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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Auction Brief.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a joy in these games.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking you on a journey through fantasy football, the law,

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<v Speaker 2>How much you want, and now you're legal analyst and

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<v Speaker 1>Dominate your fantasy drafts. Your host, Drew Davenport, there are

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<v Speaker 1>full hearts.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody, Welcome into the Auction Brief. As the lady said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your host, Drew Davenport, and thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for joining me for another episode. As you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>have one goal here on the Auction Brief, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is to help all of you win more titles. And

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<v Speaker 2>one of the ways that we do that is by

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<v Speaker 2>bringing the best and brightest minds in the fantasy community

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<v Speaker 2>on here from my weekly disc Dicussions with Drew. These

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<v Speaker 2>conversations are there to help you with the most difficult

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<v Speaker 2>fantasy situations you're going to face in your drafts this summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's not delay. Let's get right to this week's guest

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<v Speaker 2>on another installment of Discussions with Drew.

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<v Speaker 3>Time for Discussions with Drew, in depth conversations with the

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<v Speaker 3>brightest minds in the fantasy industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome into this week's discussions with Drew. Our guest for

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<v Speaker 2>us this week is somebody that you probably already know

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<v Speaker 2>from seeing his beautiful face on television with NFL Media,

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<v Speaker 2>mister Marcus Grant, who also happens to hold the record

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<v Speaker 2>for most appearances on the Auction Brief. As a result,

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<v Speaker 2>he's one of my favorite people on earth, not just

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<v Speaker 2>because he's such a easy guy to get on the

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<v Speaker 2>show and talk to and a great analyst, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>also become a good friend. So welcome to the show, Marcus.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing, man, I'm good man. It's good to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you again.

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<v Speaker 4>That this this show, there are a couple things that

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<v Speaker 4>are sort of time markers for me during the off season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, it's this.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the Fantasy Football Expo, kind of the Hall of

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<v Speaker 4>Fame games at all rolled into one.

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<v Speaker 1>These let me know.

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<v Speaker 4>That, okay, about where I am in the summer in

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<v Speaker 4>the off season, and about when it starts it's time

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<v Speaker 4>to start getting my mind right for the next season

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<v Speaker 4>to come.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this because this is easily your eighth or

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<v Speaker 2>something appearance on.

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<v Speaker 1>That I feel like I'm the Steve Martin of this

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<v Speaker 1>show right. What it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm old enough to get that reference. So yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>I love having you on because the conversations are always

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<v Speaker 2>really easy. You've got a lot of insight, and like

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<v Speaker 2>I've always said, your television, your your answers are made

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<v Speaker 2>for television, so they're always just wrapped up in a

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<v Speaker 2>neat little bow and I love it. So pressures on man.

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<v Speaker 2>But we can find Marcus on Twitter at M A

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<v Speaker 2>R C A SG that's Marcus G. He's also with

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<v Speaker 2>ESPN Los Angeles doing a show. Is that just totally

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<v Speaker 2>Dodger stuff?

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<v Speaker 4>It all als so I'm doing I'm doing Dodger stuff

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<v Speaker 4>every morning. If you're on the West coast at six

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<v Speaker 4>thirty am, it's more reasonable in the East coast at

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<v Speaker 4>nine thirty am.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Dodger live stream.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I do some fill in hosting, so you know,

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<v Speaker 4>whenever there's somebody down, vacation, sick, whatever, I'll jump in

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<v Speaker 4>there and host some radio shows too. So that's that

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<v Speaker 4>is a lot more general kind of sports talk at

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<v Speaker 4>that point.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you're also with MB Fantasy Life here with

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<v Speaker 2>Barry's Fantasy Life. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've been doing stuff with them for a while.

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<v Speaker 4>Shout out to Matthew Berry and the guys over there,

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<v Speaker 4>guys and girls over there. You know, they got the

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<v Speaker 4>very talented kindle Venezuela. I think Chris Allen is doing

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<v Speaker 4>some things over there occasionally as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been fortunate enough to be there for a few years.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, I originally kind of got recruited by them

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<v Speaker 4>at a.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantasy football expo several years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I by chance met Dwayne McFarlane there and met Elliott

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<v Speaker 4>Christ And then a couple of weeks later, Elliott's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>have you ever met Dwayne McFarlane.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you should ask? Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>We hung out and he's like, hey, I'd like for

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<v Speaker 4>you guys to do a podcast together.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was probably four or five years ago something

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's been fun to watch this, watch that company

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<v Speaker 4>grow and blossom into something really kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know, it's funny because Dwayne, I believe

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<v Speaker 2>that's the only expo he's been to and he hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been back, right. I think we went a little hard

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<v Speaker 2>night one. I won't tell that story in the public,

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<v Speaker 2>but we went a little hard night one and I

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<v Speaker 2>think we just we ruined the expo for him. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just kidding, but he hasn't been back. We've been

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<v Speaker 2>bugging him to get back. So hopefully, Dwayne, I know

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<v Speaker 2>Dwayn's listening to the show, wink wink. But yeah, hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see him again out there. But I know I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to see you and Canton. We were just talking

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<v Speaker 2>about you and Florio. You guys are making it back.

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<v Speaker 4>We are going to make it back. I've got my tickets.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to figure out some of the other accommodations.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. Florio bought his expo ticket.

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<v Speaker 4>He will be there on the contingency that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>just explode for euphoria at the New York Knicks parade.

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<v Speaker 1>He went to the Knicks parade.

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<v Speaker 4>It is the first time he's ever seen one of

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<v Speaker 4>his teams win a championship. He sees his favorite of

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<v Speaker 4>all his sports teams, and Knicks are easily his favorite.

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<v Speaker 4>So he got to be there for the parade. So

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<v Speaker 4>hopefully he doesn't just ascend into the clouds. If he

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<v Speaker 4>somehow is still on planet Earth, he will be in camp.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. Well, I met him what two years ago

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<v Speaker 2>and just had a blast with both of you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was really I bugged him about a month

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<v Speaker 2>ago and I was like, dude, you better be in campon, like,

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell me you're not coming. So I'm glad to

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<v Speaker 2>hear he's coming because I think it was at Froton

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<v Speaker 2>that didn't come last year, and there was a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of people last year that I'm like, I, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just like you said, your watch by a couple things.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the summer, I only see a couple people like

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<v Speaker 2>that in Canton, So I'm really hoping to see all

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<v Speaker 2>those folks. But glad you and Floria were going to

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<v Speaker 2>be there. But hey, let's get to the business of

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<v Speaker 2>the day. I could hang out and talk all day long,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're going to do that in July. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to keep the show a little bit tighter this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's kind of snickering behind my back because I do

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<v Speaker 2>run my mouth a lot and these shows go long.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did a less aggressive show sheet with you

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<v Speaker 2>today so that we could get to all of it

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<v Speaker 2>and we can kind of hit off. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>hit super exciting stuff like you know, Titans wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be scintillating podcast conversation here.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Hey, I want to start with a thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>foot view, because my favorite thing to do in the

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<v Speaker 2>off season is I spend the month of June talking

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<v Speaker 2>about what happened last year and what we can take

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<v Speaker 2>into twenty twenty six that we feel like is going

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<v Speaker 2>to help us as fantasy players going forward. Is there

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<v Speaker 2>something that pops into your head that you learned in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five or had to relearn that you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to make sure that this is in my

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<v Speaker 2>mind when I'm drafted this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was solidified in twenty twenty five, but

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a lesson that's been building over the

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<v Speaker 4>last couple of years, and it's that tight ends are

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<v Speaker 4>now worth the swing. It's worth taking a shot at

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<v Speaker 4>some of these guys. I mean, and you know this

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<v Speaker 4>for years, the discourse around rookie tight ends is that, well,

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<v Speaker 4>it takes guys a couple of years at that position

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<v Speaker 4>to become fantasy relevant and to become productive. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think we've seen that sort of fall away, right when

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<v Speaker 4>you look at Sam Laporta having his big rookie year

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<v Speaker 4>and then Rock Bauers coming in having a big rookie year,

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<v Speaker 4>Tyler Warren stepping in and doing big things as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 4>and even Colston Lovelan sort of the back half of

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<v Speaker 4>his rookie year really starting to step up. I think

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<v Speaker 4>because of the way teams are operating in.

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<v Speaker 1>The NFL with a tight end position.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you've sort of specialized it where you've got your

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<v Speaker 4>in line tight ends, your guys who can block and

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<v Speaker 4>be a part of the run game. But now you're

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<v Speaker 4>seeing more teams use sort of that move tight end,

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<v Speaker 4>that more athletic pass catcher, almost like a big slot guy,

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<v Speaker 4>And essentially teams are telling that player, hey, yeah, eventually

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<v Speaker 4>we maybe like you to block occasionally, but right now

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<v Speaker 4>your primary job is to go out there, run routes,

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<v Speaker 4>get open and be a weapon in the passing game.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, of course, you got Sean McVay, who I

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<v Speaker 4>think at some point is going to like, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if like fifteen personnel is a thing, but if so,

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<v Speaker 4>he may try to figure out how to do that

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<v Speaker 4>with They collect tight ends in LA like Pokemon.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of insane.

