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am very excited to welcome an og milf to the

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podcast today, not to mention an avid animal lover who's

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not afraid to speak her mind. This veterinary technician turned

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adult star disappeared from the industry in twenty fifteen to

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start a family. However, she is back in the new

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landscape of the only fans and content creation world while

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working through veterinary school and juggling parenthood. Welcome the one

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and only Capri Cavani. Hello, Hello, Hello, how are you?

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Oh well, thank you, I'm good. So welcome back. Thank

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the porn world. Yes, how long have you been back?

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Twenty twenty? Okay, so years five years. Yeah, well I.

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Speaker 1: Did only fans on twenty twenty, but I didn't actually

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come back to porn porn until twenty three. Okay, Okay,

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it took me a few years to get back at it, Yeah,

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to get yes, yeah, to actually make that jump back in.

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to get back into all of that,

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like while you left, while you came back. But you know,

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generally I like to start at the beginning. Yes, So

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let's talk about, you know, your love for animals, because

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I know that you know, that is something that actually

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a lot of adult stars have like a great affinity

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for animals, and like do I know a lot of

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adult stars that do like rescue and work with animals.

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I also know a lot of adult stars that do

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like nursing, And I think there's a lot to be

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said about like that nurturing side of people and then

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also like nurturing boners. I don't know, but like there

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is a there is a carrying intimacy to like both things, right,

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there is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like a lot of adult stars are

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so into animals, animal rescue. I know tons of chicks

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are like, I give so much money to all these rescues,

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and maybe it's just loving being able to love.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't know. I think people forget about that.

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You know. People often see porn as like this dirty,

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you know, skeezy thing, But and it's root. It's about love, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's about intimacy and love and feeling good. Yeah, so

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that's at the end of the day, that's really what matters,

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is feeling good.

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Speaker 2: I agree. So do you remember when you first knew

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that you wanted to like work with animals, Like when

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how long have your have animals been like a big

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part of your life?

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Speaker 1: Since I was a little girl.

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Speaker 2: So I was child.

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Speaker 1: I got my first dog when I was nine, and

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I disobeyed my mother and I took said dog on

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a walk by myself when I wasn't supposed to fit.

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I already said that okay, and the dog got attacked

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by another dog. It was very traumatic. Oh no, I

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was in deep shit with my mom. We were dirt

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broke and she couldn't afford surgery to fix the dog,

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and I was really upset about it because this was

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my dog.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I knew that I wanted to make a difference.

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I knew I wanted to help people who were broke

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and genuinely loved their animals, but I had a hard

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time paying when should hit the fan?

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Speaker 2: Yeah much so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of made up my mind then. And

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then along the way, I just veard to the left

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a little bit.

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Speaker 2: You went to the to the make money angle I

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did first year. Well, you wanted to help the animals,

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but then you realize it's actually very expensive to help

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the animals, and so you went and the school down. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: When I was younger, I was not going to commit

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to that type of school.

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Speaker 2: There was no way. There was no way. So you

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wanted to be I feel like every kid wants to

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be a vet growing up because like all kids love

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animals and it sounds like such a cool like job.

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Did you want to be a vet from that moment

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or was it earlier?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so from when I was nine. That's when I

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realized what I wanted to do. But then once I

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got into high school and realized I wasn't interested in school,

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things were like I changed my mind. But so once

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I graduated high school, I was trying to figure out

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what to do. I was working as like a reception

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I worked in offices for like car dealerships and water companies,

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random things. And I actually went to school to become

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a veterin and technician instead because that was easier define

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a reachable goal.

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Speaker 2: I mean veterinary school. You used to go to VET school.

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I think longer than it is to be a doctor, right,

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I don't know. I'm pretty sure it's like more schooling.

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Speaker 1: It's well, I don't know how much a doctor is.

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four years for VET school. Right, I don't know what

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med school is.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it depends on like what specific route

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you take, right, Like you get your general like you

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get a general medical degree, and then like obviously if

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you want to specialize in neuroscience, it's like a whole difference,

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right thing.

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Speaker 1: But right, it's a lot, as I'm learning now, it's

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a lot. But back then I was not interested in

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committing to that whatsoever. I wanted to be my age.

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I wanted to party. Yeah, I get it, I did.

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Speaker 2: I get it. You know, it's funny. I also wanted

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to be a VET when I was a kid, A

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really big surprise. And I'm somebody who's really hard on

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themselves about like achieving things, and so I had this

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idea that if I was going to be a VET,

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I had to start studying really early, so around the

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age of I would say, more like maybe eleven ish.

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My mom had this whole like veterinary series handbook. Like

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it was a whole like series, right, I don't know,

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there's like five books or something, and I would force

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myself to read like a chapter or half to chapter

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like every day because if I didn't do that, then

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I would never be a VET. Now, like I was

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like eleven, like that that stuff is unreadable now at

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forty seven, you know what I mean. And it's like

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so dense and it's literally meant for doctors. But I

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remember being like, you have to read this otherwise you'll

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never be a VET, and like I couldn't understand it.

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I couldn't digest it. And I remember being so angry

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at myself for not being able to understand it, and

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like beating myself up about not understanding the veterinary Handbook

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at like the knowledge. But yeah, that's funny. And then

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I also realized that maybe that was not the path

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for me, so I get that. Yeah, so okay, so

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you're now you recognize, okay, veterinary technician much easier.

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Speaker 1: Did that round the hospitals. I was broke, but I

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loved what I did, Like I loved.

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Speaker 2: Working in the hospital. Loved it.

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Speaker 1: There was never a day that I said I hate

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my job.

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Speaker 2: Really, yes, what did you love about it? Because I

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feel like for me, there would be a lot. There

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must have been a lot of really hard moments.

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Speaker 1: Of course, of course, but it's worth it. Yeah, because yeah,

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when you get to help people, when you get to

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help pets. My biggest what I get off on is

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helping people help their pets. So when I can talk

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to an owner and I can explain things, and I

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know that that information that I tell them is going

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to better this animal's life, I love that. Like, man, Yeah,

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they're innocent little creatures, and there's so many people that

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just don't know they love animals, but they're not like

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a super geek about it, so they don't really know

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what they're supposed to be doing. So yeah, in the hospital,

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it was great. It was sad, of course it was.

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There was some devastating moments. Yeah, but I think it

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taught me, man, It taught me a lot, and it

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taught me empathy. It taught me how to let go

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of things because you have to know when it's the

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time to let go. And that's again I dealt with

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all my clients. I would help a lot of them.

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So one of the most common questions I was asked

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is when is it time for you know what?

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Speaker 2: I feel like every single pet owner is that question.

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Speaker 1: And legally, like we're not allowed to tell them right

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now is the time? But I I would help educate

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people to make the best choices and ultimately the animal

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got the benefit of that.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, how do you like what would be? How

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do you know? Yeah, how do you know?

