Speaker 1: Hi, Billy cunning in the Great America. Welcome this Thursday
Speaker 1: afternoon in the Tri State Reds Baseball kicks off to
Speaker 1: not of course, tomorrow they're on the big one starting
Speaker 1: about two thirty five, Dela Cruz is hitting the how
Speaker 1: hide off the ball. Great things are happening there in Tito,
Speaker 1: I trust. But until then, there was a lot of
Speaker 1: good news about Warren County. And of course the president
Speaker 1: of the Commission there is David Young, who's the main
Speaker 1: instigator of keeping the tennis tournament in Mason, etc. And
Speaker 1: David Young, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
Speaker 1: I read this in one of the journals about Warren County.
Speaker 1: There's about three thousand, two hundred counties in America, and
Speaker 1: Warren County is number five. Is it a good list
Speaker 1: or a bad list?
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I've gotten on some bad lists of
Speaker 2: my life, especially when I was trolling the halls of
Speaker 2: Sycamore High School, I was on some bad lists. But
Speaker 2: right now we're on a very good list. And that
Speaker 2: list is average weekly wage growth across the entire nation.
Speaker 2: In our beloved Warren County ranked number five in the
Speaker 2: nation in the increase in average weekly wage increase, and
Speaker 2: that went from roughly sixty six thousand dollars annualized a
Speaker 2: year ago up nine point seven percent to seventy two
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars in a year. So the people inside
Speaker 2: of our county, their wages are rising.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 1: In other words, these are private employers, private people, and
Speaker 1: not government.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Government can't pay people ten percent more
Speaker 2: year every year. It's the private sector. Free market capitalism works.
Speaker 2: When the market decides they want to invest in you,
Speaker 2: your community, your people, then good stuff happens.
Speaker 1: Now do you know the instigator for this? What is it?
Speaker 1: Because so much of America is under stress. I see
Speaker 1: the power grid may have some rolling blackouts this summer
Speaker 1: because we're not invested in that. I see the roads.
Speaker 1: I see your good friend mayor a feb pureval yesterday
Speaker 1: was on a road crew filling thousands and thousands of potholes.
Speaker 1: They've filled over seven thousand potholes and haven't touched most
Speaker 1: of them. They can't cover snow and eyes, they can't
Speaker 1: remove it in the city of Cincinnati. Explain to me
Speaker 1: what Warren County's doing rights is causing this to happen.
Speaker 2: Well, essentially, I think there's a mentality that government can't
Speaker 2: do everything for everyone, that we stay in our lane
Speaker 2: for the most part. And again I'm not talking about
Speaker 2: cutting out every government service to people that actually needed,
Speaker 2: you know, widows, orphans, disabled folks, of course, veterans. Of course,
Speaker 2: we should be there as a government, and a lot
Speaker 2: of that money does come down from the federal government
Speaker 2: through the state and is passed on to us. But
Speaker 2: you know, we have our own veterans levees and things
Speaker 2: like that inside of the county, so we're actually part
Speaker 2: of our sales tax as opposed.
Speaker 3: To a levee.
Speaker 2: But we try to take care of those who can't
Speaker 2: take care of themselves. But everybody else in the free
Speaker 2: market economy, we expect them to be productive. We're not
Speaker 2: going to pay you to sit home and do nothing.
Speaker 2: So the workforce is super super engaged, Willy. As a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, I had a two hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: thousand residents over one hundred thousand employees inside of the county.
Speaker 2: Take a guess how many in the last time I checked,
Speaker 2: and it's been a couple of quarters ago. Take a
Speaker 2: guess how many were actually on the unemployment role inside
Speaker 2: of Warren County.
Speaker 1: I would assume very few.
Speaker 2: Just around five hundred out of over one hundred thousand employees.
Speaker 2: And again assuming national unemployment rates what around three percent
Speaker 2: or four percent? I mean that should be several thousand people,
Speaker 2: and it's not. It's like five hundred people.
Speaker 1: And it's because of available work. You know one thing
Speaker 1: that concerns me all these jobs coming back to America,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we of our workforce trained and willing
Speaker 1: to work. Medicaid is going to be cut a little bit.
Speaker 1: If you're a healthy American and you refuse to work
Speaker 1: and you get government benefits and you're under fifty five
Speaker 1: years old, Trump's going to make you go to work
Speaker 1: in order to get Medicaid benefits. And that mentality is
Speaker 1: out there that I'm here and you government must support me.
Speaker 1: Are you concerned that long term we're going to not
Speaker 1: have a workforce to handle the jobs that Trump's going
Speaker 1: to bring back.
Speaker 2: There is a fine balance in a free market of
Speaker 2: supply and demand, and when you have too much demand
Speaker 2: and not enough supply.
Speaker 4: Look what happened.
Speaker 2: Even recently under paying people not to work, and this
Speaker 2: is exactly what happened during COVID. We paid people not
Speaker 2: to go to work, and there's some justification for that
Speaker 2: because you know, we didn't know there for a while.
Speaker 2: But then people got used to getting these government checks
Speaker 2: and they left the workforce. So what happened Then demand
Speaker 2: came back, and then what happened Wages started spiking because
Speaker 2: there was not the workforce there. And the number one
Speaker 2: cause of systemic inflation is wage pressure. And you and
Speaker 2: I taught about that a long time ago. If you
Speaker 2: remember Willy, when the Jerome pal and the Federal Reserve
Speaker 2: was coming out talking about, oh, this is just transitory inflation,
Speaker 2: and I said, no, it's not. Because once you start
Speaker 2: paying somebody that was working out in the Amazon fact
Speaker 2: or distribution center fifteen bucks, and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you got to pay them twenty bucks next month, you're
Speaker 2: not going back to paying the new employee fifteen dollars.
Speaker 2: That's systemic. Once it goes that wage is set from
Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty bucks, everybody subsequent to that is going
Speaker 2: to be making the twenty bucks. It's not going backwards.
Speaker 2: So that's entrenched in the our economic conditions. So that's
Speaker 2: my concern is if you start all of a sudden saying, hey,
Speaker 2: there's a huge demand for workers and there's a limited
Speaker 2: supply of workers. All of a sudden, wages are going
Speaker 2: to shoot up, not naturally like we've had in Warren County,
Speaker 2: where it really is a supply and demand issue and
Speaker 2: it's in balance, where you artificially spike the demand for workers,
Speaker 2: wages are going to shoot up, and then I don't
Speaker 2: know how you avoid inflationary pressures.
Speaker 1: In fact, I listened to an economists this morning through
Speaker 1: Bloomberg who said that inflation is here to stay because
Speaker 1: there's an imbalance between supply and demand. That is that
Speaker 1: we have a large demand for employees and we have
Speaker 1: a smaller supply, and the more illegal immigrants that leave,
Speaker 1: that's going to cause wage pressures to go up, which
Speaker 1: means inflation is going to be here for a long time.
Speaker 1: Do you buy into.
Speaker 3: That to some degree?
Speaker 2: Yes, And again that's where I think that we one
Speaker 2: hundred percent need to change our immigration policy to greatly
Speaker 2: expand our guest worker program.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: You know, if we can track a package within ten
Speaker 2: feet of anywhere in the world, how in the world
Speaker 2: can we not have a guest worker program to where hey,
Speaker 2: you're not on a path to citizenship. You necessarily don't
Speaker 2: even necessarily want a path of citizenship. You want to
Speaker 2: come here and earn money for your family and send
Speaker 2: it back by working in the fields or doing drywall
Speaker 2: or doing construction or whatever. You're going to do a
Speaker 2: job that is very difficult for us to fill with
Speaker 2: US citizens. So we import workers that that's a better
Speaker 2: opportunity for them. They make more money while they're here,
Speaker 2: they send it a lot of it back. But while
Speaker 2: they're gamefully employed, they're welcome to be here as long
Speaker 2: as they comply with the law. But then once they're done,
Speaker 2: and we know when they're done with their employment, then they.
Speaker 3: Have to leave. You know, Trump, they're.
Speaker 2: Paying into our system. I don't understand why we don't
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: And Trump believes in that too, because we need to
Speaker 1: have millions of guest workers. And if Americans come out
Speaker 1: of living in high school or come out of taft
Speaker 1: and don't want to work, or they don't have the
Speaker 1: work ethic, and they shouldn't be supported by taxes and
Speaker 1: government than guest workers that come here, fingerprints, iprints, whatever
Speaker 1: it takes. Know who you are, work, do what you
Speaker 1: got to do. Allow them to send money back home,
Speaker 1: whatever it might be, and get that done now. Secondly,
Speaker 1: I want to get your reaction to the Tuesday night speech.
Speaker 1: Of the Trump's speech, he won over several eighty twenty
Speaker 1: items that the Democrats loathe, and by the way, this morning,
Speaker 1: Al Green, not the great singer, but the congressman appears
Speaker 1: to have been censored. But nonetheless, when he talked about
Speaker 1: criminal illegal aliens out of the country, that's eighty twenty.
Speaker 1: When he talked about the men not playing women's sports
Speaker 1: and boys at Levin In High School not going into
Speaker 1: the girls' locker room, that's probably a ninety ten issue.
Speaker 1: Were you amazed at the reaction of the Democrats on
Speaker 1: Tuesday night?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's something we've talked a lot
Speaker 2: in politics about playing cards. You and I maybe have
Speaker 2: played a little cards in our life, and when you're
Speaker 2: playing poker, you don't want to overplay your hand. And
Speaker 2: right now I think the Democrats are overplaying their hand.
Speaker 2: That they have such viscery. I mean, they just literally
Speaker 2: hate Donald Trump. I hate to say that, but they
Speaker 2: just can't stand him, and so anything that comes out
Speaker 2: of his mouth, they are saying, we can't agree with
Speaker 2: a little boy that's you know, a cancer survivor that
Speaker 2: they make a secret service agent. You're going to sit
Speaker 2: on your hands for that? Are you kidding me? I mean,
Speaker 2: so it's this worthy opposition. We're the resistance. Nothing this
Speaker 2: guy can do is going to be popular. As you said,
Speaker 2: even though eighty ninety percent of Americans are putting on
Speaker 2: the common sense hat of of course this makes sense.
Speaker 2: Of course we want to do this. Why aren't we
Speaker 2: doing this? And for them to be adamantly opposed to
Speaker 2: every policy position and saying nothing that can come out
Speaker 2: of his mouth, it is true, it's just wrong. And
Speaker 2: I think they're overplaying their hand and I think they're
Speaker 2: going to pay a price for it.
Speaker 1: And as far as tariff's, in addition, being a commissioner,
Speaker 1: you're like an economist, you're a business owner, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Tariffs can be extremely useful because I am told that
Speaker 1: there's close to a trillion dollar annual trade deficit. In
Speaker 1: other words, all these countries around the world have tariffs
Speaker 1: keeping on American products, but our walls are down, their
Speaker 1: tariffs come in. Don't you think in the next month
Speaker 1: or two this is all going to work out? And
Speaker 1: it's going to be an agreement of one type or
Speaker 1: another and the market will return to sanity.
Speaker 2: Well I think that, yeah, I mean, right now, the
Speaker 2: number one thing the stock market in particular doesn't like
Speaker 2: is uncertainty. And right now we have to some degree
Speaker 2: nothing but uncertainty because the things are changing and it's
Speaker 2: a rapidly evolving situation.
Speaker 3: So as you know a guy with an.
Speaker 2: Economics background, that that's always unsettling because we don't know
Speaker 2: exactly what it is. But when you peel back the onion,
Speaker 2: what are we trying to accomplish. It's really fair trade
Speaker 2: that if someone has artificial barriers, like the Canadians that
Speaker 2: have what a two hundred and forty percent tariff on
Speaker 2: our dairy products, that's not fair. So if you want
Speaker 2: to have that, then we're going to hit you with something.
Speaker 2: And then the goal would be for all of these
Speaker 2: tariffs to go away to where it truly is a
Speaker 2: free market and we don't have protected industries. As a
Speaker 2: guy with an economics background, that's what I would like
Speaker 2: to see is more open fair trade to where you're
Speaker 2: good at something, they're good at something, and we trade
Speaker 2: back and forth and you focus on what you're actually
Speaker 2: good at But yeah, this idea that America has the
Speaker 2: intellectual capital that we produce most of the startups in
Speaker 2: the world. We come up with most of the new
Speaker 2: products in the world, not every new product, but from
Speaker 2: drugs or technology or AI. Most of the new inventions
Speaker 2: that have been for the good of humanity have come
Speaker 2: from the US.
Speaker 3: And so that stuff is.
Speaker 2: Then gone out and benefited all these trading partners and
Speaker 2: then for them to say, yeah, but we can't let
Speaker 2: the US dominate our market, so now we're going to
Speaker 2: restrict their products, then we can do the same thing back.
Speaker 2: So over time it might be a little messy here,
Speaker 2: but over time, you know this idea of balance fair trade.
Speaker 2: I'm for balance fair trade.
Speaker 1: Now, lastly, on marijuana, I have on a state Senator
Speaker 1: Huffman on Monday to talk about marijuana. We Ohioan's voted
Speaker 1: like fifty eight percent with the marijuana statue. And you
Speaker 1: and I both know the Governor, Mike DeWine and the
Speaker 1: head of the House in the Senate right now, neither
Speaker 1: one of those guys like marijuana at all. They think
Speaker 1: we made a mistake in voting for recreational marijuana on
Speaker 1: top of medical marijuana. And so now, right now, there's
Speaker 1: about five thousand Ohioans working in marijuana. Whether it's in
Speaker 1: the laboratories or the processors or in the stores, you
Speaker 1: have a large number of people working and they're productive.
