Speaker 1: Welcome to a new week of the Morning show here
Speaker 1: at SDH. John here you there, thanks for dropping by.
Speaker 1: And it's a standard Monday. Yes, it's a Columbus day
Speaker 1: for some and for state offices, although it was kind
Speaker 1: of weird. And I don't know if it's the same
Speaker 1: where you are, but this is probably going to be
Speaker 1: somewhat opening kickoffish. But garbage is being picked up today,
Speaker 1: and I was trying to figure it out, you know,
Speaker 1: here at Office HD Morning, Alex, if it was going
Speaker 1: to happen or not, considering it's a state holiday here
Speaker 1: in the State of Georgia and some folks are working,
Speaker 1: some folks aren't. Things get pushed back, things don't get
Speaker 1: pushed back. You kind of forget you need to check
Speaker 1: if things need to be pushed back, that kind of
Speaker 1: a thing. And so, as it turns out, after checking
Speaker 1: out last night, very late last night, that there was
Speaker 1: going to be garbage pickup today, or at least, let's
Speaker 1: put it this way on the website that is attached
Speaker 1: to Office HD's locality, there was no for a double negative.
Speaker 1: There was no negative connotation about the garbage pickup. So
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, you're running around the house.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you got to rush to get everything
Speaker 1: in the curb. Everything's on the curb, and so nothing's
Speaker 1: happened yet. So but no, I was going by what
Speaker 1: the what the website said, and sure enough, I'm guessing
Speaker 1: that there's going to be some kind of garbage pickup today.
Speaker 1: But happy Columbus Day, happy and happy banking holiday. And
Speaker 1: reminder that this is also a recognition of indigenous persons.
Speaker 1: So you know how me specifically and how how I
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Speaker 1: the in the North America anyway, So happy Monday, Happy,
Speaker 1: happy Columbus Day, happy banking holiday, and uh, may we
Speaker 1: always remember those that were here long before we were.
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Speaker 1: it Land United in the Purple teams. This is getting
Speaker 1: into the final, the final final, the final regular season
Speaker 1: weekend of Major League Soccer, So we'll get we won't
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Speaker 1: we'll kind of lean into that a little bit when
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Speaker 1: Anything else on Abe's mind, then we'll get you through
Speaker 1: the news of the morning, and there is a couple
Speaker 1: of things, specifically AFCON related that you know, some folks
Speaker 1: go to certain lengths to try to win competitions and
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Speaker 1: and we'll get into the other news of the morning.
Speaker 1: At ten o'clock, Bart Keeler is going to join us
Speaker 1: from the soccer for USPOD. We're going to talk about
Speaker 1: the men's national team and what happened with the beginning
Speaker 1: of the reship Putchattino era, and then after that it's
Speaker 1: going to be kind of an elongated reffing down here.
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is this there is
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Speaker 1: the time being. So there's something going on in the
Speaker 1: college game and with refereeing, and so technically this will
Speaker 1: be an extension of reffing down here at ten thirty,
Speaker 1: specifically focusing on the college game. And there was an
Speaker 1: incident this weekend that Jason was front and center to
Speaker 1: that we're going to discuss and it leads itself to
Speaker 1: a larger discussion about warning signs and stuff that needs
Speaker 1: to be really adjusted in the college game. So we're
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Speaker 1: So it's going to be Abe News of the Morning,
Speaker 1: get you through all of that. Bard at ten extended
Speaker 1: reffing down here at ten thirty talking about the college
Speaker 1: game and just kind of if it's something that you
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Speaker 1: it's that time we got to Ricky Henderson. Eight gardeners here.
Speaker 2: What is up?
Speaker 1: You got the you got the high Leo Franco kind
Speaker 1: of batting stance going here? You ready to go? Man?
Speaker 3: I I used to switch batting stances up year by year.
Speaker 3: Uh just I mean sometimes I would go Ryan Klesco
Speaker 3: and I'd be wide open. Sometimes I'd close it up
Speaker 3: a little more. I kind of was a little bit
Speaker 3: like Ricky Henderson. I didn't really use my power a
Speaker 3: ton in in Little league and youth ball. But I
Speaker 3: mean just know that if I was on first, I
Speaker 3: may as well have been on third, like I was going.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was taken second, and as soon as
Speaker 3: you overthrow the bag, I'm taking third.
Speaker 4: So I was aggressive on the basis.
Speaker 1: M color me shocked. Nothing like thathing like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was the same way I was, you know,
Speaker 1: lefty batter, and so I would be like I was
Speaker 1: the third, fourth or fifth in the order, and so
Speaker 1: I was the I was the kid that actually had
Speaker 1: the foresight. Because I don't know if this ever happened
Speaker 1: to you, but this is very opening kickoff you by
Speaker 1: the way. I don't know if when you were in
Speaker 1: Little League, there was always that team that had the
Speaker 1: overage kids and they like paid the league off so
Speaker 1: they could have the overage kids so they could win
Speaker 1: the league. And so this was like probably you know, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
Speaker 1: you always had that team that was paying off the league,
Speaker 1: and then you'd have like the thirteen fourteen, fifteen year
Speaker 1: old kids that were playing in the U twelve and
Speaker 1: they tried to win the league. So I was the
Speaker 1: kid that would go to the super fast batting cage
Speaker 1: knowing that that team was coming up and I was
Speaker 1: going to have a fifteen year old throwing at me,
Speaker 1: and I would be the only guy on my team
Speaker 1: to get a hit or much less contact with the
Speaker 1: ball because I'm the super fast batting cage is in preparation.
Speaker 1: That's how hard tore I was. When I was in
Speaker 1: middle school getting ready to play baseball.
Speaker 3: I spent the whole season of Little League just bunting.
Speaker 3: What like, like just bunting, what like?
Speaker 4: Just bunting?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard, I'd like, what right.
Speaker 3: Down, just boo, right down the third base line. I'd
Speaker 3: reach every time. I was incredibly fast. They would never
Speaker 3: throw me out. I think I batted like nine to
Speaker 3: ninety three that year.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And like I said, like, if I'm on first, I'm
Speaker 3: I'm I may as well be on third. And so
Speaker 3: I just I would just take first base on a
Speaker 3: perfect bunt. I mean I could put it right between
Speaker 3: the grass and the foul line. I mean, I was,
Speaker 3: I was, I put it right on the path, and uh,
Speaker 3: even when the third baseman knew it was coming.
Speaker 4: Just too good, man, It's too good.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: So the speed of the pitcher never really was a
Speaker 3: problem because I was just bunting one year.
Speaker 4: So it's like a.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's that is a revelation. I mean I was
Speaker 1: I was a guy that would swing and I'd probably
Speaker 1: hit like three ninety seven or something. I was never
Speaker 1: a bunter, but I would always be the first guy
Speaker 1: to piss folks off. Man, always button and bat in
Speaker 1: nine ninety three, I only did.
Speaker 4: It one year.
Speaker 3: I only did it one year. The next year, I
Speaker 3: let off the first game with like an over the
Speaker 3: fence home run, and then everyone's like, why the fuck
Speaker 3: were you butting last year?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Man, I got on base, man, what do you want
Speaker 4: from me? I got on base?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Oh that's fantastic. All right, so opening kickoff?
Speaker 1: Other question, how are you when it comes to Mondays?
Speaker 1: Because this morning, I mean I went to bed after
Speaker 1: watching that hyper painful American football game last night where
Speaker 1: I finally got to see what I need in my
Speaker 1: fantasy game tonight to try to get a win, and
Speaker 1: then everything was fine. Watched the wrap up show, but
Speaker 1: then my body is like up and running at like
Speaker 1: five five thirty just for no good reason. It's like
Speaker 1: it's up at like one thirty, three thirty and five
Speaker 1: thirty and it's ready to go on a Monday. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how much sleep you do or don't. Get
Speaker 1: bodies just like, yeah, all right, time to go.
Speaker 4: It kind of depends on the day.
Speaker 3: Now, yesterday I had a headache all day from a
Speaker 3: lack of sleep over the weekend. So like Sunday night,
Speaker 3: last night, I went to bed pretty early. I took
Speaker 3: some bio emblems sleeping or whoever, whatever thing I got
Speaker 3: there that's got melotonin and magnesium and all sorts of
Speaker 3: other nonsense. So I popped one of those and I
Speaker 3: went to bed. I was asleep by like nine p thirty.
Speaker 3: I pretty much slept all the way through till till
Speaker 3: seven am. Wow, And then I kind of just laid
Speaker 3: there for ten minutes till my alarm went off.
Speaker 4: But normally I'm.
Speaker 3: I'm okay because and I didn't do it this morning
Speaker 3: because I know I'm I'm going out for a run
Speaker 3: later today. But normally, like the first thing I do
Speaker 3: in the morning is like put the harness on Chipper
Speaker 3: the pup, and go for a run. So like, even
Speaker 3: if I kind of wake up struggling a little bit,
Speaker 3: like three miles kind of gets your body pumping, especially
Speaker 3: now as we get to hey at seven am and
Speaker 3: it's still kind of cold outside, like that'll that'll wake
Speaker 3: you up. So I'm pretty good in the mornings, I'm I'm.
Speaker 3: My issue was like the midday, like I'm the rare
Speaker 3: like early bird and night owl. Wow that like that
Speaker 3: like chunk of time between like two thirty and like
Speaker 3: six thirty. Though, that's the toughest part of the day
Speaker 3: for me because the sports haven't really started on TV.
Speaker 4: Yet.
Speaker 3: But uh, you know, if I'm into a show, maybe
Speaker 3: that's that's why I spend that time. But yeah, that's
Speaker 3: what I get in trouble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for me, it's usually about four thirty
Speaker 1: or five o'clock when I start to kind of fade
Speaker 1: and I've got to put either push through it or
Speaker 1: just sit there and not do anything because I know
Speaker 1: that my productivity would go in the dumper. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm comparing notes on Mondays for everybody in the twitch
Speaker 1: pitch and ABE and everybody that comes by this morning.
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Speaker 1: it is the last week of the regular season in
Speaker 1: Major League Soccer, and it's math it's math down here basically,
Speaker 1: as we get closer to Friday and Saturday where Atlanta
Speaker 1: United goes to Middle Florida takes on the Purple Team,
Speaker 1: and there's got to be some work there that's got
Speaker 1: to get done. There's some math that's got to get
Speaker 1: figured out. If Atlanta United's going to get into be
Speaker 1: the nine and to go on the road, they could
Speaker 1: be the aid if things fall a certain way. Where
Speaker 1: are you and the conversations that you've had outside of
Speaker 1: ninety two nine, just casual and otherwise on social media,
Speaker 1: where are you when it comes to this weekend? Where
Speaker 1: are those that you interact with coming into this weekend
Speaker 1: facing the Purple team in the last week of the
Speaker 1: regular season.
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I'm more worried about Atlanta United getting
Speaker 3: the own result that's necessary than the other teams. Like
Speaker 3: I think if Atlani United can get to three points
Speaker 3: they need, it will fall to them like they got.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously, it's it was huge that you're playing
Speaker 3: for two spots and not one spot, and so to me,
Speaker 3: it's more about Lanti United and taking care of their
Speaker 3: own business. And look last week they did take care
Speaker 3: of their own business. But there have been what three
Speaker 3: or four games before that where they had an opportunity
Speaker 3: to put themselves in better position by handling what was
Speaker 3: in front of them, not scoreboard watching, and they didn't
Speaker 3: do it. Now they looked out because for three straight
Speaker 3: weeks now they've had results for large most part go
Speaker 3: in their favor. There's been a result here or there
Speaker 3: that made it slightly different, but you know, four or
Speaker 3: five results that same weekend that kind of played in
Speaker 3: their advantage. So it's been more about themselves and finding
Speaker 3: the right opportunity to get points, and they've kind of
Speaker 3: kicked the can down the road. I know, I had
Speaker 3: called it point procrastination just kind of stayed alive in
Speaker 3: terms of their playoff hunt. But it's been more about
Speaker 3: them not finding their own points than about other teams,
Speaker 3: you know, hurting them in the playoff free So I
Speaker 3: feel pretty good about the other games that we're keeping
Speaker 3: attention to, but to me, it's about ORLANDI United, Like
Speaker 3: they've got to find a way to get their three points,
Speaker 3: and at that point if they gave in, great, If
Speaker 3: they don't get in, because the other results don't fall away,
Speaker 3: you can't look at the other teams and what happened.
Speaker 3: You had so many opportunities in this last month of
Speaker 3: you know, mid September into now here mid in late October.
Speaker 3: You had opportunities to get points and for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: couldn't do it. So nobody else to blame but yourselves.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of the microcosm going into this final game.
Speaker 3: You've got to do it yourselves. You know, it's kind
Speaker 3: of you know, forget you, Joe bu I'll do it myself.
Speaker 3: It's kind of it's kind of along those lines, like
Speaker 3: it's it's time to just, you know, face the facts,
Speaker 3: look in the mirror, and go find three points.
Speaker 4: And you know, if.
Speaker 3: The one thing that you were looking at, potentially result wise,
Speaker 3: was that there was an opportunity that Orlando City would
Speaker 3: not have anything to play for Nashville, who was eliminated,
Speaker 3: couldn't help you out and take points from NYCFC, and
Speaker 3: so Orlando City they've got to fight for their seating
Speaker 3: and their positioning in the standings, and so they're gonna
Speaker 3: be going after it too, and to an extent that
Speaker 3: might help you, right, It might open some things up
Speaker 3: that maybe wouldn't have been open. But obviously there's the
Speaker 3: other side that they're looking to score and potentially could
Speaker 3: threaten you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this could be one where since both teams
Speaker 1: are chasing after something, you could have it where the
Speaker 1: governor has been pulled out of the golf cart and
Speaker 1: you're gonna end up with ninety minutes of like you know,
Speaker 1: looking at the US Open and one of these kind
Speaker 1: of things with Folly's back and forth. The way things
Speaker 1: stand out, everybody's up to thirty three matches. We had
Speaker 1: the two matches this past weekend, the makeups, and in
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference, Columbus pretty much just wiped the floor
Speaker 1: with New England four nil the final there and Matan
Speaker 1: had a hat trick. Jason has been very, very high
Speaker 1: on Alexandra Maton. So right now, Miami's locked into the one,
Speaker 1: Columbus is locked into the two, Cincinnati's locked into the three.
Speaker 1: So those three teams they can just kind of sit
Speaker 1: there and do whatever the heck they want when it
Speaker 1: comes to the last game with the regular season, Miami
Speaker 1: is chasing after a points record, so their lineup might
Speaker 1: be a little different than say Columbus or Cincinnati coming
Speaker 1: up this weekend. Orlando. As you say, right now, they
Speaker 1: are in the last home advantage spot. They are right
Speaker 1: now two points clear in the four. But once again
Speaker 1: NYC is going to be breathing down their neck because
Speaker 1: they're at fifty. That's the situation that is staring at Orlando.
