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Speaker 1: As promised, we're back with part two of the Bradshaw
Speaker 1: Ranch episodes. I've got Ron and Mark here today and
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Speaker 1: you right here today. So without further ado, all that's
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Speaker 1: enjoy the show. Well, well, welcome, my guest of the show.
Speaker 1: It is Ron and Mark. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 8: Guys, good to be here.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to have you both. Let's start at the
Speaker 1: very beginning. You guys are here because of a specific project.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Ron. Let's talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: this project and what got you interested in this Bradshaw
Speaker 1: Ranch in the first place.
Speaker 8: So everybody knows about Skinwalker Ranch. I believe in the
Speaker 8: paranomal world, it's very hard to do any investigations there
Speaker 8: unless you're in the club. I've spoken at the contest
Speaker 8: there next to Skinwalker Ranch, and I got to know
Speaker 8: a number of the cast members, at least the working
Speaker 8: cast members quite well. Because we could spend time on
Speaker 8: the green room. It sounded so intriguing what they were doing,
Speaker 8: and I never imagined I would have a chance to
Speaker 8: ever go to Skinwalker Ranch. But in an odd way,
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, it turned out that there's another
Speaker 8: place which is near Sedona, Arizona, called Bradshaw Ranch, which
Speaker 8: had the long history of paranormal activities at least recorded
Speaker 8: and are reported by Tom Dongole and Linda Bradshaw in
Speaker 8: a book they wrote something called International Portals or something
Speaker 8: like that. Through a sequence of synchronicities, the situation arose
Speaker 8: that we could go out there and do an investigation
Speaker 8: and film. Interestingly that it turned out that while we
Speaker 8: were there, just before we arrived, Brandon Feugel, the owner
Speaker 8: of Skinwalker Rane, tried to Bradshaw Ranch. Since the government
Speaker 8: owns it's hundred rather hot circumstances he could buy, but
Speaker 8: he was definitely interested. I asked to have tailored the
Speaker 8: research scientist at skin and Walker Ranch. Why Brandon is interested,
Speaker 8: And I don't know if it's true or not, but
Speaker 8: he says the Mormons are interested in the hidden technology.
Speaker 8: It's possible represented in both places. So when the chance
Speaker 8: to go to Bradshaw Ranch and Film a Rose. We said,
Speaker 8: what the heck, let's do it.
Speaker 1: What about you? Mark? Was it something that you were
Speaker 1: interested in for a long period of time? Is it
Speaker 1: something you just discovered recently? What got you interested in
Speaker 1: Bradshaw Ranch.
Speaker 6: That's a question that I've asked frequently when Ron and
Speaker 6: I talk about this, because I'm a natural skeptic about
Speaker 6: anything that my science mind says, Wow, how do you
Speaker 6: explain that I got interested? Because there are things that
Speaker 6: just aren't explainable using modern scientific methods of reductionism to
Speaker 6: try to find a root cause of something, it might
Speaker 6: be a way to put it. Ron has been very
Speaker 6: helpful in allowing me to expand my awareness so that
Speaker 6: I am not putting on these blinders thinking that there's
Speaker 6: nothing else out there but the pure scientific method. Ron
Speaker 6: opened me up to these other possibilities. I started to
Speaker 6: become interested in them. He brought me on board because
Speaker 6: I help him write scripts for his educational video company.
Speaker 6: He likes my style of working with him, so I'm
Speaker 6: pretty much all in.
Speaker 1: This is a question for either one of you guys,
Speaker 1: whoever wants to go first. Let's talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about Bradshaw Ranch, in particular some of these things that
Speaker 1: aren't explainable that are going on. Most of the audience
Speaker 1: who may not be familiar, I was not familiar with
Speaker 1: Bradshaw Ranch. Obviously, Skinwalker Ranch is one of those places
Speaker 1: that most people are familiar with because it's on television.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of buzz around it and has been
Speaker 1: for the last four or five six years. So either
Speaker 1: one of you who want to take this first, let's
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about where Bradshaw Ranch is and
Speaker 1: some of the things that are going on there and
Speaker 1: some of these anomalies that you guys were interested in
Speaker 1: looking at into.
Speaker 8: That's a good question. I think I can answer that.
Speaker 8: Mark never went out to Bradshaw rash. Let me just
Speaker 8: say that first week he helped me write another book
Speaker 8: called on Paranormal Hotspots, and so he was quite familiar
Speaker 8: with the concepts and he's like my scribe because I're
Speaker 8: not good at that. So so anyhow, there were when
Speaker 8: we went out there with we had three purposes in
Speaker 8: mind to see what we could either verify or not.
Speaker 8: One was, and this should be interesting to you, is
Speaker 8: that there was a report of a lot of bigfoot activity,
Speaker 8: particularly footprints trackways a sighting of a bigfoot frequently, so
Speaker 8: frequent that it had the name big Gel. The second
Speaker 8: was there were claims of a possible inter dimensional portal,
Speaker 8: and that goes way back then. The third thing he
Speaker 8: wanted to do is that it would be possible to
Speaker 8: interact with an alien intelligence. So that was what was
Speaker 8: driving us to go out there and investigate and see
Speaker 8: if we could film.