Speaker 1: This year, one billion dollars will be taken out of
Speaker 1: the pockets of drug dealers who otherwise would have a
Speaker 1: billion dollars of Ohioan's money buying marijuana and god knows
Speaker 1: what else. And it's being taxed to ten percent, which
Speaker 1: means the state's getting one hundred million dollars, which is
Speaker 1: a paltry sum compared to the fifty five billion dollar
Speaker 1: annual budget, but it is something. But you know, from
Speaker 1: my perspective, I would afford and encourage it because I
Speaker 1: like the idea of drug dealers making less money, and
Speaker 1: I like the idea of people going to work making
Speaker 1: a product to which so many of my fellow Ohioans
Speaker 1: and Kentuckians want to use. And so now they want
Speaker 1: to double from ten percent to twenty and cut around
Speaker 1: the edges to make it more difficult, and don't give
Speaker 1: the townships and the small cities that allow these dispensaries
Speaker 1: to get to three point six percent can you are,
Speaker 1: Can you tell the American people in Warren County what
Speaker 1: is happening with recreational and medical pod in Warren County
Speaker 1: And where do you stand on the state almost regulating
Speaker 1: it out of existence.
Speaker 2: For the most part, I am certainly no expert on
Speaker 2: this issue. That a lot of times this is coming
Speaker 2: up in our municipalities that they are regulating or trying
Speaker 2: to regulate marijuana much more than I am.
Speaker 3: At the county.
Speaker 2: So it really hasn't come before me yet of trying
Speaker 2: to make a decision on what we want to try
Speaker 2: to make this look like. But as a simple guy,
Speaker 2: I go back to some fundamentals.
Speaker 1: It's all about supplying demand.
Speaker 2: Willie. I hate to say it, that there is a demand.
Speaker 2: Marijuana has been something that's been prevalent in our country
Speaker 2: for sixty years, and people know the upside, the downside,
Speaker 2: or what have you, and there is a demand for it.
Speaker 2: So now we're coming with a choice, and which is
Speaker 2: what you were alluding to, who's going to supply it?
Speaker 2: There are people that are going to supply it. The
Speaker 2: demand is there, it's going to be filled, and so
Speaker 2: now are we're going to have it to where it's
Speaker 2: in the government's purview to be regulated and taxed and
Speaker 2: to some degree hopefully made safer because it's not going
Speaker 2: to be painted because you're buying it from an established,
Speaker 2: reputable place and it's not laced with sentinel or something
Speaker 2: crazy that's going to kill somebody. So that's the it's
Speaker 2: a binary choice in my in my opinion, that it's here,
Speaker 2: it's not going away. You know, people know the side
Speaker 2: effects of it, and hopefully, you know, people are making
Speaker 2: their own decisions, but that's up to them. I mean, I'm,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of a libertarian at heart that that's
Speaker 2: their own personal choice. They know the upside and downside
Speaker 2: of this, and why not have this in the purview
Speaker 2: of the government where it can be regulated and taxed.
Speaker 1: Well, state liquor stores are everywhere, and alcohol causes is
Speaker 1: much more difficulties in marijuana. No one gets high on
Speaker 1: marijuana and starts our fights. No one gets high on
Speaker 1: marijuana and starts driving recklessly. But with a liquor and
Speaker 1: the states in that business, that happens all the time.
Speaker 1: And if push comes to shove, the marijuana industry will
Speaker 1: put on a constitutional amendment instead of a legislative fix.
Speaker 1: And if it's a constitutional amendment like the damn abortion
Speaker 1: thing that got passed, then the state legislature and the
Speaker 1: governor will have nothing to do with changing that law.
Speaker 1: And we don't want that constitutional amendment. Do you agree
Speaker 1: that that they ought to work together with the industry
Speaker 1: to come up with a solution.
Speaker 2: Billy, It's exactly what I said before about overplaying your hand.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what happened on the abortion and people that
Speaker 2: were pro life. Look what we got stuck with because
Speaker 2: in my opinion, we overplayed our hand a little bit
Speaker 2: because that's not where the public was. Marijuana is the
Speaker 2: same thing. Don't overplay the hand because then you're going
Speaker 2: to start talking about what Portland where all drugs are
Speaker 2: going to be legal, and we're going to have the
Speaker 2: I mean, it would be sickening. You know, Let people
Speaker 2: have what they want within confines, have it regulated, but
Speaker 2: don't try to overplay the hand and say nothing zero tolerance.
Speaker 1: And David Young, Warren County Commissioner. Once again, but there's
Speaker 1: about three thousand and two under counties all of America.
Speaker 1: As far as wage growth, Warren County, Little Warren County
Speaker 1: is number five in the nation, which no other counties
Speaker 1: even close to that. Have you thought about conducting classes
Speaker 1: for Hamilton County, Kenton County, Boone County, Butler County and
Speaker 1: all other counties. Have you thought about doing classes?
Speaker 2: I don't know that anyone in certain counties would sign
Speaker 2: up for a masterclass, Willy, but it is very heartening
Speaker 2: that when you know, I hate to lose on anything. Hence,
Speaker 2: you know what we collectively tried to do in Warren
Speaker 2: County with tennis and things like that. But when we
Speaker 2: think about being number five in the nation, it's like,
Speaker 2: why aren't we number one? Well, you know, I actually
Speaker 2: went back and looked at who's number one? At through
Speaker 2: four the counties that beat us in wage growth and
Speaker 2: the nation willing I'll name them for you. Number one
Speaker 2: the home of this company called Walmart, bill Arkansas. Number
Speaker 2: two and number three were two counties in California that
Speaker 2: were the home of a company called Meta Facebook, and
Speaker 2: the other one was the home of Google and county
Speaker 2: Number four is Midland County, Texas, where it's the home
Speaker 2: of most of the major oil companies in our nation.
Speaker 2: So we lost out to the counties that are home
Speaker 2: to Walmart, Google, Facebook, and oil companies and then that's
Speaker 2: Warren County. And I'm not exaggerating. That is literally the
Speaker 2: four counties that beat us. Good to work, only getting
Speaker 2: better with the Cincinnati Open coming in July and August
Speaker 2: is going to be great. And David Young once again,
Speaker 2: thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And David,
Speaker 2: You're a great American. Thank you.
Speaker 1: God bless you, Willie, and God bless America. All right,
Speaker 1: let's continue with more news is next, plus my comments
Speaker 1: on all the current issues happening in this great country
Speaker 1: of ours. Plus Reds baseball kicks off three weeks from today.
Speaker 1: Get ready for my great speech at the Holy Grail
Speaker 1: on Thursday, three weeks from today. Is the Reds played
Speaker 1: the Giants. All in News Radio seven hundred WLW, Billy Cunningham,
Speaker 1: the great American. Warren County is the place to be.
Speaker 1: One of the top counties in America. There's about three
Speaker 1: two hundred counties in the United States, and Warren County,
Speaker 1: Ohio is number five in the nation relative to positive
Speaker 1: job growth and salary increases. So Warren County is safe
Speaker 1: and secure. It's nice, got things going on. Same thing
Speaker 1: in Boone County, the home of the rebels. It's wonderful,
Speaker 1: not so much in many urban districts, Cincinnati and Hamley
Speaker 1: County is not much different or better than other urban
Speaker 1: districts that have a large amount of crime and has
Speaker 1: a not great job creation and expenses. Rules and regulations.
Speaker 1: Can't fix the potholes, can't remove the snow. In Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: the city thereof is not much different than other areas
Speaker 1: controlled by liberal Democrats who have different priorities than fixing
Speaker 1: the potholes and holding prices down and making sure kids
Speaker 1: get educated one way or another. It's not unusual, not different.
Speaker 1: I want to set up for the rest of today's
Speaker 1: big show. At one o'clock today, we've scaled to come
Speaker 1: with us a person who, shall we say, is an expert.
Speaker 1: This a little bit off track, but I love this tactic.
Speaker 1: Took is how the mob and gangsters have made big
Speaker 1: decisions in America resulting and the kind of government that
Speaker 1: we have. Going back to John F. Kennedy in nineteen sixty. Also,
Speaker 1: he's got a chapter on Donald Trump, how he matriculated
Speaker 1: the ins and outs of Ohio and I'm sorry New
Speaker 1: York construction dealing with the mob. Also, did you know
Speaker 1: that the FBI tortured Ku Klux Klan members to find
Speaker 1: out who killed the Mississippi Mississippi freedom Fighters and Megah
Speaker 1: Reverens's murderer and LBJ was on the he went to
Speaker 1: a jag or Hoover and said, you know what, we
Speaker 1: got to find out who's hurting these civil rights workers
Speaker 1: in Mississippi. And so the FBI contracted to elements of
Speaker 1: the mob to kidnap, torture, and beat the death Ku
Speaker 1: Klux Klan members to find out who was doing this.
Speaker 1: And I guess today that wouldn't be real popular. But
Speaker 1: you know, one of the reasons that Yellowstone and The
Speaker 1: Godfather were popular was because of street justice outside the
Speaker 1: norm and the Dutton Ranch Yellowstone same way that Godfather movies.
Speaker 1: There was a certain family atmosphere, but if you cross
Speaker 1: the family, there were consequences. I'm not sure today those
Speaker 1: things happened, but they happened in the past. So my
Speaker 1: guest after one o'clock today is Eric Desenhaal. He's written
Speaker 1: a book about the Mob and the presidencies and how
Speaker 1: the president presidents going back to FDR used the mob
Speaker 1: for good purposes and killing and threatening people. And I
Speaker 1: guess he kept things under control. And then after two
Speaker 1: o'clock today is a professor John Ellis about DEI and
Speaker 1: CRT and how this is confusing many Americans as to
Speaker 1: what is a discrimination. It is not discrimination. I don't
Speaker 1: think you you in discrimination by keep practicing it simply
Speaker 1: against a different race or a different gender. It's not
Speaker 1: the way to do it. It may take five to
Speaker 1: ten to twenty years to work ourselves out of this
Speaker 1: situation where a person's skin color, or sex orientation or
Speaker 1: something else has something positive or negative to do about
Speaker 1: getting them hired. To me, it should have no impact
Speaker 1: at all. I work with gay Americans, I work with
Speaker 1: straight Americans. I work with black Americans, and white Americans
Speaker 1: and Hispanic Americans. I do and probably you do too.
Speaker 1: No big deal. It should not be a benefit or
Speaker 1: a cost to have a certain skin color. And at
Speaker 1: some point we have to stop the madness. And if
Speaker 1: you listen to one of my guests coming up, that
Speaker 1: America was the along with Britain, ended the process of
Speaker 1: importation of slaves in the Central America and South America.
Speaker 1: The Arabs and muslim continued it. Most of the Africans
Speaker 1: continued it for centuries. In fact, it happens today. There's
Speaker 1: more slaves alive today than at any time in human
Speaker 1: history numerically, and I'm proud of my country to stop
Speaker 1: it and a fight against it. So DEI does not
Speaker 1: affirmative action, really doesn't fit the idea that skin colors
Speaker 1: should not be a benefit and it should not be
Speaker 1: a cost merit underlying the word mayor is what should matter.
Speaker 1: That's coming up later with Professor John Ellis. But until then,
Speaker 1: I note that the trade deficit, according to Bloomberg, surged
Speaker 1: in January to one hundred and thirty four billion dollars
Speaker 1: in one month, So we're on track once again for
Speaker 1: more than one trillion dollars in trade deficits as a nation.
Speaker 1: That is what the tariffs are about. And by the
Speaker 1: way it appears right now, the Trumpster has suspended the
Speaker 1: tariffs for another thirty days or whatever to work out
Speaker 1: a deal which everyone knew was coming anyway. But the
Speaker 1: market's down crazy. But you can't have a trillion dollars
Speaker 1: every year flowing out of the country on a negative
Speaker 1: basis continue that for a long time, along with two
Speaker 1: trillion dollars every year and budget deficits that the budget
Speaker 1: this year is going to be about six point five trillion,
Speaker 1: and we only collect four point four trillion and receipts
Speaker 1: and income tax payments to the irs, which means we've
Speaker 1: go out and borrow two trillion dollars every year out
Speaker 1: of the market while shipping a trillion dollars plus overseason dollars.
Speaker 1: It cannot continue. It's got to stop, and I have
Speaker 1: some doubt I all confess to this whether Donald John
Speaker 1: Trump can actually stop it or not. Because to eliminate
Speaker 1: the Department of Education, which is a great idea, because
Speaker 1: it has failed miserably that you're going to have to
Speaker 1: have the Congress at some point passing laws eliminating it.
Speaker 1: And when you need sixty votes in the Senate to
Speaker 1: do anything significant, that's a problem because Democrats will never
Speaker 1: agree that they failed when it comes to public education,
Speaker 1: which is an unmitigated disaster in this country. We keep
Speaker 1: doing the same things, anticipating differing results, and keep spending
Speaker 1: more money to solve problems caused by human misbehavior and
Speaker 1: out of lack of funding. I also would note, just
Speaker 1: in a simple way, that most countries have tariffs that
Speaker 1: keep American products out of their country and the tariffs
Speaker 1: America charges other countries to bring the items into this
Speaker 1: country generally are much less than vice versa, and so
Speaker 1: at some point there's got to be a level of
Speaker 1: playing field. Milk, for example, is a two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty percent tariff. If you want to take American milk
Speaker 1: and transport it to Canada across the border, it's two
Speaker 1: and a half times two hundred and fifty percent increase.
