Speaker 1: It is the Big twelve SEC breakdown to Jell's topmans
Bridge is here with you with a comprehensive look around
the Big twelve and the SEC. We begin as we
do each and every week, with our hot takes. Tom,
I'll let you start. Do you want to go with this?
Which which league?
Speaker 2: And which team do you want to draw your attention to?
Speaker 3: You know, oh, you and Texas are both off this week,
so I don't really want to touch on them very much,
which kind of leads me back to and nobody said.
Nobody said anything. I don't think anybody's gonna say anything.
I will have to eat crow for my UCF pick
last week. I did not expect Colorado to walk in
Orlando and did what they did this past weekend. And
to be fair, I don't think a whole lot of
people also saw that coming.
Speaker 1: So were double digit dogs, and they ended up winning
that game by double digits themselves on the road in
a great atmosphere at the Bounce House. They looked great
and they're at four wins now. They've already matched last
year's win total. I mean borring and collapse here. Colorado
is gonna be a bold team with a winning record,
and that's a very good UCF team they beat. Like
I hate to admit it, I hate to give Colorado
credit here, but that was a job well done. Like
they're not going down without a fight, and I think
Shador looks fantastic and Travis Hunter should be the Heisman favorite,
I believe me.
Speaker 2: I hate giving them credit, but credit with credits do.
Speaker 3: I mean we also said that, you know, we also,
I mean we've had some cold takes over the years,
but this is one of the coldest. I feel like
we were like, you know, UCF and UCF Utah could
be undefeated and meet each other, and then the way
that they played, Oh, it was horrible, guy, it was horrible.
Utah law you know, Utah ended up losing. Now the
Mormons are in, you know, set for potential Arlington trip.
I don't know, and I'm gonna just I'm gonna be
superstitious here and doing this, and this is where I'm
going for the Big twelve breakdown. I think West Virginia
beats o issue this weekend in still Water, and I
think the Camel, I think the straw that breaks the
Camel's back is Neil Brown winning in still Water. What
I now I think this, if they win this week
and still Water will be two years in a row.
Speaker 4: I think that West Virginia would win in still Water.
Speaker 3: And I think the straw that breaks the camel's back
for Casey Dunn is Neil Brown getting the dub in
still Water. So I'm gonna use the reverse psychology and
I'm gonna say West Virginia wins by ten this weekend
in still Water.
Speaker 1: Our guys at Heartland are just now calling for Casey
Dunn to be fired. I'm like, where you guys been.
We've been saying this for how long? For a couple
of years, right, And you know I would say in
the Big twelve tom as somebody that's experienced this firsthand,
even just a couple of weeks ago. We have dogged
on Neil Brown so much, and I don't think he's
a very good coach.
Speaker 2: I thought he should have been fired a long.
Speaker 1: Time ago, but he somehow always ends up in the
right place in the right time.
Speaker 2: And there's nothing.
Speaker 1: More humiliating, nothing more embarrassing I feel, than to lose
to a Neil Brown coach team. And that's what Kansas
went through a couple of weeks ago, and Oklahoma State's
got their work cut out for them to avoid that
this week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it happens to him, and I think,
and I'm to be fair and I'm a little biased, obviously,
I'm nervous for that. After the third quarter, would noue
went three and out on the first drive after halftime
in case, they went down the score very quickly, and
then the rest of the game it was just kind
of like everybody just was like, yeah, we're I wanted
to give it like we're not, We're not going to
do this, and so you know, I thought, I was like, yeah,
this isn't. This isn't. Kind of I'm nervous to see
what happens with the team going forward. That I won't
say that Mike Gundies lost.
Speaker 4: Him by any means, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Won't say that, but the lack of effort shown makes
me think there might be something in that locker room
that the season's lost.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm afraid you might be right there.
Speaker 2: Or I'm gonna go with my hot take this week.
Speaker 1: I'll head to the SEC and I'm going to talk
about a team that lost, but actually give them a
bit of credit here, tom My hot take this week
is that it is way too early to write off Miss.
Miss lost at home to Kentucky, and Kentucky is playing
that spoiler role a bit almost beat Chargia a couple
of weeks ago, if Mark Stoops wouldn't have been a
dumb ass and punted when he had a chance to
go win the game on you know.
Speaker 2: Opponent's territory there.
Speaker 1: But I look at that Old Miss team and Tom,
I think one of the things that we're seeing that's
I think is gonna change with the playoff and where
the SEC and the Big Ten are headed, with being
these power conferences, that you're going to see college football
kind of turn into a week to week sport where
you're not gonna be able to play your best every
single week, and you're gonna have some letdowns and you're
gonna have teams that drastically improve us the season goes along.
