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Speaker 2: Louisville Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: The line has moved since the show started, according to
Speaker 3: sports to Draftking Sportsbook, it's now Louisville plus seven. It
Speaker 3: was Louisville plus six and a half. I think so
Speaker 3: Notre Dame is deserving to be the favorite, There's no
Speaker 3: doubt about it. I mean, they're at home and their
Speaker 3: Notre Dame, and yes, they did lose to Northern Illinois
Speaker 3: and that loss aged poorly, but they did go in
Speaker 3: and beat Texas A and M at their place. Now
Speaker 3: we'll see how well that win ages for them down
Speaker 3: the line. But in our conversation earlier, if you guys
Speaker 3: missed it, we brought in one of the Notre Dame
Speaker 3: beat writers who I thought was very informative, just kind
Speaker 3: of given some perspective from that side of it, Tyler Horka,
Speaker 3: who is a beat writer for Blue Andgold dot Com.
Speaker 3: You know, this Notre Dame is in a weird spot
Speaker 3: because they usually don't have a Northern Illinois type loss
Speaker 3: on their resume at this point in the year, and
Speaker 3: any loss to anybody is going to eliminate them from
Speaker 3: the playoff for sure. I think they've already got themselves
Speaker 3: in a tough spot. But now they've got a Louisville
Speaker 3: team that, on paper is a top fifteen team. I'm
Speaker 3: not ready to say that I know that for sure
Speaker 3: that they're a top they are a top fifteen team.
Speaker 3: But either way, this is one of the more challenging
Speaker 3: games for Notre Dame the rest of the way, and
Speaker 3: they've got no room Forrayer. So you could certainly since
Speaker 3: this is a big, big test for Marcus Freeman. Not
Speaker 3: that you know this is going to decide if he's
Speaker 3: the guy for Notre Dame or not, but Notre Dame
Speaker 3: being out of the playoff conversation before we get to
Speaker 3: October would not be a good look for him in
Speaker 3: year three, speaking a good look in Ken Spencer, he's
Speaker 3: joining us here on a Thursday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Ken, how are we doing, brother, dude?
Speaker 5: What a segue?
Speaker 2: You like that? You like that?
Speaker 3: I just pulled that one out of the back pocket.
Speaker 3: I just it just it came naturally. So we saw
Speaker 3: Louisville play a real team last week no offense to
Speaker 3: Austin p and and Jacksonville State, but they were playing
Speaker 3: an ACC FO who has certainly shown under brit Key
Speaker 3: to be, if anything, a solid team.
Speaker 2: What did you make of the game itself?
Speaker 3: And I guess more than anything, what did you learn
Speaker 3: about Louisville when we saw them play, you know, an
Speaker 3: ACC caliber team for the first time?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean honestly, like I didn't, you know, I
Speaker 6: don't know how everybody kind of looked at that game,
Speaker 6: but but but I felt we will played pretty well
Speaker 6: that game, you know, like overall, like I think when
Speaker 6: you play against tougher teams, right, Like, you know, one
Speaker 6: of the things that I liked was it was not
Speaker 6: easy Like Tyler Shuck when when he got to his
Speaker 6: fifth step, he had to get off his mark a lot,
Speaker 6: and so he wasn't just able to kind of stay
Speaker 6: in there and he and he had to escape the
Speaker 6: pocket and make some things happen both with his legs.
Speaker 6: And I love his decision making process, to be honest
Speaker 6: with you, Like, I just think that he tries to
Speaker 6: make it pretty boring as far as like he's just
Speaker 6: gonna find an open guy and then you know, he's
Speaker 6: he's totally willing to take shots, as we saw with
Speaker 6: the long touchdown to Jacory Brooks, even with the past interference.
Speaker 6: So you know, I like, I liked all of that
Speaker 6: stuff because you know, look in the acc and when
Speaker 6: you play tougher teams, it's not going to be so
Speaker 6: easy for your offensive line just to protect you all day.
Speaker 6: And it's not going to be easy for the offensive
Speaker 6: line just to open up gaping holes against you know,
Speaker 6: pretty good teams, and so like that was that was
Speaker 6: kind of what we saw, like right, like, they're not
Speaker 6: just going to be able to run for days and
Speaker 6: they're gonna have to work for.
Speaker 5: A little bit.
Speaker 6: And you know what they did, and they made some
Speaker 6: they made some plays that were the plays that you
Speaker 6: don't count on going into a game, and sometimes you've
Speaker 6: got to be willing to do that and take the chance.
Speaker 6: I like them, and they're aggressive mindset in some of
Speaker 6: those areas. So yeah, I thought I thought overall, like
Speaker 6: I thought it was a pretty good performance by them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think Georgia Tech under brin Key,
Speaker 3: they've done a good job of just letting team keeping
Speaker 3: teams from playing a clean game. You know, Louisville I
Speaker 3: think did a pretty good job, but it you know,
Speaker 3: at making plays, and you're right, that's the best way
Speaker 3: to describe it, because some people have said fluke luck.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just place you don't count on with
Speaker 3: a special team's touchdown in a defensive touchdown. But I
Speaker 3: think teams that are locked in they're gonna make you
Speaker 3: pay for those mistakes. And they certainly didn't have the
Speaker 3: right coverage on the on the field goal kick, and
Speaker 3: obviously I don't know what their quarterback was thinking on
Speaker 3: that on that play. But yeah, I kind of still
Speaker 3: feel I feel like Louisville right now the team that
Speaker 3: I thought they had. I feel content that they still
Speaker 3: can can be that team. But I think this's gonna
Speaker 3: be a much different test against Notre Dame. How much
Speaker 3: do you factor in the lost in Northern Illinois, because
Speaker 3: clearly it's an upset, but that those things do happen,
Speaker 3: and I think it's a much different situation if Notre
Speaker 3: Dame didn't have that win against Texas A and M.
