Speaker 1: Welcome to Squatching Holler.
Speaker 2: In the midst where the trees lean loom.
Speaker 3: Squatching Hollers gotta tell the show.
Speaker 2: Wisps creep like a creature strained out. Every shadows got
a secret to crowd monsters rise? Where the stories are told?
Squatching Holler? Where the legends are born?
Speaker 4: Are they here?
Speaker 5: Are they gone?
Speaker 2: Who can say?
Speaker 3: In the hollow of the true with just slips, useful
prince fade where the creek runs than a lantern sways,
let the search begin, rustling leaves, But there's no one there?
Speaker 2: Is it the wind or the beast?
Speaker 5: You fear? Everyhere goes question, Every Russell's a clue.
Speaker 6: Squatching hollis got its eye on you.
Speaker 5: Monsters w stories are torn?
Speaker 6: Swaps?
Speaker 3: And how where.
Speaker 6: The legends are born?
Speaker 5: Are they? Are they called?
Speaker 2: Who can say?
Speaker 7: And now your hosts welcome you to Squash and Holland
Roger Williams and Amanda Stylist. Remember this podcast can be
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Speaker 6: Hey we're live. Hey everybody, thank you for being here again. Moderators,
everybody in chat, thank y'all. I try not to look
at chat y'all, we're doing the show, y'all know why
I get tickled, and I'll be you know, I won't
be able to say anything. But anyway, which is rare.
So tonight Amanda's doing a presentation in Georgia. She's been
doing that some and she does a great job at it.
So she sent me some pictures from the venue and
she got a really cool setup. So tonight Bama murdocks
feeling and in y'all love Bama. Bama's cool. Uh we
got Adam Cold to be a fun show. He's he's
detect guy and he's say we're in one night at
they'll be all you'll know for the live. And I
had this big idea to go live in at l
Bell and find these signals. So Adam had h what
is it starlink and set it up in about five
minutes when we're own live. So anyway, we're gonna bring
the guys in and uh, Bama is going to be
He's gonna be co hosting, but he's got a lot
of questions, so I'm gonna turn him loose too. And
then Adam don't I never know what expect for him,
so we'll just bring him in. Hey, guys. Hey, guys,
can Bama here is what's up? Thank you, Thank y'all
for being here. It's a yeah, every show is fun,
but it's they're all different too, and you know, Bama
and I've got to know each other and just kind
of accidy and you know, Adam same way, showed up
down here one day and everybody's everybody. Everybody gets along
because we're in this for the same reasons. We're learning,
we're trying to learn, We're trying to learn the truth.
And sometimes we get our feelings hurt. You know, we
figure out something's not what we thought it was, and
that's okay. And well I'm not too proud to say,
you know, I'm misidentified something. And I think these guys
right here the same way.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, many times I've had to do anyway. Yeah,
I'm looking at Chat. Hey, everybody, Chad always.
Speaker 6: I know, I know Bama.
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 6: Yeah? You know, they they make uh, they make it
worth being here. It's just the people in Chat are amazing.
Some great questions come from Chat, so I guess we
can start. I'm only asked Bama's question because I know
what he usually asked. But Adam, what what got you
into this subject, I mean, because is it something that's
always been in the back of your mind or does
something happen to you?
Speaker 2: Well, I grew up in Colorado.
Speaker 4: You can you guys can hear me?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, good? Well before we start, let me say Bama,
so good to see you again. LBO was awesome, really
nice meeting you down there.
Speaker 2: It's it's fun to be on the show.
Speaker 4: So I grew up in Colorado and in a small
little town and climbed the mountains every day. I was
a little fit, little mountain goat kid. And I saw
UFO when I was a kid, so right away I
was like hooked, Like what was that thing in the sky?
And then we kind of we lived in a ghost town,
and seriously like it's called a ghost town, and many
of the houses in town were haunted, including mine, and
I did get to see one ghost one time, and
they were constantly messing with the kitchen and pots and
pans and stuff like that all the time. But I
finally got to see one. So right away, as a
young kid, I believed in ghosts, and I believed in
UFOs and aliens, and so I went out to the
movie theater I saw this video on UFOs Aliens and
of course they put Bigfoot in there too, and that
was probably in the late seventies, and they showed the original,
you know, unstabilized Patterson footage in the movie. And so
I was aware of Bigfoot, but I really wasn't into Bigfoot.
And then my kid came home from school got me
into Bigfoot because he was all into lockdesk, monster room, Like, well,
I can't afford to take you to Scotland's, but what
do we have in the United States you can go
heading for? So I got into Bigfoot early on, but
I was a couch. I was a couch an armchair researcher,
a keyboard warrior, you know what I'm saying. I really
didn't do anything until twenty twenty one. My wife and
I went hiking and we found some tracks, uh and
it was a juvenile and I'm probably the mama bear,
you know, uh, hanging out.
Speaker 2: And they had toes.
Speaker 4: And the interesting thing about being in Minnesota is it's
cold and we have snow, and it was early in
the season, so there was a lot of snow on
the ground. So why would anybody, especially a kid, be
walking around the woods barefoot with snow on, just waiting that.
Speaker 6: And we've a lot of us have experienced that. You
you see something, you say tracks, and your immediately immediately
are like, it's too cold out here. Why would anybody
be running around barefoot in this type of weather? And
it's just that's that's that's probably were more rare than
bigfoot tracks because people are we're cecies as a as
a you know, as a as a people. Nobody does that.
I mean if it's around the house maybe, but out
in these places that Bama goes and you go, it's
just it doesn't make sense. And and I don't I
think we talk about things like that and we just
kind of skim over it, you know, like, no, that's
a very important fact. You know, it's it's Bama. Nos.
You go to a scene and you see every clue
is big, I would think, So, I don't know, why
do we do that? Y'all? Think? Why don't we skim over?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 6: I try to bring attention to the small details when
I hear them, But a lot of people just you know,
especially the fence setters, you know what I mean, They're like, ah,
they don't mean anything, But why do y'all think we do.
Speaker 2: That, you know, go ahead, Bama, it's funny you're talking
about that. The Reading Oval trackway, for example, the first
thing that was ever found was Shelley Reid found these
little small footprints, but they were really deep in the mud. Now,
it wasn't cold or that inclement weather or anything along
that line, But every single one of us looked at
the tracks where they we originally saw them that starting,
and everybody said the same thing. Who would let a
kid walk around out there? Because there's fish hooks out
in that water, there's maybe broken glass out there, so
that just you know, that's just popped out.
Speaker 6: And exactly that's what popped in my head three years
later when I found the trackway, was who would be
out here walking barefoot? Now, now the small detail with
y'all's case, Bama, is it was on the other side.
So they had to walk barefooted at least from that
other parking lot. That's a know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had to walk from the worst place you
could walk barefooted, at the bottom of a boat ramp
in the mud. Everything bad that's in the waterfalls out
at the boat ramp, you know, in the water.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I just I want to throw that in
there because it's a good point.
Speaker 6: It's, uh, you know, I'm I'm wired different, I guess
because I still freak out on how a record player works.
Speaker 4: So you know, that's another reason why I got into this,
because I meet so many great people like you. But
I'm a tech head, so I love to bring technology
to the woods and to this quest.
Speaker 2: And I want to say this to everybody listening. I
always tell Roger and everybody, I kind of do podcasts
for people that are riding in their cars listening or
maybe with their head from in at night in bed,
you know, because I ain't nothing to look at. But uh,
but before we started to show, y'all, uh, we're talking
to Adam. He's like, Hey, I'm going to see you
this such and such, and you know, I'm going to
see you this. And he starts talking all this technical
jog and and all this stuff like that. And I said, Adam,
I said, dude, I said, you start getting too technically.
I said, we're gonna freaking boot you. And I don't
know what. I said, We'll just start yacking. I said, well,
I said, we'll get Dame Greg House on the show.
In three seconds. Yeah, and yea with Greg so but anyway.
Speaker 6: But I know he's joking and I and I am too,
because the thing is always talking about building teams and
you need you need people with different experiences and Adam can.
What he brings to the table is a lot of stuff.
And I just I get, you know, when people he's
said he was like a couch type researcher and that
all of that's important though you know, it's it's, it's
and it's just I don't.
Speaker 4: Well, Roger went on as a couch researcher and I
was just watching bigfoot shows.
Speaker 2: I wasn't really doing much.
Speaker 4: What's really funny is my wife said you My wife
looked over me and said, you're not going to find
bigfoot sitting on the couch.
Speaker 2: And that's what got me out in the buds there.
Speaker 6: You go, well see and said that's she's the important
part of your team. Then she pootied you out into
the woods. So yeah, I mean, so what happened? Uh,
you know, you found tracks and then it I guess
you know, when you when you actually find real evidence
and people can scoff at it or whatever, but you've
already tried to debunk it in your mind, and you're
looking at the evidence. Did it? Did it? Do you
like it does a lot of is it light a fire?
And you?
Speaker 4: For me, I was already a true believer because of
the Patterson footage. So I was just pointing it out
to my wife and I was trying to explain to
her why would any mom let their kid run around
right now in twenty degree weather with no shoes on.
And she kind of got it, but she's still kind
of a skeptic, which is really funny because she's heard
so many things and been around me for so long,
she still is She's not buying into it till she
actually meets one.
Speaker 6: And I understand that I get it.
Speaker 4: Too, and I don't push that on anybody, including my wife.
Speaker 6: So right, and Heather, she's she's experienced they as something else.
We kind of skim over. I told her one day,
I know you haven't seen one, but you've had so
many B and C encounters type that it's almost hard
to talk about because there's people that won't believe it,
you know. And but but she knows. She's been with me,
my son's been with me, and it's to the point
now where it's to her. It's not surprising. Every time
I find something or hear something or whatever is surprising
to me because I know how rare it is. It's
it's a it's a privilege too, or it's like scoring
a touchdown in the super Bowl finding a track. I mean,
that's just the way it is. That's how rare.
Speaker 2: They're rare. Yeah, tracks are rare.
Speaker 4: I will say this though, you maybe do homework today.
Roger oh down and started listing all the things that
I've done in the last five years. And I didn't
realize this, but I've been on twenty five expeditions in
the last five years. And that I mean I've been out,
I've been off the couch.
Speaker 6: So Adam, Adam, you that Southern trip that you took,
there were people would pay oh yeah, big money to
go the play and we'll talk about that. Uh that
was pretty amazing.
Speaker 2: I have an out just covering that. So just get
ready for it, you know. Yeah, And what I have
a bunch of questions about all that.
Speaker 6: And what I'll do is I'll start with you know,
Adam and I meeting, and then I'll let you tear
into your question. So, uh yeah, there's a lot. I
don't know if we can get it all in tonight,
but that but he's Adam's right, I mean you you
follow him on Facebook, You're like, where the hell is
he at?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 6: Like this is cool? So that's I like to see
that because, uh, I know, you know you've been to
places like problem areas where people have called you to
go to. You have pretty terrifying experience here while back
and uh and Adam, Adam experiences the technical glitches when
these things are supposed around too, So it's it's something
to that I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2: But I don't know what it is either anymore.
Speaker 6: Well, that'd be a good question. So from seeing the
film and believing, and then you got the tracks, and
then what the things you've done since twenty twenty has
your idea or theories or changed on these things? What
do you think we're dealing with? Or could it be
multiple things?
Speaker 4: Well, like I've said in previous podcasts, I've always tried
to just stick to the flesh and blood camp, right
and not because I don't believe the WU camp. Are
we calling a WU or high strangeness?
Speaker 6: Whatever? It don't matter if somebody if a troll jumps
in here, We're gonna boot him anyway, So I would.
Speaker 2: Call high strangeness at this point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, So the high strangeness camp is something
I've tried to stay away from because if we're out
in the woods and we're chasing an invisible portal hopping extraterrestrial,
I'm never gonna catch it.
Speaker 2: I don't ever chance.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I got to.
Speaker 4: Say, you know what, I think this is just a
big flesh and blood creature. It leaves tracks, it leaves blood.
We've got blood samples. It leaves, it leaves feces, it
leaves hair, it leaves all this stuff. So we know
that it's physical in form, right, But what else do
we know?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: So I do have an open mind, especially after what
happened to me in New York, which we can get
into a little bit too, okay, but yeah, and now
I have to definitely join the high strange in this camp.
Speaker 7: More.
Speaker 6: Well, it's hard not to at least listen because the
same thing happened to me as happened to you lived
in a haunted house early on saw UFO at seventeen.
So for me to have a closed mind would be hypocritical,
but I'm not. I just tell everybody I don't know either.
I don't know yet. I'm not going to link anything together.
And I know Obama doesn't either. Fight but you know,
you keep it on a shelf over here, just in cage.
But so yeah, go ahead, go ahead, And I think, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Just want to make a comment before we start here too.
I think what drives me a little nuts sometimes about
researchers is when you're just standing there talking to them
and they're just guessing. They're like, this is where they
you know, this is where they do their ceremonies.
Speaker 2: How do you know that? Did you see a ceremony? Right?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it looks cool. It might be a place
for ceremonies, but how do you know that? So I
like to stick with just the more simple facts like oh,
there's a footprint, there's a track.
Speaker 2: Here, you know that kind of deal.
Speaker 4: So the other cool thing is that I was talking
to Chris earlier today, and I want to make sure
that everyone out there knows that I'm not one of
these guys who wants to come to your place and
take it over and steal your research and whatever else
like that.
Speaker 2: I'm just there to help you out.
Speaker 4: If you want me to help you put up some
cameras or some better microphones or install a starlink or whatever. Yeah,
that's what I'm there for. And if I get to
see a big foot on your property, hell yeah, that's
what I'm out there for.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: So there's I guess there's a thing going around in
certain communities that people are like being all weird about.
Speaker 2: I don't want to have them in my head sight
is going to take my stuff?