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<v Speaker 4>But I do think when you look around the league

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<v Speaker 4>and you see say a Kenyon Sadiq with the Jets.

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<v Speaker 4>When you see in Eli Stowers in Philadelphia, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>at the right price, I think they are worth adding

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<v Speaker 4>to your rosters, whether it's in redraft, whether it's in

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<v Speaker 4>auction leagues, whatever, because we're seeing some more of these

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<v Speaker 4>guys really be productive right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I think you're a comment about Sadiq's interesting too,

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<v Speaker 2>because one of the things that I keep seeing is

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<v Speaker 2>these guys they continue to draft tight ends even when

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<v Speaker 2>they've got guys on the roster they like. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>Vegas did with Bowers, and they had may Or on

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<v Speaker 2>the roster already in Sadik and they've got Mason Taylor still.

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<v Speaker 2>So there. There is definitely a movement in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've certainly been talking about that on the auction

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<v Speaker 2>brief already. And I love the McVeigh joke. I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to go, I was going to make a joke

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<v Speaker 2>about fourteen personnel. He got there before I can make it,

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<v Speaker 2>But it's true. It's a great point. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>an excellent highlight because I have been one personally to

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<v Speaker 2>be a little bit slow on the rookie tight end uptake.

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<v Speaker 2>I've just not been willing to invest in some of

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<v Speaker 2>these guys in the rookie season, and it's clear that

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<v Speaker 2>that's a mistake right now and it's something I need

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<v Speaker 2>to correct. So I love the start here for us

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<v Speaker 2>Beyond twenty twenty five, I want to turn to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six and talk a little bit about what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on right now. We sit here near the end of June.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got our little break going on for about the

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<v Speaker 2>next three to four weeks. Before training camp opens, things

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<v Speaker 2>really ramp up. There's some narratives that are getting going

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<v Speaker 2>on some teams, and I know there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>exciting fantasy offenses out there that we want to talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're not going to talk about that. I told

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't want to talk about the Jets,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody does. But are they going to be a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit better with some more competent quarterback play? And then

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<v Speaker 2>what do we think about Aaron Glenn? And he's talking

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<v Speaker 2>about a three headed monster. And I know that they

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<v Speaker 2>the ball a lot, right, I mean, what do we

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when when they decided that they weren't just gonna

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<v Speaker 4>We're like, oh, you know, it's like, please free Breeze.

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<v Speaker 4>Let him go somewhere and prosper and blossom. I do

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<v Speaker 4>think he's going to get touches. I am walking into

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<v Speaker 4>this season being very cautious about the Jets, like it

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<v Speaker 4>really going to depend on how excited people are about

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<v Speaker 4>these guys. I think there's a collective sort of like

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<v Speaker 4>you know that, Like I think you look around and

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, there's potential there, but Jets. So I think

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<v Speaker 4>I've been kind of hands off so far with Breeze Hall,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think once I really start getting heavily into drafting,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, for me, I don't know that I want

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<v Speaker 4>him as more than a low end RB two, just

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<v Speaker 4>because I don't. I just don't trust the Jets. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's mostly what it is. I don't trust him

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<v Speaker 4>to do right by some of their talented players. I

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<v Speaker 4>sort of like that we have kind of come to

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<v Speaker 4>that he is probably again a low end wide receiver too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember when we first came in the league, everybody's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this is the next big thing. They were drafting him

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<v Speaker 4>late first round, early second round, and he's he's just

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<v Speaker 4>never been that guy. Of some of it is quarterback twice,

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<v Speaker 4>but they just haven't had guys to get him the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think some of it is just that I

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<v Speaker 4>think we sort of overvalued who he is on the

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<v Speaker 4>NFL level, So you know, I'm very cautious about them.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I just mentioned Kenyon Sadik. I think the

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<v Speaker 4>value is there just mostly because of the position, right,

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<v Speaker 4>just because there isn't as much depth that tied it in.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's the guy that I'm sort of maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>It all depends on what version of Geno Smith shows up.

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<v Speaker 4>If it is the you know they wrote me off

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<v Speaker 4>I and right back though. If it's that version of

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<v Speaker 4>Geno Smith, then I think we can be really excited

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<v Speaker 4>about what the Jets are. If it is the version

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<v Speaker 4>of Geno Smith we saw in Las Vegas, then we're

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<v Speaker 4>all going to be really really disappointed by it. And

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<v Speaker 4>so for that reason, I think, yeah, I will probably

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<v Speaker 4>take my shots at Breese Hall A Gary Wilson because

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<v Speaker 4>I'll do enough drafts where they'll they'll be on the board.

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<v Speaker 4>But I will say that for the most part, I

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<v Speaker 4>think I'm going to just take a step back and

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<v Speaker 4>let other people sort of figure out what's going on there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when I was looking at ADP before we did

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<v Speaker 2>the show, and I saw the Breeshall still hanging around

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<v Speaker 2>RB fourteen, it just feels too rich. It feels weird

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<v Speaker 2>because especially the comments from Glenn. Again, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>that Breeshall is not going to lead this committee and

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<v Speaker 2>that I still think he's a lock for two twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and fifty touches, but RB fourteen still feels

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit rich. I will say that I did

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<v Speaker 2>a mock auction the other night where he went for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two bucks. That feels a lot better. I'm cool

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<v Speaker 2>with that, but I don't believe twenty two bucks translates

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<v Speaker 2>to RB fourteen. I think that translates more to the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of RB two territory. I'm more excited in an

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<v Speaker 2>auction for that low twenties than I am for where

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<v Speaker 2>he's going in snake drafts, you know, the geno thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird to me. He's got to be better, right,

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<v Speaker 2>right than what they had.

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>If the Falcons have taught me anything over the last

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<v Speaker 4>few years. It's that it doesn't necessarily have to be better, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we went through Marcus Mariota and it's like, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Michael Pennix has to be better, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>not necessarily. You know they had the broken down statue.

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<v Speaker 4>That was Kirk Cousins trying to come back for a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit. I mean, every time we look at the

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<v Speaker 4>Falcons are like, well, it has to be better, right

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<v Speaker 4>and it hasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Necessarily been better.

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<v Speaker 4>So you talk about lessons from twenty twenty five that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm taking into twenty twenty six, one of them is

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<v Speaker 4>that it doesn't always have to be better just because

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<v Speaker 4>you changed your quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's very true, very true. Well, I've got an

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<v Speaker 2>even more exciting offense that we can talk about. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the Tennessee Titans. So are you excited? He's properly excited

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<v Speaker 2>and he's sat up in his chair. Nobody can see it.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, we're talking about some value. There's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>some value. And I was a little bit surprised to

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<v Speaker 2>see that Carnell Tait is actually going off about wide

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<v Speaker 2>receiver thirty right now. And people have completely written off

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<v Speaker 2>Wandale Robinson. Now, I had a lot of success last

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<v Speaker 2>year in fantasy football with Wandale Robinson on my team

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<v Speaker 2>because he was so cheap, and it looks like it's

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<v Speaker 2>happening again. Now, I'm not sure that we're in a

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<v Speaker 2>much worse situation than he was last year with the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks he was playing with. Maybe it's slightly worse. We

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<v Speaker 2>certainly haven't heard good things about cam Ward from Mini camp,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a little concerning because it's like Mini camp

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<v Speaker 2>should be where we get all the glowing reports, and

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't hear a lot of great stuff about Ward.

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<v Speaker 2>But boy, it sure feels like Robinson's being left for dead.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you make of this wide receiver corp in Tennessee?

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<v Speaker 4>I So I will start by saying that last year

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<v Speaker 4>I was big on elec Iomanner as a late round sleeper,

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<v Speaker 4>and there are a few weeks that he really did

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<v Speaker 4>sort of provide some value for you, but eventually has

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<v Speaker 4>to be expected for a guy that was when a

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<v Speaker 4>day three picked. I mean, eventually he sort of fell off,

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<v Speaker 4>not a major surprise, but also it didn't hurt necessarily

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<v Speaker 4>because you didn't invest very heavily in him or chim Dka,

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<v Speaker 4>So that was okay. Wandel Robinsonty has some value. I

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<v Speaker 4>will also give you the caveat Look, we live in

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<v Speaker 4>a PPR world, right, That's just what it is now.

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<v Speaker 4>Wandale Robinson is one of the guys who has radicalized

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<v Speaker 4>me against full point PPRU because there's nothing like the

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<v Speaker 4>the Wandale Robinson ten catch sixty five yard game or

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<v Speaker 4>something like that, and then he gets like it, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and then all of a sudden're looking at sixteen seventeen

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<v Speaker 4>points and if he scores a touchdown at the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>three point game, and it's like, but you didn't really

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<v Speaker 4>do anything but that.