Speaker 1: We can't have that. Either we have a fair playing
Speaker 1: ground or we do not, And the media doesn't report
Speaker 1: it that way, but I just did. It's important. Also
Speaker 1: would note that Walmart this morning asked its suppliers for
Speaker 1: major price cuts. There are literally hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 1: small businesses and large businesses that supply products to Walmart.
Speaker 1: They have some of their own shop brands, such as
Speaker 1: Target or Costco, but largely they have hundreds of thousands
Speaker 1: or millions of suppliers that give them the products that
Speaker 1: you buy. And Walmart knows what's coming. Inflation is not
Speaker 1: going down anytime soon. It's going up, no matter who's
Speaker 1: in the White House. Is going up. And so when
Speaker 1: Walmart and Tarja and Costco are having pricing problems, that's
Speaker 1: a problem. I also would note that the job creation
Speaker 1: last month was about forty seven thousand jobs, which is bad.
Speaker 1: The stocks are dropping on confusion plus recession fears. Americans
Speaker 1: have fallen way behind on car payments at the highest
Speaker 1: rate in decades, ringing the story out of the Wall
Speaker 1: Street Journal quote, Americans fall behind on car payments at
Speaker 1: the highest rate in decades. In January, those missing their
Speaker 1: monthly car payments was the highest rate in thirty years
Speaker 1: seven percent. Seven percent of car loans were not paid
Speaker 1: back on time, and there's another nine percent that are
Speaker 1: more than sixty days laid on their car payments, and
Speaker 1: the Federal Reserve recently reported it. This is three weeks
Speaker 1: ago that the share of auto loans among all borrowers
Speaker 1: had transitioned into serious delinquency to find his ninety days
Speaker 1: or more, which rose an additional three percent to about
Speaker 1: ten percent in the fourth quarter of last year. The
Speaker 1: latest spike in delinquencies among subprime borrowers comes at a
Speaker 1: pivotal time for the US economy, since Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: now in charge. All these things happened, by the way,
Speaker 1: in twenty three and twenty four and in January, before
Speaker 1: Trump essentially took office. He wasn't in office till January
Speaker 1: the twentieth, and just now his policies have been articulated
Speaker 1: and they're going to take effect later this year. But
Speaker 1: I guarantee you that Donald Trump will be pinned by
Speaker 1: the media and by the Democrats with all these problems
Speaker 1: caused by a gross increase in government spending a forty
Speaker 1: five percent increase since twenty nineteen. Add on top of
Speaker 1: that a trillion dollar deficit, every trade deficit every year
Speaker 1: as far as the eye can see, and entitlements that
Speaker 1: are through the roof. The way to solve the problem
Speaker 1: is well known, which is increase the retirement age for
Speaker 1: those under the age of forty five from sixty six
Speaker 1: to sixty eight. And for those of us on Social
Speaker 1: Security that don't need the money, you don't get the money,
Speaker 1: and the other ways you can cut around the sides.
Speaker 1: Also Medicaid. If you can work, you're able bodied, you
Speaker 1: out of work to take the burden off taxpayers. Medicare
Speaker 1: is another difficulty because every day there's seven thousand Americans
Speaker 1: every day of my generation who retire and sign up
Speaker 1: for Medicare, seven thousand per day, and believe me. The
Speaker 1: medical expenses are through the roof. It's typical for one
Speaker 1: American maybe to have in one lifetime above the age
Speaker 1: sixty five, more than a million dollars each in medical
Speaker 1: payments and pharmaceutical drugs, et cetera. Not unusual at all,
Speaker 1: and honestly, we can't afford it. So if you're rich
Speaker 1: and you can afford your own medical care, you should
Speaker 1: do that. And if you don't need Social Security because
Speaker 1: of financial considerations, you shouldn't get it, And that would
Speaker 1: help those that don't have the same financial means. And
Speaker 1: to raise the retirement age from sixty six right now
Speaker 1: to sixty eight up to the age of seventy for
Speaker 1: those under forty five years old. It's a smart way
Speaker 1: to go. But I'm not sure politically we can do
Speaker 1: any of that stuff because it takes sixty votes in
Speaker 1: the Senate and it's unlikely the Democrats are going to
Speaker 1: play ball with that kind of stuff. So you add
Speaker 1: this all together. One of the first payments a person
Speaker 1: makes is to their car payment, because without a car,
Speaker 1: you can't get around. It's difficult. When you have record
Speaker 1: delinquencies and high rates. That's an early indicator that the
Speaker 1: recession is coming. Throw on top of that the uncertainties
Speaker 1: in the world, and there are many uncertainties in the world,
Speaker 1: but you know what they are. And it's a major problem.
Speaker 1: And Donald Trump is going to be victimized by the
Speaker 1: policies of the past four or five years, of which
Speaker 1: he had no control over, but he'll be pinned with it.
Speaker 1: And twenty nineteen from now a forty five percent increase
Speaker 1: in federal government budgeting. Forty five percent increase in the
Speaker 1: last five years from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable have we had forty five percent? And also hiring
Speaker 1: of federal employees has gone up by something in the
Speaker 1: range of one hundred and fifty thousand federal employees who
Speaker 1: are put on for the past four years that are
Speaker 1: now trying to be let go by Donald Trump. But
Speaker 1: that's damn near impossible. But the stocks are dropping, Recession
Speaker 1: fears are mounting. Suppliers of an s by Walmart to
Speaker 1: cut their prices. The trade deficit has surged to levels
Speaker 1: in the month of January. Card delinquencies are rampant, and
Speaker 1: sometime in the next two weeks is going to be
Speaker 1: something called a cr a Continuing Resolution a CR, and
Speaker 1: that means that the Republicans have to sign on to
Speaker 1: the idea that the current spending will continue until the
Speaker 1: next CR, in the next CR, in the next CR,
Speaker 1: and that means that the moneys for the Department of Education,
Speaker 1: the moneies for USAID are going to be agreed upon
Speaker 1: by the Republicans to continue. How does that work? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I do not know, But those in the
Speaker 1: know say there's some difficult days ahead to try now
Speaker 1: to get your financial house in order. One good thing,
Speaker 1: it appears that mortgage rates are going to come down,
Speaker 1: so that's a positive. But job creation is difficult. You
Speaker 1: heard David Young from Warren County talk about guest worker programs,
Speaker 1: which is a wonderful thing. If Americans won't take certain
Speaker 1: jobs because they don't want to work, or life's too easy,
Speaker 1: or why do I have to work when I get
Speaker 1: stuff for nothing, have a guest worker program. Knowing who
Speaker 1: the illegals are and make them legal, have them guest workers.
Speaker 1: We have a guest worker program right now, by the way,
Speaker 1: make it ten times larger. And if those around the
Speaker 1: world want to come, we know who they are. Here's
Speaker 1: your fingerprints. A little bit of your history. This is
Speaker 1: where you're going to live. You're going to pay taxes,
Speaker 1: by the way, sales tax, social security taxes, et cetera.
Speaker 1: And if you want to send money back home, so
Speaker 1: be it. But we want to know who you are,
Speaker 1: where you came from, what's your record, and what are
Speaker 1: you going to do. And it's got to be renewed
Speaker 1: every two or three years, and then bring in tens
Speaker 1: of millions of workers, which, by the way, or here anyway,
Speaker 1: either above the table or beyond below the table, so
Speaker 1: many Americans refuse to work. In addition to all that,
Speaker 1: we have a terrible education problem in which our schools
Speaker 1: are not preparing kids for the for the jobs of
Speaker 1: the future. I noted the letter to the editor of
Speaker 1: the Inquir Burrow Love put it in the editor and
Speaker 1: which there's a woman studies person who is somewhat offended
Speaker 1: that women's studies and DEI enrollments are down because her
Speaker 1: diploma will be worthless in the future, in the world
Speaker 1: of the future. Well, yes, if you come out of
Speaker 1: UC or Xavier, NKU and your major in women's studies
Speaker 1: are the effects of DEI. Hopefully those are not marketable skills.
Speaker 1: In the future. You may know a lot about stuff
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. I know a lot about stuff that
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, but I can tell you you're not going
Speaker 1: to be a productive citizen. It's going to be difficult
Speaker 1: and difficult and difficult. And so we need to reform
Speaker 1: completely education. And I don't think we have the power
Speaker 1: to do it. The judges will stop it or the
Speaker 1: Democrats won't agree to it. Donald Trump can do all
Speaker 1: that he can do, but it's going to be less
Speaker 1: than what he should do because of the system that
Speaker 1: we have, and we have a great system. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: trade our problems for anyone in the face of the earth.
Speaker 1: And America is better positioned now than every country and
Speaker 1: the face of the earth to continue toward greatness. We
Speaker 1: finally have a president that'll think outside the box and
Speaker 1: do things to make America great again. And for this
Speaker 1: to succeed, jd Vance has got to be the next
Speaker 1: president for eight years. We can't go through four years
Speaker 1: of Trump and back to Biden and four years of
Speaker 1: Trump done back to I don't know, Kamala Harris, are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? And then keep that going for it. No,
Speaker 1: we can't survive. We can't continue with two trillion dollars
Speaker 1: a year and national deficits added to the debt. We
Speaker 1: can't continue with a trillion dollars a year and trade
Speaker 1: deficits in which we send dollars overseas and get little
Speaker 1: or nothing back. We can't do it. Then we can't
Speaker 1: survive long term, five to ten years. The country we
Speaker 1: turn over our kids is going to be significantly less
Speaker 1: than the country given to us by our parents. And
Speaker 1: I know it, and you know it. We've got to
Speaker 1: buckle up. The behavior of the Democrats recently, it's been reprehensible.
Speaker 1: It's been cartoonish contindue. Today when al Green was censured
Speaker 1: for standing up and disrupting the speech of the President
Speaker 1: and the House of Representatives and then shaking as Kane,
Speaker 1: and then there were several dozen or so Democrats as
Speaker 1: he was being censored, enveloped him as al Green raised
Speaker 1: his Kane again about ten thirty this morning, and they're
Speaker 1: all singing, we shall overcome, overcome what your own racism, overcome,
Speaker 1: what your own bad behavior, overcome, what your cartoonish, ridiculous
Speaker 1: acts committed on Tuesday night, Well, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Thank god, we moved to a better day. So let's
Speaker 1: continue and stay tuned for this. I read this book
Speaker 1: recently from Eric Dosenhall about how the Mob and others
Speaker 1: had been used by the FBI, the CIA, and by
Speaker 1: presidents from FDR forward for the betterment of our society
Speaker 1: in a sense and did in fact. Is it true
Speaker 1: that the Mob elected John F. Kennedy in nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: stealing one hundred thousand votes in Chicago? Is it true
Speaker 1: that the Mob went into the Ports of Call in
Speaker 1: New York Harbor and beat up Nazi sympathizers under the
Speaker 1: behest of the FBI? Is it true that LBJ had
Speaker 1: numerous sexual affairs. Is it true that Donald Trump did
Speaker 1: not build a Trump Tower with a steal so he
Speaker 1: could pay off the concrete makers in New York City?
Speaker 1: Is that true? And my guests coming up says a
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff is true. So if a line
Speaker 1: becomes available, you know the routine five three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 1: seven pounds seven hundred, the new at and t difficult
Speaker 1: days lie ahead, and the helmsman is going to be
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and nodded Kamala Harris and hopefully for years
Speaker 1: to come. We're in a cycle where Americans though we
Speaker 1: didn't need a real leader with real coyones and a
Speaker 1: vision that Donald Trump has and that Kamala Harris and
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi lack. Let's continue twelve fifty six, Home You Reds.
Speaker 1: Three weeks from day it all begins. We need the
Speaker 1: Reds back in Tito I trust on news radio seven hundred, Wow,
Speaker 1: Billy and the Great American. Of course, for years we've
Speaker 1: been told that the Mob, the gangsters have connections to
Speaker 1: the citadels of power in Washington, d C. And it's
Speaker 1: alleged somehow that the Kennedy election took place in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty because of John F. Kennedy's dad that kind of
Speaker 1: set it up through the mob and through the mayor
Speaker 1: who was mayor. Daily also have some indications of Frank
Speaker 1: Sinatra's connection to the Mob and Hollywood connections. Also, there's
Speaker 1: been allegations that Donald Trump has ties to construction and
Speaker 1: gambling cartels and more, and that Biden's early links to
Speaker 1: the Irishman Frank sheeron the laboring in official and enforce
Speaker 1: over Jimmy Hoffa, And there's always that connection, that belief,
Speaker 1: but so much has not come out. Eric Desenhall is
Speaker 1: the author of a great book out now. It's called
Speaker 1: Wise Guys and the White House Gangsters Presidents and Deals
Speaker 1: they made. And once again Eric Dosenhall, Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, let's deal with
Speaker 1: the current president before we talk about the Kennedys and
Speaker 1: the Johnson's and Jaeger Hoover, etc. What are the ties,
Speaker 1: if any, of Donald Trump to construction and gambling cartels.
Speaker 1: Give me a full report.
Speaker 4: It's very straightforward. Bill. In order to build buildings in
Speaker 4: New York, you needed labor help, and labor was controlled
Speaker 4: by the mob. What's interesting is nothing that Donald Trump
Speaker 4: did is provably illegal, So how he worked with the
Speaker 4: mob is very straightforward. When he built Trump Tower, he
Speaker 4: did not use steel like most buildings are. Steel is
Speaker 4: an international industry. He used concrete. Concrete is controlled was
Speaker 4: at that time by two companies that owned by the
Speaker 4: Gambino and Genevie's families, and a little bit by some others.
