WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.359 Now we're going to go straight to the phones. She's 2 00:00:02.359 --> 00:00:05.599 calling from the belly of the beast, where what thresh 3 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:09.480 hell is being cooked up for? Colorado Senator State Senator 4 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:12.960 Barb Kirkmeyer. How are things going up there? It's been 5 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:16.239 a few days now, what's already been ruined? I mean, 6 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:17.359 that's just the way I'm looking at it. 7 00:00:17.399 --> 00:00:18.000 I'm just kidding. 8 00:00:19.559 --> 00:00:22.519 No, Actually, you shouldn't be looking at you should be 9 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:23.359 looking at it that way. 10 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:26.640 So what are some of the things I understand that 11 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:31.960 the Democrats are unveiling. They're housing affordability plan today, And 12 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:36.119 anytime Democrats talk about affordability, I grab my wallet. Okay, 13 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:38.880 because they've done nothing but make things more expensive here. 14 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:42.200 Would you know the details of this housing affordability plan? 15 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:42.880 Yet? 16 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:47.399 Nope, they don't tell us until they unveil it. They're 17 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:49.399 not really good at stakeholdering. They're not really good at 18 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:51.759 telling us, you know, the minority party, what's going on. 19 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:55.200 So we'll hear about it more, you know, this afternoon. 20 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:56.439 I guess that's good point. 21 00:00:56.719 --> 00:01:02.039 Let's talk about Republican you know, priorities in this legislative session. 22 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:04.280 I hate to say it, not that they matter that 23 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:07.519 much because you guys put bill after bill after bill, 24 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:10.120 and they get killed in committee after committee after committee. 25 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:14.840 Let's start with any area where there may be bipartisan cooperation. 26 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:17.120 Do we have anything that we can look at now 27 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:18.840 and say, yes, we're going to work together and make 28 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:19.359 that happen. 29 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:24.599 Not that I see, I mean, I just have the 30 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:26.640 list of bills. So here's what happens. You know, in 31 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:29.200 the first few days, the first couple of weeks or so, here, 32 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:33.840 we'll be introducing up to three hundred bills. The legislators 33 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:36.439 get to carry five bills. Your first three are due, 34 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:39.200 you know, by the before session even starts. You've got 35 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:41.000 to get them in and then we start reading them 36 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:43.640 across the desk and they start getting scheduled for hearing. 37 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:46.000 So within the first couple of weeks, we have three 38 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:48.680 hundred bills that are introduced. I don't know that they 39 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:50.840 all get they all won't get heard right away, but 40 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:54.040 you know that's what we're doing. So we're in here 41 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:57.519 looking at the bills that are introduced. And you know, 42 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:01.359 even though there's all these huge calls for by partisanship, 43 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:03.359 you know, on first day and everybody's supposed to go 44 00:02:03.400 --> 00:02:07.079 wrong and be buddies with everybody. Most of the bills 45 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:10.360 that get introduced first are pretty much all partisan bills, 46 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:14.400 all Democrat bills. And it's not so much what new 47 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:16.439 fresh things are going to do to us this year, 48 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:18.759 it's what old things are they bringing them back and 49 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:19.479 making worse. 50 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:21.680 Tell me about some of those, because I think I 51 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:23.800 know some of them already. I know that they're trying 52 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:26.560 to up end the Labor Peace Act as a giveaway 53 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:27.280 to the unions. 54 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:32.599 Absolutely, that one's coming back, and it just again rewrites 55 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:35.439 the Colorado Labor's Peace Act. And you know, here's the thing, 56 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:38.039 it's the Peace Act and it's been working for like 57 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:40.240 sixty years. I don't know why they have to mess 58 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:42.680 with it other than they want to make their unions happy. 59 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:46.080 But you know, they're just trying to strengthen union leverage. 60 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:48.479 So that one is coming back. It doesn't look like 61 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:51.199 they made much changes from last year. I think to me, 62 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:54.000 one of the concerns that's coming back, it's Senate Bill 63 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:58.120 twenty six eighteen, which they labeled it Minor Identity and 64 00:02:58.240 --> 00:02:59.439 Parenting Decisions. 65 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:01.680 What is that? That's as horrible? 66 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:04.759 I call it the War on Parents two point zero. 67 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:06.879 If you remember last year we had House Build twenty 68 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:11.719 five thirteen twelve, which was about misgendering and dead naming. 