to give you. Accurate FACTS
because i even had Something about Trump and ELON and
i was trying to go. THROUGH it, i, go oh
maybe chet gipto know and it says the. Former president
well that's because they're not up to date that he
is also the. Current president so the large. Language models
but think about all the stuff. THAT'S there i don't
have any FEAR. Of AI maybe, i should, You know
i'm not saying like, replacing me but who knows what
what's going to happen in. The FUTURE but i think
it's such a great way to polish. Up things or
if you're really pissed off at somebody and you want
to fire off, an email, write it write it in
that thing and then, you know ASK chat gpd to
take this and change the tone, or whatever and it.
Will quickly we. Did it we did It with.
Speaker 2: Sam's resume he took a resume CLASS and i, Don't
know he's like this teacher professor is like, world Renowned and,
i'm like this is literally the Worst resume i've ever
seen in. My, Life wow and we had chat cept
spice it up and you got yoah not yet, But No,
but okay we.
Speaker 1: HAD chat gpt kinda just clean.
Speaker 2: Up everything, I'M like I don't i shouldn't have to
rely ON chat gbt for my kid's resume.
Speaker 1: When you're taking. A, CLASS no i, would, think like what? The?
Hell what, i'm like what? Is this what was what was?
Wrong with just? Worded? Horribly okay but is that? Your
kid or the he said turned the resume in so
he got greater? On, it, yeah okay what did? HE
get i. Didn't ask it could be. The kid i'm
just saying it. Could be and a resume last sounds boring?
As hell god doesn't it. SOUNDS painful i would stab.
Myself OUT oh i go TO chet gpt just get
it all. Over with, you know that would be the
well what if they run this RESUME through? Ai detector,
i'm like you're not. Your, resume yeah this is giving you, better,
words exactly better synergy versus. Working together you got. It
exactly and it should be seen as a tool to
make you more efficient and get. You on it's not to.
Replace things and then and sometimes if you're looking, for
ideas it's a great, Idea, starter yeah a great way
to get get. Different things or if you're looking for first. Date,
ideas uh maybe there's There's that. Kevin Thing so, i'm
gonna at some point in my history have A Rendezvous.
Randevou randyvo she is the person that cuts my Hair
and kevin has put INTO. CHAT gpt, i.
Speaker 2: Said write me, a descriptive romantic and erotic plan for
a first date between wait. Erotic plan romantic and erotic
plan for a.
Speaker 1: First, DATE okay i want to hear WITH. Chat gpt
it didn't kick it back saying we can't do. The
erotic i'd be happy to help you write a romantic. First, date. Okay,
romantic see here's a thoughtful And memorable here's to a
thoughtful and. Memorable. Evening okay the date begins the local.
Art gallery the evening Exhibition opening blank and blank stroll
through the intimate space is discussing the paintings, and sculptures sharing,
their interpretations and discovering each other's perspective on beauty. And, creativity, actually,
okay see here's the bad PART is i would, love
THAT but i would not do that as a first date.
WITH anybody i would. Be. Weird right the soft lighting
and quiet conver stations create natural opportunities for. Meaningful, connection
well there is, there's that, You know but it would
also be like they got to be, into art. DON'T
they i. Don't know i've gone on a first date
in twenty.
Speaker 2: Some years here's where it goes off the, RAILROF raid i.
Speaker 1: Can't wait after the, air.
Speaker 2: Calery they walk to a cozy wine bar with exposed
brick walls and. CANDLELIT tables i. Like that they share
a bottle of, wine yeah and a selection of.
Speaker 1: Artisanal cheeses, uh huh talking.
Speaker 2: About, their, dreams travels and what. Inspires them the warm
atmosphere encourages them to lean closer as, they speak hands
occasionally touching across the.
Speaker 1: Small table as the, evening progresses they take a moonlit
stroll through a nearby. Botanical garden this all sounds like
a really. Nice date, it does even for. A guy
i'll drink wine and but it would have to be
like my, PERSONALITY is i, DON'T know i. Got it
i'd have to, loosen up but have to. Be funny
i'd have to poke fun at the people. Around us
i'd have to put like a the a towel over
my arm and pretend to POUR and i can't. DO
it i can't.
Speaker 2: Do it you're walking through with a potanacle garden where
string lights illuminate whinding paths and between fragment fragment. Flower
beds they find a secluded beach near a fountain where
they sit, close together the sound of water creating a
romantic backdrop as they share stories and.
Speaker 1: Laugh together there's a. Laughing yeah the date concludes with
walking to, her door where they'd linger, in conversation reluctant
for the evening. To end there's a moment of anticipation
as they stand close before sharing a tender first kiss
under the. Porch light this type of date.
Speaker 2: Allows for, genuine conversation, beautiful surroundings and natural moments of
closeness that can happen to build a.
Speaker 1: Romantic connection huh house a lot of my, first dates
but in the past sometimes there's just your romantic porcelat on.
HER knees.
Speaker 4: I.