Speaker 2: Like, I think they should be favored here Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: They are at home, But I kind of feel like
Speaker 3: this is where you really learn which Notre Dame team
Speaker 3: They've got right because they're winning the they're winning the opener,
Speaker 3: still impressive, but that lost inn IU did not age
Speaker 3: well for them.
Speaker 6: No, look, I thought, you know with that at that
Speaker 6: Texas A and M game, and maybe some of this
Speaker 6: is is Notre Dame's defense. Like I just was, like,
Speaker 6: this is one of the worst offenses I've ever seen
Speaker 6: in my life when I was watching that Notre Dame
Speaker 6: Texas A and M game that night, and so and
Speaker 6: then they lose Northern Illinois, then they go beat the
Speaker 6: breaks off of Purdue and then obviously Miami of Ohio
Speaker 6: last week. No, I think that this this game this
Speaker 6: week will tell you everything you need to know about
Speaker 6: Notre Dame. And you know, like you know how you
Speaker 6: learn about teams what Notre Dame is.
Speaker 5: You'll see this week they're at home, you know. I haven't.
Speaker 6: I saw the forecast yesterday. I don't think it's supposed
Speaker 6: to be bad in South Bend, like I think it's
Speaker 6: supposed to be pretty decent, maybe cloudy, Maybe that's maybe
Speaker 6: that's changed with with Helene. I don't know if it's
Speaker 6: supposed to get up there or not. But you know,
Speaker 6: one of the things that that I would say kind
Speaker 6: of coming into this thing. And this may be just
Speaker 6: a gut feeling. I kind of feel like Louisvill's a
Speaker 6: bad matchup for very day. And maybe it's because yeah,
Speaker 6: and I and I just that's like a gut feeling,
Speaker 6: and so you know, maybe it's just because of the
Speaker 6: way Louisville plays, and I feel like the way Notre
Speaker 6: Dame plays, I feel like Louisville may be a bad
Speaker 6: matchup for them, and and so this kind.
Speaker 5: Of plays into the cards favor a little bit.
Speaker 6: Probably can't even completely articulate why I feel that's the case.
Speaker 5: It's just by the games that.
Speaker 6: I've watched from both teams. Like I'm like, man at
Speaker 6: this Louisville team and some of the athletes they got
Speaker 6: some of the spots it could give Notre Dame fits,
Speaker 6: I mean, and it also helps you know, when you
Speaker 6: have a guy like Tyler Shuck in my opinion, and
Speaker 6: maybe you know something changes or whatever, like he just
Speaker 6: you know, and the best way I can describe it,
Speaker 6: I feel like sometimes he plays boring football, like he
Speaker 6: goes back there and he just finds the open guy,
Speaker 6: and that's and that's the person who gets the ball,
Speaker 6: like and and and if you're an offensive coordinator, if
Speaker 6: you're a fan of that team, god, you love to
Speaker 6: watch that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's sometimes guys who don't have maybe
Speaker 3: the best arm, and he's got a good arm, I believe,
Speaker 3: but you know, keeping it simple and not you know,
Speaker 3: you know, just making the simple play. I think some
Speaker 3: guys don't have the ability to fight off the urge
Speaker 3: to try to make something spectacular happen. And he's been
Speaker 3: able to make some special plays up to this point.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Tyler Shuck is just and I can't really
Speaker 3: articulate why I feel so good about him at quarterback.
Speaker 3: I mean, his numbers have been good and he looks good,
Speaker 3: but there's just there's something about his confidence that I
Speaker 3: think is really going to rub off on this offense.
Speaker 2: And you know.
Speaker 3: He's been a pretty good quarterback that his entire career
Speaker 3: just has not been able to stay healthy. And right
Speaker 3: now he is and he'll be relied on for sure
Speaker 3: on Saturday. I'm gonna sound like such a homer here, Kent,
Speaker 3: but I think it's a bad matchup for Louis because
Speaker 3: I think Jeff browms and a lot better coach than
Speaker 3: Marcus Freeman. Doesn't mean Louisville is guaranteed to win, but
Speaker 3: I think the match up here, the matchup advantage when
Speaker 3: it comes to coaches x's and o's, I'd give it
Speaker 3: to Jeff. And these are games where you know he thrives.
Speaker 3: I mean, he wins these kind of games. Not to
Speaker 3: say he's never lost one, but more more often than not,
Speaker 3: he's gonna have his guys ready to play. I think
Speaker 3: they'll be ready to play on Saturday. But I'm just
Speaker 3: curious in your coverage of the team when it comes
Speaker 3: to Jeff's pres conference and whatnot, Like he hasn't come
Speaker 3: out and said it. In fact, he's been as boring
Speaker 3: as he has he ever has been, as far as
Speaker 3: just saying what he's supposed to say as they get
Speaker 3: set for this matchup. But I get the sense with
Speaker 3: the Catholic connection. Obviously he was recruited by Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: Brian was as well. He talked about that a little
Speaker 3: bit earlier this week. He'd never come out and say it,
Speaker 3: but I think he's really embraced. I mean, he's taken
Speaker 3: Louisville up there to South Bend to play the Irish
Speaker 3: and they've been there before, but not with him as
Speaker 3: the head coach. I think this is this game is
Speaker 3: probably the biggest game for him up to this point
Speaker 3: as far as just what's on the line.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, the funny thing about it is too
Speaker 6: is And I was actually getting ready to say this, yes,
Speaker 6: Jeff is no for the most part, you know, he
Speaker 6: won't give you any bulletin board material or he won't
Speaker 6: you know, like he tries to say pretty even keel,
Speaker 6: but this is one of those games this week. And
Speaker 6: he did it at the end of his press conference
Speaker 6: news conference on Monday, like he let you know that
Speaker 6: this was a big game for the program.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 6: To go up there and to have the opportunity to
Speaker 6: win this game. You know, so many coaches they don't,
Speaker 6: they don't come off of this and just say it's
Speaker 6: just the next game on our schedule. It's the biggest
Speaker 6: game because it's our our next game. That's that's what
Speaker 6: most say, you know, constantly, and by the way, like
Speaker 6: I get it. But he also like at the end,
Speaker 6: he was like, no, if we can go up there
Speaker 6: and get a win, this is huge for our program.
