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Speaker 1: Iron Smoke Distillery in Fairport, New York. So many cool things, Danny,

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I love going over there because I'd love to have

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a peacemaker settle in. Right, that's stage. That's the stage

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that whiskey built my friends. Yeah, and it's award winning

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whiskey and bourbon. You grab a couple of bottles in

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case anybody that stops by your house. But here's what's

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coming up, and you can see this for yourself if

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you go to Ironsmokedistillery dot com. Click on the calendar.

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You've got the Acoustic Sunset Sessions with Chris and Cory. Okay,

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that'll be tonight from five to eight. Then Rochester favorite

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Junkyard Field trip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they always do well there. Get there early.

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Speaker 1: Eight thirty to eleven thirty. Then from noon until six pm.

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On Saturday the seventh, it's Santa Con at the Cannery.

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Speaker 1: I love santeg And, so it would be a bunch

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of people dressed up as Santa will be drunk and

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all of them. Oh yeah, we'll be sitting on each

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other's laps. But then from two to six thirty on

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the same day, so kind of overlapping with Santacon will

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be the Warming Drive in memory of Lee Lucas. And

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they're asking that you bring in some clothing for the

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Warming Drive. Socks, hand warmers, handwarmer packets, gently used gloves, hats.

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like you bought it in the summer and you figured

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it out, I'll save money. They are on sale and

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get this and you go to put them on to

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now and then the kid's grown three inches.

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna fit. Yeah, bring it to the can.

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Speaker 1: And then on Saturday night from eight to eleven, it's

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the Dance of the sugar Bums.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, the sugar.

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Speaker 1: Bum the holiday cheers. Here, grab a beer, get near

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for the Dance of the sugar Bums at the Rattlesnake Burlesque.

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Speaker 2: So who needs the rock cats when you got the

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sugar bumms?

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Speaker 1: Come on, look at all that stuff. Santacon right, the

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burlesque show, the Warming Drive.

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Speaker 3: I love that place. Iron Smoked di Scullery in Fairport,

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New York.

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Speaker 4: Baby, when your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice,

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mix in.

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Speaker 2: Some vodka.

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Speaker 3: In color. A podcast from the Mac of All Trade

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Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots Jeep Ram.

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Speaker 2: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot, Thanks

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for telling a friend. That's how we spread the word

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about the pirate ship.

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Speaker 1: Today, December fifth, twenty twenty four is the actual second

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anniversary of Billified, the Bill Moran podcast that we did

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basically at my dining room table.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and Danny's here and Kevin's here, sneak it out

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a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Eat can out some time for us tonight because he's

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doing hockey and it's in Fairport, so that makes it

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Speaker 3: But thank you guys, and.

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Speaker 1: We'll have hopefully if we were planning to do something

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a special show tomorrow, we'll drop it on something.

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Speaker 3: I may bring some wine and stuff.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna bring champagne.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great idea. Why didn't I think that?

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Speaker 1: So, dude, I gotta tell you, man, I am like,

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I'm all over the place. Jamison did not make the team. Man,

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but they said to him, and they told him why

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they go you're They go, your shooting's great, white and short. No,

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not his problem. Well yeah, sure not, so he said,

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but your ball handling. You're handling isn't good, isn't where

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we need it to be. So they said, listen.

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Speaker 5: Uh, he goes, here's these camps for eight hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: No to Basically, they go, we'll put you on what

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and you can be the team manager. You come practice

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an emotional moment because he just didn't want to.

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Speaker 5: So your son could be the Jmack of Fairport.

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like this could be a great opportunity for you. So

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all right. I said, you do this and you practice

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with the team I said, then we'll do some skills

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camps in the spring, and we'll get you on AAU

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what Tyler. When he was in eighth grade,

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he wasn't able to try out because the doctor wouldn't

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clear him because he wasn't he didn't meet the standards

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that they had. But he was the manager of the team.

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he know, he knew the coaches, knew what the coaches wanted,

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he knew the schemes the coaches wanted. So put him

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ahead of the of the game for freshman year when

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he was able to try out and make the team.

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he's on the day.

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Speaker 5: He'll be on the court every day practicing.

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Speaker 1: And that's sort of what I'm looking for. What my

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team or not. I want him involved in an activity

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with different kids. I'll just leave it there. I will

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tell you guys the story off air, but it's very

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important to me, it really is. And so that's why

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anywhere in life at any age. He said, Oh, the

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kids on the team kind of like me. He goes,

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Speaker 1: They were all really nice to me, and that was

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his biggest fear them not accepting him came around.

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Speaker 5: He got a big follow Shut here, tell me a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, Like, it was

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all about being accepted, which is such a thing at

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to go to a new new job. You're nervous.

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Speaker 3: Why you want to be liked.

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Speaker 1: You want people to like you being exactly So that

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that and you think that, but man, his whole attitude

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has been completely different about it.

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Speaker 5: And jocely the Irish had never really been good at basketball.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and then I don't even even have it.

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Ireland play in the Olympics or were they the United Kingdom.

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Speaker 5: Jerry mcnamud, Yeah, that's right, Yeah he was.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, just a minute.

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Speaker 2: It maybe make it more, but I don't know if

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Speaker 3: Anything nobly probably not. But we'll see.

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Speaker 6: Everybodyhive's whole speech. During the Big East Tournament, they let

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off Sports Center because with that cherry back in the bear,

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this team wouldn't want ten games this year because.

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Speaker 2: He was coming under fire.

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Speaker 6: He was because like Billy Eatlan got hurt. So now

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he's got to be the point guard and the three.

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Speaker 2: Point ace so they.

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Speaker 6: Win their first or second game in the Big East Tournament.

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That's how long ago this was. If Bayhive goes off

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sports today, we got our top story behind f Bob's.

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Speaker 5: To the media, there is a did he never make

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the NBA?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Never?

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Speaker 5: It was first overall in the two thousand and six

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US Basketball League Draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, USBL is all right, look at you, Danny.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 5: Which might be what the Razor Sharks league.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's actually above the Razor Sharks.

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Speaker 6: So Doug Gottli was also a former number one all

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Speaker 3: Really yes, I did not know that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, no, but he's not neither of them neither.

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Speaker 6: He's coaching Wisconsin Green Bay and doing his talk show.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. I want to just real quick because Kevin is

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going to have to depart. We're going to do a

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Speaker 3: I just love it. I love the game. Kevin came

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I did get a text from somebody today telling me

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how much they love it and they love theme that tune.

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Speaker 3: Ah, they did. They said, thanks March. It was Kyle, No,

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it was Kyle and dude, I will write it and.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on two years. It's only gotten better. I will

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miss Mark if he's done. Loved his music knowledge and stories.

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I have listened to every episode and look forward.

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Speaker 3: To many more. Keep up the good work and uh Mark?

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Speaker 1: I got a text from other people today to regarding Mark,

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Speaker 5: Going to Keith Urban solo tomorrow. I saw that on

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he's playing Turning Stone.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he's going to Keith Urban by himself.

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Speaker 5: Well it's it's it's a solo road trip.

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Speaker 2: If he gets close enough, you might get one of

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those customs Keith Urban. Ye call him if he needs

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Speaker 1: No, No, I got other things going on. I have

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things I have to do. What are you kidding me?

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Speaker 5: And I don't guess could make up for two and

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Speaker 1: And another guy wrote me Ken Dice, Ken has been

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a long time listener and he said, he said, twenty

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twenty four has been a challenging year and your show

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has given me hours of enjoyment.

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Speaker 3: Well good, How nice? Is that?

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Speaker 1: Just a couple of the messages coming in? People love

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Speaker 5: Oh I know, but people, I've been on Facebook, people

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Speaker 3: No, you can't let it go. Keny, keny.

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Speaker 1: Do we have to play your stir of the ship

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so I don't. I don't have your stir the ship

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sung up?

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Speaker 5: I thought, I die so Dan it's great?

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Speaker 2: Did they?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah he did. It's not Danny in the Healthy Fats.

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meat sauce, the plates something like that that wrote this

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song is he's a ship stir? We'll play, but we're

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to the person who owns Sean Fico, who owned that

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piece of equipment that was stolen from Henrietta. And there

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on the news. And then there's uh some parents reached

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spencer Port. But I figured it's one that may be

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able to play anywhere, you know what I'm saying, like

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maybe anywhere.

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Speaker 5: They pushed down the bleachers no football game. Is this

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what happened?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I have no idea? What? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh that girl girl? Yeah, I still think that there's

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I smell fish Well, it's up a lot right her

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gofund me is.

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Speaker 3: Up a lot.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they created a go fund me.

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Speaker 3: There was a gofund me. Every time somebody gets hang

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on hanging out. There was a go frying already because

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she had cancer. Okay, right, all right, But this story.

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Speaker 1: I've been saying all along, I go, it's a little

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weird to me because, like I, I got the impression

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that maybe the parents were frustrated. He's a forty nine

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er fan. We leave the game, but some drunk bills

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fans pushed through. So we played audio of him from

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Channel four and Buffalo, even though he's a Rochester guy,

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and he says in the audio, these guys are saying,

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we're gonna just push through these forty nine ers fans,

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and he goes. He bumped me, He bumped my son,

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and he goes. And then my daughter, who weighs nothing,

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got kind of pushed over and landed in the snow.

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She wasn't hurt, she was fine. There's no report file,

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there's no complaint file, there's no you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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and the headlines all made it sound like they took

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her up and go cancer, fuck you and punched her

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onto the field, was how I thought, because it was

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even the I saw the story on the New York Post.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Buffalo, Yeah, I got set. Peter sent me the

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story from the New York Post.

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Speaker 5: Right what they have reporters the girl got up after

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getting shoved and shanked the guy.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going, this is like not I something doesn't

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add up here that they just left because I thought

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this story got exaggerated in the media. That was it

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what I thought happened and I and now people are

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starting to say they think it was calculated.

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Speaker 3: I still don't, but I think.

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Speaker 1: Somebody was frustrated and goes, yeah, we went to a

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Bills game and our daughter with cancer even got shoved

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into a snowbank. Because they're so callous, right, But I'm

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thinking this wasn't There's nobody I go if this really happened.

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If my daughter I have none, had beat cancer twice

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and somebody shoves her into a snowbank because she's a

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forty nine Ers fan, what do you think is gonna happen.

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I'm punching that guy right in the face. Oh yeah,

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something's happening, or he's being read my lawyer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, get Greg on the phone.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? Like that that's sort

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of the thing, and none of that happened. That's why

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I was like, it's a little weird.

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Speaker 5: I think I still want to know what the extent

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of the shovel was.

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Speaker 2: It just a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think it was a bump bump, she went nowhere

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to stand. It was nowhere to stand.

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Speaker 2: Everything's on video somewhere, it's got where.

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Speaker 3: But this is the other thing. Do you think that

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if some Bills fan that other Bills fans wouldn't go, hey, asshole,

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you just shoved the little girl. Fuck you?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, I just I thought

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it was almost unfortunate that it was being painted as

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Buffalo fans suck it is, or even.

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Speaker 2: A douchebag friend of the guy who's drunk with her.

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You shove that girl.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, Nobody did that, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Nobody did that so or that we know of. And

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I think this father or somebody took to social media

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kind of complaining right probably in the moment, frustrated.

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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, it's it's Jimmy.

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Speaker 1: Somebody somebody saw it, and there it goes. I just

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want to say, but and then it takes off from

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there right, Antonio Brown sees it. I go to a

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land anton Brown hooks started your wagon. Jesus, all right,

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Kevin's gotta go. So we gotta do a theme that tune.

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Speaker 3: All right, I am excited for theme that tune. I

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haven't done it in a while. Here we go. Kevin's

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got it.

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Speaker 7: She's playing flushing bom So said.

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Speaker 3: I come.

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Speaker 2: She's smells, sight, taste and sound.

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Speaker 8: But somehow I can't feeling that anything should happen.

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Speaker 3: God, I know these fun I can sing the words,

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these don't sing, Laura, Why do you like to step up?

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Speaker 9: NaN's change?

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Speaker 3: Okay, no one can change your life.

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Speaker 10: Success for you, don't never anyone savens.

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Speaker 3: Rain shattering out.

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Speaker 2: I want to do so.

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Speaker 3: So you found a place that's beard of for you

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and this rock. I'm so nice.

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Speaker 8: Week we chained our hearts in vain.

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Speaker 11: We jumped, never asking why you would start fell.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what, I don't know. I'm blowing this game.

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Speaker 12: Don't you ever say I just walked away.

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Speaker 13: We always want you.

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Speaker 8: I can lively running for my life.

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Speaker 3: I got it. I think I got it. I think

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I got it.

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Speaker 2: Oh ship, I'll be shocked either one of you get

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this one.

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Speaker 3: Danny is gonna pull this way up. It's gonna Danny

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feel to it.

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Speaker 12: I don't know, right around six or something.

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Speaker 3: Spear Food Industry with your food so to your.

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Speaker 13: Bill a beaufo.

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Speaker 3: A lot of question.

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Speaker 9: Changing to try and please me.

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Speaker 8: You never learn don't before oh no, and don't imagine.

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Speaker 12: You two for me.

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Speaker 2: I used to love this song. I forgot about this song.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know this game has brought back a few

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different songs I've forgotten about.

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Speaker 2: I think I got the theme. I think I got

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a few of the names.

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Speaker 14: Ever since you've been lieving me.

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Speaker 3: From that name. I don't know how it.

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Speaker 15: Feels when behind the music came out.

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Speaker 2: Still working over there, tensils down.

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Speaker 3: I need an extra time, mister Connery.

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Speaker 2: You should not be writing this much.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna have to get him an I d P

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for this game.

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Speaker 11: Right there we go, I got it back to the top.

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Speaker 3: I know this song She's so High.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the art.

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Speaker 3: She's so High is the title She's so High?

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Speaker 2: I actually love this entire album.

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Speaker 11: Tal Bachman, Oh fuck tal Bachman.

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Speaker 2: Wilson Phillips, hold on.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna Bill have a chance because Wilson doesn't phillips.

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Speaker 3: I didn't get hold on, so I get.

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Speaker 6: A point there and they had a meteoric rise and

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then poof.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just like her one record. It's like the button

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on her pants. You gotta have this one, of course

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I do.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: It's the Wallflowers.

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Speaker 1: The song one had one sixteven Heart, their first single.

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I loved, I actually loved this man, Jacob Dillan, I'm

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fucking flaming.

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Speaker 2: This is Mammoth Wolfgang van Halen.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: It's a song called find a Place. The song is

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called distance.

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Speaker 3: I got nothing there is that him singing?

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, okay, gotter than his father wrecking Ball Miley sidus.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I got two of that one.

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Speaker 2: They really had to work on her voice on this

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one too, which is weird.

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Speaker 3: I like her Voiceman's more grappling.

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Speaker 2: This one. I want to say Barefoot in the Street.

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Speaker 3: It's not is a Radiohead, It's not.

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Speaker 2: It's called Your House by Inhaler. Yeah, I don't know

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in Haler.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I know who, Okay, I know who's I don't

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want to give away the theme, but I have a

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pretty good idea.

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Speaker 3: Once I tell you who it is.

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Speaker 2: You'll you'll, you'll hear it. Yeah, don't go changing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, just the way you are, just the

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way you are, Alexa Joel, I said, lady g it's

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Alexa Rajel.

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Speaker 3: It is really wow. I've heard this a lot.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know this is Julian Lennon.

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Speaker 3: I wrote down George Harrison's Julian Lennon.

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Speaker 2: It's much too late for.

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Speaker 3: I have, much too late for goodbyes.

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Speaker 2: Or just too late for they who will give it to.

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Speaker 3: And the theme for Biden That's what I had. I'm

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not kidding. I'm not kidding. No, my.

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Speaker 2: Second generation artists, just.

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Speaker 3: The way you are, children of this That makes a

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lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: But I just in Hayler's Bottles Kid.

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Speaker 5: It is Bonal's kid.

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Speaker 3: You can hear it. Yeah, it sounds all I do

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know that fan. I played them before Jesus.

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Speaker 2: Their first hit sounded like old school YouTube with.

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Speaker 3: The d they did, but they changed it a little bit. Yeah,

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but I thought went it was in hanler One Headlight

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wrecking Ball, Just the way you are? I go, is

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this he doing a hundred by joke? I couldn't tell.

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Speaker 11: All right, very good, it's six look at this sixth Avenue. Crackhead,

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good stuff, good stop. I like this this is I

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like it too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the whole.

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Speaker 1: But he's not the singer though, is he thought he

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was a percussionist.

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Speaker 3: I made me. I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, I think he is the singer because

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there's another song.

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Speaker 5: He sounds just sounds just like bon He sounds like

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Paul hewitts Houston.

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Speaker 3: Paul Hewett was the any guy Na, there's a huet.

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I knew with Gary Hewett, so I always fucked that up.

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We know.

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Speaker 6: Paul Heugh was the basketball coach at Georgia Tech who

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went to Saint Chad Fisher.

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Speaker 5: I was trying to find a song from Larry's kid,

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but I don't think Larry has a kid.

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Speaker 3: That plays violins. It was so funny.

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Speaker 2: So it's the first guy Bachman Turner overdrives kid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tal Bachmann and I really like a lot of

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Talbo album and I never ever knew.

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Speaker 3: Who was singing. I gotta twenty twenty five gonna come back.

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Let's come. They're gonna try to start winning these games. Start.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna start writing it for me. Well, it's funny,

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come up, with a theme for it.

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Speaker 6: So it's funny how like all these artists who like

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had to scratch and claw and make their way to

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the top of like okay, kid, here you go. And

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it's the kind of flake I mean. Well, it's not

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like they didn't work hard to write their own songs,

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but they kind of helped set them the table. I mean,

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even like Eddie Vedder's daughter, mister I'm going, I'm I'm

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mister alternative and I hate nepotism.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you want to sing with me on a record?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But I mean again, of all again, of the

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bands in the eighth there, I mean, I would say

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two and a half have had like longevity, right, The

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Wallflowers have been around for a while, but Miley's good.

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Speaker 6: But the wall Farmers starting one good record, Wilson Phillips

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had one good record, Mammoth the jury still out. Miley

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Cyrus has had stag power, but she also was Hannah Montana.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Wallflowers are still putting music out, they are

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and still touring.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Wallflowers, I didn't think Bob did a

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lot for them at all.

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Speaker 1: No, he didn't, I don't think, you know, but I

472
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think that name you know what happens, you get it,

473
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you get through a door. Can you stay in the room, Yeah,

474
00:24:35,839 --> 00:24:37,759
that's on you. But you can get through the door.

475
00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:39,640
And that's maybe it's unfortunate.

476
00:24:39,759 --> 00:24:42,319
Speaker 5: But I met them at some record star right after

477
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the album came out. They were signing autographs and stuff,

478
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and they were they were cool.

479
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, I'm not doubted that none of these

480
00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:48,759
people are.

481
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, and Miley Cyrus too is like way

482
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,039
more talented than their dad.

483
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he had two hits.

484
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,519
Speaker 5: He had better hair though.

485
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Speaker 3: All Right, we're Kevin's gotta go.

486
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Speaker 1: Thank you for Covenant, Thank you for doing that great theme,

487
00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:03,319
really really great theme. Uh well, we'll take a moment.

488
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When we come back. We're gonna talk to Sean Fico,

489
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who is the owner of the snowball removal Henrietta stolen

490
00:25:09,559 --> 00:25:11,759
from Henrietta Dan and wait till you.

491
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Speaker 6: Know how to operate one of them things on the

492
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east side, No, south side.

493
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't really consider Henriette the east side.

494
00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Henry is like the bottom of Rochester.

495
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Speaker 1: It's like, I know, I know, but is it it's

496
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,599
almost childa Yeah, it's so saying it's like a little

497
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piece of chilie that broke, Yeah, a little piece of

498
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grease that all right, We'll take a moment and we'll

499
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be right back with Sean right after this.

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Speaker 6: You never really know, but you know, like family guy

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541
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appropriate for a wedding, and they play you before.

542
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very funny. I just had to play that.

543
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Speaker 1: So I don't know how familiar you are with this story,

544
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,599
but I will play a little bit of Channel thirteen,

545
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the local ABC affiliate reporting on the missing tractor.

546
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Speaker 16: Here we Go new at five thirty A bold crime

547
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and a Henryetta shopping plaza.

548
00:28:19,599 --> 00:28:22,599
Speaker 3: A thirty thousand heell machine used to remove snow.

549
00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 9: Vanish the owner for someone to come.

550
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,279
Speaker 3: Forward, disappeared today rapture.

551
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Speaker 5: Karen Lewell, the owner, tells me he was shocked when

552
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he learned that such a big machine was stolen.

553
00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:37,839
Speaker 3: Definitely did not expect anything like this.

554
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: The day before it was going to snow. It was

555
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the president of AP Property Services in Ontario.

556
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 3: So anyway, shawfee Go is the owner of AP Property Service.

557
00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: So what happened was the machine what to talk to

558
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Miss Cleo and.

559
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Speaker 6: It's going to snow. You may want to cut yourself

560
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:56,240
loose snow. Or somebody went to Miss Cleo and said

561
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it's going to snow. Maybe it was a weather person.

562
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Speaker 2: And they tipped somebody off who knew how to drive

563
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this machine.

564
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:05,359
Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the thing. They don't say anything in

565
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,720
the story about how the machining got twenty They found

566
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:11,799
it great police work by our friends of the Monroe

567
00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:15,559
County Shiffs Department, all with Todd Baxter, yes, and Deputy

568
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:21,200
Hurley and I so I assumed that somebody pulled up

569
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,079
with a flatbed, somebody knew how to drive this, and

570
00:29:23,119 --> 00:29:26,759
you just loaded on. And I go, I said, this

571
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,960
is a crime that could is just done right under

572
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,319
your nose is how I thought it was done. Well,

573
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let Sean tell you how it actually happened. But I'm

574
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going if I'm security at that plaza, I just think

575
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the guys are picking up the equipment. I'm not even

576
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,200
going to question it. Yeah, they know what's going on.