Speaker 1: Don't know woke up the, next morning WHERE am? I
okay i could see that AS a i would, even
say as for anybody to just take your wife and,
do that she'd freaking, love it you KNOW what. I
mean if she's into art. And stuff but what a.
Different idea. THAT'S cool i would you've got all, That here.
Speaker 2: You've got You've Got soderburgh Gardens, in canandagua you got
artists and works by The.
Speaker 1: Comedy, club, yeah, YEAH yeah i. WAS thinking i was
Thinking the Memorial. Art gallery You've Got. Canandagua, lake, yeah
oh You. Got ontario might smell a, little funny but that's.
All right the lake or, THE girl I, don't, YEAH
there i can see myself, doing THAT and, i have,
you know somebody, I'd like i'd love to do, That
WITH but i. Don't like i'm not pushing that one.
Right now i'm not. Doing anything i'm not. DOING anything
i know you had great pleasure in.
Speaker 3: Doing.
Speaker 1: It, OH absolutely i did a drunk so of course it.
Was funny you did a drunk half of my work for. This,
show yeah but, sometimes okay let's talk about this for.
A Second george carlin used to say that WHEN and
i think it was At The Assmen comedy fest he
was Winning The Lifetime achievement award or some some kind
of a lifetime award and he sat down and did
an Interview With john stewart Before The daily show before and,
he said you know, you're writing and. He goes and
THEN when i would go, punch up he said marijuana
was a HELPFUL thing i. WOULD take, i would, you
know puff puff. AND Go I sometimes i. Don't, KNOW
yeah i don't want to be somebody who is. Endorsing
stuff but when you look at some of the great
artists of the last, few centuries many of Them had
i'm not gonna say, an addiction but some of. Them.
Did uh some of them may have used mind altering
substances to. Do things look you go through and read
Anything About steve jobs and he talks about taking psychedelics
and how it opened. His mind maybe we certainly have
a different world because of. That guy i'm not sure
it's a better world all. The time but, his advancement
whether he made it, or not he was. Behind it
it was implemented by, you know implemented. By him but then, even,
yourself right don't you think like, You're funnier. You're looser
there's something looser. ABOUT you i don't know when YOU'RE
having i just have less Cares when. I'm, drinking well
THAT'S what. I MEAN and i Think like i'm. DEFINITELY looser.
I funny i remember My Friend beth donahue telling me
once like, she's like, you KNOW when i, Was younger,
she's like you'll never be a great comic because you
care too much about what people think and do and
say and how the. REACTION is i took That to harton,
AND thought i NEVER thought i, really DID but I guess,
i do and and, she's, right like you really have
to just not. Care Enough Like, gilbert godfreed he had.
To be he just had to, not care knew what he,
was doing knew what he. Was saying did the nine to,
eleven joke, YOU know i interviewed, him once talked about being.
Kicked off he was opening up for The, go gos
who at the time were moms and their tween daughters
coming out to the show and they have him and he,
JUST goes i can't do it other night of this
and he just went absolutely blue filthy and got kicked off.
The tour you. Just can't those guys just. Don't care
and they're not. Mean people they just don't give. A
shit they see something, as funny, it's funny and they're.
USUALLY right i. DON'T know i Watched The dave chappelle
PIECE last i find a lot of shit that shouldn't. Be, Funny, FUNNY.
Speaker 2: Yeah, i mean, Like what i'll sit And play Beavis
and buttet with you at. The bar, Oh yeah we've
done that a million times and there's just no reason why,
it's funny but it's just it's, to me.
Speaker 1: It's. FUNNY yeah i think that there was a h prankster.
Speaker 2: Ship one of our first one of our first Episodes
of damien's we were sitting There playing Beavis and buttet
and what was funny to us wasn't funny to, everybody
else but it was funny.
Speaker 1: To us was That What?
Speaker 7: Cougar?
Speaker 1: Corner, YEAH yeah i was Talking About cougar. Corner yesterday
oh the OTHER day i was talking about and how
that all kind of blew up in her face or
blew up in? My face?
Speaker 6: Is?
Speaker 2: IT well i felt, apologized idea and YOU apologize.
Speaker 1: I did but here's the thing is when we taped,
the PODCAST and i do need to get a speaker
so people can hear us what's happening. OVER there i
think it'll, improve things but you couldn't. Hear us so
we were making fun of These Women, cougar corner AND
then i, said hey look. At THAT and i kept
thinking a big. Fat FRIEND and i was like they
always this guy comes in, and, he'say, hey hey but
they were. All friends we didn't. KNOW this i thought
he was hitting. On them and it was a bunch
of like. Somewhere single they looked a. Little while they
were From The. West side they, were drinking and he
started chatting up the heavy. SET one, i, go hey
you gotta work the big fat friend one. Of them
we pulled up. On stage so then they all listened
to hear. Their friend and they. Heard that and this
woman was. Very hurt and her son was good friends
with a radio personality. In town and that guy has
blocked ME here i don't. Know, who well that's the,
THING is i. Didn't care but HERE'S where i. Do
care HERE'S where i. DO care i. DON'T want i love, busting,
BALLS right i love making my, friends laugh but when
so saying these things which were hurtful things and wrong,
TO say i and getting the as my mother used,
to say it's not funding when you get a laugh
off somebody. Else's BACK but, i DID and i just
FELT like i was safe because she couldn't. Hear it
she didn't know what, was, HAPPENING right i FEEL like
i was the one who. Started it ignorance, Is bliss.
