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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of The Chicks on the Right podcast.

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You guys, very excited today. You know him, you love him.

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It's Officer Brandon Tatum, former police officer and now truth

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teller on all the social media platforms, huge audiences everywhere.

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We're so excited to talk to you and get to

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know you better. And we know that you obviously used

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to be in law enforcement, but what we don't know

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is how you made this shift from that career to

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political commentator.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you guys for having me on. I love

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your show. I followed you guys a while back. You

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guys were saying incredible things, and I'm like, I love

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these ladies and I can't wait to go on that

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show one day. So I'm happy to be here. Very

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It wasn't the played thing. You know, I didn't think

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I would ever leave law enforcement. I thought I was gonna,

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you know, be the chief of police somewhere. I was

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hoping for Tucson, and you know, I built my whole

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career on saying I'm going to serve until the day

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I retire. But then I began to be political.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: When I started out as a cop, I voted for

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Barack Obama. I thought I was a Democrat, and over time,

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a lot of my friends were, you know, convincing me

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through giving me true information that I could not refute,

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convinced me that I was probably more of a Republican

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than a Democrat. And so over time I just became

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more politically involved. I went to a Trump rally, which

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was his first rally he did in Tucson. After my shift,

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I did the night shift, stayed up. I said, I'm

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just going to see what it's like. They say this

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guy's a racist and he's going to throw.

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Speaker 2: Black people out.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I know that as a former police

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officer that I have to weigh both sides. I can't

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just go off of what people say. So I said,

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let me go check him out. See what Donald Trump

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was out about. And I loved it. I mean, it

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was great. It was a great event. And the people

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who were the maniacs were the ones who were on

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the left who were protested him, and they're trying to

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you know, block the doors off and cussing that people.

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I mean, it was a lot different than what I expected.

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And I thought the things that he was saying, we're

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things that I agree with the border, all the stuff

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he's saying right now. And so I made a video online,

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didn't think nothing of it, went to sleep and woke

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up and I had thirty missed calls. The police department

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called me shun Hannity's show. I mean, I had never

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watched Fox before, so I didn't know who shun Hannity was.

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My god, I didn't know who Bill O'Reilly was. I

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didn't know what Fox and Friends was, and so I

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was like, what is happening?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: And I thought I was gonna get fired. I had

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no idea it was about that video I made. So

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after a while I caught on and I was like, oh,

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oh my, oh crap. It was that video. And actually

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in the video, I said some crazy stuff, you know.

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I didn't think nobody would see it, right, So it

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was a guy that got beat up, and I said,

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that's what he gets. He deserved to get beat up.

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And I'm like, man, I'm a cop. How I'm I

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gonna say that? So anyway, that led to me being

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more vocal online. I wasn't really a social media person,

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but I said, you know what, I think my opinions

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have value or something. Just gonna keep give my opinions live.

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I didn't edit videos or nothing, so I just went

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live every time I wanted to say something. And then

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in twenty seventeen, Colin Kaepernick video came out, or at

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least he had nailed for the National Anthem, and I

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got sick of it, so I made a video in

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my car and it went megaviral. It had seventy million views.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Then I got offered a job from a company in Anthem, Arizona,

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and I said, you know what, what do I have

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to lose to me give it a try. It was

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only supposed to be a year. If I didn't like it,

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I'd go back to being a cop, you know. I

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if it was for me, then you know, I'll see

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where God wanted to take me. And I met Kennis

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Owens and we became really good friends, and I just

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never went back to policing, and then the rest is history.

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Speaker 4: Do you miss it?

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Speaker 2: I miss it a little bit, you know. Yeah, I

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think policing was fun.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's dangerous, but that's also the

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adrenaline part of it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's dangerous. You do something different every day.

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Speaker 3: You get to communicate with people, of all walks of life,

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and you get a chance speak life in the people.

