WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:16.280 West Tiger's Podcast episode number four hundred and twenty, joined 2 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:19.839 by Gary Watson, coach of dal Haj, and Rob Bashara 3 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:22.960 on a Sunday night after the West Tigers thrilling twenty 4 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:26.160 one twenty victory over the Gold Coast Titans at the 5 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:28.679 eighth Wonder of the World like Hardov, Gary, your one 6 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:30.120 word two points. 7 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:33.159 It wasn't a great performance from outside. I thought they 8 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:35.719 fought fairly well. But the most important thing is we 9 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:37.159 walked away from the two points today. 10 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:41.000 Coach First, fort he said two words. By the way I. 11 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:47.280 Always says, I usually say forty seven, happiness purely about 12 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:50.320 like Hardoval being at like Haardov means happiness. 13 00:00:51.039 --> 00:00:54.960 Rob mine before I get yours. Mine's just sheer relief. Honestly, 14 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:56.840 I think I've said that about five or six times 15 00:00:56.840 --> 00:00:59.640 this year after we've won. But just relief. 16 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:00.159 Long. 17 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:01.640 Glad you said that because that was one of my 18 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:04.159 one words. So I'll go to my other one word, 19 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:07.159 which is two words or three words. Club needed it 20 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:09.319 absolutely boys. 21 00:01:09.319 --> 00:01:11.799 This is not an official game review because Joel will 22 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:14.920 be hosting podcast four hundred and nineteen, which will be 23 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:17.159 our match review, which will be out on Monday night, 24 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:18.959 but we are going to do a little bit of 25 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:22.280 a masterclass again with the coach breaking down some of 26 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:25.280 our attack, defends our structures and systems, and we also 27 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:28.640 will do some buy seller hold. But let's touch on 28 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:33.359 that Titans game today. Boys like hard oval Gary, sixteen 29 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:36.560 thousand fans there, we've won seven from nine. I know 30 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:39.200 you keep telling me that you know it doesn't hold 31 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:41.799 enough fans, but surely, surely we can play a couple 32 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:42.719 more games a year there. 33 00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:46.319 Look, I think once the stadium gets redeveloped that they 34 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:48.519 have planned the plan is to be playing at least 35 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:52.439 three four games there a year At sixteen thousand. I 36 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:54.000 think our club's too big to be playing in a 37 00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:56.879 ground that holds sixteen thousand. It will get up to 38 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:01.680 about twenty one twenty two around twenty sorry, and that's still. 39 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:02.840 Not quite big enough for our club. 40 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:06.560 So I love like hardover, love getting out there today, 41 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:11.080 love getting out there anytime we can. But we need 42 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:13.039 a ground that that fits a bit more than twenty 43 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:15.439 thousand to be permanent home ground. 44 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:18.199 Coach, you were a bit less political last time. I 45 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:20.159 think you said you were going to bulldoze Cameltown and 46 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:22.120 all the other grounds and just move us permanently to like, 47 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:23.080 how do you stand by that? 48 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:25.879 I just wherever we're going to win. But I think 49 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:27.360 at the position of the club's in at the moment, 50 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:31.759 I think winning is the priority. Should we only be 51 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:34.240 relying on winning it like Crdoval? No, But at the 52 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:37.000 moment that's what the results are saying, So it's got 53 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:38.479 to have an impact. I think the biggest thing about 54 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:41.960 Lighthardov and from what I understand about the corporate aspect 55 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:44.120 of how the game works and money, it's about the 56 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:46.960 corporate It's not so much about the numbers. Chuck Park 57 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:50.400 shows that. I think from a the problem for us 58 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:53.080 is we're getting sixteen thousand like Cardoval, and we've won 59 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:55.439 three wooden spoons. What happens if we turn into the 60 00:02:55.479 --> 00:02:59.159 Penrith Panthers. That's when, like hardover becomes too big, No, sorry, 61 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:01.800 too small. That's the problem in the long term, But 62 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:03.520 I'm going to take it like if it means I 63 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:05.319 can't go to the game every week because we're winning 64 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:08.319 every week so there's no seats, I'm probably happy with that. 65 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:11.840 Rob. I really don't want to bag Campbelltown because I 66 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:14.680 want success there as much as you do. But if 67 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:17.080 they played there today and they're six down with ten 68 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:18.159 minutes to go, do they win? 69 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:22.479 I'd like to say why not. I won't say yes 70 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:24.960 or no, but why not? And to be fair, I'm 71 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:27.240 from the Balmain Side, but my only membership this year 72 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:29.560 is at Campbelltown. I love the experience out at Campbelltown. 