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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Welcome into the Auction Brief. As the lady said,
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Speaker 2: on another installment of Discussions with Drew.
Speaker 3: Time for Discussions with Drew, in depth conversations with the
Speaker 3: brightest minds in the fantasy industry.
Speaker 2: Welcome into this week's discussions with Drew. Our guest for
Speaker 2: us this week is somebody that you probably already know
Speaker 2: from seeing his beautiful face on television with NFL Media,
Speaker 2: mister Marcus Grant, who also happens to hold the record
Speaker 2: for most appearances on the Auction Brief. As a result,
Speaker 2: he's one of my favorite people on earth, not just
Speaker 2: because he's such a easy guy to get on the
Speaker 2: show and talk to and a great analyst, but he's
Speaker 2: also become a good friend. So welcome to the show, Marcus.
Speaker 2: How you doing, man, I'm good man. It's good to
Speaker 2: talk to you again.
Speaker 4: That this this show, there are a couple things that
Speaker 4: are sort of time markers for me during the off season.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's this.
Speaker 4: It's the Fantasy Football Expo, kind of the Hall of
Speaker 4: Fame games at all rolled into one.
Speaker 1: These let me know.
Speaker 4: That, okay, about where I am in the summer in
Speaker 4: the off season, and about when it starts it's time
Speaker 4: to start getting my mind right for the next season
Speaker 4: to come.
Speaker 2: I love this because this is easily your eighth or
Speaker 2: something appearance on.
Speaker 1: That I feel like I'm the Steve Martin of this
Speaker 1: show right. What it is.
Speaker 2: I'm old enough to get that reference. So yeah, and
Speaker 2: I love having you on because the conversations are always
Speaker 2: really easy. You've got a lot of insight, and like
Speaker 2: I've always said, your television, your your answers are made
Speaker 2: for television, so they're always just wrapped up in a
Speaker 2: neat little bow and I love it. So pressures on man.
Speaker 2: But we can find Marcus on Twitter at M A
Speaker 2: R C A SG that's Marcus G. He's also with
Speaker 2: ESPN Los Angeles doing a show. Is that just totally
Speaker 2: Dodger stuff?
Speaker 4: It all als so I'm doing I'm doing Dodger stuff
Speaker 4: every morning. If you're on the West coast at six
Speaker 4: thirty am, it's more reasonable in the East coast at
Speaker 4: nine thirty am.
Speaker 1: It's a Dodger live stream.
Speaker 4: And then I do some fill in hosting, so you know,
Speaker 4: whenever there's somebody down, vacation, sick, whatever, I'll jump in
Speaker 4: there and host some radio shows too. So that's that
Speaker 4: is a lot more general kind of sports talk at
Speaker 4: that point.
Speaker 2: And then you're also with MB Fantasy Life here with
Speaker 2: Barry's Fantasy Life. Is that right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been doing stuff with them for a while.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Matthew Berry and the guys over there,
Speaker 4: guys and girls over there. You know, they got the
Speaker 4: very talented kindle Venezuela. I think Chris Allen is doing
Speaker 4: some things over there occasionally as well.
Speaker 1: I've been fortunate enough to be there for a few years.
Speaker 4: In fact, I originally kind of got recruited by them
Speaker 4: at a.
Speaker 1: Fantasy football expo several years ago.
Speaker 4: I by chance met Dwayne McFarlane there and met Elliott
Speaker 4: Christ And then a couple of weeks later, Elliott's like, hey,
Speaker 4: have you ever met Dwayne McFarlane.
Speaker 1: I was like, you should ask? Uh.
Speaker 4: We hung out and he's like, hey, I'd like for
Speaker 4: you guys to do a podcast together.
Speaker 1: So that was probably four or five years ago something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 4: And it's been fun to watch this, watch that company
Speaker 4: grow and blossom into something really kind of cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, it's funny because Dwayne, I believe
Speaker 2: that's the only expo he's been to and he hasn't
Speaker 2: been back, right. I think we went a little hard
Speaker 2: night one. I won't tell that story in the public,
Speaker 2: but we went a little hard night one and I
Speaker 2: think we just we ruined the expo for him. No,
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding, but he hasn't been back. We've been
Speaker 2: bugging him to get back. So hopefully, Dwayne, I know
Speaker 2: Dwayn's listening to the show, wink wink. But yeah, hopefully
Speaker 2: we'll see him again out there. But I know I'm
Speaker 2: going to see you and Canton. We were just talking
Speaker 2: about you and Florio. You guys are making it back.
Speaker 4: We are going to make it back. I've got my tickets.
Speaker 4: I got to figure out some of the other accommodations.
Speaker 1: Now. Florio bought his expo ticket.
Speaker 4: He will be there on the contingency that he doesn't
Speaker 4: just explode for euphoria at the New York Knicks parade.
Speaker 1: He went to the Knicks parade.
Speaker 4: It is the first time he's ever seen one of
Speaker 4: his teams win a championship. He sees his favorite of
Speaker 4: all his sports teams, and Knicks are easily his favorite.
Speaker 4: So he got to be there for the parade. So
Speaker 4: hopefully he doesn't just ascend into the clouds. If he
Speaker 4: somehow is still on planet Earth, he will be in camp.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Well, I met him what two years ago
Speaker 2: and just had a blast with both of you guys,
Speaker 2: and I was really I bugged him about a month
Speaker 2: ago and I was like, dude, you better be in campon, like,
Speaker 2: don't tell me you're not coming. So I'm glad to
Speaker 2: hear he's coming because I think it was at Froton
Speaker 2: that didn't come last year, and there was a couple
Speaker 2: of people last year that I'm like, I, you know,
Speaker 2: just like you said, your watch by a couple things.
Speaker 2: Over the summer, I only see a couple people like
Speaker 2: that in Canton, So I'm really hoping to see all
Speaker 2: those folks. But glad you and Floria were going to
Speaker 2: be there. But hey, let's get to the business of
Speaker 2: the day. I could hang out and talk all day long,
Speaker 2: but we're going to do that in July. And I'm
Speaker 2: trying to keep the show a little bit tighter this year.
Speaker 2: Everybody's kind of snickering behind my back because I do
Speaker 2: run my mouth a lot and these shows go long.
Speaker 2: But I did a less aggressive show sheet with you
Speaker 2: today so that we could get to all of it
Speaker 2: and we can kind of hit off. We're going to
Speaker 2: hit super exciting stuff like you know, Titans wide receivers.
Speaker 2: It's going to be scintillating podcast conversation here.
Speaker 1: So all right.
Speaker 2: Well, Hey, I want to start with a thirty thousand
Speaker 2: foot view, because my favorite thing to do in the
Speaker 2: off season is I spend the month of June talking
Speaker 2: about what happened last year and what we can take
Speaker 2: into twenty twenty six that we feel like is going
Speaker 2: to help us as fantasy players going forward. Is there
Speaker 2: something that pops into your head that you learned in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five or had to relearn that you're thinking,
Speaker 2: I'm going to make sure that this is in my
Speaker 2: mind when I'm drafted this year.
Speaker 1: So it's a thing.
