WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:06.280 Check podcasts. 2 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:10.160 Thanks for listening to the Donnie and Dolly podcast. Catch 3 00:00:10.199 --> 00:00:13.279 the show Monday through Fudday, ten am to noon on Check. 4 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:15.519 I think you're gonna want to hear this. 5 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:21.440 Your local sports coverage lives here to nothing. 6 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:26.039 It's Alva not so fast cohole Breath with Don taymor 7 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:28.679 I say that the winner of the draft lottery should 8 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:29.920 be the winner of a two man loose. 9 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:32.719 And Rick Dolly Wall I had a cherry tree up 10 00:00:32.799 --> 00:00:34.640 Little Ricky. I used to go up that tree and 11 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:37.000 just sit there for hours and munch on those cherry. 12 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:47.240 Years Donnie and Dolly. 13 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:48.840 Ten o'clock downtown Vancouver where the Paul Carson Studio. Thanks 14 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:50.759 for tuning in, folks. It's Sonia Dolly the team on 15 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:53.719 Check Don Taylor, along with Rick Dolly Wall. Ryan Henderson 16 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:56.280 is our producer. He's the man that the controls are director. 17 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:59.759 The voice of God is Derek. How you doing lovely? 18 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:03.759 I got before we get into the hockey, I just 19 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:07.319 have to say it is just incredible going home every 20 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:11.000 night and as you know, we get off earlier than 21 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:15.560 most people and watching the World Cup and for the 22 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:19.120 second time, this combination of Messi Hallan and and Boppy 23 00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:24.280 coming through two goals each in their respective clubs, the 24 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:29.120 respective countries victories yesterday thirteen goals combined over two matches. 25 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:32.319 Talk about coming through and of course tomorrow at BC Place. 26 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:36.239 Yesterday or probably last week, we talked about the Katar 27 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:41.680 game and the most important match in Canadian men's soccer history, 28 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:45.680 trumped by don't mind me using that word, by what's 29 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:48.400 going to happen tomorrow. Tomorrow the most important match in 30 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:53.040 Canadian men's soccer history. It's just been absolutely a wonderful 31 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:55.560 whether you're a big soccer fan or not. The entertainment 32 00:01:55.640 --> 00:01:58.000 value has been off the charts and you can just 33 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:00.640 feel the energy coming through the television said, it really 34 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:04.200 is a special envious if anybody who gets to go 35 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:07.280 to that game tomorrow at BC plays Canada and Switzerland, 36 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:10.800 Canada draws or when wins and they move on to 37 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:13.439 the round of thirty two and will play July second 38 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:20.800 again at BC Place. Hockey Mike Babcock this morning officially 39 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:26.080 the nineteenth head coach at ebonton oiler's history, and we 40 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:31.520 understand that Dj Smith, who worked with the Kings on 41 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:37.199 an interim basis as head coach this past season, replacing Hiller. 42 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:38.120 Jim Hiller. 43 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:40.520 He's going to go from LA to Edmonton to work 44 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:44.360 with his old buddy Mike Babcock. They worked together in Toronto. 45 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:49.439 DJ Smith was Mike Babcock's assistant. But Mike Babcock, this 46 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:52.680 is real, This is actually happening. You're not dreaming of Folks. 47 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:56.240 Nobody saw this coming. I mean, okay, over the last 48 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:58.000 week or so, when the word got out that it 49 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:00.280 was a possibility and that they were looking into in 50 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:05.240 the NHL was investigating what happened in Columbus with Mike Babcock, nobody. 51 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:10.520 Nobody guess this, nobody, And and look, it is a 52 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:14.120 desperate move by the by the Abonton owners. And you 53 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:17.560 know why it's a desperate move because they're desperate. They're 54 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:21.680 people criticizing it is a desperate They're desperate. Time is 55 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:25.120 taking on Connor McDavid and to some extent, Leon Dreisidel. 56 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:29.159 They have to do something like this. And Mike Babcock, 57 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:31.400 nineteenth head coach in Order's history. 