Speaker 1: We have Josephine Gilbot with us, and I'm gonna show
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Speaker 2: Miss Josephine Gilbo. I'm a seventeen year Army veteran. I
Speaker 2: recently got out of the military last year.
Speaker 3: For one year, I have watched andreel bun children alive.
Speaker 3: You don't care about veterans, you don't care about American values.
Speaker 2: You are destroying this company.
Speaker 3: This country may not give you the moral courage to
Speaker 3: do the right day. Having that background as an intelligence
Speaker 3: officer and understanding what defense actually is, I can see
Speaker 3: clearly that this is not self defense.
Speaker 2: Shay on you.
Speaker 3: So we just approached Brian matth and are you spying
Speaker 3: for Israel? We need veterans from California all the way
Speaker 3: to New York to stand against what we are witnessing
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, breaking news.
Speaker 4: Congress has just passed FY twenty twenty six National Defense
Speaker 4: Authorization Act, which authorizes nearly nine hundred billion dollars of
Speaker 4: American taxpayer dollars to defense, but spending ride up.
Speaker 1: Ride up, America, Rid up. It is time to take
Speaker 1: back this country.
Speaker 3: From these corrupt politicians. Amen.
Speaker 1: Good, Yeah, we are, we are.
Speaker 3: Hello Joseph, Hello Amanda, it is good to see you.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what a question that is.
Speaker 3: So I am located about half a mile from Roosevelt
Speaker 3: Roads Base in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 2: It is a base that.
Speaker 3: Was closed down in two thousand and four and the
Speaker 3: United States military has recently opened it back up in
Speaker 3: order to orchestrate this it's imperialism on Venezuela. And so
Speaker 3: I am actually here joined investigative journalism to see exactly
Speaker 3: what is going on here and to also show solidarity
Speaker 3: with the people in Puerto Rico that they have a
Speaker 3: right to resist this.
Speaker 2: This is their island.
Speaker 3: The United States does not have the authority to use
Speaker 3: their island as a forward operating base to fight this
Speaker 3: you know, war as they like to call it, with Venezuela.
Speaker 3: So I'm here just getting some grassroots actions off the ground.
Speaker 1: And yeah wow, I mean I had no idea that
Speaker 1: was going on. And that is why investigative reporting is
Speaker 1: so necessary because the goal is to keep it quiet,
Speaker 1: and you are putting it on blasts. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for your service in that regard as well as
Speaker 1: in the military. What even brought you to the military.
Speaker 2: Actually, you know, I grew up really poor in America.
Speaker 3: My father was a disabled veteran and you know, if
Speaker 3: anyone in your audience doesn't understand how they collect a check,
Speaker 3: like it's based off of you know what percentage you're disabled.
Speaker 3: And you know, I watched him fight with the VA
Speaker 3: my entire childhood to collect like liveable wage money because
Speaker 3: he was in severe pain all the time from an
Speaker 3: injury from the military. So we were really really poor
Speaker 3: living off of that. And when I turned eighteen, I
Speaker 3: wanted to.
Speaker 2: Go to college.
Speaker 3: Both of my parents had not graduated high school, so
Speaker 3: this was like a huge goal and like, you know,
Speaker 3: something I wanted to do, and the only path that
Speaker 3: I really saw that could be possible was to join
Speaker 3: the military because at the time, they had started introducing
Speaker 3: the free college and Senate, so I was basically a
Speaker 3: part of.
Speaker 2: The economic draft into the military, you.
Speaker 3: Know, seeking the ability to go to college.
Speaker 1: When did this flip happen for you?
Speaker 2: I think like in all.
Speaker 3: Honestly, it wasn't like a one time situation. I think
Speaker 3: that like over time things were started happening in my life,
Speaker 3: like seeds maybe getting planted, and then like something else
Speaker 3: would happen and it would go back and like kind
Speaker 3: of water that idea that had come in my head before,
Speaker 3: and I think really like the biggest impact as far
Speaker 3: as it comes to understanding what's going on, but with
Speaker 3: the genocide and Gaza specifically, which is really what pushed
Speaker 3: me to the edge of like saying enough is enough. Yeah,
Speaker 3: was in twenty seventeen I was doing. I was an
Speaker 3: intelligence analyst for DA Defense Intelligence Agency working on a
Speaker 3: Habeas Corpus contract, which is focused on like legal processes
Speaker 3: for the detainees in Guantanamo Bay. There is a like
Speaker 3: a due process I guess and I quote because it's
Speaker 3: not really due process, but called Habeas Corpus that if
Speaker 3: you're being detained without charge, you can file.
