Speaker 1: Hey guys, this is Dave Gebro from the Disco Graffiti
Podcast and you're listening to the Surely You Can't Be
Serious Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You Can't
Be Serious Podcast. We are back for part two of
our Christine Versus Kujoe versus The Dead Zone, the Stephen
King trifecta of nineteen eighty three. All of these movies
forty years old this year, and we're celebrating them on
Halloween month, right shoot, this episode's going to drop right
next to Halloween, so you.
Speaker 3: Guys are getting your costumes ready where you're just as
a nineteen fifty eight Red Fury.
Speaker 2: I want to wish everyone a happy Halloween. For the
thousands of Shirley fans that we have out there, welcome
back for the thousands of new people who seem to
be joining us every day. We will treat this episode
as an icebreaker, because the ice is gonna break. Yeah,
the ice is gonna bright.
Speaker 3: You know, every time I think about the Dead Zone,
that line totally comes to mind.
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If you've missed part one, you can start here or
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Speaker 3: Do We've got a five star review that I want
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Speaker 3: My favorite episodes are when you guys compare movies with
one another. So maybe he'll like today. But he recommended
total recall versus Starship Troopers.
Speaker 2: Man, that's fantastic. Oliver Hoven, Yeah, that'd be fun, right, absolutely. Yeah.
We did a podcast on Total Recall with the thirty
something movie guys and that was a super amount of fun.
But we could definitely go and deep dive into it,
and then versus Starship Troopers would be a perfect matchup.
That's right.
Speaker 3: And you know, just kind of a little side connection
to Total Recall. David Cronenberg worked heavily on Total Recall, Yeah,
and it just wasn't happening for him, and so he
abandoned that ship and ended up making The Fly, which
we talked about during our Halloween movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also that one has been recommended to us
that we do a match out the Fly, and the
suggestion was the thing, right, which would have made sense,
But we've already done that one. Sure, But now I'm
thinking we do that one versus The Body Snatchers because
they're both movies from the fifties that were re made
in the seventies and eighties. That'd be fun, that would
be fun. Yeah. Well, guys, you were here to listen
to us talk about Stephen King, so we're going to
talk about Stephen King and the movies that he produced. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Once we talk about these three movies, I'm going to
give you a list. So I know you haven't read
too many of Stephen King books. You've read a few,
and we actually put it out as a poll on
our Patriot member and then several of them have read
ten plus books.
Speaker 2: By Stephen King.
Speaker 3: We are going to give you our list of the
top three Stephen King film adaptations, and then just for fun,
I'm going to throw in my top three Stephen King
books and I may even throw in some short stories
for you.
Speaker 2: So sounds great, man, sounds great? Okay, Okay. So we
mentioned last time, or at least we kind of grazed
over the idea that the inspiration for Kujo was actually
an experience that Stephen King had had. He had a motorcycle.
He needed some repair work done to the motorcycle and
was told, Hey, there's this guy who lives out in
the country, but he's really a good mechanic and he
works for a good price. And so he drives his
motorcycle out there, and once he gets there, is immediately
confronted by a very mean, nasty dog.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now it's interesting because we've gotten that information from Stephen King.
He's like, this, this is what inspired me to write
this book. He's also said, I was so addicted to
alcohol and cocaine at this point that I do not
remember writing the book at all. So it's crazy. Can
remember the inspiration for the story. He just can't remember
writing the story. It's it's kind of nuts.
Speaker 3: Hey, this will not be the last time that cocaine
comes up, because I've got a story for you that's
gonna play your socks off.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to hear it. So he writes that story.
As we mentioned, the producer for Christine was also the
producer for Salem's Lot, and Stephen King really enjoyed what
he did with that and said, hey, I'd like to
give you stories that I'm working on to see if
you might like to make those into movies as well.
And this guy's like, yeah, of course, yes, whatever you got, dude,
I'm on board with. And so the first story that
he gave him was Kujo, but he passed. He's like,
I don't really know how I'm gonna make a movie. Yeah,
this is it's not like a good movie idea. A
Saint Bernard that terrorizes a family in a car. And
then in the next one is a car that terrorizes
a bunch of people in a town, and that one
he's like, oh, yeah, that one I can do. Geez,
why didn't you give me this one first?
Speaker 3: I know, Right, there's something else we need to mention.
In Stephen King's world, a lot of stuff happens around
this fictional town called castle Rock. Yeah, so Kujo happens
in castle Rock. The Dead Zone happens in castle Rock.
Our buddies over the thirty something podcast just dropped Needful Things.
Speaker 2: Needful Things, yeah.
Speaker 3: Which is actually kind of the death of castle Rock.
Speaker 2: Right until they came out with the Castle Rock series.
It's true. I don't know that that revived it or not,
though I think that was a failed attempt at CPR.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so there are characters in Kujo that appear
in the Dead Zone and vice versa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of fun. So the house that we're
talking about, I mean, the house, it's kind of interesting
because you know, you know that this even if you
have just a small amount of information about this movie,
you know it involves a woman and her son being
terrorized by a dog in a car, right right, that
doesn't even start until forty five minutes into the movie, like,
and the movie's only in an hour and a half long.
You're halfway through before they show up, which is good
because it was a long process anyway. But the house
that they go to is called the Camber House because
that's the mechanics name is Camber. She doesn't know when
she gets there that he's already been killed by a
kujo as well as his friend. But he's a big
turd anyway, so you don't really mind him dying. But
the Camber House was an actual house that they found
and they used, but it had a history behind It
was an old farmhouse and the son of the family
that owned it actually hung himself in the tree that
you see in the movie What Yes, What. And so
one day, the crew, having no idea about this story,
just as a joke, they had these bodies that they
have for special effects, and so just as a joke,
they decide to hang one of the bodies off of
the tree, having no idea about this story. And the
producers show up and they know the story, and they're like,
are you guys out of your mind? Like they reamed
them up and down and then Danny Pitturo's mother comes
over and talks to the producer and she's like, I'm sorry,
did you say that there was a teenager that killed
himself with this place? And he's like yeah, and she says, well,
I don't know if you know, but I'm really into clairvoyance,
and I've been tapping into a spirit that is a
teenage boy the whole time that we've been here, Like,
I feel like he might be haunting the house.
