1 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: It is the Big twelve SEC breakdown to Jell's topmans 2 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,520 Bridge is here with you with a comprehensive look around 3 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,479 the Big twelve and the SEC. We begin as we 4 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,840 do each and every week, with our hot takes. Tom, 5 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,039 I'll let you start. Do you want to go with this? 6 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:02,679 Which which league? 7 00:01:02,799 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: And which team do you want to draw your attention to? 8 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: You know, oh, you and Texas are both off this week, 9 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,560 so I don't really want to touch on them very much, 10 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,799 which kind of leads me back to and nobody said. 11 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,879 Nobody said anything. I don't think anybody's gonna say anything. 12 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,400 I will have to eat crow for my UCF pick 13 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,680 last week. I did not expect Colorado to walk in 14 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,519 Orlando and did what they did this past weekend. And 15 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,400 to be fair, I don't think a whole lot of 16 00:01:37,439 --> 00:01:39,719 people also saw that coming. 17 00:01:39,879 --> 00:01:43,239 Speaker 1: So were double digit dogs, and they ended up winning 18 00:01:43,239 --> 00:01:48,519 that game by double digits themselves on the road in 19 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,799 a great atmosphere at the Bounce House. They looked great 20 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,040 and they're at four wins now. They've already matched last 21 00:01:57,079 --> 00:02:03,079 year's win total. I mean borring and collapse here. Colorado 22 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,200 is gonna be a bold team with a winning record, 23 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,400 and that's a very good UCF team they beat. Like 24 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,319 I hate to admit it, I hate to give Colorado 25 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,319 credit here, but that was a job well done. Like 26 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,719 they're not going down without a fight, and I think 27 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,439 Shador looks fantastic and Travis Hunter should be the Heisman favorite, 28 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:25,759 I believe me. 29 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: I hate giving them credit, but credit with credits do. 30 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:32,159 Speaker 3: I mean we also said that, you know, we also, 31 00:02:32,319 --> 00:02:35,080 I mean we've had some cold takes over the years, 32 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,719 but this is one of the coldest. I feel like 33 00:02:36,759 --> 00:02:42,599 we were like, you know, UCF and UCF Utah could 34 00:02:42,599 --> 00:02:46,159 be undefeated and meet each other, and then the way 35 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:52,560 that they played, Oh, it was horrible, guy, it was horrible. 36 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,719 Utah law you know, Utah ended up losing. Now the 37 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:02,479 Mormons are in, you know, set for potential Arlington trip. 38 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,560 I don't know, and I'm gonna just I'm gonna be 39 00:03:05,599 --> 00:03:09,879 superstitious here and doing this, and this is where I'm 40 00:03:09,879 --> 00:03:12,840 going for the Big twelve breakdown. I think West Virginia 41 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,080 beats o issue this weekend in still Water, and I 42 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,639 think the Camel, I think the straw that breaks the 43 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:23,719 Camel's back is Neil Brown winning in still Water. What 44 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,400 I now I think this, if they win this week 45 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,800 and still Water will be two years in a row. 46 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:32,879 Speaker 4: I think that West Virginia would win in still Water. 47 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,039 Speaker 3: And I think the straw that breaks the camel's back 48 00:03:37,039 --> 00:03:40,360 for Casey Dunn is Neil Brown getting the dub in 49 00:03:40,479 --> 00:03:44,280 still Water. So I'm gonna use the reverse psychology and 50 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,960 I'm gonna say West Virginia wins by ten this weekend 51 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:48,560 in still Water. 52 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,479 Speaker 1: Our guys at Heartland are just now calling for Casey 53 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,400 Dunn to be fired. I'm like, where you guys been. 54 00:03:55,639 --> 00:03:58,439 We've been saying this for how long? For a couple 55 00:03:58,479 --> 00:04:03,439 of years, right, And you know I would say in 56 00:04:03,479 --> 00:04:06,560 the Big twelve tom as somebody that's experienced this firsthand, 57 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,280 even just a couple of weeks ago. We have dogged 58 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,599 on Neil Brown so much, and I don't think he's 59 00:04:12,599 --> 00:04:13,520 a very good coach. 60 00:04:13,639 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: I thought he should have been fired a long. 61 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,199 Speaker 1: Time ago, but he somehow always ends up in the 62 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,480 right place in the right time. 63 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:23,639 Speaker 2: And there's nothing. 64 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:28,439 Speaker 1: More humiliating, nothing more embarrassing I feel, than to lose 65 00:04:28,519 --> 00:04:32,000 to a Neil Brown coach team. And that's what Kansas 66 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,240 went through a couple of weeks ago, and Oklahoma State's 67 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,920 got their work cut out for them to avoid that 68 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:38,480 this week. 69 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it happens to him, and I think, 70 00:04:44,079 --> 00:04:47,959 and I'm to be fair and I'm a little biased, obviously, 71 00:04:48,759 --> 00:04:53,160 I'm nervous for that. After the third quarter, would noue 72 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,560 went three and out on the first drive after halftime 73 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,120 in case, they went down the score very quickly, and 74 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,079 then the rest of the game it was just kind 75 00:05:02,079 --> 00:05:04,480 of like everybody just was like, yeah, we're I wanted 76 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,360 to give it like we're not, We're not going to 77 00:05:07,439 --> 00:05:13,040 do this, and so you know, I thought, I was like, yeah, 78 00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:18,199 this isn't. This isn't. Kind of I'm nervous to see 79 00:05:18,319 --> 00:05:23,920 what happens with the team going forward. That I won't 80 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,839 say that Mike Gundies lost. 81 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,759 Speaker 4: Him by any means, Yeah, I. 82 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:35,319 Speaker 3: Won't say that, but the lack of effort shown makes 83 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,560 me think there might be something in that locker room 84 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,639 that the season's lost. 85 00:05:40,319 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm afraid you might be right there. 86 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,879 Speaker 2: Or I'm gonna go with my hot take this week. 87 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,519 Speaker 1: I'll head to the SEC and I'm going to talk 88 00:05:49,519 --> 00:05:52,120 about a team that lost, but actually give them a 89 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,600 bit of credit here, tom My hot take this week 90 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:01,040 is that it is way too early to write off Miss. 91 00:06:02,079 --> 00:06:07,560 Miss lost at home to Kentucky, and Kentucky is playing 92 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,160 that spoiler role a bit almost beat Chargia a couple 93 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,959 of weeks ago, if Mark Stoops wouldn't have been a 94 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,160 dumb ass and punted when he had a chance to 95 00:06:15,199 --> 00:06:17,639 go win the game on you know. 96 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: Opponent's territory there. 97 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,439 Speaker 1: But I look at that Old Miss team and Tom, 98 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,240 I think one of the things that we're seeing that's 99 00:06:25,639 --> 00:06:28,279 I think is gonna change with the playoff and where 100 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,319 the SEC and the Big Ten are headed, with being 101 00:06:31,399 --> 00:06:36,600 these power conferences, that you're going to see college football 102 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,839 kind of turn into a week to week sport where 103 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,839 you're not gonna be able to play your best every 104 00:06:42,879 --> 00:06:45,879 single week, and you're gonna have some letdowns and you're 105 00:06:45,879 --> 00:06:49,439 gonna have teams that drastically improve us the season goes along. 