73 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:31.080 I love seeing all the people. I love the drive 74 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:33.280 out there. I love going to the club next door 75 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:35.080 and having to chat to everyone. But yeah, we could 76 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:35.360 have won. 77 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:38.479 No, we don't get that win today at any other 78 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:39.960 ground than like Art Oval. 79 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:41.159 Why do you say that. 80 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:45.039 I think the history shows that you have a look 81 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:48.879 at what is it three wins from the last fifteen 82 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:50.240 or so out at Campbelltown. 83 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:54.120 The ground makes a difference. That crowd out there makes 84 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:54.639 a difference. 85 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:59.360 And it's not just the crowd, the configuration of the ground, 86 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:01.400 the fact that every everyone is so close and so 87 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:05.840 on top of the football that lifts the team. 88 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:07.680 And you could see it out there today. You hear 89 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:08.800 the players speak about it. 90 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:11.879 That ground makes a difference, and I think it made 91 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:13.439 a difference today and I don't think we win that 92 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:14.479 game today anywhere else. 93 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:16.319 I think it's the confidence of the ground as well 94 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:18.199 the fact that we have won quite a bit. It's 95 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:20.800 like anything in all aspects of your football, Like if 96 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:23.160 you're a good defensive team, you're always going to have 97 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:26.000 the confidence in your defense. Winning and like had has 98 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:28.079 almost become a habit for us at the moment. So 99 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:31.399 we don't have that habit anywhere else. We don't beat 100 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:33.319 any other team there today. Boys. I was being a 101 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:35.240 little bit light on how podcasts are there, but. 102 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:37.319 I don't if we play Cannery there today or any 103 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:39.600 other canber I don't think we win that game. I 104 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:42.519 accept the point Gary's making, but it's the same length 105 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:45.000 of grass. It's I get it is more intimate. I 106 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:47.360 get that, and there's that romance about it. But it's 107 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:50.519 not like Campbelltown is Combank Stadium. It's our home ground. 108 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:51.920 We've got to get used to it. 109 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:54.399 I'm only going off the results, like Gary said, at 110 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:57.240 the facts, Like that's the facts, and we've got to 111 00:04:57.279 --> 00:04:59.480 change the facts of Campbelltown. Though. We've got to change that. 112 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:02.040 Hey, there was a period for a few years we 113 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:04.199 weren't winning many games alike art either. I mean, it's 114 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:06.480 only been any. 115 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:08.680 Games at that stage. That's the year. That's the early 116 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:11.000 years where we weren't winning any games, and if I 117 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:14.480 think it was the first wooden surn but look, I 118 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:18.720 think right now the numbers say paint a pitcher and yeah, 119 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:20.319 we get one more game and like car this year 120 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:22.439 and you know what you think ahead right, and it 121 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:24.199 doesn't matter who we're playing it, but it's the Cowboys. 122 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:26.000 You sort of say to yourself, well, there's a win 123 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:26.839 coming up. 124 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:30.240 That's the confidence twenty year anniversary for the five Grand Final, 125 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:32.040 So that'd be a massive day, Like I want, think 126 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:34.720 it's Sunday with about three rounds to go. But Gary, 127 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:39.079 does the result override the performance? Such a relief to win? 128 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:41.600 But what did you make it a performance? 