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<v Speaker 1>Ah, thank you WODDI here we are on a Monday night.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what's for dinner tonight? Because I got

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<v Speaker 1>an idea. I got an idea for you. What if

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<v Speaker 1>I told you that you could go to Plano and

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<v Speaker 1>get pizza the Dallas Morning News voters said is the

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<v Speaker 1>best in all of DFW. You could order pizza from anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>but why not go get what Dallas Morning News readers

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<v Speaker 1>are saying is the best pizzeria in all of Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Fort Worth. That's Andrew's American Pizza Kitchen. It's located on

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<v Speaker 1>Preston and Plano Parkway. Skin Wire folks flocking to Andrews, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're probably going there because of the same reason. I

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<v Speaker 1>went there last night. On the way home from the

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<v Speaker 1>mav game.

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<v Speaker 2>I stopped off at Andrews and I got three different

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<v Speaker 2>styles of pizza.

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<v Speaker 3>Ben think about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone in my family wanted something different, so we got

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<v Speaker 2>three different styles. They make it easy. They have five

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<v Speaker 2>different styles there. You gotta try the Dallas though. There's

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<v Speaker 2>the one that came from Picasso's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great.

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<v Speaker 2>They have great pasta, they have great pizza. They have

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<v Speaker 2>an awesome bar. I sat up at the bar and

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<v Speaker 2>drank a big german last.

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<v Speaker 1>Night, and you can do it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Andrew's American Pizza Kitchen right there at Preston

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<v Speaker 2>and Plano Parkway.

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<v Speaker 1>It is delicios. Man. All I can think of is

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<v Speaker 1>Shane Gillis doing Trump talking about the Mavericks. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I had recorded it.

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<v Speaker 3>He did.

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<v Speaker 1>That is his bit. He did it. Oh that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes just riffing. He guess what do you want?

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all want some Trump? Y'all want a little Trump. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do Trump. What are you gonna talk about it?

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<v Speaker 1>He goes here we are, He goes Luca, he's white.

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<v Speaker 1>We have the he's white. He's white. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about he's a white player. And we love that.

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<v Speaker 1>We love that he's white. He's so good. He's white,

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<v Speaker 1>the white Mavericks.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what he was saying to Mammonia Slovinian. She is, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>is that right? Slovinian?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually didn't realize that, and I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>my wife that brought it up the other day, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't think she's Slovenian. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's really only one true you know, famous super famous Slovenian.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Luca. And then we looked up.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, no, she's Slovenian, and I was like, so

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<v Speaker 2>Luca's more famous than the first lady in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>his Slovenian heritage.

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<v Speaker 3>I would think, I don't know, recovery beer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he needs recovery beer. All right, let's talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little sports, shall we, because the big news of the

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<v Speaker 1>day is that Mike McCarthy is out. I was shocked

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<v Speaker 1>that he was had a chance to stay. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>for sure he was going to be gone. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>for sure Jerry was so pissed earlier in the season

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<v Speaker 1>that he had a guy in mine and McCarthy was done.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Jerry tried to keep McCarthy and he and

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<v Speaker 1>then it looked like, oh, he's not letting McCarthy interview

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<v Speaker 1>with the Bears. Okay, he's declining that interview. He's denying

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<v Speaker 1>them permission to talk to him. That means he's staying.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought it was a foe gone conclusion. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of talked myself into okay, okay, staying that's the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing. And then they didn't get a deal done.

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<v Speaker 1>So the guy he wanted, Jerry Lowbauld. Jane Slater reported

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<v Speaker 1>that it was the number of years was the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So he wanted to keep him, but he didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to commit to him long term because he's not really

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<v Speaker 1>sold on him. But he was sold enough to try

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<v Speaker 1>to get a deal done and then couldn't get a

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<v Speaker 1>deal done. It is crazy. And so while he was

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<v Speaker 1>negotiating with McCarthy, he could not talk to any of

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<v Speaker 1>the assistants that are active in the playoffs because that

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<v Speaker 1>window he missed it last week waiting to talk to McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 1>So now he didn't talk to any of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>and he won't be able to talk to him now

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<v Speaker 1>until after the super.

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl, Yeah, a couple of weeks so, or until they're eliminated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or when those teams get eliminated.

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<v Speaker 2>But everybody's going to be waiting for Ben Jonson and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean some have already done it though, did it

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<v Speaker 2>last week?

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<v Speaker 3>That's the whole point.

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<v Speaker 1>If they interviewed with teams last week and they hit

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<v Speaker 1>it off and a team said, yep, that's our guy,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they had a great love connection and maybe those

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<v Speaker 1>deals are done deals and.