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know the part the side of it
I understand is people not wanting them stirred up, and
then you're leaving and maybe wanting to protect them a
little bit. But other than the rest of it, you
can if the people that are researching or have the
the right attitude and the right goals, you know, you
shouldn't have to worry about that. And I know y'all
have some ideas that in twenty nineteen, if I'd have
said it around on campfire with you and Chris Rhineheart,
I'm like, what in the world. But now, now, after
doing what we've done, I'm like, yeah, that's a good
that's a great idea. But so you want to you
want to get into a little bit of the Southern trip,
a little bit in Bama.
Speaker 4: You Oh yeah, I mean just getting like getting off
the couch and you know, talking with Doug and getting
to meet people has been the most amazing thing in
the last five years. And it's like every time you
go somewhere, you meet somebody new and so they're like, hey,
come to my spot, Hey do this hang out with me,
or you should get to know blah blah blah, and
so that's led me to everything. So Doug invited me
to go to Snellgrove after my thirty days in the woods,
which was awesome, and that's where I met Chris, and
Chris introduced me to Greg and we got to go
on the Southern Tour. So it's like I get to
meet all these wonderful people, and you write, I have
been to places that people would pay to be.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: I've been up to Banff and I've been out to
you know, the Radium site. I have been to Flat
Rock site. I've been to this you know, the Pennsylvania site.
I've been I've been all over the place. The one
place I haven't gone yet, which was a trip we
scheduled last year that got canceled was the Bluff Creek site.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to go there probably next year, I hope.
But yeah, I'm planning.
Speaker 4: I'm hitting all the big major sites and hopefully even
next year go down to Texas and see the Cells
site as well.
Speaker 2: You know, so.
Speaker 6: Well post plenty of pictures because a lot of us
that can't do that kind of live through you a little.
Speaker 2: Bit, all right, I'll have to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not looking for attention, so I very rarely post.
That's the first time I went live on Facebook in
a long time, and I'm just like, Okay, there are
people watching.
Speaker 2: Maybe I should go live more often.
Speaker 6: Well, uh, what the He texted me and he was
camping at the LBO by himself, and I said, are
you nuts, Bama? Shall it? You don't count?
Speaker 2: I know you.
Speaker 6: I was just figuring out ATAM.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 6: I'm I don't know, y'all. It's it's different. I don't
know why. I just have a some places that they'll
be I feel fine. In other places I'm I'm real
nervous about so. Yeah, And that night that we had
whatever it was that was big and breathing congestively three
foot from my tent. That kind of you know, I
had my dog and my wife with me, and you know,
it changes things. And I'm like, y'all, I knew this
was an active place, but I didn't know this was
gonna come up and get my left pocket. You know,
It's like, what the hell. I don't know what it was,
but it was very big. And later the next morning,
I think Billy Shilling and some of them Gary Spikes
and all of them found a big track and a
gravel bar and the dry creek behind us. So and
that's the way it went. So, you know, I don't
know what it was, but it wasn't nothing I wanted
to tangle with after midnight, you know, in a tent.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: That is one thing about being alone is you don't
have to care for others. So that is kind of
a nice thing. Like if I'm gonna die, it's just
going to be me. And if it's and if I die,
I hopefully somebody will get it on camera and maybe
even me. I don't know live stream it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Well, that's a real thing, Adam. When I had I
got in a situation, I made the decision when I
turned my back to walk out slowly. I kept my
phone recording for that reason. If this, if whatever this is,
gets me, at least maybe they'll have a record of it,
you know. And that's a terrible, terrible feeling. Yeah, but
but it you know, I don't know why some of
us think that way, but I did. I thought I
was recording. But anyway, so all right, we can So
I'll just tell uh, you know, y'all came down, you,
Chris came down, and Bud and I met you at
the man Cave. Yeah, and of course Chris, I met
him for the first time face to face. And it's
just I don't know what it is about this group,
I mean, including you and all the rest of the people.
Everybody just kind of it's it's instant, instant connections, you know.
And I don't know whether it's the experiences that everybody's
had and that you know, you know, that they're real.
Maybe that's part of it, or but you know. And
then I think we went down to Cumbo's and Chris
and I were looking out the back door at the fields.
We I know, y'all are over there listening to audio
and everything, but we Chris and I we were just
watching and really wasn't talking, but we were doing the
same thing. So, yeah, tell us tell us a little
bit about that. Mama, I'm gonna I'm gonna step back
and let you do your thing. So you're so good
at it.
Speaker 2: All right, here's what's interesting. And Chris and I text,
you know, back and forth occasionally a while back, and
I'll be brief with this. Chris is a really good
graphic designer. And you know, some people know that, some
people don't. But he designed my logo for my YouTube
Slingshotting channel, and so he made all my stickers and stuff,
you know, my graphic design for my stick slingshot stickers
I hand out that, you know, kids and stuff. And
so I knew that y'all were making this sweep down
through Alabama and see Greg lives just up the road
from me here. So I had started text and I
was looking at the text today to Chris and I'm like, man,
you know we need to go camping. And He's like, well,
we're just kind of going through because you know, Greg
is in Bankhead National Force. The Land of a Thousand
water Falls, I mean, it's and I told Chris, I, go,
you have to go hiking, you have to understand what
just looks like down in there. Otherwise you're just looking
at pine trees and stuff. So, uh, I wanted to
ask you a bit this about Gregg's place, you know,
while I had the chance to, because I've been there,
lots of other people have been there, Uh, hearing all
the stories about it from people, and say, you get
an image in your mind. I asked everybody this, You
get an image in your mind as to what Greggs
Man Cave looks like on the outside of the surrounding area.
You do get when people start telling stories about it,
you start getting up you in your brain, you get
an idea as to what it looks like around it,
don't you. I want to. I really want to know
what your thought when you first went up there, and
just you know, kind of how it went, why you
were there. I didn't have any Greg is what I'm
gonna say next. Yeah, I mean, you know, I always
say I didn't hear or see anything, but uh, and
I like to sit around the fire at night and
just kind of listen to the night stuff. I mean,
I'm kind of a looner, you know. And uh, I
wouldn't sit out on that back porch by myself. I
mean Roger always laughs, but no, no, Roger laughs because he's
been there to the place. And uh And I told Greg,
I said, uh, man, I wouldn't sit at that corner
of that porch for nothing. And I go and I
don't know why. I haven't heard or seen anything, you know,
And I'm and we're pretty you know, well armed. But anyway,
what did you what'd you think when you got up there?
Speaker 4: Well, it was hilarious because I didn't know Roger, I
didn't know Greg, I didn't know Koombo, I didn't know anybody.
Speaker 2: Never even heard.
Speaker 4: Of any of these people, and all of them, never
watched them on YouTube. And the first thing I do
is I'm driving down to you know, Alabama from Minnesota.
So I got the longest drive of the three of us,
and those two yahoos, you know, Chris and Bud are
basically saying, let's just drive straight through. And I'm like, dude,
you guys, I've been driving twenty hours already, and you're
gonna make me drive more like you told us we
were going to stop, and they're like, so we ended
up stopping at a BUCkies, which was really fun. And
I ended up drinking a coffee and I had a
five hour energy shot and it was just I don't
normally drink coffee or five hour energy. So by the
time I got to Greg's place, I was buzzing' I
was just like w and I walked into Greg's man
cave and you've been there, It's amazing.
Speaker 2: And I just walked in.
Speaker 4: I was like a kid in the candy shop. I'm like, what,
who is this guy? Why is it got all this
cool stuff? It's like, what's going on here? And the
funny part is I was looking around to see if
there was any signs of female habitation, right, And I'm like, Okay.
Speaker 2: This is a bachelor pad. This is one.
Speaker 4: Hundred percent of bachelor pat Yeah. And then I just
got into my mind that Greg wasn't married, and I
basically and so later on it's like you have a wife,
what And they're like, where does she live?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: And then he goes, oh, I have a house on
the other side. I didn't realize that was his play
his man cave playroom. I thought he lived there. I
thought he was the wild man that was that like
inhabitated that space, you know, And that's.
Speaker 6: Not that's not far from the truth.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not when you need him, He's just like, yeah,
I got guns, and I'm like hunt and I I'm like,
I've never hunted. Yeah, I got a couple of guns,
but you know, I I barely know how to clean him,
you know. So anyways, Greg tells these stories about that,
the most amazing stories I've ever heard, you know, And
I'm just like, wow, you've had all these experiences. He goes, yeah,
half of them are right off the back porch, and
I'm like what. So we all decided to go sit
out there and uh, just hang out and see what happens.
I think at that place we did actually see some
shadows moving around in the woods, but nothing, nothing growled, nothing,
you know.
Speaker 2: It was intimidating, and it wasn't that scary. Now.
Speaker 4: When I was at LBL, something growled at me from
the dark and I was alone, basically because I was
sleeping in the middle of the camp after everybody left,
and you would not see a fat person jump so
fast and so high. I jumped back into my car
so fast, slammed the door and I'm just like, okay,
please don't break in.
Speaker 6: Well, after everybody. After everybody left, I don't know who
all talked about it. Yeah, but there are a few
of you left, and uh, I think Pat and Joe somebody.
I think it's something stepped on his step and moved
the cooler, moved a chair off the cooler and pitched
it to the side and looked in the cooler.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 6: And so yeah, I don't know how many people that
were there know some stuff happened after we all left,
but he did.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the only reason that I don't get it
because I camp far away from everybody over in a
nook on it. Yeah, that's where I always camp at. Uh,
and I had a couple of people over there with me,
but this time, I uh, you know, I've had an
encounter with a big cat over there a couple of times,
you know, coming around the tenth. I think the reason
they leave me alone is because I have trail cams
and trip wires set up all the I did trip
wires that go to like twenty two round you know, blanks,
and but really the game cam, the videos and stuff,
you know, I think keeps them away from my camp.
Most people are like, oh, I would like to man,
I don't want them coming in my camp. These are
LBL buggers. They're just a whole different you know, Yeah,
a whole different thing.
Speaker 6: Well, and for clarity, the people that don't know, one
almost stepped on your head and your tent one night,
So that's a little too close, That's what I'm saying.
I was three foot away from whatever this was, and
it was big, and he didn't care that we knew
it was there. It wasn't trying to be quiet. So
after that happened, people make fun of me, like Roger
won't sleep in the tent. I'm like, I'll stay here
with you all week. It gets around midnight, I'm made
to a cabin somewhere, and I still aint comfortable.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: There was the one place we stayed. I had seen
the white wolf and whatever that black thing was on
the side of the road. It was massive. On the way,
I saw one right after another. And Heather we got
back to the cabin and she come out of the bathroom.
She said, why are the lights on outside? I said,
because I want them on. It's just it's not gonna
help anything. But it just made me feel a little better,
you know what you.
Speaker 2: Think about it, Like like just the I mean, look,
anybody that walks inside Greg's man cap, there's just so
much stuff and artifacts and stuff hanging on the loss,
like you've walked into like a men you know, museum.
But like what about like around it? I mean tell me,
you know, because once you get up that treacherous road
going up the hill, because this is inside the bank
a national forest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, being you know, being a jeeper in Colorado, I've
been up roads that are way worse than that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm sure you know.
Speaker 4: You're you're hanging off the edge of a cliff looking
down a thousand feet back.
Speaker 2: That sucks a lot.
Speaker 4: So that road didn't scare me at all. But you're right,
it's remote. He tucked himself back in the woods right there,
and it's really cool. Well, how a lot of these
sites and my wife gives me shit all the time.
She's like, you're gonna go camp in somebody's backyard. I'm like, yeah,
the buggers are there. That's all I have to do
is camp in the backyard, you know. But some of
these places are kind of just on the outside of
rural life.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: One of the sights in the New York that was blowing.
My mind was like twenty minutes from an Applebee's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, now we're going to talk about that New
York thing. I wanted to talk about that last because
I think that's your most recent thing. Yeah, I want
to do that one last. But I was wandering up
at Greggs. You know, because when you go out on
Gregg's back porch, you're basically looking down a sloping heel
and then it drops off into your typical Alabama holler
and it's lush and deep and it goes right off
into a creek that comes from inside the Sipsy River
basin and inside bankhead fors uh, you know, off the back.
So if you're standing off the back just looking out,
you're just looking into nothing for a lot a lot
of acres over there. Yes, I mean you see most
people think, oh man, I'm gonna go there and walk
around and I'm going to go explore and I'm going
to see stuff. And the thing is, there's really not
that much walkable area right around it. Because when you
walk off the back, if you say I'm going to
go down to the creek, uh, you don't just walk
straight down that holland down there I mean you can't.
It's too steep, you know down there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we uh, I don't know. My dad calls
it bushwagon. When you go off the trail, you're bushwagon.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: A lot of people think that the woods are just
filled with trails. Yeah, we got some game trails here
and there, but it's not like, you know, like you
can't even go walking around at Snell Drove because you
had to walk around it and the moss is like
eight inches deep. It's like walking on the on a
what are they bouncy house for with kids? And except
underneath all the moss there's sticks and dead trees and
you're tripping on everything. So it's like every step you
take is a planned step, you know, So you're not
you're not just walking through the woods. You're like, where
can I put my foot safely?
Speaker 6: Right? And I've had I've had a many times in
my fifty five years. I walk a lot more careful
now because with the ground clutter with leaves, you can
step on one stone and you're twenty foot down the hill,
you know, up against a tree. Yeah, and it can
happen quick. So you have to be and and I
didn't know this. I was moving some stuff around at
Greggs and he's like, hey, watch out, we have scorpions.
And he's naming off of this stuff and wait a minute,
I'm only like an hour and a half from you,
and y'all have scorpions and yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well that was one of the first times
when I was down in Alabama that you guys told
me to buy snake boots.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, snake boots? What are Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I come up to here.
