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I hear 28 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:31.120 rim knocking, shaking bushits footprints howling on my lung. 29 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:34.200 Open up to an odyssey something in. 30 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:38.280 The woods, everybody, This is Less Striving Yes, yes, I. 31 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:40.280 Know AKA Surviving Man. 32 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:43.040 And you're listening to Brian on SA's watch us. 33 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:08.360 Hey there and welcome back to Sasquatch Hotsy. Thank you 34 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:09.520 so much for clicking play. 35 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:10.280 It is Sunday. 36 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:13.360 I hope you're having an amazing weekend. We have two 37 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:14.719 amazing guests lined. 38 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:14.919 Up for you. 39 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:17.280 But as always, I want to start the show by 40 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:19.960 inviting you. If you've had an encounter and you'd like 41 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:21.879 to be on the show, shoot me an email you 42 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:24.800 and get me at Brian at Piranomoworldproductions dot com. Get 43 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:26.919 head over to the website, check out the blog, become 44 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:27.759 a member there. 45 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:29.680 And help support the show. 46 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:33.719 As promised, we're back with part two of the Bradshaw 47 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:38.039 Ranch episodes. I've got Ron and Mark here today and 48 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:40.520 they're here to talk about some of their amazing experiences 49 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:43.400 they had while out filming at Bradshaw Ranch. And they're 50 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:45.800 going to talk about the documentary what you can expect 51 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:49.039 to see, and share some of those amazing experiences with 52 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:52.159 you right here today. So without further ado, all that's 53 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:55.199 left for you to do is sit back, relax, and 54 00:02:55.360 --> 00:03:20.120 enjoy the show. Well, well, welcome, my guest of the show. 55 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:23.120 It is Ron and Mark. Welcome to the show. 56 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:24.560 Guys, good to be here. 57 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:27.599 I'm glad to have you both. Let's start at the 58 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:31.120 very beginning. You guys are here because of a specific project. 59 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:33.479 Let's start with Ron. Let's talk a little bit about 60 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:37.280 this project and what got you interested in this Bradshaw 61 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:38.759 Ranch in the first place. 62 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:43.599 So everybody knows about Skinwalker Ranch. I believe in the 63 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:47.439 paranomal world, it's very hard to do any investigations there 64 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:51.000 unless you're in the club. I've spoken at the contest 65 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:53.800 there next to Skinwalker Ranch, and I got to know 66 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:58.319 a number of the cast members, at least the working 67 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:00.759 cast members quite well. Because we could spend time on 68 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:04.879 the green room. It sounded so intriguing what they were doing, 69 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:08.199 and I never imagined I would have a chance to 70 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:11.759 ever go to Skinwalker Ranch. But in an odd way, 71 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:14.280 all of a sudden, it turned out that there's another 72 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:19.439 place which is near Sedona, Arizona, called Bradshaw Ranch, which 73 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:23.079 had the long history of paranormal activities at least recorded 74 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:27.399 and are reported by Tom Dongole and Linda Bradshaw in 75 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:31.079 a book they wrote something called International Portals or something 76 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:36.519 like that. Through a sequence of synchronicities, the situation arose 77 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:39.360 that we could go out there and do an investigation 78 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:45.319 and film. Interestingly that it turned out that while we 79 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:48.600 were there, just before we arrived, Brandon Feugel, the owner 80 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:52.839 of Skinwalker Rane, tried to Bradshaw Ranch. Since the government 81 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:57.560 owns it's hundred rather hot circumstances he could buy, but 82 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:00.639 he was definitely interested. I asked to have tailored the 83 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:05.680 research scientist at skin and Walker Ranch. Why Brandon is interested, 84 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:07.480 And I don't know if it's true or not, but 85 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:10.279 he says the Mormons are interested in the hidden technology. 86 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:15.839 It's possible represented in both places. So when the chance 87 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:18.959 to go to Bradshaw Ranch and Film a Rose. We said, 88 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:20.040 what the heck, let's do it. 89 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:22.560 What about you? Mark? Was it something that you were 90 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:25.120 interested in for a long period of time? Is it 91 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:28.360 something you just discovered recently? What got you interested in 92 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:29.240 Bradshaw Ranch. 