Speaker 2: Through Habeas Corpus to for your legal right to be freed.
Speaker 3: And many of the detainees and Guantanamobay are still there
Speaker 3: almost two decades now without any charges. So I was
Speaker 3: a part of that team and some of the information
Speaker 3: that I was reading was really kind of shocking my consciousness,
Speaker 3: Like some information all the way back that now has
Speaker 3: gone public about torture camps and black sites and you know,
Speaker 3: Abu graves, like all of those things I was kind
Speaker 3: of reading about from the inside, and it kind of
Speaker 3: shook me a little bit. And so, I mean I
Speaker 3: didn't really, it didn't shake me too much, but enough
Speaker 3: that I was like, I'm going to start following international
Speaker 3: media outlets. I want to start hearing what are people
Speaker 3: saying in these other countries that this is happening to,
Speaker 3: or other powerful global leaders. What are they all sort
Speaker 3: of saying about this. This is twenty seventeen, fast.
Speaker 2: Forward to October seventh.
Speaker 3: I'm following these media outlets and literally on my phone
Speaker 3: is video after video after video of mass slaughter of children.
Speaker 3: I mean what I was witnessing children's body parts everywhere,
Speaker 3: Like I was just like in shock, and in a
Speaker 3: matter of two weeks witnessing this and then also witnessing
Speaker 3: my government, my leaders, western media outlets lying literally what
Speaker 3: my eyes could see.
Speaker 2: So you're telling me my eyes are lying. This was
Speaker 2: not self defense.
Speaker 3: I've seen some really crazy things in the US military
Speaker 3: but I had never seen anything to this scale of
Speaker 3: devastation of death and destruction.
Speaker 2: And from our leaders to say that this was justified
Speaker 2: as self defense.
Speaker 3: That we were going to normalize this. I was like,
Speaker 3: hell no, not under my name. I have four children.
Speaker 3: We are not going to normalize this.
Speaker 2: Like what we do there will always come back here.
Speaker 2: Hell no.
Speaker 3: So this is like what pushed me out to start
Speaker 3: speaking and saying, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 3: say something like publicly it's and I'm going to use
Speaker 3: my credentials to say, look, I was a part of it.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: So you know, people love to use their kids as
Speaker 1: a reason for why they won't do that. People love
Speaker 1: to say, well, I have kids, so I just I
Speaker 1: can't speak out. How does that work for you.
Speaker 3: I'm doing this in part for not only my kids,
Speaker 3: because I have an instinctual feeling that.
Speaker 2: All children are my children.
Speaker 3: I'm doing this for the future of our children, for
Speaker 3: the future of our speed, for the future of humanity.
Speaker 2: If we don't do this the like this is, you know,
Speaker 2: things are going to get worse. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to be like a doomer, but things are going but.
Speaker 3: Things are going to get worse, Like I came here
Speaker 3: to Puerto Rico to study the military escalation only to
Speaker 3: find out a whole nother shlew of things that are
Speaker 3: happening on this island to these people, by US government,
Speaker 3: by the elite, by corporations like this is you were
Speaker 3: talking about it right before I came on. This is
Speaker 3: happening internationally on a global scale. The leaders in Japan
Speaker 3: have been brainwashed and corrupted, The leaders in Puerto Rico
Speaker 3: have been brainwashed and corrupted. There are literally coups happening
Speaker 3: across the planet in order for empire to keep itself going.
Speaker 1: So when we see that, where do we pivot to?
Speaker 1: Because I'm curious, Actually, did you know that you were
Speaker 1: going to Was it a plan to pivot to journalism? No?
Speaker 3: I was a cybersecurity engineer working for a centure like
Speaker 3: making over two hundred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 2: I quit everything.
Speaker 3: And you know the reason I quitted a centre I
Speaker 3: was trying to do both was because I emailed them
Speaker 3: and I asked for full transparency if they employed IDF soldiers,
Speaker 3: because we have a cyber lab in Israel, what company
Speaker 3: does and I was like, Uh, I'm not comfortable working
Speaker 3: for a company where I may be in the presence
Speaker 3: of these war criminals, these murders of children. So I
Speaker 3: asked HR for transparency if they employed current IDF or
Speaker 3: former IDF soldiers from Israel that could potentially be complicit
Speaker 3: in war crimes, and that if they couldn't provide me
Speaker 3: that transparency, that I was going to resign. And they said,
Speaker 3: your resignation is effective immediately.
