Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade.
Speaker 2: It's Thursday, and that means we're going to talk pop
Speaker 2: culture a bravo and I've got my friend here, Alisa Rosen,
Speaker 2: podcast producer, extraordinary. Yes, what's going.
Speaker 3: On, girl, That's all I have to say. Don't go on,
Speaker 3: don't go on. You know I'm excited.
Speaker 4: I haven't taught to you for a while and I
Speaker 4: can't wait to get into it.
Speaker 1: I saw you last.
Speaker 2: I was in la I think it was when I
Speaker 2: was there in June for the HEATHERN McDonald party. And
Speaker 2: I literally had like an all I had was like
Speaker 2: an afternoon, that's all I had, and I met you.
Speaker 2: I went in an uber, I went and met you.
Speaker 2: I don't know where we were, but it was the
Speaker 2: same place that Kyle had the mouse on her mirror.
Speaker 3: Remember we went.
Speaker 1: To lunch at this place.
Speaker 2: You're like, right over there is where Kyle was in
Speaker 2: her car feeling that there was a mouse on her
Speaker 2: rearview mirror, no, her side mirror.
Speaker 4: Yes, that was so funny that you remember that, because
Speaker 4: I've seen I've bumped into Kyle twice at that little
Speaker 4: shopping center because it's right near where her old house
Speaker 4: used to be where Amanda's house now got so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's.
Speaker 4: A very shwanky little shopping center in Beverly, Glenn, like
Speaker 4: in the middle of a canyon. And yeah, we had
Speaker 4: a great time. It was so good to see you.
Speaker 2: You told me so much about a couple of podcasts
Speaker 2: you were working on, and I'm wondering if any of
Speaker 2: those have come out.
Speaker 3: Not yet.
Speaker 4: I've got two dropping well, one probably in the spring
Speaker 4: and one this summer, so I can't actually neither has
Speaker 4: been announced, so I have to wait to.
Speaker 3: Talk about it. But yeah, I'm knee deep. I am
Speaker 3: knee deep.
Speaker 2: They sounded fascinating, so when when they come out, please
Speaker 2: come back on and talk about them. I'm listening to
Speaker 2: a podcast right now called Everything They Missed and it
Speaker 2: is this woman.
Speaker 1: So her husband is Mark.
Speaker 2: Tinsley, who was the prosecutor in the Alec Murdock case.
Speaker 1: So that's her husband.
Speaker 2: And she said, you know, she just started thinking, like God,
Speaker 2: I'd really like to get involved in some projects more
Speaker 2: like with the Innocence Project. You know, people that are
Speaker 2: you know, in jail that didn't do it or whatever.
Speaker 2: So she found this case and it has been fast,
Speaker 2: it has been a fascinating listen.
Speaker 1: It has been.
Speaker 2: She found this case of like, fully, this guy didn't
Speaker 2: do it, like he was very low IQ. And then
Speaker 2: they interrogated him for something like fifty something hours without
Speaker 2: letting him sleep and so and because he was, you know,
Speaker 2: very low IQ, they were just like, if you just
Speaker 2: tell us that you did it, we'll let you go.
Speaker 2: And he's like, okay, so I did it, So can
Speaker 2: I go home now? And they were like, no, now
Speaker 2: you're in jail.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's so upsetting you hear those stories. I
Speaker 4: remember that was Steven Avery's nephew and making a murderer.
Speaker 4: It was a similar yeah, yeah, Brandon Dacy, God you
Speaker 4: have good recover.
Speaker 2: No, I cannot remember somebody I talked to or something
Speaker 2: I said thirty minutes ago. But that's the kind of thing.
Speaker 2: I'll go, oh yeah, Brenda Dacy, and I can like
Speaker 2: picture him in my mind. I'll go down here as
Speaker 2: my husband go, did you call the vet about schedule?
Speaker 2: I go, No, I totally forgot.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of the same way, honestly, like the random
Speaker 4: things I remember from Housewives, like ten seasons ago and
Speaker 4: then versus cannot remember a single thing in my life.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something exciting. Next week, I'm going
Speaker 2: to watch What Happens Live as a guest, you know,
Speaker 2: in the audience. And I believe Amanda Francis is going
Speaker 2: to be the housewife that's there.
Speaker 3: Do you believe it or are you manifesting it?
Speaker 2: I believe it, because if you believe it, then it
Speaker 2: will happen. No, not like that.
Speaker 3: More like I was on the schedule and black and White.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't manage that would not be someone I
Speaker 2: would manifest.
Speaker 3: You manifest her not to be on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But they gave me a list of like who
Speaker 2: was scheduled in the two days I had, and there
Speaker 2: were like six episodes to choose from. And I was like,
Speaker 2: I just need a housewife. I don't care what it
Speaker 2: could be Retema that I don't even watch. I would
Speaker 2: it could be any housewife. And she was the one.
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, this will be good, this will
Speaker 2: be good.
Speaker 3: And she's only Gig and she's what she's.
Speaker 1: All with Gigi from Pali.
Speaker 4: That is the weirdest pairing balls genius because right, Gigi
Speaker 4: with anyone is going to be insane because Gigi's insane.
Speaker 4: But like Yeah, they're each completely insane in their own ways,
Speaker 4: but I can't even picture them being next to each other.
Speaker 1: I know. I'm excited. Are you watching The Persian Valley?
Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah, forgot to put that on my list.
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm not caught up on one behind. Where
Speaker 2: we last left, the psychic had come to the house
Speaker 2: and talked to the guy about, you know, his dead
Speaker 2: wife and then the new wife.
Speaker 3: And the kid, and you might be a few behind.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm two behind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might be two behind. I don't think that
Speaker 3: was last week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 1: I'm really like it.
Speaker 3: It's great. I love it.
Speaker 4: And it's the only co watch I have with my
Speaker 4: husband because he watched the original shows okay, and like
Speaker 4: he has no interest in any Bravo if for some
Speaker 4: reason except the show.
Speaker 3: So I'll take it and.
Speaker 4: We're like analyzing, you know, Tommy and Mercedes relationship.
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is what it would be like if
Speaker 3: I was married to a gay man. Honey, can't you
Speaker 3: just be gay?
Speaker 1: Oh god, what a dream.
Speaker 2: Well, I know, my husband and I don't co watch anything,
Speaker 2: and he definitely doesn't watch anything Bravo. But because this
Speaker 2: is all I got Whenever we're at the beach, I'm
Speaker 2: always like trying to get him into a new show.
Speaker 2: So I've gotten him into Succession. He's ever seen it?
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, the best show ever.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm glued. I'm glued because I'm remembering.
Speaker 2: Because I've only watched it all the way through.
Speaker 4: I know it's a great I rewatched season four at
Speaker 4: some point, like a year after it dropped, and I
Speaker 4: was like, this is the best show ever.
Speaker 2: It is interesting having never rewatched it watching season one.
Speaker 2: Season one, episode one is almost the same as season four,
Speaker 2: episode four, do you know what I mean? They're very similar.
Speaker 2: And I was like, and I don't want to tell them.
Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil anything.
Speaker 3: But right you're like sitting on your hands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Roman in this in this first season, I
Speaker 2: can't remember we're on that episode four or something. Roman
Speaker 2: like goes up to his office window and.
Speaker 3: I'm like, don't say it, don't say it. I remember it.
Speaker 1: And Dave's like, is he?
Speaker 3: Is he?
Speaker 1: Is he peeing?
Speaker 4: Is he?
Speaker 1: And I said no, And I said.
Speaker 3: That's not what's happening here.
