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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, here's Bill Handle.
Speaker 3: Good morning, everybody, go handle here, morning crowd. It is
Speaker 3: a Tuesday, January fourteen, as we look at.
Speaker 4: The fires hopefully yeah, we've got another fire weather.
Speaker 3: Event.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately it's happening today through tomorrow, so we'll be talking
Speaker 4: a little bit about that and hopefully we'll be talking
Speaker 4: about how it's not happening. So in the meantime, let
Speaker 4: me say hello, Amy, good morning.
Speaker 5: Good morning.
Speaker 2: Bill.
Speaker 3: And Neil is back today. Good morning, Neil, Hey buddy,
Speaker 3: and they're god good, good, good good. I don't care.
Speaker 4: Cono there you are. And and producer extraordinaire Hello Bill.
Speaker 4: Hello Chris Berry. I don't know if you guys know
Speaker 4: who is one of the senior senior people here at
Speaker 4: iHeart who's with us for a while. And he came
Speaker 4: into the studio just before we went on the air
Speaker 4: and said, Bill, I'd like to take the Morning crew
Speaker 4: to lunch or brunch after the show on Thursday to
Speaker 4: thank you guys for the great work you're doing. And
Speaker 4: I said, why would I want to have lunch with
Speaker 4: these people. I see them every day. Now, don't do
Speaker 4: that to me. So there's a very good chance.
Speaker 2: That will be going without you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you're going to order something to
Speaker 4: go and drop it off.
Speaker 2: So you picked the place, Neil. Yeah, who the hell
Speaker 2: wants to hang out with the handle?
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4: So anyway, and this has been here like twenty four
Speaker 4: to seven dealing with this with the news.
Speaker 3: So and he runs. I'm trying to remember what he does.
Speaker 4: Chris, You like you run all the kiosks in the
Speaker 4: office buildings that iHeart is in, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I counted the coffee. Yeah, I keep the coffee
Speaker 2: yeah machine going.
Speaker 5: I would like another cup please?
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: You know what I'll do Next time Pittman comes into
Speaker 4: the studio, which he does on occasion, I'm going to
Speaker 4: ask him that question. Do you mind getting me a
Speaker 4: cup of coffee?
Speaker 3: Chris? You work with pittnamit send Berry over to get it.
Speaker 3: He probably will. All right, hello to everybody.
Speaker 4: We're gonna do some offshoots of the fire story, the fire,
Speaker 4: of course, being by far the biggest story of well
Speaker 4: in terms of fires in the last I don't know decade.
Speaker 4: Here the worst fire in Southern California history. And we
Speaker 4: don't have to go through talking about the big and
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to go through talking about the complete
Speaker 4: decimation of Southern California. I mean, we've gone through that,
Speaker 4: So we're gonna do is at seven o'clock talk about
Speaker 4: how one of the problems with the fire is insurance
Speaker 4: is not expensive enough. And I know that sounds counterintuitive,
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna tell you explain that to you. And
Speaker 4: then someone from the National Weather Service is gonna explain
Speaker 4: how this Santa Anna is very different from other Santa
Speaker 4: Anna wins and I think we're gonna grab someone, and
Speaker 4: I know you're grabbing someone, and but I want it
Speaker 4: to be someone of the Jewish faith. Why is this
Speaker 4: Santa Anna different than other Santa ANDAs that's a passover resference,
Speaker 4: nobody's gonna get that. Yeah, I know, why is this
Speaker 4: night different another night's? Okay, you're right, no one is.
Speaker 4: That's a little obscure. And then there's an organization that
Speaker 4: actually is flying pets out of Southern California to other shelters.
Speaker 4: It's an airline that flies pets out to make room
Speaker 4: for him it's a lot of stuff going on, and
Speaker 4: then I know I'm giving you the highlight of the show,
Speaker 4: but I'm going to lay out what we're going to have.
Speaker 4: My friend Chuck Lovers, who is or was with La
Speaker 4: County Fire for thirty something years. You know the story
Speaker 4: about the incarcerated firefighters, the prisoners who are fighting the fires.
Speaker 3: There's some six.
