WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:03.480 We have Josephine Gilbot with us, and I'm gonna show 2 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:06.120 y'all a little bit about Josephine because I don't think 3 00:00:06.200 --> 00:00:12.480 y'all understand we're dealing with a real wine. We're dealing 4 00:00:12.560 --> 00:00:16.800 with a real wine. Okay, So let me just show 5 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:19.640 y'all how Josephine moves. 6 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:25.320 Miss Josephine Gilbo. I'm a seventeen year Army veteran. I 7 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:28.079 recently got out of the military last year. 8 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:32.280 For one year, I have watched andreel bun children alive. 9 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:36.880 You don't care about veterans, you don't care about American values. 10 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:38.880 You are destroying this company. 11 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:45.520 This country may not give you the moral courage to 12 00:00:45.679 --> 00:00:49.439 do the right day. Having that background as an intelligence 13 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:53.359 officer and understanding what defense actually is, I can see 14 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:55.439 clearly that this is not self defense. 15 00:00:55.920 --> 00:00:56.640 Shay on you. 16 00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:01.799 So we just approached Brian matth and are you spying 17 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:07.000 for Israel? We need veterans from California all the way 18 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:10.359 to New York to stand against what we are witnessing 19 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:10.959 right now. 20 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:12.959 All right, guys, breaking news. 21 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:18.079 Congress has just passed FY twenty twenty six National Defense 22 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:23.120 Authorization Act, which authorizes nearly nine hundred billion dollars of 23 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:28.480 American taxpayer dollars to defense, but spending ride up. 24 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:32.680 Ride up, America, Rid up. It is time to take 25 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:34.640 back this country. 26 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:38.400 From these corrupt politicians. Amen. 27 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:49.359 Good, Yeah, we are, we are. 28 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:57.799 Hello Joseph, Hello Amanda, it is good to see you. 29 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:03.159 Oh my god, what a question that is. 30 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:08.199 So I am located about half a mile from Roosevelt 31 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:10.039 Roads Base in Puerto Rico. 32 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:11.879 It is a base that. 33 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:14.439 Was closed down in two thousand and four and the 34 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:18.639 United States military has recently opened it back up in 35 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:24.000 order to orchestrate this it's imperialism on Venezuela. And so 36 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:27.840 I am actually here joined investigative journalism to see exactly 37 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:31.439 what is going on here and to also show solidarity 38 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:33.639 with the people in Puerto Rico that they have a 39 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:34.759 right to resist this. 40 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:35.919 This is their island. 41 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:40.560 The United States does not have the authority to use 42 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:44.520 their island as a forward operating base to fight this 43 00:02:44.719 --> 00:02:48.599 you know, war as they like to call it, with Venezuela. 44 00:02:48.719 --> 00:02:53.000 So I'm here just getting some grassroots actions off the ground. 45 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:56.560 And yeah wow, I mean I had no idea that 46 00:02:56.639 --> 00:02:59.039 was going on. And that is why investigative reporting is 47 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:01.919 so necessary because the goal is to keep it quiet, 48 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:04.199 and you are putting it on blasts. Thank you so 49 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:08.319 much for your service in that regard as well as 50 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:11.159 in the military. What even brought you to the military. 51 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:15.319 Actually, you know, I grew up really poor in America. 52 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:18.520 My father was a disabled veteran and you know, if 53 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:22.000 anyone in your audience doesn't understand how they collect a check, 54 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:26.039 like it's based off of you know what percentage you're disabled. 55 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:28.360 And you know, I watched him fight with the VA 56 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:33.520 my entire childhood to collect like liveable wage money because 57 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:36.120 he was in severe pain all the time from an 58 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:38.840 injury from the military. So we were really really poor 59 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:42.280 living off of that. And when I turned eighteen, I 60 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:42.719 wanted to. 61 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:44.199 Go to college. 62 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:46.680 Both of my parents had not graduated high school, so 63 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:49.719 this was like a huge goal and like, you know, 64 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:52.599 something I wanted to do, and the only path that 65 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.159 I really saw that could be possible was to join 66 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:58.479 the military because at the time, they had started introducing 67 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:01.960 the free college and Senate, so I was basically a 68 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:02.360 part of. 69 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:04.960 The economic draft into the military, you. 70 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:08.400 Know, seeking the ability to go to college. 