Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the penultimate episode.
Welcome back against to Dexter Resurrection. The penultimate episode EPSOD
nine review and spoys discussion. I'm the fuck you Travis Snell,
and we're joined.
Speaker 2: By I'm the What are we doing tonight?
Speaker 3: The Dexter Morgan Taylor Field.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, yeah, we'll see what that means.
Speaker 3: Oh fuck? Oh no, wait wait wait taylor Field.
Speaker 2: Shift.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought it was gonna be something to add
on the day, like, oh you miss that. No, it's
something completely different. But yes, ladies, Joe, we are here
to talk about dex Resurrection. The finale is next week.
But this is a pretty big loaded episode, so you
know what, We're gonna get right into it. You'll hear
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could be a hot and heavy one. Uh boy, let's
let's go this way. Let's let's start, I assume on
a high note. So, Tarfield, what do you feel about
this episode?
Speaker 3: I really really didn't catch myself not liking it. I
enjoyed it. I had a good time.
Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew the whole time he was
feedless in no I.
Speaker 3: I was reading the complaints, reading the errors and stuff.
Everyone was the discord is popping off, Like Travis was
throwing fire on this show.
Speaker 1: I was the only one though. This is the first time.
I wa waita wait. I felt like, finally, it's like
you're with me. I felt like I fucking was airgorn
and I had the arm and the Dead with me,
and I was like from the yard, that's like, you know, what,
fuck you anyone who lasted a couple of weeks ago.
Some of the comments, well, everyone else likes the show. Yeah, everybody.
Everyone in the fucking world likes the show. You're telling me,
every single person, all million people watch it. I know
many people that aren't just myself, they don't like it.
I digress.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I liked it. I thought, uh, I thought it
was a good episode. There's there's obviously a big elephant
in the room that will break down and we'll talk
about but I I'm I feel like it's subverted expectation
and it's like, well, you know, like if they didn't
go about certain things in the narrative with it, and
we got to season two and season three, then I
don't know how to each his own. I understand people
probably would have wanted a certain thing to kind of
unfold moving forwards, but like I'm I'm generally okay with it.
And maybe it's just because I I can't even say
that because I feel like I'm spoilering it a little bit.
I feel like there's maybe certain things in the past
aren't as fresh with me right now, So I think
that's why I'm just kind of like, oh, it's unfortunate,
but you know, we're Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Will say, because I'm in the YouTube chest saying have
you all got spoiled? Heard the finale leaked? If you've
seen that, even myself has not been spoiled, So nobody
in there, I'll ban you. Anyone drops anything. I've not
been spoiled for the finale, which is kind of a
staple because that actually happened multiple multiple times, either the
Dexter date premiere would get spoiled or the finale. Luckily enough,
season four didn't. But that's funny, that's kind of back.
Whoever's fucking working a Dexter got some loose lips there.
Speaker 3: Ye, it's probably them, considering like not even twelve hours
after the episode releases, and you sent me that video
of just like.
Speaker 1: Screen shirts, I'll screen screen shirt. Yeah. Facebook just popping
off with like pretty much hashtag big moment, and it's like, man,
it's not even been a day and you're already spoiling,
Like what's going I get we're in the media of
like trending and all this stuff, but that's stuff wull
trend by itself. Yes, it's like I just couldn't imagine
you're just like, oh, here, I'm gonna go watch Dexter
like I'm just gonna update my Facebook.
Speaker 3: But you know, but yeah, so I I you know here,
yeah here, we are a penultimate episode and stuff's going on,
and yes, there are definitely some things that are not great,
and I'm oh, it's coming, Oh it's coming. I gotta
make sure just for you, just for you, But uh, yeah, no,
I think that we just got a really good fucking
idea of you know, uh, I.
Speaker 1: Spoiled one for next week to be safe because people
have at least a week to see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that this episode it's Yeah, there are
certain things story wise with the characters that you know,
I'm I can overlook, I'm not super super engaged with
and it's maybe something that I need to revisit and
watch a few of the previous episodes and lead back
into this one just to kind of like get caught
up with it. But I watched it in two parts.
I went to bed last night and put it on
after our session and I watched about like half of
it and I watched the other half.
Speaker 1: To be clear, everyone, we played hell Diver, so we
just faced like, yeah, I'll finish first.
Speaker 2: I want to race.
Speaker 1: It was me Berry, Remember that girl touch your thigh.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to try and convince anyone to force anyone.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 3: I'm just going to highlight like the points that I enjoyed,
what I liked, when I disliked and all that. Just
keep very straightforward because I know, I know Travis is
going to be.
Speaker 2: Very uh.
Speaker 3: Descriptive.
Speaker 1: I'm Batman, the Riddlers, Clyde Phillips. There you go past
the Buck Kirk when the Buck's yours.
Speaker 2: Buck is over to me. Uh yeah, I think this
is a lesser episode. I think there is some really
big moments that just fell so flat, and now that
we've had them, it's like, why do we even go
down this road? Man? Like you know what I mean,
It's it's disappointing that it went that way. Really like
has me in certain ways checked out on like the
overall like big moments of what's gonna be happening next
week for the finale. I think part of me will
still enjoy it just to see, like what are they
gonna do next? But yeah, like, oh might stop myself there.
I won't reveal too much. Yeah, I don't know. There's
some interesting like performance by by Dexter at moments too
in this episode that I wasn't vibing with.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say too much actually because I
feel like I might slip the tongue because there is
some some juice in here. I'm not gonna say it's
rotten or sweet, but yeah, there's definitely juice in here
that I don't want to spoil for anyone that hasn't
seen it. I mean, if you've made it this far,
you know, if you're if you're leading up the penultimate,
I imagine you're gonna be checking out this episode anyways.
So I'm not gonna say anymore, but I am.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I'm like worried for next
week because like what happened in this week's episode, it
was just like, oh, man, like it's tough to recover
from this. So yeah, I'll leave it there. Definitely a
thumbs down in my in my mind, it's unfortunate too,
because last week I thought had a lot of juice
in the positive direction, a sweet nectar. But yeah, I
definitely bit on like a there's like a little little
rock or something in my raisins that that definitely broke
a tooth or something not good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then doctors like call that rock you know
you a bit You're like, yeah, cause you cancer, Like oh.
Speaker 2: Shit, double double uranium rock.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I I'm not gonna go. I could do
a big rant and whatnot. You know. I'm just gonna
say that for spoilers because I think, like you guys said,
there's and for me, it's like multiple there's the big thing,
but there's just multiple things in here where it's hard
to talk about well the full gamut of the situation
and the things that have happened. But I will say, man,
I'm just what I think. I'm more disappointed. I think
I've maybe made this analogy before, but I'll do it again.
To me, this is like if you give a partner
a second. Let's say you had a great relationship, right, Rocky,
and let's say season eight for Dexter's the time that
they cheated on you, right, And then a lot of
time went by, and then new Blood happens and maybe
it's like, you know, lots of time has passed, Let's
give this another go. And then man, you have a
good first year which is new Blood and Resurrection, you're like, oh,
you're starting to see some issues and then you walk
in and man, something's going on in that bedroom that
you don't want to be going on. And that's what
this to me was where they had it. They came back.
I know everyone was happening with new Blood, but I
think new Blood is way better than what we got
with season eight. And they had the fucking Dexter original
sin which way they want to go? Like all this
stuff right, they had the formula like how to keep dexterlive?
E might go see a could narry in that show?
And this is just I agree exactly what might put
in the chat here I Clyde Philps is no longer untainted.
He's down there a Scott buckscutter, and I completely agree
because to me, I've said this before, Scott Phillips always
was quality with Dexter, Dexter one to four and new Blood.
It's like even new bloods on the choices, you could
know that new Blood was way better than those other seasons.
It was like nine days or this does feel very much.
We were talking about before this episode with our patrons
and discord people as far as like, oh, what are
the worst seasons? And that's where I will say, in
two weeks, you know, uh, Tras told you is going
twice a h Did I say, Scott Phillips, So sorry,
Clyde Phillips, Scott Phelps, Scott Buck is the other guy. Yeah, yeah,
we're gonna get him, that Scott Buck. He's dangerous. But
in two weeks, you know, Tras told you he's gonna
be doing twice a week and it's gonna be mostly
just like one main topic you know on our show.