Speaker 4: Hundred of them or nine hundred of them out on
Speaker 4: the fire line. He ran those crews for decades, that's
Speaker 4: what he did. So we're going to get an inside
Speaker 4: view of how that prison program works and the controversy.
Speaker 4: And there are people that, oh my god, you can't
Speaker 4: do that to prisoners, leave me alone. They don't make
Speaker 4: enough money. They're prisoners. So that's what's going on. So
Speaker 4: lots and lots of stuff. So in the meantime, let's
Speaker 4: do it, guys. Let's start with handle on the news
Speaker 4: on this twonesday morning with Amy Neil and me lead. Sorry, well,
Speaker 4: we've got two days of winds again, life threatening winds,
Speaker 4: gusts up to seventy eighty miles an hour coming in. Amy,
Speaker 4: let me defer to you because you're covering this more
Speaker 4: so than I am. Because you're in front of that
Speaker 4: computer in the news, What are we looking at in
Speaker 4: terms of wind speed and when.
Speaker 7: The strongest of the winds are expected between now and
Speaker 7: tomorrow at noon. The highest danger for winds this time
Speaker 7: have shifted a little bit. It's not for the Malibu area,
Speaker 7: but it's in western Los Angeles County and Ventura County,
Speaker 7: eastern Ventura County, So like the Santa Clarita area and
Speaker 7: that I five and fourteen corridors, those are going to
Speaker 7: be particularly hard hit by the winds expected to gust
Speaker 7: fifty five to seventy miles per hour.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's to be tough, that is absolutely.
Speaker 4: If a fire starts and you have seventy mile an
Speaker 4: hour winds, you're back to We're back to where we
Speaker 4: were where the firefighters just have no chance, zero chance
Speaker 4: of containing a fire like that once it ignites. And
Speaker 4: so hopefully after this point. There was one fire that
Speaker 4: came out that started, but the firefighters were able to
Speaker 4: tackle that and bring it down, and that's the only chance.
Speaker 4: Now firefighters have a chance. The only chance they have
Speaker 4: to put out the fire is getting it very early.
Speaker 4: And that's the policy change that has happened over the
Speaker 4: last few years is the firefighting teams and I'm talking
Speaker 4: about aircraft two small fires, they go out and attack
Speaker 4: it instantly, and that's to be the change.
Speaker 7: And the good news is that unlike when the fire
Speaker 7: started last week, there's about ten thousand firefighters hanging out
Speaker 7: just waiting for those fires to start.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that is the question that I have, and
Speaker 4: that is we didn't anticipate these fires. We didn't anticipate
Speaker 4: the extent and the ferocity of these fires. And the
Speaker 4: only answer is to have thousands of firefighters waiting in
Speaker 4: the wings, hundreds of airplanes waiting in the wings. What
Speaker 4: was in an interview yesterday with I think it was
Speaker 4: on the national news I think it was ABC, where
Speaker 4: the chief LA Fire Department was asked about how these
Speaker 4: fires got out of control and how much equipment be needed,
Speaker 4: and he said, in your normal fire, normal single single
Speaker 4: home or business fire, right one building, they send out
Speaker 4: three fire engines.
Speaker 3: Typically in order to make this have.
Speaker 4: Gone away, they would need twenty six thousand pieces of
Speaker 4: firefighting equipment.
Speaker 3: That's how you control this fire. And it still wouldn't
Speaker 3: have happened.
Speaker 4: And he said, we still would have no chance to
Speaker 4: do it because the fire was moving at such a
Speaker 4: rapid rate.
Speaker 3: You couldn't out run the fire. You couldn't go at speed.
Speaker 4: And outrun this fire. It was going so quickly with
Speaker 4: one hundred mile an hour winds. But to make a
Speaker 4: good road, we need twenty six thousand pieces of equipment,
Speaker 4: and we need thousands of firefighters waiting by the wings.
Speaker 3: Okay, how reasonable is that. We're going to talk a.
Speaker 4: Little bit more about one of the reasons we have
Speaker 4: so many fires and how we're so fire prone. Is
Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you later on, actually at seven
Speaker 4: o'clock why insurance is not expensive enough. That's our downfall.
