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Speaker 1: Welcome to Squatching Holler.

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Speaker 2: In the midst where the trees lean loom.

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Speaker 3: Squatching Hollers gotta tell the show.

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Speaker 2: Wisps creep like a creature strained out. Every shadows got

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a secret to crowd monsters rise? Where the stories are told?

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Squatching Holler? Where the legends are born?

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Speaker 4: Are they here?

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Speaker 5: Are they gone?

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Speaker 2: Who can say?

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Speaker 3: In the hollow of the true with just slips, useful

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prince fade where the creek runs than a lantern sways,

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let the search begin, rustling leaves, But there's no one there?

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Speaker 2: Is it the wind or the beast?

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Speaker 5: You fear? Everyhere goes question, Every Russell's a clue.

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Speaker 6: Squatching hollis got its eye on you.

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Speaker 5: Monsters w stories are torn?

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Speaker 6: Swaps?

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Speaker 3: And how where.

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Speaker 6: The legends are born?

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Speaker 5: Are they? Are they called?

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Speaker 2: Who can say?

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Speaker 7: And now your hosts welcome you to Squash and Holland

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Roger Williams and Amanda Stylist. Remember this podcast can be

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downloaded everywhere great podcasts are found. And now the show.

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Speaker 6: Hey we're live. Hey everybody, thank you for being here again. Moderators,

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everybody in chat, thank y'all. I try not to look

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at chat y'all, we're doing the show, y'all know why

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I get tickled, and I'll be you know, I won't

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be able to say anything. But anyway, which is rare.

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So tonight Amanda's doing a presentation in Georgia. She's been

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doing that some and she does a great job at it.

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So she sent me some pictures from the venue and

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she got a really cool setup. So tonight Bama murdocks

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feeling and in y'all love Bama. Bama's cool. Uh we

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got Adam Cold to be a fun show. He's he's

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detect guy and he's say we're in one night at

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they'll be all you'll know for the live. And I

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had this big idea to go live in at l

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Bell and find these signals. So Adam had h what

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is it starlink and set it up in about five

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minutes when we're own live. So anyway, we're gonna bring

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the guys in and uh, Bama is going to be

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He's gonna be co hosting, but he's got a lot

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of questions, so I'm gonna turn him loose too. And

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then Adam don't I never know what expect for him,

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so we'll just bring him in. Hey, guys. Hey, guys,

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can Bama here is what's up? Thank you, Thank y'all

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for being here. It's a yeah, every show is fun,

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but it's they're all different too, and you know, Bama

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and I've got to know each other and just kind

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of accidy and you know, Adam same way, showed up

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down here one day and everybody's everybody. Everybody gets along

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because we're in this for the same reasons. We're learning,

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we're trying to learn, We're trying to learn the truth.

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And sometimes we get our feelings hurt. You know, we

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figure out something's not what we thought it was, and

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that's okay. And well I'm not too proud to say,

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you know, I'm misidentified something. And I think these guys

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right here the same way.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, many times I've had to do anyway. Yeah,

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I'm looking at Chat. Hey, everybody, Chad always.

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Speaker 6: I know, I know Bama.

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Speaker 2: What's that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? You know, they they make uh, they make it

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worth being here. It's just the people in Chat are amazing.

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Some great questions come from Chat, so I guess we

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can start. I'm only asked Bama's question because I know

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what he usually asked. But Adam, what what got you

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into this subject, I mean, because is it something that's

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always been in the back of your mind or does

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something happen to you?

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Speaker 2: Well, I grew up in Colorado.

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Speaker 4: You can you guys can hear me?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, good? Well before we start, let me say Bama,

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so good to see you again. LBO was awesome, really

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nice meeting you down there.

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Speaker 2: It's it's fun to be on the show.

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Speaker 4: So I grew up in Colorado and in a small

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little town and climbed the mountains every day. I was

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a little fit, little mountain goat kid. And I saw

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UFO when I was a kid, so right away I

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was like hooked, Like what was that thing in the sky?

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and seriously like it's called a ghost town, and many

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of the houses in town were haunted, including mine, and

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they were constantly messing with the kitchen and pots and

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pans and stuff like that all the time. But I

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finally got to see one. So right away, as a

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young kid, I believed in ghosts, and I believed in

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UFOs and aliens, and so I went out to the

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movie theater I saw this video on UFOs Aliens and

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of course they put Bigfoot in there too, and that

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was probably in the late seventies, and they showed the original,

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you know, unstabilized Patterson footage in the movie. And so

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into Bigfoot because he was all into lockdesk, monster room, Like, well,

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I can't afford to take you to Scotland's, but what

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do we have in the United States you can go

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heading for? So I got into Bigfoot early on, but

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I was a couch. I was a couch an armchair researcher,

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a keyboard warrior, you know what I'm saying. I really

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didn't do anything until twenty twenty one. My wife and

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I went hiking and we found some tracks, uh and

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it was a juvenile and I'm probably the mama bear,

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you know, uh, hanging out.

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Speaker 2: And they had toes.

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Speaker 4: And the interesting thing about being in Minnesota is it's

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cold and we have snow, and it was early in

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the season, so there was a lot of snow on

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the ground. So why would anybody, especially a kid, be

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walking around the woods barefoot with snow on, just waiting that.

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Speaker 6: And we've a lot of us have experienced that. You

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you see something, you say tracks, and your immediately immediately

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are like, it's too cold out here. Why would anybody

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be running around barefoot in this type of weather? And

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it's just that's that's that's probably were more rare than

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bigfoot tracks because people are we're cecies as a as

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a you know, as a as a people. Nobody does that.

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I mean if it's around the house maybe, but out

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in these places that Bama goes and you go, it's

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just it doesn't make sense. And and I don't I

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think we talk about things like that and we just

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kind of skim over it, you know, like, no, that's

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a very important fact. You know, it's it's Bama. Nos.

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is big, I would think, So, I don't know, why

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do we do that? Y'all? Think? Why don't we skim over?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 6: I try to bring attention to the small details when

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I hear them, But a lot of people just you know,

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especially the fence setters, you know what I mean, They're like, ah,

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they don't mean anything, But why do y'all think we do.

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Speaker 2: That, you know, go ahead, Bama, it's funny you're talking

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about that. The Reading Oval trackway, for example, the first

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thing that was ever found was Shelley Reid found these

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little small footprints, but they were really deep in the mud. Now,

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it wasn't cold or that inclement weather or anything along

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that line, But every single one of us looked at

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the tracks where they we originally saw them that starting,

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and everybody said the same thing. Who would let a

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kid walk around out there? Because there's fish hooks out

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in that water, there's maybe broken glass out there, so

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that just you know, that's just popped out.

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Speaker 6: And exactly that's what popped in my head three years

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later when I found the trackway, was who would be

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out here walking barefoot? Now, now the small detail with

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y'all's case, Bama, is it was on the other side.

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other parking lot. That's a know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had to walk from the worst place you

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could walk barefooted, at the bottom of a boat ramp

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in the mud. Everything bad that's in the waterfalls out

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at the boat ramp, you know, in the water.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, I just I want to throw that in

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there because it's a good point.

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Speaker 6: It's, uh, you know, I'm I'm wired different, I guess

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because I still freak out on how a record player works.

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Speaker 4: So you know, that's another reason why I got into this,

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because I meet so many great people like you. But

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I'm a tech head, so I love to bring technology

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to the woods and to this quest.

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Speaker 2: And I want to say this to everybody listening. I

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always tell Roger and everybody, I kind of do podcasts

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for people that are riding in their cars listening or

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maybe with their head from in at night in bed,

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you know, because I ain't nothing to look at. But uh,

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but before we started to show, y'all, uh, we're talking

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to Adam. He's like, Hey, I'm going to see you

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this such and such, and you know, I'm going to

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see you this. And he starts talking all this technical

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jog and and all this stuff like that. And I said, Adam,

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I said, dude, I said, you start getting too technically.

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I said, we're gonna freaking boot you. And I don't

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know what. I said, We'll just start yacking. I said, well,

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I said, we'll get Dame Greg House on the show.

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In three seconds. Yeah, and yea with Greg so but anyway.

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Speaker 6: But I know he's joking and I and I am too,

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because the thing is always talking about building teams and

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you need you need people with different experiences and Adam can.

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What he brings to the table is a lot of stuff.

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all of that's important though you know, it's it's, it's

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Speaker 4: Well, Roger went on as a couch researcher and I

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was just watching bigfoot shows.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't really doing much.

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Speaker 4: What's really funny is my wife said you My wife

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looked over me and said, you're not going to find

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bigfoot sitting on the couch.

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Speaker 2: And that's what got me out in the buds there.

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Speaker 6: You go, well see and said that's she's the important

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part of your team. Then she pootied you out into

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the woods. So yeah, I mean, so what happened? Uh,

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you know, when you when you actually find real evidence

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and people can scoff at it or whatever, but you've

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already tried to debunk it in your mind, and you're

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looking at the evidence. Did it? Did it? Do you

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like it does a lot of is it light a fire?

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Speaker 4: For me, I was already a true believer because of

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the Patterson footage. So I was just pointing it out

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to my wife and I was trying to explain to

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her why would any mom let their kid run around

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right now in twenty degree weather with no shoes on.

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of a skeptic, which is really funny because she's heard

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so many things and been around me for so long,

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she still is She's not buying into it till she

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actually meets one.

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Speaker 6: And I understand that I get it.

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Speaker 4: Too, and I don't push that on anybody, including my wife.

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Speaker 6: So right, and Heather, she's she's experienced they as something else.

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We kind of skim over. I told her one day,

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I know you haven't seen one, but you've had so

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many B and C encounters type that it's almost hard

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to talk about because there's people that won't believe it,

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you know. And but but she knows. She's been with me,

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my son's been with me, and it's to the point

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now where it's to her. It's not surprising. Every time

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I find something or hear something or whatever is surprising

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to me because I know how rare it is. It's

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it's a it's a privilege too, or it's like scoring

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a touchdown in the super Bowl finding a track. I mean,

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that's just the way it is. That's how rare.

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Speaker 2: They're rare. Yeah, tracks are rare.

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Speaker 4: I will say this though, you maybe do homework today.

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Roger oh down and started listing all the things that

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realize this, but I've been on twenty five expeditions in

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the last five years. And that I mean I've been out,

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there were people would pay oh yeah, big money to

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go the play and we'll talk about that. Uh that

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was pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: I have an out just covering that. So just get

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ready for it, you know. Yeah, And what I have

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a bunch of questions about all that.

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Speaker 6: And what I'll do is I'll start with you know,

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Adam and I meeting, and then I'll let you tear

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into your question. So, uh yeah, there's a lot. I

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don't know if we can get it all in tonight,

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but that but he's Adam's right, I mean you you

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follow him on Facebook, You're like, where the hell is

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he at?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 6: Like this is cool? So that's I like to see

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that because, uh, I know, you know you've been to

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places like problem areas where people have called you to

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go to. You have pretty terrifying experience here while back

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and uh and Adam, Adam experiences the technical glitches when

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these things are supposed around too, So it's it's something

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to that I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know what it is either anymore.

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Speaker 6: Well, that'd be a good question. So from seeing the

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film and believing, and then you got the tracks, and

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then what the things you've done since twenty twenty has

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your idea or theories or changed on these things? What

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do you think we're dealing with? Or could it be

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multiple things?

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Speaker 4: Well, like I've said in previous podcasts, I've always tried

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to just stick to the flesh and blood camp, right

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and not because I don't believe the WU camp. Are

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we calling a WU or high strangeness?

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Speaker 6: Whatever? It don't matter if somebody if a troll jumps

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in here, We're gonna boot him anyway, So I would.

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Speaker 2: Call high strangeness at this point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, So the high strangeness camp is something

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I've tried to stay away from because if we're out

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in the woods and we're chasing an invisible portal hopping extraterrestrial,

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I'm never gonna catch it.

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Speaker 2: I don't ever chance.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I got to.

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Speaker 4: Say, you know what, I think this is just a

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big flesh and blood creature. It leaves tracks, it leaves blood.

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We've got blood samples. It leaves, it leaves feces, it

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leaves hair, it leaves all this stuff. So we know

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that it's physical in form, right, But what else do

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we know?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: So I do have an open mind, especially after what

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happened to me in New York, which we can get

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into a little bit too, okay, but yeah, and now

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I have to definitely join the high strange in this camp.

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Speaker 7: More.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's hard not to at least listen because the

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same thing happened to me as happened to you lived

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in a haunted house early on saw UFO at seventeen.

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So for me to have a closed mind would be hypocritical,

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but I'm not. I just tell everybody I don't know either.

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I don't know yet. I'm not going to link anything together.

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And I know Obama doesn't either. Fight but you know,

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you keep it on a shelf over here, just in cage.

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But so yeah, go ahead, go ahead, And I think, yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Just want to make a comment before we start here too.

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I think what drives me a little nuts sometimes about

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researchers is when you're just standing there talking to them

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and they're just guessing. They're like, this is where they

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you know, this is where they do their ceremonies.

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Speaker 2: How do you know that? Did you see a ceremony? Right?

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it looks cool. It might be a place

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for ceremonies, but how do you know that? So I

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like to stick with just the more simple facts like oh,

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there's a footprint, there's a track.

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Speaker 2: Here, you know that kind of deal.

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Speaker 4: So the other cool thing is that I was talking

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to Chris earlier today, and I want to make sure

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that everyone out there knows that I'm not one of

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these guys who wants to come to your place and

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take it over and steal your research and whatever else

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like that.

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Speaker 2: I'm just there to help you out.

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Speaker 4: If you want me to help you put up some

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cameras or some better microphones or install a starlink or whatever. Yeah,

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that's what I'm there for. And if I get to

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see a big foot on your property, hell yeah, that's

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what I'm out there for.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: So there's I guess there's a thing going around in

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certain communities that people are like being all weird about.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to have them in my head sight

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is going to take my stuff?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know the part the side of it

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I understand is people not wanting them stirred up, and

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then you're leaving and maybe wanting to protect them a

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little bit. But other than the rest of it, you

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can if the people that are researching or have the

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the right attitude and the right goals, you know, you

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shouldn't have to worry about that. And I know y'all

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have some ideas that in twenty nineteen, if I'd have

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said it around on campfire with you and Chris Rhineheart,

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I'm like, what in the world. But now, now, after

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doing what we've done, I'm like, yeah, that's a good

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that's a great idea. But so you want to you

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want to get into a little bit of the Southern trip,

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a little bit in Bama.

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Speaker 4: You Oh yeah, I mean just getting like getting off

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the couch and you know, talking with Doug and getting

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to meet people has been the most amazing thing in

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the last five years. And it's like every time you

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go somewhere, you meet somebody new and so they're like, hey,

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come to my spot, Hey do this hang out with me,

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or you should get to know blah blah blah, and

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so that's led me to everything. So Doug invited me

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to go to Snellgrove after my thirty days in the woods,

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which was awesome, and that's where I met Chris, and

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Chris introduced me to Greg and we got to go

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on the Southern Tour. So it's like I get to

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meet all these wonderful people, and you write, I have

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been to places that people would pay to be.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: I've been up to Banff and I've been out to

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you know, the Radium site. I have been to Flat

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Rock site. I've been to this you know, the Pennsylvania site.

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I've been I've been all over the place. The one

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place I haven't gone yet, which was a trip we

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scheduled last year that got canceled was the Bluff Creek site.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to go there probably next year, I hope.

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But yeah, I'm planning.

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Speaker 4: I'm hitting all the big major sites and hopefully even

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next year go down to Texas and see the Cells

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site as well.

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Speaker 2: You know, so.

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Speaker 6: Well post plenty of pictures because a lot of us

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that can't do that kind of live through you a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit, all right, I'll have to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not looking for attention, so I very rarely post.

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That's the first time I went live on Facebook in

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a long time, and I'm just like, Okay, there are

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people watching.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I should go live more often.

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Speaker 6: Well, uh, what the He texted me and he was

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camping at the LBO by himself, and I said, are

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you nuts, Bama? Shall it? You don't count?

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Speaker 2: I know you.

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Speaker 6: I was just figuring out ATAM.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 6: I'm I don't know, y'all. It's it's different. I don't

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know why. I just have a some places that they'll

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be I feel fine. In other places I'm I'm real

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nervous about so. Yeah, And that night that we had

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whatever it was that was big and breathing congestively three

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foot from my tent. That kind of you know, I

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had my dog and my wife with me, and you know,

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it changes things. And I'm like, y'all, I knew this

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was an active place, but I didn't know this was

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gonna come up and get my left pocket. You know,

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It's like, what the hell. I don't know what it was,

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but it was very big. And later the next morning,

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I think Billy Shilling and some of them Gary Spikes

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and all of them found a big track and a

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gravel bar and the dry creek behind us. So and

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that's the way it went. So, you know, I don't

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know what it was, but it wasn't nothing I wanted

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to tangle with after midnight, you know, in a tent.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: That is one thing about being alone is you don't

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have to care for others. So that is kind of

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a nice thing. Like if I'm gonna die, it's just

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going to be me. And if it's and if I die,

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I hopefully somebody will get it on camera and maybe

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even me. I don't know live stream it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's a real thing, Adam. When I had I

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got in a situation, I made the decision when I

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turned my back to walk out slowly. I kept my

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phone recording for that reason. If this, if whatever this is,

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gets me, at least maybe they'll have a record of it,

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you know. And that's a terrible, terrible feeling. Yeah, but

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but it you know, I don't know why some of

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us think that way, but I did. I thought I

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was recording. But anyway, so all right, we can So

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I'll just tell uh, you know, y'all came down, you,

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Chris came down, and Bud and I met you at

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the man Cave. Yeah, and of course Chris, I met

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him for the first time face to face. And it's

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just I don't know what it is about this group,

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I mean, including you and all the rest of the people.

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Everybody just kind of it's it's instant, instant connections, you know.

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And I don't know whether it's the experiences that everybody's

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had and that you know, you know, that they're real.

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Maybe that's part of it, or but you know. And

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then I think we went down to Cumbo's and Chris

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and I were looking out the back door at the fields.

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We I know, y'all are over there listening to audio

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and everything, but we Chris and I we were just

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watching and really wasn't talking, but we were doing the

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same thing. So, yeah, tell us tell us a little

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bit about that. Mama, I'm gonna I'm gonna step back

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and let you do your thing. So you're so good

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at it.

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Speaker 2: All right, here's what's interesting. And Chris and I text,

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you know, back and forth occasionally a while back, and

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I'll be brief with this. Chris is a really good

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graphic designer. And you know, some people know that, some

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people don't. But he designed my logo for my YouTube

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Slingshotting channel, and so he made all my stickers and stuff,

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you know, my graphic design for my stick slingshot stickers

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I hand out that, you know, kids and stuff. And

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so I knew that y'all were making this sweep down

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through Alabama and see Greg lives just up the road

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from me here. So I had started text and I

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was looking at the text today to Chris and I'm like, man,

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you know we need to go camping. And He's like, well,

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we're just kind of going through because you know, Greg

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is in Bankhead National Force. The Land of a Thousand

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water Falls, I mean, it's and I told Chris, I, go,

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you have to go hiking, you have to understand what

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just looks like down in there. Otherwise you're just looking

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at pine trees and stuff. So, uh, I wanted to

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ask you a bit this about Gregg's place, you know,

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while I had the chance to, because I've been there,

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lots of other people have been there, Uh, hearing all

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the stories about it from people, and say, you get

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an image in your mind. I asked everybody this, You

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get an image in your mind as to what Greggs

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Man Cave looks like on the outside of the surrounding area.

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You do get when people start telling stories about it,

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you start getting up you in your brain, you get

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an idea as to what it looks like around it,

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don't you. I want to. I really want to know

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what your thought when you first went up there, and

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just you know, kind of how it went, why you

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were there. I didn't have any Greg is what I'm

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gonna say next. Yeah, I mean, you know, I always

472
00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:16,440
say I didn't hear or see anything, but uh, and

473
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,599
I like to sit around the fire at night and

474
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,920
just kind of listen to the night stuff. I mean,

475
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,519
I'm kind of a looner, you know. And uh, I

476
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:28,640
wouldn't sit out on that back porch by myself. I

477
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:34,119
mean Roger always laughs, but no, no, Roger laughs because he's

478
00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:39,680
been there to the place. And uh And I told Greg,

479
00:27:39,799 --> 00:27:42,480
I said, uh, man, I wouldn't sit at that corner

480
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:44,519
of that porch for nothing. And I go and I

481
00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:47,519
don't know why. I haven't heard or seen anything, you know,

482
00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:51,160
And I'm and we're pretty you know, well armed. But anyway,

483
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,680
what did you what'd you think when you got up there?

484
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 4: Well, it was hilarious because I didn't know Roger, I

485
00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:03,480
didn't know Greg, I didn't know Koombo, I didn't know anybody.

486
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,079
Speaker 2: Never even heard.

487
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 4: Of any of these people, and all of them, never

488
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,720
watched them on YouTube. And the first thing I do

489
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:14,599
is I'm driving down to you know, Alabama from Minnesota.

490
00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:17,279
So I got the longest drive of the three of us,

491
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,200
and those two yahoos, you know, Chris and Bud are

492
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:25,559
basically saying, let's just drive straight through. And I'm like, dude,

493
00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:27,759
you guys, I've been driving twenty hours already, and you're

494
00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:29,920
gonna make me drive more like you told us we

495
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,920
were going to stop, and they're like, so we ended

496
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,720
up stopping at a BUCkies, which was really fun. And

497
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,240
I ended up drinking a coffee and I had a

498
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,119
five hour energy shot and it was just I don't

499
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,920
normally drink coffee or five hour energy. So by the

500
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,960
time I got to Greg's place, I was buzzing' I

501
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,200
was just like w and I walked into Greg's man

502
00:28:50,319 --> 00:28:53,599
cave and you've been there, It's amazing.

503
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: And I just walked in.

504
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 4: I was like a kid in the candy shop. I'm like, what,

505
00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:00,440
who is this guy? Why is it got all this

506
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:03,559
cool stuff? It's like, what's going on here? And the

507
00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:06,960
funny part is I was looking around to see if

508
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:13,720
there was any signs of female habitation, right, And I'm like, Okay.

509
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: This is a bachelor pad. This is one.

510
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,359
Speaker 4: Hundred percent of bachelor pat Yeah. And then I just

511
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,920
got into my mind that Greg wasn't married, and I

512
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,000
basically and so later on it's like you have a wife,

513
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:27,680
what And they're like, where does she live?

514
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: You know?

515
00:29:28,359 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 4: And then he goes, oh, I have a house on

516
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,519
the other side. I didn't realize that was his play

517
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,960
his man cave playroom. I thought he lived there. I

518
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,720
thought he was the wild man that was that like

519
00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:42,720
inhabitated that space, you know, And that's.