106 00:06:50,079 --> 00:06:51,879 I look at that Old Miss team. I like the 107 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,439 quarterback in Jackson Dart. I love Walter Nolan on that 108 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,120 defensive line, one of the best, if not the best 109 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,879 defensive lineman off college football. But they brought so many 110 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,360 players in from the portal that are just now playing 111 00:07:06,399 --> 00:07:09,120 together and getting sync. I don't think that's a bad 112 00:07:09,199 --> 00:07:11,720 loss in Kentucky. Kind of reminds me of the past 113 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,639 when we would see Oklahoma, you know, lay it egg 114 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,600 against a team like Kse State or Iowa State early 115 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,040 in the season and then get better as the year 116 00:07:20,079 --> 00:07:23,360 went along. I think Old Miss, even with the lost Kentucky, 117 00:07:23,439 --> 00:07:25,680 they're gonna be just fine. I could very well see 118 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,680 them even still in the SEC Championship game potentially. I 119 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,240 still think they're gonna be a playoff team. I'm not 120 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,839 writing off Ole Miss yet. I think that's too early 121 00:07:35,879 --> 00:07:36,959 to do at this point. 122 00:07:37,879 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not riding off Ole Miss either. 123 00:07:40,519 --> 00:07:43,079 Speaker 3: I think, you know, maybe they have to win a 124 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,319 game now that they otherwise kind of have a. 125 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,079 Speaker 4: Little bit as a scheduled loss. Yeah, you know, maybe 126 00:07:50,079 --> 00:07:50,600 you have to win. 127 00:07:50,879 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: Maybe now you have to go out and be like, okay, 128 00:07:52,959 --> 00:07:54,319 well now we have to win this game. 129 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you have to be Georgia now, right. 130 00:07:58,079 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: Which you know, Kentucky should have, could have, would have 131 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,480 and and I don't. 132 00:08:04,279 --> 00:08:08,319 Speaker 3: Think it's out of the realm with possibility that Ole 133 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,240 Miss could beat. 134 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:16,079 Speaker 1: Georgia and they get him at home too, So yeah, 135 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,480 I think I think you might be onto something there. 136 00:08:18,839 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: Uh. 137 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: As far as that goes a couple other topics before 138 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,040 we get to the slate of games this week. That 139 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,480 Alabama Georgia game. You and I both watched that Saturday night. 140 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:33,440 What a fantastic football game between those two teams, and 141 00:08:34,519 --> 00:08:37,679 I thought it came down to the better quarterback. Jalen 142 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,440 Milroe outperformed Carson beck Back with the three turnovers. I 143 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,559 don't blame him for that last interception. That was an 144 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:50,799 incredible play by the Georgia defender there. But Milroe was fantastic. 145 00:08:51,759 --> 00:08:55,720 Kalen de Boor his first big time game, and the 146 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,519 environment was awesome. It was loud there. Alabama is a 147 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,200 legit national title contender. The dynasty is not dead by 148 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,200 any stretch of the imagination. George is still a very 149 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,320 good football. 150 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 4: Team like that. 151 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: That was one of those games Tom where I had 152 00:09:10,879 --> 00:09:14,600 no dog in that fight, no pun intended, But I 153 00:09:14,639 --> 00:09:17,120 looked at that I said, Wow, these are two really 154 00:09:17,159 --> 00:09:20,399 good teams that I don't think we saw for the 155 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,879 last time. I think they very well could play again 156 00:09:22,919 --> 00:09:26,039 in the SEC title. We're playing the College football Playoff. 157 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,759 I think that was two of the very best. That 158 00:09:27,879 --> 00:09:29,840 was just an outstanding college football game to watch. 159 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that game deserved five more minutes. 160 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:36,519 Speaker 3: As you, as your famous line goes, you could have 161 00:09:36,519 --> 00:09:40,000 put they can put you back on the was it 162 00:09:40,039 --> 00:09:41,840 st Claar billboard? 163 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: Oh it was the Lamar billboard in Oklahoma City. 164 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:48,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, this game deserved five more minutes, It really did. 165 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: I wasn't ready for that game to end. 166 00:09:51,919 --> 00:09:55,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean yeah, I mean, you know, And 167 00:09:55,639 --> 00:09:58,440 and for the whole first half, I was like, I 168 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,240 was I was watching because I to be fair, I 169 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,759 was kind of a joint watching Georgia get that ass kicked. 170 00:10:04,879 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: Oh I was too. I never turned it off. 171 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,279 Speaker 3: And I thought I was like, Okay, maybe, you know, 172 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,240 just maybe we would see an all time blowout and 173 00:10:17,759 --> 00:10:20,840 Kirby Smart just get completely embarrassed. 174 00:10:21,879 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: And I was almost sure that it was going to happen. Yeah, 175 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:28,960 and it didn't. 176 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,279 Speaker 3: And it honestly, I don't think I don't think the 177 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,320 game gets I mean, everybody's talking about it, and it 178 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,399 had what the most had the best ratings. Of course 179 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:42,159 it was going to have the best ratings, But at 180 00:10:42,159 --> 00:10:46,759 the same time, looking at that game, I still don't 181 00:10:46,799 --> 00:10:49,360 think it gets enough credit on how good that game 182 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:50,120 ended up being. 183 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, twelve million people watch that game. Most watched college 184 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:58,840 football game this season by a mile. It was on 185 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,799 ESPN class it was Yeah, if you're playing that game 186 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,799 on College Football twenty five, you're getting an ESPN Classic, 187 00:11:05,879 --> 00:11:06,639 you know, number one. 188 00:11:06,799 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: You know, great game. 189 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: And I look at those two two teams going forward 190 00:11:12,879 --> 00:11:16,080 from here, I think Alabama's in great shape. 191 00:11:16,879 --> 00:11:18,799 Speaker 2: They look so well rounded. 192 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people were critical of Kaylin Debor, like, hey, 193 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,240 how did you let that lead slip away? They lost 194 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:27,279 the lead at one point in the fourth quarter, but 195 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:28,799 they still found a way to come back to win. 196 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: I think Alabama's just fine. 197 00:11:30,759 --> 00:11:35,159 Speaker 1: I will say though, not just because they lost, but 198 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,000 when you look at the tape, I think Georgia is 199 00:11:38,039 --> 00:11:40,759 a good team, Don't get me wrong, Tom, but they 200 00:11:40,799 --> 00:11:43,919 have so much work to do. That offensive line is 201 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,960 not up to snuff, the defensive line isn't up to snuff. 202 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:51,279 I think Carson Beck's got to cut down on the turnovers. 203 00:11:51,519 --> 00:11:54,399 They gotta find some more playmakers here. George is still 204 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:57,799 a good team, but I don't think that Georgia is 205 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,440 as good as what they were in those national title 206 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,840 teams a couple of years ago. And honestly, they might 207 00:12:02,879 --> 00:12:05,559 not be as good as what they were even last season. 208 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:09,159 The preseason number one team is very vulnerable. 209 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: I think I. 210 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:11,879 Speaker 4: Think they are too. 211 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 3: And you know, when you when you get into some 212 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,840 of these other SEC games, especially I don't know want 213 00:12:18,879 --> 00:12:22,440 to take away from Kentucky from what they were able 214 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:25,080 to do and how close they were able to get, 215 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,679 but uh, they don't look you know, for the fast 216 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,919 hour of the years, they look just unbeatable, and now 217 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,919 they look like, Okay, well we can do this. Uh. 218 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,799 And and whenever they put up on tape against Alabama, 219 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,600 I think is gonna well somewhat haunt them as well. 220 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: I think so. 221 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,519 Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right about that as far as 222 00:12:48,519 --> 00:12:52,360 that goes. Some other things I want to head on 223 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,399 here real quick. The Big Ten of the SEC talking 224 00:12:56,399 --> 00:13:01,559 about a potential scheduling partnership to do some type of 225 00:13:01,799 --> 00:13:06,840 challenge like we've seen, you know in college basketball with 226 00:13:06,879 --> 00:13:07,600 the Big Twelve and. 227 00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:10,519 Speaker 2: Big East, the ACC and the SEC do this. 228 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,799 Speaker 1: The Big Ten is saying we're only gonna do this 229 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,200 if the SEC goes to nine conference games though, which 230 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,799 is what the Big Ten plays. They played nine conference games. Uh, Tom, 231 00:13:22,919 --> 00:13:27,720 I love this idea. Better matchups, it ensures everybody's gonna 232 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,159 play a top non conference opponent. 