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Speaker 1: five Catsey Morning Show. Former president of the Fraternal Order
Speaker 1: Police Chapter sixty nine, that's the Cincinni Police Department. Welcome back,
Speaker 1: Dan hills Man. It's great to hear from you today.
Speaker 3: Oh Brian, thank you so much for the warm welcome.
Speaker 3: How's your health He's doing all right, doing great, yep.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that. And thanks to everybody who commented on my
Speaker 3: Facebook page the other day. Such nice people. I was
Speaker 3: just telling people to, you know, get rid of sugar
Speaker 3: in their diet because I've gone down that road and
Speaker 3: I feel so much better, and folks just really wishing
Speaker 3: me well with the cancer, and cancer sucks, and everything's
Speaker 3: going fine. So I consider myself a blessed man. I
Speaker 3: certainly appreciate asking about that. How is post FOP president
Speaker 3: life and your post a police officer position life going
Speaker 3: for you?
Speaker 4: Dan, I'm not too post on any of it because
Speaker 4: frontline advisors or me and some attorneys and we represent
Speaker 4: a number of law enforcement groups and so very busy.
Speaker 4: And then I pull my commission with a small village
Speaker 4: that I leave out of my political life. So I
Speaker 4: don't name it, but I work a lot of what
Speaker 4: we call duty details in the police world. Matter of fact,
Speaker 4: I was working off duty detail when all this stuff happened,
Speaker 4: and even now I'm listening to it all.
Speaker 2: Well, but that's why you're here.
Speaker 4: I'm a busy guy.
Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear.
Speaker 1: And you're applying the skills that you learned for all
Speaker 1: the years as a police officer, and you continue that
Speaker 1: after serving your community. So is this is this a
Speaker 1: spleen event we're ready for today? Dan Hills?
Speaker 5: Regarding the Nazis, can you imagine well, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 5: the Nazis are like a no brainer. And you know
Speaker 5: the one the one thing is they kind of all
Speaker 5: bring us together because everybody hates the Nazis.
Speaker 4: Right, everybody laughs at the Nazis. Everybody thinks the Nazis,
Speaker 4: uh not things they know the Nazis are ridiculous. So
Speaker 4: exactly at a little something that they bring to Americas.
Speaker 4: They bring com unity because right, left, Republican Democrat, it
Speaker 4: doesn't matter. But I'll say, what what and the hell
Speaker 4: is wrong with these people?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: How about that a positive spin that the Nazis benefits
Speaker 1: society because they bring us together in our uniform disdain.
Speaker 4: Exactly. But you know, here is this, now try to
Speaker 4: step into shoes of the even al police, the Hampton
Speaker 4: County Sheriffs that we're up there. I mean, what a scene.
Speaker 4: I've seen the pictures the uh these these clowns will
Speaker 4: just call clowns instead of stuff that will would would
Speaker 4: violet your feet. Uh. These clowns they had they had
Speaker 4: long guns. And and so then there was the angry
Speaker 4: group apparently from Lincoln Heights that was coming at them.
Speaker 4: This was a handful, a handful and a half, and uh,
Speaker 4: everything I've read from what even how Chief said, Uh,
Speaker 4: it's just that the everybody did a tremendous job. And
Speaker 4: look what you know what they're trying to do, Brian.
Speaker 4: And we had all sorts of people try to use
Speaker 4: open carry and stuff to suck us in over the
Speaker 4: years as people weren't as used to that, they were
Speaker 4: trying to suck the police into making a mistake, and
Speaker 4: they didn't. The cops didn't make a mistake. And so
Speaker 4: my thing event at first, of course, is about the
Speaker 4: the the ongoing idocy of of of Nazis and and
Speaker 4: these these these weird group of people that I don't
Speaker 4: know where they recruit, where they get idiots like this from.
Speaker 4: But the other seven is is is about our counting
Speaker 4: commissioners who I don't think they know anything about police works.
Speaker 4: They don't know anything about the law because also they're
Speaker 4: shooting off their mouths saying well, why did they take
Speaker 4: any legal action? Why didn't they? I think Alicia Reeve said,
Speaker 4: why didn't they issue any tickets? Yeah, well there weren't
Speaker 4: any tickets to issue, there weren't any laws broken. And
Speaker 4: then Stephanie Dumas start talking about even they'll never being
Speaker 4: very neighborly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, quote as far as as far as even though
Speaker 1: they've never been good neighbors to Lincoln Heights, this was
Speaker 1: there one opportunity to come last night and speak and
Speaker 1: say we respect you and we care about you. They
Speaker 1: had a meeting about this. She goes, I also know
Speaker 1: this is kind of like a veiled threat.
Speaker 2: Dan quote.
