WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.399 --> 00:00:04.040 Hi, This is Rick Patrick or for Laardel, Florida, and 2 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:06.559 I usually play it calling me West Golf Course. 3 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:10.359 Golf Smarter Nerder four hundred and seventy four published on 4 00:00:10.439 --> 00:00:12.599 February three, twenty fifteen. 5 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:17.879 Welcome to Golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain 6 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:21.519 insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the 7 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:27.559 Golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets Old. Our 8 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:32.439 interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations 9 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:36.119 like this that are no longer available in any podcast app. 10 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:37.880 Especially for the guys that are trying to break ninety. 11 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:39.399 There's a lot of simple things you can do to 12 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:41.640 get better. Some of the things I'd suggest for guys. 13 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:44.119 A simple thing like an impact bag is really really good, 14 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:46.600 even with the golf club. If you're really crazy about it, 15 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:48.439 just go to your local golf store. Get yourself a 16 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:50.640 seven nine, Maybe get a mold and grip put onto it, 17 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:53.039 or training grips some people might call them. Get yourself 18 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:55.079 like an impact bag. If you're at home, what you 19 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:56.960 can do is throw your bag in the backyard and 20 00:00:57.079 --> 00:00:59.719 just push it around, make a few small swings, just 21 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:01.520 try to build up that feeling of what the correct 22 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:03.600 impact position is. If you start pushing the bag, it's 23 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:05.439 going to get your body angles better as well your 24 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:07.560 body and wrist angles. And also if you've got a mirror, 25 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:09.040 I get yourself in front of a mirror because what 26 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:11.120 I generally try and do. A lot of guys anyways, 27 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:13.079 when they come, they set up son't very good, so 28 00:01:13.120 --> 00:01:14.719 I try and get them set up the correct way. 29 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:17.079 Obviously when they leave it probably feels a little foreign, 30 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:18.959 but it's like anything, if you do it enough, it 31 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:20.760 just becomes a new normal because you're gonna find with 32 00:01:20.799 --> 00:01:23.480 golf the fields are always constantly changing, but visually it's 33 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:24.519 always going to look the same. 34 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:32.359 Simple tools to breaking one hundred, ninety or eighty with 35 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:36.799 Josh Willard, this is Golf Smarter. Welcome to the Golf 36 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:37.640 Smarter Podcast. 37 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:39.959 Josh, thanks very thanks for having me here today. 38 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:42.480 Thanks for coming into the studio. This is great. 39 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:45.760 We met just a few weeks ago out on the 40 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:47.079 driving range. 41 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:50.519 Over at Pickoar Gap. That's correct, Yeah, and you're teaching 42 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:51.760 there now or that's right. 43 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:52.040 Yeah. 44 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:54.799 I actually work at Pickcock Gap five days a week 45 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:57.560 and I work another day down in Alameter Chucker Rick 46 00:01:57.560 --> 00:01:58.280 at Golf Complex. 47 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:00.879 Okay, all right, I can tell you by your accent, 48 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:04.959 your local that's right. Yeah, No, originally from local to 49 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:05.760 Marine County. 50 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:09.280 No, originally from Sydney, from Sydney, Australia and been in 51 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:10.680 the US for about four years. 52 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:14.159 Now, okay, and would write you here? Where'd you leave? 53 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:17.240 Before I came to America, I was actually working in 54 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:21.360 Austria in Lynz And before that I was working in 55 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:25.319 Singapore for three years. And then before that I played 56 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:28.520 on the tour for about eight years. Which tour I've 57 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:31.960 had status on the Australasian Tour, on the Asian Tour 58 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:34.039 and also on the South African. 59 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:38.400 Really really and what are the differences between each tour? 60 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:41.560 Is it just another level up or I. 61 00:02:41.479 --> 00:02:45.759 Think with those three tours maybe the Asian Tour possibly 62 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:49.039 slightly stronger because there's more events, there's a bit more money. 63 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:54.960 The Australian Tool of the Australasian Tours, it's known probably 64 00:02:55.800 --> 00:02:58.159 they've lost quite a few events compared to say fifteen 65 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:01.639 years ago. But they're all really sort of tours that 66 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:04.319 get the guys starting tour, to get you onto the 67 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:07.240 PGA Tour or to get you onto the European Tour. 68 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:12.199 And you obviously left Australia a while ago. 69 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:14.400 That's right. I left about thirteen. 