Speaker 2: So I pivoted. I was like, okay, bye, and then
Speaker 2: I was like, what am I going to do?
Speaker 3: So, you know, I knew I wanted to do something
Speaker 3: that I could use my voice, I can inspire other
Speaker 3: people to use their voice to like get out of
Speaker 3: the sheep mentality, to become like, you know, leaders and
Speaker 3: people who are guiding everyone into the right direction.
Speaker 2: I knew I wanted to do that in some way.
Speaker 2: And how do you not go?
Speaker 1: Because here's the art, Jessephine, Like, I could talk to
Speaker 1: you about like the politics of it all, but what
Speaker 1: really is fascinating to me about you is you right,
Speaker 1: Like watching the passion that you speak with and watching
Speaker 1: the conviction that you have committed to is the thing
Speaker 1: that I'm trying to get people to find in themselves right,
Speaker 1: and so tell me this before we even talk about
Speaker 1: that once they said, okay, it's a wrap, you're resigned.
Speaker 1: What was the space between that and then okay, I'm
Speaker 1: going to do journalism, Like were you panicked? Did you
Speaker 1: get from your family from anyone who is right?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, what is journalism? Speaking truth is what
Speaker 2: I'm doing. Journalism?
Speaker 3: I guess I call it that now. It's the easiest
Speaker 3: word to use. I think that like a use word.
Speaker 3: We using this language that describes I guess what we're doing.
Speaker 3: But I really just feel like I'm just speaking truth
Speaker 3: to power. That like if that's journalism, then that's journalism.
Speaker 1: But you say I'm here.
Speaker 2: Because I feel like your audience.
Speaker 3: Would understand, you know, like, I'm.
Speaker 2: Here to find out the truth and then I'm gonna
Speaker 2: tell y'all about it. That's what I'm here to do.
Speaker 1: Where are you from? Where are you from?
Speaker 2: Where are you from? I'm from Louisiana, Okay, we saw it.
Speaker 1: Just now I'm here to find the hands.
Speaker 2: I'm here to find.
Speaker 3: Out and then I'm gonna tell y'all And now.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go from there.
Speaker 3: Like you know if that's journalism, put it.
Speaker 2: In my title.
Speaker 3: Okay, how did I get here?
Speaker 2: Because I cannot sit back. I cannot sit back to.
Speaker 1: You in that. Like you have four kids? Did the
Speaker 1: people that are I mean, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: have a partner or not, but like, did your family
Speaker 1: did they support you in this?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: No, My family actually stopped talking to me November of
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three because of my advocacy for Palestine.
Speaker 2: Like my family are devo.
Speaker 3: Catholics, they are all they all have been programmed to
Speaker 3: be Christian Zionists and didn't even know it, did not
Speaker 3: even understand that they were underneath those layers. But over
Speaker 3: two years of very very much patience, I have finally
Speaker 3: peeled those layers back and they.
Speaker 2: Support me now.
Speaker 3: And after two years of them cutting me off, we
Speaker 3: spent things giving together.
Speaker 2: They're ready for our revolution. Look tell them this.
Speaker 1: Neither wait till you.
Speaker 2: Oh we talked about it. Oh, believe me. I was
Speaker 2: at the table talking about it. Sure, I was.
Speaker 3: Opening up the Bible my aunts and uncles outside, I
Speaker 3: was that.
Speaker 2: I was that one at the table.
Speaker 1: Of course, that makes perfect sense, That makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you've been able to bring them around.
Speaker 1: That's tough, you know, that's tough. It's like you're already
Speaker 1: fighting the world and then you're having to fight your world,
Speaker 1: and it's like it just feels oftentimes very isolating. But
Speaker 1: I'm really happy that you've been able to break through
Speaker 1: and and now you you are finding your path in
Speaker 1: this way. How has that been, Like, what's been do
Speaker 1: you feel like you're I don't want to say struggles
Speaker 1: because I don't want to, but what's been your process
Speaker 1: in this new trajectory of life?
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I had been so hyper focused
Speaker 3: on what was going on in Gaza and this genocide
Speaker 3: that there were these like macro and even micro situations
Speaker 3: that I wasn't aware of that really was the puppet
Speaker 3: masters of everything going on. And I think that as Americans,
Speaker 3: we have for the past two years really come to
Speaker 3: this awareness of what's going on across party lines.
