WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.000 Now one of your pudding. I got a string going 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:06.120 on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog. 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:08.960 My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree. 4 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:13.640 I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm 5 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:16.120 really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over 6 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:17.800 the fence and he was dead. And once you hit 7 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:19.679 the ground, like, I didn't see any cars. All I 8 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:38.320 saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what 9 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.960 are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling 10 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:51.759 around out here? Did you see what it was? Or 11 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:54.159 was it was? Standing enough? I'm out here looking through 12 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:55.920 the window now and I don't see anything. I don't 13 00:00:55.960 --> 00:01:03.880 want to go outside. Jesus quice you better Hello, hit 14 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:06.120 the boddy out here? What quent on out there? I 15 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:08.959 thought of a bitch about text foot nine. I don't know. 16 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:11.239 Easy ann out there? Yeah, I'm walking right. 17 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:13.879 Hey, like folks on, welcome our guest to the show. 18 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:16.799 It is Darren from Oregon. Welcome to the show, sir, 19 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:19.480 Thank you very much. I have been looking forward to 20 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:21.760 this conversation, so let's jump right into it. Let's talk 21 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:23.959 about this bigfoot thing. What in the world got you 22 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:25.000 interested in the subject? 23 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:28.560 To begin with, Originally, I'm a paranormal investigator. I do 24 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:32.920 ghost I've been doing ghosts for thirty years. It was 25 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:36.799 my brother who was the Bigfoot guy. So we went 26 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:38.840 up and we were looking at this old house and 27 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:43.000 we stumbled upon a family of squatch and had a 28 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:46.200 nice little five minute encounter them staring at us. I 29 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:48.680 was staring at them. It dropped in my lap, and 30 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:51.640 now it's a mic session that I need to know more. 31 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:54.840 You have been bitten by the Bigfoot bug. I think 32 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:57.319 Bigfoot bites us all in the ass at some point 33 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:00.760 in time. It happened for me very early on, when 34 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:02.599 I was like twelve years old. I really got into 35 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:04.599 the subject and I've been into it ever since. It 36 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:07.239 sounds like you went off the deep end and had 37 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:10.080 an experience pretty quickly. There's people I've talked to that 38 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:12.680 have been in this. Gosh, Peter Burn comes to mind. 39 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:14.520 I think it was the last person to interview Peter 40 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:16.800 before he passed away a couple of years ago, and 41 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:19.280 he'd been in the subject for sixty years and he 42 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:22.080 never got to have an experience with these things. I 43 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:23.960 think I've said on the podcast a couple of times. 44 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:25.719 I don't think he ever found a footprint. But I 45 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:28.520 did go back when I remastered that episode and he 46 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:31.159 did find his own footprint once. But that's about the 47 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:35.280 extent of his experiences. So it is very rare for 48 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:38.800 people to enter into this and have an experience that 49 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:41.520 early on. Let's jump right into it and talk about 50 00:02:41.520 --> 00:02:44.360 that first experience. Where were you guys, What were you 51 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:45.639 doing and tell us what happened to you. 52 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:51.719 Actually, we were doing bachelor party, me and all my guys. 53 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:55.879 We were going to go up to this old abandoned colony. 54 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:58.319 We did our basic ghost stuff and we talked to 55 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:00.680 some spirits and we got all the evidence. We kneed 56 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:02.919 it up on top of the hill and we were 57 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:05.240 trying to look for the cemetery because we were told 58 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:08.479 that they buried all their dead a little bit lower 59 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:12.520 down off the hillside. So as we're trying to find it, 60 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:15.759 we go to where we were told it was. So 61 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:17.840 we had talked to the historical Society and we're like, yeah, 62 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:19.360 we want to go to the the Brabyard and pay 63 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:22.159 our respects, and they're like, oh, here's the coordinates, here's 64 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:26.879 where you go. We went there and there's no cemetery. Okay, 65 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:29.759 this is odd. So we're standing up a little bit 66 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:32.159 of a hillside and there's a little meadow underneath us, 67 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:36.199 and one of my guys goes, there's something staring at us. 68 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:39.719 It's mine, one o'clock. It's over there, and we follow 69 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:43.599 his hand. We start looking and it's two adult females 70 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:47.439 and two juveniles. I think we all just stumbled upon 71 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:50.680 each other, and the squatch are confused. We're confused because 72 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:53.919 there's eight guys sitting up on the hillside and we're 73 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:57.439 locked eyes with these things. One of the females runs 74 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:02.199 across the meadow and hides behind a tree. We're ghost hunters. 