I look at that Old Miss team. I like the
quarterback in Jackson Dart. I love Walter Nolan on that
defensive line, one of the best, if not the best
defensive lineman off college football. But they brought so many
players in from the portal that are just now playing
together and getting sync. I don't think that's a bad
loss in Kentucky. Kind of reminds me of the past
when we would see Oklahoma, you know, lay it egg
against a team like Kse State or Iowa State early
in the season and then get better as the year
went along. I think Old Miss, even with the lost Kentucky,
they're gonna be just fine. I could very well see
them even still in the SEC Championship game potentially. I
still think they're gonna be a playoff team. I'm not
writing off Ole Miss yet. I think that's too early
to do at this point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not riding off Ole Miss either.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, maybe they have to win a
game now that they otherwise kind of have a.
Speaker 4: Little bit as a scheduled loss. Yeah, you know, maybe
you have to win.
Speaker 3: Maybe now you have to go out and be like, okay,
well now we have to win this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you have to be Georgia now, right.
Speaker 4: Which you know, Kentucky should have, could have, would have
and and I don't.
Speaker 3: Think it's out of the realm with possibility that Ole
Miss could beat.
Speaker 1: Georgia and they get him at home too, So yeah,
I think I think you might be onto something there.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: As far as that goes a couple other topics before
we get to the slate of games this week. That
Alabama Georgia game. You and I both watched that Saturday night.
What a fantastic football game between those two teams, and
I thought it came down to the better quarterback. Jalen
Milroe outperformed Carson beck Back with the three turnovers. I
don't blame him for that last interception. That was an
incredible play by the Georgia defender there. But Milroe was fantastic.
Kalen de Boor his first big time game, and the
environment was awesome. It was loud there. Alabama is a
legit national title contender. The dynasty is not dead by
any stretch of the imagination. George is still a very
good football.
Speaker 4: Team like that.
Speaker 1: That was one of those games Tom where I had
no dog in that fight, no pun intended, But I
looked at that I said, Wow, these are two really
good teams that I don't think we saw for the
last time. I think they very well could play again
in the SEC title. We're playing the College football Playoff.
I think that was two of the very best. That
was just an outstanding college football game to watch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that game deserved five more minutes.
Speaker 3: As you, as your famous line goes, you could have
put they can put you back on the was it
st Claar billboard?
Speaker 2: Oh it was the Lamar billboard in Oklahoma City.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this game deserved five more minutes, It really did.
Speaker 2: I wasn't ready for that game to end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean yeah, I mean, you know, And
and for the whole first half, I was like, I
was I was watching because I to be fair, I
was kind of a joint watching Georgia get that ass kicked.
Speaker 2: Oh I was too. I never turned it off.
Speaker 3: And I thought I was like, Okay, maybe, you know,
just maybe we would see an all time blowout and
Kirby Smart just get completely embarrassed.
Speaker 4: And I was almost sure that it was going to happen. Yeah,
and it didn't.
Speaker 3: And it honestly, I don't think I don't think the
game gets I mean, everybody's talking about it, and it
had what the most had the best ratings. Of course
it was going to have the best ratings, But at
the same time, looking at that game, I still don't
think it gets enough credit on how good that game
ended up being.
Speaker 1: Yeah, twelve million people watch that game. Most watched college
football game this season by a mile. It was on
ESPN class it was Yeah, if you're playing that game
on College Football twenty five, you're getting an ESPN Classic,
you know, number one.
Speaker 2: You know, great game.
Speaker 1: And I look at those two two teams going forward
from here, I think Alabama's in great shape.
Speaker 2: They look so well rounded.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people were critical of Kaylin Debor, like, hey,
how did you let that lead slip away? They lost
the lead at one point in the fourth quarter, but
they still found a way to come back to win.
Speaker 2: I think Alabama's just fine.
Speaker 1: I will say though, not just because they lost, but
when you look at the tape, I think Georgia is
a good team, Don't get me wrong, Tom, but they
have so much work to do. That offensive line is
not up to snuff, the defensive line isn't up to snuff.
I think Carson Beck's got to cut down on the turnovers.
They gotta find some more playmakers here. George is still
a good team, but I don't think that Georgia is
as good as what they were in those national title
teams a couple of years ago. And honestly, they might
not be as good as what they were even last season.
The preseason number one team is very vulnerable.
Speaker 2: I think I.
Speaker 4: Think they are too.
Speaker 3: And you know, when you when you get into some
of these other SEC games, especially I don't know want
to take away from Kentucky from what they were able
to do and how close they were able to get,
but uh, they don't look you know, for the fast
hour of the years, they look just unbeatable, and now
they look like, Okay, well we can do this. Uh.