Speaker 1: I also know we give lots of money to Evendale.
Speaker 1: They need to be more responsible, not only the Lincoln
Speaker 1: Heights but to us and let us know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Now read into that what you might, but that sounds
Speaker 1: like a veiled threat when it comes to funding and
Speaker 1: maybe the distribution of county revenue.
Speaker 4: Well, Brian, you hear all that air coming out of
Speaker 4: my balloon. Yet was so hopeful at the beginning of
Speaker 4: a phone call talking about us all coming together. Well,
Speaker 4: hold on, you know we leave it to leave it
Speaker 4: to Stephanie Dumas to bring in and us and them,
Speaker 4: and you know it's it's we. We all have disdain.
Speaker 4: I don't care about your color or your you know,
Speaker 4: your religion, your political part of it. We all have
Speaker 4: disdain for the type of hate that is that is you.
Speaker 2: Know, yes, but out there, but the police by by
Speaker 2: the Nazis.
Speaker 1: But the fundamental point is the police have to abide
Speaker 1: by the constitution in the United States of America. In
Speaker 1: spite of the fact that we all disagree with the message,
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm out of time. I want to bring
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Speaker 1: the Friday Eve Frian Thomas with former FOP president Dan
Speaker 1: Hills on this ridiculous event that occurred up an Evendale
Speaker 1: on the bridge with the alleged neo Nazis. I know
Speaker 1: many people do not believe they were actually Nazis. In fact,
Speaker 1: they may have been anti five people dressed completely head
Speaker 1: to toe covered. Just to well bring up issues like
Speaker 1: this and stir the pot. But Dan Hills standing on
Speaker 1: a sidewalk with an offensive flag is protected behavior under
Speaker 1: the United States and Ohio state constitutions, is it not?
Speaker 4: It is? And again, you know that's part of what
Speaker 4: the freedom of speech is is that freedom speech means
Speaker 4: that we sometimes have to see messages of stuff we
Speaker 4: totally disagree with and don't like. I mean, if you
Speaker 4: s get to be like, well, you see great Britain
Speaker 4: going through now where any speech that is found offensive
Speaker 4: in somebody's eyes can get you locked up and you
Speaker 4: no longer hey a freedom of speech? Uh, Brian, you know,
Speaker 4: doing a little pro bono and my little media relations
Speaker 4: for even Dale Police because I think so great, you know,
Speaker 4: fondly of how they they've they've got through all this.
Speaker 4: They've done an excellent job. I see all the statements
Speaker 4: from the chief. I think he's done an excellent job.
Speaker 4: But there's more air coming out of my balloon because
Speaker 4: there was a social media thing and we do represent
Speaker 4: aim toon county corrections officers and there's a rookie, brand
Speaker 4: new officer just came a corrections deputy just came out
Speaker 4: of the academy and somebody on social media had a
Speaker 4: picture of him and a picture of one of those
Speaker 4: Nazis and said that they you know, they did the
Speaker 4: compare something and it's the one and the same person.
Speaker 4: And this thing has gone viral yesterday maybe the day before,
Speaker 4: and it's and it's all a lie. The whole thing's
Speaker 4: a lie. It's already been debunked. As matter of fact.
Speaker 4: He was he was at work when the Nazis were
Speaker 4: up there doing their their silliness. And this thing has
Speaker 4: gone all over the place. So if you happen to
Speaker 4: see it, that's a little little little message. Uh as uh.
Speaker 4: We we might have to do even more to represent
Speaker 4: this young man. But first thing is putting out the message.
Speaker 4: If you see this silliness, uh say say no, please
Speaker 4: don't share it. You know, I'm not going to use
Speaker 4: his name. His name's already be in front after too
Speaker 4: much and and and it's it is you know, honestly.
Speaker 2: That may be actionable. I mean, oh no, well.
Speaker 4: You know the front line of attorneys are. Yeah, they're
Speaker 4: they're digging in on it and seeing what they can do.
Speaker 2: I figured they were yeah, good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that that type of that that type of
Speaker 4: docs and can be uh you know, actionable. And and
Speaker 4: imagine the danger it's putting this this young guys just
Speaker 4: starting his career with the corrections, uh, with the Sheriff's office,
Speaker 4: and he's got to be down there. Of course, you know,
Speaker 4: in a in a population that is diverse, the jail
Speaker 4: population is divers You're putting them into incredible danger. Bye
Speaker 4: bye by shooting off your mouth. Do do you have
Speaker 4: nothing else to do but you know, sit around in
Speaker 4: your basement and make make stuff up. So just just
Speaker 4: st them for everybody out there. If you see this
Speaker 4: thing being being tossed around, it's it's it's all silliness
Speaker 4: and uh and and just flat out a lie. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but you I think you were going to ask him
Speaker 4: before I want to find out. I think you were
Speaker 4: you were going to ask another question maybe about what
Speaker 4: the the commissioners are saying.