233 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: I'm intrigued by this possibility. 234 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: I think it makes both makes a ton of sense 235 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,960 for the two best conferences to do this, and especially 236 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,960 in this playoff era where you're can afford to lose 237 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,399 a game and still make the postseason. 238 00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: I think this would be a win for everybody. 239 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. 240 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: And the way the way that it's gonna end up happening, 241 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,639 we'll have bigger matchups you talked about, you know, maybe 242 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,320 more so I do, do you. I like the neutral 243 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:01,600 side games early you're on in the season, for sure, 244 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,639 later on in the season. I do think it needs 245 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:07,039 to come down to home at home. I think that's 246 00:14:07,039 --> 00:14:09,639 where some things could change. I know it's a money thing, 247 00:14:09,799 --> 00:14:15,399 big venue, big TV matchup game, but for the spirit 248 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,799 of college football, I think you have to you kind 249 00:14:18,799 --> 00:14:20,480 of have to to let it be a home at 250 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:21,200 home eventually. 251 00:14:22,279 --> 00:14:26,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you could take like, for example, I 252 00:14:26,919 --> 00:14:29,240 was at the USC LSU game in Vegas this year. 253 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: Incredible environment, But how much better would that have. 254 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,279 Speaker 1: Been if you played that at Tiger Stadium or play 255 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,279 that at the coliseum and back to back years there's 256 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,000 not right. 257 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,919 Speaker 3: And I know that USC fans they get a lot 258 00:14:40,919 --> 00:14:43,799 of flag. I think a handful would have shown up, 259 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,039 you know, in in Tiger Stadium. Yeah, had that game 260 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,120 been in the coliseum, LSU would have made the trip. 261 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,759 Those things would have made the trip. Absolutely. 262 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 263 00:14:55,759 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: And you know, I know there's not a whole lot 264 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,960 of rivalry corps but waiting those two leagues. But we 265 00:15:04,039 --> 00:15:06,039 are talking about potentially that could be a way to 266 00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:09,480 get oh you Nebraska back, that could get Nebraska Missouri 267 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:15,919 back into the fold. There's some very intriguing potential matchups 268 00:15:16,279 --> 00:15:19,399 that that you could put together with with those two leagues. 269 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, and you know, we're talking about these 270 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,120 super leagues that could happen, and I think we're a 271 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,120 little ways off from that, to be honest. But uh, 272 00:15:30,519 --> 00:15:33,759 there's so many other potential matchups that could happen that 273 00:15:33,879 --> 00:15:37,320 it's it looks too good to you know, it's just. 274 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, we we have to make this happen. 275 00:15:39,919 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: Like there's too many money matchups on the line to say, 276 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:43,879 why not just. 277 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:44,679 Speaker 4: Get weird with it? 278 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:45,879 Speaker 5: Why not? 279 00:15:46,759 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: Why not? 280 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,919 Speaker 3: I'm excited for what it's worth. Miami, interesting stature. You 281 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,639 talk about those matchups, well, not. I guess not SEC. 282 00:15:57,919 --> 00:16:03,799 This isn't SEC Big ten, but just in how geographically 283 00:16:03,879 --> 00:16:07,399 diverse the landscape has become. This is only strictly a 284 00:16:07,399 --> 00:16:11,600 Big ten sir, sorry acc this well, I guess to 285 00:16:11,639 --> 00:16:14,240 be fair, it doesn't even involve them, but the landscape 286 00:16:14,279 --> 00:16:17,000 as a whole, I think has to be addressed. That Miami, 287 00:16:17,759 --> 00:16:21,480 the trucker that drives their equipment has already drove twelve 288 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,799 twelve hundred miles and is not even close. 289 00:16:26,279 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: To the University of cow Yeah, that can be. 290 00:16:31,159 --> 00:16:34,679 Speaker 3: That can be the same thing for let's say, what 291 00:16:34,799 --> 00:16:38,159 if Florida has to drive all the way to. 292 00:16:38,879 --> 00:16:42,559 Speaker 4: Washington right like and and. 293 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,639 Speaker 3: That that's just off the top of my head, and 294 00:16:46,679 --> 00:16:51,519 it's obviously cross country match the swamp as bad as 295 00:16:51,559 --> 00:16:54,279 Florida is right now, the swamp is an all time location. 296 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,759 The Huskies have one of the better atmosphere, well atmosphere 297 00:16:59,799 --> 00:17:03,879 and just view as a venue in. 298 00:17:03,879 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 4: All of college football. Yeah, you could. 299 00:17:08,039 --> 00:17:10,079 Speaker 3: You could make it interesting and say let's meet in 300 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:14,640 the middle and play an arrowhead right something like that. 301 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:19,400 That would be very interesting. But to do that, like 302 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:23,160 it the home and home. If you're a Florida fan, 303 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,440 sure you want to go. If I was a Florida 304 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,599 fan and they was to do a home at home, 305 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,319 I would say, yeah, I want to go to Washington 306 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,720 and see the Gators play in Washington. If I was 307 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,599 a Husky fan, I'm like, yeah, let's get away from 308 00:17:38,039 --> 00:17:40,279 the cold rainy and let's go to the warm rainy 309 00:17:40,319 --> 00:17:41,039 in Gainesville. 310 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:41,799 Speaker 4: Yeah. 311 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 2: I think it's a brilliant idea. 312 00:17:44,039 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Big Twelve and what's going on there, Tom, 313 00:17:48,079 --> 00:17:51,440 you and I last week were sitting here saying, yeah, 314 00:17:51,559 --> 00:17:53,799 it looks like it's it's setting up for Utah to 315 00:17:53,799 --> 00:17:56,799 be in good shape. Can't rising coming back and you 316 00:17:56,839 --> 00:17:59,720 just beat your toughest opponent. And then they have the 317 00:17:59,759 --> 00:18:04,599 ulti let down against Arizona and the offense was so lethargic, 318 00:18:05,079 --> 00:18:07,240 couldn't do anything right. They were at home, it was 319 00:18:07,279 --> 00:18:09,200 at night game, and yet they still found a way 320 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,400 to lose there to Arizona there. And you know, the 321 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,559 Big Twelve standings are just all over the place right 322 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:23,000 with BYU and Iowa State atop and everything else from there. 323 00:18:23,559 --> 00:18:26,799 But if you go to the analytics side, I think 324 00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:33,720 it gets even more weird. Shout out Tim Walls for how. 325 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 2: This is this is all looking right now. According to 326 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,240 the ESPN FPI right. 327 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:44,599 Speaker 1: Now, the Big twelve FPI as it stands, goes as follows. 328 00:18:45,039 --> 00:18:52,920 K State one, Iowa State two, Colorado three four, os 329 00:18:53,079 --> 00:18:57,839 U five, b YU five and O B YU six, 330 00:18:58,839 --> 00:19:05,279 Utah seventh, TCU eighth, Arizona nine, Kansas ten, West Virginia eleven, 331 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,880 which is odd because West Virginia b Kansas, but I digress, 332 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:14,519 Texas Tech twelfth, Cincinnati thirteenth, Arizona State fourteenth, Baylor fifteenth, 333 00:19:14,519 --> 00:19:21,000 and Houston sixteenth. I sit here today very befuddled after 334 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,799 Utah let us down last week. I'm not complaining about it, though, 335 00:19:25,519 --> 00:19:28,000 I honestly do not know now how this league is 336 00:19:28,039 --> 00:19:28,960 gonna shake out. 337 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,039 Speaker 2: Who the hell is gonna get to Arlington? 