Speaker 1: I said, you'll come to realize this is.
Speaker 3: Just another day in the life.
Speaker 2: Ruin's a little off. He's a little off sectually, I
Speaker 2: don't know what.
Speaker 3: He's he's so off.
Speaker 4: I really actually want to rewatch season one because I
Speaker 4: didn't like get the show till like halfway through season one,
Speaker 4: Like I didn't get that it was a dramedy.
Speaker 3: I was just like, what is the show?
Speaker 4: And then like once it clicks, you're like, oh, this
Speaker 4: is actually the best show ever. But it took a
Speaker 4: minute to like get because it was so original. We
Speaker 4: weren't used to any anything like it.
Speaker 2: I told him, I said, it's like deep a little bit,
Speaker 2: and that you kind of have to be listening quickly,
Speaker 2: you know, to the and so I turned the close captions.
Speaker 2: Also you kind of got to be listening because it
Speaker 2: goes really fast.
Speaker 1: But it's not a pure comedy at all. It's very serious,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: He's very into the whole business ye part of it too,
Speaker 2: where they're like you know this year or the bank
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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, good.
Speaker 2: And then at one point of Plouse and I goes,
Speaker 2: does it mean this dog price dr And he was like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I was like, Okay, well this we'll be good.
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Speaker 2: And you're watching The Traders.
Speaker 3: It's not a trolly show. It's a fantastic show. I
Speaker 3: love so much. It feeds me. That's a co watch
Speaker 3: with my daughter, and we just eat it up and
Speaker 3: she makes me wait.
Speaker 4: She's like, got a shower and then I gotta eat dinner.
Speaker 4: I'm like, girl, I need to watch it at six
Speaker 4: o'clock on the dot. We don't watch it till like eight,
Speaker 4: and then I'm just sitting there like, I guess I'm
Speaker 4: watching the pit now.
Speaker 2: So I think what comes on before the Traders. I
Speaker 2: think it's Beverly Hills. So I think I'll watch Beverly
Speaker 2: Hills until nine, and then Traders comes on at nine.
Speaker 4: But on the West Coast, we got the peak is
Speaker 4: different Traders at six, and then we have to wait
Speaker 4: till eight o'clock this time for the Beverly Hills, so
Speaker 4: we actually watch Traders first.
Speaker 3: And then I slide right into Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2: Okay, so every days are those days are hard. So
Speaker 2: I'm gonna like try to get all my works at
Speaker 2: tonight because thursdays that will be sad.
Speaker 3: You gotta start like carbo loading.
Speaker 2: Like just bring me the wine bottles so I don't
Speaker 2: have to keep going back to the kitchen.
Speaker 4: I got a totally two hours just to night.
Speaker 1: I would do that except for a light needles.
Speaker 2: The Traders I'm loving, and I saw something interesting that
Speaker 2: somebody toasted yesterday. It was like psychologically, why Rob is
Speaker 2: able to convince nobody has ever said his name, and
Speaker 2: like the way that he's able to work it, and
Speaker 2: the whole reason behind it is is because he's so
Speaker 2: steady and calm and never shows any fear or panic
Speaker 2: or nervousness or questioning anything. And you watch him and
Speaker 2: he is like that where everybody else will be like
Speaker 2: get in the room, like okay, guys, what do you
Speaker 2: think He never does that.
Speaker 1: He'll just be sitting there and people come to him.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the crazy thing. As some of you know.
Speaker 4: I you know, true crime is like my expertise, and
Speaker 4: that is what you're describing is actually what a psychopath is.
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying Rob's a psychopath, but boy is
Speaker 4: he good at playing the game. I just want I
Speaker 4: want to actually plug Amy phillips Patreon. Okay, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm sure there's an overlap between pink Shade and Amy.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: A new thing is that I listened to podcasts to
Speaker 4: like on a timer to put me to sleep because
Speaker 4: my brain races at night.
Speaker 3: So I fired up the Trader's Patreon.
Speaker 4: Of Amy's Last Night and when I left our message
Speaker 4: sake because I was like, girl, I was laughing so hard.
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is doing the opposite. I need to
Speaker 3: turn this off.
Speaker 4: She basically equated Rob to Elvis and just like I,
Speaker 4: Smoothie is and like that's.
Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna win this game, you know, and just like.
Speaker 4: It is, I swear to God, and it goes on
Speaker 4: the whole episode. The funniest literally use of one hour
Speaker 4: of your time other than Pink Shade is is that episode.
Speaker 3: I was crying. I was laughing so hard, and he
Speaker 3: is he's just like the smoothest operator. Yeah, I mean, god,
Speaker 3: he's gorgeous.
Speaker 1: Gorgeous.
Speaker 3: My daughter and I, you know, it's a little creepy.
Speaker 4: We were both like mommy, Like when he did the
Speaker 4: cat me out, we both were like, I can't, I
Speaker 4: can't look at the screen.
Speaker 3: It's too hard.
Speaker 2: He's he's a gorgeous man. And who I can't remember
Speaker 2: who I was talking to. It was like, oh, I
Speaker 2: don't like it. The snake tattoos, I was like, I do.
Speaker 1: I like them. I think it makes them even hotter.
Speaker 4: I mean, who would have thought I'd find a guy
Speaker 4: in overalls and no shirt attracted like that is like you,
Speaker 4: that's an instant.
Speaker 3: Turn off in my mind.
Speaker 4: The overalls are rough, not for me, not for me,
Speaker 4: like they look fantastic. They look fantastic. Better to see
Speaker 4: the muscles and the snake tattoos.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's so cute. So but I did think that
Speaker 2: was really interesting because it is. It is weird that
Speaker 2: he has been doing this whole thing and nobody has said.
Speaker 1: Doesn't Evenny question why.
Speaker 2: Rob says I've got the dagger, and everybody's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: now we're all under team and they just.
Speaker 3: Okay, And how good is it keeping that secret? Doesn't
Speaker 3: that chime? Like?
Speaker 4: Oh god, I had no idea he had the dagger.
Speaker 4: He's really good at hiding things. Wait a minute, Nope,
Speaker 4: not Rob. There's no bloanet where Rob. He is the
Speaker 4: leader of the faithfuls. He literally is the best faithful
Speaker 4: trader I've ever seen. His gameplay is brilliant. The way
Speaker 4: that he did, Like when they did the boxes last
Speaker 4: week and he was like, all right, here's what we're
Speaker 4: gonna do. He knew exactly how to play. It was like, ok,
Speaker 4: like he has no clue Eric, right, So Rob the
Speaker 4: exact right person too, because he's gonna fold like a
Speaker 4: Rob doesn't even need to do anything with Eric.
Speaker 3: He doesn't even need to manipulate him. He just needs to.
Speaker 3: He just is a trader and that's enough for his
Speaker 3: own downfall.
Speaker 4: Because Kristin, who gets it wrong every week, is already
Speaker 4: like wait a minute, you're acting suspicious. So Kristin's amazing.
Speaker 4: I'm such a huge fan. I read her book. I
Speaker 4: love TOI Yeah, I just think she's incredible. I love
Speaker 4: her style. I just think she's like incredible as a
Speaker 4: human and it's funny that she's not good at the game,
Speaker 4: but the way that she says all her opinions, she
Speaker 4: says them with such clarity and confidence that you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: great point, even though you know the person she's talking
Speaker 4: about is a faithful She's really good at arguments, she's
Speaker 4: just getting it wrong.
Speaker 3: Eric's the first one she's actually getting right.
Speaker 1: She's very calm like Rob.