Speaker 4: So all Donald Trump did is he paid very well
Speaker 4: for that concrete and he got labor peace. There is
Speaker 4: no law against paying too much. And when people when
Speaker 4: people say things like when I mean Trump drives people crazy,
Speaker 4: when he says, that just makes me smart when he's
Speaker 4: accused of something. But whether you like him or not,
Speaker 4: I think he might be right about that.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: I grew up in the Atlantic City area where he
Speaker 4: also had holdings, and one of my uncles, who was
Speaker 4: a colorful guy, told me very simply how he got
Speaker 4: labor support. There was a guy named Salvi Testa, a mobster.
Speaker 4: His father was Phil Testa, known as the Chickenman from
Speaker 4: the Springsteen song They Blew Up the Chickenman in Philly
Speaker 4: Last Night. And Salvi Testa had a property worth one
Speaker 4: hundred and ninety five thousand dollars. Trump bought it for
Speaker 4: one point one million.
Speaker 1: Oh, how come he overpaid? What about the art of
Speaker 1: the deal.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, sometimes you pay too much. Even smart
Speaker 4: guys they sometimes accidentally do things. So what are you
Speaker 4: going to do? No law against paying too much? We
Speaker 4: all do it.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about nineteen sixty. You have a great section
Speaker 1: of the book about the mob and John F. Kennedy
Speaker 1: and his father, Joseph Kennedy. And the legend is that,
Speaker 1: of course, if Illinois had gone with Richard Nixon, if
Speaker 1: that had occurred, Nixon would have become the president Kennedy
Speaker 1: never would have been the president. Maybe in nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: four he wouldn't have been assassinated, etc. What is the
Speaker 1: connection to the Chicago Outfit and Mayor Daily and Joseph
Speaker 1: Kennedy and getting JFK elected.
Speaker 4: Well, when people talk about the Kennedys and the Mob,
Speaker 4: you really have to be specific because Bobby Kennedy and
Speaker 4: Jack Kennedy went after the mob. Although Jack Kennedy had
Speaker 4: these friends in Las Vegas. When JFK was running for
Speaker 4: president he needed labor help. His father first went to
Speaker 4: a guy he knew in Florida named Jimmy Alow. If
Speaker 4: you saw the movie The Godfather Part two, there was
Speaker 4: a character Johnny Nola that was based on Jimmy alo Meyer.
Speaker 4: Lansky's partner, Meyer was Himen Roth and The Godfather, and
Speaker 4: Jimmy Alow said, look, we just got done with Cuba.
Speaker 4: We don't want to start messing around with this stuff.
Speaker 4: We're licking our wounds. Talk to your buddy Sinatra. Joe
Speaker 4: Kennedy talked to Frank Sinatra, who then spoke to the
Speaker 4: Chicago Outfit boss sam Gy and Kanna. Interestingly, a lot
Speaker 4: of the other mob bosses in Chicago were not thrilled
Speaker 4: about the idea of doing business with the politicians because
Speaker 4: they didn't trust them, and I think that that not
Speaker 4: all mobsters were very high on the idea of working
Speaker 4: with working with political figures. In any event, what the
Speaker 4: Chicago outfit provided to JFK was help with labor getting
Speaker 4: out the vote in Illinois, West Virginia, New Jersey. Now
Speaker 4: there's a big question mark in my mind about whether
Speaker 4: any of this turn earned the election. But the point
Speaker 4: to me is that help from the mafia was sought,
Speaker 4: and help from the mafia was received. Where things get
Speaker 4: interesting with the Kennedys is the plots to kill Castro.
Speaker 4: There is no question in my mind JFK and RFK
Speaker 4: wanted Castro dead. When RFK found out that the mob
Speaker 4: who he was prosecuting was used, he was furious, and
Speaker 4: the CIA ended up saying, look, Bobby, you want this
Speaker 4: guy dead, but you only want us to use the
Speaker 4: nicest people to do it.
Speaker 1: Come on, not gonna work that way now. And in fact,
Speaker 1: there were numerous attempts to kill Fidel Castro put together
Speaker 1: by the United States. Is that correct?
Speaker 4: There were about eight attempts involving the mob they all failed,
Speaker 4: and there's a question mark about how hard the mob
Speaker 4: tried and whether or not what they were really looking
Speaker 4: for was to get leniency from prosecute from the Kennedys,
Speaker 4: to get something on them, because quite frankly, if you
Speaker 4: talk to the people from that era who were involved
Speaker 4: with the mob, they knew Havana was over, they knew
Speaker 4: they weren't getting their casinos back, but their motive was
Speaker 4: probably different, which was to get something on the Kennedys,
Speaker 4: and they didn't. They didn't really succeed and ended up
Speaker 4: walking away licking their wounds. I also think that one
Speaker 4: of the conclusions I have in the book is that overall,
Speaker 4: the people, the politicians and the businessmen who knew how
Speaker 4: to use the mob, shared better than the mobsters themselves.
Speaker 1: Assuming it's fair to say the mob believed they were
Speaker 1: owed something after JFK's election because of West Virginia, New Jersey,
Speaker 1: and Illinois to turn the election toward toward away from
Speaker 1: Nexton and toward JFK. Because please explain.
Speaker 4: That, well, they thought they did help, and sam Gy
Speaker 4: and Conna in particular help, and then you start getting
Speaker 4: into the preposterous allegations that they had something to do
Speaker 4: with the assassination. They most certainly did not. One of
Speaker 4: the things that made mobsters of that generation smart is
Speaker 4: they knew their place. The mob, the Chicago outfit particularly,
Speaker 4: was wired up by the FBI illegally. By the way,
Speaker 4: there is nothing. They were absolutely shocked by the assassination.
Speaker 4: They weren't exactly unhappy about it. But one of the
Speaker 4: things the wire taps picked up is the mob guys going,
Speaker 4: we bet we're going to get blamed for this and
Speaker 4: they're going to kill us. Because one of the things
Speaker 4: that you know, you take a mobster like my hometown guy,
Speaker 4: Angelo Bruno of Philadelphia in South Jersey, they picked him
Speaker 4: up on tape saying that one of his guys shoved
Speaker 4: an FBI agent and the FBI guys nearly beat him
Speaker 4: to death. The mob knew who who had the muscle,
Speaker 4: and it wasn't them. When compared to the federal government,
Speaker 4: you don't mess with the Feds.
Speaker 1: Did Sam Ga Kanna, the gangster in and around Chicago,
Speaker 1: and John F. Kennedy, didn't they share the same girlfriend?
Speaker 4: Judy Campbell later Judith Exner, that is unequivocally true, no
Speaker 4: question that that's true. What is probably not true. Were
Speaker 4: the allegations that JFK was stuffing briefcases filled with cash
Speaker 4: to take to Sam g and Kanna. JFK and his
Speaker 4: brother were far removed from the kind of mob slash
Speaker 4: political activity that went on. That was their father, who
Speaker 4: knew them from needing labor support, not by the way,
Speaker 4: from bootlegging, which is a myth. Joe Kennedy was not
Speaker 4: a bootlegger. He was too smart to be a bootlegger.
Speaker 4: He was able to find ways to do things technically legally,
Speaker 4: and that's what made him such a character.
Speaker 1: Did Ja Jegger Hoover, the director of the FBI for
Speaker 1: like thirty five or forty years, go to John F.
Speaker 1: Kennedy and knew that JFK had the third on Kennedy
Speaker 1: and that did he? Now, John F. Kennedy, look you
Speaker 1: got to leave Judith Exner alone because that's Giacana's girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Did that ever happen?
Speaker 4: Yes? At first he went to Bobby who was nominally
Speaker 4: his boss, and Bobby knew his brother had a zipper problem,
Speaker 4: and they and Jaeger Hoover spoke to the Kennedys and said, look,
Speaker 4: you've got seventy telephone calls logged in the White House
Speaker 4: from this woman. This is not smart. And so what
Speaker 4: the deal was was Bobby agreed to get his brother
Speaker 4: to stay away from Judy Campbell, and what Hoover wanted
Speaker 4: in return was the right to wire tap Martin Luther King,
Speaker 4: and he received that from Bobby Kennedy, which which.
Speaker 1: Is all illegal. So the Kennedy's wiretap King, and that's
Speaker 1: where they found out all the dirt on Martin Luther
Speaker 1: King Junior with all the girlfriends correct of King.
Speaker 4: Yes, they did find that out. I think that the
Speaker 4: wire taps of the mob at that time were illegal,
Speaker 4: but I believe some of the wire taps of Martin
Speaker 4: Luther King were technically legal. But what they were looking
Speaker 4: for it was absolutely vicious what they did to King
Speaker 4: in terms of getting him in sexual positions, which is
Speaker 4: the kind of thing that Hoover really really was looking
Speaker 4: for out of King. And the issue, by the way,
Speaker 4: was not straight racism, although that may have played into it.
Speaker 4: Hoover was absolutely focused on communism and was convinced that
Speaker 4: the Civil rights movement was funded by Moscow, some of
Speaker 4: which is true, but the civil rights movement would have
Speaker 4: happened anyway.
Speaker 1: Let's get to another category which is fascinating in your book,
Speaker 1: Eric Desenhall, which is wise guys in the White House,
Speaker 1: how LBJ and the FBI used the mob to hunt
Speaker 1: down the killers of civil rights activists. Now as through
Speaker 1: that again, LBJ and the FBI used the mob to
Speaker 1: kill the killers as civil rights activists explain that.
Speaker 4: One JF LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act in nineteen
Speaker 4: sixty four, he was doing very well. Soon after civil
Speaker 4: rights workers were disappearing and getting killed, most famously the
Speaker 4: three civil Rights Workers. This looked very bad because what
Speaker 4: it showed in Johnson's view that he looked like he
Speaker 4: wasn't sincere about civil rights if he let something like
Speaker 4: this stand. And so he goes Hoover, who really didn't
Speaker 4: want to help out on civil rights, and he said,
Speaker 4: I don't care what you have to do. Find them.
Speaker 4: And Hoover had a problem on his hands. He didn't
Speaker 4: have had not infiltrated the KKK in any meaningful way.
Speaker 4: They had just flipped a guy named Greg Scarpa of
Speaker 4: the Colombo crime family, an absolutely psychopathic killer, and they
Speaker 4: dispatched Greg Scarpa on several different occasions to Mississippi and
Speaker 4: other areas of the South to torture KKK members and
Speaker 4: sympathizers to give up the killers of the civil rights activists.
Speaker 4: If you look at the movie Mississippi Burning, they have
Speaker 4: an African American FBI agent torturing the KKK. It that
Speaker 4: was not what happened. It was a mafio so named
Speaker 4: Greg Scarpa, who was for thirty five years or so
Speaker 4: was an active member of the Columbo crime family. And
Speaker 4: he was also a snitch and a torturer for the FBI,
Speaker 4: at least during those early years.
Speaker 1: So the FAI indirectly or directly tortured the killers of
Speaker 1: civil rights activists in order to hunt down there was
Speaker 1: four of them that were killed, plus Medgar Everans. They
Speaker 1: wanted to find out who did it. And so LBJ
Speaker 1: kind of wink wink, nod nod to the FBI, do
Speaker 1: what you got to do, find out what had happened.
Speaker 1: And Jaeger Hoover was pulled to the party by his ankles. First,
Speaker 1: he didn't want to look him. He didn't want hunt
Speaker 1: him down because Ethi King, Martin Luther King, was controlled
Speaker 1: by communism. He didn't want no part of that. Now,
Speaker 1: let's move on to the deal caught with Lucky Luciano
Speaker 1: to protect the New York City waterfront during World War Two.