338 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: What kind of tiebreakers are we going to have to 339 00:19:34,559 --> 00:19:35,680 figure out to get there? 340 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,599 Speaker 4: Oh, it's gonna be stupid. 341 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 2: This is gonna be a mess. 342 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 3: I mean, we talked about tie breakers prior, and you know, 343 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,680 when everybody played everybody, And now I do feel like 344 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,480 what's gonna end up happening is one team's gonna get 345 00:19:51,519 --> 00:19:56,079 screwed over. It always happens like that, right, Like a 346 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,880 team's gonna get screwed over that shouldn't have had a 347 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,880 harder schedule, that maybe had a better win, and we're 348 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,279 gonna be like, well, in any other year, this team would. 349 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:12,079 Speaker 4: Have made it, but they didn't. And that's just that's 350 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,240 just how the cookie fucking crumbles. 351 00:20:14,519 --> 00:20:15,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. 352 00:20:15,079 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: Like, I feel like Tom that Utah and k State 353 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,119 are still the two best teams. We'll see when Cam 354 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,960 Rising comes back. If it's this week, you're supposed to 355 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,920 be two weeks ago. I feel like those are two 356 00:20:27,039 --> 00:20:29,759 best teams. But I don't say that with any confidence at. 357 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:34,799 Speaker 4: All, oh anything. I mean how we've already seen it. 358 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,839 I didn't think they would. I don't. 359 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,559 Speaker 3: I didn't think the cannibalism would happen so fast. 360 00:20:42,559 --> 00:20:46,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've eaten each other alive. And we're six weeks in. 361 00:20:48,519 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's already it's already like okay, what like 362 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,359 what what's like? 363 00:20:55,559 --> 00:20:59,519 Speaker 4: You know? And I mean take it for what you will. 364 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:00,359 I don't thing. 365 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: Now. 366 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: We're not you know, we're not some super collegiate college 367 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:07,880 football analysts. 368 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,599 Speaker 4: To be fair, Vegas, I. 369 00:21:09,519 --> 00:21:11,759 Speaker 3: Think made a lot of money with Colorado winning this 370 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:13,160 weekend this past weekend. 371 00:21:13,519 --> 00:21:14,799 Speaker 4: I think they made a ship ton. 372 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 3: Of money and I don't know, only only some, only 373 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,519 some very college football devians either wanted to see that 374 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:31,880 happen or knew it was going to happen. And saying that, 375 00:21:33,519 --> 00:21:35,920 I think we follow it enough that I think we 376 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,319 have a decent informed opinion. Right, we might not be 377 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,440 the best, but I think I like to think that 378 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:48,519 we have a decent hypothetical like hypothetical guess on who's 379 00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:49,400 gonna win and why? 380 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we were wrong, Well a lot of people 381 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:55,400 were wrong. 382 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: And here's one more thing I'll wrap up before we 383 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,079 get to our get to the slate for both leagues 384 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,319 real quick. A tough pill to swallow, I think when 385 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,599 it comes to the Big Twelve that I hate to admit. 386 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,640 But the big reason I think that the league is 387 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,319 in the shape it is of being unpredictable is the 388 00:22:19,599 --> 00:22:22,960 lly is there's not a great team in this league, 389 00:22:23,519 --> 00:22:27,359 and I think there's less good teams than we initially 390 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,599 thought as well, like BYU and Iowa State, it's only 391 00:22:31,599 --> 00:22:33,279 a matter of time before they get caught up in 392 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,440 all this. Utah and k State, I think you're still 393 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,720 the two best teams. They've already lost, but if they 394 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,039 make the playoff, are they really going to do anything. 395 00:22:43,079 --> 00:22:45,319 They might win a game, they might win two games, 396 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,599 but that's just about it. I mean, I think what 397 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,799 you're seeing is that this league is a whole bunch 398 00:22:51,839 --> 00:22:57,960 of good teams and no one great team that's cannibalizing itself. 399 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 3: Right And and some people say, well, cam Rising wasn't out. 400 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,880 Utah really had no reason to lose against Arizona. No, 401 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,880 and definitely not in that fashion. 402 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if they had something on tape. 403 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 3: Like I'm not so convinced that Arizona is just so 404 00:23:22,319 --> 00:23:26,880 well coached, you know, no Jeff Booth anymore. And I'm 405 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,680 not saying their coach is bad now, But if Arizona 406 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,440 State went out and beat Arizona, I wouldn't necessarily be 407 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,559 completely shocked, right, Like, right, we thought that Arizona was 408 00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:41,200 pretty decent and that they could have a good year 409 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:41,799 because their. 410 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,079 Speaker 4: Quarterback and all worldwide receiver. 411 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:47,599 Speaker 3: But it wasn't going to be hell or high water 412 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,480 for them to lose a couple of games. 413 00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: Let's let's go over the sleigh a Big twelve at 414 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,240 SEC Games for this week. Let's start with the Big 415 00:23:56,279 --> 00:23:59,799 twelve TCU taking got in Houston. They're at home. They're 416 00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:03,759 six sixteen and a half point favorites. TCU is coming 417 00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:07,319 off what is it down two straight losses here Houston. 418 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,680 We saw them give O you a bit of a 419 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,160 scare a couple of weeks ago. This is quite the 420 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,680 reality check for TCU here. They I know they're big 421 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,759 favorite sixteen and a halftime, but they they got to 422 00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:23,039 figure it out fast, because I think Houston will be 423 00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:24,319 a tougher test that people think. 424 00:24:25,319 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 4: I think. 425 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,759 Speaker 3: Give me, I'll disagree, I'll disagree. Give me TCU big 426 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,200 Houston got goose egged in the past two weeks. They 427 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,200 haven't scored a single point in over like ten quarters, 428 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,680 and I think that can I don't think TCU goose 429 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,480 eggs Houston won because I in some weird way, I 430 00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:52,039 kind of like TCU Houston is a potential rivalry. You've 431 00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:53,279 got fort Worth. 432 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 2: They have history, they were in the Southwest Conference together. 433 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I like that as a potential kind 434 00:25:03,079 --> 00:25:03,240 of a. 435 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:05,799 Speaker 4: I don't know of. 436 00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 3: Hey, we'll keep it nice for a certain time, but 437 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,359 when we play each other, hey, man, it's fuck you, 438 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,480 like fuck Houston, fuck I. 439 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 4: Mean fort Worth. 440 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 3: I know that that TCU probably doesn't want to like 441 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,000 somewhat claim Dallas. 