75 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:05.960 We have thermal cameras, so on video we have this 76 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:10.599 giant heap plume standing behind a tree. We can see 77 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:13.639 that it's sitting behind this tree. We're staring at it. 78 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:17.920 And we got another female. She's crouched down behind us 79 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:20.319 log and she's staring at us, and we're all making 80 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:23.079 eye contact, and we're about eighty feet away, and the 81 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:27.319 two juveniles, two little ones, they're like trying to crawl 82 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.959 away into this little cave of system behind them. So 83 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:34.879 the two females, they're obviously trying to get our attention. 84 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:37.639 So we're not totally paying attention to what's going on 85 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:40.399 with kids. We're seeing eyeshine out of the cave from 86 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:43.319 the kids, and we're just like, this is a once 87 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:47.639 in lifetime, this is crazy. My brother, who is the 88 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:51.199 bigfoot guy, goes give a whoop like okay, so I 89 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:53.959 hoop and we get a whoop back. This is going 90 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:56.879 on for about five minutes where you fixated on what 91 00:04:56.959 --> 00:04:59.800 we're seeing, and then we get a whoop from behind 92 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:03.000 us and rocks thrown at us as we all turn 93 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:07.560 around because we've already violated so many rules of being 94 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:09.839 in the woods. Keep your head on a swivel, don't 95 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:12.639 be fixating on one area. We're in mountain lyon country. 96 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:16.639 We've got blackberries up here, and we're totally fixated on 97 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:19.800 one area. We're not paying attention behind us, and these 98 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:22.279 rocks start getting thrown us. We all whip around and 99 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:24.560 we're looking. We're not seeing anything, but these rocks are 100 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:28.720 getting bigger and they're getting bigger, and there's growls and 101 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:31.920 something is telling us it's time to move. One of 102 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:34.600 my guys is still staring at the Squatch family down 103 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:37.040 in the meadow and he's yeah, when we all turned away. 104 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:40.879 They quickly got out of there in a hurry. They 105 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:44.360 just seem to vanish. They're gone. The rest of us 106 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:47.399 guys are staring up the hillside, going, Okay, this ain't good. 107 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.800 This is bad. Something's gotten behind us. We need to 108 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:53.560 make some tracks. My brother at this point had already 109 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:56.439 made tracks. The one guy with a weapon has already 110 00:05:56.519 --> 00:05:59.120 left the party. We turn around because I'm like, no, 111 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:00.519 I'm going to look in the men. I want to 112 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:04.519 see these This is fascinating. They're gone, and we're like, okay, 113 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:06.519 let's double time it out of here, because now these 114 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:10.079 rocks are getting bigger, they're getting a little bit more precise. 115 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:13.480 They're not just landing around us anymore. Now they're getting 116 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:15.959 a little bit more precise. It's time to go. The 117 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:18.720 bouncer is telling us it's time to leave, so we 118 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:21.000 get out of there. We're all hyped out of our brains. 119 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:25.199 And now it's at that point we started shifting our 120 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:29.160 focus from Okay, we're going to go hunt Goss twenty 121 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:32.519 four to seven. Now it's grabbing every book we can read, 122 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:35.439 going to every squatch festival we can, talking to all 123 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:38.920 the people that am been doing at forever. Doctor Jeff Meldrum. 124 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:41.680 We talked to him for years at these festivals and 125 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:45.040 be like, hey, we're running into this and what could 126 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:49.000 this mean. We let a year go by and life 127 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:52.439 moved on, and then we got the crazy idea following April. 128 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:55.920 So this was in April twenty nineteen. The following April, 129 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:58.560 we're like, you know what, we should go back because 130 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:02.360 last time we had no we had no compasses, were 131 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:06.399 in a dead zone, we have no gear whatsoever. So 132 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:08.480 we go back to next year and we end up 133 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:13.160 finding the old cemetery finally, but right next to the 134 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:17.600 old cemetery is a nest because we have been talking 135 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:20.800 to the Olympic Project up in Washington about them finding 136 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:25.920 their nests, and then we come across one, but instead 137 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:29.519 of being built with huckleberries, it's built with ferns. We 138 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:31.959 continue going down the rabbit hole. Okay, why would it 139 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:33.879 be ferns? So we get home, we look it up. 140 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:39.480 What's medicinal young ferns are edible. We're also medicinal with childbirth. 