71 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:11.360 When did this flip happen for you? 72 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:14.879 I think like in all. 73 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:18.319 Honestly, it wasn't like a one time situation. I think 74 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:21.720 that like over time things were started happening in my life, 75 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:24.920 like seeds maybe getting planted, and then like something else 76 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:27.319 would happen and it would go back and like kind 77 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.279 of water that idea that had come in my head before, 78 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:34.279 and I think really like the biggest impact as far 79 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:37.319 as it comes to understanding what's going on, but with 80 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:41.240 the genocide and Gaza specifically, which is really what pushed 81 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:45.439 me to the edge of like saying enough is enough. Yeah, 82 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:49.000 was in twenty seventeen I was doing. I was an 83 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:54.120 intelligence analyst for DA Defense Intelligence Agency working on a 84 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:59.759 Habeas Corpus contract, which is focused on like legal processes 85 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:04.519 for the detainees in Guantanamo Bay. There is a like 86 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:07.639 a due process I guess and I quote because it's 87 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:10.759 not really due process, but called Habeas Corpus that if 88 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:13.800 you're being detained without charge, you can file. 89 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:18.000 Through Habeas Corpus to for your legal right to be freed. 90 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:21.879 And many of the detainees and Guantanamobay are still there 91 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:26.319 almost two decades now without any charges. So I was 92 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:29.360 a part of that team and some of the information 93 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:33.120 that I was reading was really kind of shocking my consciousness, 94 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:35.920 Like some information all the way back that now has 95 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:39.480 gone public about torture camps and black sites and you know, 96 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:42.120 Abu graves, like all of those things I was kind 97 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:46.279 of reading about from the inside, and it kind of 98 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:49.199 shook me a little bit. And so, I mean I 99 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:51.680 didn't really, it didn't shake me too much, but enough 100 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:53.800 that I was like, I'm going to start following international 101 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:57.680 media outlets. I want to start hearing what are people 102 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:00.600 saying in these other countries that this is happening to, 103 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:03.879 or other powerful global leaders. What are they all sort 104 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:08.519 of saying about this. This is twenty seventeen, fast. 105 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:10.360 Forward to October seventh. 106 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:14.319 I'm following these media outlets and literally on my phone 107 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:20.879 is video after video after video of mass slaughter of children. 108 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:26.839 I mean what I was witnessing children's body parts everywhere, 109 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:30.839 Like I was just like in shock, and in a 110 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:35.399 matter of two weeks witnessing this and then also witnessing 111 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:42.639 my government, my leaders, western media outlets lying literally what 112 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:43.680 my eyes could see. 113 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:46.959 So you're telling me my eyes are lying. This was 114 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:48.000 not self defense. 115 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:52.560 I've seen some really crazy things in the US military 116 00:06:52.639 --> 00:06:55.399 but I had never seen anything to this scale of 117 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:58.319 devastation of death and destruction. 118 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:02.600 And from our leaders to say that this was justified 119 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:04.040 as self defense. 120 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:06.519 That we were going to normalize this. I was like, 121 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:11.399 hell no, not under my name. I have four children. 122 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:13.319 We are not going to normalize this. 123 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:17.360 Like what we do there will always come back here. 124 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:18.720 Hell no. 125 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:22.360 So this is like what pushed me out to start 126 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:25.519 speaking and saying, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna 127 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:29.360 say something like publicly it's and I'm going to use 128 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:32.959 my credentials to say, look, I was a part of it. 129 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:34.000 I get it. 130 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:37.680 So you know, people love to use their kids as 131 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:40.600 a reason for why they won't do that. People love 132 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:42.600 to say, well, I have kids, so I just I 133 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:45.920 can't speak out. How does that work for you. 134 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:51.839 I'm doing this in part for not only my kids, 135 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:54.360 because I have an instinctual feeling that. 136 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:55.759 All children are my children. 