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry probably just thinks those guys will wait on me anyways,

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<v Speaker 4>if they really want to come here, yeah, and I'll

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<v Speaker 4>think someone who wants to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's it's messy. It is dysfunction at such

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<v Speaker 1>a high level. But none of us should be surprised anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>They have botched this, and so Mike McCarthy moves on

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<v Speaker 1>and the Cowboys now need a head coach.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well yeah, I mean I'm not like I've seen

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<v Speaker 4>like That's the number one takeaway I've kind of has

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<v Speaker 4>shocked me all today is everyone's like kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>mad at the Cowboys for how they've handled this. And

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<v Speaker 4>I do understand it because it's not probably the best

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<v Speaker 4>way to do it. But also it's like, who wanted

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<v Speaker 4>Mike back?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want Mike back. It's just really I think

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<v Speaker 2>for me, and we knew this already. I think if

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<v Speaker 2>they brought Mike McCarthy back, you could convince me in

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<v Speaker 2>some way that at least, even though it's flawed, they

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<v Speaker 2>have a plan. But to spend time making you think

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<v Speaker 2>they want Mike back and then to just part ways

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<v Speaker 2>a few hours before he can hit the open market

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<v Speaker 2>is just affirmation that no, they genuinely fly by the

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<v Speaker 2>seat of their pants. They probably have some loose ideas

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff they like. But if they we had a plan,

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<v Speaker 2>they would have executed that plan a week ago. We

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have spent a week doing all this crap. And

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<v Speaker 2>if these reports are true, there's indications that they did

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<v Speaker 2>have some conversation. And again, Jerry did say a week

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<v Speaker 2>ago that the hay is already in the barn. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what it is, So then why did you wait

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<v Speaker 2>a week? And I'm not buying the whole Well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a great marketing thing. I'm not buying that. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>because Mike. Why would Mike McCarthy go along with that?

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<v Speaker 2>What benefit does he get? He can go out there

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<v Speaker 2>last week say they're not talking to me at all

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<v Speaker 2>and they're not letting me talk to other teams. But

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't, And so this isn't to me. I agree wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't a case of like great marketing. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a case of they thought they were going to bring

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<v Speaker 2>Mike back and now they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been a marketing play if they did

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<v Speaker 1>bring him back, because it's like, let's just milk this,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get these But it wasn't that at all. Because

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to negotiate. But it honestly goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Jimmy Johnson thing, and it's when you know, Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>hired Switzer and it's like, man, any he could coach

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<v Speaker 1>this team. They don't value the job. They think they

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones pulling the strings. They're the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>make the difference, and the coach is the coach. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not a huge difference maker. They don't see any reason

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and pay a guy top of the

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<v Speaker 1>market or go get the biggest name. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>go get a guy who will carry their water to

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<v Speaker 1>a degree and deal with their uniquely weird organization. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a big time position. They don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it matters.

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<v Speaker 4>I've also seen a little bit of a sentiment of

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<v Speaker 4>like they if they would have just let Mike do

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<v Speaker 4>his thing, then things have been better. But dude, they

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<v Speaker 4>gave Mike the keys two years ago. Yeah, when Kellen

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<v Speaker 4>Moore hit the road. Now there's probably internal regret after

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<v Speaker 4>seeing Washington win last night against the Bucks, going, man,

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<v Speaker 4>if we would have just kept Dan Quinn.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I do think that's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I do think Jerry watched those games yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>and went Jesus because if they Kellen are succeeding, if

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<v Speaker 4>they kept.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Quinn, Dak would have been like, bring Kellen back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>dan Quinn already had the wherewithal the higher Kellen, so

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<v Speaker 2>that the top of that coach tree right there would

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<v Speaker 2>be what is running your team right now? Now the

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<v Speaker 2>injuries happened, They weren't going to get past the injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they could have put themselves in a position to

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<v Speaker 2>be you know, ten and seven or nine and eight

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that with better coaching, being more organized,

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<v Speaker 2>which wouldn't have been enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And stas off they set it out. They didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't do anything to help his coach.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's where we go like who wants the job?

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<v Speaker 4>And there's probably a ton of names. We talked about

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<v Speaker 4>him in a couple other segments. There are people who

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<v Speaker 4>are gonna want the job because it's the cowboy's job.

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<v Speaker 4>There are going to be people who make more sense.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a win now roster, though, which does not

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<v Speaker 4>always look like that based on the season we just watched, right,

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<v Speaker 4>but this is a team who needs to hire a

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<v Speaker 4>coach who's ready to win now, not a program builder.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's a smart thing, especially if you consider

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<v Speaker 4>that Jerry's eighty two years old. Yeah, I mean that matters,

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<v Speaker 4>and he can say it doesn't it does.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's weighing on him. They need to win fast,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what they do. I think it's the that

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have a plan. I would have had confidence

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<v Speaker 1>if they they were decisive and they had a plan

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<v Speaker 1>midway through the season and they were partner ways with

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy or they let's get this deal done with McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 1>This just shows they didn't have a guy. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a plan. They are winging it, and no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what they do from this point forward, it won't be

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<v Speaker 1>their Plan A, it'll be Plan B. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And it also just underscores that it's really been the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing for thirty years and it's not going to change.