442 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 4: I get that, especially because of s m U. But 443 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,559 it's it's not called d f W. It's not called 444 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:35,000 just f W. It's not called D like they're I 445 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,920 won't call them one and the same. But at the 446 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:43,880 same time, Dallas and Houston somewhat hate each. 447 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,839 Speaker 3: Other in a way because of the bigger cities. Yeah, 448 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:54,480 San Antonio hates Houston. And Okay, give me TCU bout 449 00:25:54,519 --> 00:26:00,240 twenty one Oklahoma State West Virginia. You picked West Virginia earlier. 450 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,359 I'll take os U. I don't feel confident about it 451 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:03,640 at all. 452 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: By three. 453 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: For me, the difference is that OSU has the best 454 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,799 player on the football field. This is this is gonna 455 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,079 need to be the Ali Gordon experience. I think that's 456 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,519 the difference in this ballgame toime. 457 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't think West Virginia doesn't have that 458 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,920 that big defensive. 459 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 4: Line in them anymore. 460 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah sils, Yeah, I think that could be. That could 461 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,599 be pretty big. They I will say OSHU was able 462 00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:38,880 to run on k State for the first quarter and 463 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,880 a half, they got away from it. That's what I 464 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,160 told you. This is the game that West Virginia wins 465 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,519 by ten. And this is the straw that breaks the 466 00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:49,759 camel's back, and Casey Dunnan is left out on the 467 00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:50,519 green grass. 468 00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 2: Iowa State taking on Baylor. 469 00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: Iowa State twelve point favorites at home, got to shut 470 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,960 out win against Houston last week, as we mentioned, and 471 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,759 this Baylor team. I'm not a fan of Miranda, but 472 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:08,759 they do have some talent there. And Iowa State now 473 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,119 thinking that, hey, we can go win the Big Twelve. 474 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:16,240 We're ranked in the top twenty, ranked sixteenth. This this 475 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,839 smells potential trap game. I think this is a good 476 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,440 test to see where Iowa State's at right now. Especially 477 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,839 you know, we're talking about Matt Campbell. He's usually not 478 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,240 great in the month of September that they own the 479 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,440 month of October. Let's see what they do now with. 480 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,759 Speaker 2: This one here. I expect I was State. I was 481 00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:35,240 State to win, but I think we're talking about a 482 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:35,680 close game. 483 00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:38,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it could be pretty close. 484 00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 3: And you know Baylor, I think I think Baylor hasn't 485 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,000 been as bad as people expected them to be, but 486 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,160 they're still not great. 487 00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:50,759 Speaker 2: You seef taking on Florida. 488 00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:54,599 Speaker 1: That game at Florida, you seef, We mentioned h did 489 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:59,839 not look great last week against Colorado. You seef going 490 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,839 on on the road Florida on the brink of firing 491 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,359 Billy Dapier. It seems any day now. Florida I think 492 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,759 is a horrible football team UCF. This is a statement game. 493 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:14,799 There's a lot of pride on the line for them 494 00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:18,640 to go into Gainesville here. I like UCF to win 495 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,519 by at least a touchdown in this one. Tom and 496 00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:22,839 that might be sid r for Billy Dapier. 497 00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 3: I'm very interested in how Molzahn bounces back. He's no 498 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:32,920 stranger to play in Florida by any means. You know, 499 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,240 you go on the road in Gainesville. For what it's worth. 500 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,799 After UCF let me down this past week, I'm gonna 501 00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:41,440 take Florida. 502 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: Okay, it's a night game in the swamp. You see 503 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,160 f favor by two and a half. Kansas and Arizona State. 504 00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:51,440 We talked about this a little bit earlier. I'm going 505 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,079 to this game. I was not expecting to sit here 506 00:28:56,119 --> 00:29:00,160 at the month of October Kansas to be underdogs at 507 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,000 Arizona State. 508 00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: But here we are. 509 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: We've reached that point, Arizona State surprising a lot of people. 510 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,759 Three and one, I told you it was coming with 511 00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:14,599 Kenny Dillingham that he's the real deal. Kansas underdogs, Kansas 512 00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:17,799 more talented team, But I don't know if they're the 513 00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:20,599 better coach team. And that's not an indictment on Land's lighthole, 514 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,079 it's indictment on his coordinators. Jeff Grimes isn't doing a 515 00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:27,000 good job. Bran Borlan's not doing a good job as 516 00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:31,519 a defensive coordinator either. I lean towards Ku, but zero 517 00:29:31,799 --> 00:29:35,000 confidence in the Hawks to win this one. On paper, 518 00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:39,039 they win this one blowing away, but coaching is holding 519 00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:40,319 them back so much right now. 520 00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you're in this. You're in the same 521 00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:45,400 boat as a fan than I am. 522 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,759 Speaker 3: And I mean I think that that Jeff Grimes and 523 00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:52,920 Casey dun should run off to get together and just 524 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,160 disappear for the safety of college football. 525 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,039 Speaker 2: That'd be great. 526 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,759 Speaker 1: Texas Tech taking out of Arizona. I don't buy Texas 527 00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:05,079 Tech being a four to one team. They are completing 528 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,079 total frauds. The offense looked fantastic last week, that defense 529 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,039 is horrible. Arizona gotta win they needed. I love what 530 00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:15,680 I saw from Noah Fafieda, by the way, some of 531 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,680 the passes he was throwing. I was watching that game 532 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,640 and I said to myself, Tom, that's an NFL quarterback. 533 00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:23,319 Speaker 2: I love Faffieda. 534 00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:27,839 Speaker 1: They're at home against this tech team. Give me Arizona 535 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,960 by at least two scores. 536 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 4: I like Arizona too. I think they build off of 537 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:33,960 that Utah win. 538 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:39,279 Speaker 3: I think when we talk about just wins from week 539 00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:43,240 to week, I think that a team like Arizona can 540 00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:47,039 really build off of wins like that. And I think 541 00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:50,440 that it had been a season defining win that didn't 542 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,160 look too good for them, and you know now they 543 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,799 beat Utah, a team that we thought was gonna go undefeated. 