Speaker 1: Ah, thank you WODDI here we are on a Monday night.
Speaker 1: Do you know what's for dinner tonight? Because I got
Speaker 1: an idea. I got an idea for you. What if
Speaker 1: I told you that you could go to Plano and
Speaker 1: get pizza the Dallas Morning News voters said is the
Speaker 1: best in all of DFW. You could order pizza from anywhere,
Speaker 1: but why not go get what Dallas Morning News readers
Speaker 1: are saying is the best pizzeria in all of Dallas
Speaker 1: Fort Worth. That's Andrew's American Pizza Kitchen. It's located on
Speaker 1: Preston and Plano Parkway. Skin Wire folks flocking to Andrews, Well,
Speaker 1: they're probably going there because of the same reason. I
Speaker 1: went there last night. On the way home from the
Speaker 1: mav game.
Speaker 2: I stopped off at Andrews and I got three different
Speaker 2: styles of pizza.
Speaker 3: Ben think about this.
Speaker 2: Everyone in my family wanted something different, so we got
Speaker 2: three different styles. They make it easy. They have five
Speaker 2: different styles there. You gotta try the Dallas though. There's
Speaker 2: the one that came from Picasso's.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 2: They have great pasta, they have great pizza. They have
Speaker 2: an awesome bar. I sat up at the bar and
Speaker 2: drank a big german last.
Speaker 1: Night, and you can do it too.
Speaker 2: Go to Andrew's American Pizza Kitchen right there at Preston
Speaker 2: and Plano Parkway.
Speaker 1: It is delicios. Man. All I can think of is
Speaker 1: Shane Gillis doing Trump talking about the Mavericks. I wish
Speaker 1: I had recorded it.
Speaker 3: He did.
Speaker 1: That is his bit. He did it. Oh that's crazy.
Speaker 1: He goes just riffing. He guess what do you want?
Speaker 1: Y'all want some Trump? Y'all want a little Trump. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'll do Trump. What are you gonna talk about it?
Speaker 1: He goes here we are, He goes Luca, he's white.
Speaker 1: We have the he's white. He's white. You know, he's
Speaker 1: just talking about he's a white player. And we love that.
Speaker 1: We love that he's white. He's so good. He's white,
Speaker 1: the white Mavericks.
Speaker 3: That's what he was saying to Mammonia Slovinian. She is, oh,
Speaker 3: is that right? Slovinian?
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 2: I actually didn't realize that, and I think it was
Speaker 2: my wife that brought it up the other day, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think she's Slovenian. I think
Speaker 2: there's really only one true you know, famous super famous Slovenian.
Speaker 1: It's Luca. And then we looked up.
Speaker 2: She's like, no, she's Slovenian, and I was like, so
Speaker 2: Luca's more famous than the first lady in terms of
Speaker 2: his Slovenian heritage.
Speaker 3: I would think, I don't know, recovery beer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs recovery beer. All right, let's talk a
Speaker 1: little sports, shall we, because the big news of the
Speaker 1: day is that Mike McCarthy is out. I was shocked
Speaker 1: that he was had a chance to stay. I thought
Speaker 1: for sure he was going to be gone. I thought
Speaker 1: for sure Jerry was so pissed earlier in the season
Speaker 1: that he had a guy in mine and McCarthy was done.
Speaker 1: But then Jerry tried to keep McCarthy and he and
Speaker 1: then it looked like, oh, he's not letting McCarthy interview
Speaker 1: with the Bears. Okay, he's declining that interview. He's denying
Speaker 1: them permission to talk to him. That means he's staying.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was a foe gone conclusion. I
Speaker 1: kind of talked myself into okay, okay, staying that's the
Speaker 1: best thing. And then they didn't get a deal done.
Speaker 1: So the guy he wanted, Jerry Lowbauld. Jane Slater reported
Speaker 1: that it was the number of years was the problem.
Speaker 1: So he wanted to keep him, but he didn't want
Speaker 1: to commit to him long term because he's not really
Speaker 1: sold on him. But he was sold enough to try
Speaker 1: to get a deal done and then couldn't get a
Speaker 1: deal done. It is crazy. And so while he was
Speaker 1: negotiating with McCarthy, he could not talk to any of
Speaker 1: the assistants that are active in the playoffs because that
Speaker 1: window he missed it last week waiting to talk to McCarthy.