Speaker 2: There's really an opportunity right.
Speaker 3: Now for people that are decolonizing, that are deconstructing these
Speaker 3: narratives that we've been told and there's a vacuum. And
Speaker 3: I really do feel like we as people who are
Speaker 3: fighting for humanity no matter what party line color, race, religion,
Speaker 3: no matter what, we have to fill that vacuum with truth,
Speaker 3: and we have to fill that vacuum with love, and
Speaker 3: like this, understanding that another there could be another vision
Speaker 3: for this planet. And so I really do feel like
Speaker 3: bringing truth to power continues that awareness while also in
Speaker 3: practice as myself trying to be a person filled with love,
Speaker 3: trying not to spread hate on any you know, person
Speaker 3: understanding their own environment, their own construction.
Speaker 2: You know, we talk about my family two.
Speaker 3: Years it took to deconstruct their colonized minds and that
Speaker 3: wasn't easy, but doing it with love. We didn't call
Speaker 3: each other names, we didn't argue with each other. We
Speaker 3: took a distance, and then when when I could, I
Speaker 3: would meet them where they were, try and pull them
Speaker 3: a little bit more. Because what you hear that that's
Speaker 3: the military. That's some of the military from Roosevelt Roads.
Speaker 2: We have to meet people where they are, we really do.
Speaker 2: That's that's the work. That's the hard work. You know,
Speaker 2: you can't preach to the choir. That's not going to work.
Speaker 3: You know, if you're talking to someone that already agrees
Speaker 3: with you, then what kind of work are you doing?
Speaker 3: You have to talk to people that disagree with you,
Speaker 3: meet them where they are, don't scream at them, don't
Speaker 3: call them names, just say, like, just present a better vision,
Speaker 3: a better option for the world, because this is going
Speaker 3: to take generations to change, because we are deep, deep,
Speaker 3: deep in the horrors of our species.
Speaker 1: Just mean, I feel like you're yelling at me, because.
Speaker 2: Why do you call people names?
Speaker 1: Sometimes they can't help it.
Speaker 3: That grace and mercy, we have to have grace and mercy.
Speaker 3: Those are like, hey, grace and mercy, that's what I say.
Speaker 3: And and that's doors for me, like learning about Jesus,
Speaker 3: learning about the teachings of Jesus. After all these layers
Speaker 3: deconstructed out of my mind of all this bs I've
Speaker 3: been taught, raised, raised as a Republican super white supremacist environment,
Speaker 3: like with you know, patriotism is almost like a sacrifice,
Speaker 3: like a sacrifice, like a ritual to patriots, to the country.
Speaker 3: It's its own like spiritual sacrifice that they'vemmed us to do.
Speaker 2: And after I colonize a lot of those things, what.
Speaker 3: Was left was the teachings of Jesus, almost like a manuscript, like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, if we do some of these things, he
Speaker 3: was talking about y it really makes sense that we
Speaker 3: could bring heaven on earth, we could get rid of
Speaker 3: these you know this, these ways of thinking that our
Speaker 3: elite are trying to pressure all of us and in
Speaker 3: doing that or.
Speaker 2: Getting rid of the indigenous communities.
Speaker 3: And that's the part because their brains are decolonized. So
Speaker 3: who do they want to get rid of the most,
Speaker 3: the ones who still who are not in the matrix.
Speaker 3: They are targeting these communities on purpose, knowing that they're
Speaker 3: the ones that still exist that are decolonized.
Speaker 1: You know. It's so I feel like I had no
Speaker 1: real understanding of what indigenous communities were until the context
Speaker 1: of Palestine as an indigenous community. It's like I felt
Speaker 1: like I was just understanding that, you know, there are
Speaker 1: folks whose land was stolen and you know that, But
Speaker 1: I didn't understand the knowledge and the uniqueness of what
Speaker 1: it means to be an indigenous community. Where did you
Speaker 1: get that insight from and that knowledge?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think understanding the plight of Palestinians really made
Speaker 3: me understand that too, because if I'm being honest in
Speaker 3: my mind, I thought indigenous communities were just people that
Speaker 3: still lived like you know, in like African villages like
Speaker 3: in the rainfown untouched in Jungles.
Speaker 2: I always kind of just like assume.