And luckily John gave me an idea that when Dexter ends,
I'm gonna re rank the seasons because I've ranked the
seasons a long time ago, and we got Originalit, we
got new Blood, and now we got this. I need
to sit down and look at all the chips. But
I think now this is heavily in contention for the
worst season of all the shows. And I hate Original Sin.
I do not like that show. But I think it's
in the way of the same way I've said before
Suicide Squad. It's really quality wise, not a top ten
worst combic movie. But for me, there's multiple reasons of
why it is and why I would fight for it.
That's the same thing like this, where they're saving multiple
seasons that are quality wise worse than this, but the
big impact moments that has on now the whole series
is what brings it down. It's like a Rise of
Skywalker Last Jedi situation where it's like, man, this is
the legacy of a lot of stuff now and we
can't we can't go back. Yeah, sure, maybe, like what
are they gonna do? Like before, it's like, oh, well,
people didn't like this ending this thing, so we're gonna
redo it again. Now we're just gonna as part of
there's no going back, and it should have stayed dead
with New Blood and they should have figured something out.
They should have just made Harrison a fucking killer and
did that and just figured it out away. And now
we're here, and yeah, there's there's tons of bad stuff
with this episode, and it's it's all things that we
were like, well, maybe the back half here they can
figure it out. But yeah, I think we're just in
the point of we're hearing the original series. We're doing
really bad big swings, and then the quality of some
stuff just overall is just bad or cheesy, like the
serial Killer room rate. And I think they end up
doing that better than I thought they would, but still
overall didn't go too many places. So yeah, I this was, uh,
this is definitely a top I don't know where, but
in the bottom tier Dexter episodes for for both reasons.
I guess it's not just a big moment. There's we'll
get into it. There's just head scratching stuff of oh,
this happens because we need this to happen, and they
make man Dexter is just a fucking dumb character. Now
it just sucks that this guy who is like so
smart and clevil and procedural, like he just like he
like he just does these things just because why well
we need to do this. It's like okay, I guess. So, yeah,
we will get into spoilers. So if you've not seen it,
lots of big things happen in this episode, so we
will be back and to talk about them. So we'll
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But yeah, let's let's start with it, right, because he
didn't have much to do this episode other than the
big moment, and that's unfortunately the story of Angel Batista
this whole season is. I just remember when New Blood
they introduced him, and we all were like, many, what
a missed opportunity that they introduced him to come down
to Iron Lake and he gets there and they don't
get to see Dexter and x Y and Z right,
and like, oh the what a great hook for resurrection.
That's where you get the hunt, right, And this is
where it sucks, where we talk ab those a few times,
and this is where you know, I discords with me
now because we're all like, well, let's see what happens.
The hunt to me has been underwhelming because other than
last week, there wasn't much going on as Batista hang
around these lame ass cops, right, So you got that
the personal resolution was not that great because we're like, well,
what they're gonna do with this? The first interaction they
had Dexter Batista was fake because it was Dexter like
in the hospital, and the second one was just like
don't come this way, I'm gonna kill you. And we're like, oh, well,
maybe we'll get more into everything that's happened and their
connection and how Dexter actually you know, considered this guy
good guy. No, because Angel Batista's fucking dead because and
that's the problem of the investigation, the personal stuff and
now the like the climactic moment is to me all disappointing,
even to the point where we talked about the Dexter
thing feeling weird. That car scene now when he's just
threatening him and he's telling the other officer like, yeah,
Batista's a fucked up guy, did this, this, and this,
don't trust him. He's a weirdo. Then when Batista, when
Batista's choking Dexter, he's like, man, what a what a
way to go death by my longtime friend. What what
are we doing here? It just like it's they like
take they they've watched the Batista thing so bad. I'm
not even saying let's say Batista's got away, but just
everything this EP this season, what they could have done
and the connections with this character, it feels like somebody
wrote the season and did not watch the original show.
It's like I gave them Cliff, hey, this is what
we're doing all on the show. Make it go like
this or this is what we did in the original show.
Can you make it you know somewhat line one A
to one B. And they they didn't. This is the
guy that was your original showrunner, writer, all that stuff,
Michael C. Hall was there. So it's just just so disappointing.
I think, what the only thing I'll say, like the
zero point five percent of it that I liked is
I liked that Batista did try to take out Dexter,
even though I feel like it kind of makes him
look a little dumb of like we'll just do that
after man. But I did like that Dexter tried to
get a moment with him of like, oh, I'm really
like trying to have a come to Jesus and feel
for each other. But I like that that Batista is
just like, you know, fuck you. But again, as they
put in the discord, it's like, okay, so what is
this supposed to teach Dexter. He they're Doaks, Maria, Harry, Rita,
these are all people that have died. Dexter hasn't killed them.
But it's always a story of oh, I've caused their death.
So it's just like now it's Batista now, It's like
it's the same stuff. It's the same thing of like
I got more to ran on with Harrison later on,
but it's the same stuff of there's nothing new here
that Dexter's we've been here before and Deb that's six,
actually forgot about Deb fucking brain surgeon. God damn got shot.
Like it's just overall very disappointing. And I was very
disappointed that they killed Batista won, but killed him in
this way too fucking prayer.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think the worst part about it is
that there's no way to fix this now, Like there's
no way to save this ending. You know, if you like,
if you if you're watching like where I'm at in
Dexter season five and you see Batista, I'll just know like,
oh that's like I know how he dies. And it's
a very unsatisfying way. It's basically like just a descent into.
Speaker 3: Just failure.
Speaker 2: Like everyone arounds him just thinks that he's like pretending
to be a cop. You know, he's been busted Miami
Metro eve been asked for him to hand over his
badge to New York.
Speaker 1: Wow, his best friend who's captain asked for that happen.
No fucking way that he wouldn't even call him and
be like, hey, what's going on? And then at least
if there's a collumn Batista seems fucking crazy, Quinn could
be like, you know what, I think, Angels lost it.
We're gonna we're gonna do this. But we told us
last week Quinn knows Dexter's fucking shait, Like it's just
no sense.
Speaker 2: And that's what I was saying last week. I posed
a question like do we even see Quinn again? Now
It's like, I think no, But who knows. Maybe next
season he'll just be there. He's gonna be in in
an angel role. He's gonna be like, I know you
fucking are the Bay Heart butcher and then eventually gets
shot by the next plan be a villain of that season.
Speaker 3: So how could he not?
Speaker 1: Though we talked about this last week, if Batista ends
up dead, how of you, as his best friend not
I think that's fucking shady at all.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna spend the rest of my life
to put Dexter, you know, in jail for the Bay
Heart Butcher and then he's dead. Now, like, yeah, Joseph
Quinn must be on some hard drugs or he just
never wants to leave Miami Metro because it's it's it's crazy,
and uh yeah, I didn't love the performance. I feel like,
in hindsight, now, I never really like Batista in this season,
Like like there's some moments where maybe I was just
hoping that it was gonna be going in a certain direction,
but he's just such a goofball and just just so ridiculous.
Like when he when he goes in uh to Praiter's area,
his house or whatever, it's like, I got to talk
to him, you know, his life, his life's in danger.
I got He like goes to pull out his badge.
He's like, oh right, I'm a fucking idiot and I
had to hand that in. I guess I forgot that.
And then he's like getting all in the bodyguard's face.
He's like, okay, listen, here red a cop and he
just like starts fighting this Jos like massive in front
of him, and then yeah, Charlie.
Speaker 1: Kicks all their ass. Therma getz there. Though.
Speaker 2: It's like okay, but man, I don't know, it's just
and like to push back on myself a little bit,
Like I guess he doesn't know by any means the
extent of like Prader's involvement and all this stuff. But
it's just he's just such a goofball And like.
Speaker 1: When I jumped to that, why just jump right away
to reveal everything? This guy you know nothing like yeah,
you're a detective, has nothing to do tail him for
a little bit.
Speaker 2: To save his life, I have to say his life,
you're in danger. Like it's just it's so corny.