Speaker 4: I know, I love this, I love this topic all right, making.
Speaker 7: Fast work of a fire cruise rapidly got a handle
Speaker 7: on it. Had another fire that broke out just last night.
Speaker 7: It broke it started an Oxnard near the River Ridge
Speaker 7: golf Course. Throughout eight o'clock there was an evacuation order listed,
Speaker 7: but they said that no homes were in danger of
Speaker 7: being destroyed. But the fire has been confined to a
Speaker 7: river bet and it was stopped at about fifty six acres,
Speaker 7: still not showing atainment, but they've stopped the forward progress
Speaker 7: of it.
Speaker 8: All right, what a difference DA makes? Hey, Los Angeles,
Speaker 8: see what I did there? Well, Angels County District Attorney
Speaker 8: Nathan Hawkman, God bless him, announced a number of charges
Speaker 8: against nine suspected looters and an alleged arsonist who isn't
Speaker 8: tied to any of these fires. But this was just
Speaker 8: over the past week as these wildfires raged throughout our
Speaker 8: beloved city here. So the charges for the alleged looters
Speaker 8: are mostly residential Burgley, including I guess one of them
Speaker 8: walked away with an Emmy Award from one of the
Speaker 8: residents who lived in Pacivic Palisades. Several of those rested
Speaker 8: have previous felony convictions.
Speaker 2: Oh my, I'm so suprised.
Speaker 5: Hey, then Emmy's worth one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Is it really? Yeah?
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 5: Oh wait, no, it's not.
Speaker 7: It costs a few h undred dollars to make, but
Speaker 7: if it were made of solid gold, it would be
Speaker 7: worth one hundred and.
Speaker 3: Fifty that's yeah, But some of them are.
Speaker 4: When you look at some of the Academy awards that
Speaker 4: have been sold, they've gone for millions of dollars for
Speaker 4: iconic films, iconic scripts, they have literally gone for a
Speaker 4: zillion dollars.
Speaker 8: That's what I was going to say, that it's continued
Speaker 8: upon what it was and where. But they're illegal to reproduce.
Speaker 3: So oh yeah, I'm sure they're copyrighted.
Speaker 4: By the way, his defense is going to be best
Speaker 4: performance for someone impersonating a burglar.
Speaker 3: On television. Okay, So yeah, it was covered on TV,
Speaker 3: you know. Okay.
Speaker 7: Governor Newsom wants to jump start recovery efforts for the
Speaker 7: wildfires with two and a half billion dollars. He expanded
Speaker 7: his legislative session agenda that is focused on Trump proofing
Speaker 7: California to include the response and recovery funding for the fires.
Speaker 4: Yesterday, who was it that said yes to amy one
Speaker 4: of the new Trump folks coming in saying that we
Speaker 4: will go ahead and give federal money. Adam Schiff was
Speaker 4: being interviewed and he said that the Trump administration said
Speaker 4: they will give federal money to California if certain conditions
Speaker 4: are met. And he said, there's never been another time
Speaker 4: where Fed's have said, sure, we'll give disaster relief, but
Speaker 4: here are the conditions that we want for disaster relief. So,
Speaker 4: I mean, the war has already been declared between California
Speaker 4: and Trump.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's going to be a four year battle.
Speaker 3: We know that.
Speaker 4: And usually the vast amount of money that comes in
Speaker 4: for these kinds of disasters is federal money.
Speaker 2: So there, yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 8: Homeowners and renters who lost their homes in the EAT
Speaker 8: and fire are now suing Southern California.
Speaker 2: Edison saw this coming, So you had at.
Speaker 8: Least five lawsuits were filed just yesterday alleging that the
Speaker 8: company failed to de energize all of its electrical equipment
Speaker 8: despite red flag warnings issued by the National Weather Service.
Speaker 4: So well, see that video that was taken early early
Speaker 4: on in the Palisades fire, just when it started, and
Speaker 4: a couple of homeowners took a video where it looks
Speaker 4: like a fire was starting at the base of a
Speaker 4: transmission tower. Yeah, and we don't know yet if the
Speaker 4: fire had gone there or started there, and whether it
Speaker 4: did have anything to do with the power grid. But
Speaker 4: already the lawsuits have been filed even before we know,
Speaker 4: even before the investigation.