Speaker 1: So now he didn't talk to any of those guys
Speaker 1: and he won't be able to talk to him now
Speaker 1: until after the super.
Speaker 3: Bowl, Yeah, a couple of weeks so, or until they're eliminated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or when those teams get eliminated.
Speaker 2: But everybody's going to be waiting for Ben Jonson and yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean some have already done it though, did it
Speaker 2: last week?
Speaker 3: That's the whole point.
Speaker 1: If they interviewed with teams last week and they hit
Speaker 1: it off and a team said, yep, that's our guy,
Speaker 1: maybe they had a great love connection and maybe those
Speaker 1: deals are done deals and.
Speaker 4: Jerry probably just thinks those guys will wait on me anyways,
Speaker 4: if they really want to come here, yeah, and I'll
Speaker 4: think someone who wants to be here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's messy. It is dysfunction at such
Speaker 1: a high level. But none of us should be surprised anymore.
Speaker 1: They have botched this, and so Mike McCarthy moves on
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys now need a head coach.
Speaker 4: Oh well yeah, I mean I'm not like I've seen
Speaker 4: like That's the number one takeaway I've kind of has
Speaker 4: shocked me all today is everyone's like kind of like
Speaker 4: mad at the Cowboys for how they've handled this. And
Speaker 4: I do understand it because it's not probably the best
Speaker 4: way to do it. But also it's like, who wanted
Speaker 4: Mike back?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't want Mike back. It's just really I think
Speaker 2: for me, and we knew this already. I think if
Speaker 2: they brought Mike McCarthy back, you could convince me in
Speaker 2: some way that at least, even though it's flawed, they
Speaker 2: have a plan. But to spend time making you think
Speaker 2: they want Mike back and then to just part ways
Speaker 2: a few hours before he can hit the open market
Speaker 2: is just affirmation that no, they genuinely fly by the
Speaker 2: seat of their pants. They probably have some loose ideas
Speaker 2: of stuff they like. But if they we had a plan,
Speaker 2: they would have executed that plan a week ago. We
Speaker 2: wouldn't have spent a week doing all this crap. And
Speaker 2: if these reports are true, there's indications that they did
Speaker 2: have some conversation. And again, Jerry did say a week
Speaker 2: ago that the hay is already in the barn. You
Speaker 2: know what it is, So then why did you wait
Speaker 2: a week? And I'm not buying the whole Well, it's
Speaker 2: a great marketing thing. I'm not buying that. I don't
Speaker 2: because Mike. Why would Mike McCarthy go along with that?
Speaker 2: What benefit does he get? He can go out there
Speaker 2: last week say they're not talking to me at all
Speaker 2: and they're not letting me talk to other teams. But
Speaker 2: he didn't, And so this isn't to me. I agree wrong.
Speaker 2: This isn't a case of like great marketing. This is
Speaker 2: a case of they thought they were going to bring
Speaker 2: Mike back and now they're not.
Speaker 1: It would have been a marketing play if they did
Speaker 1: bring him back, because it's like, let's just milk this,
Speaker 1: let's get these But it wasn't that at all. Because
Speaker 1: they wanted to negotiate. But it honestly goes back to
Speaker 1: the Jimmy Johnson thing, and it's when you know, Jerry
Speaker 1: hired Switzer and it's like, man, any he could coach
Speaker 1: this team. They don't value the job. They think they
Speaker 1: are the ones pulling the strings. They're the ones that
Speaker 1: make the difference, and the coach is the coach. It's
Speaker 1: not a huge difference maker. They don't see any reason
Speaker 1: to go out and pay a guy top of the
Speaker 1: market or go get the biggest name. They want to
Speaker 1: go get a guy who will carry their water to
Speaker 1: a degree and deal with their uniquely weird organization. They
Speaker 1: don't think it's a big time position. They don't think
Speaker 1: it matters.
Speaker 4: I've also seen a little bit of a sentiment of
Speaker 4: like they if they would have just let Mike do
Speaker 4: his thing, then things have been better. But dude, they
Speaker 4: gave Mike the keys two years ago. Yeah, when Kellen
Speaker 4: Moore hit the road. Now there's probably internal regret after
Speaker 4: seeing Washington win last night against the Bucks, going, man,
Speaker 4: if we would have just kept Dan Quinn.