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<v Speaker 2>I had my mic off, but I gave you a

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<v Speaker 2>hearty laugh there on the one the radicalization against PPR, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead that aside.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this is the world we live in, so

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<v Speaker 4>why not take advantage of it. I think he can

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<v Speaker 4>be a little more productive than that. I'm I'm intrigued

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<v Speaker 4>by Carnal Tate because again, you saw cam Ward kind

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<v Speaker 4>of occasionally do some things with.

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<v Speaker 1>Some day three wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 4>So now the Titans look like they're investing at the

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<v Speaker 4>wide receiver position to try to help cam Ward out.

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<v Speaker 4>The other piece to this, though, is I need for

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<v Speaker 4>Tennessee to do something about that offensive line because on

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<v Speaker 4>the occasions I watched the Titans last year, the passing

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<v Speaker 4>game basically was cam Ward drops back and either chucks

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<v Speaker 4>it immediately or starts scrambling and rolling out.

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<v Speaker 1>And then chucks the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>But either way, it wasn't a whole lot of cam

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<v Speaker 4>Wards standing there with time to survey the field, go

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<v Speaker 4>through his reads, and then make a play. So if

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<v Speaker 4>they can do something to at least give him a

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<v Speaker 4>little more time to get the ball out, then I

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<v Speaker 4>think you're gonna see a lot more production out of

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<v Speaker 4>Robinson and especially out of Tate.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was looking.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I saw Carneal Tate somewhere around wide receiver

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<v Speaker 4>thirty or something like that, which is not necessarily terrible,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I can I can sort of rock with that,

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<v Speaker 4>especially if if I go heavy wide receiver early, then

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<v Speaker 4>I think I can take Tate and have him as

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<v Speaker 4>feel a little better about him there.

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<v Speaker 2>I tend to agree with you there. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>just quickly looking up offensive line rankings. Football guys, has

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Patonti does our offensive line rankings. He has them.

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<v Speaker 2>Still is the twenty sixth ranked offensive That sounds about right.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really feel like they did a whole lot

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<v Speaker 2>to upgrade, So to your point, it still could continue

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<v Speaker 2>to be a problem. I just I'm very nervous about

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<v Speaker 2>the entire offensive environment. And then we've got the little

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<v Speaker 2>thorn in the side, Calvin Ridley, still hanging out there

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get work. It really seems like it could

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<v Speaker 2>be a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I sometimes literally forget Calvin Ridley exists.

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<v Speaker 4>I say, you know which, I think your description of

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<v Speaker 4>him as a thorn in the side is probably perfect because, like,

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<v Speaker 4>if you are unfortunate enough to draft him, like I

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<v Speaker 4>don't feel like you don't target Calvin Ridley, you just.

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of end up with Calvin. It's one of those

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<v Speaker 4>As soon as you hit as soon as you click

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<v Speaker 4>the button that says draft, you probably also let out

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<v Speaker 4>a big sigh like okay, and you know there'll be

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<v Speaker 4>those one or two games where he gives you you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you'll get eighteen points out of him, right, and you're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>that was really cool, And then the rest of the time,

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<v Speaker 4>when you're getting like five to seven, you're gonna be annoyed.

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<v Speaker 4>What's gonna happen is he'll do just enough that you

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<v Speaker 4>know he's going to make life miserable for everybody else

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<v Speaker 4>that if you have Tate. If you have Robinson, Calvin

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<v Speaker 4>Ridley's gonna do just enough to take food off their

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<v Speaker 4>plate and frustrate you, but not enough that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be like, Man, I gotta get Calvin Ridley in my

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<v Speaker 4>lineup every week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It sure seems like we were expecting him to

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<v Speaker 2>come back from the suspension a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 2>and be the guy that he was before. We have

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<v Speaker 2>never seen it, except for some flashes, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think it's time to give up on that

424
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<v Speaker 2>whole prospect unless we have significant injuries that forces him

425
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<v Speaker 2>back into an alpha role, which I'm not really willing

426
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<v Speaker 2>to do that. But you know, at this point, what

427
00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:05.359
<v Speaker 2>is it an eighteenth or twenty round pick that doesn't

428
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<v Speaker 2>hurt us if we want to do that, but I'm

429
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<v Speaker 2>certainly not trying to. Okay, let's go to a slightly

430
00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:18.079
<v Speaker 2>more interesting offense down in New Orleans because we saw

431
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<v Speaker 2>at the end of last year what we think could

432
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<v Speaker 2>be the glimmer of hope for twenty twenty six. We

433
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<v Speaker 2>saw the rookie come in and play pretty well. We

434
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<v Speaker 2>know that Kellen Moore is a gifted offensive mind, and

435
00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:34.759
<v Speaker 2>I was looking into some personnel groupings, He ran a

436
00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:37.799
<v Speaker 2>lot of eleven personnel. Our buddy Pat Foreman does a

437
00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:40.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of pace work, says that they play pretty fast,

438
00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:45.640
<v Speaker 2>and then they went and drafted Jordan Tyson. So things

439
00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:49.680
<v Speaker 2>look optimistic in New Orleans. But I have to say,

440
00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:52.680
<v Speaker 2>we're we're certainly not talking about the Detroit Lions, but

441
00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:55.880
<v Speaker 2>the backfield is kind of weird too. So I guess,

442
00:20:55.920 --> 00:20:59.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe what's your snapshot of do you feel optimistic like

443
00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:02.799
<v Speaker 2>we should coming off of last year? And then we'll

444
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<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit about the backfield in a second.

445
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<v Speaker 4>I do, actually, I do feel optimistic. And I say

446
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<v Speaker 4>that as somebody who was skeptical of Tyler Shuck last year,

447
00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:13.640
<v Speaker 4>and so I had to admit that, hey man, this

448
00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:16.319
<v Speaker 4>dude has has exceeded what I thought he could be.

449
00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:19.000
<v Speaker 4>And on top of it, he sort of lifted a

450
00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:21.519
<v Speaker 4>lot of the guys around him. He made me excited

451
00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:24.720
<v Speaker 4>about Chris Olave again, right, He got me excited about

452
00:21:24.720 --> 00:21:26.720
<v Speaker 4>what was going to happen in that offense. And so

453
00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:30.519
<v Speaker 4>I do have some optimism around the Saints' offense. You

454
00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:33.759
<v Speaker 4>mentioned Kellen Moore and guy kind of on the sticks

455
00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:35.720
<v Speaker 4>as they would. You know, he's on the one he's

456
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<v Speaker 4>the one the controller. It does give me some reason

457
00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:41.039
<v Speaker 4>to sort of hope. I mean, I don't think I'm

458
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<v Speaker 4>making Tyler Shuck my every week quarterback. But if I decide,

459
00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:47.440
<v Speaker 4>then I'm gonna wait on a quarterback, and at that

460
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<v Speaker 4>point I'll probably end up taking two guys. I don't

461
00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:52.440
<v Speaker 4>know that I'd feel terrible with Tyler Shuck as my

462
00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:55.440
<v Speaker 4>QB two and playing him in the right spots. And

463
00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:59.039
<v Speaker 4>it's got me excited about drafting Chris o'lave again. It's

464
00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:02.640
<v Speaker 4>funny our power. Lakwan Jones had a chance to run

465
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<v Speaker 4>into him. He was down in New Orleans for I

466
00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:07.000
<v Speaker 4>think an HBCU event or something like that, and ran

467
00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:09.279
<v Speaker 4>into Chris o'lave and I sort of asked him, this

468
00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:12.440
<v Speaker 4>is before the draft, about how he would feel if

469
00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:15.160
<v Speaker 4>the Saints either got a wide receiver and free agency

470
00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:18.759
<v Speaker 4>or drafted went and Olave was diplomatic, but he sort

471
00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:20.480
<v Speaker 4>of turned his nose up at it. I think he was,

472
00:22:20.599 --> 00:22:22.799
<v Speaker 4>you know, it was more of a wide receiver being like,

473
00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:24.839
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to have to share targets with anybody.

474
00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:28.599
<v Speaker 1>But he also was very excited about Tyler Shuck.

475
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<v Speaker 4>And so that gave me reason to feel even better

476
00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:32.359
<v Speaker 4>about it, so to bring in a guy like Jordan

477
00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:35.519
<v Speaker 4>Tyson to pair him up with Chris o'lave. I do

478
00:22:35.519 --> 00:22:39.000
<v Speaker 4>think there's reason to be optimistic about the Saints. Weirdly,

479
00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:41.759
<v Speaker 4>this is a non fantasy take here, but I mean

480
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<v Speaker 4>it wouldn't be crazy when you look at that division,

481
00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:48.599
<v Speaker 4>if you know, maybe the Saints somehow squeaked in and

482
00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:51.000
<v Speaker 4>won the thing and got into the playoffs. I mean,

483
00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:55.519
<v Speaker 4>there's there's no real clear cut favorite in the NFC South.