Speaker 2: Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, that's probably why
Speaker 2: nobody's ever said her name either, because she just has
Speaker 2: very calling energy and no, let's get in here, let's talk,
Speaker 2: let's get in a group, and oh my god, what
Speaker 2: are we gonna do? And have you heard my name?
Speaker 2: And she hasn't done any of that, So, now that
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about it, maybe she's a psychopath too.
Speaker 4: My faith I have a weird feeling it's either gonna
Speaker 4: be Rob that wins, which I'm rooting for, or Kristen
Speaker 4: and Mark together.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just they're like Bestie's too, apparently, like from
Speaker 4: the show, and.
Speaker 3: They're really aligned.
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's not gonna be Johnny and Tara,
Speaker 4: but I love them as a duo. They're so funny,
Speaker 4: they're so funny, like it's the sounds amazing.
Speaker 2: They're hilarious when they get together and they hang all
Speaker 2: over each other like they are long lost lovers. It's hilarious.
Speaker 2: I saw Johnny we Are one time in.
Speaker 1: The Polo Bar. But that's just here's in La the
Speaker 1: Polo Bar in New York.
Speaker 3: Very cool. He's he's a star.
Speaker 1: I mean he's a skirt slitting it out.
Speaker 3: You've got star power. It's just all there is. Some
Speaker 3: people have it.
Speaker 1: Some people don't, like, what is this skincare routine?
Speaker 3: Because the skin is light like luminescent, gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Now here's something I really love about The Traders is
Speaker 2: that we don't get any spoilers. We don't something gets
Speaker 2: leaked in the week before. We know nothing.
Speaker 4: Well, And it's funny because the only quasi spoiler was
Speaker 4: Alan saying about that one episode, like it's the craziest episode.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't the Dinner one, the Dinner one. But
Speaker 2: I was I was ready. I was even going to
Speaker 2: be one minute late. I was eight fifty nine. Now
Speaker 2: it's Netflix.
Speaker 3: I was ready, me peacock.
Speaker 4: Yes, I keep forgetting Sorry, I gotta I gotta give
Speaker 4: it to friends A Peacock.
Speaker 2: Somebody told me or I saw in a Facebook group
Speaker 2: or something that Trader's UK Celebrity Edition is the best
Speaker 2: one to watch if you're looking for another one. They're
Speaker 2: like and they are real. They're celebrities and they're no
Speaker 2: reality stars.
Speaker 4: It's like actual, Like yeah, rost I watching it and
Speaker 4: I couldn't get into it.
Speaker 3: I watched like two or maybe two or three episodes.
Speaker 3: It was okay.
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe I'm biased because I just like
Speaker 4: I like to know the people, and so because I.
Speaker 3: Don't know that, I mean I did know.
Speaker 4: I actually did know, like a couple of them were
Speaker 4: familiar because I've watched UK shows, Like one of my
Speaker 4: favorite shows from Amazon is Catastrophe, and like one of
Speaker 4: the side characters who I certainly did not think this
Speaker 4: was the celebrity as in it, Like there were a
Speaker 4: couple of randoms that I knew Fantastrophe. Yeah, oh my god,
Speaker 4: such a good show. It was like the it was
Speaker 4: like the best friend's husband, the weirdo. So it was
Speaker 4: like it wasn't bad. Like when this season's over, I'll
Speaker 4: probably go to it just because I need my Traders
Speaker 4: to fix, Like this is the show I look forward
Speaker 4: to the most that in Summer House, which I know
Speaker 4: you don't watch, but those are the two that I'm
Speaker 4: like injected into my veins. It used to be how
Speaker 4: I was about Shark Tank and I actually this is
Speaker 4: the first season I'm.
Speaker 3: Not watching Shark Tank.
Speaker 4: Very big deal, but that's how I would feel like
Speaker 4: I could just sit and watch this shark tase on end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but now that.
Speaker 2: Our family, our family would watch. Yeah, but Shark Tank,
Speaker 2: our family would watch. So this is I don't know
Speaker 2: if I said this on the show, if I said
Speaker 2: this on Patreon, but my husband saw Mark Cuban on
Speaker 2: the hill probably it was like December or January, and
Speaker 2: it was it was Congress was out, so it always
Speaker 2: the government shutdown, that's what it was. So but Dave
Speaker 2: was on the hill to see somebody and my husband
Speaker 2: and so he was standing by the you know, uh,
Speaker 2: the mags, the magnet thing you have to go through
Speaker 2: to be sure you don't have a gun. And so
Speaker 2: Dave was sitting there talking to somebody and he sees
Speaker 2: Mark Cuban come in, take a stuff out of his pockets,
Speaker 2: do the whole thing. He was completely alone and just
Speaker 2: comes through and I said he was alone. He didn't
Speaker 2: have one an assistant, a bodyguard, Dave. It's like no,
Speaker 2: it was crazy. And he goes inside every day. You
Speaker 2: see like a billionaire in person, And I said, you
Speaker 2: should have said, hey, man, like my whole family watches
Speaker 2: your show together.
Speaker 3: I bet you'd have liked it. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: he's you know, I know a few.
Speaker 4: People that have had like business relationships with him, and
Speaker 4: I've heard across the board he's the guy. And I
Speaker 4: find that this of a lot of successful people, he's
Speaker 4: the guy that returns your email in one second.
Speaker 3: Like he's not you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: There's either the ones that just ghost you because they're
Speaker 4: too important, or the ones that get right back to you.
Speaker 3: He's the one that gets right back to you.
Speaker 2: And I just know who you know who continues to
Speaker 2: ghost to me, your friend Matt Sharp.
Speaker 3: I can't accept that and I won't accept it.
Speaker 2: I've three times I've seen him in person and I
Speaker 2: was gonna have a chance to see him, and every
Speaker 2: time he's like, oh yeah, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: Elisa, how's she doing?
Speaker 2: This past Christmas, I went to TLC Christmas party and
Speaker 2: Matt Productions Christmas party was the same night, so he
Speaker 2: wasn't at the TLC Christmas party because he was at his.
Speaker 4: It's weird that he did it the same night. He
Speaker 4: should have they should have coordinated that. I mean he
Speaker 4: is TLC at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Howard was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a character. Have you interviewed him?
Speaker 2: I've not interviewed Howard. Yeah, I've talked I've met him.
Speaker 2: And then Dan Albler wasn't character because Dan Adler wasn't
Speaker 2: there because he was at the match Art party.
Speaker 3: Wow, you know it's happen. It's all happening.
Speaker 1: It's it's but it's not happening because.
Speaker 3: Oh did you watch the Valley trailer.
Speaker 1: Oh there's a new Valley trailer.
Speaker 4: Yet, just dropped like like an hour ago. Yeah, well
Speaker 4: it's interesting. Can I can I spoil something along?
Speaker 2: Please tell me, tell me, tell me.
Speaker 3: Okay, So, so I'm Reddit. I don't know why this cuts.
Speaker 4: So you get like Reddit alerts like of things that
Speaker 4: you followed.
Speaker 2: This is the craziest thing that you're saying this to me,
Speaker 2: Like this is one of these like our mind meld,
Speaker 2: we're in sync, we're in sc Because last night I
Speaker 2: got a Reddit alert about something about my friend Heather McDonald.
Speaker 2: It was an email that came and said read it
Speaker 2: on a page you follow or something. So I, because
Speaker 2: it had her name and she's my friend, I clicked
Speaker 2: it and I went and looked and it was kind
Speaker 2: of the wrong information about something.
Speaker 1: So I just sort of like copied a bit of
Speaker 1: it and sent it to her.