Speaker 3: Okay, Danny Bina's mom is Johnny Smith.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: How about that she's got a little bit of the shine.
Speaker 2: She's got the shine that is cool? Right? That makes
that I mean that makes it even more creepy. Yeah, yeah, awesome.
Adi guess what.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm doing a Fraser podcast even though you wouldn't
do it with me.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. It's a terrible idea back before they reboot
the entire series. Now it's not such a bad idea, Okay,
I know.
Speaker 3: So our buddy Jeff Johnson is joining me. We're recapping
the new Fraser series on Paramount Plus. If you like
Fraser can talk about the old Fraser. We're talking about
the new Fraser show. Come check over there.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if everybody knows, but Jason
is the guy who came up with a brilliant name
for our podcast of surely you can't be serious. Thank you.
And the name of this podcast is also brilliant. It's
called Crane Scrutiny. Could not pick a better title. Thank you.
Speaker 3: That's very good. Jeff actually came up with that, So.
Speaker 2: Good job, Jeff. Yep, we're gonna have fun.
Speaker 3: Check us out the Crane Scrutiny covering the new TV show.
Speaker 2: On I've heard your first episode covering the first two episodes,
and I loved every second of it. Thanks Bunny. Yeah, awesome. Okay,
so cars are obviously heavily involved in Christine. But this car,
this Pento car that she has, this this piece of
by the way, Dee Wallace was like, if I am
never around another Pinto as long as I live, it
will be too soon. Hey, it bears rementioning.
Speaker 3: You sent me a text when we were working on
part one. The car that the dad drives is like
one hundred and ten thousand dollars Jag. The car that
the mom gets, you know, you get the haul around
Tad and.
Speaker 2: Go eighty five hundred poo. Yes. So just like with Christine,
they had to have several different vehicles they used in
this because they're filming inside of the car and then
obviously lots of damage happens to the car over the
course of the terrorization that's going on. But there's a
fantastic scene. I say fantastic. It's it's very interesting. It
made me a little naucious watching it. But there's a
point where you, as the audience, the camera is looking
at Dee Wallace in the driver's seat, and then it
spins around and you see Danny back in the in
the back, and then it spins around again to her
and I'm like, how they have room to put a
whole kit? Well, they drilled a hole through the ceiling
of the car, lowered the camera down in there, and
it's literally spinning the camera around and around. Lots of
crazy work, really cool shot.
Speaker 3: Yond pont Yeah, I heard Danny Pintaro talking about how
they're like, were you scared, you know, were you scared
of the dog? Were you scared of this? And you're
making an R rated movie and it's a horror movie.
He's like, no, No, I was fascinated, like the whole time.
He's like, I was captivated by the fact that somebody's
job was to recreate doggie prints on the window.
Speaker 2: Well, somebody's job was to be the dog. Sometimes it's right,
So they would have, you know, they have this really
memorable scene where the dog is running towards the car
and head butts the side of the car and like
shakes the whole car when he hit butts the car
right right. So the way they did that was one
of the cars with the doors removed, and so they
would have the trainer on one side of the car
with the dog toy, and then the dog on the
other side of the car, and the dog would run
as fast as he could to go through the car
in the open doors to get his toy. Well, so
then they cut the scene so that just before you
see the dog about to hit the car, then they
cut to the guy in the dog suit or guy
in the docks h smashing his head again, smashing his
head against the car door.
Speaker 3: The guy in the dog suit, luckily we don't get
a good glimpse of him because I saw him dressed
up and we talked about the picture with him and
Dee Wallace doing the high kick. He looks like he's
out of banana splits or you know, checking cheese.
Speaker 2: It doesn't look realistic at all. But there was no
point watching the movie that I was like, oh, there's
the guy in the cost They did a very ad.
That guy's name, by the way, Gary Morgan. Just in
case you want to know, he appeared in Pete's Dragon
as well. Just Pet's Dragon. Okay, okay, I got a
question for you, man, what is your favorite scene of Cuja?
Speaker 3: My favorite scene of Kujo, and I don't want to
give it away, it's when the monster comes back to
life and is smashes through the window. The first time
I saw it, I jumped out of my chair and
I was a little kid, and so that really blew
me away. And I didn't quite know the cinematic rules
of well, a good bad guy is never really dead, right.
Speaker 2: So you sent me a thing that Charles Bernstein, the
composer in this movie, that he had said He's like,
in this movie, the dog is killed by not one bat,
but two. The bat that bites him and then her
swinging the bat, right, yeah. And then I was like, well, yeah,
but except that he's not that's right. He's actually killed
by And then I sent you a picture of a
bat for four magnum. Three bats. Took three bats to
take Kujo down. You know, it's funny.
Speaker 3: I was talking to our good friend Jeff Johnson and uh,
we were talking about d Wallace swinging a baseball bat,
and he said, yeah, she she went to the Wendy
Torrance School of hitting.
Speaker 2: Wendy Torrance from the shining. That's right, just kind of
go away bag swinging the bat like the ancient Egyptians
would swing a grass fan. Yes, not exactly, Babe, Ruth. No, no, okay.
So my favorite scene for Kujo is it's a great
scare technique and Lewis Teg talked about it, but I
noticed it when he first did it. He gives you
this illusion because d Wallace is sitting there. She's got
her leg hanging out the door. She's trying to do
something with Danny. We haven't been fully attacked yet, but
she's got her car door open and her leg out,
Like I mean, there you go, prime grade a calf
muscle right there to fight into. And you were going
from what you believe to be the point of view
of the dog and you go right up to her
and then nothing happens, and then you're looking at her
doing something with Danny, and then all of a sudden,
the dog attacks from the opposite window. He tricks you
thinking your point of view of the dog when you're
actually just being prepped to be scared. Masterful. Yeah, a
lot of.