Speaker 2: Like all right, I'll buy some snake boots.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and everyone's like, you know, even when we
were in LBL, you know, Koombo grabbed me and was
like watch it, you gotta be real careful stepping over
those logs.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, yeah, you know, so I was.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of a green horn still, you know, even
though I've been out to twenty five different places. You know,
it's I'm not always deep deep in the woods, and
I'm not always around snakes and scorpions and other venomous creatures.
So I'm still a little I'm a newbie, so I
got to learn my lesson.
Speaker 2: Well, you didn't know that you didn't know that you
were in the Amazon. You know what I mean of
the south. Alabama has more species of feasts, more species
of salamon. There's more species of than any other state
that in the United States. Uh so, yeah, man, we
got some things down here that many'll they'll pop you and.
Speaker 4: And yeah, so that is one of the things that
I'm not I'm I'm too naive right now. I need
to learn my lesson a little better because sometimes I'm
not afraid enough, you know, I need to learn to
be a little more cautious.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, it just comes with it comes with experience.
And uh that even now, I don't go to the
North End because it's so rocky and there's there's copper
heads and rattlesnakes everywhere, and I won't step over a log.
I carry one of Gary's spikes snake sticks is what
I call them. And I popped the ground as I'm
walking and then I'll scrape on the other side of
the log. And it's been, you know, really cautious. But
when you're like Adam were you know, at the l
b A or you're you're in these places, if you
get snake bit it's a long ways to the hospital.
Speaker 2: Yeah you're done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean, yeah, just just driving out of.
Speaker 2: L B L is what half an hour?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're you know, in the middle there, and I
don't know where the nearest hospital would be. I don't think. Uh,
I don't even know on the Tennessee side, I don't uh,
I don't think there's one that little town where you turn.
Speaker 4: Remember that military helicopter that buzzed us. Man there them
to lift us out to safety.
Speaker 6: If you Yeah, maybe maybe Budd or somebody has a
military radio we don't know about, we could call them in.
But yeah, so I would. Me and Greg were talking
after you left. You and Chris left and Budd and
uh y'all had told us where all you were going.
And I'm like, man, that's that's a dream trip for me,
you know, And I'm down here, so yeah, I'll go ahead.
Speaker 4: That it was so I didn't get a good night's
sleep because I was still caffeinated. And Greg comes in
and wakes me up, and you know, his man cave
is really cool, and I'm glad it has a shower,
but you know, he could but he could definitely use
a maid service. So like, we get up, we take
the shower, we get out of there, and then you know,
right away we're back on the road again. And I
think right after that, we didn't we go to to Green's,
the Green Farm, Well, we went to oh, we went
to Cumbo's right away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 6: And and then after y'all left there, we came on
back to Tennessee. So, OK, yeah, when when I when
I was talking to Adams, he was seeing sounds. He
was he's kind of wired.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was really wired. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we went out to you know, and just
you know, here I am meeting these legendary people. All
of you guys are just you know, everyone's talking. I
get down to LBL.
Speaker 2: And like you got to meet Bama. You gotta meet Bama. Yeah, really,
I'm serious.
Speaker 4: You know, I had already met Roger and stuff, and
I'm like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and I'm hanging out with Cumbo. I'm like, how
does this happen?
Speaker 4: Like this is like, you know, I get invited to
the VIP table right away.
Speaker 2: This is great. So yeah, so we're over a.
Speaker 4: Kumbo's place and he had a lot of audio that
he just wanted to show a lot of things. And
his wife, Rebecca, what's his n Sandy Sandy Sandy that's right. Yes,
she was amazing. And she was telling us about the
photos that she took and the crazy glowing stuff in
the trees and you know, and all of these things
that like just like, oh, I want to see these things.
I want to stick around for two weeks to hang
out to see this stuff. But we only had a day,
you know, so it's like we just we're there for
a day and then we're off again. So but we
did get to go into the woods. Cuombo took us
up to the point. Why we were up there, We're
doing some calls and whatnot. And that was the first
time I'd ever seen red eye glow. So that was
the first for me too. So I've had a lot
of little firsts on every trip. I'd like, oh, that's
the first time I've heard a whoop, or first time
I've seen a print, or first time you know, seeing
the structure those kind of things.
Speaker 2: So that was the first time I got yeah, I said,
what about the eye glow?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, just Cumbo. Cumbo's very very attentive and
very observant. So she said, look over there, and I'm like,
I turned around, got a glance. He's like, and I'm
like right down at the end of the bush. He goes, yep,
and I'm like, I see it, and it was red
Eye Glow hanging out down there. And we got the
thermal out and I think we got a thermal hit
on it as well. I didn't know what it was.
But you know, we didn't get any callbacks or any
wood knocks that night. We were a little bummed about that.
But you know, that was the first night I got
to see some eyes.
Speaker 6: And and when you're hanging out with all of us
or these people he's talking to, Yeah, you do talk
about Bigfoot and boogers and stuff like that. But some
of the life stories were freaking amazing that we heard
that night. Yeah, at Koombo's. You know, some of that
we can't tell.
Speaker 4: All the musicians, you know, all the things he's done
in his life. Yeah, it's it is amazing.
Speaker 6: So oh, there's some amazing stories. Maybe we can get
him on one night, uh, on my other little channel,
just to tell some of the things he can tell,
you know, uh uh. Anyway, we won't get into that.
I'll quit interrupted.
Speaker 2: No, no, but.
Speaker 6: But that's what I love about this. It's yes, we
are doing you know, going out in the woods and
we're looking for things. But ninety five percent of the
conversations are not about the subject. It's just getting to
know each other and you know, spending time. Greg shut up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I always tell people bigfooting is just like camping, but
you just have equipment and you're looking and you're keeping
your eyes open.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, so this whole time, I'm texting with Chris,
you know, because one of y'all was posting something on Facebook.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: The first thing was my first dame. I said, dude,
you can't come to Bankhead without going hiking, you know,
I go otherwise you're just driving through you know, pine trees,
through the you know, the forest or something like that.
But but I was calling it like the Alabama Booger
Tour or something like that. But I wanted to know
what you thought about, like Flat Rocks Place.
Speaker 4: Or oh yeah, well the next place we got to
go to was Creepy Mountain and Mark Green's farm.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 2: I didn't know if y'all actually got to go to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So I mean I you know, I set
up a bed in my jeep so I could easily
just park and sleep, and it makes it really convenient.
Speaker 2: At the wayside dress as well.
Speaker 4: That's how I can drive so long and just like
just park whenever I'm tired. But anyways, so I'm sleeping
out in my car and the next morning we wake
up and there's these handprints and stuff on my car
at the farm and I'm like, whoa, that's a new thing.
And then we end up going up to creepy mountain,
all of us. And the first thing we do is
once we get past the gate up there, we hear
some sentinels wood knocking, you know, letting everybody know that
we're there. I know, we got up there and I
think Patrick had some sticks thrown at him or something
like that, and Chris was getting some thermal hits, and
we definitely got a couple of wood knocks, and you know, but.
Speaker 2: Like you said, we get up to the lake and it's.
Speaker 4: All just hanging out talking and having a good time
and getting to know each other and just listening for
something to happen. And we were all doing that and
fifteen feet away, you know, something was drawn on my car.
Speaker 2: I might have a picture of it. We bring this up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so, and just a side note for the
people that will be listening to this later. Most people
in chat know this. But if you think you've heard
Creepy Mountain before, it was in an episode of Finding
Bigfoot where they had gone up there.
Speaker 2: All right, So there that's a place for high strangeness,
not just not just Bigfoot things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, so come to if you just pop
up that other screen now.
Speaker 2: You can look at this.
Speaker 6: It's gone.
Speaker 2: It's gone. I can log it in again.
Speaker 4: Hang all right, we'll make the technical stuff happen, don't.
Speaker 6: I don't know if it timed out or not.
Speaker 2: Here we go, see Adam, he's gonna know how to
make it fill up the whole screen everything, all right. Here,
I got two computers. I'm trying to run here.
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna share my screen share a screen,
whole screen, nothing but the screen share.
Speaker 2: All right, you should be able to have I should
be back in again.
Speaker 6: There you go.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: So this this this image right here, I'm gonna hide
this one right now for now. This one here was
just like I walk back to the car after we're
all sitting around Creepy Mountain and this is on my window.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is, like, you know, like
none of us did it.
Speaker 4: You can see how dirty the cars get just driving
up the mountain. And then they did this, or I
won't say they. I don't know who did it, but
it's like three birds. I've never seen that before, and
I've told people about it and they're like, oh, yeah,
I've seen that exact same thing, and I'm like, wow,
that's kind of cool.
Speaker 6: Wow, it looks like it looks like a thumb print.
I mean, even on the other one, it looks like
a partial thumb print.
Speaker 4: Also, yeah, it does look like there's a little something
some here, but I see one, two, three, four streaks
and maybe a thumb over here. Maybe that's a hand
and there's a palm something. I don't know, but you
can see my dirty, my dirty fingerprints left over here.
Speaker 2: But they that was fresh. I mean I just walked
over to my car and that had happened. Which one
was square on the coat? Which one was square? No?
Speaker 6: Where was that? Was that? Like a side window? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Side window?
Speaker 6: And what about the second one?
Speaker 2: Let me take a look.
Speaker 4: The streaks were the side window and this I believe
was the side window as well. The so maybe on
the other side.
Speaker 2: So still both sides of the vehicle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh okay, yeah, and the vehicle was parked, you know,
ten fifteen feet away from us while we're hanging out
of the lake.
Speaker 6: I don't know, So would it be on the opposite
side of you guys where this was?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 4: So well, I won't say opposite. It was like off
to our right as we were looking at the lake.
Speaker 2: So we're all.
Speaker 4: Facing the lake, you know, hanging out by the water,
and the cars were kind of parked behind us and.
Speaker 2: Off to the side because we had three or four
vehicles up there.
Speaker 6: So what is that smudge up above that?
Speaker 2: Oh dude, I had.
Speaker 4: What I've learned is I take a bottle of Windex
with me now, and before I go to sleep, I
windox my windows.
Speaker 2: We told people that I've told people to do that, Yeah,
because I've told them. I've said, it is so easy
to fingerprint something. I've taken tens of thousands of prints,
and man, I could I could almost print something with
some charcoal, you know, if I was camping or something,
at least get a good enough print. Yep. But yeah,
I told people thought I was weird one time because
I go, oh, I've done door in my door handles
and the wind those and everything, so you know, just yeah,
that's that's interesting.
Speaker 4: This is this is I popped a drone up the
Flat Rocks place. This is what it looks like. I mean,
Alabama is a beautiful place. I mean, this is amazing.
And you know there's just so much woods, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and something that that's a great shot if you
if you see those big open areas, especially that when
when it first started over to the right, people will
understand that you have all these hard woods. But the
timber industry is big, huge, is huge down here, so
a lot of those will be cut over. They cut
all that like that over there has been cut over
and it's growing back in small pine saplings now. So
for wildlife purposes, that's like a desert. No birds lives
in there, no wildlife, no squirrels, nothing like that. It
makes a good wind break though, and a place for
things to have, like be your boogers or whatever.
Speaker 6: Is this directly behind flat Rocks House.
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically yeah, that's really really wooded.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so when people think, you know, yeah, i mean
flat Rock is probably what fifteen minutes away from a
grocery store, you know, something like that. But he lives
out in the middle of nowhere too, you know, you know,
we all so we A lot of these places are
not hard to get to, but they back up to
these huge vast areas of woods and there's stuff living
out there, you know.
Speaker 6: And that's that's a good point because a lot of
people they'll look on a map and it's hard. It's
hard to look at Google Earth. You can see it
and you're like, well, there's woods here, but that a
shot like that shows how much how far it goes,
and on creepy mountain, I think I looked it up.
I saw a video that Mark had done, Mark Green
had done and they had drove up and did a
little bit of you know, filming, and they were overlooking.
He did just kind of a pan overlooking the forest.
And I got on there and it's it's amazing how
big it is. And people I laugh at this, And look,
I don't laugh at many people, because we have people
that's been curious for three days and they ask all
the same questions and they're like, where do they hide? Man,
they've got oh man, it's just it's a it's hilarious,
and I don't, you know, I don't laugh at them.
I'm like, look you until you get out there like
Adam's doing and see this, see these places, and then
then look at the map and think, oh my god,
it's it's they're miles. It's miles to the next house
or the next town. And you have the water and
the rivers and the bridges, and you know, and maybe
caves in certain areas like our area.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 6: And I myself, turkey hunting years ago, would set steel
because you're full camo. And I had a guy that
hunted the other property and I would sit still and
he would come by me on a four wheeler and
he never all the times he came up there, he
never knew I was there. So something that's great at
this and you're in their living room. They're good, they
know they they I mean, I'll get off on that.
You walk right, pat, they'll let you.
Speaker 4: Speaking of that, So this this is the house in
Georgetown where you know I was out in Colorado.
Speaker 2: You probably sell the Facebook posts.
Speaker 4: This is my dad's second house in Colorado and we
we use it as a family guesthouse. And this is
the porch. This is our porch. Look at that big boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: And then the next day. Right the next day, my
dad sends me this picture. He's like, oh, yeah, well
I don't have a bear on my porch, but I
have a moose on my porch, right. And then another
guy in town posts this on the Facebook group.
Speaker 2: He's like, oh yeah, I got you both beat here.
Let's see, I got a big.
Speaker 4: Mountain lion on my own. So you're hanging out into town,
you're in town, and all of this wildlife is literally
just popping in at night and you don't even know it.
If you're right on the edge of the woods, you
don't even know what's going on. And you know the
security cams are catching all this stuff now.
Speaker 6: And that's that's a good point, Adam. Just because you
don't see it doesn't mean it's not there, because we
we all. I mean, I'm sure when we were kids,
our ages we were we were out in the woods
at night, we were doing things and rambling all the time.
But now I'm guilty of it. I'll just be at
home at eight o'clock than not. And but there's something.