484
00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:58.359
<v Speaker 4>So the Saints rising up and somehow winning it. Now,

485
00:22:58.359 --> 00:23:00.559
<v Speaker 4>mind you, they'll be like, you know, nine eight or

486
00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:03.000
<v Speaker 4>something like that, but that might be enough to win

487
00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:04.319
<v Speaker 4>the NFC South this year.

488
00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:06.960
<v Speaker 2>It might be. And I saw a funny meme the

489
00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:09.559
<v Speaker 2>other day where it was just the four helmets from

490
00:23:09.880 --> 00:23:12.799
<v Speaker 2>that division and they were all thinking the same thought bubble, like,

491
00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:16.200
<v Speaker 2>we're the easily the best team in this division, which

492
00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:20.960
<v Speaker 2>is definitely what they're all thinking. So yeah, I totally

493
00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:25.079
<v Speaker 2>agree with you about the optimism. I hope that Shuck

494
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<v Speaker 2>runs like he did a little bit last year, and

495
00:23:28.920 --> 00:23:32.079
<v Speaker 2>I hope that's part of the plan for him, because

496
00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:34.599
<v Speaker 2>fantasy wise, he could really turn into a really nice

497
00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:38.400
<v Speaker 2>QB two or have some flashes with low end QB

498
00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:42.039
<v Speaker 2>one upside on a weekly basis if he continues to run.

499
00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:44.720
<v Speaker 2>So I hope they do that. But let's talk about

500
00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:48.640
<v Speaker 2>their running game for a minute, because we know they try.

501
00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:53.240
<v Speaker 2>They signed Travis Chan, right, I knew that, didn't I

502
00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:57.079
<v Speaker 2>it's the all it's it's the all pronunciation backfield because

503
00:23:57.160 --> 00:24:00.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, I talked about the quarterback and I wasn't.

504
00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:03.359
<v Speaker 2>Can we settle this once and for all. It's pronounced

505
00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:06.440
<v Speaker 2>like s huc k. Is that right?

506
00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:07.599
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Correct?

507
00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:10.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's and you know I've been saying that it

508
00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:12.359
<v Speaker 2>feels weird to say it when you look at his name,

509
00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:14.359
<v Speaker 2>but I've been told that's the way to say it anyway.

510
00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:18.519
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, So they sign Chan away from Jacksonville, but

511
00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:21.720
<v Speaker 2>they've still got Alvin Kamara hanging around there and he's

512
00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:24.039
<v Speaker 2>pretty much been left for dead. I believe he's at

513
00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:27.200
<v Speaker 2>RB forty nine and like nobody wants to draft him.

514
00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Everybody's just completely given up on him. That feels a

515
00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:32.519
<v Speaker 2>little bit weird to me, especially in PPR, that people

516
00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:35.200
<v Speaker 2>are just ignoring him all together. I don't think that's

517
00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:37.799
<v Speaker 2>going to be the end result, but maybe I'm crazy here.

518
00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:40.039
<v Speaker 2>What do you think about how this backfield chakes out?

519
00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:45.000
<v Speaker 4>I was super excited to see Han go to New Orleans. Now, yeah,

520
00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:47.839
<v Speaker 4>Alvin Kamara is still there, but this sort of feels

521
00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:50.680
<v Speaker 4>like a thank you for your service. Like this feels like, hey,

522
00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:52.279
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna you know, we're gonna let you hang around.

523
00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:56.319
<v Speaker 4>You're kind of in alum basically who just gets to

524
00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.279
<v Speaker 4>hang around the program for a little bit because I

525
00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:03.799
<v Speaker 4>think his you fullness has pretty much evaporated on a

526
00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:06.839
<v Speaker 4>real basis. And so I look at Chien coming in

527
00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:09.359
<v Speaker 4>and sort of feel like, hey, this is this is

528
00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:11.440
<v Speaker 4>sort of an Alvin Kamara reboot.

529
00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Right, I mean, we live in a world. I'm live

530
00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:15.119
<v Speaker 1>out in the LA Everything in Hollywood is reboots and sequels.

531
00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:17.720
<v Speaker 4>This is sort of a reboot of the Kamara years

532
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:20.759
<v Speaker 4>there in New Orleans. One of the things that I

533
00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:25.319
<v Speaker 4>was always frustrated about in Jacksonville was that they never

534
00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:27.079
<v Speaker 4>threw him the ball as much as I thought.

535
00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:27.440
<v Speaker 1>They should have.

536
00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:31.519
<v Speaker 4>Right we saw we saw Trevor Lawrence and Itchen at

537
00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:33.559
<v Speaker 4>Clemson together, and he was a big part of the

538
00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:36.400
<v Speaker 4>passing game in Clemson when they were winning national championships,

539
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:39.920
<v Speaker 4>and it never really translated to the NFL. I'm hoping

540
00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:42.839
<v Speaker 4>that it's a bigger part of his game there in

541
00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:45.599
<v Speaker 4>New Orleans. We've seen him be an effective runner. Now

542
00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:49.039
<v Speaker 4>if he can add that that pass catching element to it. Look,

543
00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:53.559
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, if you can catch seventy passes in

544
00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:55.759
<v Speaker 4>a season, that'd be huge. I would love something like

545
00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:58.279
<v Speaker 4>that for him in New Orleans. So I am I'm

546
00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:02.039
<v Speaker 4>excited about it. I'm you know, Kamara is there, but

547
00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:05.279
<v Speaker 4>I do think this is very much it's him's backfield,

548
00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:08.000
<v Speaker 4>and I think we're gonna see uh Kamara just sort

549
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:09.400
<v Speaker 4>of you know, I don't know if there's a I

550
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:10.839
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't call it a victory lap.

551
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Uh, just sort of one last tour one, you know,

552
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:16.440
<v Speaker 1>like he's like a you know, an old.

553
00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:18.400
<v Speaker 4>It's like a heist movie, right, just one last job

554
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:20.960
<v Speaker 4>before he goes off into retirement sort of thing.

555
00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:22.519
<v Speaker 1>But I think that's the most we can expect from

556
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:23.200
<v Speaker 1>one more.

557
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:25.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's it, just one last, one last you know,

558
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:28.480
<v Speaker 4>we can get out three days from retirement, man, and

559
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:30.559
<v Speaker 4>trying to get my island there, you know, get my

560
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.359
<v Speaker 4>house on an island somewhere in the Caribbean before I go.

561
00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting too old for this ship exactly. So well,

562
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:41.759
<v Speaker 2>he's RB seventeen. Now. That feels pretty good to me.

563
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:45.240
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm surprised because I'd flipped Breeze Hall on

564
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:49.559
<v Speaker 2>chand there because I'd much rather have the New Orleans back.

565
00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about you, I would too.

566
00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:55.039
<v Speaker 4>No, I feel like there's a clearer sense of purpose

567
00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:58.079
<v Speaker 4>with the Saints' offense and there is with the Jets.

568
00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:00.039
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, if I can, you know, look at you

569
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:02.079
<v Speaker 4>want to take, if you want to say haul and

570
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.880
<v Speaker 4>let the eighth chan fall to me a couple spots later,

571
00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:05.960
<v Speaker 4>I will say thank you.

572
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. RB seventeen feels pretty good. And something I've been

573
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:12.200
<v Speaker 2>ranting on all summer long, already, all through all three weeks.

574
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:14.640
<v Speaker 2>But I've been talking about all summer already. It's just

575
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:16.640
<v Speaker 2>that a lot of times we tend to get lost

576
00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:18.680
<v Speaker 2>in the weeds with some of these guys. We just

577
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:20.400
<v Speaker 2>sort of pick them apart, we pick them to death,

578
00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:22.599
<v Speaker 2>and then we get to August and I'm like, I

579
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:25.039
<v Speaker 2>don't really like the Saints because there's this and this

580
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:27.119
<v Speaker 2>and this, and I think we just need to take

581
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:29.640
<v Speaker 2>the talented guy that they wanted to sign that they

582
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:32.039
<v Speaker 2>were after and just let the chips fall where they may.

583
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:35.079
<v Speaker 2>If he catches some passes, great, If he doesn't, hey, whatever,

584
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:38.079
<v Speaker 2>we took the shot. There is that chance that they

585
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:40.640
<v Speaker 2>want to give him sixty catches or whatever. And if

586
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:44.279
<v Speaker 2>and if he does sixty seventy catches, man, you've you've

587
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:50.200
<v Speaker 2>absolutely signed yourself up for an RB one at mid

588
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:52.920
<v Speaker 2>to low RB two price, which I absolutely love so.

589
00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Underson love it.