Speaker 1: But then you end up with that trickle down. NYC's
Speaker 1: at fifty, Charlotte's at forty eight, Red Bulls at forty seven.
Speaker 1: So Red Bulls with a win and some help, could
Speaker 1: get to to you know, they could get to six
Speaker 1: because they would lose the tiebreaker with NYC because of
Speaker 1: straight wins fourteen to twelve. At that point, Charlotte could
Speaker 1: get up to five. You know, that math is there
Speaker 1: for that DC and Montreal and Toronto who is out
Speaker 1: because they're done. Philly's at thirty seven, Atlanta's at thirty seven, DC,
Speaker 1: Montreal at forty four, teams two spots, one win, separating
Speaker 1: a boatload of folks. Everybody else is out the door,
Speaker 1: and that's the Eastern Conference. It will be interesting watching.
Speaker 1: But I think to your point, this could be a
Speaker 1: game where, you know, if Orlando plays for a point,
Speaker 1: then they could be boring everybody to tears. But there's
Speaker 1: a danger in playing for just a point, because then
Speaker 1: that point can turn into zero points just as quickly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you kind of lost me pretty early on
Speaker 3: in running through that, which.
Speaker 4: Is and that's a good thing and a bad thing.
Speaker 3: And I don't mean to disrespectfully, but like that's why
Speaker 3: I'm just focused on this game. And like, obviously, if
Speaker 3: you're a player, if you're Rob Valentino, you can't even
Speaker 3: try and look at the permutations and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: You just got to deal with yourselves. But you're right.
Speaker 3: The other thing about Orlando City in this one is
Speaker 3: it also might be like a modified push for points, right,
Speaker 3: Like they may try and be like, all right, let's
Speaker 3: see what we can get in the first forty five,
Speaker 3: maybe sixty, but we do have this other season that
Speaker 3: we need to approach with the right mindset. Maybe we
Speaker 3: pull back. And so it also might be a situation
Speaker 3: where if you can either have a lead into the
Speaker 3: sixtieth or seventieth minute, maybe even be in position for
Speaker 3: one point, that Orlando City kind of pulls off. And
Speaker 3: they also will be schoolboard watching and seeing what the
Speaker 3: teams around them will doing. So I don't think Atlanta
Speaker 3: United can get caught scoreboard watching and seeing how they
Speaker 3: need to or don't need to change their style of play.
Speaker 4: Orlando City will, though.
Speaker 3: And I think there is a situation where they they
Speaker 3: might kind of step off the gas the back third
Speaker 3: of this match, and if you're in the right position
Speaker 3: situation for Atlanta United, it may not be to your
Speaker 3: advantage the first forty five minutes, the first sixty minutes
Speaker 3: with Orlando pushing, but they might pull off. And so
Speaker 3: there's also an opportunity that you could play that game
Speaker 3: right where you play them even and then as they
Speaker 3: dial it down and prepare themselves for their own playoff race,
Speaker 3: maybe you could take advantage in the last twenty thirty minutes.
Speaker 3: So it's going to be very interesting from that perspective
Speaker 3: to see how Orlando City does choose to manage this match.
Speaker 3: There's also I mean, look, they've got to be incredibly
Speaker 3: careful with any soft tissue, muscle injuries, stuff like that,
Speaker 3: So calf, groin, hamstring, quad, anything minor that maybe you
Speaker 3: would see guys try and fight through that. Maybe you
Speaker 3: would risk something that Atlanta United will have to do,
Speaker 3: risk those sorts of injuries to get the max points.
Speaker 3: Orlando City would would certainly play a little bit more
Speaker 3: careful there. They'd certainly rather give up whatever seeding they
Speaker 3: have than to exacerbate any injuries ahead of the playoffs.
Speaker 3: So there are certainly some benefits of this situation, but
Speaker 3: again it's just about Atlanta United finding the opportunities. And
Speaker 3: you say, this is what maybe is exciting. But at
Speaker 3: the same time, John, we haven't seen anything carry over
Speaker 3: game to game or any sort of momentum or discussion
Speaker 3: like that. But Atlanta United came out last time with
Speaker 3: energy right from the start, and they looked really good
Speaker 3: in the first half. They did not score in the
Speaker 3: first half, but they looked really good. And you obviously
Speaker 3: need to get out on the front foot and look
Speaker 3: aggressive early, look like you're into the game a little bit.
Speaker 3: Don't play yourselves into it, like be into it when
Speaker 3: the first whistle goes. I thought they did that very
Speaker 3: well last week. It showed up in the stats and
Speaker 3: eventually in the second half showed up on the scoreboard
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: So then what are you looking at just from a
Speaker 1: lineup perspective? I guess where are your concerns and or
Speaker 1: questions when it comes to the starting eleven, And how
Speaker 1: would you if we're playing football manager, how would you
Speaker 1: line things up.
Speaker 3: Well, obviously, I think despite what Ronald Hernandez did, you
Speaker 3: certainly are bringing Brooks Lennon back into the starting lineup. U.
Speaker 4: I think that's obvious.
Speaker 3: I'm probably keeping most Scara right from the start up
Speaker 3: on that left side, uh toront with Saba and then Uh,
Speaker 3: if Tra is good to go, I would I would
Speaker 3: run him out there as well, and and and continue.
Speaker 3: I know Rios has been very good, but I do
Speaker 3: like the most Scare Tiray dynamic up front. Two guys
Speaker 3: who are very fast. They could both dribble a little bit,
Speaker 3: but but the speed just has to be contained. And
Speaker 3: so that's how I would probably start out there, and
Speaker 3: then you got your regular stuff.
Speaker 4: Uh in the midfield.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess there's maybe a discussion what you're doing.
Speaker 3: I would keep Moyaba on the bench. I think Jay
Speaker 3: Fortune has been outstanding there and you run him with
Speaker 3: with schleish and and Moran Chuck in the midfield and
Speaker 3: and and go about it that way. But there's gonna
Speaker 3: come a time where you have to get reckless in
Speaker 3: this game, and so I think you have to make
Speaker 3: your eleven man lineup set with the idea that you
Speaker 3: might have to make these certain switches at some point
Speaker 3: in the game, And so could you end up seeing
Speaker 3: Tira and Rios combined up top with this or that?
Speaker 3: And where does everyone else play into that? Could you
Speaker 3: eventually go to just three in the back instead of
Speaker 3: the four man back. I mean, there's all sorts of
Speaker 3: considerations Valentino has to think about ahead of time before
Speaker 3: you get desperate in real time, and then those adjustments
Speaker 3: have to be planned as necessary. So it is going
Speaker 3: to be interesting to see who he has, Like, would
Speaker 3: it surprised me if Luke Brennan And I don't even
Speaker 3: know if he's available after his stop with the youth
Speaker 3: national team, if they're if he's going to be bad,
Speaker 3: but it wouldn't surprise me to see him off the
Speaker 3: bench and in a situation where you need a goal late,
Speaker 3: like you just bring Brennan in, you bring Rios in,
Speaker 3: and you just you just try and overload, and to
Speaker 3: the detriment of like Stea Gregorson and Derek Williams, you're like, hey,
Speaker 3: you guys are on your own back there. We're just
Speaker 3: gonna do what we can and put eight in the
Speaker 3: box here. Pretty much the rest of the game, So
Speaker 3: it will be interesting to see both from the starting
Speaker 3: eleven but also from who's available, you know, off the
Speaker 3: bench and kind of those considerations that you have to
Speaker 3: consider ahead of time before and hope you don't actually
Speaker 3: have to face that situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's a there's a there's a key to
Speaker 1: being in the rhythm of the game from the absolute
Speaker 1: beginning and then getting the advantage and then trying to
Speaker 1: sit on it as best you can, but making sure
Speaker 1: that if the game turns chaotic that at least you
Speaker 1: can you can control your version of the chaos and
Speaker 1: hopefully turn the other folks chaos into even more chaos
Speaker 1: with what you can do.
Speaker 3: It always concerns me is the other aspect to that,
Speaker 3: where let's say you do score a first half goal,
Speaker 3: and maybe you are sixty minutes in and you're like,
Speaker 3: all right, let's go a little bit more defensive, let's
Speaker 3: try and hold onto this lead, and and maybe you
Speaker 3: bring in Dax McCarty to try and hold on. Maybe
Speaker 3: you bring in Luis a brom to try and hold on,
Speaker 3: and then you give up a goal, right, and then
Speaker 3: you can see, like that's the one thing that's always
Speaker 3: scared me is making the defensive substitution, and then you
Speaker 3: find yourself with all these defensive guys in the game,
Speaker 3: but now you actually have to go find that goal again.
Speaker 3: That's the one that always concerns me. So look, you're
Speaker 3: gonna get nitpicked. However it works out, if you're Rob
Speaker 3: Valentino and it doesn't play, I would not make defensive
Speaker 3: substitutions if you're holding a lead. I would still, you know,
Speaker 3: play smart, play intelligent, but don't try and short it
Speaker 3: up too early. I'm not saying don't make the moves,
Speaker 3: but don't do it in the sixty fifth minute. Don't
Speaker 3: do it in the seventieth minute. If you want to
Speaker 3: make that move, maybe a little closer to eighty eighty five.
Speaker 4: I think you could play that game.
Speaker 3: But don't give yourself a situation where you've got to
Speaker 3: find a goal with fifteen to twenty twenty five minutes
Speaker 3: left and you don't have the subs available.
Speaker 4: To do it.
Speaker 1: Because what's better than a one goalie to two goalie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll take four or five if they have.
Speaker 1: It right there with you, brother, all right, So broadcast
Speaker 1: plans it's an odd kick at six o'clock. Apparently, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know the broadcast plans yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we're going live as always an hour before
Speaker 3: the game. It's going to be myself. I'll be with
Speaker 3: Joe Patrick on this one. So five o'clock starts the
Speaker 3: five Stripes countdown, and as always, we'll have a full
Speaker 3: reaction to the full time report after the game. Hopefully
Speaker 3: we're talking about who we're matching up with in the
Speaker 3: first round of the playoffs. But you know, if we
Speaker 3: have to discuss, that's it for the season. Here's why,
Speaker 3: here's what happened, and what is this offseason going to
Speaker 3: look like.
Speaker 4: We'll have that.
Speaker 3: Tough discussion as well, but hopefully we're looking towards the
Speaker 3: extension of the Atlanta United season. But yes, early game
Speaker 3: Decision Day. All the Eastern Conference games kicking off at
Speaker 3: six o'clock Eastern, including the one right there at Inter
Speaker 3: and Coast Stadium, terrible name. That's all right, But we'll
Speaker 3: have coverage for you leading up to an hour before kickoff,
Speaker 3: so we'll be ready and we might even sneak in
Speaker 3: a little bit of college football updates just to keep everyone,
Speaker 3: you know, abreast of the situations across the landscape.
Speaker 1: Yeah, DKR, I think The get in price at DKR
Speaker 1: this week right now is three hundred and sixty one
Speaker 1: dollars for some game involving Georgia and Texas. As always,
Speaker 1: my friend, great to have you bat and lead off
Speaker 1: with us every single week, and we will catch up
Speaker 1: with you. Actually, we will be listening to you on
Speaker 1: the weekend. We'll catch up with you same time next week.
Speaker 1: Post mortem. One way or the other, we'll see you.
Speaker 4: Assume my friend sounds good, John, Thanks always.
Speaker 1: There we go. That's a Abe. Abe has smashed the
Speaker 1: home run, or at least he's bunted, and he's made
Speaker 1: its way all the way to third. He's gonna get
Speaker 1: ready to be knocked in by the easy single by
Speaker 1: me back in the second here. Always great to catch
Speaker 1: up with with Abe at nine two nine the game
Speaker 1: and at Abe Gordon and Abe is going to go
Speaker 1: and become properly hydrated and so he can get in
Speaker 1: his day work and his roadwork and all the other
Speaker 1: kind of work that he does. Okay, all right, so
Speaker 1: let's say hi everybody this morning and get you into
Speaker 1: the news of the day. Morning Alex, Morning, David and David. Yes,
Speaker 1: David said he had an exciting day out at GSU
Speaker 1: and ODU last night, and yes, that is one of
Speaker 1: the two games that we are going to discuss. So
Speaker 1: David knows the situation that we're going to be discussing
Speaker 1: in ten thirty and beyond in refing down here extended
Speaker 1: morning Dell. Dell is optimistic about the USA man, like
Speaker 1: I said, we will discuss that specifically with Bart Keeler
Speaker 1: coming up in a half an hour and David yet
Speaker 1: they went to Vart the GSU game to award a PK.
Speaker 1: Like I said, We'll get into this situation and discuss
Speaker 1: another incident in the Sun Belt conference that happened late
Speaker 1: last month that should be sending off some kind of alarm.
Speaker 1: Bell raised eyebrow, what have you about the college game?
Speaker 1: Like I said, we'll get into it. The one thing
Speaker 1: I am not going to do is, and I did
Speaker 1: this on purpose, I'm not going to mention official officials names.
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't know who they were. I don't
Speaker 1: want to know who they were. It's a larger issue
Speaker 1: that we're going to get into around ten thirty morning. Abby, Yeah,
Speaker 1: rod Well, let's see, So David says, Rod KRW the
Speaker 1: greatest stance ever I mean Rod was Rod had the
Speaker 1: bat back here, the handle of the bat was facing
Speaker 1: the picture. You had Rod Carew, you had Julio Franco.
Speaker 1: Let's see, I'm trying to think of other good batting stances.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if you liked Rod Cruz and
Speaker 1: Pete Rose was kind of an offshoot to that. You know,
Speaker 1: you had Willie Stargel and Joe Morgan with the timing
Speaker 1: mechanisms that they had with the elbow drops and making
Speaker 1: sure that they were ready to go. So Abby's jealous
Speaker 1: that I got to go see Elo. When the tickets
Speaker 1: went on tour and I checked the date, I literally
Speaker 1: had to cross reference everything. So yeah, last week was
Speaker 1: two dates with the Boss Lake Street Dive recommended, and
Speaker 1: that was Thursday at the Eastern, and they finished their
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four tour with three dates at the Eastern.
Speaker 1: They used to play Starbar, which was interesting to hear
Speaker 1: Rachel say that, and then Elo when jeff Lynn said
Speaker 1: it was going to be done, that's it, We're doing
Speaker 1: it and this is it. I was like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: got to dive in on that. And so literally I
Speaker 1: was cross referencing schedules and things like that to see
Speaker 1: if it could be something, it could be done. Great
Speaker 1: show went for like an hour forty five with one
Speaker 1: toweling off break, and you had like fourteen or fifteen
Speaker 1: thousand people singing falsetto choruses. It was pretty funny. But
Speaker 1: now it was a great concert, great light show, and
Speaker 1: it was very very cool to see ELO. And for
Speaker 1: me it was kind of a circular moment because it
Speaker 1: was the New World Record tour at the Omni was
Speaker 1: the first concert I've ever saw, so years later seeing
Speaker 1: Jeff Lynn on his last tour performing ELO music and
Speaker 1: as jeff Lynn's ELO is how it's being phrased, So
Speaker 1: seeing that to wrap things up for him, seeing them
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy seven for the first time, very very cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit of baseball down here, nothing wrong with that. Yeah, yeah, Alex, Yeah, Abe,
Speaker 1: but Abe got us into Abe got us into the
Speaker 1: swear jar early and yeah, Abby, I'm right there with you.