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You know, it's not always about arrests. It's not always

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about violence and getting killed and watching people get killed,

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and that's not really the thing is. You know a

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lot of times you deal with young people who need

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guidance and mentorship, and you have an opportunity, in a

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position of authority, in their worst moment, to speak life

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to them. And you know, there was different parts of

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the police department. You know, I decoyed with the K nine,

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so I would go on and training sessions with the

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K nine unit with the dogs. That was fun. I

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was a PIO for a year, that was fun. I

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was a field training officer, so I trained new officers,

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which was crazy, right, they almost kill you driving a car.

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They'd never driven a police card before, so you got

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to sit there and watch them take corners.

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Speaker 4: With the teenager.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exactly exactly, you know, like my son, I'm

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just like you know, So it was that that was fun.

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I mean, the opportunity to move up and to do

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different things were great. And I I think that it

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would be less fun today than it was when I

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was a young officer because now there's under so much scrutiny.

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You shoot the wrong person or even acting in good

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faith and it's not politically correct.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they'll destroy your life, even.

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Speaker 4: Though I think they're just getting beat up. They're just

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getting beat up left and right.

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Speaker 3: They happen, especially in these cities, and especially in these

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cities like LA where they don't care about the police.

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I mean, they're just tools, are ornaments to be out

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there for show, and they don't care if they live

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or die. They get hit with rocks and they couldn't

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care that. The city people couldn't care less. So yeah,

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I do miss it a little bit, but I am

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enjoying where I'm at now. I think God has called

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me to do the things that I'm doing, so I'm

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just walking my faith out.

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Speaker 5: So talking about LA, speaking of LA, like, what's your

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take on all the stuff that's happening there and the

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drama that's happening, And I mean I feel for the

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law enforcement officers there and think there, gosh, it just

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just is so unfair they're being treated and they're not

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being supported. And what's your take on all that? Since

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you on the ground doing what they do.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's gotta be a terrible feeling, because you know,

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there's a thing called morale on the police department, and

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so good morale gives you the confidence that when things

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are going south, that you can pursue anyway. Right when

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they're throwing rocks at you, like, Okay, the city has

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my back. My brothers and sisters next to me have

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my back. We're in this thing together. We're doing the

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right thing. Everything's gonna be all right at the end

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of the day. This is what I signed up for.

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But when morale is low, meaning that the officials are

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saying there's no real violence here, it's Donald Trump's fault,

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you know, it makes you feel like, well, wait a minute, man,

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I'm operating on behalf of the city, and the city

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leaders are just acting as if we don't exist. They're

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not even acknowledging the fact that they're hitting us with

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rocks and trying to kill people. I mean, they're literally

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trying to kill people. If the grit go through a

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front windshield, it can kill somebody. And these people know

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that they're dropping rocks off the freeway, and you know,

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so when the cops probably feel terrible about this, and

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it's very sad, and I hate the fact that the

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police officers have to go through this, to be honest,

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if they want to just have a you know, a

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free for all, just have a free for all, don't

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involve the police.

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Speaker 2: Let the people go and destroy your city.

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Speaker 3: Then if you're not going to protect the police or

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at least give them resources when it gets out of control.

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So I think it's a terrible situation. It should have

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been handled very quickly if they would have abided by

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federal immigration laws. I mean, they could have been doing

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this methodically over time. There's visas for people that need

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the work that are foreign, you know, people from out

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Speaker 2: There's all kind of visas.

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Speaker 3: Why can't they, you know, make sure people are legally

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in the country and let them work as much as

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they want. But they want to influx illegal aliens into

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this country so that they can grant them citizenships so

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they can be another voting.

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Speaker 4: Group they care about.

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Speaker 2: And so that's what we see being played out.

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Speaker 3: When the government actually do their job like we hired

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them to do, and like our taxpayers go to and

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enforce federal immigration law, you know, this is what happens,

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and it's sad that California is not supportive.

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Speaker 4: I think people are getting sick of it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think that this is going to backfire

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on Democrats, just like a lot of stuff is backfired

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on them over they're on the wrong side of this.

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see people that are supporting, you know, oh the protesters,

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and this is they're they're making, you know, comparisons to

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him being a not I hear the Nazi thing all

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the time. I just want to like punch people, I swear.

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I get so sick of that comparison.