93 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:32.120 That's a question that I've asked frequently when Ron and 94 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:36.000 I talk about this, because I'm a natural skeptic about 95 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:41.560 anything that my science mind says, Wow, how do you 96 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:46.000 explain that I got interested? Because there are things that 97 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:51.319 just aren't explainable using modern scientific methods of reductionism to 98 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:54.040 try to find a root cause of something, it might 99 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:56.759 be a way to put it. Ron has been very 100 00:05:56.759 --> 00:06:00.240 helpful in allowing me to expand my awareness so that 101 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:04.000 I am not putting on these blinders thinking that there's 102 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:08.879 nothing else out there but the pure scientific method. Ron 103 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:12.480 opened me up to these other possibilities. I started to 104 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:16.759 become interested in them. He brought me on board because 105 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:20.439 I help him write scripts for his educational video company. 106 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:24.279 He likes my style of working with him, so I'm 107 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:25.160 pretty much all in. 108 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:27.439 This is a question for either one of you guys, 109 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:29.480 whoever wants to go first. Let's talk a little bit 110 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:33.199 about Bradshaw Ranch, in particular some of these things that 111 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:36.639 aren't explainable that are going on. Most of the audience 112 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:38.879 who may not be familiar, I was not familiar with 113 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:42.439 Bradshaw Ranch. Obviously, Skinwalker Ranch is one of those places 114 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:45.120 that most people are familiar with because it's on television. 115 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:47.560 There's a lot of buzz around it and has been 116 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:51.079 for the last four or five six years. So either 117 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:53.079 one of you who want to take this first, let's 118 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:55.519 talk a little bit about where Bradshaw Ranch is and 119 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:57.319 some of the things that are going on there and 120 00:06:57.319 --> 00:06:59.639 some of these anomalies that you guys were interested in 121 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:00.279 looking at into. 122 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:03.160 That's a good question. I think I can answer that. 123 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:06.199 Mark never went out to Bradshaw rash. Let me just 124 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:09.040 say that first week he helped me write another book 125 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:12.600 called on Paranormal Hotspots, and so he was quite familiar 126 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:16.519 with the concepts and he's like my scribe because I're 127 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:19.319 not good at that. So so anyhow, there were when 128 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:21.439 we went out there with we had three purposes in 129 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:25.120 mind to see what we could either verify or not. 130 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:29.040 One was, and this should be interesting to you, is 131 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:32.560 that there was a report of a lot of bigfoot activity, 132 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:40.199 particularly footprints trackways a sighting of a bigfoot frequently, so 133 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:43.639 frequent that it had the name big Gel. The second 134 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:48.680 was there were claims of a possible inter dimensional portal, 135 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:52.360 and that goes way back then. The third thing he 136 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:55.040 wanted to do is that it would be possible to 137 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:59.360 interact with an alien intelligence. So that was what was 138 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:01.639 driving us to go out there and investigate and see 139 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:02.600 if we could film. 140 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:07.639 I'm interested because these places, there's a couple of places 141 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:11.800 that come up across the bane of paranormal investigations and 142 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:15.279 things that people claim to be hotspots quote unquote for 143 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:21.199 whether it be bigfoot, alien activity, portals, those kind of things. Again, 144 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:23.240 this question is for either one of you guys. Have 145 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:30.199 you found anything specifically about this location Bradshaw Ranch that 146 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:34.799 is interesting that would explain maybe why this is a 147 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:37.159 hot spot for any of these things that are going on. 148 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:40.440 Is there something that stuck out, whether it be scientifically 149 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:45.320 or just geometrics. Is there a lot of different types 150 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:48.039 of rock in the area that may be conduce into 151 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:51.399 this kind of stuff. Is there anything special about this 152 00:08:51.879 --> 00:08:54.559 area that stuck out to you that would be a 153 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:57.440 conduit for any of this weird stuff that we're talking. 