1 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: And here we go. Welcome to the Big Podcast. It's 2 00:00:27,519 --> 00:00:30,839 Wednesday of the seventeenth day of December, year of our 3 00:00:30,879 --> 00:00:35,240 lower twenty twenty five. My name is Tom Sullivan, and 4 00:00:35,799 --> 00:00:38,399 we got a lot, a lot of updates, more updates 5 00:00:38,439 --> 00:00:42,920 today than seems like that's what we're doing lately. We've 6 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:48,280 got the got a lottery going what is it, I 7 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,320 don't know, Powerball or the Mega millions, one of the 8 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:57,880 one and a quarter billion dollars tonight. I know, all 9 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,439 of a sudden you can become one of those evil billions, 10 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,040 well actually one, because that's if you take the payout 11 00:01:05,799 --> 00:01:09,959 over twenty years or whatever it might be. But the 12 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,280 cash is five hundred seventy two million. I've always always 13 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:18,959 stopped and thought, why does the government, Well they promised 14 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,079 one and a quarter billion, but they only give you 15 00:01:21,159 --> 00:01:25,120 five hundred Only five hundred seventy two million. I think 16 00:01:25,159 --> 00:01:28,400 most people would be happy with. That's the thing nobody complains. 17 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,920 The reason is is they they buy annuities or they 18 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,359 buy treasuries for the future, and they pay it out 19 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,760 over that time. So it's not like they have the 20 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,840 right to check today. But that I would take the cash. 21 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,640 I think most people wind up doing that. We've got 22 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,719 to take a look at the economy. The President tonight 23 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,359 is going to speak to the nation at nine pm 24 00:01:53,480 --> 00:02:01,519 Eastern time. I I'm a little surprised. I've always thought 25 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,959 that the president is going to speak to the nation 26 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:10,879 meant that there was some major, major news that had 27 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,120 to be well, they had to be told to the 28 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,439 rest of the country everybody at once, and it's usually 29 00:02:17,439 --> 00:02:21,919 some point of distress. But apparently this is basically the president. 30 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,639 He's going to do a review of his first year 31 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,400 in a Trump two point zero and a lot of 32 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,800 that obviously will be about the economy, and I'm sure 33 00:02:35,879 --> 00:02:40,000 he's going to give himself a good grade. I one 34 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,879 of the things about the economy that it's going to 35 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,000 take a while. I understand that, but all of this business, 36 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,080 and you know, I'm not a fan of tariffs, but 37 00:02:51,319 --> 00:02:54,039 all of this business about trying to get companies to 38 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,120 come here and build factories and employ people, it takes years. 39 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,039 And I'm looking the I got the manufacturing numbers out 40 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,560 of the jobs report we got yesterday. Manufacturing jobs have 41 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:15,280 dropped to a three year low. Yes, they're really not 42 00:03:15,479 --> 00:03:20,039 doing well. They've been losing jobs in the manufacturing sector 43 00:03:20,599 --> 00:03:24,719 for eleven months in a row. I'm sorry, seven months 44 00:03:24,759 --> 00:03:27,840 in a row, but seven months jobs have been for 45 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,400 manufacturing have gone downhill. Will will this all this business 46 00:03:32,479 --> 00:03:36,479 about getting tariffs to get people to build their factories here, 47 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:42,919 will it actually come to fruition and will it come 48 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:48,439 to fruition before? I would say another six or seven 49 00:03:48,479 --> 00:03:52,159 months that I know, the elections not till November, the midterms, 50 00:03:52,759 --> 00:03:57,000 but people start making their minds up sometime this next summer, 51 00:03:57,319 --> 00:03:59,919 so we'll see what he asked to say. Frank Luntz, 52 00:04:00,919 --> 00:04:05,599 the Polster, talking about what the president needs to do 53 00:04:05,759 --> 00:04:07,400 tonight in his address. 54 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: To the nation, has to now. No one's making a 55 00:04:10,719 --> 00:04:14,000 decision about twenty twenty six or what happens now over 56 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,240 Christmas in twenty twenty five. But I watched Joe Biden 57 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:20,279 in twenty one and twenty two in the holiday season 58 00:04:20,399 --> 00:04:24,839 completely dismiss inflation concerns, and we know that it damaged 59 00:04:24,879 --> 00:04:28,560 him for the rest of his administration. Trump understand President 60 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,240 Trump understands that and understands that he has to change 61 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,160 the perception. But it's hard to do when food prices 62 00:04:36,199 --> 00:04:38,839 are as high as they are. Healthcare prices are as 63 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,639 high as they are, and they're having this fight right 64 00:04:40,639 --> 00:04:44,480 now in Congress over whether or not to continue the subsidies. 65 00:04:44,879 --> 00:04:48,519 Nobody cares about the details. They care about the overall cost. 66 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,279 And if Americans believe that affordability is a crisis, then 67 00:04:53,319 --> 00:05:00,240 it is a crisis. In the end, it's do you 68 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,240 have more money at the end of the day. And 69 00:05:02,319 --> 00:05:05,240 the truth is, it's not about wages, it's about costs. 70 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,879 Even if your wages go up, if you can't afford 71 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,800 that car, if you can't afford that health insurance, you 72 00:05:10,879 --> 00:05:14,240 say that inflation's a real problem. First, I'm impressed that 73 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,879 they're finally calling it affordability, because that's what it is. 74 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,879 It's not inflation. Second is that he does recognize it, 75 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,399 which is why he's doing the speech. And third he 76 00:05:22,399 --> 00:05:25,879 says he does have the ability to communicate, to change 77 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,639 and communicate a message that says I hear you, I 78 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,519 get it, and in a specific response to your question. 