129 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:44.959 Look, the result definitely overrides the performance. The most important 130 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:47.759 thing we needed today was that win. It gets us 131 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:50.319 out of that wooden spoon race. I think that guarantees 132 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:52.720 us not finishing last this year, and I think that's 133 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:56.480 super important for our club. The performance wasn't great, a 134 00:05:56.680 --> 00:06:01.480 very patchy. I thought we struggled in attack. I don't 135 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:03.439 think our shape is what we really need it to be. 136 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:06.560 But right now I don't care about that because we 137 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:08.439 got the two points and it was a game I 138 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:09.839 thought we're going to lose. I thought it was a 139 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:13.199 game that we definitely should have won. We're much a 140 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:18.720 better team on the field than the Titans played the day. 141 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:20.480 But we needed that two points and we got those 142 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:21.120 two points. 143 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:23.680 Coach, I'm not a weather man, but I live ten 144 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:25.600 minutes from like ut Oval, and there was no wind 145 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:27.759 at home. I'll get to like out Oval and it's 146 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:30.720 always blowing a gale towards the pool. I was worried 147 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:32.519 when we were fourteen to twelve down at halftime because 148 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:34.519 we had the wind. What did you make it? A 149 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:35.879 second half performance a lot better. 150 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:39.199 We completed nineteen from twenty one, which is really important. 151 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:40.959 And that's the simple part of the game, right, If 152 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:43.439 you can put yourself in that position, usually what that'll 153 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:45.639 mean is you've at least got equal share of possession, 154 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:47.439 and that's what we had in the second half. We 155 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:51.800 dominated possession in the second half. So I'm not as 156 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:53.800 big as believer as others in regards to the wind. 157 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:57.279 Like I think the wind is can be of use 158 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:00.000 of you, Sorry, it can be too use of you. 159 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:02.079 I can't even say my words, right, can to be 160 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:05.439 of use? I think it's only one part of the game, 161 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:08.639 and that is kicking. It's all about your long kicking 162 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:10.120 that it's going to aid you and if you've got 163 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:11.800 someone that can nail a forty twenty. 164 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:13.519 Ether side used the wind to their advantage. 165 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:15.360 No, I don't think it made too much of an 166 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:18.279 impact on today's game as Well's just wind worth Do 167 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:22.120 you think nothing points? It's not AFL. In AFL, it's 168 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:26.360 worth money and watch AFL okay in AFL kicking like 169 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:28.600 because that's where the terms come from. It's come from 170 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:30.920 AFL because of the fact there's so much kicking in 171 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:34.959 the AFL. It's a longer ground. It's worth points. I 172 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:36.600 don't think it's worth anything in the rugby league. 173 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:40.040 I think in a game where we have a team 174 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:42.360 that still struggles to get down the field, I think 175 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:44.040 the fact that we are kicking out of our own 176 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:46.279 end quite a bit. It does have an effect on 177 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:50.040 your field position and I think that's important for a 178 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:54.959 team like us at this point in our development. But 179 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:57.120 I thought the boys did really well into that win today, 180 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:00.560 so it's really hard to be critical of that. I 181 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:04.199 did like your point about our completion rates at nineteen 182 00:08:04.199 --> 00:08:05.759 from twenty one, and that's w if I was dropping 183 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:07.480 the kickoff, which. 184 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:09.920 Is an incomplete set, so technically it's probably you want 185 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:11.959 to talk about it. It's twenty from twenty one, which 186 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:15.759 is Queensland origin. Like Benji said it was our worst 187 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:17.560 performance of the year. I don't know if he meant 188 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:18.920 our worst win of the year. 189 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:19.759 Is that fair? 190 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:22.439 I think he meant our worst performance of the year. 191 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:26.000 But but how could it be sixty four exactly? Look 192 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:29.040 as Gary said, It's like I would have said a 193 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:30.759 different answer to the fact that Gary said the win 194 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:33.000 overrides of performance is probably right because it was a 195 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:36.360 much needed win. But it was an awful performance from 196 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:40.679 a what's the what's the term? It wasn't smooth. It 197 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:43.600 was all clunky. There was no cohesion at times, and 198 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:46.320 I think sometimes when you simplify, you're going to complete 199 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:48.879 your sets, aren't you, Like if it's basically twenty out 200 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:50.240 of twenty one sets from that. 201 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:54.639 Drop ball, well, I think winning a game like that 202 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:57.080 is all about how you react to it as players. 