154 00:08:57.159 --> 00:09:01.799 About I'd like to tackle that for because you mentioned 155 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:07.200 rocks or interesting happening in that area, and for me, 156 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:10.919 it was the rock art by the Native Americans who 157 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:14.799 had lived in that area thousands of years ago, the Snawa. 158 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:18.879 When you first look at these petroglyphs, what have been 159 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:21.960 interpreted by an Indian jaman that we interviewed, a man 160 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.320 by the name of Jim White. He's a Santi Schaman. 161 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:31.519 These are representations of either a Bigfoot type entity or 162 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:38.799 portals that could transport people, and that these images also 163 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:42.759 were meant for the people of that area so as 164 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:45.360 a learning device for them to remember that this is 165 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.679 an important area. So that drew me to what Ron 166 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:51.360 was talking about. Ron, I think you can take it 167 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:54.759 from here because you have the actual experience of Bradshaw. 168 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:59.360 So let me just add to that that. Interestingly, what's 169 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:03.399 coming to the for in the Skinwalker investigation is that 170 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:09.240 there's the same collection of almost identical type rock art 171 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:13.320 there where in the Mesa the UAPs come into it 172 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:15.519 and come out on the other side of the Mason. 173 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:17.879 Remind me again, what's your question was. 174 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:20.639 Is there anything that sticks out that would make this 175 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:25.840 area more susceptible to some of this activity, because that's 176 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:29.360 always a question that comes up, why are certain places 177 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:35.000 hotspots for UAP activity, whether it be seeing the UAPs. 178 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:39.639 A lot of people have hot spots of having interactions 179 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:43.879 with what they believe to be alien craft and alien beans. 180 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:47.879 There's hot spots for Bigfoot. Bigfoot seems to be a 181 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:51.200 little bit more easy to explain because I personally think 182 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:53.320 this thing is a flesh and blood creature. If they exist, 183 00:10:53.480 --> 00:10:55.720 they're probably some sort of a real like tominoid. I know, 184 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:58.519 Ron you and I may disagree on that because of 185 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.279 some of the experiences you've had, but it's easy to 186 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:05.039 say this is a hot spot because there's thousands of 187 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:09.200 acres of unmolested area for these things to exist. And 188 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:12.039 I'm talking about Bigfoot. So when you talk about a 189 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:15.240 hot spot with a place like Bradshaw Ranch or even 190 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:18.960 Skinwalker Ranch, I have forty acres here in North Carolina, 191 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:21.639 and we've had some weird stuff on our property, but 192 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:24.559 I don't have portals. I don't experience a ton of 193 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:27.559 UAP stuff, although I believe we've had some interactions with 194 00:11:27.639 --> 00:11:31.200 possible UAPs on the property, but it's not a hot 195 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:34.559 spot quote unquote for portals and these other things. I 196 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:38.480 guess the question more pointed question would be what makes 197 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:42.399 this place special in your mind? And this is totally subjective, 198 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:46.000 but why would somebody consider Bradshaw Ranch to be a 199 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:49.080 special place or some sort of a conduit for all 200 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:53.000 of this activity that you experienced and other people have experienced. 201 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:55.120 There is there something that sticks out to you or 202 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:58.200 maybe other people have looked at it to say, this 203 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:00.080 is why this is a hot spot for us, some 204 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:01.399 of the things we're experiencing. 205 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.000 That's a good question. So when we did the investigation, 206 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.000 we kept building our team and eventually we invited this 207 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:13.399 person who had been studying the Vre Texas at Sedona 208 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:17.720 be familiar. That's what it's most famous for. His idea 209 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:23.320 is that and you're is related to what the geology 210 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:27.000 is Adona and the same Abradchall Ranch, and it consists 211 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:30.000 of two types of rock. When the surface of rock 212 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:34.840 is red, which indicates that it's an iron compound, and 213 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:40.840 that's conducing to transmitting electricity. Underneath that is a large 214 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:45.679 dome of courts. And he thinks that these two things 215 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:50.639 