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Speaker 1: When there's no quality of life? So when they're not

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eating on their own, when they can't get up, that's

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when that's it. If there's no pep in their step,

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if there's if you don't get even a glimmer of

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a tailwag you But if they don't want to eat,

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because food to animals is everything, right, If they're not eating, yeah,

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then you know, but they're if they're let's say, if

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they're not eating but they're still really happy, well then

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there's probably just something wrong in medical attention, right right, Yeah,

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quality of life, that's it, that's all it is. Some

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people hold on for dear life and the animal ends

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up suffering.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the problem I remember like having because you know,

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I've had to put them all down. I mean, I

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think that that's the way that most you know, if

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they live a long life, that's how their life ends.

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she was the best dog in the world. And I remember,

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like towards the end of her life, like I knew

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that the day was coming, and every morning I woke

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up like hoping she was dead, honestly because I didn't

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want to have to make that decision because I knew that,

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like like and I was like, please, just like can

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this is the day. And it was awful. I mean,

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you know, all the animals that I've had to put

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down has been terrible. But yeah, I know it's definitely

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and I always think how ironic it is that we

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get to alleviate animals suffering, but we don't get to

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do that with humans. They do in Canada. I know,

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like I don't know. I'm a strong believer in euthanasia,

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and I know that there's a lot of nuances around it,

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and I know it's a very complicated situation because it

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Speaker 1: Be abused the right situation. But in the right situation,

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the old couple who they spent their whole lives together, Okay,

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they were like in like their nineties or something. It

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was just in Germany, and they want us to die together,

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and so they did, and.

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Speaker 2: It was beautiful, like they don't have a whole one. Yes,

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it was so cute.

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Speaker 1: Like I can't say death isn't cute, right, But what

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I'm saying is that, right, just the fact that they

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had this option to die together. They said their whole

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lives they were together, and they wanted to end it

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this way. And the government said.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm assuming one of them was like terminally

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ill and then the other one was not. I guess

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I guess it's just old.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, right, Yeah, But if someone wants to do that,

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Speaker 2: Right? And that's where like I think the reb lies, Right,

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how do you determine who has a mental health issue

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and who is just ready to go? Yeah? You know.

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you know, like the government will force you to keep

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like somebody alive and they're just like this, they're just existing, right,

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and they're not like there is no quality of life,

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and and you have to assign like an advanced directive

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to even you know, get to allow for your children

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to like make the decision to like let you go.

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we had to make the decision to take him off

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life support. Oh wow, which is one hundred percent what

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he would have wanted. I mean, he was he had

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Parkinson's and he was starting to like decline like a lot.

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he could have. He fell and he hit his head

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and he ended up having a brain bleed and he

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went to a koma. Oh wow, brain dead, And so

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we let him go. It's okay, thank you, But I remember,

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you know, when he was really starting to become like

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immobile and it was really starting and he did not

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want to live like that, right, Like he and he

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remember he turned to me and he goes, if I

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get to a place where it's really bad and I

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want to go, He's like, you need to be the

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one to take care of it. And I was like,

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that's not bad, Like you know what I mean. But

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he didn't want to be trapped in that body.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Living here in the in the States, he doesn't have

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that option, right, he doesn't get to make that decision

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when like he's decided that he's had enough and he's

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suffering and he's just trapped in a body that can't

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serve him. Hmmm. So then to change that here, of

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course they should. Yeah. So then like he's sort of

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jokingly but sort of not like puts it on me,

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like I'm going to trust you to take me out? No,

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what my dad?

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Speaker 3: Like, dad, No, oh my god. Right, that's intense. I know,

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thankfully that didn't. I don't found that way, but I

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mean I sort of like understand.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I wouldn't want to live that way. I wouldn't

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want to be like put on my missile. Yeah, no,

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thank you. Yeah, it's hard enough as it is, let

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alone in that condition, like I know, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And the way that you know, I mean, you know,

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human beings were not meant to live as long as

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we do, right, I mean, like our bodies give up

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after a time, and we've had wonderful medical advances where

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we can live a long, high quality level of life

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for a long period of time, and that's fantastic. But

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like once you're done, like you're done. But like you know,

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we just keep people like alive on machines or like

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just alive and they don't know where they are, and

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they're just like a vegetable and they're just like spoon

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feeding them. I mean, like what the what the fuck?

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Is that crazy?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: You're just like a breathing lump of flesh. Anyways, Welcome

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to the porn podcast where we talk about death a lot.

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I talk about death a lot on this podcast. It's okay,

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it's a part of life. I talk about death a lot.

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I don't know why the last few episodes especially, I'm

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just very heavy. Sorry. Maybe I should just do a

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separate podcast called Holly is Itsess with Death? Would you

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watch that? Probably?

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Speaker 1: Not.

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Speaker 2: I think they might. Yeah, yeah, maybe we should talk

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about dicks. I don't know, back to dicks. Should we

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get back to to dicks? Okay, we're worried before we

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started going up the bed.

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Speaker 1: School well no, no, the bet tech thing, and then it

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broke Vettech ended up in worn because I've gotten porn

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because I want to sleep girls.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's go. Let's go back to that very

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sexy part moment in your life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was dating this here's actually how it went. Okay,

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so I'm dating this guy. This guy comes on the

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animal hospital picks me up.

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Speaker 2: Damn it.

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Speaker 1: This always happened the worst ones. They win me over

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with these fucking pitble puppies.

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Speaker 2: Ah, and so he takes me a hit bull, no

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pick up gode he tried.

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Speaker 1: He came in once before and tried to hit on

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me and I shut him down. And then he came

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in with the puppies.

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Speaker 2: And then he's like, this is what I need. I

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need a pit bull puppy and then I can get her.

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And then he got me. Oh with my fucking puppy

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that he gave away.

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Speaker 1: Was I started dating him? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, mm hmmm mm hmmm mm hmm. Somebody should start

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a service where they just like rent out puppies to

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like desperate, lonely men and they can use him to

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pick up on chicks. Oh my god, they really should,

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They really should, so that everybody.

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Speaker 1: We go on our first date, he takes me to

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a nude beach. I had never been. I was a

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total prude, total prude. We had sex with one person.

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Speaker 2: Did you know he was taking you to no beach?

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Speaker 1: No, he took me to this place called wreck Beach

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in Vancouver, and I'm like, what the fuck. And then

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he takes me back to his apartment and he's like,

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let me make you a sandwich. I'm like, okay, parents

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are there. They live in his apartment.

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Speaker 2: You get naked at the beach?

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Speaker 1: No, no, he just took you to a nude beech. Yeah.

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We sat there, smoked a joint and left.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: And then he's like, hey, let's go, I'll make you

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lunch and I'm like okay. So he makes me this

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like chicken and pickle sandwich.

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Speaker 2: Sounds kind of delicious. It was still like a Persian thing.

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It was really good. It was that sounds really good.

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It was like pickles a lot.

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Speaker 1: And his parents are there, and his parents lived with him,

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and I'm like, okay, this is cool. And then he's like,

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let me show you my ex girlfriend. And I'm like,

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who the fuck is your ex girlfriend? And why are

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you showing me your ex girlfriend? Oh she's a porn star.