590
00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:56.920
<v Speaker 4>By the way, you talk about getting guys getting picked

591
00:27:56.920 --> 00:27:59.279
<v Speaker 4>apart in teams getting picked apart. You know this every

592
00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:03.480
<v Speaker 4>day on Fantasy Twitter, fantasy social media. It just seems

593
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:06.640
<v Speaker 4>like every player, every Fantasy villaint player, just becomes the

594
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:10.519
<v Speaker 4>main story for a day. Yeah, for no real apparent reason.

595
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:13.119
<v Speaker 4>And I would tell you that it's really confusing when

596
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:15.039
<v Speaker 4>you live on the West Coast because you wake up

597
00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:17.720
<v Speaker 4>and the conversation's already been going for several hours, and

598
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:21.000
<v Speaker 4>you're like, wait, why is everybody talking about Travis him today?

599
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:23.759
<v Speaker 4>And so you start like searching for headlines or maybe

600
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:26.000
<v Speaker 4>they did I miss a news story or something, And

601
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:28.240
<v Speaker 4>after like an hour, so you're like, no, people just

602
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:30.279
<v Speaker 4>decided just going to wake up and just talk about

603
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 4>him today.

604
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:33.119
<v Speaker 2>It is a weird phenomenon, and it's got to be

605
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:37.240
<v Speaker 2>that algorithm that keeps feeding us the same topics. And

606
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:40.200
<v Speaker 2>it's also, like you said, it's very random too. And

607
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:46.119
<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's like there's narratives that get this runaway momentum

608
00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:49.400
<v Speaker 2>before we can even have the conversation, and all of

609
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:52.039
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, it's it's it's gotten out of control, and

610
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:54.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, well, where how did we get here? So

611
00:28:55.200 --> 00:29:00.240
<v Speaker 2>definitely definitely with you on that. So okay, well, enough

612
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:03.680
<v Speaker 2>of bottom feeding offenses. Let's talk about a couple of

613
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 2>other things. I want to ask you about what your

614
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:11.480
<v Speaker 2>opinion is on Gwinshawn Jenkins, and Cam Scatamo coming off

615
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:16.240
<v Speaker 2>of fairly traumatic leg injuries. And this is something that

616
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:18.799
<v Speaker 2>we have to fight every year. And I was just

617
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:21.839
<v Speaker 2>having this conversation about Malik Neighbors recently, and he's not

618
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:23.839
<v Speaker 2>one I want to talk about because it's a different

619
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of injury. But we saw with Chris Godwin last year,

620
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.880
<v Speaker 2>we saw it with Tony Pollard a couple of years ago.

621
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:36.440
<v Speaker 2>These traumatic leg injuries, even though they're not ligament related

622
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:40.279
<v Speaker 2>knee injuries, they tend to have an effect on their

623
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:44.480
<v Speaker 2>explosiveness and ability The next year but we're already seeing

624
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:49.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, Judkins looks quick and spry and in wearing

625
00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:53.519
<v Speaker 2>his shorts, and we've heard that these guys, hey, they

626
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:57.119
<v Speaker 2>look great, they're coming along great, but we can't quantify

627
00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:00.960
<v Speaker 2>what it is they've lost that year after after these

628
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:04.200
<v Speaker 2>traumatic injuries. So how are you treating these two guys?

629
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:07.839
<v Speaker 2>Are you comfortable with drafting them or are you kind

630
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:09.799
<v Speaker 2>of like, yeah, they're going to have to fall significantly

631
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:11.240
<v Speaker 2>for me to take them. How do you feel about

632
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:11.720
<v Speaker 2>both of those?

633
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I think they're gonna have to fall

634
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>for me to take them.

635
00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:18.319
<v Speaker 4>If I'm picking between the two, I think I would

636
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:21.319
<v Speaker 4>probably lean toward Judkins over Scataboo.

637
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>And I look, I love Camp Scataboo at Arizona State.

638
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:24.759
<v Speaker 1>He was a lot of fun to know.

639
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:27.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised to hear that you yeah, I did.

640
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:29.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was just so much fun to watch.

641
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.799
<v Speaker 4>The problem is like, as fun as he is to watch,

642
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:36.359
<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't want the Kamakazi running back on

643
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:39.160
<v Speaker 4>my fantasy team just because you just don't know. I

644
00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:41.519
<v Speaker 4>feel like Judkins, Yeah, he had the he had an awful,

645
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:46.039
<v Speaker 4>awful injury. He seems like he's more willing to protect

646
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:49.599
<v Speaker 4>himself in the context of the offense. I think the

647
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:53.119
<v Speaker 4>other part that applies to both these guys is how

648
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:56.759
<v Speaker 4>good are their respective offense is going to be also? Really,

649
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:02.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean the Browns, the Browns have done a lot

650
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 4>of things to make me excited about their offense.

651
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:05.599
<v Speaker 1>They've added a lot.

652
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:08.359
<v Speaker 4>Of pieces, they get some some wide receivers. They still

653
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:10.599
<v Speaker 4>got to figure out the quarterback situation, but they have

654
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:13.319
<v Speaker 4>so many pieces around them offensively that that's reason to

655
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.640
<v Speaker 4>be excited. But I also, you know, in the back

656
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:18.039
<v Speaker 4>of my mind, I'm like, are they going to brown

657
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.599
<v Speaker 4>this up sort of thing? Because who knows? But but

658
00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:24.440
<v Speaker 4>Judkins gets me a little bit more excited because I think,

659
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:26.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, even in the context of that offense, I

660
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 4>think he's going to be better suited to kind of

661
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:30.799
<v Speaker 4>protect himself trying to stay on the field. I don't

662
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.880
<v Speaker 4>think Cam Scataboo has learned to not run through walls.

663
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:38.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, Like, maybe this is me stereotyping. You know,

664
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.559
<v Speaker 4>the dude was caught on video licking windows like that

665
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.519
<v Speaker 4>doesn't get me excited about his prospects of staying healthy

666
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:46.920
<v Speaker 4>over the course of an eighteen game season.

667
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>So For me, I do want to see both of them.

668
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:51.319
<v Speaker 4>I think I need their ADPs to come down a

669
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:55.359
<v Speaker 4>little bit, just because that that concern about the explosiveness,

670
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:57.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, about their ability, and I think a lot

671
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:00.160
<v Speaker 4>of it is confidence too, Like athletes who come who

672
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:02.000
<v Speaker 4>come through a major injury will tell you that a

673
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:04.519
<v Speaker 4>lot of the recovery is mental. It's you know, can

674
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:06.720
<v Speaker 4>you trust your body to do the things that it

675
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:08.799
<v Speaker 4>used to do. So for that reason, I don't know

676
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:10.599
<v Speaker 4>that I'm going to be heavily invested in either one

677
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:11.960
<v Speaker 4>of those guys.

678
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:14.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, I just got my fantasy team name for my

679
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:19.279
<v Speaker 2>home league, the window Lickers, So we're going to be

680
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:23.000
<v Speaker 2>the Scataboo window Lickers. And well, you know, I'm a

681
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:28.119
<v Speaker 2>little surprised to see their ADPs right now because Judkins

682
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:32.160
<v Speaker 2>is at nineteen and Scataboo's at twenty, twenty one or

683
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:36.839
<v Speaker 2>twenty two. That feels no, I'm sorry, Scataboo's at nineteen,

684
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Judkins is at twenty two. That feels like you said,

685
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.359
<v Speaker 2>that feels flipped to me, but also it feels rich. Again.

686
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:47.359
<v Speaker 2>I just I much rather have Breese Hall hn like.

687
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 2>And I know that those guys are going a little

688
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.400
<v Speaker 2>bit ahead. But that feels rich to me. Done it

689
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:51.640
<v Speaker 2>to you?

690
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, it definitely is. That feels very outen.

691
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.119
<v Speaker 4>That feels almost like drafting some of those guys pretty

692
00:32:58.119 --> 00:32:59.359
<v Speaker 4>close to their ceilings.

693
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I don't do that.

694
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Not a guy that's going to catch a bunch of passes, right,

695
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.599
<v Speaker 2>That's not something we've seen from them now.

696
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>And again, I mean both of these offenses. Like, I'm

697
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>hopeful about what the Browns are doing.

698
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:16.240
<v Speaker 4>I think there's sort of reason to be optimistic, but

699
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:19.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, I still think there's a cap on how

700
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.480
<v Speaker 4>many touchdowns these teams are going to score, which automatically

701
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.119
<v Speaker 4>puts a cap on how many touchdowns the running backs

702
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:26.640
<v Speaker 4>could score. I also do think there's the Browns factor

703
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:28.440
<v Speaker 4>of Hey, I don't know if you heard, but they

704
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.440
<v Speaker 4>traded away their actual superhero in Miles Garrett. I mean, look,

705
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:33.960
<v Speaker 4>they get Jared verseback, who's a good player, he's not

706
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:36.640
<v Speaker 4>Miles Garrett, and that's going to have an impact on

707
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:37.279
<v Speaker 4>that defense.