Speaker 1: I kind of need a nap about four, but I
Speaker 1: pushed through and yep, Elanny Knight should have taken care
Speaker 1: of business early. Should be a busy off season for Garth.
Speaker 1: Abby says, should be pleasantly surprised if they move forward,
Speaker 1: Abby and the discussion. H Yeah, Wade Boggs did have
Speaker 1: a stance, absolutely true. Enter and Co seems to be okay,
Speaker 1: so from what we understand, and this was a concerned
Speaker 1: that others had raised on the two D eighty character
Speaker 1: app as well, Enter and Co seems to be okay,
Speaker 1: Enter and okay. So so far right now, everything's cool
Speaker 1: and the stadium in Middle Florida is oki dokie. Let's see. Abby. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he does well. He needs to the needs not to
Speaker 1: have the heavy touch. I mean, the ideas are there
Speaker 1: and you can see them, but the touch is missing.
Speaker 1: And that's something I think that Edwin needs to work on. Michael,
Speaker 1: I think is back from vacation, back on this side
Speaker 1: of the of the Atlantic. Good morning, Michael. Morning pars
Speaker 1: and David cecil Cooper of the Brewers. That's a good pull, Abby,
Speaker 1: major Jewish holiday. Yes, that is true and she couldn't
Speaker 1: do Eelo And yeah, Wade bogs definitely had a stance,
Speaker 1: So yeah, bring in your baseball stances anybody else that
Speaker 1: was there on your mind. As we kind of got
Speaker 1: into baseball this morning with Abe as he was batt
Speaker 1: and lead off and kind of carried the joke a
Speaker 1: little further. Okay, we'll get into Like I said, we'll
Speaker 1: get into the numbers with Art and some of the
Speaker 1: quotes after the match with Bart when he comes in
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour, so News of the
Speaker 1: morning and this was this is just flat out odd.
Speaker 1: But I can't say that when it comes to international competition.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised Nigeria players. And this is Chris Bascom at
Speaker 1: The Guardian, the Sorry, the Telegraph, among other places. So
Speaker 1: wilfrid In Dede, who plays at Lester, claims he and
Speaker 1: his Nigerian teammates are quote being held hostage at a
Speaker 1: Libyan airport after an AFCAN qualifier turned into a diplomatic incident,
Speaker 1: and this is Bascomb's wording. Libya complained that they received
Speaker 1: poor treatment when the teams met in Nigeria last Friday,
Speaker 1: where Nigeria won one nil. So Libya is now being
Speaker 1: accused of retaliating by sabotaging Nigeria's travel arrangement ahead of
Speaker 1: the scheduled return match tomorrow night local time. Nigeria said
Speaker 1: their charter flight was supposed to land in ben Ghazi,
Speaker 1: but was instead diverted by the Libyan government to al Abrock.
Speaker 1: I don't know the I don't know my Libyan geography,
Speaker 1: but we'll get into that in a sec. Upon landing,
Speaker 1: the players said they were prevented from leaving the airport,
Speaker 1: which is four hours away from the original destination, and
Speaker 1: have been denied food and somewhere to sleep. The Nigerian
Speaker 1: players took to social media to express their disgust that
Speaker 1: they will refuse to play in Tuesday's fixture in protest. Indeed,
Speaker 1: he said quote, this is not football, very embarrassing, hostage
Speaker 1: to a national team, disgrace and so they There are
Speaker 1: pictures of the Nigerian squad sleeping in airports and things
Speaker 1: like that that's on social media. Victor Osimhan, who is
Speaker 1: not part of the squad, called on the confederation to
Speaker 1: take robust action against Libya for their inhumane the word
Speaker 1: that he used conduct Oh seen him on Instagram quote,
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed by the unfair treatment my brothers and coaches
Speaker 1: are facing at the Libya airport. Actions like this go
Speaker 1: against the spirit of sportsmanship. My support is with my
Speaker 1: team and I know they'll stay strong despite these obstacles.
Speaker 1: I call on CALF to intervene as my teammates and
Speaker 1: officials are still stranded at the airport in Libya. This
Speaker 1: is uncalled for and in humanely. Stand together stronger than ever.
Speaker 1: Captain William trucet Ekong called on his country's politicians to
Speaker 1: help the footballers, before announcing the team would finally be
Speaker 1: leaving the airport after having their plane refueled. Quote. We've
Speaker 1: called for the iron Nigerian government to intervene and rescue us.
Speaker 1: As the captain. Together with the team, we've decided that
Speaker 1: we will not play this game. CALF should look at
Speaker 1: the report and what is happening here. Even if they
Speaker 1: decide to allow this kind of behavior, let them have
Speaker 1: the points. Later posted on x power of social media,
Speaker 1: apparently our plane is being fueled as we speak and
Speaker 1: we should be leaving to Nigeria shortly. Thanks for everyone's support.
Speaker 1: I reiterate we would never treat a guest nation for
Speaker 1: a game in this way. Mistakes happened, to lay happened,
Speaker 1: but never on purpose. Libya registered their own complaints but
Speaker 1: for the first meeting of the Nations in u Yo,
Speaker 1: Nigeria last week. Although the Nigeria Football Federation denied ill treatment,
Speaker 1: Libya captain Faisal Albadry said the team was subjected to
Speaker 1: numerous delays upon arriving in Nigeria and were denied adequate security.
Speaker 1: In response to the NFF argued that the Libyan Football
Speaker 1: Federation had not accurately had not adequately liaised regarding their
Speaker 1: changing travel arrangements and arrival times. Quote, the NFF Assistant
Speaker 1: director emmanuel A Bunmi said, I spoke to the General
Speaker 1: Secretary of the LFF at length on Monday, October seven,
Speaker 1: and he never hinted that his team would be arriving
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. So yeah, you got that with Afkhan going on,
Speaker 1: and so that was it's part and parcel to everything.
Speaker 1: And then Leek Carsley. Remember the discussion that we were
Speaker 1: getting into with Carsley as to whether or not he
Speaker 1: applied for the head coaching gig in England. Thought he did,
Speaker 1: went publicans said I hope to be coach of the
Speaker 1: U twenty ones and so then he just had another
Speaker 1: bizarre presser. He did not give any clarity over his future,
Speaker 1: despite claiming the permanent manager should be quote a world
Speaker 1: class coach who has won trophies and admitting that that
Speaker 1: is not yet him. England beat Finland. Yesterday in Helsinki
Speaker 1: Telegraph reported Saturday, sources in and around the England setup
Speaker 1: are convinced he does not want the permanent job, preferring
Speaker 1: to continue working on his craft at this stage of
Speaker 1: his coaching career. Carsly told ITV quote, this job deserves
Speaker 1: a world class coach who has won trophies, and I'm
Speaker 1: still on the path to that. But car claimed he
Speaker 1: had definitely not publicly ruled himself out of the running
Speaker 1: with his comments to ITV and said, quote, like I say,
Speaker 1: it's important that I do the best that I can.
Speaker 1: It's a privilege to do this job. I feel well trusted.
Speaker 1: It's a great job and you know, whoever gets it
Speaker 1: will be fully deserving. I tried to make it as
Speaker 1: clear as I could. Sidebar onen't really clear, continuing my
Speaker 1: remit was for three camps. The point I was trying
Speaker 1: to make is that it's one of the top jobs
Speaker 1: in the world. I'm not a part of the process,
Speaker 1: but it deserves a top coach. The players we have available,
Speaker 1: we've got a real chance of winning. That was the
Speaker 1: point I was making. This is a world class job,
Speaker 1: one that is up there with the best jobs in
Speaker 1: football and whoever gets it's going to be of a
Speaker 1: high level. It's a privilege to do this job. I'm
Speaker 1: really well trusted. That's why it was so tough to
Speaker 1: lose the other night. Asked if he wants to be
Speaker 1: a part of the FA process to a point a
Speaker 1: full time manager once his interim period ends, Carsley said,
Speaker 1: I speak to the technical Director of FA, John McDermott
Speaker 1: every day. We spend a lot of time together. I
Speaker 1: definitely don't think it's something I should be involved with.
Speaker 1: My role is quite clear, and I've got two titles
Speaker 1: at the minute, interim senior manager and you twenty one
Speaker 1: head coach. I'm really lucky with the support I get
Speaker 1: at the FA from all of the people that work
Speaker 1: above me. Very lucky with the bosses I've got. I
Speaker 1: feel well supported and privileged to be in this position
Speaker 1: to be able to coach the senior team en quote.
Speaker 1: He refused to directly answer whether or not he wants
Speaker 1: the permanent job, and asked why he would not quote.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely reluctant because in the past, when I've done
Speaker 1: this caretaker or interim role, I've gone so far down
Speaker 1: the I don't want the job I've actually not done
Speaker 1: the job. It was one of the things I spoke
Speaker 1: about when I was asked to take temporary charge. It's
Speaker 1: important that I keep an open mind because in that
Speaker 1: case that I'm not being reckless with my decisions. Continuing later,
Speaker 1: I can definitely understand why you would be frustrated by it,
Speaker 1: meaning the lack of clarity. Definitely, I can understand that
Speaker 1: because clarity is what everyone's looking for in the process.
Speaker 1: It was really clear in terms of the three camps.
Speaker 1: I'm not someone that's constantly saying to John McDermott, can
Speaker 1: I have an update? Can I have an update? Because
Speaker 1: the job is difficult enough as it currently So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm quite comfortable in that respect. But yeah, I can
Speaker 1: understand why you'd be frustrated. So do you or don't you?
Speaker 1: And Carsley's like, I got three camps if I'm If,
Speaker 1: But if I'm Lee Carsley and I want the gig
Speaker 1: and I'm confident enough in myself to have a conversation
Speaker 1: with myself and go self, do we want to be
Speaker 1: in charge of the of the England national team? Do
Speaker 1: we want to be in charge of the three Lions?
Speaker 1: I guess this is where we need to bring Jessica
Speaker 1: Charman in the conversation. If you're confident in yourself, shouldn't
Speaker 1: you sit there and say, yeah, I want the gig,
Speaker 1: And I'm going to prove in these three camps that
Speaker 1: I want the gig. If at the end of these
Speaker 1: three camps that I'm part of the discussion, but I
Speaker 1: don't end up being the guy that they choose, and
Speaker 1: I'll go back to being the head coach of the
Speaker 1: U twenty one and I'll continue to ply our trade
Speaker 1: there and we'll win trophies there. To me, it just
Speaker 1: seems that Lee Carsley, I don't know if he can't
Speaker 1: make up his mind, doesn't want to make up his mind,
Speaker 1: doesn't want to continue, doesn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: But it's like, look, if you're confident in yourself, say it.
Speaker 1: If you're confident in yourself as a U twenty one,
Speaker 1: say that. It's like he's saying he's saying one side,
Speaker 1: and then he's saying the other side, and then it's
Speaker 1: like he's saying both things, but then he's saying nothing.
Speaker 1: If that makes any sense. England beat Finland three to one,
Speaker 1: by the way, and so we'll get into math with Bart,
Speaker 1: and there's some things that we do need to discuss
Speaker 1: involving the men's national team, like folks that will not
Speaker 1: be around for the second friendly. And we talked about
Speaker 1: points and things like that. We'll let Bart do some
Speaker 1: math and see if we can figure it out. And
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's like you look at what Lee Carsley
Speaker 1: is saying and then you're like, mm hmm. I mean
Speaker 1: literally it is. It is just a yeah, yea and apparently,
Speaker 1: and and you know that everybody's going to be asked
Speaker 1: about it. Pep Guardiola was asked about it, and so
Speaker 1: of course Pep saying what he says, but not really
Speaker 1: saying anything. Everybody's like, oh, Pep's interested, Sure, Sure, Pep's interested.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna say he's not not I don't want it.
Speaker 1: But Pep Guardiola when he was asked, he's the equivalent
Speaker 1: of anything's possible. Matt Law and Jason Burke, by the
Speaker 1: way at the Telegraph add this to the mix. The
Speaker 1: FA has not yet formally interviewed any of the leading
Speaker 1: candidates to become the next permanent England manager, more than
Speaker 1: two months after the closing date for applications. What does
Speaker 1: that say prompting questions over the process to appoint Garrett's
Speaker 1: Southgate's permanent successor, which the FA insists is robust, ongoing
Speaker 1: and must remain confidential. Yet apparently you have yet to
Speaker 1: formally interview anyone. FA is not giving any updates on
Speaker 1: their progress. Telegraph has been told that none of the
Speaker 1: external favorites have been formally interviewed. Eddie how Graham, Potter,
Speaker 1: Thomas tookewill all heavily linked. Manchester City's PEP Guardiella remains
Speaker 1: a dream long term candidate, with some believing the FA
Speaker 1: would be prepared to wait for PEP if he gave
Speaker 1: it any encouragement. The FA has been accused of dragging
Speaker 1: their feet. Some candidates have been sounded out, either directly
Speaker 1: or indirectly. Checks have been made on individuals. It's claimed
Speaker 1: that formal interviews have not yet taken place. The FA
Speaker 1: closing date for applications was August the second, So then
Speaker 1: the question is is the FA kind of hoping that
Speaker 1: Carsly will play himself or coach himself into the gig
Speaker 1: because he definitely would be financially viable. No word on
Speaker 1: whether or not a tenured professorship would help out in
Speaker 1: bringing in any of the big names or help out
Speaker 1: in having Carsly secure. The gig never viewed the permanent
Speaker 1: job as his to lose, while the FA has never
Speaker 1: veered from the fact that Carsly has been given three
Speaker 1: international breaks as interim head coach. Source told The Telegraph, Oh,
Speaker 1: we keep hearing about a process, but what's actually happening.
Speaker 1: Why has nobody been interviewed? What have the FA been
Speaker 1: doing for the past two months. They will hide behind
Speaker 1: the fact that it's confidential, but they haven't formally interviewed
Speaker 1: anybody of any note. The FA believes that in appointing
Speaker 1: Carsley they laid out their timeline having to provide public updates,
Speaker 1: and now they're questioning the role of John McDermott, the
Speaker 1: FA technical director, the one that we were talking about,
Speaker 1: where Carsley was saying and saying, well, why don't have
Speaker 1: a conversation with John go Well, John am I? John
Speaker 1: am I not? So it's chaos with the FA. So
Speaker 1: the FA has no clue, or they may if they
Speaker 1: do have a clue, then they're certainly not letting the
Speaker 1: rest of us know about the clue that they have
Speaker 1: when it comes to bringing in a successor, or are
Speaker 1: they bringing in a successor. Carsly fears losing focus if
Speaker 1: he talks about the England Gig frankly, legitimately, frankly, if
Speaker 1: I'm asked about it, I'm sitting there, and if I'm
Speaker 1: confident in myself, I'm sitting there saying, yeah, I'm coaching.