Speaker 3: Things in this movie were just very skillfully done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's talk about Christine. Okay, we talked about
the cars already that were used to the Pento cars,
multiple cars that they had to use on Christine. Fifteen
percent of their budget and this was not a small
budget movie. Sure, fifteen percent went to buying the cars.
Speaker 3: I saw this like they had one guy in charge
of just going around and snagging these things wherever you
could find them, you know.
Speaker 2: And they're not easy to find. We were talking about
the late seventies, and this is a fifty eight limit Fury.
You're just not going to see a whole lot of
these cars anyway, especially twenty years old fifty eight Plymouth Fury.
But by the time they were done, and they had
dressed them all up. By the time they were done,
there were only two that were left undestroyed.
Speaker 3: They were pretty liberal with the destruction of these cars,
like lay smashed the crap out of these the entire movie.
Speaker 2: Which brings me again to the question, what do you
think the best scene in this one is?
Speaker 3: It's absolutely the show me scene.
Speaker 1: Show me.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's so much is it's I told you like
this was the only one of these three movies that
I had actually seen before in my life, you know,
I think I was a teenager or whatever, But that
was the memory from watching the movie the first time,
was that scene. I don't know that he shot the
whole movie in anamorphic lens, but at that point it's
so obvious that he's got it because those lights are
just totally you got that horizontal peak on those and
they look so cool, just the lights just coming on
and that, I mean, John Carpenter drops that pered sound,
Oh my gosh. But the actual regeneration of the car,
it building itself back up, is flawless. I mean we're
talking about I mean, they made this movie in eighty three.
We're talking about limited technology and so limited that John
Carpenter wasn't even gonna do it. He wasn't going to
do it. Special effects guy said, let me give it
a shot, and they did this amazing thing where instead
of trying to push the car out to create a
special effect where they are building the car back, they
had it already built and then destroyed it and then
shot it and played it in reverse.
Speaker 3: Reverse the film. They imploded the car. Yeah, and then
they put it in reverse and it goes back to amazing.
Speaker 2: It is such a good scene. I mean, it's the
best scene in the movie.
Speaker 3: It's the best scene in the movie. And like you said,
they were not going to shoot it. John Carpenter talked
about how Arnie was going to do the show me line.
The camera was going to drift off the car and
then return and it be fixed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you would have felt cheated as an audience
member if that had no doubt. Right, do you want
to see the car fix itself? Yeah? I mean if
I can watch Bill Bixby turn into the Hulk, I
should be able, right to watch a car regenerate itself. Right,
let me see the sleeves tear. Come on me.
Speaker 3: We saw Herbie do all kinds of things. By the way,
I was thinking about that when I saw I saw
Herbie goes bananas in the theater. When the bad guys
poured like goop into the radiator and like Herbie was sick.
Speaker 2: I was distraughted. Oh sad, you love Herbie. You can't
not love Herbie. That's right. So the neighborhood that they
shot this in, does it look familiar to is it Halloween? Yeah,
same neighborhood they shot the outdoor scenes, the suburban scenes
they shot in the same neighborhood that they shot. Really,
he loves Pasadena, apparently you got it. That's cool? Right? Yeah?
I mean, and of course, like it's so hard to
find the right place to shoot. If you've found it once,
why not use it again? Right? Absolutely? I need a
very American looking suburb neighborhood, right, I happened to know one.
Let's go do it.
Speaker 3: Hey, John Ford did everything at Monument Valley. That's you know,
I found my spot. I'm good to go. By the way,
I got a little tidbit on Christine. I'm just gonna
drop right in here. The New York Times called Christine
the most foul mouthed movie of all time because they
use the F word a whole lot. Right, Yes, Well,
that little nugget quickly went to the waistside because Scarface
was released the same year, right, and.
Speaker 2: It held the record for about three seconds.
Speaker 3: That's right, and Scarface like double the amount of f bombs,
So that's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. So Alexandra Hall is brand new in this movie. Right,
it's her first real acting job. Yes, she has twin sister,
I know, right this story. Yes, So in the scenes
where they have the bulldozer and they're doing the bulldozer
scenes one day, as a joke, she brings her sister
to set. She has the hair and makeup guys dresser
just like she is, and has her go do the scene, right,
and John Carpenter is like, are you feeling okay? That's
going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like what are you all right?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: It's kind of this weirdness. And then finally Alexander Paul
comes out and she's like, have you replaced me already?
And he's like what because nobody knew that she had
a twin sister. That's fantastic. Yeah, okay, So another couple
of car thanks. Yeah. The movie that they're watching is
called Thank God It's Friday. The premise of the movie
is this guy has this car that he truly loves
and every time he takes it out, it gets damaged
in some.
Speaker 3: Way really on the at the drive in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's really cool. It's car movie. Obviously,
we've got the fifty eight Plymouth Fury. They used other
similar cars because they were so hard to find. They
never made the Plymouth Fury in this Candy Apple Red
that this one is in. Really yeah, so that scene
at the very beginning where you see it being evil
from the factory level, it does actually make sense that
it's red and everything else is not read because it's
different and they didn't make them like that. Right. It
doesn't explain it, of course, but this is a you know,
they did that scene to explain the possession of the
car since it wasn't the same as the novel. Interesting.
And then you've got you've got several key vehicles. You've
got this fifty eight Plymouth Fury. That's the star of
the show, right. You've got the cool car that John
Stockton's driving around that is a sixty eight Dodge Charger
for forty That thing was a sweet That was a
sweet ride. Now you know you're a parent.