577
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Speaker 2: You act like you know what you're doing. You could

578
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pretty much get away.

579
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Speaker 3: With almost I've always said that.

580
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Speaker 1: But on the other side, I said, how many times

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have we driven by a construction site or even just

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a small somebody level in land clearing land or whatever

583
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,000
for some kind of new building, new structure, and there's

584
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a back hone a bulldozer and they sit there for

585
00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:08,920
days and days with nobody, no activity, know anything, And

586
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I go I am surprised that those don't get stolen more. Well,

587
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for more on all of this, we bring in Sean Fico. Shawn,

588
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I appreciate you, and I'm sorry that we're running a

589
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:19,839
little behind here. I hope we're not keeping you too late.

590
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,400
Shawn's in some kind of an office and it looks like,

591
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are you the town supervisor?

592
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Speaker 3: Is that you're a Is that the ap office?

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Speaker 2: Volume?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's oh, I got it. I got Kevin play.

595
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You're snowing, so you're still at work. I got you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So this equipment, so you do a lot of

597
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big commercial parking lots and things.

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Speaker 3: We do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and do you have like contracts even with some

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apartment buildings or anything like that.

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Speaker 16: Well, most mostly shopping centers, shopping stuff like that, shopping

602
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,279
different businesses, hospitals and whatnot, Okay, throughout the city.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so then you're on. I mean, you got it.

604
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If it's hospitals, you got it.

605
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Speaker 2: There's no like, there's no calling in sick. It's go.

606
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,759
Speaker 4: That's right, gotta be there twenty four hours.

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Speaker 16: That's why we've got Cruis out right now, because there's

608
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still you know, the Bjay's walmarts they're all still open

609
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and so we're still working.

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Speaker 1: So what happened with this piece of equipment because it

611
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wasn't put on a trailer.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to laugh. I'm sorry to laugh.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 14: Night.

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Speaker 16: It's funny now that I've gotten it back. It's funny

616
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now because there are some sleepless nights. And I'll get

617
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into that a little bit further. But so, you know,

618
00:31:35,079 --> 00:31:37,599
there was some some bad weather coming, right, so we

619
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start putting equipment in place. We had most of it

620
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in place, but this is this particular piece we delivered

621
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to Frontier Commons at twelve twenty five Jefferson Road. Yeah,

622
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,359
on Saturday Saturday, around nine thirty ten o'clock in the morning.

623
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We knew some snow was coming Saturday night and I

624
00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:55,240
mean sorry, Sunday night, Monday, whatever.

625
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, being ahead of stuff, right, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, so we do it might my employee delivers machine.

627
00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:04,039
There is a load of salt we could. We have

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satellite salt bins so we can fill our salt trucks

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from different areas. They don't have to return to home

630
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,839
base to to get their salt. Their trucks filled up.

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Speaker 4: So the operator, the operator pushes up the salt parks.

632
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Speaker 16: The loader leaves next day, the foreman for that area

633
00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:22,119
wants to go check all the equipment, right because it's

634
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gonna snow.

635
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:23,799
Speaker 4: He wants to make sure everything's good.

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Speaker 16: So he called me and said, where's where's the salt

637
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,640
loader at Frontier Commons?

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00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: I said, right where we left it? What do you mean?

639
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He's like, it's not here.

640
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Speaker 1: Okay, let me just I just want to clarify something.

641
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So this this was basically what what do you call it?

642
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:41,319
A front loader?

643
00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a wheeloader, front wheel.

644
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:44,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

645
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: So it's not used really to remove snow but put

646
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:48,079
salt in the trucks.

647
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: No, it can do both. So it removes snow the bucket.

648
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 16: Uh well, it can load a salt truck and then

649
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,759
you attach a snow pusher on the front of it

650
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and it can plow the park lot.

651
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, okay, all right, so you got to

652
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:02,880
know how to do this stuff. How difficult is it

653
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,880
to drive one of these? Does it have a steering wheel?

654
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:08,920
It does, okay, because there's some that are more lever

655
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right up there.

656
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Speaker 6: Yes, you that have satellite radio, because a lot of

657
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those have satellite radio.

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Speaker 13: Right.

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Speaker 16: No, not this particular one two thousand, because that might

660
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be something to the older one of the older units

661
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we have.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because someone's going to steal something, they might as

663
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,079
well like turn on like serious and just you know, casual.

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Speaker 4: That's right exactly.

665
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Speaker 3: So what happened? Then the guy calls you what what?

666
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:31,000
What is your reaction?

667
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: Well, like I thought he was I thought he was kidding.

668
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm like, okay, you know, today's not the day

669
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:38,480
I'm getting ready for s So you know, of course

670
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:42,119
we take care of millions of square feet of asphalt

671
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,000
in this area, so of course I'm a little excited.

672
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:46,400
It's the first run, right, a little little little nervous,

673
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,400
like it've been over for thirty four years, but every

674
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,720
first trip there's you're always a little nervous. And then

675
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,440
he comes across with this. I'm like, it's it's really

676
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,440
not the day to mess with me. Can we just

677
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,880
just can you just do what you gotta do? And

678
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,440
he's like, no, Sean, I'm serious that it's not here.

679
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,119
I said, did you check inside.

680
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Speaker 4: The salt Man? Yeah?

681
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: I did, he goes.

682
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,279
Speaker 16: I said, okay, did you check around the plaza? Maybe

683
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:06,000
somebody took it for a joy ride. He says Sean,

684
00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:07,519
I've been all over this plaza.

685
00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 4: I can't find it.

686
00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, because there's nothing worse to telling the boss that

687
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something like that is missing.

688
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 3: I'm sure wants to make sure. You don't want to

689
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,199
hear this. Well, here's why you're not.

690
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: You're not, you're not. Here's why your voice doesn't crack

691
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,400
on that you didn't do it. Yeah, you know this

692
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,199
had nothing to do with you, Sean. Do the keys

693
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,400
stay with the vehicle?

694
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,519
Speaker 16: So they Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. The problem

695
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:38,400
is with construction equipment most keys. So if you have

696
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,440
a SOT.

697
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: Yes, you have a certain brand, the same for you.

698
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 6: Oh okay, so one John Deere is all John Deere

699
00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:48,599
most okay?

700
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 2: I see yeah, I mean for the for the type.

701
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 3: No, but you're right, that's a great example, great example

702
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,159
to use caterpillar or whatever.

703
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: Nothing runs like a deer.

704
00:34:55,519 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 3: No. So all right, so make a difference. What happen?

705
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:01,760
What do you do next?

706
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,159
Speaker 2: I know?

707
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 16: So I so instead of I didn't want to bother

708
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,800
the Sheriff's office or be I know it's not a

709
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,719
bother to them, But I said, you know what, before

710
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,559
we go out in this crazy you know, you know,

711
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:16,480
calling in the cavalry on trying to locate this machine.

712
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 4: Let's go see if we can find ourselves.

713
00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:20,559
Speaker 16: So we got a group of people together and we

714
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:23,199
searched every I'm laughing and it's not funny.

715
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 4: Wasn't funny at the time.

716
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 16: Every shopping center, every dead end street, any construction site,

717
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,760
it was within close radius. We weren't going to Penfield

718
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,239
and Fairport to look. We were staying, you know, in

719
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,159
Henrietta because we figured that you know, who's going to

720
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,079
drive a loader that far, like, you know, someone would

721
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:42,280
spot them, some would, you would bring attention to yourself.

722
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 4: It's thirty thousand pounds. So we're looking around, looking around.

723
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,119
Speaker 16: Once I realized that, because I was I was one

724
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:51,159
of the search party, I'm like, it's really not here.

725
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:55,239
So that's when I notified the Sheriff's office and they

726
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,360
came down and they were They didn't understand either.

727
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 4: At first.

728
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,119
Speaker 16: I was trying to explain to what it was, and

729
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,480
like a what got stolen? I said, yeah, a wheeloader.

730
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,599
I had to kind of explained what it was, and

731
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,400
so they were just as shocked as I was.

732
00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: All right, so this is the thing that's strange, right,

733
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,440
because they did great police work.

734
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 3: How did they track it down?

735
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 4: So they did do excellent excellent police Yeah he did.

736
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:24,880
I love those guys. But how it actually was found

737
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,400
was a good Samaritan Oh wow?

738
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,119
Speaker 3: Okay, so was there?

739
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,599
Speaker 1: Oh so that it did hit the news right and

740
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:35,119
then they did the update. When I saw the story,

741
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,360
it had already been found.

742
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,119
Speaker 2: So it was like a crime Stoppers type of thing.

743
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:42,039
Speaker 16: So I gotta tell you it's the power of social

744
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:43,920
media because this was shared.

745
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:46,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, the story was shared twenty four hundred times.

746
00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:49,559
Speaker 1: Okay, so it got out there fast, all right, So

747
00:36:49,639 --> 00:36:50,480
how so?

748
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: And it was twenty seven miles away.

749
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 16: Thirty seven thirty seven okay, seven thirty.

750
00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 3: Seven miles away? So how far? Where? Where was that?

751
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 4: Still?

752
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 16: It was located off of Logan Road in uh Mount Morris?

753
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 4: Uh uh you know that area.

754
00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:12,079
Speaker 2: Mount Morris that they were moving another Mount Morris they

755
00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:12,559
needed with.

756
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:18,159
Speaker 3: So sean, So somebody drove it.

757
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they drove it.

758
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:22,119
Speaker 16: I didn't believe it myself when I got the phone

759
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:24,960
call and they said they found it on a on

760
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:28,519
a closed seasonal road. I'm like, okay, well, it's got

761
00:37:28,519 --> 00:37:32,079
to be trailer marks, there's got to be something. No, no,

762
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:34,880
I was driven thirty seven miles without there has to

763
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,679
be one rough ride.

764
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 4: His back's hurting. I can tell you that.

765
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: Did he have the red trigle on the back of

766
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,079
it with the flashers going yeah?

767
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,559
Speaker 3: Yeah? But so where did they? Yeah? Did what did they?

768
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: They took back roads obviously, but when did they do this?

769
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,280
Because you could hold up a lot of traffic. I

770
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,880
grew up in a very retural part of New York State,

771
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,320
down in northern Dutchess County, and there was a hun

772
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:02,679
of a farm equipment.

773
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,519
Speaker 3: They would come out and even on those backcountry roads, Man,

774
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:08,239
you'd have a backed up traffic for a quarter miles.

775
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: Same thing I should talk with man the grapes.

776
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:12,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not uncommon on Route twenty to see the

777
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:13,920
farmers tractors.

778
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:16,519
Speaker 16: Right, So I I That's what I when I when

779
00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:18,079
I talked to Channel thirteen, that's what I told him.

780
00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 4: I said, somebody's seen something.

781
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:20,519
Speaker 2: You know.

782
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 16: There's a couple of a couple of other factors. Is

783
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,400
a it was a Sunday morning, Okay, so nobody's it

784
00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:30,400
being Sunday. Well, not that nobody's out it being Sunday.

785
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,119
There's not much construction we're going on. Even if there

786
00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:34,039
was construction, We're going on, if you know what I'm saying, right, Yeah.

787
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:36,280
And then on top of that, and there was no

788
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,199
snow on the ground. It wasn't like the loader was

789
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,719
going to a location to plow snow. It had to

790
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,000
draw attention to someone going to church or you know,

791
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:44,960
church or breakfast.

792
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:46,159
Speaker 2: Those are the only two options.

793
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, But Sean, I'm thinking, even if I was going

794
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,320
to church or breakfast, if I see this guy chugging along,

795
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,920
I'm not thinking it's stolen unless he's going He's going somewhere.

796
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 3: Maybe he's just doing what you did, but putting it

797
00:38:59,239 --> 00:38:59,679
in place.

798
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: But here's the thing about Sunday mornings.

799
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 6: Having been the person going to breakfast or going to church,

800
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,199
and being in a family going to church, the.

801
00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 2: Old man, the guy behind the wheel or the mom

802
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,679
behind the wheel yelling, and everybody getting the car.

803
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,079
Speaker 6: Let's going late, and you're not focused on anything else

804
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:15,679
but getting to church at.

805
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:20,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I get that too. Sure, So this went

806
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,159
thirty seven miles? How long does that take? What's the

807
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:23,760
top seven?

808
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:27,119
Speaker 16: So I'll back the story up a little bit. He

809
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,320
the suspective. I guess you want to call the gentleman.

810
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,199
He rode a bicycle there.

811
00:39:33,159 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 4: Oh I can't. The story gets funnier.

812
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,559
Speaker 16: I got he rode a bicycle there and wait to

813
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:44,760
hear this part. He enters the property or enters the

814
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,960
area of the loader at four forty am. He doesn't

815
00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:53,000
steal it technically until six thirty. He sits in the

816
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,480
back of the plaza and he teaches himself how to

817
00:39:56,559 --> 00:40:00,760
run it. He's going, oh, yeah, one forward words, bucket up,

818
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:01,400
bucket down.

819
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 4: Uh huh.

820
00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's probably a YouTube how to tips dick. Yeah,

821
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,440
some guy from the subcond and go, okay, so here's

822
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,639
how to operate a loader.

823
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is what this is what we're thinking,

824
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,079
like and subscribe.

825
00:40:16,159 --> 00:40:20,679
Speaker 3: Yeah. Did they arrest this guy?

826
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 4: So I get a phone call, like I said, for

827
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,800
the Sheriff's office.

828
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:26,599
Speaker 16: We immediately dispatched one of our low boy trailers to

829
00:40:26,639 --> 00:40:29,559
go pick it up and return. Then we started getting

830
00:40:29,559 --> 00:40:32,679
some little, you know, some information. So it's twenty I've

831
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,760
said this in other interviews. It's twenty twenty four. We're

832
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,679
on camera.

833
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 3: Every everywhere you go, everywhere.

834
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,599
Speaker 16: So they the Sheriff's office got a fist full of

835
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:43,840
subpoenas and they went door to door and they were

836
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,360
they you know, got a lot of footage. So they

837
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,880
got some of the footage and where it started. But

838
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,880
it was found so fast, you want. One of the

839
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,440
things that really really helped was on abandoned road. Uh,

840
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:55,960
the Limits County sheriffs went knocking door to door when

841
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,119
because it was in Limits County, when a passer by

842
00:40:58,199 --> 00:41:01,159
saw it, calls nine one one. Uh, let me say

843
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:02,800
on the sheriff's deep and you show up. They start

844
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,280
canvassing the area. Ever, when starts knocking the door, they said,

845
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,079
you know, to a neighbor, have you seen anything? I

846
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:09,280
know it's you know, this is kind of a dead

847
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,760
end here, and he says, did I see anything? He goes,

848
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,679
I got a trail cam right on that road. They're like,

849
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,119
no way, So we go. They go to the trail cam.

850
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:18,320
They pull the foot of the trail cam.

851
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:18,599
Speaker 3: This.

852
00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:21,199
Speaker 4: This is where it even gets funnier. He drives me,

853
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,800
he drives the machine back there.

854
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 16: He sits in it for five hours, five hours, he

855
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:28,679
just sits there in the machine.

856
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: They fall asleep or it was wonderful.

857
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: Where the how the fun I get out of here?

858
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,920
I left my bike back in Henry.

859
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: What am I doing? Jesus right?

860
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I won't get into any like the details

861
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,760
of what. But he was picked up. Okay, I made

862
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,159
a phone going and got picked up.

863
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,599
Speaker 1: I want to I have a I'll lead you into

864
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:54,159
a place that I think is important for you to say.

865
00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 3: But I'll ask you this.

866
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,599
Speaker 1: I have heard things people talk behind your back and

867
00:41:59,639 --> 00:42:03,239
they say how charitable you are, Like you give you do,

868
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,760
You're very charitable with your company.

869
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: You do a lot of really nice work. My question

870
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:08,119
to you is this.

871
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is true in your business,

872
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,239
but I hear from a lot of people that say

873
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:19,119
it's very hard to find employees right sometimes. Okay, this

874
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,960
guy fucking motivated Sean.

875
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,079
Speaker 3: He taught himself to try.

876
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,639
Speaker 2: Can you give him a job?

877
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,639
Speaker 16: So this was brought up once before, okay, actually twice

878
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:36,519
before on another interview, and I did say, though I

879
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:38,400
did say prior to that, while I was talking to

880
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,079
another employee, I'm like, you know what.

881
00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 4: He drove it thirty seven miles. He didn't damage anything.

882
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:45,880
He studied the machine before he took off to make

883
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,760
sure he wasn't going to damage or hurt the machine.

884
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,079
This guy might be a good hire, you know, as

885
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:51,159
a joke. As a joke.

886
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:54,559
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just saying he's using it as a

887
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:56,199
motivational speech for your employees.

888
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 16: Why it's going to be at the next meeting, I'm

889
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,480
gonna say, look, how nice the stranger who stole it

890
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:07,199
took care of it. How come you guys can't take

891
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,199
care of it the same way.

892
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 3: What's the top speed on this?

893
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 4: About twenty one twenty two miles?

894
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: All right, so you're going you're putting along there? And

895
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:16,400
how much is it? Diesel?

896
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: Yes?

897
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 4: Diesel?

898
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,039
Speaker 3: All right? Did he run out of gas? If I

899
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:21,519
told you this?

900
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 16: He only burned a car. So my employee gets there

901
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:28,000
to pick out the machine. First question I asked is

902
00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:29,400
how much fuel is in it? I don't know why,

903
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:31,360
I just I just wanted to know. Yeah, he said

904
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:32,880
it street quarters of tank.

905
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:35,079
Speaker 4: Wow, I said. I asked him if it was a hybrid?

906
00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:36,320
I said, how did it?

907
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: That's amazing?

908
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 4: In thirty seven miles?

909
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,199
Speaker 16: This is this is ridiculous, but yeah, it's all burned

910
00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:45,119
his story seven miles. One of my friends made the joke.

911
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,960
They said, you were more concerned on how fuel.

912
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:51,679
Speaker 4: Efficient it was? How much fuel is finding the machine?

913
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,039
And I said, You're right, I was.

914
00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:55,199
Speaker 16: I was wor worried about, like, not worried about, was

915
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,280
more curious about how much fuel it burned.

916
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: That's freaking what was the motivation behind?

917
00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 4: So we don't know. It's I gotta be honest, none

918
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:03,960
of it makes sense.

919
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 16: So from the video, like I said, the original part

920
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:08,119
of the video, it does look like he was teaching

921
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:09,320
himself how to run the machine.

922
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:10,679
Speaker 4: But yeah, when he parked it.

923
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 16: He got out, he turned the master switch off, which

924
00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:15,239
powers the machine up, gives you all the power to ignition.

925
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,599
Uh so me, I'm saying to myself, Hey, you know

926
00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:21,199
if what does he care if my battery goes dead?

927
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 4: Right he turns it off, Like what's he care?

928
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:23,519
Speaker 3: Like?

929
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 16: Why are you caring about my battery? Just take off

930
00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:29,840
the bucket was late? He set the bucket perfectly on

931
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:30,800
the ground, Like.

932
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,639
Speaker 1: I'm just wondered, may I ask this? And maybe you

933
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:37,920
don't want to answer? Approximately what age.

934
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:40,199
Speaker 3: Of a man was this that.

935
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,079
Speaker 4: I don't know, okay, because I'm.

936
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,599
Speaker 1: Wondering if this is a guy who's either out of

937
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:47,599
work or whatever or used to do this and goes.

938
00:44:47,679 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 3: Man, this would be fun.

939
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: I don't know it all sounds like a frat prank, right,

940
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,519
you would think young guys. But I but I don't know.

941
00:44:57,159 --> 00:44:59,079
Speaker 2: Morris Community College.

942
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:01,599
Speaker 4: Bouncing back and forth with all this stuff that's been

943
00:45:01,639 --> 00:45:02,320
going through my mind.

944
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 16: Yeah, and I'm saying to myself, Okay, well he waited

945
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,280
five hours for a ride.

946
00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:08,079
Speaker 4: Why didn't he just ask his friend for a ride

947
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:10,360
in the beginning? Yeah, why take the loader that far?

948
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,039
Speaker 16: Just ask you if your friend has to come all

949
00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:13,400
the way to Mount Moors to pick you up, but

950
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,119
I'll just call him asking for you know, asking for

951
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:16,239
riding about Morris, I don't know.

952
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 4: And then you know, why should the master switch off?

953
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:21,000
So some other things that we we thought about and

954
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:23,320
heard you know from the uh.

955
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:27,119
Speaker 16: The police, is that the fact that sometimes they're worried,

956
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,800
so were they stole it on Sunday?

957
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 4: Okay, which we're really not.

958
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 16: You know, they're they're assuming that we're not paying attention

959
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,079
to it. They go and park criminals Steve's, they'll park

960
00:45:36,119 --> 00:45:39,159
a piece of equipment somewhere and leave it for a week,

961
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:42,480
it'll let if it's there. If it's there in a week,

962
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:47,039
they know it's not GPS, gotcha. So then so then

963
00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:50,079
it makes sense who would think of that.

964
00:45:50,119 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 4: I didn't even think of that.

965
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,559
Speaker 1: Yeah did, And you clearly don't have GPS on this one.

966
00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:57,199
Will you start using that now?

967
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 4: So most of my vehicles do.

968
00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 16: We have a large drump truck fleet have sixty seventy

969
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,519
down trucks and they have ford facing and we're facing cameras.

970
00:46:04,519 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 4: They have GPS. So with the wheeloaders they are they also.

971
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:13,599
Speaker 16: Have a GPS and them Unfortunately, of course, just you know,

972
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,280
as lucky it this machine did not have it yet.