And and whenever they put up on tape against Alabama,
I think is gonna well somewhat haunt them as well.
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right about that as far as
that goes. Some other things I want to head on
here real quick. The Big Ten of the SEC talking
about a potential scheduling partnership to do some type of
challenge like we've seen, you know in college basketball with
the Big Twelve and.
Speaker 2: Big East, the ACC and the SEC do this.
Speaker 1: The Big Ten is saying we're only gonna do this
if the SEC goes to nine conference games though, which
is what the Big Ten plays. They played nine conference games. Uh, Tom,
I love this idea. Better matchups, it ensures everybody's gonna
play a top non conference opponent.
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued by this possibility.
Speaker 1: I think it makes both makes a ton of sense
for the two best conferences to do this, and especially
in this playoff era where you're can afford to lose
a game and still make the postseason.
Speaker 2: I think this would be a win for everybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: And the way the way that it's gonna end up happening,
we'll have bigger matchups you talked about, you know, maybe
more so I do, do you. I like the neutral
side games early you're on in the season, for sure,
later on in the season. I do think it needs
to come down to home at home. I think that's
where some things could change. I know it's a money thing,
big venue, big TV matchup game, but for the spirit
of college football, I think you have to you kind
of have to to let it be a home at
home eventually.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you could take like, for example, I
was at the USC LSU game in Vegas this year.
Speaker 2: Incredible environment, But how much better would that have.
Speaker 1: Been if you played that at Tiger Stadium or play
that at the coliseum and back to back years there's
not right.
Speaker 3: And I know that USC fans they get a lot
of flag. I think a handful would have shown up,
you know, in in Tiger Stadium. Yeah, had that game
been in the coliseum, LSU would have made the trip.
Those things would have made the trip. Absolutely.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know, I know there's not a whole lot
of rivalry corps but waiting those two leagues. But we
are talking about potentially that could be a way to
get oh you Nebraska back, that could get Nebraska Missouri
back into the fold. There's some very intriguing potential matchups
that that you could put together with with those two leagues.
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, and you know, we're talking about these
super leagues that could happen, and I think we're a
little ways off from that, to be honest. But uh,
there's so many other potential matchups that could happen that
it's it looks too good to you know, it's just.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, we we have to make this happen.
Speaker 3: Like there's too many money matchups on the line to say,
why not just.
Speaker 4: Get weird with it?
Speaker 5: Why not?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 3: I'm excited for what it's worth. Miami, interesting stature. You
talk about those matchups, well, not. I guess not SEC.
This isn't SEC Big ten, but just in how geographically
diverse the landscape has become. This is only strictly a
Big ten sir, sorry acc this well, I guess to
be fair, it doesn't even involve them, but the landscape
as a whole, I think has to be addressed. That Miami,
the trucker that drives their equipment has already drove twelve
twelve hundred miles and is not even close.
Speaker 4: To the University of cow Yeah, that can be.
Speaker 3: That can be the same thing for let's say, what
if Florida has to drive all the way to.
Speaker 4: Washington right like and and.
Speaker 3: That that's just off the top of my head, and
it's obviously cross country match the swamp as bad as
Florida is right now, the swamp is an all time location.
The Huskies have one of the better atmosphere, well atmosphere
and just view as a venue in.
Speaker 4: All of college football. Yeah, you could.
Speaker 3: You could make it interesting and say let's meet in
the middle and play an arrowhead right something like that.
That would be very interesting. But to do that, like
it the home and home. If you're a Florida fan,
sure you want to go. If I was a Florida
fan and they was to do a home at home,
I would say, yeah, I want to go to Washington
and see the Gators play in Washington. If I was
a Husky fan, I'm like, yeah, let's get away from
the cold rainy and let's go to the warm rainy
in Gainesville.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it's a brilliant idea.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Big Twelve and what's going on there, Tom,
you and I last week were sitting here saying, yeah,
it looks like it's it's setting up for Utah to
be in good shape. Can't rising coming back and you
just beat your toughest opponent. And then they have the
ulti let down against Arizona and the offense was so lethargic,
couldn't do anything right. They were at home, it was
at night game, and yet they still found a way
to lose there to Arizona there. And you know, the
Big Twelve standings are just all over the place right
with BYU and Iowa State atop and everything else from there.
But if you go to the analytics side, I think
it gets even more weird. Shout out Tim Walls for how.
Speaker 2: This is this is all looking right now. According to
the ESPN FPI right.
Speaker 1: Now, the Big twelve FPI as it stands, goes as follows.
