Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan ray I WBZ constance.
Speaker 2: Me video was about twenty four hours actually twenty five
Speaker 2: hours ago in Washington, DC, where there was a horrific
Speaker 2: I guess you can only call it an assassination, a
Speaker 2: double assassination of two young people. You're Ron Leshinsky and
Speaker 2: Sarah Milgram. Both of them worked. They were employees at
Speaker 2: the Embassy of the Nation of Israel in Washington. Joining
Speaker 2: me on the phone right now is the Consul General
Speaker 2: of the State of Israel to New England, Consul General
Speaker 2: Benny Sharoni. Consul General SHARONI, welcome back to Nightside. I'm
Speaker 2: so sad to talk with you about this issue on
Speaker 2: this night, but I'm very glad that you're here because
Speaker 2: I think it needs to be explained to people what
Speaker 2: is going on, not only in this country but around
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 3: How are you this evening, Well, good evening, Dan, and
Speaker 3: good evening to all of our listeners tonight. Thank you
Speaker 3: for having me once again the show. I really appreciate
Speaker 3: the opportunity, and it is regrettable to be that we
Speaker 3: get to speak tonight in such a horrible circumstances. You know,
Speaker 3: I was hoping that our next conversation online will be
Speaker 3: about the Celtics and about how the Red Socks are,
Speaker 3: but fortunately we have to postpone that to another.
Speaker 2: Yes, the thing that is shocking to me is the
Speaker 2: way this happened. This guy apparently traveled from Chicago with
Speaker 2: a nine millimeter pistol, according to the reports that I've read,
Speaker 2: and I know a lot of the reporting on something
Speaker 2: like this, particularly the first draft of the reporting could
Speaker 2: be incorrect, but he apparently had been pacing outside the
Speaker 2: Capital Jewish Museum, which is I guess across the street
Speaker 2: from fb I headquarters. So it's it's it's in a
Speaker 2: very respectable part of Washington, d C. And he was
Speaker 2: waiting there and uh, he approached I guess. It was
Speaker 2: four people, two of whom were, as I mentioned, a
Speaker 2: young man, thirty year old your own Lishinsky who grew
Speaker 2: up in Israel in Germany, who was there with his
Speaker 2: a young woman who he planned to propose to. These
Speaker 2: two young diplomats were at a reception where the American
Speaker 2: Jewish Committee was hosting young diplomats, and your own Lishyinsky
Speaker 2: and Sarah Milgram were killed. And I saw one report
Speaker 2: tonight which which which really bothered me. I think it
Speaker 2: was on ABC News, might have been on NBC. I
Speaker 2: was trying to watch them both both that this coward
Speaker 2: shot these people in the back, very similar to what
Speaker 2: happened in New York City. To the insurance executive, this
Speaker 2: is in Washington, d C. The capital of the United States.
Speaker 2: And then he was yelling, you know, free, free Palestine.
Speaker 2: He made it very clear what his motive was, and
Speaker 2: he's now been charged with terrorism and first degree murder.
Speaker 2: Two counts of first degree murder and terrorism. There's really
Speaker 2: no question I can think of Otherton. Then to talk
Speaker 2: to you, you worked in that embassy in Washington and
Speaker 2: you worked in the same department as these two young
Speaker 2: people several years ago.
Speaker 3: That's true. That's true. Well, I'll say that the last
Speaker 3: twenty four hours since we learned about the attacking d C,
Speaker 3: we're extremely painful, a lot of frustration. These believed that
Speaker 3: such a thing can actually happen in the nation's capital.
Speaker 3: It is very sad. They're very sad. They one of
Speaker 3: the seller's days, the ironment or sinside journey, is really
Speaker 3: for the service. Losing two young colleagues who just came
Speaker 3: out of a young diplomat's reception. This is this is unimaginable,
Speaker 3: really unimaginable. I used to work in our NBSS in Washington,
Speaker 3: d C. I remember arriving there in twenty sixteen. I
Speaker 3: know quite well the area will be even happened. You're
Speaker 3: absolutely correct. This is an organized and dignified part of
Speaker 3: the city. And the yarn who was killed yesterday, he
Speaker 3: used to work as a research assistant for our senior
Speaker 3: middle list diplomat at the embassy, a position I held
Speaker 3: when I rerived to Washington back in twenty sixteen. You know,
Speaker 3: I spend the whole day today just shock and with
Speaker 3: this belief that mainly thinking about those two young people,
Speaker 3: about their families, and about my colleagues, the other diplomat
Speaker 3: at the Israeli embassy in Washington. You know, to witness
Speaker 3: such a thing, this is shocking. It's shocking at a
Speaker 3: personal level. It's shocking on a national level. This horrible,
Speaker 3: horrible event.