Speaker 4: I think it was solidified in twenty twenty five, but
Speaker 4: I think it's a lesson that's been building over the
Speaker 4: last couple of years, and it's that tight ends are
Speaker 4: now worth the swing. It's worth taking a shot at
Speaker 4: some of these guys. I mean, and you know this
Speaker 4: for years, the discourse around rookie tight ends is that, well,
Speaker 4: it takes guys a couple of years at that position
Speaker 4: to become fantasy relevant and to become productive. And I
Speaker 4: think we've seen that sort of fall away, right when
Speaker 4: you look at Sam Laporta having his big rookie year
Speaker 4: and then Rock Bauers coming in having a big rookie year,
Speaker 4: Tyler Warren stepping in and doing big things as a rookie,
Speaker 4: and even Colston Lovelan sort of the back half of
Speaker 4: his rookie year really starting to step up. I think
Speaker 4: because of the way teams are operating in.
Speaker 1: The NFL with a tight end position.
Speaker 4: Now you've sort of specialized it where you've got your
Speaker 4: in line tight ends, your guys who can block and
Speaker 4: be a part of the run game. But now you're
Speaker 4: seeing more teams use sort of that move tight end,
Speaker 4: that more athletic pass catcher, almost like a big slot guy,
Speaker 4: And essentially teams are telling that player, hey, yeah, eventually
Speaker 4: we maybe like you to block occasionally, but right now
Speaker 4: your primary job is to go out there, run routes,
Speaker 4: get open and be a weapon in the passing game.
Speaker 4: I mean, of course, you got Sean McVay, who I
Speaker 4: think at some point is going to like, I don't
Speaker 4: know if like fifteen personnel is a thing, but if so,
Speaker 4: he may try to figure out how to do that
Speaker 4: with They collect tight ends in LA like Pokemon.
Speaker 1: It's sort of insane.
Speaker 4: But I do think when you look around the league
Speaker 4: and you see say a Kenyon Sadiq with the Jets.
Speaker 4: When you see in Eli Stowers in Philadelphia, you know,
Speaker 4: at the right price, I think they are worth adding
Speaker 4: to your rosters, whether it's in redraft, whether it's in
Speaker 4: auction leagues, whatever, because we're seeing some more of these
Speaker 4: guys really be productive right off the bat.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think you're a comment about Sadiq's interesting too,
Speaker 2: because one of the things that I keep seeing is
Speaker 2: these guys they continue to draft tight ends even when
Speaker 2: they've got guys on the roster they like. That's what
Speaker 2: Vegas did with Bowers, and they had may Or on
Speaker 2: the roster already in Sadik and they've got Mason Taylor still.
Speaker 2: So there. There is definitely a movement in the NFL,
Speaker 2: and we've certainly been talking about that on the auction
Speaker 2: brief already. And I love the McVeigh joke. I was
Speaker 2: going to go, I was going to make a joke
Speaker 2: about fourteen personnel. He got there before I can make it,
Speaker 2: But it's true. It's a great point. I think it's
Speaker 2: an excellent highlight because I have been one personally to
Speaker 2: be a little bit slow on the rookie tight end uptake.
Speaker 2: I've just not been willing to invest in some of
Speaker 2: these guys in the rookie season, and it's clear that
Speaker 2: that's a mistake right now and it's something I need
Speaker 2: to correct. So I love the start here for us
Speaker 2: Beyond twenty twenty five, I want to turn to twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six and talk a little bit about what's going
Speaker 2: on right now. We sit here near the end of June.
Speaker 2: We've got our little break going on for about the
Speaker 2: next three to four weeks. Before training camp opens, things
Speaker 2: really ramp up. There's some narratives that are getting going
Speaker 2: on some teams, and I know there's a lot of
Speaker 2: exciting fantasy offenses out there that we want to talk about,
Speaker 2: but we're not going to talk about that. I told
Speaker 2: Marcus before the show started out, said, Hey, these aren't
Speaker 2: the most exciting offenses. But we're also here because all
Speaker 2: this stuff matters, and we have to care about some
Speaker 2: of these teams, and frankly, making profit off some of
Speaker 2: these weaker offenses is something that's important, not just for
Speaker 2: general knowledge when we get into the room, but for
Speaker 2: those deeper leagues. It's really important to find that production
Speaker 2: on these weaker teams. So I want to start with
Speaker 2: some of those teams and we can talk a little
Speaker 2: bit about the Jets right out of the gate, because
Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to talk about the Jets,
Speaker 2: nobody does. But are they going to be a little
Speaker 2: bit better with some more competent quarterback play? And then
Speaker 2: what do we think about Aaron Glenn? And he's talking
Speaker 2: about a three headed monster. And I know that they
Speaker 2: started to use these other two guys last year, but
Speaker 2: I can't imagine they gave Bresaw fourteen million dollars a
Speaker 2: year so that they're just going to give them one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty touches. Bristol is still going to touch
Speaker 2: the ball a lot, right, I mean, what do we
Speaker 2: make of this whole offense in this backfield?
Speaker 4: Yeah, when when they decided that they weren't just gonna
Speaker 4: let Breeze hall walk and they put the franchise tag
Speaker 4: on him and say they're going to keep him around,
Speaker 4: I think we all kind of had a collective sad.
Speaker 4: We're like, oh, you know, it's like, please free Breeze.
Speaker 4: Let him go somewhere and prosper and blossom. I do
Speaker 4: think he's going to get touches. I am walking into
Speaker 4: this season being very cautious about the Jets, like it
Speaker 4: really going to depend on how excited people are about
Speaker 4: these guys. I think there's a collective sort of like
Speaker 4: you know that, Like I think you look around and
Speaker 4: you're like, there's potential there, but Jets. So I think
Speaker 4: I've been kind of hands off so far with Breeze Hall,
Speaker 4: and I think once I really start getting heavily into drafting,
Speaker 4: we'll see how much I go after it. I just
Speaker 4: you know, for me, I don't know that I want
Speaker 4: him as more than a low end RB two, just
Speaker 4: because I don't. I just don't trust the Jets. I
Speaker 4: think it's mostly what it is. I don't trust him
Speaker 4: to do right by some of their talented players. I
Speaker 4: sort of like that we have kind of come to
Speaker 4: our collective senses with Garrett Wilson and sort of realize
Speaker 4: that he is probably again a low end wide receiver too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I remember when we first came in the league, everybody's like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is the next big thing. They were drafting him
Speaker 4: late first round, early second round, and he's he's just
Speaker 4: never been that guy. Of some of it is quarterback twice,
Speaker 4: but they just haven't had guys to get him the ball.
Speaker 4: But I think some of it is just that I
Speaker 4: think we sort of overvalued who he is on the
Speaker 4: NFL level, So you know, I'm very cautious about them.
Speaker 4: I know, I just mentioned Kenyon Sadik. I think the
Speaker 4: value is there just mostly because of the position, right,
Speaker 4: just because there isn't as much depth that tied it in.
Speaker 4: So he's the guy that I'm sort of maybe the
Speaker 4: most excited about.
Speaker 1: It all depends on what version of Geno Smith shows up.
Speaker 4: If it is the you know they wrote me off
Speaker 4: I and right back though. If it's that version of
Speaker 4: Geno Smith, then I think we can be really excited
Speaker 4: about what the Jets are. If it is the version
Speaker 4: of Geno Smith we saw in Las Vegas, then we're
Speaker 4: all going to be really really disappointed by it. And
Speaker 4: so for that reason, I think, yeah, I will probably
Speaker 4: take my shots at Breese Hall A Gary Wilson because
Speaker 4: I'll do enough drafts where they'll they'll be on the board.