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Speaker 1: And not that we can done violence on We never

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can do violence on our show.

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Speaker 4: We don't do that.

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Speaker 5: But I mean it's I just get so sick of

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all the he's being so oppressive or the authoritarianism and

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all the things that they try to make him out

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to be. When there are laws, people should be following

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the laws. We used to be a nation of laws.

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That was something that Democrats and Republicans used to be

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able to agree on, like a little bit, like we

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have immigration laws and they should be followed, and we're

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just not there now. It's like, we're so far removed

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from that. It's they are so far left now, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the parent that's trying to be the

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keyst friend all the time. You go so far and

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then when it's time to get respect, you lost that already.

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You can't somehow, you know, pump your chest out and

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say I'm dad now, and you're just being his friend

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so long.

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Speaker 2: And that's what they've done.

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Speaker 3: They've created an environment where they're no longer in authority.

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They have backed at least the American people into a corner.

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They've you know, pushed the LGBTQ stuff down.

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Speaker 2: I throw.

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Speaker 3: They pushed immigration down, I throw. I mean, they pushed

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all this political correctness down.

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Speaker 2: I throwed.

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Speaker 3: And at a certain point people are sick of it.

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unless they're going to become Republicans, you know, like the

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Democrats for instance, like they are.

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Speaker 2: They are on an.

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Speaker 3: Extremely wrong side or extreme wrong side of immigration.

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Speaker 2: It's very simple.

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Speaker 3: They could have done like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton

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and some of the other previous Democrats who said, look,

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you break the law, We're going to deport you. And

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country that deserve the work, that's seeking asylum. Let's find

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out a process that we can make that work effectively.

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now they're so radical they they're literally like, Okay, he's

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a person who's committed crimes in this country and murdered

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people and whatever, but he is he separated from his family.

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El Salvador?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he wears his hat backwards. He's totally cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you guys doing?

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Speaker 3: Like people are struggling, people's tax dollars aren't going as

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far as they expect them to go, and you guys

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are putting on the charade. The Maxine Waters is out

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there the other day taunting the federal agents.

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Speaker 1: Or are the National Guarden the National Guarden?

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Speaker 2: And she's like, what are you gonna do? Shoot me?

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You're gonna shoot somebody? Because is that what they do?

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And we're in the history.

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Speaker 3: Have you seen them just blatantly shoot people in the

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middle of the street in America? I mean that has

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not happened. And for her, you know, I don't want

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to talk about her age, but for.

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Speaker 2: Her, she.

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Speaker 4: We'll do it for you. We'll do it for you.

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Speaker 1: To talk about her age. I mean, it's out of control,

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older than dirt absolutely, and you since you have that

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policing in your background, and I know, I listen, I

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know you can't get into the heads of the current LAPD,

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but I have to wonder, like if you can, do

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you think that they feel collectively? And I know they're

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all individuals, but collectively, do you feel like they must

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feel defeated and betrayed even by the mayor, by the governor,

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by you know, because they're not getting support. They're not

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even allowed to assist ICE, which is another law enforcement

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agency to enforce the laws on the books. So how

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how do I mean? I can't you mentioned the morale earlier.

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I cannot imagine anything more demoralizing than basically being told

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you don't get to do your job, like you don't

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get to you don't get to stop the people that

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are blocking traffic, which I don't even understand how they're

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just standing there and not doing something about that.

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Speaker 4: It makes me rage.

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Speaker 5: And having rocks thrown at you and having things and

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literally being hurt while you're trying to do your job

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and then not having the backs of the people.

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Speaker 4: That are supposed to have your backs. That's what I

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can't miss.

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Speaker 3: It's multifaceted because you know, police officers have so many

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other things to do, and so I think that this

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is like one moment of clarity for police officers where

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they go, these people are terrible, they don't support us.

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But then after these riots are over, and after this

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the smoke settles and the Democrats get back to business

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as usual, cops are out in the streets doing regular

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police work, you know, and a lot of times it's

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on an individual basis, meaning that you control what you

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engage with on a day to day basis, and most

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of it is in your control as a police officer.

