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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm tell you Basy

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Al Griffin. As we head into the ten

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour, we have a couple of hours left and

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<v Speaker 2>just want to thank everyone who took the time to

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<v Speaker 2>call in last night. That was a fun hour. We

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about this article in the Boston Globe today

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<v Speaker 2>by a writer who was not thrilled with the Cape traffic.

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<v Speaker 2>The name is Billy Baker. We invited Bill to be

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<v Speaker 2>on the show tonight, but again, sometimes people have other

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<v Speaker 2>plans and we certainly understand that. And I wasn't being

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<v Speaker 2>critical of him at all. It just used his thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>and his comments as a pretty good hour of conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>We have two hours left at eleven o'clock. I will

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<v Speaker 2>ask you during the eleven o'clock hour or two, perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>tell me a story of something good that happened to

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<v Speaker 2>you this week. I had something good happened to me

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday night and it was with someone actually helped me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hope that some of you will share some

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<v Speaker 2>stories and maybe you did something that helps someone this week.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's that's the eleven this hour. Donald Trump's on

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<v Speaker 2>a roll. Donald Trump during the campaign used to say

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<v Speaker 2>that you'll get so tired of winning. Well, today, President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump had a win from the United States Supreme Court,

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<v Speaker 2>a six to three decision basically told judges the nine

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<v Speaker 2>the nine Supreme Court justices told federal judges that they

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<v Speaker 2>have to limit this legal tact that federal judges had

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<v Speaker 2>been using. And in fairness, this is not so much

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<v Speaker 2>a fight of Donald Trump against federal judges. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a fight of the presidents of the United States, not

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<v Speaker 2>only Donald Trump, Joe Biden, President Obama and others before them.

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<v Speaker 2>There came a point in time where federal judges uh

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<v Speaker 2>basically decided to issue injunctions against executive orders. Now, President

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<v Speaker 2>Biden had a lot of executive orders. President Trump had

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<v Speaker 2>a flurry of executive orders. The case that was decided

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<v Speaker 2>today did not decide the substantive issue of birthright citizenship.

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<v Speaker 2>That case will be decided in the United States Supreme

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<v Speaker 2>Court in the next next term, which begins next October. First,

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<v Speaker 2>the US Supreme the USA Supreme Court basically is in session.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in session year round in theory because you can

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<v Speaker 2>always get to a justice if you if you have to. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>lawyers know how to do that. However, the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 2>basically begins to meet the first week in October and

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<v Speaker 2>they wrap it up generally by June thirtieth, but they

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<v Speaker 2>wrapped it up this year days earlier. There are no

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<v Speaker 2>more decisions coming out and the case that basically got

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<v Speaker 2>its way to the court on procedural issues. Now, birthright

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<v Speaker 2>citizenship is still an open question. Birthright citizenship, as I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure most of my listeners know, is a part of

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<v Speaker 2>the fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which was passed right

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<v Speaker 2>after the Civil War. It was the thirteenth, fourteenth and

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<v Speaker 2>fifteenth Amendment that codified the abolition of slavery and also

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<v Speaker 2>a variety of rights, including citizenship for anyone born in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States of America and under the jurisdiction of

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<v Speaker 2>Now this birthright citizenship had has been on the books

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<v Speaker 2>birthright citizenship as it's known for pretty close to one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty years, and this is probably the most

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<v Speaker 2>serious challenge. I don't think the Court's going to agree

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<v Speaker 2>with President Trump in my opinion. That's again, let me

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<v Speaker 2>just read to you Fourteenth Amendment, Section one all persons

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<v Speaker 2>born or naturalized in the United States, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>the phrase that the Trump administration wants to challenge and

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<v Speaker 2>subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United

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<v Speaker 2>States and the state wherein they reside. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he will find five votes on the Court to agree

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<v Speaker 2>with his interpretation. However, however, that case is what allowed

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court that challenge is what allowed the Supreme

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<v Speaker 2>Court to look at the idea that a single federal

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<v Speaker 2>and they are about six hundred and fifty of them

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<v Speaker 2>at any given time, can basically issue what was considered

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<v Speaker 2>to be a nationwide injunction. And now this of course

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<v Speaker 2>would stop executive orders that any president, every president wants