Speaker 1: This was FDR explained what Luciana did to protect America
Speaker 1: and believe it or not, isn't it true that most
Speaker 1: gangsters were somewhat patriotic?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Very I got a hold the guy who ran the
Speaker 4: program for the government and for the mob in the
Speaker 4: World War II was Mayor Lansky and who some of
Speaker 4: his family have been friends of mine for years. I
Speaker 4: had access to his thinking, his records, and Mayor Lansky
Speaker 4: was approached. Here's what happened. A few weeks after Pearl Harbor,
Speaker 4: the largest cruise ship in the world, the Normandy, blew
Speaker 4: up and caught fire in New York. It was suspected
Speaker 4: at that time it was Nazi sabotage because Nazi U
Speaker 4: boats were seen going up and down the Hudson and
Speaker 4: off the coast of New York. The Navy went to
Speaker 4: the docks to try to get cooperation to be on
Speaker 4: the lookout for Nazi sympathizers, but the doc workers told
Speaker 4: them no, we're not going to help people in uniform
Speaker 4: because they thought they didn't want to be snitches for
Speaker 4: the government. They realized they had a problem. So they
Speaker 4: had a problem because many of the Italians resented the
Speaker 4: government because Italians were declared enemy aliens by FDR. So
Speaker 4: what ended up happening is they realized, you know, we
Speaker 4: better go to a different type of mobster. They went
Speaker 4: to may Or Lansky, who was Jewish and was Lucky
Speaker 4: Luciano's partner. Lanski visited Luciano got an agreement to get
Speaker 4: cooperation on the docks, to allow the Navy to infiltrate
Speaker 4: the docks, and to also harass Nazi sympathizers. I mean,
Speaker 4: they were beating the daylights out of them all over
Speaker 4: New York. And it's hard to imagine in this day
Speaker 4: and age there was a large Nazi movement in New
Speaker 4: York City, but there was, and so the mob provided
Speaker 4: two services. They harassed Nazi sympathizers and made the docks
Speaker 4: inhospitable for Zazi saboteurs. But when it came time to
Speaker 4: invade Sicily, as General Patton did, Lanski and Luciano provided
Speaker 4: contacts in Sicily for the American military to use to
Speaker 4: understand the beaches better, Where is it better to land,
Speaker 4: How can we get support from mafia in Sicily, and
Speaker 4: at the end of it, what Luciano got in return
Speaker 4: is he was in prison, and he had been in
Speaker 4: prison since nineteen thirty six, and he ended up being
Speaker 4: had was freed from prison, but he was deported. And
Speaker 4: one of the other reasons Meyer Lansky was approached was
Speaker 4: he had attempted to enlist in the army, but he
Speaker 4: was too old, he was forty, and too short he
Speaker 4: was five to four. But Meyer was so taken with
Speaker 4: his experience with the military that he sent his son
Speaker 4: to West Point.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. One of the popularities of the
Speaker 1: Godfather movies and The Yellowstone is street justice that somehow
Speaker 1: the American is. You know, the Dutton Ranch and also
Speaker 1: the Godfather, there's street justice. And when you bring up
Speaker 1: Nazi sympathizers in New York City, I see again there's
Speaker 1: Hamas sympathizers in New York City shutting down Bernard College
Speaker 1: today because they're in league with Hamas. I can only imagine,
Speaker 1: going back forty or fifty years before social media, what
Speaker 1: the FBI and what the mob would have done to
Speaker 1: Hammas sympathizers. It would not have been good.
Speaker 4: Well, there's no question in my mind that at one
Speaker 4: time in history. I mean, there's really no big Jewish
Speaker 4: rackets anymore, but back in the mid mid twentieth century
Speaker 4: there were. There is little doubt in my mind what
Speaker 4: Lanski and Luciano would have done the deal with Hamas
Speaker 4: in this day and age. But unfortunately they're so well
Speaker 4: funded by Iran, and they have so much help on
Speaker 4: the left, it's very, very hard to dislodge them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Mob would have done it. But nonetheless,
Speaker 1: the book is Wise Guys in the White House. The
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Speaker 1: much more. But Eric, thanks again for coming on the
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show, and good luck with the book. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thanks so much, Bill, God bless America. Let's continue with
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Speaker 1: killed me. Got nothing to talk about. DEVI a talk
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Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. College basketball Last night Willie Xavier makes it
Speaker 1: six in a row on their on their roll to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, beating up on Butler ninety one seventy eight.
Speaker 1: The Muskie's are now twenty and ten. How about that?
Speaker 1: But but in Clifton, what about West my name's Wess.
Speaker 1: Reports are that they were booing and leaving early from
Speaker 1: Fifth Third Arena to beat the traffic in Clifton Senior Night,
Speaker 1: ten point favorite, Thank you. Kala State comes to town
Speaker 1: fifty four to forty nine. Senior Night, they score forty
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Speaker 1: million dollars deal with the Reeds and that's all no
Speaker 1: state income tax and Raiders scores. They're a terrible team
Speaker 1: high school. Oh back to the Bengals, though, of course,
Speaker 1: placing that franchise tag on t. Higgins Monday. Since then,
Speaker 1: according to the Athletic multiple teams have reached out to
Speaker 1: the Bengals about trading for the star receiver. But I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna unless they get whoever in a trade.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going anywhere. I am I getting
Speaker 1: some offensive or defensive lineman. Let's see Purcell Mary and
Speaker 1: senior d Alexander in Springboro. Senior Brent Martin here nominees
Speaker 1: for the for twenty twenty five Ohio Miss Basketball Award.
Speaker 1: Seig Do we have urine test? Around here. I think
Speaker 1: we used to ex Bengal player reveals he never used
Speaker 1: his own urine. That's my man, pac Man, pac Man,
Speaker 1: pack Man, Hello world. Is he implying that he wouldn't
Speaker 1: have passed.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you. Could you pee in a bottle
Speaker 1: and pass it? Pass it to who? I mean he
Speaker 1: passed the test? Oh yeah, I think so well, he said,
Speaker 1: quote I cheated at the program like I was really good.
Speaker 1: People don't know how smart I am. I don't play
Speaker 1: no more. But like, I've never used my urine for
Speaker 1: urine test. Not one time I use someone else's s.
Speaker 1: Anyone ever said to you, hey, say say can I
Speaker 1: have a maybe a vial of urine? No you? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they have a lot of personnel. Well okay, no, I don't.
Speaker 1: Well I guess they got the drug testing over there
Speaker 1: or the am side. We don't think it's it's mental
Speaker 1: versus well, Sarah Elise has used my urine more than once.
Speaker 1: Maybe I shouldn't say that, Should I say that? I
Speaker 1: think you just did. Deon Sanders, the show's co host,
Speaker 1: then try to tell Jones that such cheating can't happen.
Speaker 1: He says, what are they going to do to pac
Speaker 1: Man Jones, I can't do noth again. Is he locked up? No,
Speaker 1: he's he's still around you. I don't know it, says,
Speaker 1: Hello world, Hello world. Don't say it can't happen, pop pop,
Speaker 1: because believe me, it did happen.
Speaker 3: But how do you do you?
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's not the only guy to ever do that. Allegedly,
Speaker 1: the tester goes with you against the urinal only kind
Speaker 1: of watches things materialize. So unless you're really that's quite
Speaker 1: a job. What a job. I'd love that watching somebody
Speaker 1: about having a vile man walker Jack Jack Jack, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, go tigers. The reason it doesn't happen anymore,
Speaker 1: according to Ne and Dion, is they go in there
Speaker 1: with you and they watch, they watch the urine come out.
Speaker 1: Now that's tough duty right there. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: That's what I want to do. That's what I want
Speaker 1: to do in retirement. Watch a be a pee watcher
Speaker 1: for the National Football League and so Oba Sanders then
Speaker 1: says to pac Man, you sure you did that. I'm
Speaker 1: going to give you all the secrets right now. One
Speaker 1: of the believe me, will leave Adam pac Man Jones
Speaker 1: is probably not the only player ever to fake you
Speaker 1: believe me. Jones is forty one, right, the same age
Speaker 1: of as Lebron James. Right, he comes, Well, let me
Speaker 1: tell you how to do it. The cups they give
Speaker 1: you and then Sanders they stop right there, no more
Speaker 1: new you didn't want to, right, I guess you. I
Speaker 1: don't know how you do it. SMMBN types. They'll tell you.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Don't ask me. I don't know how
Speaker 1: they do it. He was suspended according to the record here,
Speaker 1: he was suspended This is pac Man for off the
Speaker 1: season activity and eighty was suspended six games after alcohol
Speaker 1: related event that led to increased drug testing for him,
Speaker 1: and he relaxes marijuana policies. But nonetheless he said it beat.
Speaker 1: The test was very simple. Let me show you how.
Speaker 1: I'd say, that's okay, I'm good, thank you. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Now what about Wes, don't get me
Speaker 1: in this mess, Miller. I mean the Faith almost dropped
Speaker 1: an F bomb on the postgame show last night. Just
Speaker 1: came that close to dropping another one. That's a problem.
Speaker 1: If we get fined. He's paying it now. We'll see
Speaker 1: about that. It was live. I assume you can't right,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, no bleep available live. I mean no,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. He said, I
Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't know what team that was
Speaker 1: out there. It was his team. Oh I don't. I
Speaker 1: mean he's the coach, right. One thing is I told that.
Speaker 1: He told that as ease guy. He said, don't foul?
Speaker 1: What does do foul? Well? I mean you know when
Speaker 1: you were when you were coaching Jerry would at Park.
Speaker 1: I mean you know the kids. Did the kids listen
Speaker 1: to you?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: I was the leader of the pack. I mean what
Speaker 1: about when you were on the Xavier baseball team up
Speaker 1: when you threw that ball and he and I were
Speaker 1: co captains. Yeah, I ruled the team with an iron grip.
Speaker 1: And you told a guy what to do or something,
Speaker 1: did it and he didn't do it again? Did he?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Never. That's why it is today because these players have well,
Speaker 1: they they're they're they're paid professionals out in college. There's
Speaker 1: no more recruiting. The longer Sean Miller has a team,
Speaker 1: the better they get. Correct. The longer West Miller has
Speaker 1: a team, the worse they get. Now that's a nine points.
Speaker 1: This is March that should have been a first This
Speaker 1: is more half. Yeah, and Xavier is gonna win on Saturday,
Speaker 1: aren't they like Providence. Yes, Now they're gonna be in
Speaker 1: the going to be seven in a row, and then
Speaker 1: they're gonna get a first round by in the Big East.
Speaker 1: Then they're gonna then they're probably gonna win that game
Speaker 1: and then play somebody else in the in the second round.
Speaker 1: Savior is the last team to win the National Tournament
Speaker 1: National Invitation Tournament. And then you see it's like, what
Speaker 1: do you do? I mean, you're seventeen and thirteen. You
Speaker 1: got one more you got one more game, I think
Speaker 1: Saturday at Oklahoma State. Good luck? And then you know,
Speaker 1: so you're eighteen and thirteen or seventeen and fourteen, and
Speaker 1: then you're maybe looking at the n I T or
Speaker 1: the cb I or the CBA. There's another one in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, a new another one. Well, they may do
Speaker 1: that too. Well, who's in the worst shape? You see bearcut?
Speaker 1: Football or basketball? Which one is in the worst world?
Speaker 1: I don't know too much about football this year, so
Speaker 1: I would say the round ball. They're not too happy
Speaker 1: in Clifton, not pleased. And there's a few people around
Speaker 1: here and aren't pleased, Moe, Tony Audie and also Tony
Speaker 1: the should I call my brother? He John Cunningham the
Speaker 1: ad Should I call him? He's got enough problems. He
Speaker 1: wants to meet me in Man base was booing and
Speaker 1: leaving again last according to Tony Pike, last game on
Speaker 1: the court. I mean, how come how? I mean you
Speaker 1: play your guts out. If you don't play your guts
Speaker 1: out at any game, that's the one you do, right.
Speaker 1: You want to send your seniors out. But heck, you
Speaker 1: don't know who's a senior anymore. These guys could be
Speaker 1: playing what another four years on this team, right up
Speaker 1: to six years? I don't know. So I mean, you
Speaker 1: know who's a senior anymore? I don't know. I don't either.
Speaker 1: I mean they have the big Sea, they have the
Speaker 1: big Senior Night at Kentucky. You know, they sing my
Speaker 1: old Kentucky home and stuff. But how many times those
Speaker 1: guys are going to come back? I don't know. How
Speaker 1: about pac Man Jones said, I'm all for weed. I'm
Speaker 1: all in for weed. Hello world, Weed. So your job
Speaker 1: segment is to watch a bunch of men up against
Speaker 1: the waller uran over laving themselves that's your job. Can't wait.
Speaker 1: He gave me a pair of shoes one day because
Speaker 1: Ken Griffy Junior refused to Junior would not give you shoes. Right,
Speaker 1: and you need to say, I had no shoes on
Speaker 1: that day. Why didn't shoes? And the pac Man came.
Speaker 1: It was in Uh, it was on the other side.
Speaker 1: He comes down to it, comes down the hall, gave
Speaker 1: me a new pair of shoes.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: His lawyers have been Michael Barrett, Alex Tryntefilu and Joe Eaters,
Speaker 1: and all of them say pac Man is a hell
Speaker 1: of a good guy, but he gets on the weed,
Speaker 1: gets on the funny juice, and pac Man loses it.
Speaker 1: Correct to stay off the juice and stay out of
Speaker 1: the weed, and you're in business. Now it's legal. I imagine
Speaker 1: he's smoking quite a bit, he said. He said, quote,
Speaker 1: I'm all for the weed. Now to the NFL. Can
Speaker 1: you smoke weed? I think? I think. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess you can as long as you don't get caught.
Speaker 1: I think how many other players have used what he does?
Speaker 1: All that lap lap? Yes? What would know about weed?
Speaker 1: I don't know? Yes, do you know anything about weed?
Speaker 1: Dave Yes? Okay, we got problems fifty years ago that
Speaker 1: went any weed was there? I don't know, nineteen seventies.
Speaker 1: It was in your yard. There was a lot of weeds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was in your yard.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were out there with you know, spray and
Speaker 1: he was in Sarah Leed, Syracuse.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Weed fight segment coming up next h going to be wonderful.
Speaker 1: And we got a special team coming in right. I
Speaker 1: think we've arranged for Carl Jarman. The seventh grade boys
Speaker 1: Junior High School GMC champions undefeated, untied, unscored on are
Speaker 1: going to be here. I love that at two thirty five.
Speaker 1: There you go. Let Rocky know what champions look like.
Speaker 1: Yeah he doesn't know. Yeah he went to Notre Dame
Speaker 1: Insane Nex for God's sake. Yeah, I segment. Does he knows?
Speaker 1: Sam Hobbard, he doesn't know. No, so does everybody. I
Speaker 1: want to get Sam Hilbert to raise money for Deer Park,
Speaker 1: wouldn't that be good? He'll do it. Let's get a
Speaker 1: hold of him. I think I think October let's do it.