58 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:34.400 I want to see how long his term is Donnie 59 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:37.360 on his contract two years or three? If it's two 60 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:41.520 lines up with Connor right, the window is a small 61 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:44.319 you mentioned it, McDavid. You better win. You better win, 62 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:47.240 because he's going to bolt town if you don't win. 63 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:50.280 Bringing DJ Smith was a good move for him. What 64 00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:52.560 he says at his press conference today is going to 65 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:54.919 be amazing. You know, he's going to get attacked by 66 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:57.840 the media. He hasn't coached in seven years. The Columbus 67 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:00.240 thing was four years. He doesn't want to play off 68 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:03.439 round since twenty thirteen, So you know he's gonna get 69 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:04.639 grilled pretty good at the presser. 70 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:10.439 But if I'm an Oilers fan, yeah, and I like 71 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:13.039 the fact that I like what you just say. He's 72 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:15.479 got something to prove, and this is a coach with 73 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:19.319 a pretty impressive resume, not recently certainly, with all sorts 74 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:26.639 of difficulties. But like, what bothered me the most about 75 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:30.519 the Columbus situation is that I thought, I mean, you're 76 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:34.240 asking players to share private information and photos on their 77 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:35.959 cell phones and you're going to share it with the 78 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:36.680 rest of the team. 79 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:40.480 Was creepy. It was weird. It was also dumb, like. 80 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:44.199 Everything that you've gone through in your career, all sorts 81 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:48.439 of success, but you know, so much negativity when you 82 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:51.720 look at the situation with Johan France and Mike Madano 83 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:55.199 and Mitch Mitch Marner, and you come up with something 84 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:57.879 like that, like Mike Babcock, you say what you want, 85 00:04:57.920 --> 00:05:01.079 tomut he comes across as a smart guy. The dumb move, 86 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:03.480 like what the hell are you thinking? In this day 87 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:03.839 and age? 88 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:07.040 Maybe that worked, was gonna say ninety ye, well they 89 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:09.439 didn't have cell phones but back then. But just to 90 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:11.800 mind but the dumb move. If this guy. 91 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:16.279 Sticks to hockey, if he just focuses on hockey, you know, 92 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:18.839 like you just said, there, Rick, forget the mind games, 93 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:22.439 forget trying to you know, manipulate or bully people. 94 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:23.399 Just stick to hockey. 95 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:27.199 Because obviously there's something there with Mike Babcock. Otherwise the 96 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:29.519 people at Hockey Canada I wouldn't have hired him to, 97 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:32.319 you know, help out team Canada at twenty ten to 98 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:34.959 twenty fourteen and win win gold medals. If you stick 99 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:38.040 to hockey, there's something there. But is he capable of 100 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:40.879 doing that? You'd have to think he's learned his lesson. 101 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:45.000 And look, yeah, you'd have to think he's learned his lesson. 102 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.879 And that's good for the Edmonton Oilers. And I'm somebody 103 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.800 who I'm not gonna sit here and say, as a 104 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:53.279 Vancouver right that I want the Edmonton Orders to win 105 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:55.759 a six Stanley Cup, but I want Connor McDavid to 106 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:59.959 win one. It's a weird catch twenty two situation. This guy, 107 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:03.480 he sticks to hockey, you know, because again there's something 108 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:06.600 there that's it's got to be considered a positive move 109 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:07.600 for the Edmonton Oilers. 110 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:10.519 You can't blame the players, or you can blame them 111 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:14.240 because you know, don the top players would have been informed. 112 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:18.360 Apparently they had a meeting with Babcock. All right, McDavid 113 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:20.639 drive title, all those big names had a meeting with 114 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:23.879 him and they okayed it. So they okay, he's going 115 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:27.160 to a Canadian market. Last time he got busted in Columbus, 116 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:29.519 you know, not a great you know, hockey market. 117 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:30.000 He's been to it. 118 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:32.079 He's been to a Canadian markets. To a Canadian market 119 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:33.920 didn't work out for him. I mean, he didn't do 120 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:36.800 great in Toronto. But let's see how he does there. 121 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:38.800 They got a short window to make this work, to 122 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:41.639 keep their star player happy. The other guy's got turn 123 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:44.439 them on his deal. It's all about Connor McDavid. Win 124 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:46.360 for him and you can sign him to another deal. 125 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:53.759 One thing you said there regarding McDavid in dry and 126 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:55.480 undoubtedly Zach Hyman. 