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But I think there is an underlying current or undercurrent

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of saying, like, you know, this is not what I

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signed up for. I don't know if I want to

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continue to do this, you know, I don't know if

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it's worth it anymore.

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Speaker 2: I think that some cops.

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Speaker 3: Are feeling that that feeling, you knowing the new cops

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that are coming in, they coming in, they're coming in

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on a different identity as the cops that when I

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got on or dudes that are twenty years before me.

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So I think the new cops are used to it.

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The older cops are probably struggling with it a lot

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more than the newer guys, because when you grew up

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and you're like, no, we used to lay the hammer down,

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like no, we used to be law in order.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: No, when you did this, you go to jail. Oh no,

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not only do you go to you get arrested, you

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do time in jail, free strike rules like back in

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the day. And now these cops are looking at like

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what have we devolved into? But the young guys are

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indoctrinating and they come up in a softer environment. So

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I think that some of the younger cops are like

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used to it being this way and they think this

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is normal, and I think they kind of experience it

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a little different than some of the cops that have

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been on.

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Speaker 2: For a while.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that they would be in support of

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Donald because Donald trying the other day, you know, had

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that Hohle saying you spit, we hit, And I just

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I wonder, like, do you think that cops in general

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would feel like they have the like Donald Trump has

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their back? When he says things like that, because it

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seems like there should be way more significant consequences for

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people who do spit at police officers or throw urine

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at them or all the other things that they throw,

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even if it's non lethal stuff like I know, the rocks.

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Obviously they should serve massive amounts of time for that.

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But even like if they are spitting, I just to me,

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it seems like that's so utterly unacceptable that goes beyond

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a First Amendment thing, do you. I mean, I would

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hope that cops feel when Trump says you spit, we hit,

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that that matters, and that they should get that same

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kind of support from Karen Bass, from Governor Newsom that

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they're not getting.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I agree with you, Like I think

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about eighty percent of police officers agree with Trump, and

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they support Trump woleheartedly, and they're glad that we have

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a president place that support them, give them some type

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of you know, recognition, And I bet eighty percent of

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them voted.

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Speaker 1: For Trump, to be quite wonderful.

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Speaker 3: There are cops that still are leftists too, you know,

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unfortunate in their.

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Speaker 4: Get it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it just happens like these people get

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in the profession and they're virtuous and they they're better

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than anybody. They're they're going to represent the LGBTQ or

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there's some type of affirmative action higher, whether they're black,

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whether they're women, whether they're gay males, or you know,

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you got a bunch of groups of people that get

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into the profession and they want to be activists. You know,

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you get them moving up the ranks, they become police chiefs,

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and so you have them. It's just not often that

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they are that way. So I would argue, like you said,

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most cops are excited that they have a president that's

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willing to say something, that's willing to call out the

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bs in California. But there is a few that are

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probably like, oh, he's so evil and immigrants need rights.

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Speaker 2: They get hitting the head with a rock. You know,

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you have those people out there. Unfortunately, It's just.

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Speaker 5: So how do you see it ending? Like where do

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you where do you think this is gonna go?

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Speaker 4: Do you think it's gonna be it's gonna go?

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Speaker 3: It's gonna it's gonna go like it always go. You know,

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there's it starts out with the crazy rides. It starts

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that ot with them bludgeon and cobs, and then it

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starts with them damaging property and then they go and loot,

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and then after a while, the hammer has to be

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let down. Right then they start letting l a PD

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and the and the state troopers, they start letting them

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really let loose, and they start hitting them with less

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lethal they start arresting more people.

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Speaker 2: The National Guard comes in, and.

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Speaker 3: Then you see it dissipate because what really happens, in

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my personal opinion, is that you have people who are

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out there who are ignorant fools that are just protesting,

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and then you have paid demonstrators who come in with

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equipment and rocks and agitation, and they're the ones that

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escalate this to a disproportionate, you know, level, and then they.

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Speaker 2: Do their job they leave right.

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Speaker 3: If it was up to the protesters, I think the

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protesters will protest for weeks and months at a time.