Speaker 1: Get to hold his foundation, call him up and did
Speaker 1: a great job. Was Trey Hendrickson were about forty five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for the Deer Park net E. There you go,
Speaker 1: these sports programs, and the need have doubled because girls
Speaker 1: are playing more sports. And I said to correct and
Speaker 1: Jay Phillips and Jim Stall, let's get more money. I
Speaker 1: want to fund those girls and I want them to
Speaker 1: play softball and soccer, and girls are playing girls and
Speaker 1: boys are playing. Boy's plan anyway, if you don't, if
Speaker 1: you're if you're a Democrat, you want it the other way. Well,
Speaker 1: segment give me out of the student's report coming up
Speaker 1: next to his professor, John ellis about race, discrimination, slavery,
Speaker 1: and DEI. He puts the cheese on the cracker Willie
Speaker 1: and utter of happy birthday, the one of our own,
Speaker 1: mister Robert Trumpy, only eighty eight years young today, the Trumpster,
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Speaker 3: And I think that might have been amen. Good knockdown cooppa?
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 4: I agree?
Speaker 1: Well, I hate for you.
Speaker 6: Well yeah, but I hate to give that little guy
Speaker 6: a compliment because everything goes to his head. He does
Speaker 6: have a rather inflated ego, and that's one of his
Speaker 6: big problems. He walks around thinking he's the Lord's gift
Speaker 6: of broadcasters, and we don't really want to pump his
Speaker 6: ego anymore. But I think he's pretty good too. I
Speaker 6: think he's pretty good too.
Speaker 1: Same guy on text here from Jeff Beckham. Great, are
Speaker 1: there a David Logistics King? And he says the following
Speaker 1: to yours? Truly, what do Miller and Saderfield both have
Speaker 1: in common? Your brother John Cunningham? He needs to go first?
Speaker 1: What the But John did not hire either one? Am
Speaker 1: I right about that? I don't think so. I don't think. No, No,
Speaker 1: he hired both of them. I want to change the record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I want to change it. He
Speaker 1: did not hire any of.
Speaker 3: Them, did he? Yeah? He did? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Now how do I defend him? Good luck to you.
Speaker 1: You're gonna still invite him over at Thanksgiving? Penny this
Speaker 1: time will fall on the floor and break her pelvis. Yes,
Speaker 1: but John Cunningham is my brother. Long lived John Cunningham,
Speaker 1: though I don't know how much longer. So far, so
Speaker 1: good and Clifton, but got to see Bear Caddy fans
Speaker 1: are not happy forty nine points on Senior Hilly Victory Parkway.
Speaker 1: They're happy Sean Miller six in a row. Not West Miller,
Speaker 1: my name's West. Don't get me in this mess. My
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Speaker 9: W l W.
Speaker 1: Billy Cunningham, the Great America Good heavy with me. And
Speaker 1: at this point, the Trump administration is reversing the racism
Speaker 1: and tribalism that was part of the Biden administration, in
Speaker 1: fact part of Obama. Going back as long as we
Speaker 1: can remember, at least in my life, we've had nothing
Speaker 1: but either affirmative action, critical race theory, or DEI, which
Speaker 1: is proliferating throughout America. And when these young adults come
Speaker 1: out of college, they're ready to implement their ideas across
Speaker 1: corporate America and across the government. That is that being
Speaker 1: of a certain race or a certain sexual orientation, either
Speaker 1: as a benefit or a cost. And these immutable traits
Speaker 1: generally perceived as not being particularly relevant when it comes
Speaker 1: to merit. But that's not the way that we're being organized.
Speaker 1: Joining you and I Alis Professor John Ellis. Professor John
Speaker 1: Ellis has written several books, one of which his Critical
Speaker 1: Race Theory is an inversion of history, and his author
Speaker 1: also the author of a Short History of Relations between
Speaker 1: Peoples and Professor John Ellis, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham
Speaker 1: Show and Professor. First of all, I've read the article
Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal, which is fabulous, and you
Speaker 1: begin by saying, attribute a sorts to critical race theory
Speaker 1: success that the Trump administration will make it's a ratific
Speaker 1: ratification a priority. Describe what America was beginning I guess
Speaker 1: about a month and a half ago when Trump took office.
Speaker 1: How many years as CRT and DEO percolated into the groundwater.
Speaker 1: I would note that at the Oscars, you can't be
Speaker 1: qualified even to be considered for a movie to get
Speaker 1: some Oscar award if you're not CRT and DEI compliant.
Speaker 1: So there were one hundred and twenty movies that were
Speaker 1: not screened as possible getting the best picture because they
Speaker 1: didn't have enough gay people, or disabled people or persons
Speaker 1: of color. First of all, described to the American people
Speaker 1: before Trump office, what is the status of DEI and
Speaker 1: CRT in America as of about a month or two ago?
Speaker 3: Well, as of that, before Trump started to get it
Speaker 3: under control, it had really risen to the point where
Speaker 3: it had you know, it's had the whole society by
Speaker 3: the throats, I mean government agencies were in the group
Speaker 3: of DEI advocates. All the universities, of course, I mean
Speaker 3: they're totally devoted to a DEI t I really, I
Speaker 3: mean mostly acuity inclusion. This was really originally a way
Speaker 3: of getting around the ban on affirmative action. Like for example,
Speaker 3: California banned affirmative action. I mean that's they banned the
Speaker 3: process of considering a skin color as a qualification for employment.
Speaker 3: It banned that in nineteen ninety six. Now ever since
Speaker 3: then the universities have been trying to think of ways
Speaker 3: to get around it, and this fancy title diversity equity
Speaker 3: inclusion was in fact their main way of doing it.
Speaker 3: So it kind of inflated the whole thing with fell
Speaker 3: out of fancy terminology at a lot of complexity and
Speaker 3: so on. But it was just as illegal. It's the
Speaker 3: same idea, but actually the whole society had been almost
Speaker 3: taken over by it. I mean, our schools, our universities
Speaker 3: are training for the professions. Like for example, if you
Speaker 3: wanted to be a journalist, you can bet that every
Speaker 3: journalism school on every campus of every university was going
Speaker 3: to give you a big dose of DEI in your training.
Speaker 3: Being for lawyers, same people are almost thing. So it
Speaker 3: had really got our society by the throat. And as
Speaker 3: soon as Trump came into office, he just started to
Speaker 3: ban the whole thing. And most of the citizens of
Speaker 3: this country brigs lib relief because no one likes it
Speaker 3: except these people that have managed to take over, uh,
Speaker 3: the universities. They've taken over uh, you know, corporate boards,
Speaker 3: They've taken over professional associations. You know, they've taken over
Speaker 3: non governmental organizations. And when that happens, it like in California,
Speaker 3: even the most left wing of the states, they've been
Speaker 3: two ballots on on these ideas, both of them our side,
Speaker 3: one handsomely. I mean, so even in the most left
Speaker 3: wing state in the country, d I goes down if
Speaker 3: you put it on the ballot. So what these people
Speaker 3: do is they work still fully. They get hold of
Speaker 3: corporate boards, they get hold of professional associations, so behind
Speaker 3: closed doors they managed to get their ideas into place.
Speaker 3: They work secretly, and they you know, they twist ms everywhere,
Speaker 3: and before you know it, the whole society has been
Speaker 3: you know, infiltrated with this stuff.
Speaker 1: And you know, you know, professor, God help you, I'm
Speaker 1: a straight white male, and I'm happy with that status.
Speaker 1: And I would note that the Wall Street journalists said
Speaker 1: in other stories and that there's about a seven billion
Speaker 1: dollar industry wrapped around DEI and critical race theory. That is,
Speaker 1: those who make money out of this are going to
Speaker 1: fight like warrior poets to make sure it continues. And
Speaker 1: it begins merely as a first grader or second grader
Speaker 1: or a third grader. By the time you go through twelve
Speaker 1: to fifteen years of education. I'm a lawyer, you go
Speaker 1: through that. I was in school directly or indirectly until
Speaker 1: I was like twenty five, twenty six years old, during
Speaker 1: a time where it was a big deal. And I
Speaker 1: can recall the Baki decision in which the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: ruled thirty years ago before that, twenty years before that,
Speaker 1: you can't use race when determining whether someone gets hired
Speaker 1: or fired or whatever, because that is shall we say,
Speaker 1: racism itself. But the Left has turned this idea on
Speaker 1: its head. If you don't believe in racial selections, then
Speaker 1: you're the racist. You say in your story, the accusations
Speaker 1: made in closed training sessions are astonishingly venomous, arrogant white supremacy,
Speaker 1: is ubiquitous. White rage results when that supremacy is challenged.
Speaker 1: Whites hold money in power because they stole it from
Speaker 1: other racists. Systematic racism and capitalism keep the injustices going
Speaker 1: more so they turn the argument on you and me
Speaker 1: and other people would think, wait a minute, race should
Speaker 1: not count. That we're the racist when we say we
Speaker 1: shouldn't be racist, But they're the racist because they say
Speaker 1: it does count. I say it doesn't count. They say
Speaker 1: it does count. Where in the hell in twenty years
Speaker 1: from now, where we're going to be it this continues,
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Trump presidency. If he's not successful
Speaker 1: and this continues, we're in trouble. I think we're in
Speaker 1: trouble now.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're in big trouble because, let's face it,
Speaker 3: I mean, the merit principle is a way of getting
Speaker 3: talent into the place where it can do the most good.
Speaker 3: So basically, it's like Adam Smith's unseen hand. You know,
Speaker 3: the unseen hand for Adam Smith was the free market
Speaker 3: got material and goods into the place where they mattered
Speaker 3: most at the right time. Well, this is the same
Speaker 3: with the merit principle. It gets the right people into
Speaker 3: the right place at the right time to do the
Speaker 3: most good for all of us. And the result of
Speaker 3: that is, of course, you have a very prosperous society
Speaker 3: because all the talent you have available is exploited to
Speaker 3: the best possible extent for the good of everybody. Once
Speaker 3: you start to stop doing that, stop putting your best
Speaker 3: talent in the right place at the right time, you're
Speaker 3: going to reduce the efficiency of society. Right your whole
Speaker 3: society is given less happy, it's going to be less prosperous.
Speaker 3: It's going to be it's gonna be divided racially, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be business. Yes, yes, it's a horrible outcome. Horrible.
Speaker 1: Let's go back in the history. You're an historian, Professor
Speaker 1: John Ellis. I can recall that America in England where
Speaker 1: the first two countries that banned the importation of slaves.
Speaker 1: This goes back to, you know, back to the fifteen
Speaker 1: nineteen project, which America did not exist until seventeen seventeen
Speaker 1: eighty nine, but nonetheless describe historically what nations stop slavery
Speaker 1: and what nations continued it even through today.
Speaker 3: Well, look, when you go back to say, let's say
Speaker 3: the fifteen hundred. The world in the the in fifteen
Speaker 3: hundred was totally racist, totally tribalist, and everyone practiced slavery everywhere.
Speaker 3: I mean, people like to think of Native American tribes
Speaker 3: as you know, rather peaceful and noisy. They really weren't.
Speaker 3: They massact each other all the time. In Africa, I mean,
Speaker 3: tribes massacred other tribes in the most horrific way. Shark
Speaker 3: of the Zulu wiped out in the tribe of forty
Speaker 3: thousand in about ninety minutes on the battle. Men, women
Speaker 3: and children slaughtered the lot in just a few moments.
Speaker 3: So the whole world was a really tribal and rather
Speaker 3: vicious place, and the beginning of a change in that
Speaker 3: came mainly in Britain in the eighteenth century, when some
Speaker 3: philosophers like John Locke and David Hume started to say, look, everyone,
Speaker 3: all people's on earth are basically the same underneath, depending
Speaker 3: on how they're how they're raised, what society there is,
Speaker 3: they they're all table looked good if only the faith
Speaker 3: in the right way. But that attitude was so powerful
Speaker 3: that within one hundred years the British had banned slavery.
Speaker 3: Now they were the first to band slavery. Not only
Speaker 3: that they were the first country that had an extensive
Speaker 3: discussion of what was wrong with slavery, and there was
Speaker 3: a public it was public thing. They the Brits were
Speaker 3: because they were so prosperous because of the free market system.
Speaker 3: They had about half the population of literate in the
Speaker 3: eighteenth century. No other country had that kind of widespread literacy,
Speaker 3: So you had public opinion that developed because of the
Speaker 3: because people could read, public opinion became a huge force,
Speaker 3: and that powered the discussion of the rights of every
Speaker 3: human being to be free, and that that produced the
Speaker 3: end of at the end of slavery in Britain and
Speaker 3: then in North America.
Speaker 1: Fact, there's no credity, there's no credit given. English or
Speaker 1: Americans banned the importation of slaves in like eighteen oh five.
Speaker 1: We fought a civil war over it. Six hundred thousand
Speaker 1: Americans were killed because the Democrats living in the South
Speaker 1: wanted to keep slaves the Confederacy. We went to war,
Speaker 1: and so two countries at the forefront of stopping slavery
Speaker 1: were England and America. And going back historically, eighty five
Speaker 1: percent of the slaves did not come to America. We
Speaker 1: stopped it. Abraham Lincoln, fifty years before the Emancipation Proclamation,
Speaker 1: we prohibited the importation of slaves into the country. We're
Speaker 1: the only ones that did it. We get no credit,
Speaker 1: zero credit reparations. Everyone pays because who's got the deepest pocket.
