1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Consider supporting Studio Both And on Patreon. Patrons have access 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:09,160 to ad free and early episodes, bonus content, file access, 3 00:00:09,279 --> 00:00:13,080 event discounts, and more, and all Patreon support goes directly 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,800 into our investigations. To support the show, go to Patreon 5 00:00:16,879 --> 00:00:30,760 dot com slash studio both And. This is a studio 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,479 Both And Production. 7 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: There's a it's a private residence, but it's near Little Oklahoma, 8 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,240 which I never heard about until this particular time. But 9 00:00:44,359 --> 00:00:46,280 it's an area in Port Angelas, so you can find 10 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,079 it on the map to kind of get an overview 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,159 of like, Okay, it's this area. I can't reveal the 12 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,799 address or anything like that, but some of the cold 13 00:00:54,799 --> 00:00:57,759 case detectives were following up on some leads and stuff 14 00:00:57,799 --> 00:01:02,079 and found this particular resident is it was associated with 15 00:01:02,119 --> 00:01:06,120 a friend of Keys, and so interviewing this couple that 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,840 owned the residents, they learned that, yeah, he's had his 17 00:01:08,879 --> 00:01:10,319 boat in there and was doing a lot of his 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:15,200 boat work at that time at this particular location, which was. 19 00:01:15,159 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: New to us. 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,719 Speaker 2: We assumed he had hauled the boat all the way 21 00:01:17,799 --> 00:01:20,159 to Nia Bay and was doing a lot of the 22 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,719 work on it there. Lor Angels actually makes a lot 23 00:01:22,719 --> 00:01:24,920 of sense because that's where all the stores are where 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,239 he would have, you know, gone to get supplies and 25 00:01:27,239 --> 00:01:30,079 stuff to fix up the boat. So it makes perfect sense. 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,640 But again another data point where Okay, here's a location 27 00:01:33,799 --> 00:01:35,760 where you know he was working on his boat and 28 00:01:35,799 --> 00:01:39,760 had access to and so we've been invited to go 29 00:01:39,799 --> 00:01:41,159 out and take a look at the area in the 30 00:01:41,159 --> 00:01:44,719 future and just check it out for whatever may becomes 31 00:01:44,719 --> 00:01:47,159 significant from that. But that was something new that we 32 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,959 learned from this cold case that's been working on this. 33 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: I've never been under any illusion about my relationship with 34 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,079 Hula and the Greater FBI. I'm a tool to them. 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,280 He'll tell me just enough to get me working on something, 36 00:02:05,319 --> 00:02:08,520 to connect the dots, do the leg work, find the 37 00:02:08,599 --> 00:02:13,360 right people, incite the right tips and questions. The relationship 38 00:02:13,479 --> 00:02:18,280 only appears symbiotic. So when Halla told me about this 39 00:02:18,319 --> 00:02:21,719 house in Little Oklahoma, I was pretty certain he felt 40 00:02:21,759 --> 00:02:25,599 it was important, but not necessarily the best use of 41 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:30,280 his limited time. But I'm happy to do the work 42 00:02:30,719 --> 00:02:34,680 if it gets results. I believe the FBI or Haula 43 00:02:34,759 --> 00:02:38,680 at a minimum, wants this case as close to solved 44 00:02:38,719 --> 00:02:42,199 as it can be, and that's something we share. Whatever 45 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:47,439 solved may mean when it comes to Israel Keys. At 46 00:02:47,439 --> 00:02:51,400 this point, I believe we know who ninety percent of 47 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,479 Keys as knowable victims are. That the evidence and information 48 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,919 we have points to specific people and incidents, and now 49 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,840 our main focus is to fill in the gaps, strengthen 50 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,479 our cases, get as close to confirmed as we can 51 00:03:08,599 --> 00:03:11,879 with what little we have. And this boat house in 52 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:21,280 Port Angelis felt like a good lead to follow. This 53 00:03:21,479 --> 00:03:25,599 is true crime bullshit. The Serialized Investigation into Israel Keys 54 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:39,680 Season seven, Episode three. Little Oklahoma Little Oklahoma is a 55 00:03:39,719 --> 00:03:44,960 small and rural area in southeast Port Angelus. It's so rural, 56 00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:49,800 in fact, that it's actually unincorporated Clallam County, not technically 57 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,599 within the city limits, and serviced by Clallam County rather 58 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,879 than the city itself. However, for postal and census reasons, 59 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:04,360 it's included as part of Port Angelus. Little Oklahoma surrounded 60 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,439 by the Olympic Mountains and their foothills to the west, 61 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:11,919 south and east to the north as wooded farmland. The 62 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,800 majority of the area roads or dirt roads or old 63 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:19,680 logging trails. It's within a mile of multiple campgrounds and trailheads, 64 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,160 and when I first Google mapped it, I immediately realized 65 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:29,319 its significance. It's where Kimberly lived when she and Keyes 66 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,439 started dating in or around late two thousand and four 67 00:04:33,079 --> 00:04:35,560 