Speaker 1: Iron Smoke Distillery in Fairport, New York. So many cool things, Danny,
I love going over there because I'd love to have
a peacemaker settle in. Right, that's stage. That's the stage
that whiskey built my friends. Yeah, and it's award winning
whiskey and bourbon. You grab a couple of bottles in
case anybody that stops by your house. But here's what's
coming up, and you can see this for yourself if
you go to Ironsmokedistillery dot com. Click on the calendar.
You've got the Acoustic Sunset Sessions with Chris and Cory. Okay,
that'll be tonight from five to eight. Then Rochester favorite
Junkyard Field trip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they always do well there. Get there early.
Speaker 1: Eight thirty to eleven thirty. Then from noon until six pm.
On Saturday the seventh, it's Santa Con at the Cannery.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I now I'm really it's not the real one. Yeah,
I did Santa Con.
Speaker 1: I love santeg And, so it would be a bunch
of people dressed up as Santa will be drunk and
all of them. Oh yeah, we'll be sitting on each
other's laps. But then from two to six thirty on
the same day, so kind of overlapping with Santacon will
be the Warming Drive in memory of Lee Lucas. And
they're asking that you bring in some clothing for the
Warming Drive. Socks, hand warmers, handwarmer packets, gently used gloves, hats.
If you have a coat that maybe doesn't fit your kid,
like you bought it in the summer and you figured
it out, I'll save money. They are on sale and
get this and you go to put them on to
now and then the kid's grown three inches.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna fit. Yeah, bring it to the can.
Speaker 1: And then on Saturday night from eight to eleven, it's
the Dance of the sugar Bums.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, the sugar.
Speaker 1: Bum the holiday cheers. Here, grab a beer, get near
for the Dance of the sugar Bums at the Rattlesnake Burlesque.
That is from eight to eleven Saturday night, December.
Speaker 2: So who needs the rock cats when you got the
sugar bumms?
Speaker 1: Come on, look at all that stuff. Santacon right, the
burlesque show, the Warming Drive.
Speaker 3: I love that place. Iron Smoked di Scullery in Fairport,
New York.
Speaker 4: Baby, when your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice,
mix in.
Speaker 2: Some vodka.
Speaker 3: In color. A podcast from the Mac of All Trade
Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots Jeep Ram.
Speaker 2: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 3: Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot, Thanks
for telling a friend. That's how we spread the word
about the pirate ship.
Speaker 1: Today, December fifth, twenty twenty four is the actual second
anniversary of Billified, the Bill Moran podcast that we did
basically at my dining room table.
Speaker 3: Yes, and Danny's here and Kevin's here, sneak it out
a little bit.
Speaker 1: Eat can out some time for us tonight because he's
doing hockey and it's in Fairport, so that makes it
a little bit better.
Speaker 3: But thank you guys, and.
Speaker 1: We'll have hopefully if we were planning to do something
a special show tomorrow, we'll drop it on something.
Speaker 3: I may bring some wine and stuff.
Speaker 2: I was gonna bring champagne.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great idea. Why didn't I think that?
Speaker 1: So, dude, I gotta tell you, man, I am like,
I'm all over the place. Jamison did not make the team. Man,
but they said to him, and they told him why
they go you're They go, your shooting's great, white and short. No,
not his problem. Well yeah, sure not, so he said,
but your ball handling. You're handling isn't good, isn't where
we need it to be. So they said, listen.
Speaker 5: Uh, he goes, here's these camps for eight hundred dollars
a week.
Speaker 1: No to Basically, they go, we'll put you on what
we would kind of, I guess, is the practice squad,
and you can be the team manager. You come practice
with us, you just can't play in games. You'll have
to do the water and stuff. And he was so calm, like,
this is a kid who three days ago did not sleep,
was up at five o'clock in the morning, and then
sent me a text that he's in an office having
an emotional moment because he just didn't want to.
Speaker 3: Try out for this team.
Speaker 5: So your son could be the Jmack of Fairport.
Speaker 3: Well that's nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jaymack was the manager, right. But I'm also thinking
like this could be a great opportunity for you. So
I say to him, I said, well, how do you
feel about that? He goes, I kind of think it's
all right. I said, you do this and you practice
with the team I said, then we'll do some skills
camps in the spring, and we'll get you on AAU
in this summer.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what Tyler. When he was in eighth grade,
he wasn't able to try out because the doctor wouldn't
clear him because he wasn't he didn't meet the standards
that they had. But he was the manager of the team.
He skated every day with the team, so he was
immersed in Yes, the programs is what I want, so
he know, he knew the coaches, knew what the coaches wanted,
he knew the schemes the coaches wanted. So put him
ahead of the of the game for freshman year when
he was able to try out and make the team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of one of that. He's on the ice,
he's on the day.
Speaker 5: He'll be on the court every day practicing.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: And that's sort of what I'm looking for. What my
big thing wasn't so much whether my kid makes the
team or not. I want him involved in an activity
with different kids. I'll just leave it there. I will
tell you guys the story off air, but it's very
important to me, it really is. And so that's why
I was sort of pushing this so hard. And uh,
but I go to him, why are you so common?
He said, And this is the thing that's so important,
and think about this, like just as a human element
anywhere in life at any age. He said, Oh, the
kids on the team kind of like me. He goes,
I'm making jokes, I'm doing this.
Speaker 3: He goes.
Speaker 1: They were all really nice to me, and that was
his biggest fear them not accepting him came around.
Speaker 5: He got a big follow Shut here, tell me a
quick dick joke.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, Like, it was
all about being accepted, which is such a thing at
for anybody anywhere.
Speaker 1: Think about it. I don't care how old you are
to go to a new new job. You're nervous.
Speaker 3: Why you want to be liked.
Speaker 1: You want people to like you being exactly So that
was like the that was the big big thing. Yeah,
well but we we you know, you get nervous about
that and you think that, but man, his whole attitude
has been completely different about it.
Speaker 5: And jocely the Irish had never really been good at basketball.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and then I don't even even have it.
Yes they do have a team. I think I saw
Ireland play in the Olympics or were they the United Kingdom.
I don't remember. I'd have to double check that.
Speaker 5: Jerry mcnamud, Yeah, that's right, Yeah he was.
Speaker 3: He was the guy didn't do much in the NBA.
Didn't he make the NBA? He never did. I thought
he got on with the I thought he was like
with the Mavericks or some for a minute.
Speaker 2: He probably got drafted for a hot minute.
Speaker 3: But yeah, just a minute.
Speaker 2: It maybe make it more, but I don't know if
he stuck with.
Speaker 3: Anything nobly probably not. But we'll see.
Speaker 6: Everybodyhive's whole speech. During the Big East Tournament, they let
off Sports Center because with that cherry back in the bear,
this team wouldn't want ten games this year because.
Speaker 2: He was coming under fire.
Speaker 6: He was because like Billy Eatlan got hurt. So now
he's got to be the point guard and the three.
Speaker 2: Point ace so they.
Speaker 6: Win their first or second game in the Big East Tournament.
That's how long ago this was. If Bayhive goes off
sports today, we got our top story behind f Bob's.
Speaker 5: To the media, there is a did he never make
the NBA?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Never?
Speaker 5: It was first overall in the two thousand and six
US Basketball League Draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, USBL is all right, look at you, Danny.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 5: Which might be what the Razor Sharks league.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's actually above the Razor Sharks.
Speaker 6: So Doug Gottli was also a former number one all
pick in the USBO.
Speaker 3: Really yes, I did not know that.
Speaker 2: Yes, no, but he's not neither of them neither.
Speaker 6: He's coaching Wisconsin Green Bay and doing his talk show.
Speaker 3: Look at that double dip it. Yeah, good for him.
That's all right. Uh.
Speaker 1: Interesting. I want to just real quick because Kevin is
going to have to depart. We're going to do a
theme that tune between you and I.
Speaker 3: I just love it. I love the game. Kevin came
up with it. Uh.
Speaker 1: But I have to tell you with the second anniversary,
I did get a text from somebody today telling me
how much they love it and they love theme that tune.
Speaker 3: Ah, they did. They said, thanks March. It was Kyle, No,
it was Kyle and dude, I will write it and.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on two years. It's only gotten better. I will
miss Mark if he's done. Loved his music knowledge and stories.
I have listened to every episode and look forward.
Speaker 3: To many more. Keep up the good work and uh Mark?
And then I don't know.
Speaker 1: I got a text from other people today to regarding Mark,
and I didn't have time to respond.
Speaker 3: I'm just realizing he's.
Speaker 5: Going to Keith Urban solo tomorrow. I saw that on
he's playing Turning Stone.
Speaker 3: Okay, he's going to Keith Urban by himself.
Speaker 5: Well it's it's it's a solo road trip.
Speaker 2: If he gets close enough, you might get one of
those customs Keith Urban. Ye call him if he needs
a partner.
Speaker 1: No, No, I got other things going on. I have
things I have to do. What are you kidding me?
Speaker 5: And I don't guess could make up for two and
a half hours.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be lovely. Uh.
Speaker 1: And another guy wrote me Ken Dice, Ken has been
a long time listener and he said, he said, twenty
twenty four has been a challenging year and your show
has given me hours of enjoyment.
Speaker 3: Well good, How nice? Is that?
Speaker 1: Just a couple of the messages coming in? People love
you tonight tonight? No us as a group collective.
Speaker 5: Oh I know, but people, I've been on Facebook, people
love you.
Speaker 3: No, you can't let it go. Keny, keny.
Speaker 1: Do we have to play your stir of the ship
so I don't. I don't have your stir the ship
sung up?
Speaker 5: I thought, I die so Dan it's great?
Speaker 2: Did they?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah he did. It's not Danny in the Healthy Fats.
This was Kevin.
Speaker 1: And do we say the plates the meat sauce, the
meat sauce, the plates something like that that wrote this
song is he's a ship stir? We'll play, but we're
coming back uh tonight though, we are going to talk
to the person who owns Sean Fico, who owned that
piece of equipment that was stolen from Henrietta. And there
is a piece of the story that was not told
on the news. And then there's uh some parents reached
out to me with an unbelievable bullying story happening in
spencer Port. But I figured it's one that may be
able to play anywhere, you know what I'm saying, like
maybe anywhere.
Speaker 5: They pushed down the bleachers no football game. Is this
what happened?
Speaker 3: Oh? I have no idea? What? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh that girl girl? Yeah, I still think that there's
I smell fish Well, it's up a lot right her
gofund me is.
Speaker 3: Up a lot.
Speaker 2: I don't think they created a go fund me.
Speaker 3: There was a gofund me. Every time somebody gets hang
on hanging out. There was a go frying already because
she had cancer. Okay, right, all right, But this story.
Speaker 1: I've been saying all along, I go, it's a little
weird to me because, like I, I got the impression
that maybe the parents were frustrated. He's a forty nine
er fan. We leave the game, but some drunk bills
fans pushed through. So we played audio of him from
Channel four and Buffalo, even though he's a Rochester guy,
and he says in the audio, these guys are saying,
we're gonna just push through these forty nine ers fans,
and he goes. He bumped me, He bumped my son,
and he goes. And then my daughter, who weighs nothing,
got kind of pushed over and landed in the snow.
She wasn't hurt, she was fine. There's no report file,
there's no complaint file, there's no you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
and the headlines all made it sound like they took
her up and go cancer, fuck you and punched her
onto the field, was how I thought, because it was
even the I saw the story on the New York Post.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Buffalo, Yeah, I got set. Peter sent me the
story from the New York Post.
Speaker 5: Right what they have reporters the girl got up after
getting shoved and shanked the guy.
Speaker 1: So I'm going, this is like not I something doesn't
add up here that they just left because I thought
this story got exaggerated in the media. That was it
what I thought happened and I and now people are
starting to say they think it was calculated.
Speaker 3: I still don't, but I think.
Speaker 1: Somebody was frustrated and goes, yeah, we went to a
Bills game and our daughter with cancer even got shoved
into a snowbank. Because they're so callous, right, But I'm
thinking this wasn't There's nobody I go if this really happened.
If my daughter I have none, had beat cancer twice
and somebody shoves her into a snowbank because she's a
forty nine Ers fan, what do you think is gonna happen.
I'm punching that guy right in the face. Oh yeah,
something's happening, or he's being read my lawyer.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, get Greg on the phone.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? Like that that's sort
of the thing, and none of that happened. That's why
I was like, it's a little weird.
Speaker 5: I think I still want to know what the extent
of the shovel was.
Speaker 2: It just a little bit.
Speaker 3: I think it was a bump bump, she went nowhere
to stand. It was nowhere to stand.
Speaker 2: Everything's on video somewhere, it's got where.
Speaker 3: But this is the other thing. Do you think that
if some Bills fan that other Bills fans wouldn't go, hey, asshole,
you just shoved the little girl. Fuck you?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, I just I thought
it was almost unfortunate that it was being painted as
Buffalo fans suck it is, or even.
Speaker 2: A douchebag friend of the guy who's drunk with her.
You shove that girl.
Speaker 3: Awesome, Nobody did that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Nobody did that so or that we know of. And
I think this father or somebody took to social media
kind of complaining right probably in the moment, frustrated.
Speaker 2: Hey everybody, it's it's Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Somebody somebody saw it, and there it goes. I just
want to say, but and then it takes off from
there right, Antonio Brown sees it. I go to a
land anton Brown hooks started your wagon. Jesus, all right,
Kevin's gotta go. So we gotta do a theme that tune.
Speaker 3: All right, I am excited for theme that tune. I
haven't done it in a while. Here we go. Kevin's
got it.
Speaker 7: She's playing flushing bom So said.
Speaker 3: I come.
Speaker 2: She's smells, sight, taste and sound.
Speaker 8: But somehow I can't feeling that anything should happen.
Speaker 3: God, I know these fun I can sing the words,
these don't sing, Laura, Why do you like to step up?
Speaker 9: NaN's change?
Speaker 3: Okay, no one can change your life.
Speaker 10: Success for you, don't never anyone savens.
Speaker 3: Rain shattering out.
Speaker 2: I want to do so.
Speaker 3: So you found a place that's beard of for you
and this rock. I'm so nice.
Speaker 8: Week we chained our hearts in vain.
Speaker 11: We jumped, never asking why you would start fell.
Speaker 3: I don't know what, I don't know. I'm blowing this game.