Speaker 3: When he peels out of the driveway going like you know,
forty miles an hour backwards. I'm like, you're gonna kill
some kid.
Speaker 2: What is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: Sir?
Speaker 2: I got a brand new sixteen year old driver who
got a ticket a ticket last week for going eighty
in a fifty five. I'm going to decapitate. What are
you doing, sir? You're enough driver for this, that's right.
Obviously you've got the very memorable bulldozer. I mean he
is the bulldozer becomes the hero of the movie. Does Yeah,
I mean that's it's kind of funny because John Carpenter
talked about that scene almost being like a rape scene,
like he's he's mounting the car. Yeah, yeah, it's domination.
He had to get trained to drive it. But I mean,
what a cool I mean, how cool would it? I mean,
not quite as cool as Tom Cruise learning how to
fly planes and stuff, but it would be cool to like, Okay,
we need you to learn how to drive a bulldozer
for the scena. Okay, yeah, it sounds awesome.
Speaker 3: Good And in fact, they they weren't intending to tread
all the way over the car. They thought it might
be a little dangerous, and one of the guys was like, well,
why should you just let me try it and it's
cool because it's very satisfying smash.
Speaker 2: I could remember when I very first moved to Norman.
I had this little piece of crap that would just
break down all of the time. And I broke down
right as I got into Norman, and this cop came
over and I was like, if I could just get
it over the gas station, He's like, I can call
you a tow truck. I'm like, dude, I just moved
here and I'm in college. Six dollars I can't afford
to say total, and so this I'm telling this to
this cop and he kind of looks side to side
and he's like, well, I could push you. Yeah. I
was like, let's go for buddy, just that little joy
of like I get to use the hard power tools
on my car. Okay, one last car. Yeah, this one's
going to escape most people's attentions. Harry Harry Dean Stanton. Yeah, detective, Okay, yeah, yeah,
he's driving a standard police issue vehicle. Do you know
what it was? No, a Plymouth fury Are you serious?
I am serious. It was in nineteen seventy eight instead
of nineteen fifty eight, but his he was driving at
Plymouth Fury as well. Interesting, very good. Okay. By the way,
another tidbit for you. Since this time, Stephen King has
written two characters in one story that were somewhat based
on Harry Dean Stanton. Story was The Green Mile, and
the characters were Harry Terwilliger and Dean Stanton. Of course, yeah,
that's right. And then in the movie The Green Mile,
Harry Dean Stanton is actually in it. He's old too too. Yep,
that's correct, doing all the stuff, doing the dry there
the dress rehearsal right, yep, yeah, yeah, that's right. Good one.
You got some stuff on the music I do. I
want to hear it. I do. We're talking Christine music.
Christine music.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so we know that the composer of
Christine was John Carpenter. I mean, John Carpenter does all
of his own type of stuff. He did it with
this other guy named Alan Holworth. But I want to
talk about the rock and roll music used in Christine.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Once I started looking into this, I was like, d
have you looked into this? You're like no, I'm like,
don't do it right, Because once I started looking at this,
I'm like, did Carpenter only choose people who had horrible
deaths to do the soundtrack of this.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: So other than we know Bad to the Bone is used.
Speaker 2: At the beginning of this movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was like one of the first times
that they used Bad to the Bone. Now we know
since then it's been used at jillion times in one
hundred thousand different movies, and it's kind of lost its luster.
Speaker 2: But this was like the first time where they used it.
This was that was the suggestion of Bill Phillips, by
the way, the writer, the screenwriter. Okay, yeah, he not
only suggested it because when he went in to push it,
the producers had not heard the song before, like it's
a new song in nineteen eighty three, yeah, and so
they hadn't heard it. And so Bill Phillips is like,
I literally had to go I think I heard of
that one. Okay.
Speaker 3: So you have George Thorogood and the Destroyers. They have
Bad to the Bone. You've got Buddy Holly and the Crickets,
and they have a song called not Fade Away. Of course,
Buddy Holly was killed in the plane crash along with
Richie Allens, the Big Bopper. You can see it if
you watch the movie Lobamba.
Speaker 2: Right the day the music died. That's it. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: Then you have a song called Pledging My Love by
Johnny Ace.
Speaker 2: Now these guys are not huge guys, mainly because they
died young. Okay. Now, Johnny Ace was known to play
with guns. Okay, okay, there's an.
Speaker 3: Urban legend out there that he shot himself playing Russian Roulette.
Member of his band said, no, that's not true at all.
Speaker 2: Here's what happened.
Speaker 3: He's flashing the gun around and they're like, dude, put
that away, you're gonna shoot somebody. He's like, it's not loaded.
Look boom oh cub boom, put it to his forehead
and pulled the trigger. Oh okay Johnny Ace, Okay.
Speaker 2: Not so much now.
Speaker 3: Then then you've got a song by Robert and Johnny
called We Belong Together. Okay, nothing major there, Okay. Then
you got a song by Little Richard called keep a Knocking. Right.
Speaker 2: That's a famous song, right and key moment because it's
the he locks the doors and everybody's trying to get
out or in and can't. That's right.
Speaker 3: So Little Richard one of the major players in rock
and roll history, right, a huge guy architect of rock
and roll. Yeah, when he started out was an evangelical
Christian teetotaler. Flashed forward a few years, and he's got
heroin and cocaine and alcohol problems and sexual deviancy like
voyeurism and pooking and group sex and all this weird stuff. Okay,
it was the seventies, it was a crazy time. Okay,
But he develops this intense drug habit. Right, Hey, put
that one on pause. Let's move on to the next
song by a guy named Larry Williams. Yeah, he sings
a song called Bonnie Maroney.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3: He and Little Richard are good buddies. Okay, they're also
drug buddies. Like they love each other like good friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, turns out that Little Richard owed Larry Williams some
money for drugs, and Larry Williams showed up one day
with a gun, was going to kill Little Richard over
drug money. Now, he didn't do anything, and it didn't
kill him. That moment actually pushed Little Richard to get
out of drugs, get back to religion.