in combination act like an antenna or a transmitter attracting 216 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:53.600 a novelist phenomena, if you might want to put it 217 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:58.679 that way, Skinwalker Ranch has another similar block material that's 218 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:04.279 underneath that, So there is some sort of subsurface aspect 219 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:09.200 the people, I propose, is the reason why something such 220 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:11.440 as the UAP or a portal would open up there 221 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:15.840 is because of the unusual energy content. And when this 222 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.759 guy came out there with the magnetomerat, you can see 223 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:23.039 there were a lot of spikes of magnetic and positive 224 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:27.480 ion spikes just going on naturally constantly. For me, that's 225 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:30.320 as good an explanations as anybody could possibly do. 226 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.080 Let's talk about some of the experiences. You got to 227 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:35.159 go out there, ron you experience some of these things. 228 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:38.279 Let's talk about some of the experiences that you, maybe 229 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:41.279 the crew, maybe even other people before you guys got 230 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:44.679 out there. What are people experiencing specifically outside of the 231 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:47.120 bigfoot stuff. I want to circle back to the Bigfoot 232 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:48.879 stuff here in a minute, but what are some of 233 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:51.480 the other things that people have experienced there that have 234 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:56.279 been documented, whether it be UAP experiences, portals, those kind 235 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:59.720 of things. What are people experiencing on Bradshaw Ranch. 236 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:05.879 Going back to the original investigations by Linda Bradshaw and 237 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:09.399 Tom Dongo. You should have your won sometime. He's got 238 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:12.679 a lot of experience in this area and particularly with bigfoot. 239 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:18.519 Besides the ranch here, he reported in everybody we talked 240 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:22.840 to locals said there's a place where there's a portal 241 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:25.799 and we can tell you where it is. And the 242 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:30.480 configuration at Bradshaw Ranches a triangles. Do you want to 243 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:34.639 just elaborate on the triangle marks and the three structures? Oh? 244 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:38.279 Yeah, The triangle is located in the area of Bradshaw Ranch. 245 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:41.399 There are three structures. There's a windmill which would bring 246 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:45.759 water up. There is a small adobe house looks more 247 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:49.360 like a like a tool shed almost or a place 248 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:52.200 for storing and equipment, and then there's the main ranch house. 249 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:56.919 What's interesting is that these three structures form a triangle. 250 00:14:57.480 --> 00:15:01.399 On the road that runs through the portal is a 251 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:05.200 triangle itself. It's from the way I was looking at 252 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:08.519 the pictures that Ron showed me, it looks like it's 253 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:14.320 almost centered within the larger triangle created by the three 254 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:17.879 structures the windmill, the ranch house and this adobe house. 255 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:23.639 Melinda Wesley, who does night UAP viewing, said it sit 256 00:15:23.799 --> 00:15:27.799 between the little trail that runs from the aerobe building 257 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:28.799 to the main building. 258 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:31.840 If you go there, you're going to experience it. Everybody 259 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:35.039 has in some way or another. So in one of 260 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:40.360 our investigations we asked psychics to come along. They arrived 261 00:15:40.360 --> 00:15:43.320 in a little earlier in one of our days. Her 262 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:48.399 name was CJ. Mccoukin. She ran into this spot, bent 263 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:50.440 over in pain and had to get out of there. 264 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:52.759 So we said where is this It turned out to 265 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:56.000 be exactly where they said need the portal was. So 266 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:59.120 we said, okay, good, let's see if we could investigate. 267 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:00.840 And the first thing we did is we took a 268 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:06.039 magnetometer and see if anything was happening, and there were 269 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:09.840 a huge magnetic fluctuation. The intensity of the magnetic field 270 00:16:09.960 --> 00:16:13.679 was enormous and the fluctuations were as a result Allen 271 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:18.200 moving around when you interrupt the field. And so he said, okay, 272 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:22.440 that's cool. We got our thermal out and sharing apple 273 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:26.240 we'd look through the thermal. There was this intense cold spot. 274 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:29.360 I should mention one other thing we were told to 275 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:33.759 We brought a small Tesla coil that powered it up 276 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:36.279 in all of our investor when