141 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:42.600 So we're like, oh my god, we're finding nests. We 142 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:47.040 found a nest that time we did get growled out 143 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:49.079 and rocks were throwing us so it was the time 144 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:52.040 to leave. On the way out on that trip, we 145 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:55.240 ended up finding a few wood structures set up. We 146 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:58.279 gave it another year because this has been going on 147 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:02.319 for six years. So the next year, because we'd only 148 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:05.160 been doing one trip a year up there, the next 149 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:08.199 year we went up to a different location and that's 150 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:10.639 where we found just a string of prints through the 151 00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:13.519 swamp area. These were great prints, but we couldn't cast 152 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:15.560 him because it had just been raining and it's in 153 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:17.959 a swamp. So we did take a bunch of pictures 154 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:20.680 of it, and we found another nest. It's also on 155 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:24.000 an elk run, so there's this elk preserve up in 156 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:27.759 the area. The squatch had taken all these trees that 157 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:31.560 were not native to the swamp. This tree had been 158 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:34.720 brought from somewhere else and that they had laid it 159 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:39.120 down across the elk path next to this little nest 160 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:43.200 hide area. That was cool. We were on our way 161 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:47.080 out that trip and we could hear something splash it. 162 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:49.279 There's a little creek off to the left hand side 163 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:52.039 of this old trail and we could hear something splashing 164 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:54.480 around inside of it. Well, one of my guys got 165 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:56.159 down on the creek and he was actually trying to 166 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:59.039 chase it. He was, yeah, there's something down there. Something 167 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:02.360 has been trampling through the bushes and everything. This is fresh. 168 00:09:02.759 --> 00:09:06.080 We stop, we're not finding anything. We're talking about it, 169 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:09.000 and that's when we get hit with that smell. Because 170 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:12.879 everybody says that the squatch have this really bad smell 171 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:15.399 to them. Our theory is it's kind of like a 172 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:19.440 skunk because it came on sudden, it came on quick, 173 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:23.279 and then it dissipated. It got our attention that one. 174 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:26.279 We'd already turned off our cameras because we're getting ready 175 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.360 to leave for the day, so it's all right, turn 176 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:31.279 off the cameras. Batteries are probably a little bit dead anyway, 177 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:35.120 and I'm looking across the creek area and I see 178 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:38.279 these two twigs, these two trees come down a little 179 00:09:38.279 --> 00:09:40.720 bit and something's got a hold of them and it's 180 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:43.039 using it like a slingshot to get up over the bank. 181 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:46.799 So all I saw was the backside of it, and 182 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:49.279 it was up and gone, and we're like, okay, this 183 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:53.080 is crazy. But it was that smell of just I've 184 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:58.279 described it as a dead skunk being eaton, defecated out 185 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:03.960 baked in the sun, re eaten, redefecated, rebaked. It got 186 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:08.639 our attention of Okay, I'm over here. It's time to 187 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:12.000 leave your places. You're not supposed to be. We've just 188 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:18.480 had so many altercations with these things. I don't remember 189 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:19.919 the name of it right off the top of my head, 190 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:22.440 but doctor Meldrum had said that there the squatch have 191 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:26.919 one of several different hierarchy systems where the alpha male 192 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:29.759 or similar back as we call them, as a central 193 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:34.000 location and then his harem has an outer ring like 194 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:38.840 a big spoked wheel. We're thinking that we've been locating 195 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:41.440 one of the harems because it always seems to be 196 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:44.799 the same females we've run into. We're finding prints, we're 197 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:49.200 finding nests, we've been chased out by juvenile males. We 198 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:51.240 think that those are kind of like the ones letting 199 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:54.279 you know ahead of time, the watchdogs pretty much that 200 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:57.120 don't come over here, this is not where you should be. 201 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:00.960 We've dealt with that a few times. Three years ago 202 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:04.840 we went up we actually ended up finding a slaughter zone. 203 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:07.879 A bunch of elk were just ripped to shreds. A 204 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:09.840 lot of prints in that one. We actually ended up 205 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.039 casting what we could. When we were there, it was 206 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:16.320 further away from any of the nesting sites. We were 207 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:19.200 stocked again. We could see it looking at us through 208 00:11:19.240 --> 00:11:22.120 the bushes. One of my guys was like, yeah, it's 209 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:26.200 right there. It's staring at us. We were definitely stocked 210 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:29.200 and followed. It was wanted to make sure we weren't 211 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:32.399 going back to the nesting sites. No rocks were thrown 212 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:35.200 on that one, but it was breaking branches. It was 213 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:38.600 making us aware of its presence. I wouldn't say it 214 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:41.480 was nerve wracking or stressful, but it was like, okay, 215 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:44.080 it's letting us know. We believe it was a