137 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:58.759 I'm doing this for the future of our children, for 138 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:01.839 the future of our speed, for the future of humanity. 139 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:06.560 If we don't do this the like this is, you know, 140 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:08.839 things are going to get worse. I mean, I'm not 141 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:13.319 trying to be like a doomer, but things are going but. 142 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:15.240 Things are going to get worse, Like I came here 143 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:18.839 to Puerto Rico to study the military escalation only to 144 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:22.480 find out a whole nother shlew of things that are 145 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:27.240 happening on this island to these people, by US government, 146 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:32.039 by the elite, by corporations like this is you were 147 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:35.399 talking about it right before I came on. This is 148 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:40.120 happening internationally on a global scale. The leaders in Japan 149 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:43.840 have been brainwashed and corrupted, The leaders in Puerto Rico 150 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:47.919 have been brainwashed and corrupted. There are literally coups happening 151 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:53.039 across the planet in order for empire to keep itself going. 152 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:59.759 So when we see that, where do we pivot to? 153 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:02.960 Because I'm curious, Actually, did you know that you were 154 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:06.639 going to Was it a plan to pivot to journalism? No? 155 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:12.080 I was a cybersecurity engineer working for a centure like 156 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:15.120 making over two hundred thousand dollars a year. 157 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:16.320 I quit everything. 158 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:19.279 And you know the reason I quitted a centre I 159 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:22.440 was trying to do both was because I emailed them 160 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:26.279 and I asked for full transparency if they employed IDF soldiers, 161 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:30.240 because we have a cyber lab in Israel, what company 162 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:34.759 does and I was like, Uh, I'm not comfortable working 163 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:37.720 for a company where I may be in the presence 164 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:41.279 of these war criminals, these murders of children. So I 165 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:46.080 asked HR for transparency if they employed current IDF or 166 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:50.559 former IDF soldiers from Israel that could potentially be complicit 167 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:52.840 in war crimes, and that if they couldn't provide me 168 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:55.519 that transparency, that I was going to resign. And they said, 169 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:57.919 your resignation is effective immediately. 170 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:02.960 So I pivoted. I was like, okay, bye, and then 171 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:04.279 I was like, what am I going to do? 172 00:10:04.759 --> 00:10:07.919 So, you know, I knew I wanted to do something 173 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:11.240 that I could use my voice, I can inspire other 174 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:13.840 people to use their voice to like get out of 175 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:18.200 the sheep mentality, to become like, you know, leaders and 176 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:21.120 people who are guiding everyone into the right direction. 177 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:23.440 I knew I wanted to do that in some way. 178 00:10:23.639 --> 00:10:25.120 And how do you not go? 179 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:28.720 Because here's the art, Jessephine, Like, I could talk to 180 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:31.399 you about like the politics of it all, but what 181 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:34.919 really is fascinating to me about you is you right, 182 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:38.600 Like watching the passion that you speak with and watching 183 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:43.960 the conviction that you have committed to is the thing 184 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:46.480 that I'm trying to get people to find in themselves right, 185 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:49.600 and so tell me this before we even talk about 186 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:54.200 that once they said, okay, it's a wrap, you're resigned. 187 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:59.720 What was the space between that and then okay, I'm 188 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:03.200 going to do journalism, Like were you panicked? Did you 189 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:07.559 get from your family from anyone who is right? 190 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:12.399 Well, I mean, what is journalism? Speaking truth is what 191 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:13.360 I'm doing. Journalism? 192 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:15.519 I guess I call it that now. It's the easiest 193 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:20.039 word to use. I think that like a use word. 194 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:23.000 We using this language that describes I guess what we're doing. 195 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:25.600 But I really just feel like I'm just speaking truth 196 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:29.039 to power. That like if that's journalism, then that's journalism. 197 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:31.600 But you say I'm here. 198 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:35.039 Because I feel like your audience. 