Speaker 3: Is even begun. So we'll see if PG and E
Speaker 3: gets nailed for this.
Speaker 8: Or no.
Speaker 4: Southern California Edison, I think that was the utility, which
Speaker 4: was not touched by the PG and E settlement. You know,
Speaker 4: PG and E ended up paying billions of dollars and
Speaker 4: was convicted. The corporation was convicted of criminal activity because
Speaker 4: his power lines went down and sparked what was the
Speaker 4: last big fire? Whatever it was sparked that maybe it
Speaker 4: was the was it the campfire that it sparked?
Speaker 3: And I don't know.
Speaker 7: A very lucky man's luck has run out. The guy
Speaker 7: who won the largest ever powerball jackpot is Edwin Castro.
Speaker 7: He won the two billion dollar jackpot in twenty twenty
Speaker 7: three and promptly used some of his money to buy homes.
Speaker 7: He bought a home in Malibu, won an Altadena, and
Speaker 7: another one in the Hollywood Hills. Two of those homes
Speaker 7: were in evacuation zones. The third in Palisades burned to
Speaker 7: the ground.
Speaker 4: I want to point something out as I read this story,
Speaker 4: and that is it's so.
Speaker 3: Surprised that he would buy three homes.
Speaker 4: Kind of interesting that one in Palisades, what an Altadena,
Speaker 4: and then a third in the Hollywood Hills.
Speaker 5: Or fires started, Yeah, there was the fire in the
Speaker 5: Hollywood Hills last week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. He must have burned the place down right.
Speaker 4: But I want you to notice, usually when someone buys
Speaker 4: a home. Remember one of the Powerball winners bought a
Speaker 4: home in Malibu for thirty twenty three or twenty five
Speaker 4: million dollars.
Speaker 3: Look at the cost of these homes.
Speaker 4: One is three point eight million dollars, another one is
Speaker 4: what two points something million dollars. Considering someone won a
Speaker 4: billion dollars, these are very modest homes.
Speaker 3: It just occurred to me.
Speaker 4: If I want a billion dollars, I wouldn't be built.
Speaker 4: I would buy a four million dollar home. I'd buy
Speaker 4: a forty million dollar home, which is what everybody does.
Speaker 2: He has a twenty five point five million dollar mansion.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's besides the point. That's the one he
Speaker 4: lives in. So maybe these were rentals.
Speaker 2: Those were for his help.
Speaker 4: Could be, but I just noticed that he I brought
Speaker 4: fairly modest homes, so he's living under his means with
Speaker 4: a twenty five million dollar home.
Speaker 3: Tom Hanks lost his house, didn't he do? I have
Speaker 3: that right.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if he lost it or if it
Speaker 5: was in the fire.
Speaker 4: Was noted that twenty six million dollar home, so he
Speaker 4: gets paid more than scale.
Speaker 3: I assume for his pictures.
Speaker 2: He does, okay, all right.
Speaker 8: Vladimir Zelenski said that he may send Ukrainian firefighters if needed,
Speaker 8: to help battle the blazes going on here in California.
Speaker 8: This was after Donald Trump Junior dragged the LA of
Speaker 8: Los Angeles County Fire Department for donating some supplies to
Speaker 8: Ukraine's defense.
Speaker 2: So just on Sunday.
Speaker 4: During the war, Yeah, when the war in Ukraine broke out,
Speaker 4: they had obviously firefighters there to put out the fires
Speaker 4: because artillery drones were hitting parts of Ukraine, and fire
Speaker 4: department donated hoses, nozzles, turnouts, helmets, body armor, personal protective
Speaker 4: equipment to help Ukraine.
Speaker 3: And they're getting nailed for it.
Speaker 4: Gee, if they'd been here, if that equipment had been here,
Speaker 4: the fires would have either been stopped or certainly would
Speaker 4: have done as much damage.
Speaker 3: I mean, complete crap all. We're hearing a lot of that.
Speaker 4: If Karen Vass had been on site, the fires wouldn't
Speaker 4: be as bad.