Speaker 5: This is a huge game for us. Like, I like
Speaker 5: the fact that he kind of lays it out there
Speaker 5: a little.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, it's because it's because he is somebody who's
Speaker 3: been here around here for so long. His grandfather played
Speaker 3: here obviously, you know, so he's somebody who came to
Speaker 3: Louisville before it was you know.
Speaker 2: Cool for guys to do it.
Speaker 3: So I think he it's just one of those one
Speaker 3: of those reminders that this is different. Jeff's one of
Speaker 3: those guys that he can give you something really know,
Speaker 3: whether coach came just because of his story and I
Speaker 3: know exactly what you're talking about. Most coaches would not
Speaker 3: say that, but for him it is kind of personal
Speaker 3: because part I mean, well, the football is part of him.
Speaker 6: Well, and you know we remember the game you know
Speaker 6: last year that were here. You know, there's there's a
Speaker 6: ton you know, the games are here between the old
Speaker 6: one Notre Name. There's a ton of Notre Dame fans.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because of this.
Speaker 6: This is you know, the Catholic here and everywhere and
Speaker 6: surrounded places.
Speaker 5: You know, it's that's.
Speaker 6: That's a Marquee brand. And if you could go and
Speaker 6: you can go beat a Marquee brand, it helps your brand.
Speaker 6: It raises you up, and you know it gets more
Speaker 6: eyeballs in you so are on you.
Speaker 1: So no.
Speaker 6: I think that the fact that he recognizes that and
Speaker 6: he'll and he'll convey that to his team throughout the
Speaker 6: course of this week. I can imagine that the pregame
Speaker 6: speech on Saturday afternoon is going to be pretty fiery
Speaker 6: because it does need something, it does beat a little
Speaker 6: bit more to it.
Speaker 3: Ken Spencer WJS eleven is our guest joining us here
Speaker 3: on Sports Talk seven ninety. Mark Stoups and his team
Speaker 3: heading down to Oxford to take on Lane Kiffin and
Speaker 3: Ole Miss. As they are number six in the country,
Speaker 3: certainly off to a great start, but they've not really
Speaker 3: been challenged yet. Before we get to Ole Miss specifically,
Speaker 3: I mean Kentucky, I think you can make the case
Speaker 3: they're a pretty tough team to figure out too, right.
Speaker 3: They look really good at a game that they didn't
Speaker 3: get to finish against a bad Southern Miss team. Then
Speaker 3: they get hammered by South Carolina, played Georgia really close,
Speaker 3: and then really just took care of business, played well
Speaker 3: against an inferior opponent. I mean, if I was a
Speaker 3: Kentucky fan, I wouldn't have a clue what to expect here.
Speaker 3: I think they'll be competitive because they are a much
Speaker 3: bigger test than what anything Ole Miss is seen up
Speaker 3: to this point. But just kind of your thoughts on
Speaker 3: this Kentucky team as they hope to avoid zero to three,
Speaker 3: but certainly a tall task winning down there at Ole Miss.
Speaker 6: No. I mean, look Oxford's you know they Layne Kiffin
Speaker 6: has made that a tough place to play, and you
Speaker 6: know that's a really good team.
Speaker 5: They play ultra fast.
Speaker 6: You know, Kentucky hasn't faced anybody so far this year
Speaker 6: in the stratosphere of how you know, Old Miss likes
Speaker 6: to play, and you know they've they've had a little
Speaker 6: bit of success at times. I mean it's not like,
Speaker 6: you know, Old this just puts up forty against them,
Speaker 6: I don't think, but you know, trying to slow them down,
Speaker 6: you know a touch and being competitive in these games.
Speaker 6: I think all their games with all this have been
Speaker 6: pretty close. But but Lane Kiffin, you know, went out
Speaker 6: the transfer portal and recruited.
Speaker 5: He's got a heck of a roster.
Speaker 6: And I just think that, like you know, when you
Speaker 6: look at Kentucky and these up tempo teams under March Stoops,
Speaker 6: specially the last couple of years. They've had a really
Speaker 6: hard time trying to slow these guys down. You know,
Speaker 6: And I because I look at ole Miss and I
Speaker 6: look at Tennessee, you know, the last couple of years
Speaker 6: for the with the balls and and those those super
Speaker 6: up tempo teams has given Stoops and and Brad White
Speaker 6: and and that team fits. So I guess I'm more
Speaker 6: anxious to see, you know, or or interested to see
Speaker 6: what Kentucky looks like offensively, because you know, against the
Speaker 6: inferior teams they've they've actually looked pretty good. And and
Speaker 6: and against uh Ohio this past week, I thought the
Speaker 6: passing game looked a lot better. The running game has
Speaker 6: been pretty consistent, But can you do it against the
Speaker 6: team for the SEC.
Speaker 5: This is kind of one of those those.