Speaker 3: I mean, I do think that's a real thing.
Speaker 4: I think I do think Jerry watched those games yesterday
Speaker 4: and went Jesus because if they Kellen are succeeding, if
Speaker 4: they kept.
Speaker 2: Dan Quinn, Dak would have been like, bring Kellen back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: dan Quinn already had the wherewithal the higher Kellen, so
Speaker 2: that the top of that coach tree right there would
Speaker 2: be what is running your team right now? Now the
Speaker 2: injuries happened, They weren't going to get past the injuries.
Speaker 2: Maybe they could have put themselves in a position to
Speaker 2: be you know, ten and seven or nine and eight
Speaker 2: or something like that with better coaching, being more organized,
Speaker 2: which wouldn't have been enough.
Speaker 1: And stas off they set it out. They didn't do it.
Speaker 1: He didn't do anything to help his coach.
Speaker 4: And that's where we go like who wants the job?
Speaker 4: And there's probably a ton of names. We talked about
Speaker 4: him in a couple other segments. There are people who
Speaker 4: are gonna want the job because it's the cowboy's job.
Speaker 4: There are going to be people who make more sense.
Speaker 4: This is a win now roster, though, which does not
Speaker 4: always look like that based on the season we just watched, right,
Speaker 4: but this is a team who needs to hire a
Speaker 4: coach who's ready to win now, not a program builder.
Speaker 4: I think that's a smart thing, especially if you consider
Speaker 4: that Jerry's eighty two years old. Yeah, I mean that matters,
Speaker 4: and he can say it doesn't it does.
Speaker 1: That's that's weighing on him. They need to win fast,
Speaker 1: no matter what they do. I think it's the that
Speaker 1: they didn't have a plan. I would have had confidence
Speaker 1: if they they were decisive and they had a plan
Speaker 1: midway through the season and they were partner ways with
Speaker 1: McCarthy or they let's get this deal done with McCarthy.
Speaker 1: This just shows they didn't have a guy. They didn't
Speaker 1: have a plan. They are winging it, and no matter
Speaker 1: what they do from this point forward, it won't be
Speaker 1: their Plan A, it'll be Plan B. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it also just underscores that it's really been the
Speaker 2: same thing for thirty years and it's not going to change.
Speaker 2: And everybody knows it. And that's the thing. We all
Speaker 2: know this, We've all talked this into the ground. But
Speaker 2: when these things happen, they slap you in the face
Speaker 2: and they remind you of just how hopeless the situation is.
Speaker 2: Now they have enough talent to go. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think you've got to give McCarthy credit for those three
Speaker 2: big win seasons. That's not easy to do in the NFL.
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is that when you watch the playoffs,
Speaker 2: that's where coaching is completely magnified and you see those
Speaker 2: decisions Like you say whatever you want about Jason Garrett,
Speaker 2: I will forever remember him as the guy that panicked
Speaker 2: more than the rookie quarterback and called that time out
Speaker 2: for no reason to make sure that Aaron Rodgers had
Speaker 2: a chance to beat you. That is so dumb, That
Speaker 2: is so out of step with how people are winning
Speaker 2: football games. Like watch the end of these games and look,
Speaker 2: guys are on the seven yard line not going for
Speaker 2: field goals, Like the game has changed and there's nothing
Speaker 2: in the Cowboys organization that has changed in thirty years.
Speaker 2: And we all know this, but it happens, and then
Speaker 2: these things happen. It just reminds you, Wow, you really
Speaker 2: are stuck with this, no matter how good the personnel.
Speaker 1: Is and how is the team have a ten billion
Speaker 1: dollar valuation? How are the most valuable team in sports?
Speaker 1: Like do the Jets have a huge valuation? Dude? The
Speaker 1: worst the other worst teams in the NFL that continually
Speaker 1: don't do anything in the postseason are they also worth
Speaker 1: ten billion?
Speaker 2: It's but it's Jerry deserves a lot of credit. But
Speaker 2: the number one thing that Jerry deserves credit for is
Speaker 2: seeing an incredible asset that was distressed by the Murkison family.