Speaker 1: Well, it was less about the commissioners because clearly they
Speaker 1: have a profound ignorance of the law and the constitution
Speaker 1: based upon the arguments that somebody should have been ticketed
Speaker 1: or cited or arrested. Now pivoting over what might have
Speaker 1: been actionable. For example, had these Nazis walked out into
Speaker 1: the street and stopped traffic from moving, would that have
Speaker 1: been actionable and result in a potential violation of Ohio law.
Speaker 4: Certainly, or you know even the even they municipal code.
Speaker 4: I think there there's borderlines of certain things. Uh, you know,
Speaker 4: the we can carry openly just like we can carry
Speaker 4: concealing in Ohio. So if you walk around with a
Speaker 4: holstered gun, and this is one of the one of
Speaker 4: the things that somebody was always trying to bait us
Speaker 4: up off of Raine Avenue, Hawaiian Mohammed Terras. They'd walk
Speaker 4: around with with the holstered gun. And we we the
Speaker 4: since I Police Department knew that this person was just
Speaker 4: making us and so we we were always able to
Speaker 4: avoid confrontation. But when you walk around with that long gun,
Speaker 4: and if that long gun starts to point in different
Speaker 4: directions and stuff, you know, you're you're you're you're knocking
Speaker 4: on the door of inducing panic. It's not that they
Speaker 4: didn't want to, you know, take any legal action. It's
Speaker 4: legal action was necessary. But again you also are dealing
Speaker 4: with the a whole handful of things. As the Lincoln
Speaker 4: Heights residence came out, I have heard some reports. I
Speaker 4: didn't read it. I don't know any of it confirmed.
Speaker 4: I didn't read it that came from a law force
Speaker 4: and sources directly. But I think some of them were armed.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I saw some gub on some of them,
Speaker 4: and so, uh, you know, this is this is life
Speaker 4: and death, and this is this is something you try
Speaker 4: your best, get your your your first thing do you
Speaker 4: want to do even before you enforce the law is
Speaker 4: prevent loss of life? Prevent does I ask? Can you
Speaker 4: imagine if that would have turned into some sort of shootout?
Speaker 2: Orth So exactly yes, exactly, So again.
Speaker 4: I go on and on about Uh, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: just proud to be associated with all the police across
Speaker 4: this country that do that type of work. But right
Speaker 4: here locally that we got a fine little police department
Speaker 4: like even now that did such a tremendous job. And
Speaker 4: I take pleasure and you know, using my social media
Speaker 4: and my voice when I can on on radio or
Speaker 4: wherever to say to say that they did a great job.
Speaker 4: It should be commended, you know, so might drop off
Speaker 4: some donuts or something there say thank instead of instead
Speaker 4: of instead of listening to this this insane rhetoric from
Speaker 4: these commissioners, and it leaves me kind of say it
Speaker 4: as I sit up in the comforts of my Warren
Speaker 4: County home. It makes me feel kind of sad about
Speaker 4: you know, the state of affairs and hand County.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, rub it in. My wife who after
Speaker 1: the election said let's move out of Hamilton County. Appreciate that,
Speaker 1: Dan Hills. Anyway, I appreciate your defense of the police.
Speaker 4: Stay somewhere for Valentine Day. Just take her somewhere for b.
Speaker 1: Take her to this, take her to twenty two to three,
Speaker 1: get out on the range. Anyway, Dan Hills, I appreciate
Speaker 1: your thoughts and comments and your profound support for the police.
Speaker 1: They did do a good job. They did uphold the law,
Speaker 1: and they didn't violate civil rights by rounding up Nazis
Speaker 1: and putting them away, because they are entitled to do
Speaker 1: what they did. And we do have open carrying the
Speaker 1: state of Ohio, and I'll be the first person to
Speaker 1: say I don't like it. I'm not saying it should
Speaker 1: be outlawed. I just am not a fan of my
Speaker 1: fellow Second Amendment supporters walking around with open firearms because
Speaker 1: so many people are nervous nelly's about even seeing a firearm,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to stir that pot. Carry it concealed,
Speaker 1: you know, defend yourself, exercise your Second Amendment rights, but
Speaker 1: don't agitate the week in society. It's just the wrong
Speaker 1: thing to do. Dan Hills, Thank you, brother. Keep up
Speaker 1: the great work. We'll have you on again real soon,
Speaker 1: I'm sure.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you for your support of police and
Speaker 4: continued good help. Sir.
Speaker 1: Anytime, brother, I'm happy to do it. Six forty seven
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