973
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,639
It's an older unit. It was probably on the last

974
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:20,480
of the list. I really wasn't worried about it because

975
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,199
we own one hundred and sixteen of them. We own

976
00:46:23,199 --> 00:46:25,320
one hundred and sixteen wheel laders. Yeah, so, and this

977
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,159
is one of the older ones. The last thing I

978
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:29,480
would ever think is that the one that was twenty

979
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:31,039
four years old that would get stolen.

980
00:46:31,199 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is I wouldn't either. I would think that too.

981
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: But what was your biggest fear, Sean, when you heard

982
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,559
that this or you confirmed with your own eyes that

983
00:46:41,679 --> 00:46:43,079
this thing was really missing?

984
00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: What was your biggest fear at that moment?

985
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:45,679
Speaker 4: Truthfully?

986
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 16: To you know, I know we've been laughing and joking

987
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,039
about this, But on a serious note, I was scared

988
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:52,920
to death that they would cause injury to someone. I

989
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,320
mean I get choked up talking about it. I was disgruntled,

990
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,719
could be you know, been in a bad relationationship, whatever

991
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,400
the case may be. What what did you take this for?

992
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:05,559
Speaker 4: Scared to death? I you know, and.

993
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 16: Truthfully wholeheartedly I lost sleep. Not because of the value

994
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,639
of the machine that I was going to lose. I

995
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,119
was so scared that someone was gonna get hurt.

996
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all I.

997
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: Can Yeah, I mean right.

998
00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:20,039
Speaker 1: I think there was a case somewhere that you had

999
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:22,400
mentioned when you and I talked before him, where somebody

1000
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,440
drove a bulldozer or something or maybe a back through

1001
00:47:26,039 --> 00:47:27,880
an ex girlfriend's home.

1002
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, they called it the.

1003
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 16: Kill dozer, and they went to uh, you know, they

1004
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,079
went to town halls and whatnot. He was disgruntled with

1005
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:38,280
with the government and he just he took his vengeance

1006
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,440
out and once it was found, I was, like, I said,

1007
00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:43,159
nobody wants to lose that kind of money. We have

1008
00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:45,039
such a large fleet. We have over four hundred pieces

1009
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:48,719
of equipment. Our insurance deductible is twenty five thousand dollars.

1010
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,840
Our insurance rates are through the roof, so you kind

1011
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,000
of have to eat this kind of stuff.

1012
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:55,039
Speaker 4: So you know that.

1013
00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:56,519
Speaker 16: You know, I understand like a lot of people with

1014
00:47:56,559 --> 00:47:59,039
the car stolen, and we feel I feel bad for everybody,

1015
00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:01,440
but really the condor out there pounding the pavement every

1016
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,440
day trying to make a living, they suffer the most

1017
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,559
when something Because this is not the only theft that

1018
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:07,360
we've had this year.

1019
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 4: We've had some serious We've had some big hits.

1020
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 16: Back in February, we have a side by side caboda

1021
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,920
with a plow and assalter that we also used for sidewalks.

1022
00:48:15,039 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 4: It was stolen out of Walmart, a Walmart, and we

1023
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:18,400
didn't find that.

1024
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 16: Well, that's that's easy to hide, so I didn't really

1025
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,719
think about getting back. You know, it's a side by side.

1026
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,079
You could put on a trailer, take it to your

1027
00:48:24,159 --> 00:48:26,119
hunting camp. We would never see it again, right.

1028
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, but it's side by side. What does that

1029
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,880
run like twenty five it's twenty.

1030
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:32,679
Speaker 16: Five thousand, The plow is six thousand, the salter was

1031
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,840
five thousand, So it was a thirty six thirty seven thousand,

1032
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,760
thirty seven thousand I lost with a company.

1033
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you're trying to write that off and

1034
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:41,559
still right or insurance to cover it and all that stuff.

1035
00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 3: That.

1036
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy because I do wonder. Like I said

1037
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:47,840
in the beginning, you drive by a construction site, you'll

1038
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,840
see equipment sitting for days, and I agree, yeah, and

1039
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,920
so you wonder, Now the GPS thing makes perfect sense.

1040
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,960
I didn't even think of that, or or an Apple

1041
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:57,960
AirTag or something.

1042
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,039
Speaker 16: You know, during my one of my interviews with the news,

1043
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,800
I said, you know, somebody had to see something, and

1044
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:06,440
I even said it today tonight.

1045
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 4: Here they did.

1046
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 16: And you don't give it much thought, but a lot

1047
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,760
of people thought and they said it that people they

1048
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,920
did see it. They thought it was a town machine.

1049
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,960
So it's nothing right for us to see a town machine, right.

1050
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,239
You just don't look at the markings. This particular unit had.

1051
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,480
My initial AP was on there and DASH ninety three

1052
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:25,719
was the equipment number, but it didn't have our name

1053
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,079
on it. Usually we plaster our name. I'm both sides

1054
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:31,599
of this. For some reason, this machine doesn't have it.

1055
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:34,880
It does now, for you know, I got vacation markings,

1056
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,159
so you know, the number was on top.

1057
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,599
Speaker 4: It's hard to see. Really, somebody could have.

1058
00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 16: Thought it was a town machine going to an emergency

1059
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,159
watermeme breaker or whatnot.

1060
00:49:43,199 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1061
00:49:43,639 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm glad you got the equipment. Back hats

1062
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,440
off to the Monroe County Sheriffs for their their diligence,

1063
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,320
and then Livingston County Sheriffs as well.

1064
00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 16: They got they got several fingerprints off the machine. They

1065
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,119
were there for two hours fingerprinting every flat surface. So,

1066
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,519
I mean everyone went above and beyond. And one thing

1067
00:50:01,519 --> 00:50:01,960
I want, I.

1068
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 4: Just want to say, if I can, we have to

1069
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,159
be so proud of where we live.

1070
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:11,639
Speaker 16: This community is. I mean, they're there when you need them.

1071
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,360
So I am very filanthropic. I got choked up when

1072
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,960
I talk. Sorry, so uh And and I've always wondered,

1073
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,280
you know, I do all this for the community, and

1074
00:50:20,639 --> 00:50:21,960
not that I ever want anything in return.

1075
00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:25,519
Speaker 4: You always wonder if if you need them, will be

1076
00:50:25,559 --> 00:50:25,960
there for me.

1077
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 16: Well, let me tell you something brings tears in my eyes.

1078
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,599
Like I said, this community came out of the woodwork

1079
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:38,360
to help me. Was It's humbling, truly, it truly is.

1080
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:39,960
It's it's a you know, like I said, in the beginning,

1081
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,239
we were laughing as a funny matter. Then I got

1082
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,079
a little serious.

1083
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 4: But truthfully, all I can do is tell you that

1084
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:45,280
be proud of where we live.

1085
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,119
Speaker 16: This, this city is this. You know, there's bad things

1086
00:50:48,159 --> 00:50:51,880
that happen here. We live in a great community. When

1087
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,800
you need them, they're there for you. So and and

1088
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,559
and thank you everybody in this community, who who talked,

1089
00:50:57,559 --> 00:51:00,599
who called, who reached out to me, who shared this post.

1090
00:51:01,639 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 4: We love you. This is awesome.

1091
00:51:03,039 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 9: Thank you, that's cool.

1092
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: That is very cool. And I'm glad it all worked

1093
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,840
out for you. And hopefully I don't know, do you

1094
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,360
do you hope for a snowy winter or not?

1095
00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 4: We do, and I'm gonna tell you why, real, real fast.

1096
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,639
Speaker 16: We're a very very very large snow removal company and

1097
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:24,960
we have to prove our worth the last couple of years.

1098
00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:27,119
You don't need they don't need a guy like me

1099
00:51:27,199 --> 00:51:29,360
with all these big loaders. They can hire the pickup

1100
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,159
guy and he's okay. And there's nothing wrong with someone

1101
00:51:31,199 --> 00:51:32,960
just having a pickup. That's not what I'm saying. It's

1102
00:51:33,039 --> 00:51:35,440
just the fact that you know people, you know, we

1103
00:51:35,519 --> 00:51:37,159
have a lot overhead, so you might, I don't know,

1104
00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:38,360
you might pay a little bit more when you when

1105
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,639
you're when you're when you're plumbing a big shopping center

1106
00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:41,159
of plaza.

1107
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,039
Speaker 4: We just we we got to get out there and

1108
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:44,639
prove our our improve our worths.

1109
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 12: Well.

1110
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: I think there is supposed to be a little bit

1111
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,559
more snow. The lake's still warm, so you know that

1112
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:49,480
that helps.

1113
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 2: I'll say this shot. Let me ask you this to

1114
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:52,920
recruit some of the losses.

1115
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 6: Could you take this thing on the road and like

1116
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,079
do autograph signings and pictures and be.

1117
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 2: Like, hey, hey, take a picture with the machine that

1118
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,000
got stolen.

1119
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,639
Speaker 16: You know it's really that's a really good idea if

1120
00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:04,360
you can, if you can help with that.

1121
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 3: I think that would be huge, would be very well Walmart.

1122
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: I mean like good Eddy.

1123
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:11,079
Speaker 6: Girl, like Henry, you're in Henrietta, So I mean you

1124
00:52:11,079 --> 00:52:13,559
could go to either Target Walmart. Trust me, the next

1125
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:15,599
three saturdays are going to be mobbed.

1126
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:16,679
Speaker 2: You could just pull right in.

1127
00:52:16,639 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 3: The parking lot like, hey, dollars a picture, We'll buy

1128
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,039
you a lot. Done.

1129
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:20,599
Speaker 4: Be honest.

1130
00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:23,599
Speaker 16: I think I think we have something here to start.

1131
00:52:24,039 --> 00:52:26,519
Speaker 4: I like, yeah, maybe that's the next podcast. We can

1132
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:28,880
start getting that to a raffle.

1133
00:52:29,039 --> 00:52:29,199
Speaker 14: You know.

1134
00:52:31,039 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 16: And one more thing before we we exit here is

1135
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,400
is that there was a good Samaritan. I don't want

1136
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,119
to say his name just because you know, who knows,

1137
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,280
uh what kind of retaliation could happen, but thank god

1138
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,880
for him. He was driving by on his way to work,

1139
00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:45,280
saw a machine on a on a on a on

1140
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,920
a you know, a seasonal road. Was like, hey, he's

1141
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,440
thought the same thing. He said the same thing. He

1142
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,199
thought it was town thought it was town work. But

1143
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:52,679
it was there for a couple of days, and he,

1144
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,519
you know, he took the initiative to drive back there

1145
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:55,840
to investigate a little further.

1146
00:52:56,159 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 4: And guess what.

1147
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 16: He looked at the numbers and he goes, oh my god,

1148
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:00,639
I've seen this social media.

1149
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there it is. That's great.

1150
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:04,519
Speaker 2: It takes one, No, it takes one.

1151
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 3: I'm glad, glad it worked out, Sean. And thank you

1152
00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:11,159
for your time, and thank you keep doing great work.

1153
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 4: I'll try thank you for thanks for everything. I appreciate

1154
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:14,800
your work.

1155
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,679
Speaker 3: All right, see you later. Here goes Sean Fico. That

1156
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,920
was that. What a story, Danny, what a story? Wow?

1157
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,519
Speaker 2: I really like to take a picture with the machines. Yeah, idea,

1158
00:53:24,519 --> 00:53:25,880
I think that'd be a great idea.

1159
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,639
Speaker 3: Take a picture of the target. Could you bring out.

1160
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,519
Speaker 2: There'll be a target from noon to Walmart from two

1161
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:30,960
to four.

1162
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: Can you can you get the guy who stole it?

1163
00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:38,159
Can we put him in a jail cell.

1164
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,639
Speaker 2: Raise money and you have to buy his way out?

1165
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know what I'm saying.

1166
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll take a moment when we come back.

1167
00:53:48,119 --> 00:53:51,639
Lots of things to get into from uh. I gotta

1168
00:53:51,679 --> 00:53:54,320
go check this headline out that I saw just before

1169
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,079
we came on the air.

1170
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,199
Speaker 3: So we'll get to that more. Right after this.

1171
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: bTB would fire and grill in the mall at Grease Ridge.

1172
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,559
You're gonna be out doing some shopping, why not swing

1173
00:54:05,679 --> 00:54:11,639
by and try some of their unbelievable winter specials, great

1174
00:54:11,679 --> 00:54:16,079
deals and look, you know, maybe you let bTB do

1175
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:21,639
some babysitting for your husband or your sixty Just saying like,

1176
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:23,880
guys don't want to shop all that much.

1177
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 3: You know what guys want to do. They want to

1178
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,599
come warm up with meatloaf cupcakes, housemade meatloaf top with

1179
00:54:29,679 --> 00:54:32,039
mashed potatoes, with cheese and bacon.

1180
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: That sounds like the perfect afternoon you shop. I'll even

1181
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,719
kick in money. Yeah, that's fine.

1182
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,679
Speaker 3: Just let me go to bTB. I want to watch

1183
00:54:40,679 --> 00:54:42,880
the game. I want to all over the fifty TVs

1184
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,920
that they have. I want to be able to sit

1185
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,159
down and have one of the meat loaf cupcakes. That

1186
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,119
sounds amazing. And there's all kinds of great cocktail specials.

1187
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,360
With the winter specials, there's also a delicious food as well.

1188
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,159
The Paisano is back. Love the Paisano. It's the monster

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that just won't leave you hungry. It's two housemade chicken cutlets, supersada, pepperoni, salami, capacl,

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a fresh slice mozzarella Danny, It's good for you. Yeah, arugula,

1191
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:13,920
roasted red peppers, balsamic vinaigrette served with fries. And of

1192
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,280
course on Sunday they have that great brunch. But buy one,

1193
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,360
get one of Mimosa's. The menu is off the charts

1194
00:55:19,639 --> 00:55:21,960
and still football seas and it's still football season. That's

1195
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:22,760
what I was going to say.

1196
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,199
Speaker 1: So you get it all at bTB, Woodfire Pizza and

1197
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Speaker 14: Dolling, knees Fields and the hot summer sun over by

1212
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,960
the gate. Lordie here she comes with a basketful of

1213
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:39,480
chicken and a big cold Joe.

1214
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 2: The sweet tea.

1215
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:47,519
Speaker 3: She thinks, my wheeloader sexy. I like this idea. We

1216
00:56:47,519 --> 00:56:50,719
should make that happen. Bring out the wheeloader. Take your

1217
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,719
picture right, Get her what it would be really for

1218
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:59,280
five maybe a little more? Five dollars donation. Yeah, you

1219
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:04,280
get to try to you know what I mean, I

1220
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,480
don't know, would be kind of funny.

1221
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,599
Speaker 2: The guy studied to how to drive it.

1222
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, four in the morning, till six o'clock.

1223
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta go to bed.

1224
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 3: Why what's up?

1225
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,559
Speaker 2: I gotta go up at the morning and still still

1226
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:16,119
a little bit.

1227
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,559
Speaker 6: It's so ride my bike out to uh Henrietta so strange.

1228
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 3: Uh, Danny, you haven't been here for a couple of days.

1229
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,000
I ask you this.

1230
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,519
Speaker 1: Uh Buffalo Bill's going out to Los Angeles taking on

1231
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:31,159
the rams.

1232
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:32,239
Speaker 3: How are you feeling about it?

1233
00:57:32,239 --> 00:57:33,239
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about it.

1234
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,239
Speaker 6: I mean they've done well. I love what Dean Dawkins

1235
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,519
said today. That is quarterback right now. You know, he goes,

1236
00:57:37,559 --> 00:57:39,440
he's in a different headspace and he goes.

1237
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: He didn't assess.

1238
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:42,159
Speaker 6: Blame or anything, but he says, basically, he's saying that

1239
00:57:42,199 --> 00:57:43,880
Allen is more present now than ever before.

1240
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:44,719
Speaker 2: He's not distracted.

1241
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's your caged he's getting laid on them.

1242
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 6: He didn't say that, but he's what I heard that.

1243
00:57:53,079 --> 00:57:53,559
Speaker 2: Oh did you?

1244
00:57:53,719 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1245
00:57:54,119 --> 00:57:56,159
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, our man on the street over at

1246
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:57,280
Connors and Ferris.

1247
00:57:57,719 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 3: No.

1248
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,679
Speaker 6: But I mean, I'm feeling pretty good about it now.

1249
00:57:59,719 --> 00:58:01,480
The one thing I wrote an article for The Times

1250
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,199
this weekend talks about the pros and the cons of

1251
00:58:04,199 --> 00:58:06,199
the Buffalo Bills right now because they're tending to, but

1252
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,840
they still are a game behind KSE in terms of

1253
00:58:09,079 --> 00:58:11,639
home field advanage getting a first round by They're getting

1254
00:58:11,639 --> 00:58:12,679
healthy at the right time.

1255
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: They're hitting all the numbers.

1256
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,239
Speaker 6: There's one little thing that scares me, and that is

1257
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,719
San Francisco cashed him for about seven yards.

1258
00:58:19,519 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: Acare on the ground.

1259
00:58:21,199 --> 00:58:23,599
Speaker 6: They if teams stop throwing the football and just run

1260
00:58:23,639 --> 00:58:25,920
on the bills, they have a pretty good shot at

1261
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,760
like keeping Allen off the field. I mean, this team

1262
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,079
scored thirty points a game the last six games. They've

1263
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:34,000
gotten to takeaway in every single game. Micah Hyde's coming back.

1264
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:35,599
I don't know if he's going to be you know,

1265
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,559
he sat out the entire season. He might be on

1266
00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:39,960
the active roster in the playoffs.

1267
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,199
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's like a bonus.

1268
00:58:41,239 --> 00:58:45,079
Speaker 6: Really everything's looking in Buffalo's favor, but they still have

1269
00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:47,559
to finish the season like they did last year, not

1270
00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:49,440
to get in the playoffs and win the division. Now

1271
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,400
and I got that wrapped up to make sure they

1272
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,159
don't end up in like, Okay, we got to host

1273
00:58:53,159 --> 00:58:55,280
the first round playoff game. Fight our way through that.

1274
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,480
Injuries will happen, and then the second round could put

1275
00:58:58,639 --> 00:59:02,039
season ends like it's last each of the last three years.

1276
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,239
So one thing that kind of shocks me. There's a

1277
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,840
radio station in Buffalo that we not they shouldn't shock me,

1278
00:59:10,239 --> 00:59:13,000
but they said, you know, they talked about Micah Hyde

1279
00:59:13,039 --> 00:59:16,199
coming back and his interception against the Patriots in the

1280
00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:16,880
playoff game out.

1281
00:59:17,039 --> 00:59:19,159
Speaker 2: Were you at that game? Yes, okay, it was nuts.

1282
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,039
Speaker 6: Then he had the Taron Johnson one during the pandemic, yes,

1283
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,280
a couple of years before or the year before. And

1284
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,239
then there's the Carlton Bailey won in the ninety one

1285
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,679
championship game that led them to the Super Bowl, and

1286
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,639
most Bills fans today polled, but eighty five percent of

1287
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,880
said it was one of the other two, Like it

1288
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,599
was Taron Johnson or Michael Hyde them like, guys, in

1289
00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:45,119
what in ninety the interception from either Taron Johnson or

1290
00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:47,440
Michaeh Hyde was bigger in Bill's history, bigger for the

1291
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,239
franchis than Carlton Bailey. I'm like, this is why nobody

1292
00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:51,119
takes Bills fans so.

1293
00:59:51,719 --> 00:59:56,079
Speaker 3: But probably talking to young fans who don't want.

1294
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: But here, if you're gonna be a Bills fan, yeah, no,

1295
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,199
your history and Carlton Bailey.

1296
00:59:58,920 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 3: Got the back.

1297
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,079
Speaker 2: Bailey doesn't catch that brawl and running in the end

1298
01:00:02,119 --> 01:00:03,039
ze for a touchdown.

1299
01:00:03,199 --> 01:00:06,199
Speaker 6: There's no four straight Super bowls. I mean, like it's

1300
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,880
it's math. You do the math, you know. I was

1301
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,760
kind of shocked by that. I feel pretty good about

1302
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,519
the Bills. But but you know, Sean mcvay's no dummy.

1303
01:00:13,559 --> 01:00:16,119
He's gonna try to like poke Coles in that Bill's defense.

1304
01:00:16,159 --> 01:00:18,719
You can't run zone on the on the rams either. Yeah,

1305
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,639
you gotta play man for man and that's hard.

1306
01:00:20,719 --> 01:00:22,159
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be interesting. But I think the Bills

1307
01:00:22,199 --> 01:00:23,440
will pull it out. I think they'll win by a

1308
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:24,320
couple of touchdowns.

1309
01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 3: Uh, okay, a couple of touchdowns.

1310
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,039
Speaker 2: But I am scared for the run defense because nobody's

1311
01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:31,880
really challenged him so far this year.

1312
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,079
Speaker 1: No, they started if Christian McCaffrey did not get injured.

1313
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: But even if he, even if he did get hurt,

1314
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:38,440
they have other running backs.

1315
01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but they seem

1316
01:00:41,079 --> 01:00:44,559
to stall out after that. Maybe I don't know. Shawn's

1317
01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:46,039
great at adjusting.

1318
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, halftime Bobby Babitch has done a great job. Yeah,

1319
01:00:49,079 --> 01:00:51,719
and Sean McDermott of adjusting there. But I mean, I

1320
01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:54,480
do like Buffalo's chances. And of course, you know, like

1321
01:00:54,519 --> 01:00:56,079
this is being taped. By the time people listen to

1322
01:00:56,079 --> 01:00:58,480
already know the results of the Lions Packers game.

1323
01:00:58,519 --> 01:01:02,199
Speaker 2: But then you get the Lions in Troit and people are.