K State one, Iowa State two, Colorado three four, os
U five, b YU five and O B YU six,
Utah seventh, TCU eighth, Arizona nine, Kansas ten, West Virginia eleven,
which is odd because West Virginia b Kansas, but I digress,
Texas Tech twelfth, Cincinnati thirteenth, Arizona State fourteenth, Baylor fifteenth,
and Houston sixteenth. I sit here today very befuddled after
Utah let us down last week. I'm not complaining about it, though,
I honestly do not know now how this league is
gonna shake out.
Speaker 2: Who the hell is gonna get to Arlington?
Speaker 1: What kind of tiebreakers are we going to have to
figure out to get there?
Speaker 4: Oh, it's gonna be stupid.
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a mess.
Speaker 3: I mean, we talked about tie breakers prior, and you know,
when everybody played everybody, And now I do feel like
what's gonna end up happening is one team's gonna get
screwed over. It always happens like that, right, Like a
team's gonna get screwed over that shouldn't have had a
harder schedule, that maybe had a better win, and we're
gonna be like, well, in any other year, this team would.
Speaker 4: Have made it, but they didn't. And that's just that's
just how the cookie fucking crumbles.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like, I feel like Tom that Utah and k State
are still the two best teams. We'll see when Cam
Rising comes back. If it's this week, you're supposed to
be two weeks ago. I feel like those are two
best teams. But I don't say that with any confidence at.
Speaker 4: All, oh anything. I mean how we've already seen it.
I didn't think they would. I don't.
Speaker 3: I didn't think the cannibalism would happen so fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've eaten each other alive. And we're six weeks in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's already it's already like okay, what like
what what's like?
Speaker 4: You know? And I mean take it for what you will.
I don't thing.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: We're not you know, we're not some super collegiate college
football analysts.
Speaker 4: To be fair, Vegas, I.
Speaker 3: Think made a lot of money with Colorado winning this
weekend this past weekend.
Speaker 4: I think they made a ship ton.
Speaker 3: Of money and I don't know, only only some, only
some very college football devians either wanted to see that
happen or knew it was going to happen. And saying that,
I think we follow it enough that I think we
have a decent informed opinion. Right, we might not be
the best, but I think I like to think that
we have a decent hypothetical like hypothetical guess on who's
gonna win and why?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we were wrong, Well a lot of people
were wrong.
Speaker 1: And here's one more thing I'll wrap up before we
get to our get to the slate for both leagues
real quick. A tough pill to swallow, I think when
it comes to the Big Twelve that I hate to admit.
But the big reason I think that the league is
in the shape it is of being unpredictable is the
lly is there's not a great team in this league,
and I think there's less good teams than we initially
thought as well, like BYU and Iowa State, it's only
a matter of time before they get caught up in
all this. Utah and k State, I think you're still
the two best teams. They've already lost, but if they
make the playoff, are they really going to do anything.
They might win a game, they might win two games,
but that's just about it. I mean, I think what
you're seeing is that this league is a whole bunch
of good teams and no one great team that's cannibalizing itself.
Speaker 3: Right And and some people say, well, cam Rising wasn't out.
Utah really had no reason to lose against Arizona. No,
and definitely not in that fashion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if they had something on tape.
Speaker 3: Like I'm not so convinced that Arizona is just so
well coached, you know, no Jeff Booth anymore. And I'm
not saying their coach is bad now, But if Arizona
State went out and beat Arizona, I wouldn't necessarily be
completely shocked, right, Like, right, we thought that Arizona was
pretty decent and that they could have a good year
because their.
Speaker 4: Quarterback and all worldwide receiver.
Speaker 3: But it wasn't going to be hell or high water
for them to lose a couple of games.
Speaker 1: Let's let's go over the sleigh a Big twelve at
SEC Games for this week. Let's start with the Big
twelve TCU taking got in Houston. They're at home. They're
six sixteen and a half point favorites. TCU is coming
off what is it down two straight losses here Houston.
We saw them give O you a bit of a
scare a couple of weeks ago. This is quite the
reality check for TCU here. They I know they're big
favorite sixteen and a halftime, but they they got to
figure it out fast, because I think Houston will be
a tougher test that people think.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: Give me, I'll disagree, I'll disagree. Give me TCU big
Houston got goose egged in the past two weeks. They
haven't scored a single point in over like ten quarters,
and I think that can I don't think TCU goose
eggs Houston won because I in some weird way, I
kind of like TCU Houston is a potential rivalry. You've
got fort Worth.
Speaker 2: They have history, they were in the Southwest Conference together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I like that as a potential kind
of a.
Speaker 4: I don't know of.