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<v Speaker 2>And everybody knows it. And that's the thing. We all

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<v Speaker 2>know this, We've all talked this into the ground. But

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<v Speaker 2>when these things happen, they slap you in the face

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<v Speaker 2>and they remind you of just how hopeless the situation is.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they have enough talent to go. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you've got to give McCarthy credit for those three

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<v Speaker 2>big win seasons. That's not easy to do in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>But the bottom line is that when you watch the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>that's where coaching is completely magnified and you see those

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<v Speaker 2>decisions Like you say whatever you want about Jason Garrett,

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<v Speaker 2>I will forever remember him as the guy that panicked

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<v Speaker 2>more than the rookie quarterback and called that time out

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<v Speaker 2>for no reason to make sure that Aaron Rodgers had

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to beat you. That is so dumb, That

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<v Speaker 2>is so out of step with how people are winning

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<v Speaker 2>football games. Like watch the end of these games and look,

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<v Speaker 2>guys are on the seven yard line not going for

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<v Speaker 2>field goals, Like the game has changed and there's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>in the Cowboys organization that has changed in thirty years.

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<v Speaker 2>And we all know this, but it happens, and then

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<v Speaker 2>these things happen. It just reminds you, Wow, you really

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<v Speaker 2>are stuck with this, no matter how good the personnel.

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<v Speaker 1>Is and how is the team have a ten billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollar valuation? How are the most valuable team in sports?

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<v Speaker 1>Like do the Jets have a huge valuation? Dude? The

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<v Speaker 1>don't do anything in the postseason are they also worth

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<v Speaker 1>ten billion?

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<v Speaker 2>It's but it's Jerry deserves a lot of credit. But

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<v Speaker 2>the number one thing that Jerry deserves credit for is

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<v Speaker 2>seeing an incredible asset that was distressed by the Murkison family.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's and and then he took the industry that

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<v Speaker 2>of what we're talking about here, the groundwork was done

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<v Speaker 2>by tech shram. I mean, there's tons of iconography going

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<v Speaker 2>back to my childhood that the Cowboys, And that's why

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<v Speaker 2>Ben and I talk about these things that'll happen in

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys of twenty fourteen. That's because of the Cowboys of

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry saw that, and like, I can take that asset

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<v Speaker 2>and make it something spectacular.

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<v Speaker 1>But why don't people leave?

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't people go?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's why don't people bail everyone? They'll still have the

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<v Speaker 3>Because they are a top ten winning team over the

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<v Speaker 1>Years record wise.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and Jerry, I'll tell you that I'll go on

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<v Speaker 4>the highest winning percentage of the last fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks seventh or eighth. I mean, that's amazing. Can I

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<v Speaker 4>Cut McCarthy's some slack for a second? He's been in

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<v Speaker 4>my cross hairs for a long time? But would you

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<v Speaker 4>like to have Todd Bowles as your head coach? Because

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<v Speaker 4>I have to play you this interview from halftime. He's

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<v Speaker 4>his halftime interview. You know, how are we gonna stop

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<v Speaker 4>Jaden Daniels?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And on defense?

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<v Speaker 5>How do you limit Jaden Daniels? You gotta get them

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<v Speaker 5>in long third and longer yards. You gotta win first

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<v Speaker 1>Is right and we gotta cut that down thanks to.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what happened the directions?

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<v Speaker 1>Could I hear it again?

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<v Speaker 5>Long third and longer yards? You gotta win first down

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<v Speaker 5>and kid getting out of the pocket to his left,

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<v Speaker 1>The players. That way there, what coach?

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<v Speaker 4>What also can I get mad real quck? So last

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<v Speaker 4>December eighth. Okay, here's Mike Turco, righty, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>The duke for the division for the Chiefs the December eighth.

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<v Speaker 4>The Chiefs win the division when the kicker dongs it

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<v Speaker 4>off the uprights. And Turiko it's like he didn't go

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<v Speaker 4>to f in broadcasting school called it the doint for

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<v Speaker 4>for the division. But then back in life, you get

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<v Speaker 4>a second chance. Here's Tariko and Collinsworth last night the

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<v Speaker 4>zang Gonzaz the kicker for the Commanders. He's got massive OCD,

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<v Speaker 4>he's insane and he dogs it off the uprights. And

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<v Speaker 4>listen to how Tariko and Collinsworth handled this. I'm so

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<v Speaker 4>disappointed from thirty seven to send Washington to the Final eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Though Washington.

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<v Speaker 5>Around I.

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<v Speaker 6>Have seen it all now I even get a defensial dot.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like every time I still game, you'll go

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<v Speaker 1>Dong, it's a dong that doesn't sound like a doint.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like a dong.

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<v Speaker 6>You had your chance.

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<v Speaker 3>He's idiots.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you you did ten years ago with Al.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are we not going to talk about that kicker

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<v Speaker 2>just freaking out?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's god, man, dude, does he do that before every kick?

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<v Speaker 1>With his hair?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he couldn't figure out how to put his helmet

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<v Speaker 2>ones and the socks.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw that struggles with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but they were explaining the socks and shoes differently.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there were time. I don't think they knew until today.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh but his helmet thing, themes, its hair, that helmet

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you, Kevin,