Speaker 2: Well the thing that bothers me, you know, just besides
Speaker 2: the loss of two innocent lives. But as an American, uh,
Speaker 2: we should be able to provide protection for the diplomatic
Speaker 2: corps and for people who were associated with the diplomatic corps.
Speaker 2: I have to assume that this event, although it happened
Speaker 2: far away from Israel geographically, has shook the country to
Speaker 2: its core.
Speaker 3: By all means, by all means, although you know every
Speaker 3: Israeli including us, the Israeli as well currently outside of Israelia,
Speaker 3: it's by all means.
Speaker 2: Now the young men grew up in Israel and Germany,
Speaker 2: and he apparently was deeply committed to follow the path,
Speaker 2: the professional path that you have followed, wants to wanted
Speaker 2: to be eventually a senior diplomat. And his soon to
Speaker 2: be fiance, Sarah Milgram, they were they were going to
Speaker 2: be going back to israel I guess to meet his parents.
Speaker 2: And again this is this, This just makes it such
Speaker 2: a sad story that they were going back and he
Speaker 2: was going to propose marriage to this young woman. And
Speaker 2: I just don't understand where people like this shooter, I'm
Speaker 2: not even going to mention his name for tonight, at
Speaker 2: least felt that they have the license or the authority
Speaker 2: to kill he's thirty years old, to, according to the
Speaker 2: reports I've read, to kill people of his own age
Speaker 2: and to cut their lives down because somehow he feels
Speaker 2: emboldened by some what for him is is nothing more
Speaker 2: than a political cause.
Speaker 3: Us I I wholeheartedly agree and that this is, this
Speaker 3: is really horrible. And you know, we we're looking at
Speaker 3: the pictures of this young puople standing, you know, so
Speaker 3: happily another reception that took place quite recently, you know,
Speaker 3: to a young professionals standing there, loving each other, enjoying
Speaker 3: their profession, enjoying their time in Washington. They see this
Speaker 3: is this is beyond imagination what had happened. And I
Speaker 3: think you know, we we we were all concerned over
Speaker 3: the last couple of months with a very strong incitement
Speaker 3: against Israel and against Israels. But unfortunately, you know, what
Speaker 3: starts with the incitement against Israel soon translated into and
Speaker 3: and and ends up with with anti Semitic active terror.
Speaker 3: That that is just horrible.
Speaker 4: This is.
Speaker 3: That there's no there's no way that that you know,
Speaker 3: United States or in other parts of the world can
Speaker 3: tolerate or should tolerate any such acts.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that security at all Israel, Israeli compounds and
Speaker 2: facilities in this country, if not around the world, have
Speaker 2: been tightened up in the last in the last twenty
Speaker 2: four hours.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't want to get specifically into our
Speaker 3: security arrangements. But I can say that you know, you
Speaker 3: you're not making a far fetched guess about you know
Speaker 3: that our current security status. And of course I think
Speaker 3: we all you know, quite concerned, not necessarily because there
Speaker 3: is a network or because we know that uh, something
Speaker 3: like that is going to happen, but just out of
Speaker 3: concern that that that act might be you know, repeated
Speaker 3: or duplicated or imitated by some some some someone else
Speaker 3: or someone might dro inspiration from what had happened and
Speaker 3: you know, try to do similar act in other places.
Speaker 3: So we are we are taking uh, some sets of
Speaker 3: security measures upon ourselves, and we are in close contact
Speaker 3: with US law enforcement authorities in Washington, here, in Boston
Speaker 3: and other places where we are present in order to
Speaker 3: make sure that we are safe and secure. It's it's
Speaker 3: a big challenge.