79 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,120 That's the key, the empathy, the understanding. Don't tell someone 80 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,160 that it's happy days are here again and it's nineteen 81 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:42,519 twenty nine. Nobody will believe it. In the end, you 82 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:45,759 have to acknowledge what they're seeing what they're feeling and 83 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:46,680 then lean into it. 84 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: I think Frank A. Louts put it pretty well. You 85 00:05:49,879 --> 00:05:54,439 can't deny it, you can't call it a hoax, You've 86 00:05:54,439 --> 00:05:57,240 got to acknowledge it. I think the person in the 87 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,240 White House that does the very best and explain this 88 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,600 in a realistic way is Kevin Hassett, who is the 89 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,600 National Council Economic Advisor to the President, and he talks 90 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:11,040 about the fact that during the Biden administration, you and 91 00:06:11,079 --> 00:06:15,439 I lost three thousand dollars worth of purchasing power and 92 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,040 that they have gained back about twelve hundred dollars and 93 00:06:20,079 --> 00:06:24,800 they have great hopes for twenty twenty six. But hope's 94 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,759 not a strategy. It's nice. But we'll see how this 95 00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:34,000 all works out. But the president's very good at selling 96 00:06:34,079 --> 00:06:39,160 people on his ideas, and we'll see how well he 97 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:43,519 does on the speech tonight, and hopefully he embraces the 98 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,800 fact that, yeah, there's a lot of people want to 99 00:06:45,879 --> 00:06:49,399 hear what it is that the White House is doing 100 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:55,279 to make things more affordable. I guess there's also going 101 00:06:55,319 --> 00:06:58,680 to be he's going to talk about the what do 102 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,560 they call him the Trump accounts. These are the accounts 103 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,600 that people have been talking about, but nobody's really focused 104 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,600 in on. Apparently the President's going to do it tonight. 105 00:07:07,319 --> 00:07:09,720 Is he's going to talk about the Trump Accounts for children. 106 00:07:10,279 --> 00:07:13,720 This is the one thousand dollars that will be put 107 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:19,879 into an account for every baby born between in twenty 108 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:26,560 twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven and twenty eight, four 109 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,600 years during the Trump administration. And they're going to put 110 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:34,000 one thousand dollars in an account for every single child born. 111 00:07:34,199 --> 00:07:41,079 The idea is to give them some ownership in finances, 112 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,319 in a financial asset that they may actually be more 113 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:50,079 interested in managing their money someday. But this is one 114 00:07:50,079 --> 00:07:54,079 thousand dollars and it's got to be invested in. They're 115 00:07:54,120 --> 00:08:00,199 going to have some very conservative stock funds. And if well, 116 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,360 I did a little math, if you put one thousand 117 00:08:03,399 --> 00:08:07,519 dollars in an account and you don't do anything with it, 118 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,519 and let's say it gets I don't know, five percent 119 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:18,839 in eighteen years, the child gets the money, well, the 120 00:08:18,959 --> 00:08:23,439 thousand dollars in eighteen years will be two thousand, four 121 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,000 hundred and six dollars. That's if you don't do anything. 122 00:08:27,079 --> 00:08:30,240 But if you put one thousand dollars in. If the 123 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,120 government puts one thousand dollars in, you and me as taxpayers, 124 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:38,080 we're going to put a thousand dollars in every child's hands, 125 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:42,600 and if they parents are or grandparents or somebody. I 126 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,480 saw Michael Dell from Dell Computer put in six billion. 127 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,679 That's going to be somehow distributed as well into kids' pockets. 128 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,720 And Ray Dallio, the billionaire hedge fund guy, he's going 129 00:08:55,759 --> 00:08:58,240 to put in a huge amount of money as well. 130 00:08:58,279 --> 00:09:02,399 So these may be bigger than what their first glance 131 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,720 at these things. Right anyway, if you put one thousand 132 00:09:04,799 --> 00:09:07,440 dollars one thousand dollars in in eighteen years, it'll be 133 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,960 worth two thousand, four hundred and six. If you put 134 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,279 a thousand the government puts one thousand dollars in now, 135 00:09:13,399 --> 00:09:18,440 and the parents, grandparents, Ray Daly, Michael Dell, somebody puts 136 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,120 in more money. If you put in one thousand dollars 137 00:09:21,159 --> 00:09:27,080 a year for eighteen years at five percent, you'll have 138 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:33,200 thirty thousand dollars. Well, you wouldn't leave thirty thousand dollars 139 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,399 on a park bench, so it's it's it's better than nothing. 140 00:09:37,639 --> 00:09:41,320 I think the real key to this though, is that 141 00:09:41,399 --> 00:09:44,759 it will get not all of them, but a number 142 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,600 of them that will all of a sudden be interested in, Hey, 143 00:09:47,639 --> 00:09:50,440 wait a minute, this is my money, how's it doing, 144 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:54,480 what's it invested in, what's the how's the stock market doing? 145 00:09:55,120 --> 00:10:00,759 So there's there's more to this than just a transactions. 