Speaker 2: And she goes, this is pretty much all wrong, but whatever,
Speaker 2: I don't look at it. I must be frustrating, and
Speaker 2: I said, okay, And I said, you know what, I
Speaker 2: don't know why I got an alert for that, and
Speaker 2: it would really save me a lot of anguish if
Speaker 2: I didn't get alerts, because then I would and look
Speaker 2: at it.
Speaker 1: And she goes, yeah, you should go into the settings
Speaker 1: and take.
Speaker 2: Those alerts off because and literally she and I were
Speaker 2: talking last night about why do I get read.
Speaker 4: Out the alerts because I had writ and I'm like,
Speaker 4: when have I ever searched read it for Kristin Doty?
Speaker 3: So right, so here we go.
Speaker 4: So I get I read it alert this morning that
Speaker 4: I've paid attention to because I'm like, what, And it's like,
Speaker 4: I think Kristin and Luke aren't together. So I pulled
Speaker 4: that right up. I'm like, excuse me, and you know,
Speaker 4: the little sleuths.
Speaker 3: So then I did a little sleuthing of my own.
Speaker 4: And went to their podcast and they the last podcast
Speaker 4: they recorded together was January ninth, and then her birthday
Speaker 4: was either today or yesterday, and he didn't post for
Speaker 4: her birthday, not a story, nothing.
Speaker 3: So then the valley trailer drops.
Speaker 4: Because I texted my cousin, I said, I said, they
Speaker 4: better be picking those cameras back up. And then and
Speaker 4: then we were saying yeah, but I said, but I
Speaker 4: want to see this is so wrong, I said, but
Speaker 4: I want to see the slow burn of how we
Speaker 4: got here. Then the valley trailer drops, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: I guess we're getting a Luke and Kristen breakup because
Speaker 4: they are so at it.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 4: He was like something about intimacy and then she goes
Speaker 4: because I don't f you, Yeah, like it was, and
Speaker 4: then she said something I swawar, I got to look
Speaker 4: at it again, something about like he's all body and
Speaker 4: no brains.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was, it was. It made Kyle and
Speaker 3: Amanda look sedate, So I'm excited. I got to say.
Speaker 4: I was a little like la la oh, like I
Speaker 4: just wasn't looking forward to it, and Janet is such
Speaker 4: a drip. And then I saw the trailer. I was like,
Speaker 4: you know what, you got me again, Alex, I'm in.
Speaker 3: I'm in.
Speaker 2: Janet is such a drip. Oh my god. She's such
Speaker 2: a good villain though, and she should just go with
Speaker 2: it and just be like, all right.
Speaker 3: I think she is.
Speaker 2: Well and not nearly as sided Jack's.
Speaker 4: I mentioned a reference, you know, Brittany Whitney, Brittany is
Speaker 4: getting her Booby's adds.
Speaker 3: She's like, this is the last ramnant of Jacks.
Speaker 1: Oh take good, good, good good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But no, we didn't even see a like you know,
Speaker 4: breaking news alert. Somebody told I saw someone maybe it
Speaker 4: was Mandy that said that he's in long term rehab,
Speaker 4: which is great if that's true.
Speaker 3: I hope it's true.
Speaker 1: He's been in rehab.
Speaker 2: He was in. He definitely went into a full ninety
Speaker 2: day program and I don't know if he's in long
Speaker 2: term after that. But today recording on Wednesday, yesterday, Tuesday,
Speaker 2: I saw him did a huge post about thanks to
Speaker 2: so and so movers and it showed him, you know,
Speaker 2: a sponsored post him moving out of his place. That
Speaker 2: that that straight up and down nightmare place which is
Speaker 2: like one room per floor.
Speaker 3: The one that was neighbors with shorts.
Speaker 2: Showed him moving out of that place and he's like,
Speaker 2: thanks to So AND's over helping me, Like here's the
Speaker 2: new beginnings.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Maybe he's in a halfway house. Yeah, maybe he's going
Speaker 3: to jail. Just kidding.
Speaker 2: Long term care is what he needs, what he needs,
Speaker 2: So that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Valley, Okay, I have to go look for that.
Speaker 2: And ye look, so shows that have spoilers, okay, so
Speaker 2: when we go to Thrachers, we don't get any spoilers,
Speaker 2: which is incredible and I love it because when it
Speaker 2: comes everything that happens out at the same time, there's
Speaker 2: no leaks, nothing like next week I hear so and
Speaker 2: so gets photoed off, nothing, they've got that ship lot.
Speaker 3: I know you're so right, God, I want it all
Speaker 3: like that. I never know the way.
Speaker 4: For the record, I just watched even the teases anymore
Speaker 4: for the like the what's it called sneak peaks because
Speaker 4: I just want to watch it when it airs.
Speaker 1: I don't ever watch a sneak peak either.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I used to because I was impatient and
Speaker 4: I'm like, I just want to enjoy no spoilers.
Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead, No, Well, I was gonna say a
Speaker 2: show that has been nothing but spoilers and nothing but
Speaker 2: Link's is Love is Blind. Now everybody knows I've covered
Speaker 2: every almost every single season, and I'm covering right now
Speaker 2: on Picture Had probably with Keisha. We're having a great
Speaker 2: time doing it where we did episode one and two,
Speaker 2: then three and four, five and six, seven and eight,
Speaker 2: and then nine as a standalone.
Speaker 3: Alisa had.
Speaker 2: Alisa had one assignment get caught up, but she is
Speaker 2: on a different time zone. She's score evenutes left the nine,
Speaker 2: which I can't talk to you about what happens at
Speaker 2: the mixer.
Speaker 3: Well, and the thing is, I'm dying.
Speaker 4: The thing is, though, is this one so long? And
Speaker 4: I woke up at six thirty and didn't even check
Speaker 4: my phone. I just press play and that, and I
Speaker 4: still couldn't get through it because there's just not enough
Speaker 4: hours in the day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't spoil it.
Speaker 4: I do see, it's funny, like I don't actually do
Speaker 4: you know? Reality receipts with Kiki.
Speaker 3: I think it's her name.
Speaker 4: She gets like a lot of the inside tea, like
Speaker 4: a lot of the stuff that happened, she posted.
Speaker 1: She posted reality receipts and then her name might be
Speaker 1: re Rea.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 2: She posted this long thing today literally saying, because they
Speaker 2: go through and they pull the marriage certificates, every person
Speaker 2: that gets married, every person that doesn't get married, who.
Speaker 1: Says yes, that's all.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say so.
Speaker 2: And then there is one couple that gets married and
Speaker 2: is already divorced. And I already knew that because the
Speaker 2: listener told me. And it's just like so much spoilers
Speaker 2: that even I who who watch your head?
Speaker 1: Because I have screeners, I don't say to you.
Speaker 2: I just feel like, just like I said to you,
Speaker 2: you got episode nine. I know when they get to
Speaker 2: the mixer, which to be the mixer is always the
Speaker 2: best thing when they all get together best.
Speaker 4: That's why the show could just be the mixer and
Speaker 4: I'd be happy. I don't really need the families or
Speaker 4: anything else. We just want to see, like last year,
Speaker 4: the mixer, Remember Joe when he's like, uh, he's not
Speaker 4: my guy, Like there's like some classic things that come
Speaker 4: out of the mixers.
Speaker 2: He said he's see somebody's guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he fucking my guy.
Speaker 3: I was like that was an all timeline, all timeline.
Speaker 1: God, he was funny.
Speaker 3: He was really funny.
Speaker 2: Chris shows up to the mixer and when I tell you,
Speaker 2: he either did twelve lines of coke before he arrived,
Speaker 2: or did it when he was there, or was so
Speaker 2: shit faced. But he is.