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What the fuck her name was? Valerie Shaw? Okay, I

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don't know, I like just from way back in the day.

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So I was like, huh, interesting, and I got jealous,

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Like automatically, I got jealous, and it made me like,

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look at the psychology behind us. It made me more

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interested in him that he had this chick like, I

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don't know, man, psychology is so interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, he got me, and I was like, hm,

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I can be a model too. So I started doing

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photo shoots. I ended up I was just doing like

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lingerie and swimsuit work. I ended up doing catalogs. This

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is back in the what was the website called Model Mayhem?

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Speaker 2: Remember that? Oh yeah, I do remember it, and I

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believe it still exists really yeah.

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Speaker 1: And there was one more. There was Model Mayhem and

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another one. I forget what the other one was called.

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But I ended up making a whole portfolio. I started

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getting modeling jobs. And then a guy named Waldy Martin's

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who was a photographer for Playboy. He called and was like,

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can I shoot you for Playboy? And I was like, okay,

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I'll take my clothes off the fuck and that led

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to like, well, then he was like I want to

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fuck you and another girl, and I was like, what

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not the photographer, your boy No, the boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: And he's like yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you just want to do this because you

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grew with a porn start before.

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Speaker 2: And he's like, well, it's really hot. So I'm like, okay,

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let's do it. So we did it.

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Speaker 1: And I had the best fucking time in my life

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with this other girl. She was beautiful, she was an escort,

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so we hire.

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Speaker 2: He let me go. He got a professional Yes, I mean.

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Speaker 1: He yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: We're still friends. It's you and the escort. No, are

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you the guy? Are you the guy?

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Speaker 1: I make him shoot with me for only fans?

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Speaker 2: Okay? I know that pickle sandwich went far. It really

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did it really really did.

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Speaker 1: So wow, my whole story and now I'm getting lost

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pit bull puppy puppy sandwich.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all of that. There you go, guys, there's the

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playbook and then.

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Speaker 1: We split up and I was like, no, well, I

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also I wanted to sleep with more girls, and I would.

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Speaker 2: You have any inkling at all that you liked girls

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before this, before I did three way with him? No,

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I had no idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like wow, wow, like she was beautiful.

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I had a really good time. So then I started

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sleeping with other girls, but they weren't like the kind

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of girls that I was really attracted to.

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Speaker 2: I was just fucking them just to fuck them.

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Speaker 1: And what kind of girl are you really attracted to?

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Very feminine, very very feminine girls. Okay, and they're just

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I was going to this club called Celebrities, was gay bar.

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I was trying to find myself. It wasn't working.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't working. And yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well what if I did porn because

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I'll get paid and I'll get the hot girls. It's

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a win win.

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Speaker 2: Wow. So that's what I did. Interesting, Yes, So it

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was the women that brought you in.

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Speaker 1: It was I initially only came to do girl girl,

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and when I sat down with Derek Hay, he said,

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you're not good enough to only.

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Speaker 2: Do a girl girl. There's no working girl girl money.

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Speaker 1: How are you going to afford everything out here? You

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have to do boy girl? And I was like, it

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sounds like Derek right, yeah, and that was it.

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Speaker 2: Derek k. But by the way, Is was the owner

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of one of like the top adult industry agencies called

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Eli Direct Models. Just for those of you who don't know. Yeah,

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so that was it.

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Speaker 1: He had me on my first shoot with Vivid with Marcos.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, is zip porn life? Did you ever

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see his music video?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Oh girl, but he is just I gotta send it

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to you after you've never seen Marco Bunderris's music video

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of The Porn Life. Nobody talks about porn life a lot.

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Wait what he did a music video called the porn Life.

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It's what he's saying. A song. He made a song

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and he did a music video called The Porn Life.

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I swear to god it's the foot I love you, Marco.

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It's the funniest thing.

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Speaker 1: So I could totally see him doing something.

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Speaker 2: Margot was great, but like he was a solid performer, great,

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a great.

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Speaker 1: Guy that white smile.

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Speaker 2: Love working with him, but really over the top impressions

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in pictures. I had to usually be like Margot Kenya

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just hide your head behind her or just done it

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down a little bit, because all of his expressions were

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like they were like the So it was a little

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bit much. Oh that's great. I love all these memories.

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But Marko and Dere's was he was. He was a solid.

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I worked with him a lot. He was good. Oh

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my god.

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Speaker 1: All the guys in the beginning, so many of them

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that just aren't even like Billy Glide and he was

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my first Naughty America scene, no second Naughty America sane.

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Speaker 2: But anyways, who is still around back then? That was

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around back then? Tommy again, Yep, he's still around.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about him earlier. Actually, yeah, he's great.

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Speaker 2: Who Derek Pearce, Derek Pearce, Yes, Karen Well, Kiaren is mean?

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Yes right yeah, kering Lee, he's like herds. He won't

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go away. I love you, karens Yes.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: Johnny sins is like a legend now, he is literally

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a meme, right right, I mean, it's insane. Who else

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I don't know?

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Speaker 1: Ryan hasn't the Instagram is the state of Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Ryan McLain, Yes, okay, around back then too. I don't know.

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I feel like he's not.

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Speaker 1: But the guys who are on like a heavy rotation

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back then they're not around anymore. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's like people talk a lot about

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how the industry is like hard on women, it's hard

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on men, yes, Like it really is because that equipment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's harder for them too. I feel like because

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00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:51,759
you know, during the scene, like if a girl is

475
00:22:51,839 --> 00:22:54,240
not being very nice or something, and he still has

476
00:22:54,279 --> 00:22:59,039
to perform, Like we can always perform whether we're mentally

477
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,559
checked in, yeah, whatever, but if he's not, you know,

478
00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:04,799
the whole he like it all lays on him.

479
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know. It's a lot of pressure. It

480
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,119
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507
00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:47,359
so I want to get into a little bit more

508
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,400
detail about your first scene of course with Marcolm Manderas.

509
00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:51,839
Do you remember what company it was?

510
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: For Vivid. Okaya, oh right.

511
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 2: You said that, yes, okay, So tell me, like, walk

512
00:24:57,279 --> 00:24:59,960
me through that day. What was your thoughts walking on set?

513
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,279
Speaker 1: So I showed up and I had my big ass

514
00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:05,759
suitcase and got dropped off by the driver and I.

515
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,839
Speaker 2: Was like, yeah, what the fuck?

516
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: And they're like, okay, pull out your wardrobe and I'm

517
00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:14,240
picking up my wardrobe and he walks in and I

518
00:25:14,319 --> 00:25:16,880
nearly had a heart attack because he's so big. I'm

519
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,599
so little, so short, he's very tall. He's very tall,

520
00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:24,400
very broad shortly, he's a man like whoa and that

521
00:25:24,839 --> 00:25:27,480
white smile and just he was just so big. And

522
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:29,200
then he got naked and I was like, oh, my

523
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:30,880
fucking god, are you kidding me?