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<v Speaker 2>more power. So Donald Trump has won that procedural issue

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<v Speaker 2>today six to three vote. It's interesting one of the judges, Justices,

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<v Speaker 2>Elena Kagan, when she was Solicitor General, she argued against

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<v Speaker 2>the very point at this very point, so she did

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<v Speaker 2>not write the minority opinion was written by Sonya Soda Majora.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, the bottom line is that's a win for

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump. We talked earlier this week about what occurred

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<v Speaker 2>last Saturday night. I mean, it seemed just six nights ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Six nights ago, we were sitting at this point listening

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<v Speaker 2>to Donald Trump claim a great achievement in Iran by

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<v Speaker 2>taking out these three nuclear installations facilities in Iran. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's been six days. And as you know, initially there

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<v Speaker 2>suggest that maybe the raids were not as successful as

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump had expressed. But I think subsequent to that,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly the presentation that General Dan Kane made l yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>we played a lot of that last night, was pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>And as you know, there is now been an acknowledgment

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<v Speaker 2>The President today on the birthright citizen case, made his

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<v Speaker 2>argument as to what it means, and he sees the

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<v Speaker 2>timing of the fourteenth Amendment coming as it did shortly

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<v Speaker 2>after the end of the Civil War. He sees the

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<v Speaker 2>ratification of the fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution,

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<v Speaker 2>which actually I believe it's let me get the date here,

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<v Speaker 2>just to be sure we have the right date. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's eighteen sixty eight, July ninth, eighteen sixty eight. He

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<v Speaker 2>sees it as lenked very much to the Civil War.

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<v Speaker 2>So Rob, if you would be so kind, let's play.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the president today claiming victory as well, he

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<v Speaker 2>should cut twenty one.

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<v Speaker 3>And thanks to this decision, we can now promptly file

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<v Speaker 3>to proceed with numerous policies that have been wrongly enjoined

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<v Speaker 3>on a nationwide basis. And some of the cases we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about would be ending birthright citizenship, which now comes

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<v Speaker 3>to the fore that was meant for the babies of slaves.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't meant for people trying to scam the system

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<v Speaker 3>and come into the country on a vacation. This was,

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<v Speaker 3>in fact, it was the same date, the exact same date,

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the Civil war.

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<v Speaker 2>It was meant for the babies of slaves. And it

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<v Speaker 2>is so clean and so obvious.

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<v Speaker 3>But this lets us go there and finally win that

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<v Speaker 3>case because hundreds of thousands of people are pouring into

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<v Speaker 3>our country under birthright citizenship, and it wasn't meant for

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<v Speaker 3>that reason. It was meant for the babies of slaves.

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<v Speaker 3>So thanks to this decision, we can now properly file

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<v Speaker 3>to proceed with these numerous policies and those that have

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<v Speaker 3>been wrongly enjoined on a nationwide basis, including birthright citizenship.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not certain he's going to win on birthright

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<v Speaker 2>citizenship on the substantive case, there are other cases that,

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, this opens the door. And he lists

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<v Speaker 2>some of those rob cut twenty two, please.

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<v Speaker 3>Ending sanctuary city funding, suspending refugee resettlement, freezing unnecessary funding,

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<v Speaker 3>stopping federal taxpayers from paying for transgender surgeries, and numerous

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<v Speaker 3>other priorities of the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>We have so many of them. I have a whole list.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to bore you, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>have pamped up and say a few words, but there's

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<v Speaker 3>really as you can talk as long as she wants,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's a very important decision. This is a decision

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<v Speaker 3>that covers a tremendous amount of territory. But I want

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<v Speaker 3>to just thank again the Supreme Court for this ruling.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a giant.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a giant, and they should be very proud, and

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<v Speaker 3>our country should be very proud of the Supreme Court today.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Attorney General and Bondi did put it in

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<v Speaker 2>some perspective. Now again, I don't think that this means

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<v Speaker 2>birthright citizenship is out the door. I don't think there

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<v Speaker 2>are five votes in the court for that. If you disagree,

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<v Speaker 2>feel free. This is the Attorney General Pam Bondi cut

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<v Speaker 2>number twenty three. Please rob twenty three.