we were doing investigations, 277 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:40.519 because we were told that when these things tried to materialize, 278 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:43.080 whether it'd be big Foot, if you're paranormal, like you're not, 279 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:45.919 they need some extra juice to do that. It's not 280 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:49.440 easy for him. Our ghosts would need some extra juice 281 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:53.399 to materialize in someone that was set up. And when 282 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:56.679 we looked at our thermal, there was an intense cold 283 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:00.159 spot temperature there was about sixty degrees in this was 284 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.799 buw freezing, and in the middle was a little white 285 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:09.400 hot spot which some scientists has describe might be like 286 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:12.440 a magnetic field needs a magnum to produce the feel 287 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:16.759 that this little white hot spot was what was creating 288 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:21.240 the magnetic field, and it might be a plasmoid or 289 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:24.480 something else that's odd, and that was what was opening 290 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:27.079 up the portal. And then the next thing we all 291 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:29.440 did is that we went there and we all felt 292 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:32.680 like crapping in that little spot. And then we said, 293 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:36.200 let's set up our trail cam on the spot at night. 294 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:40.039 The trail cam puts out in for red to see. 295 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:44.480 It triggered the structure, which was a perfect pyramid as 296 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:49.720 marketing describe, which was translucent and on three occasions coming 297 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:53.000 out of that right at the portal where we identified 298 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:57.519 the portal were massive swarm of orbs coming out, and 299 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:00.599 the last thing that happened on the trail can I 300 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:02.400 unless they went back as we were leaving. 301 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:06.839 Finally, so we felt pretty confident in some way we 302 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:10.359 had demonstrated at a chill that there isn't in fact 303 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:13.440 a dimensional interdimensional portal lik or some kind. 304 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:16.640 Of portal that would normally be impossible. 305 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:19.960 Here's the rub for me when it comes to Bigfoot 306 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:25.480 in particular being associated with interdimensional travel. I am certainly 307 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:27.799 open to those things. I never closed the door on 308 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:30.920 anything because I've talked to so many people. I'm almost 309 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:33.799 five hundred episodes into Sasquatch out to See at this point, 310 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:36.440 and tons of people have had experiences I can't explain 311 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:40.480 away with science, right, So I'm open to the fact 312 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:43.640 that being a possibility. A couple of questions here. Let's 313 00:18:43.839 --> 00:18:46.599 talk first about this portal. Is it something that you 314 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:49.599 guys had to find with your instruments or was it 315 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:53.119 something that was drawing you to it? Was it a feeling? 316 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:57.039 Did you find it with your scientific equipment to be 317 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:01.119 able to pinpoint this area of where this portal was? Again, 318 00:19:01.160 --> 00:19:03.559 this is for either one of you guys to know 319 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:07.720 where to put your cameras and your equipment to test 320 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:11.559 this stuff. Then, secondly, I go back to the Bigfoot activity. 321 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:16.799 Are you convinced that these things are interdimensional or do 322 00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:19.160 you think there's some sort of a possibility that there 323 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:23.279 is a flesh and blood component to bigfoot? If you would, 324 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:26.880 of course subjectively go into what your thoughts are on 325 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:31.480 the difference in these things being interdimensional, are flesh and blood? 326 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:33.839 And why? So either one of you guys want to 327 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:36.480 take any of those questions in any order, it's fine 328 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:36.759 by me. 329 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:40.279 Those are three interesting questions. 