146 00:10:00,799 --> 00:10:03,799 So only way that's going to be talked about tonight 147 00:10:03,919 --> 00:10:07,600 as well. So the people with the lottery, if you win, 148 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,600 you don't have to worry about the Trump accounts. You 149 00:10:11,639 --> 00:10:14,559 can fund your own children's accounts and all of that. 150 00:10:15,039 --> 00:10:20,000 So that's tonight primetime address, nine o'clock Eastern time. He's 151 00:10:20,039 --> 00:10:25,679 expected to talk about the things that he gets good 152 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:35,759 reaction on immigration, all of that, but his approval ratings 153 00:10:35,799 --> 00:10:40,080 for the immigration and the economy are not what they were, 154 00:10:40,759 --> 00:10:44,440 So we'll see how he does this evening. As far 155 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:51,480 as another item that affects your pocketbook is healthcare, and no, 156 00:10:51,919 --> 00:10:54,399 Congress is not going to get anything done before the 157 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:59,159 end of the year. That's when the Obamacare subsidies that 158 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:04,639 the Democrats put in back in five years ago. It's 159 00:11:04,639 --> 00:11:08,039 supposed to expire December thirty first of this year. That 160 00:11:08,279 --> 00:11:13,240 means you're everybody's healthcare premiums, especially those on Obamacare policies, 161 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:17,960 are going to go up significantly starting January first. I 162 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,720 was looking at my health insurance, my family's sealth insurance. 163 00:11:21,759 --> 00:11:25,960 Ours are all going way up. We're not on Obamacare policies, 164 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:30,720 but insurance is going to go way up, and somebody's 165 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,320 got to get a hold of this insurance thing. Obamacare 166 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:36,000 was a bad product from the beginning, and it's just 167 00:11:36,159 --> 00:11:43,240 showing how it is falling apart. So today four Republicans 168 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:50,720 joined in with the Democrats to do a petition to 169 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,120 force the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, to hold 170 00:11:55,279 --> 00:12:02,759 a vote on extending theies for some period of time. 171 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,399 Mike Johnson said, no, I'm not going to do that. 172 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,240 So four Republicans joined, one of them Mike Lawler, who 173 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,519 is a Republican representing a district north of New York 174 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:18,080 City in the New York State. And what he's in 175 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,600 a district that Kamala Harris won is New York. So 176 00:12:21,759 --> 00:12:26,200 he's trying to figure out how to do something, and 177 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,600 this is his explanation about why he and three other 178 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,840 Republicans joined in with the Democrats to at least force 179 00:12:32,879 --> 00:12:36,240 a vote in the House about Obamacare subsidy. 180 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,279 Speaker 3: Look, we had a government shutdown for forty three days, 181 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,399 and Democrats said this was an existential crisis. And so 182 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,440 when the government reopened, I sat down in a good faith, 183 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:52,240 bipartisan way with my Democratic colleagues and my Republican colleagues 184 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,919 to broker a compromised piece of legislation that would extend 185 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:02,519 the subsidies but put serious in place. We worked to 186 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:08,039 get that through our House Republican leadership, to have them 187 00:13:08,039 --> 00:13:09,919 put it on the floor for an up or down 188 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,440 vote and let the process work and allow the House 189 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,039 to do its business. Ultimately, we could not reach agreement 190 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,320 with House Republican leadership about putting those bills up for 191 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:26,159 a vote. We introduced them as discharge petitions. Eleven Republicans 192 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:31,360 signed on to two of those bipartisan compromise bills. We 193 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,879 do not have enough Democrats on them. The clock is ticking, 194 00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:39,799 and so ultimately I and three others Brian Fitzpatrick, Rob 195 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,240 Resnahan and Ryan McKenzie, were left with no choice but 196 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:48,200 to sign the three year discharge and force an actual 197 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,679 vote on the House floor. Ultimately, if it passes the House, 198 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,080 it'll have to go to the Senate. We saw this 199 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,279 three year bill fail in the Senate last week when 200 00:13:59,399 --> 00:14:02,600 Chuck Schumer put it up for a boat. So the 201 00:14:02,639 --> 00:14:05,320 final product will have to be a compromise. And that's 202 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,879 been my point from the start. Do the work, do 203 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,879 the bipartisan compromise. And frankly, this is important both leaders. 204 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,960 Both leaders have failed here because we don't have a 205 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,200 bill on the floor, and Hakeem Jeffries is sticking with 206 00:14:20,279 --> 00:14:23,440 his three years or bust with no reforms. Creates a 207 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:26,120 real challenge to get something done. 208 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, so are they going to hold a boat in 209 00:14:27,919 --> 00:14:32,039 the House. Probably then it will pass, but it will 210 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,679 go to the Senate. It will die there. But Mike Lawler, 211 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,279 like I said, as a Republican from New York State, 212 00:14:38,639 --> 00:14:43,039 the other three Republicans are all from Pennsylvania. So they're 213 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,200 putting it up for a boat. It'll go over to 214 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,080 the Senate. It will die there. Even if it somehow 215 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,039 got through the Senate, it would have to go to 216 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,080 the President. He would probably veto this whole thing. But so, 217 00:14:53,159 --> 00:14:57,720 in other words, stand by for health insurance to go 218 00:14:58,159 --> 00:15:02,840 much higher for you, for me, for