Speaker 2: You think everything's been done right with these.
Speaker 4: Fires, No, but what I think is happening. If everything
Speaker 4: had been done right, it wouldn't have helped.
Speaker 3: That's all. These fires were so extraordinary, were.
Speaker 4: So so vicious, so all encompassing, it did not matter.
Speaker 4: So you have one more reservoir, right that should have
Speaker 4: been full. It would have done nothing.
Speaker 3: Nothing.
Speaker 2: You're high that many gallons.
Speaker 3: That is.
Speaker 4: There was no water pressure up at the top of
Speaker 4: some of these hills.
Speaker 3: That's what caused that.
Speaker 8: You there was two people on the planet to think
Speaker 8: that nothing could be done.
Speaker 3: Nothing could be done.
Speaker 4: And by the way, you're right, there's only three of us,
Speaker 4: one being the chief of the LA Fire Department.
Speaker 2: No, that's not what was said.
Speaker 8: You also have the chief saying that money would have
Speaker 8: helped that other resources.
Speaker 3: Really pull out, Yeah, pull that out.
Speaker 4: I'd love to see that because from what I understand, Neil,
Speaker 4: it's nothing would have helped this fire.
Speaker 2: What we should do now, we can't fight them.
Speaker 4: They did let those homes burn because they couldn't stop them.
Speaker 4: They sat and watched those homes burn. They couldn't stop it.
Speaker 4: They couldn't now run the fire before.
Speaker 8: There's so much that could have been done differently, like
Speaker 8: what and the firefighters doing an amazing john like what Neil.
Speaker 2: Resources one.
Speaker 8: We didn't even have uh, we didn't even have traffic
Speaker 8: cops showing where people were to go during the.
Speaker 3: Time, Bring traffic everybody.
Speaker 4: The traffic cops would have been part of the group
Speaker 4: that was just getting the hell out of Dodge as
Speaker 4: quickly as possible.
Speaker 3: No one could stay in those areas.
Speaker 8: Area for decades, and I have seen them controlled traffic
Speaker 8: for the Not in.
Speaker 4: A fire like this, Neil, Not in this kind of fire.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, Neil, for everything I have read and
Speaker 4: heard and saw, this fire was so intense, moving at
Speaker 4: such a rapid pace.
Speaker 3: These were one.
Speaker 4: Hundred mile an hour wins Neil, How do you stop it?
Speaker 4: The fire chief said, Based on what I said earlier,
Speaker 4: three fire units per house fire is typically what happens.
Speaker 4: We would have needed twenty six thousand of these fire units.
Speaker 4: And even then, the fire moves too quickly that.
Speaker 2: At its peak blaze.
Speaker 8: That's assuming that it would have gotten to its peak blaze.
Speaker 3: It was untenable. It was you're right, you're right.
Speaker 4: Had had we had you're right, had we had twenty thousand,
Speaker 4: had we had twenty thousand pieces of equipment at exactly
Speaker 4: those places where we needed, we probably could have stopped it.
Speaker 4: Had we had several hundred more airplanes. Oh no, you
Speaker 4: couldn't have airplanes because the winds were too high. Well,
Speaker 4: had we invented airplanes that could fly in one hundred
Speaker 4: mile an hour wins, that would have helped Neil, You're
Speaker 4: out of your mind. Communail, you're out of your mind.
Speaker 4: Go back to your facility.
Speaker 5: Nothing short of criminal.
Speaker 7: Jack Smith's report on his investigation into President elect Trump
Speaker 7: and his efforts to overturn the twenty twenty election has
Speaker 7: been released. Smith's team states, in no uncertain terms they
Speaker 7: believed Trump criminally attempted to subvert the will of the
Speaker 7: people and overturn election results. And I believe Jack Smith
Speaker 7: said he thinks he would have got a conviction.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he cited a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 4: Pressure on state officials, We know that who he called,
Speaker 4: We have that, we have that phone call, the fraudigal
Speaker 4: elect plan, the pressure on Vice President Mike Spence not
Speaker 4: to certify the riot on January sixth, and Jack Smiths
Speaker 4: said that this is all criminal, which a lot of
Speaker 4: us thought it was, and trying to subvert the election.