524
00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 2: I can't do that. Like his dick was so big

525
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:33,960
that I.

526
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,079
Speaker 1: Had never experienced anything like that before prior to porn.

527
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,799
Speaker 2: I think one two maybe.

528
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: I saw up with three people.

529
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:41,799
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

530
00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:45,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I hadn't seen a lot of penises, and

531
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,480
I was very scared. I was super scared. But he

532
00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:52,759
was really nice. Yeah, and he was as gentle as

533
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:57,440
it could have been, So it went well. I remember

534
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,920
being really sweaty, I remember being very hot, and yeah,

535
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,599
that's pretty much.

536
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,279
Speaker 2: I remember being really sweaty. Was it during the summer. Yeah,

537
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,839
and they probably turned off the air conditioning, probably when

538
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,960
you're running the act, because they never that's the one thing.

539
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,759
All right, we're rolling down, turn off the air and

540
00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:17,960
everyone's like fuck. Yeah, I remember those days. Yeah, I

541
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,039
was worse. Oh my god.

542
00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was very afraid of the penis size.

543
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: And was it painful? Were you able to acclimate after

544
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:28,359
a while?

545
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: You know, I don't remember exactly, so that tells me

546
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,440
it wasn't that painful, because.

547
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 2: If it was, you would remember remember. Yeah. So how

548
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,799
did you feel after that? Happy? Good? Yeah?

549
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you felt like, okay, that wasn't as bad. Yeah,

550
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,599
it's like, okay, that's cool, I can do this. I

551
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,680
had no problems having sex in front of people, which

552
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,319
is interesting.

553
00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you think that is?

554
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 1: I have no idea.

555
00:26:54,599 --> 00:26:56,519
Speaker 4: Have you always kind of been like an exhibitionist but

556
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,079
not at all interesting? I know there's a whole other side.

557
00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:02,480
There was stuff that I wanted to try, but I

558
00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:04,559
was just too scared. I was too much of a prude.

559
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:05,200
I was afraid.

560
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,039
Speaker 1: I was afraid I was going to get hurt or

561
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:09,799
something if I put myself in a bad situation, So

562
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,519
porn was really it was really good for me because

563
00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:14,079
I got to really learn who I am in a

564
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,440
controlled and safe environment where everyone's tested. Like, man, it's

565
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,680
got such a bad rep and it really shouldn't in

566
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,319
my opinion.

567
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: No, I mean, you're literally like the hundredth person I've

568
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:26,960
heard say those exact things, Like it was a safe

569
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,039
space for me to try out all of these different

570
00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:31,720
things that I wanted to try because I want to

571
00:27:31,759 --> 00:27:35,079
set with a bunch of professional people, like you know,

572
00:27:35,319 --> 00:27:40,319
there's accountability because I'm surrounded by others. I'm working with

573
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,599
professionals like you know, for the most part, if you're

574
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,319
working with reputable companies, yeah, they have your best interests

575
00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:51,279
in mind, and you know, you're able to state your

576
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:54,559
boundaries before the scene starts, and if something is too

577
00:27:54,599 --> 00:27:57,599
much for you or painful, you can stop things and yeah,

578
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:57,920
you know.

579
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to worry about you know.

580
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,319
Speaker 2: Things been taken too far and you being powerless to

581
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:08,640
stop it. Yeah. Yeah, Now, looking back, do you think

582
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,359
that there is anything that you would have done differently

583
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:15,039
knowing what you know now in the beginning of your career.

584
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:22,839
Speaker 1: Yes, I wouldn't have been so dodgy with whether I

585
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,720
was doing boy girl, girl girl, Like I started with

586
00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:28,279
boy girl, and then I would go on periods where

587
00:28:28,279 --> 00:28:30,200
I was only doing girl girl, and it was always

588
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:32,279
why was it because of a man?

589
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,799
Speaker 2: Really? Yeah? Who knew?

590
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,839
Speaker 1: So they have cute puppies too. This one had no puppies.

591
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,519
Actually he was just a really good in bed.

592
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: Okay, that was it.

593
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: He won me with the dick, yeah, but he kept me.

594
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

595
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:50,839
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. I was young and

596
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:51,319
I was.

597
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.

598
00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:56,559
Speaker 1: My older self looks at my younger self and it's like,

599
00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:57,319
what were you doing?

600
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: But you know what am I going to do?

601
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: Now? Yeah? Yeah, hindsight's twenty twenty. It is so if

602
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,160
I wish I had never met him, because then maybe

603
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,799
I would have stayed just on track and not flipped

604
00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:14,519
and flop and like some directors joke about it, like

605
00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:15,799
are you doing boy girl this month?

606
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,039
Speaker 2: Now? Is there any advice that you would give new

607
00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:24,680
talent looking to start out in the adult industry just

608
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,599
in general, not necessarily like things you wish you'd done differently,

609
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,480
but like now knowing what you know, if someone was

610
00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:31,799
to come to you and say I want to get

611
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:33,839
into porn, Like, what are some things that you would

612
00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:36,480
tell them that they should really keep in mind or

613
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,000
look out for.

614
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: I would definitely say to stick to the boundaries, to

615
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,759
write the boundaries down and stick to them. Yeah, and

616
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,680
don't break them for money. Don't break them because somebody

617
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,799
makes you feel guilty or I really want you to

618
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:49,200
do this scene.

619
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: Would be so good to see you do an X,

620
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,880
Y and Z. That's cool. But it lives on the

621
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:55,519
internet forever.

622
00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: That's rights. I've learned that it lives on the internet forever.

623
00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:02,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm assuming that you've done scenes that you've

624
00:30:02,359 --> 00:30:03,200
probably regretted.

625
00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:09,279
Speaker 1: Yep, Yeah, I sure do. There's a couple out there

626
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:13,319
that I wish I had not done. Yeah, and what

627
00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:14,720
am I gonna do now? Right?

628
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: Probably not mention what they are on this podcast so

629
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,559
people don't go with them.

630
00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:22,759
Speaker 1: They'll probably already have an idea. Like there were still

631
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:26,400
good times. It's not that I ever had like bad experience.

632
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,480
I never had a bad experience on set. Oh that's

633
00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:32,119
really good. Yes, I have no bad stories that I

634
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:32,680
could do.

635
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,319
Speaker 2: You just feel like it just didn't align with your

636
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:39,160
brand seem that you did Yeah, Yeah, that makes sense.

637
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: I did it more because Robert was like.

638
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: Come on, will you do this please? Yeah? I was like,

639
00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:49,319
fuck Robert at Ellie Direct. Yeah yeah, fine, Now you

640
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:52,720
I'm assuming are no longer a vet tech at this.

641
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: Point, No, so stop doing that.

642
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: Gotten the porn.