Speaker 3: That's an indigenous community, But no indigenous communities are people
Speaker 3: that still live in harmony with the Earth, that still
Speaker 3: see humanity as a priority, that still believed that we
Speaker 3: are all one, We are all one family, and that
Speaker 3: karma goes around, and that energies go around, and what
Speaker 3: we do here can affect there, and like they truly
Speaker 3: most indigenous people, I mean don't believe in killing our
Speaker 3: own offspring.
Speaker 2: This is a human being, like human beings, human species.
Speaker 2: These literally kill their own offspring.
Speaker 3: What other mammal does that besides a lion when it
Speaker 3: kills the male cubs.
Speaker 2: You don't find it often.
Speaker 3: Where there's mammals that mass slaughter their own offspring.
Speaker 2: They reject.
Speaker 1: They may not slaughter, but they reject. They they may reject.
Speaker 1: I'm not really with you.
Speaker 3: Go if we're supposed to be the most advanced species,
Speaker 3: the most conscious species, and we're doing this kind of thing,
Speaker 3: you know, we have to ask ourselves are we really
Speaker 3: evolved as a species. And the indigenous people really teach
Speaker 3: you to have that harmony back with Earth, and you
Speaker 3: know creation, in God's creation of who you are and
Speaker 3: what you're really meant to do here, and I think
Speaker 3: we're really erasing that sacred knowledge.
Speaker 1: How do you connect this to your kids?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Number one?
Speaker 3: Number one, it's because it's not easy to decolonize while
Speaker 3: also trying to raise children to not be colonized.
Speaker 2: It's not easy. You know.
Speaker 3: I have four children and my oldest is sixteen, So
Speaker 3: to a degree, I'm starting a little bit later with her,
Speaker 3: and I do get a lot of hesitation because I
Speaker 3: think capitalism and like material things and like Lululemon tights,
Speaker 3: like for her that she was homecoming Queen this year.
Speaker 2: She's still in this like oh's girl. Yeah yeah, So.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit harder with her, but for sure
Speaker 3: she's for free Palestine one percent.
Speaker 2: Ok.
Speaker 1: We love ame Queen Palestinian.
Speaker 3: We have it exactly, and you know she has. She
Speaker 3: her and her friends boycott Starbucks. They don't go to
Speaker 3: Starbucks for coffee anymore.
Speaker 2: All the cheerily giving.
Speaker 1: Credit like that's big because that's I've done.
Speaker 3: So I think, so hey steps, baby steps. Now I
Speaker 3: have a two, four and five year old, so this
Speaker 3: is really some crucial times for us as mothers with
Speaker 3: young children, where we are imprinting on them like forever,
Speaker 3: and so I am very careful in what we're teaching them,
Speaker 3: what we're saying, what they're watching is so important, especially
Speaker 3: when you got YouTube running for three hours with whatever
Speaker 3: it wants to put in your algorithm, like everything, like
Speaker 3: in their environment, I'm hyper focused on because I want
Speaker 3: to make sure that they become just like I am
Speaker 3: right now speaking out for people, especially as white blondies
Speaker 3: like and and two of them are boys, So like
Speaker 3: white blonde boys speaking out for oppressed people, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: need that.
Speaker 1: I mean, because Josephine, we here at Views from Mandolin,
Speaker 1: do consider you a hmm hahih quae Letty white?
Speaker 3: And that is a very.
Speaker 1: That's a big deal.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So I mean I'm at some point I'm going to
Speaker 1: do a book of high quality whites and.
Speaker 2: You're in it. Yeah, my first preh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No one needs to know about peace prize gets
Speaker 1: you a high quality white prize. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't want to have my four kids like that,
Speaker 3: because that is where I can make the first difference,
Speaker 3: the number one difference I can make for the future
Speaker 3: of this world is my kids like I have direct
Speaker 3: access and control over what goes in and out of
Speaker 3: their little brains and their hearts.
Speaker 2: And so number one for me is a mother. That
Speaker 2: is a priority.
Speaker 3: Like I am hyper focused on making sure that I'm
Speaker 3: talking about things with them, even about food, healthy food,
Speaker 3: unhealthy food, happy food versus healthy food, that's what we
Speaker 3: call it. And like I'm deconstructing all of these things
Speaker 3: because i want them to carry on.
Speaker 2: This knowledge and these ideas.