I've lived in this neighborhood for twenty years, and everybody
on this street or house dwellers, I barely see my
neighbors out and then they'll be the first ones. Well,
I've never seen nothing. Will you never go outside? You
know exactly?
Speaker 4: You know, Chris said it. Chris says it's the best.
Speaker 2: He's like, get out the woods.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, that's that's what you gotta do.
Get out in the woods. Speaking of getting out of
the woods, Okay, before I got my first tepee expedition,
I was testing some cameras up in a site in
northern Minnesota, right and we put these cameras up. The
landowner let us have them up there for eight months.
And these things were on twenty four to seven for
eight months. And the very first night I was out
there putting the cameras up, Doug Hichek was monitoring them,
and I was exhausted. So I climbed to my tent
and went to sleep because I knew I had to
get up the next morning and keep working on the cameras.
Doug calls me and my phone is my bringers off.
He calls me the next morning he's like, don't erase
the cards, don't erase the cameras. I'm like, what, he goes,
I'll tell you later. So finally I get a hold
of him. He's like, I saw three bigfoot walk past
the camera last night. You got him the first night,
and I'm like, whooo, we went back. That's the one
camera that malfunctioned. That's the one camera that didn't record
that night.
Speaker 6: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm just like whatever, But we did have
a weird anomaly that was caught on the on this
exact camera that you're looking at right, and the landowner
posted it on Facebook.
Speaker 2: And what's really.
Speaker 4: Interesting is the next night and other people have heard
this story, but no one's seen the video yet because
I just found it today.
Speaker 2: But I've talked about.
Speaker 4: Somebody sending in drones, right, So check this out.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play this. Did you see that?
Speaker 6: I saw the movement on the leaves.
Speaker 4: Exactly, and that's what triggered my eyes too.
Speaker 2: So I'm just going.
Speaker 6: There coming down yep.
Speaker 4: So at one thirty at night, I have to figure
out there we go. So one thirty at night, I
saw this and you can see the down draft right right,
and you can see something fly through the screen right there.
Speaker 2: Do you see that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's it's hard to see, but you can
see the downdraft happen. And I'm like, the only thing
that I know that creates a down draft is a
drone because birds don't create downdraft. Bugs are you know?
Bats don't create downdraft. That's a down draft. You see
the whole leaf shake. Well, the next night, same thing
happens two thirty am.
Speaker 2: This one's a little.
Speaker 4: Bit easier to see though, too, because it really the
downdraft really took over. I gotta reach around here, okay,
so you can see that. Here's the downdraft again, and
it's the same path. It's a little higher. Let me
see if I can do it back and forth. But
you can see the downdraft happen and the leaves behind
there too.
Speaker 2: See how the whole path shakes.
Speaker 6: It's actually moving the limbs, and I know, the small lambs.
But that's yeah.
Speaker 4: And I was able to freeze frame it on one
of these frames.
Speaker 2: Right there.
Speaker 4: You can see the kind of the shape of the
drone and the four the four propellers there right there.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: See that Who the hell is flying a drone through
a heavily wooded space in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2: If you notice when it passes and does the obvious
movement on those leaves. It actually dips down in a
low arc and actually causes movement on the other leaves
back behind it, you know, along the ground. So you
know it's an even fly, a drone like that. I had.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, and and all right, let's let's let's walk
through this.
Speaker 2: I got to watch it again.
Speaker 6: Is there anything natural big enough with down forest that
could possibly do that?
Speaker 2: Well, there's a backstory here that I'll tell you too.
Speaker 4: Okay, two weeks before this event took place, I got
a call from the landowner and his neighbor asked him
to go canoeing with him because he canoes up the.
Speaker 2: River right there.
Speaker 4: Like, there's a river right across the street from this land.
Everybody has forty acres, so when I say right across
the street, it's several acres away. But basically, he said
he was too busy, so he got another friend. His
friend gets in the back of the canoe, they go up,
They paddle upstream a little bit. He's on his way
to a secret bigfoot spot, right he is. He's also
a big foot. Of the neighbor is too, and he
tells the guy jump out of the canoe, sit on
the bank, watch with the thermal. I think I'm being
followed up the river, right, Yeah, very interesting. But the
interesting part is the guy actually has the thermal out
and he sees a drone following the canoe up the river,
and then all of a sudden, we get this drone
footage on our security camera. Now you're ready for the
craziest part. I went, I went out. I buy all
my cards at the same computer shop and they're all labeled.
They're all store brand, right, So I have all of
my cards that are the same brand, and I go
up to this place and I retrieve the camera and
the card is empty. But it's not my brand of card.
Somebody went on private property, went to this camera, retrieved
this drone footage. Now I got this out of the cloud.
I was going to try to get it right off
the camera, but this came.
Speaker 2: From the cloud.
Speaker 4: Which is why these cameras, the security cameras are great
because you get cloud footage and local SD footag. So
the point is, somebody went and stole my ST card
and put a fake another ST card inside this camera, Like,
what's up with that?
Speaker 6: So, so are we thinking that somebody knows these things
are there and keeping an eye on them, or they
keep an eye on you.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: Oh so the other weird thing that happened was previous
a little earlier in the season, right, The landowner had
another bigfoot research team up there, and they actually saw
one cross the field and jump a fence on his property, right,
So they circled it on Google Earth where it happened.
They emailed it to Doug Hicheck, and twenty minutes later,
a plane was left from the local airport flew directly
around their property, did low altitude loops. The owner was
able to get the tail numbers, and I actually looked
it up myself and I saw the flight path.
Speaker 2: The plane went.
Speaker 4: Directly over his property, did a couple of loops, and
went right back to the airport.
Speaker 2: So, I don't know, you tell me.
Speaker 4: I think there's somebody watching this property pretty heavily.
Speaker 6: So, and I'm assuming that the landowner and the neighbor
got into bigfooting because they're dealing with the bigfoot right.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, wow, several of them. I mean I think they've
he's seen I want to say he's seen bigfoot fifteen
to twenty times on his property and his his you know,
his kids, his grandkids have, his kids have is you know,
it's like and a lot of the researchers that go
up there see it too, and I'm like, dude, invite
me up more often.
Speaker 6: And that just you know, that just blows your mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: That, and we we know there's a military base across
the water from LBL or whatever, and they definitely keep
an eye on us. I don't know if it's for
our safety or or whatever, but you know, Adam mentioned
the one flower every time we go. I mean we
this last time I was there, you know, five days maybe,
and the helicopters and there they were having controled birds,
but they weren't going over there. They were circling over
top of us. Okay, why is that?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna that this place where you know you were
you called the drone video and stuff like that. Uh
did you say what state.
Speaker 4: That was in Minnesota?
Speaker 2: Is this the same place where you lived in a
cheap for a month. No.
Speaker 4: I asked the landowner if I could live in my
TV at his property for a month and he's like, Nope,
not gonna happen. Yeah, He'll let me bring a tent
up and stay a couple of nights, but and hopefully
I'll do that next summer. This summer, I was just
too busy, So super nice guy. You know, really fun property.
A lot of people have been up there seeing Bigfoot,
and I'm just like, all right, I gotta make it happen.
Speaker 2: What's your man, what's your what's your goal? I mean,
what's good? I mean that that place sounds like it's
almost as hot as it gets. But it's like if
you go there and say, what's the what's the whole goal.
Speaker 4: That particular property, the landowner has has gone deep into
the high strangeness and he's they've told him with mind
speak that they don't want to be filmed. So he
told them that he wouldn't put cameras up and he
wouldn't allow people to record.
Speaker 2: So he has a strict no technology policy.
Speaker 4: So if I go up to that land with a tent,
that's all I can bring is a tent, And my
whole thing would just to be experienced, to see them
and possibly have mine speak with them. So that's that's
the goal for that property. That would just be a
personal experien and so I wouldn't be able to share
any data.
Speaker 6: So that that's and you kind of understand. I mean
like I can understand his point of point of view,
and because like I said, he he has to live
with him. What are we looking at here?
Speaker 4: This is my third expedition in a mining camp in Colorado,
and it was my first time goofing around with my
cheap thermal. But do you see something in the images here?
Speaker 6: It looks like it's peeking out behind a tree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a humanoid. Looks humanoid. It looks like
it's kind of moving, doesn't it. Black Greg House says,
I'm going to go get rid of this stuff. I've
been drinking. I'll be back all right.
Speaker 4: So the crazy thing is, even though I get evidence,
I don't like to share it very much because I
don't consider it good evidence. I'm like, I don't know
what that is. I can't prove anything, right, you know,
I can't prove that those are drones in there.
Speaker 2: That image is too blurry.
Speaker 4: But I can say, yeah, there's a down draft, and
nothing else I know causes a down draft. Here's the
here's the teepee one. So when I was up doing
the teepee thing, right, I got something that I well,
I think that I.
Speaker 2: Just call eye shine.
Speaker 4: So watch the left of the screen. You'll see a
very bright light come.
Speaker 2: On right there. See it.
Speaker 4: See that light come on right there? Okay, that is
and that's an that's what I think was an eye
because we went out there the next day and found
footprints next to the tree. So i'll play this in
real time here, but you'll see it kind of open
and you'll see eye shine, and it's just standing there.
It gets brighter and dimmer, and then it moves away.
Speaker 2: See that.
Speaker 6: Yes, And there's no there's no, I mean, there's nothing.
Was it a full moon or a good a good
bright moon out.
Speaker 2: But not this night. No, there was other nights it
was really bright. So you can see that.
Speaker 4: It's just it opens slowly and it closes slowly, you know,
And it's just it's peeking out from behind a tree.
Is this good evidence? No, it's horrible. Evidence doesn't prove anything.
Speaker 2: You know. Some dude with a flashlight could be back there,
you know.
Speaker 4: But I mean, I'm twelve, I'm twelve to fifteen miles
away from the nearest human. I'm like, why is somebody
goofing around like that?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 6: Right, So is that on another ridge that looks like
it's on the side of another heel. If it's that
real close to.
Speaker 4: You, that's a time shot of the same area. So
that's that happened right in these trees right here where.
Speaker 2: Next to my tepee.
Speaker 6: Okay, that makes that so go back to it, please, Okay,
I want to check something.
Speaker 2: Ye see the tepee there? Okay, you can see a
white thing right here.
Speaker 4: That is a garbage bag that I tied to a tree,
and that is almost five feet off the ground.
Speaker 2: Okay, So that gives.
Speaker 4: You a little bit of reference. So if you look
at where the eye shine is right there, that's at
least double that. It's like nine ten foot eye shine
right there.
Speaker 2: See that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's not really moving like an.
Speaker 4: Orb so nope, nope, it was stationary. And then I
got I got another shot, you know, and I just
kind of snuck through all my footage and found all
these little shots.
Speaker 2: I still have to go through a bunch of these.
Speaker 6: And from that angle you can roll out a star
or planet immediately. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you found way too.
Speaker 4: Low is only nine feet off the ground. This is
the track that we found in the marsh. Which was
really cool. You can see it right there. It's hard
to see on camera, but once I start pouring the mold,
you can see it take shape.
Speaker 2: Here. So that's me casting my first cast ever.
Speaker 4: And you can see that looks like a foot and
there's some there's some toes right up there. And the
one mistake I made that I'm going to tell everybody
else bring multiple bags of casting material because this was
three or four inches deep. So when I poured all
the casting material in there, I still didn't get the
toes because they were a couple of inches higher. So
all of these little toes that I did capture broke off.
So bring lots of casting material.
Speaker 6: And that was real close to where the light was seen, right.
Speaker 4: This is about okay, So the light was fifteen feet
behind the tepee and this is twenty feet on.
Speaker 2: The other side of the tpe in the mark.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so and that's the cast I got out.
Speaker 2: You know, it looks kind of.
Speaker 4: Like a foot, you know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a good evidence that is what most
cast that people make look like. I mean, you know,
I got lucky to you know, my first real track
where you don't have toes and just you know, toes
playing and everything. But that's really what most casts end
up looking like when you cast. And that's the thing
is like the video and the cast that you took.
You know, those may not be quote quote proof to anybody,
but to you, corroborating everything together, you know, that solidifies
things for you. You know, yeah, at then you're not
going to be able to prove anything to anybody. I'm
sorry to tell you that exactly.
Speaker 6: That, but that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 6: You know, we talked about tracks being so rare, and
that's the way. Every now and then you get some
really great ones in the right material, but most of
them are like that right there, and so you go,
what could have made that track? And you roll out
a ton of things. So it's actually good Window said,
that's actually good evidence. I think so too. Uh good
job of video and pouring the you know whatever that is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, centric centrical.
Speaker 4: I think that's the name of that stuff that you
want to buy, the fast, the fast trying stuff. So
this picture is a Snell grove in the morning, So
for those of you who want to go up there,
it is gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And then uh so how does it how does it feel?
I want to know the feeling because I think Bama,
he dicted. He gets into this stuff too. You're up
there with no escape route. You know, you got electricity
with the generator, and how scary is it being in
that situation.
Speaker 4: There's two ways I feel about it, right, because like,
let's see if I got the So here's here's Snell
Grove on the second trip, right.
Speaker 2: You got wildlife literally walking on your porch right. This
is the Snell Grove cabin right here. So it's it's fun.
You were really close to nature.
Speaker 4: We had otters, we had seagulls, we had bears, we
had all sorts of stuff going on.
Speaker 2: So it's fun.
Speaker 4: So that stuff doesn't really freak me out, but you
know what, it could be dangerous.
Speaker 2: I don't know. This Snail Grove is this natural park
at this private property? Like that cabin there is it?
You know? Is it somebody's cabin? Do you go there
because it's a bigfoot hot spot or yeah, Doug discovered it.
Speaker 4: He'd been going there for years and then he's done
a couple of Monster Quest episodes up there as well,
and so that's kind of one of the legendary bigfoot
spots that a lot of people want to go to.
It is a cabin that you can rent from an
outfitter in Canada.
Speaker 2: It is extremely remote.