1324
01:01:02,039 --> 01:01:05,599
Speaker 6: Calling that the game of the year. So it's you

1325
01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:08,840
got to keep winning. It's not gonna be Oh no,

1326
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,960
you gotta at least have as many losses as the

1327
01:01:11,039 --> 01:01:14,519
Chiefs to lock up home field advanage. If not, you're

1328
01:01:14,599 --> 01:01:16,599
gonna end up playing there one way or another. Or

1329
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,960
kids city hasn't been playing well, maybe they'll lose that

1330
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,360
first playoff game. And ed everybody and their mother's gonna

1331
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,039
try to bud Greg Cotters to get tickets to that

1332
01:01:24,039 --> 01:01:25,199
AFC Championship game.

1333
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: You me, Kevin, I need two seats please. Uh.

1334
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:33,559
Speaker 1: Now, there's a headline that I saw earlier today, just

1335
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:36,239
before we were coming on the year, Okay, And I

1336
01:01:36,519 --> 01:01:39,320
laughed at the headline because all I saw was.

1337
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,639
Speaker 3: Bus driver encouraged.

1338
01:01:43,119 --> 01:01:45,639
Speaker 1: Something and I and then I went away and I

1339
01:01:45,679 --> 01:01:48,320
went on my phone and the story wasn't updated yet.

1340
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:49,159
Speaker 2: Now I have it.

1341
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 3: From the local NBC affiliate.

1342
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: Police investigating after bus driver fired for allegedly encouraging fifth

1343
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,199
graders to fight while pulled over en route.

1344
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: This isn't the first time I've heard of something. So

1345
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,559
did they have a fight club a couple of years

1346
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:04,960
ago where a bus driver pulled over? Substitute bus driver?

1347
01:02:05,039 --> 01:02:06,159
All right, guys, duke it out.

1348
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't remember.

1349
01:02:07,639 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: A local bus driver has been fired after parents and

1350
01:02:10,039 --> 01:02:14,760
students say he encouraged a boxing match between fifth graders.

1351
01:02:15,159 --> 01:02:16,199
Speaker 2: How old was he sixty?

1352
01:02:16,639 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1353
01:02:17,079 --> 01:02:20,199
Speaker 1: He pulled over, he got by day, He got up

1354
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,320
out of the seat, standing on the aisle and said, okay,

1355
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,119
who wants to fight? Says Jelan Powell Junior, a fifth

1356
01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:32,000
grader at a charter school, says his bus driver encuraged

1357
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,800
another child to fight him. He punched me, I hand

1358
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,159
him back and we started fighting.

1359
01:02:36,239 --> 01:02:37,679
Speaker 2: Say that for public school. Please.

1360
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,679
Speaker 1: The bus driver wasn't happy with the way the fight

1361
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:42,440
turned out.

1362
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: So he's like, because he had money on the other kid.

1363
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,559
Speaker 1: No, no, no, who else wants to fight him? So

1364
01:02:48,599 --> 01:02:53,239
then another boy says, I'll do it a second round

1365
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,079
with a different student, And then the diamond, who is

1366
01:02:57,199 --> 01:03:00,480
Jealan's mother, says, when my son's mouth started bleeding.

1367
01:03:01,519 --> 01:03:04,039
Speaker 3: He didn't. He didn't give him a tissue. He didn't

1368
01:03:04,039 --> 01:03:05,880
turn around and go back, and he didn't give m

1369
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:11,639
a standing. They learned the situation when Jeelan got off

1370
01:03:11,639 --> 01:03:13,800
the bus with a bloody lip. His sister rides the

1371
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,079
same bus and solving incident, which prompted a call to

1372
01:03:17,159 --> 01:03:18,360
the principal.

1373
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: And the bus company a supervisor. Well, hang on, we

1374
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,519
got I think we have the actual story here. Let's

1375
01:03:24,519 --> 01:03:25,400
just see if we can.

1376
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:26,079
Speaker 2: Do at six.

1377
01:03:26,519 --> 01:03:29,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, bus driver turned fight club on a

1378
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:30,559
city street.

1379
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,599
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see if you're right with this. You might

1380
01:03:32,639 --> 01:03:35,320
be right. I don't know. Here we go, let's see

1381
01:03:36,719 --> 01:03:37,320
here it comes.

1382
01:03:38,639 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 2: Turning now to a News ten NBC investigation.

1383
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 6: A local bus driver fired after parents and students say

1384
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,480
he encouraged boxing matches between fifth graders. The mother of

1385
01:03:49,519 --> 01:03:51,679
one of the kids involved called News TENNBC.

1386
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's been fired. Yes, all right, so it's over.

1387
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,480
You have a Danny investigation. He's been fired. Okay, so

1388
01:03:59,480 --> 01:03:59,840
what's there?

1389
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 3: Don't know about the fight now.

1390
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: Now it's not an investigation now, it's gossip. But that's

1391
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:05,760
my point.

1392
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,039
Speaker 3: Wow, go ahead, let's get.

1393
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,719
Speaker 6: The castigative reporter Jennifer Luki to help get answers and

1394
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,000
some accountability.

1395
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 12: I go at Expiation charter school and I'm in fifth grade.

1396
01:04:18,599 --> 01:04:21,519
Speaker 17: Jellan Powell takes in Ontario bus to get to and

1397
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:24,599
from that charter school every day. When he got off

1398
01:04:24,639 --> 01:04:27,519
Monday evening, his mom, Diamond says, he was out of

1399
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:29,039
breath and had a bloody lip.

1400
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 9: He was very upset.

1401
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,239
Speaker 7: He was still breathing hard, like it had just happened.

1402
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:34,559
He had his cloth in his hands.

1403
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,239
Speaker 17: She couldn't believe what he told her had happened.

1404
01:04:38,559 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 12: They just pulled over and then he got about the

1405
01:04:42,039 --> 01:04:46,719
seat standing nile and had said, okay, who want to fight?

1406
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 17: Says another child to fight for the second round?

1407
01:04:53,199 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 12: I hit him back and we started fighting.

1408
01:04:56,239 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 17: And it didn't stop there.

1409
01:04:57,519 --> 01:05:00,519
Speaker 7: The bus driver wasn't happy with the way to fight

1410
01:05:00,599 --> 01:05:03,360
turned out, so he like, no, no, no, who else

1411
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:03,920
you want to fight?

1412
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,199
Speaker 17: So then another boy says a second round with a

1413
01:05:09,239 --> 01:05:09,960
different student.

1414
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,079
Speaker 7: My mouthstar believing he didn't give him a tssue, he

1415
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:15,159
did turn around and go back and get in his seat.

1416
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,159
Speaker 17: Dellion's sister runs the same bus and saw the whole thing.

1417
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,159
Mom called the principal and Ontario Bus Company right away.

1418
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,280
A supervisor for Ontario pulled the video from the bus's camera.

1419
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 7: They see what they needed to see in order to

1420
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,880
fire him, and what they saw matches what my son said,

1421
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:34,239
as well as the other kids that they interviewed on

1422
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:34,760
the bus.

1423
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,599
Speaker 17: The CEO of Ontario Bus Company tells me the audio

1424
01:05:38,679 --> 01:05:41,800
on the camera wasn't working properly the day of the

1425
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,719
whether the driver was indeed egging on the children.

1426
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 3: Just like radio ship, Just like radio stations don't tape

1427
01:05:51,039 --> 01:05:51,679
every show.

1428
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 2: Oh I know right, we.

1429
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,199
Speaker 1: Don't have tape that we could get.

1430
01:05:55,239 --> 01:06:01,159
Speaker 3: It doesn't exist. Get the fuck out. I've lived through

1431
01:06:01,199 --> 01:06:01,719
those days.

1432
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 17: He can't see in the video that the bus is

1433
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,960
pulled over, the children are fighting, and the driver is

1434
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,519
not doing anything to break it up. He also says

1435
01:06:12,519 --> 01:06:15,280
that that driver did not report to dispatch that a

1436
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,079
fight had happened that day and didn't say anything about

1437
01:06:18,119 --> 01:06:20,119
it when he got back here to home base.

1438
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna take this lightly because we don't. He

1439
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,559
didn't just wake up and say I'm gonna have some

1440
01:06:25,679 --> 01:06:28,079
kids fight today, you know what I mean? Like, maybe

1441
01:06:28,119 --> 01:06:31,320
it's other kids that has experienced him.

1442
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,679
Speaker 17: The executive director of Exploration Charter School sent me this

1443
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,800
statement that reads, in part quote, we are working closely

1444
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,159
with those involved in Ontario Bus to not only investigate

1445
01:06:41,199 --> 01:06:44,440
the incident, but ensure that protective measures are implemented.

1446
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 3: To your mouthguard, we're bar knuckles but it.

1447
01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 17: Transportation director told the family quote, I met you today

1448
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,840
when I was in Ontario Bus Company. I stayed there

1449
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,880
and viewed the video of the incident. You told me

1450
01:07:00,239 --> 01:07:03,639
the drivers did happen. I can confirm the driver was fired.

1451
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,800
If you would like to press charges, please contact the police.

1452
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,639
Speaker 2: The driver's gonna wear a short sleeve blue shirt and

1453
01:07:08,679 --> 01:07:09,480
a bow tie.

1454
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 7: He's not going to just be put on a different

1455
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:13,920
route to do it some more kids.

1456
01:07:14,119 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 8: We not.

1457
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 7: He's not going to just get fired and be able

1458
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,360
to go work for first student. No, he don't need

1459
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,840
to work for no, No, nothing that got something to

1460
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:23,480
do with kids.

1461
01:07:23,519 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 13: He talks.

1462
01:07:24,639 --> 01:07:27,559
Speaker 17: The Ontario Bus CEO says the driver started working for

1463
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:29,920
the company at the start of this school year. He

1464
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,320
has had it and Ontario will cooperate with any outside

1465
01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:34,079
All right.

1466
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:35,239
Speaker 3: So there's the story from them.

1467
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,119
Speaker 2: I didn't realize I should know better than this.

1468
01:07:37,199 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 6: But never, never, dawned down me because I went to

1469
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:41,400
a small school. The school district employed the buses and

1470
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,599
the bus driver. I didn't realize they outsourced.

1471
01:07:43,679 --> 01:07:46,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, bus Carson, it's a bus companies for like the

1472
01:07:46,239 --> 01:07:48,239
city and some other places. Your kids.

1473
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 2: It was really bad.

1474
01:07:49,519 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 3: Well, like Fairport has their own. Yeah, they'll say, Victor

1475
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:52,920
has their own.

1476
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,199
Speaker 2: They's got Chinter school kids, the School of the Arts kids.

1477
01:07:56,239 --> 01:07:59,039
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what, man, there's this one kid over

1478
01:07:59,079 --> 01:08:00,480
at Monroe Avenue School.

1479
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: That guy can fight.

1480
01:08:02,599 --> 01:08:05,239
Speaker 1: So here's the thing is, like I remember as a kid,

1481
01:08:05,639 --> 01:08:08,880
the bus driver pulling over because we were so loud

1482
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,519
and obnoxious and throwing ship and all this pulling over

1483
01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:16,880
to getting up out of the seat and screaming, screaming

1484
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,439
at us. And then I think even like kids fighting

1485
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,720
and stuff, it wasn't uncommon to see a fight in.

1486
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,119
Speaker 3: That in the.

1487
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,399
Speaker 2: School called Thursday.

1488
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I remember, like this one kid, Lauren Pickering.

1489
01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: What a great name that is. Lauren was a big

1490
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:38,680
burly kid, and but he was he was Lauren. Yeah,

1491
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:40,800
l O R I n like Lauren Michaels.

1492
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:45,199
Speaker 2: I thought about Lauren like a boy named Laura one fights.

1493
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,039
Speaker 3: No, So Lauren was and I remember him.

1494
01:08:48,279 --> 01:08:52,119
Speaker 1: Uh, this other kid, little guy got up and sucked

1495
01:08:52,159 --> 01:08:54,960
him right in the face, and they just stunned him.

1496
01:08:55,039 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 3: But as time went on, Lauren was a big dude

1497
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,760
when he you know, as he got older.

1498
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 1: But at that time he's probably just a little fat guy,

1499
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,000
and he was a bit of a bully. And I

1500
01:09:05,039 --> 01:09:07,000
remember this kid, like a year younger than them, got

1501
01:09:07,039 --> 01:09:08,520
up and popped and right in the face.

1502
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 2: Let me tell you so, if you're a bus driver,

1503
01:09:10,119 --> 01:09:12,840
you gotta be the You have to maintain order on

1504
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:17,800
the first day. You have to set the tone.

1505
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 6: And man, when you do those kids for you, you're

1506
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,760
not gonna have a problem the rest of the year.

1507
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 2: We had a few bus drivers in my day. Man,

1508
01:09:26,039 --> 01:09:27,840
they set the tone. You did not mess with.

1509
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:28,319
Speaker 3: I had to.

1510
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 1: I had the same bus driver from kindergarten and up

1511
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,319
to my senior year, missus.

1512
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 3: Uh.

1513
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:39,039
Speaker 1: There were two of them. One was oh god, missus Canburn.

1514
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,359
She was one and her son Garrett was just an asshole.

1515
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,119
And then uh, missus let's see.

1516
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:47,159
Speaker 3: Uh.

1517
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,119
Speaker 1: I had a song for her because she was short

1518
01:09:51,119 --> 01:09:54,479
and fat. Oh missus Barry, I just got it because

1519
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,319
of the song. H yeah, missus, she's two feet high

1520
01:09:58,319 --> 01:10:00,399
and four feet wide. She wears those shape. It's upon

1521
01:10:00,399 --> 01:10:00,800
her eyes.

1522
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:01,359
Speaker 3: She's my.

1523
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,359
Speaker 1: Very so I saw he used to sing that at

1524
01:10:06,359 --> 01:10:08,439
the top of my lungs. You would think this woman

1525
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,199
will want to drop kick me out of the bus.

1526
01:10:10,359 --> 01:10:12,199
But she was so sweet and she I think she

1527
01:10:12,319 --> 01:10:16,720
was my bus driver from kindergarten right on. Yeah, oh wow.

1528
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,359
Speaker 6: So we had uh when we moved up to my

1529
01:10:19,359 --> 01:10:21,359
grandparents' house and took that over. We had two bus

1530
01:10:21,399 --> 01:10:23,800
forty nine and we had two bus drivers. We had Ron,

1531
01:10:24,039 --> 01:10:26,439
this old guy all right, Dan, I go doing one money,

1532
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,119
and then we had this woman and then he got

1533
01:10:28,199 --> 01:10:30,039
sick and one in the hospital had to retire, so

1534
01:10:30,079 --> 01:10:31,920
he was like the seventies new driver, so we replaced

1535
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:32,960
him with Missus Michaels.

1536
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:34,560
Speaker 2: Missus Michaels was strict from day one.

1537
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 6: Man.

1538
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:35,359
Speaker 2: She laid down the.

1539
01:10:35,359 --> 01:10:37,239
Speaker 6: Lawn once you got to do or. She was actually

1540
01:10:37,279 --> 01:10:40,159
pretty cool. Well years go by.

1541
01:10:40,359 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 2: I go to college, then I go into radio. Then

1542
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,680
I lose by radio job. My dad's dying.

1543
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 6: I go home and I'm in the driveway in about

1544
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,279
seven twenty in the morning and Miss Michael slows down

1545
01:10:52,079 --> 01:10:54,479
Bus forty nine, which then became bus seventy.

1546
01:10:54,359 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 2: Dan, how are you? How's life? I I lost my job.

1547
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:00,199
Speaker 3: I didn't say it out.

1548
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,159
Speaker 2: That's good hiring.

1549
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,119
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, this is my life right now. The

1550
01:11:05,159 --> 01:11:07,640
bus still comes by. What did I do with my life?

1551
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,479
I went to radio and lost my My father was

1552
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,279
dying in the house, and I'm just like, I happen

1553
01:11:12,319 --> 01:11:14,000
to be out taking the trash out because I.

1554
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,279
Speaker 2: Was home visiting, and I'm like, this is where my

1555
01:11:16,359 --> 01:11:18,359
life is. The bus is going by. What did I

1556
01:11:18,399 --> 01:11:19,159
do with myself?

1557
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:25,399
Speaker 3: Oh? Gosh, well, I uh, You've done great things with yourself.

1558
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,079
I know you're never wrong and never wrong, never get

1559
01:11:28,119 --> 01:11:28,479
it wrong.

1560
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 2: Just just gotta keep on moving, keep moving forward.

1561
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all you do. Yeah, change your mindset a

1562
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:35,239
little bit, you know.

1563
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,520
Speaker 2: I'll say this, I chased my dream.

1564
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:38,039
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1565
01:11:38,039 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 6: A lot of people like you know, don't do that.

1566
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,720
They take the safer route, and good for them. Yeah,

1567
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:42,279
good for them.

1568
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 2: I went all in, man, I went all in.

1569
01:11:45,239 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah I did too, And you know I worked out

1570
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,000
for you. Yeah, you did really well. Man. I know

1571
01:11:53,199 --> 01:11:55,920
we're all here, daddy. That's right I have to say.

1572
01:11:56,039 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: And we'll get more into this when we do the

1573
01:11:58,840 --> 01:11:59,800
second anniversary thing.

1574
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,039
Speaker 3: But I've I kind of like this more.

1575
01:12:03,319 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we've talked about it.

1576
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I talk about it.

1577
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: It's the conversation that from radio when the MIC's were off. Yeah,

1578
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:11,000
the stuff we talked about, how to.

1579
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 3: Do that stuff?

1580
01:12:12,039 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 2: Five twenty Every Morning, Tommy Walks and Brown. Check this out.

1581
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,000
You hear what happened last night?

1582
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 3: Every Day.

1583
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 6: The Gossip column Sally Carpenter Old, Fred, you should say

1584
01:12:21,119 --> 01:12:23,640
I used to believe women were more you know, and

1585
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,079
then that you guys would trust me.

1586
01:12:25,119 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: It's men. Men are way more gossipy than we.

1587
01:12:28,319 --> 01:12:30,199
Speaker 3: She was right, Yeah, yeah, she was.

1588
01:12:30,319 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 2: Have you talked to her over the years. I haven't either.

1589
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,239
I've tried to reaching out to her, but I haven't

1590
01:12:34,239 --> 01:12:34,520
heard it.

1591
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,079
Speaker 3: I've been Yeah, I was bad at that.

1592
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not easy to stay in touch your your

1593
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:41,279
life moves on.

1594
01:12:41,359 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 3: You know.

1595
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, I don't know. Even now, I feel

1596
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,880
bad because things get so busy with different.

1597
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 6: Things, especially like with the holiday is coming up now.

1598
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,560
It's like it's gonna be Christmas before you know it.

1599
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're twenty days away right now. Yes, yeah, it's

1600
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:55,279
December fifth.

1601
01:12:55,319 --> 01:12:57,079
Speaker 6: My wife's already like, okay, so what are we doing

1602
01:12:57,079 --> 01:12:59,359
I'm like, I don't know. We just got done with Thanksgiving.

1603
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,600
You know, with my family, we don't plan anything. It

1604
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:05,359
just kind of happened. I know, my brother just flew

1605
01:13:05,399 --> 01:13:06,119
back to Florida.

1606
01:13:06,199 --> 01:13:06,359
Speaker 2: You know.

1607
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: It's yeah, that's always my thing too, is that I

1608
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,079
don't plan enough and whatever. Now that I have Jamison

1609
01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:14,199
and stuff, I mean, I've been a little better at that,

1610
01:13:14,239 --> 01:13:14,840
but I mean.

1611
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 3: He just guess to me a lot.

1612
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I can imagine.

1613
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 3: He started to cook last night.

1614
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: I've so I've been trying to eat different from him

1615
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:29,439
because I realized I've ballooned up a bit. So I'm like, well,

1616
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,520
first of all, change the diet. Then we'll get some

1617
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,239
workouts going and we'll figure that out schedule wise. But

1618
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,760
in the meantime, I've been I went back to what

1619
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:39,960
I used to call and I even said it to

1620
01:13:40,039 --> 01:13:40,560
a kid.

1621
01:13:40,359 --> 01:13:43,319
Speaker 3: Today, and I go, I wonder if I'm allowed to

1622
01:13:43,359 --> 01:13:46,359
say that. But I had I used to eat two

1623
01:13:46,399 --> 01:13:49,119
boiled eggs in an apple. I would call my prison breakfast.

1624
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,039
But it's balanced, it is and it's good, and that's

1625
01:13:54,039 --> 01:13:54,560
what you know.

1626
01:13:55,159 --> 01:13:59,319
Speaker 1: So I had that, But and I've been trying to

1627
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,760
so I had chicken in the fridge and then a

1628
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,920
bunch of chicken in the freezer. Put the chicken in

1629
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,439
the fridge, I could just throw in the air fyre,

1630
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,560
flip it over, boom, chop it up, season it, throw,

1631
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,640
you know, have seasoned it while I cooked it, and

1632
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,000
then throw it over a salad or something. I come

1633
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,600
home last night from doing the podcast and I come in.

1634
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:18,880
I go, wow, it smells good here.

1635
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'm making such and such a thing. I

1636
01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:22,880
used all the chicken that was in the fridge.

1637
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 2: I go, what, And my wife gets on me for

1638
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:26,600
the same stuff.

1639
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,319
Speaker 1: Batter made a batter for this. One was a spicy batter,

1640
01:14:30,359 --> 01:14:33,239
and one was another one. One actually had Captain crunching it.

1641
01:14:33,239 --> 01:14:35,399
It's like living with Elf. I have no idea what's

1642
01:14:35,399 --> 01:14:36,840
going on, Like you know what I'm saying.

1643
01:14:37,119 --> 01:14:38,119
Speaker 3: So he makes all this stuff.

1644
01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 1: There's all this extra battery or alf no, well both,

1645
01:14:44,039 --> 01:14:46,600
so I don't say anything. I go, I'm just gonna

1646
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,319
let this go. I wound up eating some of it

1647
01:14:49,359 --> 01:14:50,560
and it was actually pretty good.