Speaker 2: Well again, the level of anti Semitism which seems to
Speaker 2: have fantastasized in this country of all of all places,
Speaker 2: UH is abhorrent. And when people feel that somehow they
Speaker 2: can take an action like this and that they will
Speaker 2: be I don't know, some sort of a hero.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: The guy in New York who shot the UH the
Speaker 2: insurance executive in the back has been has become lionized
Speaker 2: by by some uh and I even read a report
Speaker 2: tonight that there were some people in this country who
Speaker 2: were uh, you know, somehow you know, pre seeing this
Speaker 2: guy or Elon Omar was asked today in Washington about it,
Speaker 2: and she had no comment. I don't understand how an
Speaker 2: elected official cannot have a comment on something as dastardly
Speaker 2: as this. I don't necessarily want to put you in
Speaker 2: the middle of a political dispute here, but why would
Speaker 2: any politician not immediately denounce this sort of h violence
Speaker 2: directed at absolutely innocent people.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't want to get into American politics. We
Speaker 3: have hours, which is complicated enough to countries politics, let
Speaker 3: alone another country. But but I'll say that that we
Speaker 3: are concerned over the last you know, year and a half,
Speaker 3: especially after Looktober seventh, with a growing incitement against Israel,
Speaker 3: you know, and we were frustrated, you know, from the
Speaker 3: fact that well, you know, men used to condemn or
Speaker 3: just you know, go those are only words, and those
Speaker 3: are you know, legitimate, and but but words has been
Speaker 3: and words easily translated into a call to action, and
Speaker 3: words especially inciting words, when those are not curbed, when
Speaker 3: those are not condemned, can easily make people want to
Speaker 3: take all kinds of foolish decisions or trying to go
Speaker 3: for you know, do violent things or or and this
Speaker 3: is it. You know, it has been concerning for for
Speaker 3: all of us over the last year and a half,
Speaker 3: and fortunately yesterday we got a very painful demonstration of
Speaker 3: how does it actually look like when words are becoming action.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that there are people in our country,
Speaker 2: meaning the United States, on both the far ends of
Speaker 2: the right and the left, who some of them, some
Speaker 2: of them are just simply haters, and some of them
Speaker 2: are people who are haters and are also deranged, which
Speaker 2: is a toxic mix. And when they think that somehow
Speaker 2: their miserable existences can be elevated by what they perceive
Speaker 2: as a heroic act, which is in fact an act
Speaker 2: of absolute cowardice, this is what we get. And the
Speaker 2: language that are used by many, I believe, does encourage
Speaker 2: people who are deranged. Mister Consul General, I very much
Speaker 2: appreciate you joining us tonight and expressing the concern that
Speaker 2: all of us feel. And please understand that the vast
Speaker 2: majority of Americans denounced this. Ninety nine point nine percent
Speaker 2: denounce this action against these two young people and against
Speaker 2: the Israeli, the Israel government. So next time we talk,
Speaker 2: it will be on a better occasion, and I'll ask
Speaker 2: you to take some calls from my listeners tonight. I'm
Speaker 2: just going to thank you for having been with us
Speaker 2: and you know whatever. Yeah, just I want you to
Speaker 2: know our thoughts and prayers are with you and everyone.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Dan, Thank you very much. Always a pleasure
Speaker 3: to speak with you and be part of your show.
Speaker 3: And it is one thing that I can add his dad. Yes,
Speaker 3: today we were overwhelmed by the amount of support and
Speaker 3: empathy and encouragement that we got all over America, tons
Speaker 3: of emails, calls, and I had a you know, I
Speaker 3: had a call, and Governor of Massachusetts called me this morning,
Speaker 3: and the mirror of many other including elected officials and
Speaker 3: businessman and fellow diplomat and just ordinary people that I
Speaker 3: had the pleasure of meeting and knowing here in Boston.
Speaker 3: And this is heartwarming to know that even in difficult
Speaker 3: circumstances and hard times, we're surrounded by it by so
Speaker 3: many friends, so that that is well appreciated. And I
Speaker 3: appreciate the opportunity and your friendship and again the ability
Speaker 3: to speak with you and with your audience tonight on
Speaker 3: such a painful day.
Speaker 2: Well, I know I speak on behalf of my audience,
Speaker 2: and there are you know, tens of thousands of people
Speaker 2: who have heard you tonight and understand that we keep
Speaker 2: saying never again, never again, but something like this must
Speaker 2: never happen again here or anywhere. Thank you again, mister
Speaker 2: Consul General. We will talk soon on a better evening.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, Thank you very much. Dan leaving
Speaker 3: good night to you and the look.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Council General Benny SHARONI, the Israeli Consul General to New England. Now,
Speaker 2: what I want to do is this, Okay, I don't
Speaker 2: often ask this, but I'm asking my audience tonight to
Speaker 2: pick up the phone. I'm sure that the Consul General
Speaker 2: will be listening, UH, And I want to hear and
Speaker 2: denunciation across the board of these sorts of acts, and
Speaker 2: a denunciation of this this terrorist who took it upon
Speaker 2: himself to end the lives of two innocent people who
Speaker 2: were in effect at the beginning of their life. He
Speaker 2: ended three lives last night, the two people who he
Speaker 2: murdered in his life. I hope, and this is my
Speaker 2: thought that if it has proven that he is the
Speaker 2: person who did what appears he did, that the federal
Speaker 2: death penalty applies to him. Because if you kill the
Speaker 2: lives of people who work for a foreign government, and
Speaker 2: here as part of the diplomatic cores you, that's what
Speaker 2: you deserve. You do not speak for the American people,
Speaker 2: but I think this guy needs to be put put
Speaker 2: away for a long time and even potentially put away forever.
Speaker 2: Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty six one seven, nine, three,
Speaker 2: one ten thirty. Will be right back on Nightside, and
Speaker 2: I would like to hear my audience again. Silence, Do
Speaker 2: not be silent, Do not be complicit. Speak out, Speak out.