544 00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:58,440 I think you take that momentum and keep riding that way. 545 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,839 Speaker 2: Waking on Texas, A and M. Miszoo is four to 546 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,400 zero as. 547 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: We begin the SEC slate and they're underdogs at A 548 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:09,960 and M. Here A and M's one loss was a 549 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,920 close game to Notre Dame. They did pull it off 550 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,720 last week against Arkansas, close win against Bowling Green, beat 551 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,559 Florida on the road by two scores. 552 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,359 Speaker 2: This is total trap, bad spot for Miszoo. I think 553 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,559 Miszoo gets exposed. 554 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards A and M take care of business 555 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,480 at home here is two and a half point favorite. 556 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,839 Speaker 3: I see Miszoo a lot like I saw in some way. 557 00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:40,720 I saw them kind of like in Iowa last year. 558 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,240 I'm gonna take Missou here. 559 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: Woa. Okay, Georgia take it on Auburn. 560 00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:50,559 Speaker 1: Georgia trying to bounce back off that lost to Alabama 561 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,160 last week. Auburn, I watched that entire game against ou. 562 00:31:55,759 --> 00:32:01,200 Peyton Thorn is a terrible quarterback. That offense is disgusting 563 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,200 to watch. I think Hugh Freeze is getting exposed. Uh, 564 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,079 this is a horrible spot. It's a rivalry game. Georgia 565 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,279 twenty four point favorites. I like Georgia and to win 566 00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:16,240 this one ugly. I mean, this could not have come 567 00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:19,359 at a worst Georgia. This could not have come at 568 00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:21,559 a worse time for Auburn to be facing Georgia here 569 00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:23,119 at Georgia two. 570 00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:26,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you you should have been against so you 571 00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:29,200 should have had it won. You don't have a line 572 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,400 at all. 573 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 4: This is gonna get up. It's gonna get ugly. 574 00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: Ole miss taking out South Carolina. South Carolina I think 575 00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:41,119 is a decent team. At three and one, they've been 576 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,960 one of the biggest surprises of the year in the 577 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,720 sec Ole Miss looking to rebound off that game against 578 00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:52,160 Kentucky last week, We're gonna find out what Lane Kiffin 579 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,279 has cooked up for this team. We mentioned that I 580 00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:55,960 think this is a team that's gonna get better as 581 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,640 the year goes along. But they can't be open around 582 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,720 too much after that loss to Kentucky because I think 583 00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:07,119 this is uh, this is a very interesting test to 584 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,160 see how they respot after that loss to go on 585 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,279 the road against a decent South Carolina team. I leaned 586 00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:14,480 towards Old Miss, but I think South Carolina can make 587 00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:16,839 this interesting like they did against LSU a few weeks ago. 588 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 3: I think they will too, and I do lean towards 589 00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:24,799 you know, I do lean towards Old Miss for sure. 590 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,240 I think they rebound, not in the same way Georgia 591 00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:32,279 will do, but I do lean towards them, But it could, 592 00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:33,279 It could get interesting. 593 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 4: South Carolina is a lot better than the record shows. 594 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bama taking on Vandy in Nashville gonna be basically 595 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,480 a home game for Bama. Bama coming in off that win. 596 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:47,960 We've seen Vandy, though, have some moments they surprise everybody. 597 00:33:48,039 --> 00:33:51,920 Beating Virginia Tech Week one, I think Bama crushes the 598 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,519 hell out of Vandy, and you know that they'll look fantastic. 599 00:33:57,359 --> 00:34:01,279 But I think if you if you're BAM here, you 600 00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:06,480 still have to say to yourselves, we we can't let 601 00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:10,559 it sink in, can't let that rat poison get to 602 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:15,920 us after beating beating Georgia last week, because because Vandy 603 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,920 I think is much better than any of us anticipated, 604 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,639 like they're they're this is their super Bowl here, Like 605 00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:25,760 you can't go in with that rat poison after that 606 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,280 performance we saw last week. 607 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 3: No, and to be fair, I don't think they will, 608 00:34:33,559 --> 00:34:36,199 you know, I think I think it does definitely have 609 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,039 potential for a. 610 00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 4: Letdown game or a hangover type situation. 611 00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:43,639 Speaker 1: But I'm not touching this game of Bama favored by 612 00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:45,519 twenty three, I'm not betting no. 613 00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 4: No, I think Bama probably wins by like fifteen. 614 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: Tennessee taking out Arkansas, very good rivalry game. This game 615 00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:59,960 gonna be in primetime in Fayetteville, Arkansas. Coming off a 616 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,079 lost to Texas A and M very close last week. 617 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,599 Tennessee their first games since the buye against OU. I 618 00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:11,679 said this last week, I wasn't too impressed with Tennessee's offense. 619 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,400 Against OU. To be honest, I expected more out of 620 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,679 Niko in company Arkansas with with Green. You saw at 621 00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:21,000 first hand what they did against OSU. They got a 622 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,800 pretty good offense. They're at home here. I think Tennessee wins, 623 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,599 but I think Arkansas can keep it close. 624 00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 4: I think they will too. I mean, Arkansas is no 625 00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:30,199 Junke to play. 626 00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 3: I mean they've I feel like they've kind of had 627 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,840 a rougher season, to be honest, Like if it wasn't 628 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,599 for Sam Pittman and I like me some old cold beer, 629 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,559 if it wasn't for him, I think they'd have a 630 00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:45,480 lot better record. 631 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,639 Speaker 4: He's not He's a great person. I feel like he's 632 00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:50,719 just not a great coach. 633 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right about. 634 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,519 Speaker 3: And when they find the right coach, whether that be 635 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,920 old Bobby Patrine, now, I think it's going to get 636 00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:01,719 very interesting. 637 00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 2: There you have. 638 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: That is our big twelve and SEC breakdown for this week. 639 00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 2: Morning. Com Stay with us, join us now the program 640 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,239 this week. 641 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: Please to welcome in from Fox four News in Kansas City. 642 00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:19,920 It is our good friend John Holt who is here 643 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,000 with us, who I will be seeing in just a 644 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,760 few hours from right now, is. We're heading off to 645 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,760 Phoenix to see the Jayhawks take on the Arizona State 646 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,400 sun Devils, and John Holt joins us right now. 647 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 2: Johnny Ray, always a pleasure. 648 00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: The chance we get to chat, my friend, so much 649 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,039 going on. I know the Hawks aren't playing too great 650 00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:40,920 right now, but yeah, about those Royals and Chiefs, we'll. 651 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 2: Get to them later. I mentioned, thanks are good, How 652 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,000 are you, my friend? 