Speaker 4: What I don't understand is why President Trump try to
Speaker 4: stop this from being released so much because it proves to.
Speaker 3: Him and his followers that all this was a witch hunt.
Speaker 4: You think he would just wear it as a badge
Speaker 4: of honor instead of fighting fighting, fighting fighting to release
Speaker 4: the report, so it was released a week before he
Speaker 4: takes office.
Speaker 2: Weird times. Let's hope this goes through.
Speaker 8: Hamas is expected to release thirty three hostages during the
Speaker 8: first phase of an emerging ceasefire agreement to be finalized
Speaker 8: by negotiators there in Doha. To Israeli officials are the
Speaker 8: ones backing this the statement first positive sign we've seen
Speaker 8: in a long time, months and months that a truce
Speaker 8: between Israel and themas war may be in sight.
Speaker 4: I have a question about this because Donald Trump has
Speaker 4: said if a deal is not cut before I take office,
Speaker 4: all hell is going to break loose in the Middle East.
Speaker 3: How much of that.
Speaker 4: Influenced Hamas and Israel because we know that happened before
Speaker 4: with Ronald Reagan and the return of the American hostages
Speaker 4: before Ronald Reagan took office at the end of the
Speaker 4: Carter administration, and Ronald Reagan was rightly given credit for
Speaker 4: speeding the process up because the Iranians were frightened of
Speaker 4: what was happening or what would happen if the hostages
Speaker 4: weren't returned, I wonder if Hamas was at all influenced
Speaker 4: by Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: I think yes, I think he would have something to
Speaker 3: do with it. If Trump.
Speaker 4: I mean, there were working, working, working, and they were
Speaker 4: getting closer and closer. But I don't think this would
Speaker 4: have wrapped up this week. But for Donald Trump being
Speaker 4: sworn in.
Speaker 8: I think you're probably right. He's an interesting variable that
Speaker 8: they are afraid of.
Speaker 2: I can imagine.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's and he is so pro ISRAELI I mean,
Speaker 4: the guy makes no bones about it. There is no
Speaker 4: there's no middle ground, none of that. He is pro Israel,
Speaker 4: and Hamas knows that. Although I don't know how much
Speaker 4: more hell could break out in the Middle East, that's happening.
Speaker 7: Now nothing short of criminal again. Special Counsel David Weiss
Speaker 7: slammed President Biden's characterization of his investigation. I remember Biden
Speaker 7: called Weiss's investigation into Hunter Biden raw politics when he
Speaker 7: pardoned his son. Weiss's prosecutors say they examined Hunter biden
Speaker 7: years of drug and alcohol abuse, is controversial, foreign business dealings,
Speaker 7: and procurement of a gun in twenty eighteen. Said his
Speaker 7: work was thorough, impartial, and nonpartisan. And said other presidents
Speaker 7: have pardon family members, but in doing so, none have
Speaker 7: taken the occasion as an opportunity to malign the public
Speaker 7: servants at the Department of Justice based on solely false
Speaker 7: ap Yeah.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Especially effectively.
Speaker 4: What Biden is saying is it was part of his
Speaker 4: view of the deep state that it was politics that
Speaker 4: did it, and Why said no, no, this is what
Speaker 4: we do. This is looking at it objectively. We do
Speaker 4: not politicize investigations. So you've got President Biden joining the
Speaker 4: fray of attacking the law enforcement agencies.
Speaker 3: And investigative agencies.
Speaker 4: In the United States, you know when it seems to
Speaker 4: go against you, And obviously Biden is guilty of this too.
Speaker 3: It's a political witch hunt.
Speaker 4: That's what he said, basically, is the attack the case
Speaker 4: against his son was effectively a political witch hunt. Without
Speaker 4: using those words, welcome to the modern era of politics.
Speaker 8: Oh and all the Democrats that are upset about the
Speaker 8: stolen the stolen election.
Speaker 2: That is going on and that Trump won.
Speaker 3: Go figure, I haven't heard that very.
Speaker 2: Much social media, my friend.