708
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting. I'll tell you what. As far as

709
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:44.559
<v Speaker 2>bad offenses go, I really think the Giants have a

710
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:46.640
<v Speaker 2>chance to bot him out. This year could be really bad.

711
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but yeah, those ADPs just don't make

712
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:51.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of sense to me. So I'm glad we

713
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.000
<v Speaker 2>talked about that for a minute. Well, we're going to

714
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:58.519
<v Speaker 2>end here with a couple fun topics that are not

715
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:04.119
<v Speaker 2>Calvin really related. We're gonna I want to talk about.

716
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:06.240
<v Speaker 2>First of all, let's have a little fun at the

717
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:09.440
<v Speaker 2>top of the draft. Let's say you draw the number

718
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:13.760
<v Speaker 2>one pick and we're talking full PPR even though fight

719
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the Power Radicalized against. What do you think about we've

720
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:23.960
<v Speaker 2>we've really got three candidates, right, Bijon Robinson, Jamier Gibbs

721
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:27.599
<v Speaker 2>and Jamar Chase. What do you think about the very

722
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:29.360
<v Speaker 2>top of the draft and how do you rank those

723
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:30.320
<v Speaker 2>guys and why.

724
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:33.760
<v Speaker 4>For me, it's either it's either Robinson or Gibbs at

725
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:39.079
<v Speaker 4>number one. I'm leaning toward Robinson just because so I

726
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:43.039
<v Speaker 4>think when you look at kind of the two offenses there,

727
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.760
<v Speaker 4>those two guys, they're very similar obviously in what they do,

728
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:49.719
<v Speaker 4>They're very similar in what their ceilings are. But what

729
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:54.000
<v Speaker 4>tipped it to me was the Falcons going out and

730
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:57.079
<v Speaker 4>getting to a tongue of iolola. So now you've got Tua,

731
00:34:57.400 --> 00:34:59.039
<v Speaker 4>you got Michael Pinnix that are going to be in

732
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:02.440
<v Speaker 4>some weird quarterback competition because I don't know, the Falcons

733
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:04.360
<v Speaker 4>just like vomiting on their shoes or something.

734
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:08.199
<v Speaker 1>For some reason, I don't get it. But what it means.

735
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:11.039
<v Speaker 4>Is that Robinson, who's already a big time pass catcher

736
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:14.800
<v Speaker 4>in that offense, could get even more targets when you

737
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:16.719
<v Speaker 4>have to us, say at the beginning of the season,

738
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:20.199
<v Speaker 4>getting under pressure and just with you know, panic, dump

739
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:23.079
<v Speaker 4>offs to Jon Robinson on top of all the carries

740
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:24.920
<v Speaker 4>he's going to get in just the natural targets he

741
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:27.119
<v Speaker 4>gets within the context of the offense, so that.

742
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Gives him a slide edge.

743
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:30.039
<v Speaker 4>I do feel like there's sort of no wrong answer

744
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 4>between Bijon and Jamier Gibbs. I'm going Jon Robinson. I've

745
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.000
<v Speaker 4>got chase at three. I think the range of outcomes

746
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:40.119
<v Speaker 4>for him is fairly narrow. But I do still think

747
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:43.639
<v Speaker 4>there's the the Joe Burrow issue in the sense that

748
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:48.760
<v Speaker 4>the Bengals still struggle to protect him consistently, and there's

749
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:51.559
<v Speaker 4>always there's always the chance that Burrow somewhere along the way.

750
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:55.280
<v Speaker 4>This is three to five games, and yes, Jamier Gibbs

751
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:57.840
<v Speaker 4>can still prosper with a backup quarterback, but the ceiling

752
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.440
<v Speaker 4>gets a little bit lower. So I just think that

753
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:02.920
<v Speaker 4>that issue comes into play a little bit with Chase,

754
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:04.519
<v Speaker 4>which makes him more of number three for me.

755
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:07.559
<v Speaker 2>I was talking to my son earlier because we're doing

756
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:09.559
<v Speaker 2>a father son in Fantasy League, and I said, you

757
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:11.280
<v Speaker 2>want to do that again? He said, yeah, he had

758
00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Bejon last year, and he says, well, now that Tyler

759
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Algier is gone, I want to have Bijon again. I said,

760
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:21.280
<v Speaker 2>I said, it doesn't mean he's automatically going to get

761
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.400
<v Speaker 2>all the goal line carries, but I tell you what,

762
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:25.760
<v Speaker 2>it did seem like they figured it out a little

763
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:27.239
<v Speaker 2>bit at the end of the year, not totally, but

764
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:29.960
<v Speaker 2>they gave some Bejon some goal line carries. And I

765
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:33.719
<v Speaker 2>specifically remember, I believe it was a carry against Carolina

766
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:35.880
<v Speaker 2>where the guy broke into the backfield and he was

767
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:38.800
<v Speaker 2>like on the two yard line, jumped on Bijon's back

768
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:40.400
<v Speaker 2>and he kind of just like shrugged him off and

769
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:42.719
<v Speaker 2>walked in the end zone. And I thought, now, that

770
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:45.719
<v Speaker 2>is a guy who knows how to put the ball

771
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.360
<v Speaker 2>on the end zone. But they just loved Tyler Algier.

772
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:50.599
<v Speaker 2>So I'm interested to see what they do with that

773
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:53.039
<v Speaker 2>this year, because that certainly would make me want Bejon

774
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:56.079
<v Speaker 2>over Gibbs. I think for me right now it's probably Gibbs,

775
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>then Bejon. But I also agree that Chase is number three,

776
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.800
<v Speaker 2>and it is that uncertainty of Joe Burrow and that

777
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:06.199
<v Speaker 2>offense and what happens if he goes down. So you know,

778
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:08.320
<v Speaker 2>we can't live scared all the time, but I'm certainly

779
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:11.039
<v Speaker 2>going to break the tie there by putting him third

780
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:14.119
<v Speaker 2>behind those running backs. All right, well, I want to

781
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:17.480
<v Speaker 2>leave everyone with the favorite topic that everyone has this

782
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:20.800
<v Speaker 2>time of the year, which is we've got these narratives developing,

783
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:23.400
<v Speaker 2>and we've got ADP shaping up, and a lot of

784
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:26.360
<v Speaker 2>that stuff's going to change come early August when the

785
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:28.719
<v Speaker 2>casuals start to get in and decide who they like.

786
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:30.800
<v Speaker 2>And they don't really care that we've been talking about

787
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:35.000
<v Speaker 2>it since March. So but for right now, what do

788
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:37.599
<v Speaker 2>you think, Why don't we start out with a couple

789
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.000
<v Speaker 2>guys that you feel like are overvalued right now? How

790
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:42.079
<v Speaker 2>about two guys that you think that you just can't

791
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:45.239
<v Speaker 2>click the button right now because there's too high right now.

792
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:50.480
<v Speaker 4>One is Luther Burden, and from the moment Dj Moore

793
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.719
<v Speaker 4>left to go to Buffalo, the Luther Burden hype train

794
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:56.320
<v Speaker 4>just left it full. It turned into a bullet train

795
00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:59.679
<v Speaker 4>just the way it left the station, and I get it.

796
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:03.679
<v Speaker 4>Dunza was disappointing last year, and we saw a little

797
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:07.039
<v Speaker 4>bit of Burden flash late in the season. But just

798
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:09.000
<v Speaker 4>where he's going right now, I think I saw his

799
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:12.119
<v Speaker 4>adp at like forty two overall. So you're telling me

800
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:15.119
<v Speaker 4>I got to spend in twelve team leagues a mid

801
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:18.800
<v Speaker 4>fourth round pick on Luther Burden, Like, I'm not anywhere

802
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:21.760
<v Speaker 4>close to that right now, and he's going ahead of o'doonsay,

803
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:24.599
<v Speaker 4>who I think bounces back this year. I think you

804
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:26.719
<v Speaker 4>just I think you see the connection between him and

805
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:29.639
<v Speaker 4>Caleb Williams. I think you're gonna see o'doonsay bounce back.

806
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:33.360
<v Speaker 4>I also am a big fan of Colston Loveland. He

807
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:36.199
<v Speaker 4>is my solid tight end three. Like, I'm not willing

808
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:41.000
<v Speaker 4>to go early enough to get Bowers or you know,

809
00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:42.239
<v Speaker 4>we're who else am.

810
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:47.199
<v Speaker 1>I missing at the Titan spot. I'm blanking out McBride.

811
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:49.880
<v Speaker 4>The just I just had a brain fart there, But

812
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:50.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm not I'm not willing to.

813
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Go early enough to get either one of those guys.