Speaker 12: Don't you ever say I just walked away.
Speaker 13: We always want you.
Speaker 8: I can lively running for my life.
Speaker 3: I got it. I think I got it. I think
I got it.
Speaker 2: Oh ship, I'll be shocked either one of you get
this one.
Speaker 3: Danny is gonna pull this way up. It's gonna Danny
feel to it.
Speaker 12: I don't know, right around six or something.
Speaker 3: Spear Food Industry with your food so to your.
Speaker 13: Bill a beaufo.
Speaker 3: A lot of question.
Speaker 9: Changing to try and please me.
Speaker 8: You never learn don't before oh no, and don't imagine.
Speaker 12: You two for me.
Speaker 2: I used to love this song. I forgot about this song.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know this game has brought back a few
different songs I've forgotten about.
Speaker 2: I think I got the theme. I think I got
a few of the names.
Speaker 14: Ever since you've been lieving me.
Speaker 3: From that name. I don't know how it.
Speaker 15: Feels when behind the music came out.
Speaker 2: Still working over there, tensils down.
Speaker 3: I need an extra time, mister Connery.
Speaker 2: You should not be writing this much.
Speaker 5: We're gonna have to get him an I d P
for this game.
Speaker 11: Right there we go, I got it back to the top.
Speaker 3: I know this song She's so High.
Speaker 2: I don't know the art.
Speaker 3: She's so High is the title She's so High?
Speaker 2: I actually love this entire album.
Speaker 11: Tal Bachman, Oh fuck tal Bachman.
Speaker 2: Wilson Phillips, hold on.
Speaker 5: I was gonna Bill have a chance because Wilson doesn't phillips.
Speaker 3: I didn't get hold on, so I get.
Speaker 6: A point there and they had a meteoric rise and
then poof.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like her one record. It's like the button
on her pants. You gotta have this one, of course
I do.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: It's the Wallflowers.
Speaker 1: The song one had one sixteven Heart, their first single.
I loved, I actually loved this man, Jacob Dillan, I'm
fucking flaming.
Speaker 2: This is Mammoth Wolfgang van Halen.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: It's a song called find a Place. The song is
called distance.
Speaker 3: I got nothing there is that him singing?
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, okay, gotter than his father wrecking Ball Miley sidus.
Speaker 3: Yes, I got two of that one.
Speaker 2: They really had to work on her voice on this
one too, which is weird.
Speaker 3: I like her Voiceman's more grappling.
Speaker 2: This one. I want to say Barefoot in the Street.
Speaker 3: It's not is a Radiohead, It's not.
Speaker 2: It's called Your House by Inhaler. Yeah, I don't know
in Haler.
Speaker 6: Okay, I know who, Okay, I know who's I don't
want to give away the theme, but I have a
pretty good idea.
Speaker 3: Once I tell you who it is.
Speaker 2: You'll you'll, you'll hear it. Yeah, don't go changing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, just the way you are, just the
way you are, Alexa Joel, I said, lady g it's
Alexa Rajel.
Speaker 3: It is really wow. I've heard this a lot.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know this is Julian Lennon.
Speaker 3: I wrote down George Harrison's Julian Lennon.
Speaker 2: It's much too late for.
Speaker 3: I have, much too late for goodbyes.
Speaker 2: Or just too late for they who will give it to.
Speaker 3: And the theme for Biden That's what I had. I'm
not kidding. I'm not kidding. No, my.
Speaker 2: Second generation artists, just.
Speaker 3: The way you are, children of this That makes a
lot of sense.
Speaker 2: But I just in Hayler's Bottles Kid.
Speaker 5: It is Bonal's kid.
Speaker 3: You can hear it. Yeah, it sounds all I do
know that fan. I played them before Jesus.
Speaker 2: Their first hit sounded like old school YouTube with.
Speaker 3: The d they did, but they changed it a little bit. Yeah,
but I thought went it was in hanler One Headlight
wrecking Ball, Just the way you are? I go, is
this he doing a hundred by joke? I couldn't tell.
Speaker 11: All right, very good, it's six look at this sixth Avenue. Crackhead,
good stuff, good stop. I like this this is I
like it too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the whole.
Speaker 1: But he's not the singer though, is he thought he
was a percussionist.
Speaker 3: I made me. I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, I think he is the singer because
there's another song.
Speaker 5: He sounds just sounds just like bon He sounds like
Paul hewitts Houston.
Speaker 3: Paul Hewett was the any guy Na, there's a huet.
I knew with Gary Hewett, so I always fucked that up.
We know.
Speaker 6: Paul Heugh was the basketball coach at Georgia Tech who
went to Saint Chad Fisher.
Speaker 5: I was trying to find a song from Larry's kid,
but I don't think Larry has a kid.
Speaker 3: That plays violins. It was so funny.
Speaker 2: So it's the first guy Bachman Turner overdrives kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tal Bachmann and I really like a lot of
Talbo album and I never ever knew.
Speaker 3: Who was singing. I gotta twenty twenty five gonna come back.
Let's come. They're gonna try to start winning these games. Start.
Speaker 2: He's gonna start writing it for me. Well, it's funny,
come up, with a theme for it.
Speaker 6: So it's funny how like all these artists who like
had to scratch and claw and make their way to
the top of like okay, kid, here you go. And
it's the kind of flake I mean. Well, it's not
like they didn't work hard to write their own songs,
but they kind of helped set them the table. I mean,
even like Eddie Vedder's daughter, mister I'm going, I'm I'm
mister alternative and I hate nepotism.
Speaker 2: Hey, you want to sing with me on a record?
Speaker 5: Yeah, But I mean again, of all again, of the
bands in the eighth there, I mean, I would say
two and a half have had like longevity, right, The
Wallflowers have been around for a while, but Miley's good.
Speaker 6: But the wall Farmers starting one good record, Wilson Phillips
had one good record, Mammoth the jury still out. Miley
Cyrus has had stag power, but she also was Hannah Montana.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Wallflowers are still putting music out, they are
and still touring.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Wallflowers, I didn't think Bob did a
lot for them at all.
Speaker 1: No, he didn't, I don't think, you know, but I
think that name you know what happens, you get it,
you get through a door. Can you stay in the room, Yeah,
that's on you. But you can get through the door.
And that's maybe it's unfortunate.
Speaker 5: But I met them at some record star right after
the album came out. They were signing autographs and stuff,
and they were they were cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, I'm not doubted that none of these
people are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, and Miley Cyrus too is like way
more talented than their dad.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he had two hits.
Speaker 5: He had better hair though.
Speaker 3: All Right, we're Kevin's gotta go.
Speaker 1: Thank you for Covenant, Thank you for doing that great theme,
really really great theme. Uh well, we'll take a moment.
When we come back. We're gonna talk to Sean Fico,
who is the owner of the snowball removal Henrietta stolen
from Henrietta Dan and wait till you.
Speaker 6: Know how to operate one of them things on the
east side, No, south side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't really consider Henriette the east side.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Henry is like the bottom of Rochester.
Speaker 1: It's like, I know, I know, but is it it's
almost childa Yeah, it's so saying it's like a little
piece of chilie that broke, Yeah, a little piece of
grease that all right, We'll take a moment and we'll
be right back with Sean right after this.
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Speaker 9: Cather like sister of the Pop.
Speaker 11: Every single day he was visnia things you never say.
Speaker 13: She's got away with words, making trouble.
Speaker 3: Bloo.
Speaker 2: This is you be four hundred. You're gonna get me
in trouble because then you can.
Speaker 3: All because you go.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing is God gifts from making trouble. Food
he does. He does.
Speaker 6: You never really know, but you know, like family guy
once said, do you like your reggae watered down in
appropriate for a wedding, and they play you before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very funny. I just had to play that.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how familiar you are with this story,
but I will play a little bit of Channel thirteen,
the local ABC affiliate reporting on the missing tractor.
Speaker 16: Here we Go new at five thirty A bold crime
and a Henryetta shopping plaza.
Speaker 3: A thirty thousand heell machine used to remove snow.
Speaker 9: Vanish the owner for someone to come.
Speaker 3: Forward, disappeared today rapture.
Speaker 5: Karen Lewell, the owner, tells me he was shocked when
he learned that such a big machine was stolen.
Speaker 3: Definitely did not expect anything like this.
Speaker 2: The day before it was going to snow. It was
the president of AP Property Services in Ontario.
Speaker 3: So anyway, shawfee Go is the owner of AP Property Service.
Speaker 2: So what happened was the machine what to talk to
Miss Cleo and.
Speaker 6: It's going to snow. You may want to cut yourself
loose snow. Or somebody went to Miss Cleo and said
it's going to snow. Maybe it was a weather person.
Speaker 2: And they tipped somebody off who knew how to drive
this machine.
Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the thing. They don't say anything in
the story about how the machining got twenty They found
it great police work by our friends of the Monroe
County Shiffs Department, all with Todd Baxter, yes, and Deputy
Hurley and I so I assumed that somebody pulled up
with a flatbed, somebody knew how to drive this, and
you just loaded on. And I go, I said, this
is a crime that could is just done right under
your nose is how I thought it was done. Well,
let Sean tell you how it actually happened. But I'm
going if I'm security at that plaza, I just think
the guys are picking up the equipment. I'm not even
going to question it. Yeah, they know what's going on.
Speaker 2: You act like you know what you're doing. You could
pretty much get away.
Speaker 3: With almost I've always said that.
Speaker 1: But on the other side, I said, how many times
have we driven by a construction site or even just
a small somebody level in land clearing land or whatever
for some kind of new building, new structure, and there's
a back hone a bulldozer and they sit there for
days and days with nobody, no activity, know anything, And
I go I am surprised that those don't get stolen more. Well,
for more on all of this, we bring in Sean Fico. Shawn,
I appreciate you, and I'm sorry that we're running a
little behind here. I hope we're not keeping you too late.
Shawn's in some kind of an office and it looks like,
are you the town supervisor?
Speaker 3: Is that you're a Is that the ap office?
Speaker 2: Volume?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's oh, I got it. I got Kevin play.
You're snowing, so you're still at work. I got you.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this equipment, so you do a lot of
big commercial parking lots and things.
Speaker 3: We do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and do you have like contracts even with some
apartment buildings or anything like that.
Speaker 16: Well, most mostly shopping centers, shopping stuff like that, shopping
different businesses, hospitals and whatnot, Okay, throughout the city.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so then you're on. I mean, you got it.
If it's hospitals, you got it.
Speaker 2: There's no like, there's no calling in sick. It's go.
Speaker 4: That's right, gotta be there twenty four hours.
Speaker 16: That's why we've got Cruis out right now, because there's
still you know, the Bjay's walmarts they're all still open
and so we're still working.
Speaker 1: So what happened with this piece of equipment because it
wasn't put on a trailer.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to laugh. I'm sorry to laugh.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 14: Night.
Speaker 16: It's funny now that I've gotten it back. It's funny
now because there are some sleepless nights. And I'll get
into that a little bit further. But so, you know,
there was some some bad weather coming, right, so we
start putting equipment in place. We had most of it
in place, but this is this particular piece we delivered
to Frontier Commons at twelve twenty five Jefferson Road. Yeah,
on Saturday Saturday, around nine thirty ten o'clock in the morning.
We knew some snow was coming Saturday night and I
mean sorry, Sunday night, Monday, whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, being ahead of stuff, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 16: Yeah, so we do it might my employee delivers machine.
There is a load of salt we could. We have
satellite salt bins so we can fill our salt trucks
from different areas. They don't have to return to home
base to to get their salt. Their trucks filled up.
Speaker 4: So the operator, the operator pushes up the salt parks.
Speaker 16: The loader leaves next day, the foreman for that area
wants to go check all the equipment, right because it's
gonna snow.
Speaker 4: He wants to make sure everything's good.
Speaker 16: So he called me and said, where's where's the salt
loader at Frontier Commons?
Speaker 4: I said, right where we left it? What do you mean?
He's like, it's not here.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me just I just want to clarify something.
So this this was basically what what do you call it?
A front loader?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a wheeloader, front wheel.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's not used really to remove snow but put
salt in the trucks.
Speaker 4: No, it can do both. So it removes snow the bucket.
Speaker 16: Uh well, it can load a salt truck and then
you attach a snow pusher on the front of it
and it can plow the park lot.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, okay, all right, so you got to
know how to do this stuff. How difficult is it
to drive one of these? Does it have a steering wheel?
It does, okay, because there's some that are more lever
right up there.
Speaker 6: Yes, you that have satellite radio, because a lot of
those have satellite radio.
Speaker 13: Right.
Speaker 16: No, not this particular one two thousand, because that might
be something to the older one of the older units
we have.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because someone's going to steal something, they might as
well like turn on like serious and just you know, casual.
Speaker 4: That's right exactly.
Speaker 3: So what happened? Then the guy calls you what what?
What is your reaction?
Speaker 4: Well, like I thought he was I thought he was kidding.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm like, okay, you know, today's not the day
I'm getting ready for s So you know, of course
we take care of millions of square feet of asphalt
in this area, so of course I'm a little excited.
It's the first run, right, a little little little nervous,
like it've been over for thirty four years, but every
first trip there's you're always a little nervous. And then
he comes across with this. I'm like, it's it's really
not the day to mess with me. Can we just
just can you just do what you gotta do? And
he's like, no, Sean, I'm serious that it's not here.
I said, did you check inside.
Speaker 4: The salt Man? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I did, he goes.
Speaker 16: I said, okay, did you check around the plaza? Maybe
somebody took it for a joy ride. He says Sean,
I've been all over this plaza.
Speaker 4: I can't find it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because there's nothing worse to telling the boss that
something like that is missing.
Speaker 3: I'm sure wants to make sure. You don't want to
hear this. Well, here's why you're not.
Speaker 1: You're not, you're not. Here's why your voice doesn't crack
on that you didn't do it. Yeah, you know this
had nothing to do with you, Sean. Do the keys
stay with the vehicle?
Speaker 16: So they Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. The problem
is with construction equipment most keys. So if you have
a SOT.
Speaker 3: Yes, you have a certain brand, the same for you.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, so one John Deere is all John Deere
most okay?
Speaker 2: I see yeah, I mean for the for the type.
Speaker 3: No, but you're right, that's a great example, great example
to use caterpillar or whatever.