70 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:16.840 Years ago, okay, all right, and this was to pursue 71 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:18.560 a career in professional golf. 72 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:22.919 Yeah, you know, I played for eight years before that. 73 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:24.919 I was actually an apprentice golf pro. I got my 74 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:28.719 PGA status in Australia, my Class A status, and then, 75 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:32.280 like most guys when they're sort of twenty one twenty two, 76 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:34.159 when you finish your Class A, you want to go 77 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:37.120 try and play golf professionally. So I did that for 78 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:39.680 about eight years, and then I got to around twenty nine. 79 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:42.280 I figured that I sort of wasn't working out how 80 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:46.680 I hope it would, and I had to pursue something else. 81 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:48.919 So I really enjoyed teaching, so I thought to go 82 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:50.360 down that route. Yeah. 83 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:53.719 Very different skill set teaching than being a player. 84 00:03:54.639 --> 00:03:58.080 Yeah, definitely. You know, I guess with well, because he being. 85 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:01.240 A player, you're in your own head, right, that's true, 86 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:03.800 and teacher you've got to bring it out. 87 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:05.680 That's got to be able to articulate it. 88 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:06.319 Absolutely. 89 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:08.960 So what is the hardest part to make that transition? 90 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:13.400 I guess it's just trying to get the knowledge on 91 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:15.639 how to instruct people, how to get people better. And 92 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:17.639 I guess that just takes time. You sort of like 93 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:20.199 any skill, you've got to develop it over over years. 94 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:22.040 And I guess I've been doing this for now thirteen years, 95 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:24.120 so I feel like I'm getting better every year at it, 96 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:28.240 and you know, communicating and just getting people to improve. 97 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:39.720 How are you able to translate your thoughts into instruction. 98 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:44.240 I mean, let me get you were probably a natural 99 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:47.439 player growing up. You just immediately were starting to play 100 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:50.079 really well when you were a kid and fell in 101 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:50.800 love with the game. 102 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:53.959 Yeah. I think I was introduced to the game through 103 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:58.879 my grandfather. And in Australia when I was a kid, 104 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:01.399 you couldn't you couldn't join a golf club til fourteen. 105 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:06.120 You could still get onto the public golf courses and play, 106 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:08.079 but if you want to join like a golf club, 107 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:11.360 you have to be at least forteing to start. 108 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:16.399 Okay, all right, So being a strong player as a 109 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:19.120 kid and wanting to succeed and then going to the 110 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:23.560 different tours and then going into teaching. To me, it's 111 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:30.079 natural players are not necessarily the best instructors. I've always 112 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:32.639 thought like the best teachers were the C students, not 113 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:35.199 the A plus students, because the A students it comes 114 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:37.879 naturally to them, it's easy, and they don't understand how 115 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:40.519 people struggle with whatever they're teaching. 116 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:43.639 So do you have do you get. 117 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.920 Frustrated when you're instructing and people just aren't getting what 118 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:50.439 you're trying to You're trying to teach them because you 119 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:51.560 think it's so obvious. 120 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:54.399 Well, I guess as an instructor, you have to have 121 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:58.000 some patience. Yeah, you're dealing with people that maybe play 122 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:00.000 golf once a week or once a month or once 123 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:03.680 a year, or they're just starting up. But you know, 124 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:06.279 as far as the instructions concerned, I really feel that 125 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:11.519 you've got to keep it really simple and for people 126 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:13.560 to get better, I just feel that you've just got 127 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:17.639 to keep it really basic. And to me, the way 128 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:21.360 that the tour players play, they've got maybe more flawed. 129 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:24.000 You know, they've got a lot of compensations in their 130 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:26.040 swings and they can make that work. But for the 131 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:29.879 average person, for me, they need something simpler. You know 132 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:32.480 that they need to have, you know, less motion to 133 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:36.199 it all to make it repeat. 