69 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:15.039 This one kind of picked up on that, and basically 70 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:19.240 it says that your parenting time and your decision making authority, 71 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:21.199 you know, like let's say you're in a custody case 72 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:25.599 type thing and your child, who maybe other parents has 73 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:28.520 taken care of, has changed their identity, they become a 74 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:32.840 protected class, and if you don't agree to it, then 75 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:38.120 your custody decisions, your parenting time, you could be penalized. 76 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:40.439 You know, I kind of don't. 77 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:45.360 We're seeing the numbers when it comes to trans identification 78 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:49.199 dropping like a rock among younger generations. So the trans 79 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:51.560 you know, craze or whatever you want to call it, 80 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:54.560 the trans situation we've been going through seems to be 81 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:57.400 sort of you know, ebbing at this point in time. 82 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:01.639 And what I find remarkable is that they're not even 83 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:04.520 trying to hide it, barb. I mean, they're literally saying, 84 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:08.520 if you don't agree with what we say about your kid, 85 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:12.840 then we're going to curtail your parenting time. And I've 86 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:14.879 seen so many of these custody stories where you have 87 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:17.920 a lunatic mom who decided the kid was trans when 88 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:19.839 they were eighteen months old, and you have a dad 89 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:23.319 going no, no, no, and the dad loses custody. I mean, 90 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:28.000 this is just it's so egregious, and yet they honestly 91 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:31.839 don't see anything wrong with these positions because they just 92 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:34.800 blatantly just here we go, We're just gonna we're gonna 93 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:37.120 take away your parental rights if you disagree with the 94 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:41.319 states take on what your kid needs. 95 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:44.240 That's exactly right. I mean this one, it's it's a mandate. 96 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:47.560 It requires courts that when they're determining parent in time 97 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:51.000 that they have to consider whether a parent affirms the 98 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:52.120 child's identity. 99 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:54.759 How is that not a violation of free speech? 100 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:56.920 I mean, I if I'm a parent that finds myself 101 00:04:56.920 --> 00:05:01.000 in this situation, I'm suing because they're forced me to 102 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:05.439 engage in state in state for speech. If I don't 103 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:08.079 believe that my kid is trans, and the state says 104 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:10.079 the only way you can have parenting time is if 105 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:14.040 you say that you believe that your kids are trands. 106 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:18.040 That's compelled speech. That's pretty clearly a violation of the 107 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:18.680 First Amendment. 108 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:20.399 In my view, it. 109 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:22.680 Appears to me. But you know, the thing is parenting 110 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:25.959 time should really be decided by safety and stability, not 111 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:29.560 you know, whether parents comply with government approved belief And 112 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:31.879 that's what's going on here. So this will be a 113 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:34.079 fight on House floor, it'll be a fight on the 114 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:36.040 Senate floor. We'll see what the governor is going to 115 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:38.759 do this year, because last year he threatened vetoed, but 116 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:40.560 then they sort of kind of amended the bill and 117 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:42.560 he went ahead and finned it. So that's how I 118 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:44.519 call it the war on parents two point zero. They're 119 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:47.120 just going to keep up with saying that government's going 120 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:49.000 to decide how your children are raised and they'll decide 121 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:50.399 how much time you get to spend with them. 122 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:52.879 So let me ask about something you and I have 123 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:55.759 spoken about before. We talked about it before the special session. 124 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:58.839 You wanted the governor to address it in the special session, 125 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:02.079 and it has to do with the competency rules. We've 126 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:06.680 seen multiple high profile cases where people were arrested for 127 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:09.639 in some cases a violent act and then they were 128 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:11.040 immediately released when they were. 129 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:12.199 Found to be not competent. 130 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:14.279 First of all, I want to go back because you 131 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:16.319 voted for this, and I want to allow you to 132 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:19.879 explain how the change was made, and then tell me 133 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:22.279 what has been proposed, and please tell me something has 134 00:06:22.319 --> 00:06:24.800 been proposed already to fix this problem. 