Speaker 3: Literally he's on one.
Speaker 1: He's on one.
Speaker 2: Not as much as Amber, because Amber literally calls him
Speaker 2: a pussy ass bitch, calls.
Speaker 3: Him Wait, okay, wait, you're spamming.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying Amber hates him because of the situation
Speaker 2: with Jess.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's always okay, a non spoiler, somebody said, and
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, that's who it is. That Jess
Speaker 4: looks and sounds exactly like Demi Lovado. She has the
Speaker 4: same laugh, the same voice.
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's who it is.
Speaker 1: That's who it is.
Speaker 3: That's who it is.
Speaker 2: And she even looks like her. And Amber sounds like
Speaker 2: Carolyn from The Traders last season.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, just this messy tip Amber Jordan. He
Speaker 4: doesn't look like a Jordan. He looks like a Steve
Speaker 4: Amber and Jordan. I am so uncomfortable anytime I see
Speaker 4: him on my screen.
Speaker 3: He gives me such an ick.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love him.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, not into him at all. I
Speaker 4: just and like they're so mismatched. I just they're my
Speaker 4: least favorite.
Speaker 3: And then spoil and then admission.
Speaker 4: I fast forward through like the normal sweet black and
Speaker 4: white couple.
Speaker 3: The guy he dreads.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, they're adorable, but I don't care, Like
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, if you don't show us them and Cabo,
Speaker 4: you're not gonna get me invested enough to watch their story.
Speaker 3: I just don't care.
Speaker 1: They're very boring because they're great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, so I don't That's not why I'm watching
Speaker 4: Love Is Blind.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, And then you know Chris decide and telling
Speaker 2: Jes telling Jess. I just keep thinking, like what if
Speaker 2: I want to have gone with my number two? Sure,
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what I'm thinking. She's said there, like, motherfucker,
Speaker 2: we're engaged, Like what are you hell trying to do
Speaker 2: something person overnight?
Speaker 1: That is whyy that?
Speaker 3: And like I just used to someone who does pilates
Speaker 3: every day.
Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, I do pilates almost every day, and
Speaker 4: I don't look like I think the woman that you want,
Speaker 4: So like, calm down.
Speaker 2: I just I just can't wait for you to get
Speaker 2: through the mixer, because I've text me later you will
Speaker 2: be I will die. In the words of Amy Archer,
Speaker 2: you will be a woman of a certain rage.
Speaker 3: You will be ooh, I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: I'm going to say my prediction, and don't you have
Speaker 4: to do a poker face. My prediction is he makes
Speaker 4: the moves on Brie and she's into it and she
Speaker 4: dumps con because I think they teased, like last time.
Speaker 3: On the Future episodes that he's like, get out.
Speaker 2: So okay, but you've already seen that scene.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, that's when they.
Speaker 1: Were at the house or at the door.
Speaker 4: I hate when they do that. I was like, I
Speaker 4: think that they this is what that was. God damn it.
Speaker 4: OKAYPS call Mat Sharp watch What Happens Live.
Speaker 3: I will be watching What Happens Live after this.
Speaker 1: Oh I can't wait.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Tom, Okay, I'm not watching it. I got
Speaker 2: bored with it. Have we had a good one of
Speaker 2: the reunion?
Speaker 3: Yes, it was fantastic.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna watch that because I did watch Karen's
Speaker 2: fucking ridiculous interview with Andy, and then I watched her
Speaker 2: second fucking ridiculous interview with Sherry Shepherd.
Speaker 1: Girl, get the fuck out of here with your nose job.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, and no no.
Speaker 3: Oh, she looks amazing.
Speaker 4: I was saying though that she looks amazing. I didn't
Speaker 4: realize it was a nose job.
Speaker 2: And she had that nose job when she came out
Speaker 2: of prison. She comes out of prison, she gets in
Speaker 2: the car, the nose is new. She got that nose
Speaker 2: job before she went into prison.
Speaker 4: I mean, think about it, though, Mary Payne, if you're
Speaker 4: gonna have a.
Speaker 3: Place to heal, you might as well do it in prison.
Speaker 4: You know, like you're gonna be protected. No one's taking
Speaker 4: paparazzi pics of you.
Speaker 1: Right, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: I mean I hate to say it because I you know,
Speaker 4: and I'm not against plastic surgery at all, but like,
Speaker 4: she's never looked better.
Speaker 3: So if that's part of it. Also, I think she
Speaker 3: put like ten pounds on. She looks phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Well, when we saw her last she was like skeleton.
Speaker 3: She was so old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she looks better, that's great, but she is
Speaker 2: not at all in touch with what her problems are
Speaker 2: and not and she is denihilating just river in Egypt.
Speaker 2: I mean, it is it's taking no accountability and it
Speaker 2: is not.
Speaker 4: I feel like she's taking a little I feel like
Speaker 4: she's taking a little not she's not typical Karen with
Speaker 4: none and typical complete delusion.
Speaker 3: I feel she's at like twenty percent, which is growth.
Speaker 2: Well. On the Sherry Shepherd interview, which I would highly
Speaker 2: recommend everybody watching, and on Melissa Wright's Your Vish Therapist,
Speaker 2: I went on her show and we talked about it
Speaker 2: at length, and in the Sherry Shepherd one, Sherry was like,
Speaker 2: you know, I gotta ask, like, how are you saying
Speaker 2: that you could go into prison and help these other
Speaker 2: women when you yourself are just very recently in recovery.
Speaker 2: And I mean, her answer is so like, well, let's
Speaker 2: talk about it. Well everything, oh, let's talk about it. Well,
Speaker 2: let's talk about that. Let's talk about it. Let me
Speaker 2: tell you, let's talk about it. And we're like, okay,
Speaker 2: we're talking about it. Just talk And she would say,
Speaker 2: because I have the experience of Karen, and I could
Speaker 2: go in and give them my experience of Karen, and
Speaker 2: some of them have been in the years, and I
Speaker 2: could say I'm only here for a short time. I
Speaker 2: could give you the experience of Karen, just no answer,
Speaker 2: just circle circle, circle, circle, circle, with no answer. And
Speaker 2: she did all that because she could get out of
Speaker 2: prison earlier if she was like volunteering.
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't know that part.
Speaker 2: And another thing Melissa pointed out is that a lot
Speaker 2: of people prefer in A to AA if they prefer
Speaker 2: for it to be a younger crowd because they can
Speaker 2: manipulate those people. Let me tell you something. You go
Speaker 2: into AA with a bunch of people your age, they're
Speaker 2: gonna call you out in about four seconds.
Speaker 3: Wow, Oh my gosh, that never even occur.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know about NA, but that that that
Speaker 4: is such a great point.
Speaker 3: But I also think that's a great point.
Speaker 4: But I also just think she's in for whatever reason
Speaker 4: and complete denial about the alcoholism, and is okay to say.
Speaker 3: She was addicted to prescription pills? Maybe because you're.
Speaker 2: Wont description, but she won't say which one she which is, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's not antidepressants, you don't addicted to antidepressants.
Speaker 3: Such bullshit.
Speaker 1: And then she's like, I can't say which one because
Speaker 1: I get sued.
Speaker 3: What Yeah, no, you won't. And here's just to put
Speaker 3: a bow on Karen.