814
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:54.480
<v Speaker 4>So I'll wait and I'll say Colston Loveland at tight

815
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:56.679
<v Speaker 4>end three and'd be perfectly happy with it. He's going

816
00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:59.280
<v Speaker 4>right about the same spot as Luther Burden. I think

817
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:02.440
<v Speaker 4>you talk opportune costs, it's just a better situation there.

818
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:05.360
<v Speaker 4>So I am sort of out on Luther Burden until

819
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:06.480
<v Speaker 4>that's the Luther.

820
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:08.639
<v Speaker 1>That's a Luther Burden alarm. That's the hey man, it

821
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:13.360
<v Speaker 1>is Luther Burden, That's what that is.

822
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:17.280
<v Speaker 4>The other guy that I think is overvalued is Jeremiah

823
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:22.599
<v Speaker 4>Love And it's not about his talent, it's about situation.

824
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:26.440
<v Speaker 4>And I feel like, did we already forget the lessons

825
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:30.000
<v Speaker 4>of Ashton Genty from a couple of years ago? That

826
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:33.320
<v Speaker 4>Genty is a guy who was super talented and put

827
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:36.079
<v Speaker 4>up monster numbers at Boise State, and then he gets

828
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:38.039
<v Speaker 4>drafted by the Raiders. And I remember when he got

829
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:40.159
<v Speaker 4>drafted and people immediately were like, well, he's gonna be

830
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:42.159
<v Speaker 4>a late first round pick, maybe even a mid first

831
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:42.599
<v Speaker 4>round pick.

832
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:44.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, are you are you nuts? Like the Raiders

833
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:46.079
<v Speaker 1>are still bad.

834
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:49.719
<v Speaker 4>And when you look at Gent's rookie year, like in

835
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 4>the grand scheme of things, it was not a bad

836
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.760
<v Speaker 4>rookie year, but for where he was coming off the board,

837
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:57.199
<v Speaker 4>you were left disappointed by what you got out of

838
00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:59.400
<v Speaker 4>Ashton gent and I think you're gonna have the same

839
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:01.119
<v Speaker 4>thing with Jeremiah Love.

840
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:03.239
<v Speaker 1>The Cardinals are still a bad team.

841
00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:06.400
<v Speaker 4>Like the NFC West is going to be a three

842
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.519
<v Speaker 4>team race, right I mean, the Rams right now are

843
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:11.159
<v Speaker 4>the favorite for the Super Bowl, the Seahawks are you're

844
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:13.880
<v Speaker 4>defending super Bowl champs. The forty nine ers are still

845
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:15.679
<v Speaker 4>going to be very good and you know very well

846
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:16.960
<v Speaker 4>could be a playoff team.

847
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:18.400
<v Speaker 1>And then you got the Cardinals.

848
00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:20.920
<v Speaker 4>It's that dragon meme with the multiple heads, where like,

849
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:22.639
<v Speaker 4>you know, a couple of them are looking mean and

850
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:24.360
<v Speaker 4>then the third one is looking kind of goofy.

851
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's that's the Cardinals. They're the fourth goofy head over.

852
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.920
<v Speaker 4>There also the fact that you know your son talked

853
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:32.960
<v Speaker 4>about Tyler Aljier not being in Atlanta.

854
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:34.159
<v Speaker 1>He's in Arizona.

855
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:36.880
<v Speaker 4>Now they got to add him, so he's going to

856
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:38.159
<v Speaker 4>get some of those opportunities.

857
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:39.760
<v Speaker 1>And there's James Connor.

858
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:42.400
<v Speaker 4>Like I've I've been a James Connor fan for a while,

859
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:44.719
<v Speaker 4>I am willing to admit that at this point, after

860
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:48.639
<v Speaker 4>multiple injuries and just getting older at his place in

861
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:50.880
<v Speaker 4>the offense, is going to be diminished over what it was.

862
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.239
<v Speaker 4>But I don't think they completely kicked him to the curb.

863
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:55.880
<v Speaker 4>I still think he's going to get opportunities. So now

864
00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:58.440
<v Speaker 4>you're looking at a three headed situation and an offense

865
00:40:58.440 --> 00:40:59.400
<v Speaker 4>that's going to be bad.

866
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:00.599
<v Speaker 1>Part of the reason we love.

867
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.719
<v Speaker 4>Jacobe Brissett is because they're always playing from behind and

868
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:05.039
<v Speaker 4>they had to throw the ball a ton. So I

869
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:08.119
<v Speaker 4>just think with the excitement around Jeremiah Love, if this

870
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:10.320
<v Speaker 4>were in Dynasty, I get it one hundred percent.

871
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I get it.

872
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:14.719
<v Speaker 4>In redraft leagues, I think I'm gonna pass because I

873
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:16.519
<v Speaker 4>think the price is gonna be way too rich for him.

874
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:19.800
<v Speaker 2>We also have an offensive line problem in Arizona still

875
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:23.079
<v Speaker 2>as well, because again according to football guys, he's got

876
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:26.320
<v Speaker 2>the twenty seventh ranked offensive line in front of him,

877
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:30.119
<v Speaker 2>and as you said, the aforementioned Tyler Algier, that looks

878
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:33.719
<v Speaker 2>like a weird thing to figure out. In general, those

879
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:37.280
<v Speaker 2>three guys, it's it's it's odd that they did that

880
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 2>after signing Algier. I bet you Algier is not happy

881
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:42.360
<v Speaker 2>about that. I would love for it to clear up

882
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.440
<v Speaker 2>to a two man committee by I don't know, cutting

883
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Connor or trading Algier or something. But it looks like

884
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:52.440
<v Speaker 2>they're sticking with the three. That's weird, and it's difficult

885
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.119
<v Speaker 2>because it's still gonna cost you a mid second round

886
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 2>pick to get love. I'm with you, I'm out middle

887
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.840
<v Speaker 2>of second round on Jeremiah the Luther Burden thing. I

888
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 2>love the call. I was a little bit surprised when

889
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I did this auction the other night that he only

890
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:08.400
<v Speaker 2>went for twenty four bucks. I expected him to go

891
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:10.840
<v Speaker 2>for more. But then there's a lot of guys who

892
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:14.039
<v Speaker 2>are veterans who really know how to produce in the

893
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:16.360
<v Speaker 2>NFL that are going for the same price. So that

894
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:20.280
<v Speaker 2>would say that Burden is overrated at that price. And

895
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:25.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what's weird with with the Burden Odunze thing

896
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:28.480
<v Speaker 2>is I mentioned this the other day. I really think

897
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:32.400
<v Speaker 2>that if o'dunze had had a healthy season, we'd be

898
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:36.119
<v Speaker 2>having a different conversation right now. So I'm with you

899
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:38.320
<v Speaker 2>that I'd rather take the chance at wide receiver twenty

900
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:40.679
<v Speaker 2>eight on o'dunze than I would on Burden, who's going

901
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:43.159
<v Speaker 2>ahead of him. So like those two calls, let's end

902
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:46.719
<v Speaker 2>with some optimism and hey, we're doing great here. We're

903
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:48.960
<v Speaker 2>at forty two minutes. So this is going to work

904
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:52.000
<v Speaker 2>out great. How about two guys that you think are

905
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:55.360
<v Speaker 2>undervalued right now that you're going to be chasing the drafts.

906
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:59.440
<v Speaker 4>A couple of rookies. Actually one is Jenarian Price in Seattle.

907
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:04.960
<v Speaker 4>It says something that the Seahawks felt good enough that

908
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:08.119
<v Speaker 4>they were willing to let super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker

909
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:09.840
<v Speaker 4>the Third, which, by the way, that's his full given name.

910
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:12.800
<v Speaker 4>Now he's super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker the Third. Uh,

911
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:16.159
<v Speaker 4>they let him go that, Yeah, that's it. He's officially

912
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:20.119
<v Speaker 4>changed his birth certificate to say that. But the Seahawks

913
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:23.440
<v Speaker 4>are willing to let him walk because they felt like

914
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:24.880
<v Speaker 4>they could replace his production.

915
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>They go and they draft Jederion Price.

916
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:31.079
<v Speaker 4>Keep in mind, Zach Charbonay suffered a really nasty injury

917
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:34.199
<v Speaker 4>very late in the season, So I don't know that

918
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.199
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna see Zach Charboney ready to go early in

919
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:40.960
<v Speaker 4>the year. Seahawks aren't going to just not run the football,

920
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:43.280
<v Speaker 4>So I think you're gonna see Jenerarian Price get a

921
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:47.320
<v Speaker 4>large amount of opportunity. I'm not terrified that George Holani

922
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:49.800
<v Speaker 4>is going to somehow step in there and take all

923
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:52.440
<v Speaker 4>these touches away from him. Uh So, I think I

924
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:55.599
<v Speaker 4>think Price has a real opportunity early in the season to.

925
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Sort of establish himself.