Speaker 1: I'm interested because these places, there's a couple of places
Speaker 1: that come up across the bane of paranormal investigations and
Speaker 1: things that people claim to be hotspots quote unquote for
Speaker 1: whether it be bigfoot, alien activity, portals, those kind of things. Again,
Speaker 1: this question is for either one of you guys. Have
Speaker 1: you found anything specifically about this location Bradshaw Ranch that
Speaker 1: is interesting that would explain maybe why this is a
Speaker 1: hot spot for any of these things that are going on.
Speaker 1: Is there something that stuck out, whether it be scientifically
Speaker 1: or just geometrics. Is there a lot of different types
Speaker 1: of rock in the area that may be conduce into
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. Is there anything special about this
Speaker 1: area that stuck out to you that would be a
Speaker 1: conduit for any of this weird stuff that we're talking.
Speaker 6: About I'd like to tackle that for because you mentioned
Speaker 6: rocks or interesting happening in that area, and for me,
Speaker 6: it was the rock art by the Native Americans who
Speaker 6: had lived in that area thousands of years ago, the Snawa.
Speaker 6: When you first look at these petroglyphs, what have been
Speaker 6: interpreted by an Indian jaman that we interviewed, a man
Speaker 6: by the name of Jim White. He's a Santi Schaman.
Speaker 6: These are representations of either a Bigfoot type entity or
Speaker 6: portals that could transport people, and that these images also
Speaker 6: were meant for the people of that area so as
Speaker 6: a learning device for them to remember that this is
Speaker 6: an important area. So that drew me to what Ron
Speaker 6: was talking about. Ron, I think you can take it
Speaker 6: from here because you have the actual experience of Bradshaw.
Speaker 8: So let me just add to that that. Interestingly, what's
Speaker 8: coming to the for in the Skinwalker investigation is that
Speaker 8: there's the same collection of almost identical type rock art
Speaker 8: there where in the Mesa the UAPs come into it
Speaker 8: and come out on the other side of the Mason.
Speaker 8: Remind me again, what's your question was.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that sticks out that would make this
Speaker 1: area more susceptible to some of this activity, because that's
Speaker 1: always a question that comes up, why are certain places
Speaker 1: hotspots for UAP activity, whether it be seeing the UAPs.
Speaker 1: A lot of people have hot spots of having interactions
Speaker 1: with what they believe to be alien craft and alien beans.
Speaker 1: There's hot spots for Bigfoot. Bigfoot seems to be a
Speaker 1: little bit more easy to explain because I personally think
Speaker 1: this thing is a flesh and blood creature. If they exist,
Speaker 1: they're probably some sort of a real like tominoid. I know,
Speaker 1: Ron you and I may disagree on that because of
Speaker 1: some of the experiences you've had, but it's easy to
Speaker 1: say this is a hot spot because there's thousands of
Speaker 1: acres of unmolested area for these things to exist. And
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Bigfoot. So when you talk about a
Speaker 1: hot spot with a place like Bradshaw Ranch or even
Speaker 1: Skinwalker Ranch, I have forty acres here in North Carolina,
Speaker 1: and we've had some weird stuff on our property, but
Speaker 1: I don't have portals. I don't experience a ton of
Speaker 1: UAP stuff, although I believe we've had some interactions with
Speaker 1: possible UAPs on the property, but it's not a hot
Speaker 1: spot quote unquote for portals and these other things. I
Speaker 1: guess the question more pointed question would be what makes
Speaker 1: this place special in your mind? And this is totally subjective,
Speaker 1: but why would somebody consider Bradshaw Ranch to be a
Speaker 1: special place or some sort of a conduit for all
Speaker 1: of this activity that you experienced and other people have experienced.
Speaker 1: There is there something that sticks out to you or
Speaker 1: maybe other people have looked at it to say, this
Speaker 1: is why this is a hot spot for us, some
Speaker 1: of the things we're experiencing.
Speaker 8: That's a good question. So when we did the investigation,
Speaker 8: we kept building our team and eventually we invited this
Speaker 8: person who had been studying the Vre Texas at Sedona
Speaker 8: be familiar. That's what it's most famous for. His idea
Speaker 8: is that and you're is related to what the geology
Speaker 8: is Adona and the same Abradchall Ranch, and it consists
Speaker 8: of two types of rock. When the surface of rock
Speaker 8: is red, which indicates that it's an iron compound, and
Speaker 8: that's conducing to transmitting electricity. Underneath that is a large
Speaker 8: dome of courts. And he thinks that these two things
Speaker 8: in combination act like an antenna or a transmitter attracting
Speaker 8: a novelist phenomena, if you might want to put it
Speaker 8: that way, Skinwalker Ranch has another similar block material that's
Speaker 8: underneath that, So there is some sort of subsurface aspect
Speaker 8: the people, I propose, is the reason why something such
Speaker 8: as the UAP or a portal would open up there
Speaker 8: is because of the unusual energy content. And when this
Speaker 8: guy came out there with the magnetomerat, you can see
Speaker 8: there were a lot of spikes of magnetic and positive
Speaker 8: ion spikes just going on naturally constantly. For me, that's
Speaker 8: as good an explanations as anybody could possibly do.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of the experiences. You got to
Speaker 1: go out there, ron you experience some of these things.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of the experiences that you, maybe
Speaker 1: the crew, maybe even other people before you guys got
Speaker 1: out there. What are people experiencing specifically outside of the
Speaker 1: bigfoot stuff. I want to circle back to the Bigfoot
Speaker 1: stuff here in a minute, but what are some of
Speaker 1: the other things that people have experienced there that have
Speaker 1: been documented, whether it be UAP experiences, portals, those kind
Speaker 1: of things. What are people experiencing on Bradshaw Ranch.