Speaker 4: I have said this before Karen pre fourth d Ui
Speaker 4: was my favorite housewive, not just on Potomac, across the
Speaker 4: entire franchise. Wow way that I loved that woman and
Speaker 4: just laughed at every single thing that came out of
Speaker 4: her mouth and endless entertainment and just her hot mess
Speaker 4: of it all. And then I just I'll never come
Speaker 4: back from it if it was her only time. Not
Speaker 4: that it was great, but I could have been like, Okay,
Speaker 4: everyone is entitled to like one mistake. But when I
Speaker 4: heard four, I'm like, honey, that's it. You lost me,
Speaker 4: and I you know what she really I mean, I'm
Speaker 4: glad you did her time, but I don't know, I
Speaker 4: don't really think she deserves to come back on. I mean,
Speaker 4: you really could have killed people. Forget yourself. You could
Speaker 4: have killed other people. It's by the grace of God
Speaker 4: that you didn't, and that's just unforgivable to me.
Speaker 2: Well, they let they let she in up a door,
Speaker 2: come back on, and she could have killed somebody too.
Speaker 2: She crashed right into that house and injured herself and
Speaker 2: her dog. As somebody given walking out of the front door.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm don Jansson.
Speaker 3: Well I'm not a fan, so that's the difference there, so.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, yeah, I get it, but also the same
Speaker 2: same Listen every person on Bravo. That's Bravo please, I mean.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about Beverly Hills. What is it.
Speaker 3: Let's talk to my Amanda. Let's miss.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you.
Speaker 4: Oh, I think she's so great. I like her so much.
Speaker 4: She's so my type of girl. I just like I
Speaker 4: was the same way when I was growing up, Like
Speaker 4: I totally manifested Malibu Barbie Gmail, Wait, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 3: I don't want to cry.
Speaker 4: But when I think about that, it's just like I really,
Speaker 4: okay fucking hate her.
Speaker 3: I fucking hate her, Like, okay, so do you remember that?
Speaker 4: Like my most hated housewife of all time was Lydia
Speaker 4: from OCI.
Speaker 3: For some reason, she just exploded.
Speaker 4: It is but for some reason whatever, I'm sorry, but
Speaker 4: she just made my head explode. Samantha Francis has taken
Speaker 4: the mantle. I have never actively raged had a housewife
Speaker 4: the way that I rage at Amanda. Having said that,
Speaker 4: I do think that it's good she's on the show
Speaker 4: for now.
Speaker 3: I don't know what next season will be like.
Speaker 4: Before now, I think it's working, but watching her is like,
Speaker 4: I am going to need some narcotics before I watch
Speaker 4: the next episode again because she They should be a
Speaker 4: trigger warning, like if you're triggered by anyone like this
Speaker 4: cult leader, you need to you know, have a drink.
Speaker 2: It is interesting that this last episode, it's sort of
Speaker 2: like they now have a common enemy.
Speaker 1: The women.
Speaker 5: They're like, oh yeah, they are real time too.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: They like Rachel Zoe wouldn't even talk about her on
Speaker 4: Andy like she would say talking about anyway she had
Speaker 4: no work, like this girl only is going to get
Speaker 4: worse from here, and that's hard to believe because she's
Speaker 4: already insufferable and we have do Ree sitting right there,
Speaker 4: and yet Doret said the worst possible thing at the
Speaker 4: worst possible time, and we're still on Dirreat's side against
Speaker 4: a Mandic because my man, is that terrible.
Speaker 1: It's you know.
Speaker 2: It did also make me think when they were talking
Speaker 2: about her being a one upper, like if you go, oh,
Speaker 2: you have a beautiful pool, you know our pool is crazy,
Speaker 2: and so it maybe it may be actually like examine myself,
Speaker 2: like do I do that? Like I really started to
Speaker 2: think about it.
Speaker 1: I was like I need to be.
Speaker 2: Careful that I don't think I'm making conversation and people
Speaker 2: think I'm trying to not even a one of her
Speaker 2: because very few people like auld one up.
Speaker 1: But then you don't if you don't say I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know what it would be. But I'm like, now
Speaker 1: I'm like paranoid because I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, you have I can see why I have an
Speaker 2: accent wall. We just got this done.
Speaker 1: I love it so much.
Speaker 3: I love it. I really love it.
Speaker 1: I really love it. I do.
Speaker 2: I find it fascinating that they all And then last
Speaker 2: week when Sudden goes I'm sorry, You're gonna have to
Speaker 2: stop being such a lamp, and I was like, that
Speaker 2: was great, it was great.
Speaker 1: She was like, she was like, don't.
Speaker 2: Call me a whimp in my own home, my home.
Speaker 1: I was like, she didn't. I shouldn't see.
Speaker 2: A word a whim.
Speaker 3: I can.
Speaker 4: I mean, she's actually the worst. Last week was really good.
Speaker 4: That was the best episode so far this season. I
Speaker 4: loved it. And the bar is low for Beverly Hills,
Speaker 4: like not a lot has to happen for me to
Speaker 4: like the show, like it's kind of candy, but last
Speaker 4: week delivered. I was like, wait, this is actually a
Speaker 4: great episode and.
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 1: Thoughts on Rachel Zoe.
Speaker 4: I was just going to say the best I just
Speaker 4: loved because I watched every episode of the Rachel Zoo
Speaker 4: Project and yeah, so like I you know, and I
Speaker 4: always thought to myself, like, who has a marriage like this?
Speaker 4: Like these two are just they are best friends. They
Speaker 4: literally work together twenty four to seven. They seem so
Speaker 4: in love all the time. Even when they're bickering, they're
Speaker 4: just so psyched to be at each other's side, Like
Speaker 4: I couldn't work with my husband for five minutes. And
Speaker 4: it just goes to show, you know. And what I
Speaker 4: love the most is that she came literally only to
Speaker 4: do the show, to just go after him and drag him.
Speaker 3: And I love it.
Speaker 4: I love a petty bitch and to see it come
Speaker 4: from her who was like very.
Speaker 3: Guarded that way normally and like would not do that. Oh,
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 4: I just can't wait because every episode she says something new.
Speaker 4: I'm like, keep going, baby, keep going, drag him.
Speaker 2: You know. What was interesting is that so that episode
Speaker 2: we had Brad Gereski was on with someone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just reached it.
Speaker 1: And then the next week and the next week.
Speaker 2: It was Rachel.
Speaker 3: Was on with Yeah, it was Yeah.
Speaker 2: And he put up they put up pictures of like
Speaker 2: trasham or fashion or whatever, Tasashi or her bachi, you know, whichever,
Speaker 2: and they put up Brad Goreski's outfit from the week before,
Speaker 2: where he looked like a porn star. It was like
Speaker 2: a mustache and like an opening and she and Andy
Speaker 2: kind of goes, what do you think She's like, no,
Speaker 2: not good. So that's the people are getting so annoyed.
Speaker 2: They're like, how can you have Brad Goreski on and
Speaker 2: never mentioned Rachel Zoe? How can you have Rachel Zoe
Speaker 2: on and never mentioned Brad? And so that was kind
Speaker 2: of a little I think that was Andy's lill nod
Speaker 2: to the audience, like, I know, but I'm not being
Speaker 2: an asshole to my guests to bring it up, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4: I mean, whatever happened, I don't My guess is that
Speaker 4: wasn't just one thing. I don't think it was like
Speaker 4: a sudden av thing. I think like something really bad
Speaker 4: had like a really bad fight happened with Sudden and an
Speaker 4: od and that was like the final straw. I don't
Speaker 4: think it was late, but I think with Rachel and Brad,
Speaker 4: like listen, Rachel is Rachel Zoe for a reason. She's
Speaker 4: a classic narcissist. She's like Bethany. You know, it's got
Speaker 4: to be the Rachel Show. She's really good at what
Speaker 4: she does and she needs to be the star, and
Speaker 4: Brad started to eclipse her. I think that the clients
Speaker 4: started to have their own relationships with Brad. Whether or
Speaker 4: not he was egging it obviously, this is all ledge.