520
00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 6: Not that's not far from the truth.

521
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:47,519
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not when you need him, He's just like, yeah,

522
00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:50,599
I got guns, and I'm like hunt and I I'm like,

523
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,880
I've never hunted. Yeah, I got a couple of guns,

524
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,920
but you know, I I barely know how to clean him,

525
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,839
you know. So anyways, Greg tells these stories about that,

526
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,559
the most amazing stories I've ever heard, you know, And

527
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,279
I'm just like, wow, you've had all these experiences. He goes, yeah,

528
00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:09,880
half of them are right off the back porch, and

529
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,400
I'm like what. So we all decided to go sit

530
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,319
out there and uh, just hang out and see what happens.

531
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,240
I think at that place we did actually see some

532
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,240
shadows moving around in the woods, but nothing, nothing growled, nothing,

533
00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:24,599
you know.

534
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,079
Speaker 2: It was intimidating, and it wasn't that scary. Now.

535
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 4: When I was at LBL, something growled at me from

536
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,599
the dark and I was alone, basically because I was

537
00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:37,759
sleeping in the middle of the camp after everybody left,

538
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:40,680
and you would not see a fat person jump so

539
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:43,799
fast and so high. I jumped back into my car

540
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,160
so fast, slammed the door and I'm just like, okay,

541
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,079
please don't break in.

542
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:52,839
Speaker 6: Well, after everybody. After everybody left, I don't know who

543
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,880
all talked about it. Yeah, but there are a few

544
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,759
of you left, and uh, I think Pat and Joe somebody.

545
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,960
I think it's something stepped on his step and moved

546
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,039
the cooler, moved a chair off the cooler and pitched

547
00:31:05,079 --> 00:31:06,759
it to the side and looked in the cooler.

548
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: Yep.

549
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,519
Speaker 6: And so yeah, I don't know how many people that

550
00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:13,759
were there know some stuff happened after we all left,

551
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:14,400
but he did.

552
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:15,119
Speaker 3: Yeah.

553
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: I think the only reason that I don't get it

554
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:22,480
because I camp far away from everybody over in a

555
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:27,720
nook on it. Yeah, that's where I always camp at. Uh,

556
00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:29,559
and I had a couple of people over there with me,

557
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,839
but this time, I uh, you know, I've had an

558
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,839
encounter with a big cat over there a couple of times,

559
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,519
you know, coming around the tenth. I think the reason

560
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:44,880
they leave me alone is because I have trail cams

561
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,000
and trip wires set up all the I did trip

562
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:53,400
wires that go to like twenty two round you know, blanks,

563
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,720
and but really the game cam, the videos and stuff,

564
00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:02,160
you know, I think keeps them away from my camp.

565
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,640
Most people are like, oh, I would like to man,

566
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,920
I don't want them coming in my camp. These are

567
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,119
LBL buggers. They're just a whole different you know, Yeah,

568
00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:15,160
a whole different thing.

569
00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 6: Well, and for clarity, the people that don't know, one

570
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:21,119
almost stepped on your head and your tent one night,

571
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:24,200
So that's a little too close, That's what I'm saying.

572
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,200
I was three foot away from whatever this was, and

573
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,880
it was big, and he didn't care that we knew

574
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,440
it was there. It wasn't trying to be quiet. So

575
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,400
after that happened, people make fun of me, like Roger

576
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,200
won't sleep in the tent. I'm like, I'll stay here

577
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,839
with you all week. It gets around midnight, I'm made

578
00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:43,079
to a cabin somewhere, and I still aint comfortable.

579
00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:43,799
Speaker 2: You know.

580
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:48,119
Speaker 6: There was the one place we stayed. I had seen

581
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,359
the white wolf and whatever that black thing was on

582
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,440
the side of the road. It was massive. On the way,

583
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,279
I saw one right after another. And Heather we got

584
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:59,359
back to the cabin and she come out of the bathroom.

585
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,240
She said, why are the lights on outside? I said,

586
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,359
because I want them on. It's just it's not gonna

587
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,559
help anything. But it just made me feel a little better,

588
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,559
you know what you.

589
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: Think about it, Like like just the I mean, look,

590
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:18,039
anybody that walks inside Greg's man cap, there's just so

591
00:33:18,279 --> 00:33:22,599
much stuff and artifacts and stuff hanging on the loss,

592
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,440
like you've walked into like a men you know, museum.

593
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,079
But like what about like around it? I mean tell me,

594
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,640
you know, because once you get up that treacherous road

595
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,519
going up the hill, because this is inside the bank

596
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,759
a national forest.

597
00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, being you know, being a jeeper in Colorado, I've

598
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,519
been up roads that are way worse than that.

599
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm sure you know.

600
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,519
Speaker 4: You're you're hanging off the edge of a cliff looking

601
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:50,680
down a thousand feet back.

602
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: That sucks a lot.

603
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 4: So that road didn't scare me at all. But you're right,

604
00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:58,359
it's remote. He tucked himself back in the woods right there,

605
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,759
and it's really cool. Well, how a lot of these

606
00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:04,119
sites and my wife gives me shit all the time.

607
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:07,880
She's like, you're gonna go camp in somebody's backyard. I'm like, yeah,

608
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:09,960
the buggers are there. That's all I have to do

609
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:13,440
is camp in the backyard, you know. But some of

610
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,920
these places are kind of just on the outside of

611
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,519
rural life.

612
00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 2: You know.

613
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,119
Speaker 4: One of the sights in the New York that was blowing.

614
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:23,480
My mind was like twenty minutes from an Applebee's.

615
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, now we're going to talk about that New

616
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:30,920
York thing. I wanted to talk about that last because

617
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,400
I think that's your most recent thing. Yeah, I want

618
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,840
to do that one last. But I was wandering up

619
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,079
at Greggs. You know, because when you go out on

620
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,960
Gregg's back porch, you're basically looking down a sloping heel

621
00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:48,119
and then it drops off into your typical Alabama holler

622
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:52,360
and it's lush and deep and it goes right off

623
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:57,800
into a creek that comes from inside the Sipsy River

624
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:03,920
basin and inside bankhead fors uh, you know, off the back.

625
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,079
So if you're standing off the back just looking out,

626
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:10,679
you're just looking into nothing for a lot a lot

627
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,360
of acres over there. Yes, I mean you see most

628
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,440
people think, oh man, I'm gonna go there and walk

629
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,000
around and I'm going to go explore and I'm going

630
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:24,000
to see stuff. And the thing is, there's really not

631
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:29,480
that much walkable area right around it. Because when you

632
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:31,639
walk off the back, if you say I'm going to

633
00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:34,920
go down to the creek, uh, you don't just walk

634
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,239
straight down that holland down there I mean you can't.

635
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:41,559
It's too steep, you know down there.

636
00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we uh, I don't know. My dad calls

637
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,400
it bushwagon. When you go off the trail, you're bushwagon.

638
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

639
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 4: A lot of people think that the woods are just

640
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,719
filled with trails. Yeah, we got some game trails here

641
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,840
and there, but it's not like, you know, like you

642
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,800
can't even go walking around at Snell Drove because you

643
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:01,880
had to walk around it and the moss is like

644
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,760
eight inches deep. It's like walking on the on a

645
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,920
what are they bouncy house for with kids? And except

646
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:14,000
underneath all the moss there's sticks and dead trees and

647
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,840
you're tripping on everything. So it's like every step you

648
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,719
take is a planned step, you know, So you're not

649
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:23,440
you're not just walking through the woods. You're like, where

650
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,000
can I put my foot safely?

651
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,599
Speaker 6: Right? And I've had I've had a many times in

652
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:33,000
my fifty five years. I walk a lot more careful

653
00:36:33,039 --> 00:36:35,880
now because with the ground clutter with leaves, you can

654
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,599
step on one stone and you're twenty foot down the hill,

655
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,320
you know, up against a tree. Yeah, and it can

656
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,039
happen quick. So you have to be and and I

657
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:50,440
didn't know this. I was moving some stuff around at

658
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,599
Greggs and he's like, hey, watch out, we have scorpions.

659
00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:54,639
And he's naming off of this stuff and wait a minute,

660
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,280
I'm only like an hour and a half from you,

661
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,079
and y'all have scorpions and yeah.

662
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well that was one of the first times

663
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,960
when I was down in Alabama that you guys told

664
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,400
me to buy snake boots.

665
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: And I'm like, snake boots? What are Yeah?

666
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, I come up to here.

667
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,599
Speaker 2: Like all right, I'll buy some snake boots.

668
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 4: So yeah, and everyone's like, you know, even when we

669
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,320
were in LBL, you know, Koombo grabbed me and was

670
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,960
like watch it, you gotta be real careful stepping over

671
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,559
those logs.

672
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, yeah, you know, so I was.

673
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 4: I'm kind of a green horn still, you know, even

674
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,159
though I've been out to twenty five different places. You know,

675
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,320
it's I'm not always deep deep in the woods, and

676
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:43,039
I'm not always around snakes and scorpions and other venomous creatures.

677
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:46,360
So I'm still a little I'm a newbie, so I

678
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:47,599
got to learn my lesson.

679
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: Well, you didn't know that you didn't know that you

680
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,519
were in the Amazon. You know what I mean of

681
00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:57,960
the south. Alabama has more species of feasts, more species

682
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,840
of salamon. There's more species of than any other state

683
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,119
that in the United States. Uh so, yeah, man, we

684
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:11,599
got some things down here that many'll they'll pop you and.

685
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 4: And yeah, so that is one of the things that

686
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,760
I'm not I'm I'm too naive right now. I need

687
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,280
to learn my lesson a little better because sometimes I'm

688
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,639
not afraid enough, you know, I need to learn to

689
00:38:24,679 --> 00:38:25,920
be a little more cautious.

690
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,599
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, it just comes with it comes with experience.

691
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:35,000
And uh that even now, I don't go to the

692
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:38,719
North End because it's so rocky and there's there's copper

693
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:45,280
heads and rattlesnakes everywhere, and I won't step over a log.

694
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:49,760
I carry one of Gary's spikes snake sticks is what

695
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,679
I call them. And I popped the ground as I'm

696
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:55,760
walking and then I'll scrape on the other side of

697
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,199
the log. And it's been, you know, really cautious. But

698
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:02,800
when you're like Adam were you know, at the l

699
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,679
b A or you're you're in these places, if you

700
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,639
get snake bit it's a long ways to the hospital.

701
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah you're done.

702
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean, yeah, just just driving out of.

703
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 2: L B L is what half an hour?

704
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're you know, in the middle there, and I

705
00:39:18,679 --> 00:39:22,079
don't know where the nearest hospital would be. I don't think. Uh,

706
00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:25,800
I don't even know on the Tennessee side, I don't uh,

707
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,519
I don't think there's one that little town where you turn.

708
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: Remember that military helicopter that buzzed us. Man there them

709
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,719
to lift us out to safety.

710
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 6: If you Yeah, maybe maybe Budd or somebody has a

711
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,639
military radio we don't know about, we could call them in.

712
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,280
But yeah, so I would. Me and Greg were talking

713
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,880
after you left. You and Chris left and Budd and

714
00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:56,840
uh y'all had told us where all you were going.

715
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,960
And I'm like, man, that's that's a dream trip for me,

716
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,599
you know, And I'm down here, so yeah, I'll go ahead.

717
00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 4: That it was so I didn't get a good night's

718
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,599
sleep because I was still caffeinated. And Greg comes in

719
00:40:10,599 --> 00:40:13,119
and wakes me up, and you know, his man cave

720
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,840
is really cool, and I'm glad it has a shower,

721
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,760
but you know, he could but he could definitely use

722
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,519
a maid service. So like, we get up, we take

723
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:26,000
the shower, we get out of there, and then you know,

724
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:28,199
right away we're back on the road again. And I

725
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,880
think right after that, we didn't we go to to Green's,

726
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,000
the Green Farm, Well, we went to oh, we went

727
00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:37,920
to Cumbo's right away.

728
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:38,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.

729
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 6: And and then after y'all left there, we came on

730
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,559
back to Tennessee. So, OK, yeah, when when I when

731
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:47,400
I was talking to Adams, he was seeing sounds. He

732
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:48,559
was he's kind of wired.

733
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was really wired. Yeah.

734
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 4: So yeah, we went out to you know, and just

735
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,519
you know, here I am meeting these legendary people. All

736
00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:00,719
of you guys are just you know, everyone's talking. I

737
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,800
get down to LBL.

738
00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:05,079
Speaker 2: And like you got to meet Bama. You gotta meet Bama. Yeah, really,

739
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:05,719
I'm serious.

740
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 4: You know, I had already met Roger and stuff, and

741
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,000
I'm like, you.

742
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 2: Know, and I'm hanging out with Cumbo. I'm like, how

743
00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:13,440
does this happen?

744
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 4: Like this is like, you know, I get invited to

745
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,199
the VIP table right away.

746
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,079
Speaker 2: This is great. So yeah, so we're over a.

747
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 4: Kumbo's place and he had a lot of audio that

748
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,840
he just wanted to show a lot of things. And

749
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:33,840
his wife, Rebecca, what's his n Sandy Sandy Sandy that's right. Yes,

750
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,559
she was amazing. And she was telling us about the

751
00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:39,639
photos that she took and the crazy glowing stuff in

752
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:42,880
the trees and you know, and all of these things

753
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,880
that like just like, oh, I want to see these things.

754
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,480
I want to stick around for two weeks to hang

755
00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:51,000
out to see this stuff. But we only had a day,

756
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:52,880
you know, so it's like we just we're there for

757
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,639
a day and then we're off again. So but we

758
00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:58,280
did get to go into the woods. Cuombo took us

759
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,920
up to the point. Why we were up there, We're

760
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,280
doing some calls and whatnot. And that was the first

761
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,000
time I'd ever seen red eye glow. So that was

762
00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:09,639
the first for me too. So I've had a lot

763
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:12,440
of little firsts on every trip. I'd like, oh, that's

764
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,400
the first time I've heard a whoop, or first time

765
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,880
I've seen a print, or first time you know, seeing

766
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,840
the structure those kind of things.

767
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: So that was the first time I got yeah, I said,

768
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,559
what about the eye glow?

769
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 4: Well, you know, just Cumbo. Cumbo's very very attentive and

770
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,320
very observant. So she said, look over there, and I'm like,

771
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,239
I turned around, got a glance. He's like, and I'm

772
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,960
like right down at the end of the bush. He goes, yep,

773
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,320
and I'm like, I see it, and it was red

774
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,599
Eye Glow hanging out down there. And we got the

775
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:47,400
thermal out and I think we got a thermal hit

776
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,559
on it as well. I didn't know what it was.

777
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:53,519
But you know, we didn't get any callbacks or any

778
00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:55,639
wood knocks that night. We were a little bummed about that.

779
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,880
But you know, that was the first night I got

780
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:58,719
to see some eyes.

781
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 6: And and when you're hanging out with all of us

782
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,480
or these people he's talking to, Yeah, you do talk

783
00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:08,639
about Bigfoot and boogers and stuff like that. But some

784
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,440
of the life stories were freaking amazing that we heard

785
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,000
that night. Yeah, at Koombo's. You know, some of that

786
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:15,840
we can't tell.

787
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:19,079
Speaker 4: All the musicians, you know, all the things he's done

788
00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:21,079
in his life. Yeah, it's it is amazing.

789
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,159
Speaker 6: So oh, there's some amazing stories. Maybe we can get

790
00:43:24,199 --> 00:43:27,960
him on one night, uh, on my other little channel,

791
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,599
just to tell some of the things he can tell,

792
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,719
you know, uh uh. Anyway, we won't get into that.

793
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:35,960
I'll quit interrupted.

794
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: No, no, but.

795
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 6: But that's what I love about this. It's yes, we

796
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,559
are doing you know, going out in the woods and

797
00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:47,360
we're looking for things. But ninety five percent of the

798
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,800
conversations are not about the subject. It's just getting to

799
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,679
know each other and you know, spending time. Greg shut up.

800
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:55,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

801
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 4: I always tell people bigfooting is just like camping, but

802
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:02,440
you just have equipment and you're looking and you're keeping

803
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,199
your eyes open.

804
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:14,679
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, so this whole time, I'm texting with Chris,

805
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:18,400
you know, because one of y'all was posting something on Facebook.

806
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:18,679
Speaker 5: You know.

807
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,519
Speaker 2: The first thing was my first dame. I said, dude,

808
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:25,920
you can't come to Bankhead without going hiking, you know,

809
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,679
I go otherwise you're just driving through you know, pine trees,

810
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,400
through the you know, the forest or something like that.

811
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,239
But but I was calling it like the Alabama Booger

812
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,920
Tour or something like that. But I wanted to know

813
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,960
what you thought about, like Flat Rocks Place.

814
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,119
Speaker 4: Or oh yeah, well the next place we got to

815
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:46,559
go to was Creepy Mountain and Mark Green's farm.

816
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:47,159
Speaker 7: Oh.

817
00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:50,159
Speaker 2: I didn't know if y'all actually got to go to that.

818
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So I mean I you know, I set

819
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,159
up a bed in my jeep so I could easily

820
00:44:56,199 --> 00:44:59,480
just park and sleep, and it makes it really convenient.

821
00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: At the wayside dress as well.

822
00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 4: That's how I can drive so long and just like

823
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,559
just park whenever I'm tired. But anyways, so I'm sleeping

824
00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:08,119
out in my car and the next morning we wake

825
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:10,639
up and there's these handprints and stuff on my car

826
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,159
at the farm and I'm like, whoa, that's a new thing.

827
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,320
And then we end up going up to creepy mountain,

828
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,719
all of us. And the first thing we do is

829
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,400
once we get past the gate up there, we hear

830
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,719
some sentinels wood knocking, you know, letting everybody know that

831
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,559
we're there. I know, we got up there and I

832
00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:31,920
think Patrick had some sticks thrown at him or something

833
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,719
like that, and Chris was getting some thermal hits, and

834
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,679
we definitely got a couple of wood knocks, and you know, but.

835
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: Like you said, we get up to the lake and it's.

836
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 4: All just hanging out talking and having a good time

837
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:46,000
and getting to know each other and just listening for

838
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,719
something to happen. And we were all doing that and

839
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,239
fifteen feet away, you know, something was drawn on my car.

840
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:58,119
Speaker 2: I might have a picture of it. We bring this up.

841
00:45:59,039 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so, and just a side note for the

842
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,760
people that will be listening to this later. Most people

843
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,840
in chat know this. But if you think you've heard

844
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,119
Creepy Mountain before, it was in an episode of Finding

845
00:46:11,199 --> 00:46:14,039
Bigfoot where they had gone up there.

846
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:21,199
Speaker 2: All right, So there that's a place for high strangeness,

847
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,280
not just not just Bigfoot things.

848
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, so come to if you just pop

849
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,119
up that other screen now.

850
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: You can look at this.

851
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 6: It's gone.

852
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 2: It's gone. I can log it in again.

853
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 4: Hang all right, we'll make the technical stuff happen, don't.

854
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 6: I don't know if it timed out or not.

855
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 2: Here we go, see Adam, he's gonna know how to

856
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:50,880
make it fill up the whole screen everything, all right. Here,

857
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,880
I got two computers. I'm trying to run here.

858
00:46:54,480 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna share my screen share a screen,

859
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:03,960
whole screen, nothing but the screen share.

860
00:47:04,679 --> 00:47:06,639
Speaker 2: All right, you should be able to have I should

861
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:07,400
be back in again.

862
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 6: There you go.

863
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: All right.

864
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 4: So this this this image right here, I'm gonna hide

865
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,239
this one right now for now. This one here was

866
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,559
just like I walk back to the car after we're

867
00:47:17,559 --> 00:47:20,760
all sitting around Creepy Mountain and this is on my window.

868
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,159
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is, like, you know, like

869
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,119
none of us did it.

870
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 4: You can see how dirty the cars get just driving

871
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,360
up the mountain. And then they did this, or I

872
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,280
won't say they. I don't know who did it, but

873
00:47:34,679 --> 00:47:37,199
it's like three birds. I've never seen that before, and

874
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,760
I've told people about it and they're like, oh, yeah,

875
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,960
I've seen that exact same thing, and I'm like, wow,

876
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:42,880
that's kind of cool.

877
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 6: Wow, it looks like it looks like a thumb print.

878
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,159
I mean, even on the other one, it looks like

879
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:50,400
a partial thumb print.

880
00:47:50,679 --> 00:47:55,119
Speaker 4: Also, yeah, it does look like there's a little something

881
00:47:55,159 --> 00:47:57,480
some here, but I see one, two, three, four streaks

882
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,800
and maybe a thumb over here. Maybe that's a hand

883
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:03,320
and there's a palm something. I don't know, but you

884
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,119
can see my dirty, my dirty fingerprints left over here.

885
00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:10,679
Speaker 2: But they that was fresh. I mean I just walked

886
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:14,320
over to my car and that had happened. Which one

887
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,119
was square on the coat? Which one was square? No?

888
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 6: Where was that? Was that? Like a side window? Yeah?

889
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:24,639
Speaker 2: Side window?

890
00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:27,559
Speaker 6: And what about the second one?

891
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 2: Let me take a look.

892
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 4: The streaks were the side window and this I believe

893
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:37,280
was the side window as well. The so maybe on

894
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,039
the other side.

895
00:48:39,199 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: So still both sides of the vehicle.

896
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh okay, yeah, and the vehicle was parked, you know,

897
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,840
ten fifteen feet away from us while we're hanging out

898
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:51,280
of the lake.

899
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,679
Speaker 6: I don't know, So would it be on the opposite

900
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,320
side of you guys where this was?

901
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: That?

902
00:48:57,159 --> 00:48:57,519
Speaker 6: Okay?

903
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,599
Speaker 4: So well, I won't say opposite. It was like off

904
00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:02,519
to our right as we were looking at the lake.

905
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:04,119
Speaker 2: So we're all.

906
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 4: Facing the lake, you know, hanging out by the water,

907
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,639
and the cars were kind of parked behind us and.

908
00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:11,119
Speaker 2: Off to the side because we had three or four

909
00:49:11,199 --> 00:49:11,960
vehicles up there.

910
00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:15,079
Speaker 6: So what is that smudge up above that?

911
00:49:16,519 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: Oh dude, I had.

912
00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 4: What I've learned is I take a bottle of Windex

913
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,119
with me now, and before I go to sleep, I

914
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,039
windox my windows.