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It's just that the regular protesters aren't as violent. But

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the demonstrators that are paid, in my pinion, and come in,

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they come in and disrupt and they leave.

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Speaker 2: We saw it with Black Lives Matter. They go from

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city to city to city.

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Speaker 3: You see this in La it's in Seattle, they did

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some demonstrations in Arizona, and the true like I said,

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the true demonstrators are probably have endurance, but it's weak.

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Like they'll stand on the side of the road with

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their signs.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're you're.

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Speaker 1: Looking at another summer of love, like you don't know, you.

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Speaker 2: Don't It could be. I can't predict it. It could be.

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Speaker 3: You know, with Donald Trump in office, I think he's

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gonna he's gonna lay the hammer down a lot harder

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than he did last time.

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Speaker 2: But who knows. You know, Arizona is.

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Speaker 3: Too hot, so after they just got about do their dirt.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly like that. You can only do it for

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a few hours. And everybody's like, Okay, we're in California.

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Speaker 2: The weather is beautiful.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can set up on the side of

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freeway with a nice ocean breeze and you'll be fine.

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Speaker 2: You come Arizona, you'll die out here. It's so true.

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They're not even throwing you waters and stuff, you know,

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the activists out of water.

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Speaker 3: It's you.

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Speaker 4: We're just preheating here. So it's so true. Yeah, come

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on out here.

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Speaker 2: I want them to come out here and pass out

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in the middle.

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Speaker 1: See you don't think the no Kings, this protest that's

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happening the same day as the military parade, you don't

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think that's gonna be because you know, when you look

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at the map of where all of the protests are

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my schedule to take place, it's literally it covers the

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entire country. But that requires you know, people in every

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single one of those cities to actually show up and

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show out.

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Speaker 2: Is disproportionate, right.

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Speaker 3: You know, La is huge, man, there's millions and millions,

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tens of millions of people that live in La. So

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it's gonna be the biggest display of people coming out

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and acting. The food Arizona, you know, you got you

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got that. Tucson, I mean, nobody's gonna be protest Tucson

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like that. They'll probably be fifty people, you know, and

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they just paying the same fifty people twenty times and

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make it look like it's really a protest. You know,

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you see them at the Capitol building. And Phoenix is big,

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and Phoenix about four million people live in Phoenix Valley,

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and so you're gonna have you know, maybe two hundred

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people here for twenty four hours. Maybe you know, you

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go to Denver, you go, you go places in Texas.

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Speaker 4: I mean in Austin, we have all all of our

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protesters are in Austin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and these people are kind of weak in Austin.

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California is the absolute worst out of any place, So

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totally that place is gonna be egregiously hired, you know,

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propensity for violence and stuff than anywhere else.

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Speaker 2: But you you know, in Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Is bad too, and you got these San Francisco is bad.

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So I don't think we're gonna I don't know. I

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don't know, you guys, that's a great question. Are we

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gonna really see what happened in twenty twenty. I think

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the American people are sick of it, Like you know,

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I think that in llegal aliens George Floyd getting killed,

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which we which I think was more visceral than illegal

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aliens getting arrested because they're illegally in this country. Because

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I kind of think people are sick of them anyway.

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And I'm not saying all of them, but I think

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some people that are working class people are like oode

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this Catholic speak English, they're doing this, They're doing that.

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They I see them killing people in the street. They

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out here taking jobs and they're home depot. They just

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bugging like people get people, it's in their face more

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and they get sick of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think that they're less lenient.

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Speaker 5: I think especially we're sick of it when the Mexican

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president is like, oh yeah, I totally support the protesters

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because I mean that just shows that that Mexico wants

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the destabilization of America and it's like, wait a second,

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everything is shifted now. So Americans, a lot of thinking

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working class Americans who pay the bills, they are getting

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really kicked off. They're like this is not okay, Like

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we're the ones who are going to work every day,

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We're paying for all this crap.

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Speaker 4: We are tired of it. We are.

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Speaker 2: Or the immigrants, the immigrants who.

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Speaker 4: Sing in line forever like yeah, I mean these.