Speaker 2: Nothing runs like a deer.
Speaker 3: No. So all right, so make a difference. What happen?
What do you do next?
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 16: So I so instead of I didn't want to bother
the Sheriff's office or be I know it's not a
bother to them, But I said, you know what, before
we go out in this crazy you know, you know,
calling in the cavalry on trying to locate this machine.
Speaker 4: Let's go see if we can find ourselves.
Speaker 16: So we got a group of people together and we
searched every I'm laughing and it's not funny.
Speaker 4: Wasn't funny at the time.
Speaker 16: Every shopping center, every dead end street, any construction site,
it was within close radius. We weren't going to Penfield
and Fairport to look. We were staying, you know, in
Henrietta because we figured that you know, who's going to
drive a loader that far, like, you know, someone would
spot them, some would, you would bring attention to yourself.
Speaker 4: It's thirty thousand pounds. So we're looking around, looking around.
Speaker 16: Once I realized that, because I was I was one
of the search party, I'm like, it's really not here.
So that's when I notified the Sheriff's office and they
came down and they were They didn't understand either.
Speaker 4: At first.
Speaker 16: I was trying to explain to what it was, and
like a what got stolen? I said, yeah, a wheeloader.
I had to kind of explained what it was, and
so they were just as shocked as I was.
Speaker 1: All right, so this is the thing that's strange, right,
because they did great police work.
Speaker 3: How did they track it down?
Speaker 4: So they did do excellent excellent police Yeah he did.
I love those guys. But how it actually was found
was a good Samaritan Oh wow?
Speaker 3: Okay, so was there?
Speaker 1: Oh so that it did hit the news right and
then they did the update. When I saw the story,
it had already been found.
Speaker 2: So it was like a crime Stoppers type of thing.
Speaker 16: So I gotta tell you it's the power of social
media because this was shared.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the story was shared twenty four hundred times.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it got out there fast, all right, So
how so?
Speaker 3: And it was twenty seven miles away.
Speaker 16: Thirty seven thirty seven okay, seven thirty.
Speaker 3: Seven miles away? So how far? Where? Where was that?
Speaker 4: Still?
Speaker 16: It was located off of Logan Road in uh Mount Morris?
Speaker 4: Uh uh you know that area.
Speaker 2: Mount Morris that they were moving another Mount Morris they
needed with.
Speaker 3: So sean, So somebody drove it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they drove it.
Speaker 16: I didn't believe it myself when I got the phone
call and they said they found it on a on
a closed seasonal road. I'm like, okay, well, it's got
to be trailer marks, there's got to be something. No, no,
I was driven thirty seven miles without there has to
be one rough ride.
Speaker 4: His back's hurting. I can tell you that.
Speaker 2: Did he have the red trigle on the back of
it with the flashers going yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah? But so where did they? Yeah? Did what did they?
Speaker 1: They took back roads obviously, but when did they do this?
Because you could hold up a lot of traffic. I
grew up in a very retural part of New York State,
down in northern Dutchess County, and there was a hun
of a farm equipment.
Speaker 3: They would come out and even on those backcountry roads, Man,
you'd have a backed up traffic for a quarter miles.
Speaker 2: Same thing I should talk with man the grapes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not uncommon on Route twenty to see the
farmers tractors.
Speaker 16: Right, So I I That's what I when I when
I talked to Channel thirteen, that's what I told him.
Speaker 4: I said, somebody's seen something.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 16: There's a couple of a couple of other factors. Is
a it was a Sunday morning, Okay, so nobody's it
being Sunday. Well, not that nobody's out it being Sunday.
There's not much construction we're going on. Even if there
was construction, We're going on, if you know what I'm saying, right, Yeah.
And then on top of that, and there was no
snow on the ground. It wasn't like the loader was
going to a location to plow snow. It had to
draw attention to someone going to church or you know,
church or breakfast.
Speaker 2: Those are the only two options.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But Sean, I'm thinking, even if I was going
to church or breakfast, if I see this guy chugging along,
I'm not thinking it's stolen unless he's going He's going somewhere.
Speaker 3: Maybe he's just doing what you did, but putting it
in place.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing about Sunday mornings.
Speaker 6: Having been the person going to breakfast or going to church,
and being in a family going to church, the.
Speaker 2: Old man, the guy behind the wheel or the mom
behind the wheel yelling, and everybody getting the car.
Speaker 6: Let's going late, and you're not focused on anything else
but getting to church at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I get that too. Sure, So this went
thirty seven miles? How long does that take? What's the
top seven?
Speaker 16: So I'll back the story up a little bit. He
the suspective. I guess you want to call the gentleman.
He rode a bicycle there.
Speaker 4: Oh I can't. The story gets funnier.
Speaker 16: I got he rode a bicycle there and wait to
hear this part. He enters the property or enters the
area of the loader at four forty am. He doesn't
steal it technically until six thirty. He sits in the
back of the plaza and he teaches himself how to
run it. He's going, oh, yeah, one forward words, bucket up,
bucket down.
Speaker 4: Uh huh.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's probably a YouTube how to tips dick. Yeah,
some guy from the subcond and go, okay, so here's
how to operate a loader.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is what this is what we're thinking,
like and subscribe.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Did they arrest this guy?
Speaker 4: So I get a phone call, like I said, for
the Sheriff's office.
Speaker 16: We immediately dispatched one of our low boy trailers to
go pick it up and return. Then we started getting
some little, you know, some information. So it's twenty I've
said this in other interviews. It's twenty twenty four. We're
on camera.
Speaker 3: Every everywhere you go, everywhere.
Speaker 16: So they the Sheriff's office got a fist full of
subpoenas and they went door to door and they were
they you know, got a lot of footage. So they
got some of the footage and where it started. But
it was found so fast, you want. One of the
things that really really helped was on abandoned road. Uh,
the Limits County sheriffs went knocking door to door when
because it was in Limits County, when a passer by
saw it, calls nine one one. Uh, let me say
on the sheriff's deep and you show up. They start
canvassing the area. Ever, when starts knocking the door, they said,
you know, to a neighbor, have you seen anything? I
know it's you know, this is kind of a dead
end here, and he says, did I see anything? He goes,
I got a trail cam right on that road. They're like,
no way, So we go. They go to the trail cam.
They pull the foot of the trail cam.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 4: This is where it even gets funnier. He drives me,
he drives the machine back there.
Speaker 16: He sits in it for five hours, five hours, he
just sits there in the machine.
Speaker 2: They fall asleep or it was wonderful.
Speaker 1: Where the how the fun I get out of here?
I left my bike back in Henry.
Speaker 3: What am I doing? Jesus right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I won't get into any like the details
of what. But he was picked up. Okay, I made
a phone going and got picked up.
Speaker 1: I want to I have a I'll lead you into
a place that I think is important for you to say.
Speaker 3: But I'll ask you this.
Speaker 1: I have heard things people talk behind your back and
they say how charitable you are, Like you give you do,
You're very charitable with your company.
Speaker 3: You do a lot of really nice work. My question
to you is this.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is true in your business,
but I hear from a lot of people that say
it's very hard to find employees right sometimes. Okay, this
guy fucking motivated Sean.
Speaker 3: He taught himself to try.
Speaker 2: Can you give him a job?
Speaker 16: So this was brought up once before, okay, actually twice
before on another interview, and I did say, though I
did say prior to that, while I was talking to
another employee, I'm like, you know what.
Speaker 4: He drove it thirty seven miles. He didn't damage anything.
He studied the machine before he took off to make
sure he wasn't going to damage or hurt the machine.
This guy might be a good hire, you know, as
a joke. As a joke.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just saying he's using it as a
motivational speech for your employees.
Speaker 16: Why it's going to be at the next meeting, I'm
gonna say, look, how nice the stranger who stole it
took care of it. How come you guys can't take
care of it the same way.
Speaker 3: What's the top speed on this?
Speaker 4: About twenty one twenty two miles?
Speaker 3: All right, so you're going you're putting along there? And
how much is it? Diesel?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: Diesel?
Speaker 3: All right? Did he run out of gas? If I
told you this?
Speaker 16: He only burned a car. So my employee gets there
to pick out the machine. First question I asked is
how much fuel is in it? I don't know why,
I just I just wanted to know. Yeah, he said
it street quarters of tank.
Speaker 4: Wow, I said. I asked him if it was a hybrid?
I said, how did it?
Speaker 3: That's amazing?
Speaker 4: In thirty seven miles?
Speaker 16: This is this is ridiculous, but yeah, it's all burned
his story seven miles. One of my friends made the joke.
They said, you were more concerned on how fuel.
Speaker 4: Efficient it was? How much fuel is finding the machine?
And I said, You're right, I was.
Speaker 16: I was wor worried about, like, not worried about, was
more curious about how much fuel it burned.
Speaker 2: That's freaking what was the motivation behind?
Speaker 4: So we don't know. It's I gotta be honest, none
of it makes sense.
Speaker 16: So from the video, like I said, the original part
of the video, it does look like he was teaching
himself how to run the machine.
Speaker 4: But yeah, when he parked it.
Speaker 16: He got out, he turned the master switch off, which
powers the machine up, gives you all the power to ignition.
Uh so me, I'm saying to myself, Hey, you know
if what does he care if my battery goes dead?
Speaker 4: Right he turns it off, Like what's he care?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 16: Why are you caring about my battery? Just take off
the bucket was late? He set the bucket perfectly on
the ground, Like.
Speaker 1: I'm just wondered, may I ask this? And maybe you
don't want to answer? Approximately what age.
Speaker 3: Of a man was this that.
Speaker 4: I don't know, okay, because I'm.
Speaker 1: Wondering if this is a guy who's either out of
work or whatever or used to do this and goes.
Speaker 3: Man, this would be fun.
Speaker 1: I don't know it all sounds like a frat prank, right,
you would think young guys. But I but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Morris Community College.
Speaker 4: Bouncing back and forth with all this stuff that's been
going through my mind.
Speaker 16: Yeah, and I'm saying to myself, Okay, well he waited
five hours for a ride.
Speaker 4: Why didn't he just ask his friend for a ride
in the beginning? Yeah, why take the loader that far?
Speaker 16: Just ask you if your friend has to come all
the way to Mount Moors to pick you up, but
I'll just call him asking for you know, asking for
riding about Morris, I don't know.
Speaker 4: And then you know, why should the master switch off?
So some other things that we we thought about and
heard you know from the uh.
Speaker 16: The police, is that the fact that sometimes they're worried,
so were they stole it on Sunday?
Speaker 4: Okay, which we're really not.
Speaker 16: You know, they're they're assuming that we're not paying attention
to it. They go and park criminals Steve's, they'll park
a piece of equipment somewhere and leave it for a week,
it'll let if it's there. If it's there in a week,
they know it's not GPS, gotcha. So then so then
it makes sense who would think of that.
Speaker 4: I didn't even think of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah did, And you clearly don't have GPS on this one.
Will you start using that now?
Speaker 4: So most of my vehicles do.
Speaker 16: We have a large drump truck fleet have sixty seventy
down trucks and they have ford facing and we're facing cameras.
Speaker 4: They have GPS. So with the wheeloaders they are they also.
Speaker 16: Have a GPS and them Unfortunately, of course, just you know,
as lucky it this machine did not have it yet.
It's an older unit. It was probably on the last
of the list. I really wasn't worried about it because
we own one hundred and sixteen of them. We own
one hundred and sixteen wheel laders. Yeah, so, and this
is one of the older ones. The last thing I
would ever think is that the one that was twenty
four years old that would get stolen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is I wouldn't either. I would think that too.
Speaker 1: But what was your biggest fear, Sean, when you heard
that this or you confirmed with your own eyes that
this thing was really missing?
Speaker 3: What was your biggest fear at that moment?
Speaker 4: Truthfully?
Speaker 16: To you know, I know we've been laughing and joking
about this, But on a serious note, I was scared
to death that they would cause injury to someone. I
mean I get choked up talking about it. I was disgruntled,
could be you know, been in a bad relationationship, whatever
the case may be. What what did you take this for?
Speaker 4: Scared to death? I you know, and.
Speaker 16: Truthfully wholeheartedly I lost sleep. Not because of the value
of the machine that I was going to lose. I
was so scared that someone was gonna get hurt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all I.
Speaker 3: Can Yeah, I mean right.
Speaker 1: I think there was a case somewhere that you had
mentioned when you and I talked before him, where somebody
drove a bulldozer or something or maybe a back through
an ex girlfriend's home.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they called it the.
Speaker 16: Kill dozer, and they went to uh, you know, they
went to town halls and whatnot. He was disgruntled with
with the government and he just he took his vengeance
out and once it was found, I was, like, I said,
nobody wants to lose that kind of money. We have
such a large fleet. We have over four hundred pieces
of equipment. Our insurance deductible is twenty five thousand dollars.
Our insurance rates are through the roof, so you kind
of have to eat this kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: So you know that.
Speaker 16: You know, I understand like a lot of people with
the car stolen, and we feel I feel bad for everybody,
but really the condor out there pounding the pavement every
day trying to make a living, they suffer the most
when something Because this is not the only theft that
we've had this year.
Speaker 4: We've had some serious We've had some big hits.
Speaker 16: Back in February, we have a side by side caboda
with a plow and assalter that we also used for sidewalks.
Speaker 4: It was stolen out of Walmart, a Walmart, and we
didn't find that.
Speaker 16: Well, that's that's easy to hide, so I didn't really
think about getting back. You know, it's a side by side.
You could put on a trailer, take it to your
hunting camp. We would never see it again, right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but it's side by side. What does that
run like twenty five it's twenty.
Speaker 16: Five thousand, The plow is six thousand, the salter was
five thousand, So it was a thirty six thirty seven thousand,
thirty seven thousand I lost with a company.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you're trying to write that off and
still right or insurance to cover it and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy because I do wonder. Like I said
in the beginning, you drive by a construction site, you'll
see equipment sitting for days, and I agree, yeah, and
so you wonder, Now the GPS thing makes perfect sense.
I didn't even think of that, or or an Apple
AirTag or something.
Speaker 16: You know, during my one of my interviews with the news,
I said, you know, somebody had to see something, and
I even said it today tonight.
Speaker 4: Here they did.
Speaker 16: And you don't give it much thought, but a lot
of people thought and they said it that people they
did see it. They thought it was a town machine.