926
00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:59.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he'll end up having to share touches whenever it

927
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:01.360
<v Speaker 4>is sharbon Ay come back, but by then he could

928
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:04.679
<v Speaker 4>really have done a lot to solidify himself in that position.

929
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:06.840
<v Speaker 4>So I'm willing to take the shot on Jendarian Price

930
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:09.960
<v Speaker 4>the other one. And you know, I can't come on

931
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:11.360
<v Speaker 4>this show and not at least be a little bit

932
00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:14.840
<v Speaker 4>of a usc homer at some point. It's mckaye Lemon,

933
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.719
<v Speaker 4>And I was excited about mckaye Lemon anyway.

934
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:20.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think we all knew aj Brown was

935
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 1>getting traded.

936
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:24.000
<v Speaker 4>That was sort of like when they finally announced it,

937
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:26.599
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't surprised. It was kind of a general like finally,

938
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:28.639
<v Speaker 4>like we all kind of knew it was going to happen.

939
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.719
<v Speaker 4>So that opens up an opportunity for Makaye Lemon in

940
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:35.519
<v Speaker 4>that offense. I know everybody's excited about Carnell Tate, They're

941
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:39.239
<v Speaker 4>excited about Jordan Tyson, on and on and on. The

942
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:42.159
<v Speaker 4>flag plant that I'm going with right now is that

943
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:45.079
<v Speaker 4>Makaye Lemon will be the number one rookie wide receiver

944
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:48.480
<v Speaker 4>in fantasy football. Because he's in a good offense. There's

945
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:51.119
<v Speaker 4>plenty of opportunity. He's a talented player. If they can

946
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:53.639
<v Speaker 4>get him in space, he's really great after the catch.

947
00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:54.599
<v Speaker 1>You know.

948
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:56.800
<v Speaker 4>I think DeVonta Smith gets a bump from aj Brown

949
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:00.760
<v Speaker 4>not being there as well, but really excited about in

950
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:03.400
<v Speaker 4>this offense and especially where he's going, you don't have

951
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:06.039
<v Speaker 4>to risk a lot of draft capital to get him.

952
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:08.880
<v Speaker 4>I can't imagine he's going for that much in auctions

953
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:12.559
<v Speaker 4>at this point, but I think I think their reward

954
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:16.599
<v Speaker 4>far outweighs the risk for adding women this year.

955
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I just got done talking about Jenerian Price on

956
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:23.760
<v Speaker 2>last week's show. So this is awesome because he's going

957
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:27.800
<v Speaker 2>with some guys that are really just uninspiring veterans. And

958
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying those veterans don't have their place on

959
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:33.199
<v Speaker 2>your fantasy teams, because some of them, like Tony Pollar,

960
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:36.280
<v Speaker 2>DeAndre Swift, they're gonna get touches and they play a role,

961
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.159
<v Speaker 2>especially in deeper leagues where you need guys that are

962
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:43.400
<v Speaker 2>going to have a consistent amount of twelve to fifteen touches.

963
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:47.360
<v Speaker 2>But I think Price is just a perfect X factor

964
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that stands out among all of those guys right there,

965
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:52.679
<v Speaker 2>because he could really take the rings and just go nuts.

966
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Emmanuel Wilson is a guy who originally I thought, oh, well,

967
00:45:56.320 --> 00:45:58.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe they're bringing him in to carry the ball a lot,

968
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:01.760
<v Speaker 2>but he's just very uninteresting to me. He's not explosive,

969
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:04.840
<v Speaker 2>he's not proven to be this amazing NFL back. So

970
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:08.639
<v Speaker 2>I think that things behind Price could be a little

971
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:13.320
<v Speaker 2>bit weird and we could spend some time talking about

972
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Emmanuel Wilson when really the guy that they want to

973
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:18.280
<v Speaker 2>touch the ball in so'lani. But I love the price

974
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:20.440
<v Speaker 2>call because I just got done saying this is a

975
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:22.760
<v Speaker 2>guy we should be taking a chance on. So and hey,

976
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:26.960
<v Speaker 2>look death taxes and a USC wide receiver. That is

977
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:29.719
<v Speaker 2>how we roll here on the auction Brief with Marcus Grant.

978
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:32.760
<v Speaker 2>This has been a really fun conversation. Man. We brought

979
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:35.000
<v Speaker 2>it in right when we needed to. So thank you

980
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:36.440
<v Speaker 2>so much for being here. I know you got a

981
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 2>heart out here in a few minutes. But just remind

982
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:41.039
<v Speaker 2>everybody where they can find you and find your work.

983
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:44.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you find me. I am still on X occasionally

984
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:46.960
<v Speaker 4>at Marcus g over there. I'm also on Blue Sky.

985
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:51.760
<v Speaker 4>I think of Marcus g there also, So that's most

986
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:53.320
<v Speaker 4>of where you can find me. If you want to

987
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:55.440
<v Speaker 4>hear me talk about things that aren't fantasy football, you

988
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:58.039
<v Speaker 4>can go to ESPN Los Angeles's YouTube page.

989
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I do what's called the Blue Review every morning.

990
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:03.719
<v Speaker 4>During baseball season, we talked Dodger baseball, but also at

991
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:07.119
<v Speaker 4>ESPN Los Angeles in general. I do some filling work there,

992
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.519
<v Speaker 4>just doing radio stuff. And then once we sort of

993
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:13.000
<v Speaker 4>get going again, I'll be back with Michael left Florio.

994
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:14.639
<v Speaker 1>We'll be doing NFL Fantasy Live.

995
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:19.679
<v Speaker 4>Now we're all we're officially ESPN employees, and now that

996
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:21.679
<v Speaker 4>they've taken it over, so I know we're going long.

997
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:23.159
<v Speaker 1>This is I will take the blame for this.

998
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Twe no, no, no, we're good. We're good.

999
00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:30.519
<v Speaker 4>Fun fact, because we're ESPN slash Disney employees. You're not

1000
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:33.519
<v Speaker 4>an employee of the Walt Disney Company, you are a

1001
00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:37.840
<v Speaker 4>cast member. So we were officially Disney cast members. Is

1002
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:39.639
<v Speaker 4>that the term they use to describe us.

1003
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:42.519
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, there's there's a there's a joke there somewhere.

1004
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.400
<v Speaker 2>I haven't figured it out yet, but I will before July,

1005
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:48.760
<v Speaker 2>because I'm gonna I'm gonna have to use that for

1006
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 2>you in Florio, but okay, well that's cool, man. You

1007
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 2>know when do do you know when you're gonna go on?

1008
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Like when the show starts.

1009
00:47:58.559 --> 00:47:59.599
<v Speaker 1>I would guess August.

1010
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.280
<v Speaker 4>They haven't I told us just yet, but usually we

1011
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:05.719
<v Speaker 4>get going, usually in August, right around the end of

1012
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:07.559
<v Speaker 4>the preseason. It's kind of when we start to come back,

1013
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:10.079
<v Speaker 4>because that's when, you know, for for most normies, not

1014
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:13.719
<v Speaker 4>as nerds who do this, when most regular thinking people

1015
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:15.920
<v Speaker 4>start doing their drafts as usually right at the end

1016
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:18.639
<v Speaker 4>of the preseasons, that's usually when we start to jump

1017
00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:19.320
<v Speaker 4>back in again.

1018
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:24.119
<v Speaker 2>All right, well this is a perfect man. I've had

1019
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:27.400
<v Speaker 2>a really fun conversation with this afternoon, and so thank

1020
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:29.119
<v Speaker 2>you so much for joining me. I appreciate you making

1021
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:30.280
<v Speaker 2>the time for the show once again.

1022
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:32.280
<v Speaker 4>Always good time to talk to you, Drew, and I

1023
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:33.960
<v Speaker 4>look forward to seeing you in July and Canton.

1024
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Can't wait for campon, Buddy, It's gonna be awesome. Thank

1025
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:40.400
<v Speaker 2>you so much. To Marcus Grant from the NFL Network

1026
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:44.320
<v Speaker 2>cast member with Disney, Marcus, you knocked it out of

1027
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 2>the park once again. Thanks for being here. It's another

1028
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:57.960
<v Speaker 2>week of discussions with Drew. All Right, that's gonna wrap

1029
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:01.559
<v Speaker 2>up another week of discussions with as we strive to

1030
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:05.679
<v Speaker 2>talk with the smartest people in the business every single week.

1031
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.199
<v Speaker 2>Don't forget to tune in Thursday morning for my solo

1032
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:10.280
<v Speaker 2>time and the Auction Brief. Mike, thank you so much

1033
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:12.679
<v Speaker 2>for joining us this week. I'll talk to you real soon.

1034
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.119
<v Speaker 2>The Auction Brief is adjourned.

1035
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:20.159
<v Speaker 3>The Auction Brief is adjourn that'll do it for this

1036
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:23.199
<v Speaker 3>week's episode. See you next time on the Auction Brief.