Speaker 4: But I will say that for the most part, I
Speaker 4: think I'm going to just take a step back and
Speaker 4: let other people sort of figure out what's going on there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was looking at ADP before we did
Speaker 2: the show, and I saw the Breeshall still hanging around
Speaker 2: RB fourteen, it just feels too rich. It feels weird
Speaker 2: because especially the comments from Glenn. Again, I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that Breeshall is not going to lead this committee and
Speaker 2: that I still think he's a lock for two twenty five,
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty touches, but RB fourteen still feels
Speaker 2: a little bit rich. I will say that I did
Speaker 2: a mock auction the other night where he went for
Speaker 2: twenty two bucks. That feels a lot better. I'm cool
Speaker 2: with that, but I don't believe twenty two bucks translates
Speaker 2: to RB fourteen. I think that translates more to the
Speaker 2: bottom of RB two territory. I'm more excited in an
Speaker 2: auction for that low twenties than I am for where
Speaker 2: he's going in snake drafts, you know, the geno thing.
Speaker 2: It's weird to me. He's got to be better, right,
Speaker 2: right than what they had.
Speaker 1: I I don't know.
Speaker 4: If the Falcons have taught me anything over the last
Speaker 4: few years. It's that it doesn't necessarily have to be better, right.
Speaker 4: I mean, we went through Marcus Mariota and it's like, okay, well,
Speaker 4: you know, Michael Pennix has to be better, right, Well,
Speaker 4: not necessarily. You know they had the broken down statue.
Speaker 4: That was Kirk Cousins trying to come back for a
Speaker 4: little bit. I mean, every time we look at the
Speaker 4: Falcons are like, well, it has to be better, right
Speaker 4: and it hasn't.
Speaker 1: Necessarily been better.
Speaker 4: So you talk about lessons from twenty twenty five that
Speaker 4: I'm taking into twenty twenty six, one of them is
Speaker 4: that it doesn't always have to be better just because
Speaker 4: you changed your quarterback.
Speaker 2: That's that's very true, very true. Well, I've got an
Speaker 2: even more exciting offense that we can talk about. It's
Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans. So are you excited? He's properly excited
Speaker 2: and he's sat up in his chair. Nobody can see it.
Speaker 2: But again, we're talking about some value. There's gonna be
Speaker 2: some value. And I was a little bit surprised to
Speaker 2: see that Carnell Tait is actually going off about wide
Speaker 2: receiver thirty right now. And people have completely written off
Speaker 2: Wandale Robinson. Now, I had a lot of success last
Speaker 2: year in fantasy football with Wandale Robinson on my team
Speaker 2: because he was so cheap, and it looks like it's
Speaker 2: happening again. Now, I'm not sure that we're in a
Speaker 2: much worse situation than he was last year with the
Speaker 2: quarterbacks he was playing with. Maybe it's slightly worse. We
Speaker 2: certainly haven't heard good things about cam Ward from Mini camp,
Speaker 2: which is a little concerning because it's like Mini camp
Speaker 2: should be where we get all the glowing reports, and
Speaker 2: we didn't hear a lot of great stuff about Ward.
Speaker 2: But boy, it sure feels like Robinson's being left for dead.
Speaker 2: What do you make of this wide receiver corp in Tennessee?
Speaker 4: I So I will start by saying that last year
Speaker 4: I was big on elec Iomanner as a late round sleeper,
Speaker 4: and there are a few weeks that he really did
Speaker 4: sort of provide some value for you, but eventually has
Speaker 4: to be expected for a guy that was when a
Speaker 4: day three picked. I mean, eventually he sort of fell off,
Speaker 4: not a major surprise, but also it didn't hurt necessarily
Speaker 4: because you didn't invest very heavily in him or chim Dka,
Speaker 4: So that was okay. Wandel Robinsonty has some value. I
Speaker 4: will also give you the caveat Look, we live in
Speaker 4: a PPR world, right, That's just what it is now.
Speaker 4: Wandale Robinson is one of the guys who has radicalized
Speaker 4: me against full point PPRU because there's nothing like the
Speaker 4: the Wandale Robinson ten catch sixty five yard game or
Speaker 4: something like that, and then he gets like it, you know,
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden're looking at sixteen seventeen
Speaker 4: points and if he scores a touchdown at the twenty
Speaker 4: three point game, and it's like, but you didn't really
Speaker 4: do anything but that.
Speaker 2: I had my mic off, but I gave you a
Speaker 2: hearty laugh there on the one the radicalization against PPR, Sorry,
Speaker 2: go ahead that aside.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the world we live in, so
Speaker 4: why not take advantage of it. I think he can
Speaker 4: be a little more productive than that. I'm I'm intrigued
Speaker 4: by Carnal Tate because again, you saw cam Ward kind
Speaker 4: of occasionally do some things with.
Speaker 1: Some day three wide receivers.
Speaker 4: So now the Titans look like they're investing at the
Speaker 4: wide receiver position to try to help cam Ward out.
Speaker 4: The other piece to this, though, is I need for
Speaker 4: Tennessee to do something about that offensive line because on
Speaker 4: the occasions I watched the Titans last year, the passing
Speaker 4: game basically was cam Ward drops back and either chucks
Speaker 4: it immediately or starts scrambling and rolling out.
Speaker 1: And then chucks the ball.
Speaker 4: But either way, it wasn't a whole lot of cam
Speaker 4: Wards standing there with time to survey the field, go
Speaker 4: through his reads, and then make a play. So if
Speaker 4: they can do something to at least give him a
Speaker 4: little more time to get the ball out, then I
Speaker 4: think you're gonna see a lot more production out of
Speaker 4: Robinson and especially out of Tate.
Speaker 1: But I was looking.
Speaker 4: I think I saw Carneal Tate somewhere around wide receiver
Speaker 4: thirty or something like that, which is not necessarily terrible,
Speaker 4: Like I can I can sort of rock with that,
Speaker 4: especially if if I go heavy wide receiver early, then
Speaker 4: I think I can take Tate and have him as
Speaker 4: a third or fourth wide receiver, and I think I'd
Speaker 4: feel a little better about him there.
Speaker 2: I tend to agree with you there. And I was
Speaker 2: just quickly looking up offensive line rankings. Football guys, has
Speaker 2: Matt Patonti does our offensive line rankings. He has them.
Speaker 2: Still is the twenty sixth ranked offensive That sounds about right.
Speaker 2: I don't really feel like they did a whole lot
Speaker 2: to upgrade, So to your point, it still could continue
Speaker 2: to be a problem. I just I'm very nervous about
Speaker 2: the entire offensive environment. And then we've got the little
Speaker 2: thorn in the side, Calvin Ridley, still hanging out there
Speaker 2: trying to get work. It really seems like it could
Speaker 2: be a mess.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I sometimes literally forget Calvin Ridley exists.
Speaker 4: I say, you know which, I think your description of
Speaker 4: him as a thorn in the side is probably perfect because, like,
Speaker 4: if you are unfortunate enough to draft him, like I
Speaker 4: don't feel like you don't target Calvin Ridley, you just.
Speaker 1: Sort of end up with Calvin. It's one of those
Speaker 1: things where like.