134 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:42.399 That's an interesting idea is how the pro players. The 135 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:46.800 better players can adjust from shot to shot on their swing, 136 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:50.240 and yet the amateur has to really learn how to 137 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:53.519 have a swing. And then you go out on the 138 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:56.600 course and these guys who are struggling to break ninety 139 00:06:56.759 --> 00:06:58.240 or going oh I knew what I did wrong then, 140 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:00.560 or yeah, I got to shape this one around the tree. 141 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:02.879 It's like, really, you have that shot in your back? Really? 142 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:03.759 Really? 143 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:04.560 Come on? Really? 144 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:05.439 Yeah? 145 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:08.439 Well, you know, I guess. I guess for the professionals 146 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:10.519 that obviously got more time to work at it, they're 147 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:12.600 a lot more talented, really, they're or more athletic than 148 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:16.079 say the average person. Whereas the average guys, it's I 149 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:17.680 guess he's out there to try and have some fun 150 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:21.000 and and you know he's going to be a little uh, 151 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:22.720 a little more all over the place, I guess, as 152 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:24.319 far as you know, off the tee, and he's gonna 153 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:26.480 have to try and create shots to get back get 154 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:28.839 the ball back into playing. Yeah, and that's that's that's it. 155 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:30.279 That's why I guess goes so difficult. 156 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:34.240 You know, Yeah, what what is the So let's let's 157 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:38.079 talk about your instruction a bit. What do you like 158 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:43.839 to focus on with Let's say somebody who's who's been 159 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:48.680 playing the game for a while. They're struggling and they 160 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:52.759 don't know what it is that's preventing them from breaking ninety. 161 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:55.879 You know, they're in the upper nineties, they're occasionally in 162 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:58.480 the broad round, they're in the low hundreds, but they're 163 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.560 mid and upper nineties, and they just can't get down 164 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:05.199 to ninety. And if they break ninety, they it's like 165 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:09.759 that would be a major event in their golfing career. 166 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:14.639 Well, I feel it with most people. You know, probably 167 00:08:14.680 --> 00:08:16.600 they're the short game lets them down a little bit. 168 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:18.879 You know, for a lot of people, when most people 169 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:20.839 come for lessons, what I find is they want to 170 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:23.000 learn how to hit the long shots, the long game. 171 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:25.480 And then when you talk to them about their game, 172 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:27.439 and if they come consistently, you sort of say, well, 173 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:29.480 are you spending any time on your short game? And 174 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:31.920 most of the time the answer is no, not really. 175 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:34.480 But you know, other people they can come and you know, 176 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:36.440 they sort of chip and put okay, but they're long 177 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:40.960 games rotten, you know, So it just depends on the individual. 178 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:42.799 But I find, you know, normally, if their long game's written, 179 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:44.159 if you can sort of fix up their long game 180 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:46.840 a bit as well. They can drop you know, quite 181 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:48.879 a few shots. Just depends on on the individual. 182 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:50.960 I guess the long game being after tea. 183 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:54.000 Well, just just in general with when you've got a long, 184 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:55.679 you know, the long game. As far as the consistency 185 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:57.159 of it, you know, most people tend to fight the 186 00:08:57.240 --> 00:08:58.919 right side of the golf course for the right hander, 187 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:02.320 and I think a lot of that just stems from 188 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:06.240 the starts and their concepts of where the power comes from. 189 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:09.639 Let's let's let me take you on that right there, 190 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:11.159 and let's expand on that. 191 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:11.840 What does that mean? 192 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:14.120 Well, you know, for I guess, the way the game's 193 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:18.320 traditionally been taught is is that you know, you're here 194 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:21.519 in the US. We've got the Golf Channel, and that's 195 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:23.960 sort of like the new and YouTube, I guess, and 196 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:26.320 that's like the new golf magazines. You know that the 197 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:29.080 golf magazines screwed. I feel sort of have messed people 198 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:32.159 up a bit for a long time. But you know, 199 