135 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:29.199 Yeah, so the constitution is pretty clear. When someone is 136 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:33.319 deemed unrestorable and incompetent, they can't just language in a 137 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:36.519 correctional facility. The bill that was passed, the intent was 138 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:39.759 is that they would either be committed to a criminal 139 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:43.959 institution or a civil institution. What happened was the burden 140 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:46.879 of proof changed and the burden of proof was placed 141 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:49.399 on the District Attorney's office, the prosecutors instead of the 142 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:54.079 public defender. And hence we're into a situation where individuals 143 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:56.959 are being released because they may have Alzheimer's. They may 144 00:06:57.000 --> 00:06:59.759 have they may be intellectually disabled. So in other words, 145 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:02.600 the IQ maybe like forty or thirty five or something, 146 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:05.600 and you're not going to restore that, and they're incompetent. 147 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:08.399 They should have had a civil commitment. We don't have 148 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:12.439 the beds for that. So a bill is coming back 149 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:15.000 to fix that. I have not seen that bill yet, 150 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:18.720 it hasn't been introduced. I know that Minority Leader Simpson 151 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:23.319 and Minority Leader Caldwell are on that bill with Senator 152 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:26.800 Mobley from Boulder. I'm not sure who the other Democrat 153 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:28.360 is on that bill, but I do know I got 154 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:30.240 an update on it because we talk about it at 155 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:33.600 the Joint Budget Committee to ensure that we're looking at 156 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:36.160 the amount of funding that is necessary to ensure that 157 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:39.000 we have the beds for the civil commitments so that 158 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:41.439 we can get these people into facilities and get them 159 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:43.120 the care that they need. We're not going to be 160 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:45.360 able to restore them. They're always going to be incompetent, 161 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:48.639 but you know, they're still in a situation where we're 162 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:52.720 keeping the neighborhoods safe and actually keeping them safe from 163 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:55.319 doing harm to themselves as well and putting them into 164 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:58.000 a civil institution. So that bill is working this way through. 165 00:07:58.040 --> 00:07:59.680 I heard it's going to be like two hundred pages 166 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:02.720 or something that measure. I think the district attorneys I've 167 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:05.279 been talking with them there they are going to, as 168 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:07.600 far as I know, support it, but none of us 169 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:09.160 have seen the bill, so I can't say they're going 170 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:10.600 to do that until we see the bill and they've 171 00:08:10.600 --> 00:08:12.680 had the opportunity to make sure they're changes that are 172 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:15.319 in there, and there isn't something else that is going 173 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:16.839 to come back and smack us in the face. So 174 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:20.360 they're still working them through. We haven't got it done, 175 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:23.680 but we're all prepared to, Like when I talk to 176 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:28.160 Senator Simpson, we're prepared to support the bill. I'm prepared 177 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:30.240 as a Joint Budget Committee to support the funding for it. 178 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:31.360 So that's where we're out on that. 179 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:33.639 So let me ask, because you're on the Joint Budget 180 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:36.039 Committee and you know the budget it's going to be 181 00:08:36.039 --> 00:08:37.679 tied again this year. You said at the end of 182 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:41.039 the special session, we balanced nothing because they just drew 183 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:43.559 down the reserves. Right, that's how they balance the budget. 184 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:45.480 They took a lot of one time money and they 185 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:48.720 quote fixed the budget in the special session. So now, 186 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:52.639 what kind of shortfall is Colorado facing at this moment? 187 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:56.279 So sure, in the current fiscal year, we have a 188 00:08:56.440 --> 00:08:59.039 three hundred and seventy million dollars shortfall that will have 189 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:01.240 to balance. And the way they want to balance that 190 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:04.639 in this current fiscal year is by lowering the amounts 191 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:07.039 for our reserve. So instead of a fifteen percent reserve, 192 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:09.840 we'll end up with a thirteen percent reserve. Again, they 193 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:12.440 wouldn't cut spending, They're going to cut our savings account. 194 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:14.879 That's essentially what that adds up to, you know, we're 195 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:18.000 not in a recession. This problem that we're in, the 196 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:20.480 structural deficit that we're in, is a price is a 197 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:24.559 crisis of priorities for my colleagues across the aisle, and 198 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:26.360 they want to fund things that are not you know, 199 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:29.519 what I call core government services and are things that 200 00:09:29.559 --> 00:09:32.519 we you know, we absolutely have to fund, and not 201 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:35.120 fund the things that we do absolutely need to be funding. 