199 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:38.000 Would understand, you know, like, I'm. 200 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:39.279 Here to find out the truth and then I'm gonna 201 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:40.879 tell y'all about it. That's what I'm here to do. 202 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:42.720 Where are you from? Where are you from? 203 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:45.960 Where are you from? I'm from Louisiana, Okay, we saw it. 204 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:48.519 Just now I'm here to find the hands. 205 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:49.759 I'm here to find. 206 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:53.679 Out and then I'm gonna tell y'all And now. 207 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:54.600 We're gonna go from there. 208 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:57.200 Like you know if that's journalism, put it. 209 00:11:57.159 --> 00:11:57.799 In my title. 210 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:01.600 Okay, how did I get here? 211 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:05.039 Because I cannot sit back. I cannot sit back to. 212 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:07.200 You in that. Like you have four kids? Did the 213 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:08.679 people that are I mean, I don't know if you 214 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:10.480 have a partner or not, but like, did your family 215 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:11.559 did they support you in this? 216 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:12.080 Oh? 217 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:16.480 No, My family actually stopped talking to me November of 218 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:19.879 twenty twenty three because of my advocacy for Palestine. 219 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:21.559 Like my family are devo. 220 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:24.840 Catholics, they are all they all have been programmed to 221 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:28.240 be Christian Zionists and didn't even know it, did not 222 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:33.840 even understand that they were underneath those layers. But over 223 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:38.840 two years of very very much patience, I have finally 224 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:41.759 peeled those layers back and they. 225 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:42.600 Support me now. 226 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:45.279 And after two years of them cutting me off, we 227 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:46.639 spent things giving together. 228 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:52.519 They're ready for our revolution. Look tell them this. 229 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:54.519 Neither wait till you. 230 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:57.559 Oh we talked about it. Oh, believe me. I was 231 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:00.720 at the table talking about it. Sure, I was. 232 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:07.960 Opening up the Bible my aunts and uncles outside, I 233 00:13:08.120 --> 00:13:08.399 was that. 234 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:10.000 I was that one at the table. 235 00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:14.440 Of course, that makes perfect sense, That makes perfect sense. 236 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:18.200 I'm so happy that you've been able to bring them around. 237 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:21.360 That's tough, you know, that's tough. It's like you're already 238 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:23.799 fighting the world and then you're having to fight your world, 239 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:27.200 and it's like it just feels oftentimes very isolating. But 240 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:30.919 I'm really happy that you've been able to break through 241 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:36.519 and and now you you are finding your path in 242 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:39.360 this way. How has that been, Like, what's been do 243 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:43.919 you feel like you're I don't want to say struggles 244 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:45.879 because I don't want to, but what's been your process 245 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:47.879 in this new trajectory of life? 246 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:53.720 I mean, you know, I had been so hyper focused 247 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:58.000 on what was going on in Gaza and this genocide 248 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:04.559 that there were these like macro and even micro situations 249 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:08.720 that I wasn't aware of that really was the puppet 250 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:13.519 masters of everything going on. And I think that as Americans, 251 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:17.240 we have for the past two years really come to 252 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:20.240 this awareness of what's going on across party lines. 253 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:22.159 There's really an opportunity right. 254 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:25.919 Now for people that are decolonizing, that are deconstructing these 255 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:29.759 narratives that we've been told and there's a vacuum. And 256 00:14:29.960 --> 00:14:32.759 I really do feel like we as people who are 257 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:37.600 fighting for humanity no matter what party line color, race, religion, 258 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.480 no matter what, we have to fill that vacuum with truth, 259 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:44.919 and we have to fill that vacuum with love, and 260 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:48.639 like this, understanding that another there could be another vision 261 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:51.240 for this planet. And so I really do feel like 262 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:55.519 bringing truth to power continues that awareness while also in 263 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:59.320 practice as myself trying to be a person filled with love, 264 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:02.519 trying not to spread hate on any you know, person 265 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:06.320 understanding their own environment, their own construction. 