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<v Speaker 4>Americans are finally getting what they voted for. No longer

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<v Speaker 4>while we have rogue judges striking down President Trump's policies

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<v Speaker 4>across the entire nation. No longer today. In the six

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<v Speaker 4>to three opinion, Justice Barrett correctly holds that the District

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<v Speaker 4>Court lacks authority to enter nationwide or universal injunctions. These

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<v Speaker 4>lawless injunctions gave relief to everyone in the world instead

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<v Speaker 4>of the parties before the court, as the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 4>held today, they turned district courts into the imperial judiciary.

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<v Speaker 4>Active liberal justices. Judges have used these injunctions to block

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<v Speaker 4>virtually all of President Trump's policies.

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<v Speaker 2>Ironically, when there is a democratic president, and there will

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<v Speaker 2>be someday a democratic president, those democratic president, that democratic

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<v Speaker 2>president will be very happy with this decision because it

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<v Speaker 2>will impede the efforts that some judges might be Republican

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<v Speaker 2>judges would have used to enjoin democratic initiatives. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everybody understands that concept. And all this says

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<v Speaker 2>is that if you're a judge in the district of Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>your decision affects the parties in front of you and

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<v Speaker 2>theoretically can't affect the rest of the district while that

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<v Speaker 2>case is being brought up on appeal. But this is,

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<v Speaker 2>without question, it minimizes the role. It's one way try

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<v Speaker 2>to explain it to Youmi is the role, the expanded

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<v Speaker 2>role that federal judges were exercising, and uh, there, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a victory for the White House, but it's nollly

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<v Speaker 2>victory for the Trump white House. It's a victory for

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<v Speaker 2>successor white houses. And when the dynamics of the White

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<v Speaker 2>House change, there will be democratic presidents and Republicans will

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<v Speaker 2>have their hands tied because there were Republican judges who

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<v Speaker 2>did the same in terms of enjoying initiatives by Democratic presidents.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's the right ruling. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>hear from you. There's also a couple of other important

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<v Speaker 2>rulings today. Six one seven more than a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>others actually six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six months, seven nine, three, one, ten thirty. Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>at it. Coming back right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the well, we're going to get right to

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<v Speaker 2>the phones. There are some other decisions that we can

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<v Speaker 2>talk about as well. And again, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>get too wonky on this, and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>try to run a law school class here. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to put it in language that most people will understand.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it's a victory for the current president, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's a victory for presidents going forward. Franklin Roosevelt fought

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<v Speaker 2>with the Supreme Courts. As Supreme courts, effect he tried

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<v Speaker 2>to basically change the number of justices in the Supreme Courts.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a long battle that exists. It's forever

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<v Speaker 2>between the executive branch and the judicial branch. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is one that rightfully, I think was decided today. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that some of the hyperbolic language in the descents

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<v Speaker 2>served no purpose. Will on Long Island, Hey will welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you hey?

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<v Speaker 1>Dan? I think you know how I feel about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I am elated. I couldn't even be more happy, because

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<v Speaker 1>as an originalist, okay, I'm not a big fan of

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<v Speaker 1>star decisive and precedent and all of this nonsense and

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<v Speaker 1>twisting and manipulating the Constitution until it becomes what you

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<v Speaker 1>want it to be, which is completely subverting the process

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<v Speaker 1>of making amendments and changing it if you need to

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<v Speaker 1>change it. Okay, this brings back the power that belongs

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the decision today was the right decision

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of Starry deciusis and precedent and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I agree with that, and obviously, but I also

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<v Speaker 2>You're not telling me you agreed with plus versus Ferguson.

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<v Speaker 2>there were mistakes. The dread Scott decision had to be overturned.