643
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: I stopped working with animals altogether, and then I that

644
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:02,680
I missed so much, so I started volunteering in a

645
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,880
shelter and that led to me. The short of the

646
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,160
lung is the shelter led to me going to dog

647
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,440
grooming school, which led to me opening up a dog

648
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,319
grooming company. And when I disappeared, that's how I made

649
00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:16,400
my income as a full time dog groomer.

650
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, I know. So tell me about leaving

651
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,960
the industry, like, why was that? How was that? I

652
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:27,759
did miss it?

653
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,519
Speaker 1: But I was in love, so I didn't miss it

654
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:36,720
that much at the time. Yeah, I knew that I

655
00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:41,160
needed to figure something else out because being in the

656
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,519
industry just doing that wasn't filling my emotional cup. It

657
00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:49,720
was filling my financial cup. But I almost felt I

658
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,720
felt like I wouldn't allow myself to be in a

659
00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:54,480
relationship because I was having sex with other people and

660
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,160
I do appreciate monogamy. I myself wouldn't want to be

661
00:31:58,359 --> 00:32:02,200
in whatever the word is for multi people relationship. Okay,

662
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:07,440
so I'm not I'm not like that now. But I

663
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:10,960
wasn't trying to go broke or I didn't want to

664
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,480
just be a webcam girl. I didn't want to just

665
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,839
do solos. And whether I'm fucking a girl or a guy,

666
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,119
to me, it doesn't make the same or I mean,

667
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:17,960
it doesn't make a difference because I'm into both of them.

668
00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:21,000
So yeah, and I didn't want to be like, oh,

669
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:23,119
I'm gonna go after work and go sleep with somebody

670
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:28,000
else and you're just gonna chill at home like without

671
00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:28,920
you going to do it.

672
00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: No, it didn't. It didn't work for me.

673
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, so I kind of phased out of shooting.

674
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:40,160
And then what happened. I phased out of shooting a

675
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,880
little bit. I was shooting every so often. Oh, and

676
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,000
then I got attacked.

677
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,119
Speaker 2: By a dog.

678
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:46,839
Speaker 1: That's what happened. Oh, I got mauled by this dog

679
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,559
in the shelter. Yeah, and I was on crutches.

680
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,599
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, oh my god. And I met him.

681
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: I met this guy and he how sorry, can we

682
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:04,039
just talk about real quick, what like, where did he

683
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,279
where did he attack? He latched on I was wearing

684
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:08,160
Oh my god, I think I was wearing my ugs

685
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,599
and I was in a dog cage with him, and

686
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,559
he he just he turned. It was transfer aggression. So

687
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:17,559
he was barking at a dog. I looked at him

688
00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:19,880
and I was like, no, stop barking, and because he

689
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,160
was well, he looked up at me and was like, okay,

690
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,400
let's go. So it's called transfer aggression. It's like when

691
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,880
you see when two dogs are at a window and

692
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,400
they're burb and you see then they start attacking each other,

693
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:29,400
so it just.

694
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: You know, feeds over.

695
00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:32,359
Speaker 1: So anyways, yeah, he went at me instead and he

696
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,160
grabbed my legs. I had to give him something. Well,

697
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,039
he was nipping out my shirt and then I'm like, okay,

698
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:39,359
shit's going down. I'm about to get molded by the dog.

699
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,319
So I turned around and grabbed the chain link and

700
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,720
was trying to make my way, but he was lunging,

701
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:49,200
so I stuck on a leg. I have four pendages

702
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,000
I could offer him.

703
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,119
Speaker 2: And this is is that really what was running through

704
00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:54,440
your mind when you did that? Or was it just

705
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,720
like an instant like you.

706
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: Have to give him something to bite because he was

707
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,920
going up my belly. Yeah you know, you know, because

708
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,839
you know. So I gave him a leg and he

709
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,000
grabbed on and thank god I was wearing my ugs.

710
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,280
Oh my god, because he his teeth were right on

711
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,519
the stitching, and but he ended up ripping through them,

712
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:16,480
ripped through my jeans. He was trying to kill me.

713
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,760
It was so fucking scary. So I'm holding onto the

714
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,760
chain link trying to get my boots and they're just.

715
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:22,679
Speaker 2: Fucking climb the chain link.

716
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,679
Speaker 1: But my boots were so fat that I couldn't climb them.

717
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,639
I'm like, fuck, I'm not gonna rip my shoes off

718
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,119
right now.

719
00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:27,599
Speaker 2: There's no way.

720
00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: And then I'm screaming. Finally somebody hears me. This is

721
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,000
going on for like a minute that I'm in a.

722
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 2: Cage with a dog ball my god, getting ball, and.

723
00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: She comes in and couldn't get him off me. And

724
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,360
then a kennel attendant finally hurt us because she's like

725
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,199
blowing her whistle. He comes up, throws a bucket of water.

726
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:53,360
The dog lets go and they're like get out, So

727
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,039
I go and the dog grabs me again, and I

728
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:57,960
was like, holy fucking They're like, you need to slide

729
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,480
your foot out of the boot.

730
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 2: Let him have the boot.

731
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: And I was like okay, and I slipped my foot

732
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,159
out and I fucking ran and the dog on the

733
00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:09,559
boot and then spat out the boot and he looked

734
00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:12,519
at me and he charged for me again. So then

735
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:15,159
I hopped into like one of the small little kennels

736
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:15,840
and I locked.

737
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: Myself in a dog cage.

738
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: So then he went and started attacking the kennel attendance.

739
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, I'm assuming he had to be put down,

740
00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:26,159
Yes he did. Yeah.

741
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: I mean if he's gonna go like not even a

742
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,320
bit and release, like bite and release, you might be

743
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,719
able to work through that. Well I don't think got

744
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,880
the shelter, they would work through that. But no, no,

745
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:35,559
that was a.

746
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: Full on your mind.

747
00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I got taken to the hospital, stitches, blah,

748
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,199
blah blah blah, a na big old scar on it.

749
00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:48,400
A lot of people think I got burned by a

750
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:53,800
tailpipe of a motorcycle because it's this like huge huge wow.

751
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,960
Yeah wow. So that happened. And at the same time

752
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000
I met this guy, and at the same time I

753
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:01,840
was in dog gromming school and I fell magically in

754
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,920
love and that was it.

755
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,199
Speaker 2: But the dog attack did not, like lessen your love

756
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:07,880
for animals.

757
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: No, it definitely made it harder to work with that

758
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:14,360
specific color and breed of dog.

759
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,039
Speaker 2: But I forced myself.

760
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,519
Speaker 1: I remember I had this one client come in and

761
00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:22,239
the dog looked identical to the dog, and I know

762
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,719
the ship myself, but I made myself do it. I

763
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,760
pushed myself to get past the anxiety and the fear.

764
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:32,199
And I know that they can feel your feet, so

765
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:35,760
it's going to say feel you. Yeah, so yeah, I

766
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,400
did it. Do you know the best way I actually had?

767
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: I had an aggressive dog that was more so problem

768
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,519
with never like try to kill a person, but definitely

769
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:52,239
tried to kill a couple of other dogs, and I,

770
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,519
you know, would have issues with with her and other dogs.