Speaker 1: And just watch him for a little bit see what
he does go from there, Like if you see him
just hanging around with Dexter in a fucking weird serial
killer vault, Like I don't know, It's just it was
a weird play to go right away.
Speaker 2: To reveal all that stuff, and like having this like
right after him just lit up by the cops, you know,
like we basically threatening him that they'll like arrest him
for impersonating a cop, like go home, man, like you're
your fucking failure. All these things. Uh, Like he just
has no plan bing like I'm just gonna go into
the sunset one way or another. I'm gonna take down
Dexter or I'm gonna die, Like it's just yeah, it's
it's poor writing, it's lazy, and it's a it's a
big shame for him being like a legacy character. And
then that's how it goes out.
Speaker 1: It's a.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, it's disappointing. I wish he just stayed
in Miami.
Speaker 1: I do too, I really do. And yeah, SuperM Mix
says at this point, I'm expecting this Sue could be
the hero of finally Cap Dexter, and that's where it
just that's where it sucks because that's gone, and maybe
that's what they want. They want all that Miami original
stuff to be gone. But then, like Kirklan said, just
keep it in Miami. Then, you know, I'd rather just
know that Batista retired nicely somewhere. This guy is a
fucking kid, like just like like leave him alone. Like
it's just a because again, I'm completely fine if you
bring Batista back into the show and you have to
kill him off, if it's satisfying, it feels like, man,
that was a great story worth telling, you know, like
even like also very different, right, but even Laguerda in
season seven kill off later on. But that was like, Okay,
we got to a certain point where man, what a moment.
Dev finally knows Dexter is what he is. She has
to choose between killing Maguera and kills Dexter, she kills
LaGuerta her mentor she killed an instant person. And it's
this whole storyline right where this like does this really
get us anywhere? Probably? No. It's Batista's dead and he
Dexter's gonna be sad about it for a little bit
and that's it, you know, like I said, And what
he's gonna do, He's gonna use as a reason like
I don't know Harrison if we can would be together,
because he already was talking about I can't remember what
the exact line was, but they were talking about him
putting him in danger and that because Harrison's like, oh, well,
I just expect you might leave at some point again
because you know what you do. So I think they
might use this as a reason for him to I
think Harrison will always be in the show, but maybe
to keep his distance. But it's again, it's just like,
how does Dexter not learn this already? Like we've we've
we've done this and stuff. I just I don't understand
what the purpose of Batista dying here he is. It's
like what does it do? And like even then, like
I don't want to say that, we'll get to another point.
I don't want to ramp that way. But Taylor Field,
what did you feel about Angel Batista former cap from
Miami Metro Rip just dead? Prayer's fucking vault just gonna
be rawing away in there. No one's gonna know, you know,
uh so Jesus.
Speaker 3: Right at this point, I feel like, Okay, he most
likely was gonna come out dead the way he's talking
to Quitnessuka, like it was just it was leading towards this,
and even Dexter saying like, you know, you keep pursuing
this and coming after me.
Speaker 1: I wonder if the people that don't watch the show wonder, like,
why is Christian Slater's Harry?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, people that haven't seen original sim Yeah,
like even the other one when you did with them
in the mirror, So I'd like, oh, okay, maybe they
put him in there for that, But this is like,
why is Batist still looking at him?
Speaker 1: But that was Christian Slator's face? Was me this entire
last fifteen minutes nicely. But yeah, so when people don't
know it's Batista on the train and me, it's the
same face. Fatista's on the train and he's looking through
the window and he's watching that Christian Slater Harry.
Speaker 2: So there, you could probably fit in per Drogue actually
in there good.
Speaker 3: But you know, I just felt like, okay, yeah, he
was gonna he was gonna die. And so when you
pitch the idea of him teaming up and what I thought,
you know, okay, that would be cool. But then when
it holds up and it almost happened, when that goes
on for two to three seasons, like is he just
gonna like she is batistic, gonna say, oh, you know,
you save me, Like okay, maybe you're not so bad,
Like I'll let you go off and I'll catch up
to you eventually.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It could go off a million
different ways. And I think people expected that team up
and I think they're kind of being games are throned
a little bit where it didn't happen. It's serverted the expectations,
and that's why it's pissing people off. Totally get that,
especially because you know Batista. He's he's an og character
and you want to handle that delicately with how he's off.
But for me, I think, okay, you know, he's he's killed.
It's unfortunate, but I think at this point, like he's
he's here because he's he's not in a very stable headspace,
because he's just getting obsessed with at this point like
Doakes was. And yes, we've seen it before. I don't
have much of a problem with it because I haven't
revisited those seasons recently, so they're me is distant and
I'm not fresh in the mind. So for this it
feels a little bit more newer. But I understand where
the diehard fans are coming from. But he's obsessed. He's
mentally not there, like he's he's pulling like his his
cop ploy a little bit when he's not supposed to
because he's he's not with the force anymore. But he's
trying to get the answers. And he's trying to because
that's whose character is. He's very you know el past
he's a very passionate guy and he's always been and
he wants to get these answers. And so when he's
on the cusp of getting it with Maria and all that.
I love that scene a lot when Dexter is just
breaking it down to him and just admits, like, hey,
I didn't kill them, and this is more dialogue and
correct me if I'm wrong, But I feel like this
is more dialogue than we really see him get in
these kind of moments with like someone that's very close
to him. And so when he breaks that down and
like he's he's opening up like hey, yeah, like I
didn't kill them and it doesn't matter to Batista. Batista
was still willing, like he knew the situation he was in,
but he's still willing. Just all that, just had to
kill Dexter because it's like Dexter, Dexter's the problem, right like,
and he like, everyone you're around this guy, you're gonna
get killed. And he just wants to put an end
to that for at least for Maria. And I don't
blame him in the sense too. When he finally has
him dead to rights and like he slander does his
name and everything, and I couldn't even imagine, I could
you imagine like twenty years in the future in retrospect,
like I'm I'm dead and you find out that Kirkland
framed me or whatever, like it's just be it would
fuck it, would be fucked up, would fuck with you.
And so I think him just being overwhelmed and just
him just going after Dexter and choking him. I think
it it it. It caught me off guard, but I
was still riding along with in that train. And I
liked the whole dialogue inside Dexter's head too, when he
like he freed him and he thought like, oh well
to see up and again. But its subverted expectations and
it totally changed the dynamic, and I thought, okay, you know,
I liked that they went that route and it was
just it was quick and it was just a quick
one on one here. And I liked that Dexter was
very super just. He was emostly compromised, and I liked that,
you know, he didn't compromise too, like killing him.
Speaker 2: He didn't.
Speaker 3: He didn't kill him. And I it's just it's yeah,
but it's going to be up for debate. It's going
to be a a contention point for sure amongst the community.
Speaker 1: I have to ask you then, so for for you
because also you enjoy us a lot more than us,
and you pointed out like that's the point, right, Like
dex is the problem. But I think that I want
to ask you, like what do you do with this show?
Because clearly they're just gonna keep going for you know,
money and do this stuff, Like, but what do you
do when even in the finale of the original show,
that's why Dexter drives his bowed into a fucking storm,
right because he realizes that he's a problem. So like,
since the show has ended, Dexter's had this epiphany that
everyone around him dies. This is still going on. He's
setting out Parrison in terrible ways, like yeah, I just
go fuck that chick. We'll be cool, Like what are
you fucking kidding me? How many times has this? He
even followed this season and he's like, well, they don't
know where I live? How do you not know? Chary
the whole time just fucking didn't follow you? Like you like,
this is a situation where even like go back to Trinity, right,
he had no idea Trinity knew where he lived. And
then when he got back home like, fuck, I didn't
think about this. He killed Rita Harrison's there. I fucked
up big time. I can never let this happen again.
Him just like, yeah, go ahead, go fuck this chick
in her house. You'll be safe there. What are you
kidding me? So that's what I mean Like that and
the other thing, My god, what fucking little dick energy
Dexter had going into Praterer's place, this high security sweet
thinking like, h he's gonna end it with a knife
in his stomach. It's like you're meeting him on his
terms the day he picked his location, and that's where
I the layup was right there where all you do
is Dexter's like, oh, I'm not gonna go there, like
I don't feel safe if we're having to Charlie and
they did their reveal anyways, She's like, hey, you you
know fucking Angel Batista, you suppose friend, we have him here.