Speaker 2: I could do it.
Speaker 3: Somebody waving a gun in your face is going to
get your attention. Yeah, Okay, all right, then you've got
another song by Danny and the Juniors. This song is
called rock and roll is Here to Stay? Famous song?
Right Danny of Danny and the Juniors On April second,
nineteen eighty three, about the time filming started for this movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he checked.
Speaker 3: Himself into a hotel room in Courtsville, Arizona and committed suicide.
Speaker 2: Whoa wow, death death death, Wow? How about that? That
is crazy.
Speaker 3: I will say that the rock music used in this
movie is it's powerful and it's almost creepy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean it's every single time a song is playing,
you go, what are they saying? How does it plight
to the scene and you go, ah, yes, that's what
I see, Like I hear you knocking, but you can't
come in part yes, exactly. And it's like the voice
of Christine exactly. Yeah. She plays it as though she's
speaking speaking to you, yes, or singing as the case maybe.
Now speaking of music, jumping back over to the dead zone,
the ice is gonna break. This is I think the
first movie, if not the first movie, it's one of
the only movies that David Cronenberg did not work with
Howard Shore. Howard chores normally the guy that does the
music for David Cronenberg. Yes, but at this one, it's
the guy that we've talked about multiple times. Now, Michael
came in another big hitter. He would compose this music
on his piano in his apartment at home, and eventually
one of the neighbors came and knocked on his door
and said, yeah, could you stop playing the music because
you're giving my entire family nightmares. It's it's creepy. It's
like dark overtones, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Now Michael Caman has done Pink Floyd The Wall, and
he worked with Pink Floyd on that. He did Life
Force with Matilda. May have ever seen that Life Force?
You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: I have not. He did Leave the Weapon and Die
Hard yep. He did Last Action Hero.
Speaker 3: And then Quick Throw Out to a nineteen eighty one
classic starring Oliver Reed. He did Venom, Oh, Black Mambas,
Breakout and Are on the Loose, the personal favorite of mine.
Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, one quick.
Speaker 3: Note that I forgot to mention, Uh huh. I think
they cut it out at the end of the movie.
But George Thoroughgood shows up at the end of Christine
as one of the guys who's smashing the car.
Speaker 2: Yes, he did. He was in a scene with Bill Phillips.
They were the Junkyard workers. Bill Phillips said the scene
was so bad that they had to cut it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like, I don't know how you have a three
second scene that the acting is that bad, But he
said it was. I should never be an actor. It
was terrible. That's funny. Bill Phillips, the screenwriter for Christine. Yes,
so tidbit on the Dead Zone. The Old Mom actress's
name is Jackie Burrows. Okay, okay. She plays Vera Smith,
Johnny Smith's mom. Yes, right, Yes, she was only four
years older than Christopher Walking. Wow, she looks like the
crip keeper. No, I'm like what and I looked it up.
She was in her early forties when she made the shoes.
She was born in nineteen thirty nine, which means she
was what forty four when this movie came out. She
looked like she was in her late sixties.
Speaker 3: You know that is insane. I will tell you something
from the novel, just that character, Johnny Smith's mom is
a crazy religious person.
Speaker 2: She's a zealot, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: One of the things that I remember her character did
in the novel. They didn't really get into it a
whole lot in the movie. I remember she like moved
to like the like the Antarctic because she thought that
Jesus was going to return there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was a weird scene. It's been a long time
since I read it. But she would do a lot
of weird things in the book.
Speaker 2: In the original script, the time between when he has
the accident and when he wakes up from the coma
instead of being instantaneous it is. In the movie, they
did a montage like where you see Sarah, you know,
standing by him and then eventually losing interest in leaving
and the dad kind of consoling her and all of that.
But through that whole montage scene, Mom is praying, like
in different places, but Mom is always praying. She loves
her son. Speaking about moms who love their son. Yeah,
you have the also the Frank Dodd scene.
Speaker 3: That's the one I thought you were getting ready to
talk about that.
Speaker 2: I did sit to you because I'm just watching the movie,
you know, I've I've got it on that I've got
on the big screen and I'm watching the scene where
she gets shot goes by, and I'm like, oh no,
I got to rewind that one. I had to take
a picture. That's the worst squib explosion I have ever
seen the movie. It looks like you remember the school
boxes we used to have with our kids, Like it's
that big in her sweater. Yeah, this is giant squib
blowing up when she's supposed to get shot. And I
did a freeze frame and took a picture for you.
It turns out there were other squib problems in this one.
Apparently when they did the World War two scene, the
flashback World War two scene, Yeah, like they had a
swib on one of the soldiers go off too soon
and like he was severely burned on his legs and
growing because of this squib accident and so.
Speaker 3: And then they cut it from the movie. You know
that squib that you sent me. I want to talk
about that scene for a moment, because in that movie
when they you know, Johnny's like Dodd's the killer and
Bannerman can't find DoD and they're like, where's DoD?
Speaker 2: God, where are you get up here? Not suspicious at all,
slowly walking backwards. Yeah, he just took you just took
off in your car I watched him walk backwards the
whole way, saw him get in your car and look
around like he'd killed a man. Right, what the heck? What?
Speaker 3: It's not a good plan. But when they show up
to arrest him, it's like they're entering a house of
horse right. Yeah, you got the crazy mom who's get
out here, get out here. And Johnny, I remember when
he touches her, He's like, you knew, you knew the
whole time. The first time I saw that, I was
repulsed by that, you know, and scared. And then you're
wandering around this house looking for a serial killer. And
I'm telling you what Dodd's suicide in the movie it's
one of the most grotesque things, just mentally that I
think about, because he props those scissors up.