everybody, Obamacare or 219 00:15:02,919 --> 00:15:07,480 not Obamacare. And that is one of the biggest problems 220 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:11,919 facing the Republicans in the as we zero in on 221 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,600 the midterms is affordability, which is the cost of things, 222 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,799 which is groceries and gas. Has gotten a lot better, 223 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,559 but it's not back to where it was, but it's 224 00:15:23,559 --> 00:15:28,440 still a lot better. So groceries and health insurance, and 225 00:15:28,799 --> 00:15:31,360 these are the things that you can bet the Democrats 226 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:37,120 are going to beat the advertising of the fact that 227 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,000 Republicans are the reason why affordability is so bad. That 228 00:15:41,039 --> 00:15:44,279 would be my if I was advising the Democrats, that's 229 00:15:44,519 --> 00:15:49,200 I would focus on those two things. And so the 230 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,399 President tonight is going to try and sell you on 231 00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:55,320 the fact that there's a lot going in the right direction. 232 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,320 See if we can turn that around or not. Some 233 00:15:59,399 --> 00:16:04,159 additional news out today about it got very little publicity. 234 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,919 I think it was overwhelmed by the shooting at Brown 235 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,679 University and also the Rob Reiner and his wife murder. 236 00:16:14,039 --> 00:16:17,200 But there were four people today. A fifth person has 237 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:24,440 been arrested in a plot to bomb Los Angeles on 238 00:16:24,759 --> 00:16:28,759 New Year's Eve. And the whole idea about this was 239 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,159 that at midnight when the ball drops in LA they 240 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:37,879 were going to have bombs in four different locations going off. 241 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,159 That would be obviously people would confuse it with firecrackers 242 00:16:43,279 --> 00:16:46,840 or whatever, but would be destructive and deadly. And you 243 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,159 wonder if that was the case in Los Angeles, what 244 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:55,039 about us elsewhere? Every time New Year's comes around, you 245 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,200 kind of hold your breath, hoping that maybe the terrorists 246 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,799 out there are going to give it a pass. But 247 00:17:01,879 --> 00:17:05,880 that's what's that's what's going on. Fifth person arrested today. 248 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:12,160 And speaking of crime, So some movement today at Brown 249 00:17:12,279 --> 00:17:18,920 University on their efforts to find the person of interest. No, 250 00:17:20,039 --> 00:17:25,799 they haven't. However, they came out with a video late 251 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:31,279 this afternoon of another person and they say, this other 252 00:17:31,319 --> 00:17:33,559 person is and they have a bunch of video of 253 00:17:33,559 --> 00:17:36,920 this guy and his there's a bunch of of they've 254 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,440 stopped the video where you can clearly see the camera 255 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,920 whatever they got to this guy. Cameras were very clear 256 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,480 and was face on and you if you know the guy, 257 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:52,440 it's clear who he is. Anyway, the Providence, Rhode Island 258 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,640 police want to talk to this guy because apparently he 259 00:17:55,799 --> 00:18:02,000 came into some proximity with the person of interest. You're 260 00:18:02,079 --> 00:18:05,400 John Miller kind of explaining what they're looking for. 261 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 4: Well, they're talking about an encounter where they were within 262 00:18:08,839 --> 00:18:11,960 a close proximity of each other, and what the chief 263 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,160 said summed it up, which is, you know, I wish 264 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,680 the videos had sound, but we don't. So what they're 265 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,960 trying to determine is, let's do some important framing here. 266 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,319 Number One, they're crystal clear that this is not a 267 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,680 person of interest as in a suspect. This is someone 268 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,119 who they believe may have nothing to do with us 269 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,599 at all, but may have spoken to encountered, gotten a 270 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,279 closer look, may have even talked to the person who 271 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,599 they believe is a suspect. So they want to know 272 00:18:41,839 --> 00:18:48,000 things like do you know this person? Did you speak 273 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:50,359 to this person? Did he have a high pitch voice 274 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,160 or a low pitch voice, was there an accent? 275 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:52,839 Speaker 1: All that? 276 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 4: But to get there, they first have to find that 277 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,400 person and say was there this encounter other than you 278 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,039 briefly passed by each other and seem to linger for 279 00:19:01,079 --> 00:19:04,200 a minute. And that can have three potential outcomes that 280 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,839 we've experienced in other cases. Number One, that person sees 281 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,000 their own picture on TV and says, hey, that's me 282 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,519 and calls in. Number Two, a friend of that person 283 00:19:13,599 --> 00:19:15,720 sees his own picture and calls him and says, hey, 284 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:18,359 that's you. You should reach out to them, or a 285 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,960 third somebody who knows him reaches out and says, I 286 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,200 think I know who that is. They would really like 287 00:19:23,279 --> 00:19:27,759 to eliminate that as an angle, which is if they 288 00:19:27,839 --> 00:19:30,119 just passed by each other and had to step around 289 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,440 each other, that's one thing. But if there was contact 290 00:19:32,599 --> 00:19:36,680 or conversation, or if that person actually recognized the other guy, 291 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:37,880 that could mean a lot. 292 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're looking for this other guy to basically 293 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:45,720 come talk to them. Ed Davis, former Boston Police Commissioner, 294 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,359 was asked about how he thinks this is going. 