653 00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 6: You know, all is good if you're a sports fan 654 00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:49,800 in the Kansas City area, particularly professional sports when it 655 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,840 comes to college. Of course, the big three here Missouri 656 00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:56,079 to the east, KU and k State to the west. 657 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,119 You know, it's funny you and I've talked about this 658 00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,679 trip here for some time, heading down to the Valley 659 00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:05,039 of the Sun. I think we both thought KAU might 660 00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:07,920 be five and oh or four on one. Yeah, and 661 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,239 it would have cooled off a little in the Phoenix area, 662 00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:12,639 and neither is the case. 663 00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 5: So but you know what, we're gonna go. 664 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 6: We're gonna have fun and hopefully the Jayhawks come back 665 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,119 with their second win of the season. I did get 666 00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:23,800 to see both of the Stoker Field meet up. Sporting 667 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,079 k C kind enough to host the Jayhawks for their 668 00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:30,400 non conference two of their non conference games, and I 669 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,079 saw the first win, and then I was there for 670 00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:39,280 the UNLV loss to a quarterback who decided he wanted 671 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,280 a pay raise or wasn't getting paid enough or at. 672 00:37:42,199 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 5: What he was being promised, depends on who you talked to. 673 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 6: But anyway, UNLV, you know, we were all there at 674 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,639 that game and we. 675 00:37:48,519 --> 00:37:51,039 Speaker 5: Were all like, yeah, this is just crazy. 676 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 6: Now we're one and two at that time, but we 677 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,800 were thinking, yeah, I guess if you had to pick 678 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,159 a pick, you'd rather win the bowl game, which were 679 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,519 at last, you know, December. So yeah, but still it 680 00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:05,960 was not a good win. And then of course now 681 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,119 they're one and four. After the loss to TCU, I 682 00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:10,079 did not get to go to the first Arrowhead game. 683 00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:11,679 Speaker 5: I was kind of disappointed at a wedding of a 684 00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:15,079 good friend that night, so I had to miss that game. 685 00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 6: But I should be able to get back out there 686 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,760 for the final three. 687 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: So I got to know, with this trip planned and everything, 688 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,280 and your luggage, are you finding a way to bring 689 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,480 the cooler out to Tempe? 690 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 2: Is it traveling with you? 691 00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:30,119 Speaker 5: The little Red Cooler? In fact, the Little Red Cooler 692 00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:32,119 was not happy with me last week. For those who 693 00:38:32,159 --> 00:38:33,599 don't know. I have this old. 694 00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:38,039 Speaker 6: Coalman cooler that I literally have been using for tailgates 695 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:39,800 probably over three decades. 696 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 5: And this is not a yetty. This doesn't have wheels. 697 00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 6: It's old school, right, and it's I just I use 698 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,920 it as a matter of principle because it's just old school, 699 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:49,559 and I know. 700 00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 5: You're familiar with it. 701 00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 6: You've enjoyed a cool adult beverage or two out of it. 702 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,320 It will not make the trip we're carrying on. We're 703 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,719 going to make this as an efficient trip as possible. 704 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,679 Speaker 5: We don't have to. You can pack light. 705 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,519 Speaker 6: If it's going to be one hundred and five degrees, 706 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,840 you don't have to, you know, pack the sweaters and 707 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,400 the sweatshirts. So that'll make it easy. But looking forward 708 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,119 to getting back out to the Phoenix area. Have a 709 00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:12,119 lot of friends out there, and a lot of Jayhawks 710 00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:14,400 are coming in. I think my flight tomorrow will be packed. 711 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,679 I was texting with a friend who's already there today. 712 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,119 Their flight was packed with Jayhawks. I think a lot 713 00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:20,800 of people just looked at the schedule and went, you 714 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,400 know what, this will be the first road game against 715 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,280 the conference foe and Arizona State's new let's head out 716 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,039 to Tempe. 717 00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm still excited about it, even with as 718 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,559 much as this team has struggled as of light. Hopefully 719 00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:38,400 this is the beginning of things turning around from here. 720 00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 2: Do you have a tailgate plan yet? Do you know 721 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,519 where you're going to be before the game or anything yet? 722 00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 5: Don't? I mean, this is a whole new venue for us. 723 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 6: I understand the KEYU Alumni Association is planning an event 724 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,679 at a bar near the stadium. One of my friends 725 00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:56,000 who were meeting out there is kind of coordinating that 726 00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:59,440 it's open to the public. It's not a ticketed event, 727 00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:01,800 but uh, you know, so it's just basically. 728 00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:02,280 Speaker 5: An open sports bar. 729 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,039 Speaker 6: But I've never been to Arizona State other than just 730 00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:06,519 when we were out there covering the Chiefs in the 731 00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:08,280 Super Bowl a couple of years ago, just driving through 732 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,440 the campus. We stayed in Tempee, but really didn't venture 733 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,039 down to the stadium at all. That's where the Chiefs 734 00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:16,599 practiced actually, but never got down there. Uh, so this 735 00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:18,920 will be this will be a new, a new experience. 736 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,440 I hear it's beautiful. Obviously, stadium setting will be fantastic. 737 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,320 So I'm looking forward to just kind of I love 738 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,159 going to these new venues, these new particularly the new 739 00:40:27,199 --> 00:40:30,480 conference venues. You know, I'm looking forward to getting back 740 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,280 out the Boulder. We've been to Boulder a couple of 741 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,760 times back in the good old days. But gosh, u 742 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,519 c F in Orlando will be fun. Arizona and Tucson, 743 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,599 I say fun. We'll see, you know, it depends on 744 00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:42,960 how the you know, the how the whether or not 745 00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:47,800 the Jayhawks continue the growth in football or digress. 746 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 5: I think they're going to continue to grow. 747 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 6: Who knows what's going on right now, but there are 748 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,679 factors in play, but just got to turn the offensive 749 00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:57,679 ship around and the defense needs to be able to 750 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:58,719 hold on to a lead. 751 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 5: When you get to the fourth corps, what. 752 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: Do you think is the problem right now? What is 753 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,719 wrong with this team? Or maybe a number of issues. 