Speaker 3: Hey, we'll keep it nice for a certain time, but
when we play each other, hey, man, it's fuck you,
like fuck Houston, fuck I.
Speaker 4: Mean fort Worth.
Speaker 3: I know that that TCU probably doesn't want to like
somewhat claim Dallas.
Speaker 4: I get that, especially because of s m U. But
it's it's not called d f W. It's not called
just f W. It's not called D like they're I
won't call them one and the same. But at the
same time, Dallas and Houston somewhat hate each.
Speaker 3: Other in a way because of the bigger cities. Yeah,
San Antonio hates Houston. And Okay, give me TCU bout
twenty one Oklahoma State West Virginia. You picked West Virginia earlier.
I'll take os U. I don't feel confident about it
at all.
Speaker 2: By three.
Speaker 1: For me, the difference is that OSU has the best
player on the football field. This is this is gonna
need to be the Ali Gordon experience. I think that's
the difference in this ballgame toime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't think West Virginia doesn't have that
that big defensive.
Speaker 4: Line in them anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah sils, Yeah, I think that could be. That could
be pretty big. They I will say OSHU was able
to run on k State for the first quarter and
a half, they got away from it. That's what I
told you. This is the game that West Virginia wins
by ten. And this is the straw that breaks the
camel's back, and Casey Dunnan is left out on the
green grass.
Speaker 2: Iowa State taking on Baylor.
Speaker 1: Iowa State twelve point favorites at home, got to shut
out win against Houston last week, as we mentioned, and
this Baylor team. I'm not a fan of Miranda, but
they do have some talent there. And Iowa State now
thinking that, hey, we can go win the Big Twelve.
We're ranked in the top twenty, ranked sixteenth. This this
smells potential trap game. I think this is a good
test to see where Iowa State's at right now. Especially
you know, we're talking about Matt Campbell. He's usually not
great in the month of September that they own the
month of October. Let's see what they do now with.
Speaker 2: This one here. I expect I was State. I was
State to win, but I think we're talking about a
close game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it could be pretty close.
Speaker 3: And you know Baylor, I think I think Baylor hasn't
been as bad as people expected them to be, but
they're still not great.
Speaker 2: You seef taking on Florida.
Speaker 1: That game at Florida, you seef, We mentioned h did
not look great last week against Colorado. You seef going
on on the road Florida on the brink of firing
Billy Dapier. It seems any day now. Florida I think
is a horrible football team UCF. This is a statement game.
There's a lot of pride on the line for them
to go into Gainesville here. I like UCF to win
by at least a touchdown in this one. Tom and
that might be sid r for Billy Dapier.
Speaker 3: I'm very interested in how Molzahn bounces back. He's no
stranger to play in Florida by any means. You know,
you go on the road in Gainesville. For what it's worth.
After UCF let me down this past week, I'm gonna
take Florida.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a night game in the swamp. You see
f favor by two and a half. Kansas and Arizona State.
We talked about this a little bit earlier. I'm going
to this game. I was not expecting to sit here
at the month of October Kansas to be underdogs at
Arizona State.
Speaker 2: But here we are.
Speaker 1: We've reached that point, Arizona State surprising a lot of people.
Three and one, I told you it was coming with
Kenny Dillingham that he's the real deal. Kansas underdogs, Kansas
more talented team, But I don't know if they're the
better coach team. And that's not an indictment on Land's lighthole,
it's indictment on his coordinators. Jeff Grimes isn't doing a
good job. Bran Borlan's not doing a good job as
a defensive coordinator either. I lean towards Ku, but zero
confidence in the Hawks to win this one. On paper,
they win this one blowing away, but coaching is holding
them back so much right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you're in this. You're in the same
boat as a fan than I am.
Speaker 3: And I mean I think that that Jeff Grimes and
Casey dun should run off to get together and just
disappear for the safety of college football.
Speaker 2: That'd be great.
Speaker 1: Texas Tech taking out of Arizona. I don't buy Texas
Tech being a four to one team. They are completing
total frauds. The offense looked fantastic last week, that defense
is horrible. Arizona gotta win they needed. I love what
I saw from Noah Fafieda, by the way, some of
the passes he was throwing. I was watching that game
and I said to myself, Tom, that's an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 2: I love Faffieda.
Speaker 1: They're at home against this tech team. Give me Arizona
by at least two scores.
Speaker 4: I like Arizona too. I think they build off of
that Utah win.
Speaker 3: I think when we talk about just wins from week
to week, I think that a team like Arizona can
really build off of wins like that. And I think
that it had been a season defining win that didn't
look too good for them, and you know now they
beat Utah, a team that we thought was gonna go undefeated.
I think you take that momentum and keep riding that way.