We're gonna fucking slaughter this guy if you don't show up,
and at least then we could have got Batisa like
deck because Dexter got them all right where he didn't
want to kill Batista, but that would give him like
even some er deemon qualities of you know what, when
he saw Batista, he said, I'm gonna have to kill you.
But when it's faced with it. He goes, you know what,
I can't let this guy die because of me. I'm
gonna go there try and save him. Dexter just walk
in all big pimp and like, oh, I've been excited
his conversation. First room he walks in, Charlie has a
gun on him. He's such an idiot, Like I could
not believe, like the like that's where he would agree
to meet in Prayer's high security suite, like it just
going to the vault, like it made zero sense for Dexter. Ever,
there's so many times as a character he has not
done that. He'll find the right place, right time whatever,
Like even Trinity, Dad, that's how he fucked up. He
had Trinity dead to right. It's like three times. But
because it wasn't the right situation he could you know,
he wasn't gonna do it. So the fact that he
just willy nilly and again it'd be different. Harrison wasn't around.
Dex Want's be like risk taker. Fine, but his son's there,
and he supposedly carries on the fact that he went
into Prayter's suite like just and not even worried. It
wasn't like this could be a trap. I gotta prepare
for this, it could be something in the narration everything.
He's confident that this is just gonna go his way,
like he he has it, like it's what happened to
Dexter Morgan, you know what happened to him.
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, pretty pretty pathetic. I completely agree with you.
I think there's so many red flags leading up to it,
But the biggest one for me is that, like the
whole Charlie interaction, like he just choked her out and
just assumed that she wasn't gonna tell Prater or like
there was gonna be repercussions for anything on this, Like
are you kidding me? I feel like this, like this
is the reason why they're like often people like this.
Speaker 3: But there wasn't supposed to be, Like there wasn't supposed
to be cause Batista was supposed to be a factor
in that. Right, that was an out of left field
thing that went. Everything spiraled right because Prater was just
eating it up and loving that Charlie survived this encounter
and YadA YadA, and he was thinking it was something else.
He was thinking, Okay, this is red doing something until
Batista changed the dynamic.
Speaker 1: The only thing is did the call happen the Dexter
step called that happened before after Batista.
Speaker 3: That was before, So that's what I mean.
Speaker 1: So to Kirklan's point, there was still enacting this plan
of like Charlie told Praterer and Prayer, let's have this
car like Batista. Change none of that other than like
like it really changed, none of it because it's just
like you're the Behrror Butcher and that's really cool, Like
that's all changed. I still think their plan was going
to be to get a gun on them and do something,
because it's just like that's.
Speaker 3: What we'll never know, really, I mean maybe unless they
talk about the next episode, because like he because at
this point Crater thinks, okay, everyone else has just ran
away accidents whatever, Like he's eating it up. And when
Charlie shows him like her her neck off, like he's
just like salavating, like this is great. Oh I fucking
love this, Like I got an amazing guy here, Like
he wants to just go full on into this guy.
And so I think it does. I think it does
change because I think, Okay, his meeting would have been
very different, and now his meeting is like oh an initiation, Well,
I mean that being said his meeting, maybe the whole
time the meeting was always just like I want you
to be my main guy, the benefactor, whatnot because that stood.
Speaker 1: Well, no, that was before the Behrbord Butcher, the beher
butcher he is, he is the bearer Butcher. Now, my god,
but that was before. Now he wanted to do his
whole thing like oh, collect killers and have you killed them? Right?
So I don't know what it like, what was this
beneficial before, like I'll get you a bunch of you
ride gift cards to give to people and kill him. Like,
I don't know, but we kind of went off. I
want to ask you to because yeah, I said, because
you enjoy us more? What like, what is the how
do you continue this character's arc?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 1: If this is probably the third fourth time, then he's realized,
well I'm bad. It ends with him screaming he's doing
the Dexter season five thing where he kills that guy
in the fucking bathroom and he's mad about read. It's
the exact same scene again, but like, what do you
do then, Taylor? When you're like, oh, he knows he's
a problem, how do you make the show keep going
if this guy just realizes he's such an issue, but cool, like, like,
what's the growth here? What do we do with him?
Speaker 3: Like so that he knows he's at this point or
he knows that he's Dexter what like and moving forward
at which point like which.
Speaker 1: Dexter's always known himself as Dexter.
Speaker 3: No, I mean like like prayers, what you mean, right,
I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, that's not the question. No, he's gonna die next episode.
Dexter is gonna get him. I'm saying, how do you
move forward Dexter, who multiple times has come the same
conclude vision of he is the problem?
Speaker 3: You know, it's tough because they're making money from the show,
so that they're gonna keeping at it.
Speaker 1: I think this is why people that well, I think
people will turn on but now, but people that really
like this season, I do get it because it's just
the Dexter killer stuff is fun. So that's great that
I understand. But that's where it's like with this character,
there is nothing more to do, and they're just recycling
the same storyline. So it's just because like, what what happened?
What does he take from Batista dying? Taor like what
is does he just carry on as usual? You know,
he just continues to live a fucking Blessing who is
the fucking ripper by the way, that in this episode
was shady as fucking man that he's giving. Get ready
next week, Taylor, get fucking ready, it's coming. I guarantee
you whiz.
Speaker 2: When he gets up from the scene, I literally just like.
Speaker 1: He's still, man, what do you want from me after
you try? My life?
Speaker 3: Fucked me? But what about what the cops are saying, like, oh,
it's a city worker or something like that has access
to the type of equipment that.
Speaker 1: Could be wrong as well. He's got the ice truck
killer wrong.
Speaker 2: Remember they thought was the book said Blessing knows everything
in his vehicle. I bet he's got a fucking hook
that the ripper has there.
Speaker 1: On his back. Sweet, you can rent that for fifty dollars.
Speaker 3: What about the concept though, that it could be someone
who's older and that's why Prayterer's like wheelchair access because
he has someone that's going to be pulling up there,
and it makes sense it could be a cop that
is this that was the New York Ripper because it's
a cop benefactor for cops and that's why once wheelchair access,
because's gonna be an older guy. We know that the
weapon was taken from a male. We know that the
ripper is someone who's working as a serial killer before
the female detective went into the police force, so we
know it's someone who is older, much older. Some things
got hurt.
Speaker 1: He's got grain as beard man.
Speaker 3: But did he ever work for government though? That's the thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe how do we not know his wife? Probably get
his wife to do a background check on him and
he'll get.
Speaker 3: The other thought too, is that everyone believes that it's
Joy's uh fiance, blessings, daughters, partners, everyone. I don't know
where that came from. Everyone.
Speaker 1: Everyone's saying they need to reveal who this is next
week because these series are getting out of control. This
is dumb stuff. No, I I only has to be that.
I don't think Prater is going to know who in
the New York Ripper is because I think Praiterer's dead
next week. I don't think they have any time for that.
I think it's dex Are escaping the vault because it's
gonna be like a fifty minute episode, right like Dexter
escaping the vault, Harrison's in trouble, the Praterer's Galla thing,
and then Dexter killing him.
Speaker 3: So I don't think there's let me know, do you
see this photo? This is another thought. People are like, oh,
he's the New York Ripper because.
Speaker 2: It's right, because it's behind him.
Speaker 1: That would be bad as well too, like out of control.
I don't think it's that, and that's why I just
I think it's just blessing. I really do. The way
they're making them like he's he's he seems off, and
I think they keep there's no reason to have this
scene of him being mad at Dexter. What did it
add to this episode? And just him like dex are
saying sorry again and shaking his hand. They are reminding
you that this guy's in here and he's a littel
in the darker side. That's so I'm telling you just
get ready for it. It's coming. It's gonna be blessing.
And that's the setup. And I don't know what.
Speaker 3: Are you sure? You said your your your your streak
though you don't got a streak. You said that Batista's
gonna team up with dex.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about Well, it almost happened. Your
streak's not good either, Lady Vengeance. What did you lose
the pizza? So don't let's not start about streaks and stuff.