754 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,440 I know Jalen's not playing good. A lot of people 755 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,840 were putting the finger at the coaching staff with Grimes 756 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,800 and Borland the coordinators here. What do you think the 757 00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:17,880 big issues that's holding this team back? 758 00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 4: Well? 759 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,559 Speaker 6: I think maybe, first of all, I think I've worried 760 00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:27,000 about this all offseason. Expectations were very high, right and 761 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,239 there was talk of being a CFP contender, maybe playing 762 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,159 in the conference championship game in Dallas, And I kept 763 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,840 reminding myself, boy, you know we've had we've seen growth. 764 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,199 We won a bowl game last year, nine games, nine 765 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,199 win season, which was exciting, but you know, baby steps, right. 766 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,719 Jalen was struggled last year, only got in three games. 767 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,199 Was thrilled to have him come back. But now you 768 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,239 have a new offensive coordinator, you have a new offensive line, 769 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:53,639 you have. 770 00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 5: You know, a lot of new factors that play in 771 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,599 play there. So I don't I don't know. 772 00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 6: Was caught a little bit off guard by the comments 773 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,840 by Grimes at his press conference last week. I think 774 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,400 it was where he mentioned that not having a JD 775 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:12,840 around during the off season was maybe a factor. And 776 00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:15,199 I'm not an insider by any means, don't know what 777 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,519 that means. There were a lot of scratch scratch heads, 778 00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:20,440 I guess at the news conference. I'm not quite clear. 779 00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:23,239 Was that a chemistry thing. Was was Jalen off getting 780 00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:26,000 more treatment? Was he just off having fun? 781 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 5: Who knows? 782 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 6: But hopefully they'll get this ship together. I mean, he's talented, 783 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,960 we know he can play. How much of this is 784 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,199 a new coordinator trying new things. 785 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 5: How much of it is new offensive protectors. 786 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 6: On the line, you still have, you know, two of 787 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,639 the top running backs in the country who are proving 788 00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:45,639 that when they get the ball, they can make things happen. 789 00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:48,079 Speaker 5: The receiving corps a little bit thinner. 790 00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 6: Fair Child's gone, that was a go to guy, but 791 00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:53,280 you know, gosh, they still have guys who can catch 792 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:53,760 the football. 793 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 5: So you know, let's write the ship in Tempe this week. 794 00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 6: And you get a road win in conference, and that 795 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,199 can really build your confidence. So we'll hope for something 796 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,079 like that. Arizona State has had its own. 797 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 5: Struggles, but they've had two weeks to get ready. 798 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 6: You know, they had that bye week after losing to 799 00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:10,719 Texas tex So they'll be ready. And the weather's going 800 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,039 to be warm, we know that. So hopefully the Jayhawks 801 00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:14,519 high rate and are in good condition. 802 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 2: Hopefully so. 803 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: And you know, I look ahead to this game here 804 00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:23,519 and I'm sitting here saying to myself, John, like you know, 805 00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:27,159 you look at on paper, Kansas is a much more 806 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,960 talented team than Arizona State. But Arizona State has played 807 00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:34,639 above their potential and their coach, Kenny Dillingham, has done 808 00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:38,280 such a good job. I wonder. I don't know the 809 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,519 answer right now. What is going to be the end 810 00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:44,280 all be all? The difference in this game is that 811 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,679 does Arizona play above their talent level? 812 00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 2: Are they better coached? 813 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 1: Or does Kansas put it together and finally play to 814 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,199 their potential here To me, I think this could one 815 00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:57,159 way or another could be a turning point. 816 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,039 Speaker 2: In the season for this Kansas team, depending on the result. 817 00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 6: It could because the road doesn't get any easier right 818 00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:04,920 as you move forward, So you'd like to get a 819 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,800 woman here where you can. 820 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 5: I don't. I don't want to suggest that KU's going 821 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,159 to be out coached. 822 00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:11,079 Speaker 6: I think we know the Lance life wholeland and Lance 823 00:44:11,079 --> 00:44:13,679 we trust, right, but you know that there is a 824 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,320 there is a newness when you have to look up 825 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,920 in the in the coordinating boxes. 826 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,199 Speaker 5: Uh, so we'll see. I mean, I'm. 827 00:44:20,159 --> 00:44:23,760 Speaker 6: Hopeful, fingers crossed that this is a turning point allows 828 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,400 them to build some confidence. I think, Kay, you had 829 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,039 better talent in their other losses too, right, I mean, 830 00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:31,480 I think you can go down the list, you could 831 00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:33,199 say that, and yet they just haven't been able to 832 00:44:33,199 --> 00:44:33,800 put it together. 833 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 5: Is something going on there that we're not. 834 00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:40,159 Speaker 6: Privy to maybe, but hopefully, you know, the coaches are 835 00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:43,440 working on it, the team chemistry builds, and JD puts 836 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,280 together a game this weekend that is more of what 837 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,320 we expect and what we've come to expect from him. 838 00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:53,199 He only played three games last year. The layoff may 839 00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:55,679 have may have hurt h So we'll see. But I'm 840 00:44:55,679 --> 00:44:58,159 looking forward to getting down there and taking in the atmosphere, 841 00:44:58,199 --> 00:44:59,199 and I know. 842 00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 5: They'll be ready for it. 843 00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:02,119 Speaker 6: They've had two weeks to get ready, so hopefully the 844 00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:03,000 Jayhawks respond. 845 00:45:03,199 --> 00:45:04,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be a lot of fun. 846 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: Certainly looking forward to seeing you out there and join 847 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,400 ourselves this. 848 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,159 Speaker 2: Weekend in Phoenix. 849 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 1: John, for sure, time is always looking forward to seeing 850 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,679 you here in a few hours in Phoenix. 851 00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:16,280 Speaker 2: Will certainly have a great time and we'll talk in 852 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:16,960 down the line. 853 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,760 Speaker 5: You're getting there before I do, so you know, save 854 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,119 some of the fun for me. I'll be down there. 855 00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:25,199 Speaker 2: I'll have a beverage for you when I get there. 856 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 5: Okay, there you go hydrate though it's gonna be hot.