Speaker 1: I'm coaching my ass off because i want my country
Speaker 1: to succeed. And if it ends up at the end
Speaker 1: of the day that I'm a part of this discussion
Speaker 1: that they view that my body of work is worthy
Speaker 1: of being considered considered for the top spot, in addition
Speaker 1: to all the other names that have been mentioned publicly
Speaker 1: or have not been mentioned and have only been mentioned
Speaker 1: privately within the walls of the FA. I'd like to
Speaker 1: be a part of that discussion, and I'm hoping that
Speaker 1: these three camps will make me a part of that discussion.
Speaker 1: That's what Lee Carsley needs to say here. If he's
Speaker 1: confident in himself, the best way to accomplish something is
Speaker 1: bank on yourself. Lee Carsley apparently is be hoping that
Speaker 1: somebody steals the pin number of somebody else's credit card
Speaker 1: and he gets to use that going forward. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it's just it seems too overly chaotic and Carsley
Speaker 1: wants to say things and not say things and not
Speaker 1: lose focus. Man the ultimate focus. If you don't want
Speaker 1: to lose focus, then focus on winning. Sit there and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do our damn just to represent our country
Speaker 1: as best we can. And if it ends up at
Speaker 1: the end of the day that while I'm confident in
Speaker 1: myself and the abilities of of me and my staff
Speaker 1: to move the England the England team forward as best
Speaker 1: we can when it comes to European competition, if at
Speaker 1: the end of the day the England FA feels that
Speaker 1: they need to go in a different direction, that ultimately
Speaker 1: is their choice. But I'm confident in myself and all
Speaker 1: of and all of our collective abilities here to give
Speaker 1: the best representation of the Three Lions in international football
Speaker 1: as we I would love to be considered at the
Speaker 1: end of these three windows for the gig if they
Speaker 1: feel that I'm worthy. Not hard, Not hard, It is
Speaker 1: not hard, sir. And basically what Pep Guardilla told international
Speaker 1: to the Italian television on Jetempo che Fa leaving city
Speaker 1: not true. Haven't decided yet and it's not even true
Speaker 1: that I will be the next England coach if I
Speaker 1: if I had decided, I would say it. I don't
Speaker 1: know either anything can happen. So basically what you have
Speaker 1: is an entire country running off of that quote on
Speaker 1: Italian television about interest or not interest or anything of
Speaker 1: that sort. When it comes to the England gig. Joel Matchett,
Speaker 1: by the way, has confirmed his retirement at the age
Speaker 1: of thirty three. So let's see Guardian Telegraph, let's see
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Independent. Yeah, yeah, Derek Parky
Speaker 1: said it best. It's not coming home at this rate.
Speaker 1: It definitely is not coming home. And apparently Jack Grealish
Speaker 1: revealed a five hundred pound bet with Alexander arnoldver an
Speaker 1: England free kick and he lost that bet. Gabriel Martinelli
Speaker 1: injury concern for Arsenal as they get ready for their
Speaker 1: trip to Bournemouth. I'm sure that Bart's ears were burning
Speaker 1: as we were discussing that. But Kayosaka ruled out of
Speaker 1: England's match against Finland, so that was a part of
Speaker 1: the discussion as well. And Ronald Cooman, mad about Van
Speaker 1: Dyck being banned, got two yellow cards in three minutes
Speaker 1: late in the second half of the Netherlands won one
Speaker 1: draw with Hungary in the Nations League and so now
Speaker 1: you will not call up a replacement for the suspended
Speaker 1: captain ahead of the vital trip to Germany today. Left
Speaker 1: perplexed by the sending off in the Nation's League game.
Speaker 1: So you have all kind of fun and interesting things
Speaker 1: that are going on here. Wouldn't be international football if
Speaker 1: it wasn't. So that's the rundown of everything in European football,
Speaker 1: going too juice boxes and the other activity after ten
Speaker 1: thirties we get you ready for what to watch, where
Speaker 1: to watch it, how to watch it, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But gossip that is there leading into today. Arsenal confident
Speaker 1: Williams Saliba will remain at the Emirates despite interest from
Speaker 1: Real Madrid. You've a could move for dominant Calvert Lewin
Speaker 1: out of contract in the summer. United approach Stuttgart manager
Speaker 1: at Sebastian Huns to replace Eric Tenhag over the summer,
Speaker 1: but he turned him down. Manchester United still with a
Speaker 1: chance of recruiting Thomas Tukel despite him being linked to
Speaker 1: the England Gig. Brazil keeper Ederson says he had an
Speaker 1: offer to leave Manchester City in the summer talks with
Speaker 1: Pep Guardi yellow or key to him staying with the
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Speaker 1: our number two it is ten o'clock, and so ten
Speaker 1: o'clock on a Monday means that we bring in Bart
Speaker 1: Keeler from the Soccer for US Pod two episodes Shy
Speaker 1: of one hundred and Bart, is it true that that
Speaker 1: the coal rush uniforms for West Virginia are going to
Speaker 1: be thrown out with the sofas and just burned at
Speaker 1: the stake? There he goes.
Speaker 2: You know, I saw a tweet from a w fan account,
Speaker 2: very popular one, and I like what they say, like
Speaker 2: all the time, but mentioned that wearing the coal rush
Speaker 2: uniform and putting out that type of performance is not
Speaker 2: representative of the state. And as much as I love
Speaker 2: the state of West Virginia, I have to say, actually
Speaker 2: it is kind of very representative. Trying to celebrate coal
Speaker 2: and then falling flat on your face is pretty representative
Speaker 2: of the state of West Virginia. They should move on
Speaker 2: from coal. Respect all the coal miners. You have a
Speaker 2: hard and dangerous job. But there are other things to
Speaker 2: celebrate about the great state of West Virginia, and natural
Speaker 2: beauty being one of those that, by the way, Cole
Speaker 2: ruins a lot of But you know, hey, windmills are
Speaker 2: the problem, not strip mining where you take off an
Speaker 2: entire top of a.
Speaker 1: Mountain, correct, I know, yes, yes, absolutely, But no, I
Speaker 1: thought they looked Falcons.
Speaker 2: One on Sunday, John, That's what I'm focusing on. Tech
Speaker 2: one at UGA. That's a great win for them. Auburn
Speaker 2: didn't have to cause your household any internal stress today.
Speaker 1: Well either did Florida State.
Speaker 2: By the way, you're right, You're right. You got to
Speaker 2: watch opposing fans, you know, go through the consternation of
Speaker 2: being a football fan this weekend.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is absolutely true, and we talked about it
Speaker 1: on the OSG side of things. With the other elements
Speaker 1: and things that went on, we were all either looking
Speaker 1: at everybody else and not worrying about our bye week
Speaker 1: and wondering how we could still be fifteenth in the
Speaker 1: Conference of seventeen schools. But there there was a moment,
Speaker 1: and there was a moment in US soccer where it
Speaker 1: was officially official. First off, was was Q two even full?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think it was officially full. It
Speaker 1: was close. They announced the night before the game they
Speaker 1: had basically like what they needed two thousand tickets to
Speaker 1: be sold wow, which you know is disheartening because Q
Speaker 1: two is only a stadium of just over twenty thousand.
Speaker 2: So the fact that they weren't able to m yeah, attended, well,
Speaker 2: they announced attends at twenty two thirty nine, so I
Speaker 2: guess it was a full house. Congratulations or it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I would hope that, you know, US soccer would have
Speaker 2: been able to sell out the match of the first Yeah,
Speaker 2: the first match of its new head coach, the best,
Speaker 2: biggest head coach of its history. But you know, oh well,
Speaker 2: apparently they did sell out. Good for them. It took
Speaker 2: them all until the day of the game.
Speaker 1: Yes, so we end up with a win for the
Speaker 1: United States. And the way that John Arnold at all
Speaker 1: phrased it was this, It was that Pochettino's US M
Speaker 1: and T passed the vibe check. How long will the
Speaker 1: good times roll? He says. Soccer is about physical ability
Speaker 1: and skill, plus the collective understanding of how best to
Speaker 1: work together to score goals keep the other team scoring
Speaker 1: on you. But especially at the international level, vibes enter
Speaker 1: the equation too, whether it's frustration with a certain coach's
Speaker 1: style of play, anger at recent results, or even national
Speaker 1: moods spilling into the sporting sphere. What's going on around
Speaker 1: a team often has a big effect on a team's form,
Speaker 1: even when it seems to perre in the ability and
Speaker 1: skills sector. That may even be more true in the
Speaker 1: Concacaff region, where the depth of any given national team
Speaker 1: is unlikely to match that of counterparts in UEFA or Connoble.
Speaker 1: My friends at the World of Concacaff podcast say that
Speaker 1: Concacaff is a vibes based economy.
Speaker 2: Cocacaff is a vibes based economy. That that is a fact.
Speaker 1: While hiring Mursio Pochettino or Jesse Marshall, havieror Gira is
Speaker 1: designed to take advantage of a coach's experience at the
Speaker 1: highest levels of the club game, they're also intended to
Speaker 1: change the vibes. No one would argue the vibes were
Speaker 1: good at the end of Greg Burholter's tenure leading to
Speaker 1: the US men's national team, and no one will argue
Speaker 1: there anything but good. One game into the Pochattino era,
Speaker 1: after a two nail victory over Panama, what say you,
Speaker 1: Bart Keeler.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that for starters, you got to win
Speaker 2: over Panama, which under the Burholter tenure was kind of
Speaker 2: this bugaboo team, right, I mean, Panama beat US in
Speaker 2: World Cup qualifying down there, they proved to be a
Speaker 2: problem for US in Gold Cups, you know, knocked us
Speaker 2: out of the last of the twenty twenty three Gold Cup.
Speaker 2: That was a lot of math beat us obviously in
Speaker 2: Cocoa America for you know, and there are some extenuating
Speaker 2: circumstances around them. You remember that loss in World Cup qualifying.
Speaker 2: We had Josse's artist starting, which is a recipe for
Speaker 2: disturb for anyone. You then lost in that Gold Cup
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three because you know, Panama doesn't have
Speaker 2: a B squad, they have their A squad and the
Speaker 2: US was playing somewhere between a D and a B squad.
Speaker 2: And then obviously with the Copa America result, it was
Speaker 2: because you had you know.
Speaker 1: A.
Speaker 2: Red card by Tim Wahab for being you know, a
Speaker 2: little dumb. But you know, this was a This was
Speaker 2: definitely not a first choice lineup from the US, right,
Speaker 2: not just with the injuries that we knew of coming
Speaker 2: into camp, but then the players that were selected were
Speaker 2: probably not the first choice for a lot of people
Speaker 2: that would be picking a team, and there are obvious
Speaker 2: reasons for that. I'm sure we will have a question about.
Speaker 2: And so the fact that you won is good because
Speaker 2: that as a reversal from what you've seen in recent history.
Speaker 2: But also John apparently saw one watching the broadcast Panama
Speaker 2: had scored a goal on the US in at least
Speaker 2: five straight games.
Speaker 1: Wow, and so.
Speaker 2: You got to shut out and that was the hallmark
Speaker 2: of the burd To Halter Tenter. So the tenure, so
Speaker 2: I was told by his supporters, is that, oh, his
Speaker 2: defensive scheme is very good. We don't give up a
Speaker 2: whole lot of goals. Again, Panama seemed to be the
Speaker 2: team that figured out how to Panama and Canada where
Speaker 2: the two teams that figured out how to score goals
Speaker 2: against the US consistently. And a lot of that is
Speaker 2: looking at what we saw. The difference between Saturday and
Speaker 2: what we saw a difference between you know, the last
Speaker 2: few games of the Burholter era was I think two things.
Speaker 2: One was just an intentionality to the play more frequently, okay,
Speaker 2: And then I don't want to say intensity because I
Speaker 2: don't think that's like a fair metric to use. It's
Speaker 2: a little that's a little too vibesy, but you could
Speaker 2: just tell that there was a understanding of the severity
Speaker 2: of Hey, I'm playing for the national team. We got
Speaker 2: to go win. Was it perfect? By no stretch?
Speaker 1: It was perfect?
Speaker 2: Right it was. There were there were errant passes everywhere.
Speaker 2: There were obviously players who didn't live up to the
Speaker 2: moment at many times, some players who, unfortunately, I think,
Speaker 2: failed to capitalize on the opportunity they had from you know,
Speaker 2: being able to start over players who were injured or
Speaker 2: being held out due to rest. But overall, the team
Speaker 2: as a collective got a too new well when at
Speaker 2: home in the first game of the punchtoon era. And
Speaker 2: that's that's the positive.
Speaker 1: Eunice Mussa scores in the forty ninth through Cardo Peppy
Speaker 1: scores at ninety plus four.
Speaker 2: That's what does he scores in Austin.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is true, just asking I'm as verites about
Speaker 1: that too from his time at FCD. Uh sealed. The
Speaker 1: victory ended USA's four game winless streak player ratings or
Speaker 1: player ratings. And this is where we tear apart what
Speaker 1: Soccer America likes to do on a match by match basis,
Speaker 1: Matt Turner had a six. Early in the second half.
Speaker 1: Turner stops Panama's first good chance with the diving save,
Speaker 1: jumped up to block the close range shot off the rebound,
Speaker 1: so Matt Turner with a six in net. For the
Speaker 1: United States defenders, Anthony Robinson gets a five, Mark McKenzie
Speaker 1: gets a five, Joe Scally gets a five. Tim Reen
Speaker 1: gets a six. Sparked the attack on the first goal
Speaker 1: with a long ball down the wing to Robinson, Reem
Speaker 1: and Mark McKenzie blocked several shots by those kind of
Speaker 1: le and mostly distributed safely, although mackenzie gifted Panama ball
Speaker 1: deep in the US half in a free kick at
Speaker 1: to the edge of the area. In the eighty seventh,
Speaker 1: Kinsey was beaten to the ball by a guarda Farina
Speaker 1: who hit wide from seven yards out. So five's basically
Speaker 1: across the board except for Tim Reim, who looks like
Speaker 1: he sparked an attack. Therefore he got a plus one
Speaker 1: there and got a six.
Speaker 2: I think that's a little unfair to Jedi, who did
Speaker 2: I think a much better job in a slightly more
Speaker 2: advanced role. I know formations aren't a real thing, but
Speaker 2: it was like an unbalanced four three three four three,
Speaker 2: where like Jedi and Musa were technically in the same plane,
Speaker 2: but like Musa was a little bit higher than Jedi.