Speaker 6: Matter of fact, you have to get the fly in,
don't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so fly and people would go there to hunt
and fish. Really it would be.
Speaker 4: Not even hunt because you can't even walk around. And
I don't think they want you shooting the moose and
the other stuff up there. So you got to get
your fishing license and it's just for fishing. But this
is where this is where you go. You start off
at the outfitters right there, and then you walk to
the end of the dock and you get.
Speaker 2: On one of their fifteen floatplanes and.
Speaker 4: They have cabins all over these lakes and the only
cabin on that entire Snow Grove Lake is that one cabin.
You are literally you fly forty five minutes over trees
and lakes and trees and lakes and trees and lakes,
and then you land in a lake and you get
out and you're miles and miles away from other humans.
Speaker 6: So Bama. You remember Monster Quest episode where Doctor Meldrim,
they they had the they had a wooden board with
screws in it and they found the blood. They had
it set sitting outside the door, and when they came back.
Speaker 2: They had they had the they had the screws up
to the board keeping bears and grizzlies and stuff from
coming coming up. Yeah, I think I remember that where
something had stepped onto one of the boards.
Speaker 6: And well when doctor Meldram took his sharpie and they
went around the ones that had meat and blood and
hair on them, and went around and when he got
finished drawing, it looked like that track Adam just cast.
It basically had the same shape to it.
Speaker 2: How did how did if Adam, if you know this,
how did somebody begin thinking or knowing that something was
going on at this at this cabin? I need to,
Like I'm gonn research in his cabin and watching some
videos about this cabin.
Speaker 4: Well, I think Doug Hichek is the one who found it.
He'd been going up there fishing for years and then
something happened and he just realized that it's got to
be bigfit activity up there, so he brought researchers up there.
And you know, I when we were there, we had
a whole bunch of stuff happen. We had acorns being
thrown over the.
Speaker 2: Outhouse at us.
Speaker 4: We had trees being shaken, we had house slaps, a
really big house slap that shook the cabin. We had
rocks being thrown at our cameras. And then this is
a panoramic of that same cabin at the lake there.
Speaker 2: So I'll get that into it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really beautiful. It's a great place to go. Oh,
I'm going to show.
Speaker 2: This for Bud. Bud was up there with us.
Speaker 4: Bud put his trail, came out and he caught bald eagles.
He put fish out for the for squatch, and he
ended up getting bears and bald eels eating his fighting
over his fish.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and.
Speaker 6: If if some of y'all want to watch about Snell Grove,
you can go to the Monster Quest episode. I don't
know which one it is, but I mean most of
most of us have seen that back in the day.
And then actually Bud and Angie Adventures with Budd and Angie.
Bud he filmed a little bit, went fishing out in
the boat and showed that rock where he put the
fish at. And it's really beautiful up there, but it's
just it's so remote, Doug. Doug asked me he said,
you want to go to Snail Grove. I said, nope.
It didn't take me but two seconds. Nope, I'm going, yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Need a small bank loan to get up there too.
So yeah, my wife was really nice saying I could
go once and then I'm like.
Speaker 2: Can I go again? And she's like, yeah, you can
do that all right, So I got.
Speaker 4: I got to hand it to the wife. She's a
great partner. So this is the fire pit at Snell Grove.
And this camera I had was automated, so it moved
around all night long, and it moved across the lake
right here, and you'll see something interesting.
Speaker 2: What do you see right there?
Speaker 6: There's a light on those banks.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: There's no other humans up there. And we got really
excited about this. There's a bright light over on that
other bank there.
Speaker 6: So it would have to be pretty big too, yep.
And I figured it out though, Uh oh, the moon reflected.
Speaker 2: What this was my ir camera trap.
Speaker 4: This is the light that I built and we put
it out in the woods. I totally forgot I put
it there, and we're like, oh yeah, so something triggered
my light and triggered my camera trap, and uh, I
have to really dig through the footage, but my quick
look I didn't find much. But just to the right
over here, right there is where I saw that portal open,
and I wish I had filmed it because it was
this giant, golden, you know, amber colored rectangular portal that
went from the top of the from the lake surface
of the lake up to the top of the trees.
Was open for five or six seconds and then closed,
And I'm just like, what the hell's that?
Speaker 6: Is that the first time you've experienced something like that?
I mean, that's yeah, that's how did you feel any
sensation when that was going on? Or or or was
your mind clear?
Speaker 2: My mind's really clear.
Speaker 4: I just I've seen so many weird things that I'm
just like, the first thing I think of is, damn,
I did you should have had a camera rolling and
that you know, I don't feel I don't feel like
like like it's scary or anything. I don't feel like
something's coming out of it at me. But at the
same time, I'm like, what the heck was that? Why
didn't I have a camera on? And the second trip
on Snellgrove, I wore a GoPro right on my forehead,
like seven or eight hours a day.
Speaker 2: I mean it hurt.
Speaker 4: I had an imprint in my forehead from the camera.
And people don't get it, like you can't do twenty
four to seven. The Gopro's burned through batteries like every
hour and a half, and they burned through cards every
three or four hours or whatever. And you're like you're
constantly switching things out and trying to keep that thing
going all day.
Speaker 6: And the thing with the GoPro, everybody says that, you
know you need a GoPro, Well they're not the best
cameras in the world. If something is eighty yards away
and you're moving, you know, you know, it's just it's
so tough to get a great video or picture. And yeah,
Andrew met you know the cabin. How many times the
cabin has been broken through several times.
Speaker 4: It was broken into just a month before we got there.
As a matter of fact, I think a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: They just fixed it up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they had to like remodel it was so bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they well they have to fix all the things.
They can't because remember they have to bring every piece
of material in on a floatplane, and they had to
build that cabin from materials on a floatplane.
Speaker 2: So they try to use whatever's there to fix it.
Speaker 4: So if like for us, the cabinet doors were all
ripped off, but they didn't put new cabinet doors on,
they put the old ones back on, you know, but
that was good for us because what we were able
to do is look at them with a scientific mind
and go, Okay, if this was a bear that ripped
this off the cabinet, there should be some scratches on it.
There should be some bite marks on it. There should
be because a bear has to grab it with his
teeth or its claws. There's only two things I can
think of to pull it off, the hinges. And we
didn't find any sort of scratches or biite marks on
it at all, So you know, we're thinking something with
fingers did it. And that's why they built that nailboard,
because something broke in there and trash the place the
first time. And what's really interesting, which they don't really
kind of talk about too much, is that everybody who
goes up there brings entertainment and what do you normally bring?
What's light, what's easy to carry a deck of cards? Right,
so every fisherman brings a deck of cards up there
and they just leave them there. So there's like a
hundred decks of cards up there, just sitting on your shelf. Right,
whatever broke into the cabin sat there on the couch
and ripped up playing cards, like decks and decks of
playing cards.
Speaker 2: What kind of bear would do that?
Speaker 6: So like in the pack.
Speaker 4: He took it out of the pack and just start
individually and just ripped up playing cards on the floor.
Speaker 2: And that gives me the creeps that creeps me out.
Speaker 4: That's oh, if you could hear this, this is what
creeped us out the second time.
Speaker 2: I think I froze up a little.
Speaker 6: Bit here well. And I do remember from at least
one of the Monster Quest episodes when the cabin got
broken into, nobody was there, yea, And they said a
bear would have went for the uh insulation inside the refrigerator,
because that's what they do because that formaldehyde I believe
it is, or something that's in that smells wheat to them.
And it whatever was in there didn't touch the refrigerator,
which is unlike a bear.
Speaker 4: Right, And so all the points, all the signs point
to something other than.
Speaker 2: A bear, right, All right. Wow, Okay, I think.
Speaker 6: Yeah I could. That must freaked out. I wouldn't. Like,
I'm just picturing, like why, like a regular animal might
knock a couple off and chew on a pat to
test it out and then figure out if nothing but
what would sell on the couch.
Speaker 2: Would sit on the couch and rip them all up. Exactly. Man.
That see, that's the thing y'all are picturing. It's it
or them or whatever sitting on the couch tearing the cars.
I picture it like crouching on the floor like a
crab or something, you know, you know, like you know,
like on Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh my god, yeah, and Flat Rockings Flat Flat
Rockland said it was tiny little pieces?
Speaker 2: Oh did he? Okay, I didn't know the whole story, but.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good LORI Barnes. Maybe y'all, maybe y'all
y'all need to leave something to trick it, make it
a look like a deck of cards. Yeah, I know
y'all's mind. Y'all probably have thought about this, you know before,
But I think I think there, you know, possibly they're
so intelligent they avoid cameras or they can mess them up,
who knows. I believe a lot of the sightings are accidental,
so it's gonna be something to really really trick them,
I think.
Speaker 4: So yeah, well there's two like, don't trick them because
they got telepathy, or try to trick them because they
because you can.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 4: Now I'm going to share that screen again with you
and hopefully we're back in. Can you can you play
listen to audio?
Speaker 2: This one's kind of a little creepy.
Speaker 6: I believe it'll play.
Speaker 2: Try it, Okay, I'll play it again.
Speaker 4: It's so I don't know if you've got the volume
on that screen or not. All right, I'll just tell you.
We had the cameras out and we literally all of
us were just kind of casually talking and we heard
a voice come across the cameras from in the woods,
miles and miles away from everybody else.
Speaker 2: So I call it.
Speaker 4: An EVP, but it was a voice and it sounds
kind of Native American, and that that was what really
creeped us out when we were there, because it's like, oh, that's.
Speaker 2: That's language, that's intelligent speech. This is all still at
the same place. That's Snellgrove.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there is a there is a little bit of
a paranormal thing going on up there. The first night
I was there, I climbed into bed and I felt
something sit on my legs. And I didn't want to
tell anybody about it because I'm just like, this is
really weird. I don't we're doing bigfoot. I'm not going
to talk about ghosts. But the next day Chris was saying, Hey,
I got to tell you guys, something was whispering in
my ear last night.
Speaker 2: Oh my, oh well, something.
Speaker 4: Sat on my legs. And then and then Doug goes
and tells us, oh, yeah, well people have died at
this cabin. And I'm like what, And it's you know,
it's it's really weird. You don't think about these things.
But I guess there was a father son who had
put their life jackets after fishing. They put them on
top of the propane refrigerator and blocked the vent and
basically died of carbon monoxide. Oh man, Yeah, that's horrible,
but I mean it happens. Accidents happen. I guess there
was another fisherman who had a heart attack up there.
And you know, like they you arrive on day one
and the plane picks you up on day seven and
you don't have a SAT phone.
Speaker 2: What do you do with a body for a week?
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I mean there's a lot of weird stuff
that you got to think about when you're that remote.
So Creepy Mountain we did that one already. Flat Rocks
Drone we did that. Oh the tree fall, Well you don't.
You don't have audio, so that's let me play this
if you can hear it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Rob, you need to get the audio work.
Speaker 6: And Roger, well, I thought if he shared it, it
might just play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought so you Spencer, Spencer Mystery would know
how to do this, would know how to do Yeah.
Speaker 4: Misty got me in trouble with Spencer at at at
elbl Yes, she decided I was making these songs for everybody,
and she's like, make one about Spencer. I'm like, I
don't know Spencer, Like I haven't met Spencer much yet.
So anyhow, she told me all these things about him.
So I made this really funny song and I played
it for him. He was not amused. So my first
impressions with him are like, Okay, sorry, Spencer, I didn't
mean to piss you off.
Speaker 6: It's easy to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say try that.
Speaker 4: I keep looking behind you as I got the screen here,
I got everything's behind my other screen. One second. I'll
try to share this one more time. Share share screen.
All right, go ahead and add that back in if
you can. Okay, I must have shut it down. Okay,
So right away in at the back of Flat Rocks
we had this. I put my camera up and literally
like fifteen seconds later, a giant tree came down ten
feet away from this.
Speaker 2: And the audio is so loud, I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not hearing Yeah, you're not hearing.
Speaker 4: It, all right, but you can see that there was
this weird flash of light right here.
Speaker 6: You see that I saw it. Not it not lightning.
Speaker 4: It could have been lightning, but it was just like
lightning flash. And then the tree came down and there
was no wind and there was no rain. Uh so
that was it was interesting.
Speaker 2: Is it good evidence? No? You know? Did we find
footprints next to the tree the next morning? Yes? Were
they castable?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 6: And there was if I'm not mistaken, there was at
least eight or ten of the guys there right it
was uh yeah, Budden Angie and flat rotten yep. And
then kas Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yep, and Joe and Pat and a couple other friends there. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So this is good, Adham. I'm glad you brought this
picture of He sent this to me, uh, right after
he took it. Bama, this is the LBO. Have you
ever seen anything like this?
Speaker 2: Hmmm, I'm just I was sitting looking at the whole
time y'all were talking. I don't know, man. So the
thing about LBL is, you know, like, what time of
year is this was this at Low Pool? This is
at Low Pool when they let the water way way down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is right after we did the whole, uh,
the the Alabama tour. So right after I was driving
back to Minnesota and LBL is literally on my way.
So I'm like, I've never been there. I want to
see what it's like. So I went to, you know,
the campsite everyone told me to go to, and the
first thing I see is this little these little ponds
there's one, two, three, you can see four or five,
there's like five of them. And right down at the
top at the top of the picture there I found
a bone yard where it had deer bones, fish bones,
and clambone or clamshells, and right across this area is
where the where you guys.
Speaker 2: Found the trackway. So this is the same area. Yeah,
I know exactly. I know in fact now and I
look it up, probably know exactly where that's at. This
is just to the left of that boat lone. Yeah,
I kind of agree with what people are saying in
the chat. Before I ever looked at chat. It looks
like somebody like constructed them two or three little minno traps,
you know, to where maybe the minnows could could get
into a crack and get trapped up in that little
pool there or something. But that's what I found in
every pool. What's that clams? Yeah, I'll be yeah.