Speaker 4: Well media is kind of crazy, but I the stolen election,
Speaker 4: by the way, was the majority of Republicans in this country,
Speaker 4: seventy five percent of registered Republicans said the election was stolen.
Speaker 3: When Biden was sworn in.
Speaker 4: You're not going to see seventy five percent of Democrats
Speaker 4: out there saying the estelle the election was stolen. I
Speaker 4: believe that Republicans are crazy when they thought the election
Speaker 4: was stolen. I think the Democrats who say this election
Speaker 4: was stolen are just as nuts. Hey, Bob, Hi, why
Speaker 4: don't we just count the votes to see who ends that?
Speaker 2: Whatever happened to that?
Speaker 3: Is that no longer part of our election cycle.
Speaker 8: I don't believe in RS and d's. I believe people
Speaker 8: are just crazy.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good point.
Speaker 8: Well, the days of hanging out or using the restroom
Speaker 8: at Starbucks have gone the way of the Dodo bird
Speaker 8: unless you buy something. They folks at Starbucks said yesterday
Speaker 8: that they're reversing a policy that invited everyone into its
Speaker 8: stores a new code of conduct.
Speaker 2: Who would have thought that'd.
Speaker 8: Go bonkers wrong here in southern California, but it did.
Speaker 8: They will be posted in all company owned North American
Speaker 8: stores banning you know, bans discrimination or harashment, harassment of people,
Speaker 8: consumption ab outside alcohol.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's I mean that's typical. But you have
Speaker 4: gone into Starbucks. I have occasionally, and they's someone sitting
Speaker 4: in the computer for two hours and having one cup
Speaker 4: of coffe.
Speaker 2: Well, they're saying where this came from?
Speaker 8: Back in twenty eighteen, you had two black men that
Speaker 8: were arrested in the Philadelphia Starbucks. They were having a
Speaker 8: business meeting, they weren't paying for anything, and they were
Speaker 8: arrested pretty horrifically if I remember.
Speaker 2: And so then Starbucks is like, come one, come all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's cave.
Speaker 4: Now they're going back to you've got to buy something
Speaker 4: in order to sit here for hours and hours, and
Speaker 4: maybe there's a limitation on that. What I love about
Speaker 4: this story is that Starbucks. Starbucks has said employees are
Speaker 4: going to receive training on enforcing the new policy. Okay,
Speaker 4: training other than hey you get out. How much more
Speaker 4: training do you need?
Speaker 2: No buy e, no pe bye e.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm I gonna go there. I would get in
Speaker 3: trouble if I went in that direction.
Speaker 2: Okay, moving on, Hell are you even talking about?
Speaker 3: Never mind?
Speaker 7: DEI is aok with app l E. Apple's board of
Speaker 7: directors has recommended shareholders vote against a conservative think tanks
Speaker 7: proposal to consider scrapping Apple's DEI or diversity equity and
Speaker 7: includes inclusion initiatives. The National Center for Public Policy Research
Speaker 7: notified Apple in September that it intends to submit the
Speaker 7: anti DEA DEI proposal at Apple's annual shareholder meeting February
Speaker 7: twenty fifth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they'll be a shareholder. You you can do
Speaker 4: it with one share standing up and making this motion.
Speaker 4: And Apple is saying we're the board said we're opposing that. Now,
Speaker 4: let me ask you a question in terms of inclusion
Speaker 4: and diversity. The fact that Tim Cook, who has been
Speaker 4: the CEO of Apple since twenty eleven, the fact that
Speaker 4: he is gay, and this would be considered a diversity
Speaker 4: obviously part of it is anti gay. How much of
Speaker 4: it do you think it is him being gay have
Speaker 4: to do with Apple's official position. I'm questioning it. I
Speaker 4: don't know the answer. By the way, I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Why would that have to do with it?
Speaker 3: Because it is this can be considered an anti gay statement.
Speaker 4: No more diversity, right, we want we want to eliminate
Speaker 4: or decrease the diversity programs that Apple has. Well in
Speaker 4: the decreasing diversity. Part of diversity is the LGBTQ community.
Speaker 4: And I'm asking, is it because Tim Cook is gay
Speaker 4: that has any influence my guests, not particularly.