until she moved to Alaska in two thousand and six. 68 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:42,160 It's where she was living when Keys got the Bayliner boat. 69 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,680 Staring at the map, I recalled a tip that came 70 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,399 into the FBI from Kim's former landlord on August nineteenth 71 00:04:49,439 --> 00:04:54,439 of twenty thirteen. The tip's summary reads as follows. On 72 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,519 eight nineteen, twenty thirteen, Redacted called the Public Access Line 73 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,079 to report that Israel Keys was a visitor on her 74 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,160 property in Port Angelis, Washington. She reported that on her 75 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:08,079 property she had a rental home and Israel Keys dated 76 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,639 the girl who lived in that rental house from two 77 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,879 thousand and four to two thousand and six. She said 78 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,639 that Redacted rented the house from two thousand and four 79 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,959 to two thousand and six and Keys visited her several 80 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,519 times a month. She said that there is about a 81 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,519 two acre area behind the rental house that leads to 82 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,360 a creek. She said if the FBI wanted to look 83 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,160 on the property to just please contact her first because 84 00:05:32,199 --> 00:05:34,040 there's a tenant living in the rental house. 85 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: Now. 86 00:05:36,319 --> 00:05:40,519 Speaker 1: The FBI's final pre assessment findings said this, The pollsbo 87 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,600 RA notes the caption matter, but at this time does 88 00:05:43,639 --> 00:05:46,560 not see a need to search this property without other 89 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:50,519 indications that keys used the property for nefarious purposes. 90 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 5: He talked once about, ye, some of your friends may 91 00:05:56,199 --> 00:06:01,720 have like unknowingly assisted you in some way. I've never 92 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:03,920 really understood how to take that comment. If it was, 93 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,639 you know, something like you know, we've seen that you're 94 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,839 not always one hundred percent honest on your time sheet, 95 00:06:10,879 --> 00:06:12,839 and if it was something like your boss knowing you 96 00:06:12,879 --> 00:06:16,560 were playing hooky or something like that, Is there anything 97 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,040 that you can tell us about it? 98 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 4: Oh? 99 00:06:24,079 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 3: There have been? Yeah. I mean, I nobody knows. 100 00:06:37,519 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 6: The reasons I would ask people to do things, or 101 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,040 the reasons I would give for why I was doing 102 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,360 them were seldom realistic with what was actually going on. 103 00:06:54,199 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: For a while, this new information sat on the back burner. 104 00:06:59,319 --> 00:07:02,079 We had done of new leads from the new files 105 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,560 and my interviews with Haula, and we could only focus 106 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,399 on so many things at one time. But in that 107 00:07:10,519 --> 00:07:14,959 time I happened to be on the Olympic Peninsula visiting family, 108 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:17,759 and so I made a point to drive out to 109 00:07:17,839 --> 00:07:22,079 Little Oklahoma, among other places, not really knowing what I 110 00:07:22,199 --> 00:07:25,600 was looking for or where I was going. We knew 111 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,079 that Kim had lived in the area, just not exactly where, 112 00:07:28,839 --> 00:07:31,160 and we weren't even sure that the boat house was 113 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:36,120 on the same property that Kim was living in. Little 114 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,560 Oklahoma is rural flat lands. The houses in the area 115 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,120 are mostly on one to five acre plots. There's a 116 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,759 clear neighborhood, but with distance in trees between each house. 117 00:07:48,879 --> 00:07:51,160 There were a lot of yard signs that painted a 118 00:07:51,199 --> 00:07:54,759 fairly clear picture of the vibe there, don't tread on 119 00:07:54,879 --> 00:07:59,519 me private property, shoot first, ask later, and so on. 120 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,279 I saw a few houses with large barns, but no 121 00:08:03,439 --> 00:08:07,480 actual boat houses. It was off the beaten path, but 122 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:10,199 within a twenty minute drive of many of the places 123 00:08:10,199 --> 00:08:14,480 that come up again and again in our investigation. Lake Crescent, 124 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,519 the Alwa Dam, Carlsborg Road and the Drive Through Coffee Stand, 125 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,639 Dungeness Forks Kitchen, Dick Road, Hurricane Coffee, the Burnt Hill 126 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:31,639 Shooting Range, and Hurricane Ridge. So I drove around, took 127 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,440 photos and videos, and then headed back for family gatherings. 128 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,600 But several weeks later the entire research team was in 129 00:08:39,639 --> 00:08:43,240 the Berkshires for the summer studio sessions, and we started 130 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:48,360 looking back into this new information regarding Little Oklahoma. Within 131 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,159 fifteen minutes, we had the exact address, the property's MLS 132 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,399 information and history, Kimberly's address, and the homeowner's phone number. 