Speaker 2: Do you have I have a microphone. I want to
Speaker 2: share it with you. We will talk about this until
Speaker 2: at least eleven o'clock. I'm prepared to talk about it
Speaker 2: for the rest of the night, but I need to
Speaker 2: hear your voices as part of the chorus here on
Speaker 2: Nightside that denounces what happened a little more than twenty
Speaker 2: four hours ago in Washington, DC. We'll be right back
Speaker 2: on Nightside after this.
Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBS, the Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: I want to see these lines full. I have only
Speaker 2: one line open, six, one, seven, nine, ten thirty. This
Speaker 2: is a night to stand with the State of Israel.
Speaker 2: Whatever your views are, this, this cannot stand this sort
Speaker 2: of cold blooded murder. One of the reports that I
Speaker 2: read that I was listened to tonight, and I believe
Speaker 2: it was ABC World News tonight. The reporter, I believe,
Speaker 2: claimed or said that this guy had shot this couple
Speaker 2: in the back. Talk about a coward, Talk about a coward.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Matt. Matt, you were first up
Speaker 2: this hour. Good welcome, Matt Hey.
Speaker 5: I appreciate you giving me opportunity to speak on this.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the fact that you've called in and joined us.
Speaker 5: Go right ahead, first and foremost, may their memory be
Speaker 5: a blessing always and not forgotten. This is a tragedy.
Speaker 5: This is something that is going on in the United
Speaker 5: States where individuals such as this coward, this lunatic goes
Speaker 5: and stands outside and paces back and forth, and not
Speaker 5: enough attention is drawn to him, but he shoots them,
Speaker 5: he murders them, and he goes in the building and
Speaker 5: starts when being detained screaming free Palestine, Free Palestine. The
Speaker 5: connection and disconnect of people's frustration what's going on with
Speaker 5: Israel and what I say is their defense to maintain
Speaker 5: their country, and the hatred toward Israel and toward Jews
Speaker 5: is so and it's just overpowering. I see it. I've
Speaker 5: had people say things to me that are you know, reprehensible,
Speaker 5: you know, and it's so it's it's just I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm at a loss for words of how this connection
Speaker 5: is being made because you know, I did it for Gaza,
Speaker 5: I did it, you know, and making these statements and
Speaker 5: these two had nothing to do with it. The man
Speaker 5: just bought a ring. They were gonna be married, they
Speaker 5: were a young couple. This is hatred. This is how
Speaker 5: when silence, bigotry is spread and it's eventually condoned by
Speaker 5: enough people. I know you said ninety nine point nine percent.
Speaker 5: I read I saw on some of the other news
Speaker 5: channels and main news channels locally, people are commenting free power.
Speaker 5: It's sign other comments, Oh there's no more need for
Speaker 5: these people now they're reproduced and there won't be any
Speaker 5: more genin fidal maniacs and there were not the majority,
Speaker 5: but there were comments like that, and this is consistent.
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's why. That's why I think people of
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't understand how anybody hates a
Speaker 2: group of people. I mean, you know, most people of
Speaker 2: all backgrounds are decent people when you get to know them.
Speaker 2: That's just from my experience. So to think that you
Speaker 2: could so hate a group of people that you would
Speaker 2: just cut down and murder to people who you think,
Speaker 2: who you think might or might not be be of
Speaker 2: that background is insane. And again, I want to hear
Speaker 2: from as many people as possible tonight, because sometimes silent
Speaker 2: silence is considered as tacit approval, and I want to
Speaker 2: just dispel that notion, as we have continued to dispel
Speaker 2: that notion on Night Side for a very long time. Matt,
Speaker 2: I'm up on my news break side here. I let
Speaker 2: you go. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5: You're always a friend, is your fan, and I appreciate
Speaker 5: it so many real listeners, No, no.
Speaker 2: Reason not to be, that is for sure. There's a
Speaker 2: very there, you know. I don't kind of think of
Speaker 2: too many countries in the world that I admire more
Speaker 2: than israel I certainly do admire the United States, but
Speaker 2: Israel is right there as far as I'm concerned. We'll
Speaker 2: be back on Nightside. Thanks Matt. We'll be back on
Speaker 2: night Side right after the news break. At the bottom
Speaker 2: of the air the only line opened six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. I want to hear your voice. I want
Speaker 2: to hear your voice in condemning this act. And frankly,
Speaker 2: if if you don't condemn this act, I think you
Speaker 2: miss an opportunity. We'll be back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 1: Night Side on Boston's news radio, we'll go to.
Speaker 2: The folds and we go to Harriet and Tewkesbury. Harriet, welcome,
Speaker 2: You're next on Nightside.