Speaker 1: But I'm proud to be an American that we stopped
Speaker 1: slavery while in Africa it continued.
Speaker 3: Correct, absolutely correct. Look, it is about eighteen hundred of
Speaker 3: the Asian The British, which had the most powerful navy
Speaker 3: in the world. You know what, they set their navy onto,
Speaker 3: set their navy to roam the seas and stop the
Speaker 3: transitlan slave trade. They were the only group that was
Speaker 3: actually actively And you know what happened as a result,
Speaker 3: that the slave trade, which had been moving slaves from
Speaker 3: the western edge of Africa to America, the African slave
Speaker 3: traders instead, because they were stopped by the British on
Speaker 3: the west of Africa, they moved their slave trade to
Speaker 3: the eastern end of Africa and they continued. So all
Speaker 3: they did was simply avoid the British navy by going
Speaker 3: to the other side of Africa to mount their operations from.
Speaker 3: But I mean, there's just no question about it. Africa
Speaker 3: continued slave trading after the Europeans were stopping it, and
Speaker 3: you know it had trived different. As you say, the
Speaker 3: one thing that's unique about the Anglosphere, I mean Britain
Speaker 3: and America, the one thing is unique about them as
Speaker 3: far as slaver as coincided. They stopped it. Nobody else
Speaker 3: stopped it.
Speaker 1: In fact, in fact, today there's more slaves alive than
Speaker 1: ever before, and it's in Africa and Asia. In fact,
Speaker 1: the number one slave traders were Arabs and Muslims. They
Speaker 1: simply continued it. And we're guilt. We're guilty parties. I
Speaker 1: guess for several decades. It was awful, it was terrible,
Speaker 1: but damn it, we stopped it. And it continued throughout
Speaker 1: the world, especially in Central and South America up until
Speaker 1: about forty or fifty years ago, and to continue now
Speaker 1: in Africa and Asia. So when you talk about reparations,
Speaker 1: the slave trade in the Atlantic, slave trade could not
Speaker 1: have existed without African tribes selling each other into slavery. Correct,
Speaker 1: The Africans originated the slave.
Speaker 3: Trade, absolutely, and the Arabs was very important of the
Speaker 3: said trade. They kept it going much longer than anybody else.
Speaker 3: Did so, you know. But our ignorant radicals in this
Speaker 3: country are ignorant radicals. You don't know anything about history.
Speaker 3: They blame us as if we had been to slavery,
Speaker 3: were the only persons ever to have it. No, the
Speaker 3: one thing about us was unique. It was not that
Speaker 3: we pricessed it, but it stopped it. And the same
Speaker 3: was true of empire. Look, I mean, the last empire
Speaker 3: was the British Empire. Now everybody blames the British for imperialism,
Speaker 3: but in fact that in hundreds of empires going back,
Speaker 3: you know, thousands of years, the last empire was the British.
Speaker 3: What was it the last one? Because the British said
Speaker 3: the empire is not a good idea and they dissolved
Speaker 3: their own empire. No empire ever dissolved itself before. The
Speaker 3: reason for the end of the Roman Empire was they
Speaker 3: got defeated militarily. The end of the Ottoman Empire, Tooks,
Speaker 3: was because they lost, They lost the war. But the
Speaker 3: British lose militarily. They voluntarily decided that everybody preserved to
Speaker 3: have their own freedom.
Speaker 1: And that's England, that's America, England. One other thing. In
Speaker 1: eighteen sixty two. During the Civil War, a ship carrying
Speaker 1: slaves from Africa to Cuba and violation of the ban
Speaker 1: on international slave trade put in by Britain and by America,
Speaker 1: was captured in the High Seas by the US Navy.
Speaker 1: The crew who was importing these slaves into Cuba were
Speaker 1: imprisoned and the captain was hanged in the US. So
Speaker 1: America and Britain were the only two countries they said,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, these black folks from Africa have value.
Speaker 1: In fact, the word slaves come from Slavs, which is
Speaker 1: an Eastern European term. The Muslims, the Arabs, the Africans,
Speaker 1: the Asians participated fully in the slave trade, and damn
Speaker 1: in America stopped it along with England. But we get
Speaker 1: no credit because there's no money in it. There's money
Speaker 1: in CRT, there's money in DEI, an eight billion dollar
Speaker 1: industry per year, but there's no money in complementing America correct.
Speaker 3: Well, also those political advantage radicals. What the radicals hate
Speaker 3: America because America has a highly successful free market society.
Speaker 3: In fact, America has proved the free market capitalism will
Speaker 3: expend the system. That's what lose to it. We've totally
Speaker 3: proved it. And that's why the radicals who are Marxists
Speaker 3: hate us, because we proved that Marxism was stupid. But
Speaker 3: so they'll seize every opportunity they can to tear down
Speaker 3: this country and slavery and racism. That's one of the
Speaker 3: ways in which they try to do it. But as
Speaker 3: you said, I mean they're completely mistaken. We were the
Speaker 3: heroes of that situation racism, anti racism. We were the
Speaker 3: ones that began the idea of anti racism.
Speaker 1: Well, I tell you, we have to run, professor, but
Speaker 1: Al Sharpton makes a lot of money out of this deal.
Speaker 1: There's an eight billion dollar industry at stake. But glad
Speaker 1: to have you on critical race theories and inversion of
Speaker 1: history the book and also at the Wall Street Journal
Speaker 1: by Professor John Alis, author of a short history of
Speaker 1: relations between people's tribalism and racism were universal in tail.
Speaker 1: Britain's an American said this must be stopped. But thank
Speaker 1: you and the professor John Allison, thanks for coming on
Speaker 1: setting the record straight. And you're a great Britain. I'm
Speaker 1: a great American and God bless you.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: God bless you. Let's continue with more. When there's a
Speaker 1: lot of money out there, twist and turn the reality
Speaker 1: of history to fit a diet tribe that puts money
Speaker 1: in your pocket. Talk to Al Sharpton about that Bill
Speaker 1: cunning into Great American Live at some of the Reds
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Speaker 6: Mark this date on your calendar. Now, folks, goes next year,
Speaker 6: it comes around again. March sixth, nineteen eighty six. Today
Speaker 6: is my birthday. Of course, that means in nineteen eighty
Speaker 6: seven it'll be my birthday again. On this day, I
Speaker 6: generally prefer v Nex sweaters any color of blue, gray, burgundy, black, yellow.
Speaker 1: But not a lot. Slacks are thirty six thirty six.
Speaker 4: What else?
Speaker 6: Oh, I like hats, cowboy boots. I'll take all the
Speaker 6: cowboy boots that you got. Any sunken treasurer any buried jewelry,
Speaker 6: anything like that, just lyne around. Hey, you know, send
Speaker 6: it to me on my birthday next year.
Speaker 4: Of course.
Speaker 1: He Hello, quiet, and I'm spokes. I'm broadcasting by Rockey.
Speaker 1: That is sports talk host Royalty right there. The great
Speaker 1: Bob Trumpy forty years ago today, nineteen eighty six, And
Speaker 1: I followed him at nine o'clock in the rest is history.
Speaker 1: Were you were alive forty years ago? Yes, it was five,
Speaker 1: you were five. Five. We have joining us now Carl Jarman,
Speaker 1: who's the head basketball coach. He got his chops at
Speaker 1: Deer Park High School with Steve Gentry junior. But Carl,
Speaker 1: only what happened to the seventh grade boys team here
Speaker 1: at Lakota. Explain that. And by the way, Lakota beat
Speaker 1: saying next last night, that's another story. But please explain
Speaker 1: about your team in the seventh grade. Yes, sir, thank
Speaker 1: you Bill for having me.
Speaker 9: And I want to start off by thanking you forgiving
Speaker 9: me the opportunity to come in and share this.
Speaker 1: Special story with you. It's actually historic.
Speaker 9: So we this year Lakota Ridge Middle School, we made history.
Speaker 1: This year.
Speaker 9: We were the first seventh grade team in the Lakota
Speaker 9: Ridge building in the history of the school who.
Speaker 1: Went wired to wire.
Speaker 9: And what I mean by wire wire is we went
Speaker 9: undefeated during the regular season in the GMC, went twelve
Speaker 9: to Ohero and then went on to get the number
Speaker 9: one seed in the postseason tournament where we went four
Speaker 9: and oh to win everything cap everything off. So it
Speaker 9: was a great, great journey and a great story.
Speaker 1: Could you coach the UC Bearcats? Because right now West
Speaker 1: Midler is not getting the job done. The only score
Speaker 1: went for nine points or something night. Couldn't you take
Speaker 1: you see right now coach and roll them to glory
Speaker 1: possibly in the knit.
Speaker 9: I would want to think I could. Uh that's one
Speaker 9: of my dreams. I would love to be a college
Speaker 9: basketball coach. And uh, hopefully one day I'll get the
Speaker 9: opportunity to do that.
Speaker 1: As ke Win titles you will. Heck, you had to
Speaker 1: take the seventh grade team. They probably make a better
Speaker 1: effort last night. These guys are taller. But Wes Miller
Speaker 1: can't coach. That's the problem. Sean Miller can coach, we think,
Speaker 1: as evidenced by that, but Wes Miller's never been a coach.
Speaker 1: And they're faithful or not happy. So I have some
Speaker 1: kids that might be playing at Derrick Park later on
Speaker 1: and they're going to transfer, upgrade the program or maybe
Speaker 1: pull down to sant extra court sat next. These kids
Speaker 1: are mars more undefeated, untied, unscored on Yeah.
Speaker 9: Uh so uh, special special, special group of kids. This year,
Speaker 9: Like I said, we went wire to wire and I
Speaker 9: feel like I had the recipe. I definitely want to
Speaker 9: give a shout out to what Kelvin Moss, who's the
Speaker 9: head coach at Lakota West.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 9: They're doing a phenomenal job this year and had much
Speaker 9: success as they won last night against St X an
Speaker 9: easy win, easy job.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't say it was easy as our best player was sick.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any difference. Lost their best player in
Speaker 1: the center and they're still going to go to the
Speaker 1: NC do so, so please continue. It was a great game.
Speaker 9: They ended up pulling it out at the end, and
Speaker 9: like I said, I want to thank Calvin for giving
Speaker 9: me the opportunity and trusting me with the seven great kids.
Speaker 9: One or two of the kids that were really good, Uh,
Speaker 9: well my my engine. I got to talk about him,
Speaker 9: and I want to definitely give him a shout out.
Speaker 1: King Robinson.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 9: Probably one of the toughest seventh graders definitely in our region. Yeah,
Speaker 9: he's he's a phenomenal great kid. Ended up scoring three
Speaker 9: hundred and ninety seven points for me this season game no, no, no.
Speaker 9: Just over the season this season, sixteen games, one hundred
Speaker 9: ninety seven points. He had several games where he was
Speaker 9: over the twenty five point Mark just did a phenomenal
Speaker 9: job lifting Deer Park. Yeah, hopefully, hopefully he will stay
Speaker 9: staying in the city here. But with his with his success,
Speaker 9: I don't know how how that's going to end up.
Speaker 1: Were you at the game last night when look Coda
Speaker 1: beat saying next, were you there, Yes, sir Rocky? Were
Speaker 1: you there? Yes? In the middle of rock Was there
Speaker 1: Rocky in the middle of the mash bit? I heard yelling?
Speaker 1: That would have helped. I would have done it. He
Speaker 1: had his shirt off and everything. But yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he could have made a tough go for
Speaker 1: the Bombers. But he's he's looking around for Joe Frederick,
Speaker 1: general sales manager. And Joe tell me he played high
Speaker 1: school in college. I don't remember him, but uh he
Speaker 1: tells me he was pretty good. Oh yeah, Joe Frederick
Speaker 1: told me you could take him down. He wasn't that good, right?
Speaker 1: Uh No, I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 9: Me and Joe had a lot of a lot of
Speaker 9: saturdays and a lot of high school days where we
Speaker 9: went head to head against each other. Joe, he was
Speaker 9: a phenomenal player, very well known in the city, and
Speaker 9: one of the best basketball players that I played with
Speaker 9: in my time, but it was he as.
Speaker 1: Good as say Jalen Rose or Demandi MacIntyre. Joe Hawker,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. He could shoot it, he could handle it,
Speaker 1: he could do it all. Joey was Joey was pretty
Speaker 1: easy explain to these guys. You were an assistant coach
Speaker 1: with Steve Gentry in twenty eighteen, Yes, when Derek Park
Speaker 1: went undefeated, untied, unscored on and won the state title
Speaker 1: twenty nine And oh do you call any of that?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yes, part of part of my success this year.
Speaker 9: I think I had the recipe from Steve Gentry. And
Speaker 9: I definitely want to give coach Steve Gentry a shout
Speaker 9: out for being my coaching mentor and uh and teachings.
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to credit to, right coach?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, oh yeah, i'll give I'll give a Bill
Speaker 9: Cunningham a shout out to he.
Speaker 5: He was.
Speaker 9: He was instrumental in success that year and did a
Speaker 9: lot for the team.
Speaker 1: So we always think, explain the final we're playing in
Speaker 1: Ohio State. I'm watching TV Willy and the Park is
Speaker 1: winning and they win the title. They're all up there
Speaker 1: cutting down everything else, cutting down. The players are up
Speaker 1: there the coaches grab the scissors as some poor kids
Speaker 1: and like ten minutes, take a shot of this guy.
Speaker 1: He's got this white jersey on year park number ten.