So it's nothing right for us to see a town machine, right.
You just don't look at the markings. This particular unit had.
My initial AP was on there and DASH ninety three
was the equipment number, but it didn't have our name
on it. Usually we plaster our name. I'm both sides
of this. For some reason, this machine doesn't have it.
It does now, for you know, I got vacation markings,
so you know, the number was on top.
Speaker 4: It's hard to see. Really, somebody could have.
Speaker 16: Thought it was a town machine going to an emergency
watermeme breaker or whatnot.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm glad you got the equipment. Back hats
off to the Monroe County Sheriffs for their their diligence,
and then Livingston County Sheriffs as well.
Speaker 16: They got they got several fingerprints off the machine. They
were there for two hours fingerprinting every flat surface. So,
I mean everyone went above and beyond. And one thing
I want, I.
Speaker 4: Just want to say, if I can, we have to
be so proud of where we live.
Speaker 16: This community is. I mean, they're there when you need them.
So I am very filanthropic. I got choked up when
I talk. Sorry, so uh And and I've always wondered,
you know, I do all this for the community, and
not that I ever want anything in return.
Speaker 4: You always wonder if if you need them, will be
there for me.
Speaker 16: Well, let me tell you something brings tears in my eyes.
Like I said, this community came out of the woodwork
to help me. Was It's humbling, truly, it truly is.
It's it's a you know, like I said, in the beginning,
we were laughing as a funny matter. Then I got
a little serious.
Speaker 4: But truthfully, all I can do is tell you that
be proud of where we live.
Speaker 16: This, this city is this. You know, there's bad things
that happen here. We live in a great community. When
you need them, they're there for you. So and and
and thank you everybody in this community, who who talked,
who called, who reached out to me, who shared this post.
Speaker 4: We love you. This is awesome.
Speaker 9: Thank you, that's cool.
Speaker 1: That is very cool. And I'm glad it all worked
out for you. And hopefully I don't know, do you
do you hope for a snowy winter or not?
Speaker 4: We do, and I'm gonna tell you why, real, real fast.
Speaker 16: We're a very very very large snow removal company and
we have to prove our worth the last couple of years.
You don't need they don't need a guy like me
with all these big loaders. They can hire the pickup
guy and he's okay. And there's nothing wrong with someone
just having a pickup. That's not what I'm saying. It's
just the fact that you know people, you know, we
have a lot overhead, so you might, I don't know,
you might pay a little bit more when you when
you're when you're when you're plumbing a big shopping center
of plaza.
Speaker 4: We just we we got to get out there and
prove our our improve our worths.
Speaker 12: Well.
Speaker 1: I think there is supposed to be a little bit
more snow. The lake's still warm, so you know that
that helps.
Speaker 2: I'll say this shot. Let me ask you this to
recruit some of the losses.
Speaker 6: Could you take this thing on the road and like
do autograph signings and pictures and be.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, hey, take a picture with the machine that
got stolen.
Speaker 16: You know it's really that's a really good idea if
you can, if you can help with that.
Speaker 3: I think that would be huge, would be very well Walmart.
Speaker 2: I mean like good Eddy.
Speaker 6: Girl, like Henry, you're in Henrietta, So I mean you
could go to either Target Walmart. Trust me, the next
three saturdays are going to be mobbed.
Speaker 2: You could just pull right in.
Speaker 3: The parking lot like, hey, dollars a picture, We'll buy
you a lot. Done.
Speaker 4: Be honest.
Speaker 16: I think I think we have something here to start.
Speaker 4: I like, yeah, maybe that's the next podcast. We can
start getting that to a raffle.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 16: And one more thing before we we exit here is
is that there was a good Samaritan. I don't want
to say his name just because you know, who knows,
uh what kind of retaliation could happen, but thank god
for him. He was driving by on his way to work,
saw a machine on a on a on a on
a you know, a seasonal road. Was like, hey, he's
thought the same thing. He said the same thing. He
thought it was town thought it was town work. But
it was there for a couple of days, and he,
you know, he took the initiative to drive back there
to investigate a little further.
Speaker 4: And guess what.
Speaker 16: He looked at the numbers and he goes, oh my god,
I've seen this social media.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there it is. That's great.
Speaker 2: It takes one, No, it takes one.
Speaker 3: I'm glad, glad it worked out, Sean. And thank you
for your time, and thank you keep doing great work.
Speaker 4: I'll try thank you for thanks for everything. I appreciate
your work.
Speaker 3: All right, see you later. Here goes Sean Fico. That
was that. What a story, Danny, what a story? Wow?
Speaker 2: I really like to take a picture with the machines. Yeah, idea,
I think that'd be a great idea.
Speaker 3: Take a picture of the target. Could you bring out.
Speaker 2: There'll be a target from noon to Walmart from two
to four.
Speaker 1: Can you can you get the guy who stole it?
Can we put him in a jail cell.
Speaker 2: Raise money and you have to buy his way out?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll take a moment when we come back.
Lots of things to get into from uh. I gotta
go check this headline out that I saw just before
we came on the air.
Speaker 3: So we'll get to that more. Right after this.
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Speaker 14: Dolling, knees Fields and the hot summer sun over by
the gate. Lordie here she comes with a basketful of
chicken and a big cold Joe.
Speaker 2: The sweet tea.
Speaker 3: She thinks, my wheeloader sexy. I like this idea. We
should make that happen. Bring out the wheeloader. Take your
picture right, Get her what it would be really for
five maybe a little more? Five dollars donation. Yeah, you
get to try to you know what I mean, I
don't know, would be kind of funny.
Speaker 2: The guy studied to how to drive it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, four in the morning, till six o'clock.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta go to bed.
Speaker 3: Why what's up?
Speaker 2: I gotta go up at the morning and still still
a little bit.
Speaker 6: It's so ride my bike out to uh Henrietta so strange.
Speaker 3: Uh, Danny, you haven't been here for a couple of days.
I ask you this.
Speaker 1: Uh Buffalo Bill's going out to Los Angeles taking on
the rams.
Speaker 3: How are you feeling about it?
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about it.
Speaker 6: I mean they've done well. I love what Dean Dawkins
said today. That is quarterback right now. You know, he goes,
he's in a different headspace and he goes.
Speaker 2: He didn't assess.
Speaker 6: Blame or anything, but he says, basically, he's saying that
Allen is more present now than ever before.
Speaker 2: He's not distracted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's your caged he's getting laid on them.
Speaker 6: He didn't say that, but he's what I heard that.
Speaker 2: Oh did you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, our man on the street over at
Connors and Ferris.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 6: But I mean, I'm feeling pretty good about it now.
The one thing I wrote an article for The Times
this weekend talks about the pros and the cons of
the Buffalo Bills right now because they're tending to, but
they still are a game behind KSE in terms of
home field advanage getting a first round by They're getting
healthy at the right time.
Speaker 2: They're hitting all the numbers.
Speaker 6: There's one little thing that scares me, and that is
San Francisco cashed him for about seven yards.
Speaker 2: Acare on the ground.
Speaker 6: They if teams stop throwing the football and just run
on the bills, they have a pretty good shot at
like keeping Allen off the field. I mean, this team
scored thirty points a game the last six games. They've
gotten to takeaway in every single game. Micah Hyde's coming back.
I don't know if he's going to be you know,
he sat out the entire season. He might be on
the active roster in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's like a bonus.
Speaker 6: Really everything's looking in Buffalo's favor, but they still have
to finish the season like they did last year, not
to get in the playoffs and win the division. Now
and I got that wrapped up to make sure they
don't end up in like, Okay, we got to host
the first round playoff game. Fight our way through that.
Injuries will happen, and then the second round could put
season ends like it's last each of the last three years.
So one thing that kind of shocks me. There's a
radio station in Buffalo that we not they shouldn't shock me,
but they said, you know, they talked about Micah Hyde
coming back and his interception against the Patriots in the
playoff game out.
Speaker 2: Were you at that game? Yes, okay, it was nuts.
Speaker 6: Then he had the Taron Johnson one during the pandemic, yes,
a couple of years before or the year before. And
then there's the Carlton Bailey won in the ninety one
championship game that led them to the Super Bowl, and
most Bills fans today polled, but eighty five percent of
said it was one of the other two, Like it
was Taron Johnson or Michael Hyde them like, guys, in
what in ninety the interception from either Taron Johnson or
Michaeh Hyde was bigger in Bill's history, bigger for the
franchis than Carlton Bailey. I'm like, this is why nobody
takes Bills fans so.
Speaker 3: But probably talking to young fans who don't want.
Speaker 2: But here, if you're gonna be a Bills fan, yeah, no,
your history and Carlton Bailey.
Speaker 3: Got the back.
Speaker 2: Bailey doesn't catch that brawl and running in the end
ze for a touchdown.
Speaker 6: There's no four straight Super bowls. I mean, like it's
it's math. You do the math, you know. I was
kind of shocked by that. I feel pretty good about
the Bills. But but you know, Sean mcvay's no dummy.
He's gonna try to like poke Coles in that Bill's defense.
You can't run zone on the on the rams either. Yeah,
you gotta play man for man and that's hard.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be interesting. But I think the Bills
will pull it out. I think they'll win by a
couple of touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Uh, okay, a couple of touchdowns.
Speaker 2: But I am scared for the run defense because nobody's
really challenged him so far this year.
Speaker 1: No, they started if Christian McCaffrey did not get injured.
Speaker 2: But even if he, even if he did get hurt,
they have other running backs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but they seem
to stall out after that. Maybe I don't know. Shawn's
great at adjusting.
Speaker 6: Yeah, halftime Bobby Babitch has done a great job. Yeah,
and Sean McDermott of adjusting there. But I mean, I
do like Buffalo's chances. And of course, you know, like
this is being taped. By the time people listen to
already know the results of the Lions Packers game.
Speaker 2: But then you get the Lions in Troit and people are.
Speaker 6: Calling that the game of the year. So it's you
got to keep winning. It's not gonna be Oh no,
you gotta at least have as many losses as the
Chiefs to lock up home field advanage. If not, you're
gonna end up playing there one way or another. Or
kids city hasn't been playing well, maybe they'll lose that
first playoff game. And ed everybody and their mother's gonna
try to bud Greg Cotters to get tickets to that
AFC Championship game.
Speaker 2: You me, Kevin, I need two seats please. Uh.
Speaker 1: Now, there's a headline that I saw earlier today, just
before we were coming on the year, Okay, And I
laughed at the headline because all I saw was.
Speaker 3: Bus driver encouraged.
Speaker 1: Something and I and then I went away and I
went on my phone and the story wasn't updated yet.
Speaker 2: Now I have it.
Speaker 3: From the local NBC affiliate.
Speaker 1: Police investigating after bus driver fired for allegedly encouraging fifth
graders to fight while pulled over en route.
Speaker 2: This isn't the first time I've heard of something. So
did they have a fight club a couple of years
ago where a bus driver pulled over? Substitute bus driver?
All right, guys, duke it out.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: A local bus driver has been fired after parents and
students say he encouraged a boxing match between fifth graders.
Speaker 2: How old was he sixty?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He pulled over, he got by day, He got up
out of the seat, standing on the aisle and said, okay,
who wants to fight? Says Jelan Powell Junior, a fifth
grader at a charter school, says his bus driver encuraged
another child to fight him. He punched me, I hand
him back and we started fighting.
Speaker 2: Say that for public school. Please.
Speaker 1: The bus driver wasn't happy with the way the fight
turned out.
Speaker 2: So he's like, because he had money on the other kid.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, who else wants to fight him? So
then another boy says, I'll do it a second round
with a different student, And then the diamond, who is
Jealan's mother, says, when my son's mouth started bleeding.
Speaker 3: He didn't. He didn't give him a tissue. He didn't
turn around and go back, and he didn't give m
a standing. They learned the situation when Jeelan got off
the bus with a bloody lip. His sister rides the
same bus and solving incident, which prompted a call to
the principal.
Speaker 1: And the bus company a supervisor. Well, hang on, we
got I think we have the actual story here. Let's
just see if we can.
Speaker 2: Do at six.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, bus driver turned fight club on a
city street.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see if you're right with this. You might
be right. I don't know. Here we go, let's see
here it comes.
Speaker 2: Turning now to a News ten NBC investigation.
Speaker 6: A local bus driver fired after parents and students say
he encouraged boxing matches between fifth graders. The mother of
one of the kids involved called News TENNBC.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's been fired. Yes, all right, so it's over.
You have a Danny investigation. He's been fired. Okay, so
what's there?
Speaker 3: Don't know about the fight now.
Speaker 2: Now it's not an investigation now, it's gossip. But that's
my point.
Speaker 3: Wow, go ahead, let's get.
Speaker 6: The castigative reporter Jennifer Luki to help get answers and
some accountability.
Speaker 12: I go at Expiation charter school and I'm in fifth grade.
Speaker 17: Jellan Powell takes in Ontario bus to get to and
from that charter school every day. When he got off
Monday evening, his mom, Diamond says, he was out of
breath and had a bloody lip.
Speaker 9: He was very upset.
Speaker 7: He was still breathing hard, like it had just happened.
He had his cloth in his hands.
Speaker 17: She couldn't believe what he told her had happened.
Speaker 12: They just pulled over and then he got about the
seat standing nile and had said, okay, who want to fight?
Speaker 17: Says another child to fight for the second round?
Speaker 12: I hit him back and we started fighting.
Speaker 17: And it didn't stop there.
Speaker 7: The bus driver wasn't happy with the way to fight
turned out, so he like, no, no, no, who else
you want to fight?
Speaker 17: So then another boy says a second round with a
different student.
Speaker 7: My mouthstar believing he didn't give him a tssue, he
did turn around and go back and get in his seat.
Speaker 17: Dellion's sister runs the same bus and saw the whole thing.
Mom called the principal and Ontario Bus Company right away.
A supervisor for Ontario pulled the video from the bus's camera.
Speaker 7: They see what they needed to see in order to
fire him, and what they saw matches what my son said,
as well as the other kids that they interviewed on
the bus.
Speaker 17: The CEO of Ontario Bus Company tells me the audio
on the camera wasn't working properly the day of the
whether the driver was indeed egging on the children.
Speaker 3: Just like radio ship, Just like radio stations don't tape
every show.
Speaker 2: Oh I know right, we.