915
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:30,199
Speaker 2: We told people that I've told people to do that, Yeah,

916
00:49:30,199 --> 00:49:34,079
because I've told them. I've said, it is so easy

917
00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:41,760
to fingerprint something. I've taken tens of thousands of prints,

918
00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:45,840
and man, I could I could almost print something with

919
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,320
some charcoal, you know, if I was camping or something,

920
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,679
at least get a good enough print. Yep. But yeah,

921
00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:56,079
I told people thought I was weird one time because

922
00:49:56,119 --> 00:49:59,440
I go, oh, I've done door in my door handles

923
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:04,159
and the wind those and everything, so you know, just yeah,

924
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,639
that's that's interesting.

925
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 4: This is this is I popped a drone up the

926
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,199
Flat Rocks place. This is what it looks like. I mean,

927
00:50:13,679 --> 00:50:17,039
Alabama is a beautiful place. I mean, this is amazing.

928
00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:21,800
And you know there's just so much woods, you.

929
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,519
Speaker 2: Know, and something that that's a great shot if you

930
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:30,079
if you see those big open areas, especially that when

931
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:34,760
when it first started over to the right, people will

932
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,199
understand that you have all these hard woods. But the

933
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,840
timber industry is big, huge, is huge down here, so

934
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,159
a lot of those will be cut over. They cut

935
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:46,639
all that like that over there has been cut over

936
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,800
and it's growing back in small pine saplings now. So

937
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:56,000
for wildlife purposes, that's like a desert. No birds lives

938
00:50:56,079 --> 00:51:00,280
in there, no wildlife, no squirrels, nothing like that. It

939
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,639
makes a good wind break though, and a place for

940
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,119
things to have, like be your boogers or whatever.

941
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,119
Speaker 6: Is this directly behind flat Rocks House.

942
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically yeah, that's really really wooded.

943
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, so when people think, you know, yeah, i mean

944
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,400
flat Rock is probably what fifteen minutes away from a

945
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:25,960
grocery store, you know, something like that. But he lives

946
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,360
out in the middle of nowhere too, you know, you know,

947
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,280
we all so we A lot of these places are

948
00:51:31,519 --> 00:51:34,800
not hard to get to, but they back up to

949
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,559
these huge vast areas of woods and there's stuff living

950
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:39,159
out there, you know.

951
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 6: And that's that's a good point because a lot of

952
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,360
people they'll look on a map and it's hard. It's

953
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,519
hard to look at Google Earth. You can see it

954
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,440
and you're like, well, there's woods here, but that a

955
00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:55,519
shot like that shows how much how far it goes,

956
00:51:55,559 --> 00:51:58,920
and on creepy mountain, I think I looked it up.

957
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,440
I saw a video that Mark had done, Mark Green

958
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,000
had done and they had drove up and did a

959
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:10,000
little bit of you know, filming, and they were overlooking.

960
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,679
He did just kind of a pan overlooking the forest.

961
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,880
And I got on there and it's it's amazing how

962
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:23,599
big it is. And people I laugh at this, And look,

963
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:26,000
I don't laugh at many people, because we have people

964
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,559
that's been curious for three days and they ask all

965
00:52:29,559 --> 00:52:33,480
the same questions and they're like, where do they hide? Man,

966
00:52:33,679 --> 00:52:38,840
they've got oh man, it's just it's a it's hilarious,

967
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,639
and I don't, you know, I don't laugh at them.

968
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,199
I'm like, look you until you get out there like

969
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:48,159
Adam's doing and see this, see these places, and then

970
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,199
then look at the map and think, oh my god,

971
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:55,079
it's it's they're miles. It's miles to the next house

972
00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:58,679
or the next town. And you have the water and

973
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,719
the rivers and the bridges, and you know, and maybe

974
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,599
caves in certain areas like our area.

975
00:53:05,199 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: Yep.

976
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 6: And I myself, turkey hunting years ago, would set steel

977
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,199
because you're full camo. And I had a guy that

978
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,199
hunted the other property and I would sit still and

979
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,039
he would come by me on a four wheeler and

980
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:24,039
he never all the times he came up there, he

981
00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:28,280
never knew I was there. So something that's great at

982
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,199
this and you're in their living room. They're good, they

983
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,639
know they they I mean, I'll get off on that.

984
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,159
You walk right, pat, they'll let you.

985
00:53:36,679 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 4: Speaking of that, So this this is the house in

986
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,239
Georgetown where you know I was out in Colorado.

987
00:53:42,519 --> 00:53:44,199
Speaker 2: You probably sell the Facebook posts.

988
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,639
Speaker 4: This is my dad's second house in Colorado and we

989
00:53:49,639 --> 00:53:53,039
we use it as a family guesthouse. And this is

990
00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:56,880
the porch. This is our porch. Look at that big boy.

991
00:53:57,519 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

992
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,559
Speaker 4: And then the next day. Right the next day, my

993
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,920
dad sends me this picture. He's like, oh, yeah, well

994
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,039
I don't have a bear on my porch, but I

995
00:54:10,039 --> 00:54:14,199
have a moose on my porch, right. And then another

996
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,559
guy in town posts this on the Facebook group.

997
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: He's like, oh yeah, I got you both beat here.

998
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,239
Let's see, I got a big.

999
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 4: Mountain lion on my own. So you're hanging out into town,

1000
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,119
you're in town, and all of this wildlife is literally

1001
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:35,039
just popping in at night and you don't even know it.

1002
00:54:35,679 --> 00:54:37,239
If you're right on the edge of the woods, you

1003
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,599
don't even know what's going on. And you know the

1004
00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:41,719
security cams are catching all this stuff now.

1005
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 6: And that's that's a good point, Adam. Just because you

1006
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,360
don't see it doesn't mean it's not there, because we

1007
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,360
we all. I mean, I'm sure when we were kids,

1008
00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:56,880
our ages we were we were out in the woods

1009
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,000
at night, we were doing things and rambling all the time.

1010
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,239
But now I'm guilty of it. I'll just be at

1011
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:09,360
home at eight o'clock than not. And but there's something.

1012
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:15,840
I've lived in this neighborhood for twenty years, and everybody

1013
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,079
on this street or house dwellers, I barely see my

1014
00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:22,639
neighbors out and then they'll be the first ones. Well,

1015
00:55:22,639 --> 00:55:25,679
I've never seen nothing. Will you never go outside? You

1016
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:26,480
know exactly?

1017
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,599
Speaker 4: You know, Chris said it. Chris says it's the best.

1018
00:55:29,679 --> 00:55:30,679
Speaker 2: He's like, get out the woods.

1019
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, that's that's what you gotta do.

1020
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,880
Get out in the woods. Speaking of getting out of

1021
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,920
the woods, Okay, before I got my first tepee expedition,

1022
00:55:39,559 --> 00:55:42,199
I was testing some cameras up in a site in

1023
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:46,679
northern Minnesota, right and we put these cameras up. The

1024
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,599
landowner let us have them up there for eight months.

1025
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,199
And these things were on twenty four to seven for

1026
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,920
eight months. And the very first night I was out

1027
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,440
there putting the cameras up, Doug Hichek was monitoring them,

1028
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,559
and I was exhausted. So I climbed to my tent

1029
00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:02,320
and went to sleep because I knew I had to

1030
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,559
get up the next morning and keep working on the cameras.

1031
00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:07,400
Doug calls me and my phone is my bringers off.

1032
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,320
He calls me the next morning he's like, don't erase

1033
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,320
the cards, don't erase the cameras. I'm like, what, he goes,

1034
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,239
I'll tell you later. So finally I get a hold

1035
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,920
of him. He's like, I saw three bigfoot walk past

1036
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,639
the camera last night. You got him the first night,

1037
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,119
and I'm like, whooo, we went back. That's the one

1038
00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:26,440
camera that malfunctioned. That's the one camera that didn't record

1039
00:56:26,519 --> 00:56:26,920
that night.

1040
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 6: Oh my god.

1041
00:56:28,679 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm just like whatever, But we did have

1042
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,039
a weird anomaly that was caught on the on this

1043
00:56:34,159 --> 00:56:38,119
exact camera that you're looking at right, and the landowner

1044
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,719
posted it on Facebook.

1045
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 2: And what's really.

1046
00:56:41,519 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 4: Interesting is the next night and other people have heard

1047
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,760
this story, but no one's seen the video yet because

1048
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:47,800
I just found it today.

1049
00:56:48,199 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 2: But I've talked about.

1050
00:56:50,519 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 4: Somebody sending in drones, right, So check this out.

1051
00:56:55,159 --> 00:56:57,599
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play this. Did you see that?

1052
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,639
Speaker 6: I saw the movement on the leaves.

1053
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,199
Speaker 4: Exactly, and that's what triggered my eyes too.

1054
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:07,639
Speaker 2: So I'm just going.

1055
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,119
Speaker 6: There coming down yep.

1056
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 4: So at one thirty at night, I have to figure

1057
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,000
out there we go. So one thirty at night, I

1058
00:57:18,039 --> 00:57:22,079
saw this and you can see the down draft right right,

1059
00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:25,280
and you can see something fly through the screen right there.

1060
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 2: Do you see that?

1061
00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1062
00:57:27,519 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's it's hard to see, but you can

1063
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,519
see the downdraft happen. And I'm like, the only thing

1064
00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:35,320
that I know that creates a down draft is a

1065
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,679
drone because birds don't create downdraft. Bugs are you know?

1066
00:57:40,039 --> 00:57:42,880
Bats don't create downdraft. That's a down draft. You see

1067
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:47,159
the whole leaf shake. Well, the next night, same thing

1068
00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:49,519
happens two thirty am.

1069
00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:51,679
Speaker 2: This one's a little.

1070
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 4: Bit easier to see though, too, because it really the

1071
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,719
downdraft really took over. I gotta reach around here, okay,

1072
00:57:58,239 --> 00:58:02,119
so you can see that. Here's the downdraft again, and

1073
00:58:02,159 --> 00:58:05,440
it's the same path. It's a little higher. Let me

1074
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,599
see if I can do it back and forth. But

1075
00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:11,920
you can see the downdraft happen and the leaves behind

1076
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:12,400
there too.

1077
00:58:13,079 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: See how the whole path shakes.

1078
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,679
Speaker 6: It's actually moving the limbs, and I know, the small lambs.

1079
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,400
But that's yeah.

1080
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 4: And I was able to freeze frame it on one

1081
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:23,000
of these frames.

1082
00:58:23,079 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 2: Right there.

1083
00:58:24,159 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 4: You can see the kind of the shape of the

1084
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,519
drone and the four the four propellers there right there.

1085
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:31,239
Speaker 2: Yep.

1086
00:58:31,679 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 4: See that Who the hell is flying a drone through

1087
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,880
a heavily wooded space in the middle of the night.

1088
00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:44,719
Speaker 2: If you notice when it passes and does the obvious

1089
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:49,159
movement on those leaves. It actually dips down in a

1090
00:58:49,159 --> 00:58:53,760
low arc and actually causes movement on the other leaves

1091
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,079
back behind it, you know, along the ground. So you

1092
00:58:58,119 --> 00:59:03,599
know it's an even fly, a drone like that. I had.

1093
00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, and and all right, let's let's let's walk

1094
00:59:07,039 --> 00:59:07,320
through this.

1095
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: I got to watch it again.

1096
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:16,199
Speaker 6: Is there anything natural big enough with down forest that

1097
00:59:16,239 --> 00:59:17,360
could possibly do that?

1098
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:19,679
Speaker 2: Well, there's a backstory here that I'll tell you too.

1099
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:24,719
Speaker 4: Okay, two weeks before this event took place, I got

1100
00:59:24,719 --> 00:59:28,760
a call from the landowner and his neighbor asked him

1101
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,280
to go canoeing with him because he canoes up the.

1102
00:59:32,239 --> 00:59:33,119
Speaker 2: River right there.

1103
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 4: Like, there's a river right across the street from this land.

1104
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:38,039
Everybody has forty acres, so when I say right across

1105
00:59:38,039 --> 00:59:42,679
the street, it's several acres away. But basically, he said

1106
00:59:42,719 --> 00:59:45,039
he was too busy, so he got another friend. His

1107
00:59:45,039 --> 00:59:47,400
friend gets in the back of the canoe, they go up,

1108
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,440
They paddle upstream a little bit. He's on his way

1109
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,719
to a secret bigfoot spot, right he is. He's also

1110
00:59:51,719 --> 00:59:54,199
a big foot. Of the neighbor is too, and he

1111
00:59:54,519 --> 00:59:57,159
tells the guy jump out of the canoe, sit on

1112
00:59:57,199 --> 01:00:00,480
the bank, watch with the thermal. I think I'm being

1113
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:05,519
followed up the river, right, Yeah, very interesting. But the

1114
01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:08,599
interesting part is the guy actually has the thermal out

1115
01:00:09,079 --> 01:00:12,960
and he sees a drone following the canoe up the river,

1116
01:00:14,639 --> 01:00:16,559
and then all of a sudden, we get this drone

1117
01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:20,639
footage on our security camera. Now you're ready for the

1118
01:00:20,719 --> 01:00:26,079
craziest part. I went, I went out. I buy all

1119
01:00:26,159 --> 01:00:30,039
my cards at the same computer shop and they're all labeled.

1120
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,599
They're all store brand, right, So I have all of

1121
01:00:33,639 --> 01:00:35,920
my cards that are the same brand, and I go

1122
01:00:36,039 --> 01:00:38,760
up to this place and I retrieve the camera and

1123
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,360
the card is empty. But it's not my brand of card.

1124
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,639
Somebody went on private property, went to this camera, retrieved

1125
01:00:47,679 --> 01:00:50,800
this drone footage. Now I got this out of the cloud.

1126
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:52,760
I was going to try to get it right off

1127
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:53,880
the camera, but this came.

1128
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: From the cloud.

1129
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,039
Speaker 4: Which is why these cameras, the security cameras are great

1130
01:00:57,039 --> 01:01:00,920
because you get cloud footage and local SD footag. So

1131
01:01:01,039 --> 01:01:04,079
the point is, somebody went and stole my ST card

1132
01:01:04,159 --> 01:01:08,320
and put a fake another ST card inside this camera, Like,

1133
01:01:08,519 --> 01:01:09,440
what's up with that?

1134
01:01:10,519 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 6: So, so are we thinking that somebody knows these things

1135
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,519
are there and keeping an eye on them, or they

1136
01:01:20,639 --> 01:01:21,360
keep an eye on you.

1137
01:01:22,519 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: Well.

1138
01:01:23,159 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 4: Oh so the other weird thing that happened was previous

1139
01:01:26,039 --> 01:01:30,079
a little earlier in the season, right, The landowner had

1140
01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:33,039
another bigfoot research team up there, and they actually saw

1141
01:01:33,119 --> 01:01:36,920
one cross the field and jump a fence on his property, right,

1142
01:01:38,519 --> 01:01:41,239
So they circled it on Google Earth where it happened.

1143
01:01:41,719 --> 01:01:46,079
They emailed it to Doug Hicheck, and twenty minutes later,

1144
01:01:46,719 --> 01:01:50,920
a plane was left from the local airport flew directly

1145
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:55,159
around their property, did low altitude loops. The owner was

1146
01:01:55,199 --> 01:01:58,000
able to get the tail numbers, and I actually looked

1147
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,519
it up myself and I saw the flight path.

1148
01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 2: The plane went.

1149
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,719
Speaker 4: Directly over his property, did a couple of loops, and

1150
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,440
went right back to the airport.

1151
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 2: So, I don't know, you tell me.

1152
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,519
Speaker 4: I think there's somebody watching this property pretty heavily.

1153
01:02:13,599 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 6: So, and I'm assuming that the landowner and the neighbor

1154
01:02:18,519 --> 01:02:22,320
got into bigfooting because they're dealing with the bigfoot right.

1155
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 4: Absolutely, wow, several of them. I mean I think they've

1156
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,800
he's seen I want to say he's seen bigfoot fifteen

1157
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:33,000
to twenty times on his property and his his you know,

1158
01:02:33,519 --> 01:02:37,199
his kids, his grandkids have, his kids have is you know,

1159
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,519
it's like and a lot of the researchers that go

1160
01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:41,679
up there see it too, and I'm like, dude, invite

1161
01:02:41,679 --> 01:02:42,440
me up more often.

1162
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:49,119
Speaker 6: And that just you know, that just blows your mind.

1163
01:02:49,559 --> 01:02:50,119
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1164
01:02:50,519 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 6: That, and we we know there's a military base across

1165
01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:01,159
the water from LBL or whatever, and they definitely keep

1166
01:03:01,159 --> 01:03:02,840
an eye on us. I don't know if it's for

1167
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,480
our safety or or whatever, but you know, Adam mentioned

1168
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,039
the one flower every time we go. I mean we

1169
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:13,840
this last time I was there, you know, five days maybe,

1170
01:03:14,599 --> 01:03:17,920
and the helicopters and there they were having controled birds,

1171
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,440
but they weren't going over there. They were circling over

1172
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,920
top of us. Okay, why is that?

1173
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,199
Speaker 2: I'm gonna that this place where you know you were

1174
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:32,000
you called the drone video and stuff like that. Uh

1175
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:34,440
did you say what state.

1176
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,199
Speaker 4: That was in Minnesota?

1177
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:39,239
Speaker 2: Is this the same place where you lived in a

1178
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,920
cheap for a month. No.

1179
01:03:43,159 --> 01:03:45,239
Speaker 4: I asked the landowner if I could live in my

1180
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,039
TV at his property for a month and he's like, Nope,

1181
01:03:48,119 --> 01:03:52,239
not gonna happen. Yeah, He'll let me bring a tent

1182
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,719
up and stay a couple of nights, but and hopefully

1183
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,800
I'll do that next summer. This summer, I was just

1184
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:01,239
too busy, So super nice guy. You know, really fun property.

1185
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,039
A lot of people have been up there seeing Bigfoot,

1186
01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:04,960
and I'm just like, all right, I gotta make it happen.

1187
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 2: What's your man, what's your what's your goal? I mean,

1188
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:15,920
what's good? I mean that that place sounds like it's

1189
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,800
almost as hot as it gets. But it's like if

1190
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:24,000
you go there and say, what's the what's the whole goal.

1191
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 4: That particular property, the landowner has has gone deep into

1192
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:33,159
the high strangeness and he's they've told him with mind

1193
01:04:33,199 --> 01:04:35,800
speak that they don't want to be filmed. So he

1194
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,960
told them that he wouldn't put cameras up and he

1195
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,320
wouldn't allow people to record.

1196
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 2: So he has a strict no technology policy.

1197
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 4: So if I go up to that land with a tent,

1198
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,960
that's all I can bring is a tent, And my

1199
01:04:48,079 --> 01:04:51,800
whole thing would just to be experienced, to see them

1200
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,440
and possibly have mine speak with them. So that's that's

1201
01:04:56,519 --> 01:04:59,280
the goal for that property. That would just be a

1202
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,119
personal experien and so I wouldn't be able to share

1203
01:05:01,159 --> 01:05:03,360
any data.

1204
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 6: So that that's and you kind of understand. I mean

1205
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:11,599
like I can understand his point of point of view,

1206
01:05:11,639 --> 01:05:14,519
and because like I said, he he has to live

1207
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:18,079
with him. What are we looking at here?

1208
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 4: This is my third expedition in a mining camp in Colorado,

1209
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,559
and it was my first time goofing around with my

1210
01:05:25,719 --> 01:05:29,079
cheap thermal. But do you see something in the images here?

1211
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,199
Speaker 6: It looks like it's peeking out behind a tree.

1212
01:05:33,639 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a humanoid. Looks humanoid. It looks like

1213
01:05:37,039 --> 01:05:41,280
it's kind of moving, doesn't it. Black Greg House says,

1214
01:05:42,119 --> 01:05:44,280
I'm going to go get rid of this stuff. I've

1215
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,360
been drinking. I'll be back all right.

1216
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 4: So the crazy thing is, even though I get evidence,

1217
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,719
I don't like to share it very much because I

1218
01:05:54,719 --> 01:05:57,039
don't consider it good evidence. I'm like, I don't know

1219
01:05:57,039 --> 01:05:59,400
what that is. I can't prove anything, right, you know,

1220
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,480
I can't prove that those are drones in there.

1221
01:06:01,519 --> 01:06:02,719
Speaker 2: That image is too blurry.

1222
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,599
Speaker 4: But I can say, yeah, there's a down draft, and

1223
01:06:05,639 --> 01:06:09,280
nothing else I know causes a down draft. Here's the

1224
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,920
here's the teepee one. So when I was up doing

1225
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,239
the teepee thing, right, I got something that I well,

1226
01:06:16,239 --> 01:06:16,960
I think that I.

1227
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 2: Just call eye shine.

1228
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,559
Speaker 4: So watch the left of the screen. You'll see a

1229
01:06:19,639 --> 01:06:20,760
very bright light come.

1230
01:06:20,639 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 2: On right there. See it.

1231
01:06:24,599 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 4: See that light come on right there? Okay, that is

1232
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:31,079
and that's an that's what I think was an eye

1233
01:06:31,079 --> 01:06:32,679
because we went out there the next day and found

1234
01:06:32,719 --> 01:06:35,039
footprints next to the tree. So i'll play this in

1235
01:06:35,079 --> 01:06:36,920
real time here, but you'll see it kind of open

1236
01:06:37,719 --> 01:06:40,480
and you'll see eye shine, and it's just standing there.

1237
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,760
It gets brighter and dimmer, and then it moves away.

1238
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:44,159
Speaker 2: See that.

1239
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 6: Yes, And there's no there's no, I mean, there's nothing.

1240
01:06:52,159 --> 01:06:54,159
Was it a full moon or a good a good

1241
01:06:54,199 --> 01:06:55,480
bright moon out.

1242
01:06:55,679 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 2: But not this night. No, there was other nights it

1243
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,719
was really bright. So you can see that.

1244
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 4: It's just it opens slowly and it closes slowly, you know,

1245
01:07:06,239 --> 01:07:08,679
And it's just it's peeking out from behind a tree.

1246
01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:12,400
Is this good evidence? No, it's horrible. Evidence doesn't prove anything.

1247
01:07:13,039 --> 01:07:16,199
Speaker 2: You know. Some dude with a flashlight could be back there,

1248
01:07:16,719 --> 01:07:16,920
you know.

1249
01:07:17,199 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 4: But I mean, I'm twelve, I'm twelve to fifteen miles

1250
01:07:20,519 --> 01:07:23,079
away from the nearest human. I'm like, why is somebody

1251
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:24,079
goofing around like that?

1252
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:24,519
Speaker 2: You know?

1253
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 6: Right, So is that on another ridge that looks like

1254
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,559
it's on the side of another heel. If it's that

1255
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:31,559
real close to.

1256
01:07:31,559 --> 01:07:35,119
Speaker 4: You, that's a time shot of the same area. So

1257
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:39,760
that's that happened right in these trees right here where.