Speaker 3: Big yeah, I think to see that they've not scored
Speaker 3: a touchdown yet an SEC play against Georgia and against
Speaker 3: South Carolina, I'd say that those two defenses are certainly
Speaker 3: a factor in that. But knowing that you're going to
Speaker 3: have to score to keep up because of what Ole
Speaker 3: Miss is going to do offensively, not an ideal recipe
Speaker 3: for this. For this Kentucky team. But if in fact
Speaker 3: they you know, they they end up getting getting housed here,
Speaker 3: maybe they lose it by a few touchdowns. You know,
Speaker 3: wouldn't be a humongous shock. It wouldn't be about Kentucky
Speaker 3: falling apart nationally. It would be just a good look
Speaker 3: for Ole Miss because they look like they are positioned
Speaker 3: to potentially make the playoff. But you got to wonder,
Speaker 3: if Kentucky starts zero and three in the SEC, they
Speaker 3: still have to play Texas, which is the number one
Speaker 3: team in the country. Right now, they know there are
Speaker 3: games out there on their schedule moving forward that that
Speaker 3: they can win, and they should win. I mean, Auburn's
Speaker 3: a win, they should get, Florida's a win. They should
Speaker 3: get Bandy certainly, and they probably will. But I just
Speaker 3: I feel like this will be an unusual spot for Stoops,
Speaker 3: this this early in the year, to have this many
Speaker 3: losses piling up, and again, two of them will be
Speaker 3: against top six teams. But regardless of who it is,
Speaker 3: I think that kind of a start it can mess
Speaker 3: with your psyche as a team.
Speaker 6: Well, and and that that's the reason why the South
Speaker 6: Carolina game is always going to be the highlight of
Speaker 6: the season, the fact that they just lost, they lost
Speaker 6: the game, you know, and then the fact that the
Speaker 6: manner in which they lost the game, because that game
Speaker 6: right there puts them behind the eight ball, you know,
Speaker 6: when you're playing the Georgia's and the Old Myths and
Speaker 6: the Tennessee's and the Texas and now the locals of
Speaker 6: the world at the last game of the season, right like,
Speaker 6: you know, you don't have a ton of room prayer.
Speaker 6: So the games that you need to get, you need
Speaker 6: to go get them. And so that's why the South
Speaker 6: Carolina game, that's why, you know, like you're right if
Speaker 6: and it's just set. I think the spreads what seventeens
Speaker 6: in this game right now, So like you know, yeah,
Speaker 6: if you lose by a couple of touchdowns, they have
Speaker 6: to be they really really need to be competitive in
Speaker 6: this game.
Speaker 5: And see what that happens.
Speaker 6: You know it's in there because you know they they
Speaker 6: took Georgia to the wire, and so if you're competitive
Speaker 6: in this game, then then you can still get some
Speaker 6: positive momentum going. And then you have that stretch where
Speaker 6: you kind of need to clean house against you know, Vanderbilt,
Speaker 6: Florida and Auburn if you can, which is crazy to
Speaker 6: say you need to need a house against it and
Speaker 6: name Florida and Auburn. But that's where we are in
Speaker 6: the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: This this Hurricane Helene. Uh, she's impacted some local high
Speaker 3: school games here in the area where a lot of
Speaker 3: schools have decided to move it up to tonight. I
Speaker 3: could be wrong, and I'm not not trying to put
Speaker 3: you in a bad spot here on live radio, but
Speaker 3: that's got to be a pain in the ass for
Speaker 3: you guys, right.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, look, when you're in the news industry,
Speaker 6: you react to the news.
Speaker 2: That's true. What I mean, Well, I said, that's a
Speaker 2: that's a pro's answer right there, Kent.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, we just we.
Speaker 6: Just got to roll with the punches and you do
Speaker 6: the best job you can. I mean, yeah, we have
Speaker 6: a we have a bunch of games. Like but I
Speaker 6: can tell you now, like we're slated right now. We're
Speaker 6: gonna we're gonna get out there and get as many
Speaker 6: as we can tonight. I think we're going to try
Speaker 6: to get about six of them, you know, tonight, and
Speaker 6: then turn around and and make sure we got the ring.
Speaker 6: You're good to go and do it to get the
Speaker 6: bar night. So yeah, you just kind of plan accordingly,
Speaker 6: you know, honestly, we've got a great team here, and
Speaker 6: everybody's just kind of all right, hey, what do we need?
Speaker 5: All right, let's do it.
Speaker 3: So you couldn't have answered that any better. You could
Speaker 3: have answered any better.
Speaker 6: All Right.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna pile on because I don't know what
Speaker 3: we could say that would that would shift it in
Speaker 3: the different in a different direction. But like, what are
Speaker 3: we doing with the Bengals here?
Speaker 2: Like this is this.
Speaker 3: Is not an ideal start by any means? Can can
Speaker 3: this be salvaged? I mean, they've had slow starts before,
Speaker 3: and they actually should have beat two really good teams, well,
Speaker 3: they should have beat one really good team, the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: At least we think the Chiefs are good. I'm not
Speaker 3: sure who the hell is good in the NFL this year,
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, But where do the Bengals
Speaker 3: go from here?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 6: It's okay, So I'm I'm now I'm gonna talk. I'm
Speaker 6: not going to talk as immediate person. Now, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: talk as a fan.
Speaker 2: I like it laid out.
Speaker 5: It's over, It's over. It's over season.
Speaker 2: It's over.
Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, it's come on.
Speaker 5: When's the last time you've seen a.
Speaker 6: Team like rally from oh to three and go into
Speaker 6: the playoffs and and and make noise. It's the Washington
Speaker 6: Commanders didn't punt nick.
Speaker 2: That's so.
Speaker 6: I have a So I have a good friend of
Speaker 6: mine who I grew up with, who lives in San Diego,
Speaker 6: is a is a Navy judge out there, lives in
Speaker 6: San Diego, and we.
Speaker 5: Always texturing games.