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:34.879 the way the game's traditionally been taught is that you know, 200 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:37.039 you've got to You've got to get it, get yourself 201 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:39.720 over the ball, get yourself comfortable, and then try and 202 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:43.360 make this massive, big turn and for most people when 203 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:45.240 they try and make, the more they try and turn, 204 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:47.600 the more out of position they get. And then once 205 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:49.399 they're out of position, they're trying to recover to get 206 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:51.120 back into the right position so they can hit the ball. 207 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:53.000 And the problem with golf is we don't have a 208 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:56.200 lot of time. You know, the club's traveling at seventy 209 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:57.879 to one hundred miles an hour, and you don't have 210 00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:00.480 a lot of time to try and match it all 211 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:02.679 up and hit the ball straight. And that's why I 212 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:04.879 feel that a lot of people struggle with it. 213 00:10:06.559 --> 00:10:10.759 Off the tee a bigger problem to swing or the 214 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:11.960 club selection. 215 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:15.279 Well, I think if people were a little more conservative 216 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:17.799 with the selection, you know. I mean, of course some 217 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.480 you know, it depends on the course, but people tend 218 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:22.919 to gravitate, gravitate towards the driver and they feel like 219 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:25.799 that's the that's the fun club to hit. But you 220 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:26.799 know a lot of the times they. 221 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:27.879 Just really that's fun. 222 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:31.840 Well it's I guess it all ends in tears a 223 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:34.039 lot of the time. But you know, if they sort 224 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:36.200 of maybe went towards like a three wood or a 225 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:38.080 five wood or even a hybrid off the tee and 226 00:10:38.120 --> 00:10:40.840 sacrifice a little bit of distance. Sort of their strategy 227 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:42.200 was a little better and just got the ball and 228 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:45.919 to play and sacrifice the twenty or thirty yards you know. Okay, 229 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:47.559 they might have as long as second shot, but they 230 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:49.879 probably find that they're playing the ball more off the 231 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:51.720 short grass than in the rough and in the trees. 232 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:54.600 Absolutely, And then they get themselves into the rough and 233 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:56.360 in the trees, going oh I can get there from here. 234 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:58.799 Yeah, Well, they just aren't realistic, you know, get they 235 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:00.320 when they get the ball out of pause and then 236 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:03.159 they're trying to get it back into position. And you know, 237 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:07.240 most people, they're playing a shot that's really I might 238 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:09.519 pull off ten percent of the time instead of so 239 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:12.000 just taking the medicine and chopping the ball back out 240 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:18.639 onto the fairway. 241 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:19.360 That's interesting. 242 00:11:19.399 --> 00:11:21.960 You call it taking your medicine and getting back in 243 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:26.000 the fairway. And yet it took me a while to realize. 244 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:29.399 But once I started figuring out, if I quote unquote 245 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:31.320 took my medicine and just put the ball back in 246 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:33.799 the fairway, get it into play, I can get the 247 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:34.879 next shot onto the green. 248 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:35.919 Okay, now I'm putting. 249 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:38.200 If I two putt, I bogie the hall, all right. 250 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:43.080 So but if I see a slide opening, I'm over 251 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:45.200 on the side there, I'm the right. I'm in between 252 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:48.759 trees and rough and there's a tall tree in front 253 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:50.200 of the green, and there's a bunker in front of 254 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.320 the green as well. I mean, there's all these things 255 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:54.879 that are in my way. But I think, but it's 256 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:58.360 only one hundred and thirty yards. I can reach that, right, 257 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:01.879 But there's all these obstacles in the way. And I 258 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:04.240 go for it, and of course I hit a tree. 259 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:06.360 Then I have to go under another one that I'm 260 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:08.120 in the bunker. Now all of a sudden, I'm putting 261 00:12:08.159 --> 00:12:10.360 for a seven. You know, if I to pay it 262 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:15.919 takes me five strokes. Where are we not thinking it through? 