203 00:08:57.360 --> 00:08:59.159 If you react to it like oh, we won in 204 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:01.440 your chest is out, you're not acknowledging the fact that 205 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:04.759 the performance has improvement in it. That's a concern if 206 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:07.000 you walk away from it. And that's where Benji's message 207 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:08.840 is really important in a press conference, right because the 208 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:12.000 players will know it's it's our worst performance of the week, 209 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:16.000 but we won, which confid that can build some confidence 210 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:17.799 in saying, hey, we're going to take on the Panthers, 211 00:09:17.799 --> 00:09:20.039 and I know we'll be up for the Panthers next week. 212 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:22.519 So if we can take that win into next week 213 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:26.759 and really attack this week against them, I where with Gary, 214 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:30.159 I think it supersedes everything. Winning solves all. 215 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.759 Talking about that reaction to the win. Historically this year 216 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:36.879 we've actually reacted really poorly after wins. I think we're 217 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:39.840 like Eddie went through it on our pod the other night, 218 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:43.200 and our back up performances after a win this season 219 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:45.320 have been really poor. So I think it's really critical 220 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:48.720 that we get that message right. We get that. It's 221 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:53.200 almost like, because we're struggled winning games over the last 222 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:54.720 couple of years, we get that win and it's such 223 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:56.879 a big relief, it's such a release. 224 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:58.759 Of pressure on the club. We then turn around and 225 00:09:58.759 --> 00:09:59.600 relax for the next game. 226 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:01.600 I think it's really important we've got to main start 227 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:07.840 maintaining those levels of plays and maintaining our style of play. 228 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:09.559 From one week to the next so we don't actually 229 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:12.200 fall into that hole and next week turn into a 230 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:14.559 game where we show up and Pane goes straight for us. 231 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:18.279 Taylor and May coach style my thunder. On the previous podcast, 232 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:21.320 you Caught him World Class. I'll read through his stats today. 233 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:24.240 One try, two try assists, three line break assists, one 234 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:26.879 line break, seven tackle breaks, one hundred and twenty one meters, 235 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:30.879 forty three post contact meters and one tackle miss. He 236 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:32.919 also dropped a couple of blokes on his backside. I 237 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:35.240 can't remember who it was, but that was a scary 238 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:36.440 performance by Tailor May. 239 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:40.759 As impressive as those numbers are, what I encourage people 240 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:43.759 to do is don't read the numbers, go watch it yourself. 241 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:47.840 Because his physicality and his aggression both with the ball 242 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:49.600 and without the ball, and the fear he started to 243 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:52.240 put into that Titans team. We don't win today without Taylor. 244 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:55.240 May, I'd be scared, like standing opposite him with that 245 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:56.000 neck tato. 246 00:10:57.720 --> 00:10:59.759 And I mentioned that I mentioned it on now podcast. 247 00:10:59.799 --> 00:11:02.159 You know, after the the group try, he wanted to 248 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:03.600 get into it with about four or five of the 249 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:07.039 Titans boys. I loved it. We've never had that guy 250 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:11.639 that actually just went f you because it was I 251 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:14.120 think it was Brian Kelly was sledging into one of 252 00:11:14.279 --> 00:11:16.120 the other players and he just sort of stood up 253 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:19.200 for him. So I thought, yeah, look, that was exciting, 254 00:11:19.240 --> 00:11:19.639 wasn't it. 255 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:21.440 I don't think we win today without him Rob, Like 256 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:23.919 every time we went left, even if he didn't make 257 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:26.320 a break, it looked like they were backing off and 258 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:28.159 we're making easy meters out of ourn end. 259 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:28.720 Yeah. 260 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:31.679 He was incredible, I said to Adel on our podcast. 261 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:33.840 I did not expect this sort of performance from him 262 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:36.480 for another four or five weeks to come in running 263 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:39.200 the way he did. And I think I think Terrell 264 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:40.879 May lifted, not that he's needed to lift, but I 265 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:43.960 thought Terrell was probably our second best player today. So yeah, 266 00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:46.080 anymore May brothers, we can get boys. 267 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:47.200 There's one somewhere. 