1648
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, it made so much batter. I thought

1649
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,640
there was more chicken. We could use it again. I go,

1650
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,520
I'm not sure about this. So that's in the fridge

1651
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:02,319
and everything. Thing is a mess, and he tried to

1652
01:15:02,359 --> 01:15:05,479
clean it up. I did not supervise, did not say anything.

1653
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:10,439
I came home this afternoon before coming over here actually

1654
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:14,079
picking him up and after basketball, and it took me

1655
01:15:14,119 --> 01:15:16,640
an hour to get the kitchen back to what I

1656
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:17,760
call ground zero.

1657
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,039
Speaker 1: And I haven't even touched the floor yet. I just

1658
01:15:20,079 --> 01:15:23,319
got the counters clean, all the dishes, got done, all

1659
01:15:23,359 --> 01:15:24,399
this stuff to sink.

1660
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,039
Speaker 3: I mean just I'm like, I can't live that way.

1661
01:15:27,319 --> 01:15:28,199
And that's the stuff.

1662
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,039
Speaker 1: And I go, man if I when I was a kid,

1663
01:15:31,319 --> 01:15:33,880
and I know my parents will probably tell me that

1664
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:35,960
this would have never happened, but I would have been

1665
01:15:36,039 --> 01:15:40,600
chewed at, screamed at. And I'm like, I don't want

1666
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,199
to I don't have time to do that. I don't

1667
01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:44,880
have time to wait for him to clean this up.

1668
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:46,359
It's it's not that big a place.

1669
01:15:46,399 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 3: I can't.

1670
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,159
Speaker 1: I gotta I'll certainly have the conversation to go, buddy,

1671
01:15:50,279 --> 01:15:53,159
you clean. And he did try, but I mean, I'm

1672
01:15:53,239 --> 01:15:55,880
I'm looking at you know, hot sauce stains all over

1673
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:56,520
the counters.

1674
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,079
Speaker 3: I mean, it was a fucking mess.

1675
01:15:59,159 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, so with my wife, you know, we don't have kids, obviously,

1676
01:16:03,159 --> 01:16:05,319
but you know I My job is to make sure

1677
01:16:05,319 --> 01:16:07,439
the kitchen remains clean at all times. Her job is

1678
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,880
to maintain the groceries and cook dinner because if I

1679
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,560
used to stow, I'll screw it up. And it's funny

1680
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:18,680
because I now my wife is such a meticulous planner

1681
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,000
that I actually have to text her at work, hey.

1682
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 2: Can I eat this?

1683
01:16:22,399 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 6: Not because she'll yell at me if I eat it,

1684
01:16:25,239 --> 01:16:28,399
but she might be planning it for something else and

1685
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:32,600
I have to beat ready in case, did you write the.

1686
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 2: Blueberries that was supposed to be for a special pun?

1687
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:38,319
Speaker 1: I totally get it. Yeah, because when I was married

1688
01:16:38,319 --> 01:16:41,119
it was the same thing. Yeah, who wait, all blah

1689
01:16:41,159 --> 01:16:41,600
blah blah.

1690
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, like dad told us a good die. I was like, yep, yep, yep,

1691
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,760
all right, we're gonna take a moment. There's some This

1692
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:54,199
story is outrageous. I'm not all that familiar with it.

1693
01:16:54,239 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 2: Is it the Golden ball story?

1694
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,399
Speaker 1: This is a couple who have a daughter that being

1695
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:05,520
harassed at school by what they from what I and

1696
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,359
I'm just going I didn't want to look too much

1697
01:17:08,399 --> 01:17:10,039
into this because I even.

1698
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 3: Want to tell them. I want to play.

1699
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate a little bit here or ask them some

1700
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:19,760
of the tougher questions. But apparently they're getting threats at

1701
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:24,920
their house from these boys and they are doxing them

1702
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,399
and everything and doxing where you put out their information. Yeah,

1703
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:32,199
so I just boy, this is a disturbing thing.

1704
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 3: And what can you do?

1705
01:17:35,359 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 1: And why has the school not done stuff? And they've

1706
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,359
certainly been in communication with the school. So we'll see

1707
01:17:40,359 --> 01:17:43,880
if we can at least hear the story. It may

1708
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,479
be relatable for a lot of people, and bullying is

1709
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just so different in twenty twenty four. Yeah, you know,

1710
01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:51,079
you just can't get away from them stops. So we

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is this project pile up around your house? You don't

1742
01:19:36,039 --> 01:19:37,439
have time to get to them. And let me be

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01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,960
get honest, you probably don't have the skills either. I mean,

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in your finished basement?

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Speaker 3: Done?

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Speaker 3: It's Mac of all Trades. Wow. Meddle, Southside, oh Chicago

1760
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down there, you're better. Don't be well manly, roll around.

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Speaker 15: Raw An in trouble, standing about six four four auto.

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Speaker 3: Downtown, trying to figure of a song about a bullet.

1764
01:20:50,159 --> 01:20:52,479
Were you bullied as a kid, I don't know about it.

1765
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,560
Speaker 2: Is bullied picked on occasionally, they're not bullied. I mean,

1766
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:56,840
like nothing like that.

1767
01:20:57,079 --> 01:20:59,520
Speaker 1: When I was uh, I went to a really small school,

1768
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,880
so it was great seven through twelve, and I used to.

1769
01:21:03,079 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 3: Love, love to roast the older guys.

1770
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I just was fucking relentless, and they they

1771
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:11,359
turned me up to They tried to give me a

1772
01:21:11,399 --> 01:21:16,960
swirling and I grabbed onto the panel in between stalls

1773
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,239
and I would not let go and they couldn't get

1774
01:21:19,239 --> 01:21:20,840
my hands off, so they left me, and I was

1775
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,920
upside down all the time. That was probably about the

1776
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:28,039
worst that got. But then we hear about the you know,

1777
01:21:28,119 --> 01:21:31,399
the bullying. And I had my older sons who are

1778
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,560
in their early twenties. Now certainly there was things with

1779
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:38,319
Snapchat and stuff in the probably around twenty twelve that

1780
01:21:38,359 --> 01:21:40,560
has happened. And then I have a fourteen year old son,

1781
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,640
and so I see a lot of the stuff. I

1782
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,760
hear a lot of this stuff the problem that I think,

1783
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,319
and I don't know how parents. I don't know what

1784
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:51,640
the right way to handle any of this stuff is.

1785
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,760
But it doesn't go away. You used to go home,

1786
01:21:54,039 --> 01:21:55,920
you could shut your door, and I was like, whew,

1787
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,399
all I have to worry about is you know, mom

1788
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,000
yelling at my room isn't cleaned up, or maybe my

1789
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:03,680
brother's stealing something from me.

1790
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,039
Speaker 3: Ye, that kind of stuff. But you got to break, right,

1791
01:22:07,079 --> 01:22:07,800
You got to break.

1792
01:22:08,159 --> 01:22:11,560
Speaker 1: And now it's like it's NonStop, it's it's it can

1793
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:18,680
become relentless, I would assume, And I think, like, how

1794
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,399
do you end it right? You can take your kid's

1795
01:22:20,399 --> 01:22:22,239
phone away so they don't see it, but that doesn't

1796
01:22:22,279 --> 01:22:24,600
mean it doesn't stop and while other kids are seeing it.

1797
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,079
And that's where I always go. The only thing I

1798
01:22:27,079 --> 01:22:29,760
can think to do is try to build your kids

1799
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:34,199
self esteem and get them to really believe in themselves.

1800
01:22:34,199 --> 01:22:36,840
And I always think, like real self esteem and saying hey,

1801
01:22:37,079 --> 01:22:41,079
you're the best. It's when they get a good grade. Man,

1802
01:22:41,159 --> 01:22:42,880
I knew you could do it, and you know that

1803
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,119
success builds upon success.

1804
01:22:45,399 --> 01:22:46,159
Speaker 3: Coaches you steal.

1805
01:22:46,399 --> 01:22:49,279
Speaker 1: Coach would yell at when you won and be a

1806
01:22:49,279 --> 01:22:51,920
little softer on when we lost. And it was always

1807
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:53,479
something that stuck with me and I go, yeah, because

1808
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,039
you can push people further. That's the only thing I

1809
01:22:56,079 --> 01:22:59,600
can think to shield against this. But I mean, when

1810
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,119
it's just NonStop, I don't know what the hell you do.

1811
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 3: Uh.

1812
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: The reason I'm bringing this up is I got a

1813
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,720
message today from a gentleman named Sean Sick, and I

1814
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,680
believe I'm sure I'll be corrected in the moment if

1815
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:12,079
I'm wrong.

1816
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 2: Uh.

1817
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: His wife's name is Jen and they have an unbelievable

1818
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,520
story and a ton of their friends are supporting them

1819
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,960
and watching the podcast on our Facebook pages and and

1820
01:23:23,159 --> 01:23:26,199
YouTube as well, and I will bring them on.

1821
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 3: There they are. And and is that your your daughter

1822
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,920
as well? Hang on one second, I got to get

1823
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:35,319
rid of the.

1824
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:37,239
Speaker 6: The disco music, the dance music, club the club music,

1825
01:23:37,279 --> 01:23:38,439
the club music in the background.

1826
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,560
Speaker 3: Wasn't the clubs? And spencer Port, Yeah, you don't know

1827
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,479
about the night life in spencer Bud right on the canal.

1828
01:23:46,159 --> 01:23:47,039
It's amazing.

1829
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 1: Your money's always accepted it park, it's right. And look,

1830
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,399
Jimmy Z's is closed down. They should turn that space.

1831
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,319
Yeah right, Well that's Brockport and I.

1832
01:23:56,239 --> 01:23:59,039
Speaker 2: Spend Yeah, that's a port. Right.

1833
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm glad your daughter's there as well. How how may

1834
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:04,800
I ask how old she is?

1835
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 3: How old are you?

1836
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,199
Speaker 9: This is Leah, She's thirteen, She's thirteen.

1837
01:24:09,319 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 3: Is she the person we're talking about?

1838
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:12,079
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1839
01:24:12,239 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 3: Okay, so Leah's thirteen? And does that make Leah in

1840
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:15,640
eighth grade?

1841
01:24:16,279 --> 01:24:19,319
Speaker 13: Yes? Okay, those are And my name is Kim by the.

1842
01:24:19,319 --> 01:24:24,359
Speaker 1: Way, Kim, I'm sorry. I don't know why I thought Jen. Yeah,

1843
01:24:24,399 --> 01:24:26,840
but you know, I don't know that I'm gonna blame Sean.

1844
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,479
I'm gonna blame I'm going to blame mister Sick here.

1845
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:33,640
And what a great name, mister Sick. That's awesome, But

1846
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,600
I would blame him because I he said to me

1847
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,279
at one point, I have to check with my wife

1848
01:24:38,319 --> 01:24:41,279
to see if you know schedules and things like that. Right,

1849
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,520
that's usually when I was married that I didn't know

1850
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,279
the schedule. Ever, maybe that's why I'm not still married.

1851
01:24:47,359 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1852
01:24:48,039 --> 01:24:51,199
Speaker 1: But either way, but tell me kind of what what

1853
01:24:51,239 --> 01:24:54,199
was happening or what's been going on? Because this the

1854
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:56,560
and I don't want to say it. Forgive me for

1855
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,640
the lack of vocabulary, but the story and it's not

1856
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:03,119
really story, the truth that you're telling or your version

1857
01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:07,399
of what's happening is uh, boy, that's disturbing Sean. What

1858
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:11,039
Sean wrote? So, who wants to who wants to start there?

1859
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:19,199
Speaker 13: Kim So Lee is in eighth grade and she's been,

1860
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,039
you know, bullied a little bit here and there since

1861
01:25:22,039 --> 01:25:25,359
the beginning of the school year, first by some girls,

1862
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:29,760
and now it kind of progressed into boys, a couple

1863
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,239
in particular. We're just relentless every day bullying her, picking

1864
01:25:33,279 --> 01:25:34,920
on her, seeking her out.

1865
01:25:36,239 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: Can I ask Leah a question? I'm assuming have you

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you're not new to the district.

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Speaker 3: Are you?

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Speaker 13: No?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 3: So are these kids you you knew all your life? Yeah?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, sounds like sixth grade.

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Speaker 3: Since sixth grade? And were they problems in sixth and

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seventh grade?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Oh they were. So now it's just it's just progressed

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that dramas and beat a little harder. Okay, gotcha right.

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Speaker 13: So on Friday the twenty second, I get a phone

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call from Leah. I was actually at ub with on

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a college tour with my older daughter and my husband

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was at work, and she called us at the end

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of the day and said, Mom, I just got jumped

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by six boys, but I don't want to get in

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trouble because I hit back. I was like, what we

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went back up?

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Speaker 14: What?

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Speaker 13: And she said, yeah, six boys were waiting by my

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locker and when I came by, they all bum rushed

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me and jumped me.

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Speaker 3: Leah what, Yes, Can I ask her questions to or

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do you not want her to talk about that? Yeah?

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Speaker 13: Please?

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Speaker 3: So Leo jumped That sounds to me like they tackled

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you and grabbed you and threw you to the ground.

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I don't know.

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Speaker 13: Then didn't like throw me to the ground.

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Speaker 16: They just like slammed me and like put like kind

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of like put their hands on me.

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Speaker 13: Like it all happened like so fast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like they saw the video.

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Speaker 13: It happens to me so fast. So it was caught

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on camera from the hallway footage. Thank god.

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Speaker 3: Does spencer Port have a rule?

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Speaker 1: I remember this from my kids, you couldn't throw hands,

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because I did go in and see video in Pittsford

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when my kids were there and my son said that

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I swear to god, I didn't punch him. So I

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went in and saw the video and I well, he

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didn't punch him. But I think the rule was no

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hands and it was a suspension for five days when

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that stuff happens. This is a long time ago. So

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is that the same thing in Spencer Port?

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Speaker 13: Well, yeah, they put hands on her.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, three of the six.

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Speaker 13: Three of the six, but it was six.

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Speaker 3: Boys, Okay, which is intimidating. I mean that that that

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right there alone is intimidating Mary. Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Yes, So she was obviously very upset, and I, like

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I said, I was somewhere. He was at work, and

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we were calling, calling the school. Nobody's answering, nobody's calling us.

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I'm freaking out, like what's going on? She got home safe,

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and then you know what happened then, like, did somebody

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finally call you? Yes, somebody finally called him and told them. Okay,

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you know we know what happened. It's on the camera.

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So we're gonna investigate this. Okay, can we see the

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video please. This was on a Friday. Yeah, yeah, sure,

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Monday comes along. Actually, So that night that Friday, we

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started getting prank phone calls all night.

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Speaker 3: Prank phone calls to your house. Do you have a

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home phone?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 13: It started with Sean and Leah's phone.

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Speaker 3: How did they get your number, Sean?

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So they somebody that it's called doc. When they go right,

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and they can find it. It's only doction when they

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put it out there, when I say out there on

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the internet or something. So they found your phone and

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they're calling you all night, all night hold off?

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Speaker 3: That was on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like why what's THEA?

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Speaker 9: And this was just one night.

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Speaker 1: This was Let me pause for just a second. I

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sometimes because we're not on government air, this is a podcast, right,

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so sometimes the language can be a little course and

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I if I drop something is that, I don't want

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to do it in front of your daughter. If that's

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not how you speak.

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Speaker 9: It's she's she's heard it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I bet those podcast kids said something when they

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were doing this, right, Leah. They didn't use friendly language

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at all. That's right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So they're calling you all night. You don't know

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how they they got the number. At that point, I

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would assume that's harassment. Couldn't you file a police report?

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Speaker 9: I had reached out to a few different people.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I guess I was just hoping that it would go away.

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Speaker 1: Sure, you don't want to well, you don't want to

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make it like a mountain out of a mole hill

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or be like you know, I get it. I would

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probably have done the same thing. Do you know any

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of the families of these kids?

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Speaker 13: We know, I don't really want to say.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, just because it's.

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Speaker 13: Still ongoing with the so let me back up. We

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had to file what's called a DACER report at the school,

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right Dignity for all Students Act. Anytime there's bullying or

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intimidation or anything like that, this report has to be

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filed at the school and then they have to investigate it.

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So after seeing the footage, the school gave the boys

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three days of suspension. So they had, yeah, Monday and

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Tuesday day off and then Wednesday, Thursday. Friday was Thanksgiving,

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so they had those days off anyway, and then the

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weekend and then the next Monday. So those that was

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their suspension, that was their punishment.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so they probably ast.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, the Gassla report is still being investigated and worked on.

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They have since returned to school. They came back to

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school on Tuesday. So in the meantime, Leah has to

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be escorted all around the school. Okay, she always has

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to have someone watching her. You know, she's she didn't

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want to go to school at first, but then she said,

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screw that. I'm going to school. It's my school, not

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going to be scared. So we're still investigating. So the phone,

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the phone situation got really bad. We're talking about like

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very vile sexual threats, disgusting, disgusting things were being said.

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One kid threatened to throw a pipe bomb at our house.

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And this is all being recorded, all of it, every time.

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Speaker 3: Are these boy I have a lot of questions.

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Speaker 13: I bet you do.

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of questions, but you can't.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I got to be careful where I

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step in some area because boy, teachers have a really

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really tough job because you're trying to then teach around this, right,

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and you've got a kid who's so distracted because something's

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happening in the hallway or the anticipation of that, and

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then you've got to get their test scores up by

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ten points and you've got fifteen to thirty kids in

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the classroom, I would assume, and it's like, holy god,

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it just sounds awful, And what's going on with somebody

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just texted in? Because we can see all the messages.

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The most they will do in the high school is

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have them sign a no contact contact contract tract. Well,

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she wrote contact, the type of contract and put them

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in academy where they're still in the same building. As

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if a piece of paper is enough to discipline. You

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know what that sounds like. It sounds like when I

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go and say, I want what is it? What's the

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piece of paper that we say everybody violates all the time?

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Speaker 3: Order of protection?

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Speaker 1: It sounds like an order of protection which means nothing

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a lot of times. Right, Okay, So I'm sorry to

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interrupt your story. So the harassment, the pipe bomb through

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the window, they sound like really really great future terrorists.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, especially with one of them. When he said that,

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he pulled up a picture of my wife and her

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age and her phone number and then scrolled down to

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our address.

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Speaker 13: And so just also, this is all the FaceTime group calls.

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So that's how we can, like when you screen share

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on those FaceTime group calls, you can you know, show

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whatever you want on the screen. So these boys, half

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of them would have their cameras on. There were girls

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in there laughing along like it was funny. And then

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you know, every phone number we could see.

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Speaker 3: What about her friends. Are any of her friends trying

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to stick up for her anyway?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, But they weren't included in any of these.

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They didn't know this was going on all weekend. For

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some reason, they went from his phone to my phone.

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So they just started relentlessly calling, calling, calling, and we

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would just recorded every time and they would just say

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just they didn't care.

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Speaker 9: Every fifteen to thirty seconds, we were getting the call,

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the FaceTime calls to the point where we called Grease police.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and okay, somebody somebody just text it in.

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Speaker 1: Let me see here, because I just want to thank

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sure I have it. Somebody texted in saying ask her

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what they said they would do to her?

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Speaker 9: Mom?

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Speaker 3: Is this?

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Speaker 1: Well, somebody just texted this in, So I don't know

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and how a policeman was there and they still did it?

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Speaker 9: What does it?

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Speaker 3: What does that mean?

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Speaker 9: So we had called the police because at this point

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it was like day number two or three.

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Speaker 3: So is this a Monroe County Sheriff's department that comes

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out or do you have your own police in Spenceport on?

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Speaker 9: So we well, our daughter goes to Spencerport, but were

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technically in the in Greece. Okay, So we had Greece

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come out, the Greece police, and while they were taking

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you know, our statement. Kim's phone is just constantly going off,

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to the point where the police officer was like, give

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me that phone, and he got right onto the camera

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and was like, hey boys. They hung up and fifteen

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seconds later they're calling again. They don't care.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, they're laughing.

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Speaker 3: Right, because there's nothing that can really be done. So

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why your daughter, and I asked that, and to play

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devil's advocate a little bit, has she done anything to

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encourage this stuff?

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Speaker 1: Or I know, I know you get this kind of

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question would infuriate, right, But I'm just saying that people.

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People got to think something like, hey, hang on a second,

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your daughter can't be innocent in all this.

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Speaker 13: But but you're right, oh, you're right. Honestly, it's not

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just her, like it's definitely you know, they are at

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least to everybody, even people in the community. They go

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on the community and mess with people at tops or

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the churches or whatever.

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Speaker 3: You know what it is.

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Speaker 1: You know what this is where to god, it's the

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fucking shit Internet. All the time they're watching this stuff NonStop.

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It is consumed twenty four fucking seven of these kids

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don't sleep a proper amount anymore. These the fucking phone.

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I have excuse me, I'm sorry, but I have a

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fourteen year old son, and I see this stuff and

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we wonder what people want to go.

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Speaker 3: Oh, the attention SPAN's gotten.

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Speaker 1: Soci no shit, it's gotten short, right, you know the

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guys who invented this. I always say something that an

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uncle of mine said, the world has been designed by

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geniuses to be run by idiots. And it's idiots that right,

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they figure this out. And what's the good of the

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communication if it's just gonna be? But these are I'm

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thinking thirteen twelve to fourteen year old boys, which I

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mean it's Lord of the Fly.

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Speaker 6: I guess my question is the parents, like, where are

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they're I mean, I'm not blaming the parents, I'm saying

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where are they Have they responded?

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Speaker 2: Have they said anything?

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Speaker 3: Because I guess here's the other side.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming too much.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think you're assuming too much. I'm sure

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that's a question that many many people have. But on

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the other side, you go, maybe forgive me, maybe one

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of the kids is broken home and one parent and

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01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:14,359
they're working all the time to try to keep food lights,

2101
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,800
all this shit going on, and the kid just gets

2102
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:17,640
to do whatever they want.