Speaker 1: Don't have tape that we could get.
Speaker 3: It doesn't exist. Get the fuck out. I've lived through
those days.
Speaker 17: He can't see in the video that the bus is
pulled over, the children are fighting, and the driver is
not doing anything to break it up. He also says
that that driver did not report to dispatch that a
fight had happened that day and didn't say anything about
it when he got back here to home base.
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna take this lightly because we don't. He
didn't just wake up and say I'm gonna have some
kids fight today, you know what I mean? Like, maybe
it's other kids that has experienced him.
Speaker 17: The executive director of Exploration Charter School sent me this
statement that reads, in part quote, we are working closely
with those involved in Ontario Bus to not only investigate
the incident, but ensure that protective measures are implemented.
Speaker 3: To your mouthguard, we're bar knuckles but it.
Speaker 17: Transportation director told the family quote, I met you today
when I was in Ontario Bus Company. I stayed there
and viewed the video of the incident. You told me
the drivers did happen. I can confirm the driver was fired.
If you would like to press charges, please contact the police.
Speaker 2: The driver's gonna wear a short sleeve blue shirt and
a bow tie.
Speaker 7: He's not going to just be put on a different
route to do it some more kids.
Speaker 8: We not.
Speaker 7: He's not going to just get fired and be able
to go work for first student. No, he don't need
to work for no, No, nothing that got something to
do with kids.
Speaker 13: He talks.
Speaker 17: The Ontario Bus CEO says the driver started working for
the company at the start of this school year. He
has had it and Ontario will cooperate with any outside
All right.
Speaker 3: So there's the story from them.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize I should know better than this.
Speaker 6: But never, never, dawned down me because I went to
a small school. The school district employed the buses and
the bus driver. I didn't realize they outsourced.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bus Carson, it's a bus companies for like the
city and some other places. Your kids.
Speaker 2: It was really bad.
Speaker 3: Well, like Fairport has their own. Yeah, they'll say, Victor
has their own.
Speaker 2: They's got Chinter school kids, the School of the Arts kids.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what, man, there's this one kid over
at Monroe Avenue School.
Speaker 2: That guy can fight.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing is, like I remember as a kid,
the bus driver pulling over because we were so loud
and obnoxious and throwing ship and all this pulling over
to getting up out of the seat and screaming, screaming
at us. And then I think even like kids fighting
and stuff, it wasn't uncommon to see a fight in.
Speaker 3: That in the.
Speaker 2: School called Thursday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I remember, like this one kid, Lauren Pickering.
Speaker 1: What a great name that is. Lauren was a big
burly kid, and but he was he was Lauren. Yeah,
l O R I n like Lauren Michaels.
Speaker 2: I thought about Lauren like a boy named Laura one fights.
Speaker 3: No, So Lauren was and I remember him.
Speaker 1: Uh, this other kid, little guy got up and sucked
him right in the face, and they just stunned him.
Speaker 3: But as time went on, Lauren was a big dude
when he you know, as he got older.
Speaker 1: But at that time he's probably just a little fat guy,
and he was a bit of a bully. And I
remember this kid, like a year younger than them, got
up and popped and right in the face.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you so, if you're a bus driver,
you gotta be the You have to maintain order on
the first day. You have to set the tone.
Speaker 6: And man, when you do those kids for you, you're
not gonna have a problem the rest of the year.
Speaker 2: We had a few bus drivers in my day. Man,
they set the tone. You did not mess with.
Speaker 3: I had to.
Speaker 1: I had the same bus driver from kindergarten and up
to my senior year, missus.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: There were two of them. One was oh god, missus Canburn.
She was one and her son Garrett was just an asshole.
And then uh, missus let's see.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: I had a song for her because she was short
and fat. Oh missus Barry, I just got it because
of the song. H yeah, missus, she's two feet high
and four feet wide. She wears those shape. It's upon
her eyes.
Speaker 3: She's my.
Speaker 1: Very so I saw he used to sing that at
the top of my lungs. You would think this woman
will want to drop kick me out of the bus.
But she was so sweet and she I think she
was my bus driver from kindergarten right on. Yeah, oh wow.
Speaker 6: So we had uh when we moved up to my
grandparents' house and took that over. We had two bus
forty nine and we had two bus drivers. We had Ron,
this old guy all right, Dan, I go doing one money,
and then we had this woman and then he got
sick and one in the hospital had to retire, so
he was like the seventies new driver, so we replaced
him with Missus Michaels.
Speaker 2: Missus Michaels was strict from day one.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: She laid down the.
Speaker 6: Lawn once you got to do or. She was actually
pretty cool. Well years go by.
Speaker 2: I go to college, then I go into radio. Then
I lose by radio job. My dad's dying.
Speaker 6: I go home and I'm in the driveway in about
seven twenty in the morning and Miss Michael slows down
Bus forty nine, which then became bus seventy.
Speaker 2: Dan, how are you? How's life? I I lost my job.
Speaker 3: I didn't say it out.
Speaker 2: That's good hiring.
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, this is my life right now. The
bus still comes by. What did I do with my life?
I went to radio and lost my My father was
dying in the house, and I'm just like, I happen
to be out taking the trash out because I.
Speaker 2: Was home visiting, and I'm like, this is where my
life is. The bus is going by. What did I
do with myself?
Speaker 3: Oh? Gosh, well, I uh, You've done great things with yourself.
I know you're never wrong and never wrong, never get
it wrong.
Speaker 2: Just just gotta keep on moving, keep moving forward.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all you do. Yeah, change your mindset a
little bit, you know.
Speaker 2: I'll say this, I chased my dream.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: A lot of people like you know, don't do that.
They take the safer route, and good for them. Yeah,
good for them.
Speaker 2: I went all in, man, I went all in.
Speaker 3: Yeah I did too, And you know I worked out
for you. Yeah, you did really well. Man. I know
we're all here, daddy. That's right I have to say.
Speaker 1: And we'll get more into this when we do the
second anniversary thing.
Speaker 3: But I've I kind of like this more.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we've talked about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I talk about it.
Speaker 2: It's the conversation that from radio when the MIC's were off. Yeah,
the stuff we talked about, how to.
Speaker 3: Do that stuff?
Speaker 2: Five twenty Every Morning, Tommy Walks and Brown. Check this out.
You hear what happened last night?
Speaker 3: Every Day.
Speaker 6: The Gossip column Sally Carpenter Old, Fred, you should say
I used to believe women were more you know, and
then that you guys would trust me.
Speaker 2: It's men. Men are way more gossipy than we.
Speaker 3: She was right, Yeah, yeah, she was.
Speaker 2: Have you talked to her over the years. I haven't either.
I've tried to reaching out to her, but I haven't
heard it.
Speaker 3: I've been Yeah, I was bad at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not easy to stay in touch your your
life moves on.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, I don't know. Even now, I feel
bad because things get so busy with different.
Speaker 6: Things, especially like with the holiday is coming up now.
It's like it's gonna be Christmas before you know it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're twenty days away right now. Yes, yeah, it's
December fifth.
Speaker 6: My wife's already like, okay, so what are we doing
I'm like, I don't know. We just got done with Thanksgiving.
You know, with my family, we don't plan anything. It
just kind of happened. I know, my brother just flew
back to Florida.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, that's always my thing too, is that I
don't plan enough and whatever. Now that I have Jamison
and stuff, I mean, I've been a little better at that,
but I mean.
Speaker 3: He just guess to me a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I can imagine.
Speaker 3: He started to cook last night.
Speaker 1: I've so I've been trying to eat different from him
because I realized I've ballooned up a bit. So I'm like, well,
first of all, change the diet. Then we'll get some
workouts going and we'll figure that out schedule wise. But
in the meantime, I've been I went back to what
I used to call and I even said it to
a kid.
Speaker 3: Today, and I go, I wonder if I'm allowed to
say that. But I had I used to eat two
boiled eggs in an apple. I would call my prison breakfast.
But it's balanced, it is and it's good, and that's
what you know.
Speaker 1: So I had that, But and I've been trying to
so I had chicken in the fridge and then a
bunch of chicken in the freezer. Put the chicken in
the fridge, I could just throw in the air fyre,
flip it over, boom, chop it up, season it, throw,
you know, have seasoned it while I cooked it, and
then throw it over a salad or something. I come
home last night from doing the podcast and I come in.
I go, wow, it smells good here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'm making such and such a thing. I
used all the chicken that was in the fridge.
Speaker 2: I go, what, And my wife gets on me for
the same stuff.
Speaker 1: Batter made a batter for this. One was a spicy batter,
and one was another one. One actually had Captain crunching it.
It's like living with Elf. I have no idea what's
going on, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So he makes all this stuff.
Speaker 1: There's all this extra battery or alf no, well both,
so I don't say anything. I go, I'm just gonna
let this go. I wound up eating some of it
and it was actually pretty good.
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, it made so much batter. I thought
there was more chicken. We could use it again. I go,
I'm not sure about this. So that's in the fridge
and everything. Thing is a mess, and he tried to
clean it up. I did not supervise, did not say anything.
I came home this afternoon before coming over here actually
picking him up and after basketball, and it took me
an hour to get the kitchen back to what I
call ground zero.
Speaker 1: And I haven't even touched the floor yet. I just
got the counters clean, all the dishes, got done, all
this stuff to sink.
Speaker 3: I mean just I'm like, I can't live that way.
And that's the stuff.
Speaker 1: And I go, man if I when I was a kid,
and I know my parents will probably tell me that
this would have never happened, but I would have been
chewed at, screamed at. And I'm like, I don't want
to I don't have time to do that. I don't
have time to wait for him to clean this up.
It's it's not that big a place.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 1: I gotta I'll certainly have the conversation to go, buddy,
you clean. And he did try, but I mean, I'm
I'm looking at you know, hot sauce stains all over
the counters.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was a fucking mess.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so with my wife, you know, we don't have kids, obviously,
but you know I My job is to make sure
the kitchen remains clean at all times. Her job is
to maintain the groceries and cook dinner because if I
used to stow, I'll screw it up. And it's funny
because I now my wife is such a meticulous planner
that I actually have to text her at work, hey.
Speaker 2: Can I eat this?
Speaker 6: Not because she'll yell at me if I eat it,
but she might be planning it for something else and
I have to beat ready in case, did you write the.
Speaker 2: Blueberries that was supposed to be for a special pun?
Speaker 1: I totally get it. Yeah, because when I was married
it was the same thing. Yeah, who wait, all blah
blah blah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like dad told us a good die. I was like, yep, yep, yep,
all right, we're gonna take a moment. There's some This
story is outrageous. I'm not all that familiar with it.
Speaker 2: Is it the Golden ball story?
Speaker 1: This is a couple who have a daughter that being
harassed at school by what they from what I and
I'm just going I didn't want to look too much
into this because I even.
Speaker 3: Want to tell them. I want to play.
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate a little bit here or ask them some
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Speaker 2: Is bullied picked on occasionally, they're not bullied. I mean,
like nothing like that.
Speaker 1: When I was uh, I went to a really small school,
so it was great seven through twelve, and I used to.
Speaker 3: Love, love to roast the older guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just was fucking relentless, and they they
turned me up to They tried to give me a
swirling and I grabbed onto the panel in between stalls
and I would not let go and they couldn't get
my hands off, so they left me, and I was
upside down all the time. That was probably about the
worst that got. But then we hear about the you know,
the bullying. And I had my older sons who are
in their early twenties. Now certainly there was things with
Snapchat and stuff in the probably around twenty twelve that
has happened. And then I have a fourteen year old son,
and so I see a lot of the stuff. I
hear a lot of this stuff the problem that I think,
and I don't know how parents. I don't know what
the right way to handle any of this stuff is.
But it doesn't go away. You used to go home,
you could shut your door, and I was like, whew,
all I have to worry about is you know, mom
yelling at my room isn't cleaned up, or maybe my
brother's stealing something from me.
Speaker 3: Ye, that kind of stuff. But you got to break, right,
You got to break.
Speaker 1: And now it's like it's NonStop, it's it's it can
become relentless, I would assume, And I think, like, how
do you end it right? You can take your kid's
phone away so they don't see it, but that doesn't
mean it doesn't stop and while other kids are seeing it.
And that's where I always go. The only thing I
can think to do is try to build your kids
self esteem and get them to really believe in themselves.
And I always think, like real self esteem and saying hey,
you're the best. It's when they get a good grade. Man,
I knew you could do it, and you know that
success builds upon success.
Speaker 3: Coaches you steal.
Speaker 1: Coach would yell at when you won and be a
little softer on when we lost. And it was always
something that stuck with me and I go, yeah, because
you can push people further. That's the only thing I
can think to shield against this. But I mean, when
it's just NonStop, I don't know what the hell you do.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: The reason I'm bringing this up is I got a
message today from a gentleman named Sean Sick, and I
believe I'm sure I'll be corrected in the moment if
I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: His wife's name is Jen and they have an unbelievable
story and a ton of their friends are supporting them
and watching the podcast on our Facebook pages and and
YouTube as well, and I will bring them on.
Speaker 3: There they are. And and is that your your daughter
as well? Hang on one second, I got to get
rid of the.
Speaker 6: The disco music, the dance music, club the club music,
the club music in the background.
Speaker 3: Wasn't the clubs? And spencer Port, Yeah, you don't know
about the night life in spencer Bud right on the canal.
It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Your money's always accepted it park, it's right. And look,
Jimmy Z's is closed down. They should turn that space.
Yeah right, Well that's Brockport and I.
Speaker 2: Spend Yeah, that's a port. Right.
Speaker 1: I'm glad your daughter's there as well. How how may
I ask how old she is?
Speaker 3: How old are you?
Speaker 9: This is Leah, She's thirteen, She's thirteen.
Speaker 3: Is she the person we're talking about?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, so Leah's thirteen? And does that make Leah in
eighth grade?
Speaker 13: Yes? Okay, those are And my name is Kim by the.
Speaker 1: Way, Kim, I'm sorry. I don't know why I thought Jen. Yeah,
but you know, I don't know that I'm gonna blame Sean.
I'm gonna blame I'm going to blame mister Sick here.