133 00:08:58,279 --> 00:09:01,000 The property is in a densely wood at the end 134 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,399 of a long driveway far off the street. It backs 135 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,559 up to a creek, and sure enough, there's an old 136 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:13,799 boat house on it among other outbuildings. And luckily for us, 137 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,960 the current homeowners are the same people who owned the 138 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:22,600 property back in two thousand and four, Kimberly's landlords and 139 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:31,200 so I called. Whenever I make these cold calls, I 140 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,799 expect to go straight to voicemail, but the homeowner, who 141 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:40,519 I'll call Guss for now, answered immediately. I introduced myself. Hi, 142 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,759 I'm an investigative reporter looking into a case and came 143 00:09:43,799 --> 00:09:48,600 across your information in my files. He very riley responded, 144 00:09:48,919 --> 00:09:52,559 and what case could that possibly be? We both laughed. 145 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,639 He confirmed that he and his wife owned and still 146 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,399 owned the property that kim lived on from December two 147 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,879 thousand and four till late two thousand and six, and 148 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,600 he confirmed that the property did in fact have a 149 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:09,080 boat house on it, one in which Israel Keys used 150 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,559 to work on his boat at some point. He said 151 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,320 that Keys had access to the boat house, but as 152 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,480 best he could tell, did not have a key to 153 00:10:17,519 --> 00:10:20,919 any other buildings on the property, and that he knew 154 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,519 Keys had been on the property during times while Kim 155 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:30,399 was away working on his boat. He told me that 156 00:10:30,519 --> 00:10:33,159 he and his wife had both met Keys on multiple 157 00:10:33,159 --> 00:10:37,120 occasions and did not like him. His exact words were, 158 00:10:37,399 --> 00:10:40,639 he gave us the creeps and we didn't trust him. 159 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,159 If we knew Keys was going to be on the property, 160 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,519 we would make efforts to be nearby so we could 161 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,320 keep an eye on him. Gus went on to tell 162 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,759 me that he'd called the FBI shortly after Keys was 163 00:10:52,879 --> 00:10:56,080 arrested to tell them about his connection to the property 164 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,399 and give them access to search it, but he never 165 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:06,559 heard back and still hasn't heard back to this very day. 166 00:11:06,759 --> 00:11:11,600 And then he volunteered something ominous that he believed and 167 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,519 still believes that Keys did something nefarious on his property, 168 00:11:17,039 --> 00:11:19,600 that every time they've done work on the property over 169 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,279 the years, they've lived in absolute terror that they might 170 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:30,200 find human remains the team, and I knew of at 171 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,960 least two occasions when Keys worked on the boat, once 172 00:11:34,039 --> 00:11:36,600 after he first got it, and a second time when 173 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,000 he had to replace the carpet. 174 00:11:38,639 --> 00:11:40,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't look like anyone's been in there at 175 00:11:40,879 --> 00:11:41,679 all since I. 176 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 6: I was surprised that how good the pulsary seemed like 177 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:44,559 it's in pretty good condition. 178 00:11:44,639 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 3: Still. Yeah, well it was all brand new. When was it? 179 00:11:49,799 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 6: That whole boat was gutted before I rebuilt it? 180 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: So why didn't you? 181 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 6: So you rebuilt it? 182 00:11:56,279 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 7: Like? It doesn't look like a nineteen eighty two boat 183 00:11:58,159 --> 00:11:58,919 to me, That's why I. 184 00:11:58,919 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 6: Was, well, yeah, the the interior was trashed and I 185 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,840 got it, so it's all new seats and upholstery and 186 00:12:03,879 --> 00:12:05,080 everything that makes sense. 187 00:12:06,279 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: And I think I had to replace some glass and 188 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,200 I don't know, just the carpeting and all that stuff. 189 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 6: I had to replaced the carpeting a couple of times, 190 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:20,919 at least on the back section. 