2103
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,520
Speaker 3: They're like feral are feral kids that.

2104
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:24,560
Speaker 1: Get to and it's not any real fault of anybody, right,

2105
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:26,000
but you want to get this under control.

2106
01:38:26,199 --> 01:38:28,680
Speaker 3: What happened to just being nice?

2107
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:31,560
Speaker 1: Because I got to think somewhere along the line, somebody's

2108
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:35,560
going to do this back at some point, I would hope.

2109
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:40,399
Speaker 13: I don't know, so we're not exactly sure, like I mean,

2110
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:42,479
like I said, it started with a girl in the

2111
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:44,800
beginning of the year bullying her, and then these boys

2112
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:47,600
just kind of took over. And we don't know she's

2113
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:50,600
she's a sweet girl. She likes to go to school,

2114
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:55,239
play her sports, she doesn't bother anybody. I haven't heard

2115
01:38:55,239 --> 01:38:58,319
any differently from anybody, like I don't. We don't know

2116
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:01,680
why it was her, But what we're afraid of is

2117
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,520
now it's going to be somebody else, and we're actually

2118
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:07,279
getting messages that they're pressing other people.

2119
01:39:07,319 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 3: Now, okay, so all right, let's let's let's go with this.

2120
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 1: I get there's messages coming in on all our social

2121
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:17,560
media platforms that we're on right now. They are a

2122
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:20,880
group of boys that have parents that don't care and

2123
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:25,680
are known by the Ogden Police Department. Yes, okay, somebody

2124
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:27,159
else says it is parenting.

2125
01:39:27,199 --> 01:39:31,079
Speaker 3: Where are the parents? Uh? What about the elderly in town? Like,

2126
01:39:31,159 --> 01:39:32,439
what the fuck is wrong with them?

2127
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:34,079
Speaker 2: What is that they building the elderly?

2128
01:39:34,119 --> 01:39:35,600
Speaker 6: Because I've heard a story about something like that in

2129
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:38,399
Churchville lately, or like with the traffic on a Sunday

2130
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:41,079
Sport that.

2131
01:39:41,119 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 3: Was spencer Port with the bikes riding around? Is this

2132
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:46,760
those kids?

2133
01:39:47,119 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 13: Yes?

2134
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:51,039
Speaker 3: Holy shit, I did. I was thinking about that myself

2135
01:39:51,079 --> 01:39:53,119
because I go, I have some reason I thought I

2136
01:39:53,159 --> 01:39:53,600
was Churchville.

2137
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,319
Speaker 2: I don't know why. No, Yeah, spencer Port.

2138
01:39:56,199 --> 01:39:58,359
Speaker 3: Well, because it's more of a church fill behavior. Spencer

2139
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:01,840
Port's like it's a little town. No, seriously, it's very

2140
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:02,560
east side.

2141
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,159
Speaker 1: I love Spencer Report like that would be the only

2142
01:40:05,159 --> 01:40:06,199
west side town I'd live in.

2143
01:40:06,319 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm serious, I'm not kidding. It's it's beautiful. It's

2144
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:11,760
so nice along the can and stuff.

2145
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:17,640
Speaker 13: That's why we wanted to live. Yes, and I will

2146
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,960
say my daughter is a senior this year, and she's

2147
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:27,680
had a great experience through the years. You know, great athletic.

2148
01:40:28,039 --> 01:40:31,279
Speaker 3: Did you did you know the Laeduca's out there, the

2149
01:40:31,359 --> 01:40:34,439
Laduca family, Greg, Yes.

2150
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:34,600
Speaker 9: Yes, very well.

2151
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:37,119
Speaker 13: She was my she was Leah's preschool teacher.

2152
01:40:37,239 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 1: Okay, so Greg and I went to Saint John Fisher together.

2153
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:42,039
I could tell you some real stories about Greg.

2154
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:46,039
Speaker 3: No, but all his sons. Right. There were big baseball

2155
01:40:46,039 --> 01:40:48,239
players there, and he talked about.

2156
01:40:48,319 --> 01:40:52,079
Speaker 1: The district, how great it was, and I we had

2157
01:40:52,119 --> 01:40:54,760
considered Spencer report, uh at some point.

2158
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:55,159
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2159
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:59,680
Speaker 1: So it's disturbing to hear this, and it's more disturbing that,

2160
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:03,119
like there, these kids are just blatant, man, They're just

2161
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:07,720
it's school it there's no boundaries. There's no boundaries with them.

2162
01:41:08,079 --> 01:41:14,079
Speaker 9: It's because they know that nobody's gonna do anything to them.

2163
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:18,439
We had one kid tell us, uh, you can post

2164
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:20,920
all you want on Facebook. That's not going to stop

2165
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:22,840
our reign of terror.

2166
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:32,239
Speaker 1: Somebody, somebody just message saying that someone someone's saying this

2167
01:41:32,319 --> 01:41:36,479
is one side of the story. So okay, I don't know.

2168
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:40,279
Somebody else said that there was a post and discussion

2169
01:41:40,399 --> 01:41:45,079
that someone who's in media had and they made it

2170
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:50,159
believe this was against a transgender student and they just

2171
01:41:50,239 --> 01:41:54,399
wrote this, she doesn't appear transgender, not that it would

2172
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:57,079
make it okay, trying to figure out what she might

2173
01:41:57,119 --> 01:42:00,840
have done or said for this harsh reaction again, not

2174
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:01,840
that it makes it okay.

2175
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 3: Uh.

2176
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:05,600
Speaker 1: Then they said are they minority students? Did they say

2177
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:09,760
something that came across as races to one initial girl

2178
01:42:10,079 --> 01:42:13,520
and she rounded up her posse. That is what my

2179
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:15,960
gut is telling me. This is a text that somebody

2180
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:19,840
wrote in. I don't know what you say to that stuff.

2181
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:24,800
It sounds to me like we all saw the story

2182
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:28,399
in the news. You saw it, Danny h Car and

2183
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:31,800
some guy didn't somebody pull up in a truck. Yeah,

2184
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:35,319
the kids left laughing, and like the lady was.

2185
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:40,279
Speaker 6: Somebody went to help her, the old elderly lady, and

2186
01:42:40,319 --> 01:42:42,920
then they were bullying the person that went to help.

2187
01:42:44,119 --> 01:42:49,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody says, the kids need to be permanently expelled. Kim,

2188
01:42:49,119 --> 01:42:51,039
are you on here? I just saw Kim from Yes.

2189
01:42:51,279 --> 01:42:52,640
Kim answered yes to something.

2190
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 3: I see it.

2191
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 1: I see it over here, and my thing, I see

2192
01:42:56,199 --> 01:42:58,479
Kim sick. That's a great last name, by the way,

2193
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:03,840
I mean that is sick. So what happens? Where do

2194
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:08,000
we go from here? What is the school doing other

2195
01:43:08,079 --> 01:43:12,640
than the three day suspension? Intimidation in the hallway Sometimes

2196
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:16,000
they can offer schedules, so your kid isn't like even

2197
01:43:16,039 --> 01:43:18,359
in the hallway at the same time, different lunches, I

2198
01:43:18,359 --> 01:43:18,720
don't know.

2199
01:43:19,399 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 13: So they changed some schedules around so they weren't in

2200
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:30,279
any classes with her, and unfortunately she did on the

2201
01:43:30,279 --> 01:43:32,439
first day back when they came back, she did see

2202
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:34,479
them in the hallway and had a little pang attack

2203
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:39,079
because they were high fiving and laughing. And then the

2204
01:43:39,119 --> 01:43:42,600
first day back they also one of them said let's

2205
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:47,319
start some rumors about Leah, so that was reported, and

2206
01:43:47,359 --> 01:43:52,239
then she's she has like a shadow, somebody her counselor

2207
01:43:52,359 --> 01:43:55,159
or somebody in age following her around all day, which

2208
01:43:55,199 --> 01:43:57,359
she doesn't like, Like she doesn't want to feel.

2209
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 3: No, you look, you're you're singled out, you know.

2210
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 13: Yeah, right, But until this DASA investigation is done, they

2211
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:09,119
are allowed to be there, and they are allowed to

2212
01:44:09,119 --> 01:44:11,399
go to class, and they're allowed to play sports and

2213
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:13,199
be on athletic teams.

2214
01:44:13,279 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 1: Right now, somebody says, somebody wrote in classic victim blaming, unreal.

2215
01:44:18,239 --> 01:44:25,039
Speaker 3: What do you think they're referring to? Somebody's asking, yeah, right,

2216
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:28,560
Like I know I brought it up, but I do

2217
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:30,680
that because I do think there's a portion of the

2218
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:31,960
audience that's thinking.

2219
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,239
Speaker 6: Well, well, there's always somebody who's going to think about Okay,

2220
01:44:34,399 --> 01:44:37,680
there's two sides, three sides to every story, like they said,

2221
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:39,079
And I understand that's a natural thought.

2222
01:44:39,119 --> 01:44:41,560
Speaker 3: Prob Have you talked to the counselors at the school

2223
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:42,479
sometimes the.

2224
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 13: Count know, well, I mean she she has a counselor

2225
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:51,720
that she has. We're very well familiar with him. We

2226
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:53,680
talked to him a lot because she's in the counselor

2227
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:57,680
in office a lot. She does have anxiety and depression.

2228
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:00,319
You know, she does deal with that already. She cries

2229
01:45:00,319 --> 01:45:03,079
a lot at school, which is I think another reason

2230
01:45:03,119 --> 01:45:05,880
why these boys target her. Because she's an easy target,

2231
01:45:06,039 --> 01:45:07,159
She's an easy victim.

2232
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:12,159
Speaker 1: Why does she she cries a lot at school because

2233
01:45:12,159 --> 01:45:13,640
of them?

2234
01:45:14,119 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 13: Them? And because she just has anxiety.

2235
01:45:17,399 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 3: A lot of times? All right?

2236
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:22,359
Speaker 13: You know she's she's struggling with her grades right now

2237
01:45:22,399 --> 01:45:23,359
and it's hard on her.

2238
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:28,159
Speaker 1: And do they I'm going to keep cutting you off,

2239
01:45:28,199 --> 01:45:28,880
which is terrible.

2240
01:45:30,039 --> 01:45:33,079
Speaker 3: This is a podcast, it's not real, real entertainment.

2241
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:38,520
Speaker 1: Uh, maybe this is why these kids are after even

2242
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:42,560
after being suspended, continued to rassle. They attacked because they

2243
01:45:43,319 --> 01:45:46,640
thought she was gay. They made racist comments, mock special

2244
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:48,880
needs kids. Did they think your daughter was gay.

2245
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:58,640
Speaker 13: That was that was something that the girl bully started that. Okay,

2246
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:04,640
okay started that going around school, and then that was

2247
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:07,279
a whole other thing. Leah got in trouble for confronting

2248
01:46:07,319 --> 01:46:09,880
her because she wanted to know why she started that rumor.

2249
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:14,520
So Lea got talked to for confronting this girl about

2250
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:15,319
bullying her.

2251
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 1: Now, I really thought, because I will tell you, like,

2252
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,680
I'm an old guy. I graduated high school back in

2253
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:24,520
the eighties.

2254
01:46:25,119 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 3: That's how old I am. And the nineteen eighties it.

2255
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:32,119
Speaker 1: Was the last year of the eighties. But my point

2256
01:46:32,159 --> 01:46:36,039
is back then the worst thing I'll be really raw

2257
01:46:36,079 --> 01:46:40,520
with you. I was molested as a child by a babysitter,

2258
01:46:41,039 --> 01:46:43,159
and I kept it the biggest secret in the world.

2259
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:47,600
But I so I stayed away from girls in high

2260
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,439
school and stuff because I thought they would be able

2261
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:53,880
to tell that I had done gay things. I was seven,

2262
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:56,319
but I had done gay things. So the worst thing

2263
01:46:56,479 --> 01:47:00,000
I could be was gay, I thought. In twenty two,

2264
01:47:00,039 --> 01:47:01,000
twenty four.

2265
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 3: It was.

2266
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:08,760
Speaker 1: That we were a little more I don't know, accepting,

2267
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:12,760
you know, I mean, I we see things about transgender

2268
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:13,760
we just I.

2269
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 2: Just is it adults that are more accepting the kids

2270
01:47:16,199 --> 01:47:16,840
never have never.

2271
01:47:17,159 --> 01:47:19,720
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, man, I really agree with that.

2272
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:22,560
What that the adults are more accepting and the kids

2273
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:22,800
are not.

2274
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the kids have always been a holes.

2275
01:47:25,119 --> 01:47:25,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

2276
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 2: I've always said this, like your kid isn't like I

2277
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:30,800
have to be careful because I don't have kids. Okay,

2278
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:32,720
I don't have kids. I got my own problems.

2279
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:33,960
Speaker 3: Thank god.

2280
01:47:34,279 --> 01:47:35,159
Speaker 2: I've had two marriages.

2281
01:47:35,199 --> 01:47:37,159
Speaker 3: Okay, that kid would have bullied you.

2282
01:47:37,279 --> 01:47:39,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I've had an next wife bullied me too.

2283
01:47:39,399 --> 01:47:41,159
I know what it's like. My carl wife bullies me.

2284
01:47:42,079 --> 01:47:43,840
My wife I should say, I should say current wife.

2285
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,520
Speaker 6: But the thing is is like my wife's a teacher,

2286
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:48,479
so she deals with this kind of stuff from students

2287
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:49,000
like that.

2288
01:47:49,359 --> 01:47:51,199
Speaker 2: They're all the same. Kids don't know anything.

2289
01:47:51,239 --> 01:47:53,600
Speaker 6: They just they will They're like water, right, they will

2290
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:55,840
get away with as much as you let them get

2291
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:57,600
away with, and they're never going to change. They're always

2292
01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:00,920
going to be, you know, jackwagons or what. There's gonna

2293
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:03,079
be your good kids and your bad kids. Your bad

2294
01:48:03,159 --> 01:48:04,479
kids just seem to get worse.

2295
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 2: That's all.

2296
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:07,720
Speaker 6: Your good kids are good, yeah, but you don't really

2297
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:08,840
get much better than good.

2298
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:12,560
Speaker 1: But here's I just thought the kids overall were just

2299
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:17,399
a little more tolerant. And I really thought that high

2300
01:48:17,399 --> 01:48:20,520
school now, I thought that even in when my guys

2301
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:24,279
were grown up, like they were more accepting of gay

2302
01:48:24,399 --> 01:48:25,479
and different and all that.

2303
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 6: The boy parents, you guys were you and your wife

2304
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:31,479
at the time, were more like educational with your kids.

2305
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but even the school itself, like they were just

2306
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:37,479
more accepting and there was no and the bullying that

2307
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:41,319
was he liked a girl and somebody recorded it him

2308
01:48:41,359 --> 01:48:44,439
talking to a friend not knowing he's being recorded, naming

2309
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:45,039
the girl, and.

2310
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:46,359
Speaker 3: Then they put it out on Snapchat.

2311
01:48:46,399 --> 01:48:50,159
Speaker 1: Well that would crush it, right, because all right, but

2312
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:54,520
it's really not all that. I'll get in trouble for

2313
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,720
saying this from family members, but it's not all that much.

2314
01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:00,239
It's not bullying where I'm throwing you again. It's the

2315
01:49:00,279 --> 01:49:03,399
locker and making you afraid to walk the hallway. It's

2316
01:49:04,279 --> 01:49:05,079
it's kind of like.

2317
01:49:05,359 --> 01:49:10,239
Speaker 3: You know, hey, daddy likes kid. You know I mean

2318
01:49:10,279 --> 01:49:15,680
that that that's sort of what it is. That one.

2319
01:49:16,319 --> 01:49:19,560
But this I'm I'm surprised to hear that about the gate.

2320
01:49:20,199 --> 01:49:22,520
Speaker 1: More texts coming in ask if they are confident the

2321
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:25,000
same boys and the first and in we did that one.

2322
01:49:25,279 --> 01:49:27,479
Why would the parents say anything when these people are

2323
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:32,640
blasting social media and blasting misinformation, meaning you guys, okay,

2324
01:49:33,159 --> 01:49:35,279
one side of the story. Not the same boys who

2325
01:49:35,319 --> 01:49:40,000
made the calls. She almost hit the kid first. So

2326
01:49:40,079 --> 01:49:43,159
this is someone who's familiar that's texting the school.

2327
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 9: It's on video. They have the boys on one side

2328
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:51,359
of the hall, right in a line, laughing and waiting.

2329
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:55,720
She comes up the hall, They surround her, They run

2330
01:49:56,079 --> 01:49:59,880
at her, surround her body, slammer thrower into the lockers.

2331
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:01,560
Speaker 3: The school was watching.

2332
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:03,399
Speaker 9: He immediately got up and started swinging.

2333
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the school was watching the boys and her. They

2334
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:10,039
haven't done anything more. It sounds like almost a parent

2335
01:50:10,079 --> 01:50:13,119
of one of the boys. The boys did. The boys

2336
01:50:13,159 --> 01:50:17,800
did something wrong, they got a consequence, and they are

2337
01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:19,880
remorseful and try to apologize.

2338
01:50:22,119 --> 01:50:25,159
Speaker 9: I would accept that apology, but I know three of them,

2339
01:50:25,199 --> 01:50:29,600
at least or four. This is multiple times that they've

2340
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:30,640
been in trouble.

2341
01:50:30,319 --> 01:50:31,119
Speaker 3: For this, Okay.

2342
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:35,319
Speaker 9: I have had over a dozen parents reach out to

2343
01:50:35,359 --> 01:50:39,880
me and without us naming any names, named the boys that.

2344
01:50:40,159 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, identifying them, just knowing, without knowing, saying are these guys, yeah,

2345
01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:47,960
the boys that were part of Okay, so let's see

2346
01:50:48,319 --> 01:50:50,600
and try to apologize. The boys that were part of

2347
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:54,119
the first incident are not the same boys that threaten them.

2348
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:59,800
The family just the family just wants attention, attention. Okay,

2349
01:51:00,079 --> 01:51:01,920
sure you want this kind of attentions.

2350
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 3: Really, this is not.

2351
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 1: I think there might be other ways to do to

2352
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,680
get attention. I'm I'm as sure that this isn't it.

2353
01:51:10,159 --> 01:51:13,680
Speaker 9: And the boys that were part of the incident at school,

2354
01:51:14,079 --> 01:51:17,800
I have them on camera with the whole face time.

2355
01:51:18,039 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 13: Yeah, they were on the phone calls. They just didn't

2356
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:24,319
do the threat.

2357
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:27,039
Speaker 1: They talk about the laws, talk about the laws in

2358
01:51:27,079 --> 01:51:29,439
New York State. What are the laws juvenile laws, this

2359
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:31,800
person says. And then they also tell your daughter to

2360
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:32,479
kill herself.

2361
01:51:33,079 --> 01:51:36,039
Speaker 13: Yeah, yes they did. And me and you, yeah, they

2362
01:51:36,039 --> 01:51:37,600
told me to kill myself. Yeah.

2363
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:41,359
Speaker 9: And that goes back to the whole like the gay thing.

2364
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:45,479
You know, So now they you know, like you said,

2365
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:50,680
it's twenty twenty four. I don't care if you're straight, gay,

2366
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:56,079
bye whatever. She's thirteen, she's thirteen.

2367
01:51:56,159 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 13: She doesn't know.

2368
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:01,760
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying. Look, I don't hear.

2369
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:07,239
Speaker 1: If the kid says your transgender, I'm okay. In my

2370
01:52:07,359 --> 01:52:10,520
head my first instinct, you don't really know. Well, I'm

2371
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:12,399
not going to argue with you. Be whatever you want.

2372
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 3: I'm fine.

2373
01:52:14,359 --> 01:52:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody said, I called the counselor the same day

2374
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:21,000
it happened. This is a Katie. Do you know Katie

2375
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:25,239
Katie with a C, not a K. No, I would

2376
01:52:25,239 --> 01:52:26,479
say her last name, but I don't want to get

2377
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:28,760
anybody in trouble. I called the counselor of the same

2378
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:31,239
day it happened. Also called the assistant principle. I heard

2379
01:52:31,239 --> 01:52:34,760
back from the assistant principle today, who knew nothing about

2380
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:38,199
the incident. They are also reviewing cameras because Ze and

2381
01:52:38,279 --> 01:52:41,359
her friends purposely ran into my daughter and her friend

2382
01:52:41,399 --> 01:52:41,840
in the hall.

2383
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:48,119
Speaker 13: Okay, so they're talking about a different person, not one

2384
01:52:48,119 --> 01:52:52,319
of the boys. But yeah, yeah, that's I have a

2385
01:52:52,319 --> 01:52:53,760
feeling I know what they're talking about.

2386
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,279
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so there's another incident. So there's been

2387
01:52:56,319 --> 01:52:59,560
a number of incidents. Uh, this is not Leah's fault.

2388
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:01,119
She's been targeted by others.

2389
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:02,199
Speaker 3: Uh.

2390
01:53:02,279 --> 01:53:08,159
Speaker 1: Somebody writes, irregardless, regardless, it's not a reason for boys

2391
01:53:08,159 --> 01:53:09,439
to physically sell a fil.

2392
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:12,119
Speaker 3: That's the part that I Yeah, I don't care for that.

2393
01:53:12,319 --> 01:53:15,119
I'm sorry, Like I thought, maybe I sounded a little

2394
01:53:15,119 --> 01:53:17,840
misogynistic in old school, but what are you doing to

2395
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:22,840
a girl? The girls?

2396
01:53:24,079 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 13: Girl is tiny? She's tiny and six boys coming at

2397
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:31,359
her athletes.

2398
01:53:31,039 --> 01:53:35,359
Speaker 9: Are much taller than her. Yeah, who comes up with that?