Speaker 4: As soon as you hit as soon as you click
Speaker 4: the button that says draft, you probably also let out
Speaker 4: a big sigh like okay, and you know there'll be
Speaker 4: those one or two games where he gives you you know,
Speaker 4: you'll get eighteen points out of him, right, and you're like, hey,
Speaker 4: that was really cool, And then the rest of the time,
Speaker 4: when you're getting like five to seven, you're gonna be annoyed.
Speaker 4: What's gonna happen is he'll do just enough that you
Speaker 4: know he's going to make life miserable for everybody else
Speaker 4: that if you have Tate. If you have Robinson, Calvin
Speaker 4: Ridley's gonna do just enough to take food off their
Speaker 4: plate and frustrate you, but not enough that you're gonna
Speaker 4: be like, Man, I gotta get Calvin Ridley in my
Speaker 4: lineup every week.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It sure seems like we were expecting him to
Speaker 2: come back from the suspension a couple of years ago
Speaker 2: and be the guy that he was before. We have
Speaker 2: never seen it, except for some flashes, like you said,
Speaker 2: so I think it's time to give up on that
Speaker 2: whole prospect unless we have significant injuries that forces him
Speaker 2: back into an alpha role, which I'm not really willing
Speaker 2: to do that. But you know, at this point, what
Speaker 2: is it an eighteenth or twenty round pick that doesn't
Speaker 2: hurt us if we want to do that, but I'm
Speaker 2: certainly not trying to. Okay, let's go to a slightly
Speaker 2: more interesting offense down in New Orleans because we saw
Speaker 2: at the end of last year what we think could
Speaker 2: be the glimmer of hope for twenty twenty six. We
Speaker 2: saw the rookie come in and play pretty well. We
Speaker 2: know that Kellen Moore is a gifted offensive mind, and
Speaker 2: I was looking into some personnel groupings, He ran a
Speaker 2: lot of eleven personnel. Our buddy Pat Foreman does a
Speaker 2: lot of pace work, says that they play pretty fast,
Speaker 2: and then they went and drafted Jordan Tyson. So things
Speaker 2: look optimistic in New Orleans. But I have to say,
Speaker 2: we're we're certainly not talking about the Detroit Lions, but
Speaker 2: the backfield is kind of weird too. So I guess,
Speaker 2: maybe what's your snapshot of do you feel optimistic like
Speaker 2: we should coming off of last year? And then we'll
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the backfield in a second.
Speaker 4: I do, actually, I do feel optimistic. And I say
Speaker 4: that as somebody who was skeptical of Tyler Shuck last year,
Speaker 4: and so I had to admit that, hey man, this
Speaker 4: dude has has exceeded what I thought he could be.
Speaker 4: And on top of it, he sort of lifted a
Speaker 4: lot of the guys around him. He made me excited
Speaker 4: about Chris Olave again, right, He got me excited about
Speaker 4: what was going to happen in that offense. And so
Speaker 4: I do have some optimism around the Saints' offense. You
Speaker 4: mentioned Kellen Moore and guy kind of on the sticks
Speaker 4: as they would. You know, he's on the one he's
Speaker 4: the one the controller. It does give me some reason
Speaker 4: to sort of hope. I mean, I don't think I'm
Speaker 4: making Tyler Shuck my every week quarterback. But if I decide,
Speaker 4: then I'm gonna wait on a quarterback, and at that
Speaker 4: point I'll probably end up taking two guys. I don't
Speaker 4: know that I'd feel terrible with Tyler Shuck as my
Speaker 4: QB two and playing him in the right spots. And
Speaker 4: it's got me excited about drafting Chris o'lave again. It's
Speaker 4: funny our power. Lakwan Jones had a chance to run
Speaker 4: into him. He was down in New Orleans for I
Speaker 4: think an HBCU event or something like that, and ran
Speaker 4: into Chris o'lave and I sort of asked him, this
Speaker 4: is before the draft, about how he would feel if
Speaker 4: the Saints either got a wide receiver and free agency
Speaker 4: or drafted went and Olave was diplomatic, but he sort
Speaker 4: of turned his nose up at it. I think he was,
Speaker 4: you know, it was more of a wide receiver being like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to have to share targets with anybody.
Speaker 1: But he also was very excited about Tyler Shuck.
Speaker 4: And so that gave me reason to feel even better
Speaker 4: about it, so to bring in a guy like Jordan
Speaker 4: Tyson to pair him up with Chris o'lave. I do
Speaker 4: think there's reason to be optimistic about the Saints. Weirdly,
Speaker 4: this is a non fantasy take here, but I mean
Speaker 4: it wouldn't be crazy when you look at that division,
Speaker 4: if you know, maybe the Saints somehow squeaked in and
Speaker 4: won the thing and got into the playoffs. I mean,
Speaker 4: there's there's no real clear cut favorite in the NFC South.
Speaker 4: So the Saints rising up and somehow winning it. Now,
Speaker 4: mind you, they'll be like, you know, nine eight or
Speaker 4: something like that, but that might be enough to win
Speaker 4: the NFC South this year.
Speaker 2: It might be. And I saw a funny meme the
Speaker 2: other day where it was just the four helmets from
Speaker 2: that division and they were all thinking the same thought bubble, like,
Speaker 2: we're the easily the best team in this division, which
Speaker 2: is definitely what they're all thinking. So yeah, I totally
Speaker 2: agree with you about the optimism. I hope that Shuck
Speaker 2: runs like he did a little bit last year, and
Speaker 2: I hope that's part of the plan for him, because
Speaker 2: fantasy wise, he could really turn into a really nice
Speaker 2: QB two or have some flashes with low end QB
Speaker 2: one upside on a weekly basis if he continues to run.
Speaker 2: So I hope they do that. But let's talk about
Speaker 2: their running game for a minute, because we know they try.
Speaker 2: They signed Travis Chan, right, I knew that, didn't I
Speaker 2: it's the all it's it's the all pronunciation backfield because
Speaker 2: you know, I talked about the quarterback and I wasn't.
Speaker 2: Can we settle this once and for all. It's pronounced
Speaker 2: like s huc k. Is that right?
Speaker 1: Yes? Correct?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's and you know I've been saying that it
Speaker 2: feels weird to say it when you look at his name,
Speaker 2: but I've been told that's the way to say it anyway.
Speaker 2: So yeah, So they sign Chan away from Jacksonville, but
Speaker 2: they've still got Alvin Kamara hanging around there and he's
Speaker 2: pretty much been left for dead. I believe he's at
Speaker 2: RB forty nine and like nobody wants to draft him.
Speaker 2: Everybody's just completely given up on him. That feels a
Speaker 2: little bit weird to me, especially in PPR, that people
Speaker 2: are just ignoring him all together. I don't think that's
Speaker 2: going to be the end result, but maybe I'm crazy here.
Speaker 2: What do you think about how this backfield chakes out?
Speaker 4: I was super excited to see Han go to New Orleans. Now, yeah,
Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara is still there, but this sort of feels
Speaker 4: like a thank you for your service. Like this feels like, hey,
Speaker 4: we're gonna you know, we're gonna let you hang around.