191 00:12:22,279 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 7: Is that the brand new carpeting on the back section 192 00:12:24,159 --> 00:12:26,399 now or is it being something that should be looked at? 193 00:12:26,799 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 6: Well, you might find stuff under the carpeting, but okay, 194 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:32,200 there was new carpet and then I got one on it. 195 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: So got it. 196 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: Okay, But this could mean there were more than two 197 00:12:43,159 --> 00:12:47,200 times that Keys worked on that boat. He mentions working 198 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,480 on the boat after he first bought it, and again 199 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:52,000 when the motor died in June of two thousand and six. 200 00:12:53,039 --> 00:12:55,960 He also mentions having to replace the carpet a couple 201 00:12:56,039 --> 00:13:01,279 of times before tacitly laughing, And we can't say for 202 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,879 sure that the couple of times he replaced the carpet 203 00:13:03,919 --> 00:13:07,039 are included in the repairs made at purchase and after 204 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:12,480 the motor died, or in addition to those repairs. We 205 00:13:12,519 --> 00:13:15,919 started reviewing the timeline for occasions when Kimberly was out 206 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,679 of town and Keys was in the area and potentially 207 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:22,279 using the boat. Times when Keys could have been using 208 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,720 the boat house to make repairs or replace carpet while 209 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:32,080 kim was gone for several days or more. Times when 210 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,720 Keys could have been killing someone, dismembering a body, storing 211 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,960 a body, prepping a body for burial, and so on. 212 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 6: And then what about planning like the Washington State when 213 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,320 you had your boat out Do you remember those highly 214 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:56,759 planned organized Yeah, Washington was a lot easier in a 215 00:13:56,759 --> 00:14:03,279 lot of ways, because once I lived out in Na Bay, 216 00:14:03,399 --> 00:14:07,039 I knew all of Washington pretty well, and except I 217 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:12,679 was so isolated out there. Once you drive past Port Angelis, 218 00:14:12,759 --> 00:14:15,080 it's like here in in the world anyways. So, m 219 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,639 what's that whole park? There's a hole set mountains right there, 220 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,960 right that temperates THEA Bay from Yeah, the Olympic Well, 221 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,080 there's the Olympic Grange Is. 222 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: There's mountains everywhere in there, but you don't really have 223 00:14:29,519 --> 00:14:32,759 to go over any mountain passes or anything to Seattle, 224 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:33,759 but right right, no. 225 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,759 Speaker 6: Not to get but there is that a parkman or oh, yeah, 226 00:14:36,799 --> 00:14:39,200 in this area, Yeah, there's Once. 227 00:14:39,039 --> 00:14:40,799 Speaker 3: I had the boat, it was uh. 228 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,039 Speaker 6: By then, I was pretty much coasting on my job, 229 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,039 so I would take off for long weekends, you know, 230 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,799 and I my accountability was. 231 00:14:50,919 --> 00:14:55,399 Speaker 3: Pretty well at that time. I don't think I had mkay. 232 00:14:55,559 --> 00:14:57,679 Speaker 6: I mean, I knew Kimberly, but you know, it wasn't 233 00:14:57,759 --> 00:14:59,960 like it was just me with you any of it. 234 00:15:02,799 --> 00:15:05,039 So it wasn't part of disappear Grifet day, right, And 235 00:15:05,159 --> 00:15:09,240 she was pretty young man, so she most more often 236 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:09,919 than not she. 237 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,399 Speaker 3: Just stayed in the abbey with babysitters and stuff. 238 00:15:26,519 --> 00:15:30,159 Speaker 1: To refresh your memory. Keyes first checked out the boat 239 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,000 over the weekend of April first, two thousand and five. 240 00:15:34,039 --> 00:15:37,440 Based on the timeline, Keys either left in the early 241 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,919 morning hours of Thursday, March thirty first, or at some 242 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:46,159 point on April first. Now, according to the FBI interviews 243 00:15:46,159 --> 00:15:49,440 with Keys, Keys took Tammy's son James with him on 244 00:15:49,519 --> 00:15:53,399 this trek from Nia Bay to Moses Lake, where James's father, 245 00:15:53,519 --> 00:15:57,759 Joe lived. Keyes said that while dropping James off, Joe 246 00:15:57,799 --> 00:16:00,159 showed him the boat and talked him into buying it, 247 00:16:00,679 --> 00:16:06,759 but according to Joe, that's not exactly what happened. In 248 00:16:06,799 --> 00:16:10,000 an FBI interview, Joe said that James was living with 249 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,600 him full time in Moses Lake in the spring of 250 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,480 two thousand and five, and that Keys actually picked James 251 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,240 up from Moses Lake and brought him back to Nia 252 00:16:20,279 --> 00:16:23,600 Bay to visit with Tammy, which would mean that Keys 253 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,720 was unaccounted for from either Thursday or Friday through Sunday 254 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:31,399 of that weekend. This was the same trip that Keyes 255 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,399 told Joe he was visiting family and Hunter's Washington, a 256 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:41,600 long weekend in eastern Washington. According to Keys, he either 257 00:16:41,639 --> 00:16:43,720 picked up the boat or had it towed to Nia 258 00:16:43,799 --> 00:16:48,440 Bay the following weekend, but according to Joe, Keys picked 259 00:16:48,519 --> 00:16:52,200 up the boat himself from Moses Lake because he had 260 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,759 to return James at the time that he picked up 261 00:16:54,799 --> 00:16:59,159 that boat. So, if we believed Joe over Keys, which 262 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:02,759 I think we should, good Keys was alone and unaccounted 263 00:17:02,799 --> 00:17:05,240 for in the Moses Lake area on the weekend of 264 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:10,519 April first and the following weekend April eighth, at which 265 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:12,839 point he had the boat. 266 00:17:13,319 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 5: What was the boat like when you got as far 267 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,480 as what it looks like, you did a lot of 268 00:17:16,519 --> 00:17:18,640 work on it, But what was Was it seaworthy when 269 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:19,920 you got it? 270 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 3: It would have floated? Yeah? 271 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:28,079 Speaker 6: The engine, now, the engine didn't run very well. 272 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 3: The interior was trashed steering back. I mean it wasn't. No, 273 00:17:33,519 --> 00:17:36,119 it wasn't. 274 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,599 Speaker 6: It had potential, but it wasn't something you would take 275 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:40,599 out for the afternoon. 276 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 4: Okay, So how long have you had it before you 277 00:17:43,319 --> 00:17:44,599 ended up getting it seaworthy? 278 00:17:45,839 --> 00:17:49,599 Speaker 8: It didn't take me very long, eh, I don't remember exactly. 279 00:17:51,759 --> 00:17:53,839 And there was it seems like it took me a 280 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:58,119 while to get the tile or registration or something. 281 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. There was some I have's some issue 282 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:03,960 with that too. 283 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,839 Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, I don't think you registered until six, 284 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,000 and it's in two thousand and five, So okay. 285 00:18:12,279 --> 00:18:14,079 Speaker 3: It seems like I did. Yeah, I took it. 286 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,759 Speaker 6: I'd taken it out a few times before it was registered. 287 00:18:22,079 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: Keys didn't register the boat until April seventeenth of two 288 00:18:25,519 --> 00:18:31,240 thousand and six, over a year after purchasing it, and 289 00:18:31,319 --> 00:18:34,440 in that time we know he used it at least 290 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:39,400 five times, including May twenty seventh, two thousand and five, 291 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,079 June fourth of two thousand and five, June seventeenth of 292 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,079 two thousand and five, July thirtieth of two thousand and five, 293 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,680 and August thirteenth of two thousand and five. It's important 294 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,880 to note that, according to everyone interviewed about the boat, 295 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,319 it's made in voyage was on that July thirtieth trip, 296 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,279 which means the previous three boat trips May twenty seventh, 297 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,240 June fourth, and June seventeen were likely unknown to his 298 00:19:08,319 --> 00:19:14,720 friends and family and thus suspicious to us. Following his 299 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:18,319 registration of the boat, we can confirm that Keyes used 300 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:21,559 it at least four more times. May twenty third, two 301 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:27,680 thousand six, May twenty seventh, two thousand six, June seventeen, 302 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,519 two thousand six, and on June twenty fourth, two thousand six, 303 00:19:33,079 --> 00:19:35,799 when the boat's motor died while he was out with friends. 304 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,519 At least two of these dates correspond to times when 305 00:19:40,599 --> 00:19:43,519 Kimberly was out of town. According to the records that 306 00:19:43,559 --> 00:19:47,759 we have, Kim was gone from August fourth through August 307 00:19:47,839 --> 00:19:51,240 twenty second of two thousand five. According to the FBI timeline, 308 00:19:51,519 --> 00:19:55,039 and according to multiple interviews with Keyes as friends, Kim 309 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,640 was out of town on at minimum June twenty third 310 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,880 and twenty fourth of two thousand and When we review 311 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,920 the two time frames where we know Keys worked on 312 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,400 the boat April ninth through May twenty sixth of two 313 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,480 thousand and five, following his purchase of the boat until 314 00:20:12,519 --> 00:20:16,920 its first documented use, and following June twenty fourth of 315 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,880 two thousand and six, when the motor died, we can 316 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,000 see one common time frame. June twenty third and twenty 317 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:28,480 fourth of two thousand and six, the weekend that Stephen 318 00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:32,799 Michael Mason disappeared while camping at the Dungeness Forks campground. 319 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:40,200 So let's take one more close look at both Mason's 320 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,200 and Keys's activity that weekend. According to an email sent 321 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,359 from Keys to Kimberley on June twenty second, he drove 322 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,599 to Ridgefield, Oregon, a town that doesn't exist, to pick 323 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,559 up an ATV that no one ever saw. Keys took 324 00:20:55,559 --> 00:20:58,279 a long weekend from work in order to pick up 325 00:20:58,319 --> 00:21:03,839 this mysterious atv. According to multiple friends, Kim was not 326 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,160 around on June twenty third or twenty fourth. We don't 327 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,279 know the full extent of her absence at the time, 328 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:13,000 just that she wasn't around on those two specific dates. 