1258
01:07:39,679 --> 01:07:40,559
Speaker 2: Next to my tepee.

1259
01:07:41,239 --> 01:07:47,079
Speaker 6: Okay, that makes that so go back to it, please, Okay,

1260
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:48,880
I want to check something.

1261
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:54,599
Speaker 2: Ye see the tepee there? Okay, you can see a

1262
01:07:54,639 --> 01:07:56,000
white thing right here.

1263
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,199
Speaker 4: That is a garbage bag that I tied to a tree,

1264
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:02,119
and that is almost five feet off the ground.

1265
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,199
Speaker 2: Okay, So that gives.

1266
01:08:04,039 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 4: You a little bit of reference. So if you look

1267
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,679
at where the eye shine is right there, that's at

1268
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,599
least double that. It's like nine ten foot eye shine

1269
01:08:12,679 --> 01:08:13,119
right there.

1270
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:17,279
Speaker 2: See that.

1271
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:22,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's not really moving like an.

1272
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:26,239
Speaker 4: Orb so nope, nope, it was stationary. And then I

1273
01:08:26,279 --> 01:08:28,239
got I got another shot, you know, and I just

1274
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:31,159
kind of snuck through all my footage and found all

1275
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:32,000
these little shots.

1276
01:08:32,039 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 2: I still have to go through a bunch of these.

1277
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 6: And from that angle you can roll out a star

1278
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,520
or planet immediately. Yeah.

1279
01:08:39,319 --> 01:08:41,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you found way too.

1280
01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 4: Low is only nine feet off the ground. This is

1281
01:08:44,119 --> 01:08:47,119
the track that we found in the marsh. Which was

1282
01:08:47,159 --> 01:08:49,479
really cool. You can see it right there. It's hard

1283
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,359
to see on camera, but once I start pouring the mold,

1284
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:53,600
you can see it take shape.

1285
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 2: Here. So that's me casting my first cast ever.

1286
01:08:57,079 --> 01:08:59,359
Speaker 4: And you can see that looks like a foot and

1287
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,359
there's some there's some toes right up there. And the

1288
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:04,479
one mistake I made that I'm going to tell everybody

1289
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:08,439
else bring multiple bags of casting material because this was

1290
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,199
three or four inches deep. So when I poured all

1291
01:09:12,279 --> 01:09:14,920
the casting material in there, I still didn't get the

1292
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,079
toes because they were a couple of inches higher. So

1293
01:09:18,199 --> 01:09:21,159
all of these little toes that I did capture broke off.

1294
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,640
So bring lots of casting material.

1295
01:09:25,039 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 6: And that was real close to where the light was seen, right.

1296
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:32,279
Speaker 4: This is about okay, So the light was fifteen feet

1297
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:34,840
behind the tepee and this is twenty feet on.

1298
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,520
Speaker 2: The other side of the tpe in the mark.

1299
01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so and that's the cast I got out.

1300
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,359
Speaker 2: You know, it looks kind of.

1301
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:45,359
Speaker 4: Like a foot, you know.

1302
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:51,319
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a good evidence that is what most

1303
01:09:52,279 --> 01:09:56,039
cast that people make look like. I mean, you know,

1304
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,760
I got lucky to you know, my first real track

1305
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,079
where you don't have toes and just you know, toes

1306
01:10:04,199 --> 01:10:07,800
playing and everything. But that's really what most casts end

1307
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,560
up looking like when you cast. And that's the thing

1308
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,760
is like the video and the cast that you took.

1309
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:19,800
You know, those may not be quote quote proof to anybody,

1310
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:27,520
but to you, corroborating everything together, you know, that solidifies

1311
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:33,199
things for you. You know, yeah, at then you're not

1312
01:10:33,239 --> 01:10:36,439
going to be able to prove anything to anybody. I'm

1313
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,079
sorry to tell you that exactly.

1314
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 6: That, but that's the thing.

1315
01:10:40,239 --> 01:10:40,399
Speaker 2: Uh.

1316
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 6: You know, we talked about tracks being so rare, and

1317
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:48,039
that's the way. Every now and then you get some

1318
01:10:48,199 --> 01:10:51,520
really great ones in the right material, but most of

1319
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:56,720
them are like that right there, and so you go,

1320
01:10:57,319 --> 01:10:59,279
what could have made that track? And you roll out

1321
01:10:59,319 --> 01:11:03,159
a ton of things. So it's actually good Window said,

1322
01:11:03,199 --> 01:11:06,880
that's actually good evidence. I think so too. Uh good

1323
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:12,079
job of video and pouring the you know whatever that is.

1324
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, centric centrical.

1325
01:11:16,079 --> 01:11:18,199
Speaker 4: I think that's the name of that stuff that you

1326
01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:21,600
want to buy, the fast, the fast trying stuff. So

1327
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:26,439
this picture is a Snell grove in the morning, So

1328
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,000
for those of you who want to go up there,

1329
01:11:28,079 --> 01:11:29,119
it is gorgeous.

1330
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1331
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 6: And then uh so how does it how does it feel?

1332
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,600
I want to know the feeling because I think Bama,

1333
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,760
he dicted. He gets into this stuff too. You're up

1334
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,600
there with no escape route. You know, you got electricity

1335
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:51,319
with the generator, and how scary is it being in

1336
01:11:51,319 --> 01:11:52,039
that situation.

1337
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,039
Speaker 4: There's two ways I feel about it, right, because like,

1338
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,399
let's see if I got the So here's here's Snell

1339
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,199
Grove on the second trip, right.

1340
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 2: You got wildlife literally walking on your porch right. This

1341
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:16,279
is the Snell Grove cabin right here. So it's it's fun.

1342
01:12:16,319 --> 01:12:17,600
You were really close to nature.

1343
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 4: We had otters, we had seagulls, we had bears, we

1344
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:22,039
had all sorts of stuff going on.

1345
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 2: So it's fun.

1346
01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 4: So that stuff doesn't really freak me out, but you

1347
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,039
know what, it could be dangerous.

1348
01:12:29,199 --> 01:12:39,279
Speaker 2: I don't know. This Snail Grove is this natural park

1349
01:12:39,319 --> 01:12:42,439
at this private property? Like that cabin there is it?

1350
01:12:43,119 --> 01:12:46,520
You know? Is it somebody's cabin? Do you go there

1351
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:51,119
because it's a bigfoot hot spot or yeah, Doug discovered it.

1352
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,520
Speaker 4: He'd been going there for years and then he's done

1353
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,880
a couple of Monster Quest episodes up there as well,

1354
01:12:57,239 --> 01:12:59,399
and so that's kind of one of the legendary bigfoot

1355
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,119
spots that a lot of people want to go to.

1356
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,319
It is a cabin that you can rent from an

1357
01:13:04,319 --> 01:13:05,600
outfitter in Canada.

1358
01:13:06,119 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 2: It is extremely remote.

1359
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 6: Matter of fact, you have to get the fly in,

1360
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:11,239
don't you.

1361
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, so fly and people would go there to hunt

1362
01:13:14,199 --> 01:13:17,119
and fish. Really it would be.

1363
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,319
Speaker 4: Not even hunt because you can't even walk around. And

1364
01:13:20,399 --> 01:13:22,159
I don't think they want you shooting the moose and

1365
01:13:22,199 --> 01:13:24,119
the other stuff up there. So you got to get

1366
01:13:24,159 --> 01:13:27,000
your fishing license and it's just for fishing. But this

1367
01:13:27,119 --> 01:13:29,199
is where this is where you go. You start off

1368
01:13:29,199 --> 01:13:32,319
at the outfitters right there, and then you walk to

1369
01:13:32,359 --> 01:13:33,680
the end of the dock and you get.

1370
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,039
Speaker 2: On one of their fifteen floatplanes and.

1371
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 4: They have cabins all over these lakes and the only

1372
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,680
cabin on that entire Snow Grove Lake is that one cabin.

1373
01:13:44,279 --> 01:13:48,600
You are literally you fly forty five minutes over trees

1374
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,000
and lakes and trees and lakes and trees and lakes,

1375
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,119
and then you land in a lake and you get

1376
01:13:53,159 --> 01:13:57,640
out and you're miles and miles away from other humans.

1377
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 6: So Bama. You remember Monster Quest episode where Doctor Meldrim,

1378
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,399
they they had the they had a wooden board with

1379
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,920
screws in it and they found the blood. They had

1380
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,039
it set sitting outside the door, and when they came back.

1381
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,039
Speaker 2: They had they had the they had the screws up

1382
01:14:14,039 --> 01:14:17,319
to the board keeping bears and grizzlies and stuff from

1383
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:21,359
coming coming up. Yeah, I think I remember that where

1384
01:14:21,399 --> 01:14:25,039
something had stepped onto one of the boards.

1385
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:32,359
Speaker 6: And well when doctor Meldram took his sharpie and they

1386
01:14:32,399 --> 01:14:36,680
went around the ones that had meat and blood and

1387
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,800
hair on them, and went around and when he got

1388
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,319
finished drawing, it looked like that track Adam just cast.

1389
01:14:42,399 --> 01:14:44,520
It basically had the same shape to it.

1390
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,399
Speaker 2: How did how did if Adam, if you know this,

1391
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:55,720
how did somebody begin thinking or knowing that something was

1392
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,000
going on at this at this cabin? I need to,

1393
01:14:59,119 --> 01:15:02,279
Like I'm gonn research in his cabin and watching some

1394
01:15:02,399 --> 01:15:03,800
videos about this cabin.

1395
01:15:05,199 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 4: Well, I think Doug Hichek is the one who found it.

1396
01:15:08,239 --> 01:15:11,079
He'd been going up there fishing for years and then

1397
01:15:11,159 --> 01:15:13,840
something happened and he just realized that it's got to

1398
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,199
be bigfit activity up there, so he brought researchers up there.

1399
01:15:17,239 --> 01:15:20,239
And you know, I when we were there, we had

1400
01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:23,439
a whole bunch of stuff happen. We had acorns being

1401
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:24,279
thrown over the.

1402
01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:25,199
Speaker 2: Outhouse at us.

1403
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:30,119
Speaker 4: We had trees being shaken, we had house slaps, a

1404
01:15:30,159 --> 01:15:34,079
really big house slap that shook the cabin. We had

1405
01:15:34,199 --> 01:15:37,880
rocks being thrown at our cameras. And then this is

1406
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,239
a panoramic of that same cabin at the lake there.

1407
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 2: So I'll get that into it.

1408
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really beautiful. It's a great place to go. Oh,

1409
01:15:46,279 --> 01:15:47,079
I'm going to show.

1410
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 2: This for Bud. Bud was up there with us.

1411
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:52,239
Speaker 4: Bud put his trail, came out and he caught bald eagles.

1412
01:15:52,279 --> 01:15:54,600
He put fish out for the for squatch, and he

1413
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,520
ended up getting bears and bald eels eating his fighting

1414
01:15:58,560 --> 01:15:59,239
over his fish.

1415
01:15:59,319 --> 01:16:00,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, and.

1416
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 6: If if some of y'all want to watch about Snell Grove,

1417
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,920
you can go to the Monster Quest episode. I don't

1418
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,119
know which one it is, but I mean most of

1419
01:16:09,319 --> 01:16:11,239
most of us have seen that back in the day.

1420
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,520
And then actually Bud and Angie Adventures with Budd and Angie.

1421
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,800
Bud he filmed a little bit, went fishing out in

1422
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,680
the boat and showed that rock where he put the

1423
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,279
fish at. And it's really beautiful up there, but it's

1424
01:16:22,319 --> 01:16:26,880
just it's so remote, Doug. Doug asked me he said,

1425
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,720
you want to go to Snail Grove. I said, nope.

1426
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:34,680
It didn't take me but two seconds. Nope, I'm going, yeah, you.

1427
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 4: Need a small bank loan to get up there too.

1428
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:41,039
So yeah, my wife was really nice saying I could

1429
01:16:41,039 --> 01:16:42,119
go once and then I'm like.

1430
01:16:42,159 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 2: Can I go again? And she's like, yeah, you can

1431
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,880
do that all right, So I got.

1432
01:16:47,039 --> 01:16:48,399
Speaker 4: I got to hand it to the wife. She's a

1433
01:16:48,399 --> 01:16:52,880
great partner. So this is the fire pit at Snell Grove.

1434
01:16:53,279 --> 01:16:55,760
And this camera I had was automated, so it moved

1435
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,920
around all night long, and it moved across the lake

1436
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,560
right here, and you'll see something interesting.

1437
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 2: What do you see right there?

1438
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 6: There's a light on those banks.

1439
01:17:06,399 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 2: Yep.

1440
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 4: There's no other humans up there. And we got really

1441
01:17:10,039 --> 01:17:14,039
excited about this. There's a bright light over on that

1442
01:17:14,079 --> 01:17:15,039
other bank there.

1443
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,079
Speaker 6: So it would have to be pretty big too, yep.

1444
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:23,960
And I figured it out though, Uh oh, the moon reflected.

1445
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,560
Speaker 2: What this was my ir camera trap.

1446
01:17:28,279 --> 01:17:31,039
Speaker 4: This is the light that I built and we put

1447
01:17:31,079 --> 01:17:32,840
it out in the woods. I totally forgot I put

1448
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,920
it there, and we're like, oh yeah, so something triggered

1449
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:39,560
my light and triggered my camera trap, and uh, I

1450
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,640
have to really dig through the footage, but my quick

1451
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,000
look I didn't find much. But just to the right

1452
01:17:46,079 --> 01:17:49,319
over here, right there is where I saw that portal open,

1453
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,079
and I wish I had filmed it because it was

1454
01:17:52,119 --> 01:17:58,319
this giant, golden, you know, amber colored rectangular portal that

1455
01:17:58,359 --> 01:18:00,880
went from the top of the from the lake surface

1456
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:02,560
of the lake up to the top of the trees.

1457
01:18:03,199 --> 01:18:05,520
Was open for five or six seconds and then closed,

1458
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,319
And I'm just like, what the hell's that?

1459
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:11,159
Speaker 6: Is that the first time you've experienced something like that?

1460
01:18:11,399 --> 01:18:16,439
I mean, that's yeah, that's how did you feel any

1461
01:18:17,319 --> 01:18:21,640
sensation when that was going on? Or or or was

1462
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:22,439
your mind clear?

1463
01:18:23,319 --> 01:18:24,359
Speaker 2: My mind's really clear.

1464
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 4: I just I've seen so many weird things that I'm

1465
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,840
just like, the first thing I think of is, damn,

1466
01:18:29,079 --> 01:18:31,520
I did you should have had a camera rolling and

1467
01:18:32,039 --> 01:18:35,079
that you know, I don't feel I don't feel like

1468
01:18:34,239 --> 01:18:37,000
like like it's scary or anything. I don't feel like

1469
01:18:37,039 --> 01:18:40,039
something's coming out of it at me. But at the

1470
01:18:40,039 --> 01:18:42,600
same time, I'm like, what the heck was that? Why

1471
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,840
didn't I have a camera on? And the second trip

1472
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,399
on Snellgrove, I wore a GoPro right on my forehead,

1473
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:50,960
like seven or eight hours a day.

1474
01:18:51,159 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 2: I mean it hurt.

1475
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 4: I had an imprint in my forehead from the camera.

1476
01:18:55,279 --> 01:18:58,399
And people don't get it, like you can't do twenty

1477
01:18:58,399 --> 01:19:01,479
four to seven. The Gopro's burned through batteries like every

1478
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,159
hour and a half, and they burned through cards every

1479
01:19:04,159 --> 01:19:06,760
three or four hours or whatever. And you're like you're

1480
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,840
constantly switching things out and trying to keep that thing

1481
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:10,560
going all day.

1482
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,279
Speaker 6: And the thing with the GoPro, everybody says that, you

1483
01:19:13,319 --> 01:19:15,840
know you need a GoPro, Well they're not the best

1484
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,880
cameras in the world. If something is eighty yards away

1485
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,199
and you're moving, you know, you know, it's just it's

1486
01:19:22,239 --> 01:19:26,039
so tough to get a great video or picture. And yeah,

1487
01:19:26,079 --> 01:19:30,560
Andrew met you know the cabin. How many times the

1488
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,880
cabin has been broken through several times.

1489
01:19:33,039 --> 01:19:35,399
Speaker 4: It was broken into just a month before we got there.

1490
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,079
As a matter of fact, I think a couple of weeks.

1491
01:19:37,079 --> 01:19:38,079
Speaker 2: They just fixed it up.

1492
01:19:38,399 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, they had to like remodel it was so bad.

1493
01:19:41,039 --> 01:19:43,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, they well they have to fix all the things.

1494
01:19:43,199 --> 01:19:46,880
They can't because remember they have to bring every piece

1495
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:50,119
of material in on a floatplane, and they had to

1496
01:19:50,119 --> 01:19:55,039
build that cabin from materials on a floatplane.

1497
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,279
Speaker 2: So they try to use whatever's there to fix it.

1498
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 4: So if like for us, the cabinet doors were all

1499
01:20:00,079 --> 01:20:02,319
ripped off, but they didn't put new cabinet doors on,

1500
01:20:02,359 --> 01:20:05,159
they put the old ones back on, you know, but

1501
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,439
that was good for us because what we were able

1502
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,199
to do is look at them with a scientific mind

1503
01:20:11,279 --> 01:20:13,680
and go, Okay, if this was a bear that ripped

1504
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,399
this off the cabinet, there should be some scratches on it.

1505
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,319
There should be some bite marks on it. There should

1506
01:20:18,319 --> 01:20:20,239
be because a bear has to grab it with his

1507
01:20:20,319 --> 01:20:23,119
teeth or its claws. There's only two things I can

1508
01:20:23,159 --> 01:20:26,520
think of to pull it off, the hinges. And we

1509
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,960
didn't find any sort of scratches or biite marks on

1510
01:20:29,039 --> 01:20:32,079
it at all, So you know, we're thinking something with

1511
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:35,239
fingers did it. And that's why they built that nailboard,

1512
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,399
because something broke in there and trash the place the

1513
01:20:38,399 --> 01:20:41,720
first time. And what's really interesting, which they don't really

1514
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,880
kind of talk about too much, is that everybody who

1515
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,359
goes up there brings entertainment and what do you normally bring?

1516
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,399
What's light, what's easy to carry a deck of cards? Right,

1517
01:20:52,159 --> 01:20:54,720
so every fisherman brings a deck of cards up there

1518
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,880
and they just leave them there. So there's like a

1519
01:20:57,039 --> 01:21:00,000
hundred decks of cards up there, just sitting on your shelf. Right,

1520
01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:04,079
whatever broke into the cabin sat there on the couch

1521
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:09,119
and ripped up playing cards, like decks and decks of

1522
01:21:09,199 --> 01:21:10,039
playing cards.

1523
01:21:10,399 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 2: What kind of bear would do that?

1524
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:14,319
Speaker 6: So like in the pack.

1525
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 4: He took it out of the pack and just start

1526
01:21:17,399 --> 01:21:20,520
individually and just ripped up playing cards on the floor.

1527
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:27,399
Speaker 2: And that gives me the creeps that creeps me out.

1528
01:21:28,039 --> 01:21:31,039
Speaker 4: That's oh, if you could hear this, this is what

1529
01:21:31,119 --> 01:21:32,640
creeped us out the second time.

1530
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:36,279
Speaker 2: I think I froze up a little.

1531
01:21:36,119 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 6: Bit here well. And I do remember from at least

1532
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,800
one of the Monster Quest episodes when the cabin got

1533
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,239
broken into, nobody was there, yea, And they said a

1534
01:21:48,279 --> 01:21:54,359
bear would have went for the uh insulation inside the refrigerator,

1535
01:21:54,399 --> 01:21:57,720
because that's what they do because that formaldehyde I believe

1536
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,600
it is, or something that's in that smells wheat to them.

1537
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:04,479
And it whatever was in there didn't touch the refrigerator,

1538
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:05,760
which is unlike a bear.

1539
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 4: Right, And so all the points, all the signs point

1540
01:22:11,039 --> 01:22:12,000
to something other than.

1541
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:16,399
Speaker 2: A bear, right, All right. Wow, Okay, I think.

1542
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 6: Yeah I could. That must freaked out. I wouldn't. Like,

1543
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:27,880
I'm just picturing, like why, like a regular animal might

1544
01:22:28,319 --> 01:22:31,199
knock a couple off and chew on a pat to

1545
01:22:31,319 --> 01:22:34,119
test it out and then figure out if nothing but

1546
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,640
what would sell on the couch.

1547
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,279
Speaker 2: Would sit on the couch and rip them all up. Exactly. Man.

1548
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:43,640
That see, that's the thing y'all are picturing. It's it

1549
01:22:44,079 --> 01:22:48,319
or them or whatever sitting on the couch tearing the cars.

1550
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,239
I picture it like crouching on the floor like a

1551
01:22:51,399 --> 01:22:55,319
crab or something, you know, you know, like you know,

1552
01:22:55,399 --> 01:22:56,800
like on Lord of the Rings.

1553
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh my god, yeah, and Flat Rockings Flat Flat

1554
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,279
Rockland said it was tiny little pieces?

1555
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 2: Oh did he? Okay, I didn't know the whole story, but.

1556
01:23:15,319 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good LORI Barnes. Maybe y'all, maybe y'all

1557
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,720
y'all need to leave something to trick it, make it

1558
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:29,000
a look like a deck of cards. Yeah, I know

1559
01:23:29,079 --> 01:23:33,319
y'all's mind. Y'all probably have thought about this, you know before,

1560
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:38,640
But I think I think there, you know, possibly they're

1561
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,920
so intelligent they avoid cameras or they can mess them up,

1562
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:46,159
who knows. I believe a lot of the sightings are accidental,

1563
01:23:46,239 --> 01:23:50,479
so it's gonna be something to really really trick them,

1564
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:51,000
I think.

1565
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, well there's two like, don't trick them because

1566
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,680
they got telepathy, or try to trick them because they

1567
01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:58,560
because you can.

1568
01:23:59,319 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's the thing.

1569
01:24:04,279 --> 01:24:08,119
Speaker 4: Now I'm going to share that screen again with you

1570
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,279
and hopefully we're back in. Can you can you play

1571
01:24:12,399 --> 01:24:13,119
listen to audio?

1572
01:24:13,159 --> 01:24:14,520
Speaker 2: This one's kind of a little creepy.

1573
01:24:16,199 --> 01:24:17,119
Speaker 6: I believe it'll play.

1574
01:24:17,399 --> 01:24:19,399
Speaker 2: Try it, Okay, I'll play it again.

1575
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 4: It's so I don't know if you've got the volume

1576
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:28,319
on that screen or not. All right, I'll just tell you.