Speaker 4: You're kind of in alum basically who just gets to
Speaker 4: hang around the program for a little bit because I
Speaker 4: think his you fullness has pretty much evaporated on a
Speaker 4: real basis. And so I look at Chien coming in
Speaker 4: and sort of feel like, hey, this is this is
Speaker 4: sort of an Alvin Kamara reboot.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, we live in a world. I'm live
Speaker 1: out in the LA Everything in Hollywood is reboots and sequels.
Speaker 4: This is sort of a reboot of the Kamara years
Speaker 4: there in New Orleans. One of the things that I
Speaker 4: was always frustrated about in Jacksonville was that they never
Speaker 4: threw him the ball as much as I thought.
Speaker 1: They should have.
Speaker 4: Right we saw we saw Trevor Lawrence and Itchen at
Speaker 4: Clemson together, and he was a big part of the
Speaker 4: passing game in Clemson when they were winning national championships,
Speaker 4: and it never really translated to the NFL. I'm hoping
Speaker 4: that it's a bigger part of his game there in
Speaker 4: New Orleans. We've seen him be an effective runner. Now
Speaker 4: if he can add that that pass catching element to it. Look,
Speaker 4: I don't know, if you can catch seventy passes in
Speaker 4: a season, that'd be huge. I would love something like
Speaker 4: that for him in New Orleans. So I am I'm
Speaker 4: excited about it. I'm you know, Kamara is there, but
Speaker 4: I do think this is very much it's him's backfield,
Speaker 4: and I think we're gonna see uh Kamara just sort
Speaker 4: of you know, I don't know if there's a I
Speaker 4: wouldn't call it a victory lap.
Speaker 1: Uh, just sort of one last tour one, you know,
Speaker 1: like he's like a you know, an old.
Speaker 4: It's like a heist movie, right, just one last job
Speaker 4: before he goes off into retirement sort of thing.
Speaker 1: But I think that's the most we can expect from
Speaker 1: one more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it, just one last, one last you know,
Speaker 4: we can get out three days from retirement, man, and
Speaker 4: trying to get my island there, you know, get my
Speaker 4: house on an island somewhere in the Caribbean before I go.
Speaker 2: I'm getting too old for this ship exactly. So well,
Speaker 2: he's RB seventeen. Now. That feels pretty good to me.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm surprised because I'd flipped Breeze Hall on
Speaker 2: chand there because I'd much rather have the New Orleans back.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, I would too.
Speaker 4: No, I feel like there's a clearer sense of purpose
Speaker 4: with the Saints' offense and there is with the Jets.
Speaker 4: So yeah, if I can, you know, look at you
Speaker 4: want to take, if you want to say haul and
Speaker 4: let the eighth chan fall to me a couple spots later,
Speaker 4: I will say thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. RB seventeen feels pretty good. And something I've been
Speaker 2: ranting on all summer long, already, all through all three weeks.
Speaker 2: But I've been talking about all summer already. It's just
Speaker 2: that a lot of times we tend to get lost
Speaker 2: in the weeds with some of these guys. We just
Speaker 2: sort of pick them apart, we pick them to death,
Speaker 2: and then we get to August and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't really like the Saints because there's this and this
Speaker 2: and this, and I think we just need to take
Speaker 2: the talented guy that they wanted to sign that they
Speaker 2: were after and just let the chips fall where they may.
Speaker 2: If he catches some passes, great, If he doesn't, hey, whatever,
Speaker 2: we took the shot. There is that chance that they
Speaker 2: want to give him sixty catches or whatever. And if
Speaker 2: and if he does sixty seventy catches, man, you've you've
Speaker 2: absolutely signed yourself up for an RB one at mid
Speaker 2: to low RB two price, which I absolutely love so.
Speaker 1: Underson love it.
Speaker 4: By the way, you talk about getting guys getting picked
Speaker 4: apart in teams getting picked apart. You know this every
Speaker 4: day on Fantasy Twitter, fantasy social media. It just seems
Speaker 4: like every player, every Fantasy villaint player, just becomes the
Speaker 4: main story for a day. Yeah, for no real apparent reason.
Speaker 4: And I would tell you that it's really confusing when
Speaker 4: you live on the West Coast because you wake up
Speaker 4: and the conversation's already been going for several hours, and
Speaker 4: you're like, wait, why is everybody talking about Travis him today?
Speaker 4: And so you start like searching for headlines or maybe
Speaker 4: they did I miss a news story or something, And
Speaker 4: after like an hour, so you're like, no, people just
Speaker 4: decided just going to wake up and just talk about
Speaker 4: him today.
Speaker 2: It is a weird phenomenon, and it's got to be
Speaker 2: that algorithm that keeps feeding us the same topics. And
Speaker 2: it's also, like you said, it's very random too. And
Speaker 2: sometimes it's like there's narratives that get this runaway momentum
Speaker 2: before we can even have the conversation, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's it's it's gotten out of control, and
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, well, where how did we get here? So
Speaker 2: definitely definitely with you on that. So okay, well, enough
Speaker 2: of bottom feeding offenses. Let's talk about a couple of
Speaker 2: other things. I want to ask you about what your
Speaker 2: opinion is on Gwinshawn Jenkins, and Cam Scatamo coming off
Speaker 2: of fairly traumatic leg injuries. And this is something that
Speaker 2: we have to fight every year. And I was just
Speaker 2: having this conversation about Malik Neighbors recently, and he's not
Speaker 2: one I want to talk about because it's a different
Speaker 2: kind of injury. But we saw with Chris Godwin last year,
Speaker 2: we saw it with Tony Pollard a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: These traumatic leg injuries, even though they're not ligament related
Speaker 2: knee injuries, they tend to have an effect on their
Speaker 2: explosiveness and ability The next year but we're already seeing
Speaker 2: you know, Judkins looks quick and spry and in wearing
Speaker 2: his shorts, and we've heard that these guys, hey, they
Speaker 2: look great, they're coming along great, but we can't quantify
Speaker 2: what it is they've lost that year after after these
Speaker 2: traumatic injuries. So how are you treating these two guys?
Speaker 2: Are you comfortable with drafting them or are you kind
Speaker 2: of like, yeah, they're going to have to fall significantly
Speaker 2: for me to take them. How do you feel about
Speaker 2: both of those?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think they're gonna have to fall
Speaker 1: for me to take them.
Speaker 4: If I'm picking between the two, I think I would
Speaker 4: probably lean toward Judkins over Scataboo.
Speaker 1: And I look, I love Camp Scataboo at Arizona State.
Speaker 1: He was a lot of fun to know.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised to hear that you yeah, I did.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was just so much fun to watch.
Speaker 4: The problem is like, as fun as he is to watch,
Speaker 4: I don't I don't want the Kamakazi running back on
Speaker 4: my fantasy team just because you just don't know. I
Speaker 4: feel like Judkins, Yeah, he had the he had an awful,
Speaker 4: awful injury. He seems like he's more willing to protect
Speaker 4: himself in the context of the offense. I think the
Speaker 4: other part that applies to both these guys is how
Speaker 4: good are their respective offense is going to be also? Really,
Speaker 4: I mean the Browns, the Browns have done a lot
Speaker 4: of things to make me excited about their offense.
Speaker 1: They've added a lot.