329 00:21:14,279 --> 00:21:17,319 At around eight a m. On June twenty third, Mike 330 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,079 Mason's friend Jerry reported that he had a few beers 331 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,519 with Mike at the Dungeness Fork's campground. When asked if 332 00:21:23,519 --> 00:21:26,640 he wanted a ride, Mike told him that some guy 333 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,920 was coming to pick him up at around nine a m. 334 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,799 This was the last reported sighting of Mike. Late that 335 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,160 same evening, Keys a scene for the first time all 336 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,640 weekend at a bonfire at his friend's house in Nea Bay, 337 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,119 and according to one friend, I was quiet and distant 338 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,480 that night with a metal rod of some sort, like 339 00:21:48,519 --> 00:21:51,359 a poker but different, might have even been a metal 340 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,960 coat hanger straightened out. He sat there quietly with the 341 00:21:55,079 --> 00:21:58,079 rod in the fire, pulling it out and staring at 342 00:21:58,079 --> 00:22:01,200 the tip red with heat. When we saw that he 343 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,279 took off his shoes and socks and was trying to 344 00:22:03,279 --> 00:22:07,119 brand himself with it, we jumped up to intervene. We 345 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,799 talked him down out of whatever day's state he was in. 346 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:14,960 The following day, on June twenty fourth, Keys and those 347 00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:18,839 same friends went boating on Lake Ozette. While they were 348 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,920 on the lake, the outboard engine on the boat blew 349 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,519 a rod and they were stranded on the lake. And 350 00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:28,319 according to Keys, he took the boat to a boat 351 00:22:28,319 --> 00:22:30,839 house to work on it the next day and he 352 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,240 never used the boat again. 353 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 7: I know you when we talked to you about it before. 354 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,839 I wasn't in here, but I think it was Jeff 355 00:22:36,839 --> 00:22:39,039 and Steve that were in here. You mentioned that there 356 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,799 might be where there might be something, some blood or 357 00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:44,880 something like that was left. 358 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,839 Speaker 3: And answer that question, yeah, I know had taken it apart. 359 00:22:49,319 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 7: But if you can look at these and if you 360 00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:56,119 can see just maybe looking at him when refresh your 361 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:01,759 memory about where something might be or you know what 362 00:23:01,759 --> 00:23:02,799 what they should look for. 363 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,559 Speaker 3: You're looking that bad of shape, does it that there's 364 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:12,680 oh it's gonna be in that in a well? 365 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 7: Yeah? 366 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 3: Where where's where is the top end of the motor 367 00:23:17,319 --> 00:23:24,559 on this side, anywhere on this side. I guess if you. 368 00:23:24,519 --> 00:23:27,519 Speaker 6: Find anything that's gonna be along these trim pieces, like 369 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,279 underneath them or something. Mkay, so as it got it, 370 00:23:31,839 --> 00:23:34,599 you know, I got on the fiberglass. I cleaned it, 371 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:41,720 but I don't know if I where's the top end 372 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:48,000 of the moment. I it probably got junk. I remember 373 00:23:48,039 --> 00:23:52,400 I took it apart figure out what was wrong with 374 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,079 the motor. And I think by the time I had 375 00:23:56,839 --> 00:23:58,480 figured out what was wrong or that I decided the 376 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,440 whole motor was gonna be scraps. I think, yeah, I 377 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,400 think I just threw a wheel on the parts they 378 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:03,920 took off. 379 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: Stephen Michael Mason disappeared while Keys was unaccounted for. Kim 380 00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:16,839 was out of town and a day before the motor 381 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,359 on his boat broke, the same motor that he told 382 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,880 the FBI to check for blood, the motor that blew 383 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,240 a rod the day after Mason went missing, the day 384 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:30,200 after Keys was seen burning and trying to brand himself 385 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:35,319 with a metal rod. Mason disappeared while camping at Dungeness 386 00:24:35,319 --> 00:24:39,839 Forks Campground, not far from Burnt Hill, the unofficial shooting 387 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,319 range where Keys was known to shoot his guns. There's 388 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,960 a small creek that spans two miles between Burnt Hill 389 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:53,839 and Dungeness Forks Campground, Karaco Creek. I now believe with 390 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,319 as much certainty as I can, that Stephen Michael Mason 391 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,200 was abducted and killed by Israel Keys that as remains 392 