So I'm not gonna say one hundred percent, but I'm
gonna say I'm ninety percent. I'm Blessing again. I hope
it's just they leave it next season and they get
a cool actor. That's what I hope. But why would
when you have forty seven minutes of screen time in
this Penulton episode, what does it get? Like? What did
why would bless him be in this?
Speaker 3: What does it do to show he had to pick
up Harrison couldn't be Dexter to pick him up, you
could easily do.
Speaker 1: They never even had to make that a stop thing.
They could just be like, hey, I sent you taxi money,
take the taxi. They didn't have to do that at all.
Speaker 2: That I'm telling you, man, with what they've done already
with the show, I wouldn't even put it out of
the real possibility that it isn't Blessing And like there's
just no resolution of the character. He was just there
to have a location for Dexter this season, and then
you just fucked over his life because he's a blabber mouth,
and then we just never see Blessing again. Like I
wouldn't put them, put past them for just with how
some of the ready to have been the season. But
I wanted to be Jonah and I wanted to I
think I think that works because you know you can,
you can have the big reveal and then uh.
Speaker 1: Get gets us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gets there's a lot worse options out there.
Speaker 1: There is, but I've heard some of the Yeah I
don't rena kids, I'm not taking.
Speaker 2: Taking the new gem and I kill But it's those two, yeah.
Speaker 1: Says I hope yours is right. It's John hann next season.
Sure give me John hamm Man, like that's that's great.
And Mike, you're right, you're acting like they have a plan.
They just wasted Batista. Blessing could just be what it is. Yeah,
you know what, Like you're right, I no, I agree
with you both. I'll say I agree with you. I'll
agree with you with Girklin and then the assistant Mike.
But yeah, it's that thing of like I can't have them.
There's not much faith I have here. So yeah, well,
I guess we'll talk about next week or honestly, to
be smart, what they would do even if it was blessing,
don't even reveal who the New York Ripper is because
you can just have the whole off season of fans
theory crafting. That's what I would do. It's a short
and not Tom Cruise. I would just have the whole
season them theory crafting and doing this and that. Like
that would be smarter unless there's a big reveal, because
like it was a big reveal, it's fucking blessing. It's like,
you know, super Mike says, right, you switch to it's
gonna be Gigi's dad anyways, that's what you shifted to,
right that could there's your John Hamm moment of like,
oh meet my dad. Oh hi, Dixter Morgan, who are you?
And he's like, I'm the New York Ripper. No, he's
gonna give his name and stuff. But yeah, I guess
we didn't really break down that scene too of you know,
Tay talk about Prayer wanted to do this whole benefactor thing.
If you kill Batista, I'll bring in killers and we'll
work together and everything like that. And that's another thing.
Me and Mike we're talking to this court. I thought, man,
that what a clever way they're gonna get out of this.
Dexter's gonna be dead to rights and he's gonna look
at Prayer and say, I can't kill this guy. He
doesn't fit the code. And Praterer, who's a fucking serial
killer Junkie would like respect it and understand it because
he's always like what's the process and what's just like
he's hard all the time and he like when Charlie
wh he's looking at Charlie's neck wound. That guy was bursting,
the zipper was broken. He was oh no, like he
looked like Mugatu and Zu then like, oh like he
was having a good time there. So I was like, oh,
what a what a smart way of Hey, we I
can't kill I will kill this I'll do this for you,
but I can't kill this guy. If you want me
to be the Bay Harbor butcher, this is not a
Bay Harbor victim. And no, they didn't even they even
like dex didn't even try. Didn't even do that, Thank you,
says we Stan Tras John Ham impression, you know, watching
mad Men for years finally paid off. But no, that
didn't matter and Prayter just wanted him to get killed.
And then yeah, Prayder shot Batista a lot. Uh, they're
like six bollet wounds. And then he was looking all
like fucking again, like turned on when Charlie told took
him away because he's finally took in a life. But
I also didn't buy that they had to run. They
have the gun, like, just give the gun to Charlie
and headshot Dexter in that moment, like why are they
running away from stupid? He's got an actor? Cool? You
have a fucking autit. Yeah, you have automatic weapon, dude,
like shoot They go like and again, I guess maybe
the clip is out made. No, it wasn't, because he
shot and he missed and he hit a tea cup
beside Dexter.
Speaker 2: So sans probably because he's so obsessed with Dexter. He's
so obsessed with kill him. And yeah, I don't know,
like like how does this end with Prater? Is Dexter
just gonna kill him? Yes, Charlie gonna kill him. No,
there was moments of like, I don't know what's the
word I'm looking.
Speaker 3: Charlie can't kill him because Charlie needs him alive so.
Speaker 1: That she can Yeah, she picked her side they were doing.
That was the two fake outs they did. If Dexter
and Patista teaming up and her doing a good girl turn.
I think Harrison might kill Charlie as blame as that is.
I think that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna get the mom he just.
Speaker 1: Takes Harrison too. And that's the I don't get wrong.
That'd be great if they killed I like Harrison the character,
but they killed Harrison the man. At least we Dexter's
really motivated. Like I To me, the show would work
better if Dexter was alone for just a character moments,
because then you can just have Dexter being doing kill
her stuff because the the connuity character development doesn't work
when he has his son around.
Speaker 2: But the villains of next season are gonna be the
duo of Rita's kids, you know, trying to replace Harrison.
So they're gonna murder Harrison.
Speaker 1: And oh that'd be great Dexter and Harrison versus Yeah, yeah,
I know those seven of three New York Rippers he's
into with Jonah. And then season three is you get
all the kids. Every every season is a fucking villain.
Speaker 2: Pull someone for the original show and just butcher them,
just absolutely make them like, yeah, just just ruin their
like previous iterations of the characters.
Speaker 1: Season four, h Hanna Mackay had a son we didn't
know about and he shows up. And then season five
you can get the fucking cop from Iron Lake and
her daughter. Remember that Harrison was banging she's out there,
she's still she still love Harrison, right.
Speaker 2: Or even just get out of my tone?
Speaker 1: Can I remember when you killed my best friend? Yeah,
we're good, go ahead, This fucking shows. I mean from
the beginning, we should have known. We should have known
from the New Blood retcon that we were in trouble,
but we were like, well, they just had to set
it up. But yeah, so they run away and then
they lock him in the safe. I'll be very curious
to how he gets out of said like high security save.
Speaker 3: You don't that door's open in one way unless he
pulls his God card out.
Speaker 1: You want a pizza, Bet that Dexter finds a help.
Dexter's finding way out. He's gotting no good thing. I
took that sign a science class in grade six or whatever,
and he's like fucking like you know, if you throw
water on a door and leave for forty minutes, it melts.
Speaker 2: They're not even gonna show it. It's just next episode
gonna start. He's ready to be out of the fucking vault.
Speaker 1: Where Yeah, exactly, they could they could they just start
like that. I think he will be in the vault,
but this like, yes, can we also say that they
waste him with them or casting too? Yeah? Absolutely, that
was a big Again, I don't know what her rate is,
if she's getting paid a good amount, not against her,
but this is the first episode where she's some scenes
there was nothing, but yeah, I think Prader took back
to Kirkan the guass houses end, Prayder's on the table,
he gets to kill room, and I think uh Uma
Thurma gets killed either by the the duo of the
Morgan's or just Harrison because they're kind of setting it
up that like she's intimidating him this and that, and
I like they had a little connection, so I feel,
which is just kind of fun any that, like Harrison's
gonna kill this fucking assassin, Like we're just gonna around
with this guy with no training's gonna take out this assassin.
But you know that's what's gonna happen. I think, even
if it's like a accidental thing.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited for it to just go to the
the whole Gallas sequence. I think we're gonna have just
chaos kind of unfold there and in some shape or form,
Praders can be doing something.
Speaker 1: Dexter pulls a bull's eye and Dexter or Daredel season
three goes the gal out with no no, he shows
with a gallop of Angel's body little great Knight. Yeah,
Trader and Charlie are in the Vanessa kingfin rolling the runaway.
That'd be so great.