268 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:49.960 But that left edge looked really good all game. The 269 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:54.639 footwork and the power from from Taylor at the line. 270 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:58.559 It had. It had the sorry the Titans on the 271 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:02.320 back football game. I also, I think early on Jerome 272 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:04.240 actually tried to run the ball a little bit earlier 273 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:07.279 in the game, which sort of indicated something. Do we 274 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:08.759 think anything of him not playing in the head of 275 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:09.200 you today. 276 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:12.519 My mate pointed that out. It took me twenty five minutes. 277 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:15.039 And I thought, I haven't thought of that. Coach. 278 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:18.279 Remember Jim Sheen's I don't think he let Liam Fulton 279 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:20.519 play in headgear. That was years ago because Leam Fulton 280 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:22.440 started his career in headgear and said, you're not playing 281 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:22.639 for me. 282 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:25.480 Look, let's just say this right, playing and head gear 283 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:27.320 not Jonathan to play for the head Gears. I don't 284 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:29.840 care about wearing it, but I think from his perspective, 285 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:32.120 I wonder if there was something about that today is 286 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.639 like ending a message because he had what did I say, 287 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:37.559 fourteen carries for one hundred and forty something meters, So 288 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:39.879 his intent today was I'm going to run the ball, 289 00:12:40.279 --> 00:12:41.559 and he did it a lot earlier in the game 290 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:43.879 where he just took some carries, you know, and he 291 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:45.879 there wasn't even any shape wing. He just saught I'm 292 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:47.000 going to take the line on myself. 293 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:49.720 So I agree with you the left and caught the 294 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:52.080 ball facing the try line like his shoulders were square, 295 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:55.360 running direct, you know, not facing the sideline, turning it inside, 296 00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:56.480 dropping it off to a forward. 297 00:12:56.759 --> 00:12:58.519 He really had a clear intent to run the ball. 298 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:00.320 I also think he won us the game. I said 299 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:02.600 this on the podcast, but the trice over on AJ 300 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:05.240 Brimson that may not have noticed. When we dropped the 301 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:08.840 ball attacking their line, Sammy gets the ball to Brimston 302 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:11.360 and if Jerome doesn't for some reason, I don't know 303 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:12.840 why he does it. It comes from the other side of 304 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:15.799 the field. We lose the game because Brimston's gone, so 305 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:17.960 I think he want us the game in that moment 306 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:18.360 as well. 307 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:21.519 He showed up ready to play today. The head game 308 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:23.879 may have been a sign of that. But we're spoken 309 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:26.399 about how he drives standards at our club. He was 310 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:28.039 driving standards out on the field today. I don't know 311 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:29.720 if you guys were watching him at all while he 312 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:32.720 was out out on the field, but he ripped into 313 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:35.200 Fristian Hope at one point for really poor service, and 314 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:38.039 I thought, I thought Hope started the game really poorly 315 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:41.799 and it was really slowing us down from it got 316 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:45.320 into it. Yeah, and law I really gave him a 317 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:47.919 serve today and it's something I've been expecting to see 318 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:50.000 from him and I hadn't seen it till till today. 319 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:52.080 But yeah, it was interesting to see. 320 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:54.480 What did you make of the Harves games. Rob. Obviously 321 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:56.120 we mentioned Jerome. I thought it was one of his 322 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:58.840 better games, maybe helped by the fact, yeah Taylor may 323 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:02.279 outside him and potentially ad at thirteen, but Lar too 324 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:03.519 as well well. 325 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:05.240 Firstly, and Rome, I thought it was as straight as 326 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:08.720 he'd run my criticism, and it was very minor criticism. 