1577
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,720
We had the cameras out and we literally all of

1578
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,239
us were just kind of casually talking and we heard

1579
01:24:34,239 --> 01:24:37,119
a voice come across the cameras from in the woods,

1580
01:24:37,159 --> 01:24:38,760
miles and miles away from everybody else.

1581
01:24:39,079 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 2: So I call it.

1582
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,359
Speaker 4: An EVP, but it was a voice and it sounds

1583
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:47,119
kind of Native American, and that that was what really

1584
01:24:47,159 --> 01:24:51,359
creeped us out when we were there, because it's like, oh, that's.

1585
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 2: That's language, that's intelligent speech. This is all still at

1586
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,720
the same place. That's Snellgrove.

1587
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, there is a there is a little bit of

1588
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,760
a paranormal thing going on up there. The first night

1589
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:05,920
I was there, I climbed into bed and I felt

1590
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,840
something sit on my legs. And I didn't want to

1591
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,119
tell anybody about it because I'm just like, this is

1592
01:25:11,159 --> 01:25:13,359
really weird. I don't we're doing bigfoot. I'm not going

1593
01:25:13,399 --> 01:25:19,000
to talk about ghosts. But the next day Chris was saying, Hey,

1594
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,479
I got to tell you guys, something was whispering in

1595
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:23,399
my ear last night.

1596
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 2: Oh my, oh well, something.

1597
01:25:25,199 --> 01:25:29,199
Speaker 4: Sat on my legs. And then and then Doug goes

1598
01:25:29,239 --> 01:25:31,560
and tells us, oh, yeah, well people have died at

1599
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:36,119
this cabin. And I'm like what, And it's you know,

1600
01:25:37,039 --> 01:25:39,439
it's it's really weird. You don't think about these things.

1601
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,800
But I guess there was a father son who had

1602
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,800
put their life jackets after fishing. They put them on

1603
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,039
top of the propane refrigerator and blocked the vent and

1604
01:25:48,159 --> 01:25:52,119
basically died of carbon monoxide. Oh man, Yeah, that's horrible,

1605
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,560
but I mean it happens. Accidents happen. I guess there

1606
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,159
was another fisherman who had a heart attack up there.

1607
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:02,319
And you know, like they you arrive on day one

1608
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,840
and the plane picks you up on day seven and

1609
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:06,119
you don't have a SAT phone.

1610
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:08,359
Speaker 2: What do you do with a body for a week?

1611
01:26:09,039 --> 01:26:12,239
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I mean there's a lot of weird stuff

1612
01:26:12,399 --> 01:26:14,439
that you got to think about when you're that remote.

1613
01:26:15,319 --> 01:26:22,079
So Creepy Mountain we did that one already. Flat Rocks

1614
01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:24,920
Drone we did that. Oh the tree fall, Well you don't.

1615
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,760
You don't have audio, so that's let me play this

1616
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:29,479
if you can hear it.

1617
01:26:30,079 --> 01:26:34,039
Speaker 2: But yeah, Rob, you need to get the audio work.

1618
01:26:34,039 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 6: And Roger, well, I thought if he shared it, it

1619
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:38,359
might just play.

1620
01:26:39,279 --> 01:26:45,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought so you Spencer, Spencer Mystery would know

1621
01:26:45,359 --> 01:26:53,039
how to do this, would know how to do Yeah.

1622
01:26:53,319 --> 01:26:56,279
Speaker 4: Misty got me in trouble with Spencer at at at

1623
01:26:56,279 --> 01:27:03,319
elbl Yes, she decided I was making these songs for everybody,

1624
01:27:03,359 --> 01:27:05,159
and she's like, make one about Spencer. I'm like, I

1625
01:27:05,159 --> 01:27:08,239
don't know Spencer, Like I haven't met Spencer much yet.

1626
01:27:08,359 --> 01:27:12,000
So anyhow, she told me all these things about him.

1627
01:27:12,039 --> 01:27:14,199
So I made this really funny song and I played

1628
01:27:14,199 --> 01:27:18,560
it for him. He was not amused. So my first

1629
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,880
impressions with him are like, Okay, sorry, Spencer, I didn't

1630
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:22,600
mean to piss you off.

1631
01:27:25,119 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 6: It's easy to do.

1632
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say try that.

1633
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,079
Speaker 4: I keep looking behind you as I got the screen here,

1634
01:27:30,119 --> 01:27:34,079
I got everything's behind my other screen. One second. I'll

1635
01:27:34,079 --> 01:27:38,079
try to share this one more time. Share share screen.

1636
01:27:39,279 --> 01:27:44,479
All right, go ahead and add that back in if

1637
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:48,920
you can. Okay, I must have shut it down. Okay,

1638
01:27:49,279 --> 01:27:53,720
So right away in at the back of Flat Rocks

1639
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:57,479
we had this. I put my camera up and literally

1640
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:01,119
like fifteen seconds later, a giant tree came down ten

1641
01:28:01,119 --> 01:28:01,920
feet away from this.

1642
01:28:02,359 --> 01:28:05,199
Speaker 2: And the audio is so loud, I don't know.

1643
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:11,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not hearing Yeah, you're not hearing.

1644
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 4: It, all right, but you can see that there was

1645
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,680
this weird flash of light right here.

1646
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 6: You see that I saw it. Not it not lightning.

1647
01:28:22,279 --> 01:28:24,399
Speaker 4: It could have been lightning, but it was just like

1648
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,039
lightning flash. And then the tree came down and there

1649
01:28:27,079 --> 01:28:29,720
was no wind and there was no rain. Uh so

1650
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:30,800
that was it was interesting.

1651
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 2: Is it good evidence? No? You know? Did we find

1652
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:37,600
footprints next to the tree the next morning? Yes? Were

1653
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:38,319
they castable?

1654
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:38,520
Speaker 4: No?

1655
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:39,119
Speaker 3: You know?

1656
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 6: And there was if I'm not mistaken, there was at

1657
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,359
least eight or ten of the guys there right it

1658
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:52,520
was uh yeah, Budden Angie and flat rotten yep. And

1659
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,439
then kas Yeah.

1660
01:28:54,039 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 4: Yep, and Joe and Pat and a couple other friends there. Yeah.

1661
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,239
Speaker 6: So this is good, Adham. I'm glad you brought this

1662
01:29:01,319 --> 01:29:04,159
picture of He sent this to me, uh, right after

1663
01:29:04,159 --> 01:29:06,680
he took it. Bama, this is the LBO. Have you

1664
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:07,760
ever seen anything like this?

1665
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 2: Hmmm, I'm just I was sitting looking at the whole

1666
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:18,439
time y'all were talking. I don't know, man. So the

1667
01:29:19,279 --> 01:29:22,000
thing about LBL is, you know, like, what time of

1668
01:29:22,119 --> 01:29:24,800
year is this was this at Low Pool? This is

1669
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,359
at Low Pool when they let the water way way down.

1670
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is right after we did the whole, uh,

1671
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,800
the the Alabama tour. So right after I was driving

1672
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,439
back to Minnesota and LBL is literally on my way.

1673
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:40,399
So I'm like, I've never been there. I want to

1674
01:29:40,399 --> 01:29:42,520
see what it's like. So I went to, you know,

1675
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,119
the campsite everyone told me to go to, and the

1676
01:29:45,119 --> 01:29:47,600
first thing I see is this little these little ponds

1677
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,680
there's one, two, three, you can see four or five,

1678
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,000
there's like five of them. And right down at the

1679
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,159
top at the top of the picture there I found

1680
01:29:55,159 --> 01:29:58,800
a bone yard where it had deer bones, fish bones,

1681
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:03,560
and clambone or clamshells, and right across this area is

1682
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:05,439
where the where you guys.

1683
01:30:05,199 --> 01:30:08,039
Speaker 2: Found the trackway. So this is the same area. Yeah,

1684
01:30:08,079 --> 01:30:10,920
I know exactly. I know in fact now and I

1685
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,720
look it up, probably know exactly where that's at. This

1686
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:15,920
is just to the left of that boat lone. Yeah,

1687
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,600
I kind of agree with what people are saying in

1688
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,079
the chat. Before I ever looked at chat. It looks

1689
01:30:21,119 --> 01:30:24,840
like somebody like constructed them two or three little minno traps,

1690
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:29,039
you know, to where maybe the minnows could could get

1691
01:30:29,039 --> 01:30:31,439
into a crack and get trapped up in that little

1692
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,479
pool there or something. But that's what I found in

1693
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:41,159
every pool. What's that clams? Yeah, I'll be yeah.

1694
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 6: And the thing is, you know, if this was built,

1695
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:46,560
let's say this was built two weeks prior and the

1696
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,199
water level was up a little higher. Uh, that would

1697
01:30:50,199 --> 01:30:56,199
work at this point, but who knows, because y'all found

1698
01:30:56,319 --> 01:30:58,720
the shelves up in the woods, haven't you heard? Something

1699
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,680
carried the shells up and.

1700
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:04,399
Speaker 2: Like a like a like a pile of them. That's

1701
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:04,840
the scene.

1702
01:31:06,079 --> 01:31:06,239
Speaker 1: Now.

1703
01:31:06,279 --> 01:31:11,039
Speaker 2: We we had a couple of raccoons as kids, and uh,

1704
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:15,399
a dang raccoon can get into a muscle shell a

1705
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:19,159
lot faster and you can get into one with a knife.

1706
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:21,880
So but the ones we found were all, you know,

1707
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,199
like piled up in a pile together.

1708
01:31:25,359 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 6: So adam were they? Were they live or the had

1709
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:28,319
they been.

1710
01:31:28,159 --> 01:31:32,039
Speaker 4: Eating the one there's the boneyard. Just like you said,

1711
01:31:32,039 --> 01:31:34,239
they were all piled up, but there was deer bones

1712
01:31:34,279 --> 01:31:37,319
and fishbones in there as well, so it was a

1713
01:31:37,319 --> 01:31:40,800
little it was like something sat in the woods and ate. Right.

1714
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. It's a good evidence, no,

1715
01:31:44,199 --> 01:31:45,680
you know so.

1716
01:31:46,319 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 6: But it's it's great to have somebody might see something

1717
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:50,520
in three years.

1718
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 2: And are you going he always says, is a good evidence?

1719
01:31:55,279 --> 01:31:58,880
I don't know. Are you going to give us anything

1720
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:02,119
that's good evidence? And that's just it.

1721
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,640
Speaker 4: I don't have anything that's awesome.

1722
01:32:06,079 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 2: Expeditions.

1723
01:32:07,039 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 4: I've got wood knocks, I've got whoops, I've got tree falls,

1724
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:13,600
I've got I got all this stuff, but I've never

1725
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,560
seen one, and I don't have any good evidence.

1726
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 2: I've got eyes shine.

1727
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:20,359
Speaker 6: You know, well, I think you're I think you're too

1728
01:32:21,039 --> 01:32:28,520
peaky because you're probably one or half a percent more

1729
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:33,239
possible evidence than anybody else has. I mean, you're out

1730
01:32:33,239 --> 01:32:36,560
there doing this and that shows you guys and gals.

1731
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,359
That shows you how hard it is to get something

1732
01:32:40,039 --> 01:32:41,920
on camera on audio.

1733
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 2: And am documenting it to That's the thing about me.

1734
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:48,800
That's my one regret is I couldn't go back and

1735
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:51,159
tell you the date and time that the first thing

1736
01:32:51,279 --> 01:32:53,800
happened to me or the second or third. I maybe

1737
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:54,640
can there Now.

1738
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 4: That's I love the gamp right here that tells the

1739
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:58,039
exactly what happened.

1740
01:32:58,319 --> 01:32:59,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great.

1741
01:33:00,319 --> 01:33:06,279
Speaker 4: So I guess when this happened four thirteen, twenty twenty six.

1742
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,119
This was the night after everyone left.

1743
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,640
Speaker 2: Lbl Okay, Oh really, where is the uh? Where's the

1744
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,159
where do you have the camera at? Ah?

1745
01:33:15,199 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 4: So, because I've got starlink mounted on my jeep right

1746
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:20,199
Roger used it.

1747
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:21,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1748
01:33:22,119 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 4: I put my jeep right in the center of the park,

1749
01:33:25,359 --> 01:33:29,319
right where we were all camping, and I put fifteen

1750
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:32,439
cameras all in a giant circle all around, starting up

1751
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:35,239
by the bathroom and then all up aside and then

1752
01:33:35,279 --> 01:33:39,399
past the graveyard road and down. And I didn't put

1753
01:33:39,399 --> 01:33:42,439
any cameras on Joe and Pat's camper because I didn't

1754
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:45,199
want them to feel like I was, you know, pointing

1755
01:33:45,199 --> 01:33:47,880
it at them. And of course that night they have

1756
01:33:48,039 --> 01:33:51,399
a you know a visitor that messes with their cooler

1757
01:33:51,399 --> 01:33:53,720
and leaves a big footprint on their camper. The one

1758
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,359
spot I didn't have cameras set up right.

1759
01:33:56,479 --> 01:34:02,680
Speaker 6: And and where they were at, something could have come from,

1760
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:04,520
you know where we did the show and I was

1761
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:06,239
looking out over the water to the left.

1762
01:34:06,399 --> 01:34:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could anywhere down there.

1763
01:34:08,279 --> 01:34:10,359
Speaker 6: You didn't have that that area covered.

1764
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 4: I didn't have the I didn't have the lakeside covered.

1765
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,600
I just had the the other side by the where

1766
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:17,279
the big bonfire was.

1767
01:34:17,319 --> 01:34:18,560
Speaker 2: I had that whole area covered.

1768
01:34:19,119 --> 01:34:21,520
Speaker 6: I agree with that injury. What about you, Beema, It

1769
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:22,399
is a pondrance.

1770
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,159
Speaker 2: The second he said that, I'm like, I ain't hurt

1771
01:34:25,199 --> 01:34:29,960
anybody use that terminology in a while. Yeah, but no,

1772
01:34:30,279 --> 01:34:34,840
that's exactly right. It's like you can you can take

1773
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,000
any of the little It just means you can take

1774
01:34:37,039 --> 01:34:39,880
any of the little individual things, and they don't mean

1775
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:43,039
a whole lot. But it's like a crime scene where

1776
01:34:43,039 --> 01:34:45,960
you have shellecase and scattered for two hundred yards and

1777
01:34:46,039 --> 01:34:50,880
on a gun front. Uh. That all of it together

1778
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:56,640
is what tells the story and gives its evidentiary value. Yep.

1779
01:34:58,399 --> 01:35:00,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, you need to keep doing what you doing.

1780
01:35:00,279 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 2: Adam, because you want me to keep going.

1781
01:35:02,319 --> 01:35:04,600
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, I just need you to keep We

1782
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:06,359
all need you to keep doing what you're doing.

1783
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:12,000
Speaker 2: Just taking up our slack. We're tired. We didn't do this,

1784
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:15,239
We've been doing this a while.

1785
01:35:17,399 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 4: I will take young guns. If there's any young guns

1786
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,239
out there that want to tag along, please. We need

1787
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,039
we need new blood in this thing. We need more

1788
01:35:25,039 --> 01:35:29,000
people hunting, you know, because we've got all the legends

1789
01:35:29,039 --> 01:35:30,920
are are are really old.

1790
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:38,520
Speaker 2: Now, you know, and it's right, you know what is

1791
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,760
this one? This is the LBL thing.

1792
01:35:41,319 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 4: Chris actually saw this on live on the camera and

1793
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:45,840
told me, he goes, dude, you got a great orb

1794
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,319
last night. I'm like, what, And so this is the

1795
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:49,840
orb that passed my camera.

1796
01:35:51,039 --> 01:35:52,319
Speaker 6: What in the world?

1797
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 2: And you can see it goes.

1798
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:57,399
Speaker 4: Behind the plant there, so it's not like a piece

1799
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:58,520
of dust that's in close.

1800
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 6: Stop it in the center for me, please.

1801
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:09,399
Speaker 4: And obviously the AI on the camera was tracking it,

1802
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,399
so it's it's something that yeah, I saw.

1803
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:18,159
Speaker 6: I'm trying to see if I don't see what I

1804
01:36:18,199 --> 01:36:23,239
saw like a clear membrane membrane, but the shape it

1805
01:36:23,279 --> 01:36:26,399
does have kind of a center though, like a like

1806
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,640
the the very center is more see through than the edges.

1807
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:31,399
Speaker 2: There's something around the edge there, like.

1808
01:36:31,359 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 6: A like almost like a smoke ring thicker, but it's

1809
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,800
not that of course. And then I don't see like

1810
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:43,239
a I saw a nucleus. But that's odd. It's like

1811
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:46,239
it's like something's holding that together. Bama, do you have

1812
01:36:46,279 --> 01:36:47,319
any idea what that could be?

1813
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 2: No, I'd like to see like some more frames. Let

1814
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:52,199
it come on through a little more.

1815
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 4: I'll play it in real time. Actually, here you go, ready, yeah, boom,

1816
01:36:58,119 --> 01:36:58,640
real time.

1817
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:03,560
Speaker 6: What in the world.

1818
01:37:04,199 --> 01:37:06,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can see it dips it like changes course

1819
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:09,319
to it like dips down. So it comes down and

1820
01:37:09,319 --> 01:37:10,920
then it dips down and then it goes up and

1821
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,439
it kind of dips down again, and right there it

1822
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:15,439
dips down twice and then goes off.

1823
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 2: So this is it? This is just ind okay, Yeah,

1824
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:26,119
it holds its shade. But then again, even though it's round,

1825
01:37:26,159 --> 01:37:27,920
it looks like it's flat.

1826
01:37:28,359 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 6: And you see when it leaves the bottom right side

1827
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:33,840
kind of in in dent a little bit.

1828
01:37:34,159 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it like it's like maybe that's just just

1829
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:40,600
turning at an angle. I don't know, man, it's not

1830
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:46,720
hitting anything. Uh, I'm looking at at that that right

1831
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:52,359
the movement down there of the uhlan of the grass

1832
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:56,039
on the far right bottom where that uh that motion.

1833
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't even notice that before because you know

1834
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:03,760
what if that's if that's true, then the wind is

1835
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:07,520
pushing this plant over this way right, so it's going

1836
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:08,319
against the wind.

1837
01:38:09,399 --> 01:38:10,560
Speaker 2: It didn't realize.

1838
01:38:12,119 --> 01:38:15,079
Speaker 4: Look at that plant is being pushed down a different direction,

1839
01:38:15,199 --> 01:38:16,199
and that that thing.

1840
01:38:16,159 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 2: Is security cameras at the house. When it picks up motion,

1841
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:28,119
it puts an event box around it. That's so right, Yeah, there,

1842
01:38:28,279 --> 01:38:30,479
that's the event box. Yep.

1843
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,119
Speaker 6: So all right, now let's walk now. It does look

1844
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:36,000
right there, right there, it looks hircle.

1845
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, bottom as it goes on across, it's almost

1846
01:38:41,039 --> 01:38:45,560
as if it turns to its it it turns to

1847
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:48,960
its right, and then it looks almost flat as it leaves.

1848
01:38:50,359 --> 01:38:53,640
What is it? I don't know? Is good evidence? No?

1849
01:38:55,119 --> 01:38:58,079
Speaker 4: Oh no, so you're gonna see, Adam. That's this is

1850
01:38:58,119 --> 01:39:02,039
why I don't talk. I get asked to be on podcasts,

1851
01:39:02,079 --> 01:39:04,520
but I don't. I don't ask people like can I

1852
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:06,640
be on your podcast? Because I don't even want to

1853
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:09,800
show this stuff because it's so weird. I can't explain it,

1854
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,239
but it's it's doesn't say it doesn't prove anything.

1855
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:13,560
Speaker 6: Well, there's another.

1856
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 2: This is the place for weird man.

1857
01:39:16,079 --> 01:39:19,359
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, you're in the right company. So here here's

1858
01:39:19,399 --> 01:39:22,239
another ruling out. Y'all see if y'all agree with this.

1859
01:39:23,119 --> 01:39:28,159
Let's forgiggles, Let's say somebody had a flashlight. It would

1860
01:39:28,159 --> 01:39:32,159
be it would be going across the leaves and creating

1861
01:39:32,199 --> 01:39:36,439
shadows over there, and it definitely wouldn't have changed shape, right, right,

1862
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:40,680
so we can roll that out. Now, you're not far

1863
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,000
from the cemetery.

1864
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:47,359
Speaker 2: Right, No, not at all. We're right. The cemetery is

1865
01:39:47,399 --> 01:39:51,000
right up hill. Yeah, hey, let me ask this question.

1866
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:52,920
Let me wait wit a second.

1867
01:39:53,159 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 4: Viewers, if you've never been to LBL, the thing that

1868
01:39:56,119 --> 01:39:59,680
shocked me as that you're driving in. There's so many

1869
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:02,479
sem arry's there, and I'm like, why are there so

1870
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:06,800
many cemeteries around here? And they told me people used

1871
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:09,319
to live here, and I'm like what And they kicked

1872
01:40:09,359 --> 01:40:12,159
everybody out of LBL and took it back, and I'm like,

1873
01:40:12,319 --> 01:40:14,600
so they tore down all the buildings, but they left

1874
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:17,720
the cemeteries and I'm like, wow, this place is creepy.

1875
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 2: That was a good point. It looks like a jellyfish

1876
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,399
on the way out. It's flat on the bottom, like

1877
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:25,920
I said, yeah.

1878
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:30,560
Speaker 6: And see, and that's what that's what makes it unique

1879
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:33,880
is that it might not be changing shape. It just

1880
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,159
made me, like Bama said, turned in a different angle

1881
01:40:36,199 --> 01:40:39,640
and showing a difference. Who knows. It's hard to tell.

1882
01:40:40,119 --> 01:40:44,319
But I don't have an answer for this anything.

1883
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 2: I have a question, is this this is film because

1884
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:55,039
motions set off the camera? Is that correct?

1885
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 4: This particular one I had set recording all night long,

1886
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:02,239
so every minute, every every second of every minute it

1887
01:41:02,319 --> 01:41:05,600
recorded all night long, okay. And so Chris just happened

1888
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:09,239
to spot this one and tell me like, hey, look

1889
01:41:09,239 --> 01:41:12,359
at one o'clock am, and you'll see an orb and

1890
01:41:12,399 --> 01:41:15,800
I'm like, okay, this is twelve fifty nine or sorry, yeah,

1891
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,119
twelve fifty nine thirty eight is the timestamp on this one.

1892
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:22,199
And one hour after this is when I got up

1893
01:41:22,239 --> 01:41:25,520
to pee and something yell growled at me, and it

1894
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,119
was so close and so loud that I jumped back

1895
01:41:28,159 --> 01:41:32,239
in the car. And fifteen twenty minutes later, the camper,

1896
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:36,000
you know, Pat and Joe's camper, got walked on and

1897
01:41:36,039 --> 01:41:37,880
their cooler got tipped over or whatever.