Speaker 6: Oh, thank you, Dan, I'm with a pleasure. My husband
Speaker 6: and I met you at the brunch not long ago.
Speaker 2: Yes, really, well.
Speaker 6: Right right, thank you. I'm just so upset about the
Speaker 6: things that are going on in this country. It's it's
Speaker 6: to have innocent people killed, and and then to to
Speaker 6: see these news headlines that like enforces what's going on.
Speaker 6: Instead of early the truth, they're printing things from what
Speaker 6: Hamas said, which makes no sense. How do you take
Speaker 6: stock in a group like that? And nothing is really
Speaker 6: pressed recently about the poor hostages. Very little except you
Speaker 6: and a few others. But it's always, oh, Israel killed
Speaker 6: this many people. Israel kill Nothing about Hamas hiding in
Speaker 6: places using their own people as shields.
Speaker 2: That's exactly by the way, Harry, you're right on the money,
Speaker 2: that's exactly what they're doing, and our people, some people
Speaker 2: in America just fall for it. But again, I think
Speaker 2: there has to be a pretty strong streak of anti
Speaker 2: Semitism to fall for that. It's almost had. It's incredible
Speaker 2: on its face, but I think that if you're if
Speaker 2: you're so inclined and you want to sort of be
Speaker 2: anti Semitic but be legitimately anti Semitic, you just say, well,
Speaker 2: Israel's a horrible people. They're killing babies. None of this
Speaker 2: would have ever happened if October seventh hadn't happened.
Speaker 7: Of course, not.
Speaker 6: All along. I mean, they've given Palestinians as much as
Speaker 6: a break as they can. They have their own government.
Speaker 6: Hamas was elected by them Israel. They talk like Israel
Speaker 6: is keeping them a hostygen in this little area and
Speaker 6: won't want them go away. There are people that they
Speaker 6: let the Palistians go to college and Jerusalem and other
Speaker 6: places in Israel. There were decent ones there that go
Speaker 6: to school there, they're in the government. And then you've
Speaker 6: got this really hostile group that just doesn't They just
Speaker 6: don't want to live in peace.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have no they they they want to live
Speaker 2: in conflict. Harry, thank you so much for taking the time.
Speaker 2: So great to see. We had a great time at
Speaker 2: the brunch and it was been possible. But please say
Speaker 2: how to your husband for us.
Speaker 6: Okay, thanks Harriet, I well, thank you, thanks.
Speaker 2: You soon, good night. Let me go next to Jony
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania. Jony, you were next on Nightsaga right ahead.
Speaker 7: I just want to say sad and it's the same.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. There's no doubt we're in agreement
Speaker 2: on this, Jony. It's a shocking crime and it should
Speaker 2: be denounced by everyone. And as they say, I heard
Speaker 2: that elon Omar today was asked about it and she
Speaker 2: just couldn't even summon a car mean which which which
Speaker 2: is in of itself in my opinion of comment, they will.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you very much, Joni. I presient your time,
Speaker 2: Thank you, good night. Let me go to Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill,
Speaker 2: you were next time, Nisaga, right ahead, Bill.
Speaker 7: Yeah, good evening, Dana. It's horrible what happened. And you know, uh,
Speaker 7: these people that do this stuff like this. Okay, first
Speaker 7: of all, I think it's just my opinion, but I
Speaker 7: think this is right. I think they hate America. I
Speaker 7: think part there of course it's hate. Okay, but what
Speaker 7: we what we saw, uh, you know, the last couple
Speaker 7: of years, and I think, Dan, this whole hate stuff.
Speaker 7: I think the origin of it started when Hillary Clinton
Speaker 7: said that used a deplorables. That was kind of the
Speaker 7: beginning of this. Now we saw for the last year
Speaker 7: or so, all these uh, college campuses across the United States,
Speaker 7: will all these all these uh well I don't know
Speaker 7: if their kids or not, but you know, rioting and
Speaker 7: and uh and using all the uh, you know, terrible
Speaker 7: slang about the Israel and everything. But it's been going
Speaker 7: on now for so long that but I think that
Speaker 7: this guy and these these people that do this, they
Speaker 7: hate America. And I can tell you that I saw
Speaker 7: a number of at least one third thirty percent of
Speaker 7: the Democrat Party okay supports in one way or another Hamas.
Speaker 7: I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, Bill, I don't know what your
Speaker 2: source on that is. I hope that's not true me too, okay,
Speaker 2: and I again I'm not going to challenge you to
Speaker 2: side a source on it, but uh, I think that
Speaker 2: there are people probably across America who can who will
Speaker 2: find themselves criticizing the tactics that Israel might be using
Speaker 2: in their war with rah with Hamas. I not critical
Speaker 2: of their tactics because I think they have ry finally
Speaker 2: come to the conclusion that they have to do whatever
Speaker 2: they need to do to eliminate Hamas. I don't think
Speaker 2: they're looking to eliminate the Palestinian population, but obviously Hamas
Speaker 2: hides in buildings near schools, in underground tunnels, under hospitals.