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<v Speaker 2>basically change the practice in which the fourteenth Amendment because

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the language, right, the language makes it pretty

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<v Speaker 1>clear that it's almost like an anchor baby is a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And now what we've turned the anchor baby into is

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<v Speaker 1>Run over here, pop out a baby. Now we have

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<v Speaker 2>The fight next term will be over the phrase and

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<v Speaker 2>subject to the jurisdiction thereof. So, in other words, diplomats

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<v Speaker 2>who are here in the United States, they are not

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<v Speaker 2>subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that makes sense and that small narrow window of

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<v Speaker 1>a possibility of what could happen. But that's obviously not

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<v Speaker 1>what the Trump administration is interested in. Trying to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to try to use that. They're going to

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<v Speaker 2>with a specific purpose. I mean, there's an entire travel

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<v Speaker 2>purpose is not to live here, not to be here,

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<v Speaker 2>but to gain citizenship for the child when they have

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<v Speaker 2>the child here. That's this, There's there's some possibility here.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta be honest, I'm not really a I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really interested in his battle with the fourteenth Amendment,

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you the truth, I'm not looking to turn

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<v Speaker 1>that over in any way really. And if that's you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I look at that on the fourteenth Amendment. So but

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<v Speaker 5>As it got away with, right whoever, whoever, whoever came

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<v Speaker 5>and then all of a sudden became a citizen, that's

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<v Speaker 1>You literally landed here on vacation and uh and had

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<v Speaker 1>a baby, you know, on purpose because you knew of

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<v Speaker 1>make them a citizen. That's you know, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>Like like I said, I'm into original interpretation.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to go to the legislative history and you

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<v Speaker 2>got to see what the argument was. That's where you

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<v Speaker 2>get into legislative history. Uh, and subject to the jurisdiction

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<v Speaker 2>thereof that's I don't think Trump will win, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not as certainty he will he will lose. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like you said, you can make the argument.

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<v Speaker 1>There's lots of arguments you can make. They made the

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<v Speaker 1>argument for abortion on pretty uh un you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>not a very strong foundation for making uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Roe v. Wade decision, Okay, and that's why subsequently

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<v Speaker 1>it was overturned because it was a shaky found fundation. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you could make an argument here. Anybody can make

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<v Speaker 1>an argument for anything. I've seen all types of people

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<v Speaker 1>make arguments over crazy things. I don't think that one stands.

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<v Speaker 1>But this one, this one was huge because this one,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe we ever allowed one of six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>his gavel and decide to just absolutely stop or have

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<v Speaker 1>an injunction that stops, you know, executive powers across the

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<v Speaker 1>entire nation that the people voted for by millions and millions.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty million people voted for what we're doing here, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these things that they try to stop

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<v Speaker 1>fit within the laws that already exist under the executive branch.

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<v Speaker 1>And they find some way to try to stop it,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you know those powers have been severely limited.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks ren Real, Thank you much. Talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a great weekend. Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty, six one, seven, nine, ten thirty. We will

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<v Speaker 2>get to some of the other decisions as well. The

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<v Speaker 2>others are interesting. They're all interesting. Back on Nightside after

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<v Speaker 2>this Night Side.

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Wow, that's such a sad story. IL appreciate it

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of some of the other decisions that came

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<v Speaker 2>down today that perhaps were not as technical as the

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<v Speaker 2>their authority their power. Okay, I think that that was

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<v Speaker 2>the correct decision. There is a decision in which the

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court sided with parents, essentially saying that parents who

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<v Speaker 2>want to withdraw the elementary school children with an emphasis

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<v Speaker 2>on elementary from class with storybooks with LGBTQ plus characters

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<v Speaker 2>are being read a six to three decision again, same

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<v Speaker 2>division that divided along ideological lines. The court, reading here

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<v Speaker 2>from a piece out of USA today, said a Maryland

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<v Speaker 2>public school district refusal to allow opt outs likely burdens

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<v Speaker 2>parents First Amendment right to freely exercise their religion. They

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<v Speaker 2>challenge continues. Justice Sonya Soda Majora disagree with the ruling,

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<v Speaker 2>saying children of all faiths and backgrounds deserve an education

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<v Speaker 2>and an opportunity to practice living in our multicultural society.

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<v Speaker 2>So what that shows is how you phrase the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>If you phrase the issue in the context of religious liberty,

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<v Speaker 2>the parents win. If you phrase the issue in the

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<v Speaker 2>context of us being a multicultural society and we all

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<v Speaker 2>must understand one another, then the minority would win. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>the Justice has blocked a challenge from the Conservatives to

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<v Speaker 2>end a eight billion dollar phone and internet subsidy program.