127 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:57.399 Yes, the star players. 128 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:00.160 We'll see what happens with Darnell and Nurse apparently the 129 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:02.120 trading wat But when you when it comes to the 130 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:06.040 star players and everybody that's had Mike Babcock as a coach, 131 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:10.040 including Mike Commodore, who's been open about his hate for 132 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:14.160 Mike Babcock more than anybody else. The problem for Mike 133 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:16.959 Babcock isn't the star players and how he treats them. 134 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:20.800 He treats them, well, okay, it's it's it's the bottom 135 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:24.639 six forwards, it's the six seven defense, it's the staff, 136 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:26.519 it's the ushers. 137 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:27.399 People like that. 138 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:29.480 How he treats that, that's not good. I know that, 139 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:33.439 doesn't you know? People, what do you well? It It 140 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:36.560 seeps into every corner of the organization when you treat 141 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:37.639 people poorly. 142 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:38.240 Culture. 143 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:40.800 So that's hopefully he's you know, if you're an Oilers fan, 144 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:41.839 hopefully he's learned from that. 145 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:41.959 Now. 146 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:44.639 I know, people say, well done well Mike Madonel. We 147 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:47.040 talked about he's a star player. When he was in Detroit, 148 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:49.959 he was a spare part and end of his career, 149 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:53.639 and you look at Mike McDonald's hockey dB page, it's sad. 150 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:57.439 It's not sad. He hit a wonderful career, but fourteen 151 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:00.639 hundred and ninety nine games and he scratches him for 152 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:04.000 game fifteen hundred and I think it was the last 153 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:08.160 four games of his season in Detroit and never got 154 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:08.680 to fifteen. 155 00:08:08.720 --> 00:08:10.319 I mean, just the mind game stopped that. 156 00:08:10.600 --> 00:08:13.759 Mine stick to hockey mind games, always mind games with 157 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:14.199 this guy. 158 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:18.839 But hey, but good coach, undoubtedly interesting nineteen head coaches 159 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:22.959 now in Edmonton Oyer's history. The winningest coach in ebonton 160 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:27.720 Oida's history. You know it's not it's Jay Woodcroft. If 161 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:30.800 you go by winning percentage six forty three, it's not 162 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:34.480 even close. But now blocks actually second, it's six twenty four. 163 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:37.399 Glenn Savor's third at six sixteen. You have to remember that. 164 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:40.879 Say, there was there when the Oilers were on the 165 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.799 rise with Gretzky, So there's there are some teams there 166 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:46.240 that didn't win as much as you you might have thought. 167 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:49.720 But Jay Woodcroft far and away winning his coach in 168 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:52.559 Oil's history. He had a pretty good lineup to work with. 169 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:55.360 I'm surprised he didn't get another chance. He will somewhere 170 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:58.399 down the line, right crazy staff, because he was rumored 171 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:01.919 for Toronto, even her talk maybe returning to Ebonton. But 172 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:05.519 and then, by the way, amongst those nineteen head coaches, 173 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:08.759 two former Canuck head coaches and Pat Quinn, I forgot 174 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:11.440 about him is one season the late great Pat Quinn 175 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:12.240 man I miss. 176 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:14.399 Him and Tom Raymond Ray was there for sure, Perry 177 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:17.279 was there for a while time. Okay, conuct News, what 178 00:09:17.320 --> 00:09:17.720 do you got? 179 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:21.000 So this is a big week ahead, Don, I'm hearing 180 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:24.440 Vancouver's open to anything, especially when it comes to veteran players. 181 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:27.559 One team told me last night they have heard Elliotts, Petterson, 182 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:30.360 brock Besser, and Jake Debrusk's name out on the market, 183 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:32.919 the trade market, but they have not heard Philip Paronic's name. 184 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.799 Now that could change any minute, But don we've been 185 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:38.200 through this. When you have a young blue line of Vancouver, 186 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:40.679 four guys they dressed under the age of twenty three, 187 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:43.960 you can't have six rookie defensemen. You can't have You 188 00:09:44.039 --> 00:09:48.080 gotta have some veterans around to insulate those young kids. 189 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:51.519 Heronic's also a candidate to be named captain. We'll see 190 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:53.360 where it goes. I know that people have a condition. 