Speaker 4: Of pieces, they get some some wide receivers. They still
Speaker 4: got to figure out the quarterback situation, but they have
Speaker 4: so many pieces around them offensively that that's reason to
Speaker 4: be excited. But I also, you know, in the back
Speaker 4: of my mind, I'm like, are they going to brown
Speaker 4: this up sort of thing? Because who knows? But but
Speaker 4: Judkins gets me a little bit more excited because I think,
Speaker 4: you know, even in the context of that offense, I
Speaker 4: think he's going to be better suited to kind of
Speaker 4: protect himself trying to stay on the field. I don't
Speaker 4: think Cam Scataboo has learned to not run through walls.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like, maybe this is me stereotyping. You know,
Speaker 4: the dude was caught on video licking windows like that
Speaker 4: doesn't get me excited about his prospects of staying healthy
Speaker 4: over the course of an eighteen game season.
Speaker 1: So For me, I do want to see both of them.
Speaker 4: I think I need their ADPs to come down a
Speaker 4: little bit, just because that that concern about the explosiveness,
Speaker 4: you know, about their ability, and I think a lot
Speaker 4: of it is confidence too, Like athletes who come who
Speaker 4: come through a major injury will tell you that a
Speaker 4: lot of the recovery is mental. It's you know, can
Speaker 4: you trust your body to do the things that it
Speaker 4: used to do. So for that reason, I don't know
Speaker 4: that I'm going to be heavily invested in either one
Speaker 4: of those guys.
Speaker 2: Well, I just got my fantasy team name for my
Speaker 2: home league, the window Lickers, So we're going to be
Speaker 2: the Scataboo window Lickers. And well, you know, I'm a
Speaker 2: little surprised to see their ADPs right now because Judkins
Speaker 2: is at nineteen and Scataboo's at twenty, twenty one or
Speaker 2: twenty two. That feels no, I'm sorry, Scataboo's at nineteen,
Speaker 2: Judkins is at twenty two. That feels like you said,
Speaker 2: that feels flipped to me, but also it feels rich. Again.
Speaker 2: I just I much rather have Breese Hall hn like.
Speaker 2: And I know that those guys are going a little
Speaker 2: bit ahead. But that feels rich to me. Done it
Speaker 2: to you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it definitely is. That feels very outen.
Speaker 4: That feels almost like drafting some of those guys pretty
Speaker 4: close to their ceilings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't do that.
Speaker 2: Not a guy that's going to catch a bunch of passes, right,
Speaker 2: That's not something we've seen from them now.
Speaker 1: And again, I mean both of these offenses. Like, I'm
Speaker 1: hopeful about what the Browns are doing.
Speaker 4: I think there's sort of reason to be optimistic, but
Speaker 4: you know, I still think there's a cap on how
Speaker 4: many touchdowns these teams are going to score, which automatically
Speaker 4: puts a cap on how many touchdowns the running backs
Speaker 4: could score. I also do think there's the Browns factor
Speaker 4: of Hey, I don't know if you heard, but they
Speaker 4: traded away their actual superhero in Miles Garrett. I mean, look,
Speaker 4: they get Jared verseback, who's a good player, he's not
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett, and that's going to have an impact on
Speaker 4: that defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I'll tell you what. As far as
Speaker 2: bad offenses go, I really think the Giants have a
Speaker 2: chance to bot him out. This year could be really bad.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, those ADPs just don't make
Speaker 2: a lot of sense to me. So I'm glad we
Speaker 2: talked about that for a minute. Well, we're going to
Speaker 2: end here with a couple fun topics that are not
Speaker 2: Calvin really related. We're gonna I want to talk about.
Speaker 2: First of all, let's have a little fun at the
Speaker 2: top of the draft. Let's say you draw the number
Speaker 2: one pick and we're talking full PPR even though fight
Speaker 2: the Power Radicalized against. What do you think about we've
Speaker 2: we've really got three candidates, right, Bijon Robinson, Jamier Gibbs
Speaker 2: and Jamar Chase. What do you think about the very
Speaker 2: top of the draft and how do you rank those
Speaker 2: guys and why.
Speaker 4: For me, it's either it's either Robinson or Gibbs at
Speaker 4: number one. I'm leaning toward Robinson just because so I
Speaker 4: think when you look at kind of the two offenses there,
Speaker 4: those two guys, they're very similar obviously in what they do,
Speaker 4: They're very similar in what their ceilings are. But what
Speaker 4: tipped it to me was the Falcons going out and
Speaker 4: getting to a tongue of iolola. So now you've got Tua,
Speaker 4: you got Michael Pinnix that are going to be in
Speaker 4: some weird quarterback competition because I don't know, the Falcons
Speaker 4: just like vomiting on their shoes or something.
Speaker 1: For some reason, I don't get it. But what it means.
Speaker 4: Is that Robinson, who's already a big time pass catcher
Speaker 4: in that offense, could get even more targets when you
Speaker 4: have to us, say at the beginning of the season,
Speaker 4: getting under pressure and just with you know, panic, dump
Speaker 4: offs to Jon Robinson on top of all the carries
Speaker 4: he's going to get in just the natural targets he
Speaker 4: gets within the context of the offense, so that.
Speaker 1: Gives him a slide edge.
Speaker 4: I do feel like there's sort of no wrong answer
Speaker 4: between Bijon and Jamier Gibbs. I'm going Jon Robinson. I've
Speaker 4: got chase at three. I think the range of outcomes
Speaker 4: for him is fairly narrow. But I do still think
Speaker 4: there's the the Joe Burrow issue in the sense that
Speaker 4: the Bengals still struggle to protect him consistently, and there's
Speaker 4: always there's always the chance that Burrow somewhere along the way.
Speaker 4: This is three to five games, and yes, Jamier Gibbs
Speaker 4: can still prosper with a backup quarterback, but the ceiling
Speaker 4: gets a little bit lower. So I just think that
Speaker 4: that issue comes into play a little bit with Chase,
Speaker 4: which makes him more of number three for me.
Speaker 2: I was talking to my son earlier because we're doing
Speaker 2: a father son in Fantasy League, and I said, you
Speaker 2: want to do that again? He said, yeah, he had
Speaker 2: Bejon last year, and he says, well, now that Tyler
Speaker 2: Algier is gone, I want to have Bijon again. I said,
Speaker 2: I said, it doesn't mean he's automatically going to get
Speaker 2: all the goal line carries, but I tell you what,
Speaker 2: it did seem like they figured it out a little
Speaker 2: bit at the end of the year, not totally, but
Speaker 2: they gave some Bejon some goal line carries. And I
Speaker 2: specifically remember, I believe it was a carry against Carolina
Speaker 2: where the guy broke into the backfield and he was
Speaker 2: like on the two yard line, jumped on Bijon's back
Speaker 2: and he kind of just like shrugged him off and
Speaker 2: walked in the end zone. And I thought, now, that
Speaker 2: is a guy who knows how to put the ball
Speaker 2: on the end zone. But they just loved Tyler Algier.
Speaker 2: So I'm interested to see what they do with that
Speaker 2: this year, because that certainly would make me want Bejon
Speaker 2: over Gibbs. I think for me right now it's probably Gibbs,
Speaker 2: then Bejon. But I also agree that Chase is number three,
Speaker 2: and it is that uncertainty of Joe Burrow and that
Speaker 2: offense and what happens if he goes down. So you know,
Speaker 2: we can't live scared all the time, but I'm certainly
Speaker 2: going to break the tie there by putting him third
Speaker 2: behind those running backs. All right, well, I want to
Speaker 2: leave everyone with the favorite topic that everyone has this
Speaker 2: time of the year, which is we've got these narratives developing,
Speaker 2: and we've got ADP shaping up, and a lot of
Speaker 2: that stuff's going to change come early August when the
Speaker 2: casuals start to get in and decide who they like.