Speaker 6: And the thing is, you know, if this was built,
let's say this was built two weeks prior and the
water level was up a little higher. Uh, that would
work at this point, but who knows, because y'all found
the shelves up in the woods, haven't you heard? Something
carried the shells up and.
Speaker 2: Like a like a like a pile of them. That's
the scene.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: We we had a couple of raccoons as kids, and uh,
a dang raccoon can get into a muscle shell a
lot faster and you can get into one with a knife.
So but the ones we found were all, you know,
like piled up in a pile together.
Speaker 6: So adam were they? Were they live or the had
they been.
Speaker 4: Eating the one there's the boneyard. Just like you said,
they were all piled up, but there was deer bones
and fishbones in there as well, so it was a
little it was like something sat in the woods and ate. Right.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. It's a good evidence, no,
you know so.
Speaker 6: But it's it's great to have somebody might see something
in three years.
Speaker 2: And are you going he always says, is a good evidence?
I don't know. Are you going to give us anything
that's good evidence? And that's just it.
Speaker 4: I don't have anything that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Expeditions.
Speaker 4: I've got wood knocks, I've got whoops, I've got tree falls,
I've got I got all this stuff, but I've never
seen one, and I don't have any good evidence.
Speaker 2: I've got eyes shine.
Speaker 6: You know, well, I think you're I think you're too
peaky because you're probably one or half a percent more
possible evidence than anybody else has. I mean, you're out
there doing this and that shows you guys and gals.
That shows you how hard it is to get something
on camera on audio.
Speaker 2: And am documenting it to That's the thing about me.
That's my one regret is I couldn't go back and
tell you the date and time that the first thing
happened to me or the second or third. I maybe
can there Now.
Speaker 4: That's I love the gamp right here that tells the
exactly what happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 4: So I guess when this happened four thirteen, twenty twenty six.
This was the night after everyone left.
Speaker 2: Lbl Okay, Oh really, where is the uh? Where's the
where do you have the camera at? Ah?
Speaker 4: So, because I've got starlink mounted on my jeep right
Roger used it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I put my jeep right in the center of the park,
right where we were all camping, and I put fifteen
cameras all in a giant circle all around, starting up
by the bathroom and then all up aside and then
past the graveyard road and down. And I didn't put
any cameras on Joe and Pat's camper because I didn't
want them to feel like I was, you know, pointing
it at them. And of course that night they have
a you know a visitor that messes with their cooler
and leaves a big footprint on their camper. The one
spot I didn't have cameras set up right.
Speaker 6: And and where they were at, something could have come from,
you know where we did the show and I was
looking out over the water to the left.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could anywhere down there.
Speaker 6: You didn't have that that area covered.
Speaker 4: I didn't have the I didn't have the lakeside covered.
I just had the the other side by the where
the big bonfire was.
Speaker 2: I had that whole area covered.
Speaker 6: I agree with that injury. What about you, Beema, It
is a pondrance.
Speaker 2: The second he said that, I'm like, I ain't hurt
anybody use that terminology in a while. Yeah, but no,
that's exactly right. It's like you can you can take
any of the little It just means you can take
any of the little individual things, and they don't mean
a whole lot. But it's like a crime scene where
you have shellecase and scattered for two hundred yards and
on a gun front. Uh. That all of it together
is what tells the story and gives its evidentiary value. Yep.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you need to keep doing what you doing.
Speaker 2: Adam, because you want me to keep going.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, I just need you to keep We
all need you to keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Just taking up our slack. We're tired. We didn't do this,
We've been doing this a while.
Speaker 4: I will take young guns. If there's any young guns
out there that want to tag along, please. We need
we need new blood in this thing. We need more
people hunting, you know, because we've got all the legends
are are are really old.
Speaker 2: Now, you know, and it's right, you know what is
this one? This is the LBL thing.
Speaker 4: Chris actually saw this on live on the camera and
told me, he goes, dude, you got a great orb
last night. I'm like, what, And so this is the
orb that passed my camera.
Speaker 6: What in the world?
Speaker 2: And you can see it goes.
Speaker 4: Behind the plant there, so it's not like a piece
of dust that's in close.
Speaker 6: Stop it in the center for me, please.
Speaker 4: And obviously the AI on the camera was tracking it,
so it's it's something that yeah, I saw.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to see if I don't see what I
saw like a clear membrane membrane, but the shape it
does have kind of a center though, like a like
the the very center is more see through than the edges.
Speaker 2: There's something around the edge there, like.
Speaker 6: A like almost like a smoke ring thicker, but it's
not that of course. And then I don't see like
a I saw a nucleus. But that's odd. It's like
it's like something's holding that together. Bama, do you have
any idea what that could be?
Speaker 2: No, I'd like to see like some more frames. Let
it come on through a little more.
Speaker 4: I'll play it in real time. Actually, here you go, ready, yeah, boom,
real time.
Speaker 6: What in the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can see it dips it like changes course
to it like dips down. So it comes down and
then it dips down and then it goes up and
it kind of dips down again, and right there it
dips down twice and then goes off.
Speaker 2: So this is it? This is just ind okay, Yeah,
it holds its shade. But then again, even though it's round,
it looks like it's flat.
Speaker 6: And you see when it leaves the bottom right side
kind of in in dent a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it like it's like maybe that's just just
turning at an angle. I don't know, man, it's not
hitting anything. Uh, I'm looking at at that that right
the movement down there of the uhlan of the grass
on the far right bottom where that uh that motion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't even notice that before because you know
what if that's if that's true, then the wind is
pushing this plant over this way right, so it's going
against the wind.
Speaker 2: It didn't realize.
Speaker 4: Look at that plant is being pushed down a different direction,
and that that thing.
Speaker 2: Is security cameras at the house. When it picks up motion,
it puts an event box around it. That's so right, Yeah, there,
that's the event box. Yep.
Speaker 6: So all right, now let's walk now. It does look
right there, right there, it looks hircle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, bottom as it goes on across, it's almost
as if it turns to its it it turns to
its right, and then it looks almost flat as it leaves.
What is it? I don't know? Is good evidence? No?
Speaker 4: Oh no, so you're gonna see, Adam. That's this is
why I don't talk. I get asked to be on podcasts,
but I don't. I don't ask people like can I
be on your podcast? Because I don't even want to
show this stuff because it's so weird. I can't explain it,
but it's it's doesn't say it doesn't prove anything.
Speaker 6: Well, there's another.
Speaker 2: This is the place for weird man.
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, you're in the right company. So here here's
another ruling out. Y'all see if y'all agree with this.
Let's forgiggles, Let's say somebody had a flashlight. It would
be it would be going across the leaves and creating
shadows over there, and it definitely wouldn't have changed shape, right, right,
so we can roll that out. Now, you're not far
from the cemetery.
Speaker 2: Right, No, not at all. We're right. The cemetery is
right up hill. Yeah, hey, let me ask this question.
Let me wait wit a second.
Speaker 4: Viewers, if you've never been to LBL, the thing that
shocked me as that you're driving in. There's so many
sem arry's there, and I'm like, why are there so
many cemeteries around here? And they told me people used
to live here, and I'm like what And they kicked
everybody out of LBL and took it back, and I'm like,
so they tore down all the buildings, but they left
the cemeteries and I'm like, wow, this place is creepy.
Speaker 2: That was a good point. It looks like a jellyfish
on the way out. It's flat on the bottom, like
I said, yeah.
Speaker 6: And see, and that's what that's what makes it unique
is that it might not be changing shape. It just
made me, like Bama said, turned in a different angle
and showing a difference. Who knows. It's hard to tell.
But I don't have an answer for this anything.
Speaker 2: I have a question, is this this is film because
motions set off the camera? Is that correct?
Speaker 4: This particular one I had set recording all night long,
so every minute, every every second of every minute it
recorded all night long, okay. And so Chris just happened
to spot this one and tell me like, hey, look
at one o'clock am, and you'll see an orb and
I'm like, okay, this is twelve fifty nine or sorry, yeah,
twelve fifty nine thirty eight is the timestamp on this one.
And one hour after this is when I got up
to pee and something yell growled at me, and it
was so close and so loud that I jumped back
in the car. And fifteen twenty minutes later, the camper,
you know, Pat and Joe's camper, got walked on and
their cooler got tipped over or whatever.
Speaker 6: So let's can we watch this one more time and see?
All right, let's let's here's what I want to see.
I want to see if it's in front of these
weeds or behind the weeds, or goes in between. I
want to kind of see if I can.
Speaker 4: Looks like it goes behind but it is translucent.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, my thing, what I was asking is like
I put my trail cam out a couple of weeks
ago and left it out for a week on a spring,
and I got a couple of raccoons and stuff. When
that thing, and it's got a black my camera has
black flash on it, so people can't see it or
anything like that. But when that thing is triggered by motion,
it lights up the foliage around it like it is
in this video here. And there was a tree close
in front too, so that tree would pick up a
lot of light. I figured out that's why I was
wondering if this was on all the time and illuminated
those plants all the time, or if it was simply
because of motion. Okay, all right, So.
Speaker 4: This I set all the cameras to be full illumination,
and I set them to stay on all night, so
they were they were all burning batteries all night long.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, and a most security camp. Most game cams.
Now you can have it where it'll just do all
those different programs stream by at once to know. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So the cool part about this is that it's all
tied into my starlink, so I can be sleepy laying
in my jeep watching all the cameras live, which is
really kind of fun, and it gives me a sense
of security knowing that I don't see anything moving out there. Right,
but when you step out of the car, you don't
have night vision goggles on, so it's pitch black. You
guys know it's pitch black. Oh yeah, yeah, so you
can't see anything. So I'm I'm taking a leak and
some of the grawls at me. I mean, it could
be three feet away, it could be ten feet away.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I couldn't see anything.
Speaker 6: So just guesstimating. I mean, you've heard you've been around
big animals. Did it sound like it was had good
size to it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know it now that you made me
think of it. It sounded like it was coming from
above me, So it sounded like it was taller than me.
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that fact until just now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so well that's what happens.
Speaker 6: That's when we discussed these things because that weird sound
I heard in the broad daylight. Later thinking about it,
I realized I was looking up about ten foot yep.
So yeah, that's one. It's great to talk about. And
and for y'all that never never have been there and
maybe hadn't heard us talk about this. I believe he's
looking that's that's the side of the hill that the
cemetery is at the top, right, Yes, yep, okay, just
and Gary and I. Gary got that picture and it's
it's not a great picture, but I saw him take it.
I was standing behind him and I saw something look
out twice and it had a shoulder and a head
and I heard it walking away and we found tracks.
So and that's really close to where Gary and LORI
And there's like seven or eight people saw or in
my tent with their eyes.
Speaker 4: That camera with the orb was basically where Patrick was camped.
Speaker 2: Okay, under the cedar tree. Under the cedar yeah, that's right.
If I yeah, if I camp with the crowd, that's
where I camp at is next to where Patrick is.
Speaker 4: All right, well this was my one of my last episode,
the last things, and I just haven't taken very many
pictures of stick structures.
Speaker 2: But tell me that doesn't look placed I wish.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I see it. Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 4: And then there's the y at the top that's leaned
up against the telephone pole. There's the sticks, and I
got some close ups.
Speaker 2: Of it, and it looks like the grounds really disturbed.
Right under it almost looks like where a buck has
uh you know, there.
Speaker 4: Are no branches or leaves anywhere to be seen. This
is a planted row of trees, and behind it there's
a planted row of pines, and behind that there's a
planted row of bushes. This is a weird property where
they've planted row upon row of windbreak.
Speaker 2: I don't know what they've done there. Maybe yeah, it
could be.
Speaker 4: But the point is something brought this branch out and
brought all these sticks out to this area.
Speaker 2: Because you can see.
Speaker 4: There's nothing on the ground and there's nothing that would
have fallen from these trees that far away. That's that's
a good ten to fifteen feet away from those trees.
Speaker 6: So the only thing you have here is is a
human was camping? Uh, what do you call it? What
do you call that kind of camping?
Speaker 2: Where the bush craft?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: Okay, this, no one's camping here. It's a horrible shelter.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4: No one's camping here because this is literally on the
side of the road, on the on the way to
the Vargas Trails.
Speaker 2: In minutes, it's been interesting. Is zoom in on the
top of that thing there? It looks fresh on.
Speaker 4: Top fresh and it looks twisted, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh, and that's that's what I was warning. Is
it twisted? And is the other hand stuck in the ground.
Speaker 4: No, it was leaned up gently. All these things are
crossed and leaned up gently.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then a mot a mile down the road we
found this guy what I'm gonna call Look at this structure.
Look at how much stuff's going on here. It's like
you can walk into the there's like a doorway here.
You can go inside there and lay down in the leaves.
Right there, here's another angle of it. Oh, yeah, so
you can see it's like all these things are arched over.
I mean, yeah, is there snow bend? But you can
see how sheltered it is. And there's a great big
door right here. Basically we walked into it.
Speaker 2: I looked for fur and stuff, you know, or hair
and all that other stuff. So, but is this great evidence?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I mean, could this be snow? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I can't, like, I can't show a skeptic any of
these things and be like.
Speaker 2: Look at we're looking at a big foothouse, you know.
Speaker 6: And they'd be like, so Andrew, Andrew said, the drone
you showed earlier, as referred to as a Dragonfly drone,
it only has a ten minute flight time. The operator
must have been closed.
Speaker 4: Wow, that is crazy because it's not Yeah, wow, thank you, Andrew.
Yeah all right, Uh for those of you guys haven't
seen it yet, I built a Squatch mobile.
Speaker 2: I took it down to l that's right, I remember it.
Speaker 6: I was looking for a t Rex following him and
when I first saw it, that is cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I for the New York trip. I
actually put a bunch of ATVs behind it. So I
was pulling a big trailer with a bunch of ATVs.