YEAH probably i think you Named It. COUGAR corner I usually.
Speaker 2: I'm the one that shit starts, at first and then
you take the you take the. SHIT storm i need
to like to.
Speaker 1: Run, it well it's just it's just. Just fun it's.
Just fun it's just what. We do but. That, did
yeah that came Back. To haunt that was one that
did come Back. To haunt they did not, like THAT
and i felt TERRIBLE and i wrote the person because they,
wrote ME and i wrote them BACK what i thought
was a, very nice NON chat gpt. Verified apology and then,
AFTER that, I think i guess PRE chat gpt couldn't USE. Chat,
gpt yeah it was how long HAS chat gpt? Been
around and now they got a. Phone number i'm loving
that you.
Speaker 2: CAN call i, don't KNOW but i feel like that
was that was within the first like probably a couple
of that was within the first month of us doing.
Speaker 1: The show, oh yeah probably because it Was the bill's. Playoff. Game,
yeah ye back in the days Of The. Kitchen. TABLE
baby i, CAN'T well i gotta say it's been a,
fun ride and it's gonna get, more fun, Signing, off,
no no we're not it's gonna get. MORE fun i
promise it's gonna get. MORE fun, i, think uh tell me,
about this tell me about this date thing you got going?
On here what Date? With mark and, then oh so
all they know Is that doug just threw out if
anybody wants to go on, A date, i think do
a date, with me a Date, with mark and then
they decide who have had the. Better date did the
boys have to plan the date? And? Everything, Yeah yeah
so we brought it Up, to Mark and, Mark's like
I'm in so now it's like the person who WROTE
me i have, Not, READ no i haven't reached back
out TO but i think would. Do it so maybe
like over, the summer we have them do that and
see who would be the more. Fun date the only,
thing IS like i always feel like for those, you know.
THERE'S pressure i HERE'S what. I think I think mark
would Win because doug would try. Too HARD that's i
have said that from. THE beginning I think doug absolutely
try too hard to do something and it Just wouldn't
but whatever it had nothing to do, with anything it
would be a fun piece to do for. The podcast
what would be even more fun is if we could
go out and get audio out of. The date, you
know it would be times where they don't, have audio
but then then sending someone, with them and that's kind,
of weird you KNOW what. I, mean yeah the third
person goes and they score the two decads don't but
but you KNOW what, I mean like it would be a.
Weird thing and so who do? You send who can?
You film WHO can? I hire i. Don't KNOW do i?
GO out i don't want to be part. OF that
i don't want to see any of. This stuff it
would be BECAUSE if i think my presence would make it,
TOO uncomfortable i think we should throw you into the
becks as the. WILD card i don't want to go
on a date. WITH somebody I MEAN I i i
really don't go To The Botanical. Garden gaylor oh that by.
The way by, the way you should just surprise the
person in. YOUR life i am talking, to You but
i'm not, naming anybody, because uh you should surprise, your
wife anybody or your your girlfriend and take them to
a wine bar that's secluded somewhere and take them on
a botanical garden walk or, why man a botanical garden
thing would? Be, nice, god no, oh god you can't
settle that for a. Little. BIT no i think most
guys are probably saying the, same thing but Maybe maybe, i'm, like,
WELL whimp i would fucking that's also on to the
other side.
Speaker 2: Of it it's like her him taking her to the.
Freaking races, yeah, right yeah this is shoot herself in
the fucking, head potentially Unless, she's tracy.
Speaker 1: You know Rac and. Randy's wife that, that's uh that's.
About it some guy came up to me the other
DAY because i Have The Victor Chrisler Dodge Jeep Ram
Dodged daytona electric and, he, goes, hey man let's. WALKING
about i love the CAR and i. Go yeah, he
goes that. LOOKS great i, said yeah all ELECTRIC and i.
Said yep, he goes how fast have you gotten it?
UP to, i, go oh not that fast? OR whenever
i said. Sixty car it's got a lot of a
lot of juice behind it. AND stuff i said it
would be fun to take it to a track and open,
it up and, he, goes Yeah, selth BUTLER and i was,
like WOW and i go Rac and randy. GOES yeah,
i know it's, like okay. ALL right i didn't know
if he knew us. AT all i had. No idea
he was just walking by talking about. The. Car, nice, Yeah.
Racing randy we haven't talked to him in, a while,
all right ke and we'll get out. Of Here For,
deputy Hurley For, coach Fisher for metcalf and For. Chat Gpt.
For kevin you are putting it all together because he's
funnier when. He's Drunk I'm, bill moran will see. YOU
tomorrow i WoT up in, the hotel didn't know what.
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