Speaker 2: Like it was like they were a little bit on
Speaker 2: a seesaw. But I thought Jedi was better than a five.
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone else did anything worth noting from
Speaker 2: the defensive standpoint, And I again, I think mackenzie is
Speaker 2: one of those guys who did not take advantage a
Speaker 2: chance to put a good foot forward for the manager.
Speaker 2: I know, again, you get the shutout, but a lot
Speaker 2: of times he committed fouls or got beat to a
Speaker 2: ball and it just wasn't He continues to be this
Speaker 2: a story of unfulfilled promise from Mark McKenzie where you
Speaker 2: watch him and you go, this guy could be really good,
Speaker 2: and then when it comes time to actually test him,
Speaker 2: he kind of doesn't always pass the test, or if
Speaker 2: he does, it's like at best to see and you know,
Speaker 2: that's disappointing when Tim Brim seems to be the most
Speaker 2: competent center back in your center back pool right now
Speaker 2: and he's you know, eighty seven years old.
Speaker 1: Yes, midfielders Eunice Mussa Aiden Morris, Shall, Nikabusio, and Musa
Speaker 1: gets a seven. I'm guessing because you still get the goal.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, ooh, you got the goal,
Speaker 1: so therefore you get a you get a plus, you
Speaker 1: get a blue star.
Speaker 2: Attacked like they called him a midfielder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, uh imprecision contributed to the USA failure to
Speaker 1: turn possession into scoring threats. In the first half, forged
Speaker 1: forward more than usual, storm through the penalty area to
Speaker 1: finish Poliitic's low cross for the first US goal to
Speaker 1: Pochettino Era Unice gets Unice. Mussi gets a seven. I'm
Speaker 1: guessing because he scored. Bucio got a five, Aiden Morris
Speaker 1: got a six.
Speaker 2: That's a little harsh for Bussio. I would have given
Speaker 2: both he and Morris a sixth. I thought they were
Speaker 2: both like above average. I thought Morris had some turnovers
Speaker 2: that were not great. But I think the issue here
Speaker 2: is and we'll get to the next guy, as you
Speaker 2: had Aaronson also in this midfield kind of Amiba and
Speaker 2: outside of Musa. Right, none of those three guys, Busio, Morris,
Speaker 2: Aronson have proven to be a real driver for the
Speaker 2: US men's national team. Right, there are a lot of
Speaker 2: guys who are really good passengers, right. They might be
Speaker 2: your shotgun rider, great navigation, might be the backseat writer,
Speaker 2: great at distributing snacks, but they're not the guy driving
Speaker 2: you to the destination. And you know, I think you
Speaker 2: can trust Moosa to gets you there. But most of
Speaker 2: the other guys haven't proven that with the national team,
Speaker 2: and they didn't prove anything to that extent. But that's
Speaker 2: not a bad thing. They proved competent, and I think
Speaker 2: that's kind of the positive. Is okay, Well, if you
Speaker 2: add them with a McKenzie, right, or McKinney, excuse me,
Speaker 2: if you add them with Wes McKinney. If you add
Speaker 2: them maybe with Goo Rena who comes back healthy. You know,
Speaker 2: if they're a piece of the midfield, great, But all
Speaker 2: three of those together, those guys just it didn't really
Speaker 2: work all that well.
Speaker 1: Forwards Josh Sergeant, Brendan Aaronson, and Christian Polisic. Policic gets
Speaker 1: a seven. Brendan Aronson gets a five. Josh Sergeant was
Speaker 1: stripped to the ball when Bucio found him at the
Speaker 1: top of the penalty are your prime chance came in
Speaker 1: the forty second Busio fed a eight yards out, Sergeant
Speaker 1: ski the ball over the crossbar. I think it landed
Speaker 1: dk R and Sergeant did better with his.
Speaker 2: The race course there.
Speaker 1: John yeah, out by the airport, did better with his
Speaker 1: first shot of the second half, forcing his save with
Speaker 1: a seventeen yard shot. The our friends at Soccer America,
Speaker 1: and it was woy Tala who authored the piece, gave
Speaker 1: him a three.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That's like, that's like being in the That's like being
Speaker 1: in the backseat of the car and opening up the
Speaker 1: cooler and realizing that on the drive that you didn't
Speaker 1: hit the ziplock bag correctly and all the sandwiches because
Speaker 1: they were on top of ice, got all mushy. That
Speaker 1: would be a three for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think a three is worth is what
Speaker 2: he deserved. But I don't think he was close to average.
Speaker 2: Let's put it that way. I would have put him
Speaker 2: at a five or four maybe, But you know, I
Speaker 2: think this is the struggle with Josh Sergeant is the
Speaker 2: dude hasn't scored in like ten years for the national team.
Speaker 2: It feels like, yeah, and despite everyone thinking he is
Speaker 2: the guy who should be starting. I mean even with Baligan,
Speaker 2: people are like, well, I don't know, Sergeant, he just
Speaker 2: continues to get chances and doesn't get anything from him,
Speaker 2: you know, And we've talked about this ad nauseum onto
Speaker 2: my podcast that you know, strikers need to be more
Speaker 2: involved with this national team. They don't score enough, they
Speaker 2: don't get involved enough.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: He did have nineteen total touches, five in the penalty area.
Speaker 2: That's good, right, that's a decent number. But at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, what are we doing with those opportunities?
Speaker 2: And when you not only miss your one good chance
Speaker 2: but never find yourself in other good chances. I think
Speaker 2: his next best chance was like a corner kick or
Speaker 2: across the goal that the goalkeeper punched away, right, he
Speaker 2: just happened to be close to it. Oh yeah, Look,
Speaker 2: strikers rely on service. Strikers rely on other players around
Speaker 2: them to get them the ball. But it's also your
Speaker 2: job as a striker to put yourself in better positions
Speaker 2: to receive the ball and then play the ball off
Speaker 2: of you. And I think Sergeant just continues to not
Speaker 2: be able to do that for one reason or the other.
Speaker 2: It doesn't help when the other guy scores, by the way.
Speaker 1: No, no, And I'd love to know who it was
Speaker 1: in the State of Texas Chamber of Commerce or the
Speaker 1: city of Austin didn't get together with the schedule makers
Speaker 1: and have folks understand that when you have a Formula
Speaker 1: One race the same weekend as Georgia, Texas, that might
Speaker 1: be great for the economy, but when you're trying to
Speaker 1: find places to stay and trying to actually function in
Speaker 1: that town, that ain't the best thing to do. No.
Speaker 2: By a family tried to go up to Austin this
Speaker 2: year for the Georgia Texas game, and my parents are
Speaker 2: even going to RV it, so, you know, not looking
Speaker 2: at that, but even flights into an out of Austin
Speaker 2: or crazy Austin. By the way, talk about a city
Speaker 2: that needs a revamp of their airport, Bergs Airport itself
Speaker 2: is nice. Yeah, that needs to be about three times bigger.
Speaker 1: Yeah it does.
Speaker 2: Wait, I know they're building a new terminal, but holy crap.
Speaker 2: You know it's when Columbus, Ohio has a bigger airport
Speaker 2: than you do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Columbus has a better soccer team in Major
Speaker 1: League Soccer, but that's another discussion entirely. Uh subs Tanner,
Speaker 1: Tessaman and Christopher Lung got fives, Hodgi Wright and Malick
Speaker 1: Tilman got six's. Peppy as a sub got a seven.
Speaker 1: Alexandaehouse got our incomplete because of the lack of minutes
Speaker 1: victory into the four game winless streak, USA's longest since
Speaker 1: twenty two, and it went winless for five, one loss
Speaker 1: and four draws. USA had lost their two previous games
Speaker 1: to Panama two won it last Summer's Copa and in
Speaker 1: a shootout after a one to one draw the twenty
Speaker 1: three World Cup. That is where we are when it
Speaker 1: comes to your subs and everybody who played in the
Speaker 1: two nil one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, first off, I forgot that the US played. Thank
Speaker 2: you for reminding me that. Oh yeah he did. I
Speaker 2: guess he was secondly on the field when the goals scored,
Speaker 2: So good for him, you know. I think overall, like
Speaker 2: I said, this was a team that performed slightly better
Speaker 2: than average. The win itself is just the positive here
Speaker 2: because as you just ran through, not only did we
Speaker 2: have a long losing streak or winless streak, I should
Speaker 2: say we've also only won like one match since last March,
Speaker 2: right or since this March right that the Bolivia match. Okay, great,
Speaker 2: you beat Bolivia, I don't know, They're not a good
Speaker 2: soccer team. John, So you know when you had lost
Speaker 2: to Columbia so badly, Yes, you tied Brazil, you still
Speaker 2: don't win. Sure you can beat Bolivia, and then you
Speaker 2: know you losed Panama on away Canada New Zealand, Like
Speaker 2: that was a skid you needed to break out of.
Speaker 2: Now the problem is as we turned the page to Mexico.
Speaker 2: I mean Mexico has their own issues right now. I
Speaker 2: mean they've lost to who they play severe Valencia or
Speaker 2: one of those Lalliga teams I think was playing a
Speaker 2: first choice land up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they are they are in fact part issue US.
Speaker 2: You are correct, Yeah, yeah, they they they gave up
Speaker 2: a two goal lead and ended up tying to to
Speaker 2: Not great from LG. But for the US, look, you
Speaker 2: get the gwin. That is that is the positive because
Speaker 2: again you you do need the positive reinforcement of the
Speaker 2: work that Poch put in for this week that said,
Speaker 2: if you expected a lot of grand changes and immediate
Speaker 2: you know, flips of the switch, that wasn't gonna happen
Speaker 2: because Paccino and Berhalter are not that far apart, right,
Speaker 2: They're their coaching style there, U excuse me, they're playing
Speaker 2: style the philosophies about how the game is played. What
Speaker 2: we did see I think is multiple times throughout the
Speaker 2: match Pochettino urging the team to just play a little
Speaker 2: bit quicker and move the ball a little bit better.
Speaker 2: And that was something that you know, we had fallen
Speaker 2: into a lull under the Burholter tenure in the second
Speaker 2: you know, era two point zero Burholter is the horseshoe passed.
Speaker 2: I mean it looked very pinatea ballish right where there
Speaker 2: was a lot of passing with no actual intent to
Speaker 2: do anything with it. And in this match, you know,
Speaker 2: you could see Pochettino signaling to try to do something
Speaker 2: with the ball because you know that the goal. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you know this, John, the goal of soccer,
Speaker 2: the sport is to put the ball in the opponent's net.
Speaker 2: That's that's the whole point, right, do that more times
Speaker 2: than they do it to you, huh. And in order
Speaker 2: to do that, it does help to have the ball
Speaker 2: on their opponent's half and maybe close to their goal
Speaker 2: on occasion. So that is I think the one thing
Speaker 2: that I saw a difference of there was also some
Speaker 2: more central combo play rather than just get it wide
Speaker 2: and cross it in, which was another problem with the
Speaker 2: Burholter strategy at the end. And so from those two
Speaker 2: things right there, it did look better. And again against
Speaker 2: the team in Panama that had been a problem for
Speaker 2: this program for a while now.
Speaker 1: All right, so ropes with a question who had the
Speaker 1: best look Saturday? You liked that Bussia was playing.
Speaker 2: Uh who had the best look? Peppy because he scored
Speaker 2: and Sergeant didn't. And now Peppy is going home, which
Speaker 2: I'm a little upset about.
Speaker 1: And that's the That's the next thing I want to
Speaker 1: get into topic wise, but we keep going.
Speaker 2: No, I thought bousy again, I thought all those midfielders,
Speaker 2: to me, outside of Aaronson, proved that they are able
Speaker 2: to play in the midfield with other players who are
Speaker 2: better than them. But as a combo that midfield was
Speaker 2: not superb and it's not going to get better on
Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, so that's concerning.
Speaker 1: Abby was surprised to hear about that. The player said
Speaker 1: it was the first time that they'd had a US
Speaker 1: M and T practice. It was two hours in the
Speaker 1: time that they had been on the national team, and
Speaker 1: Abby's like, really they never had a practice it was
Speaker 1: two hours long.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean I think that's kind of a
Speaker 2: I don't maybe two hours is probably the most you'll
Speaker 2: get in a club training session, but like when you
Speaker 2: get to the national teams, you have to remember, you
Speaker 2: get in on a Monday, and you play that Friday
Speaker 2: or Saturday, right sometimes Thursday. Yeah, so you don't have
Speaker 2: a whole lot of actual training time, and you certainly
Speaker 2: then don't have a whole lot of recovery time. And
Speaker 2: that's the thing that I think, you know, people don't
Speaker 2: want to factor in a look if you think all
Speaker 2: they're doing is going out there and kicking a ball
Speaker 2: for two hours, which one is not what happens. You're
Speaker 2: not kicking a ball and doing soccer for two hours.
Speaker 2: You're doing a whole lot of things within the two
Speaker 2: hours on the field. Right from what I also could
Speaker 2: infer from a lot of these is yes, it was intense,
Speaker 2: and yes there was a lot of training going on
Speaker 2: during the two hour training time. It seemed like Pochettino
Speaker 2: was also stopping and explaining, maybe not fully, but like
Speaker 2: pulling players aside and having conversations. So I think it
Speaker 2: was more of a two hour installation session and two
Speaker 2: hour how do I also say this because all these
Speaker 2: coaches have their own types of training exercises too, right,
Speaker 2: And so I mean that quote came out what on Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I think maybe we're not.
Speaker 1: Running, you're not running around for a full two hours, but.
Speaker 2: It is right, and you're probably going through the motions
Speaker 2: and understanding, Okay, this is this training exercise, this is
Speaker 2: what we want to do, this is what the mechanics
Speaker 2: of it, this is why we're doing it, this is
Speaker 2: how it applies in game. So I understand why that
Speaker 2: quote got a lot of Look, two hours is a
Speaker 2: very long time for a training session, especially at the
Speaker 2: national team level, where your recovery windows are shortened and
Speaker 2: your actual training availability is short and you just don't
Speaker 2: want to run guys ragged. I don't think we saw
Speaker 2: that on Saturday. But you know, I'm just saying that
Speaker 2: the two hour thing is a little overblown. I promise
Speaker 2: you most guys aren't. Most teams aren't out there actually
Speaker 2: training for two hours. You can ask I'm sure you
Speaker 2: can ask Jason when you guys have watches Atlanta United.
Speaker 2: You know, yes, it may be two hours, but it's
Speaker 2: not you're not playing a full game.
Speaker 1: Yank running around for a full two You're you're you're
Speaker 1: you're doing a lot of Yeah, you're like you're you're
Speaker 1: doing a lot of walking with like funny movements in it.
Speaker 1: You're getting you're getting instruction. Yeah, you're being told, okay,
Speaker 1: you need to move over, and then you walk over
Speaker 1: to that spot. It's there.
Speaker 2: There's the first ten to twenty minutes or like high knees,
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying, Like it's that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff handball.