Speaker 2: And he's going to put it in his mouth, yep,
in his mouth and up his nose. I kind of gun, dude, Yeah,
I mean really, dude, make this fast.
Speaker 3: You got a three fifty seven or a pair of
you know, stylus scissors.
Speaker 2: Right, If that was me, I'd be like measuring the scissors,
like is this really going to go all the way?
Or am I just going to give myself a severe nose. Please,
it's at the top of my mouth.
Speaker 3: I think in the book he severs his own jugular.
Speaker 2: Like okay, well that's an interesting way to do it
as well. Yeah. So the scene that leads up to
that scene is the gazebo scene, right, yeah, So they
filmed this movie in Niagara. The gazebo did not exist.
They built it, and the people in Niagara were like,
we don't want you coming to cool. Yeah we like it. No,
they first they didn't want it. They were like, no,
this is we don't want you to mess up our
you know, nice little city square with this movie prop.
But then they built it so well that they're like, oh,
that's actually kind of nice. He's still there, people take
wedding pictures. I know to this day. I would love
to visit it. Yeah, it's really cool.
Speaker 3: And that tunnel where Johnny's feeling the cigarette wrappers and
stuff like that, it's there as well.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah. Two more things, okay. Number one,
whenever he was about to have a moment or whenever
he was dealing with, you know, visions that he was having,
Christopher Walking would like jump in twitch a little bit.
So cool. David Cronenberg had a three P fifty seven
magnum that he would randomly fire, and that is what
caused Christopher Walking to jump like that legit wardrobe Chris
Peters pants. Again.
Speaker 3: I love the fact that the impulses or visions that
he gets is like violent attacks, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like killing him, like it's killing him. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: And in the in the novel, these visions actually are
killing him so much so that he gets a brain
tumor and he can bear stand up to hold the
gun when he's like trying to assassinate Greg Stilson.
Speaker 2: So did we talk about the different meanings of the
Dead Zone from the book to the movie to the
TV series that came out with Anthony Michael Holland I
don't think we differentiated. Yeah, okay, So in the book,
the Dead Zone is it's like this part of his
brain that has gone dead from the accident he had
when he was a kid. His brain has had to
rewire around it, and it's this rewiring that has given
him the clairvoyance. Right in the movie, the way it's
described is when he's talking to the doctor and it's
like this idea that he can change the future that
he sees, like he talks about the hockey incident, right,
he says, you know, there's the possibility to change the future,
which is of course very important for the climax of
the movie. And so he's like, it's that area of
possibility of change, and that's what the dead zone is
in the series. There are things that he can't see,
and that's the dead zone in the series. Is that
the invisible part that he can can't quite get to?
Did you watch the series?
Speaker 3: I watched the first couple of seasons of the series.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really good for a while.
Speaker 3: I know that they like they ended season six on
a major cliffhanger, and then season seven never happened. So
it's one of those where kind of a bum deal.
Speaker 2: So, oh, it's time to reboot it. Anthony Michael is
still around, no man, I know he was just in
another fifteen year coma. There you go, right, Johnny you're back.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: By the way, Johnny Smith terrible name for character.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, I think Stephen can get that on purpose
because he wanted it to feel like anybody, like every man.
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about the dolls in Kujo. You
know that he's got a stuffed Saint Bernard. Yes, in
the Dead Zone, You've got this part where he's in
the little girl's room having a vision of herbe trapped
in the fire, right, huh so number one, he's all sweaty, right,
except it's not sweat. That was the flame retardant that
they put on him, but it looked like sweat. It
was really effective because I mean, if you were surrounded
by fire, would be sweating, no doubt. And not only
would it be hot, but you'd be scared. That's true.
But but they had to film it again because in
the in the scene there is a stuffed et doll
and this is not a Universal movie and Et is
And when Universal caught win, they're like, we will sue
your pants off. Okay, let's go back and shoot the
buildings on fire scene.
Speaker 3: Hey Chris, remember that we had to cover you with
flame retardants and you had it laying in bed and
set it on fire. We got to do that again.
By the way, just a little tidbit on Christine Keith
Gordon talked about the drive in scene except for three
days he had to make out with Alexandra Paul. Oh yeah, yeah,
and he's like, I didn't want to, but somebody had
to do it, and I had to step up for
the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually heard, and this is a this is
a baller move right here. He knew that they had
to kiss on camera, and so he says, I don't
really want our first kiss to be awkward on camera.
Do you think we should kiss beforehand? Let's practice? And
she went for you. She's nineteen, Okay, brilliant. I'm an
actor of it.
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, it's a lot better if you
practice first.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: One of the big things I want to talk about
before we move on to final judgment, Yeah, is there
is a major difference between the Kujo book and the
Kujo movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Spoiler alert, spoiler alert, big, big, big spoiler alert
for well both of them. Early Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And in fact, Stephen King said, if there's one
book in this world that I would rewrite.
Speaker 2: It's Kujo, at least the ending.
Speaker 3: So in the end, Tad, the little boy, dies of
dehydration in the novel.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: In the novel, at the end of the novel, when
Vics finally shows up, Tad's dead.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then there's this whole epilogue.
Speaker 3: Where Donna has to go to the hospital, and you know,
the Cambers are putting their life back together after their
her husband was killed and Tad's dead and Donna has
rabies and it is very somber ending, a very sad
and like heart wrenching. Yeah, so I think, and Stephen
King even thinks that stroke of genius let Tad live
at the end.
Speaker 2: Of the movie, for sure, for sure. Absolutely what was
not a stroke of genius was that. Then thirty seconds
later they ended a freeze frame. Yeah, you didn't like
that at all? What is that?
Speaker 1: What? Like?
Speaker 2: I mean, she comes out, they've seen each of the
husband has finally arrived, Vic is back, right, finally arrived.
She's there with the boy in her arms. She's just
killed the dog and she hands him the body of
their still barely living boy and freeze what freeze roll credits?