Speaker 2: And that's and and then he took the industry that
Speaker 2: he bought into and just exploded it with that TV
Speaker 2: deal that changed the course of this. But a lot
Speaker 2: of what we're talking about here, the groundwork was done
Speaker 2: by tech shram. I mean, there's tons of iconography going
Speaker 2: back to my childhood that the Cowboys, And that's why
Speaker 2: Ben and I talk about these things that'll happen in
Speaker 2: other country. I've been on a beach before in Turks
Speaker 2: and Keikos and a guy from New York recognized my
Speaker 2: voice from the fan. And that's not because of the
Speaker 2: Cowboys of twenty fourteen. That's because of the Cowboys of
Speaker 2: the seventies and what happened there with that group. And
Speaker 2: Jerry saw that, and like, I can take that asset
Speaker 2: and make it something spectacular.
Speaker 1: But why don't people leave?
Speaker 3: Why don't people go?
Speaker 1: Here's why don't people bail everyone? They'll still have the
Speaker 1: biggest ratings on television.
Speaker 3: Because they are a top ten winning team over the
Speaker 3: last fifteen.
Speaker 1: Years record wise.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Jerry, I'll tell you that I'll go on
Speaker 4: the highest winning percentage of the last fifteen years.
Speaker 3: Thanks seventh or eighth. I mean, that's amazing. Can I
Speaker 3: can I.
Speaker 4: Cut McCarthy's some slack for a second? He's been in
Speaker 4: my cross hairs for a long time? But would you
Speaker 4: like to have Todd Bowles as your head coach? Because
Speaker 4: I have to play you this interview from halftime. He's
Speaker 4: been in your crowchairs cross hairs and my crowchairs. Uh
Speaker 4: to is the coach of the Bucks and this is
Speaker 4: his halftime interview. You know, how are we gonna stop
Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: And on defense?
Speaker 5: How do you limit Jaden Daniels? You gotta get them
Speaker 5: in long third and longer yards. You gotta win first
Speaker 5: down and kid getting out of the pocket to his
Speaker 5: left to his our left, his left, I mean our left.
Speaker 1: Is right and we gotta cut that down thanks to.
Speaker 3: I mean, what happened the directions?
Speaker 1: Could I hear it again?
Speaker 5: Long third and longer yards? You gotta win first down
Speaker 5: and kid getting out of the pocket to his left,
Speaker 5: to his our left, his left, his left. I mean
Speaker 5: our left is right and we gotta cut that down
Speaker 5: thanks to.
Speaker 1: The players. That way there, what coach?
Speaker 4: What also can I get mad real quck? So last
Speaker 4: night this I'm gonna play you clip from this is
Speaker 4: December eighth. Okay, here's Mike Turco, righty, it's.
Speaker 1: The duke for the division for the Chiefs the December eighth.
Speaker 4: The Chiefs win the division when the kicker dongs it
Speaker 4: off the uprights. And Turiko it's like he didn't go
Speaker 4: to f in broadcasting school called it the doint for
Speaker 4: the division. He had his chance to have the dog
Speaker 4: for the division. But then back in life, you get
Speaker 4: a second chance. Here's Tariko and Collinsworth last night the
Speaker 4: zang Gonzaz the kicker for the Commanders. He's got massive OCD,
Speaker 4: he's insane and he dogs it off the uprights. And
Speaker 4: listen to how Tariko and Collinsworth handled this. I'm so
Speaker 4: disappointed from thirty seven to send Washington to the Final eight.
Speaker 3: Though Washington.
Speaker 5: Around I.
Speaker 6: Have seen it all now I even get a defensial dot.
Speaker 6: I feel like every time I still game, you'll go
Speaker 6: like something up right, Oh my.
Speaker 1: Dong, it's a dong that doesn't sound like a doint.
Speaker 3: It sounds like a dong.
Speaker 6: You had your chance.
Speaker 3: He's idiots.
Speaker 4: Thank you you did ten years ago with Al.
Speaker 2: Why are we not going to talk about that kicker
Speaker 2: just freaking out?
Speaker 1: Let's god, man, dude, does he do that before every kick?
Speaker 1: With his hair?
Speaker 2: Yes, he couldn't figure out how to put his helmet
Speaker 2: ones and the socks.
Speaker 3: I saw that struggles with it.
Speaker 2: Okay, but they were explaining the socks and shoes differently.
Speaker 3: Well, there were time. I don't think they knew until today.
Speaker 4: Oh but his helmet thing, themes, its hair, that helmet
Speaker 4: thing was crazy to me.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Kevin,