771
00:36:55,519 --> 00:36:57,480
Do you know what is the best way? Do you

772
00:36:57,519 --> 00:36:59,599
know the best way to like get a dog out

773
00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:02,480
of like a dog attack, Because I've heard like people say,

774
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,559
like you shove your finger up their butt. No, you

775
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:07,079
I've heard other people say, like water.

776
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: Why your first that would be if you have if

777
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:13,800
water is accessible, that would be my first thing. But

778
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,480
you go after the aggressor, you take a leash. So

779
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:20,119
if your dog is getting attacked, you unhook your dog's

780
00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:22,639
leash so that you can let your dog run. You

781
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,199
take your leash and you use it like a slip knot,

782
00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:27,280
and you put it over the other dog's head, the

783
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,079
aggressor's head, and you choke the dog up, you lift

784
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:30,360
it up.

785
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,599
Speaker 2: Now, what if they're lacked onto your dog and you

786
00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:33,840
can't get it over their head.

787
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,599
Speaker 1: Then you need to go from under and you won't

788
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:38,320
be able to You won't be able to do the

789
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,400
actual like.

790
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you're sailing actually, and that takes

791
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,480
you can do that right because you're not putting it

792
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:44,920
out of the head.

793
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: Like if you were able to grab the back of

794
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,920
the collar, let's say, and pull the dog up and

795
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:50,320
you can get it to release for a second, you

796
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,039
could slip it over.

797
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 2: But if you just have a leash, then.

798
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: Yes you obviously you know, and poist that dog up

799
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,960
and you choke it out. You cut off the stair supply. Okay,

800
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,559
that is how you stop a dog. Okay, there's all this,

801
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:04,559
picked them up by their back legs. No, it'll hurt

802
00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:06,719
their acl No, you'll fuck it dog up like that

803
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:09,400
and it would not even guaranteed to work either. Yeah,

804
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,119
the dog would also turn around and come on you

805
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:12,960
a case of transfer aggression.

806
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:17,119
Speaker 2: So yeah, you just the neck, so you got to

807
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,159
be able to like lift it up.

808
00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

809
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,519
Speaker 2: That could be really very hard for a lot of people. Yeaheah.

810
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: Otherwise I don't think there's any real good way.

811
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, so water is the first option.

812
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and sometimes even dogs won't let go. Me and

813
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,280
my ex we had these two dogs that, oh, they

814
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,280
got in a fight once and it was twenty seven minutes.

815
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,039
They were fighting for twenty seven minutes. We tried to

816
00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:44,400
separate them, We used water, We choked them out.

817
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: You can't.

818
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: They were big mastives. There there was no there was none.

819
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,199
And then we went to the vet thousands of dollars

820
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,840
later in surgery and they both survived. They just they

821
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,679
gotten a fight over Like I don't know, do.

822
00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: They normally get along.

823
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't live with them as as I had

824
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,039
already left him by then. Okay, I was at the

825
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:08,159
house for some reason. Yeah, he had these two big,

826
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,519
huge mast ups like one hundred and thirty pounds and

827
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:11,679
one hundred pounds.

828
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: And yeah, they got a lot.

829
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: They were okay, but no, this fight was like, oh

830
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:23,480
my god, intense man, all right, back to Dick's.

831
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: Sorry. I guess it's just like I talk about Dick

832
00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:30,119
so much. I'm like, I'm always like, of a new

833
00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:33,360
topic comes up, I'm like about that, yeah, And I

834
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,039
just know that like the you know, me as like

835
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:37,599
a dog lover and a dog owner and somebody who's

836
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:41,239
had problem dogs, Like, I'm always interested to hear like

837
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,360
the best ways to deal with stuff like that, and

838
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,760
I know that there's a lot of people out there

839
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,800
that have the same questions. Oh yeah, for sure, you know, yeah,

840
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,679
dogfights are scary. Yeah yeah, so you you fell in love,

841
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,239
you left the industry, yep, and when did you come back?

842
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,199
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty is when I started my news social medias.

843
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,519
Speaker 2: Is this like mid pandemic before the pandemic, early pandemic.

844
00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: I think mid pandemic, so like the spring or the

845
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,320
summer summertime.

846
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,639
Speaker 2: I think, Okay, then that was mid pandemic for sure.

847
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

848
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,199
Speaker 2: I think I remember specifically because I got pregnant right

849
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,840
when the pandemic hit. Okay, I got pregnant and then

850
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,480
like I don't know, a month later, like the world

851
00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:27,079
shut down. So that must have been tough. Actually it

852
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:29,800
was rad really, yes, it was the best time to

853
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,880
get pregnant, best because I got to spend my entire

854
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,679
pregnancy just like chilling. That's true, I guess too, you know,

855
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,840
Yeah that's known. Yeah, okay, so I'll say this. It

856
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,639
was a mixed bag. So I got pregnant in January.

857
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:50,320
I didn't find out until February that I was pregnant.

858
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:55,159
But I remember, like because I remember the day. I

859
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,239
just remember, like the day we had sex and I

860
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,760
had one of those trackers and I remember and I

861
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,360
was like really keeping track, but I remember looking at

862
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,639
my phone and it was like this is a very

863
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,239
high likely day to get pregnant. And I was like huh.

864
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,400
And then I went to APN obviously like didn't know

865
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,159
I was pregnant, and then you know, and then I

866
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:19,960
found out afterwards. But it was great because yeah, you know,

867
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:23,400
like I was I'm a photographer and I you know,

868
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,760
I mean, you know, like in the industry, our sets

869
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,920
are like twelve hour days. It was like really really

870
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,880
long days and exhausting, and doing that pregnant would have

871
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,599
been so so I guess you're right. What about the

872
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:41,800
doctor's appointments though, so the very first doctor appointment that

873
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,480
I went to, the first sonogram that I went to,

874
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:47,480
my husband couldn't come into and that was like devastating

875
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:49,760
because it's the first time you get to see your

876
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,840
baby and he couldn't be in there, and like I

877
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,199
was really crushed about that. He was on FaceTime, like

878
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,079
out in the hallway and he could see it, but

879
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:02,960
that was like shitty. But then after that they he

880
00:42:03,079 --> 00:42:05,679
was allowed to They loosened up it a little bit

881
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,280
and he was allowed to come to the rest of them.

882
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:09,159
That's good. He was able to be there in the

883
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:12,760
delivery room. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I gave birth in October,

884
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,400
so by then they were okay with it. But before that,

885
00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:21,039
like I know someone who gave Like if you gave

886
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:27,079
birth early in the pandemic, like around the April, they

887
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:30,000
wouldn't let you. Yeah, and you had to get COVID tested,

888
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,440
and your partner had to get COVID tested, and your

889
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,320
partner had to wear a mask. And there was a

890
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,000
time earlier than I went in that they would make

891
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:42,760
you wear a mask. But it was like debatable they weren't.