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:06,839 were submerged in Lake Ozette. And check out the next 393 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,000 episode of Somewhere in the Pines to see what additional 394 00:25:10,079 --> 00:25:29,400 information Joshua has dug up on Mike Mason's case. Of 395 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,400 all the dates and time frames we've discussed, that June 396 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,359 two thousand and sixth weekend isn't the only one that 397 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:42,359 stands out to me. There are two others. August thirteenth 398 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,119 of two thousand and five, which we'll save for a 399 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,200 future episode, and April ninth through May twenty sixth of 400 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,759 two thousand and five. That period between Keys buying the 401 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:59,480 boat and its first documented voyage, Well, we believe, but 402 00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:02,640 don't I know with certainty that the boat changed hands 403 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,079 from Joe to Keys on April ninth. Its bill of 404 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,519 sale is dated April fifteenth, two thousand and five. The 405 00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:13,480 same day name is forty five Missing person Ray Greecard 406 00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:17,640 disappeared from central Pennsylvania. We don't currently believe that Keys 407 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,039 had anything to do with Greecard's disappearance, but we do 408 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,880 believe that Keyes was searching for someone else at that time. 409 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,519 Exactly a week later, Wendy to Hoop disappeared from Eugene, Oregon. 410 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,720 We spent a lot of time looking into Wendy's case 411 00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:41,400 and always considered her a likely potential victim, but when 412 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,480 I met with Agent Haula last year, he said that 413 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:48,039 it was unlikely that Keyes was involved in Wendy's disappearance. 414 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,039 He and Kimberly were on a romantic weekend in eastern 415 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:57,000 Washington wine tasting from April twenty second, the day Wendy disappeared, 416 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:04,519 until April twenty fourth, to several emails they found. He 417 00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:07,960 also noted that Keys made purchases in Port Angelis on 418 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,839 the twenty second, and additional purchases place him in Kingston Outlook, 419 00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:16,160 Zillah and Prosser, Washington on the rest of that weekend. 420 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,640 When he told me all of this, I do what 421 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,160 I usually do when a case is ruled out. I 422 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,160 pull it off my shelves and put it in a 423 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:31,039 cabinet out of sight. No longer a distraction, but for 424 00:27:31,079 --> 00:27:35,960 some reason it didn't feel right and Tooks agreed, so 425 00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:38,400 we decided to pull the binder out of the cabinet 426 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,039 and put it back on the shelves, because unlikely, after all, 427 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:49,400 does not mean impossible, especially when it comes to Israel Keys. 428 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,119 As I was researching for this episode, going over dates 429 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,079 that Keys had the boat and Kimberly was gone, I 430 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,880 noticed something something now that seems so obvious. Keyes and 431 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,400 Kimberly didn't leave for that weekend getaway on the twenty second. 432 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,839 They left on the twenty third. There is a Kingston 433 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,839 to Edmunds ferry transaction for eight am on April twenty third, 434 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,200 the route someone would take to travel from the Peninsula 435 00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:24,400 to eastern Washington, and the other transactions Haula mentioned also 436 00:28:24,519 --> 00:28:27,720 indicated that Keyes was still on the peninsula until the 437 00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:32,319 morning of the twenty third. His Kingston transactions, none of 438 00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:35,960 them were on the twenty second. We don't know what 439 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,359 time the Port Angelus transactions occurred on the twenty second, 440 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,319 but what I do know is that Eugene, Oregon is 441 00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:47,359 only a six hour drive from Port Angelus, and Wendy 442 00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:53,440 de who disappeared between seven and seven forty five am, 443 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,200 meaning Keys could have been back in Port Angelus by 444 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:03,880 one pm, where he'd have eighteen hours to himself before 445 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,359 leaving on a vacation with Kim, as he did with 446 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,559 Samantha Konig. He had also clearly told his employers that 447 00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:23,519 he'd be gone on the twenty second. Keyes and Kim 448 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,400 returned from wine tasting on the night of the twenty fourth, 449 00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:31,000 and several