263 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:19.639 Of like what are the consequences here? Oh? 264 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:24.440 Definitely I feel that, you know, you know, if you 265 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:27.039 looked at that situation, say, like, if you're going to 266 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:28.879 invest money, you know you wouldn't put your money into 267 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:30.799 something that you feel it you got a ten percent 268 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:32.840 chance of making money out of, would you know? You'd 269 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:34.679 definitely be a little more conservative with you the way 270 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:38.000 you think. But you know, I guess maybe that's the 271 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:40.240 attraction with golf you're feeling that. You know, you watch 272 00:12:40.279 --> 00:12:42.120 golf on t you see Phil Mickelson play and he's 273 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:43.480 sort of all over the place and he hits this 274 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:45.519 miraculous shot. So we all feel that we can do that, 275 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:47.840 you know, and it's obviously that's fun when it comes off. 276 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:50.720 But when it doesn't come off, then, you know, then 277 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:52.240 we look a bit silly and we rack up a 278 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:53.120 big number. 279 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:57.240 Big number, again and again and again. I love to 280 00:12:57.279 --> 00:13:01.600 emphasize getting fitted for clubs. I know that when I 281 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:04.919 got fitted for my driver, it really made a big 282 00:13:04.960 --> 00:13:07.399 difference in the game because I started finding out that 283 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:12.480 by hitting more fairways, I'm definitely in position for more pars. 284 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:15.919 Whether I have to chip up, you know, close to 285 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:17.639 the pen and try to put in one, or I'm 286 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:22.639 on the green in regulation, it really does make a 287 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:24.799 huge difference when you're playing from the fairway. 288 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:27.480 Yeah, absolutely, you know, golf's much easier off the shorter 289 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:29.759 grass than when you're in the rough. And like you 290 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:32.840 said about getting fitted for the driver, people tend to 291 00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:37.120 have generally need a lot more loft on their driver 292 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.279 than what they've got. You know, people like to maybe 293 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:40.840 it's a bit of a macho thing. But people like 294 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:43.120 to have like a nine or ten degree driver, whereas 295 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:45.159 I feel if people had more like an eleven or 296 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:47.639 twelve degree driver, Okay, if they really had a good one, 297 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:49.159 it may not go as far, but it takes a 298 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:51.960 bit more spin off the ball, well, actually takes a 299 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.039 side spin off the ball. Ball gets a bit more 300 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:56.480 up in the air. It's a bit easy to hit. 301 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:58.159 It's easy to get the ball into play. 302 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:01.440 We've already mentioned a couple times of hitting it far, 303 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:04.639 hitting it far, which seems to be the great lure. 304 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:06.360 We did an. 305 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:09.720 Episode a couple of years ago that we called give 306 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.600 me ten feet closer than ten yards farther any day 307 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:16.519 of the week? Run are we putting the what is 308 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:19.000 that attraction of watching the ball fly in the air 309 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:21.840 for as long as we can and not realizing and 310 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:23.840 not analyzing At the end of the round. 311 00:14:23.679 --> 00:14:25.240 It's like, Wow, that really was awful. 312 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:30.159 I hit my driver twelve times today or fourteen times today, 313 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:32.200 and I only made two fairways. 314 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:33.679 That this isn't good. 315 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:35.799 Yeah, Well, I guess that's the way the game's going, 316 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:37.879 isn't It's all about power, whether you're talking about golf 317 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:42.120 or tennis or any of those other sports. It's you know, 318 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:43.320 the guys hitting the ball. 319 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:45.879 Further and only the guys on tour. 320 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:48.000 Well that's true, but we see the guys on tour, 321 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:50.000 they're the guys that are driving the whole business run. 322 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:52.279 Well, are they driving it into the ground with that? 323 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:55.799 You know, they were making golf once. Once there was 324 00:14:55.840 --> 00:14:58.600 this boom of golf course construction going on in the 325 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:01.919 country in the early part of the century, right, and 326 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:04.320 now nothing's being built in this country because they were 327 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:06.559 making them longer and longer and longer, and that only 328 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:08.919 appeals to a handful of select players. 