See And I watched I watched the making of on
this and I heard Lewis Tige talk about what they're
going to do the end and he's like, when we
just decided to do a freeze frame and gave no
further explanation because there's not one. Why You've got this
entirely emotional release And oh my gosh, and that comes
back when the dog busts through the window and then
you're like, oh, the family is reunited.
Speaker 3: Cut, I know, right, Freeze nothing else that's crazy. A
hug and a kiss would be okay, A punch in
his face, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That would have been great. That would have been a
great ending, you son of a Freeze frame on her
socking him in the jaw like maryon socks Indiana Jones,
And that would have been perfect. That's right, perfect ending.
Rewrite it.
Speaker 3: That's hilarious, all right, d So is it time to
move to final judgment between these three?
Speaker 2: Uh? It is? Are we going to talk about your
favorite films first?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do that on the on the pit stop
on the way to final judgment. Yeah, let's discuss our
three favorite Stephen King film adaptations.
Speaker 2: Okay, mine is number one. Is easy because it's my
favorite movie of all time. It's The Shoshank Redemption. Okay,
based on Rita Hayworth and The Shoshank Redemption from different seasons.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: My the second one is also from different seasons. It's
stand by Me, which is based on the Body. Yes,
this short story of the Body right right, Both of
them fantastic I've read them both, loved the written work,
love the movies. Number three is much longer, both book
and movie. Okay, before I get there, I'm gonna do
a quick honorable mention. Okay, Sure. The first Stephen King
book I read was it. As you can tell from
my picks and from our talk and our Halloween episodes,
I am not a scary movie guy. When the new
movie came out just recently, like twenty seventeen, I think
is when it came out, so, you know, five years ago.
But I was like, I gonna see it. I don't
watch scary movies. I've read the book. The book's fantastic.
I don't need to see the movie. But my daughter,
who was at that point, I guess fifteen or so herself,
she was like, do you want to go see this
movie because she had she started watching scary movies at
that point. Sure. I was like, She's like, I'd love
it if you came and watched it with me. And
I look at it and it's got I mean, it's
been out for a while and it's got over an
eight on IMDb. It was like an eight point one
or eight point two. It is like, sure, oh dang,
this is actually a good movie. This isn't just a
scary movie. This is a good And you look at
people who like scary movies and they would call this
a baby scary movie, Like, this is not a scary movie.
But I was scared crapless the whole time, like my
mouth was open. But it's so wonderfully done it. They
found that style like stand By Me, where they're taking
you back and you feel like you've gone back to
the fifties, but really you've gone back to the eighties,
and they do it perfectly in that movie. So that's
my honorable mention. Okay, sure. And then my number three,
number three is eleven twenty two to sixty three. Loved
the book from beginning to end, loved it, and James
Franco did a fantastic job with the series. Yeah I
loved it. Yep, very good. Okay.
Speaker 3: So, because I suspected that our three were gonna be
so similar, yeah, I'm gonna give you a different three.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So because my number one is Shawshank, my number two
is stand by Me, My number mine personal number three
is The Green Mile, Okay, the Tom Hanks movie Mile.
Just I just love the sort of hope and emotional
pull of that movie. It's funny that of my top
three Stephen King movies, none are scary, like none or
horror movies, right, you know. But from there, the next
is the Stand of the miniseries, the TV mini series Okay, wow, yeah,
and it's cheesy and it's not acted well, but it
was such a must see television event for me in
ninety four. I watched it like my college buddies. We
we set the VCR and we were in front of
the TV and.
Speaker 2: That was a big deal to us. And then the
Dead Zone.
Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite Stephen King film adaptations.
Speaker 2: It's a great one. Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna throw in I've got a couple of
h just tipped your judgment, by the way.
Speaker 2: I know I did. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I've got my top three Stephen King books. Okay, okay,
So I've read twenty or thirty Stephen King books.
Speaker 2: I think you've read what two or three?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, three maybe okay, mostly short stories, two full books
it and eleven twenty two sixty three.
Speaker 3: All right, So my top three Stephen King books are
number three, Misery. I'm one of these people who hates
the movie, like, I do not like the movie really really,
because I'm so well, I was so mesmerized by the book,
uh huh, and she was so horrific in the book.
Speaker 2: William Goldman is the one who wrote the screenplay for
the movie. And spoiler alert if you haven't read the
book or if you haven't seen the movie, but if
you have seen the movie, you know the hobbling scene.
It's very memorable. Sure in the book, she cuts off
his feet with a blowtorch. Am I right?
Speaker 3: She uses an axe to remove his foot, then she
cauterizes his leg to stop the bleeding.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, with a blowtorch. William Goldman when they came
to him and said, hey, we want to change this
where we don't want her to chop off the legs
and we don't want to do the blow porch, He's like,
are you crazy? This is the most memorable part of
the book. It is a brilliant scene. Are you crazy?
He said? After he saw the movie, he realized he
was wrong. It'd have been too much. It had been
too much for a movie.
Speaker 3: Everybody else loves the movie because of that scene, and
I'm like, that's not harsh.
Speaker 1: Enough.
Speaker 3: The book was she also takes his thumb off like
she she turkey knives' his thumb off. So number three
book Misery, Number two, The Stand. I absolutely love The
Stands epics thousand pages and it's good versus evil and
it's awesome.
Speaker 2: In this process, I've listened to several Stephen King interviews,
usually on the David Lettermanzio. Yeah, but he's in one
of the interviews. He was talking about The Stand and
how he had he had built this story like he
doesn't know where it's going to go by the way
you talk. We talked about the difference in the end
on Kujo. People were mad at him because the little
boy died, right, and his response was, I'm not God.
I didn't want him to die either. It's just the
way that the story happened, you know, and so and
so it's it makes sense that he would change, you know,
if he could choose, he would go back and change it.
But he doesn't. He doesn't have the end in mind
when he starts writing a book.