191 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:56.720 You're not going to name a captain. They will Malholtra 192 00:09:56.840 --> 00:09:59.919 told us, you know, and on Petterson. If the Canucks 193 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:02.559 they have a deal, they will go to his agents 194 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:05.679 and ask if your wave is no move. But his 195 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:08.360 name is out there, don It is out there, big time, 196 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:08.960 out there for. 197 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:09.519 A long time. 198 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:12.039 It's been out there for a long time. But his 199 00:10:12.159 --> 00:10:14.919 agents haven't been contacted. They have there's nothing going on 200 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:17.519 with the agents right now. But his name's out there, 201 00:10:17.600 --> 00:10:18.679 big time, big time. 202 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:22.679 Okay, I know we've had this conversation before, but Philip 203 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:27.320 Heronic is a captain? Like why bother? Well, why do 204 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:28.480 you have to have a captain. 205 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:29.000 Of this stage? 206 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:31.679 Why not? You're gonna have a young team. You got 207 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:34.039 a bunch of young kids coming, you got a draft coming, 208 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:36.759 You've got three drafts coming. There's a wave of kids coming. 209 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:38.600 You don't think they need to look up to someone 210 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:40.000 and have some leadership look up to me? 211 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:41.519 Why does he have to have a letter? 212 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:45.399 Well, like, see, you don't want to see he could 213 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:46.519 be an a. He could be an A. 214 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:47.960 Well, sure that that's fine. 215 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:50.399 I think that we've had people on this show and 216 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:53.200 You've seen people over the last few weeks talk about, 217 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:55.080 you know, the role of the captain or how do 218 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:58.000 you find a captain and sometimes it just it just 219 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:00.360 happens over time, it's gonna be one of these young players, 220 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:03.080 like I could say, honestly, I could see Vlander one 221 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:05.120 day being the captain of this Tom Lander just the 222 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:08.799 way it comes across absolutely, you know, real promising young 223 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:09.720 young hockey player. 224 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:14.559 Philip Proonic answering to the media, that shouldn't be your 225 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:19.399 you know, it should be the number one consideration no 226 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:22.080 matter who you acquire in. 227 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:24.519 Any situation, should be how do they deal with the media? 228 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:27.039 Will they go on Donnie and Dolly? That's that's that 229 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:29.519 should be your number number one consideration. 230 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:33.240 Trevor Lindon was a great captain. He was paying at 231 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:36.080 a young age and and Trevor was a great captain. 232 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:38.120 He was great with the media. But not everyone, Not 233 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:39.440 every captain is great with the media. 234 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:42.679 Bottom line, Well, who wasn't great with the media? 235 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:45.480 Okay, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, not every single 236 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:46.480 captain on every team. 237 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:47.200 Part of the. 238 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:51.720 Job, A part of the job, you're in the media, Okay, 239 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:53.919 part of what How about I need him to be 240 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:55.960 a good captain, guide the kids, be a good pro 241 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:58.279 on and off the ice, Provide leadership on the ice, 242 00:11:58.320 --> 00:11:59.679 Provide leadership off the ice. 243 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:02.200 Dot what do you have to answer for your club's 244 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:05.120 performance good, good or bad to the media? Which is 245 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:09.120 the liaison, the connection between the club, your business and 246 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:09.919 your customers. 247 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:11.440 It's an important role. 248 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:14.639 They'll they'll find themselves. A camptain Philip Ronok would be 249 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:16.799 a mistake at this point. Maybe somewhere down the line, 250 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:20.600 but not right now. And Adam Foot officially to Utah's 251 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:21.279 and assistant. 252 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:24.440 Yeah, he's there and he did really well on his contract, Donnie. 253 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:28.159 And Adam Foot is going to be the defenseman coach 254 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:31.519 in Utah and he is off there. I wanted to 255 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:33.879 mention this don Teddy Blueger won't be back. He's going 256 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:37.200 to hit the free agent market. So the connects are 257 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:38.320 going to be looking for a centerment. 258 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:41.399 You know what, remember what if they trade Pederson? 