327 00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:10.799 Was I wanted him a little bit more involved, although 328 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:12.720 those stats seemed to prove me wrong. I just thought 329 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:14.240 he could have been a bit more involved us on 330 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:16.480 the eye. But obviously he had a great game. I 331 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:19.720 felt Lart two looked a bit lost, though Adele's comforted 332 00:14:19.759 --> 00:14:22.200 me a bit having spoken to him earlier tonight, but 333 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:24.720 I just feel like they're still working that out. And 334 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:27.399 obviously Adam there, that takes a bit of working out. 335 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:29.320 But Adam Adam did well too. I didn't think he'd 336 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:32.559 cope with making thirty tackles and what have you. So look, 337 00:14:32.679 --> 00:14:33.840 I thought he had a really good game. 338 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:36.000 We'll get to my rant in a minute, Gary, but 339 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:38.159 I'm going to focus on the positive tonight because we won, 340 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:39.000 so you. 341 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:40.240 Don't focus on positives now. 342 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:42.080 I don't like to I'm the last half ebty sort 343 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:45.120 of guy, but any other individual performances that you thought 344 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:45.840 stood out today. 345 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:49.720 Look, the usual guys were great again today. I thought 346 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:52.279 Thurell may through the middle. I thought he was really strong. 347 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:55.200 Adam do I do want to point out I thought 348 00:14:55.240 --> 00:14:57.679 he had a great game today. I've always been quite 349 00:14:57.679 --> 00:14:58.600 critical of Adam in the. 350 00:14:58.759 --> 00:14:59.960 Show is being recorded, isn't it? 351 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:00.200 Yeah? 352 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:03.759 It is okay, beautiful on tape. But I do did 353 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:09.840 we resign him gay? I'm getting closer. What impressed me 354 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:12.679 today was his effort. It's in defense. My biggest criticism 355 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:15.279 always has been on effort plays in defense. 356 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:18.279 At times, the effort in past season. 357 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:20.759 Hasn't been there. That's picked up this year. I think 358 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:22.559 that number thirteen could really be the. 359 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:23.120 Spot for him. 360 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:27.000 I thought I thought last two's probably struggling a little 361 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:29.080 bit today and was a little bit less involved today, 362 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:32.480 just figuring out where Adam fits into how that spine works. 363 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:34.799 But I don't have too much of a problem with that. 364 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:37.919 It's a new combination once again, when we've had how 365 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:42.080 many halves combinations this year, and it's the real first 366 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:44.320 ball player we've had in that thirteen role this season. 367 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:46.279 So that's going to take a little bit of time 368 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:48.120 to work out. But I thought he was very good today, 369 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:52.240 and I am getting much closer to resigning him than I. 370 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:55.679 Was a month ago. I think you're offering Adam a contract. 371 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:58.759 I don't think there's a debate about whether you want 372 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:00.720 him at the club or not. I think thinks it's 373 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:03.000 about what sort of money we're going to pay for that. Correct. 374 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:05.480 Welly that press conference last week, he referred to the 375 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:07.799 big Boss rich I think rich A lowballed him. Was 376 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:09.080 that he inferring that rightfully? 377 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:11.120 So? I mean, at the end of the day, I 378 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:13.039 think we've got to sorry, hang on, not rightfully so 379 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:15.360 in the sense that we should lowball somebody. We've got 380 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:17.799 to figure out what his value is to us. And 381 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:19.559 until he proves where he's actually going to be for 382 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:21.759 us long term, well then you can't actually figure out 383 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:24.039 exactly what the number is. At the end of the day, 384 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:26.279 if the West Tigers offer you three hundred thousand dollars 385 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:29.080 and nobody else offers you more, you've got no choice. 386 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:31.720 If somebody out there sees the value in Adam and things, 387 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:33.879 they're going to give him more money because at didn't. Though. 388 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:35.879 That's you know, I love listening to Brandon Smithia. They're 389 00:16:35.879 --> 00:16:38.639 talking about a lot. We're professional players, especially once you 390 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:41.399 start to get into your career, you've almost got to 391 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:44.000 go where you're making the most money because that also 392 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:46.879 shows what value you are to somebody. So we've got 393 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:48.840 to figure out what his value is to us, and 394 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:50.399 this back end of the season, we need to stick 395 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:51.279 with him at thirteen. 396 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:54.080 Surely he's shown enough in the last three games, whether 397 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:55.600 he's been in the halves or a lock, that he's 398 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:57.279 going to be an asset to the club, So we 399 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:59.279 shouldn't be low balling him at all. In fact, I 400 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:01.799 think he's just Jackie's value up after today's I don't 401 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:03.480