Speaker 2: They do everything they can to use Palestinians as human shields, which,
Speaker 2: of course the Palestinians who there, they they are, they're helpless.
Speaker 2: They are not necessarily supporters of Hamas either. But it's
Speaker 2: it's complicated. But what I don't want to do. When
Speaker 2: elon Omar Khnt summon a comment, we can report that
Speaker 2: as fact, but I just don't want to say thirty
Speaker 2: percent of this or forty percent of this unless we
Speaker 2: have something specifically to back that up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, I heard one. I can't remember or
Speaker 7: what was that, damn. But listen, one other thing. There
Speaker 7: is something I got to tell you. My neighbor. Okay,
Speaker 7: I'm seventy five, she's about eighty, but she's a lifelong
Speaker 7: Democrat teacher. She's a retired teacher. And I saw her
Speaker 7: today and we started talking and she said, she just
Speaker 7: she said she can't believe what the Democrat Party did
Speaker 7: hid hiding all this stuff about Biden's you know, just
Speaker 7: his help and everything.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.
Speaker 7: And I don't think the Democrats realized how much damnage
Speaker 7: this is done to their party.
Speaker 2: I think the beginning to realize to be honest.
Speaker 7: With her, because I would have never I would have never,
Speaker 7: I would have never believed that this lady would have
Speaker 7: said that he just was so disgusted with the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Well, it shows that that she's fair about it, and
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot more to come out. To
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I want to know. Here's the
Speaker 2: story that I want to know. And I was going
Speaker 2: to mention this later. Who in the Biden White House
Speaker 2: wanted Joe Biden to have a debate with Donald Trump
Speaker 2: in June. His presidency was sabotaged by a cabal of
Speaker 2: people within the White House who were working for the
Speaker 2: Biden administration. They apparently wanted to get him out of
Speaker 2: the race, and the only way they felt they could
Speaker 2: get him out of the race was to put him
Speaker 2: on stage with Donald Trump. That's the story that has
Speaker 2: yet to come out. I talked about it last year,
Speaker 2: and I'll continue to talk about it. And when some
Speaker 2: enterprising journalist in DC breaks the story, I want you
Speaker 2: to tell you. Next door neighbor, you heard it first
Speaker 2: on Night Side.
Speaker 4: Okay, Oh, I.
Speaker 7: Tell her all the time. I told her to tune
Speaker 7: in to Dan Ray over there. But listen, that would
Speaker 7: be the Kamala when you're talking about right that did that.
Speaker 2: I don't know that it was the well, it would
Speaker 2: have been people who look to put him out there.
Speaker 2: It was like saying to the world, this guy no
Speaker 2: longer can hand the job. I think there was a
Speaker 2: cabal within the White House. There was no reason of
Speaker 2: him to debate Donald Trump in June of that year.
Speaker 2: They should have waited from attack. From a tactical point
Speaker 2: of view, if they really felt Biden was the man
Speaker 2: let him go to his convention. Conventions are always very
Speaker 2: orchestrated and all of that. And then if there had
Speaker 2: to be a presidential debate, they could have done it
Speaker 2: sometime in September October. They hung him out to dry
Speaker 2: in late June. I'm telling you it's going to be
Speaker 2: shown to be proven and I know it, Dann.
Speaker 7: When they get to the bottom of that, I'll bet
Speaker 7: you that James Cliburn has something to do with it.
Speaker 2: I don't know that Cliburn would, because Cliburn was such
Speaker 2: a loyalist to him. No, I'd be looking at Ron
Speaker 2: Klain and his staff at the White House. Remember he
Speaker 2: stood up that one morning and said, Hey, Donald, you
Speaker 2: want to have a debate? Make my day. I'm telling it.
Speaker 2: That's how. That's how it occurred that and Trump said
Speaker 2: let's do it, and that was the end of his
Speaker 2: campaign's campaign.
Speaker 7: Dan, I just want to tell you one thing. I
Speaker 7: don't know anything about your politics up there in Massachusetts,
Speaker 7: but that guy you had on this runner for governor,
Speaker 7: I listened to the whole thing. He has common sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a couple of good candidates up here,
Speaker 2: and we'll see how it works out. I mean, Massachusetts
Speaker 2: is is into instinctively a democratic state, but we do
Speaker 2: tend to occasionally. We had Bill Well. Mitt Romney was
Speaker 2: governor here for a while. Paul Salucci, Uh, you go
Speaker 2: back further, John Volpi, Frank Sergeant. It's kind of like Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: You've had some Republican govenors down there. It's not all
Speaker 2: that different from Pennsylvania. To be honest with you, Bill,
Speaker 2: I got to run here. A great call. Thank you,
Speaker 2: You have a great Now take quick break, coming right
Speaker 2: back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w B
Speaker 1: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep rolling him. We're going to go next
Speaker 2: to on Jean and Evergine. You're next to a knightsig right, eh, Gene?