Speaker 2: Waking on Texas, A and M. Miszoo is four to
zero as.
Speaker 1: We begin the SEC slate and they're underdogs at A
and M. Here A and M's one loss was a
close game to Notre Dame. They did pull it off
last week against Arkansas, close win against Bowling Green, beat
Florida on the road by two scores.
Speaker 2: This is total trap, bad spot for Miszoo. I think
Miszoo gets exposed.
Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards A and M take care of business
at home here is two and a half point favorite.
Speaker 3: I see Miszoo a lot like I saw in some way.
I saw them kind of like in Iowa last year.
I'm gonna take Missou here.
Speaker 2: Woa. Okay, Georgia take it on Auburn.
Speaker 1: Georgia trying to bounce back off that lost to Alabama
last week. Auburn, I watched that entire game against ou.
Peyton Thorn is a terrible quarterback. That offense is disgusting
to watch. I think Hugh Freeze is getting exposed. Uh,
this is a horrible spot. It's a rivalry game. Georgia
twenty four point favorites. I like Georgia and to win
this one ugly. I mean, this could not have come
at a worst Georgia. This could not have come at
a worse time for Auburn to be facing Georgia here
at Georgia two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you you should have been against so you
should have had it won. You don't have a line
at all.
Speaker 4: This is gonna get up. It's gonna get ugly.
Speaker 1: Ole miss taking out South Carolina. South Carolina I think
is a decent team. At three and one, they've been
one of the biggest surprises of the year in the
sec Ole Miss looking to rebound off that game against
Kentucky last week, We're gonna find out what Lane Kiffin
has cooked up for this team. We mentioned that I
think this is a team that's gonna get better as
the year goes along. But they can't be open around
too much after that loss to Kentucky because I think
this is uh, this is a very interesting test to
see how they respot after that loss to go on
the road against a decent South Carolina team. I leaned
towards Old Miss, but I think South Carolina can make
this interesting like they did against LSU a few weeks ago.
Speaker 3: I think they will too, and I do lean towards
you know, I do lean towards Old Miss for sure.
I think they rebound, not in the same way Georgia
will do, but I do lean towards them, But it could,
It could get interesting.
Speaker 4: South Carolina is a lot better than the record shows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bama taking on Vandy in Nashville gonna be basically
a home game for Bama. Bama coming in off that win.
We've seen Vandy, though, have some moments they surprise everybody.
Beating Virginia Tech Week one, I think Bama crushes the
hell out of Vandy, and you know that they'll look fantastic.
But I think if you if you're BAM here, you
still have to say to yourselves, we we can't let
it sink in, can't let that rat poison get to
us after beating beating Georgia last week, because because Vandy
I think is much better than any of us anticipated,
like they're they're this is their super Bowl here, Like
you can't go in with that rat poison after that
performance we saw last week.
Speaker 3: No, and to be fair, I don't think they will,
you know, I think I think it does definitely have
potential for a.
Speaker 4: Letdown game or a hangover type situation.
Speaker 1: But I'm not touching this game of Bama favored by
twenty three, I'm not betting no.
Speaker 4: No, I think Bama probably wins by like fifteen.
Speaker 1: Tennessee taking out Arkansas, very good rivalry game. This game
gonna be in primetime in Fayetteville, Arkansas. Coming off a
lost to Texas A and M very close last week.
Tennessee their first games since the buye against OU. I
said this last week, I wasn't too impressed with Tennessee's offense.
Against OU. To be honest, I expected more out of
Niko in company Arkansas with with Green. You saw at
first hand what they did against OSU. They got a
pretty good offense. They're at home here. I think Tennessee wins,
but I think Arkansas can keep it close.
Speaker 4: I think they will too. I mean, Arkansas is no
Junke to play.
Speaker 3: I mean they've I feel like they've kind of had
a rougher season, to be honest, Like if it wasn't
for Sam Pittman and I like me some old cold beer,
if it wasn't for him, I think they'd have a
lot better record.
Speaker 4: He's not He's a great person. I feel like he's
just not a great coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right about.
Speaker 3: And when they find the right coach, whether that be
old Bobby Patrine, now, I think it's going to get
very interesting.
Speaker 2: There you have.
Speaker 1: That is our big twelve and SEC breakdown for this week.
Speaker 2: Morning. Com Stay with us, join us now the program
this week.
Speaker 1: Please to welcome in from Fox four News in Kansas City.
It is our good friend John Holt who is here
with us, who I will be seeing in just a
few hours from right now, is. We're heading off to
Phoenix to see the Jayhawks take on the Arizona State
sun Devils, and John Holt joins us right now.