Speaker 3: It's it's fascinating how he writes.
Speaker 2: And so with the Stand, he had gotten himself in
the position where he had developed all of these characters
and he's halfway. I mean he's hundreds of pages into
the book, and he's like, how am I going to
resolve all of these stories? And he's just on a
walk on a fall day. I just went for a walk.
And at some point he was like, could drop a
bomb on him? Yep, I could drop a bomb on him. Yeah,
I'll drop a bomb on him. And that was his solution.
I'm just going to just suddenly kill half of the characters.
It's such a climax. I love it.
Speaker 3: And then finally, my number one book, my number one
Stephen King book of all time is eleven twenty two
sixty three. Yeah, it's great, absolutely awesome.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 3: What would you do if you could prevent the assassination
of John F.
Speaker 2: Kennedy or alter the future? I mean anything, or at
this point, get Hamburger for only a dollar ninety five?
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: Such besides high or low, it's up to you, all right.
Just a quick little thing, because I've read a lot
of his short stories.
Speaker 2: Yep. My three favorite short stories.
Speaker 3: Number three Dolan's Cadillac, about a guy who seeks revenge
against a mobster and he buries him alive.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a really cool story. Yeah. Then you have
The Jaunt.
Speaker 3: It's about like it's like the fly where you molecularly
transport to like instantaneously. It's like instead of flying airplane
across the country, you just reappear through these little teleportation pods.
But if you're awake, it's eternal. If you're so, they
put you to sleep in order to transmit, and it
happens instantaneously, but if you are awake, that transmission takes.
Speaker 2: Millions of years. Huh.
Speaker 3: It is a mind bending story.
Speaker 2: Sound called the Jaunt, the Jount. What were the books
that these two were in.
Speaker 3: Uh. Dolan's Cadillac was in Nightmares and Dreamscapes. The John
is in Skeleton Crew okay. And then my number one
is called Survivor Type and it's about this guy who's
transporting like morphine and he's a surgeon and he's been
blacklisted as a doctor and he crash lands on this
island and so it's him by himself. He's got no food,
but he's got a ship full of morphine and he
breaks his ankle, so he has to surgically remove his ankle. Well,
he doesn't have any foods. Guess what he eats his ankle, Yeah,
and then he goes from there. Okay, so now survivor type.
You've teased him up nicely. I want to read all
three of them. That's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Okay, are we to final judgment?
To final judgment? Well, you've tipped your hand already. I
know what you're picking as your number one? Sure, right,
and so I'm going to go ahead and let you
tell me what number two. I mean, give me your
final judgment and then I'll reveal mine to you. Okay.
Speaker 3: So I've got a big nostalgic pull to Kjo, but
I think it's the third best movie out of these three.
Speaker 2: It didn't age quite as well. I wasn't. I didn't
get the.
Speaker 3: Same thrill from it when I first watched it. Skillfully
made storytelling is good. The Little Kid drove me insane.
So I'm writing that number three. Number two is Christine obviously,
and then number one.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: I think The Dead Zone is a sort of psychic
supernatural masterpiece.
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, it's one of David cronenberg best movies.
My turn. Yeah, okay, well I won't I won't to
draw this out Okay. I had seen one of these
movies before we decided to do this series, and that
was Christine. I had wanted to see The Dead Zone.
I had not wanted to see Kujo because I had
the same thought. I'm like, how can a Saint Bernard
be scary? Right? And even as I watched it, I
was texting you like, how did they not change the dog?
I mean, at the very least, how did how do
they not? I mean, a dog terrorizing a woman and
her child doesn't seem like the basis for an entire
movie for me anyway, But that dog being a big, lovable,
fuzzy dog didn't make any sense, and so I saved
it for last. It was hard for me to make
myself watched it, but I'm glad that I did. For
what it was story wise, they actually did a very
good job with it. Sure, I was scared, I'm not scared,
but I was surprised at moments. You know, they had
good scare moments, good jump schemes. Acting I thought was phenomenal. Yes,
the little kid's annoying because he's acting like any little
kid in this situation. Would's true. He did a fantastic
job in his performance, and I thought every other actor
did a great job. I thought that the again for
what it was filmed, well, it was directed well, even
the dialogue was pretty good. It wasn't great, but it
was pretty good, and so I was pleased. But it's
still number three for me. Okay. I was excited to
watch Christine again. I enjoyed it the first time I
saw it. I enjoyed it even more this time. And
then I was happy to watch the Dead Zone, which
I hadn't seen, and it, just like you, isn't the
number one pick for me? So same, same exact layout.
Kujo's the third best, but better than I thought it
was going to be. Christine is still great and Dead
Zone wowed me more than the other two by far. Wow. Fantastic, Yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 3: So we totally aligned on these, all three of these
movies turning forty years old, and we nailed.
Speaker 2: It just in time for the Great Pumpkins. Well great, Well,
we want to hear.
Speaker 3: From you, what do you rank these three movies and
where do you rank the top three Stephen King adaptations.
Speaker 2: We'd love to hear that from me as well. Absolutely, guys,
we appreciate you so much coming in and listening to
us again and again, week after week. We can't tell
you how much we appreciate your support. Thank you so
much for listening. We promise to keep on doing this
as long as you guys keep on listening.
Speaker 3: All right, everybody, come back next week. Dee and I
are going to tackle one of the biggest movies of
nineteen seventy.
Speaker 2: Eight, forty five years old this year, that's right, and
it's still the word. What's the word? Greece? Is the word?
Grease is the word? Is the word? It's the word.
Speaker 3: So we're actually going to compare movie to soundtrack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little different, taking, you know, a little
bit different on this one. It'll be fun though.
Speaker 3: We couldn't get anything to match up perfectly, so we thought,
well is turn it against itself exactly?
Speaker 2: I like it. Thanks guys, Thanks guys, See you next
week