330 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:43.960 That's what I get paid to do, man, So I'll. 331 00:19:43.799 --> 00:19:47.799 Answer the bigfoot one quickly. My belief is that they're 332 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:51.319 both raophysical and physical, or if they have that capability, 333 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:55.759 that would be my experience's point to that. I don't 334 00:19:55.759 --> 00:19:58.640 think Bradshaw ransported in that direction because there was a 335 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:03.079 lot of footprints that were clear associated with Bigfoot. Alan 336 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:06.480 actually saw one visually when we were out there on 337 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:10.359 our first expedition. Our guide out there, Jerga, took a 338 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:14.400 picture of it and it's quite compelling. Then CJ and 339 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:19.279 Allen ran off and had a non physical encounter with 340 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:21.920 bigfoot that's the bes thought I could say on that. 341 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:25.039 Let me chime in here real quick, Ron, the Sallys 342 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:32.400 word for thasquatch doesn't refer to a corporeal being. That 343 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:37.759 actually refers to an experience of the wind or the 344 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:42.839 air in the forests. We can extrapolate from that if 345 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:48.920 we care to, that Bigfoot has this capability of appearing 346 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:54.400 and disappearing. The way Bigfoot appears and disappears, it could 347 00:20:54.400 --> 00:20:57.680 be a paranormal idea of a portal, whether it's an 348 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:01.559 interdimensional portal of some kind that it can step into 349 00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:04.519 and step out of go from one area to another. 350 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:07.799 It could be that it has the ability to wipe 351 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:12.000 the mind of the person that it encounters, or it 352 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:14.359 could place a suggestion in the mind of a person 353 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:18.200 that encounters that says I was here, but I'm not 354 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:20.400 here now. I moved very quickly out of your way. 355 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:25.160 So the word sasquatch is itself, I think very revealing 356 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:28.160 as to the nature of big pot As for your 357 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:33.160 idea about the portal and using scientific instruments, I think 358 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:36.519 the thing that captured my imagination when Ron and I 359 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:40.440 are having coffee and he's describing their finding this thing 360 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:45.279 was CJ's reaction. There was no scientific equipment going on. 361 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:48.160 CJ just walked into the middle of this thing and 362 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:51.160 doubled over in pain. She was so doubled over in 363 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:53.319 pain that she had to be brought back out of 364 00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:57.680 it in order to feel right again. Unless you want 365 00:21:57.680 --> 00:21:59.960 to say that the human body and I'm all for this, 366 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:03.319 that the human body is itself a kind of instrument 367 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:09.079 for detecting phenomena such as portals. What draws you to 368 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:14.839 that at first is not the scientific equipment to outline 369 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:18.119 where it is, which is what Ron's equipment did, but 370 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:22.599 the human body's reaction to it. So that's what I 371 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:23.960 wanted to interject there. 372 00:22:24.039 --> 00:22:27.400 Ron. So has that answered two of your questions? 373 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:31.039 I think it definitely does, at least on some level. 374 00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:33.920 I think the rub For me, I'm a very Okham's 375 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:37.200 razor kind of guy. I'm a very skeptical person in general. 376 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:40.440 I always put my cop head on when I'm interacting 377 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:43.559 with anybody. When it comes to bigfoot UAPs. I've had 378 00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:47.720 UAP experiences. I've seen UFOs in the past. I believe 379 00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:51.519 in extraterrestrials. I believe that they've been here for tons 380 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:54.440 of years. I want to believe that Bigfoot is real. 381 00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:56.640 I haven't seen one, so it's hard for me to 382 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:00.440 be one hundred percent on board with that. Rubbed for 383 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:05.400 me with sasquatch in general is by and large, the 384 00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:07.720 majority of the people that I have talked to, and 385 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:12.119 the majority of people that have documented encounters at this point, 386 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:16.839 and the numbers of thousands of encounters. They're very mundane, 387 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:19.799 flesh and blood type of things that these things are doing. 388 00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:24.680 They're crossing the road, they're seen chasing deer, they're just 389 00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:27.480 walking through the woods, those kind of things. I guess 390 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:31.799 Devil's advocate in me would say it's easy to explain 391 00:23:31.960 --> 00:23:36.599 something that's unexplained they're certainly not documented by science by 392 00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:39.400 wrapping them in some sort of a mystery and an enigma. 393 00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:42.000 I'll go to Ron first, and then maybe Mark you 394 00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:42.759 can chime in on. 395 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:43.359 This as well. 396 00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:46.079 Just specifically with the Bigfoot thing, I think it's very 397 00:23:46.119 --> 00:23:50.200 difficult for me to understand why and how they would 398 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:53.400 be an interdimensional creature versus some sort of a leftover 399 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:58.119 relic tomanoid that has survived undetected. So many things have 400 00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:01.359 Celacanth comes to mind. There's a couple other things that 401 00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:03.799