Speaker 8: Going back to the original investigations by Linda Bradshaw and
Speaker 8: Tom Dongo. You should have your won sometime. He's got
Speaker 8: a lot of experience in this area and particularly with bigfoot.
Speaker 8: Besides the ranch here, he reported in everybody we talked
Speaker 8: to locals said there's a place where there's a portal
Speaker 8: and we can tell you where it is. And the
Speaker 8: configuration at Bradshaw Ranches a triangles. Do you want to
Speaker 8: just elaborate on the triangle marks and the three structures? Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, The triangle is located in the area of Bradshaw Ranch.
Speaker 6: There are three structures. There's a windmill which would bring
Speaker 6: water up. There is a small adobe house looks more
Speaker 6: like a like a tool shed almost or a place
Speaker 6: for storing and equipment, and then there's the main ranch house.
Speaker 6: What's interesting is that these three structures form a triangle.
Speaker 6: On the road that runs through the portal is a
Speaker 6: triangle itself. It's from the way I was looking at
Speaker 6: the pictures that Ron showed me, it looks like it's
Speaker 6: almost centered within the larger triangle created by the three
Speaker 6: structures the windmill, the ranch house and this adobe house.
Speaker 9: Melinda Wesley, who does night UAP viewing, said it sit
Speaker 9: between the little trail that runs from the aerobe building
Speaker 9: to the main building.
Speaker 8: If you go there, you're going to experience it. Everybody
Speaker 8: has in some way or another. So in one of
Speaker 8: our investigations we asked psychics to come along. They arrived
Speaker 8: in a little earlier in one of our days. Her
Speaker 8: name was CJ. Mccoukin. She ran into this spot, bent
Speaker 8: over in pain and had to get out of there.
Speaker 8: So we said where is this It turned out to
Speaker 8: be exactly where they said need the portal was. So
Speaker 8: we said, okay, good, let's see if we could investigate.
Speaker 8: And the first thing we did is we took a
Speaker 8: magnetometer and see if anything was happening, and there were
Speaker 8: a huge magnetic fluctuation. The intensity of the magnetic field
Speaker 8: was enormous and the fluctuations were as a result Allen
Speaker 8: moving around when you interrupt the field. And so he said, okay,
Speaker 8: that's cool. We got our thermal out and sharing apple
Speaker 8: we'd look through the thermal. There was this intense cold spot.
Speaker 8: I should mention one other thing we were told to
Speaker 8: We brought a small Tesla coil that powered it up
Speaker 8: in all of our investor when we were doing investigations,
Speaker 8: because we were told that when these things tried to materialize,
Speaker 8: whether it'd be big Foot, if you're paranormal, like you're not,
Speaker 8: they need some extra juice to do that. It's not
Speaker 8: easy for him. Our ghosts would need some extra juice
Speaker 8: to materialize in someone that was set up. And when
Speaker 8: we looked at our thermal, there was an intense cold
Speaker 8: spot temperature there was about sixty degrees in this was
Speaker 8: buw freezing, and in the middle was a little white
Speaker 8: hot spot which some scientists has describe might be like
Speaker 8: a magnetic field needs a magnum to produce the feel
Speaker 8: that this little white hot spot was what was creating
Speaker 8: the magnetic field, and it might be a plasmoid or
Speaker 8: something else that's odd, and that was what was opening
Speaker 8: up the portal. And then the next thing we all
Speaker 8: did is that we went there and we all felt
Speaker 8: like crapping in that little spot. And then we said,
Speaker 8: let's set up our trail cam on the spot at night.
Speaker 8: The trail cam puts out in for red to see.
Speaker 8: It triggered the structure, which was a perfect pyramid as
Speaker 8: marketing describe, which was translucent and on three occasions coming
Speaker 8: out of that right at the portal where we identified
Speaker 8: the portal were massive swarm of orbs coming out, and
Speaker 8: the last thing that happened on the trail can I
Speaker 8: unless they went back as we were leaving.
Speaker 10: Finally, so we felt pretty confident in some way we
Speaker 10: had demonstrated at a chill that there isn't in fact
Speaker 10: a dimensional interdimensional portal lik or some kind.
Speaker 8: Of portal that would normally be impossible.