Speaker 6: So and y'all actually got stopped, didn't Chris run into
a lady in Alabama? That has watched his show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we when you're advertising like this on
the jeep, people come out of the woodwork to tell
me stories. I had three people in Alabama stop me
and tell me right where they saw squatches crossing the bridges.
And I looked on a map and it was literally
less than a mile from from Flat Rocks House. Three
people told me about sasquatch crossings less than a mile
from Flat Rocks House.
Speaker 2: Strangers just out of the woodwork.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, when you go to these small communities, at them, yep,
it's like that we've we've overheard conversations at Greggs. Now
that I'm doing this, I have people that I never
would have dreamed that would talk about this or contacted
me and like, hey, do you remember where we lived
and you said you saw this there or somebody and there.
So it's mental pins on the map, but it and
what they have in common is the ridges right there.
The ridges run north and south. They can be over
the ridge and be away from everybody. Then you have
water close by. You know, just just just what we
come to find that most of these situations have in common.
And and when you get to a small community like
that and this one. It wouldn't happened thirty years ago, right,
But now people are coming to you and giving you
this information, and so that tells you they're not they're
not trying to get on a podcast, they're not trying
to sell the T shirt. They're just like, hey man,
you believe in bigfoot? I see we saw one cross
right down here. I mean that's that to me?
Speaker 2: What it's like, You're right.
Speaker 4: They just come up to me and be like, I
got a story for you.
Speaker 6: Yes to me. That's where we come from. And BAMA
started doing the podcast kind of that transition time. And
now we've we've moved forward enough where people feel comfortable
talking to people that they know. You know that that
artwork on your jeep, they knew you were somebody safe
to talk to you. Right. I wear a jacket that
might have a you know, a patch on it or
something I can take off and put back on. I've
had more conversations from wearing hats and stuff like that
because they figured you either believe in it or you
know something.
Speaker 4: So anyway, I got a great story. You just reminded
me on my back was screwed up. So I went
to a masseuse for a little while, and normally there
was female masseuses there, but one day there was a
male there and I happened to be wearing a Sasquatch
t shirt and the guys giving me a massage. He goes, so,
you you believe in bigfoot. I'm like, yeah, I haven't
seen one yet, but I believe they're out there. He goes, oh, yeah,
they're out there, and I'm like, okay, tell me your story.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It turns out he used to be an illegal pot
farmer from northern California. Wow, And he was the dude
who was tasked to stay in the tent with the
gun all night. Nobody brought broke in the property and
old to marijuana, right, so he said, yeah, He goes,
those things smell terrible. He goes, every time they were around,
they'd be smacking my tent and yelling at me. And
he goes there was three or four of them always,
and they were I could hear him talking back and forth.
Speaker 2: He goes, it was the freakiest thing.
Speaker 4: And like that guy, I gotta give him kudos because
he's he does have a gun, but he's out there
in a tent alone guarding a field right, and he
knows they're squatch around and they're they're literally having conversations
around his tent.
Speaker 6: And I was I was somewhere training. I didn't know
where everybody was from. There was there was a guy
from actually Minnesota, and there was a guy from California
and as northern California. And I'm sitting in front of him.
We're on the bus going somewhere to train, and I
hear them talking, Hey, I'm Bob, Hey, whatever, and they're
talking and Bob had uh bigfoot? Had I noticed it?
And I didn't say anything. I'm listening to him and
the same thing happened. Uh so you you into bigfoot
or whatever? And he's like, well, yeah, I saw one
in Minnesota. I was on a snowmobile and you know,
blah blah blah. Well this guy said I had one
walked through my camp one night in the mountains and
he wasn't happy. He said he didn't hurt us, but
he came. He was, you know, stomping around and moving
things around and whatever. Ran them out of there. And
I said, hey, y'all, Roger Willi's nice to meet you
guys exactly, you know, So, yeah, that was amazing, and
I wasn't going to interrupt him because I wanted to
see where this conversation was going. And both of those
guys said they saw saw Bigfoot. Yeah, one side of
the country and the other side of the country.
Speaker 4: So and here I am spending weeks and weeks out
in the woods and I haven't seen him yet.
Speaker 6: Well, look, you keep doing what you're doing. You're not
on the couch, so you're going to the right places.
But I would just suggest I pick up pick one
of those places and stay for a few days down here,
because you know, Hitt and miss I mean, I've I've
been to Gregs. We've all been to Gregs, and you'll
be there, nothing happens. Then then then something happens, or
you find footprints, or you you get hit with a
smell that about w over and some weird screaming. You
know it's and uh, I think that was the first
tracks I've ever found. Hmm. I've been doing I've been
doing so much, uh in the past six years. I
think it was. I think because I remember when I
pulled the leaves out of the the tracks, we it
looked the right shape or they looked the right shape.
And Peyton was filming, and I was gingerly moving leaves
out because this Bama can tell you how sandy and silty.
It's real fine, So I didn't want to mess it up.
And and when I pulled some out of the front
and I saw toes, I said some ugly words because
I was so excited. It's just no way. But anyway, yeah,
I mean that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Did you cast it?
Speaker 6: No, Bama, do you think you could cast it in
that type of settlement or whatever that's called.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you really had some And I want to see
what this video here is. But if you had something
like that, i'd probably maybe put drop some saran wrap
in it and see if you can just pour it
into it that way and work it out into all
the the the ridges and stuff. I've heard you're supposed
to spray it with hairspray and that stuff like that
works too, but a lot of times people get down
there too close and when they spread it just blows
stuff out of the the out of the footprint, you know. Yeah, yeah,
what is this? Okay? So this is like my first
foury A.
Speaker 4: So I didn't really start squatching until twenty twenty one,
and I put up all these cameras on that same
this is the same drone site property. This is a
different camera, but I wanted to show this because everyone
thinks that you know this right on the tree. Sorry,
I'm on the wrong screen. Let me get on the
right screen here. So right back here on the tree,
right here where my mouse is, there's a peanut butter
jar that I basically strapped to the tree.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: But I did an experiment and I said, you know what,
I'm not going to break the seal. The owner who
gives peanut butter on this property breaks the seal every time.
Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, this black.
Speaker 4: Line right here, this is another smart thing I'm doing.
So this is nine feet off the ground. I marked
a nine foot strap, so if I see something walk
past it, I know that that's nine feet.
Speaker 2: So yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: So I got this bear literally just right past this
peanut butter jar for like three four months and just
never smells it, you know, And I'm just like, oh,
he knows where the cameras are.
Speaker 6: You should have warned me. That's scared to crap out
of me.
Speaker 2: I'm leaning in. I'm looking holy micro yeah, holy. So
that camera is like six feet off the ground. So
that bear is is a big boy.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's so if you if you don't break
the seal, they I don't know, they don't smell it
very well.
Speaker 2: And then the last thing is.
Speaker 4: This was uh, this is one of the first fun
catches I caught on these cameras back in twenty one.
This is what I call the teleporting bear. And I
have no idea what's going on here because you'll see
there's a white streak of light that goes across the
screen like this, and the streak of light is perfectly timed.
It just keeps going. But the bear will jump behind
the white streak.
Speaker 2: So if the if.
Speaker 4: The film was broken or or the camera wasn't working,
that white streak would have been broken as well. But
the bear literally teleports. So here you go the teleporting bear.
So he walks into camera here and less than a
minute later he'll turn around to walk back and halfway
up the trail. Everything else in the frame is going
to be totally normal, except the bear teleports.
Speaker 2: Fifteen. I think there is white streak come in that nutty.
Speaker 6: And and the moft that's flying by stays the same.
Speaker 8: Yep, um, it's like a weird uh glitch yeah to
the matrix For people listening, it's almost like it's a
weird pixelation or.
Speaker 2: Something for just a second. But it's but it's only
in that one spot.
Speaker 6: Yep, and and and and like I said, you watch
that moth fly from left to right. Correct, it doesn't
it doesn't glitch. O.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's per and and it's close and you
can see fine detail in it as it flies back
and just go straight back. Yeah. And I don't know
what's going Is it good evidence?
Speaker 6: No, weird, it's weird.
Speaker 2: It's very weird. Man.
Speaker 6: What what did dog say about?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, yeah, it was just one of
the fun things I saw. But all right, I can quick.
That's all I got for the screen stuff.
Speaker 4: I have a bunch of audio, but since we don't
have any audio, I'm just gonna we can kill that.
Speaker 2: So all she did stand before we uh you know,
before I forgot about it. Uh, this New York experience
that you had, it's probably the most recent. I was
wanted if you could go over that with us.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a that's a real head scratcher, all right, So, uh,
A lady in New York has got a lot of
big foot activity on her property, and she wanted me
to help her out and put a bunch of cameras up.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: So I went out there with a bunch of gear,
installed the starlink system for he got all these cameras
mounted on the house.
Speaker 2: But basically on the.
Speaker 4: Way out there, I got. I arrived a day early,
so the landowner of the homeowner didn't know I was
going to be there. Luckily, she had a key hidden
and she told me where to find it. I got
the key, I got into the place, I was all alone.
I unloaded my car, and of course all of us know,
something always happens on day one, right, So I wasn't
really ready for any camera action. And I really didn't
want to change the environment too much on the day
one either, so I didn't really want to throw cameras up.
But I put an audio recorder out. Actually you know what, Yeah,
I can show you that one. Never mind, So anyways,
I put an audio recorder out on the stair the
ledge of the stair well, so it was like five
feet away from the door, maybe not even maybe three
or and a half four feet.
Speaker 2: But I went to.
Speaker 4: Bed and I timestamped the As I walked out and
placed the recorder, I said, it's ten fifty six. I
just got unloaded. I'm super tired from driving. I am
going to call it a night. And I basically just
put the camera, the recorder out, audio the Zoomer audio recorder,
and I just went to bed. And I was super chill.
I wasn't I wasn't anxious or I wasn't freaked out
that I was there alone. I didn't know what to expect,
you know. I really hadn't done any research on the
place at all. I didn't honestly think anything was gonna happen,
you know. And I was laying out, laying in bed
looking out the window was a full full moon, really bright,
and I was kind of going, that would be really
cool if I saw a bigfoot shadow across the window tonight,
Like that would that would make my day, right, And
that's how I went to bed with a big smile
on my face.
Speaker 2: Going like that would be really fun.
Speaker 4: One thirty in the morning, I got woke up to
something I can only explain as a brage of fists
smacking the side of the house. Because this house was
open architecture in the middle. It was like a big
bass drum. It just the whole house shook and it
was rock concert loud.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was really crazy loud.
Speaker 4: I literally like fell out of bed and hid between
the two beds, grabbed my phone and I was just like,
what's going on? And the thing lasted for like fifteen seconds,
and if you count to fifteen slowly, that's a long time.
Speaker 2: It's a long time. That's a really long time.
Speaker 4: And my brain was just going, like, Okay, I hope
they're not going to break in.
Speaker 2: I don't think they will.
Speaker 4: There's not very many, you know, very many times when
they enter the structures. You know, I'm like, I think,
I'm okay, when is this going to end?
Speaker 2: Is it ever gonna end? Why they say so mad
at me?
Speaker 4: I'm like all of these things were going through my head,
but you know the point is, and when I get done,
it was nutty. I mean, I was, where's my phone now?
I don't even know anyways, I'll pretend it's my phone.
My hand I was shaking like this. I could barely
unlock my phone. And I have never had that much
adrenaline and that much fear. It was weird because I
don't get that scared that often. And I was just
like insanely and I was my brain was calm, but
my body was.
Speaker 2: Just full of adrenaline.
Speaker 4: And I basically called Doug right away, and Doug's like,
you gotta go out and get the recorder.
Speaker 2: And I'm like no, no, no, not yet, not yet.
Speaker 9: Oh no, no'm I'm like no, no, no, not yet,
do not call me.
Speaker 2: I just don't.
Speaker 4: I don't want even I want them to think I'm
still asleep. I just I can't handle this. This is
just intense, and so being a real researcher, I should
have just jumped out of bed, ran out the door,
and like looked at what was going on.
Speaker 6: Anyways, that's I mean, don't beat yourself up over that
because fifteen seconds long. I don't if Doug told me
about it or you told me, but I think he
contacted me. Said I don't freaking out. I was beating
outside of the house. Yeah, no, that's Look, if they
want to come in, you've seen how you know, if
they're big, they can come in. Yeah. So do you
think maybe I heard you talk about this? Do you
think you were there? She wasn't there, and maybe they
were trying to run you off. Yeah, they didn't know
the situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the fact you saw the car and I
was pulling the ATVs right while I was there. Over
the next couple of days, I realized that there was
an ATV track nearby.
Speaker 2: And from what I learned from.
Speaker 4: From Greg Greg House, they hate motorcycles. They hate loud noises,
they hate those sounds. And I can imagine if you've
got a if you've got a bunch of humans, you know,
screaming their motorcycles around your home, you know you're not
gonna like them either. So maybe they knew what the
ATVs were, and maybe they knew that I had them,
and they didn't want me there. Maybe the homeowner said
they didn't like men, so maybe they just didn't like men.
I was there without the homeowner, so maybe they were
protecting the property and maybe they just saw me break in,
you know, kind of deal.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the reason, maybe all three of.
Speaker 4: Them, for all three three reasons possible, whatever was happening,
they I could tell they were angry, you know, and
they wanted to scare the crap out of me, and
they did.
Speaker 6: And that's another point. I don't know if this is clear,
how many do you think it was? Because they were
spread down the wall. It wasn't just one.
Speaker 4: Because and I know there was more than one because
of how fast the fists were hitting, Like if it
was a bang bang bang bang, I would have thought
it was just one.
Speaker 2: But it was rapid fire. It was machine gun, and there.
Speaker 4: Was like so many fists going on, and it was
so loud, and it was just like what the hell,
you know? And the sad part is I get out there.
I retrieve the recorder after I flip on all the
lights and work up the courage.
Speaker 2: Doug is on the phone with me. I'm like, okay, if.