Speaker 2: Johnny Ray, always a pleasure.
Speaker 1: The chance we get to chat, my friend, so much
going on. I know the Hawks aren't playing too great
right now, but yeah, about those Royals and Chiefs, we'll.
Speaker 2: Get to them later. I mentioned, thanks are good, How
are you, my friend?
Speaker 6: You know, all is good if you're a sports fan
in the Kansas City area, particularly professional sports when it
comes to college. Of course, the big three here Missouri
to the east, KU and k State to the west.
You know, it's funny you and I've talked about this
trip here for some time, heading down to the Valley
of the Sun. I think we both thought KAU might
be five and oh or four on one. Yeah, and
it would have cooled off a little in the Phoenix area,
and neither is the case.
Speaker 5: So but you know what, we're gonna go.
Speaker 6: We're gonna have fun and hopefully the Jayhawks come back
with their second win of the season. I did get
to see both of the Stoker Field meet up. Sporting
k C kind enough to host the Jayhawks for their
non conference two of their non conference games, and I
saw the first win, and then I was there for
the UNLV loss to a quarterback who decided he wanted
a pay raise or wasn't getting paid enough or at.
Speaker 5: What he was being promised, depends on who you talked to.
Speaker 6: But anyway, UNLV, you know, we were all there at
that game and we.
Speaker 5: Were all like, yeah, this is just crazy.
Speaker 6: Now we're one and two at that time, but we
were thinking, yeah, I guess if you had to pick
a pick, you'd rather win the bowl game, which were
at last, you know, December. So yeah, but still it
was not a good win. And then of course now
they're one and four. After the loss to TCU, I
did not get to go to the first Arrowhead game.
Speaker 5: I was kind of disappointed at a wedding of a
good friend that night, so I had to miss that game.
Speaker 6: But I should be able to get back out there
for the final three.
Speaker 1: So I got to know, with this trip planned and everything,
and your luggage, are you finding a way to bring
the cooler out to Tempe?
Speaker 2: Is it traveling with you?
Speaker 5: The little Red Cooler? In fact, the Little Red Cooler
was not happy with me last week. For those who
don't know. I have this old.
Speaker 6: Coalman cooler that I literally have been using for tailgates
probably over three decades.
Speaker 5: And this is not a yetty. This doesn't have wheels.
Speaker 6: It's old school, right, and it's I just I use
it as a matter of principle because it's just old school,
and I know.
Speaker 5: You're familiar with it.
Speaker 6: You've enjoyed a cool adult beverage or two out of it.
It will not make the trip we're carrying on. We're
going to make this as an efficient trip as possible.
Speaker 5: We don't have to. You can pack light.
Speaker 6: If it's going to be one hundred and five degrees,
you don't have to, you know, pack the sweaters and
the sweatshirts. So that'll make it easy. But looking forward
to getting back out to the Phoenix area. Have a
lot of friends out there, and a lot of Jayhawks
are coming in. I think my flight tomorrow will be packed.
I was texting with a friend who's already there today.
Their flight was packed with Jayhawks. I think a lot
of people just looked at the schedule and went, you
know what, this will be the first road game against
the conference foe and Arizona State's new let's head out
to Tempe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm still excited about it, even with as
much as this team has struggled as of light. Hopefully
this is the beginning of things turning around from here.
Speaker 2: Do you have a tailgate plan yet? Do you know
where you're going to be before the game or anything yet?
Speaker 5: Don't? I mean, this is a whole new venue for us.
Speaker 6: I understand the KEYU Alumni Association is planning an event
at a bar near the stadium. One of my friends
who were meeting out there is kind of coordinating that
it's open to the public. It's not a ticketed event,
but uh, you know, so it's just basically.
Speaker 5: An open sports bar.
Speaker 6: But I've never been to Arizona State other than just
when we were out there covering the Chiefs in the
Super Bowl a couple of years ago, just driving through
the campus. We stayed in Tempee, but really didn't venture
down to the stadium at all. That's where the Chiefs
practiced actually, but never got down there. Uh, so this
will be this will be a new, a new experience.
I hear it's beautiful. Obviously, stadium setting will be fantastic.
So I'm looking forward to just kind of I love
going to these new venues, these new particularly the new
conference venues. You know, I'm looking forward to getting back
out the Boulder. We've been to Boulder a couple of
times back in the good old days. But gosh, u
c F in Orlando will be fun. Arizona and Tucson,
I say fun. We'll see, you know, it depends on
how the you know, the how the whether or not
the Jayhawks continue the growth in football or digress.
Speaker 5: I think they're going to continue to grow.