202 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:38.360 So that's where we're at in this current fiscal year. 203 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:40.240 We'll be starting off the next budget year as we're 204 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:43.480 looking at writing the budget about eight hundred and forty 205 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:45.639 million in the red. And that's going to grow because 206 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:48.320 we haven't even got all the numbers from the Department 207 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:51.080 of health Care Policy and Finance, which does Medicaid, so big, 208 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:53.840 huge problem. And here's the other thing. Just today, this 209 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:56.559 is how silly this is. Just today, we had a 210 00:09:57.120 --> 00:10:00.679 supplemental request for in this current fiscal year about fifteen 211 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:03.399 million dollars for the Department of Corrections because they need 212 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:08.440 additional bed capacity, like nine hundred beds something in that range. 213 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:12.320 Nine hundred additional beds because of the inmate population is increasing. 214 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:16.759 Instead of agreeing to fund the additional beds. The Democrats 215 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:19.039 on the Joint Budget Committee or taking the governor to task, 216 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:21.720 they think they should be letting they think the governor 217 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:24.639 should be letting these people out of prison. And in fact, 218 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:27.960 I heard several times that we need to let people 219 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:30.440 out aren't dangerous, And I'm like, well, who is that? 220 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:34.600 Because they're in jail, they're in a correctional facility, maybe 221 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:35.279 they're dangerous. 222 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:37.759 Are you telling me that the Democrats are advocating for 223 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:39.080 the release of Tina Peters. 224 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:41.960 I mean, she's not a violent criminal. 225 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.600 I'm just saying so it sounds to me like they're 226 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:46.600 saying we need to release Tina Peters, doesn't it. 227 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:47.799 I mean, I'm just gonna go there. 228 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:50.039 You know, I may have to ask that question and 229 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:51.919 bring that up point because I'm sure this is coming 230 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:54.279 back in front of us on Monday. But I'm just 231 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:56.159 looking at them, going, you know, eventually, we have to 232 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:58.480 pay for this one way or another, Like you can't 233 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:00.639 just go let people out of jail. There's you know, 234 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:03.519 a system that we have. There's things called parole and 235 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:06.799 community corrections and different things. They all have to get funded. 236 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:09.039 But in the meantime they're like, well they can just 237 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:11.480 languish in the county jails and you know, can be 238 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:13.720 the county jail problem. You know, the shriff and the 239 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:16.240 county commissioners, they could be their problem. But I just 240 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:19.320 think it. I mean, that just tells you their mindset. 241 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:21.679 We need to be letting people out because they're not dangerous. 242 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:24.200 And I'm like, they're in jail they committed a crime. Right. 243 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:27.120 It's funny because the governor, just the governor was just 244 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:31.720 out touting our massive reductions in crime, right, And I 245 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:34.600 found the most interesting part about the crime reduction, and 246 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:37.399 we did. We had a great year of crime reduction 247 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:39.200 across the state. Do you know where they had the 248 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:42.879 biggest crime reduction in terms of our major cities Aurora 249 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:48.279 Aurora where the conservative city council strengthened the penalties for 250 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:52.840 crimes and amazingly crime went down. It's almost like they 251 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:55.759 can't see the cause and effect of their policies. 252 00:11:56.679 --> 00:11:58.559 Well, and we just kind of vote by the people 253 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.840 that talk about truth incentive. So you know, how about 254 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:04.039 we follow the will of the voters. These people need 255 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:06.639 to say in jail, if you know, they committed a crime, 256 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:08.840 they need to do the time kind of thing. And 257 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:11.120 we need to ensure. How many times have we heard 258 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:13.799 about how we're going to improve safety in the state. 259 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:16.200 I mean, Governor Polis said in one of the State 260 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:17.919 of the States, was that three or four years ago, 261 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:19.519 you wanted to be in the top ten of the 262 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:22.360 most safest state. Information. Well, we got in the top ten. 263 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:24.559 It's the top ten of the most dangerous states in 264 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:27.840 the nation. So and that's because of their policies that 265 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:29.879 they've been doing. I mean, let's be clear, it's one 266 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:33.080 party control. They're in control of the House, the Senate, 267 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:36.000 and the governor's office, and they keep making these poor decisions. 