Speaker 6: And so I was I was off work on on
Speaker 6: Monday night because I worked the game on Saturday, so
Speaker 6: I actually got to sit down and watch it and
Speaker 6: hang out a little bit, smoke some nice chicken wings,
Speaker 6: like we were. We were ready, right And I think
Speaker 6: about midway through the first quarter, I just texted, I said,
Speaker 6: no way, they're one of this game. None.
Speaker 5: I was already done. I already knew it was over.
Speaker 2: It's a weird game.
Speaker 3: No punts, I mean zero times and had no turnovers
Speaker 3: and still lost, Like that's just an odd recipe to
Speaker 3: not come out on the winning end.
Speaker 6: It was because because because here's the thing, and and
Speaker 6: they're a little beat up right now. But it uh
Speaker 6: in the front of their defense man. If you don't
Speaker 6: have a stout defensive line, you've got no chance in
Speaker 6: the NFL. And Sheldon Rankins was hurt last you know,
Speaker 6: last week. BJ Hill was hurt last week. Sam Hubbard
Speaker 6: hasn't been the same. Trey Hendrickson is a good pass rusher,
Speaker 6: but what's.
Speaker 5: He like on everything else?
Speaker 6: Like, if you don't have a good front in the NFL,
Speaker 6: you've got no chance.
Speaker 5: And that's what happened.
Speaker 6: Washington just pushed him around and and and.
Speaker 5: Literally I was I was watching.
Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels play, and I said, you know, he reminds
Speaker 6: me almost like the cross between Joe Montana and Randall
Speaker 6: Cunningham back there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a special man. I did not see
Speaker 2: that coming.
Speaker 6: Because he was just making like so easy play. But
Speaker 6: like all of his passes, it almost felt like you
Speaker 6: it was like death by a thousand cuts, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, Like it wasn't he wasn't getting you know,
Speaker 6: huge chunk of yardage and and all of that stuff.
Speaker 6: But he was getting first downs, and he was moving
Speaker 6: the sticks, and he was doing his thing with his
Speaker 6: legs and they couldn't keep him in the pocket. And
Speaker 6: then he went and made plays on the outside the pocket,
Speaker 6: and I was like, man, he's just kind of that.
Speaker 6: Their offense is just kind of touring with him and
Speaker 6: if and if Washington's gonna do that and it's gonna
Speaker 6: be tough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if this probably makes you not feel better,
Speaker 3: But right now, I mean, who can feel great about
Speaker 3: where they are?
Speaker 2: The Bills.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know there's some team like the Chiefs
Speaker 3: haven't lost yet, but they could easily have a couple
Speaker 3: of losses. And if you didn't know that they have
Speaker 3: a bunch of Super Bowls in the last decade, you
Speaker 3: wouldn't look at him and say that they're the best team.
Speaker 3: So again, I'm sure didn't make you feel better because
Speaker 3: your team struggling and you know, Monday wasn't great. But like,
Speaker 3: I think this is one of the most unusual first
Speaker 3: few weeks of the NFL I can remember, as far
Speaker 3: as just you know, not only not knowing who's good,
Speaker 3: but just some really really, I mean, this is something
Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier that I swear I wouldn't believe it
Speaker 3: if I didn't have somebody, if I didn't if I
Speaker 3: didn't see where it came from from a legitimate like
Speaker 3: a legitimate statistical website that covers this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: The favorites in week three can't the biggest favorites all
Speaker 3: of them not only didn't cover, they all lost outright. Bengals, Niners, Bucks, Browns,
Speaker 3: and Raiders were all six point favorites are higher and
Speaker 3: they all lost out right. I Mean, that's that that
Speaker 3: that's that's just weird.
Speaker 6: Well, and look, I don't feel great about a ton
Speaker 6: of teams in the AFC, just kind of just kind
Speaker 6: of looking at it, like if we're just if we're
Speaker 6: just kind of looking at the at the AFC, but
Speaker 6: you know, yeah, yeah, like the Chiefs have been in
Speaker 6: dog fights, but that's just kind of what they are.
Speaker 6: Like they you know, especially in the regular season, they've
Speaker 6: learned like when when when they can turn it on,
Speaker 6: and sometimes that happens in games with them, right, like like, yeah,
Speaker 6: we've kind of been sleepwalking.
Speaker 3: But now it's kind of And that's a good skill
Speaker 3: to have, is to be able to do that and
Speaker 3: still find a way to win.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Buffalo, I think has looked really good. I honestly
Speaker 6: think that that game this week Buffalo and the Ravens
Speaker 6: is going to be huge, probably bigger for Baltimore, to
Speaker 6: be honest with you, because it's it's at home.
Speaker 5: I think the Ravens have looked pretty good. They just
Speaker 5: they just lost a couple of.
Speaker 6: Games, one to it, you know, to a Raiders seat
Speaker 6: that they shouldn't have. And so yeah, there's there's not
Speaker 6: a lot of great teams out there, particularly in the
Speaker 6: in the AFC. I mean, the Steelers are undefeated and
Speaker 6: I just kind of feel like they're just kind of
Speaker 6: scraping by. Yeah, you know what, if you do and
Speaker 6: if you put enough on you gain some confidence.
Speaker 3: Yep, no doubt about it. Ken, I appreciate you making
Speaker 3: time for us here on a Thursday afternoon. Always enjoyed
Speaker 3: the conversation. Have a good evening, have a good weekend.
Speaker 3: We'll talk soon.
Speaker 6: Brother.
Speaker 5: Hey, brother, stay dry over the next few days.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try my best, but looks like it's gonna
Speaker 3: be tough with Helene on the way.
Speaker 2: Take care.