Speaker 4: I have no idea whether or not he was egging
Speaker 4: it on or not, or just naturally just gravitating toward people.
Speaker 4: And obviously he was trying to make a name for
Speaker 4: himself and he had a lot of talent.
Speaker 3: I think that just wasn't going to work. You know,
Speaker 3: you have the sun and you have the moon, and
Speaker 3: it's like she needs to be the sun. End of story.
Speaker 4: So you know, there might have been things that happened
Speaker 4: that she felt were unforgivable, but that was you know,
Speaker 4: once Brad grew into his own that was very clear
Speaker 4: it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Going to work.
Speaker 2: I would never in a million years compare Rachel Zoe
Speaker 2: to Bethany Frankle. And by the way, I like Bethany.
Speaker 2: I think she's fucking hilarious. But I would never but
Speaker 2: I would never compare those two.
Speaker 3: You don't think Rachel's a narcissist.
Speaker 1: I really don't.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 4: Interesting, I need to marinate on that because to me,
Speaker 4: you know, everything had to revolve around her, like on
Speaker 4: the show, on the Rachel Zoe Project.
Speaker 1: I'm going after the I'm going friends the Rachel.
Speaker 2: I see now, yeah.
Speaker 4: I know interesting. Interesting, Okay, let me think about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I really dunk about it.
Speaker 2: I think the way that she's able to sit in
Speaker 2: shitty chat with her girlfriends and the way she's I.
Speaker 3: Kind of used to be like that.
Speaker 4: Remember, it's kind of weird, Like remember back in the day,
Speaker 4: she was a really fun girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Like, she's just become insufferable to me.
Speaker 2: She can't she can be and then she can't be,
Speaker 2: and then she can't be. Funny as shit too.
Speaker 4: Oh she's undeniably funny. I mean, yeah, it's just facts
Speaker 4: as gods.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't think and I think Rachel is
Speaker 2: very funny, but in a I die kind of a way,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I love yeah, I love her on
Speaker 3: the show. Is the long answer.
Speaker 2: She and Bo's were going back and forth and Bose
Speaker 2: was saying, yes, she and Amanda Francis is a mana. She
Speaker 2: writes books, she's a manifestor. And Rachel's like, wait stop,
Speaker 2: what's her business? And bo was like, that's her business.
Speaker 2: She was like, but I don't understand what is the business?
Speaker 2: I thought she just manifested and both goes that's her business.
Speaker 2: It was like who's on first? It was back and forth.
Speaker 2: Rachel could not grasp her brain around what do you mean?
Speaker 2: How does she sell books? Unmanifesting? Like what do you mean?
Speaker 2: And Boz's like this, I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rachel is all of us, I mean, and we're like,
Speaker 3: what is this? You're telling people how to be rich
Speaker 3: but you're not rich.
Speaker 4: You only got rich from telling people how to be
Speaker 4: rich without being rich first, Like it's crazy and.
Speaker 3: Just I love those Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: I love Bo's, but I'm very uncomfortable with her storyline
Speaker 4: this season. Very young, and I wasn't comfortable with it
Speaker 4: last season. I just my radars up on Keeley has
Speaker 4: always been.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, all just my opinion.
Speaker 4: Anybody who is pressuring a forty eight year old woman
Speaker 4: who already has a teenage daughter to have kids just
Speaker 4: because you want kids. How about go with somebody younger
Speaker 4: and not you know, make this woman go through hell
Speaker 4: and back for something that's most likely never going to happen.
Speaker 2: Can we not? If they're going to be together and
Speaker 2: they want to be together and they want to have
Speaker 2: a child, I mean, there's.
Speaker 3: There's other ways exactly have an adoption.
Speaker 1: Adoption.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's disgusting.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's awful to watch it. It literally feels
Speaker 4: like I'm watching abuse.
Speaker 3: I'll talk.
Speaker 1: I feel it's the doctor is shady. The doctor is
Speaker 1: shady as shit.
Speaker 3: Well and why did they? I'm sorry. We live in
Speaker 3: Los Angeles. This is the place.
Speaker 4: New York or LA are the places to get fertility doctors.
Speaker 3: Why do you need to go to Vegas to do that?
Speaker 4: Because none of the doctors here would do it with
Speaker 4: your own egg Like that gives me, you know, going
Speaker 4: to Mexico for your facelift or whatever, like or turkey,
Speaker 4: you know, like, it's just weird.
Speaker 3: It's weird.
Speaker 2: I will say that somebody posted one of the groups
Speaker 2: that that doctor's office was closed down.
Speaker 3: I heard it was for being shady, for.
Speaker 2: Being shady not paying rent, has money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like she has money, she doesn't go, you know,
Speaker 3: need to do it on the slide. I don't know.
Speaker 3: The whole thing is just it's red flaggy for me.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like her, I like her daughter. I like
Speaker 2: to mom comes around. I like all of it. I
Speaker 2: don't need the storyline of this guy in this pregnancy.
Speaker 2: Don't need it.
Speaker 4: Love her, love her daughter, did not love her giving
Speaker 4: her daughter a Masarati.
Speaker 3: That was another no.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is not this is not okay
Speaker 4: for me. I'm sorry, I'm gonna be judgy. No, that's
Speaker 4: a hard null.
Speaker 2: Well, just because you know, as you and I have
Speaker 2: had teenage daughters and know how they drive.
Speaker 3: That's not even it.
Speaker 1: It's t that's it because that kid's can wreck that car.
Speaker 3: I mean obviously that's it. But it's more just like
Speaker 3: is that.
Speaker 4: I know she's a great kid, but like the message,
Speaker 4: it's just it's a Maserati. Even if it was a
Speaker 4: Porsche for Porschow, which is so, but like, okay, fine,
Speaker 4: a Porsche. This is a luxury car, but it's not
Speaker 4: the same level as Maserati.
Speaker 3: This is not so.
Speaker 2: It just was they're trying to give your kid a
Speaker 2: luxury car and they're that age and they've just got
Speaker 2: their driver's license. Literally, go BMW, like goss, go the
Speaker 2: lowest rung a luxury car and let them start out
Speaker 2: and just see how good of a driver they are.
Speaker 1: I can't believe we're even like, you know what you
Speaker 1: should do for your sixteen year old? Give them a BMW,
Speaker 1: don't Southern charm.
Speaker 2: We're into this situation with Craig and Austin where Austin's
Speaker 2: very clearly told Craig, I have an addiction. I can't
Speaker 2: go out, I can't party. I have an addiction. Let
Speaker 2: me drink straight from this move. Come, I have an addiction.
Speaker 2: Took Austin, took him out his word. Man, let me
Speaker 2: support you. You definitely shouldn't go out and party. You
Speaker 2: have an addiction. This season, Craig's like, I'm going out
Speaker 2: and party, and what the fuck is the problem.
Speaker 4: My cousin, who's almost caught up, she texted me last week.
Speaker 3: She's like, so we're just not going to mention the
Speaker 3: fact that dreg that Craig.
Speaker 4: Is an alcoholic the season and he was sober supposed
Speaker 4: to be an addict I'm like, we're just not mentioning it.
Speaker 2: No, we are, we are going.