Speaker 1: It looks like it's from eighteen seventy five to jersey,
Speaker 1: and they go, who the heck is that guy?
Speaker 3: Up?
Speaker 1: I are taking take it down to debt and you're
Speaker 1: up there snipping the debt like you're like you're a player.
Speaker 1: And then you put your hands up in the air
Speaker 1: and they got you on TV and I'm going, these
Speaker 1: guys are going, who's this guy?
Speaker 10: And you like one loop and you snipped like like
Speaker 10: almost the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I have a photo of me up there, say give
Speaker 1: me some sports. As I find the photo of me
Speaker 1: cut down the nets out Ohio State won.
Speaker 9: Hey Bill, I still remember your your jersey you wore
Speaker 9: from from back in the day when you were playing.
Speaker 1: I think there it is right there, coach, remember that?
Speaker 1: Oh that's it. That's it, Rocky. Take a look. I
Speaker 1: mean he showed to me once a week, but I'll
Speaker 1: look at it again.
Speaker 8: Hey Bill made history with if anybody at sout out,
Speaker 8: go ahead hit this Dave. Now allow me to express
Speaker 8: an opinion about something else. Here if anybody ever questioned
Speaker 8: how deeply ingrained the term front runner was in the
Speaker 8: fiber of one Bill Cunningham, as Souarez grounds the shortstop
Speaker 8: for the out, they can put that aside for all time.
Speaker 8: And congratulations to Gary Gentry and the Deer Park High
Speaker 8: School basketball team.
Speaker 1: They won the state title.
Speaker 8: They were on the field to be honored by the
Speaker 8: Reds tonight, a tremendous turnout, and right there in the
Speaker 8: middle of him was Bill Cunningham.
Speaker 1: Now some background material.
Speaker 8: Bill played at deer Park, led the city in scoring
Speaker 8: when he was a senior there a million and one
Speaker 8: years ago, and did not know how to drive back
Speaker 8: to Deer Park until they ran off about ten or
Speaker 8: twelve or fourteen wins in a row, and it was
Speaker 8: pretty obvious that they were about as good as they came.
Speaker 8: And they turned out to be the case because they
Speaker 8: won the state championship. He says that the kids wanted
Speaker 8: him to take part in cutting down the net after
Speaker 8: the state championship final, and so he, in his infinite
Speaker 8: wisdom and his incredible humility, agreed to do that.
Speaker 1: I did incredible.
Speaker 3: That out.
Speaker 1: I just made myself.
Speaker 8: So let me get that back for you three and
Speaker 8: other count on Tucker Barnhard after SI restaurant is short,
Speaker 8: but we're always glad to have Billy in the booth
Speaker 8: with us. He stays for about two innings, and then
Speaker 8: Sasha Hiken we see him about three months later. You know,
Speaker 8: one more thought, I've known a lot of front runners
Speaker 8: in my life.
Speaker 1: How about that picture on the field. Unbelievable.
Speaker 8: There he is, lined up with the coaching staff and
Speaker 8: various other school officials and all the talented youngsters that
Speaker 8: got them a state title, And.
Speaker 1: There he was.
Speaker 8: I said, boil boy, you gotta have a lot of
Speaker 8: nerve to do that. Now.
Speaker 1: Didn't bother him a bit. He felt like he'd right
Speaker 1: at home.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He laid down right there on the grass, threw his
Speaker 1: feet up in the air. Yes, sir, hands in the air,
Speaker 1: took part in the team picture.
Speaker 8: Year later, year later, mercifully, our conversation about Bill Cunningham
Speaker 8: is passe.
Speaker 1: That's all I can say. Coach, you were there, didn't
Speaker 1: the team insist at Ohio State that I cut down
Speaker 1: the net?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah. Bill spent a lot of time with us
Speaker 9: during that year. He came to a couple of practices
Speaker 9: and I must say that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 9: He challenged our best free throw shooters for a free
Speaker 9: throw shooting contest and he won.
Speaker 1: He hit ten in a row. We couldn't getting the coach.
Speaker 1: That's automatic. He took Brandon, and he took down Larkin
Speaker 1: Moler at Molar during halftime, they challenged him. I was
Speaker 1: right underneath the basket, nothing but string music went down
Speaker 1: hard at Now Bill? Now Bill? That was that was
Speaker 1: seven years ago. Is he still got it?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 1: I guess if I asked, I was tuesdays coach. Don't
Speaker 1: challenge him on golf, Papa shot or free throw shooting.
Speaker 1: You know, forget it.
Speaker 5: Really you're not bringing up to how you whoop me
Speaker 5: in a free throw shooting too. Man, you are the
Speaker 5: man you are. If they're the Hall of Fame for
Speaker 5: free throw shooting, you gotta be in it because that
Speaker 5: night up it lifts up in bowler and look at
Speaker 5: you look like you could have made a hundred free
Speaker 5: throws in a row. And I just tipped my hat
Speaker 5: to you. You can knock them down, man.
Speaker 1: That's firing, right. I don't want to pat myself on
Speaker 1: the back, you know, I don't do that, n uh,
Speaker 1: not to not at all all right, sick, give us.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Roxy we Uh. Let's see Willie Uh. The
Speaker 1: Reds are off today. They get back to Cactus League
Speaker 1: ACTEA Toamar against the Giants three weeks from today and
Speaker 1: it's opening day resid Giants a great American ballpark. How
Speaker 1: do you buy the rings for the team? Who's going
Speaker 1: to buy the rings? And the undefeated untied, unscored on
Speaker 1: seventh grade? Uh to Ridge who Rocky Boyman said, you'll
Speaker 1: step up and by the rings if no one else does.
Speaker 9: I wish somebody will help us out. I'm probably going
Speaker 9: to be the one forking, forking up, the forking up
Speaker 9: the dough for what you are you over there? Yeah, Mike,
Speaker 9: mikeets you to help us. You might be able to
Speaker 9: help us out. Since it's a kind of a direct connect,
Speaker 9: please continue.
Speaker 10: All right, that's a trick though, if you asked him
Speaker 10: on here he's got to say yes.
Speaker 1: Recorded, So I just got a point here. I think
Speaker 1: he ought to continue. Yeah, let me think about it
Speaker 1: all right. Well, College basketball to night quarter final play
Speaker 1: Horizon League with NKU and Cleveland State seven thirty on
Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty down. The Browns have restructured quarterback Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson's contract, what clearing nearly thirty six million dollars in
Speaker 1: salary cap space and he's still playing for that play
Speaker 1: Cleveland was over by twenty two million. But he can't
Speaker 1: play right. He's got an achilles correct. He's got two
Speaker 1: years left on a five here, fully guaranteed two hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty million dollars deal. Talk to them about the
Speaker 1: six forty six in the next two seasons. Rock, I'm
Speaker 1: glad you brought that up. Big story the Inquire today
Speaker 1: about your good friend pac Van Jones who was with
Speaker 1: a neon dion saying that he uh he uh lied
Speaker 1: in all the urine tests and that uh he never
Speaker 1: he took urine test all the time. But it wasn't
Speaker 1: his urine. Whose urine was it? Was it your urine?
Speaker 1: It was not my urine? No, is that what he said?
Speaker 1: It was he took someone else's, well somebody, Carl, was
Speaker 1: it yours? It wasn't mine?
Speaker 10: Because there's there's things you can do to clean your
Speaker 10: own urine out. But yeah, what do you assume you can?
Speaker 10: What do you mean, what do you what are you
Speaker 10: talking about? Well, I mean they give you the cup
Speaker 10: and you go in the bathroom and yourself a lot
Speaker 10: of times they're not exactly just standing there right there
Speaker 10: looking at it.
Speaker 1: But then the new procedure is you got to watch
Speaker 1: the urine come out of the right out of the end.
Speaker 1: Shall we say?
Speaker 10: Who was the guy who had the u about that?
Speaker 10: The Wizenator? Remember that he was a running back the
Speaker 10: Wizards when I played. He had like a fake prosthetic. Uh,
Speaker 10: you know a thing and you and you you know
Speaker 10: it had a connection to a tube and you put
Speaker 10: other urine in it and he was cut.
Speaker 1: It's called the look it up? Who's it? Here's a
Speaker 1: running back from Oregon? Maybe hold on see if she's
Speaker 1: like a wrestler. I don't know who the Wizenator is.
Speaker 1: We don't know. He gave me ralph na name the device.
Speaker 1: The device is device because I know the ABN types
Speaker 1: always take drug tests. We don't have to take one
Speaker 1: O seven too. There is a popped up again coach
Speaker 1: right there cutting down Ontario Smith. Yes, Ontario Smith was
Speaker 1: a wizarinator. He yeah, tough, go give me some more sports.
Speaker 1: So he beat all those drug tests that way, Yes,
Speaker 1: he said, I it's someone else's urine. How do you
Speaker 1: get someone else's urine in?
Speaker 10: But it's kind of dumb because like with with drugs,
Speaker 10: especially marijuana, they they tell you when the test is,
Speaker 10: They tell you and say hey here and on you know,
Speaker 10: whatever you're going to be, they're going to have it,
Speaker 10: and they tell you much in advance to avoid a
Speaker 10: bad situation. And we used to have a coach, Everett Withers,
Speaker 10: or the secondary coach, said if you if you fail
Speaker 10: a drug test, you can't play for me. Not because
Speaker 10: I care if you're smoking marijuana, but it's because you're
Speaker 10: either dependent, which means you can't give it up for
Speaker 10: a month, or you're too stupid to figure out and
Speaker 10: know when the date is and work back.
Speaker 1: You might be too stupid. Yes, Hello world, Hello world,
Speaker 1: Well Carl, congratulations coming back next year on the UC
Speaker 1: is going to be looking for a head coach in
Speaker 1: about a month Yeah, my name is West. Don't get
Speaker 1: me in this mess. That'd be great, that'd be great.
Speaker 1: He's got to come back now, will he's won a title?
Speaker 1: What we've had forcell Mary and here the ladies? What
Speaker 1: four times at around Alexander's what's been here? What fifteen years?
Speaker 1: Would all attack it at the tigers?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: And Sex hasn't been in there? Rock have they have
Speaker 1: sat X? I don't think X won a race. Well,
Speaker 1: we're on the GCL this year, and what of course basketball,
Speaker 1: Well get him in here if you got the guts.
Speaker 1: Of course, they just lost the Lakota. So a little
Speaker 1: bit of a down ticket. We only have state champions.
Speaker 1: See if they'll come in a tall kid with mono,
Speaker 1: see if you can come.
Speaker 9: In all right, Hey Bill, I got to give you.
Speaker 9: I gotta give you this recipe. This is a This
Speaker 9: is a major perfect chocolate chip cookie. So uh, part
Speaker 9: of part of Gentry's recipe I took with me is longer.
Speaker 1: No, it's not long.
Speaker 9: Seven seven main ingredients right right, which which is the
Speaker 9: number seven? Was super significant in our season. Let me
Speaker 9: explain to you why it was seven years from the
Speaker 9: last time I experienced a championship with your party eighteen
Speaker 9: right later, twenty twenty five, I'm back in the same situation, right,
Speaker 9: same exact story history, same exact story, right, yes, five
Speaker 9: seven years later.
Speaker 1: Seven main ingredients. Seven main ingredients to the recipe.
Speaker 9: Hard work, hard work segment, Commitment, commitment, passion for the game, passion,
Speaker 9: determination and confidence, determination segment, willingness to buy into my system,
Speaker 9: buy into the system seg discipline, discipline, rock execution.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 9: Boom, all right there, cookies said, that's a perfect chocolate
Speaker 9: chip cookie.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna the perfect My brother's John Cunningham, the athletic
Speaker 1: director of you see. I'm gonna give him your name,
Speaker 1: please do, John, This is the guy to take you
Speaker 1: to the I got the recipe. You got the recipe.
Speaker 1: I got it chocolate chip cookies. Since we gave it
Speaker 1: to me, I got it, Rocky, Good luck for sand X.
Speaker 1: Thank you lost again, Carl. You're undefeated, untied, unscored on
Speaker 1: It's wonderful. I wish you nothing but the best. Thank you, Bill.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Get me out of the students reports segment.
Speaker 1: Will you today? On this Thursday, March the sixth, we
Speaker 1: say happy birthday number eighty years young today the mister
Speaker 1: Robert Trumpy, the father of sports talk, Yes, the Bengals
Speaker 1: great tight end and seven hundred WLW host extraordinary of
Speaker 1: sports Talk, Carl.
Speaker 9: Hey, Bill, I gotta, I gotta come back in and
Speaker 9: cap this whole thing off. So the reason that that
Speaker 9: number seven was such a big deal, do you know
Speaker 9: what the number seven is significant for?
Speaker 1: Do you know what it's saying for? Seven on seven
Speaker 1: out seven?
Speaker 9: No? Perfection and completion, Perfection and completion, Yes, sir. So
Speaker 9: that's why the seven years again, I got seven years
Speaker 9: from eighteen to twenty five. Got to do it again
Speaker 9: professional in twenty thirty two.
Speaker 1: You're gonna do it again. I will if I'm still coaching.
Speaker 1: At U s at U.
Speaker 4: See.
Speaker 1: Thank you, and you all heard it from Bill. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Thanks Bill. Yes, Sir Willie, we leave you with the
Speaker 1: immortal words of the Stooge Report all I should be
Speaker 1: with you, Bill, see you later. As the governor wants
Speaker 1: to fly the flags at half staff when I die
Speaker 1: called you on seven hundred WW