1898
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:41,560
Speaker 6: So let's can we watch this one more time and see?

1899
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:44,000
All right, let's let's here's what I want to see.

1900
01:41:44,279 --> 01:41:45,880
I want to see if it's in front of these

1901
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:48,399
weeds or behind the weeds, or goes in between. I

1902
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:50,720
want to kind of see if I can.

1903
01:41:51,199 --> 01:41:54,119
Speaker 4: Looks like it goes behind but it is translucent.

1904
01:41:54,840 --> 01:42:00,399
Speaker 2: Yes, well, my thing, what I was asking is like

1905
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:02,640
I put my trail cam out a couple of weeks

1906
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:05,319
ago and left it out for a week on a spring,

1907
01:42:06,079 --> 01:42:08,880
and I got a couple of raccoons and stuff. When

1908
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,920
that thing, and it's got a black my camera has

1909
01:42:12,199 --> 01:42:16,000
black flash on it, so people can't see it or

1910
01:42:16,039 --> 01:42:21,239
anything like that. But when that thing is triggered by motion,

1911
01:42:22,399 --> 01:42:26,560
it lights up the foliage around it like it is

1912
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:30,439
in this video here. And there was a tree close

1913
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,279
in front too, so that tree would pick up a

1914
01:42:33,279 --> 01:42:36,079
lot of light. I figured out that's why I was

1915
01:42:36,119 --> 01:42:40,199
wondering if this was on all the time and illuminated

1916
01:42:40,279 --> 01:42:43,399
those plants all the time, or if it was simply

1917
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:46,239
because of motion. Okay, all right, So.

1918
01:42:46,239 --> 01:42:49,039
Speaker 4: This I set all the cameras to be full illumination,

1919
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,920
and I set them to stay on all night, so

1920
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:54,359
they were they were all burning batteries all night long.

1921
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, and a most security camp. Most game cams.

1922
01:43:00,119 --> 01:43:04,079
Now you can have it where it'll just do all

1923
01:43:04,119 --> 01:43:07,600
those different programs stream by at once to know. Yeah.

1924
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:11,680
Speaker 4: So the cool part about this is that it's all

1925
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:14,840
tied into my starlink, so I can be sleepy laying

1926
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:18,399
in my jeep watching all the cameras live, which is

1927
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:21,239
really kind of fun, and it gives me a sense

1928
01:43:21,239 --> 01:43:24,880
of security knowing that I don't see anything moving out there. Right,

1929
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:27,640
but when you step out of the car, you don't

1930
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:30,720
have night vision goggles on, so it's pitch black. You

1931
01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:33,520
guys know it's pitch black. Oh yeah, yeah, so you

1932
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:36,199
can't see anything. So I'm I'm taking a leak and

1933
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:38,520
some of the grawls at me. I mean, it could

1934
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:40,359
be three feet away, it could be ten feet away.

1935
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:42,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. I couldn't see anything.

1936
01:43:42,239 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 6: So just guesstimating. I mean, you've heard you've been around

1937
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:51,439
big animals. Did it sound like it was had good

1938
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:52,119
size to it?

1939
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:54,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know it now that you made me

1940
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:56,680
think of it. It sounded like it was coming from

1941
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:59,720
above me, So it sounded like it was taller than me.

1942
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,199
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that fact until just now.

1943
01:44:04,319 --> 01:44:07,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, so well that's what happens.

1944
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,199
Speaker 6: That's when we discussed these things because that weird sound

1945
01:44:10,279 --> 01:44:14,439
I heard in the broad daylight. Later thinking about it,

1946
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,840
I realized I was looking up about ten foot yep.

1947
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:21,159
So yeah, that's one. It's great to talk about. And

1948
01:44:21,159 --> 01:44:24,520
and for y'all that never never have been there and

1949
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,960
maybe hadn't heard us talk about this. I believe he's

1950
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,520
looking that's that's the side of the hill that the

1951
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:34,439
cemetery is at the top, right, Yes, yep, okay, just

1952
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:38,279
and Gary and I. Gary got that picture and it's

1953
01:44:38,319 --> 01:44:40,520
it's not a great picture, but I saw him take it.

1954
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:43,039
I was standing behind him and I saw something look

1955
01:44:43,079 --> 01:44:46,560
out twice and it had a shoulder and a head

1956
01:44:47,199 --> 01:44:49,920
and I heard it walking away and we found tracks.

1957
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:57,119
So and that's really close to where Gary and LORI

1958
01:44:57,399 --> 01:45:00,199
And there's like seven or eight people saw or in

1959
01:45:00,239 --> 01:45:01,680
my tent with their eyes.

1960
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:05,720
Speaker 4: That camera with the orb was basically where Patrick was camped.

1961
01:45:06,039 --> 01:45:11,520
Speaker 2: Okay, under the cedar tree. Under the cedar yeah, that's right.

1962
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:16,479
If I yeah, if I camp with the crowd, that's

1963
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:19,239
where I camp at is next to where Patrick is.

1964
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:23,319
Speaker 4: All right, well this was my one of my last episode,

1965
01:45:23,399 --> 01:45:27,239
the last things, and I just haven't taken very many

1966
01:45:27,239 --> 01:45:28,439
pictures of stick structures.

1967
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:32,520
Speaker 2: But tell me that doesn't look placed I wish.

1968
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I see it. Yeah, so yeah.

1969
01:45:36,319 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 4: And then there's the y at the top that's leaned

1970
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:42,640
up against the telephone pole. There's the sticks, and I

1971
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:43,800
got some close ups.

1972
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:46,159
Speaker 2: Of it, and it looks like the grounds really disturbed.

1973
01:45:46,239 --> 01:45:48,479
Right under it almost looks like where a buck has

1974
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:54,319
uh you know, there.

1975
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:56,159
Speaker 4: Are no branches or leaves anywhere to be seen. This

1976
01:45:56,239 --> 01:45:58,640
is a planted row of trees, and behind it there's

1977
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:01,199
a planted row of pines, and behind that there's a

1978
01:46:01,199 --> 01:46:04,319
planted row of bushes. This is a weird property where

1979
01:46:04,319 --> 01:46:07,319
they've planted row upon row of windbreak.

1980
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 2: I don't know what they've done there. Maybe yeah, it

1981
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:09,960
could be.

1982
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:13,319
Speaker 4: But the point is something brought this branch out and

1983
01:46:13,399 --> 01:46:15,399
brought all these sticks out to this area.

1984
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:16,560
Speaker 2: Because you can see.

1985
01:46:16,359 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 4: There's nothing on the ground and there's nothing that would

1986
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:21,479
have fallen from these trees that far away. That's that's

1987
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:23,560
a good ten to fifteen feet away from those trees.

1988
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 6: So the only thing you have here is is a

1989
01:46:28,119 --> 01:46:32,880
human was camping? Uh, what do you call it? What

1990
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:34,039
do you call that kind of camping?

1991
01:46:34,119 --> 01:46:35,119
Speaker 2: Where the bush craft?

1992
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 6: Right?

1993
01:46:36,079 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 2: Okay, this, no one's camping here. It's a horrible shelter.

1994
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:42,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is.

1995
01:46:43,199 --> 01:46:45,359
Speaker 4: No one's camping here because this is literally on the

1996
01:46:45,359 --> 01:46:49,199
side of the road, on the on the way to

1997
01:46:49,239 --> 01:46:50,079
the Vargas Trails.

1998
01:46:50,079 --> 01:46:52,680
Speaker 2: In minutes, it's been interesting. Is zoom in on the

1999
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:55,439
top of that thing there? It looks fresh on.

2000
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:57,560
Speaker 4: Top fresh and it looks twisted, doesn't it.

2001
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh, and that's that's what I was warning. Is

2002
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:03,600
it twisted? And is the other hand stuck in the ground.

2003
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:07,359
Speaker 4: No, it was leaned up gently. All these things are

2004
01:47:07,399 --> 01:47:08,800
crossed and leaned up gently.

2005
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2006
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:13,279
Speaker 4: And then a mot a mile down the road we

2007
01:47:13,399 --> 01:47:18,600
found this guy what I'm gonna call Look at this structure.

2008
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:22,600
Look at how much stuff's going on here. It's like

2009
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,199
you can walk into the there's like a doorway here.

2010
01:47:25,279 --> 01:47:27,720
You can go inside there and lay down in the leaves.

2011
01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:32,600
Right there, here's another angle of it. Oh, yeah, so

2012
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:35,000
you can see it's like all these things are arched over.

2013
01:47:35,079 --> 01:47:38,279
I mean, yeah, is there snow bend? But you can

2014
01:47:38,319 --> 01:47:40,680
see how sheltered it is. And there's a great big

2015
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:43,000
door right here. Basically we walked into it.

2016
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:46,279
Speaker 2: I looked for fur and stuff, you know, or hair

2017
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:53,399
and all that other stuff. So, but is this great evidence?

2018
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:53,520
Speaker 3: No?

2019
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:58,680
Speaker 2: I mean, could this be snow? Yeah?

2020
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:02,520
Speaker 4: I can't, like, I can't show a skeptic any of

2021
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:03,479
these things and be like.

2022
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:06,159
Speaker 2: Look at we're looking at a big foothouse, you know.

2023
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 6: And they'd be like, so Andrew, Andrew said, the drone

2024
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:14,279
you showed earlier, as referred to as a Dragonfly drone,

2025
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:16,880
it only has a ten minute flight time. The operator

2026
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:17,840
must have been closed.

2027
01:48:18,119 --> 01:48:26,319
Speaker 4: Wow, that is crazy because it's not Yeah, wow, thank you, Andrew.

2028
01:48:27,239 --> 01:48:30,319
Yeah all right, Uh for those of you guys haven't

2029
01:48:30,319 --> 01:48:32,439
seen it yet, I built a Squatch mobile.

2030
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:36,920
Speaker 2: I took it down to l that's right, I remember it.

2031
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:39,399
Speaker 6: I was looking for a t Rex following him and

2032
01:48:39,399 --> 01:48:41,319
when I first saw it, that is cool.

2033
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:44,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I for the New York trip. I

2034
01:48:44,119 --> 01:48:46,119
actually put a bunch of ATVs behind it. So I

2035
01:48:46,159 --> 01:48:48,800
was pulling a big trailer with a bunch of ATVs.

2036
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:51,840
Speaker 6: So and y'all actually got stopped, didn't Chris run into

2037
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:53,880
a lady in Alabama? That has watched his show.

2038
01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:57,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we when you're advertising like this on

2039
01:48:57,680 --> 01:48:59,600
the jeep, people come out of the woodwork to tell

2040
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,359
me stories. I had three people in Alabama stop me

2041
01:49:02,399 --> 01:49:05,880
and tell me right where they saw squatches crossing the bridges.

2042
01:49:06,119 --> 01:49:08,560
And I looked on a map and it was literally

2043
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:12,239
less than a mile from from Flat Rocks House. Three

2044
01:49:12,279 --> 01:49:15,159
people told me about sasquatch crossings less than a mile

2045
01:49:15,199 --> 01:49:16,239
from Flat Rocks House.

2046
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:18,960
Speaker 2: Strangers just out of the woodwork.

2047
01:49:19,399 --> 01:49:22,560
Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, when you go to these small communities, at them, yep,

2048
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:29,720
it's like that we've we've overheard conversations at Greggs. Now

2049
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:33,840
that I'm doing this, I have people that I never

2050
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:37,520
would have dreamed that would talk about this or contacted

2051
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:40,000
me and like, hey, do you remember where we lived

2052
01:49:40,079 --> 01:49:43,960
and you said you saw this there or somebody and there.

2053
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:47,279
So it's mental pins on the map, but it and

2054
01:49:47,359 --> 01:49:50,880
what they have in common is the ridges right there.

2055
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:54,760
The ridges run north and south. They can be over

2056
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:57,560
the ridge and be away from everybody. Then you have

2057
01:49:57,600 --> 01:50:01,520
water close by. You know, just just just what we

2058
01:50:02,319 --> 01:50:07,199
come to find that most of these situations have in common.

2059
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,439
And and when you get to a small community like

2060
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:15,720
that and this one. It wouldn't happened thirty years ago, right,

2061
01:50:16,079 --> 01:50:20,000
But now people are coming to you and giving you

2062
01:50:20,039 --> 01:50:24,399
this information, and so that tells you they're not they're

2063
01:50:24,399 --> 01:50:26,199
not trying to get on a podcast, they're not trying

2064
01:50:26,199 --> 01:50:28,840
to sell the T shirt. They're just like, hey man,

2065
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:32,199
you believe in bigfoot? I see we saw one cross

2066
01:50:32,239 --> 01:50:35,079
right down here. I mean that's that to me?

2067
01:50:35,399 --> 01:50:36,239
Speaker 2: What it's like, You're right.

2068
01:50:36,319 --> 01:50:37,399
Speaker 4: They just come up to me and be like, I

2069
01:50:37,399 --> 01:50:38,119
got a story for you.

2070
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 6: Yes to me. That's where we come from. And BAMA

2071
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:49,239
started doing the podcast kind of that transition time. And

2072
01:50:49,319 --> 01:50:54,760
now we've we've moved forward enough where people feel comfortable

2073
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:58,920
talking to people that they know. You know that that

2074
01:51:00,159 --> 01:51:03,800
artwork on your jeep, they knew you were somebody safe

2075
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:07,079
to talk to you. Right. I wear a jacket that

2076
01:51:07,159 --> 01:51:10,239
might have a you know, a patch on it or

2077
01:51:10,239 --> 01:51:12,800
something I can take off and put back on. I've

2078
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:16,479
had more conversations from wearing hats and stuff like that

2079
01:51:17,279 --> 01:51:21,000
because they figured you either believe in it or you

2080
01:51:21,079 --> 01:51:21,600
know something.

2081
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:24,399
Speaker 4: So anyway, I got a great story. You just reminded

2082
01:51:24,399 --> 01:51:26,920
me on my back was screwed up. So I went

2083
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:29,079
to a masseuse for a little while, and normally there

2084
01:51:29,119 --> 01:51:32,079
was female masseuses there, but one day there was a

2085
01:51:32,119 --> 01:51:34,560
male there and I happened to be wearing a Sasquatch

2086
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:37,680
t shirt and the guys giving me a massage. He goes, so,

2087
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:40,760
you you believe in bigfoot. I'm like, yeah, I haven't

2088
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,000
seen one yet, but I believe they're out there. He goes, oh, yeah,

2089
01:51:43,039 --> 01:51:46,640
they're out there, and I'm like, okay, tell me your story.

2090
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:47,119
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2091
01:51:47,359 --> 01:51:49,880
Speaker 4: It turns out he used to be an illegal pot

2092
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:53,800
farmer from northern California. Wow, And he was the dude

2093
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:55,680
who was tasked to stay in the tent with the

2094
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:59,560
gun all night. Nobody brought broke in the property and

2095
01:52:00,039 --> 01:52:04,239
old to marijuana, right, so he said, yeah, He goes,

2096
01:52:04,239 --> 01:52:07,399
those things smell terrible. He goes, every time they were around,

2097
01:52:07,399 --> 01:52:10,720
they'd be smacking my tent and yelling at me. And

2098
01:52:11,239 --> 01:52:13,000
he goes there was three or four of them always,

2099
01:52:13,039 --> 01:52:15,079
and they were I could hear him talking back and forth.

2100
01:52:15,119 --> 01:52:17,119
Speaker 2: He goes, it was the freakiest thing.

2101
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:20,520
Speaker 4: And like that guy, I gotta give him kudos because

2102
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:22,760
he's he does have a gun, but he's out there

2103
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:26,760
in a tent alone guarding a field right, and he

2104
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:30,880
knows they're squatch around and they're they're literally having conversations

2105
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:31,640
around his tent.

2106
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:39,319
Speaker 6: And I was I was somewhere training. I didn't know

2107
01:52:39,319 --> 01:52:42,399
where everybody was from. There was there was a guy

2108
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:47,079
from actually Minnesota, and there was a guy from California

2109
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:51,600
and as northern California. And I'm sitting in front of him.

2110
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:54,680
We're on the bus going somewhere to train, and I

2111
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:57,680
hear them talking, Hey, I'm Bob, Hey, whatever, and they're

2112
01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:02,199
talking and Bob had uh bigfoot? Had I noticed it?

2113
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:05,119
And I didn't say anything. I'm listening to him and

2114
01:53:05,239 --> 01:53:08,720
the same thing happened. Uh so you you into bigfoot

2115
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:10,760
or whatever? And he's like, well, yeah, I saw one

2116
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:14,239
in Minnesota. I was on a snowmobile and you know,

2117
01:53:14,239 --> 01:53:17,520
blah blah blah. Well this guy said I had one

2118
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:21,520
walked through my camp one night in the mountains and

2119
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:24,800
he wasn't happy. He said he didn't hurt us, but

2120
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:28,119
he came. He was, you know, stomping around and moving

2121
01:53:28,159 --> 01:53:31,000
things around and whatever. Ran them out of there. And

2122
01:53:31,039 --> 01:53:33,319
I said, hey, y'all, Roger Willi's nice to meet you

2123
01:53:33,359 --> 01:53:37,840
guys exactly, you know, So, yeah, that was amazing, and

2124
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:40,439
I wasn't going to interrupt him because I wanted to

2125
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:43,079
see where this conversation was going. And both of those

2126
01:53:43,119 --> 01:53:47,279
guys said they saw saw Bigfoot. Yeah, one side of

2127
01:53:47,279 --> 01:53:48,600
the country and the other side of the country.

2128
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 4: So and here I am spending weeks and weeks out

2129
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:53,199
in the woods and I haven't seen him yet.

2130
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:57,840
Speaker 6: Well, look, you keep doing what you're doing. You're not

2131
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:01,279
on the couch, so you're going to the right places.

2132
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:09,039
But I would just suggest I pick up pick one

2133
01:54:09,039 --> 01:54:11,880
of those places and stay for a few days down here,

2134
01:54:12,359 --> 01:54:14,560
because you know, Hitt and miss I mean, I've I've

2135
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:17,279
been to Gregs. We've all been to Gregs, and you'll

2136
01:54:17,279 --> 01:54:20,359
be there, nothing happens. Then then then something happens, or

2137
01:54:20,399 --> 01:54:23,479
you find footprints, or you you get hit with a

2138
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:27,000
smell that about w over and some weird screaming. You

2139
01:54:27,039 --> 01:54:31,840
know it's and uh, I think that was the first

2140
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:35,640
tracks I've ever found. Hmm. I've been doing I've been

2141
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:37,880
doing so much, uh in the past six years. I

2142
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:42,760
think it was. I think because I remember when I

2143
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:46,359
pulled the leaves out of the the tracks, we it

2144
01:54:46,439 --> 01:54:49,359
looked the right shape or they looked the right shape.

2145
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:53,479
And Peyton was filming, and I was gingerly moving leaves

2146
01:54:53,479 --> 01:54:57,239
out because this Bama can tell you how sandy and silty.

2147
01:54:57,279 --> 01:54:59,720
It's real fine, So I didn't want to mess it up.

2148
01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:02,560
And and when I pulled some out of the front

2149
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:06,319
and I saw toes, I said some ugly words because

2150
01:55:06,399 --> 01:55:11,039
I was so excited. It's just no way. But anyway, yeah,

2151
01:55:11,079 --> 01:55:12,279
I mean that's awesome.

2152
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:13,439
Speaker 2: Did you cast it?

2153
01:55:14,119 --> 01:55:16,880
Speaker 6: No, Bama, do you think you could cast it in

2154
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:20,159
that type of settlement or whatever that's called.

2155
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you really had some And I want to see

2156
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:26,960
what this video here is. But if you had something

2157
01:55:27,119 --> 01:55:31,239
like that, i'd probably maybe put drop some saran wrap

2158
01:55:31,319 --> 01:55:34,399
in it and see if you can just pour it

2159
01:55:34,439 --> 01:55:36,520
into it that way and work it out into all

2160
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:40,359
the the the ridges and stuff. I've heard you're supposed

2161
01:55:40,359 --> 01:55:43,199
to spray it with hairspray and that stuff like that

2162
01:55:43,279 --> 01:55:45,319
works too, but a lot of times people get down

2163
01:55:45,319 --> 01:55:48,279
there too close and when they spread it just blows

2164
01:55:48,359 --> 01:55:54,119
stuff out of the the out of the footprint, you know. Yeah, yeah,

2165
01:55:54,159 --> 01:55:58,640
what is this? Okay? So this is like my first

2166
01:55:59,319 --> 01:55:59,720
foury A.

2167
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:03,159
Speaker 4: So I didn't really start squatching until twenty twenty one,

2168
01:56:03,279 --> 01:56:05,159
and I put up all these cameras on that same

2169
01:56:05,359 --> 01:56:07,680
this is the same drone site property. This is a

2170
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:12,920
different camera, but I wanted to show this because everyone

2171
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:16,800
thinks that you know this right on the tree. Sorry,

2172
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:18,680
I'm on the wrong screen. Let me get on the

2173
01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:21,840
right screen here. So right back here on the tree,

2174
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:25,760
right here where my mouse is, there's a peanut butter

2175
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:28,399
jar that I basically strapped to the tree.

2176
01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:29,960
Speaker 2: Right.

2177
01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:32,520
Speaker 4: But I did an experiment and I said, you know what,

2178
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:35,680
I'm not going to break the seal. The owner who

2179
01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:38,600
gives peanut butter on this property breaks the seal every time.

2180
01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, this black.

2181
01:56:40,359 --> 01:56:43,199
Speaker 4: Line right here, this is another smart thing I'm doing.

2182
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:45,880
So this is nine feet off the ground. I marked

2183
01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:48,039
a nine foot strap, so if I see something walk

2184
01:56:48,119 --> 01:56:50,279
past it, I know that that's nine feet.

2185
01:56:51,199 --> 01:56:54,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, exactly.

2186
01:56:55,800 --> 01:57:01,199
Speaker 4: So I got this bear literally just right past this

2187
01:57:01,359 --> 01:57:06,199
peanut butter jar for like three four months and just

2188
01:57:06,239 --> 01:57:09,600
never smells it, you know, And I'm just like, oh,

2189
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:11,119
he knows where the cameras are.

2190
01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:13,560
Speaker 6: You should have warned me. That's scared to crap out

2191
01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:13,760
of me.

2192
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 2: I'm leaning in. I'm looking holy micro yeah, holy. So

2193
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:23,720
that camera is like six feet off the ground. So

2194
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:25,439
that bear is is a big boy.