Speaker 3: These are great cash just in front of Prader saves
the bullet or something. Oh my god, just like Daredevil.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, anyone. Does anyone think Praiders make it
out next week? Prayer, I'll say, prayer on Charlie. I
think they're both dead, thank you said.
Speaker 3: I think what Ponytail Rapunzel is dead too, Like he's
gonna be the end credit scene of the next week's
episode two. I think it's gonna show Dexter killing him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that, like the Lilt treatment. We've
talked about that before.
Speaker 2: So Dexter just fast travels there.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think Charlie's gonna live, I hope, but.
Speaker 3: The mom's gonna die.
Speaker 1: You hope Charlie's gonna live? Why do you?
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 2: Hopefully there's more juice on the Umatherma casting, But I
don't have I don't know if Hope actually never mind.
She's she's she's dying or something, or or maybe Dexter
gets rid of Prader and then she doesn't die, but
like she's never coming back in the show. Like somehow
maybe the mom dies.
Speaker 3: And illumine your life or take Carson raise him.
Speaker 1: No, you know what you can call her Hannah. I
don't want this fuck like I don't want to pay
this child's worn and stuff. No, I want him to
go full ham. I want Dexter like if he's if
Dexter goes off the wheel because the Batista thing, I
want him to fucking kill her mom. I want that
to be the thing where they kill Prayeder. She thinks
she gets away and she comes in the fucking she
comes home. Imagine that she comes home checking her mom,
and when she walks in that.
Speaker 3: Room, it's the mom.
Speaker 2: It's the mom that rolls down the stairs.
Speaker 1: Mummy. Fuck yeah, He's like no, but anyways, I actually
would like that because we're just in crazy field now
for the show. But the actually good version is imagine
Charlie walking into the hospital room like that she has
in her house check on her mom has covered in
plastic and you're just like, oh my fucking god, and
you looking decks are standing right over top of mom.
And then and then oh, you know what they can do.
They do the team up where then Harrison hits her
with the needle and then you know, do the the
poor mom she's getting the it's over for you treatment
pretty much like text work in.
Speaker 3: The corner of the room and have no idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's she as her daughter is in the military,
like an accomplished military lady. So no, yeah, I went
Dexter the you know, no, I actually yeah, I don't
care what Dexter does. He's a terrible character. Now let's
take our last ad break here and we'll be right back.
Let's see. Uh yeah, okay, yeah, probably tell that. Yeah.
I think he'll get the Lilah treatment, even though again
I'd like them to save him for season two. He'd
be like a fun like like boss like one a
before we get to uh Ripper. I'd like that as
like a little side quest there. So fingers crossed, that
doesn't happen. What else we talk? Yeah, again, we talked
about it briefly. I just maybe we'll see you next season.
I don't know. I just can't believe for a second
that Batista would have got a shield taken away without
talking to Quinn. That and again, you it'd be different
if they go on for one shit like scene. They
got that actor back to do one phone call scene
after that. The more phone call important scene is not
the fucking scene with the rand Beijie's cop. All you
have to do with her is she's looking at the information.
She calls us, hey, can I speak to your captain
and the other end is like, oh well, patch you
Lieutenant Quinn or you know, Captain Quinn. And the next
time you use this actor for that phone scene, it's
him calling Batista like what are you doing? Like I
got this call that you're doing this, You're breaking into things,
You're saying the case open, like what are you talking?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: That's the juice scene is Quinn talking and Patisa, not
the Begi's cop. And that's gone. So that's where it's like,
I don't know, and that's what they could do, right,
They can make it that Quinn's gonna feel fucking bad
because he took his shield away and he set his
friend up. But it's just I'm not happy either way,
because yeah, what is it we get Quinn next season
in Masuka the next season or is it just Quinn?
It's like man batistaid, that sucks. Well, we had a
good run best friend because he referred to him as
his best friend. Oh, my best friends, you were retiring
and stuff. So it's just like he dies in these
shady circumstances. I think what they're gonna do, unfortunately, is
they're gonna put all that stuff I want for Quinn
onto the begee's cop that oh she didn't listen to
Batista and he was onto something and he died randomly
and Dexter got away. Like every guilt thing that Quinn
could have, it's gonna be on uh uh So.
Speaker 2: I can see that for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about what else do we want to talk about?
Speaker 4: Here?
Speaker 1: Says can someone let trast into the Ryers room for
season two? Well, if you look at last week, there's
a comment said like I'd like to see one of
these guys even try to direct a Dexter episode. See
how easy it is? Oh my god, again if you're
gonna be easy, Hey, yeah, we've we've directed and produced
an award winning festival film. We got the credentials. Let
us in there and we'll help just you know, spitball
some stuff. Like does that make sense? Like again, I'm
not pitching. If you're like, hey, we only got the
budget for Quinn to be in one more scene. I'm
not pitching another budget scene, Like I'll get him for
the third. I'm pitching, how about use him for this?
Use like do this with Quinn, not does this random thing.
And even then, like I'd still rather have like missus
who can quit not be there just for the retirement
party at the bar. Like it's just that's the thing
that they got all the pieces, they had all the
great stuff, and they've just kind of squandered them. But
uh oh yeah, I would, Uh I would love to.
But let's see. Yeah, Superman says I cannot believe Beg's
cop could be a multi season character. I think she
will because he're connections with Harrison and everything. And even
then they're just like yeah that Harrison Morgan guy's dad,
like get out us the weapon like they're they're talking
about Dexter helping them. They haven't forgotten that, so it's
just h yeah, not looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I uh, I'm not looking for to that either.
I wanted to shout out because I forgot to mention
it earlier. But when Dexter is choking out Charlie in
the car, he's doing this like sinister voice that's just
so different than Dexter, and man, it just took me
so out of the seat, like like.
Speaker 1: Me trying to be read. Remember, but I don't know
why it has to be that.
Speaker 2: You are correct, I still don't like it.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to do that though they don't know
how Red speaks. He's just like having fun cause playing
is Red.
Speaker 2: He likes it. He likes me in the dark Passenger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got no more comments and then yeah you're
writing it was fine and that's it. Why did you
call you Red?
Speaker 3: I got the uh chat GPT sequel. You guys are
ready well not yet.
Speaker 1: Hang, let's just calm down. First of all, you didn't
set up what the sequels to. Let's just finish our
thought this up and I was just gone, my god.
Uh yeah. We talked about, uh, what's the girl's name,
Harrison's is it Gigi? Right? The girlfriend? Yeah, gg same thing.
I already said that a little bit. But I thought
I was done them both. I thought it was done
for Dexter be like, yeah, you can go to her place.
And I also thought it was done for Harrison. Have
anyone over, because you're putting her life at risk, Like
what if you get abducted and you're with her? You know,
it's just like and you've gotta walk like we've all
seen breaking bad look what like? And that that to
me again an amazing show. Who mistakes? Don't do this
something really bad? It's gonna happen to you. Said character
does that, Okay, we're gonna fucking this woman that it's
over for you. There's no idea what you're doing. Where
she was a kid, We're just gonna murder right in
front of you. We're gonna strap you down the back.
So you're gonna watch this and then you're gonna drive
back and guess what, start cooking, motherfucker. Like there's no
there's no and that that character learns and and do
I think Harrison's gonna learn? Do I think Charlie's gonna
get Gigi and murder him from him?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I would love that because be like, oh, you've now
learned the lesson that Dexter, unfortunate has learned five to
six times. But still it just felt odd that his
life is at risk, his dad's life is at risk,
and I'm here to get laid.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, it seems like a weird this guy Isay, what.
Speaker 1: The fuck is he doing over here? What is he
doing here? What are you trying to eat? Off screen?
Speaker 3: Are dick?
Speaker 1: Like? What's happening over there?
Speaker 3: Keep talking?
Speaker 1: I can't keep talking, Like what are you working on?
The God?
Speaker 2: I lost my train of thought now, yeah, no, it
it just seems like a terrible spot to be having
this Gigi character interacting if she's not like directly tied
to the ripper, and I don't want that to be
the case. So I'm definitely not loving what's what's going
on there. I did like the scene as my Name
is set up when Dexter or yeah, he walks in
on them like about to bone and then you're just
like chilling there. You're like so what are we doing tonight?