892
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,960
They hadn't really loosened up the rules yet. Like halfway

893
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,440
through my pregnancy, and I just remember being like, if

894
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,239
you're going to say that my husband can't be in

895
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,559
the delivering room when I give birth, I'm having the

896
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,159
home home birth, Like go fuck yourself, Like I'm not

897
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:02,480
having a baby, our baby by myself. So but it

898
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:05,360
ended up being okay and he was there. Good. But

899
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,760
it was also nice because like only he could be there,

900
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,480
which meant that my mother couldn't come crush the birth,

901
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:13,199
which she very much wanted to do because you know,

902
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,239
she was a midwife fifty years ago and she knows

903
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,760
better than those doctors. I mean, you know my mom,

904
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,320
so you know what she's like. And I was like, sorry, Mom,

905
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,559
the doctor says you can't be there.

906
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,039
Speaker 1: I think it's weird to have a whole bunch of

907
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:32,639
people and people do that's such an intimate experience. Yeah,

908
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,840
like who why would you? Why would I want a

909
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,760
whole bunch of people in there to see what's going on?

910
00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: Dude. I know some like creators who've had like a

911
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:47,320
film team in there and had like a makeup artist

912
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,239
for like the post baby pictures. I'm not kidding. You've

913
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,400
seen some models who've got their baby afterwards and like

914
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,679
there's no way they didn't get glam right afterwards, they

915
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,599
got like the lashes. They like, look, no one looks

916
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:03,280
like that after you've given birth.

917
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's one hell of experience.

918
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 2: Yeah it's yeah, so joke, yeah so but yeah, so

919
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,639
so it was so honestly, it was great because I

920
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:16,000
got to just like you got to chill, I get

921
00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:17,760
to chill. I got to chill at home. I get

922
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,800
to like enjoy my pregnancy, you know, my husband and

923
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,239
I get to spend a lot of time together. It

924
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,719
was also really cool too because my brother's wife was

925
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,000
pregnant at the same time. She gave birth to her

926
00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:33,599
first kid four months ahead of me, and we actually

927
00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:36,400
all lived together. Okay, yeah, so they lived in the

928
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,280
guest house behind my house. We had like this little pod.

929
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:42,000
That's cool. We get to let's be pregnant together and

930
00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:45,440
like nice little community. Yeah. So it was actually, like, honestly,

931
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,920
it was great. Yeah, it was really nice. That's good.

932
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:53,360
So not bad, but okay, So for you, so it's

933
00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:57,039
so you started your only fans back up now only fans, like,

934
00:44:57,599 --> 00:44:59,119
or did you start it for the first time, because

935
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:01,079
it wasn't really like a thing back when you were

936
00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:03,400
shooting before right, I don't even think it existed.

937
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I came back and I was like,

938
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,239
what the fuck is this thing called OnlyFans? And they're

939
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,880
like what I've got shu?

940
00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow?

941
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:17,199
Speaker 1: How what a game changer? I know, like serious game changer.

942
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,480
I put so much power into the hands of the talent. Excellent.

943
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 2: It changed a lot of the power dynamics in the

944
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,199
industry and pushed a lot of people out of the

945
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,480
industry who liked to abuse the previous power dynamics in

946
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:35,719
the industry, if you know what I mean. Yes, yeah,

947
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,360
I think only on this great. Yeah, it really leveled

948
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,599
the playing field. Yeah, and I think it's only been

949
00:45:41,679 --> 00:45:43,320
a positive thing. I know, there was like a lot

950
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,480
of producers that initially complained and some that still do that.

951
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:50,920
You know, like, oh, we lost a lot of like

952
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,360
the big talent because now they're just doing their only

953
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,239
fans and they're not shooting for companies anymore. And I'm

954
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:56,719
just like, you know.

955
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: What that should speak to you about the experience the

956
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,000
ellent had.

957
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: But also like I feel like I would rather only

958
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,159
work with people who want to be on set. If

959
00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:09,000
you don't want to be on set, if you're only

960
00:46:09,039 --> 00:46:13,519
there because you need to make that paycheck. Then like,

961
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,280
if you can make just enough money at home and

962
00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:20,920
you would rather just shoot like stuff in your bedroom

963
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,719
and you're doing great with that, that's fantastic, right, But

964
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,000
there's still a ton of super successful performers that still

965
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:29,079
do scenes because they love it. Like Angela White's a

966
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:32,000
perfect example, you know, like clearly, like she's one of

967
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,360
the most successful creators in the industry. She I'm sure

968
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:39,159
she does great on Only Fans. Oh yeah, I'm sure

969
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,320
she doesn't need to shoot scenes, but she likes she

970
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,239
likes doing, she likes being on set, she likes the crew,

971
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,280
she likes the production, she enjoys the process, and that

972
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,599
makes it enjoyable for everybody. Yes, you know, yep, I

973
00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:53,599
agree with you. So that must have been like a

974
00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:55,320
really interesting shift for you.

975
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, learn it even just to begin with,

976
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:02,519
learning how to use OnlyFans as a whole. When I

977
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:04,199
look back at my vault now, I'm like, oh, my

978
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,639
fucking god, you uploaded the same thing like fifty.

979
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: Five times because you didn't know that you.

980
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: So, yeah, learning how to use the platform was was interesting.

981
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:23,440
But yeah, it's made everything different. So for me, I

982
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,280
get to definitely use my voice, Like I'm not shooting

983
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,679
for companies right now, but during the year that I did, Yeah,

984
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,480
I got to speak up. I got to say exactly

985
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:33,199
who I wanted to work with and X Y and

986
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,000
Z and I appreciate that because it's my body and

987
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:39,039
I want to want to be there. So I want

988
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:40,679
to give the best scene. I want to do the

989
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,920
best at what I can do, and I need to

990
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,920
I need a few certain things to go my way

991
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:47,239
so that I can be that.

992
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,599
Speaker 2: You've said before that you're not as vanilla as you

993
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,840
used to be. What does that mean means?

994
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: I guess I was just such a prude when I

995
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,599
came in and I had these ideas about things.

996
00:47:57,639 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 2: I was curious.

997
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:04,079
Speaker 1: I had judgments, and I had judgments of things I

998
00:48:04,159 --> 00:48:09,400
was curious about, but I was scared of. And yeah,

999
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,800
I've learned, And no, I think I've just evolved. Yeah,

1000
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:19,519
I've changed, I've evolved. I really enjoy femdom Okay, yeah,

1001
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,280
I would love to be a dominat trix.

1002
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: It was stopping you. I don't know. I'm too busy,

1003
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:27,199
fair enough.

1004
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,199
Speaker 1: I would need to learn and I live pretty far

1005
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:32,039
and I don't think, well, I'm sure, there's a dungeon

1006
00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:32,679
nearby something.