259 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:44.600 Well, okay, so do you give atu Ratu more of 260 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:47.639 a chance now do you? They signed that big Russian 261 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:51.720 Donnie Ela Shaffanov. They got to give him a long 262 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:53.879 look at training camp. He's got a European clause in 263 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:54.519 his contract. 264 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:57.360 Don your European cli is in that he won't go 265 00:12:57.399 --> 00:12:58.320 down to abas. 266 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:00.679 For he will, So you got to make room first 267 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:03.679 half and half and off. But anyways, listen, don listen. 268 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:05.879 So you got you gotta make room for that kid. 269 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:08.720 Braiden Coots is not far away. So does it make 270 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:13.720 sense to give Blueger Donnie term when Braiden Coots Coots 271 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:15.799 might be an absper next year and then ready for 272 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:17.919 the NHL. You got to make room for the kids. 273 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:19.840 You gotta make they might get a centerment in this 274 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:22.039 year's draft. You got to make room for the kids. 275 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:24.519 Signing a thirty one year old Blueger to an extension 276 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:27.279 with term, maybe you're gonna take away ice time from 277 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:27.960 those young kids. 278 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:30.639 Okay, so why you want to keep ronic? To help 279 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:32.759 out the kids? But you get rid of Blueger? 280 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:36.639 Yeah and a great leader. And remember he ripped the 281 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:39.799 team for not enough caring. Yeah, but he's thirty one. 282 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:41.159 Heronic's not thirty one. 283 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:41.440 Done. 284 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:44.679 The age plays a factor. Look at this guy. You 285 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:49.039 know you're contradicting, You're not contradicting myself. Blooger's thirty one. 286 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:50.320 It makes a big difference. 287 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:53.159 Well, no, we you still want vectors there. Look, I'll 288 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:56.240 say what I said before we started the show, before 289 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:59.600 he went to air, is that years ago Trevor Linden 290 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:01.399 made this point. I think it was on this show 291 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:05.679 that you don't you need the odd veteran in there 292 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:09.919 who is okay with being here in a rebuild, okay, 293 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:13.480 because like you can go with all kids and lose 294 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:14.440 eight too every night. 295 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:17.080 You don't want that. But you don't want that, so 296 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:20.639 now you're green. You want to be competitive and lose. 297 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:21.919 You don't want to be losing. 298 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:25.840 But three two four two, and then the odd winds 299 00:14:25.840 --> 00:14:28.759 sprinkled in there, and then you win the lottery and 300 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:31.080 you get land in DuPont. It's all, it's all there, 301 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:34.000 but you don't want to you know, every night you 302 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:36.519 don't even its completely demoralized. You don't want to get 303 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:39.519 god veteran. But what what if they lose? What if 304 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:42.600 they lose Blueger and they trade Peterson? They better get 305 00:14:42.639 --> 00:14:44.080 some centers back. 306 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:46.320 Right they while they were in on Michael, you. 307 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:49.000 Go on and on. No, they've got no centers. You 308 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:51.399 wanted them to get rid of Peterson. They were looking 309 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:51.759 at him. 310 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:52.759 So anyways, he's gone. 311 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:53.679 He's he's gone. 312 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:55.679 He's not he's gone. He's got They better get sized, 313 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:57.759 toughness and more Canadians this summer. 314 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:03.639 Right heronic twenty nine in November? 315 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:07.000 By the way, Yeah he's twenty nine. Yeahs thirty one. Wait, 316 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:09.559 he's not thirty thirty one, thirty two, thirty three, thirty four. 317 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:10.600 So there you go. 318 00:15:10.679 --> 00:15:12.360 He'll be thirty four at the end of the contract. Brick, 319 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:14.679 Do you think I get that? 320 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:17.399 So? Do you want the Canucks to dress six defensemen 321 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:18.879 under the age of twenty four every night? 322 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:19.159 Right? 323 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:20.080 You just said it. 324 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:22.480 You're okay with losing blue You're talking about the blue line. 325 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:24.679 I'm talking about the blue line. He just doesn't like 326 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:27.559 six defenseman under the age of twenty four every night. No, 327 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:29.120 see how they do that, Ryan. 328 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:31.240 But here's your here's your thing. You're missing. If you 329 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:33.840 trade a veteran doesn't mean you can't acquire or sign 330 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:34.360 a veteran. 