days later, on the twenty eighth, the Hoop's purse, 450 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,240 with her wallet missing, was dropped off at a buy 451 00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:36,519 mart in Eugene by a man who said he found 452 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:41,319 it while walking his dog. On May second, Wendy's car 453 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,400 was found abandoned along a wooded highway not far from 454 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,839 where her purse was found. It was the first reported 455 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:53,200 sighting of it. That same evening, for reasons unclear, Keyes 456 00:29:53,279 --> 00:30:01,759 was on a ferry from Edmunds to Kingston. It gets 457 00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:06,640 harder and harder to negotiate Keys's propensity and capability for love. 458 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:14,680 We hear moments of consideration, shame, pain, and they often 459 00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:19,559 sound and look like love. But then we think of 460 00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:21,960 all the times he used his friends and family to 461 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:28,480 get away with murder, hiding guns, family vacations, boat trips, 462 00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:32,519 road trips, and so on. We're left wondering what love 463 00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:38,359 could be to someone like Israel Keys. Did he love 464 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,039 his daughter or did he use his daughter? Did he 465 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,960 love Kim or did he use Kim? Is it somewhere 466 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:54,200 in between or is it both? And we wonder, and 467 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,920 then we have the privilege of moving on to something else, 468 00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:01,359 the privilege of moving back back into our own lives. 469 00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:04,759 How lucky are we? 470 00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 9: I think I know you well at least Dan think. 471 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,720 Do a person strange. 472 00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 3: Sleeping in my bed? 473 00:31:58,839 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 10: I know who? 474 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: This episode was written, researched, edited and produced by Me 475 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,559 Your Host Josh Hallmark, with additional research by Jordan Taylor, 476 00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:39,000 Michelle Tooker, and Shane o'blensky. This episode featured sa Ted Halla, 477 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,119 and it was made possible by the following Patreon producers. 478 00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:45,720 Amy Basel, Kendall, c Heather Horton, Wheedon, Sherry d Dale Axton, 479 00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:49,519 Stephanie Taylor, Lydia Rodarte, Quayle, Shelley, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, 480 00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:54,079 Christina Sosn, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Gillian Natalelna Holiday, Tuesday Woodworth, 481 00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:58,160 is Zach Egnatowitz, Warren, Kathleen Studor, An Nattel, Casey Jensen, Richardson, 482 00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:02,440 sc Benjamin Choppafon, To, Nicole Ashfish, Becky C. Pink, Jen 483 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:06,039 j Corey Deatley, Robin Carol, Lisa, Jordan M, Kate Lusier, 484 00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:09,920 John Comery, Kathy Nation, Carried Jordan T, Bethany Heights, Lauren Fairy, 485 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,400 Emily Payne, Tory Meyer, Sabrina Abbott, Meghan Inman, Meghan Dagell, 486 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,400 Earl Jurr, Ashley Coopen, Brina Smith, Christine Evans, Kristen Hawthorne, 487 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,200 Michael Randall, and Dwayne C. Thank you to True Crime 488 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,559 Bullshit's newest Patreon supporters, Jody S, Bill, Ashley, k CCS, 489 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:28,079 Alicia j Shan, Angela W Jeff Diana, d Emma M, 490 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,839 Barbara l ambercy Nia, Jennifer Stacy, Stephanie T, and Adrian M. 491 00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:36,119 To support the investigation, go to Patreon dot com, slash 492 00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:40,480 Studio Both and. This episode included music by Radical Face, 493 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:48,920 Odyssey and Nine Moons with featured music by Hannah Cohen. 494 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,319 Speaker 10: Love me well. 495 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 9: The least I think you do Sometimes I just can 496 00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:21,920 What's a bond down with you? 497 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,079 Speaker 10: A love. 498 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 4: That's true MESSI. 499 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 10: Feel l see. 500 00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 4: The mistake. 501 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:59,199 Speaker 10: Bad. We rid a long world. 502 00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:11,159 Speaker 4: Well why why don't know. 503 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 10: They didn't know you? 504 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:51,559 Speaker 4: So change change the change the change. They didn't know you. 505 00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:53,599 Speaker 7: So much. 506 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 10: Oh change she. 507 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:05,679 Speaker 4: Change the change. Exchanged that they didn't know you. So 508 00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:13,119 change to change, change 509 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 3: To