266 00:15:06.840 --> 00:15:08.600 You know, we talk about my family two. 267 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:12.879 Years it took to deconstruct their colonized minds and that 268 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:15.559 wasn't easy, but doing it with love. We didn't call 269 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:18.440 each other names, we didn't argue with each other. We 270 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:21.320 took a distance, and then when when I could, I 271 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:23.600 would meet them where they were, try and pull them 272 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:26.399 a little bit more. Because what you hear that that's 273 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:32.679 the military. That's some of the military from Roosevelt Roads. 274 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:36.080 We have to meet people where they are, we really do. 275 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:38.480 That's that's the work. That's the hard work. You know, 276 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:40.799 you can't preach to the choir. That's not going to work. 277 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:43.879 You know, if you're talking to someone that already agrees 278 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:45.679 with you, then what kind of work are you doing? 279 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:48.320 You have to talk to people that disagree with you, 280 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:51.240 meet them where they are, don't scream at them, don't 281 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:55.399 call them names, just say, like, just present a better vision, 282 00:15:55.519 --> 00:15:58.120 a better option for the world, because this is going 283 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:02.840 to take generations to change, because we are deep, deep, 284 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:05.519 deep in the horrors of our species. 285 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:08.639 Just mean, I feel like you're yelling at me, because. 286 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:11.600 Why do you call people names? 287 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:16.159 Sometimes they can't help it. 288 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:19.399 That grace and mercy, we have to have grace and mercy. 289 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:28.960 Those are like, hey, grace and mercy, that's what I say. 290 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:36.679 And and that's doors for me, like learning about Jesus, 291 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:40.279 learning about the teachings of Jesus. After all these layers 292 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:43.279 deconstructed out of my mind of all this bs I've 293 00:16:43.320 --> 00:16:48.519 been taught, raised, raised as a Republican super white supremacist environment, 294 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:53.320 like with you know, patriotism is almost like a sacrifice, 295 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:56.679 like a sacrifice, like a ritual to patriots, to the country. 296 00:16:56.799 --> 00:17:01.080 It's its own like spiritual sacrifice that they'vemmed us to do. 297 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:04.599 And after I colonize a lot of those things, what. 298 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:09.359 Was left was the teachings of Jesus, almost like a manuscript, like, oh, 299 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:11.559 you know, if we do some of these things, he 300 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:14.559 was talking about y it really makes sense that we 301 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:16.839 could bring heaven on earth, we could get rid of 302 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:20.200 these you know this, these ways of thinking that our 303 00:17:20.279 --> 00:17:24.119 elite are trying to pressure all of us and in 304 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:25.000 doing that or. 305 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:27.200 Getting rid of the indigenous communities. 306 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:33.799 And that's the part because their brains are decolonized. So 307 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:35.839 who do they want to get rid of the most, 308 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:38.720 the ones who still who are not in the matrix. 309 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:42.720 They are targeting these communities on purpose, knowing that they're 310 00:17:42.759 --> 00:17:45.359 the ones that still exist that are decolonized. 311 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:49.400 You know. It's so I feel like I had no 312 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:56.319 real understanding of what indigenous communities were until the context 313 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:59.400 of Palestine as an indigenous community. It's like I felt 314 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:02.359 like I was just understanding that, you know, there are 315 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:06.640 folks whose land was stolen and you know that, But 316 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:10.079 I didn't understand the knowledge and the uniqueness of what 317 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:12.279 it means to be an indigenous community. Where did you 318 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:14.599 get that insight from and that knowledge? 319 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:19.119 Yeah, I think understanding the plight of Palestinians really made 320 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:21.599 me understand that too, because if I'm being honest in 321 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:24.440 my mind, I thought indigenous communities were just people that 322 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:28.279 still lived like you know, in like African villages like 323 00:18:28.359 --> 00:18:31.200 in the rainfown untouched in Jungles. 324 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:33.759 I always kind of just like assume. 325 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:37.200 That's an indigenous community, But no indigenous communities are people 326 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:40.039 that still live in harmony with the Earth, that still 327 00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:43.680 see humanity as a priority, that still believed that we 328 00:18:43.799 --> 00:18:46.559 are all one, We are all one family, and that 329 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:49.279 karma goes around, and that energies go around, and what 330 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:52.759 we do here can affect there, and like they truly 331 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:55.759 most indigenous people, I mean don't believe in killing our 332 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:56.559 own offspring. 