2195
01:57:27,239 --> 01:57:30,159
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's so if you if you don't break

2196
01:57:30,159 --> 01:57:33,039
the seal, they I don't know, they don't smell it

2197
01:57:33,119 --> 01:57:33,520
very well.

2198
01:57:34,119 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 2: And then the last thing is.

2199
01:57:36,479 --> 01:57:39,199
Speaker 4: This was uh, this is one of the first fun

2200
01:57:39,279 --> 01:57:41,479
catches I caught on these cameras back in twenty one.

2201
01:57:42,159 --> 01:57:45,359
This is what I call the teleporting bear. And I

2202
01:57:45,479 --> 01:57:49,000
have no idea what's going on here because you'll see

2203
01:57:49,560 --> 01:57:52,000
there's a white streak of light that goes across the

2204
01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:57,319
screen like this, and the streak of light is perfectly timed.

2205
01:57:57,319 --> 01:58:00,720
It just keeps going. But the bear will jump behind

2206
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:01,600
the white streak.

2207
01:58:02,199 --> 01:58:03,319
Speaker 2: So if the if.

2208
01:58:03,279 --> 01:58:07,000
Speaker 4: The film was broken or or the camera wasn't working,

2209
01:58:07,399 --> 01:58:10,520
that white streak would have been broken as well. But

2210
01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:13,720
the bear literally teleports. So here you go the teleporting bear.

2211
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:19,359
So he walks into camera here and less than a

2212
01:58:19,359 --> 01:58:22,520
minute later he'll turn around to walk back and halfway

2213
01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:25,720
up the trail. Everything else in the frame is going

2214
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:31,159
to be totally normal, except the bear teleports.

2215
01:58:32,239 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 2: Fifteen. I think there is white streak come in that nutty.

2216
01:58:49,279 --> 01:58:52,600
Speaker 6: And and the moft that's flying by stays the same.

2217
01:58:53,079 --> 01:59:00,119
Speaker 8: Yep, um, it's like a weird uh glitch yeah to

2218
01:59:00,279 --> 01:59:03,920
the matrix For people listening, it's almost like it's a

2219
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:05,600
weird pixelation or.

2220
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 2: Something for just a second. But it's but it's only

2221
01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:09,560
in that one spot.

2222
01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:13,960
Speaker 6: Yep, and and and and like I said, you watch

2223
01:59:14,039 --> 01:59:17,520
that moth fly from left to right. Correct, it doesn't

2224
01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:18,920
it doesn't glitch. O.

2225
01:59:19,119 --> 01:59:23,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's per and and it's close and you

2226
01:59:23,119 --> 01:59:26,560
can see fine detail in it as it flies back

2227
01:59:26,680 --> 01:59:30,479
and just go straight back. Yeah. And I don't know

2228
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:31,920
what's going Is it good evidence?

2229
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:35,279
Speaker 6: No, weird, it's weird.

2230
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:39,199
Speaker 2: It's very weird. Man.

2231
01:59:39,319 --> 01:59:42,760
Speaker 6: What what did dog say about?

2232
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:47,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, yeah, it was just one of

2233
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:51,359
the fun things I saw. But all right, I can quick.

2234
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:53,439
That's all I got for the screen stuff.

2235
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:55,239
Speaker 4: I have a bunch of audio, but since we don't

2236
01:59:55,239 --> 01:59:58,359
have any audio, I'm just gonna we can kill that.

2237
01:59:58,600 --> 02:00:03,520
Speaker 2: So all she did stand before we uh you know,

2238
02:00:04,039 --> 02:00:09,840
before I forgot about it. Uh, this New York experience

2239
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:12,520
that you had, it's probably the most recent. I was

2240
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:14,720
wanted if you could go over that with us.

2241
02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:22,239
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a that's a real head scratcher, all right, So, uh,

2242
02:00:22,279 --> 02:00:24,359
A lady in New York has got a lot of

2243
02:00:24,399 --> 02:00:26,920
big foot activity on her property, and she wanted me

2244
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:28,760
to help her out and put a bunch of cameras up.

2245
02:00:29,239 --> 02:00:29,479
Speaker 1: Uh.

2246
02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:31,199
Speaker 4: So I went out there with a bunch of gear,

2247
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:35,880
installed the starlink system for he got all these cameras

2248
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:36,720
mounted on the house.

2249
02:00:37,079 --> 02:00:39,600
Speaker 2: But basically on the.

2250
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:42,079
Speaker 4: Way out there, I got. I arrived a day early,

2251
02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:45,439
so the landowner of the homeowner didn't know I was

2252
02:00:45,479 --> 02:00:49,159
going to be there. Luckily, she had a key hidden

2253
02:00:49,640 --> 02:00:51,439
and she told me where to find it. I got

2254
02:00:51,439 --> 02:00:54,520
the key, I got into the place, I was all alone.

2255
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:57,640
I unloaded my car, and of course all of us know,

2256
02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:03,359
something always happens on day one, right, So I wasn't

2257
02:01:03,359 --> 02:01:07,079
really ready for any camera action. And I really didn't

2258
02:01:07,119 --> 02:01:09,319
want to change the environment too much on the day

2259
02:01:09,359 --> 02:01:11,600
one either, so I didn't really want to throw cameras up.

2260
02:01:12,439 --> 02:01:15,760
But I put an audio recorder out. Actually you know what, Yeah,

2261
02:01:15,800 --> 02:01:19,560
I can show you that one. Never mind, So anyways,

2262
02:01:19,600 --> 02:01:22,159
I put an audio recorder out on the stair the

2263
02:01:22,239 --> 02:01:24,960
ledge of the stair well, so it was like five

2264
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:27,319
feet away from the door, maybe not even maybe three

2265
02:01:27,439 --> 02:01:28,439
or and a half four feet.

2266
02:01:28,920 --> 02:01:31,399
Speaker 2: But I went to.

2267
02:01:31,359 --> 02:01:34,840
Speaker 4: Bed and I timestamped the As I walked out and

2268
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:37,560
placed the recorder, I said, it's ten fifty six. I

2269
02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:40,720
just got unloaded. I'm super tired from driving. I am

2270
02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:43,359
going to call it a night. And I basically just

2271
02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:46,920
put the camera, the recorder out, audio the Zoomer audio recorder,

2272
02:01:47,199 --> 02:01:50,319
and I just went to bed. And I was super chill.

2273
02:01:50,399 --> 02:01:53,399
I wasn't I wasn't anxious or I wasn't freaked out

2274
02:01:53,399 --> 02:01:56,520
that I was there alone. I didn't know what to expect,

2275
02:01:56,920 --> 02:01:58,800
you know. I really hadn't done any research on the

2276
02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:02,319
place at all. I didn't honestly think anything was gonna happen,

2277
02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:06,399
you know. And I was laying out, laying in bed

2278
02:02:06,439 --> 02:02:09,159
looking out the window was a full full moon, really bright,

2279
02:02:09,560 --> 02:02:11,680
and I was kind of going, that would be really

2280
02:02:11,720 --> 02:02:14,560
cool if I saw a bigfoot shadow across the window tonight,

2281
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:17,399
Like that would that would make my day, right, And

2282
02:02:17,399 --> 02:02:19,199
that's how I went to bed with a big smile

2283
02:02:19,279 --> 02:02:19,960
on my face.

2284
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:21,239
Speaker 2: Going like that would be really fun.

2285
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:24,319
Speaker 4: One thirty in the morning, I got woke up to

2286
02:02:24,479 --> 02:02:29,279
something I can only explain as a brage of fists

2287
02:02:29,399 --> 02:02:32,880
smacking the side of the house. Because this house was

2288
02:02:33,079 --> 02:02:35,760
open architecture in the middle. It was like a big

2289
02:02:35,800 --> 02:02:39,479
bass drum. It just the whole house shook and it

2290
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:40,760
was rock concert loud.

2291
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:43,399
Speaker 2: I mean, it was really crazy loud.

2292
02:02:44,199 --> 02:02:48,560
Speaker 4: I literally like fell out of bed and hid between

2293
02:02:48,640 --> 02:02:52,640
the two beds, grabbed my phone and I was just like,

2294
02:02:52,720 --> 02:02:56,199
what's going on? And the thing lasted for like fifteen seconds,

2295
02:02:56,399 --> 02:02:59,600
and if you count to fifteen slowly, that's a long time.

2296
02:03:00,119 --> 02:03:03,119
Speaker 2: It's a long time. That's a really long time.

2297
02:03:03,159 --> 02:03:06,800
Speaker 4: And my brain was just going, like, Okay, I hope

2298
02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:07,760
they're not going to break in.

2299
02:03:08,199 --> 02:03:09,239
Speaker 2: I don't think they will.

2300
02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:12,079
Speaker 4: There's not very many, you know, very many times when

2301
02:03:12,119 --> 02:03:14,960
they enter the structures. You know, I'm like, I think,

2302
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:17,399
I'm okay, when is this going to end?

2303
02:03:18,039 --> 02:03:20,520
Speaker 2: Is it ever gonna end? Why they say so mad

2304
02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:20,760
at me?

2305
02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:22,960
Speaker 4: I'm like all of these things were going through my head,

2306
02:03:23,359 --> 02:03:27,159
but you know the point is, and when I get done,

2307
02:03:27,680 --> 02:03:30,039
it was nutty. I mean, I was, where's my phone now?

2308
02:03:30,680 --> 02:03:33,319
I don't even know anyways, I'll pretend it's my phone.

2309
02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:37,680
My hand I was shaking like this. I could barely

2310
02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:40,600
unlock my phone. And I have never had that much

2311
02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:44,279
adrenaline and that much fear. It was weird because I

2312
02:03:44,319 --> 02:03:47,399
don't get that scared that often. And I was just

2313
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:50,960
like insanely and I was my brain was calm, but

2314
02:03:51,039 --> 02:03:51,760
my body was.

2315
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:52,840
Speaker 2: Just full of adrenaline.

2316
02:03:53,319 --> 02:03:57,000
Speaker 4: And I basically called Doug right away, and Doug's like,

2317
02:03:57,319 --> 02:03:58,800
you gotta go out and get the recorder.

2318
02:03:58,840 --> 02:04:01,800
Speaker 2: And I'm like no, no, no, not yet, not yet.

2319
02:04:02,039 --> 02:04:05,640
Speaker 9: Oh no, no'm I'm like no, no, no, not yet,

2320
02:04:06,199 --> 02:04:06,880
do not call me.

2321
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:07,359
Speaker 2: I just don't.

2322
02:04:07,359 --> 02:04:09,000
Speaker 4: I don't want even I want them to think I'm

2323
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:11,279
still asleep. I just I can't handle this. This is

2324
02:04:11,359 --> 02:04:15,640
just intense, and so being a real researcher, I should

2325
02:04:15,680 --> 02:04:17,600
have just jumped out of bed, ran out the door,

2326
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:19,720
and like looked at what was going on.

2327
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:25,439
Speaker 6: Anyways, that's I mean, don't beat yourself up over that

2328
02:04:25,560 --> 02:04:31,279
because fifteen seconds long. I don't if Doug told me

2329
02:04:31,279 --> 02:04:35,239
about it or you told me, but I think he

2330
02:04:35,359 --> 02:04:38,880
contacted me. Said I don't freaking out. I was beating

2331
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:42,560
outside of the house. Yeah, no, that's Look, if they

2332
02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:46,359
want to come in, you've seen how you know, if

2333
02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:49,000
they're big, they can come in. Yeah. So do you

2334
02:04:49,039 --> 02:04:52,439
think maybe I heard you talk about this? Do you

2335
02:04:52,479 --> 02:04:58,399
think you were there? She wasn't there, and maybe they

2336
02:04:58,439 --> 02:05:01,359
were trying to run you off. Yeah, they didn't know

2337
02:05:01,399 --> 02:05:02,039
the situation.

2338
02:05:02,319 --> 02:05:05,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the fact you saw the car and I

2339
02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:09,039
was pulling the ATVs right while I was there. Over

2340
02:05:09,079 --> 02:05:11,399
the next couple of days, I realized that there was

2341
02:05:11,439 --> 02:05:13,560
an ATV track nearby.

2342
02:05:14,279 --> 02:05:16,159
Speaker 2: And from what I learned from.

2343
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:20,880
Speaker 4: From Greg Greg House, they hate motorcycles. They hate loud noises,

2344
02:05:21,279 --> 02:05:24,000
they hate those sounds. And I can imagine if you've

2345
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:26,239
got a if you've got a bunch of humans, you know,

2346
02:05:26,319 --> 02:05:30,439
screaming their motorcycles around your home, you know you're not

2347
02:05:30,439 --> 02:05:33,239
gonna like them either. So maybe they knew what the

2348
02:05:33,279 --> 02:05:36,000
ATVs were, and maybe they knew that I had them,

2349
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:39,079
and they didn't want me there. Maybe the homeowner said

2350
02:05:39,119 --> 02:05:41,720
they didn't like men, so maybe they just didn't like men.

2351
02:05:42,239 --> 02:05:44,359
I was there without the homeowner, so maybe they were

2352
02:05:44,399 --> 02:05:47,720
protecting the property and maybe they just saw me break in,

2353
02:05:48,119 --> 02:05:48,920
you know, kind of deal.

2354
02:05:50,039 --> 02:05:51,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what the reason, maybe all three of.

2355
02:05:51,840 --> 02:05:56,319
Speaker 4: Them, for all three three reasons possible, whatever was happening,

2356
02:05:56,439 --> 02:05:59,399
they I could tell they were angry, you know, and

2357
02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:01,359
they wanted to scare the crap out of me, and

2358
02:06:01,359 --> 02:06:01,680
they did.

2359
02:06:02,079 --> 02:06:05,680
Speaker 6: And that's another point. I don't know if this is clear,

2360
02:06:07,640 --> 02:06:09,479
how many do you think it was? Because they were

2361
02:06:09,479 --> 02:06:14,039
spread down the wall. It wasn't just one.

2362
02:06:13,119 --> 02:06:15,600
Speaker 4: Because and I know there was more than one because

2363
02:06:15,640 --> 02:06:19,359
of how fast the fists were hitting, Like if it

2364
02:06:19,439 --> 02:06:22,279
was a bang bang bang bang, I would have thought

2365
02:06:22,279 --> 02:06:23,039
it was just one.

2366
02:06:23,560 --> 02:06:28,239
Speaker 2: But it was rapid fire. It was machine gun, and there.

2367
02:06:28,199 --> 02:06:31,119
Speaker 4: Was like so many fists going on, and it was

2368
02:06:31,199 --> 02:06:33,920
so loud, and it was just like what the hell,

2369
02:06:34,159 --> 02:06:37,800
you know? And the sad part is I get out there.

2370
02:06:37,840 --> 02:06:40,319
I retrieve the recorder after I flip on all the

2371
02:06:40,399 --> 02:06:41,880
lights and work up the courage.

2372
02:06:42,119 --> 02:06:44,000
Speaker 2: Doug is on the phone with me. I'm like, okay, if.

2373
02:06:43,880 --> 02:06:46,439
Speaker 4: I get eaten, you know, you're at least gonna hear

2374
02:06:46,479 --> 02:06:48,880
the results, but you're gonna hear the screen, you know.

2375
02:06:49,199 --> 02:06:52,479
So I get the recorder in and I'm shaking still.

2376
02:06:52,520 --> 02:06:55,520
I load the cards into the computer and I bring

2377
02:06:55,600 --> 02:06:58,520
up the waveforms and I see the beginning has a

2378
02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:01,479
spike and the end as a spike, and I play

2379
02:07:01,560 --> 02:07:04,439
the beginning spike and it's me talking about the time

2380
02:07:04,520 --> 02:07:07,199
and how tired I was, and the end spike is

2381
02:07:07,239 --> 02:07:08,359
ME picking it up, going.

2382
02:07:08,199 --> 02:07:10,319
Speaker 2: Like I just went through something really crazy.

2383
02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:13,119
Speaker 4: I gotta get, you know, and and I'm like, where's

2384
02:07:13,119 --> 02:07:17,119
the middle, what's happening? What's where's the middle? At nothing?

2385
02:07:17,600 --> 02:07:20,880
There was crickets, there was frog farts from thirty feet away,

2386
02:07:21,199 --> 02:07:24,439
there was owls, there was you know, everything on that

2387
02:07:24,479 --> 02:07:28,279
recorder except except a barrage of rock concert fists. And

2388
02:07:29,479 --> 02:07:33,359
so now I'm like, Okay, that's the first time that

2389
02:07:33,479 --> 02:07:37,159
I've been thrust into the paranormal world. And I'm like, okay,

2390
02:07:37,199 --> 02:07:39,399
did they plant implant that in my brain?

2391
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:40,920
Speaker 2: Only? Did they?

2392
02:07:41,199 --> 02:07:44,920
Speaker 4: Did I slip into another time zone or a different

2393
02:07:45,039 --> 02:07:47,399
dimension where it happened, and then I slipped back to

2394
02:07:47,439 --> 02:07:48,239
my own dimension.

2395
02:07:48,359 --> 02:07:51,840
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. It's like these you set

2396
02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:54,920
up cameras and all the stuff the next day and

2397
02:07:54,960 --> 02:08:00,079
get everything right. And what came of that, Well.

2398
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:04,439
Speaker 4: The homeowner came down the next day, and they came

2399
02:08:04,479 --> 02:08:08,760
down with their son, who is a grown person. And

2400
02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:12,239
the point is I had him physically fit, you know,

2401
02:08:12,800 --> 02:08:16,399
over thirty years old, went outside. He banged the heck

2402
02:08:16,439 --> 02:08:19,479
out of the sighting, and he sounded like a toddler

2403
02:08:19,880 --> 02:08:22,039
compared to those fists that I heard the night before.

2404
02:08:22,640 --> 02:08:25,800
I mean, it wasn't even close. And I'm like, are

2405
02:08:25,840 --> 02:08:28,000
you banging as hard as you can? He's like yeah.

2406
02:08:28,159 --> 02:08:30,439
I'm like, that is nothing compared to what I heard

2407
02:08:30,520 --> 02:08:30,960
last night.

2408
02:08:31,640 --> 02:08:35,600
Speaker 6: And so when he was when he was banging and testing,

2409
02:08:36,319 --> 02:08:39,119
did it sound like he was lowered down on the walls? Yes?

2410
02:08:39,800 --> 02:08:42,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he had to read. It sounded like

2411
02:08:42,359 --> 02:08:44,119
he was like on the ground level.

2412
02:08:44,199 --> 02:08:47,039
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the banging was from way up high.

2413
02:08:47,239 --> 02:08:50,680
Speaker 4: It sounded like yeah. So anyways, that's something too. But

2414
02:08:51,279 --> 02:08:54,159
there was a weird thing that happened that night. Actually

2415
02:08:54,159 --> 02:08:55,960
I want to say it was the next night, and

2416
02:08:56,000 --> 02:09:02,319
that goes into the whole paranormal thing again. The the

2417
02:09:02,319 --> 02:09:05,640
the sun was sleeping in the room next to me, right,

2418
02:09:06,039 --> 02:09:08,800
so there's a wall dividing the two of us, and

2419
02:09:08,840 --> 02:09:15,520
the mom's sleeping upstairs, and I hear the sun yell mom,

2420
02:09:15,920 --> 02:09:18,960
and it sounded kind of urgent, right, and I'm like,

2421
02:09:19,079 --> 02:09:22,079
what the heck? So I'm just like, I'm gonna stay

2422
02:09:22,079 --> 02:09:22,439
out of this.

2423
02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:23,520
Speaker 2: He asked for his mom.

2424
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:26,159
Speaker 4: You know, mom came running down the stairs.

2425
02:09:26,199 --> 02:09:26,920
Speaker 2: She heard it too.

2426
02:09:27,399 --> 02:09:30,760
Speaker 4: She starts knocking on the door and she's like, you know,

2427
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:31,760
let me in, let me in.

2428
02:09:31,840 --> 02:09:32,359
Speaker 2: What's going on?

2429
02:09:32,399 --> 02:09:35,560
Speaker 4: What's happening he's not answering. I step out into the hall.

2430
02:09:35,640 --> 02:09:39,479
I'm like, what's what's happening? And he's not making a peep.

2431
02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:42,680
So she goes and gets a lock pick. I'm knocking

2432
02:09:42,720 --> 02:09:44,880
on the door and I'm like, dude, dude, you okay,

2433
02:09:45,279 --> 02:09:47,640
make you know, talk to us. We're gonna we're coming in.

2434
02:09:47,920 --> 02:09:51,560
You know, we're gonna unlock the door. We popped the

2435
02:09:51,600 --> 02:09:55,960
door open, and he's I fully expected it to be gone,

2436
02:09:56,119 --> 02:09:57,279
like physically just gone.

2437
02:09:57,920 --> 02:10:00,920
Speaker 2: He's sitting there on the bed call. He looks over it, like,

2438
02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:01,720
what the heck are you.

2439
02:10:01,640 --> 02:10:05,319
Speaker 4: Guys doing, and we're like, we're here to assist you.

2440
02:10:05,880 --> 02:10:06,880
Speaker 2: We heard you yell.

2441
02:10:07,600 --> 02:10:09,720
Speaker 4: He goes, I didn't yell, what the heck are you

2442
02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:13,760
talking about? And we were both freaked out because both of.

2443
02:10:13,760 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 2: Us heard no, no, no, And.

2444
02:10:16,720 --> 02:10:19,319
Speaker 4: That's exactly what he said. He's like, I ain't staying

2445
02:10:19,359 --> 02:10:22,680
down in this room. Up to the other bedroom upstairs.

2446
02:10:22,680 --> 02:10:24,880
He's like, I'm getting the heck out of here, and

2447
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:27,079
I'm just like, okay, great, leave me next to the

2448
02:10:27,159 --> 02:10:31,920
room where the freaky So I don't know what's going

2449
02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:34,159
on at that place, but something's going on there, and

2450
02:10:34,199 --> 02:10:37,359
I don't know if it's you know, the homeowner has

2451
02:10:37,399 --> 02:10:42,239
some pretty compelling pictures of sasquatches through trees, so I want.

2452
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:43,039
Speaker 2: To say a sasquatch.

2453
02:10:43,600 --> 02:10:47,239
Speaker 4: But at the same time, when I'm hearing voices. Oh,

2454
02:10:47,520 --> 02:10:50,680
but you guys just made me think of this. Sasquatches

2455
02:10:50,720 --> 02:10:54,680
can imitate voices. I didn't even think about that. I

2456
02:10:54,720 --> 02:10:58,680
wonder if it was a squatch. I always thought it

2457
02:10:58,680 --> 02:11:00,680
was a ghost or paranormal. But you're right, maybe it

2458
02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:01,399
was a squatch.

2459
02:11:01,760 --> 02:11:02,479
Speaker 2: So you.