Speaker 1: When I mentioned Jason hates so when I mentioned toe
Speaker 1: touchies and things like that, But I mean.
Speaker 2: Listen, dynamic stretching and activations and all these things they
Speaker 2: happen on the field.
Speaker 1: They don't.
Speaker 2: You don't just come show up and be like all right,
Speaker 2: I'm ready. I mean, like I said, we used to
Speaker 2: play handball in college half the time as a warm
Speaker 2: up because it was just like a fun way to
Speaker 2: like get your body moving right, and yeah, we'd play
Speaker 2: that for ten minutes and then start kicking the ball around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that reminds me. Separate sidebar, how is how has
Speaker 1: Leonora Ryan navigated Helene? How are things from what you
Speaker 1: know up campus.
Speaker 2: So I know campus and Hickory is was mostly fine.
Speaker 2: They lost power for obvious reasons, but Hickory itself was
Speaker 2: pretty good. Now, like every county that touches Kataba to
Speaker 2: the north and west, we're not good. I think maybe
Speaker 2: Alexander County was okay but probably should have been washed away.
Speaker 2: But like you had Wataga and Leonore that I look
Speaker 2: Watagaan called, well, that got a little bad obviously. Wataggan
Speaker 2: is where Boone is an app state. You talked to
Speaker 2: Lees McCray up in Avery County. Beautiful campus. Shout out
Speaker 2: to Kelly who's the women's team coach there. She was
Speaker 2: the assistant coach at l R and I saw her
Speaker 2: over the summer for an ODP event.
Speaker 1: We we are, by the way, catching up with Taylor
Speaker 1: Morton at some point early here in the week to
Speaker 1: get a Lee's McCray update.
Speaker 2: Good because they were much more effective than Hickory. The
Speaker 2: Ashville campus that opened, I think last week. We have
Speaker 2: a Ashville campus. Well, we have a office building in Ashville.
Speaker 2: I think it's probably the campus, but that has been reopened.
Speaker 2: But I don't know what class looks like right now.
Speaker 2: But Hickory itself has been pretty pretty good. The whole
Speaker 2: lean issues.
Speaker 1: Okay, because our friends at Hickory FC, if you are
Speaker 1: so inclined, they do have a fundraiser going for the
Speaker 1: eight to eight and Hickory.
Speaker 2: Has kind of turned into, to be quite honest, a
Speaker 2: good dumping point, loading point maybe if you will, for
Speaker 2: a lot of the relief efforts, because it's one if
Speaker 2: you don't know, there's an airport in Hickory, and Hickory
Speaker 2: itself is again pretty pretty okay. Again, they lost power,
Speaker 2: there were trees down, but nothing major for the flooding.
Speaker 2: The major river that Hickory is on the is the
Speaker 2: Cataba and it's one damned at Lake Hickory. And two
Speaker 2: it's a big river, so you know, it's not overflowing
Speaker 2: like a lot of the small streams and creeks in
Speaker 2: the highland the high country. So Hickory mostly okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see. So I caught up with mcgierdano. They
Speaker 1: have relocated to Charlotte, I believe, and so that's where
Speaker 1: that's where soccer is. The other school the other programs
Speaker 1: on campus or at various other locations, but they have relocated.
Speaker 1: Others have relocated North to Fareham and Virginia. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to catch up with We're gonna catch up
Speaker 1: with Taylor at Lee's McCrae hopefully early part of the week,
Speaker 1: and we'll get an update with what's going on up there. Okay,
Speaker 1: So back from the sidebar, we have players who were
Speaker 1: rostered that are not going to be a part of
Speaker 1: your Double Jeopardy game in Mexico coming up this week.
Speaker 1: Christian Polisic, who got the assist, returned to ac Milan
Speaker 1: for what was termed load management. I feel like I
Speaker 1: need some kind of ominous background reverb there. Fosse Fosse,
Speaker 1: Fosse Fosse, McKinney, Peppy, and Stephan returned to their teams
Speaker 1: with minor injuries. Peppy was the only player who played
Speaker 1: against Panama. Say that ten times fast. No players have
Speaker 1: been added to the squad. The twenty available for Tuesday's
Speaker 1: match Horror Vast Sheltie, Turner, Lund m Mackenzie, Reem, Jedi, Miles,
Speaker 1: Scally and Trusty defense Aaronson, Busio, Morris Musa, Tessaman Tillman
Speaker 1: in the midfield, and only four forwards Sergeant Vasquez, Hodgie
Speaker 1: Wright and Alex endhas.
Speaker 2: Which is concerning because, uh, where are wingers?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Does that means that Telman and Aaron Cent are out
Speaker 2: for the winger position especially? I don't know if I
Speaker 2: trust alex and dehas to start for a national team,
Speaker 2: let alone start in Mexico. But I do like the
Speaker 2: idea of Brandon Vasquez starting in Mexico and scoring against Mexico.
Speaker 1: You just like you, just like Irony, that's all.
Speaker 2: I like justice?
Speaker 1: Okay. Oh, so you have the former Major League Soccer
Speaker 1: player now playing in Liga MX who could have played
Speaker 1: for one national team and is playing for the national
Speaker 1: team that's going to be visiting on tomorrow. So so
Speaker 1: the the circular logic that seems to be attached here
Speaker 1: is the intriguing part of all of this. But you
Speaker 1: you like justice, sir? Okay?
Speaker 2: All right? I do you know? And I think again
Speaker 2: a chance here for some of these guys. I mean,
Speaker 2: Sindjas has vast guys, has at least done enough to
Speaker 2: convince me that he belongs in the discussion for the
Speaker 2: national team. Zendejas has been he needs to start proving himself.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not enough to just be friends with
Speaker 2: Christian politic. You do need to start actually performing on
Speaker 2: the field in order for us to trust you.
Speaker 1: Okay, what is your what what is your vibe? Since
Speaker 1: this is a ViBe's based economy, with your double with
Speaker 1: your double Jeopardy game, your double points match as you
Speaker 1: as you have it registered here in trying to move
Speaker 1: up the standings in conky CAF, what is your vibe
Speaker 1: heading into this match with Mexico.
Speaker 2: Well, look, I think the unfortunate reality is us is
Speaker 2: at a great disadvantage and facing the possibility of losing
Speaker 2: to Mexico for the first time and oh a long
Speaker 2: time since twenty nineteen, I think. So you don't love that, right,
Speaker 2: but you also understand all the circumstances around it. So
Speaker 2: if you lose, if you go down to Mexico and
Speaker 2: you lose, it's not great, right, but you also have
Speaker 2: a chance to at least get a draw. Mexico is
Speaker 2: not a very good team. They're you know, they had
Speaker 2: a very bad last match against a club team that
Speaker 2: again you know was not old boy boy. And you
Speaker 2: know now is the time where again you have a
Speaker 2: new head coach, so you already have the pressure of
Speaker 2: making yourself known to this new coach, earning that trust
Speaker 2: of the new coach and showing that you belong here.
Speaker 2: On top of that, you have a lot of guys
Speaker 2: who wouldn't normally be ginning opportunities to start, right. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: Tanner Testament, John Lucapusio are not close to starting pecking
Speaker 2: order in this national team. But with all the injuries
Speaker 2: and players who had to go home, now they're looking
Speaker 2: at being starters and how do they show up in
Speaker 2: a game that means a whole lot. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: the number one rivalry in North America for a number
Speaker 2: of reasons. And you know we have not played. We
Speaker 2: don't play on the road often in friendly, so we
Speaker 2: know this. And now you get a chance to play
Speaker 2: in Mexico in a friendly for the first time in
Speaker 2: twelve years.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Last time you did it, you won, so if you
Speaker 2: want to continue to be part of history. And by
Speaker 2: the way, that that time that we went down there
Speaker 2: and won was not with a strong eleven or a
Speaker 2: strong squad either. I mean, brecksha was probably the best
Speaker 2: player on the team that that that squad, which yeah,
Speaker 2: Breckshay greatest player of all time I think in US, sir,
Speaker 2: But you know it's it definitely is. It's a good
Speaker 2: chance to prove that you belong, that you have what
Speaker 2: it takes to be part of the men's national team
Speaker 2: because part of being the men a part of being
Speaker 2: a part of the men's national team at this point
Speaker 2: in time is beating Mexico.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, no that is that is not open for
Speaker 1: a debate. No that I'm right there with the beat Mexico.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you got you gotta beat Mexico. All right, So, uh,
Speaker 1: thoughts plans all that kind of stuff, obviously with the
Speaker 1: match on Tuesday, sir, Let's see, So what are you
Speaker 1: up to Thursday morning?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll be in the office working is that I know?
Speaker 2: Come on, man, But Friday am at home?
Speaker 1: Okay, So then do you want to you want to
Speaker 1: come back on, you want to bet lead off on
Speaker 1: Friday ago, so we can put a bow on everything,
Speaker 1: all right. So this is what we call live scheduling.
Speaker 1: So Bart is going to look at Mexico, and so
Speaker 1: Bart's going to come on and bet lead off on
Speaker 1: Friday morning leading into beyond goals at nine thirty, and
Speaker 1: we'll discuss the vibes based economy that is attached to
Speaker 1: the US men's national team where you have drawn very
Speaker 1: well drawn photos pictures of Marsha Puchatina with the word
Speaker 1: believe underneath it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well look that's that's that's cool, right, Like I
Speaker 2: mean that, I think that speaks to the vibes around
Speaker 2: the too is there's just a lot of belief now
Speaker 2: that we have a coach that we believe.
Speaker 1: In vibes based economy.
Speaker 2: That's what rock CAF is a vibe based economy. And
Speaker 2: that's the thing. Right. The vibes are high for the US,
Speaker 2: They're not high for Mexico. Right, those vibes go get
Speaker 2: a win down in Mexico, and if you do that, John,
Speaker 2: you're looking at leaping Canada in the concor capp standings.
Speaker 2: I know we talked about this last week. If you
Speaker 2: get two wins this friendly window, you're for leaping Canada,
Speaker 2: like got to especially if you went in Mexico for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The other thing is John, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 2: if you have talked about it, but real quick Nations
Speaker 2: League ground up if you will let me. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you talked about CONCACAFF Nations League.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Interesting matchups coming up on Tuesday, right, League A, you
Speaker 2: have the two teams that matter because top two teams
Speaker 2: qualify for the the quarter finals. Yes, League A, Group
Speaker 2: A Guatemala on seven points, Costa Rica after a draw,
Speaker 2: serenaon on five points. You know who play. Those two
Speaker 2: teams play each other on Tuesday. Then in Group B
Speaker 2: Jamaica on seven points Honduras on six points. Those two
Speaker 2: teams play each other on the final match day. So
Speaker 2: that is some exciting stuff in the CONCA CAF Nations League. Again,
Speaker 2: those teams that finish top top two in the groups
Speaker 2: make the quarterfinals, and we'll be one of the four
Speaker 2: opponents that the US could possibly be paired with. Whether
Speaker 2: we're ranked two or three, who knows.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so that for those of you that are
Speaker 1: the true sickos, you could probably catch all of this
Speaker 1: stuff on paramount Plus. We'll get into that you can.
Speaker 1: Yes see, there you go.
Speaker 2: Costa Rica host Guatemala and Jamaica host Honduras. So the
Speaker 2: favorites do get the host in the final match day.
Speaker 2: Costa Rica obviously with the draw and Surna on probably
Speaker 2: not a deal. They do have to beat you know,
Speaker 2: they do have to win at home against Guatemala, to
Speaker 2: win the group, but I think any result pretty much
Speaker 2: guarantees them as a path forward if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: surn I'm with A with four points, they would have
Speaker 2: to I guess, so Costa Rica. Yeah, you're in a
Speaker 2: little trouble there. You do have to win at home
Speaker 2: on the final match day to guarantee yourself a spot
Speaker 2: in the nation's corner finals because Surnam hosts Guyana.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm Guyana zero one and two. They've given me
Speaker 1: rules in three matches, So.
Speaker 2: Careful there, Costa Rica. Careful there. Talk about his program
Speaker 2: that's kind of spiraled recently well.
Speaker 1: But I also think that when Kayler Novice is no
Speaker 1: longer in his mid to late thirties and he is
Speaker 1: still again still a tremendous keeper. But obviously you want
Speaker 1: to look in other directions when it comes to Costa
Speaker 1: Rica and how you want to stack things as you
Speaker 1: age out in your in your mind. So I think
Speaker 1: that that would be intriguing. Yeah, yes, absolutely. Group B
Speaker 1: by the way, Jamaica Honduras, and you end up with
Speaker 1: Nicaragua playing French Guyana. So Nicaragua by the way, at
Speaker 1: four points, if they win, then they go to seven.
Speaker 1: Jamaica Honduras, Jamaica Honduras.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nicoawa not out of the not out of it.
Speaker 2: But they do have to win.
Speaker 1: Gets yeah, got I got some, I got some work
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: So and then they have to not just win, but
Speaker 2: also hope that like you know, yeah, Jamaica Honduras TI there.
Speaker 1: Yeah and then but yeah, Jamaica Honduras tie. Then Nick,
Speaker 1: Nicaragua's out on goal difference because right now Honduras is
Speaker 1: at plus four and Nicaragua is at minus one. So
Speaker 1: for the true Sikos, uh, since you mentioned it, I'm
Speaker 1: going to league c oh well, where.
Speaker 2: Do we go?
Speaker 1: Barbados, Bahamas, US Virgin Islands, believee, Anguila, Turks and Caicos, St.
Speaker 1: Kittanivas Cayman's British Virgin Islands. That's the fun part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Barbados run, but Barbados running it up. Also Saint
Speaker 2: Kitts and Belieze running it up. Good for them those
Speaker 2: teams that does matter, they get automatic Oh crap, I
Speaker 2: did promoted placements to the which notepad is the sign
Speaker 2: play in and around, I want to say for Gold
Speaker 2: Cup because we have a playing around, a preliminary around
Speaker 2: and a group stage for Gold Cup next summer, and
Speaker 2: we still don't even know if it's all sixteen CONCACAFF teams. John,
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there will probably be some guests, you know,
Speaker 1: you know probably actually you know what they'll probably do
Speaker 1: is they'll probably have Messi and Friends be a guest
Speaker 1: team in concor CAF. Lord, all right, so we will
Speaker 1: we will watch your social media's at the soccer at
Speaker 1: soccer for US PO D and at Bartamus Prime nineteen,
Speaker 1: especially on Tuesday with the US playing Mexico.
Speaker 2: Late night, ten thirty st. John, that is.