Speaker 1: Here's the rub for me when it comes to Bigfoot
Speaker 1: in particular being associated with interdimensional travel. I am certainly
Speaker 1: open to those things. I never closed the door on
Speaker 1: anything because I've talked to so many people. I'm almost
Speaker 1: five hundred episodes into Sasquatch out to See at this point,
Speaker 1: and tons of people have had experiences I can't explain
Speaker 1: away with science, right, So I'm open to the fact
Speaker 1: that being a possibility. A couple of questions here. Let's
Speaker 1: talk first about this portal. Is it something that you
Speaker 1: guys had to find with your instruments or was it
Speaker 1: something that was drawing you to it? Was it a feeling?
Speaker 1: Did you find it with your scientific equipment to be
Speaker 1: able to pinpoint this area of where this portal was? Again,
Speaker 1: this is for either one of you guys to know
Speaker 1: where to put your cameras and your equipment to test
Speaker 1: this stuff. Then, secondly, I go back to the Bigfoot activity.
Speaker 1: Are you convinced that these things are interdimensional or do
Speaker 1: you think there's some sort of a possibility that there
Speaker 1: is a flesh and blood component to bigfoot? If you would,
Speaker 1: of course subjectively go into what your thoughts are on
Speaker 1: the difference in these things being interdimensional, are flesh and blood?
Speaker 1: And why? So either one of you guys want to
Speaker 1: take any of those questions in any order, it's fine
Speaker 1: by me.
Speaker 8: Those are three interesting questions.
Speaker 1: That's what I get paid to do, man, So I'll.
Speaker 8: Answer the bigfoot one quickly. My belief is that they're
Speaker 8: both raophysical and physical, or if they have that capability,
Speaker 8: that would be my experience's point to that. I don't
Speaker 8: think Bradshaw ransported in that direction because there was a
Speaker 8: lot of footprints that were clear associated with Bigfoot. Alan
Speaker 8: actually saw one visually when we were out there on
Speaker 8: our first expedition. Our guide out there, Jerga, took a
Speaker 8: picture of it and it's quite compelling. Then CJ and
Speaker 8: Allen ran off and had a non physical encounter with
Speaker 8: bigfoot that's the bes thought I could say on that.
Speaker 6: Let me chime in here real quick, Ron, the Sallys
Speaker 6: word for thasquatch doesn't refer to a corporeal being. That
Speaker 6: actually refers to an experience of the wind or the
Speaker 6: air in the forests. We can extrapolate from that if
Speaker 6: we care to, that Bigfoot has this capability of appearing
Speaker 6: and disappearing. The way Bigfoot appears and disappears, it could
Speaker 6: be a paranormal idea of a portal, whether it's an
Speaker 6: interdimensional portal of some kind that it can step into
Speaker 6: and step out of go from one area to another.
Speaker 6: It could be that it has the ability to wipe
Speaker 6: the mind of the person that it encounters, or it
Speaker 6: could place a suggestion in the mind of a person
Speaker 6: that encounters that says I was here, but I'm not
Speaker 6: here now. I moved very quickly out of your way.
Speaker 6: So the word sasquatch is itself, I think very revealing
Speaker 6: as to the nature of big pot As for your
Speaker 6: idea about the portal and using scientific instruments, I think
Speaker 6: the thing that captured my imagination when Ron and I
Speaker 6: are having coffee and he's describing their finding this thing
Speaker 6: was CJ's reaction. There was no scientific equipment going on.
Speaker 6: CJ just walked into the middle of this thing and
Speaker 6: doubled over in pain. She was so doubled over in
Speaker 6: pain that she had to be brought back out of
Speaker 6: it in order to feel right again. Unless you want
Speaker 6: to say that the human body and I'm all for this,
Speaker 6: that the human body is itself a kind of instrument
Speaker 6: for detecting phenomena such as portals. What draws you to
Speaker 6: that at first is not the scientific equipment to outline
Speaker 6: where it is, which is what Ron's equipment did, but
Speaker 6: the human body's reaction to it. So that's what I
Speaker 6: wanted to interject there.
Speaker 8: Ron. So has that answered two of your questions?
Speaker 1: I think it definitely does, at least on some level.
Speaker 1: I think the rub For me, I'm a very Okham's
Speaker 1: razor kind of guy. I'm a very skeptical person in general.
Speaker 1: I always put my cop head on when I'm interacting
Speaker 1: with anybody. When it comes to bigfoot UAPs. I've had
Speaker 1: UAP experiences. I've seen UFOs in the past. I believe
Speaker 1: in extraterrestrials. I believe that they've been here for tons
Speaker 1: of years. I want to believe that Bigfoot is real.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen one, so it's hard for me to
Speaker 1: be one hundred percent on board with that. Rubbed for
Speaker 1: me with sasquatch in general is by and large, the
Speaker 1: majority of the people that I have talked to, and
Speaker 1: the majority of people that have documented encounters at this point,
Speaker 1: and the numbers of thousands of encounters. They're very mundane,
Speaker 1: flesh and blood type of things that these things are doing.