2399
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 3: Uh?

2400
01:53:37,039 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 1: That is a different ince in that Katie is talking about.

2401
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:42,319
So somebody, Okay, so with all this stuff, have you

2402
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:46,159
considered And this is terrible, but have you considered how

2403
01:53:46,199 --> 01:53:46,960
many kids do you have?

2404
01:53:47,079 --> 01:53:47,560
Speaker 3: Just the two?

2405
01:53:48,399 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 1: Yes, so one will be going to college. Would you

2406
01:53:53,920 --> 01:54:00,760
consider uh having your daughter? In New York State, you

2407
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:03,960
have the right to a public education and so they

2408
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:09,680
have to make accommodations, and it sounds like they're trying

2409
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:12,920
with the You know, she's got her own sentry following

2410
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:17,880
her around, right, right, but would you consider taking putting

2411
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:18,880
her in a different school.

2412
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:23,880
Speaker 13: We've brought that up because we want her to be

2413
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:27,680
happy and feel safe, right, And she keeps saying, no,

2414
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:29,800
I don't want to leave my school. I like, I

2415
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:32,000
want to stay. I want to stay at my school

2416
01:54:32,039 --> 01:54:35,520
for now. And look, middle school is a nightmare, right,

2417
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:38,000
I mean, I'm sure everybody can agree with that.

2418
01:54:38,079 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 3: And this sounds way worse.

2419
01:54:41,159 --> 01:54:44,279
Speaker 13: Beyond like I said, my other daughter has had a

2420
01:54:44,279 --> 01:54:47,880
wonderful experience. She's enjoyed high school. I mean, I don't

2421
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:49,840
know that high school is going to be any more

2422
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:52,800
better or if it's going to be worse. But until

2423
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:55,319
she says she wants to go look at another school,

2424
01:54:56,079 --> 01:54:59,439
we're going to fight and keep her there so she

2425
01:54:59,439 --> 01:55:02,039
can stay where she wants to be, Because, like you said,

2426
01:55:02,399 --> 01:55:02,880
it's a.

2427
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:04,359
Speaker 3: Right do you have.

2428
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 1: Do you feel like the district, the district itself, or

2429
01:55:08,039 --> 01:55:10,600
at least at the building level, are they responsive to you.

2430
01:55:13,199 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 13: When we push? We couldn't. We kept demanding to see

2431
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:20,079
the video because we wanted to see it. We wanted

2432
01:55:20,119 --> 01:55:22,359
to see what happened. And we had to push for

2433
01:55:22,479 --> 01:55:26,760
five days until they finally let us see it. And

2434
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:30,000
it was disturbing to us, obviously, as parents seen six

2435
01:55:30,039 --> 01:55:33,079
boys rush your daughter in the halloway and slammer into

2436
01:55:33,159 --> 01:55:37,600
lockers and then to harass us for ten days after

2437
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:42,119
on the phone, Like, yeah, we're pushing for everything, and

2438
01:55:43,359 --> 01:55:47,000
I understand the school district has to take certain steps

2439
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:50,399
and do things a certain way, but they could have,

2440
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:55,000
in my opinion, definitely issued a better punishment than three

2441
01:55:55,079 --> 01:55:55,960
day suspension.

2442
01:55:56,279 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, three day suspension for putting hands in somebody.

2443
01:56:00,119 --> 01:56:02,119
I always thought it was like an automatic five day

2444
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:06,640
and then what what can also happen I think in

2445
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:16,319
public schools is if the principle deems the action something

2446
01:56:16,359 --> 01:56:19,840
that would do the punishment needs more than five days,

2447
01:56:20,359 --> 01:56:25,760
then there's a superintendent's hearing. And then those can be

2448
01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:30,640
uncomfortable because you guys could go in and represent yourselves

2449
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:34,159
or hire a lawyer, and they can cross examine kids

2450
01:56:34,279 --> 01:56:36,520
like they bring the kids into witness Now those kids,

2451
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:40,279
I believe their parents are allowed to be there as

2452
01:56:40,319 --> 01:56:42,279
well to make sure that you know their kids. But

2453
01:56:43,079 --> 01:56:45,199
who wants to get to all that shit? And yet

2454
01:56:45,239 --> 01:56:48,840
at the same time, why are in a world that

2455
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:52,000
we have bully awareness and you know, be kind and

2456
01:56:52,079 --> 01:56:55,399
all this stuff that how is this allowed? And somebody

2457
01:56:55,399 --> 01:56:58,279
said still allowed to wrestle? Did we say that some

2458
01:56:58,359 --> 01:57:02,640
of the boys are on the wrestling team. Yes, this

2459
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:05,439
grade in particular has been a challenge for the building.

2460
01:57:05,800 --> 01:57:08,840
There are a number of ringleaders, yes, but there are

2461
01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:14,199
many many followers. That's an issue overall. Pepper spray. Somebody

2462
01:57:14,199 --> 01:57:17,279
says self defense classes. I know parents can't put their

2463
01:57:17,319 --> 01:57:19,920
hands on these punks, but maybe a group of bigger,

2464
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:25,239
tougher kids can. Unofficially, of course, somebody else says they

2465
01:57:25,319 --> 01:57:28,720
don't now this guy Ron He just writes they don't

2466
01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:31,159
have the balls to stand up to these kids.

2467
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:35,279
Speaker 3: The school needs to have their back. The problem is

2468
01:57:35,359 --> 01:57:38,199
your hands are tied. And at the same time it

2469
01:57:38,319 --> 01:57:41,119
sounds like, and I don't know, you have two kids.

2470
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:45,640
Sometimes I would let the rules of the playground kind

2471
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:46,319
of play out, right.

2472
01:57:46,359 --> 01:57:48,399
Speaker 1: You got to learn to just kind of roll through

2473
01:57:48,439 --> 01:57:50,560
some stuff. There's going to be some bumps along the way.

2474
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:54,479
This isn't a bump. This is out and out harassment.

2475
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:58,880
And your daughter isn't gay, and she isn't transgender, and

2476
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:03,239
she's being labeled by somebody to be a uh mean

2477
01:58:03,319 --> 01:58:07,840
this is mean girls. Yes, yeah, it's mean girls. So

2478
01:58:08,079 --> 01:58:10,119
what's the what's the end game here?

2479
01:58:10,159 --> 01:58:12,920
Speaker 3: What what are you hoping to get? I know what

2480
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:15,079
you're hoping to get. You're hoping to get to make all.

2481
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:17,439
Speaker 1: This shit go away and let your daughter live a

2482
01:58:17,479 --> 01:58:19,640
normal life and go to school and you know, come

2483
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:21,800
home and say hey, I got a you know, a

2484
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:25,199
ninety five on my essay today and something else and

2485
01:58:25,239 --> 01:58:27,159
not have to also here and oh, by the way

2486
01:58:27,199 --> 01:58:29,319
I got surrounded by six boys and slammed into a locker.

2487
01:58:30,239 --> 01:58:30,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2488
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:34,840
Speaker 13: Yeah, we we would love for to have our lives

2489
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:38,880
back to normal. This has been constant with the phone

2490
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:43,000
harassing and then the constant meetings at school and following

2491
01:58:43,079 --> 01:58:48,439
up and Leah just all her, you know, stressing about things.

2492
01:58:48,479 --> 01:58:53,119
It's it's been really hard and we're trying to set

2493
01:58:53,199 --> 01:58:56,720
up you lawyers and figure out how to where to

2494
01:58:56,760 --> 01:59:00,840
go from here. But until that DAS report is finalized,

2495
01:59:01,479 --> 01:59:04,560
really we're kind of just at a standstill.

2496
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:07,920
Speaker 3: What about her? Do you have her in counseling at all?

2497
01:59:09,159 --> 01:59:12,800
Speaker 13: She's been in counseling, yes, for a while because of

2498
01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:17,479
her anxiety and depression, so you know that's that's already

2499
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:20,520
been and that and again I think part of that

2500
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:24,680
too is why she gets targeted because she's she's sensitive

2501
01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:26,279
and she's an easy target.

2502
01:59:27,479 --> 01:59:29,359
Speaker 1: But those were never the fun kids to pick on.

2503
01:59:30,640 --> 01:59:32,000
I wanted the kid that was going to try to

2504
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:33,880
give it back, give me a little something here. I

2505
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:35,479
don't I don't want to want to pick on somebody

2506
01:59:35,479 --> 01:59:36,640
who's already got a tough time.

2507
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:37,359
Speaker 2: Let them happen.

2508
01:59:38,039 --> 01:59:40,000
Speaker 3: I want to go pick on one of the other people.

2509
01:59:40,359 --> 01:59:44,159
Speaker 1: Because to me it was more Westing, not not.

2510
01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 3: I don't now bullying, but that's that's terrible.

2511
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:49,479
Speaker 1: Let me before we wrap it up. Let me see

2512
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:52,720
Somebody says, Spens Report has a long history of hiding

2513
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:58,079
things and protecting bullies. Ask her who the therapist is

2514
01:59:59,000 --> 01:59:59,399
at school.

2515
01:59:59,439 --> 02:00:01,159
Speaker 3: It's time wrong. I'm not going to ask that. We

2516
02:00:01,119 --> 02:00:03,600
don't know, we don't. We don't need to drive people.

2517
02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:06,319
Speaker 13: They've been wonderful.

2518
02:00:06,600 --> 02:00:09,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, therapists.

2519
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:14,720
Speaker 13: Great, the teachers are great. There's just everybody is just

2520
02:00:14,800 --> 02:00:17,439
I feel like this is just taking too long, and

2521
02:00:18,279 --> 02:00:20,079
I just want her to feel safe.

2522
02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:25,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I want I think the punishment should match

2523
02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:25,960
the crime.

2524
02:00:27,479 --> 02:00:29,800
Speaker 1: Well, that you got to call them back into the

2525
02:00:29,960 --> 02:00:32,319
middle of the night, all night long, or at least

2526
02:00:32,319 --> 02:00:34,960
their parents or somebody, right, maybe go can you guys

2527
02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:37,520
go ding down ditch and just leave it. And then

2528
02:00:37,880 --> 02:00:41,920
on the third one, take a dog's feces, put it

2529
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:44,560
in a paper bag, lighting on fire, and then there

2530
02:00:44,640 --> 02:00:47,000
and then why and just see what happens. Somebody says,

2531
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:49,479
I'm one hundred percent on the sick family side, but

2532
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:53,159
I'm wondering if they've tried talking to the parents directly.

2533
02:00:55,439 --> 02:00:59,399
Speaker 9: I had one parent did reach out to me. We

2534
02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:00,720
talked quite a bit.

2535
02:01:00,880 --> 02:01:05,239
Speaker 1: The parent came to you. Yes, okay, that's a little bit.

2536
02:01:05,359 --> 02:01:09,239
That seems a little encouraging to me. That it wasn't right.

2537
02:01:09,560 --> 02:01:10,319
Speaker 13: Yes it was.

2538
02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:12,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I that that's how I would take it.

2539
02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:14,560
But okay, mm hmmm.

2540
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:17,640
Speaker 9: And it got to the point where you know, they said,

2541
02:01:17,680 --> 02:01:20,720
all right, I want my son to apologize, you know,

2542
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:24,880
in person, to your daughter. And I said, that's fine,

2543
02:01:25,079 --> 02:01:26,960
but the only way that I'm going to allow that

2544
02:01:27,039 --> 02:01:32,239
to happen is if your son wants to apologize. That

2545
02:01:32,359 --> 02:01:35,560
wasn't the case. That kid did not want to apologize,

2546
02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:36,119
of course not.

2547
02:01:36,520 --> 02:01:38,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he didn't want he didn't want to be

2548
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:41,880
that's it. He can't do that.

2549
02:01:42,520 --> 02:01:42,600
Speaker 5: Uh.

2550
02:01:42,920 --> 02:01:46,359
Speaker 1: Somebody says the parents have not reached out to them,

2551
02:01:46,880 --> 02:01:50,359
only one did, but the kid did not want to apologize.

2552
02:01:50,479 --> 02:01:55,079
This is exactly what I'm sorry, I'm repeating it there.

2553
02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:58,279
You have a know at six you have to have

2554
02:01:58,319 --> 02:02:00,920
certain grades to play sports and aren't allowed to play

2555
02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:04,560
until the grades are up. They should be incident free

2556
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:08,880
from bullying until they can return to sports, said somebody.

2557
02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:12,720
Speaker 13: So this is another thing that's put that bothering me.

2558
02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:16,079
Because you know, Leah is an athlete. She plays a

2559
02:02:16,079 --> 02:02:18,520
couple of sports at school, and yeah, you have to

2560
02:02:18,600 --> 02:02:20,800
have you can't be failing classes, are doing bad in

2561
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:23,760
school to play sports, right, So why is it you

2562
02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:28,039
can do this and still play sports.

2563
02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:28,680
Speaker 3: Right, I don't know.

2564
02:02:29,279 --> 02:02:32,239
Speaker 1: Maybe it's how they could warm up for the wrestling team.

2565
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:36,560
We got some motas today. Find that weak girl in

2566
02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:37,640
school and slammer around.

2567
02:02:37,680 --> 02:02:40,720
Speaker 3: I mean it's like it's insanity, right, and it's unfortunate.

2568
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:41,680
But boy, so.

2569
02:02:42,159 --> 02:02:44,800
Speaker 6: Fire in school and the coaches found out about that stuff. Yeah,

2570
02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:46,760
they wouldn't kick me off the team. They would punish

2571
02:02:46,760 --> 02:02:48,520
the heck out of me. Yeah, and then they kicked

2572
02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:48,800
me off.

2573
02:02:48,720 --> 02:02:50,399
Speaker 3: The so they would give you a wedgie or something.

2574
02:02:50,439 --> 02:02:53,319
Speaker 1: The coaches would like be furious.

2575
02:02:53,800 --> 02:02:56,399
Speaker 9: You know they've got that code of conduct. Then, yes,

2576
02:02:57,239 --> 02:03:01,399
I've read it and I'm sorry that those kids acted

2577
02:03:02,439 --> 02:03:05,479
the way that they did. There should be no sports,

2578
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:06,680
so right.

2579
02:03:06,760 --> 02:03:09,720
Speaker 3: Can this Can you go to the Board of Education?

2580
02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:12,239
Speaker 9: That's going to be our next stuff?

2581
02:03:12,319 --> 02:03:16,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the Board of Education and some people in

2582
02:03:16,279 --> 02:03:18,640
the administrations and things don't like the Board of Education

2583
02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:21,159
because it's people who are I don't know why it

2584
02:03:21,199 --> 02:03:23,000
would even volunteer to be honest, to be.

2585
02:03:22,960 --> 02:03:23,399
Speaker 3: Honest with you.

2586
02:03:23,479 --> 02:03:26,439
Speaker 1: But uh, but there are people who are very invested

2587
02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:29,520
or interested in this and sometimes they really come down

2588
02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:32,079
hard on some things. And maybe that's what you need

2589
02:03:32,119 --> 02:03:36,119
to say. Hey, I would say, when you have a

2590
02:03:36,239 --> 02:03:39,760
threat in the school against your own community, you got

2591
02:03:39,800 --> 02:03:42,640
to end that. We can't have that. We can't have that.

2592
02:03:42,720 --> 02:03:46,079
We can't have people feeling unsafe. Everybody needs to feel welcome.

2593
02:03:46,439 --> 02:03:48,399
I don't give a shit. You know, take your you

2594
02:03:48,439 --> 02:03:50,560
want to take your stuff outside, that's fine. You want

2595
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:53,119
to call the six until six thirty in the morning,

2596
02:03:53,319 --> 02:03:55,319
just harassing their phone, they can turn that off.

2597
02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:56,439
Speaker 3: I'm kidding.

2598
02:03:56,479 --> 02:03:59,479
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, But I'm just saying, like this, this stuff

2599
02:03:59,520 --> 02:04:03,359
is terrible because all you want is just to end, right, Yeah,

2600
02:04:03,359 --> 02:04:05,960
And I you know, I feel bad saying have you

2601
02:04:06,039 --> 02:04:09,159
considered a different school for your kid? But like, maybe

2602
02:04:09,199 --> 02:04:12,399
those guys need I know a lot of these schools

2603
02:04:12,439 --> 02:04:17,439
have alternative learning centers, you know, Yeah, and so why

2604
02:04:17,479 --> 02:04:20,800
not send them there or something. But it's interesting. I'll

2605
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:23,560
be interested to kind of see how this plays out.

2606
02:04:23,720 --> 02:04:27,039
When are they saying to you anything will be done well?

2607
02:04:27,439 --> 02:04:29,800
And I'm not saying this to even sound funny because

2608
02:04:29,880 --> 02:04:32,119
where we are, it's December fifth, when we're recording this,

2609
02:04:33,159 --> 02:04:36,439
twenty twenty five is coming up. The kids, I'm sure everywhere,

2610
02:04:36,479 --> 02:04:38,920
have two weeks off, so there's only two and a

2611
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:43,079
half full weeks of school left, and it doesn't sound

2612
02:04:43,119 --> 02:04:45,279
like that report's coming anytime in those next two and

2613
02:04:45,279 --> 02:04:45,840
a half weeks.

2614
02:04:47,279 --> 02:04:50,960
Speaker 9: We've heard end of this week, we've heard next week,

2615
02:04:51,119 --> 02:04:53,079
but nobody really knows, you.

2616
02:04:53,079 --> 02:04:57,359
Speaker 1: Know, what's always coming, but never hear tomorrow. Yeah, tomorrow, right,

2617
02:04:57,399 --> 02:04:59,319
you know what I'm saying. I mean, that's what it is.

2618
02:04:59,359 --> 02:05:03,680
You know, it's like free beer tomorrow. Goddamn it said

2619
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:06,199
free beer, you know, And that's sort of what it is,

2620
02:05:06,239 --> 02:05:09,760
and it's it's very frustrating. I'm sorry you're dealing with

2621
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:14,399
all that can your older daughter in any way through

2622
02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:18,520
networking and friends and maybe has friends that are seniors

2623
02:05:18,520 --> 02:05:21,079
that are on the wrestling team to try to quell

2624
02:05:21,119 --> 02:05:23,319
a little of this or or or put the fear

2625
02:05:23,319 --> 02:05:25,720
of God in these guys going this is a house

2626
02:05:25,720 --> 02:05:29,199
spencer Port wrestlers represent themselves. I'm going to take you

2627
02:05:29,239 --> 02:05:31,600
by your single it and put your nuts in your throat.

2628
02:05:32,239 --> 02:05:34,840
Speaker 13: I'm sorry, I mean I don't want them. I mean

2629
02:05:35,319 --> 02:05:38,079
we have friends that have you know, boys on the

2630
02:05:38,079 --> 02:05:41,640
wrestling team, and they're all good kids. Like it's just

2631
02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:43,640
this modified group.

2632
02:05:44,079 --> 02:05:46,359
Speaker 3: Oh, the modified kids.

2633
02:05:46,520 --> 02:05:47,159
Speaker 13: Modified.

2634
02:05:47,880 --> 02:05:51,239
Speaker 1: Well, they should wrestle the varsity and then they'll be right.

2635
02:05:51,479 --> 02:05:54,000
Their bodies will be modified by the time it's over.

2636
02:05:54,960 --> 02:05:58,600
Speaker 13: But honestly, I don't think I think they would laugh

2637
02:05:58,680 --> 02:06:02,439
and say what. I don't think anything is scaring them

2638
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:07,039
right now. Anything they just keep doing. I got messages

2639
02:06:07,079 --> 02:06:09,880
from several people last night in this morning that now

2640
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:12,760
they're calling them all hours of the night saying awful,

2641
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:18,239
vile things and threatening their children with sexual, disgusting things.

2642
02:06:18,399 --> 02:06:22,239
And now I feel bad because it's moved on to

2643
02:06:22,279 --> 02:06:22,920
somebody else.

2644
02:06:23,359 --> 02:06:25,159
Speaker 3: No, you should you should go to see what I

2645
02:06:25,199 --> 02:06:26,600
had to deal with. Good night.

2646
02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:30,279
Speaker 13: Well yeah, so other people are finding it out, which

2647
02:06:30,319 --> 02:06:34,640
is not good. But I just something has to change,

2648
02:06:35,600 --> 02:06:39,119
like we got to stop these these boys, and a

2649
02:06:39,119 --> 02:06:39,479
lot of.

2650
02:06:39,439 --> 02:06:41,039
Speaker 9: It is the juvenile laws.

2651
02:06:41,279 --> 02:06:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm fortunately somebody is saying, dumb thirteen year old boys

2652
02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:47,000
did something stupid. Maybe it wasn't as bad as they're

2653
02:06:47,039 --> 02:06:50,039
saying it is. If they're not giving more consequences, not

2654
02:06:50,119 --> 02:06:52,520
the same boys maybe not as bad in the school,

2655
02:06:52,560 --> 02:06:56,680
but the harassment outside of school is this shit that

2656
02:06:57,439 --> 02:07:00,000
that's my point of the bullying going too far now

2657
02:07:00,039 --> 02:07:02,640
out right to and and to find you got to

2658
02:07:02,680 --> 02:07:05,840
do work. I want to see these kids' grades. If

2659
02:07:05,840 --> 02:07:08,760
you're smart enough to go dig up mister six's phone number,

2660
02:07:09,359 --> 02:07:11,279
you're smart enough to get an A and algebra get

2661
02:07:11,399 --> 02:07:15,600
dumb ass. But uh, schools, yeah.

2662
02:07:15,399 --> 02:07:17,920
Speaker 13: I mean we have an open line of communication with

2663
02:07:17,960 --> 02:07:20,600
the grease Fleee and the ogon Foleee, so they are

2664
02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:25,399
still working on everything, all these investigating, you know, so

2665
02:07:26,680 --> 02:07:29,960
there's things worth coming with that, with the harassment and

2666
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:30,560
the threats.