Speaker 1: At the Estadio a Crone exactly. Uh. And then you'll
Speaker 1: be back to bet lead off on Friday morning to
Speaker 1: talk about all of it in the vibes based economy
Speaker 1: that is conker Caf. Be well, my friend, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna do reffing down here once you clear the decks,
Speaker 1: because we got yeah, we've got some college stuff to
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 2: And I saw Jason bemoaning college refereeing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's what it is. It is stuff to
Speaker 1: do with that, and we have a couple of incidents
Speaker 1: to back up the thought, and so we want to
Speaker 1: advance the game forward, and so we're sending up this
Speaker 1: flare and proposing an alternative or at least a suggestion
Speaker 1: to help things out.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, we always like to solutions, not just.
Speaker 1: Yes yes, So we're gonna we're gonna do some solutions
Speaker 1: solving here with reffing down here for this week. Be good,
Speaker 1: my friend, and I know that you'll be listening, so
Speaker 1: feel free to have your comments in the Twitch pitch
Speaker 1: with everybody else as we go through reffing down here
Speaker 1: for the remainder.
Speaker 2: The only one side Atlanta United comment today. So I
Speaker 2: think I did all right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, don't think I didn't hear it either, brother,
Speaker 1: Don't don't think I didn't nowhere it was. I I
Speaker 1: heard it. I heard it kind of buzz past it.
Speaker 1: I saw what was going on. But yeah, so if
Speaker 1: you if you wish to uh multitask and actually try
Speaker 1: and work and at the same time listen to what
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about in.
Speaker 2: From the time my work started blocking Twitch on my
Speaker 2: on our network. So I can watch you on YouTube, ye,
Speaker 2: well you can, yeah, harder for the the they don't
Speaker 2: like all the comments that I leave.
Speaker 1: Well, but well then you can also watch on Twitter
Speaker 1: and leave comments.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm not logged into Twitter on my work
Speaker 2: computer either, so.
Speaker 1: That's okay on you. So that's how I all right,
Speaker 1: So then watch on YouTube and comment there. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll see you on Friday, by y'all. All right, that's Bart.
Speaker 1: And so Bart is going to listen to this next
Speaker 1: segment and it has to do with reffing down here,
Speaker 1: and it does have to do with a technically and
Speaker 1: actually it's two moments in the Sundalt Conference, one directly
Speaker 1: involving Jason that he we saw on the weekend and
Speaker 1: then another from late September, and so what we're going
Speaker 1: to do for those who missed it. Both of these
Speaker 1: are courtesy of our friends at ESPN Plus and the
Speaker 1: Sundal Conference. So yesterday there was a moment in the
Speaker 1: Georgia State match with Old Dominion and it is about
Speaker 1: two and a half minutes worth a tape. It's worth
Speaker 1: it to get the full listen. And this is from
Speaker 1: the broadcast, and so you might have to picture television
Speaker 1: because there are some references to video and what can
Speaker 1: be done here, But I will play this block. And
Speaker 1: then there's another incident that we need to get into
Speaker 1: from late September from James Madison and Old Dominion that
Speaker 1: we need to get into and it has to do
Speaker 1: with a couple of different things. So we'll go through
Speaker 1: both of these moments in both of these situations. So David,
Speaker 1: here's so we're gonna break this down. So David was
Speaker 1: there yesterday, he saw it, Jason called it, and so
Speaker 1: here's what happened late in the match. So, first off,
Speaker 1: Georgia State was down, Georgia State was down one nil.
Speaker 1: They came back to take a two to one lead
Speaker 1: with about two minutes to go. Then with about two
Speaker 1: minutes to go in the match, you end up with
Speaker 1: this incident slash moment as it happened once again courtesy
Speaker 1: of our friends at ESPN Plus and the Sundalk Conference.
Speaker 1: This is Jason's call from Georgia State in Old Dominion
Speaker 1: yesterday to run over top of the eighteen. Nothing called
Speaker 1: couple of deflections. Gotta get cleared now. Wilson tried to
Speaker 1: clear it.
Speaker 5: Old Dominion wants a handball and the referee is gonna
Speaker 5: go look at it.
Speaker 1: Brook Nelson was trying to clear it. Tucker was pushed
Speaker 1: over at the top of the eighteen at the start
Speaker 1: of the entire sequence. You can see Ed Joyce asking
Speaker 1: why don't you call the first one. We're getting to
Speaker 1: look at it now. Nelson tries to clear it's off
Speaker 1: the side of Diaz. That is not a handball. The
Speaker 1: fact that the referee is going to look at it.
Speaker 1: He didn't call it in live action. That's off of
Speaker 1: her back. That is not a handball. Replay is not
Speaker 1: supposed to be used to re referee situations. He waves
Speaker 1: it off. You could see it right there in that replay.
Speaker 1: He waved it off. He gets talked into going to
Speaker 1: look at it. They don't have our angles, as a
Speaker 1: reminder he in this one, they have what is commonly
Speaker 1: known as a coaching camera, So you're not gonna have
Speaker 1: the angle we just had. If this gets overturned because
Speaker 1: it was not called as a handball on the field,
Speaker 1: We'll try to give you a little bit of a
Speaker 1: simulation of what it could look like to the referee.
Speaker 1: But right now, it looks like he's trying to find
Speaker 1: something in it that's not there. You see the arm
Speaker 1: go up, and that can fool you. We showed you
Speaker 1: a very close up angle and you can see that
Speaker 1: it hits her side penalty is given. You might want
Speaker 1: to turn the crowd mikes down because I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear what Joyce has to say about that one,
Speaker 1: because I have a feeling I know what he has
Speaker 1: to say. This team cannot catch a break. In twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, was a foul on Snea Tucker at the
Speaker 1: top of the eighteen that was not called, and then
Speaker 1: a handball is given. That is not a handball. Raya
Speaker 1: Kiowski goes to the spot for old dominion. One minute
Speaker 1: left on the clock. Kioski versus fos Kioski scores to two. Okay,
Speaker 1: first and foremost, that was the call. Secondarily, I hope
Speaker 1: Jada Fuss didn't hurt her left foot because she kicked
Speaker 1: the goalpost to the near side after the after the
Speaker 1: ball went through. So two to two at that point.
Speaker 1: So what you had was a center ref. And like
Speaker 1: I told you at the beginning of the show, I
Speaker 1: purposely left out any reference of the center re f.
Speaker 1: I did not track down the individual's name. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to look at the crew because that's not Germane.
Speaker 1: To the conversation, the names are not Germane. To the KNA,
Speaker 1: the call is and the activity is, so, here's what
Speaker 1: you had happened. You had no call of a handball
Speaker 1: live in play. So and on the ESPN Plus broadcast
Speaker 1: they go through and you see that the ball hits
Speaker 1: the Georgia State player basically under the arm and literally
Speaker 1: on your your lat, the big back muscle that you
Speaker 1: have side of the body, the intersection of the right
Speaker 1: right underneath the arm. It did not even touch the
Speaker 1: left arm, and so it hits. It hits the player
Speaker 1: right there on the edge where the LAT hooks around
Speaker 1: and connects to the front of the body. Then the
Speaker 1: referee is convinced to look at the incident, after calling,
Speaker 1: after after calling no call, after waving something off live,
Speaker 1: then somehow they are convinced to go and look at
Speaker 1: the call. And as Jason made the point on the
Speaker 1: air yesterday, at the venue, they have the coach's camera,
Speaker 1: you know, like the thing that kind of looks like
Speaker 1: a cell tower, And depending on which model you get,
Speaker 1: it's anywhere from say twelve to fifteen feet in the air,
Speaker 1: and it gives you the really wide all twenty two traditionally,
Speaker 1: depending on the individual and the home team as to
Speaker 1: how tight it is shot, how far up in the air,
Speaker 1: it is positioning and all that kind of stuff. So
Speaker 1: you had a referee who no called a handball situation live.
Speaker 1: They were talked into looking at the play and you
Speaker 1: look at it from the coaches camp, the spidio, the
Speaker 1: spider can that they have up top. Then after looking
Speaker 1: at the replay from that ALL twenty two, and I
Speaker 1: think I'm one hundred and twenty percent certain that the
Speaker 1: production crew at Georgia State, and by the way, they
Speaker 1: did a bang up job in lining everything up as
Speaker 1: to what was the alleged infraction and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. They did a really good job of walking
Speaker 1: through the situation that was not what was viewed. What
Speaker 1: was viewed was the ALL twenty two coaches camp. Center
Speaker 1: f looks at that re referees his own call, sees
Speaker 1: that it's a penalty, goes to the spot, Old Dominion
Speaker 1: ties it it to and that eventually ends up being
Speaker 1: a two two draw. Now I'm going to take you
Speaker 1: back to September twenty ninth, and it was a game
Speaker 1: involving Old Dominion and James Madison. Old Dominion and James Madison,
Speaker 1: with twenty six minutes left on the clock, have a
Speaker 1: stoppage in play, and if I played this entire exchange,
Speaker 1: it would be about seven minutes. It is a seven
Speaker 1: minute delay. First and foremost that happened with James Madison
Speaker 1: and Old Dominion as the production crew at James Madison
Speaker 1: is following a throw in and as you're watching picture
Speaker 1: of the monitor in your mind's eye, activity is going
Speaker 1: from left to right. Throw in is paused for something
Speaker 1: that happened off camera, and it goes to once again review.
Speaker 1: But the review is once again not off of the
Speaker 1: television production camera, but off of the spider the spide
Speaker 1: of the coaches cam, the cell tower that you see
Speaker 1: if you go and watch a college soccer match. So
Speaker 1: Center Ref goes and tries to look at the play
Speaker 1: as it was shot on the coach's camera. After the
Speaker 1: initial review, Center Ref wanders over to James Madison because
Speaker 1: the foul was lined up to be on Old Dominion,
Speaker 1: and once again Old Dominion was down three to two.
Speaker 1: At this point they were down three to zero, came
Speaker 1: back to go to three to two, twenty six oh
Speaker 1: three left on the clock. Clock stops. So after the
Speaker 1: initial review off of the spider cam, Center Ref goes
Speaker 1: over to James Madison's coach and looked like he was
Speaker 1: about to make his decision. James Mann Madison's coach becomes
Speaker 1: very very demonstrative and see and tells the center f
Speaker 1: there's an elbow. And you can see in the description
Speaker 1: and you can see in the ESPN feed that you
Speaker 1: have the James Madison coaches and they're looking and they're
Speaker 1: trying to basically zipproo of the whole thing. They're going
Speaker 1: backward and they're trying to find the moment where they
Speaker 1: believe the infraction happened. James Madison's coach literally, as the
Speaker 1: center ref is walking to him to explain what he
Speaker 1: thought he saw, the James Madison coach is saying there
Speaker 1: was an elbow. So after the proposed and presumed initial decision,
Speaker 1: and the James Madison coach re emphasizes it was an elbow,
Speaker 1: and you see the James Madison coach literally wind up
Speaker 1: and take his elbow backward from the end zone camera
Speaker 1: on the TV production side that the center ref goes
Speaker 1: back to the coach's cam and then once again, after
Speaker 1: looking at it for minutes, and the old Dominion coaching
Speaker 1: staff comes over and is wondering what's going on, especially
Speaker 1: after center F appeared to have made a decision, then
Speaker 1: is basically convinced to go back by the historyonics of
Speaker 1: in the motions of the James Madison coach. He goes
Speaker 1: back to look at the spider cam video, then comes
Speaker 1: back after watching, after being encouraged what to look for,
Speaker 1: apparently saw what the James Madison coach encouraged him to
Speaker 1: look for, came out, gave the Old Dominion player a
Speaker 1: red card, and so Old Dominion down a goal is
Speaker 1: now officially down a player with twenty six minutes to go.
Speaker 1: This is a seven minute delay. In all of this
Speaker 1: seven minute delay and as I was looking at this yesterday,
Speaker 1: as I was looking at it yesterday, that was, you know,
Speaker 1: another incident inside the eighteen David. I know, I see
Speaker 1: you looking at stuff in the twitch pitch and we'll
Speaker 1: get to that in just a second. So short version
Speaker 1: made longer with James Madison and Old Dominion that James
Speaker 1: Madison infraction off camera from the TV production side. Center
Speaker 1: F goes looks at the spider cam, looked like he
Speaker 1: didn't see anything, wants to come over to the James
Speaker 1: Madison coach to explain himself. James Madison coach motions that
Speaker 1: there was an elbow center. F goes Back apparently saw
Speaker 1: it the second time after being encouraged to look for
Speaker 1: it by the James Madison coach. Old dominion player gets
Speaker 1: a yellow up, gets a red card, straight red, and
Speaker 1: then down three to two Old for the final twenty
Speaker 1: six minutes at James Madison is having to fight down
Speaker 1: a man. The conversation was overheard on the sideline. Savannah
Speaker 1: Wilkerson is your sideline reporter at James Madison. Here is
Speaker 1: her breakdown of what the conversation was between the two
Speaker 1: head coaches during this entire review. So here's what Savannah
Speaker 1: Wilkerson heard and reported to the booth after all of
Speaker 1: this discussion happened once again courtesy of our friends at
Speaker 1: the Sun Belton ESPN plus.
Speaker 6: Let's throw it back down to the field, Savannah, what
Speaker 6: did you see with all of that going on during
Speaker 6: the review.
Speaker 7: So the main reason that coach Hind was so upset
Speaker 7: is because Coach Walters is the one who made that
Speaker 7: call and she kept saying that you are not a ref.
Speaker 7: Coach Walters responded by saying, that's fine, but the ref
Speaker 7: just needs to see it. He can make his own decision,
Speaker 7: but he needs to see it. Coach Heine responded by saying,
Speaker 7: he had already made his decision. That's why she's so upset.
Speaker 7: And she said it was absolutely ridiculous and not fair
Speaker 7: and not right.
Speaker 1: So that was the play by play of Savannah Wilkerson,
Speaker 1: who was the sideline reporter for James Madison during this
Speaker 1: coming together for everything involving James Madison in Old Dominion.
Speaker 1: So once again, let me replay it for you. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna replay what Savannah Wilkerson said in her sideline reporting
Speaker 1: between the two head coaches one more time.
Speaker 6: Let's throw it back down to the field. Savannah, what
Speaker 6: did you see with all of that going on during
Speaker 6: the review?
Speaker 7: So the main reason that Coach Hine was so upset
Speaker 7: is because Coach Walters is the one who made that call,
Speaker 7: and she kept saying that you are not a ref.
Speaker 7: Coach Walters responded by saying, that's fine, but the ref
Speaker 7: just needs to see it. He can make his own decision,
Speaker 7: but he needs to see it. Coach Heine responded by
Speaker 7: saying he had already made his decision. That's why she's
Speaker 7: so upset. And she said it was absolutely ridiculous and
Speaker 7: not fair and not right.
Speaker 1: So the ref needs to see it was the convincing
Speaker 1: element by the James Madison coach. The ref needs to
Speaker 1: see it. That goes to influence, that goes to re
Speaker 1: refereeing and steering and a whole bunch of other things.
Speaker 1: So with those two instances in the sun Belt, one
Speaker 1: back on September twenty ninth, and the other one yesterday,
Speaker 1: David so David said, did the hand to call handball
Speaker 1: or the other coming together at the top of the eighteen.