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Speaker 3: Spines, or they still have people they're immigrants here and

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they still have people in other countries that can't even

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get here that are their family members. And I'm looking

477
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at them like, you guys just snug over here twenty

478
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four hours ago and you got more benefits than we do.

479
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think they feel a pressure too.

481
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Speaker 4: Total.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that like Trump with the escalation in

483
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the military and the National Guard. Do you think that

484
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that is going Do you think he'll continue to have

485
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support for that, or do you feel like that's like

486
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a dangerous line that he might be balancing right now?

487
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Speaker 3: It could be dangerous depending on how violent to get right.

488
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I mean, you never want to see a video of

489
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National Guard troop shooting and killing people.

490
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Speaker 4: Right right right?

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if the protests are bold enough to

493
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escalate it to that point, but there is a point

494
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of escalation that could result in deadly force being used

495
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against people that are throwing malt off cocktails, and when

496
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they back them in the corner, they can't defend themselves.

497
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They're going to have to use force that necessary to

498
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prevent them from killing the national Guard people. I don't

499
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know if they're bold enough to take a two two

500
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three round to the chest. So I don't really think

501
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we'll see it escalate, but I kind of think that

502
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Karen Bass and some of the other Democrats want to

503
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see it escalate to the point of extreme violence, and

504
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then they're gonna say, look at the copsdruret out here

505
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,799
killings innocent people that are shooting people with kids, Look

506
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at how violent they are, and then I think the public,

507
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because a lot of people are soft, will beginning to turn.

508
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But like I said, I don't know if they can

509
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push law enforcement with their technologies that they have today,

510
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they can push them as far as to create an

511
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environment like that, but I think that's what they want

512
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it to do. They want the scenes remember back in

513
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the day in the Civil Rights movement where they had

514
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the scenes of them sicking the.

515
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Speaker 2: Dogs on black people. They want those videos of.

516
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Speaker 3: The tax and the innocent people getting bit by k

517
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nines and pepper spread in the eyes of grandma and

518
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kids choking on you know, gas or whatever. They want

519
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that imagery so they say, look at the dictatorship of

520
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,559
the Republicans and they can put it in ads.

521
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Speaker 2: I think that's what they're striving for.

522
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Speaker 3: I don't know if they're going to get it, because

523
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I think that the military and police are smarter than

524
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they were back in the LA riots before and back

525
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in the Civil Rights movement, where they understand optics.

526
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Speaker 5: They also have the media on their side, and they

527
00:23:21,599 --> 00:23:23,759
know that if they do get it escalated like that,

528
00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:26,519
they can use clips to their advantage because they have

529
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people on TV, like on ABC right now saying O

530
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these people.

531
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Speaker 4: Are just having fun burning cars. It's just fine.

532
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,079
Speaker 3: But you know, the summer love really like burnt their cover,

533
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you know, like they really were able to protect themselves

534
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,640
under that initially, but then people started realizing, like, oh, no,

535
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,559
my city is burning down. They say, oh, it's mostly

536
00:23:44,599 --> 00:23:46,839
peaceful protests and a building is burning in the background,

537
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:54,160
like what it wants. People like us alternative media point

538
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,240
these things out. I think the public are like, well,

539
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,119
wait a minute, they said it was peaceful, those billions

540
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,720
of dollars of damage. Oh, people got killed, Oh this

541
00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:04,279
person got injured. And then now when they want to

542
00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:07,160
repeat that again. People aren't listening to the mainstream media anymore.

543
00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:09,680
Donald Trump has truth social, so they could listen to

544
00:24:09,759 --> 00:24:13,240
him on true social. You got X's unfiltered, you have

545
00:24:13,559 --> 00:24:16,400
all of the mainstream. I'm telling you we didn't exist

546
00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:21,039
in twenty fifteen. We weren't as prolific, and I'm saying

547
00:24:21,079 --> 00:24:25,000
people like us weren't as prolific in twenty twenty. Twenty

548
00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:27,839
twenty is when we saw a ramp up and people

549
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,319
really going to alternative media.