Speaker 3: And I hope other mothers like if they feel like, oh,
Speaker 3: I can't go to protests or I can't you know,
Speaker 3: do any of these things. The one thing you can
Speaker 3: do in your home is decolonize your children.
Speaker 1: Yeah, heard that that's the one thing you can do
Speaker 1: in your home. Can you give people any tips on
Speaker 1: beginning that process? I know one you said it's also
Speaker 1: about what they're It's about what they're watching.
Speaker 3: Yes, watching cultural things like putting things on TV that
Speaker 3: talks about another culture or like a cartoon that is
Speaker 3: placed in like another culture. I really love Bluie and
Speaker 3: you know, if you have like a two three year old,
Speaker 3: it's the perfect one. Bluey is so I mean they're
Speaker 3: they're from Australia and they have, you know, the little
Speaker 3: funny accent. It's gonna probably be your kid's first time
Speaker 3: hearing a different accent. But they're such a nice family
Speaker 3: and they love each other. It's like a great way
Speaker 3: to introduce your kids to another that speaks English that
Speaker 3: they can understand, but also introducing them to like little
Speaker 3: mini animated documentaries about Palestine or about Sudan, or about
Speaker 3: I mean, like anywhere China just fill in the blank, right,
Speaker 3: So I think, like as far as like television goes,
Speaker 3: just making sure things are cultural books.
Speaker 2: What books are you reading to your kids that night?
Speaker 2: What do the characters look like?
Speaker 3: Are you picking books with all white as a white
Speaker 3: weather of all white children? Or am I picking books
Speaker 3: where the people look different and dress different and maybe
Speaker 3: speak differently. That's important too, because that's imprinting in their mind.
Speaker 3: We read books every night, So my books are about
Speaker 3: I get books about Ramadan, I get books about Palestine.
Speaker 2: You know, to like why is mommy saving the children?
Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you about the still children Mommy's
Speaker 3: trying to save, and like introducing them to that and
Speaker 3: also taking them to events like story times that are
Speaker 3: in a community of people that you might not normally
Speaker 3: go there. So like, if you want to introduce your
Speaker 3: children to have Muslim friends, go to the community where
Speaker 3: the Muslim people are, go to the park, go to
Speaker 3: their library, go to their story time, go to events
Speaker 3: that they put on, like their you know markets, what
Speaker 3: do you call all the markets on the weekends, not
Speaker 3: fresh markets.
Speaker 2: Like farmers farmers markets, the farmers.
Speaker 3: Markets, like, go into these different communities and introduce your
Speaker 3: kids to them, because I'm telling you, the minute that
Speaker 3: your child grows up, for example, with a Muslim friend,
Speaker 3: any propaganda about Muslim they're gonna be like, what are
Speaker 3: they talking about, Like I'm not a Muslim friend, right,
Speaker 3: that's not right.
Speaker 1: And the other one that you named is decolonizing their palate,
Speaker 1: right because this the food that they're eating, right, welcoming them,
Speaker 1: introducing them to different foods. And you know, my first
Speaker 1: grade teacher, I'm still in touch with her, and she
Speaker 1: said that she ended up leaving education when she stopped
Speaker 1: being able to be creative with how she was bringing
Speaker 1: that to kids. And they used to do a unit
Speaker 1: where they would have on every Friday, they would bring
Speaker 1: in like a dish from somebody's parents culture and they
Speaker 1: said this it was allowed to do that anymore.
Speaker 2: Right, So I'm not surprised to hear that.
Speaker 3: I'm honestly not surprised to hear that, because in America
Speaker 3: are like like the Department of Education and the curriculum
Speaker 3: that they pushed down our throats is very much to
Speaker 3: colonize us, very much, to put these walls between us
Speaker 3: and these other ideas about people or to extend love
Speaker 3: to other people. They definitely from a young age in
Speaker 3: our public schools start that brainwashing.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean, I feel very fortunate to have been
Speaker 1: to public school in the early eighties before things got
Speaker 1: really really crazy. Like I remember us learning how to
Speaker 1: make guacamole because there was mad Mexicans in the class. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we had to learn how to make guacamole. And
Speaker 1: at the time, my palette was not developed yet. Josephine
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is nasty, and now you
Speaker 1: cannot keep me away from guacamole.
Speaker 2: I just had some here.
Speaker 3: I went to the rash and I said, uh, do
Speaker 3: you have guacamole not from the bag, because I don't
Speaker 3: use guacamolely from a bag, Like if you didn't make
Speaker 3: that guacamole.