2667
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:33,960
Speaker 1: Somebody, somebody does say schools in the state are all

2668
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:36,720
about mental health, but they are aren't doing shit to

2669
02:07:36,760 --> 02:07:39,319
help this poor girl and others that have gone through

2670
02:07:39,319 --> 02:07:43,640
similar bullying. It's the it's the harassment beyond right, and

2671
02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:46,960
somebody goes again. Not the same boys, not the same boys.

2672
02:07:47,159 --> 02:07:51,079
I don't know, but it doesn't matter. It's the balls

2673
02:07:51,159 --> 02:07:54,920
iness to you know, it's like the keyboard warriors of things. Uh,

2674
02:07:55,520 --> 02:07:58,039
I don't, I don't know. I think sometimes if you

2675
02:07:58,239 --> 02:08:01,319
it's hard to see your kids suffer and not be

2676
02:08:01,439 --> 02:08:05,239
able to help in some way that's very hard.

2677
02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:06,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2678
02:08:06,439 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 13: Yeah, this is a marine he wants.

2679
02:08:08,439 --> 02:08:09,319
Speaker 3: To you know.

2680
02:08:09,479 --> 02:08:10,680
Speaker 2: Oh, I can imagine.

2681
02:08:11,199 --> 02:08:13,800
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's not easy. It's not been easy.

2682
02:08:14,439 --> 02:08:16,119
Speaker 3: Five motherfucker five.

2683
02:08:16,239 --> 02:08:18,560
Speaker 2: Don't you don't f for the marine man?

2684
02:08:18,760 --> 02:08:20,039
Speaker 3: No, I've been I mean that.

2685
02:08:20,199 --> 02:08:22,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Marines are at the top of the world's

2686
02:08:22,319 --> 02:08:22,880
food chain.

2687
02:08:23,000 --> 02:08:28,279
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, people not to mess with. Does your

2688
02:08:28,319 --> 02:08:31,600
older daughter have a boyfriend currently?

2689
02:08:31,680 --> 02:08:32,159
Speaker 13: No?

2690
02:08:32,159 --> 02:08:34,560
Speaker 1: No, currently no that but she did it. But my

2691
02:08:34,720 --> 02:08:37,600
question was just the way, what was the initiation process

2692
02:08:37,680 --> 02:08:40,239
when she came to when the guy showed up to

2693
02:08:40,279 --> 02:08:40,680
take her.

2694
02:08:40,600 --> 02:08:43,159
Speaker 3: Out on the date or something. If you could do

2695
02:08:43,199 --> 02:08:45,640
one hundred and ten push ups in the next ninety seconds,

2696
02:08:46,279 --> 02:08:46,800
what's that.

2697
02:08:47,479 --> 02:08:49,920
Speaker 9: I might puff up my chest a little bit. I

2698
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:51,800
don't go a little bit deeper.

2699
02:08:51,880 --> 02:08:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't blame you at all. I mean, look either way.

2700
02:08:54,960 --> 02:08:57,680
I mean I think the term now is girl dad,

2701
02:08:57,800 --> 02:08:58,840
Right we say girl dad.

2702
02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:02,640
Speaker 3: I would say just a parent in general. It's tough.

2703
02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:05,279
Speaker 1: And I didn't have girls I had. I had three sons,

2704
02:09:05,800 --> 02:09:09,319
and uh, you know, but you don't want to see

2705
02:09:09,319 --> 02:09:10,960
any of them go through that kind of stuff. And

2706
02:09:11,000 --> 02:09:14,199
I had one that really went through a lot of

2707
02:09:14,199 --> 02:09:16,880
hell when I think about it, really went through hell

2708
02:09:16,960 --> 02:09:20,520
with stuff. But you know now as as a big

2709
02:09:20,600 --> 02:09:23,399
muscle guy, and maybe they created that's.

2710
02:09:23,199 --> 02:09:24,640
Speaker 3: The reason why. I don't know.

2711
02:09:24,720 --> 02:09:27,960
Speaker 1: He's just but I wish you the best with this

2712
02:09:28,079 --> 02:09:33,119
and I hope that, uh, something stops, and I hope

2713
02:09:33,119 --> 02:09:36,319
we give you let you say everything you wanted to say.

2714
02:09:36,359 --> 02:09:37,279
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's more.

2715
02:09:38,600 --> 02:09:40,880
Speaker 9: Basically, I just you know, like you said, I want

2716
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:45,520
this to stop. I want I want the community to

2717
02:09:45,600 --> 02:09:49,840
come together and put some pressure on these kids.

2718
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:51,079
Speaker 13: Take their phones away.

2719
02:09:51,680 --> 02:09:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, right, like, don't let.

2720
02:09:54,560 --> 02:09:56,319
Speaker 13: Them have them at night so they can keep people

2721
02:09:56,359 --> 02:09:58,000
awake out and I'm threaten them.

2722
02:09:58,039 --> 02:09:59,600
Speaker 9: I don't know, yeah.

2723
02:09:59,520 --> 02:10:02,279
Speaker 6: That Yeah, they don't have good parents, but their parents

2724
02:10:02,279 --> 02:10:04,359
have given them a phone well or they have the

2725
02:10:04,359 --> 02:10:04,880
phone something.

2726
02:10:05,119 --> 02:10:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but dude, it's sometimes you're so tired and you

2727
02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:11,000
just go, uh, they're in their room, they're quiet. You're

2728
02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:14,680
downstairs watching the game or the Hallmark Christmas movie. You

2729
02:10:14,720 --> 02:10:16,880
got Christmas music playing and you're drinking egg nog. You

2730
02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:20,560
think everybody's happy upstairs. You know terrorist number one is

2731
02:10:21,439 --> 02:10:24,079
harassing the six and the Smiths and the you know

2732
02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:28,800
somebody else down the road. Wow, Well, who knew in

2733
02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:32,560
spencerport uncovering this. Uh, there's some news. Has has it

2734
02:10:32,680 --> 02:10:33,880
gotten to the news at all?

2735
02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:36,159
Speaker 2: I apologize story?

2736
02:10:36,199 --> 02:10:36,680
Speaker 3: Oh they did?

2737
02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:39,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, thirteen thirteen.

2738
02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:46,720
Speaker 13: I kept putting off the interviews. Why our attorney said

2739
02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:51,279
not to. But at this point they keep calling me.

2740
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:55,439
So I gave them a little tidbit of information. But

2741
02:10:55,560 --> 02:10:59,439
I again, I don't want to bring negative attention.

2742
02:11:01,600 --> 02:11:05,399
Speaker 3: You just want the ship to stop. I just yeah, life,

2743
02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:06,359
cut it out.

2744
02:11:07,399 --> 02:11:09,840
Speaker 13: We haven't been able to work like normal people. We

2745
02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:13,920
haven't slept. It's just it's it's not been easy at all.

2746
02:11:14,399 --> 02:11:17,039
Speaker 1: Last one, last thing here, because I do find this

2747
02:11:17,079 --> 02:11:20,399
a little interesting. The boy that was being forced to apologize,

2748
02:11:20,399 --> 02:11:23,319
I'll say that right. His parents found out and his

2749
02:11:23,319 --> 02:11:25,119
old man probably said, you're gonna get your ass over

2750
02:11:25,119 --> 02:11:28,439
there and apologize. Uh, And you said, I don't want

2751
02:11:28,479 --> 02:11:32,039
an apology unless it's a sincere apology. At the same time,

2752
02:11:32,359 --> 02:11:35,119
could you ask to have a meeting with that kid

2753
02:11:35,359 --> 02:11:37,720
and his and his father and just go why is

2754
02:11:37,760 --> 02:11:40,079
this happening? Try to get some understood. Like you know,

2755
02:11:40,159 --> 02:11:42,840
I always think what's the root of this and how

2756
02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:45,119
do we make it go away? And then you know,

2757
02:11:47,119 --> 02:11:50,000
I'm going to sound like a total douche here, But

2758
02:11:50,000 --> 02:11:53,640
but NEATSI the philosopher always said, if you could put

2759
02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:54,600
a face to the.

2760
02:11:54,520 --> 02:11:57,600
Speaker 3: Pain, would you still do it? Right? So I can

2761
02:11:57,680 --> 02:12:00,680
harass you? Call you and it's fun. Hey, you know

2762
02:12:00,720 --> 02:12:03,159
what I did to Leah's parents that night that you

2763
02:12:03,159 --> 02:12:06,039
know what I said to her mom, all these disgusting things,

2764
02:12:06,119 --> 02:12:07,319
and I can go in and brag about it.

2765
02:12:07,359 --> 02:12:09,239
Speaker 1: But if I had to sit across the table from

2766
02:12:09,279 --> 02:12:11,760
Leah's mom and I had to look Kim in the

2767
02:12:11,800 --> 02:12:15,800
face after saying all those things and maintain eye contact,

2768
02:12:15,800 --> 02:12:17,359
somebody goes, you got to keep looking Earnder the eye.

2769
02:12:17,399 --> 02:12:20,560
You got to would this shit stop? And I don't

2770
02:12:20,600 --> 02:12:22,800
know if that's a way for you to try, in

2771
02:12:22,880 --> 02:12:25,640
some way to go, you know, puff up that chest,

2772
02:12:25,720 --> 02:12:28,760
put on you know your your I don't know what

2773
02:12:28,760 --> 02:12:32,920
they call it, the Marines, your uniform blues.

2774
02:12:34,119 --> 02:12:34,920
Speaker 3: Your dress blues.

2775
02:12:34,960 --> 02:12:35,319
Speaker 2: Thank you.

2776
02:12:35,359 --> 02:12:36,359
Speaker 3: I couldn't come up with it.

2777
02:12:36,399 --> 02:12:40,079
Speaker 1: I was never in the military, shockingly, but you put

2778
02:12:40,119 --> 02:12:41,840
on your dress blues and made me show up with

2779
02:12:41,880 --> 02:12:44,239
those shine shoes, and you know I'd be I'd be

2780
02:12:44,680 --> 02:12:46,720
shitting a purple brick if I were a kid. But

2781
02:12:47,640 --> 02:12:51,479
something that could just find a I don't know, almost

2782
02:12:51,479 --> 02:12:54,640
get like the mole inside the gang here and find

2783
02:12:54,640 --> 02:12:56,600
out what's going on and why is this happening and

2784
02:12:56,600 --> 02:12:58,479
how do we make it stop, because it's not fair

2785
02:12:58,840 --> 02:12:59,479
to anybody.

2786
02:13:00,159 --> 02:13:02,560
Speaker 13: She she did want to meet with the one boy

2787
02:13:04,079 --> 02:13:08,600
she did, and you know, the dad really wanted to

2788
02:13:08,640 --> 02:13:14,119
make it happen, and unfortunately it didn't, you know, which

2789
02:13:14,159 --> 02:13:18,359
is sad. But at this point, we can't. We can't

2790
02:13:18,399 --> 02:13:22,279
force it, like if he doesn't want to face her

2791
02:13:22,439 --> 02:13:24,039
or face me or anybody else.

2792
02:13:24,439 --> 02:13:28,119
Speaker 9: I've even offered for all of the parents to come

2793
02:13:28,159 --> 02:13:31,560
to the school. We all sit down in a room

2794
02:13:32,039 --> 02:13:36,520
and watch that video together, because only one parent saw

2795
02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:41,680
that video out of the sex okay that I'm aware of. Yeah,

2796
02:13:42,479 --> 02:13:46,760
and I would love for the for every parent to

2797
02:13:46,800 --> 02:13:49,760
be in there so I can look them right in

2798
02:13:49,760 --> 02:13:50,119
the face.

2799
02:13:50,199 --> 02:13:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I mean,

2800
02:13:52,640 --> 02:13:54,840
even for the parent. I mean that you put a

2801
02:13:54,840 --> 02:13:57,560
face to the pain. It's it's a little bit more.

2802
02:13:57,600 --> 02:14:00,880
Everybody can be a keyboard warrior or whatever they're doing.

2803
02:14:01,359 --> 02:14:06,800
But you know, I don't know, sick strong. Somebody says,

2804
02:14:06,800 --> 02:14:10,760
we're with you, turn off your phones and whatever. We

2805
02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:12,399
could go on on a lot of the comments will

2806
02:14:12,439 --> 02:14:15,159
be similar, but I do think if that may be

2807
02:14:15,319 --> 02:14:19,640
the solution or I I mean, I would as a

2808
02:14:19,720 --> 02:14:23,960
last resort try to invite the parents over have a

2809
02:14:23,960 --> 02:14:26,399
big brunch in my house and have you know what

2810
02:14:26,439 --> 02:14:31,680
I'm saying something go hey, at this level, can we

2811
02:14:31,720 --> 02:14:34,279
figure out why this is happening and how can we

2812
02:14:34,319 --> 02:14:38,159
make it stop? Because it's not it's affecting the mental

2813
02:14:38,199 --> 02:14:41,600
health and stability of the entire family, of my family

2814
02:14:41,880 --> 02:14:44,960
and other Yeah, and that that that's not right. And

2815
02:14:45,000 --> 02:14:47,000
that's the part that I think people need to realize.

2816
02:14:47,279 --> 02:14:49,760
Maybe it's not the same boys, it doesn't matter. It's

2817
02:14:50,119 --> 02:14:53,359
a it's a problem. It's affecting people in the community,

2818
02:14:53,680 --> 02:14:57,399
and it's uh, it shouldn't be tolerated, you know.

2819
02:14:57,439 --> 02:15:00,000
Speaker 3: Right. We have the right to life, liberty and the

2820
02:15:00,079 --> 02:15:03,319
pursue happiness. And you little pricks, you're gonna end up

2821
02:15:03,319 --> 02:15:05,560
in the bottom of the canal and keep it up.

2822
02:15:06,199 --> 02:15:08,920
Speaker 6: Well, somebody, maybe the guy who was stealing that thing

2823
02:15:08,960 --> 02:15:11,399
we talked about earlier, maybe he was going to take

2824
02:15:11,439 --> 02:15:11,920
them out.

2825
02:15:12,359 --> 02:15:13,239
Speaker 2: Maybe that was the case.

2826
02:15:13,319 --> 02:15:13,840
Speaker 3: I don't.

2827
02:15:15,760 --> 02:15:16,640
Speaker 2: Joking joking.

2828
02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:19,000
Speaker 1: I hope in some way this helps I really do.

2829
02:15:19,199 --> 02:15:19,960
I hope it helps.

2830
02:15:20,199 --> 02:15:20,600
Speaker 9: I hope.

2831
02:15:20,640 --> 02:15:24,039
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I make no promises, that's all I'm telling you.

2832
02:15:24,279 --> 02:15:26,279
I don't wonder. I don't need a marine knocking on

2833
02:15:26,319 --> 02:15:26,680
my door.

2834
02:15:27,239 --> 02:15:28,960
Speaker 13: No, no, you don't want that.

2835
02:15:29,319 --> 02:15:29,920
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

2836
02:15:30,800 --> 02:15:33,920
Speaker 1: Well, good luck with everything, and I hope that you know,

2837
02:15:34,159 --> 02:15:36,880
maybe after the Christmas break you get into a new year,

2838
02:15:37,000 --> 02:15:40,079
things change and you get that report and everything's move

2839
02:15:40,159 --> 02:15:40,680
forward for you.

2840
02:15:41,560 --> 02:15:42,279
Speaker 13: And thank you.

2841
02:15:42,520 --> 02:15:45,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish you all the best. Thank you.

2842
02:15:46,319 --> 02:15:49,800
Speaker 13: So we're going to continue fighting, okay.

2843
02:15:49,560 --> 02:15:52,000
Speaker 3: We'll continue on. And uh, I'm praying for you. Yeah,

2844
02:15:52,119 --> 02:15:54,680
I well, thank you. Yeah, Danny's a prayer and I'll

2845
02:15:54,680 --> 02:15:55,199
just send.

2846
02:15:55,000 --> 02:15:59,960
Speaker 1: Good vibes okay if you'll accept them in charge freach.

2847
02:16:00,319 --> 02:16:04,399
There you go, Thank you, guys, and thank you for

2848
02:16:04,439 --> 02:16:07,079
having a sense of humor about things too that I

2849
02:16:07,079 --> 02:16:09,840
think that's very important to keep. And not that we're

2850
02:16:09,880 --> 02:16:12,560
all laughing about it, but you understand, like you see

2851
02:16:12,800 --> 02:16:15,079
you seem like you're not out for vengeance. You just

2852
02:16:15,119 --> 02:16:19,039
wanted to stop right. Yeah, yeah, good luck with it all.

2853
02:16:19,119 --> 02:16:20,640
Thank you, Thank you.

2854
02:16:21,800 --> 02:16:24,319
Speaker 3: There we go. Well that, I mean, I'm just shocked

2855
02:16:24,319 --> 02:16:26,000
by some of that stuff.

2856
02:16:27,600 --> 02:16:28,119
Speaker 2: I just keep it.

2857
02:16:28,199 --> 02:16:30,239
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine my old man found out I

2858
02:16:30,279 --> 02:16:33,559
was doing that stuff. I mean, the saying was, I'll

2859
02:16:33,559 --> 02:16:35,639
stick my foot so far up your ass you'll be

2860
02:16:35,639 --> 02:16:36,600
burp and shoe polished.

2861
02:16:36,600 --> 02:16:38,280
Speaker 3: For a week followed.

2862
02:16:38,360 --> 02:16:41,239
Speaker 2: My father wouldn't tolerate that. There was this one girl

2863
02:16:41,280 --> 02:16:41,760
and fourth.

2864
02:16:41,600 --> 02:16:43,600
Speaker 3: On a size twelve, right up your ass, cut it out.

2865
02:16:43,639 --> 02:16:45,760
Speaker 6: There was this one girl in fourth grade and everybody

2866
02:16:45,760 --> 02:16:48,319
picked on her except for me, all the boys. Yeah,

2867
02:16:48,360 --> 02:16:51,040
and she made comment that I didn't pick on her

2868
02:16:51,079 --> 02:16:52,600
specifically my cousin was in the closes.

2869
02:16:52,760 --> 02:16:55,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, because fire of a kick his ass. But I

2870
02:16:55,440 --> 02:16:56,520
still wouldn't pick on her.

2871
02:16:56,639 --> 02:16:59,719
Speaker 3: Even that wasn't being yeah, that's not that's not right.

2872
02:17:00,239 --> 02:17:04,079
Speaker 6: I mean it's like, come on, guys, like, where do

2873
02:17:04,159 --> 02:17:06,600
you like where's the I just don't That's why I'm

2874
02:17:06,879 --> 02:17:07,920
I was quiet most of the time.

2875
02:17:07,920 --> 02:17:08,799
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say.

2876
02:17:08,920 --> 02:17:11,920
Speaker 3: Oh, there's nothing really you can say, Mike. I don't know,

2877
02:17:12,399 --> 02:17:14,959
it's awful. I'm just trying to think, like, as a solution,

2878
02:17:15,040 --> 02:17:16,600
what do you do as a parent of this?

2879
02:17:16,719 --> 02:17:20,360
Speaker 1: And I know that people are going to go, well,

2880
02:17:20,399 --> 02:17:21,760
you didn't ask the tough question. I don't know what

2881
02:17:21,799 --> 02:17:24,799
the tough question. What are the tough questions. We found

2882
02:17:24,840 --> 02:17:27,079
out that a girl started a rumor that this girl

2883
02:17:27,159 --> 02:17:31,000
was gay. She's not transgender as some other people's posts

2884
02:17:31,040 --> 02:17:35,239
were alluding to. And that's that right now.

2885
02:17:35,959 --> 02:17:41,840
Speaker 3: Well, Danny, Yeah, go Buffalo, Go Bills, Go Buffalo. What

2886
02:17:41,959 --> 02:17:42,680
is Spencer Port?

2887
02:17:42,719 --> 02:17:45,000
Speaker 1: What's their do we know their mascot or whatever? The

2888
02:17:45,079 --> 02:17:49,239
rangers angers, I don't know. Get the rangers out there

2889
02:17:49,239 --> 02:17:51,319
to round up those fellows and see what's happening.

2890
02:17:52,120 --> 02:17:52,319
Speaker 3: Uh.

2891
02:17:52,440 --> 02:17:55,479
Speaker 1: For Dan Burillo. For Kevin Muir, who Danny, by the way,

2892
02:17:55,680 --> 02:17:58,120
kicked my ass. I was so proud of you. You

2893
02:17:58,200 --> 02:17:59,639
had the theme and everything.

2894
02:17:59,559 --> 02:18:00,440
Speaker 2: The songs.

2895
02:18:01,280 --> 02:18:03,840
Speaker 3: I don't know why. I think when I.

2896
02:18:03,280 --> 02:18:08,600
Speaker 1: Heard the inhaler, I thought, oh this has gotta I

2897
02:18:08,680 --> 02:18:11,239
did have a two songs in right, Wilson Phillips and

2898
02:18:11,239 --> 02:18:14,559
all my song Yeah for Danny crushed me and theme

2899
02:18:14,639 --> 02:18:16,319
that too, Kevin for putting it all together.

2900
02:18:16,600 --> 02:18:17,239
Speaker 3: We're gonna have a.

2901
02:18:17,159 --> 02:18:21,479
Speaker 1: Bonus show tomorrow that will drop audio on for Monday,

2902
02:18:21,520 --> 02:18:24,840
but you can watch us online tomorrow as.

2903
02:18:24,639 --> 02:18:28,280
Speaker 3: We celebrate our two year anniversary. And thank you to

2904
02:18:28,360 --> 02:18:30,920
the six. I hope they do well and think figure

2905
02:18:30,920 --> 02:18:33,559
things out. Mister Fico, I'm glad you got your tractor back.

2906
02:18:33,680 --> 02:18:37,440
I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow.

2907
02:18:38,479 --> 02:19:05,319
Speaker 2: Flo Murder