550
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,839
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five, we are the media. People are coming

551
00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:36,039
to us, whether they like us or not. Whether they're

552
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Republican or not.

553
00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 3: They are catching glimpses of us on Instagram reels, and

554
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,960
so they're not they're not going to be food when

555
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,799
they see looting at these stores. And now we can

556
00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:49,960
pop up on the scene and interview the store owner

557
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,599
and that clip goes viral.

558
00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: Now the only danger is like people are like, is

559
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,839
that real or is it ai? Because that's becoming a

560
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,799
genuine concern, right, It's a genuine thing that we got

561
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to worry about.

562
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Speaker 5: And furthermore, people should not be bringing kids to these protests.

563
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,279
Speaker 3: No, you can see. You can see, to be honest,

564
00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:12,720
you can see there's no kids there. And the reason

565
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,279
why because it's not a legitimate protest. I think that

566
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,200
a lot of these people will pay agitators. They go

567
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,440
from city to city to city. In LA, they got

568
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,880
a group of people that will go from LA. Now

569
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,319
San Diego is a little more conservative, but they go

570
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,640
from LA to other cities and they go to San

571
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,599
Francisco and then they move over to Portland, Oregon. You know,

572
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especially those are the northern California. They probably drive up

573
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,880
to Portland or fly or whatever they do. They go

574
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,440
from Oregon to Seattle, Washington, I think that these people

575
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,480
are paid protesters, like they're traveling protesters. They did the

576
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,799
same thing in Ferguson. Remember when when Michael Brown shooting

577
00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:52,559
in Ferguson. It was later on they reported that, No,

578
00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:54,720
these people don't even live here. There's a ton of

579
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,400
people that don't even live here. In the Black Lives

580
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Matter riots, you were getting people in these cities that

581
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they were like, no, no, people escalated, No, we were just

582
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,640
having a protest at night. They came and blew up

583
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,920
stuff and then they left. How all of a sudden,

584
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,640
these people leave and we never see them again.

585
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 4: It's coordinated.

586
00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 2: It's coordinated to a large degree.

587
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw they were passing out riot gear like

588
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,160
some of the Yeah, I saw.

589
00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:20,039
Speaker 3: A video of a van pulls up. They're passing out masks,

590
00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:24,480
and they setting up rocks in places. And that's what

591
00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:27,880
it is. This is not organic. Organic is people going to.

592
00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: Work every day and signs they're not pre printed.

593
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Speaker 3: How many illegal aliens are protesting? Probably none. They're working.

594
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,079
A lot of these people that work, I mean, I'm

595
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,000
being honest, Like there's a criminal element, but then there's

596
00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:46,160
the element of these people that just out here working

597
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:46,599
every day.

598
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Speaker 5: And they're working, and they're working, and they're hiding exactly

599
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,160
because because that's the thing we talked about this morning

600
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,160
on our show, is that it used to be. Maybe

601
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,359
I'm completely wrong about this, but it used to be

602
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,119
back in our day, illegal aliens, you to, they used

603
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:01,680
to kind.

604
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 4: Of hide, you know what I mean. They didn't want

605
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,200
to be out there, so they'd be like, Hi, I'm illegal.

606
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,279
Speaker 3: Many of them who are intelligent, and I'm just saying this,

607
00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:12,799
I think that if I'm gonna be honest, I think

608
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:14,720
probably eighty percent of the people that come over here

609
00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:17,759
illegally come over here just for a better opportunity.

610
00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: They're wrong, they.

611
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,279
Speaker 3: Need to go home, but I think they come over

612
00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:23,119
here for a better opportunity. And they come over here

613
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,160
and they work. They get their head down, They work

614
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,440
on construction site, They work on these places where they

615
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,480
don't need education, they don't need to speak English. They

616
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,920
were at the carnival, And when I was in Fort

617
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,200
Worth the other day, it was a bunch of the

618
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:33,920
carnival They couldn't even speak English. But they know how

619
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,000
to do the joystick on the ride and make its

620
00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:39,119
go in circles and take all your money. Try to

621
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,799
hit that balloon that never pop. But you know, so

622
00:27:43,079 --> 00:27:45,119
they have people working like that, what are they doing.