Speaker 3: That's Ken Spencer from w h AS eleven. Always appreciate
Speaker 3: him making time for us. He's uh, he's right. When
Speaker 3: it comes to the Ravens and the Bills, that's a
Speaker 3: huge game and uh, the Ravens need it, not only
Speaker 3: to go to two and two to get that bad
Speaker 3: taste out of their mouth from the oh and two start,
Speaker 3: but you know, I think they could sort of feel,
Speaker 3: they could feel pretty content knowing, hey, yeah, we got
Speaker 3: off to a tough start. Let one game just get
Speaker 3: away from us with the Ravens lost at Kansas City.
Speaker 3: But now we just not off the hottest team and
Speaker 3: we start fresh here at two and two. So easier
Speaker 3: said than done, because I think the Bills have looked
Speaker 3: clearly like the best team in the league right now.
Speaker 3: Quick break, We'll come back on the other side. Keep
Speaker 3: this thing rolling along. It's coffee and company fuel by
Speaker 3: Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety was this wash it
Speaker 3: all away because of the rain coming or just.
Speaker 4: And for the five finger death punch that's going to
Speaker 4: happen tonight. It louder than life.
Speaker 3: I was thinking, like, maybe you know they have a
Speaker 3: dual meeting that eighty song blaming on the rain, but
Speaker 3: that would not that would not.
Speaker 2: Vibe with the music festival that's going on. So yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Don't I don't want, I don't want the weather to
Speaker 3: be terrible the next two days.
Speaker 4: But I've had so much sunshine over the last month.
Speaker 4: It's like this is Mother Nature's revenge. As we've said
Speaker 4: before with different things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm already starting to think about, like, you know
Speaker 3: what we're gonna end up doing tomorrow with with with
Speaker 3: my daughter, because I you know, wouldn't be shocked if
Speaker 3: they do in TI, which I mean, why don't they
Speaker 3: just call it like a weather day, like like no
Speaker 3: on schools what you're saying, I would never claim to
Speaker 3: know what goes into making these decisions. And I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm just I mean, I'm just an idiot sharing an
Speaker 3: opinion that is uninformed when it comes to this kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. But NTI cannot be something that is beneficial
Speaker 3: for anybody involved. And I'm not talking parents, I'm talking
Speaker 3: kids now Again, If you just do it a day
Speaker 3: or two because of a storm or whatnot, like you
Speaker 3: know whatever, that's harmless. But I just think even using
Speaker 3: it as like something you can do is giving it
Speaker 3: more value than.
Speaker 2: It actually has, if that makes sense at all. So
Speaker 2: just my thoughts.
Speaker 3: But again, I'm sure they've they've got a lot of
Speaker 3: research and studies that have shown them that you know,
Speaker 3: in TI is worth doing if it's only a few
Speaker 3: days a year because of weather and whatnot. But anyways,
Speaker 3: I just i'm as we come back from break, I'm
Speaker 3: already I'm already stressed and thinking about you know, how
Speaker 3: we You know, it's.
Speaker 4: Not like it's my fault. I told you my wife's
Speaker 4: opinion before we came back from break.
Speaker 2: You did.
Speaker 3: But also I got a text from one of my
Speaker 3: buddies who says that he initially had said that he
Speaker 3: didn't think that it would be they would do it,
Speaker 3: and then now he's saying, yeah, it looks like they may.
Speaker 2: So we'll see fingers crossed. Nobody cares.
Speaker 3: But you know, speaking of nobody cares, although I will say,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm actually surprised how many of you care about
Speaker 3: my car situation. And maybe you just you know, think
Speaker 3: it's funny that I've been completely bent over by AutoZone
Speaker 3: and you know, they didn't even take me out to
Speaker 3: dinner first. They actually took my money, robbed me, broke
Speaker 3: my car, bit me over. In a week goes by,
Speaker 3: I'm complaining and they're just like, no, you're gonna take
Speaker 3: it because we're not doing anything. I mean, they haven't
Speaker 3: said that, but I did, get a voicemail during that
Speaker 3: last segment not for AutoZone from the dealership. My car
Speaker 3: will be ready to be picked up tomorrow at three thirty.
Speaker 3: Look at that, which I can't pick it up at
Speaker 3: three thirty, so hopefully I can make some accommodations.
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll let let my wife go get it or
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 4: But it was just swim to get it in the storm.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a whole other thing. Like maybe they're, hey,
Speaker 3: we're closing up the service department today because of this
Speaker 3: brain and wind, so you can come get your car,
Speaker 3: you know, in next week, unless you know, unless mother
Speaker 3: Nature helene herself, she just hits us with some wind
Speaker 3: that you know, puts that thing out of its misery.
Speaker 3: And by the way, I'll continue to defend my car
Speaker 3: because like, this wasn't my car's fault, This was an
Speaker 3: idiot's fault, and I do it. I don't like name calling,
Speaker 3: but like there's really no I mean, I don't even
Speaker 3: think the people who for three hours had my battery
Speaker 3: on backwards would take issue with me calling them an
Speaker 3: idiot for doing that. Like I think they probably agree
Speaker 3: that they're they're idiots. But anyways, so let me be clear.
Speaker 3: If ole Miss has a rowdy atmosphere tomorrow or Saturday,
Speaker 3: I should say when they take on Kentucky, and it's
Speaker 3: like a talking point, like wow, ole Miss came ready
Speaker 3: to play in front of their biggest crowd ever and
Speaker 3: they you know, they they broke a record for attendance.
Speaker 3: Not don't really how you do that? How can you
Speaker 3: break a record for attendance when you when you don't,
Speaker 3: That's what I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Either you sold out or you didn't like.
Speaker 4: I guess maybe they squeeze a few extra on the
Speaker 4: standing room sections or something.