268 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:38.120 And every time you're right, every time they say they're 269 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:40.159 going to do something for us, you might as well 270 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:42.120 hold onto your pocketbook. You might as well understand that 271 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:44.440 things are just going to get worse, because that's what's 272 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:46.000 happened over the course the last seven years. 273 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:47.279 That is sad but true. 274 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:49.639 Let me ask you, a Texter said, is there anything 275 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:54.039 on the horizon about gun bills? I mean, obviously they've 276 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:57.879 made buying a weapon in Colorado fifty fresh layers of hell, 277 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:00.840 and it is as misery here. 278 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:02.960 So they what do they cook it out for us 279 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:03.679 gun owners? 280 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:09.519 Well, you remember the red Flag law, the Extreme Risk 281 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:13.200 Protection Order. Yeah, they're bringing it back and expanding it, 282 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:17.360 and it dramatically. This build dramatically expands who can petition 283 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:20.919 a court to seize someone's firearms. This is an extremely 284 00:13:21.039 --> 00:13:24.320 unconstitutional law that we have in place. I know this 285 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:26.120 is you know, when I was a county commissioner, this 286 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:28.480 is why we created a second Amendment Sanctuary County, because 287 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:30.679 they're like, look, we aren't going to enforce law that 288 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:33.559 basically tells us to violate our oath, which is to 289 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:39.799 uphold the Constitution. But this one says essentially that anybody 290 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:41.679 who this is who can petition a court to seize 291 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:46.519 the firearms. Institutions like schools, hospitals, behavior health facilities, and 292 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:50.519 corresponding programs, they can all file petitions, including against miners. 293 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:56.399 And they also authorize broad disclosure of private medical and 294 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:01.039 mental health records. Screw dude, Wait a. 295 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:04.399 Minute, I just I just I just choked on my question. 296 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:08.720 You just said they can be filed against miners. Miners 297 00:14:08.840 --> 00:14:11.879 cannot legally own a firearm. So are they going to 298 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:14.159 come in and try to take the weapons that are 299 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:15.120 in someone's house. 300 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:18.120 Yeah, they're already trying to do that. That's what the 301 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:19.639 red flagli was about in the first place. 302 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:23.240 But if it's if they're if they're filing it against 303 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:26.360 a minor, and a miner doesn't own the firearms, so 304 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:28.440 they're trying to come in and say, Look like if 305 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:30.360 they try to file it against my kid, they would 306 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:32.440 come in and say, oh, Mandy and Chuck, we're gonna 307 00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:33.240 have to take your guns. 308 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:39.440 Yeah, oh gosh. And here here's the other thing, authorizing 309 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:44.799 broad disclosure of private medical and mental health records. Who's 310 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:46.559 gonna go Who's going to take your kid in for 311 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:50.799 mental health? Now? Nobody? Well, I mean, you're just mean 312 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:53.480 interest saying it. It'll be a chilin effect on treatment 313 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:56.720 if we can do process, I mean essentially. I mean 314 00:14:56.879 --> 00:14:59.159 they're just I know, I said we can say that. 315 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:02.200 They're just saying script, you don't have any more due process. 316 00:15:02.240 --> 00:15:04.399 We're gonna come seezure guns. That's the whole purpose here. 317 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:09.320 So I think it's an issue again. So that's what 318 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:11.919 they're doing there. There's another bill that I know you're 319 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:14.919 gonna love. It's Senate Bill twenty six zero zero five 320 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:19.559 Simple Liability for Immigration Enforcement. Shut up better enough? That 321 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:25.360 word what it's not mat words that you're thanks for 322 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:28.440 a state, but this bill creates a new state level 323 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:33.240 cause of action allows individuals to suit anyone involved in 324 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:38.720 simple immigration enforcements and private individuals. 325 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:40.159 How in the world. 326 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:44.799 Does federal supremacy not just immediately shut that down? I mean, 327 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:47.200 how in the world do they think they have authority 328 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:50.919 over a federal agency? 