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<v Speaker 2>In addition to that, let me see what else. What

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<v Speaker 2>are the ones that are probably the most Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 2>one here that upheld a Texas law which said that

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<v Speaker 2>individuals in the state of Texas, if they want to

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<v Speaker 2>access pornography on their computers, they have to be eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>years of age. Again, I don't know how that will

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<v Speaker 2>be enforced, but that's what the court said. So some

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<v Speaker 2>interesting decisions from the Supreme Court today, If you'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to comment on any of them, including the one in

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<v Speaker 2>which the power of individual federal judges are limited. You

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<v Speaker 2>were more than welcome. We have a couple of lines

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<v Speaker 2>at six, one, seven, nine, three, ten thirty. Let's go

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<v Speaker 2>to joe An and Waltham. Joeanne, you are next on nightside. Welcome.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi Dan, How you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing fine here for a Friday night. Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 2>couple hours left. Nice to hear your voice. What which decision?

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted to call you during the week, but it

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<v Speaker 6>And I couldn't think straight.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay. It's going to warm up next week too,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm glad you got through tonight. What's yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about these decisions?

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<v Speaker 6>Tickled? I am so happy they finally put a stop

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<v Speaker 6>to these Pattison judges. It's wonderful. Yeah, it just it's

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<v Speaker 6>the correct decision, and finally they did it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is, but but realized that the next

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<v Speaker 2>time there's a democratic president.

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<v Speaker 6>And it'll be the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well the roles will be reversed. So again, it's

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<v Speaker 2>there have been strong Every president, Democrat or Republican, has

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<v Speaker 2>tried to exert their authority, either through executive orders or

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<v Speaker 2>they clip the wings, if there are Republican judges or

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<v Speaker 2>conservative judges, they will be limited in how much they

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<v Speaker 2>can clip the wings of a Biden presidency or a

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<v Speaker 6>Except how many times did Republicans try to do injunctions

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<v Speaker 6>on fewer Obama or Biden? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no question is in terms of quantity, no question,

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<v Speaker 2>the activist groups on the left outnumbered the activist groups

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<v Speaker 6>The quest Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I think it's wonderful. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>well at least well, at least now he can do

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<v Speaker 6>what the people wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean the US can still try to

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<v Speaker 2>if the I guess there's there's there's some other procedural

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats will figure out a way and the Republicans will

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<v Speaker 2>figure out a way. There's always going to have that

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<v Speaker 2>that tension and that competition between the executive and the judicial.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously there's three equal branches of government, but presidents think

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're the top dog. The A lot of judges

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<v Speaker 2>think the judicials the top dog, and of course everyone

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<v Speaker 6>That Yeah, I understand in some countries the judicial took

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<v Speaker 6>over and it was like the downfall of the head

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<v Speaker 2>if you have some rogue dictator a pressing people. I

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<v Speaker 2>the judicial activists.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so you got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about that. There's some judges that took down ed.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, good for them. Joeyn, thank you much as always.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a great weekend.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, talk to you you too. They take care.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night. Let me go next, go next to WILLI

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<v Speaker 2>is in Quincy. Will are you next on nightside? Your

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on any of these cases? Will you go right ahead?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>birth right citizenship? Yes, something that's to your heart the

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<v Speaker 7>know what the birth rights the citizenship that was changed

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<v Speaker 2>There, I'm not familiar with that. I happen to be

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<v Speaker 2>I was able to get through the legacy of my

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<v Speaker 2>my paternal grandfather. What what what? What was? How was

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<v Speaker 2>rule changed in Ireland?

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<v Speaker 7>Really he went to a referendum for the people and

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<v Speaker 7>after two thousand and four, if we were born, if

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<v Speaker 7>a child was born to parents who were not citizens,

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<v Speaker 7>they would not be allowed in the country. There was

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<v Speaker 7>a certain stipulations. If you google it, it's pretty like

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<v Speaker 7>a case study. It would help people understand because before

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<v Speaker 7>you know, you know, in Ireland, it was unusual to

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<v Speaker 7>immigrants to Ireland, but it became a prosperous country and

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<v Speaker 7>the economy is pretty good there now.