Speaker 3: So they did set a stadium record last week when
Speaker 3: they played Georgia Southern, And now they've got Kentucky coming
Speaker 3: into town, and you know, their fan base online is very,
Speaker 3: very fired up at at Matt Jones because of his
Speaker 3: comments about and which are not controversial, Like it's not
Speaker 3: necessarily two things here. One, it's not really the overall point.
Speaker 3: It's just the things he said while making the point.
Speaker 3: I think triggered ole Miss fans honestly, because they probably
Speaker 3: know it's true, Like nobody would say that Old Miss
Speaker 3: pre the last couple of years has been like one
Speaker 3: of the top seven eight toughest places to play in
Speaker 3: the SEC. I mean, they don't have that big of
Speaker 3: a fan base compared like they're at a disadvantage in
Speaker 3: the SEC like andful of other schools because there's way
Speaker 3: more fans in Mississippi that are Mississippi State fans and
Speaker 3: old miss fans. They don't have a football tradition like
Speaker 3: a lot of the other schools in that league. Now,
Speaker 3: again there's other schools similar to them, but you know,
Speaker 3: they're number six in the country right now. They're looked
Speaker 3: at as a legitimate team that could win the SEC.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if they're going to be
Speaker 3: able to do it. Getting past Georgia and Texas is
Speaker 3: going to be a tall task. But you know, they're
Speaker 3: really good this year and they got a really good coach,
Speaker 3: which is why they now have like record breaking crowds
Speaker 3: like they just did last week.
Speaker 2: But I just think it's.
Speaker 3: I've learned this before. I mean, I'm sure Matt knows
Speaker 3: this too. He's been doing this a long time. He's
Speaker 3: a smart guy. But they posted that clip and it
Speaker 3: just it people. It's not taking things out of context.
Speaker 3: People choose their own context when it comes to a
Speaker 3: tweet a clip that only has you know, thirty to
Speaker 3: sixty seconds of comments. You know, people hear things the
Speaker 3: way they want to hear it, They interpret it the
Speaker 3: way they want to interpret it, and Ole Miss, like
Speaker 3: it or not, has been able to determine that they
Speaker 3: should be offended because of Matt saying that it's not
Speaker 3: one of the toughest places to play now. He mentioned
Speaker 3: they get there late, you know, and I actual, let
Speaker 3: me see see never mind, it's not worth playing because
Speaker 3: you got some people will you know.
Speaker 2: We'll we'll they'll combust it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the people will combust when people have combusted and
Speaker 3: just called it, called it a life and ended it,
Speaker 3: ended their whole life. When I play Matt Jones sound
Speaker 3: on the show, which I don't do very often, but
Speaker 3: I think I did it once and I remember, like geez,
Speaker 3: like you guys realize he's on the station right anyways,
Speaker 3: I could just see it though, like they're gonna be
Speaker 3: he needs to just turn like he needs to not
Speaker 3: check his mentions because I'm sure right now it's nothing
Speaker 3: but Ole Miss fans letting him know, Oh, we're gonna
Speaker 3: be there, We're gonna be loud, and you know, you're
Speaker 3: gonna see just how how crazy this atmosphere is. And
Speaker 3: I kind of thought, you know, hey, it's just Twitter,
Speaker 3: and Twitter's gonna do what Twitter is gonna do. Like
Speaker 3: it's not that big of a deal. But a beat
Speaker 3: writer who works for the Clarion Ledger, part of the
Speaker 3: USA Today network, he is now he's now posted an
Speaker 3: article on the newspaper website that you know, that's a
Speaker 3: pretty I mean, it's like the Courier Journal of Mississippi.
Speaker 3: Ole miss is not a hard place to play, according
Speaker 3: to Kentucky radio host Matt Jones, like it, you know,
Speaker 3: I'll tell I'll defend him on this. It's what I
Speaker 3: said just a moment ago. Like if you really just
Speaker 3: consider what was said, even describing sort of why he
Speaker 3: felt that way about their stadium, it's not not only
Speaker 3: is it not controversial, it's not even like it's not
Speaker 3: even he's not even talking crap, like it's you know,
Speaker 3: I think that's just I think it's just honest. But
Speaker 3: it's a challenge to them because they now know that
Speaker 3: the perception of their home crowd, even Kentucky doesn't respect
Speaker 3: us when it comes to showing up and making a
Speaker 3: rowdy environment. So and look, the biggest factor in why
Speaker 3: they can why they'll have a huge crowd there Saturday,
Speaker 3: just like they did last Saturday, is because they're a
Speaker 3: lot better than they like ever been. Like I don't
Speaker 3: know the history of ole Miss football, but this has
Speaker 3: got to be one of the best teams at least
Speaker 3: right now ranked number six in the country, that they've
Speaker 3: had in a long long time, and they probably deep
Speaker 3: down know that they won't have Lane kivin for a
Speaker 3: long long time. I'm surprised that there are college football
Speaker 3: talking heads out there that are informed, you know, clearly
Speaker 3: much more than I am as far as like sourcing
Speaker 3: and reporting on the sport. But why in the world
Speaker 3: would Lane Kiffin stay at Old Miss and not go
Speaker 3: to Florida? Like Florida clearly has not had success since,
Speaker 3: you know, consistent success since.
Speaker 2: They had Spurrier and urban Meyer.
Speaker 3: So some could say, well, hey, it was those two guys,
Speaker 3: not anything Florida can provide, But I don't buy that.
Speaker 2: Like what Lane.