295 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 5: There are a few things that happened in the last 296 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,440 twenty four hours that I think are important. I would 297 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,160 point to a statement made by Attorney General Pete and 298 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:04,319 Narona about the nature of leads that they're chasing down, 299 00:20:04,759 --> 00:20:07,079 and he even went so far as to say that 300 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:13,160 he expected an apprehension in the near future. You don't 301 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,200 as a public official, you don't make a statement like 302 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,559 that unless you're onto something. So to me, that telegraphed 303 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,359 some strong leads that they're working on right now. The 304 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,720 other thing I think is really important is the clothing 305 00:20:25,759 --> 00:20:29,119 that the suspect is wearing on two fronts. One is 306 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,039 that that's a rather unique jacket that he's got on. 307 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:39,119 It's a large size and it's a unique kind of design. 308 00:20:39,559 --> 00:20:43,240 And I think they can check with manufacturers. I'm sure 309 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,759 they already know who the manufacturer of that jacket is, 310 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,279 and then they can look for distribution outlets in the 311 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,680 area and start to comb through those lists of people 312 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,240 who have purchased that jacket over the last year or two. 313 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,759 That may give them the lead that they need. It 314 00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:02,440 was a clue like that was really helpful in the 315 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,200 boss in the Washington bombing case. So there's a lot 316 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,920 going on right now, and I'm satisfied that because it 317 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,680 takes a while to get this video compiled and run 318 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,839 down leads like I just mentioned that they're in a 319 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,519 good place right now in the investigation. Well, I've been 320 00:21:21,559 --> 00:21:25,359 through this exact same set of circumstances where we put 321 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,440 the photos out expecting to get a phone call in hours, 322 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,680 and it didn't happen. It wasn't until the suspects became 323 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,799 active in the Boston Marathon case that we get onto them. 324 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:41,039 But people recognize them and some of their friends not 325 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,200 only didn't tell the police, but they took active measures 326 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,920 to destroy evidence and try to protect the suspects, despite 327 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,799 the heinousness of the crime that could be happening right now. 328 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,559 That video of the suspect, if you're related to him 329 00:21:55,839 --> 00:21:59,200 or you're familiar with him, the clothing that he wears, 330 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,400 the way he wants, the way that man's carrying himself 331 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,160 even though he runs, those are clues that if you're 332 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,000 very familiar with the suspect, are going to point to him. 333 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,960 And tragically, no one's called yet. So hopefully they're struggling 334 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,160 with that right now and will eventually make the right 335 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,720 decision because they are in legal carol if they don't 336 00:22:17,759 --> 00:22:18,839 call so. 337 00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:22,799 Speaker 1: Ed Davis was asked about the safety of the citizens, 338 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:25,640 the safety of people that are bringing their children to school. 339 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,400 The Brown's been let out, but there's still people working there. 340 00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:34,720 What about the messaging from the mayor about how they 341 00:22:34,759 --> 00:22:37,279 don't know where this guy is. Here's Mayor Smiley. 342 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,759 Speaker 6: The leads that were running down are giving us more 343 00:22:40,759 --> 00:22:44,920 information regularly, but the location of the individual right now 344 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:49,160 is not known. My message to the community is that 345 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,440 we are doing everything possible to help them take the 346 00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:58,440 first tentative steps forward because one way or another. Right now, residents, 347 00:22:59,079 --> 00:23:01,599 my neighbors, you know, they still need to go to work, 348 00:23:01,759 --> 00:23:04,920 kids still need to go to school, and so we're 349 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,359 providing enhanced police protection and visible coverage. 350 00:23:09,599 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: So you're on your own, take your chances. They can't 351 00:23:13,079 --> 00:23:18,000 hide in their basements. Paul Morrow, former NYPD, was up 352 00:23:18,079 --> 00:23:20,799 in Providence taking a look at the scene. 