333 00:18:56.880 --> 00:18:59.960 This is a human being, like human beings, human species. 334 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:02.799 These literally kill their own offspring. 335 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:06.240 What other mammal does that besides a lion when it 336 00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:07.720 kills the male cubs. 337 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:09.720 You don't find it often. 338 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:13.680 Where there's mammals that mass slaughter their own offspring. 339 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:14.960 They reject. 340 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:18.319 They may not slaughter, but they reject. They they may reject. 341 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:19.519 I'm not really with you. 342 00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:23.119 Go if we're supposed to be the most advanced species, 343 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:26.119 the most conscious species, and we're doing this kind of thing, 344 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:28.400 you know, we have to ask ourselves are we really 345 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:32.880 evolved as a species. And the indigenous people really teach 346 00:19:32.920 --> 00:19:35.640 you to have that harmony back with Earth, and you 347 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:38.240 know creation, in God's creation of who you are and 348 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:40.920 what you're really meant to do here, and I think 349 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:44.000 we're really erasing that sacred knowledge. 350 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:46.000 How do you connect this to your kids? 351 00:19:47.559 --> 00:19:48.000 Oh? 352 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:49.599 Number one? 353 00:19:50.440 --> 00:19:57.119 Number one, it's because it's not easy to decolonize while 354 00:19:57.160 --> 00:20:00.000 also trying to raise children to not be colonized. 355 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:02.319 It's not easy. You know. 356 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:05.119 I have four children and my oldest is sixteen, So 357 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:08.119 to a degree, I'm starting a little bit later with her, 358 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:10.440 and I do get a lot of hesitation because I 359 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:15.240 think capitalism and like material things and like Lululemon tights, 360 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:18.519 like for her that she was homecoming Queen this year. 361 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:24.039 She's still in this like oh's girl. Yeah yeah, So. 362 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:26.759 It's a little bit harder with her, but for sure 363 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:29.559 she's for free Palestine one percent. 364 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:30.000 Ok. 365 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:32.279 We love ame Queen Palestinian. 366 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:35.599 We have it exactly, and you know she has. She 367 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:38.880 her and her friends boycott Starbucks. They don't go to 368 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:40.200 Starbucks for coffee anymore. 369 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:41.559 All the cheerily giving. 370 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:44.279 Credit like that's big because that's I've done. 371 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:49.200 So I think, so hey steps, baby steps. Now I 372 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:51.799 have a two, four and five year old, so this 373 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:55.640 is really some crucial times for us as mothers with 374 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:59.799 young children, where we are imprinting on them like forever, 375 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.400 and so I am very careful in what we're teaching them, 376 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:07.960 what we're saying, what they're watching is so important, especially 377 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:11.279 when you got YouTube running for three hours with whatever 378 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:14.960 it wants to put in your algorithm, like everything, like 379 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:18.279 in their environment, I'm hyper focused on because I want 380 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:21.720 to make sure that they become just like I am 381 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:26.039 right now speaking out for people, especially as white blondies 382 00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:29.440 like and and two of them are boys, So like 383 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:33.359 white blonde boys speaking out for oppressed people, I'm gonna 384 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:33.599 need that. 385 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:38.039 I mean, because Josephine, we here at Views from Mandolin, 386 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:43.880 do consider you a hmm hahih quae Letty white? 387 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:47.160 And that is a very. 388 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:50.079 That's a big deal. 389 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:51.240 Okay. 390 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:53.799 So I mean I'm at some point I'm going to 391 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:55.319 do a book of high quality whites and. 392 00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:58.839 You're in it. Yeah, my first preh. 393 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:03.079 Yeah, No one needs to know about peace prize gets 394 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:05.799 you a high quality white prize. Yeah. 395 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:08.960 I don't want to have my four kids like that, 396 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:12.000 because that is where I can make the first difference, 397 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:14.839 the number one difference I can make for the future 398 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:18.799 of this world is my kids like I have direct 399 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:21.279 access and control over what goes in and out of 400 00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:22.680 their little brains and their hearts. 401 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:25.480