Speaker 3: Kiffin's been able to do at Ole Miss when it
Speaker 3: comes to utilizing anil and you know, recruiting at a
Speaker 3: high level, He's a hell of a coach, and he's
Speaker 3: probably got some high school kids transfers that have decided
Speaker 3: to commit there that wouldn't if it wouldn't be for him,
Speaker 3: But it's just not as sustainable at a place like
Speaker 3: Old Miss. This is a once in a lifetime I
Speaker 3: shouldn't say lifetime because again I don't know the history
Speaker 3: of All Miss. But this is a once in a
Speaker 3: I don't every twenty year thing that where they have
Speaker 3: a team that realistically feels like they could be national
Speaker 3: champion contenders at Florida if you really just do the
Speaker 3: same thing, utilize the bigger fan base that will help
Speaker 3: you raise a ton of money when it comes to
Speaker 3: nil and you've got more to offer, more to sell
Speaker 3: recruits and transfers, and it's Florida, Like I just why
Speaker 3: would he stay? Like it doesn't make any sense, Like
Speaker 3: he could he could go from having a you know,
Speaker 3: once in a decade, maybe even once every five years.
Speaker 3: Let's say he stays at Old Miss. I still don't
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be an annual thing where he can
Speaker 3: go out and build.
Speaker 2: A roster like this. You can do it every year
Speaker 2: at Florida, if you.
Speaker 3: If you've if you know, if you've got the resources,
Speaker 3: and I think they litill have, Like nobody's failed at
Speaker 3: Florida recently because of lack of resources, So I h
Speaker 3: I continue to hear people claim, well, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I think he's stay there. I'm like, why, I mean,
Speaker 3: and it's not like I think, you know Florida's you know,
Speaker 3: it's not like I'm defending Florida.
Speaker 2: I just don't.
Speaker 3: I would love for somebody to tell me why it
Speaker 3: would make sense for him to stay at Old Miss Florida.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just because of what they did during my
Speaker 3: childhood with both Spurrier and and not Kiffin, but urban
Speaker 3: my like, it's one of the best jobs in the country.
Speaker 3: And I know people say this all the time. It
Speaker 3: got brought up when Louisville moved on from Patino and
Speaker 3: Mac it didn't work after a couple of years and
Speaker 3: then fell apart at the end, and then obviously Kenny
Speaker 3: Payne that like that makes the job not good.
Speaker 2: And I always go.
Speaker 3: Down a path here that with no return in sight,
Speaker 3: because it's really when you talk about what jobs are great,
Speaker 3: it really just depends on what you like, your preference,
Speaker 3: like what you really value as an individual it's all selective.
Speaker 3: So Louisville didn't lose resources because Mac didn't work out
Speaker 3: and Kenny Payne was a bum. Like So if you
Speaker 3: get a good coach, and that coach is able to
Speaker 3: utilize all the tools and they're good at their job,
Speaker 3: you can still win at a really high level.
Speaker 2: Therefore the job is a really good job, you know.
Speaker 3: I think that's that was Indiana's problem forever. I mean
Speaker 3: when they moved on from they got it wrong with
Speaker 3: Mike date Davis, and then with Creane it took a
Speaker 3: while and it never really broke through. And then they
Speaker 3: got it wrong with Archie Miller, and I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know if they got it wrong with Tom Crean,
Speaker 3: but it kind of run its course.
Speaker 4: You know, you had Kelvin Samson too, and that could
Speaker 4: be a whole different thing.
Speaker 3: Yes, So now you've got Mike Woodson and he's got
Speaker 3: to win this year. He's done so well with assembling
Speaker 3: his roster that he actually has made it to where
Speaker 3: he doesn't just need to win, he needs like he
Speaker 3: should be.
Speaker 2: They should be pretty damn good.
Speaker 3: If they're not, it'll give Indiana fans a chance to
Speaker 3: kind of look at you know, what are we doing here?
Speaker 3: But again, that'll be a sign to me that Indiana
Speaker 3: has always been a great job with great resources that
Speaker 3: any coach would love. It's just you haven't had the
Speaker 3: right guy that can utilize it. And sometimes it's about
Speaker 3: them just not being as good as you thought they were,
Speaker 3: or it's guys that really can't handle a big job
Speaker 3: like that, that they're not built to be that guy
Speaker 3: within that state, within that fan base, because you essentially
Speaker 3: have to be a politician. You're more probably more talked
Speaker 3: about than the governor of the state in Indiana when
Speaker 3: you're the basketball coach. All right, let's talk about Jefferson
Speaker 3: in the Hospital, shall we. You guys know they've got
Speaker 3: their big event coming up. Put it on your calendar
Speaker 3: if you haven't already, because I don't want you to
Speaker 3: forget and keep your pets in mind here because obviously
Speaker 3: you know that's what this is all about. They're doing
Speaker 3: an event coming up on October nineteenth. It's pints for
Speaker 3: paws and people at Jefferson Animal Hospital with the American
Speaker 3: Red Cross, or letting you know that your pets can
Speaker 3: donate blood just like you can if your pet or
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. If your dog is at least fifty pounds
Speaker 3: or your cat's at least ten pounds, they may qualify
Speaker 3: to be to be a pet blood donor, and every
Speaker 3: donation can save up to four to six lives. So
Speaker 3: they're going to be doing the blood work on site,
Speaker 3: like they'll demonstrate how this works. Therefore, you can be
Speaker 3: put at ease as far as you're worry and concern
Speaker 3: about your pets, because I would assume a lot of
Speaker 3: your pets probably haven't given blood before. But they'll show
Speaker 3: you how it's done, so you can feel, you can
Speaker 3: feel you know, you can feel good knowing your pet's
Speaker 3: gonna be okay. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: it's helping save pets lives. Don't you want Don't you
Speaker 3: want that? Who wouldn't want that? A sick sob would
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Speaker 3: have they're gonna have food, they're gonna have the American
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Speaker 3: but I do like Wandell Robinson over thirty three and
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Speaker 3: at two sixty and a half, although I don't love it.
Speaker 3: You know, the Cowboys are inconsistent and you know, usually
Speaker 3: not as good as they should be, but they've had
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