353 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,599 Speaker 7: I mean, it's very hard to say. Just let's remember 354 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,359 that they sent everybody home. The school has told everybody 355 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,440 that finals a canceled school is over for the semester, 356 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,240 and that's a parent. Here on the streets, they're relatively deserted, 357 00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:37,200 to be clear, the building that we're at, which is 358 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,640 where the shooting occurred, is right on the edge. It's 359 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,440 realistically the first aspect of Brown University that you hit 360 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,599 when you walk out of the adjacent residential neighborhood. There's 361 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,160 a neighborhood right here. It's very affluent, a lot of 362 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,720 houses that are behind walls, well set back, which I 363 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,079 think explains the paucity of private videos that they've been 364 00:23:58,079 --> 00:24:01,400 able to get from ring cameras and like. So whether 365 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,400 or not they're safe, the police very clearly they're trying 366 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,960 to walk that fine line between creating an element of 367 00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:09,960 panic but reassuring people that they're doing everything that they 368 00:24:10,039 --> 00:24:13,119 can and that people should go about their lives. Hot Lee, right, 369 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,279 and we saw this. I know I've name checked it before, 370 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:16,880 but the public knows it, so I use it the 371 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,920 coburger case that happened University of Idaho at Moscow and 372 00:24:21,079 --> 00:24:24,319 same situation there. They canceled the rest of classes. The 373 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,920 kids that were going to the school, they all dispersed, 374 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:29,200 and as a result, when it came time to do 375 00:24:29,319 --> 00:24:32,359 some interviews, they had to actually rely on police all 376 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,160 around the country to go knock on doors and ask 377 00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:37,200 you there and what did you see. I suspect there's 378 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,960 going to be some of that here as well. And 379 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,240 there's also the fact that, as I said, because this 380 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,920 is adjacent to a residential neighborhood, during the weekend and 381 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,240 the immediate aftermath of the event, because it happened on 382 00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:50,960 a Saturday, a lot of these people were not home. 383 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,240 Some of them might not still be home because they're 384 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,279 may be gone to Florida for the season or something 385 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,119 like that. And that's why you're seeing video dribble in 386 00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:02,119 because they're canvassing very hard going further and further out 387 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,119 trying to get a hold of people that have either 388 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,200 just return them, maybe even getting a hold of them 389 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,440 wherever they are and saying can you get somebody to 390 00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:10,920 let us in and access to your ring camera, or 391 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,799 they're going right to the source and saying we need 392 00:25:13,799 --> 00:25:15,799 to consent from you because we're going to pull video 393 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,039 from the video company. 394 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,799 Speaker 1: So the students that were witnesses to the shooting have scattered, 395 00:25:20,839 --> 00:25:24,359 they've been sent home. Now the question is, like I said, 396 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,839 people are still there. There are some students there, There 397 00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:29,880 are certainly faculty and staff that are still working at Brown. 398 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:36,039 Is there any sort of armed security there to protect them? 399 00:25:36,079 --> 00:25:38,680 Since nobody knows where the bad guy is. Brown is 400 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:39,640 his own police force. 401 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,519 Speaker 7: There are actual gun carrying police force, the Brown University Police, 402 00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:46,359 and they actually responded ultimately, they were the ones who 403 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,960 would be responsible for activating the sirens, etc. They have 404 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,400 a chief of security as well. And I think, and 405 00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:55,640 you know, not to use an unfortunate metaphor, but you're 406 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,680 right over the target because you got to say to yourself, 407 00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:01,599 how is it that in a building that is not 408 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,960 only at the edge of campus, which says to me, 409 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,359 you got to be very cognizant of people wandering in 410 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,920 and out, not even shooters, just trespassers, people that are homeless, 411 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,359 or people looking to do a burglary. How is it 412 00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:16,920 that the outer salient of your campus, which is where 413 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:20,119 one of the most busy classes that they have is held. 414 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,240 How is it that the Ingress and Egress doesn't have 415 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,000 a simple camera, The kind of ring cameras that we're 416 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,759 even talking about in a private home costs next to 417 00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:31,559 nothing in the course of a university budget. 418 00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:32,559 Speaker 1: They don't have that. 419 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,599 Speaker 7: On a day that there were a number of things 420 00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:37,880 going on on a Saturday during final season, they apparently 421 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,359 had either cropped open the door or literally deactivated the 422 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,160 card access during the day, and there was no security guard. 423 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:48,519 So you really do have to question why it is 424 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:51,799 that the building was so insecure and why we're not 425 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,119 hearing more about that. Let's remember, a place like Brown 426 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,279 drives the economy in this town. And I don't think 427 00:26:58,279 --> 00:27:01,079 it's any accident that there have been so many politicians 428 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,480 at the lectern and yet we're not hearing a whole 429 00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:04,440 lot from Browning. 