Speaker 3: Hi?
Speaker 8: Dan, you know, can you hear me?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I can hear perfectly.
Speaker 8: Thank you. I'm so upset about this. That young couple
Speaker 8: that had everything to live for, just stanting out in
Speaker 8: life and and someone goes and does this. Now here's
Speaker 8: the thing. There's way too much of the press showing
Speaker 8: one side of things. I'm sorry. All the channels I
Speaker 8: see it all the time, and they're constantly you know,
Speaker 8: they'll show this or that. Now, there was something on
Speaker 8: one of the channels tonight about things that happened some
Speaker 8: protests on Tuesday that happened in New York, and I
Speaker 8: never heard anything about them today, is what Thursday? I
Speaker 8: didn't see it on the news.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that at the graduation ceremony for Columbia
Speaker 2: that there was some protests at Columbia which was disruptive
Speaker 2: of the ceremony. And the president of Columbia now was
Speaker 2: a former NBC television reporter, Claire Shipment uh And and
Speaker 2: she apparently was bowed as the president of Columbia. Columbia
Speaker 2: is a basket case right now. Colombia is. I mean,
Speaker 2: Harvard is in much better shape than Columbia is. In
Speaker 2: my opinion, Columbia, of all the Ivy League colleges, is
Speaker 2: the one that needs the most attention in my opinion.
Speaker 2: And I'm kind of surprised that the Trump administration is
Speaker 2: focusing so much on Harvard. Obviously, Harvard is a huge name,
Speaker 2: bigger name than Columbia, but Columbia is one of the
Speaker 2: Ivys as well, and that is the basket case right well.
Speaker 8: I think that I think that you know, many we've
Speaker 8: we've let in way too many students from other countries.
Speaker 8: I really feel that way, and people from other countries,
Speaker 8: because many of them have no allegiance at all to
Speaker 8: our country a way of life I believe they have.
Speaker 8: They won't assimilate, They don't assimilate, and they have no
Speaker 8: plan to. But there is trouble everywhere with lots of things.
Speaker 8: There's no rules anymore. Everyone just does and says what
Speaker 8: they want. And these these students, I mean, I think
Speaker 8: we should have speakers even in the grade schools that
Speaker 8: come in and talk to the parents, you know, the
Speaker 8: Jewish League or whatever, come in and have speakers that
Speaker 8: talk to people and discuss things well on their way
Speaker 8: of life.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Really, no, I understand your point. Let's see if people
Speaker 2: react to that suggestion.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Jane.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you called Pamela. It's August, Pamela. You're next time
Speaker 2: night Saga right ahead.
Speaker 9: Hi, good evening and easy news pretty regularly and it's
Speaker 9: so I appreciate so much of hearing what you're saying now,
Speaker 9: But in often the newscast WBZ is included in that
Speaker 9: we're hearing so much being one sided in this war
Speaker 9: on not just Israel.
Speaker 10: Wish people in general. And what's so upsetting We hear
Speaker 10: in the news when Israel is fighting back and trying
Speaker 10: to get hostages living in hell. But yet, you know,
Speaker 10: we hear they thought that.
Speaker 9: No, we don't hear they fought back.
Speaker 10: We hear they shot and women and children died. But
Speaker 10: nothing has been said about the constant and continuous barrage,
Speaker 10: including today of rockets.
Speaker 2: Well, I got it. I just gotta tell you, Pamela,
Speaker 2: I think you know how I feel about Israel. I
Speaker 2: listen to WBC News and I believe it's it's balanced,
Speaker 2: and I think it's fear. I hear reports and I
Speaker 2: would be more than happy to join you in that criticism.
Speaker 2: But uh, I listened in various times during the day, Uh,
Speaker 2: and I I know that, uh, that that is that
Speaker 2: is fear reporting about the Middle East.
Speaker 10: I respectfully disagree because they continuously here so much about
Speaker 10: Israel's attacking and hitting the hospitals and.
Speaker 7: All of that.
Speaker 10: But I would I would offer to you to look
Speaker 10: back and get someone to do the researches. How much
Speaker 10: in the last month rockets have been shot at the
Speaker 10: country of Israel, the state of Israel, and yet have
Speaker 10: not been mentioned one iota.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Again, in all honesty, Pamela, there are news organ media
Speaker 2: research organizations that follow that stuff. I can. I can
Speaker 2: only tell you that I'm a pretty Do you have
Speaker 2: any idea how I feel about the state of Israel?