Speaker 6: Who knows what's going on right now, but there are
factors in play, but just got to turn the offensive
ship around and the defense needs to be able to
hold on to a lead.
Speaker 5: When you get to the fourth corps, what.
Speaker 1: Do you think is the problem right now? What is
wrong with this team? Or maybe a number of issues.
I know Jalen's not playing good. A lot of people
were putting the finger at the coaching staff with Grimes
and Borland the coordinators here. What do you think the
big issues that's holding this team back?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 6: I think maybe, first of all, I think I've worried
about this all offseason. Expectations were very high, right and
there was talk of being a CFP contender, maybe playing
in the conference championship game in Dallas, And I kept
reminding myself, boy, you know we've had we've seen growth.
We won a bowl game last year, nine games, nine
win season, which was exciting, but you know, baby steps, right.
Jalen was struggled last year, only got in three games.
Was thrilled to have him come back. But now you
have a new offensive coordinator, you have a new offensive line,
you have.
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of new factors that play in
play there. So I don't I don't know.
Speaker 6: Was caught a little bit off guard by the comments
by Grimes at his press conference last week. I think
it was where he mentioned that not having a JD
around during the off season was maybe a factor. And
I'm not an insider by any means, don't know what
that means. There were a lot of scratch scratch heads,
I guess at the news conference. I'm not quite clear.
Was that a chemistry thing. Was was Jalen off getting
more treatment? Was he just off having fun?
Speaker 5: Who knows?
Speaker 6: But hopefully they'll get this ship together. I mean, he's talented,
we know he can play. How much of this is
a new coordinator trying new things.
Speaker 5: How much of it is new offensive protectors.
Speaker 6: On the line, you still have, you know, two of
the top running backs in the country who are proving
that when they get the ball, they can make things happen.
Speaker 5: The receiving corps a little bit thinner.
Speaker 6: Fair Child's gone, that was a go to guy, but
you know, gosh, they still have guys who can catch
the football.
Speaker 5: So you know, let's write the ship in Tempe this week.
Speaker 6: And you get a road win in conference, and that
can really build your confidence. So we'll hope for something
like that. Arizona State has had its own.
Speaker 5: Struggles, but they've had two weeks to get ready.
Speaker 6: You know, they had that bye week after losing to
Texas tex So they'll be ready. And the weather's going
to be warm, we know that. So hopefully the Jayhawks
high rate and are in good condition.
Speaker 2: Hopefully so.
Speaker 1: And you know, I look ahead to this game here
and I'm sitting here saying to myself, John, like you know,
you look at on paper, Kansas is a much more
talented team than Arizona State. But Arizona State has played
above their potential and their coach, Kenny Dillingham, has done
such a good job. I wonder. I don't know the
answer right now. What is going to be the end
all be all? The difference in this game is that
does Arizona play above their talent level?
Speaker 2: Are they better coached?
Speaker 1: Or does Kansas put it together and finally play to
their potential here To me, I think this could one
way or another could be a turning point.
Speaker 2: In the season for this Kansas team, depending on the result.
Speaker 6: It could because the road doesn't get any easier right
as you move forward, So you'd like to get a
woman here where you can.
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't want to suggest that KU's going
to be out coached.
Speaker 6: I think we know the Lance life wholeland and Lance
we trust, right, but you know that there is a
there is a newness when you have to look up
in the in the coordinating boxes.
Speaker 5: Uh, so we'll see. I mean, I'm.
Speaker 6: Hopeful, fingers crossed that this is a turning point allows
them to build some confidence. I think, Kay, you had
better talent in their other losses too, right, I mean,
I think you can go down the list, you could
say that, and yet they just haven't been able to
put it together.
Speaker 5: Is something going on there that we're not.
Speaker 6: Privy to maybe, but hopefully, you know, the coaches are
working on it, the team chemistry builds, and JD puts
together a game this weekend that is more of what
we expect and what we've come to expect from him.
He only played three games last year. The layoff may
have may have hurt h So we'll see. But I'm
looking forward to getting down there and taking in the atmosphere,
and I know.
Speaker 5: They'll be ready for it.
Speaker 6: They've had two weeks to get ready, so hopefully the
Jayhawks respond.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Certainly looking forward to seeing you out there and join
ourselves this.
Speaker 2: Weekend in Phoenix.
Speaker 1: John, for sure, time is always looking forward to seeing
you here in a few hours in Phoenix.
Speaker 2: Will certainly have a great time and we'll talk in
down the line.
Speaker 5: You're getting there before I do, so you know, save
some of the fun for me. I'll be down there.
Speaker 2: I'll have a beverage for you when I get there.
Speaker 5: Okay, there you go hydrate though it's gonna be hot.