And what a great name, mister Sick. That's awesome, But
I would blame him because I he said to me
at one point, I have to check with my wife
to see if you know schedules and things like that. Right,
that's usually when I was married that I didn't know
the schedule. Ever, maybe that's why I'm not still married.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: But either way, but tell me kind of what what
was happening or what's been going on? Because this the
and I don't want to say it. Forgive me for
the lack of vocabulary, but the story and it's not
really story, the truth that you're telling or your version
of what's happening is uh, boy, that's disturbing Sean. What
Sean wrote? So, who wants to who wants to start there?
Speaker 13: Kim So Lee is in eighth grade and she's been,
you know, bullied a little bit here and there since
the beginning of the school year, first by some girls,
and now it kind of progressed into boys, a couple
in particular. We're just relentless every day bullying her, picking
on her, seeking her out.
Speaker 1: Can I ask Leah a question? I'm assuming have you
you're not new to the district.
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 3: So are these kids you you knew all your life? Yeah?
Speaker 13: Yeah, sounds like sixth grade.
Speaker 3: Since sixth grade? And were they problems in sixth and
seventh grade?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh they were. So now it's just it's just progressed
that dramas and beat a little harder. Okay, gotcha right.
Speaker 13: So on Friday the twenty second, I get a phone
call from Leah. I was actually at ub with on
a college tour with my older daughter and my husband
was at work, and she called us at the end
of the day and said, Mom, I just got jumped
by six boys, but I don't want to get in
trouble because I hit back. I was like, what we
went back up?
Speaker 14: What?
Speaker 13: And she said, yeah, six boys were waiting by my
locker and when I came by, they all bum rushed
me and jumped me.
Speaker 3: Leah what, Yes, Can I ask her questions to or
do you not want her to talk about that? Yeah?
Speaker 13: Please?
Speaker 3: So Leo jumped That sounds to me like they tackled
you and grabbed you and threw you to the ground.
I don't know.
Speaker 13: Then didn't like throw me to the ground.
Speaker 16: They just like slammed me and like put like kind
of like put their hands on me.
Speaker 13: Like it all happened like so fast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like they saw the video.
Speaker 13: It happens to me so fast. So it was caught
on camera from the hallway footage. Thank god.
Speaker 3: Does spencer Port have a rule?
Speaker 1: I remember this from my kids, you couldn't throw hands,
because I did go in and see video in Pittsford
when my kids were there and my son said that
I swear to god, I didn't punch him. So I
went in and saw the video and I well, he
didn't punch him. But I think the rule was no
hands and it was a suspension for five days when
that stuff happens. This is a long time ago. So
is that the same thing in Spencer Port?
Speaker 13: Well, yeah, they put hands on her.
Speaker 9: Yeah, three of the six.
Speaker 13: Three of the six, but it was six.
Speaker 3: Boys, Okay, which is intimidating. I mean that that that
right there alone is intimidating Mary. Yeah.
Speaker 13: Yes, So she was obviously very upset, and I, like
I said, I was somewhere. He was at work, and
we were calling, calling the school. Nobody's answering, nobody's calling us.
I'm freaking out, like what's going on? She got home safe,
and then you know what happened then, like, did somebody
finally call you? Yes, somebody finally called him and told them. Okay,
you know we know what happened. It's on the camera.
So we're gonna investigate this. Okay, can we see the
video please. This was on a Friday. Yeah, yeah, sure,
Monday comes along. Actually, So that night that Friday, we
started getting prank phone calls all night.
Speaker 3: Prank phone calls to your house. Do you have a
home phone?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 13: It started with Sean and Leah's phone.
Speaker 3: How did they get your number, Sean?
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 1: So they somebody that it's called doc. When they go right,
and they can find it. It's only doction when they
put it out there, when I say out there on
the internet or something. So they found your phone and
they're calling you all night, all night hold off?
Speaker 3: That was on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like why what's THEA?
Speaker 9: And this was just one night.
Speaker 1: This was Let me pause for just a second. I
sometimes because we're not on government air, this is a podcast, right,
so sometimes the language can be a little course and
I if I drop something is that, I don't want
to do it in front of your daughter. If that's
not how you speak.
Speaker 9: It's she's she's heard it.
Speaker 3: Well, I bet those podcast kids said something when they
were doing this, right, Leah. They didn't use friendly language
at all. That's right.
Speaker 1: Okay, So they're calling you all night. You don't know
how they they got the number. At that point, I
would assume that's harassment. Couldn't you file a police report?
Speaker 9: I had reached out to a few different people.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I guess I was just hoping that it would go away.
Speaker 1: Sure, you don't want to well, you don't want to
make it like a mountain out of a mole hill
or be like you know, I get it. I would
probably have done the same thing. Do you know any
of the families of these kids?
Speaker 13: We know, I don't really want to say.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, just because it's.
Speaker 13: Still ongoing with the so let me back up. We
had to file what's called a DACER report at the school,
right Dignity for all Students Act. Anytime there's bullying or
intimidation or anything like that, this report has to be
filed at the school and then they have to investigate it.
So after seeing the footage, the school gave the boys
three days of suspension. So they had, yeah, Monday and
Tuesday day off and then Wednesday, Thursday. Friday was Thanksgiving,
so they had those days off anyway, and then the
weekend and then the next Monday. So those that was
their suspension, that was their punishment.
Speaker 3: Okay, so they probably ast.
Speaker 13: Yeah, the Gassla report is still being investigated and worked on.
They have since returned to school. They came back to
school on Tuesday. So in the meantime, Leah has to
be escorted all around the school. Okay, she always has
to have someone watching her. You know, she's she didn't
want to go to school at first, but then she said,
screw that. I'm going to school. It's my school, not
going to be scared. So we're still investigating. So the phone,
the phone situation got really bad. We're talking about like
very vile sexual threats, disgusting, disgusting things were being said.
One kid threatened to throw a pipe bomb at our house.
And this is all being recorded, all of it, every time.
Speaker 3: Are these boy I have a lot of questions.
Speaker 13: I bet you do.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of questions, but you can't.
Speaker 1: I feel like I got to be careful where I
step in some area because boy, teachers have a really
really tough job because you're trying to then teach around this, right,
and you've got a kid who's so distracted because something's
happening in the hallway or the anticipation of that, and
then you've got to get their test scores up by
ten points and you've got fifteen to thirty kids in
the classroom, I would assume, and it's like, holy god,
it just sounds awful, And what's going on with somebody
just texted in? Because we can see all the messages.
The most they will do in the high school is
have them sign a no contact contact contract tract. Well,
she wrote contact, the type of contract and put them
in academy where they're still in the same building. As
if a piece of paper is enough to discipline. You
know what that sounds like. It sounds like when I
go and say, I want what is it? What's the
piece of paper that we say everybody violates all the time?
Speaker 3: Order of protection?
Speaker 1: It sounds like an order of protection which means nothing
a lot of times. Right, Okay, So I'm sorry to
interrupt your story. So the harassment, the pipe bomb through
the window, they sound like really really great future terrorists.
Speaker 9: Yeah, especially with one of them. When he said that,
he pulled up a picture of my wife and her
age and her phone number and then scrolled down to
our address.
Speaker 13: And so just also, this is all the FaceTime group calls.
So that's how we can, like when you screen share
on those FaceTime group calls, you can you know, show
whatever you want on the screen. So these boys, half
of them would have their cameras on. There were girls
in there laughing along like it was funny. And then
you know, every phone number we could see.
Speaker 3: What about her friends. Are any of her friends trying
to stick up for her anyway?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, But they weren't included in any of these.
They didn't know this was going on all weekend. For
some reason, they went from his phone to my phone.
So they just started relentlessly calling, calling, calling, and we
would just recorded every time and they would just say
just they didn't care.
Speaker 9: Every fifteen to thirty seconds, we were getting the call,
the FaceTime calls to the point where we called Grease police.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and okay, somebody somebody just text it in.
Speaker 1: Let me see here, because I just want to thank
sure I have it. Somebody texted in saying ask her
what they said they would do to her?
Speaker 9: Mom?
Speaker 3: Is this?
Speaker 1: Well, somebody just texted this in, So I don't know
and how a policeman was there and they still did it?
Speaker 9: What does it?
Speaker 3: What does that mean?
Speaker 9: So we had called the police because at this point
it was like day number two or three.
Speaker 3: So is this a Monroe County Sheriff's department that comes
out or do you have your own police in Spenceport on?
Speaker 9: So we well, our daughter goes to Spencerport, but were
technically in the in Greece. Okay, So we had Greece
come out, the Greece police, and while they were taking
you know, our statement. Kim's phone is just constantly going off,
to the point where the police officer was like, give
me that phone, and he got right onto the camera
and was like, hey boys. They hung up and fifteen
seconds later they're calling again. They don't care.
Speaker 13: Yeah, they're laughing.
Speaker 3: Right, because there's nothing that can really be done. So
why your daughter, and I asked that, and to play
devil's advocate a little bit, has she done anything to
encourage this stuff?
Speaker 1: Or I know, I know you get this kind of
question would infuriate, right, But I'm just saying that people.
People got to think something like, hey, hang on a second,
your daughter can't be innocent in all this.
Speaker 13: But but you're right, oh, you're right. Honestly, it's not
just her, like it's definitely you know, they are at
least to everybody, even people in the community. They go
on the community and mess with people at tops or
the churches or whatever.
Speaker 3: You know what it is.
Speaker 1: You know what this is where to god, it's the
fucking shit Internet. All the time they're watching this stuff NonStop.
It is consumed twenty four fucking seven of these kids
don't sleep a proper amount anymore. These the fucking phone.
I have excuse me, I'm sorry, but I have a
fourteen year old son, and I see this stuff and
we wonder what people want to go.
Speaker 3: Oh, the attention SPAN's gotten.
Speaker 1: Soci no shit, it's gotten short, right, you know the
guys who invented this. I always say something that an
uncle of mine said, the world has been designed by
geniuses to be run by idiots. And it's idiots that right,
they figure this out. And what's the good of the
communication if it's just gonna be? But these are I'm
thinking thirteen twelve to fourteen year old boys, which I
mean it's Lord of the Fly.
Speaker 6: I guess my question is the parents, like, where are
they're I mean, I'm not blaming the parents, I'm saying
where are they Have they responded?
Speaker 2: Have they said anything?
Speaker 3: Because I guess here's the other side.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming too much.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think you're assuming too much. I'm sure
that's a question that many many people have. But on
the other side, you go, maybe forgive me, maybe one
of the kids is broken home and one parent and
they're working all the time to try to keep food lights,
all this shit going on, and the kid just gets
to do whatever they want.
Speaker 3: They're like feral are feral kids that.
Speaker 1: Get to and it's not any real fault of anybody, right,
but you want to get this under control.
Speaker 3: What happened to just being nice?
Speaker 1: Because I got to think somewhere along the line, somebody's
going to do this back at some point, I would hope.
Speaker 13: I don't know, so we're not exactly sure, like I mean,
like I said, it started with a girl in the
beginning of the year bullying her, and then these boys
just kind of took over. And we don't know she's
she's a sweet girl. She likes to go to school,
play her sports, she doesn't bother anybody. I haven't heard
any differently from anybody, like I don't. We don't know
why it was her, But what we're afraid of is
now it's going to be somebody else, and we're actually
getting messages that they're pressing other people.
Speaker 3: Now, okay, so all right, let's let's let's go with this.
Speaker 1: I get there's messages coming in on all our social
media platforms that we're on right now. They are a
group of boys that have parents that don't care and
are known by the Ogden Police Department. Yes, okay, somebody
else says it is parenting.
Speaker 3: Where are the parents? Uh? What about the elderly in town? Like,
what the fuck is wrong with them?
Speaker 2: What is that they building the elderly?
Speaker 6: Because I've heard a story about something like that in
Churchville lately, or like with the traffic on a Sunday
Sport that.
Speaker 3: Was spencer Port with the bikes riding around? Is this
those kids?
Speaker 13: Yes?
Speaker 3: Holy shit, I did. I was thinking about that myself
because I go, I have some reason I thought I
was Churchville.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. No, Yeah, spencer Port.
Speaker 3: Well, because it's more of a church fill behavior. Spencer
Port's like it's a little town. No, seriously, it's very
east side.
Speaker 1: I love Spencer Report like that would be the only
west side town I'd live in.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm serious, I'm not kidding. It's it's beautiful. It's
so nice along the can and stuff.
Speaker 13: That's why we wanted to live. Yes, and I will
say my daughter is a senior this year, and she's
had a great experience through the years. You know, great athletic.
Speaker 3: Did you did you know the Laeduca's out there, the
Laduca family, Greg, Yes.
Speaker 9: Yes, very well.
Speaker 13: She was my she was Leah's preschool teacher.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Greg and I went to Saint John Fisher together.
I could tell you some real stories about Greg.
Speaker 3: No, but all his sons. Right. There were big baseball
players there, and he talked about.
Speaker 1: The district, how great it was, and I we had
considered Spencer report, uh at some point.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's disturbing to hear this, and it's more disturbing that,
like there, these kids are just blatant, man, They're just
it's school it there's no boundaries. There's no boundaries with them.
Speaker 9: It's because they know that nobody's gonna do anything to them.
We had one kid tell us, uh, you can post
all you want on Facebook. That's not going to stop
our reign of terror.
Speaker 1: Somebody, somebody just message saying that someone someone's saying this
is one side of the story. So okay, I don't know.
Somebody else said that there was a post and discussion
that someone who's in media had and they made it
believe this was against a transgender student and they just
wrote this, she doesn't appear transgender, not that it would
make it okay, trying to figure out what she might
have done or said for this harsh reaction again, not
that it makes it okay.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Then they said are they minority students? Did they say
something that came across as races to one initial girl
and she rounded up her posse. That is what my
gut is telling me. This is a text that somebody
wrote in. I don't know what you say to that stuff.
It sounds to me like we all saw the story
in the news. You saw it, Danny h Car and
some guy didn't somebody pull up in a truck. Yeah,
the kids left laughing, and like the lady was.
Speaker 6: Somebody went to help her, the old elderly lady, and
then they were bullying the person that went to help.
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody says, the kids need to be permanently expelled. Kim,
are you on here? I just saw Kim from Yes.
Kim answered yes to something.
Speaker 3: I see it.
Speaker 1: I see it over here, and my thing, I see
Kim sick. That's a great last name, by the way,
I mean that is sick. So what happens? Where do
we go from here? What is the school doing other
than the three day suspension? Intimidation in the hallway Sometimes
they can offer schedules, so your kid isn't like even
in the hallway at the same time, different lunches, I
don't know.