Speaker 1: This was after the first incident. This was with about
Speaker 1: two minutes to go in the GSU match, and it
Speaker 1: was literally let go on the field, literally the well
Speaker 1: and the David. You don't recall the David didn't recall
Speaker 1: the gesture from the official. It didn't happen, did not
Speaker 1: happen live. The element and the incident did not happen
Speaker 1: live in the GSU game. So what you had in
Speaker 1: both of these instances is a center ref convinced to
Speaker 1: re referee a match yesterday at Georgia State ref didn't
Speaker 1: call it live, did not call the handball live, and
Speaker 1: it wasn't a handball period. It was not a handball,
Speaker 1: and for those of you that have ESPN plus, I
Speaker 1: would recommend going back and literally just go to the
Speaker 1: last two minutes. Let's start with four, because then it's
Speaker 1: the equalizer, and then you get to see the context
Speaker 1: and the incident. In James Madison and Old Dominion, I
Speaker 1: don't know how long replays are up traditionally, but I
Speaker 1: was still able to go back and access it back
Speaker 1: on September twenty ninth. The gesture from the field during
Speaker 1: live did not happen, So David, you were there, you
Speaker 1: didn't see it. You and everybody else. This goes to
Speaker 1: larger points. Both of these incidents lead to larger points
Speaker 1: that we wanted to kind of let you know about here.
Speaker 1: One it's about re refereeing, and that should not be
Speaker 1: in a position A referee should be confident enough, or
Speaker 1: at least, if you want to use the word stubborn,
Speaker 1: they should be locked into the idea of my call
Speaker 1: is my call, and I will not be convinced otherwise.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter who it is unless it's another official. It
Speaker 1: was not an official in either case that had any
Speaker 1: that encouraged any re refereeing in the Georgia State game.
Speaker 1: It was called live, there was no handball call. Then
Speaker 1: convinced to go to a monitor and then from a
Speaker 1: camera angle and a rundown that was and just angles
Speaker 1: in general that were far worse than you could have
Speaker 1: gotten otherwise. You decide to re referee a call with
Speaker 1: a worse camera angle looking at something off of an iPad.
Speaker 1: In instance number one, instance number two, you have a
Speaker 1: call or you don't have a call. And the call
Speaker 1: happened in the ODU James Madison match off camera from
Speaker 1: the television production perspective, So center f goes off field.
Speaker 1: Nothing's happening. There was no call in the initial build
Speaker 1: up of the play. It was supposed to be just
Speaker 1: an ordinary throw. And with twenty six oh three encounting,
Speaker 1: you hear, you get a whistle, then you end up
Speaker 1: with a review. Then you believe. And like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm and I'm watching the JMU Old Dominion match over
Speaker 1: and you see, literally it looks like the center ref
Speaker 1: looks like he has something in mind, and it looks
Speaker 1: like he's about to go to the JMU coach. Then
Speaker 1: the JMU coach becomes more elevated in his emotion and
Speaker 1: said and with his right arm and elbow, it's like
Speaker 1: it was an elbow. So then the center ref, after
Speaker 1: being lobbied by the JMU coach, goes back to the
Speaker 1: monitor and I guess he saw it, saw something akin
Speaker 1: to it as he tried to ziprooder the thing, and
Speaker 1: then you end up with the straight red card for
Speaker 1: Old Dominion. And this is both Both of these calls
Speaker 1: were viewed from the spider cams from the coach cameras.
Speaker 1: They were not viewed from the television production aspect of it.
Speaker 1: In the Georgia State Old Dominion game, GSU's production crew,
Speaker 1: they were all over it, absolutely all over it. In
Speaker 1: James Madison and Old Dominion, the TV crew from James
Speaker 1: Madison didn't have it. It was off camera, so you're
Speaker 1: relying on the spider cam, the coaches camera, the all
Speaker 1: twenty two to give you something. So you had in
Speaker 1: one match worse angles and you re refereed something that
Speaker 1: you didn't call live in the ear In the earlier example,
Speaker 1: you go to the spider cam because TV didn't have it.
Speaker 1: You re referee a call after your initial thought was
Speaker 1: one thing. Then somehow center ref is talked into going
Speaker 1: back to look at the tape. Hey, no, you're looking
Speaker 1: for this. So it was seven minute delay in JMU
Speaker 1: and ODU and a call. Then both calls should not
Speaker 1: have been made. And so David, I think is going
Speaker 1: back and shuttling through ESPN plus as we're looking. So
Speaker 1: David clear and obvious questions, clearly, but not still made it.
Speaker 1: First he thought the ref was going to talk to
Speaker 1: the fourth and then he went to the baby monitor,
Speaker 1: who's a GSU goald a minute thirty four to go,
Speaker 1: PK awarded at a minute left, frantic and fund last
Speaker 1: five minutes behind the gold gssue camera crew certainly had
Speaker 1: a better angle and clearance off of a clearance off
Speaker 1: a teammate. So we had two instances of re refereeing
Speaker 1: that first and foremost should not happen period. Referee should
Speaker 1: be confident in their calls. Don't let anybody in the
Speaker 1: outside noise that's not wearing the same color jersey that
Speaker 1: you are force you into thinking something. No One wearing
Speaker 1: a logo of a participating team should talk you back
Speaker 1: into looking at something. But that's what happened in JAMU
Speaker 1: and O to you, someone with a logo talked to
Speaker 1: a center ref yesterday at Georgia State and was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know you've got to look at this. Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I think I'll look at it. I said, we don't
Speaker 1: know the thought processes of both of these officiating crews,
Speaker 1: but the bottom line is that two plays were re refereed,
Speaker 1: and you need to be confident in your own calls.
Speaker 1: And now to my other point. My other point is this,
Speaker 1: if you have television production cameras at an event, and
Speaker 1: we know that everything is streamed these days on ESPN
Speaker 1: Plus or Flow or whatever, make sure, and this should
Speaker 1: be a mandate, make sure that the review as it
Speaker 1: is being looked at by the officiating crew is the
Speaker 1: television production crew and that feed and not just the
Speaker 1: spider can. I would have both of them available downstairs.
Speaker 1: And this is the larger point other than re refereeing
Speaker 1: on the field with human beings, So re refereeing as
Speaker 1: human beings. Be confident in your own call. Don't let
Speaker 1: somebody with a logo that's not yours have you go
Speaker 1: back and look at something. Your call should be your call.
Speaker 1: The fact in the GSU game that you didn't call
Speaker 1: something live and got talked into re referring something looking
Speaker 1: at a monitor that was nowhere close to a handball,
Speaker 1: and you're looking at it from an angle that wasn't
Speaker 1: even the best available or the best shot. What should
Speaker 1: happen in these instances is this, and I would hope
Speaker 1: that this is something that has looked at going forward,
Speaker 1: that both video signals are available to that iPad, baby monitor,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it for center refs for review.
Speaker 1: So if TV in the old Dominion James Madison case,
Speaker 1: they didn't have it, so then you go to spider
Speaker 1: Camp to see if it's worth anything, worth any cat
Speaker 1: of a look. If it's there, then you can take
Speaker 1: a peek at it. If both of them have it,
Speaker 1: that you can defer to the television production signal, And
Speaker 1: all that should be is just running another video cable
Speaker 1: into that baby monitor and changing your input literally another
Speaker 1: video cable into the back of that monitor, or have
Speaker 1: another video HDMI cable available. You can swap it out
Speaker 1: and sit there and go, okay, a you unplug it,
Speaker 1: plug it back in, have someone from the production crew
Speaker 1: sit there and get it all squared away. Change an
Speaker 1: input function. That way, you've got spider Cam available on
Speaker 1: one input, TV production available on another, and if it
Speaker 1: just so happens that communication from the table goes back
Speaker 1: to the production, the production crew, Hey, centerf wants to
Speaker 1: see this, then the TV production can send a feed
Speaker 1: or in real time as it's being broadcast. If you
Speaker 1: can't send a separate feed, go back and have them
Speaker 1: look at what happened. Both video feeds need to be
Speaker 1: available for refereeing crews, and like I said, with as
Speaker 1: many games as they're being broadcasts now these days on
Speaker 1: streaming services and what have you, I would think that
Speaker 1: cameras might be easily accessible or easier accessible in these situations.
Speaker 1: Have both video feeds available and the other element, as
Speaker 1: David says, clear and obvious. I'd love to know how
Speaker 1: in each of these cases. The call on the Georgia
Speaker 1: State game was clear and obvious off of a spider can,
Speaker 1: and I'd love to know how the call in the
Speaker 1: James Madison Old Dominion game was clear and obvious off
Speaker 1: a spider cam. And if you don't don't have clear
Speaker 1: and obvious, then by the nature of video review, it's
Speaker 1: left alone. Video review is inconclusive. My call stands. So
Speaker 1: that's what we wanted to bring to the table this morning.
Speaker 1: Make sure and like I said, I don't think you
Speaker 1: can do anything this year, but I'm fairly certain, being
Speaker 1: the optimist that I am down the line, that there
Speaker 1: will be a moment in a game of import, whether
Speaker 1: it is in a conference tournament or a national tournament,
Speaker 1: on some level somewhere where you will have this kind
Speaker 1: of a situation. You hope you don't, but in this
Speaker 1: kind of a situation going forward, I would like to
Speaker 1: think that you could have just a separate input, just
Speaker 1: jam a separate input to a monitor, change your input
Speaker 1: function on the remote control so you can see spider
Speaker 1: cam and television production. And like I said, if it's
Speaker 1: only if it's done live on the air, because you
Speaker 1: can't route a separate video input to the VAR monitor
Speaker 1: that you would that would be going out over the air.
Speaker 1: Have the play by play announcers sit there and say, hey,
Speaker 1: center ref has requested that we show our angles of
Speaker 1: the play. Make sure that that is available to the
Speaker 1: center f because that makes the that makes it easier
Speaker 1: to monitor. So it's two points that we wanted to
Speaker 1: bring about here with the college game today. Re refereeing
Speaker 1: something live and the clear and obvious nature of VAR
Speaker 1: and only having the spider cam available to you. If
Speaker 1: it's not clear and obvious, which unless the this person
Speaker 1: shooting the spider cam is really good at what they're
Speaker 1: doing and you can see intentionality, then initial call stands
Speaker 1: leave it alone. Nothing like getting emails while you're doing
Speaker 1: a show. So that's what we wanted to bring up
Speaker 1: this morning to wrap up the show. Two instances of
Speaker 1: re referering live and the reviews with spider cams that
Speaker 1: need to be done in a more technically advanced manner.
Speaker 1: Have both the television production signal available and the spider
Speaker 1: cam available so you can compare and contrast off of
Speaker 1: separate inputs. And then if one doesn't have it and
Speaker 1: the other isn't clear and obvious, play should be left alone.
Speaker 1: But referees re refereing calls live after going to the monitor.
Speaker 1: Keep all of this in mind going forward. We'll be
Speaker 1: vigilant about it too, but we need to have both
Speaker 1: video signal options available in college soccer as best we can.
Speaker 1: And if it isn't clear and obvious, it's not clear
Speaker 1: and obvious, it can't be reversed. So the re refereeing
Speaker 1: of an idea stops in its tracks right there. Huh,
Speaker 1: So that was a longer version of reffing down here
Speaker 1: this morning, just letting you know about things that we're
Speaker 1: seeing and how things probably should change, but only for
Speaker 1: the betterment of the game. So, like I said, it
Speaker 1: just happened. There no all colleges that got it. Like
Speaker 1: the old big biggie six fouls before fouling out rules.
Speaker 1: I know I remember that too. But clear and obvious
Speaker 1: spider cam TV production cam availability and re refereeing something live,
Speaker 1: that's what we wanted to get into this morning. In
Speaker 1: the college game, be confident in your calls, and then
Speaker 1: let your initial call stand even if you're not confident
Speaker 1: in it. And don't let somebody in a logo sit
Speaker 1: there and say, hey, you've got to go look at
Speaker 1: this because XYZ. Unless that logo is the same color
Speaker 1: jersey that you are, and you're the one with the
Speaker 1: whistle and the book and the cards, your call is
Speaker 1: your call. But let the TV production signal be available
Speaker 1: to the baby monitor off a separate input. And if
Speaker 1: it has to be a separate monitor that you're running
Speaker 1: a video cable toward, then so be it. But it
Speaker 1: should be just as simple as changing an inputdinkdink, remote control. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that was where we wanted to go this morning
Speaker 1: with that. What to watch, where to watch it, how
Speaker 1: to watch it. Soccer on TV, College Soccer for Today,
Speaker 1: High Point and pit Acc Extra, Suffolk in BC on
Speaker 1: ACC Extra, Newman and Lesals on ESPN plus, Women BYU
Speaker 1: and Kansas State that is at eight o'clock tonight on
Speaker 1: ESPN Plus as well. So the soccer on the TV.
Speaker 1: Three games in the NWSL, you've got Nations League all
Speaker 1: that stuff. Nations League Group play on FS two at noon, Georgia, Albania,
Speaker 1: Belgium and Fence at two forty five, Fox Soccer Plus,
Speaker 1: Awser Baijan, Slovakia at noon, Ukraine Czech Republic at two
Speaker 1: forty five. Nations League play but on Paramount Plus. And
Speaker 1: that's where the rest of it is. Currasau, Grenada, Puerto Rico,
Speaker 1: Sint Martin at four, Saint Lucius, Saint Martin and Saint
Speaker 1: Martin at Sint Martin, but Saint Martin, he Haiti and
Speaker 1: Aruba at eight, Jamaica, Honduras, Dicaragua, French, Guiana, Trinidad, Tobago,
Speaker 1: Cuba all at So that's your rundown of everything to
Speaker 1: watch today. Thanks for hanging out with us. And I
Speaker 1: know that we go down roads sometimes that that are
Speaker 1: kind of long and windy. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: if the game's going to grow and we're all going
Speaker 1: to continue to enjoy it, reffing down here has to
Speaker 1: happen as a segment and just as kind of like
Speaker 1: an introduction, because if it's something that you might see
Speaker 1: down the line, you'll go, oh, yeah, I remember this,
Speaker 1: but probably something toward the postseason this year or next season.
Speaker 1: Having a separate video signal available to center refs, not
Speaker 1: just the Spider, can make sure they can see TV
Speaker 1: production as well. The whole re refereeing aspect is also
Speaker 1: well part of it too. But there you go. Thanks
Speaker 1: to Bart, thanks to Abe, and thanks to all of you.
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Speaker 1: it again a little less than twenty two and we'll
Speaker 1: talk about stuff, and that's the official term. We got
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to get into tomorrow. Get you
Speaker 1: ready for match day thirty four. Talk about stuff in
Speaker 1: the lower divisions, talk about what's going on Western North Carolina,
Speaker 1: all across the board, all the different places, and it's
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