Speaker 2: Do you know how I feel about the state of Israel?
Speaker 2: Do you listen to this program?
Speaker 10: I believe from listening to you you you very.
Speaker 9: Much support the state of Israel.
Speaker 2: Okaye. So so if if, if, if your theory that
Speaker 2: that WBZ somehow has been on fear to Israel, why
Speaker 2: would they have me on for four hours, five nights
Speaker 2: a week. It just doesn't It doesn't hang together. I
Speaker 2: think that the WBZ does as fair a job as
Speaker 2: they possibly can on every subject, but particularly on Israel.
Speaker 2: And I know that I know the people who I
Speaker 2: work with.
Speaker 5: I think you have.
Speaker 10: I think you have. What I am saying is my
Speaker 10: I understand your point.
Speaker 2: I just but unless unless you have something unless pam Again,
Speaker 2: all I'm just saying is unless you have something to
Speaker 2: back it up. I think you you have an impression,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you believe that impression, But just think
Speaker 2: of the logic that I'm telling you. You're basically saying
Speaker 2: there's a bias UH at our station. Why would they
Speaker 2: allow Dan Ray, who is an open UH and longtime
Speaker 2: supporter of the State of Israel to do this talk show?
Speaker 2: I mean, it just doesn't. It doesn't as.
Speaker 9: Night follows, but it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Okay, I will agree to disagree. I hope that you
Speaker 2: can listen UH and hear more of what you want
Speaker 2: to hear. But I got to keep rolling, Pamela. I'm
Speaker 2: giving you plenty of opportunity to criticize the station from
Speaker 2: on which I work, UH, and I don't agree with you.
Speaker 2: I could sit here and listen, but I'm telling you
Speaker 2: I don't agree with you. Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: your call. I hope you continue to call Nightside. Let's
Speaker 2: keep rolling here. Going to go next to Mike is
Speaker 2: in Brighton. Mike, You're next on Nightside. Go ahead.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, well, you know see what where I can
Speaker 4: add to UH. First of all, considering that the considered
Speaker 4: that the killer Rodriguez was was not a Muslim but
Speaker 4: a just a Latino. The headlines, the headline should be
Speaker 4: a radical Democrat killed American Jews.
Speaker 2: I don't know he's a Democrat, Republican, independent or whatever.
Speaker 4: Oh, well that that's the his his so you know
Speaker 4: they've already been investigating this. You know, the you know
Speaker 4: is his his social media? You know he's a he's
Speaker 4: a he's a socialist. Uh, he's uh you know it
Speaker 4: was donated to democrats, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Again? You know, look, Mike, let me just say this, Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't know what your source of information on that is.
Speaker 2: I think it's very.
Speaker 4: Ear the regular TV.
Speaker 2: Okay, well again, what what station are you going to
Speaker 2: tell me you heard at? Give me something specific?
Speaker 4: Well, the the the the the the Fox, the Fox
Speaker 4: people at night, you know.
Speaker 2: Uh, well again you know what, the Fox people at
Speaker 2: night have a bias. Uh that that is very clear
Speaker 2: and evident, uh I. I Mike me, Mike, don't try
Speaker 2: not to interrupt me if you can, Michael, Okay, all
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say to you is that I'm running
Speaker 2: out of time. I will give you some time here,
Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna deal in impressions. It's twenty four
Speaker 2: hours after this event. When I find out what this
Speaker 2: guy's background is, you will hear it from me clear,
Speaker 2: loudly and clearly, but I will have it nailed down.
Speaker 2: And I won't be relying upon another news network.
Speaker 4: I will.
Speaker 2: I will have a full report for you. Trust me
Speaker 2: on that, Okay.
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, that's fine, all right.
Speaker 2: And feel free to call me back and challenge me.
Speaker 2: And if you have some specifics that you want to
Speaker 2: disagree with me on, it is what it is and
Speaker 2: I have I'm not gonna label him as something until
Speaker 2: I know what he is. I just I'm too much
Speaker 2: of a journalist to do it any other way, Mike,
Speaker 2: And pardon me for I would rather be right than first. Okay,
Speaker 2: they might be saying things that are correct, but I
Speaker 2: haven't seen that. And until I see it, and I
Speaker 2: spend my day looking for that stuff. Until I see it,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to allow it on my program. So
Speaker 2: I gotta let you go for now.
Speaker 3: We can.
Speaker 2: We can review this again later this week or next week.
Speaker 2: Fair enough.
Speaker 4: Well, anyway, you know, I'm out of time.
Speaker 2: I'm in the newscast, Mike, I'm in the newscast. I
Speaker 2: have to leave you. Thank you. We'll be back on
Speaker 2: Night's side, and we'll continue on the other side of
Speaker 2: the news.