Speaker 1: They're crossing the road, they're seen chasing deer, they're just
Speaker 1: walking through the woods, those kind of things. I guess
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate in me would say it's easy to explain
Speaker 1: something that's unexplained they're certainly not documented by science by
Speaker 1: wrapping them in some sort of a mystery and an enigma.
Speaker 1: I'll go to Ron first, and then maybe Mark you
Speaker 1: can chime in on.
Speaker 8: This as well.
Speaker 1: Just specifically with the Bigfoot thing, I think it's very
Speaker 1: difficult for me to understand why and how they would
Speaker 1: be an interdimensional creature versus some sort of a leftover
Speaker 1: relic tomanoid that has survived undetected. So many things have
Speaker 1: Celacanth comes to mind. There's a couple other things that
Speaker 1: have come up over the last ten twenty thirty years
Speaker 1: that have been thought to be extinct and they're not.
Speaker 1: I guess the question would be again ron first to
Speaker 1: you specifically the Bigfoot. Why is it that they're an
Speaker 1: interdimensional creature and people are having these mundane sort of
Speaker 1: experiences with them just crossing the road. How do you
Speaker 1: account for that in your theory of them being possibly
Speaker 1: interdimensional and having some sort of the physical state, or
Speaker 1: maybe that answers the question, is that your argument that
Speaker 1: these things may be interdimensional, but they are a physical
Speaker 1: creature when they're in our dimension, and that's why people
Speaker 1: have these kind of experiences with them.
Speaker 8: So I might try and answer your question maybe in
Speaker 8: a slightly different way, and that I'm beginning to believe
Speaker 8: that in all these anomalous events, you got to talk
Speaker 8: about the person who's having them as well. I've done
Speaker 8: a lot of interviews with people who've had Bigfoot experiences.
Speaker 8: When I did Chasing Bigfoot, we had everybody I pretty
Speaker 8: much I had no idea about paraphysical big qualages in
Speaker 8: your camp right now, I don't know what it is,
Speaker 8: but they don't seem to be lying when they talk
Speaker 8: about their experiences.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquatch Otasy will be right
Speaker 1: back after these messages.
Speaker 8: And then I would ask the secondary question, has it
Speaker 8: changed you how you look at things? If you see
Speaker 8: something like that, And most of the time it has.
Speaker 8: It's had a profound experience on the people. I don't
Speaker 8: know about you, but it changes them in some way.
Speaker 8: There's a growing community of people now who are saying
Speaker 8: that's the purpose of UAPs. They're designed to change people,
Speaker 8: to change their belief structure, particularly probably the mechanistic, materialistic
Speaker 8: scientific view, because, for example, I think for most of
Speaker 8: the history and Mark confirm this, it if there are
Speaker 8: modern day angels, big part of the whole Christian lineage,
Speaker 8: people would see those in the would change him. I
Speaker 8: think that's my answer. I think they're changing. So you
Speaker 8: got to look at that, ask me and see if
Speaker 8: anybody was I had a visual experience and you're talking
Speaker 8: about that, right, there are a lot of experience with
Speaker 8: people through rocks and so not even though those were transformational.
Speaker 8: Because you say that that's it possible, where did that
Speaker 8: come from? Well, would you agree about the angels sing
Speaker 8: and other things that Mark?
Speaker 6: Is it? That's a yeah, the question you pose, Brian
Speaker 6: is in my way, it's a great question because it
Speaker 6: expands the idea of what Bigfoot is. You can try
Speaker 6: to say that Bigfoot is a part of an early hominid,
Speaker 6: of which there is a fossil record of getting the
Speaker 6: actual Latin name for it, that with a large creature
Speaker 6: about bigfoot size, and is believed to be the origin
Speaker 6: of legends of the Yetti in the Himalias, for example.
Speaker 6: So there's some evidence, as you rightly said, that people
Speaker 6: see a creature running across the road or chasing deer,
Speaker 6: which would lend itself to the belief that Bigfoot are
Speaker 6: a hominid that have survived the last fifty thousand years.
Speaker 6: With the advent of Homo sapiens on the planet, for example,
Speaker 6: we seem to have done a very good job of
Speaker 6: wiping out other species like Neanderthal, but apparently not the
Speaker 6: Bigfoot hominids. On the other hand, what Ron was talking about,
Speaker 6: if we look at the preponderance of technology in the
Speaker 6: world today, but especially in what we call the western
Speaker 6: developed countries, it would almost seem as though this technology
Speaker 6: is there to give us a sort of instant gratification.
Speaker 6: I have my cell phone, right, I can pop this
Speaker 6: baby open and open it up, and I can look
Speaker 6: up the definition of a word like that. I can
Speaker 6: find a cat video like that if I want to
Speaker 6: be easily amused. The experience that a person has, on
Speaker 6: the other hand, the experience that a person has with
Speaker 6: a paranormal event like a UAP or a bigfoot that
Speaker 6: can't be explained readily with this technology opens that person
Speaker 6: up to a more profound experience. These profound experiences have
Speaker 6: a really wonderful effect on humans. The profound experience to
Speaker 6: humans that are open to it. There are people that
Speaker 6: can have a profound experience and they're too busy watching
Speaker 6: the cat meme, but they have this profound opens them
Speaker 6: up to a larger world around them and actually invites
Speaker 6: them in improving themselves because they're now part of this
Speaker 6: large world. So that would be my explanation, dubtailing off
Speaker 6: what Ron was saying and dub tailing off what you're
Speaker 6: saying as well.