Speaker 3: I got cards?
Speaker 1: That was good.
Speaker 2: It was a fun moment. But then you know, two
seconds later they're like, all right, we're gonna leave. He's like, yeah,
you should be good. I have a good one. It's
just weird, weird, weird behavior.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to uh kirk Land, Mike's point again another
moment of the season. What was the storyline and the
point for Harrison and that girl the kid? Really nothing?
Speaker 2: So it was even in this episode. Maybe she's the ripper,
that's the whole thing she's doing night at school. Maybe
it's not long a night school.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I can't take anywhere ripper theories, Kirkling.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't do this. But yeah, another storyline they just
introduced the season really didn't do much with it.
Speaker 3: So I think there'll be something between and her and
her challenging situation. Yeah, no, I think I think there'll
be some kind of thing. I don't think's out of
the woods yet. I think she she people were saying
she could be like the Lilah of Oh.
Speaker 2: Please, No, I just got through Lila. That was like
the longest season.
Speaker 1: More. I will give it a pass. I'll get the
pass and they have a GG Harrison sex and and
they play that song. I will give the season a
ten out of ten.
Speaker 4: It has to come to me more specifically, it has
to be that song, same lighting, Like why.
Speaker 1: Are you talking aout British accent? Now, Gigi, this is
my reaccent. Lilah was my mother. Yeah, I know you
killed a Dextam logan.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 1: We got season six. Yeah, season six a return of
Lilah's kid that's actually Dexter's kid. We didn't get the
year jumped. We didn't. They do a flashback where he
killed Lilah and then like the babysitter comes and like
love me, I'm home and then like no, just Lilah's
den the couch and of course and no, it's there.
It's the it's the it's the fucking postcard that Dexter
left with James Doakes on it. And then Lylah's daughter
goes back, finds out James Doak is innocent and it's Dexter.
There go, we wrote it. We got it there. So
anything else we're missing here, but about that prayer, Dexter blessing.
Speaker 2: Anything?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well yeah, we'll be back next week. We
are gonna we have Little Sigmon here because a couple
weeks ago we did Dexter meets Mission Impossible. Uh, this
is the sequel. You didn't do the Predator, right? Are
we doing that another time?
Speaker 3: The Predator? Like the Predator? Yeah, I didn't put that
in here. No, honestly, that could tie into the sequel
to this, So.
Speaker 1: I've stuper Mike says, she's definitely bad news. If not,
I give up on any payoff in this show, that's fair. Yeah, no,
I've I've been tinkering with a show idea, you know,
because I feel like I got a pitch Dell because
he doesn't always love it. But maybe it's just be
us three of a Patreon exclusive show of us just
throwing some wacky ideas because we got the new shows
coming next year. So I would very much like to
see Dexter Morgan versus the Yatcha and him. I want
to see Dexi Morgan wake up of the on the
Predator killers Killer's planet, and he'd be one of them.
But yeah, okay, give us the sequel for because if
you don't remember the last thing as we else happened
is it was me and Kirk Laps So we talked
about what if when Dexter was arrested Batista took off
his mask or something like that, and it was Ethan Hunt.
And then in the last one we did a chat
GPT where wrote Dexter in a Mission Possible movie, he
was wild going after Culp. But then I also revealed
that Doakes used to be an agent and he was
still alive. So there you go. Taylor phil Leis on
the sequel and if yeah, people don't know, James Jokes
told Ethan that he had to recruit Dexter Morgan into
the Mission Impossible unit, and here we go. So Taylor
laid on us.
Speaker 3: Okay, Mission Impossible, the Dark Passenger protocol, that's what it's called.
Speaker 1: Uh So the dark So we've had ghost protocol, so
it's a dark.
Speaker 3: Protocol now, okay, dark passenger protocol.
Speaker 1: Dark passenger, Oh no, a protocol for dark path.
Speaker 3: So years had passed since the chaos of Project Chimera,
but Dexter Morgan was no longer just a fugitive or
a killer Against every conceivable odd, he had been integrated
into the IMF. He was Ethan Hunt's most controversial decision.
To date, one that many in the agency I would think, so,
I would say, so yeah. One that many in the
agency had resisted but ultimately couldn't deny. Dexter's efficiency and
eliminating threats was too valuable to waste. Now he was
part of the team, though under the strict watch of
one man. James Doakes.
Speaker 1: Jokes, is like Ethan Hunt's handler. Now you know, like
he's above them. That means Doakes will say the other
world a bunch of times we didn't even know about.
Speaker 3: So Doakes, resurrected from presumed death, have been assigned as
Dexter's handler. Every mission briefing turned into a shouting match.
Doakes still didn't buy Dexter's redemption, didn't buy his loyalty,
and sure is held, didn't buy his cool clinical charm.
Don't think for a second you belong here, Doaks, growled,
pacing around the safe house in Marrakesh. The only thing
you're good with is a scalpel. Motherfucker. You're not im
You're a goddamn line movie.
Speaker 1: You know James King's gonna act as shit these scenes.
Speaker 3: You know. Dexter just tilted his head, offering his usual
quiet smile. You'd be surprised how transferable my skills are. Ethan.
Ethan entered, cutting through the tension like a blade. We
don't have time for this if we're going to stop
Nikolai Resnikov's orbital weapons program.
Speaker 1: Wow, what a.
Speaker 3: We need everyone focused, that includes you. Dokes Doakes muttered
focused my ass but fell into step. For Dexter, it
was familiar. It was a familiar dance, hunted and hunter,
trust and suspicion, a duality he thrived in. Only now
his darkness wore the IMF badge. Their mission was insane,
even by IMF standards. Resnikov a rogue Russian technocrawd. It
hijacked a prototype orbitable platform. It wasn't just a weapon.
It was a prison for stolen biotech that could rewrite
human DNA in real time.
Speaker 1: It was a not a story. It was a prison
for biotohy have biotech in a prison that you put people.
Speaker 3: Ethan's plan infiltrate the launch site in Kazakhstan, stop the launch,
or if they failed, take the fight into space itself. Dexter.
Dexter found himself in the middle of an IMF high
sequence that felt like one of his old rituals, precise, methodical,
and felt.
Speaker 1: How does the kilt room feel like a heist?
Speaker 3: No Grace was in the field running point Paris at
her side with a knife between her teeth, and Ethan's
scaling a fuel tower with nothing but suction gloves. Dexter
he handled it his way.
Speaker 1: One by one.
Speaker 3: He dispatched Resnikov's men, setting traps that looked less like
tactical takedowns and more like his old kill room improvisations.
Speaker 1: I just feel like there's this moment where they're on
a fucking hum vy and ino the back and stuff,
and Dexter just looks over it, gohes hair and he's
like and they all fit the codes on and like
he's just like rock Harve juice and ray to go,
zip ties, wire cords, a silence blade between ribs.
Speaker 3: Dope shadowed him, muttering obscenities every time Dexter got creative.
God damn it, Morgan, you don't hang a guy outside
down from a catwalk midop Doake, sparked Dexter, calmly texture.
Speaker 1: Just performing all these Zerio killer dream kills. Don't forget
now He's now killed Laguera and Batista. Now since this
happened too, so he watching sick do his art.
Speaker 3: Dexter replied it was efficient and satisfying. Resnakov escaped, boarding
the rocket against every order, Ethan, Dexter and Doakes followed.
H The rocket launched, with Ethan clinging to its hall,
Dexter inside, disguised as a technician, and Doaks screaming and
calms about how this was suicide. As the G forces
pressed him into the wall, Dexter marveled at the absurdity
of it. My dark passenger never imagined space travel, he thought,
prepare me for this. Once in orbit, chaos unfolded. Zero
G gunfights erupted as Resnikov's men floated through the corridors.
Ethan was a blur of precision strikes, Dokes barked orders
over colms, and Dexter improvised a surgical coldness, injecting one
guard with a syringe of liquid nitrogen, shattering his helmet
visor in silence.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, that sounds like a fucking cold battle. Pass
right there. Dexter, with the liquid nitrogen sywind.