Speaker 2: From avocado like two hours ago, I can't touch it.
Speaker 1: So where do you find yourself? I mean I don't
Speaker 1: like asking people what's next because you're already in the
Speaker 1: midst of what's next right Like you're literally in Puerto
Speaker 1: Rico and you are working with the people. I guess
Speaker 1: the question I have for you is what is an
Speaker 1: interest that has that has come into your horizon that
Speaker 1: you feel like Americans don't know about but need to.
Speaker 2: I think running for office.
Speaker 3: I think people need to understand how impactful it is
Speaker 3: to run for school board, to run for local city council,
Speaker 3: to run for Congress, to run for mayor, and don't
Speaker 3: under like not to under ask maate themselves. I have
Speaker 3: met so many people right now that are running for
Speaker 3: positions in Congress, and like, if we back them, and
Speaker 3: these are people with like humanity principled in their heart?
Speaker 2: Do I agree with them about everything? No? But do
Speaker 2: I see that at least principled in their you know,
Speaker 2: its souls? It is humanity.
Speaker 3: If we get around and like primaries are coming up,
Speaker 3: March primaries, if we can get five to ten candidates
Speaker 3: that we can all grassroots throw our efforts behind to
Speaker 3: promote we could start showing these politicians that have been
Speaker 3: corrupted that we do hold the power. And I think
Speaker 3: that's one of the biggest things is people need to
Speaker 3: understand we hold the power. We do. They've tried brainwashing
Speaker 3: us to believe that we don't, but we really do do.
Speaker 3: I think we can vote our way out of this.
Speaker 2: No not as no, no no.
Speaker 3: But if we're not gonna have if we're not at
Speaker 3: a seventeen seventy six revolution, then we need to use
Speaker 3: the tools that we do have right now to at least.
Speaker 2: Slow down what is coming, like down the pipeline, the.
Speaker 3: Death and destruction that is increasing across the planet, both
Speaker 3: here at home with immigrants getting separated, mothers and children
Speaker 3: getting separated, and then this, you know, nation is claiming Christianity.
Speaker 3: It's all being done under the name of Christianity. Do
Speaker 3: you like I talk to people who support the ice
Speaker 3: and immigration, I'm like, you, as a Christian, are supporting
Speaker 3: like these police to separate Christian families. Most of these immigrants,
Speaker 3: by the way, are are Christians brothers and Christian brothers
Speaker 3: and sisters.
Speaker 2: So how is that christian? It's Christian? They're not Christian.
Speaker 3: They're abusing the religion of Christianity, just like Benjamin Netanyah
Speaker 3: who has abused the religion of Judaism to perpetrate an agenda.
Speaker 3: And of course I'm not going to leave about the
Speaker 3: fact that there are Muslims that abuse is to perpetrate agendas.
Speaker 3: It happens across the board, and recognizing that and calling
Speaker 3: that that out is so important. So if we're not
Speaker 3: going to have a seventeen seventy six revolution, we got
Speaker 3: to start voting for people until we could get there.
Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you and thank you so much for
Speaker 1: all of your efforts and for always being willing to
Speaker 1: raise your voice, put your body on the line, get arrested,
Speaker 1: and also for actually taking a very direct and proactive
Speaker 1: effort as a parent to raising people right because people
Speaker 1: think about kids. No, you're raising adults that are carrying
Speaker 1: forth and need to understand that the world they're coming
Speaker 1: into is going to require them to actually be the
Speaker 1: ones that shift it. So that is not lost on me.
Speaker 1: So thank you so much, Josephine. We are definitely lifting
Speaker 1: you up in a high vibration over there in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: And stay safe, And I say stay safe, but you're
Speaker 1: not going to stay safe, so.
Speaker 2: Just be protected, Everyboddy, I just told I'm here.
Speaker 3: I met up with a friend in Puerto Rico who's
Speaker 3: been on this journey with me, and I literally left
Speaker 3: her house and told her mom and Anne.
Speaker 2: I said, all right, we're going get in trouble now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, say say. It's a silly way to send you off.
Speaker 1: So be protected and just know that we're all here
Speaker 1: rooting for you.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Free Puerto Rico, free Palestine, free Turtle Island.
Speaker 1: All the above. Thank you so much, Josephine, You're so lucky, y'all.
Speaker 2: Bye Bunia,