Speaker 1: Brian, Let's talk a little bit about the UAP experience
Speaker 1: around Bradshaw Ranch. Is there a lot of that going on?
Speaker 1: Sightings of UAPs, maybe even alien or potentially alien creatures.
Speaker 1: If so, do you draw a parallel between the UAP
Speaker 1: activity and all the other activity that people are experiencing,
Speaker 1: because portals are one thing. But I personally think that
Speaker 1: UAPs are coming maybe from somewhere else. I think there
Speaker 1: is a possibility of subterranean UAPs and they might have
Speaker 1: been here for hundreds or thousands of years. Let's start
Speaker 1: with Ron and talk a little bit about the UAP
Speaker 1: activity in and around Bradshaw Ranch. Is there some If so,
Speaker 1: what are people experiencing and seeing and how do you
Speaker 1: see that parallel between some of the other things, the portals,
Speaker 1: the Bigfoot and how does that all tie together in
Speaker 1: your mind?
Speaker 8: Well, Linda Lesley run those SkyWatch things, reports that many
Speaker 8: sightings plasmoids orange ones she's interacting with the laser. The
Speaker 8: Bradshaw Ranch and Sedona are basically if you look at
Speaker 8: the sky aspect of very closed, if there's a bright
Speaker 8: UAP over Bradshaw, you can see it when you're out skywatching,
Speaker 8: night watching on the edge of Sedona or vice versa.
Speaker 8: She's seen crafts when you see the movie. And of
Speaker 8: course we have a book. Who would like people to
Speaker 8: buy two Across the high Strange, I said, brad there
Speaker 8: are pictures in there of a plasmoid or orange one
Speaker 8: which change shape and come turned into something like an angel.
Speaker 8: What are the advantages When a producer like me looks
Speaker 8: at footage, I see things that aren't seen when we're
Speaker 8: running around on the footage. So we captured at least
Speaker 8: two other incidents, some UAP that we can't explain. In addition,
Speaker 8: there was this wealth of uapiece coming out of the portal.
Speaker 8: Aream see these orbs? I guess you might want to
Speaker 8: call In general, that was one of the main things
Speaker 8: that Tom Donald and then the Bradshaw talked about was
Speaker 8: the plus of these things out there. So yeah, if
Speaker 8: you go out there and spent two nights, you're going
Speaker 8: to see one, maybe two, maybe three. They're that common
Speaker 8: in a certain sense there in that area. When you
Speaker 8: do the night vision goggles with Gen three, a Gen
Speaker 8: five or six, you have so much stuff in the sky.
Speaker 8: De tired to believe and like I said Lindon Leslie,
Speaker 8: if you have a laser being you can you can
Speaker 8: beep them and they'll be back at you showing awareness. No,
Speaker 8: you know you're not gonna get a drone or a
Speaker 8: satellite doing that. We've actually filmed that beeping back with
Speaker 8: a laser so shows some kind of intelligence and awareness
Speaker 8: at least there.
Speaker 1: What about you mark outside of the experiences people were
Speaker 1: having in some of the things Ron just talked about,
Speaker 1: how do you draw a parallel between the ua How
Speaker 1: do you think they're connected again subjectively in your opinion,
Speaker 1: how do they play into the portals the Bigfoot, the
Speaker 1: UAPs all together. Do you think it's just one synchroniscerous
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Do you think it's all connected or
Speaker 1: do you think there's something else going on here at large?
Speaker 1: Do you think they're separate phenomenon that are just drawn
Speaker 1: to this area. What do you feel about the whole
Speaker 1: connection with Bigfoot, the UAPs, and the other things that
Speaker 1: are experienced there.
Speaker 6: I love your use of the term synchronous because that
Speaker 6: enables us to draw everything in to a larger sort
Speaker 6: of morphogetic field of what's going on. But I'd like
Speaker 6: to start with the phenomena UAPs, saying go back to
Speaker 6: the old term just for a moment, UFO, because with
Speaker 6: the federal government letting the film of pilots actually seeing
Speaker 6: UFOs flying around, I think we can put to rest
Speaker 6: of the fact whether extra terrestrials exist or not, and
Speaker 6: whether there are spaceships or starships, whatever term you want
Speaker 6: to get to these craft, they exist. What Ron was
Speaker 6: talking about in terms of lasers and the UAPs responding,
Speaker 6: I mean, we can also say that these things have intelligence,
Speaker 6: at least intelligence enough to respond. And I think what
Speaker 6: I'd like to say is that taking the UFO or
Speaker 6: the flying craft and put it to one side, just
Speaker 6: for a moment, because that's something that we can positively
Speaker 6: say exists, and we can look at UAPs, which are
Speaker 6: a little different kettlefish. Now I'm slicing things carefully here.