Speaker 3: Ethan finally cornered Resnikov in the control hub, but Resnikov
had armed the weapon. The platform began tilting its canon
toward Earth. They needed a manual override, but the panel
was outside on the wholl of the station. Ethan strapped
into a tether, prepared to make the spacewalk, and Dexter
intercepted him. Let me, Dexter say, calmly. Ethan narrowed his eyes.
You're not trained for eva, Dexter smirked. Neither was I
for killing my first victim. Adaptability is my gift. He was.
Speaker 1: He was trained. Harry trained him for years. What the
fuck does that he mean? And again, just like this
first movie, why is Ethan hunt like the third character
in this movie? They talked more about Dexter and Doakes.
I guess yeah, Michael, Sorry Tom, Michael. See I was
very hard. Now have you seen those paramount numbers?
Speaker 3: But against every protest from Dokes, Dexter launched himself into
the void. The Earth spun beneath him in dizzying beauty,
the sun searing his visor. Using sheer will, Dexter clamped
onto the override hatch and performed one of the most
insane stunts in IMF history, manually redirecting the orbitable cannon
while tethered by a single failing line Resnakop tried to
stop him, ejecting a wave of debris into space. Dexter
used a corpse as a human shield, then slashed through
the russians tether with a scalpel. The villain spun off
into the black scalpel. The world is on the line.
Speaker 1: They're in space. But actually, let me get my tool.
Speaker 3: Oh so he slices.
Speaker 1: He slices his.
Speaker 3: Tether the villa and spun onto the black abyss, screaming
until silence claimed him.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: The station broke apart as Ethan and Paris secured escape pods.
Doakes cursed the entire way, yelling at Dexter's as the calms, motherfucker,
you're gonna so curt Dexter over made the impossible choice.
But the pods disabled, he sees the flight controls of
the orbital platform itself, turning the burning wreck into a
makeshift re entry capsule. Ethan strapped him beside him, stunned.
Speaker 1: He can't fly this, Ethan said, is shocked. Dexter is
such a good agent. He's eclipsing Ethan hunt.
Speaker 3: Dexter's hands moved with chilling calm. You'd be surprised. I've
always been good at steering things to their inevitable.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, I love all his conversations. He has no
genuine conversations with Ethan. It's all just fucking like like
trailers stingers. Yeah, it's all just like quotes.
Speaker 3: As fire consumed the station, they plunged through the atmosphere,
the hall glowing like a second sun. Doaks screened obscenities,
Ethan clung to the restraints, and Dexter piloted the impossible
to Earth against every law physics. They survived the crash,
landing in the Mahabi Desert.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't love it. I need to say,
when you did the Dexter Predator, AI, I need you
to make one of like Michael Spiels, Dexter in the
cockpit of a fucking like astronaut like plane or whatnot,
like it's a space ship. I just I'm trying to
think about, like Michael's c all landing this down.
Speaker 3: But I'll send one into the discord. Later in the aftermath,
the IMF celebrated another improbable success, but within the agency
doubts swirled. Dexter Morgan once the bay, ever Butcher had
become an IMF asset one too dangerous to control, yet
too effective to lose. Doakes refused to let his guard down,
following Dexter everywhere, calling him out at every opportunity. Ethan, however,
began to see the utility in Dexter's presence, even if
it not at his morality. Why him, Dokes barked one
night Ethan's side, because he does what we can't. He
goes where even I won't. Doaks scowled one day, Morgan's
gonna cut the wrong throat. Dexter only smiled, his dark
passenger humming with anticipation. In the dimly lit prison cell,
a man sat quietly, his eyes focused, his mind sharp
as ever. Joe Goldberg locked away after the bloody followed.
Speaker 2: Of his options. Did you ask the way I asked
to do?
Speaker 3: Something scribbled in a journal he wrote, not just about
love or betrayal, but about predators and prey hunters and rivals.
The cell door buzzed open, and Joe looked up, smirking.
You found me, Dexter. Morgan stepped into the light, his
expression calm, almost curious. Behind him, Ethan Hunt lingered in
the shadow's face, unreadable. Joe tilted his head and here
I thought I was the only one who understood the
ord of survival. Dexter's lips curved into the faintest smile.
You're not the only one with a passenger. Before another
word was spoken, the alarms blared and the prison descended
into chaos and orchestrated escape. Smoke filled the cory doors,
and by the time it cleared, Joe Goldberg was gone.
Speaker 1: Dexter Ethan recruiting this like woman killer and abuser.
Speaker 3: Dexter stood at the threshold of Joe's empty cell a
flicker of irritation. Irritation breaking is calm Ethan stepped aside.
I'm watching the void Joe had left behind. This isn't over,
Ethan said firmly. Dexter's eyes darkened. No, it's only the beginning.
So here's the post credit scene.
Speaker 1: I would love a scene with doaks and Joe Goldberg though,
that'd be great.
Speaker 3: The screen is black at first, with the faint sound
of dripping water echoing. Then the picture fades in on
the inside of a prison cell block. The fluorescent lights
above flicker buzzing as guards march down the hallway, their
boots striking the concrete floor with mechanical rhythm. They stop
at a reinforced steel door, slide it open. A two
figure step through. One of them is Joe Goldberg, looking thinner, unshaven,
his eyes carrying that unnerving mix of charm and mania.
Shackles bind his wrists, but his head tilts with curiosity
as he glances at the second man standing in the shadows.
The guards exchange an uncertain look Warden's orders, one of
the mutters. The figure steps forward into the light, James Doakes.
He's older, now harder, his stare burning.
Speaker 1: Hey, Joe, how would you do the woman? You fucker?
Speaker 3: His stare burning through Joe like a soldier assessing a weapon. Unshacklam,
Doake sparks. The guards hesitate, sir, we don't do it.
That's an order. There's a pause in the metallic click
of the cuffs being undone. Joe rubs his wrists, flexing
his hands, his lips curling into slight grim You're not
what I expected, Joe says, with a casual calm. Shut
the fuck up. Doakes growls, I.
Speaker 1: Actually don't think Joe could handle Doaks. I think you
can crack under the dogs, like yelling. He gets get
the flashbacks up, just like abusive parents and Doaks, which
just destroyed as weall.
Speaker 3: Doakes leans in close. I don't like you, I don't
trust you, but I need you. Your predator and predators
like you. They're useful. Joe smirks, tilting his head. Useful
for what Doakes draw Titans His voice drops into a cold,
venomous rasp to take down another predator, Dexter Morgan. Joe
smile widens his eyes, glinting with intrigue. Dexter, he repeats,
savoring the name like a new obsession being born. Doakes
presses a finger hard against Joe's chest. Don't get it, twisted, motherfucker,
you crossed me. I'll slit your throat with a scalpel
before you can say hello, you got it.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why Doakes he like I like the
fit just good. I don't know why Doakes just does
not try to take out Dexter by himself. He's gonna
hire Joe Goldberg out of all people, but which isn't
even a paramount show. They somehow work with Netflix. But
there we go.
Speaker 3: Joe almost done. Joe chuckles softly. Is composure only making
Doake's rage look more utinged. I think this could be
the start of a beautiful partnership. The camera pulls back
as the prison prison hallway darkens, so as a Doas
and Joe walking side by side in the shadows.
Speaker 1: Jesus.
Speaker 3: The sound of Joe's voice lingers and chilling whisper as
the screen cuts to Black Dexter. You you're my next story.
Speaker 1: I would take a season of just him getting obsessed
with Michael C. Hall and stuff. But yeah, well there
you go. Maybe we'll do a third one at some point,
like I said, maybe we'll look.
Speaker 3: It's prompting me. It says it says like want me
to write a third movie idea, So I'll try.
Speaker 1: And say it because yeah, I think I think we've
thought about doing some good because I know we did
a good EPISO long time ago. We did what we did,
the Lord of the Wing's Harry Potter crossover, right, we
did a trilogy of that. Yeah, So, like I said,
I think, uh, I think some shows could be cooking
in the future. But we will be back, not Taylor.
So next week's gonna be you know, so We've got
to your thoughts on another time. But it's gonna be
some you know, some tough waters for me and Kirkling travel,
but finale Dexter Resurrection next week, we'll be there and
it won't be boring.
Speaker 2: Bye bye,