2460
02:11:04,199 --> 02:11:06,800
Speaker 6: So it sounded like it came from his room though, right.

2461
02:11:06,720 --> 02:11:12,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean and and I I would have just

2462
02:11:12,640 --> 02:11:15,399
been like, okay, I'm imagining things, but she came running

2463
02:11:15,399 --> 02:11:17,359
down the stairs she heard it too, Ye.

2464
02:11:20,439 --> 02:11:25,239
Speaker 6: I do. I do know this when you're in these strange,

2465
02:11:25,319 --> 02:11:29,079
these places where things happen no matter what they are. Mhm,

2466
02:11:29,479 --> 02:11:33,000
it's sometimes it's so strange you can't even wrap your

2467
02:11:33,000 --> 02:11:37,239
head around it, you know, with the orbs and hearing hearing.

2468
02:11:37,520 --> 02:11:40,359
People have said, you know, they've heard their name called,

2469
02:11:41,960 --> 02:11:44,520
uh and not all not. I think I heard my

2470
02:11:44,600 --> 02:11:48,079
name called like clear, you know, so man.

2471
02:11:49,640 --> 02:11:53,119
Speaker 2: Yeah and so, but so he asked why didn't he

2472
02:11:53,119 --> 02:11:55,119
hear it? Like I don't know?

2473
02:11:56,800 --> 02:12:01,640
Speaker 4: And even weirder. This is even weirder on their way home.

2474
02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:05,079
They had a several hundred mile drive. On their way home,

2475
02:12:06,199 --> 02:12:08,039
the mother said she heard the same thing.

2476
02:12:07,920 --> 02:12:09,119
Speaker 2: At one of the restops.

2477
02:12:09,319 --> 02:12:12,079
Speaker 4: She heard her yell mom, and she went up to

2478
02:12:12,159 --> 02:12:13,479
him and he didn't say it.

2479
02:12:14,720 --> 02:12:15,760
Speaker 6: So that's wow.

2480
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:17,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was And I'm like, I don't know,

2481
02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:20,720
you know, that's the part that makes me think it's

2482
02:12:20,840 --> 02:12:23,680
paranormal and it's following them rather than sasquatch.

2483
02:12:24,079 --> 02:12:28,640
Speaker 6: So they've they called you up there? What kind of

2484
02:12:28,720 --> 02:12:33,119
issues were they having, right, I mean, obviously they were

2485
02:12:33,119 --> 02:12:34,920
scared of something.

2486
02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:38,640
Speaker 4: Well they Okay, the house was built fourteen years ago

2487
02:12:39,119 --> 02:12:42,159
and they've had activity all with all the kids growing

2488
02:12:42,239 --> 02:12:44,199
up there. The kids are all in their thirties or

2489
02:12:44,359 --> 02:12:47,239
late twenties or whatever. So they've been living there since,

2490
02:12:47,319 --> 02:12:50,319
you know, and that's their their mountain house.

2491
02:12:51,000 --> 02:12:51,279
Speaker 1: Right.

2492
02:12:52,119 --> 02:12:54,720
Speaker 4: It's like I said, it's about twenty minutes away from

2493
02:12:54,720 --> 02:12:58,199
an Applebee's, but it backs up to hundreds of acres

2494
02:12:58,640 --> 02:13:03,279
you know, of forest land. So uh, yeah, it's in

2495
02:13:03,319 --> 02:13:06,119
New York. But I'm it's undisclosed, so I can't I

2496
02:13:06,119 --> 02:13:10,199
can think about that information. But yeah, so the bottom

2497
02:13:10,199 --> 02:13:15,279
line is that you know they had activity, and they've

2498
02:13:15,279 --> 02:13:17,960
had house laps, but they were just one or two,

2499
02:13:18,159 --> 02:13:20,840
just like in Snow Grove. You know, it wasn't this

2500
02:13:20,960 --> 02:13:24,479
barrage of fists. And the sad part is I know

2501
02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:27,279
that the barrage of fists didn't happen because the zoom

2502
02:13:27,279 --> 02:13:30,279
recorder would have picked it up. So it only happened

2503
02:13:30,319 --> 02:13:30,920
in my brain.

2504
02:13:31,640 --> 02:13:36,439
Speaker 6: And but but did you feel the vibration?

2505
02:13:37,039 --> 02:13:40,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it woke before. I have a CPAP.

2506
02:13:40,720 --> 02:13:43,079
Speaker 4: I sleep with a little white noise the generator on

2507
02:13:43,119 --> 02:13:46,880
my face, and I sleep through atomic blasts, and this

2508
02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:48,640
thing shook me out of bed.

2509
02:13:50,560 --> 02:13:53,800
Speaker 6: Do you think if if you're let's let's for giggles,

2510
02:13:54,199 --> 02:13:57,279
if you were just dreaming something like that and you

2511
02:13:57,319 --> 02:14:02,399
were awake, it woke you up, but you with the

2512
02:14:02,479 --> 02:14:06,600
audible sounds, you knew that kind of where they were

2513
02:14:06,640 --> 02:14:09,600
on the wall. Then you fill in the vibration with

2514
02:14:09,760 --> 02:14:14,840
your body. I would think that would be out not

2515
02:14:15,159 --> 02:14:17,880
inside your head, right, wouldn't that be make sense?

2516
02:14:18,119 --> 02:14:23,560
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, right, It lasted so long for fifteen

2517
02:14:23,600 --> 02:14:26,079
seconds that I was able to get out of bed,

2518
02:14:26,640 --> 02:14:31,439
grab my phone, position myself between the between the two beds,

2519
02:14:31,840 --> 02:14:35,960
fully conscious, and it was still going right, and I

2520
02:14:36,079 --> 02:14:38,680
was wide awake when and I was I should have

2521
02:14:38,760 --> 02:14:40,000
hit record on my phone.

2522
02:14:40,279 --> 02:14:41,319
Speaker 2: Didn't even think about that.

2523
02:14:41,920 --> 02:14:46,720
Speaker 6: But that's that's y'all. I'm telling you when when you're

2524
02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:49,760
in a stressful situation, I don't care if it's bigfoot

2525
02:14:49,840 --> 02:14:53,279
or what. I fell out here one day. This house

2526
02:14:53,359 --> 02:14:56,600
was built in seventy one. I've got concrete steps. I

2527
02:14:56,720 --> 02:14:59,720
was walking out one morning and those concrete steps collapsed.

2528
02:15:00,720 --> 02:15:04,520
I fell and hurt my reb. I couldn't dial on

2529
02:15:04,560 --> 02:15:07,000
my phone for ten to fifteen minutes. I couldn't even

2530
02:15:07,000 --> 02:15:09,720
think what numbers are names or I was in so

2531
02:15:09,840 --> 02:15:12,079
much pain, and so I was scared of my to

2532
02:15:12,079 --> 02:15:15,119
punctured along. I'm just saying it was a stressful situation.

2533
02:15:15,760 --> 02:15:17,880
And people want you to take pictures and videos and

2534
02:15:18,319 --> 02:15:20,159
turn on a recorder. It ain't happening.

2535
02:15:20,399 --> 02:15:23,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Luckily I had a recorder out. Unluckily it didn't

2536
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:26,520
capture anything. So now I'm in a weird voodoo land.

2537
02:15:26,920 --> 02:15:32,119
Speaker 6: Well that's that's information too. I mean, it obviously was working, yep.

2538
02:15:32,880 --> 02:15:36,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, So and the file was complete, and I even

2539
02:15:36,800 --> 02:15:39,520
I timestamped it, and then I timestamped it at the

2540
02:15:39,600 --> 02:15:41,720
end and I matched up the length and the length

2541
02:15:41,800 --> 02:15:44,439
was exactly the right time stamps. So I did all

2542
02:15:44,479 --> 02:15:47,600
that work and it all was perfect, and the recording

2543
02:15:47,680 --> 02:15:50,039
just didn't show it. Now what's interesting is I sent

2544
02:15:50,079 --> 02:15:53,520
that recording off to Chris and he said, I listened

2545
02:15:53,520 --> 02:15:55,800
to where you said the time where the beating happened,

2546
02:15:56,239 --> 02:15:59,000
and he goes, I can hear them walking through the

2547
02:15:59,039 --> 02:16:03,119
woods right before that, so he can hear them bipedal

2548
02:16:03,199 --> 02:16:07,479
coming down, but he can't, you know. And there was

2549
02:16:07,520 --> 02:16:10,199
some damage on the siding. But I did look around

2550
02:16:10,239 --> 02:16:13,119
the next morning and the grass wasn't disturbed or matted down,

2551
02:16:13,239 --> 02:16:16,119
and you know, but I'm just like, wow, So there's

2552
02:16:16,159 --> 02:16:19,479
a little bit of physical evidence. But you know, I

2553
02:16:19,520 --> 02:16:22,199
didn't take pictures of the house before when I first

2554
02:16:22,239 --> 02:16:25,319
got there. I don't know if it happens like weeks

2555
02:16:25,319 --> 02:16:28,560
ago or years earlier, or if it happened that night.

2556
02:16:28,720 --> 02:16:31,680
Speaker 6: So and did you say how high up? It was?

2557
02:16:32,319 --> 02:16:32,879
Speaker 2: Very high up?

2558
02:16:32,959 --> 02:16:37,040
Speaker 4: Yeah it was about almost fifteen feet up. Yeah, Yeah,

2559
02:16:37,079 --> 02:16:39,040
it was way up there. Because when I did my

2560
02:16:39,120 --> 02:16:42,280
initial search, I looked, I looked at eight to ten fifteen,

2561
02:16:42,440 --> 02:16:45,000
eight to twelve feet. You know, I didn't see any

2562
02:16:45,040 --> 02:16:47,399
damage It was the last day when I was actually

2563
02:16:47,399 --> 02:16:49,840
putting cameras way out in the field. I was actually

2564
02:16:49,879 --> 02:16:52,079
coming back to the house and I could see the

2565
02:16:52,120 --> 02:16:55,760
whole house, you know, from afar, and I noticed something

2566
02:16:55,840 --> 02:16:58,040
up up towards the top, and as I got closer,

2567
02:16:58,079 --> 02:16:59,680
I realized that was the damage.

2568
02:17:00,280 --> 02:17:04,079
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it was way up there. So wow, yep,

2569
02:17:04,200 --> 02:17:04,920
weird stuff.

2570
02:17:05,520 --> 02:17:08,000
Speaker 6: Obama, you have aing more questions before we go. We

2571
02:17:08,000 --> 02:17:09,079
could talk to him for.

2572
02:17:11,239 --> 02:17:13,680
Speaker 2: Not really, I just I thought it was great. I

2573
02:17:13,760 --> 02:17:17,000
really appreciated him, you know, bringing all the video stuff.

2574
02:17:17,040 --> 02:17:19,200
I wish we could have got some of the audio up,

2575
02:17:19,280 --> 02:17:23,360
but uh man, that just made it that much better.

2576
02:17:23,760 --> 02:17:25,639
Speaker 6: The only way I know how to do that is

2577
02:17:25,680 --> 02:17:28,479
get a file, you know, like emailed or whatever, and

2578
02:17:28,479 --> 02:17:33,319
then upload it. But I've done that before, but it

2579
02:17:33,479 --> 02:17:36,040
but that's the thing. You don't unless you trust somebody,

2580
02:17:36,280 --> 02:17:38,200
you don't want to spread it spread it around. I

2581
02:17:38,239 --> 02:17:44,079
totally understand that. Yeah, but Adam, thank you. It was

2582
02:17:44,239 --> 02:17:46,639
It was nice meeting you. And if you get down

2583
02:17:46,680 --> 02:17:50,239
this way again, Hollered, holler at me and Bama for

2584
02:17:51,079 --> 02:17:51,559
next year.

2585
02:17:51,959 --> 02:17:53,760
Speaker 4: I should come down again next year. This year is

2586
02:17:53,760 --> 02:17:55,360
all booked up, but I'll try to make it down

2587
02:17:55,399 --> 02:17:56,159
next year, for sure.

2588
02:17:56,239 --> 02:17:58,520
Speaker 2: Man, you need to come down sometime when it's lut

2589
02:17:59,120 --> 02:18:02,239
don't come down like when it's now. I mean this, humanities,

2590
02:18:02,840 --> 02:18:05,719
what's kill interrupt here? Sucks?

2591
02:18:05,719 --> 02:18:07,440
Speaker 4: I should come down there during the winter, shouldn't.

2592
02:18:07,440 --> 02:18:11,319
Speaker 2: I seriously? I love winter camping. Me and Kill love

2593
02:18:11,360 --> 02:18:16,040
winter camping, and is my summer camping. So yeah, I

2594
02:18:16,159 --> 02:18:19,479
tell people I go, man, my birthdays and you know,

2595
02:18:19,600 --> 02:18:21,680
my birthdays and cold, Well you can come down and

2596
02:18:21,719 --> 02:18:23,639
go camping with me, you know. Well.

2597
02:18:23,680 --> 02:18:28,440
Speaker 6: The best part about uh, the cold colder air or

2598
02:18:28,479 --> 02:18:31,120
whatever is you don't have to worry about snakes that

2599
02:18:31,239 --> 02:18:32,239
frees you up a little bit.

2600
02:18:32,360 --> 02:18:35,280
Speaker 2: That's a big thing. Snakes and mosquitoes. Man. You know,

2601
02:18:35,319 --> 02:18:37,239
I've got a heater buddy of my tent. Man, I

2602
02:18:37,239 --> 02:18:39,159
ain't gonna get cold at not, you know.

2603
02:18:40,680 --> 02:18:44,120
Speaker 6: Yeah. So yep, uh, hey man, it's for real. It's

2604
02:18:44,200 --> 02:18:46,120
nice meeting you and.

2605
02:18:45,959 --> 02:18:47,879
Speaker 2: You guys are awesome. Thank you for having me on.

2606
02:18:47,959 --> 02:18:49,000
It was so much fun.

2607
02:18:50,639 --> 02:18:53,920
Speaker 6: It's it's fun to uh, it's fun to have experiences

2608
02:18:54,040 --> 02:18:57,600
even if nothing happened, you know, when we can say,

2609
02:18:57,639 --> 02:18:59,719
you know, Adam Colt and Chris Ryan Hart and Greg

2610
02:18:59,760 --> 02:19:04,040
Howe me and Heather and Budd and Budd and Angie.

2611
02:19:04,399 --> 02:19:07,520
You know, it's just it's it's fun. And yeah, you

2612
02:19:07,639 --> 02:19:10,520
when you got down there, you met you met almost

2613
02:19:10,520 --> 02:19:13,799
the whole crew. So uh and they and and they

2614
02:19:13,840 --> 02:19:14,879
welcomed you in, didn't it.

2615
02:19:15,079 --> 02:19:17,680
Speaker 4: I mean it's like, I mean, yeah, it was like

2616
02:19:17,680 --> 02:19:18,120
coming home.

2617
02:19:18,200 --> 02:19:18,680
Speaker 2: It was great.

2618
02:19:19,120 --> 02:19:22,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, so and and and the story at Flat Rocks,

2619
02:19:22,280 --> 02:19:24,360
you know, we might get into the next time. I

2620
02:19:24,399 --> 02:19:26,680
think Angie and has a.

2621
02:19:26,680 --> 02:19:30,000
Speaker 4: Better story because the guys stay back the girls. Yeah,

2622
02:19:30,040 --> 02:19:32,399
I mean there was physical contact and all sorts of

2623
02:19:32,440 --> 02:19:33,120
stuff going on.

2624
02:19:33,600 --> 02:19:36,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, thermal. She saw something on thermal like twenty feet

2625
02:19:36,520 --> 02:19:40,280
away when everybody passed. It's like they were going to investigate,

2626
02:19:40,360 --> 02:19:43,079
right if I remember correctly. And she's back with a

2627
02:19:43,159 --> 02:19:46,000
thermal and they walked past this thing in the dark

2628
02:19:46,079 --> 02:19:47,440
and never know it's there.

2629
02:19:47,799 --> 02:19:48,079
Speaker 2: Yep.

2630
02:19:48,680 --> 02:19:51,079
Speaker 6: So that's that's a that's a good story for later two.

2631
02:19:51,159 --> 02:19:53,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's that One's not my story. I'll let her,

2632
02:19:54,120 --> 02:19:54,680
I know, I know.

2633
02:19:55,239 --> 02:19:58,840
Speaker 6: All right, Well, all right, guys, thank y'all. Uh, and

2634
02:19:59,159 --> 02:20:02,159
next time, don't call Doug because Doug has a way

2635
02:20:02,200 --> 02:20:07,920
of talking you into dangerous situations. It's like you gotta

2636
02:20:07,959 --> 02:20:10,440
do this now You're like no. The next thing you know,

2637
02:20:10,479 --> 02:20:12,920
you're standing out there in your underwear with Bigfoot trying.

2638
02:20:12,680 --> 02:20:16,120
Speaker 2: To get exactly Then Doug's laughing all the way.

2639
02:20:16,520 --> 02:20:20,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, guess what I told Adam to do. But all right,

2640
02:20:20,479 --> 02:20:22,079
thank you, Byma. I appreciate you, buddy.

2641
02:20:22,319 --> 02:20:26,280
Speaker 2: Once again, thanks to everybody chat that's like our I

2642
02:20:26,399 --> 02:20:30,159
love all people in our chat, so I can't. I'm

2643
02:20:30,200 --> 02:20:32,920
sitting here reading everything, but I wonder respond at then.

2644
02:20:33,159 --> 02:20:36,239
I love y'all, So I'll see you on the next one.

2645
02:20:36,719 --> 02:20:38,959
Speaker 6: Yep. All right, I'm gonna kick out of here, and

2646
02:20:39,040 --> 02:20:44,760
y'all have a good weekend. Safe weekend, and maybe one

2647
02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:46,920
of these days we'll figure out what the deal is

2648
02:20:46,959 --> 02:20:50,280
with the electronics. That's the big that's a big question,

2649
02:20:50,520 --> 02:21:05,799
big question, all right, see y'all.

2650
02:21:09,639 --> 02:21:12,879
Speaker 10: Down in the pines, where the water runs black, where.

2651
02:21:12,680 --> 02:21:15,440
Speaker 6: The moss hags low and the night leans.

2652
02:21:15,120 --> 02:21:19,559
Speaker 11: Back, the stores whisper about a shadow, tall, big feet

2653
02:21:19,639 --> 02:21:21,440
moving where the moon that fault.

2654
02:21:21,920 --> 02:21:24,559
Speaker 10: Some say it be some saved ghost in the trees.

2655
02:21:24,959 --> 02:21:27,719
Speaker 2: Some say it trouble blowing in with the breeze.

2656
02:21:28,159 --> 02:21:30,719
Speaker 10: But around here, man, we know the call, or we

2657
02:21:30,920 --> 02:21:38,440
just calling friends. The squatching howler, so lie that let

2658
02:21:38,479 --> 02:21:40,079
the cat tell shake the.

2659
02:21:40,520 --> 02:21:46,559
Speaker 5: Birth time copper heads wading here Georgia fall. That ain't

2660
02:21:46,600 --> 02:21:50,000
no and it ain't no go when the creek grother's

2661
02:21:50,079 --> 02:21:52,000
cold and the shadows get taller.

2662
02:21:52,159 --> 02:21:54,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're crossing line in the squatting.

2663
02:21:54,440 --> 02:21:57,000
Speaker 6: All it just wal' getting.

2664
02:21:56,719 --> 02:21:57,920
Speaker 5: A brave man fodder.

2665
02:21:58,479 --> 02:22:00,399
Speaker 2: But I mind your stamping. It's watch you.

2666
02:22:02,159 --> 02:22:22,239
Speaker 11: Where, body tell me stories about the thing is sauce

2667
02:22:22,360 --> 02:22:24,079
to ten foot high.

2668
02:22:23,840 --> 02:22:24,559
Speaker 6: With a tomb.

2669
02:22:24,559 --> 02:22:29,319
Speaker 5: But y'all red ice burning like a summer's coat track.

2670
02:22:29,479 --> 02:22:33,600
Speaker 2: Think enough to swallow your sober The old folks laugh, say.

2671
02:22:33,319 --> 02:22:36,399
Speaker 5: Don't you fearfkrit has been living here for.

2672
02:22:36,399 --> 02:22:38,920
Speaker 2: Hundreds of years. Treat them with respect.

2673
02:22:38,959 --> 02:22:41,959
Speaker 10: When the moon gets smaller and they'll let you live

2674
02:22:42,079 --> 02:22:46,879
in squatch and holler sold that fire he let the

2675
02:22:46,920 --> 02:22:48,000
swarm from roll.

2676
02:22:48,120 --> 02:22:51,040
Speaker 5: You can hear that beats right down in your soul.

2677
02:22:51,200 --> 02:22:54,319
If you hear the grun from the river call it

2678
02:22:54,440 --> 02:22:58,280
ain't no boat frout barking the lord little swamp runner

2679
02:22:58,319 --> 02:23:00,639
still and the crickets get after.

2680
02:23:00,520 --> 02:23:02,040
Speaker 4: Yallnight alone, and the.

2681
02:23:02,120 --> 02:23:05,840
Speaker 5: Spotting the weather break by ties in the fools off

2682
02:23:06,040 --> 02:23:07,959
from give watch.

2683
02:23:07,719 --> 02:23:08,719
Speaker 2: On that spotting.

2684
02:23:39,920 --> 02:23:43,799
Speaker 11: Some say gods it old pine ridge. Some say he

2685
02:23:43,959 --> 02:23:45,719
walks from bridge to bridge.

2686
02:23:46,040 --> 02:23:47,239
Speaker 6: The warm things show.

2687
02:23:47,319 --> 02:23:51,159
Speaker 11: When the night comes down, something big still calls.

2688
02:23:51,239 --> 02:23:57,239
Speaker 6: It's grown so bank that f and the night.

2689
02:23:57,239 --> 02:24:01,000
Speaker 11: Get deep at the willows whistle, it's so creech.

2690
02:24:01,079 --> 02:24:02,959
Speaker 2: If you catch us glimpse through.

2691
02:24:02,760 --> 02:24:06,680
Speaker 5: The midnight, holler, just now your head, don't scream.

2692
02:24:06,360 --> 02:24:06,840
Speaker 2: And holler.

2693
02:24:06,920 --> 02:24:10,559
Speaker 5: The brother wild on streaming, and the legends getting taller.

2694
02:24:10,399 --> 02:24:11,639
Speaker 11: Out wherever it wrongs.

2695
02:24:11,719 --> 02:24:15,719
Speaker 5: In squatching Holly, we ain't scared, but we shure stayed

2696
02:24:15,879 --> 02:24:16,760
cautious down

2697
02:24:16,840 --> 02:24:19,120
Speaker 6: In the dock, on that squatching hall,