1007
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: So there is a school for dominatrixes. And actually she

1008
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:42,320
came on my podcast, Mistress Domiani Chi. Really yes, and

1009
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,000
Rachel Steele took her course and she came on my

1010
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:47,840
podcast and she talked about the course and she said

1011
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,719
it was amazing. Really yes, So she runs a school

1012
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,239
for dominatrixes that would be out here in La Huh.

1013
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:59,039
I'll send you her info. Okay, Okay, yeah, I like

1014
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:01,880
that stuff. Yeah, I could see I could see you

1015
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:02,440
being good at that.

1016
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:04,519
Speaker 1: It's yes, I like holding that power.

1017
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: Now you're back from veterinary school, is that right? Yes? Okay.

1018
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,559
Speaker 1: So I finally decided that I'm going to do it

1019
00:49:12,039 --> 00:49:13,880
well because my alash girl was like, oh, you can

1020
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,280
get your bachelor's online. I was like, wait, what, I

1021
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,280
can get my bachelor's online nowadays?

1022
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:19,639
Speaker 2: And she said yes.

1023
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, sign me up then, because I

1024
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,800
can't go to a school. It's not with the grooming

1025
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,800
company and the family life and the fucking zoo that

1026
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,599
I have at my house in taking care of the house.

1027
00:49:31,679 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 2: It's just I can't go to.

1028
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: School plus pay the bills plus shoot, like I can't

1029
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,199
do it all right, So yeah, but now I am

1030
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,119
doing it just online and it's a lot.

1031
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, just as hard as you remembered it would be

1032
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:51,280
back in high school. Yes, yes, yes, it's yeah. I'm

1033
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,920
in calculus right now. Oh god, I know that's a

1034
00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:01,440
dirty it's really bad. Where are you planning to like

1035
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,719
finish your degree, quit adult and become a veterinarian? Is

1036
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,679
that like the path? Are you just going to kind.

1037
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: Of see I'm just going to see where things go. Okay,

1038
00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:14,480
and I want to finish school, but I mean that's

1039
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,239
a long process, Like we're talking seven years. So yeah,

1040
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,079
and so I'll be here. I'll still do the grooming thing.

1041
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: My hope is.

1042
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: Once I finish that school. Yes, I want to be

1043
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:35,199
a veterinarian. I want to use my platforms to spread

1044
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,559
awareness and goodness and raise money and I want to help.

1045
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,639
I want I think that all space and neators should

1046
00:50:43,639 --> 00:50:45,679
be free. I think I should be paid for by

1047
00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:48,119
the government. I got some plans.

1048
00:50:48,199 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 2: I disagree with you at all.

1049
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: We have a huge animal crisis going on, and the

1050
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:55,760
cost of space and neuters the majority of people can't

1051
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,760
afford it. You know, the majority of people aren't making

1052
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,679
ten grand a months they're not making you know, like, yeah,

1053
00:51:03,039 --> 00:51:05,280
so my friend called me the other day. Actually, the

1054
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,599
guy from the bed hospital with the puppy, he got

1055
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:09,880
a new puppy and just so funny that he moved

1056
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:10,199
out here.

1057
00:51:10,199 --> 00:51:11,599
Speaker 2: Too interesting, weird.

1058
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: He's like, Oh, it's gonna cost me like twelve hundred

1059
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,320
dollars so new or my maltee. I'm like, that's that's wild,

1060
00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:19,760
Like people can't afford that, and hence why we have

1061
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:20,280
an animal.

1062
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, price, what's going on? Yeah?

1063
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I would like we'll see, I don't know,

1064
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,280
we'll see, We'll see how I look. We'll see, because

1065
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,360
you know, that's I'm already forty three. So by the

1066
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,119
time I finished school, let's say I'm fifty, and what

1067
00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:37,039
if I go downhill really quickly, I don't know.

1068
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:40,159
Speaker 2: You never know how things are gonna go. So I

1069
00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:42,480
don't know. I mean, you know, I was like the

1070
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:47,920
number one search term and adult, right is it really?

1071
00:51:48,559 --> 00:51:54,519
No shit, that's the biggest niche really, yes, it's sport

1072
00:51:54,599 --> 00:51:59,559
to God or were the best all that experience, you

1073
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:00,000
know what I mean?

1074
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:03,199
Speaker 1: Like I'm way better now than I was one hundred

1075
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,159
years ago. Way better, Yeah, way better. I mean, I

1076
00:52:06,199 --> 00:52:06,920
know my shit now.

1077
00:52:07,159 --> 00:52:09,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you're going to be fine. I

1078
00:52:09,199 --> 00:52:10,880
think you can stay in as long as you want.

1079
00:52:11,639 --> 00:52:13,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just want to do what I want to do, right,

1080
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,639
and I want to do everything I want to do. Yes,

1081
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,800
so that's the plan. I'll probably start Mobile Veterinary Hospital, okay, Yeah,

1082
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:24,599
so that I can go around to people help them

1083
00:52:24,679 --> 00:52:28,559
that I can do mobile cat, Earth, cat Neuter and space.

1084
00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:32,559
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I love that. All right, Well, thank you

1085
00:52:32,599 --> 00:52:35,400
so much for coming on. I know that we do

1086
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,400
actually have some more questions for you from our Patreon members,

1087
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,360
which we are going to do in a separate segment.

1088
00:52:41,519 --> 00:52:45,679
Is there anything else that you have planned for this

1089
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,000
year that people should be looking out for or do

1090
00:52:49,039 --> 00:52:50,760
you want to just give them a shout out on

1091
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,079
your socials let people know where they should follow you

1092
00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:56,039
and they can kind of keep track of what's to come.

1093
00:52:56,599 --> 00:52:59,039
Speaker 1: Yes, so everyone can follow me on Instagram, which is

1094
00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:04,000
copri Kivani dot ig. My TikTok has more like my

1095
00:53:04,119 --> 00:53:08,280
personal day to day okay, data day, bullshit, me complaining

1096
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:14,000
about Calculus that Rikavani dot TikTok. And then my Twitter

1097
00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:16,559
is where I promote my scenes. So I suppose that

1098
00:53:16,599 --> 00:53:17,639
would be the one.

1099
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 2: Okay, right, or they could just follow you on all

1100
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,159
my ex my ex or all of them.

1101
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: Yes, that's even better.

1102
00:53:23,679 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: That's my ex, the Kubri Kavanni, the Carikavanni. Yes, okay,

1103
00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:30,039
got it. And then of course you're only fans.

1104
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: Not only fans which is just Abriakavoni.

1105
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, And then you guys of course can

1106
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,800
follow me at Holly Randall on Twitter and on x

1107
00:53:39,199 --> 00:53:41,880
Go to Patreon dot com, slash Holly Randall and filter

1108
00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:46,920
to get access to these shows streamed live. The bonus

1109
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,280
Q and A is like we're about to do now

1110
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,960
and so much more. Go to Holly links dot com

1111
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,199
for access to all of my platforms. Thank you guys

1112
00:53:54,199 --> 00:53:56,480
so much for watching, and I will see you guys

1113
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:03,079
next week