Speaker 13: So they changed some schedules around so they weren't in
any classes with her, and unfortunately she did on the
first day back when they came back, she did see
them in the hallway and had a little pang attack
because they were high fiving and laughing. And then the
first day back they also one of them said let's
start some rumors about Leah, so that was reported, and
then she's she has like a shadow, somebody her counselor
or somebody in age following her around all day, which
she doesn't like, Like she doesn't want to feel.
Speaker 3: No, you look, you're you're singled out, you know.
Speaker 13: Yeah, right, But until this DASA investigation is done, they
are allowed to be there, and they are allowed to
go to class, and they're allowed to play sports and
be on athletic teams.
Speaker 1: Right now, somebody says, somebody wrote in classic victim blaming, unreal.
Speaker 3: What do you think they're referring to? Somebody's asking, yeah, right,
Like I know I brought it up, but I do
that because I do think there's a portion of the
audience that's thinking.
Speaker 6: Well, well, there's always somebody who's going to think about Okay,
there's two sides, three sides to every story, like they said,
And I understand that's a natural thought.
Speaker 3: Prob Have you talked to the counselors at the school
sometimes the.
Speaker 13: Count know, well, I mean she she has a counselor
that she has. We're very well familiar with him. We
talked to him a lot because she's in the counselor
in office a lot. She does have anxiety and depression.
You know, she does deal with that already. She cries
a lot at school, which is I think another reason
why these boys target her. Because she's an easy target,
She's an easy victim.
Speaker 1: Why does she she cries a lot at school because
of them?
Speaker 13: Them? And because she just has anxiety.
Speaker 3: A lot of times? All right?
Speaker 13: You know she's she's struggling with her grades right now
and it's hard on her.
Speaker 1: And do they I'm going to keep cutting you off,
which is terrible.
Speaker 3: This is a podcast, it's not real, real entertainment.
Speaker 1: Uh, maybe this is why these kids are after even
after being suspended, continued to rassle. They attacked because they
thought she was gay. They made racist comments, mock special
needs kids. Did they think your daughter was gay.
Speaker 13: That was that was something that the girl bully started that. Okay,
okay started that going around school, and then that was
a whole other thing. Leah got in trouble for confronting
her because she wanted to know why she started that rumor.
So Lea got talked to for confronting this girl about
bullying her.
Speaker 1: Now, I really thought, because I will tell you, like,
I'm an old guy. I graduated high school back in
the eighties.
Speaker 3: That's how old I am. And the nineteen eighties it.
Speaker 1: Was the last year of the eighties. But my point
is back then the worst thing I'll be really raw
with you. I was molested as a child by a babysitter,
and I kept it the biggest secret in the world.
But I so I stayed away from girls in high
school and stuff because I thought they would be able
to tell that I had done gay things. I was seven,
but I had done gay things. So the worst thing
I could be was gay, I thought. In twenty two,
twenty four.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: That we were a little more I don't know, accepting,
you know, I mean, I we see things about transgender
we just I.
Speaker 2: Just is it adults that are more accepting the kids
never have never.
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, man, I really agree with that.
What that the adults are more accepting and the kids
are not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the kids have always been a holes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: I've always said this, like your kid isn't like I
have to be careful because I don't have kids. Okay,
I don't have kids. I got my own problems.
Speaker 3: Thank god.
Speaker 2: I've had two marriages.
Speaker 3: Okay, that kid would have bullied you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I've had an next wife bullied me too.
I know what it's like. My carl wife bullies me.
My wife I should say, I should say current wife.
Speaker 6: But the thing is is like my wife's a teacher,
so she deals with this kind of stuff from students
like that.
Speaker 2: They're all the same. Kids don't know anything.
Speaker 6: They just they will They're like water, right, they will
get away with as much as you let them get
away with, and they're never going to change. They're always
going to be, you know, jackwagons or what. There's gonna
be your good kids and your bad kids. Your bad
kids just seem to get worse.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 6: Your good kids are good, yeah, but you don't really
get much better than good.
Speaker 1: But here's I just thought the kids overall were just
a little more tolerant. And I really thought that high
school now, I thought that even in when my guys
were grown up, like they were more accepting of gay
and different and all that.
Speaker 6: The boy parents, you guys were you and your wife
at the time, were more like educational with your kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but even the school itself, like they were just
more accepting and there was no and the bullying that
was he liked a girl and somebody recorded it him
talking to a friend not knowing he's being recorded, naming
the girl, and.
Speaker 3: Then they put it out on Snapchat.
Speaker 1: Well that would crush it, right, because all right, but
it's really not all that. I'll get in trouble for
saying this from family members, but it's not all that much.
It's not bullying where I'm throwing you again. It's the
locker and making you afraid to walk the hallway. It's
it's kind of like.
Speaker 3: You know, hey, daddy likes kid. You know I mean
that that that's sort of what it is. That one.
But this I'm I'm surprised to hear that about the gate.
Speaker 1: More texts coming in ask if they are confident the
same boys and the first and in we did that one.
Why would the parents say anything when these people are
blasting social media and blasting misinformation, meaning you guys, okay,
one side of the story. Not the same boys who
made the calls. She almost hit the kid first. So
this is someone who's familiar that's texting the school.
Speaker 9: It's on video. They have the boys on one side
of the hall, right in a line, laughing and waiting.
She comes up the hall, They surround her, They run
at her, surround her body, slammer thrower into the lockers.
Speaker 3: The school was watching.
Speaker 9: He immediately got up and started swinging.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the school was watching the boys and her. They
haven't done anything more. It sounds like almost a parent
of one of the boys. The boys did. The boys
did something wrong, they got a consequence, and they are
remorseful and try to apologize.
Speaker 9: I would accept that apology, but I know three of them,
at least or four. This is multiple times that they've
been in trouble.
Speaker 3: For this, Okay.
Speaker 9: I have had over a dozen parents reach out to
me and without us naming any names, named the boys that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, identifying them, just knowing, without knowing, saying are these guys, yeah,
the boys that were part of Okay, so let's see
and try to apologize. The boys that were part of
the first incident are not the same boys that threaten them.
The family just the family just wants attention, attention. Okay,
sure you want this kind of attentions.
Speaker 3: Really, this is not.
Speaker 1: I think there might be other ways to do to
get attention. I'm I'm as sure that this isn't it.
Speaker 9: And the boys that were part of the incident at school,
I have them on camera with the whole face time.
Speaker 13: Yeah, they were on the phone calls. They just didn't
do the threat.
Speaker 1: They talk about the laws, talk about the laws in
New York State. What are the laws juvenile laws, this
person says. And then they also tell your daughter to
kill herself.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yes they did. And me and you, yeah, they
told me to kill myself. Yeah.
Speaker 9: And that goes back to the whole like the gay thing.
You know, So now they you know, like you said,
it's twenty twenty four. I don't care if you're straight, gay,
bye whatever. She's thirteen, she's thirteen.
Speaker 13: She doesn't know.
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying. Look, I don't hear.
Speaker 1: If the kid says your transgender, I'm okay. In my
head my first instinct, you don't really know. Well, I'm
not going to argue with you. Be whatever you want.
Speaker 3: I'm fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody said, I called the counselor the same day
it happened. This is a Katie. Do you know Katie
Katie with a C, not a K. No, I would
say her last name, but I don't want to get
anybody in trouble. I called the counselor of the same
day it happened. Also called the assistant principle. I heard
back from the assistant principle today, who knew nothing about
the incident. They are also reviewing cameras because Ze and
her friends purposely ran into my daughter and her friend
in the hall.
Speaker 13: Okay, so they're talking about a different person, not one
of the boys. But yeah, yeah, that's I have a
feeling I know what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so there's another incident. So there's been
a number of incidents. Uh, this is not Leah's fault.
She's been targeted by others.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Somebody writes, irregardless, regardless, it's not a reason for boys
to physically sell a fil.
Speaker 3: That's the part that I Yeah, I don't care for that.
I'm sorry, Like I thought, maybe I sounded a little
misogynistic in old school, but what are you doing to
a girl? The girls?
Speaker 13: Girl is tiny? She's tiny and six boys coming at
her athletes.
Speaker 9: Are much taller than her. Yeah, who comes up with that?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: That is a different ince in that Katie is talking about.
So somebody, Okay, so with all this stuff, have you
considered And this is terrible, but have you considered how
many kids do you have?
Speaker 3: Just the two?
Speaker 1: Yes, so one will be going to college. Would you
consider uh having your daughter? In New York State, you
have the right to a public education and so they
have to make accommodations, and it sounds like they're trying
with the You know, she's got her own sentry following
her around, right, right, but would you consider taking putting
her in a different school.
Speaker 13: We've brought that up because we want her to be
happy and feel safe, right, And she keeps saying, no,
I don't want to leave my school. I like, I
want to stay. I want to stay at my school
for now. And look, middle school is a nightmare, right,
I mean, I'm sure everybody can agree with that.
Speaker 3: And this sounds way worse.
Speaker 13: Beyond like I said, my other daughter has had a
wonderful experience. She's enjoyed high school. I mean, I don't
know that high school is going to be any more
better or if it's going to be worse. But until
she says she wants to go look at another school,
we're going to fight and keep her there so she
can stay where she wants to be, Because, like you said,
it's a.
Speaker 3: Right do you have.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like the district, the district itself, or
at least at the building level, are they responsive to you.
Speaker 13: When we push? We couldn't. We kept demanding to see
the video because we wanted to see it. We wanted
to see what happened. And we had to push for
five days until they finally let us see it. And
it was disturbing to us, obviously, as parents seen six
boys rush your daughter in the halloway and slammer into
lockers and then to harass us for ten days after
on the phone, Like, yeah, we're pushing for everything, and
I understand the school district has to take certain steps
and do things a certain way, but they could have,
in my opinion, definitely issued a better punishment than three
day suspension.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, three day suspension for putting hands in somebody.
I always thought it was like an automatic five day
and then what what can also happen I think in
public schools is if the principle deems the action something
that would do the punishment needs more than five days,
then there's a superintendent's hearing. And then those can be
uncomfortable because you guys could go in and represent yourselves
or hire a lawyer, and they can cross examine kids
like they bring the kids into witness Now those kids,
I believe their parents are allowed to be there as
well to make sure that you know their kids. But
who wants to get to all that shit? And yet
at the same time, why are in a world that
we have bully awareness and you know, be kind and
all this stuff that how is this allowed? And somebody
said still allowed to wrestle? Did we say that some
of the boys are on the wrestling team. Yes, this
grade in particular has been a challenge for the building.
There are a number of ringleaders, yes, but there are
many many followers. That's an issue overall. Pepper spray. Somebody
says self defense classes. I know parents can't put their
hands on these punks, but maybe a group of bigger,
tougher kids can. Unofficially, of course, somebody else says they
don't now this guy Ron He just writes they don't
have the balls to stand up to these kids.
Speaker 3: The school needs to have their back. The problem is
your hands are tied. And at the same time it
sounds like, and I don't know, you have two kids.
Sometimes I would let the rules of the playground kind
of play out, right.
Speaker 1: You got to learn to just kind of roll through
some stuff. There's going to be some bumps along the way.
This isn't a bump. This is out and out harassment.
And your daughter isn't gay, and she isn't transgender, and
she's being labeled by somebody to be a uh mean
this is mean girls. Yes, yeah, it's mean girls. So
what's the what's the end game here?
Speaker 3: What what are you hoping to get? I know what
you're hoping to get. You're hoping to get to make all.
Speaker 1: This shit go away and let your daughter live a
normal life and go to school and you know, come
home and say hey, I got a you know, a
ninety five on my essay today and something else and
not have to also here and oh, by the way
I got surrounded by six boys and slammed into a locker.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Yeah, we we would love for to have our lives
back to normal. This has been constant with the phone
harassing and then the constant meetings at school and following
up and Leah just all her, you know, stressing about things.
It's it's been really hard and we're trying to set
up you lawyers and figure out how to where to
go from here. But until that DAS report is finalized,
really we're kind of just at a standstill.
Speaker 3: What about her? Do you have her in counseling at all?
Speaker 13: She's been in counseling, yes, for a while because of
her anxiety and depression, so you know that's that's already
been and that and again I think part of that
too is why she gets targeted because she's she's sensitive
and she's an easy target.
Speaker 1: But those were never the fun kids to pick on.
I wanted the kid that was going to try to
give it back, give me a little something here. I
don't I don't want to want to pick on somebody
who's already got a tough time.
Speaker 2: Let them happen.
Speaker 3: I want to go pick on one of the other people.
Speaker 1: Because to me it was more Westing, not not.
Speaker 3: I don't now bullying, but that's that's terrible.
Speaker 1: Let me before we wrap it up. Let me see
Somebody says, Spens Report has a long history of hiding
things and protecting bullies. Ask her who the therapist is
at school.
Speaker 3: It's time wrong. I'm not going to ask that. We
don't know, we don't. We don't need to drive people.
Speaker 13: They've been wonderful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, therapists.
Speaker 13: Great, the teachers are great. There's just everybody is just
I feel like this is just taking too long, and
I just want her to feel safe.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I want I think the punishment should match
the crime.
Speaker 1: Well, that you got to call them back into the
middle of the night, all night long, or at least
their parents or somebody, right, maybe go can you guys
go ding down ditch and just leave it. And then
on the third one, take a dog's feces, put it
in a paper bag, lighting on fire, and then there
and then why and just see what happens. Somebody says,
I'm one hundred percent on the sick family side, but
I'm wondering if they've tried talking to the parents directly.
Speaker 9: I had one parent did reach out to me. We
talked quite a bit.
Speaker 1: The parent came to you. Yes, okay, that's a little bit.
That seems a little encouraging to me. That it wasn't right.
Speaker 13: Yes it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I that that's how I would take it.
But okay, mm hmmm.
Speaker 9: And it got to the point where you know, they said,
all right, I want my son to apologize, you know,
in person, to your daughter. And I said, that's fine,
but the only way that I'm going to allow that
to happen is if your son wants to apologize. That
wasn't the case. That kid did not want to apologize,
of course not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he didn't want he didn't want to be
that's it. He can't do that.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Somebody says the parents have not reached out to them,
only one did, but the kid did not want to apologize.