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<v Speaker 2>So oh yeah, absolutely. Look, Ireland historically was flat on

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<v Speaker 2>its back economically in the early to mid nineteen eighties

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<v Speaker 2>and then the Celtic Tiger occurred and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>American companies invested in Ireland and Ireland did really well

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen nineties. Immigration is up there, you're absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course now you're saying in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>they said, okay, we've had it with the immigration and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to end. So you had a form of

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<v Speaker 2>birthright citizenship in Ireland which was ended, was that ended

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<v Speaker 2>in the courts or through some sort of a referendum.

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<v Speaker 7>Or if the referendum to the people went to which

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<v Speaker 7>is different from here. But you know, as I say,

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<v Speaker 7>the people spoke. But back it goes back to the

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<v Speaker 7>old way of as you were saying, people come on

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<v Speaker 7>vacation or coming as students and having kids and then

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<v Speaker 7>trying to stay through the berths of the kid.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah, Well, the one of the arguments would

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<v Speaker 2>have been and again, obviously Trump's going to make the

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<v Speaker 2>argument that the fourteenth Amendment was intended for the children

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<v Speaker 2>of the newly emancipated slave population, which is a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good argument. No one who was alive and in the

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<v Speaker 2>US Senate when the thirteenth, fourteenth, fifteenth amendments were passed

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<v Speaker 2>could have anticipated the ease at which people from other

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<v Speaker 2>continents could fly here, because airplanes were beyond their imagination

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<v Speaker 2>at this point. You know. So, I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be interesting to see what the legislative history.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's sometimes.

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<v Speaker 7>Terminology is a modern you know, modern terminology, not like

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<v Speaker 7>the you know, for as I said, it was the

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<v Speaker 7>whole new case.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you had the ability if if there was a

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<v Speaker 2>referendum in this country. Because it's in the constitution, it

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<v Speaker 2>can't be overturned by a simple referendum. It would have

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<v Speaker 2>to be either changed by a constitutional amendment or the

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<v Speaker 2>US Supreme Court, through case law, would have to decide

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<v Speaker 2>that that that it is that it is that the

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<v Speaker 2>practice of birthright citizen needs to change. Obviously, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to affect American citizens who live here and were

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<v Speaker 2>born here and are having children here. It might effect

473
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<v Speaker 2>there actually is a tourist trade where we're walking people

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<v Speaker 2>from China fly to California, UH, and they're put up

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<v Speaker 2>in very nice hotels and it's a and and then

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<v Speaker 2>when the time comes they have the child, and the

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<v Speaker 2>child then UH is a citizen. And at some point

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<v Speaker 2>down the line, those children might return with their parents

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<v Speaker 2>and the parents might argue, our child's as it is,

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<v Speaker 2>and we should be a citizen.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, yeah, yeah, all right, yeah. I just think if

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<v Speaker 7>you're googled it, you know, if someone googled it, it

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<v Speaker 7>just is a modern day terminology, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, really I appreciate it. Have I spoken with you before?

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, first time.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to give I wish your first time callers,

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<v Speaker 2>would you would announce yourselves, because we don't want someone

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<v Speaker 2>to be a first time caller and not be welcome

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<v Speaker 2>here at night side. Really, what county did you come

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<v Speaker 2>here from?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm from them, can be here over thirty five years.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh yeah, I took my father to Ireland and

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<v Speaker 2>we went to Limerick in nineteen eighty four, so that

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<v Speaker 2>would have been before when you were born. And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember some beautiful tennis courts in Limerick. Limerick is an

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<v Speaker 2>old estra an industrial city, but I think it's made

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a comeback as well.

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<v Speaker 7>It's high tech yea and pharmaceutical and a great university

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<v Speaker 7>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, well, Willie, glad to have you with us, and

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<v Speaker 2>you got your citizenship and we're the same, we're both

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<v Speaker 2>dual citizens. Thanks Willy, congratulation, thank you, thank you, good night. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I got wide open lines here. I'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from any of you if you'd like to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court decisions today, the birthright citizenship decision, which

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<v Speaker 2>was a procedural decision in which the Trump administration utilized

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<v Speaker 2>that decision to basically cut back the power and the

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<v Speaker 2>influence of individual federal judges they have been using a

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<v Speaker 2>device which is called a nationwide injunction, which would enjoin

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<v Speaker 2>the the orders presidential orders that President Trump was signing

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<v Speaker 2>furiously in the fierce free weeks first few weeks of

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<v Speaker 2>his administration. He still signs them periodically as he comes along.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there would at least two others that I

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<v Speaker 2>think are of real interest, and one of them is

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court, by again the same six to three split,

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<v Speaker 2>decided to support parents, a group of parents who wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to withdraw their kids from this again elementary school, not

518
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<v Speaker 2>talking junior high school, not talking high school, elementary school

519
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<v Speaker 2>when story books with LGBTQ plus characters were being read.