623
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,119
They're not hurt nobody, at least they're not trying to.

624
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,880
They're just trying to go to work and they're not

625
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,720
trying to get involved with the police. But what I

626
00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:53,920
will say is this, there's the underbelly of that. You

627
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,640
have those who come over here with the farious means.

628
00:27:56,759 --> 00:27:58,759
They come over here to cosse problems. They come over

629
00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:01,440
here and they peel it people and they and they

630
00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:05,920
attack and they and they abuse other illegals. Because we

631
00:28:06,039 --> 00:28:09,119
used to have this problem in Tucson. Illegal aliens don't

632
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,200
want to call the police because they don't want to

633
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,200
they don't want to end up getting deported, right, So

634
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,319
you abuse it any.

635
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,519
Speaker 2: Alien, they won't say anything.

636
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:24,039
Speaker 3: And the illegals that are doing the farious things will rob, kill, rape,

637
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,480
you know, abuse children, abduct children, they'll do It's a

638
00:28:28,519 --> 00:28:29,519
whole underbelly.

639
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,519
Speaker 2: And what happens when your child gets abducted. You can't

640
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:34,079
speak English.

641
00:28:34,279 --> 00:28:36,799
Speaker 3: In some cases they're afraid of the police because they're like, well,

642
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,799
my kid is abducted, I'm gonna get deported.

643
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,759
Speaker 2: I'll just try to pay a ransom.

644
00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: You know, it's this whole criminal element that I think

645
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:49,519
it's very sad that these governors and mayors don't address.

646
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,920
They just say, all these people are just working. No,

647
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:54,960
some of them are trying. But then there's people that

648
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,079
are taking advantage of the system. That's why you see

649
00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:59,559
these gangs that are coming over here and doing drugs,

650
00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:02,160
selling drugs and doing all this other criminal activity. That's

651
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,240
why you see all those people on the lawn at

652
00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:06,680
the White House, of all these criminals that are doing

653
00:29:06,839 --> 00:29:10,480
heinous crimes. They are not here to work, They're not

654
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:12,680
here to do the right thing. They're here to cause

655
00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:14,680
chaos and facilitate that.

656
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:18,119
Speaker 1: It's literally all Joe Biden's fault, I.

657
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,079
Speaker 3: Think, to be honest, it is you can't blame anybody else.

658
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:25,599
Because Barack Obama is as uh, you know, sweet talking

659
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,160
as he was. He deported more people than anybody in

660
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,640
American history. So he may have alluded to the compassionate man,

661
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,759
he really didn't. He actually said don't come over here,

662
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:36,640
you're gonna go to You're gonna get deported.

663
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: And judges didn't stop him from getting people.

664
00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: Because it's because you guys know this just as well

665
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,160
as everybody watching, it's all bull crap.

666
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: It's theater.

667
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,519
Speaker 3: Obama did it, he was virtuous, it was right to do.

668
00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:51,279
The Democrats stood by him and say, do whatever whatever.

669
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,359
The Republicans were the problems allowing people to come over here,

670
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:56,119
choosing cheap labor.

671
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,519
Speaker 2: This is what they accused the Republicans of doing. But

672
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then when the Republicans just.

673
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Speaker 3: Reiterate or re engage in the actions of the Democrats

674
00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:08,799
democratic predecessors, they go, oh, this is you. Like, for instance,

675
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,799
we know the big story of the children in cages.

676
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,799
Barack Obama's administration started the cages, they built the cages,

677
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:20,200
they toured the facility under his administration on television, reported widely.

678
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,039
And then when Trump mentions it how he's separating kids,

679
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they go to the board and cry. The same people

680
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,720
that watch Barack Obama do it, that attended when he

681
00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:33,400
did it, cries when Donald Trump does it a few

682
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,720
years later, it's insane.

683
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Speaker 2: It's theater.

684
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Speaker 3: It's not real. It would do anything to win and

685
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gain power.

686
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a topic that you would have a lot of thoughts on,

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