430 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Brown Security, there's nobody that's come to the lecturn. 431 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,680 It's all full of politicians. You got the mayor, you 432 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:14,519 got the attorney general. Well, you do have the chief 433 00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:16,319 of police, but they don't give him much time, and 434 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,319 he's got a fairly thick accent, so it's kind of 435 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,319 hard to understand him. One more from law enforcement who 436 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,079 has a very analytical like Chris Wecker, former FBI. 437 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,079 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a clear indication that they I wouldn't say 438 00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:34,640 they've hit a dead end, but they just don't have 439 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,440 any solid leads on the identification of this subject. So 440 00:27:39,319 --> 00:27:41,759 when that happens, you do go out to the public 441 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,920 and you try to get their help. You put out 442 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,640 the fifty thousand dollars reward, and I'm sure that has 443 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,720 primed the pump, and leads are coming in and there 444 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,640 are analysts. Are probably as many analysts working on this 445 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,319 case as are are agents and investigators because they have 446 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,759 to triage those leads, get them out to it for action. 447 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,880 To investigators who hit, you know, hit the streets and 448 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,519 do whatever needs to be done to follow it up 449 00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:06,480 and run it out. But they're they're stumped, and they're 450 00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:09,200 going to the public and as has happened in a 451 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,319 lot of cases, that that will solve this case. I 452 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,119 think the video is good enough, and I think that 453 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,599 we're gonna we're gonna see more video come out of this. 454 00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:19,720 I think they got a little bit of a late 455 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:22,960 jump on doing the neighborhood canvas. When you want to 456 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,839 get out there as quickly as you can with two 457 00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:27,119 person teams and knock on every door and talk to 458 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,119 everybody driving by and get that ring video. I think 459 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,839 they're a little bit behind on that, but I think 460 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,200 they're I think they're catching up now. I mean, this 461 00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:38,400 is what happens when you get politicians running investigations. As 462 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,960 you see the mayor and you see the governor out 463 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,799 there doing all the talking that what it may help 464 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,319 with is one if there's a particular group that he 465 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,759 was targeting, or you know, a particular uh, race or 466 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,160 sex or whatever, then that they would be they would 467 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,559 be on warning. You can't issue an all clear signal 468 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,000 when you don't know who the suspect is and you 469 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,079 I don't know where they are so that you know, 470 00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:05,759 whether that's inexperience or just their political leanings, we don't know. 471 00:29:05,839 --> 00:29:09,119 But I think that's relevant information that you can put 472 00:29:09,119 --> 00:29:11,599 out to the general public. Right now, there are a 473 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,359 lot of details that can go out there that may 474 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,319 help identify this person. And you know, we're at that 475 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,640 phase now. We're not trying to build a prosecution right now, 476 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,440 we're trying to identify a suspect. So you can put 477 00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:24,880 a little bit more information out there than you normally 478 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,240 would if, say, a prosecution was pending. 479 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:30,519 Speaker 1: So one more wrinkle to add to the confusion about 480 00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:34,519 what's going on with the mass shooting at Brown University. 481 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:40,440 There was a professor at MIT who was shot and 482 00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:46,519 killed in his home. This apparently happened last night. He 483 00:29:46,839 --> 00:29:51,200 is in Brookline, which is a suburb of Boston. I 484 00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:54,279 looked on the map, it's forty eight miles from Providence 485 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,119 to Brookline. And so the question that the media covering 486 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,599 the Brown story asking is could this be related? The 487 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,759 Providence police said no. Chris Wecker said maybe yeah. 488 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 8: I mean, look, they said there's no connection between these 489 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,759 two and they don't know. You know, they're not putting 490 00:30:11,799 --> 00:30:14,480 out any information at all. That doesn't mean they aren't 491 00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:18,440 looking for that connection. And you know, this is ongoing 492 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,200 obviously ongoing investigation. We'll get more later, but I would 493 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,079 say that they haven't ruled out a connection. 494 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,119 Speaker 1: They just said there is. 495 00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:28,279 Speaker 8: They haven't seen a connection yet. 496 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: All right, So just one more thing to add to 497 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,519 the confusion going on up there at the courthouse today 498 00:30:36,519 --> 00:30:40,799 in Los Angeles. Nick Reiner did show up. It was interesting. 