329 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:11.200 Yeah, well, definitely, I think the courses are getting too long. 330 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:14.919 You know, if people played off the right t's. You know, 331 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:17.159 Nicholas had a thing out a couple of months ago, 332 00:15:17.200 --> 00:15:19.279 maybe six months ago, we talked about you know, I 333 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:20.960 saw an ad on television here in the States and 334 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:22.759 he was talking about play from them from the te's. 335 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:25.200 That fits you, and for a lot of people, they 336 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:27.279 tend to want to play from the back teas. But 337 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:28.600 I think they'd have a lot more fun if they 338 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:30.720 sort of moved up and played more off the members 339 00:15:30.799 --> 00:15:33.679 t's or off you know, the forward tees. Yeah, some 340 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:36.399 golf course have like a senior tea or have like 341 00:15:36.440 --> 00:15:38.919 a member's tea, but people tend to gravitate towards the 342 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:39.399 back teas. 343 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:42.480 We've got to give We've got to stop giving those 344 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:46.320 teas names, because that's part of the stigma that I'm 345 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:47.519 not blaming the ladies teas. 346 00:15:47.720 --> 00:15:48.720 They're not they're red. 347 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:50.320 Yeah, that's right. 348 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:51.799 Well, they're just the red tea's. 349 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:55.080 And they're you know, and I keep going back, and 350 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:57.720 I have this conversation with my friends all the time 351 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:00.679 when we're out playing. It's like, do you are you 352 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:04.879 here to score as low as you possibly can? Then 353 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:07.799 why not play up a little closer? What's the big deal? 354 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:10.240 Yeah? No, definitely. You know, if you're. 355 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:11.600 Not a scratch golfer, friends. 356 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:13.200 That's right. You know, if you if you're if you're 357 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:15.600 hitting like an eight or a nine iron in instead 358 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:16.799 of a five iron, it's going to be a lot 359 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:18.720 more fun, and it's going to be more scorable. If 360 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:20.480 it's more scorable, you're going to want to play more. So, 361 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:22.440 you know, you're more fun if you're shooting lower school. 362 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:24.919 I'd much rather hit an eight or nine iron than 363 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:27.759 a five or six any day of the week on 364 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:29.200 my second shot, yeah. 365 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:29.559 I'll go for those. 366 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:31.720 Well, yeah, I just have a lot more confidence in 367 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:33.639 that shot, and I keep working on the five and 368 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:35.279 the six, and then I get out there and it's like, no, 369 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:38.360 this is I'm feeling shaky about this. 370 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:39.159 This is not good. 371 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:42.399 No, definitely, you know, like like that's that's probably the 372 00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:44.679 biggest criticism with a lot of people is the new 373 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:46.600 golf courses that they are building. They're tending to get 374 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:49.480 longer and longer and longer, and you know, we're struggling 375 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:52.639 to get people to come to golf, and you know, 376 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:54.159 if they can make it a little bit easier by 377 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:57.639 making it a little bit shorter, I think it. You know, 378 00:16:57.679 --> 00:16:58.960 you probably keep a lot more people. 379 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:01.799 The other thing it's it seems to be so obvious, 380 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:04.519 is that people really don't know the distance they hit 381 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:07.640 each club. They have an idea of what they've hit 382 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:10.359 on the longest shot they've ever had with that club 383 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:13.359 and use that as the standard. But that I think 384 00:17:13.559 --> 00:17:17.079 creates more problems than people are willing to admit. Well, 385 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:20.079 people tend to get to sense when you when you're 386 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:20.759 talking about. 387 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:22.160 Yeah, well you know when you talk to people, say 388 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:23.720 how far i'd hit a seven on and they say, well, 389 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:25.039 I hit one hundred and seventy yards. 390 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:26.599 Well, no, you don't. 391 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:30.519 Well maybe if you hit your absolute best one behind 392 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:35.319 Yeah exactly, that's a firm like a runway. But and 393 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:37.880 yeah's you've got a fifty mile an hour win behind you, 394 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:41.000 like you said. But you know, people, the great probably 395 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:43.000 the best tip you can give anyone is just take 396 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:45.759 an extra club. You know, people tend to always under 397 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:47.640 club you know, especially if you played a lot of 398 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:49.880 pro ams in my day, and the biggest thing is 399 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:52.000 they're always they're always under clubbing. 400 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:55.200 Take an extra club. 401 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:59.920