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to say that UAPs are figments of
Speaker 6: people's imaginations. I'm saying that I want to put them
Speaker 6: in a little bit of different category of the actual
Speaker 6: existence of extra terrestrials like yourself. I believe in them.
Speaker 6: I believe that they've been around for a long time,
Speaker 6: whether visiting our part of the galaxy recently or many
Speaker 6: years ago. But I want to go back to UAPs
Speaker 6: and say that all of these phenomena UAPs, bigfoot portals,
Speaker 6: interdimensional portals, rock art of ancient Native Americans. Native Americans
Speaker 6: have been here for thousands of thousands of year depicting
Speaker 6: these events that they are all connected. They're creating a
Speaker 6: wide space in the universe of science, saying look at me.
Speaker 6: Your physics of the present day only goes so far.
Speaker 6: Take for example, Einstein rosenbridges. These are supposed to be
Speaker 6: black holes or a way of explaining how black holes exist,
Speaker 6: But they don't really explain how black holes exist. They
Speaker 6: don't really explain how portals exist. All these phenomena as saying,
Speaker 6: you're going to have to change your physics, have to
Speaker 6: change your mindset. It's very difficult to change our mindset
Speaker 6: when we don't acknowledge these paranormal events. Instead, as I
Speaker 6: opened the show, I talked about putting on the blinders
Speaker 6: like this. We can put on the blinders and lively
Speaker 6: use our technology to amuse ourselves, or we can take
Speaker 6: the blinders off, look at this larger group that you're
Speaker 6: talking about, put them all together, and see how they
Speaker 6: are affecting us today. So that's my answer, working off
Speaker 6: what you and Ron were discussing.
Speaker 8: Can I tell you my most extraordinary experience at Bridshaw? Please?
Speaker 5: Do you know?
Speaker 8: Mostly I'm thinking about making a movie which I think
Speaker 8: rends me to some of the stuff that's going on
Speaker 8: with other people are experiencing, because you needed a lot
Speaker 8: of shots to make the movie work. The first night
Speaker 8: of our investigation, to local person who's been out there
Speaker 8: many times, you go out midnight. I called Tom Dogo
Speaker 8: and said, what do you think. He said, we'll go
Speaker 8: be out there at seven, and this is late in
Speaker 8: the fall, so it would be dark then. So I
Speaker 8: told the organ, let's meet at six thirty at this
Speaker 8: parking lot where you leave the main road and go
Speaker 8: on the road that goes to Bradshaw Range. The Organ
Speaker 8: has driven him many times and it's pretty simple. He
Speaker 8: just go straight, never turn left. So he was there
Speaker 8: and I texted and I said, we're over here in
Speaker 8: this is you come on and join us. That was
Speaker 8: pretty much you had six thirty. He was had time.
Speaker 8: For some reason, we got lost and we were wandering around,
Speaker 8: driving around in a way that we had nowhere idea
Speaker 8: where we were and how did we get lost. It
Speaker 8: got worse and worse, and my personal feeling, I've had
Speaker 8: a few out of body experiences, were things aren't quite right.
Speaker 8: That was my feeling. At one point, we were trying
Speaker 8: to convince ourselves that we were still on the road
Speaker 8: or where we were seeing lights and buildings we'd never
Speaker 8: seen before. We almost drove off a cliff and they
Speaker 8: kind of freaked us all out. And then all of
Speaker 8: a sudden we were on the main road, mean gravel
Speaker 8: road to Bradshaw and we arrived at seven o'clock. We
Speaker 8: had a sophisticated GPS system on our SUV that we
Speaker 8: are renting, and we looked at it. What it showed
Speaker 8: is that we were doing like this, just wandering riding
Speaker 8: around like a drunken sailor. So we arrived exactly at
Speaker 8: the same time we were supposed to. Yeah, we also
Speaker 8: drove around Loss for a half hour just to complete
Speaker 8: the story. I'm doing a new movie on near death
Speaker 8: experiences that a you're familiar with those. It's a very
Speaker 8: profound experience. People one of the original people who had
Speaker 8: multiple experiences and in old time or research, I told
Speaker 8: her about this experience, so the time move, let's go
Speaker 8: term for it. She said, oh, yeah, I have this ability.
Speaker 8: I can get extra time anytime I want. I'm going
Speaker 8: to write a book now on your death experiences in UAPs,
Speaker 8: going to do it in a month because I can
Speaker 8: get extra time to do it. So that is the
Speaker 8: craziest thing for me. How do you explain that it
Speaker 8: says something's wrong about our little view tongue anyhow normally,
Speaker 8: or maybe it's going on all the time which is
Speaker 8: not aware of it.
Speaker 1: It definitely seems like there's something weird going on. We've
Speaker 1: talked about it a couple of times. Before we get
Speaker 1: out of here, Let's talk a little bit about the film,
Speaker 1: what people can expect to see when they find it,
Speaker 1: where can they find it, And let's talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about the book project and what's in there as well.