Speaker 2: And they don't really care that we've been talking about
Speaker 2: it since March. So but for right now, what do
Speaker 2: you think, Why don't we start out with a couple
Speaker 2: guys that you feel like are overvalued right now? How
Speaker 2: about two guys that you think that you just can't
Speaker 2: click the button right now because there's too high right now.
Speaker 4: One is Luther Burden, and from the moment Dj Moore
Speaker 4: left to go to Buffalo, the Luther Burden hype train
Speaker 4: just left it full. It turned into a bullet train
Speaker 4: just the way it left the station, and I get it.
Speaker 4: Dunza was disappointing last year, and we saw a little
Speaker 4: bit of Burden flash late in the season. But just
Speaker 4: where he's going right now, I think I saw his
Speaker 4: adp at like forty two overall. So you're telling me
Speaker 4: I got to spend in twelve team leagues a mid
Speaker 4: fourth round pick on Luther Burden, Like, I'm not anywhere
Speaker 4: close to that right now, and he's going ahead of o'doonsay,
Speaker 4: who I think bounces back this year. I think you
Speaker 4: just I think you see the connection between him and
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams. I think you're gonna see o'doonsay bounce back.
Speaker 4: I also am a big fan of Colston Loveland. He
Speaker 4: is my solid tight end three. Like, I'm not willing
Speaker 4: to go early enough to get Bowers or you know,
Speaker 4: we're who else am.
Speaker 1: I missing at the Titan spot. I'm blanking out McBride.
Speaker 4: The just I just had a brain fart there, But
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not willing to.
Speaker 1: Go early enough to get either one of those guys.
Speaker 4: So I'll wait and I'll say Colston Loveland at tight
Speaker 4: end three and'd be perfectly happy with it. He's going
Speaker 4: right about the same spot as Luther Burden. I think
Speaker 4: you talk opportune costs, it's just a better situation there.
Speaker 4: So I am sort of out on Luther Burden until
Speaker 4: that's the Luther.
Speaker 1: That's a Luther Burden alarm. That's the hey man, it
Speaker 1: is Luther Burden, That's what that is.
Speaker 4: The other guy that I think is overvalued is Jeremiah
Speaker 4: Love And it's not about his talent, it's about situation.
Speaker 4: And I feel like, did we already forget the lessons
Speaker 4: of Ashton Genty from a couple of years ago? That
Speaker 4: Genty is a guy who was super talented and put
Speaker 4: up monster numbers at Boise State, and then he gets
Speaker 4: drafted by the Raiders. And I remember when he got
Speaker 4: drafted and people immediately were like, well, he's gonna be
Speaker 4: a late first round pick, maybe even a mid first
Speaker 4: round pick.
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you are you nuts? Like the Raiders
Speaker 1: are still bad.
Speaker 4: And when you look at Gent's rookie year, like in
Speaker 4: the grand scheme of things, it was not a bad
Speaker 4: rookie year, but for where he was coming off the board,
Speaker 4: you were left disappointed by what you got out of
Speaker 4: Ashton gent and I think you're gonna have the same
Speaker 4: thing with Jeremiah Love.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals are still a bad team.
Speaker 4: Like the NFC West is going to be a three
Speaker 4: team race, right I mean, the Rams right now are
Speaker 4: the favorite for the Super Bowl, the Seahawks are you're
Speaker 4: defending super Bowl champs. The forty nine ers are still
Speaker 4: going to be very good and you know very well
Speaker 4: could be a playoff team.
Speaker 1: And then you got the Cardinals.
Speaker 4: It's that dragon meme with the multiple heads, where like,
Speaker 4: you know, a couple of them are looking mean and
Speaker 4: then the third one is looking kind of goofy.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the Cardinals. They're the fourth goofy head over.
Speaker 4: There also the fact that you know your son talked
Speaker 4: about Tyler Aljier not being in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: He's in Arizona.
Speaker 4: Now they got to add him, so he's going to
Speaker 4: get some of those opportunities.
Speaker 1: And there's James Connor.
Speaker 4: Like I've I've been a James Connor fan for a while,
Speaker 4: I am willing to admit that at this point, after
Speaker 4: multiple injuries and just getting older at his place in
Speaker 4: the offense, is going to be diminished over what it was.
Speaker 4: But I don't think they completely kicked him to the curb.
Speaker 4: I still think he's going to get opportunities. So now
Speaker 4: you're looking at a three headed situation and an offense
Speaker 4: that's going to be bad.
Speaker 1: Part of the reason we love.
Speaker 4: Jacobe Brissett is because they're always playing from behind and
Speaker 4: they had to throw the ball a ton. So I
Speaker 4: just think with the excitement around Jeremiah Love, if this
Speaker 4: were in Dynasty, I get it one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 4: In redraft leagues, I think I'm gonna pass because I
Speaker 4: think the price is gonna be way too rich for him.
Speaker 2: We also have an offensive line problem in Arizona still
Speaker 2: as well, because again according to football guys, he's got
Speaker 2: the twenty seventh ranked offensive line in front of him,
Speaker 2: and as you said, the aforementioned Tyler Algier, that looks
Speaker 2: like a weird thing to figure out. In general, those
Speaker 2: three guys, it's it's it's odd that they did that
Speaker 2: after signing Algier. I bet you Algier is not happy
Speaker 2: about that. I would love for it to clear up
Speaker 2: to a two man committee by I don't know, cutting
Speaker 2: Connor or trading Algier or something. But it looks like
Speaker 2: they're sticking with the three. That's weird, and it's difficult
Speaker 2: because it's still gonna cost you a mid second round
Speaker 2: pick to get love. I'm with you, I'm out middle
Speaker 2: of second round on Jeremiah the Luther Burden thing. I
Speaker 2: love the call. I was a little bit surprised when
Speaker 2: I did this auction the other night that he only
Speaker 2: went for twenty four bucks. I expected him to go
Speaker 2: for more. But then there's a lot of guys who
Speaker 2: are veterans who really know how to produce in the
Speaker 2: NFL that are going for the same price. So that
Speaker 2: would say that Burden is overrated at that price. And
Speaker 2: you know what's weird with with the Burden Odunze thing
Speaker 2: is I mentioned this the other day. I really think
Speaker 2: that if o'dunze had had a healthy season, we'd be
Speaker 2: having a different conversation right now. So I'm with you
Speaker 2: that I'd rather take the chance at wide receiver twenty
Speaker 2: eight on o'dunze than I would on Burden, who's going
Speaker 2: ahead of him. So like those two calls, let's end
Speaker 2: with some optimism and hey, we're doing great here. We're
Speaker 2: at forty two minutes. So this is going to work
Speaker 2: out great. How about two guys that you think are
Speaker 2: undervalued right now that you're going to be chasing the drafts.
Speaker 4: A couple of rookies. Actually one is Jenarian Price in Seattle.
Speaker 4: It says something that the Seahawks felt good enough that
Speaker 4: they were willing to let super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker
Speaker 4: the Third, which, by the way, that's his full given name.