331 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:38.320 Like right now, how many vet how many UFAs want 332 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:41.360 to come to Vancouver? None? Thank you and the conversation, but. 333 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:43.759 You always say it, there's only thirty two jobs as well. 334 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:45.480 Okay, does blue girl want to be here? 335 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:46.200 Uh? 336 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:50.440 That's between him and his agent and the canucksy. I 337 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.879 was told he's hitting the market. He's hitting the market, 338 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:55.960 so they don't get him fined. By the way, Centerman 339 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:58.879 teams are just desperate for centerment, so he'll he'll find 340 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:02.840 a home on July Firth Cannocks aren't. Well yeah, apparently not. 341 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:06.080 He got you with that heronic No, no, no, it's 342 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:08.639 not that a blue line is different than the forward group. 343 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:12.240 There's twelve forwards. When you have the Canucks stress four 344 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:15.360 defenseman under the age of twenty three last year, that's 345 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:19.120 pretty young. Sure, not many NHL blue lines have that 346 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:21.600 many young kids. Give me the case for keeping him. 347 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:24.960 I just told you you need to insulate those young 348 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:28.279 kids with veteran defenseman to bring in another veteran trade 349 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:31.240 your most impressive trade ship. What veteran wants to come 350 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:33.080 to Vancouver right now if you overpay him. 351 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:35.039 Okay, we're going in circle. Yeah, we're going to Cirtain. 352 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:37.919 No veteran wants to Let's just leave it this way. 353 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:38.440 I was right. 354 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:41.799 Here's what's coming up on the show a DTMZ is 355 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:44.679 it is me. In the eleven o'clock hour, Sean Millington 356 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:49.480 is going into the Canadian Football Hall of Fame BC 357 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.000 Lions stalwart man. He was good at SF you, he 358 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:53.679 was good at Carson Graham High School. He's going to 359 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:57.080 join his at around eleven fifteen or so. Elliott Friedman 360 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.679 scheduled to join is just after eleven o'clock to talk 361 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:02.799 some hockey. We have talked about the Hockey Hall of Fame. 362 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:05.319 He's at the Board of Governors meetings and they're in 363 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:08.240 New York City. We hope to have Elliott just after 364 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:09.839 eleven o'clock. 365 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:11.799 A big Rye. It's a moving target. 366 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:14.640 Big Rye, the Twitter guy coming up later this hour 367 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:17.079 and up next. So much going on to the National 368 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:19.640 Hockey League, including the draft on Friday or the first 369 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:23.440 round of the draft on Friday. Craig Button, TSN scouting director, 370 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:25.599 he's next. 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That's 382 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:08.079 sales at a b l E Auctions dot ca A. 383 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:17.160 It is what is it Tuesday? And all of our 384 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:21.079 guests are brought to you by our title sponsor Able Auctions, 385 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:25.480 Able Auctions dot c A. As the ABATA owner is 386 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:29.079 officially named Mike Babcock as their head coach, we bring 387 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:33.079 in TSN Scouting Director Craig Button. Craig, thanks for doing this, sir. 388 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:33.599 How are you? 389 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:37.799 I am fantastic. How are you gentlemen doing and joining 390 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:38.680 the World Cup? 391 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:41.799 Oh, oh my gosh, how can you not? Vancouver has 392 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:45.599 been buzzing, Craig, Absolutely, but how about you? 393 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:48.720 Yeah, I love the world couple love soccer. 394 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:52.400 It's been fantastic and you can feel, you can without 395 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:55.759 being present, you can feel the vibes and you know, 396 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:58.880 hearing about the excitement from the people that are present 397 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:02.559 in Toronto and in Vancouver really is fantastic. 398 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:06.519 Yeah, it's been so special, Craig. Let's start out with 399 00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:08.839 the news they has talked about just your reaction to 400 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.240 the oilers, making it official and hiring Mike Babcock. 401 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:13.680