Speaker 3: To mention it at all. Yeah, No, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: Craig is unhinged this season, complete hot mess. I mean,
Speaker 4: he can usually reel me back in with his charm,
Speaker 4: with the southern charm, but like, I'm over. I gotta say, like,
Speaker 4: I'm over, I'm done. The one who is reeling.
Speaker 3: Me back in against my will is Shep.
Speaker 4: He always does, it does, And I'm like, why, why
Speaker 4: is this happening again? Haven't we been through Taylor and
Speaker 4: all the things? How could I possibly accept Shep back
Speaker 4: into my life? And here we are He's endearing the season.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I like Witner.
Speaker 1: I don't know why nobody isn't helping on what we're missing?
Speaker 3: What are we missing? It's so weird. I'm like, the cutest,
Speaker 3: most stable, normal guy is sitting right there and nobody
Speaker 3: cares about it.
Speaker 4: And Rich as fuck Rich scratch sheet Grass is like
Speaker 4: a compound.
Speaker 1: In she Grass.
Speaker 2: I was like, it's a three bedroom cabin for you.
Speaker 1: It's a three bedroom cabin for you. It's a four.
Speaker 2: Vedroom cabin for you.
Speaker 1: It's like it's a twelve bedroom home.
Speaker 3: Yere and then he's like, there's the pool and here's
Speaker 3: this man.
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, this place is a man and I
Speaker 4: love his parents, like sign me up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I can? I am I too old? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 4: He gets up, he works out, he has a goes
Speaker 4: to an office to it actually has a job, Like
Speaker 4: what's wrong here? And then the girls were on What's
Speaker 4: what happens Life? They're like, oh now he's terrible. I'm like,
Speaker 4: what are we not see? Because he seems great.
Speaker 1: He seems great and his aunt is Jane Buffett.
Speaker 3: So crazy, right, you must be obsessed.
Speaker 1: It's I got like a big Jimmy Buffett fan. I
Speaker 1: like Jimmy.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 5: I thought, okay, no's over for being a deadhead, right,
Speaker 5: I thought it was No. It is not crossover because
Speaker 5: Andy a seems to Jimmy Buffett and he met Whitner
Speaker 5: before he was even on Southern Charm through Jimmy Buffett,
Speaker 5: and like this is rich people.
Speaker 2: I love it well because Andy is friends with Jimmy
Speaker 2: and Jane Buffett, and it was so interesting I watch
Speaker 2: what happens Abbie. He's like, you know, I met you
Speaker 2: that time with your aunt and we were like when
Speaker 2: are we gonna go Witner on the show, And I
Speaker 2: was like, this is some Frisch people shit.
Speaker 3: It really was.
Speaker 4: Winter's like, okay, let's do it. I mean, I love
Speaker 4: Southern Charm. I love Molly. She's my MVP her and
Speaker 4: Rod or my MVPs.
Speaker 2: Love Mollie and Rod love. I love Mollie's just in
Speaker 2: this horror apartment.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know, Mollie and Rode like
Speaker 4: a travel show, like a food travel show, be so fun,
Speaker 4: like a spinoff.
Speaker 2: I would watch that. I know she's now dating this
Speaker 2: guy and is the lead singer of the band of
Speaker 2: this guy, and supposedly everything's like great and they're fine
Speaker 2: and oh good, yeah, and that she settled down and
Speaker 2: that makes me such a hot messy.
Speaker 1: I love her.
Speaker 2: The last thing I want to discuss. Okay, we did Traders,
Speaker 2: we did Love is Blind, we did Beverly Hills, we
Speaker 2: did Southern Charm, Potomac. I only wanted to discuss because
Speaker 2: I wanted you to tell me about it now. I
Speaker 2: really almost want to do an addentum to this after
Speaker 2: you see Chris at the mixer, because I really just
Speaker 2: can't believe that you're.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, I have thirty nine minutes left.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what do you want to pick it back
Speaker 4: up when I'm done late?
Speaker 3: Can you do it later?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But then Inger will kill me, so I can't. She'll
Speaker 2: killing Okay, she will kill me if I go hey
Speaker 2: at about nine o'clock to night and the second part in.
Speaker 4: The show we okay, if I finish in time for
Speaker 4: the show notes, you could put put You could screenshot
Speaker 4: my text message when I say okay, I'm Jay.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, you guys be on following Instagram and I'll
Speaker 2: put it there because I mean, if you thought you
Speaker 2: hated Alex, and if you thought you hated Chris when
Speaker 2: he said, like I just need a girl that like
Speaker 2: is not so fat, you know, just is like tiny,
Speaker 2: she's like you know, size to doctor. If you thought
Speaker 2: you hated any of that, you just wait until the
Speaker 2: grage that is going to come across you. You may
Speaker 2: have to like go outside and take a walk and
Speaker 2: come back.
Speaker 3: I can't wait.
Speaker 4: I'm literally like, can we wrap this up so I
Speaker 4: can watch. I'm gonna make my lunch and I'm going
Speaker 4: to fire it up with eating my salad and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna ignore all my emails and just focus.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, tell everybody where they can find you and
Speaker 2: all the projects you're working on and all the things
Speaker 2: you guys. Alisa is a boss babe hashtag boss bitch.
Speaker 3: Go boss.
Speaker 4: So the best place to follow me really only place
Speaker 4: is a y R media Lisa Rosen on Instagram. That's
Speaker 4: where I post everything about work. Right now, we're trying
Speaker 4: to get nominated for an Emmy for Spy High, which
Speaker 4: is a four part series that we did for Amazon. Yes,
Speaker 4: so I have like a little four year consideration thing
Speaker 4: on my feet, so hopefully we'll get some nominations there
Speaker 4: would be amazing.
Speaker 3: And then yes, keep.
Speaker 4: Posted because we will hopefully some have announcements on some
Speaker 4: projects soon, like in the next few months. So thank
Speaker 4: you for you always supporting me and my projects. That
Speaker 4: means a lot. And I'll definitely come back on when
Speaker 4: I have I can promote stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay, and everybody, if you haven't watched The End of
Speaker 2: Love is Blind, I don't know why are.
Speaker 1: You listening to this?
Speaker 3: Why are we even talking?
Speaker 2: Why are we talking? But go over if you want
Speaker 2: to hear the recaps. They come out on Wednesdays right
Speaker 2: when the episodes drop. Our recaps come out and thank
Speaker 2: you Eliza as always for chatting Bravo with me, and
Speaker 2: maybe one day, one day you will lead me to
Speaker 2: Matt Sharp.
Speaker 3: But what else can we need? A PSA?
Speaker 4: Should we do like A? Well, no, I don't want
Speaker 4: to with Nancy Guthree. I don't want to make any
Speaker 4: hostage video jokes. But but Matt Sharp, if you're listening,
Speaker 4: which we need to not because you continue to ignore
Speaker 4: my friend, I don't know what to tell you, sweetie,
Speaker 4: Just get on the zoom with her.
Speaker 3: It's not that difficult.
Speaker 2: I'm so fun and I'm constantly interviewing their talent, and
Speaker 2: they know that I'm going to do softballs and I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna like and I'll cut things out when you
Speaker 2: asked me to, right.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the key right there. All right, We'll
Speaker 3: continue to work on him.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen him or talk to him in a
Speaker 4: long time, but I will next time I see him,
Speaker 4: I will say, if you don't do it, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: have some break both your legs.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, Well that.
Speaker 3: We have to threaten violence. That's the only thing you
Speaker 3: might listen to.
Speaker 4: We gotta reason you, gotta can't reason with him anymore.
Speaker 4: We got to resort to violence.
Speaker 1: Okay, violence.
Speaker 3: Good to see you, bye,