Speaker 4: Now he's super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker the Third. Uh,
Speaker 4: they let him go that, Yeah, that's it. He's officially
Speaker 4: changed his birth certificate to say that. But the Seahawks
Speaker 4: are willing to let him walk because they felt like
Speaker 4: they could replace his production.
Speaker 1: They go and they draft Jederion Price.
Speaker 4: Keep in mind, Zach Charbonay suffered a really nasty injury
Speaker 4: very late in the season, So I don't know that
Speaker 4: we're gonna see Zach Charboney ready to go early in
Speaker 4: the year. Seahawks aren't going to just not run the football,
Speaker 4: So I think you're gonna see Jenerarian Price get a
Speaker 4: large amount of opportunity. I'm not terrified that George Holani
Speaker 4: is going to somehow step in there and take all
Speaker 4: these touches away from him. Uh So, I think I
Speaker 4: think Price has a real opportunity early in the season to.
Speaker 1: Sort of establish himself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he'll end up having to share touches whenever it
Speaker 4: is sharbon Ay come back, but by then he could
Speaker 4: really have done a lot to solidify himself in that position.
Speaker 4: So I'm willing to take the shot on Jendarian Price
Speaker 4: the other one. And you know, I can't come on
Speaker 4: this show and not at least be a little bit
Speaker 4: of a usc homer at some point. It's mckaye Lemon,
Speaker 4: And I was excited about mckaye Lemon anyway.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we all knew aj Brown was
Speaker 1: getting traded.
Speaker 4: That was sort of like when they finally announced it,
Speaker 4: It wasn't surprised. It was kind of a general like finally,
Speaker 4: like we all kind of knew it was going to happen.
Speaker 4: So that opens up an opportunity for Makaye Lemon in
Speaker 4: that offense. I know everybody's excited about Carnell Tate, They're
Speaker 4: excited about Jordan Tyson, on and on and on. The
Speaker 4: flag plant that I'm going with right now is that
Speaker 4: Makaye Lemon will be the number one rookie wide receiver
Speaker 4: in fantasy football. Because he's in a good offense. There's
Speaker 4: plenty of opportunity. He's a talented player. If they can
Speaker 4: get him in space, he's really great after the catch.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I think DeVonta Smith gets a bump from aj Brown
Speaker 4: not being there as well, but really excited about in
Speaker 4: this offense and especially where he's going, you don't have
Speaker 4: to risk a lot of draft capital to get him.
Speaker 4: I can't imagine he's going for that much in auctions
Speaker 4: at this point, but I think I think their reward
Speaker 4: far outweighs the risk for adding women this year.
Speaker 2: Okay, I just got done talking about Jenerian Price on
Speaker 2: last week's show. So this is awesome because he's going
Speaker 2: with some guys that are really just uninspiring veterans. And
Speaker 2: I'm not saying those veterans don't have their place on
Speaker 2: your fantasy teams, because some of them, like Tony Pollar,
Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift, they're gonna get touches and they play a role,
Speaker 2: especially in deeper leagues where you need guys that are
Speaker 2: going to have a consistent amount of twelve to fifteen touches.
Speaker 2: But I think Price is just a perfect X factor
Speaker 2: that stands out among all of those guys right there,
Speaker 2: because he could really take the rings and just go nuts.
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Wilson is a guy who originally I thought, oh, well,
Speaker 2: maybe they're bringing him in to carry the ball a lot,
Speaker 2: but he's just very uninteresting to me. He's not explosive,
Speaker 2: he's not proven to be this amazing NFL back. So
Speaker 2: I think that things behind Price could be a little
Speaker 2: bit weird and we could spend some time talking about
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Wilson when really the guy that they want to
Speaker 2: touch the ball in so'lani. But I love the price
Speaker 2: call because I just got done saying this is a
Speaker 2: guy we should be taking a chance on. So and hey,
Speaker 2: look death taxes and a USC wide receiver. That is
Speaker 2: how we roll here on the auction Brief with Marcus Grant.
Speaker 2: This has been a really fun conversation. Man. We brought
Speaker 2: it in right when we needed to. So thank you
Speaker 2: so much for being here. I know you got a
Speaker 2: heart out here in a few minutes. But just remind
Speaker 2: everybody where they can find you and find your work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you find me. I am still on X occasionally
Speaker 4: at Marcus g over there. I'm also on Blue Sky.
Speaker 4: I think of Marcus g there also, So that's most
Speaker 4: of where you can find me. If you want to
Speaker 4: hear me talk about things that aren't fantasy football, you
Speaker 4: can go to ESPN Los Angeles's YouTube page.
Speaker 1: I do what's called the Blue Review every morning.
Speaker 4: During baseball season, we talked Dodger baseball, but also at
Speaker 4: ESPN Los Angeles in general. I do some filling work there,
Speaker 4: just doing radio stuff. And then once we sort of
Speaker 4: get going again, I'll be back with Michael left Florio.
Speaker 1: We'll be doing NFL Fantasy Live.
Speaker 4: Now we're all we're officially ESPN employees, and now that
Speaker 4: they've taken it over, so I know we're going long.
Speaker 1: This is I will take the blame for this.
Speaker 2: Twe no, no, no, we're good. We're good.
Speaker 4: Fun fact, because we're ESPN slash Disney employees. You're not
Speaker 4: an employee of the Walt Disney Company, you are a
Speaker 4: cast member. So we were officially Disney cast members. Is
Speaker 4: that the term they use to describe us.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's there's a there's a joke there somewhere.
Speaker 2: I haven't figured it out yet, but I will before July,
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna I'm gonna have to use that for
Speaker 2: you in Florio, but okay, well that's cool, man. You
Speaker 2: know when do do you know when you're gonna go on?
Speaker 2: Like when the show starts.
Speaker 1: I would guess August.
Speaker 4: They haven't I told us just yet, but usually we
Speaker 4: get going, usually in August, right around the end of
Speaker 4: the preseason. It's kind of when we start to come back,
Speaker 4: because that's when, you know, for for most normies, not
Speaker 4: as nerds who do this, when most regular thinking people
Speaker 4: start doing their drafts as usually right at the end
Speaker 4: of the preseasons, that's usually when we start to jump
Speaker 4: back in again.
Speaker 2: All right, well this is a perfect man. I've had
Speaker 2: a really fun conversation with this afternoon, and so thank
Speaker 2: you so much for joining me. I appreciate you making
Speaker 2: the time for the show once again.
Speaker 4: Always good time to talk to you, Drew, and I
Speaker 4: look forward to seeing you in July and Canton.
Speaker 2: Can't wait for campon, Buddy, It's gonna be awesome. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much. To Marcus Grant from the NFL Network
Speaker 2: cast member with Disney, Marcus, you knocked it out of
Speaker 2: the park once again. Thanks for being here. It's another
Speaker 2: week of discussions with Drew. All Right, that's gonna wrap
Speaker 2: up another week of discussions with as we strive to
Speaker 2: talk with the smartest people in the business every single week.
Speaker 2: Don't forget to tune in Thursday morning for my solo
Speaker 2: time and the Auction Brief. Mike, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for joining us this week. I'll talk to you real soon.
Speaker 2: The Auction Brief is adjourned.
Speaker 3: The Auction Brief is adjourn that'll do it for this
Speaker 3: week's episode. See you next time on the Auction Brief.