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<v Speaker 2>The justices also upheld a Texas porn age verification law.

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<v Speaker 2>How this will be endorsed, I don't know. They also

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<v Speaker 2>held the same six to three majority that the laws

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<v Speaker 2>survived because it only incidentally burdens the protected speech of adults.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not an adult is supposedly in Texas, cant

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<v Speaker 2>a few pornography on the internet will well. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how they enforced that. Maybe someone smarter than me

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<v Speaker 2>can explain that. But once you've got a computer, access

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<v Speaker 2>to a computer, I guess you pretty much can do

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<v Speaker 2>what you want. We'll be right back on Nightside. Got

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of lines at six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty, and got one line in six one, seven, nine, three, one,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty Maria from Plymouth. She's not a first time caller.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back at the at the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the break, we'll have Maria from Plymouth coming back on

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<v Speaker 2>Nightside on a Friday night. A little cooler tonight than

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<v Speaker 2>it was earlier this week, so we're kind of slowing

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<v Speaker 2>it down here. It will be in the twentieth hour

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<v Speaker 2>in a few minutes, coming back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside with Dan Ray, Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the Phones is go to Maria in Plymouth. Maria,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back. How are you welcome to Nightside?

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<v Speaker 8>Hi?

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<v Speaker 9>Dan, how's going.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going great? Thanks so much for calling in your

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on any of all of the Supreme Court decisions today.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, a couple of things, the one about the kids

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<v Speaker 9>wanting to have the l g V T Q X

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<v Speaker 9>y Z in the schools. The I'm just curious that

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<v Speaker 9>those same people would be like, Okay, hey, they can

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<v Speaker 9>have kids can have Bible stories in there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well no, yeah, no, no, that they would

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<v Speaker 2>they would not they would not allow Bible stories because

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<v Speaker 2>that would be religious religious based. I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, uh, I'm and they.

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<v Speaker 9>Haven't been allowing them, so I don't see how they're

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<v Speaker 9>you know, it's allow this.

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<v Speaker 2>And well it's it's it's it's parental it's parental rights.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you, it's parental rights. If you your

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<v Speaker 2>kid is in elementary school and he's said he or

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<v Speaker 2>she's six or seven years old, just because you're sending

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<v Speaker 2>now again, the argument was, well, if you don't like

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<v Speaker 2>the public school curriculum, said your kid to a private school.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not fair, that's not fair. And so I think

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<v Speaker 2>that decision was the right decision today. No, junior high

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<v Speaker 2>school is different, not fair different. You know, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>point when they get to sixth, seventh, eighth grade, they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to know about most of that stuff anyway, and

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<v Speaker 2>if they choose, if and.

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<v Speaker 9>They're going to read what they choose, if they've actually

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<v Speaker 9>been taught to read.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's another problem. Which when they get to that point,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a separate problem. Whether they can't read.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you know, and the second part I had was

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<v Speaker 9>about the dissenting opinion the Son of Year. There she

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<v Speaker 9>had said that it was being an open invitation for

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<v Speaker 9>the government to bypass the constitution. So that's a government,

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<v Speaker 9>she meaning just the executive branch or she's talking about

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<v Speaker 9>the legislative branch or.

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<v Speaker 2>The I think that would be. I haven't read her descent,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm sure she was talking about the president. And

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<v Speaker 2>yet if it was the president that she agreed with,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the problem. It's so difficult to separate the politics

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<v Speaker 2>from the law. I think legally that's a sound decision today.