499 00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:44,119 They put him in a in kind of a glass 500 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,680 partially glass, partially covered, not a pen, just an area 501 00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:52,960 next to the court for prisoners to come in and 502 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,119 basically be able to see the judge and the judge 503 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,680 can see them. They brought Nick Reiner in and he 504 00:30:58,839 --> 00:31:01,599 sat down so you could not see him, and the 505 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,880 court ruled that they don't want any video or photos 506 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,799 of him, which I thought was kind of interesting. After 507 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,000 the court hearing, this was essentially rules but for the 508 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,400 media not to be able to video Nick Reiner. It 509 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,359 basically turned into essentially the ability for Nick Rener to 510 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,640 waive his right to a speedy trial. The judge ordered 511 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,480 him kept in jail with no bail. Alan Jackson is 512 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,200 his lawyer who spoke briefly out of the whole thing 513 00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:40,119 took just a few minutes. Alan Jackson spoke briefly to 514 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,359 the media out in front of the courthouse. 515 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,079 Speaker 9: During this process, you allow the system to move forward 516 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,160 in the way that it was designed. To move forward, 517 00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:51,720 not with a rush to judgment, not with jumping to conclusions, 518 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,000 but with restraint and with dignity and with the respect 519 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,160 that this system and this process deserves, and the the 520 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,599 family deserves. So with that, we are set for January 521 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,839 seventh for an arraignment. 522 00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:08,799 Speaker 1: That's the next court date. And that's all I have 523 00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:09,839 to say at this point. 524 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,119 Speaker 9: There may be more at some other point, but today 525 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,839 we're going to rest on where we stand stand procedurally, 526 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,240 which is this was a continuance of an arraignment. Nothing 527 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,359 happened today substantively. We'll be back for an arraignment in 528 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,960 the same department on the seventh of January. 529 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,519 Speaker 1: We'll see you then, Prappy. Yeah, so nopolea has been 530 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,240 entered yet. We'll see what they actually come up with. 531 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,480 John Ritter, defense lawyer, is his assessment of what happened 532 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,160 at court today. 533 00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 10: Yeah, And I'm not sure what else he's going to 534 00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:40,039 be able to say at this point. He knows he's 535 00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:41,799 got his work cut out for him. I guess he's 536 00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:44,839 asking the public to just reserve judgment until some of 537 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,200 the facts start to come forward. I will say this 538 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,160 though about Alan, and I haven't known him for a 539 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,920 very long time, both as a prosecutor and defense attorneys, 540 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,319 that he is not the type to sit on his 541 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,759 hand to let the case come to him. He kind 542 00:32:56,759 --> 00:33:00,279 of approaches defense cases much more like a prosecute and 543 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:03,480 going out and trying to find the evidence himself and 544 00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:06,720 doing a lot of investigation proactively on his own behalf. 545 00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:08,799 We saw that yesterday when him and his team were 546 00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:12,200 actually out at the crime scene. But given what we 547 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,880 already know about this case, even the small amount of 548 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,839 information that's been trickling out, I will say it's starting 549 00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:20,119 to look like a very strong case for the prosecution. 550 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: So that kind of goes into just a process story. 551 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,720 Now at this point, I would think meantime, if you 552 00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:31,319 win that lottery, you might want to know what the 553 00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:35,119 stock market's doing. Well today I wasn't doing much. We 554 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,279 had another sell off day to day. Dow Jones Industrials 555 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:42,200 fell two hundred and twenty eight down to forty seven 556 00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:45,480 thousand and eight eighty five, The S and P down 557 00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:49,519 seventy eight. The nasdak OUCHC got hit four hundred and 558 00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:54,039 eighteen points lower price a goal up thirty nine dollars 559 00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:58,400 to forty three seventy one, and oil bounced back up 560 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,519 off of that low we saw yesterday lois we've seen 561 00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:04,759 for oil in four years. Oil went up a buck 562 00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:06,799 and a half to day to fifty seven dollars for 563 00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:09,920 a barrel of oil. That's it for today. Thank you 564 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,400 for coming by. We will do this again tomorrow. We 565 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,480 hope to see you then.