Speaker 8: The book in the movie, it's a four length, ninety
Speaker 8: minute movie, is available right now on Amazon Prime. Actually,
Speaker 8: the publisher and the distributor work together to create the
Speaker 8: title art, which I thought was cool. So there's a
Speaker 8: similarity when you look at the web and you see
Speaker 8: the book. The book is really an embellishment of what
Speaker 8: we couldn't explain in the movie, because you can't do
Speaker 8: a lot of explaining in the movie. It's not a
Speaker 8: good medium, a documentary for explaining technical concepts. So that's
Speaker 8: the reason I think broad market deal get a little
Speaker 8: more depth in the experiences like the time loop and
Speaker 8: talk about it the history of it, which you can't
Speaker 8: do in a movie. The book called High Strangers a
Speaker 8: Bradishaw Ranch and it's on Amazon and far as a
Speaker 8: Noble So if you just google Bradshaw Ranch you probably
Speaker 8: get both could say video or world book.
Speaker 5: So Dona Arizona and it's paranormal centerpiece. Ratshaw Ranch is
Speaker 5: one of the most beautiful and mysterious places on the planet,
Speaker 5: a place of high strangeness, a place where var texas
Speaker 5: and interdimensional openings have been occurring for centuries. The place
Speaker 5: recognized as one of the great paranormal hotspots in the world.
Speaker 7: A hotspot is an area known for millennia. So even
Speaker 7: the Native Americans living here going back thousands of yours,
Speaker 7: said they had regular contact with the star beings. In fact,
Speaker 7: they call their star ancestors.
Speaker 5: Today, there is a growing understanding that there's something about
Speaker 5: the underlying geology of Sedona and Bradshaw Ranch that facilitates
Speaker 5: the opening of portals.
Speaker 4: If you look at all the red rock that's fe
Speaker 4: two oh three iron oxide. Iron oxide is inductive electronically,
Speaker 4: and then you have the quartz which is buried underneath here.
Speaker 8: It's a huge layer of it.
Speaker 6: So here you have a combination of the.
Speaker 4: Courts emitting elect trustity electrical energy, and you have the
Speaker 4: red iron oxide added inductance to it. This whole area
Speaker 4: is like a big radio transmitter or radio receiver.
Speaker 5: Over a period of six months, we were able to
Speaker 5: pull together a research team of paranormal investigators, psychics and
Speaker 5: scientists to see if we could capture on film the
Speaker 5: reality responsible for the high strangeness occurring on Bradshaw Ranch.
Speaker 5: What we discovered was evidence that we're not alone in
Speaker 5: the universe.
Speaker 8: There's a creature dancing above you. There's a cold spot
Speaker 8: correctly in front of us.
Speaker 11: Really, it almost looks like eyeball shaped. Oh, there's a
Speaker 11: hot circle that's jumping position within that cold spot.
Speaker 5: Well, we also filmed points to the possibility of a
Speaker 5: new physics and unlimited energy.
Speaker 12: Everything in it is going to seem shifted from our
Speaker 12: point of view. You're gonna get temporal anomalies and things
Speaker 12: like this. So it's not surprising that within that area
Speaker 12: you're gonna have something that you can see, you say,
Speaker 12: a thermal camera bouncing around in there. I mean, you're
Speaker 12: gonna do these little charts. That is definitely an indication
Speaker 12: that you've got these charge clusters operating there.
Speaker 5: Join us on our shocking investigation. Oh, bratch your ranch.
Speaker 6: This is a copy of the book, and Ron was
Speaker 6: talking about the art, which we figure. We thought that
Speaker 6: this captured exactly the high strangeness of what was happening
Speaker 6: to everyone who was there. Now I didn't get to
Speaker 6: experience it. I was back here in Bulder, Colorado. But
Speaker 6: we thought this did it a very fine job of it.
Speaker 1: It looks awesome, the cover is great. I will link
Speaker 1: to those things in the show notes for you guys
Speaker 1: to go check out High Strangeness at Bradshaw Ranch. I
Speaker 1: have not seen the film yet. I'm going to order
Speaker 1: the book tomorrow. I'm excited about both of them. Ron, Mark,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on and sharing those experiences.
Speaker 1: I've had a blast talking to both of you.
Speaker 6: Brian, thank you so much for having us. It was
Speaker 6: a lot of fun.
Speaker 8: We haven't convinced you Bigfoot is a paranormal creature, eder partially.
Speaker 1: You're almost there.
Speaker 4: Ron.
Speaker 1: This is two times that we spent time together. I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit closer down the rabbit hole than I
Speaker 1: was the first time I met you, But no I'm
Speaker 1: still not there. I'll be honest with you, man, We've
Speaker 1: been trying the same thing for fifty sixty years. We're
Speaker 1: not any closer to getting any answer. So I'm at
Speaker 1: the point now where anything's really fair game with me.
Speaker 3: They say, you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay. No,
Speaker 3: I don't want to be. We're all out it, trying
Speaker 3: this job.
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