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<v Speaker 2>But in order to be consistent when there's a democratic

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<v Speaker 2>president who wants to put through some you know, executive

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<v Speaker 2>order that I'm not happy about, I kind turn around

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<v Speaker 2>and say, well, let's get some judge to issue a

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<v Speaker 2>nationwide injunction. That's what we're talking about the extent. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think the principal should apply either way.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, let's say they If they do that, I don't

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<v Speaker 9>understand how it's possible because the president, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 9>senators and representatives also, But I mean he swears to

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<v Speaker 9>uphold the Constitution of the United States, whatever that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, I.

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<v Speaker 9>Would at some point they would have to change the

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<v Speaker 9>constitution if they want, if that's the way they want

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<v Speaker 9>to go about it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, I think you're overthinking. If there

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<v Speaker 2>was a piece of legislation that Congress passed and a

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<v Speaker 2>president signed, unless it was inherently unconstitutional. If they if

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<v Speaker 2>let us say, Congress passed the law and the president

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<v Speaker 2>signed it that said black people have lost the right

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<v Speaker 2>to vote, that's patently unconstitutional. Uh, the judicial, the judiciary

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<v Speaker 2>would take precedents and that would be ruled unconstitutional. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to get too deep into the weeds here,

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<v Speaker 2>but just I think it was the right decision today.

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<v Speaker 2>Irrespective of whether it's liberal judges curtailing a Republican president

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<v Speaker 2>or conservative judges curtailing a democratic president, they should have

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<v Speaker 2>a right to exercise their their authority.

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<v Speaker 9>I want to get one morement. It's like the Karen

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<v Speaker 9>Reid thing is like, you know, would you keep I'm

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<v Speaker 9>back and forth to the court. It's just ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Good decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I'm not going to mix Karen reading with this.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to get one more in. Thanks, Thanks, Maria,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you very much. Julia in reading You're a little late,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've got I got some time for you, Julia, go.

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<v Speaker 8>Right ahead, Oh, thank you. Hi. So I wanted to

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<v Speaker 8>just comment on the decisions today. So sure, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I think that you're absolutely right that what's going to

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<v Speaker 8>happen is we are going to have a democratic president. Oh,

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<v Speaker 8>we're going to have a socialist president one of these days.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope not. I hope not.

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<v Speaker 8>Go ahead, you hope not. I I am not in

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<v Speaker 8>of that same mind. So we're going to have a

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<v Speaker 8>democratic president, let's ray, and he's going to decide that

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<v Speaker 8>LGBT is absolutely fine, and he's going to make some

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<v Speaker 8>decisions and people are going to hate it, and and

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<v Speaker 8>all the Republicans are going to hate it, right, and

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<v Speaker 8>they're going to want to do the same exact thing

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<v Speaker 8>to a judge that is politically swayed towards the Republicans. Yes,

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<v Speaker 8>and so I think what we're gonna do is play whackabab.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, this country is gonna play whack a ball.

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<v Speaker 8>It depends on right.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think I think that. But Julia, Julia, I

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<v Speaker 2>think what this does is it says to future presidents,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna you're gonna have some you can you know,

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<v Speaker 2>do your executive orders. Uh, and you'll be able. You

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<v Speaker 2>you'll have less harassment from judges who are who are

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<v Speaker 2>ideologically opposed to you. So I think this this gives

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<v Speaker 2>the president, whoever the president is a little more political

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<v Speaker 2>level room, and I think that's a good thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>there may be something that some president does that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to disagree with them. However, I think from a

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<v Speaker 2>purely procedural point of view, we cannot tie the hands

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<v Speaker 2>of presidents. If presidents do things that are patently unconstitutional,

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<v Speaker 2>then they they will be create tied. Julia, I hate

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you, but I'm flat out of time. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you called my show before? Is this your first time?

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<v Speaker 8>It's time?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we want to give you out of applause, but

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<v Speaker 2>I also want to encourage you to please call back

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<v Speaker 2>and call a little earlier. I think we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have some great conversations. We might agree or disagree, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think there'll be great conversations. Thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 2>were welcome.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to you soon. Have a great weekend. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>we are done with this hour. We're coming back on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side, and I want stories of something good

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<v Speaker 2>that happened to you this week. Maybe a story of

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<v Speaker 2>someone who helped you or someone assisted you. I will

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<v Speaker 2>explain what I mean right after the eleven o'clock News