Speaker 3: Apple's been doing this for a long time.
Speaker 4: The first diversity program was nineteen ninety three, way before Tim.
Speaker 3: Cook took over. So it's just a point. I want
Speaker 3: to make good point or bad point. I just want
Speaker 3: to bring something else into the mix.
Speaker 2: I think it's legitimate.
Speaker 4: All right, well, thank you. Don't accuse me of being
Speaker 4: anti gay here. I won't take it.
Speaker 8: You who have actually passed laws to help the gay community,
Speaker 8: that's true. Yeah, okay, all right. Uh, Supreme Court Justice
Speaker 8: are pondering, of course, the future of TikTok in the
Speaker 8: United States.
Speaker 2: We've all heard that. Well, guess what.
Speaker 8: You can't keep kids from their social media. You got
Speaker 8: a bunch of American social media users that have responded
Speaker 8: by moving to another alternative alternative that is basically translated
Speaker 8: to a little Red Book, but kids call it red note.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's actually I mean, the official name is uh
Speaker 4: moo gooo guy app.
Speaker 2: No, no, it's not.
Speaker 8: A hugely popular social media app in China. It means
Speaker 8: little Red Book. But like I said, the kids kind
Speaker 8: of abbreviate it and call it red note.
Speaker 3: What's the name of it.
Speaker 2: It's Jaiu Hongzhu Xiao hung Shu shah.
Speaker 3: It's a dish. You get a Panda Express.
Speaker 8: No, it actually means little Red book, unless you're eating
Speaker 8: little red books.
Speaker 5: Oh, I love Panda Express.
Speaker 3: So I had his Pan Express yesterday. I had it yesterday.
Speaker 4: It was very good. I had the bowl for the
Speaker 4: first time at panted Express.
Speaker 2: That explains your haircut.
Speaker 5: Okay, uh, Look who got a facelift.
Speaker 7: Walmart has given its logo its first facelift in nearly
Speaker 7: twenty years. The company is sixty one years old, and
Speaker 7: yesterday unveiled the refresh of its brand identity. And I've
Speaker 7: got the the the logo side by side. They look
Speaker 7: almost identical.
Speaker 3: Tell me if you could tell the difference.
Speaker 5: Well, one's got a fatter font.
Speaker 2: I uh, that's about it.
Speaker 5: The same.
Speaker 3: It's the same, just a little tiny bit fatter.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like going from aerial to aerial bold.
Speaker 8: I was a graphic designer for a bazillion years, used
Speaker 8: to make design corporate IDs and logos.
Speaker 2: I don't know the difference. Yeah, it looked like it.
Speaker 8: It looks like a pre holiday, post holiday, just a
Speaker 8: little chubbier.
Speaker 5: I want to know how much the graphic design company
Speaker 5: got paid for that.
Speaker 4: Look at the news with that great story when NBC
Speaker 4: came out with its new peacock and they spent a
Speaker 4: quarter of a million dollars with a graphic design.
Speaker 3: It turned out.
Speaker 4: That they hated They had to pay off a PBS
Speaker 4: station in Nebraska someplace that had come up with that
Speaker 4: years before, and they paid someone one hundred bucks for it.
Speaker 4: And it was the NBC, the new NBC peacock. Remember
Speaker 4: that story, Neil.
Speaker 8: Oh, Yeah, they referred to it as the big cock block.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, well, okay, we're gonna talk about that later
Speaker 4: on too.
Speaker 2: I can't remember something.
Speaker 4: No, but it was hilarious. I mean the fortune they
Speaker 4: spent on it to design that. It turned out it
Speaker 4: was already designed for one hundred dollars someplace else. Also,
Speaker 4: have you noticed and I like to look at various
Speaker 4: branding things, Uh Kia when they switched to their logo,
Speaker 4: I thought that was brilliant. By the way, the way
Speaker 4: their their letters are, the way they spell Kia and
Speaker 4: the designs are.
Speaker 2: Just all they got it. That's a beautiful logo.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 4: That's the point I'm making that they went to a
Speaker 4: logo that's just brilliant. All right, guys, we're done with
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