329 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:53.919 Because I'm telling you my colleagues across the aisle down here, 330 00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:56.480 I think they can rewrite the Constitution on the Senate floor, 331 00:15:57.279 --> 00:16:00.240 on the Senate House floors. I they don't have any Are. 332 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:02.399 They familiar with the document at all? Because it doesn't 333 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:03.720 sound like they are at all. 334 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:08.279 Yeah. So, yeah, the individuals who's carrying this is Senator Gonzalez, 335 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:12.919 who's running against US Senator John Hey, come o her. Okay, 336 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:17.240 then one last question for you. Oh yeah, because. 337 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:18.279 We're almost out of time and I want to get 338 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:18.559 this in. 339 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:21.039 I said this earlier on the show. I don't have 340 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:23.320 any I don't think there's any evidence out there. We 341 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:27.840 don't have undercover investigators busting massive amounts of fraud in 342 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:31.919 our medicaid system. But Barb, I want someone in government 343 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:34.039 to say, you know what, we don't know if we 344 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:36.639 have a problem, we'd like to make sure that our 345 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:38.879 dollars are being spent on the people who need them 346 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:41.360 the most. Can we please set up some kind of 347 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:46.679 like colleifraudo website where people can you know, upload tips 348 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:49.399 about fraud just and then maybe look at doing a 349 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:52.720 Medicaid audit, just to make sure that and not on 350 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:55.080 the people that are getting medicaid. Right, I'm talking about 351 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:58.360 the organizations that we've seen in other states that have 352 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:02.639 been set up to defraud Medicaid and other organizations. I 353 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:05.680 would love to see someone put that forward and say, look, 354 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:09.079 if you know a fraud, let us know. We'll investigate 355 00:17:09.079 --> 00:17:12.039 it to make sure that the taxpayer dollars are going 356 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:14.240 to the people who deserve them and not a single 357 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:14.920 other person. 358 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:18.960 Well, and the reality is we do audits, we do 359 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:22.000 look through things like that. You're right, I mean, there 360 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:24.799 is so there's so much in state government, and you're right, 361 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:26.920 that would be a great idea. I don't think the 362 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:28.960 Democrats would ever agree to that, just so you know, 363 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:31.960 but it doesn't mean we can't try. But I just 364 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:33.880 don't think they would ever agreed to that. That would 365 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:36.160 have a fiscal note on it. They'd kill it right there, 366 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:39.079 you know, they would weagonize the fiscal note against this 367 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:41.759 on the bill. But here's the thing. If you were 368 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:44.960 just reading even some of the recent articles in the paper, 369 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:47.880 you'll know that we did have some massive fraud in 370 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:49.920 the Department of health Care Policy and Finance in the 371 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:53.319 Medicaid in the emergency medical transports. And we learned about 372 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:55.640 it in twenty three when I was on the Joint 373 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:59.200 Budget Committee. We were shutting down the program. But from 374 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:02.400 the article that I today, there's like millions and millions 375 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:04.799 of dollars that still went out the door even after 376 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:07.599 we were supposedly shut down the program, hired a new 377 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:10.480 contractor and tried to deal with it in a different 378 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:13.160 way and get it under control. It's been over. I'm 379 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:15.599 assuming it's been over at the Attorney General's office, because 380 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.200 he's the one who should be going after this loss. 381 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:20.960 Well, I was going to ask, where's the attorney government. 382 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:23.279 He's too busy suing Trump. He doesn't have time to 383 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:24.759 pursue criminal charges against that. 384 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:26.240 Senator Barb Kirkmeyer. 385 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:29.559 I look forward to these visits throughout the legislative session. 386 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:32.839 I'm calling them, what fresh hell is this with Barb Kirkmeyer. 387 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:33.680 So there you go. 388 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:36.839 We'll talk to Barb throughout the session as it continues 389 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:39.519 down its path, so make notes of the worst of 390 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:40.640 the worst so you can share. 391 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:41.200 Them with me on the show. 392 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:43.400 That's right, Thank you, Mandy. 393 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:45.240 All right, thanks Barb. We'll talk again. 394 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:45.599 Zoon. 395 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:47.240 That's State Senator Barb Kirkmeyer.