This is exactly what I'm sorry, I'm repeating it there.
You have a know at six you have to have
certain grades to play sports and aren't allowed to play
until the grades are up. They should be incident free
from bullying until they can return to sports, said somebody.
Speaker 13: So this is another thing that's put that bothering me.
Because you know, Leah is an athlete. She plays a
couple of sports at school, and yeah, you have to
have you can't be failing classes, are doing bad in
school to play sports, right, So why is it you
can do this and still play sports.
Speaker 3: Right, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's how they could warm up for the wrestling team.
We got some motas today. Find that weak girl in
school and slammer around.
Speaker 3: I mean it's like it's insanity, right, and it's unfortunate.
But boy, so.
Speaker 6: Fire in school and the coaches found out about that stuff. Yeah,
they wouldn't kick me off the team. They would punish
the heck out of me. Yeah, and then they kicked
me off.
Speaker 3: The so they would give you a wedgie or something.
Speaker 1: The coaches would like be furious.
Speaker 9: You know they've got that code of conduct. Then, yes,
I've read it and I'm sorry that those kids acted
the way that they did. There should be no sports,
so right.
Speaker 3: Can this Can you go to the Board of Education?
Speaker 9: That's going to be our next stuff?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the Board of Education and some people in
the administrations and things don't like the Board of Education
because it's people who are I don't know why it
would even volunteer to be honest, to be.
Speaker 3: Honest with you.
Speaker 1: But uh, but there are people who are very invested
or interested in this and sometimes they really come down
hard on some things. And maybe that's what you need
to say. Hey, I would say, when you have a
threat in the school against your own community, you got
to end that. We can't have that. We can't have that.
We can't have people feeling unsafe. Everybody needs to feel welcome.
I don't give a shit. You know, take your you
want to take your stuff outside, that's fine. You want
to call the six until six thirty in the morning,
just harassing their phone, they can turn that off.
Speaker 3: I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, But I'm just saying, like this, this stuff
is terrible because all you want is just to end, right, Yeah,
And I you know, I feel bad saying have you
considered a different school for your kid? But like, maybe
those guys need I know a lot of these schools
have alternative learning centers, you know, Yeah, and so why
not send them there or something. But it's interesting. I'll
be interested to kind of see how this plays out.
When are they saying to you anything will be done well?
And I'm not saying this to even sound funny because
where we are, it's December fifth, when we're recording this,
twenty twenty five is coming up. The kids, I'm sure everywhere,
have two weeks off, so there's only two and a
half full weeks of school left, and it doesn't sound
like that report's coming anytime in those next two and
a half weeks.
Speaker 9: We've heard end of this week, we've heard next week,
but nobody really knows, you.
Speaker 1: Know, what's always coming, but never hear tomorrow. Yeah, tomorrow, right,
you know what I'm saying. I mean, that's what it is.
You know, it's like free beer tomorrow. Goddamn it said
free beer, you know, And that's sort of what it is,
and it's it's very frustrating. I'm sorry you're dealing with
all that can your older daughter in any way through
networking and friends and maybe has friends that are seniors
that are on the wrestling team to try to quell
a little of this or or or put the fear
of God in these guys going this is a house
spencer Port wrestlers represent themselves. I'm going to take you
by your single it and put your nuts in your throat.
Speaker 13: I'm sorry, I mean I don't want them. I mean
we have friends that have you know, boys on the
wrestling team, and they're all good kids. Like it's just
this modified group.
Speaker 3: Oh, the modified kids.
Speaker 13: Modified.
Speaker 1: Well, they should wrestle the varsity and then they'll be right.
Their bodies will be modified by the time it's over.
Speaker 13: But honestly, I don't think I think they would laugh
and say what. I don't think anything is scaring them
right now. Anything they just keep doing. I got messages
from several people last night in this morning that now
they're calling them all hours of the night saying awful,
vile things and threatening their children with sexual, disgusting things.
And now I feel bad because it's moved on to
somebody else.
Speaker 3: No, you should you should go to see what I
had to deal with. Good night.
Speaker 13: Well yeah, so other people are finding it out, which
is not good. But I just something has to change,
like we got to stop these these boys, and a
lot of.
Speaker 9: It is the juvenile laws.
Speaker 1: I'm fortunately somebody is saying, dumb thirteen year old boys
did something stupid. Maybe it wasn't as bad as they're
saying it is. If they're not giving more consequences, not
the same boys maybe not as bad in the school,
but the harassment outside of school is this shit that
that's my point of the bullying going too far now
out right to and and to find you got to
do work. I want to see these kids' grades. If
you're smart enough to go dig up mister six's phone number,
you're smart enough to get an A and algebra get
dumb ass. But uh, schools, yeah.
Speaker 13: I mean we have an open line of communication with
the grease Fleee and the ogon Foleee, so they are
still working on everything, all these investigating, you know, so
there's things worth coming with that, with the harassment and
the threats.
Speaker 1: Somebody, somebody does say schools in the state are all
about mental health, but they are aren't doing shit to
help this poor girl and others that have gone through
similar bullying. It's the it's the harassment beyond right, and
somebody goes again. Not the same boys, not the same boys.
I don't know, but it doesn't matter. It's the balls
iness to you know, it's like the keyboard warriors of things. Uh,
I don't, I don't know. I think sometimes if you
it's hard to see your kids suffer and not be
able to help in some way that's very hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Yeah, this is a marine he wants.
Speaker 3: To you know.
Speaker 2: Oh, I can imagine.
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's not easy. It's not been easy.
Speaker 3: Five motherfucker five.
Speaker 2: Don't you don't f for the marine man?
Speaker 3: No, I've been I mean that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Marines are at the top of the world's
food chain.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, people not to mess with. Does your
older daughter have a boyfriend currently?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 1: No, currently no that but she did it. But my
question was just the way, what was the initiation process
when she came to when the guy showed up to
take her.
Speaker 3: Out on the date or something. If you could do
one hundred and ten push ups in the next ninety seconds,
what's that.
Speaker 9: I might puff up my chest a little bit. I
don't go a little bit deeper.
Speaker 1: I don't blame you at all. I mean, look either way.
I mean I think the term now is girl dad,
Right we say girl dad.
Speaker 3: I would say just a parent in general. It's tough.
Speaker 1: And I didn't have girls I had. I had three sons,
and uh, you know, but you don't want to see
any of them go through that kind of stuff. And
I had one that really went through a lot of
hell when I think about it, really went through hell
with stuff. But you know now as as a big
muscle guy, and maybe they created that's.
Speaker 3: The reason why. I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's just but I wish you the best with this
and I hope that, uh, something stops, and I hope
we give you let you say everything you wanted to say.
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's more.
Speaker 9: Basically, I just you know, like you said, I want
this to stop. I want I want the community to
come together and put some pressure on these kids.
Speaker 13: Take their phones away.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, right, like, don't let.
Speaker 13: Them have them at night so they can keep people
awake out and I'm threaten them.
Speaker 9: I don't know, yeah.
Speaker 6: That Yeah, they don't have good parents, but their parents
have given them a phone well or they have the
phone something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but dude, it's sometimes you're so tired and you
just go, uh, they're in their room, they're quiet. You're
downstairs watching the game or the Hallmark Christmas movie. You
got Christmas music playing and you're drinking egg nog. You
think everybody's happy upstairs. You know terrorist number one is
harassing the six and the Smiths and the you know
somebody else down the road. Wow, Well, who knew in
spencerport uncovering this. Uh, there's some news. Has has it
gotten to the news at all?
Speaker 2: I apologize story?
Speaker 3: Oh they did?
Speaker 9: Yeah, thirteen thirteen.
Speaker 13: I kept putting off the interviews. Why our attorney said
not to. But at this point they keep calling me.
So I gave them a little tidbit of information. But
I again, I don't want to bring negative attention.
Speaker 3: You just want the ship to stop. I just yeah, life,
cut it out.
Speaker 13: We haven't been able to work like normal people. We
haven't slept. It's just it's it's not been easy at all.
Speaker 1: Last one, last thing here, because I do find this
a little interesting. The boy that was being forced to apologize,
I'll say that right. His parents found out and his
old man probably said, you're gonna get your ass over
there and apologize. Uh, And you said, I don't want
an apology unless it's a sincere apology. At the same time,
could you ask to have a meeting with that kid
and his and his father and just go why is
this happening? Try to get some understood. Like you know,
I always think what's the root of this and how
do we make it go away? And then you know,
I'm going to sound like a total douche here, But
but NEATSI the philosopher always said, if you could put
a face to the.
Speaker 3: Pain, would you still do it? Right? So I can
harass you? Call you and it's fun. Hey, you know
what I did to Leah's parents that night that you
know what I said to her mom, all these disgusting things,
and I can go in and brag about it.
Speaker 1: But if I had to sit across the table from
Leah's mom and I had to look Kim in the
face after saying all those things and maintain eye contact,
somebody goes, you got to keep looking Earnder the eye.
You got to would this shit stop? And I don't
know if that's a way for you to try, in
some way to go, you know, puff up that chest,
put on you know your your I don't know what
they call it, the Marines, your uniform blues.
Speaker 3: Your dress blues.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I couldn't come up with it.
Speaker 1: I was never in the military, shockingly, but you put
on your dress blues and made me show up with
those shine shoes, and you know I'd be I'd be
shitting a purple brick if I were a kid. But
something that could just find a I don't know, almost
get like the mole inside the gang here and find
out what's going on and why is this happening and
how do we make it stop, because it's not fair
to anybody.
Speaker 13: She she did want to meet with the one boy
she did, and you know, the dad really wanted to
make it happen, and unfortunately it didn't, you know, which
is sad. But at this point, we can't. We can't
force it, like if he doesn't want to face her
or face me or anybody else.
Speaker 9: I've even offered for all of the parents to come
to the school. We all sit down in a room
and watch that video together, because only one parent saw
that video out of the sex okay that I'm aware of. Yeah,
and I would love for the for every parent to
be in there so I can look them right in
the face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I mean,
even for the parent. I mean that you put a
face to the pain. It's it's a little bit more.
Everybody can be a keyboard warrior or whatever they're doing.
But you know, I don't know, sick strong. Somebody says,
we're with you, turn off your phones and whatever. We
could go on on a lot of the comments will
be similar, but I do think if that may be
the solution or I I mean, I would as a
last resort try to invite the parents over have a
big brunch in my house and have you know what
I'm saying something go hey, at this level, can we
figure out why this is happening and how can we
make it stop? Because it's not it's affecting the mental
health and stability of the entire family, of my family
and other Yeah, and that that that's not right. And
that's the part that I think people need to realize.
Maybe it's not the same boys, it doesn't matter. It's
a it's a problem. It's affecting people in the community,
and it's uh, it shouldn't be tolerated, you know.
Speaker 3: Right. We have the right to life, liberty and the
pursue happiness. And you little pricks, you're gonna end up
in the bottom of the canal and keep it up.
Speaker 6: Well, somebody, maybe the guy who was stealing that thing
we talked about earlier, maybe he was going to take
them out.
Speaker 2: Maybe that was the case.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: Joking joking.
Speaker 1: I hope in some way this helps I really do.
I hope it helps.
Speaker 9: I hope.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I make no promises, that's all I'm telling you.
I don't wonder. I don't need a marine knocking on
my door.
Speaker 13: No, no, you don't want that.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Well, good luck with everything, and I hope that you know,
maybe after the Christmas break you get into a new year,
things change and you get that report and everything's move
forward for you.
Speaker 13: And thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish you all the best. Thank you.
Speaker 13: So we're going to continue fighting, okay.
Speaker 3: We'll continue on. And uh, I'm praying for you. Yeah,
I well, thank you. Yeah, Danny's a prayer and I'll
just send.
Speaker 1: Good vibes okay if you'll accept them in charge freach.
There you go, Thank you, guys, and thank you for
having a sense of humor about things too that I
think that's very important to keep. And not that we're
all laughing about it, but you understand, like you see
you seem like you're not out for vengeance. You just
wanted to stop right. Yeah, yeah, good luck with it all.
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 3: There we go. Well that, I mean, I'm just shocked
by some of that stuff.
Speaker 2: I just keep it.
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine my old man found out I
was doing that stuff. I mean, the saying was, I'll
stick my foot so far up your ass you'll be
burp and shoe polished.
Speaker 3: For a week followed.
Speaker 2: My father wouldn't tolerate that. There was this one girl
and fourth.
Speaker 3: On a size twelve, right up your ass, cut it out.
Speaker 6: There was this one girl in fourth grade and everybody
picked on her except for me, all the boys. Yeah,
and she made comment that I didn't pick on her
specifically my cousin was in the closes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because fire of a kick his ass. But I
still wouldn't pick on her.
Speaker 3: Even that wasn't being yeah, that's not that's not right.
Speaker 6: I mean it's like, come on, guys, like, where do
you like where's the I just don't That's why I'm
I was quiet most of the time.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say.
Speaker 3: Oh, there's nothing really you can say, Mike. I don't know,
it's awful. I'm just trying to think, like, as a solution,
what do you do as a parent of this?
Speaker 1: And I know that people are going to go, well,
you didn't ask the tough question. I don't know what
the tough question. What are the tough questions. We found
out that a girl started a rumor that this girl
was gay. She's not transgender as some other people's posts
were alluding to. And that's that right now.
Speaker 3: Well, Danny, Yeah, go Buffalo, Go Bills, Go Buffalo. What
is Spencer Port?
Speaker 1: What's their do we know their mascot or whatever? The
rangers angers, I don't know. Get the rangers out there
to round up those fellows and see what's happening.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: For Dan Burillo. For Kevin Muir, who Danny, by the way,
kicked my ass. I was so proud of you. You
had the theme and everything.
Speaker 2: The songs.
Speaker 3: I don't know why. I think when I.
Speaker 1: Heard the inhaler, I thought, oh this has gotta I
did have a two songs in right, Wilson Phillips and
all my song Yeah for Danny crushed me and theme
that too, Kevin for putting it all together.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have a.
Speaker 1: Bonus show tomorrow that will drop audio on for Monday,
but you can watch us online tomorrow as.
Speaker 3: We celebrate our two year anniversary. And thank you to
the six. I hope they do well and think figure
things out. Mister Fico, I'm glad you got your tractor back.
I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Flo Murder