Speaker 4: I get eaten, you know, you're at least gonna hear
the results, but you're gonna hear the screen, you know.
So I get the recorder in and I'm shaking still.
I load the cards into the computer and I bring
up the waveforms and I see the beginning has a
spike and the end as a spike, and I play
the beginning spike and it's me talking about the time
and how tired I was, and the end spike is
ME picking it up, going.
Speaker 2: Like I just went through something really crazy.
Speaker 4: I gotta get, you know, and and I'm like, where's
the middle, what's happening? What's where's the middle? At nothing?
There was crickets, there was frog farts from thirty feet away,
there was owls, there was you know, everything on that
recorder except except a barrage of rock concert fists. And
so now I'm like, Okay, that's the first time that
I've been thrust into the paranormal world. And I'm like, okay,
did they plant implant that in my brain?
Speaker 2: Only? Did they?
Speaker 4: Did I slip into another time zone or a different
dimension where it happened, and then I slipped back to
my own dimension.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. It's like these you set
up cameras and all the stuff the next day and
get everything right. And what came of that, Well.
Speaker 4: The homeowner came down the next day, and they came
down with their son, who is a grown person. And
the point is I had him physically fit, you know,
over thirty years old, went outside. He banged the heck
out of the sighting, and he sounded like a toddler
compared to those fists that I heard the night before.
I mean, it wasn't even close. And I'm like, are
you banging as hard as you can? He's like yeah.
I'm like, that is nothing compared to what I heard
last night.
Speaker 6: And so when he was when he was banging and testing,
did it sound like he was lowered down on the walls? Yes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he had to read. It sounded like
he was like on the ground level.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the banging was from way up high.
Speaker 4: It sounded like yeah. So anyways, that's something too. But
there was a weird thing that happened that night. Actually
I want to say it was the next night, and
that goes into the whole paranormal thing again. The the
the sun was sleeping in the room next to me, right,
so there's a wall dividing the two of us, and
the mom's sleeping upstairs, and I hear the sun yell mom,
and it sounded kind of urgent, right, and I'm like,
what the heck? So I'm just like, I'm gonna stay
out of this.
Speaker 2: He asked for his mom.
Speaker 4: You know, mom came running down the stairs.
Speaker 2: She heard it too.
Speaker 4: She starts knocking on the door and she's like, you know,
let me in, let me in.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 4: What's happening he's not answering. I step out into the hall.
I'm like, what's what's happening? And he's not making a peep.
So she goes and gets a lock pick. I'm knocking
on the door and I'm like, dude, dude, you okay,
make you know, talk to us. We're gonna we're coming in.
You know, we're gonna unlock the door. We popped the
door open, and he's I fully expected it to be gone,
like physically just gone.
Speaker 2: He's sitting there on the bed call. He looks over it, like,
what the heck are you.
Speaker 4: Guys doing, and we're like, we're here to assist you.
Speaker 2: We heard you yell.
Speaker 4: He goes, I didn't yell, what the heck are you
talking about? And we were both freaked out because both of.
Speaker 2: Us heard no, no, no, And.
Speaker 4: That's exactly what he said. He's like, I ain't staying
down in this room. Up to the other bedroom upstairs.
He's like, I'm getting the heck out of here, and
I'm just like, okay, great, leave me next to the
room where the freaky So I don't know what's going
on at that place, but something's going on there, and
I don't know if it's you know, the homeowner has
some pretty compelling pictures of sasquatches through trees, so I want.
Speaker 2: To say a sasquatch.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, when I'm hearing voices. Oh,
but you guys just made me think of this. Sasquatches
can imitate voices. I didn't even think about that. I
wonder if it was a squatch. I always thought it
was a ghost or paranormal. But you're right, maybe it
was a squatch.
Speaker 2: So you.
Speaker 6: So it sounded like it came from his room though, right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean and and I I would have just
been like, okay, I'm imagining things, but she came running
down the stairs she heard it too, Ye.
Speaker 6: I do. I do know this when you're in these strange,
these places where things happen no matter what they are. Mhm,
it's sometimes it's so strange you can't even wrap your
head around it, you know, with the orbs and hearing hearing.
People have said, you know, they've heard their name called,
uh and not all not. I think I heard my
name called like clear, you know, so man.
Speaker 2: Yeah and so, but so he asked why didn't he
hear it? Like I don't know?
Speaker 4: And even weirder. This is even weirder on their way home.
They had a several hundred mile drive. On their way home,
the mother said she heard the same thing.
Speaker 2: At one of the restops.
Speaker 4: She heard her yell mom, and she went up to
him and he didn't say it.
Speaker 6: So that's wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was And I'm like, I don't know,
you know, that's the part that makes me think it's
paranormal and it's following them rather than sasquatch.
Speaker 6: So they've they called you up there? What kind of
issues were they having, right, I mean, obviously they were
scared of something.
Speaker 4: Well they Okay, the house was built fourteen years ago
and they've had activity all with all the kids growing
up there. The kids are all in their thirties or
late twenties or whatever. So they've been living there since,
you know, and that's their their mountain house.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: It's like I said, it's about twenty minutes away from
an Applebee's, but it backs up to hundreds of acres
you know, of forest land. So uh, yeah, it's in
New York. But I'm it's undisclosed, so I can't I
can think about that information. But yeah, so the bottom
line is that you know they had activity, and they've
had house laps, but they were just one or two,
just like in Snow Grove. You know, it wasn't this
barrage of fists. And the sad part is I know
that the barrage of fists didn't happen because the zoom
recorder would have picked it up. So it only happened
in my brain.
Speaker 6: And but but did you feel the vibration?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it woke before. I have a CPAP.
Speaker 4: I sleep with a little white noise the generator on
my face, and I sleep through atomic blasts, and this
thing shook me out of bed.
Speaker 6: Do you think if if you're let's let's for giggles,
if you were just dreaming something like that and you
were awake, it woke you up, but you with the
audible sounds, you knew that kind of where they were
on the wall. Then you fill in the vibration with
your body. I would think that would be out not
inside your head, right, wouldn't that be make sense?
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, right, It lasted so long for fifteen
seconds that I was able to get out of bed,
grab my phone, position myself between the between the two beds,
fully conscious, and it was still going right, and I
was wide awake when and I was I should have
hit record on my phone.
Speaker 2: Didn't even think about that.
Speaker 6: But that's that's y'all. I'm telling you when when you're
in a stressful situation, I don't care if it's bigfoot
or what. I fell out here one day. This house
was built in seventy one. I've got concrete steps. I
was walking out one morning and those concrete steps collapsed.
I fell and hurt my reb. I couldn't dial on
my phone for ten to fifteen minutes. I couldn't even
think what numbers are names or I was in so
much pain, and so I was scared of my to
punctured along. I'm just saying it was a stressful situation.
And people want you to take pictures and videos and
turn on a recorder. It ain't happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Luckily I had a recorder out. Unluckily it didn't
capture anything. So now I'm in a weird voodoo land.
Speaker 6: Well that's that's information too. I mean, it obviously was working, yep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So and the file was complete, and I even
I timestamped it, and then I timestamped it at the
end and I matched up the length and the length
was exactly the right time stamps. So I did all
that work and it all was perfect, and the recording
just didn't show it. Now what's interesting is I sent
that recording off to Chris and he said, I listened
to where you said the time where the beating happened,
and he goes, I can hear them walking through the
woods right before that, so he can hear them bipedal
coming down, but he can't, you know. And there was
some damage on the siding. But I did look around
the next morning and the grass wasn't disturbed or matted down,
and you know, but I'm just like, wow, So there's
a little bit of physical evidence. But you know, I
didn't take pictures of the house before when I first
got there. I don't know if it happens like weeks
ago or years earlier, or if it happened that night.
Speaker 6: So and did you say how high up? It was?
Speaker 2: Very high up?
Speaker 4: Yeah it was about almost fifteen feet up. Yeah, Yeah,
it was way up there. Because when I did my
initial search, I looked, I looked at eight to ten fifteen,
eight to twelve feet. You know, I didn't see any
damage It was the last day when I was actually
putting cameras way out in the field. I was actually
coming back to the house and I could see the
whole house, you know, from afar, and I noticed something
up up towards the top, and as I got closer,
I realized that was the damage.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it was way up there. So wow, yep,
weird stuff.
Speaker 6: Obama, you have aing more questions before we go. We
could talk to him for.
Speaker 2: Not really, I just I thought it was great. I
really appreciated him, you know, bringing all the video stuff.
I wish we could have got some of the audio up,
but uh man, that just made it that much better.
Speaker 6: The only way I know how to do that is
get a file, you know, like emailed or whatever, and
then upload it. But I've done that before, but it
but that's the thing. You don't unless you trust somebody,
you don't want to spread it spread it around. I
totally understand that. Yeah, but Adam, thank you. It was
It was nice meeting you. And if you get down
this way again, Hollered, holler at me and Bama for
next year.
Speaker 4: I should come down again next year. This year is
all booked up, but I'll try to make it down
next year, for sure.
Speaker 2: Man, you need to come down sometime when it's lut
don't come down like when it's now. I mean this, humanities,
what's kill interrupt here? Sucks?
Speaker 4: I should come down there during the winter, shouldn't.
Speaker 2: I seriously? I love winter camping. Me and Kill love
winter camping, and is my summer camping. So yeah, I
tell people I go, man, my birthdays and you know,
my birthdays and cold, Well you can come down and
go camping with me, you know. Well.
Speaker 6: The best part about uh, the cold colder air or
whatever is you don't have to worry about snakes that
frees you up a little bit.
Speaker 2: That's a big thing. Snakes and mosquitoes. Man. You know,
I've got a heater buddy of my tent. Man, I
ain't gonna get cold at not, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So yep, uh, hey man, it's for real. It's
nice meeting you and.
Speaker 2: You guys are awesome. Thank you for having me on.
It was so much fun.
Speaker 6: It's it's fun to uh, it's fun to have experiences
even if nothing happened, you know, when we can say,
you know, Adam Colt and Chris Ryan Hart and Greg
Howe me and Heather and Budd and Budd and Angie.
You know, it's just it's it's fun. And yeah, you
when you got down there, you met you met almost
the whole crew. So uh and they and and they
welcomed you in, didn't it.
Speaker 4: I mean it's like, I mean, yeah, it was like
coming home.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so and and and the story at Flat Rocks,
you know, we might get into the next time. I
think Angie and has a.
Speaker 4: Better story because the guys stay back the girls. Yeah,
I mean there was physical contact and all sorts of
stuff going on.
Speaker 6: Yeah, thermal. She saw something on thermal like twenty feet
away when everybody passed. It's like they were going to investigate,
right if I remember correctly. And she's back with a
thermal and they walked past this thing in the dark
and never know it's there.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 6: So that's that's a that's a good story for later two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's that One's not my story. I'll let her,
I know, I know.
Speaker 6: All right, Well, all right, guys, thank y'all. Uh, and
next time, don't call Doug because Doug has a way
of talking you into dangerous situations. It's like you gotta
do this now You're like no. The next thing you know,
you're standing out there in your underwear with Bigfoot trying.
Speaker 2: To get exactly Then Doug's laughing all the way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, guess what I told Adam to do. But all right,
thank you, Byma. I appreciate you, buddy.
Speaker 2: Once again, thanks to everybody chat that's like our I
love all people in our chat, so I can't. I'm
sitting here reading everything, but I wonder respond at then.
I love y'all, So I'll see you on the next one.
Speaker 6: Yep. All right, I'm gonna kick out of here, and
y'all have a good weekend. Safe weekend, and maybe one
of these days we'll figure out what the deal is
with the electronics. That's the big that's a big question,
big question, all right, see y'all.
Speaker 10: Down in the pines, where the water runs black, where.
Speaker 6: The moss hags low and the night leans.
Speaker 11: Back, the stores whisper about a shadow, tall, big feet
moving where the moon that fault.
Speaker 10: Some say it be some saved ghost in the trees.
Speaker 2: Some say it trouble blowing in with the breeze.
Speaker 10: But around here, man, we know the call, or we
just calling friends. The squatching howler, so lie that let
the cat tell shake the.
Speaker 5: Birth time copper heads wading here Georgia fall. That ain't
no and it ain't no go when the creek grother's
cold and the shadows get taller.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're crossing line in the squatting.
Speaker 6: All it just wal' getting.
Speaker 5: A brave man fodder.
Speaker 2: But I mind your stamping. It's watch you.
Speaker 11: Where, body tell me stories about the thing is sauce
to ten foot high.
Speaker 6: With a tomb.
Speaker 5: But y'all red ice burning like a summer's coat track.
Speaker 2: Think enough to swallow your sober The old folks laugh, say.
Speaker 5: Don't you fearfkrit has been living here for.
Speaker 2: Hundreds of years. Treat them with respect.
Speaker 10: When the moon gets smaller and they'll let you live
in squatch and holler sold that fire he let the
swarm from roll.
Speaker 5: You can hear that beats right down in your soul.
If you hear the grun from the river call it
ain't no boat frout barking the lord little swamp runner
still and the crickets get after.
Speaker 4: Yallnight alone, and the.
Speaker 5: Spotting the weather break by ties in the fools off
from give watch.
Speaker 2: On that spotting.
Speaker 11: Some say gods it old pine ridge. Some say he
walks from bridge to bridge.
Speaker 6: The warm things show.
Speaker 11: When the night comes down, something big still calls.
Speaker 6: It's grown so bank that f and the night.
Speaker 11: Get deep at the willows whistle, it's so creech.
Speaker 2: If you catch us glimpse through.
Speaker 5: The midnight, holler, just now your head, don't scream.
Speaker 2: And holler.
Speaker 5: The brother wild on streaming, and the legends getting taller.
Speaker 11: Out wherever it wrongs.
Speaker 5: In squatching Holly, we ain't scared, but we shure stayed
cautious down
Speaker 6: In the dock, on that squatching hall,