male. 216 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:46.720 We stopped at one point along the trail and we 217 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:49.360 were just gonna have a lunch, and you could hear 218 00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:53.759 these trees just start breaking left and right. Just snapped, Okay, 219 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:56.480 it's not windy. These trees aren't just falling down on 220 00:11:56.519 --> 00:12:00.679 their own. It's letting us know right up front, don't 221 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:04.200 come over here, it's time to leave. It's one of 222 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:07.759 those things you can set a clock to. These guys. 223 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:10.720 We believe that they're migrational, that they have a range 224 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:13.440 that they tend to go to. We know for a 225 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:17.320 fact in April May, where they're going to be on 226 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:20.480 this mountain side. We can track them down. You can 227 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:23.279 set your watch to it. I've thrown out the invite 228 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:27.080 to any other bigfooters. Hey, listen, come on out. We'll 229 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:29.240 take you out. We know where there are certain months 230 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:32.679 of the year they follow the elk. The elk come down, 231 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:35.000 they go back up. There's another valley they go to. 232 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:36.799 Like I said, you can set a watch to it. 233 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:41.480 We know when they're not in these locations. We went 234 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:44.759 up in April this year. We went to our same 235 00:12:44.840 --> 00:12:50.840 location where we've been having multiple encounters, footprints, vocalizations. We 236 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:54.000 took gilly suits. We're like, okay, we're going to sit 237 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:56.799 by the water source. We're going to get all camouflaged up. 238 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:00.720 It sits over a little bluff. There's little bluff above 239 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:04.240 the creek side. Everything needs water. We're just gonna spend 240 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:07.240 a day. We're gonna find spots, we're gonna sit down, 241 00:13:08.159 --> 00:13:10.879 and we're gonna let them come to us. We were 242 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:14.440 there about two hours. There was six of us when 243 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:16.720 we were spread out like every thirty feet down this 244 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:19.879 cliff line. We were all set up and laying in 245 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:24.120 the dirt, camouflaged up, just waiting to see what would happen. Well, 246 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:27.919 as we're sitting there, we hear this cooing. That's the 247 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:30.879 only way I can describe it, is cooing. And you 248 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:34.440 could hear something underneath the cliff side, and it's getting 249 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:37.320 louder and it's getting louder, and all my guys down 250 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:40.279 the rest of the line are hearing this. Because I'm 251 00:13:40.399 --> 00:13:42.159 towards the front of the line, I guess you would 252 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:45.120 call it. And it's just this cooing like if you've 253 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:48.279 got like a young child, that's the crying, the miserable, 254 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:52.679 talk real softly. Oh, it's gonna be okay. And that's 255 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:56.639 how we're describing it, this cooing is it's gonna be okay. 256 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:59.320 Because my legs are not camouflage. I'll be up front. 257 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:01.960 I just had the top half of me camouflage. My 258 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:04.840 feet are out there. The minute it gets right underneath 259 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:08.120 the cliff side and it's all my guys are hearing it, 260 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:11.440 and I'm like, this thing's right underneath me, and I'm like, 261 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:14.759 I don't want to move, but it's right underneath me. 262 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:19.840 It's right there. This thing is four feet away from 263 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:23.360 me below the cliff side. As it's getting louder and 264 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:26.559 it's cooing. I'm like, okay, this is way too close. 265 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:28.559 So I get up and I sprint out of there, 266 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:32.360 and all my guys sprint out of their locations. Everybody's 267 00:14:32.360 --> 00:14:34.840 asking the same question, what the hell was that. I'm like, okay, 268 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:37.919 you heard that too. I'm not insane, I'm not hearing things. 269 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.080 And they're like, no, we thought that was you. I 270 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:44.320 thought you were cooing to try to coax something. 271 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:44.440 Men. 272 00:14:44.559 --> 00:14:47.480 I'm like, no, dude, last two hours, I was sitting there, 273 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:52.159 braced against a tree, staring down this creek, waiting for 274 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:53.360 something to happen. 275 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:56.840 And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll 276 00:14:56.879 --> 00:14:58.759 be right back after these messages. 277 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:05.440 This thing's been going on for about fifteen twenty minutes 278 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:08.360 of getting closer and cooing, and the only thing we 279 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:12.320 can think about is it saw us come in and 280 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:16.039 we're in these big, old gilly suits. We're thinking that 281 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:19.799 it saw us sit down and not move for two hours, 282 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:22.679 and then it probably got curious. This is okay, what 283 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:25.159 are these things doing? They're just sitting there said okay, 284 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:28.080 I better go check. That's what we were thinking on 285 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:30.840 this one is it's got to be wondering what the 286 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:33.879 hell's going on with us. We all debriefed a little bit, 287 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:36.320 and then we went back into the location. But I 288 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:38.679 think when I got up and flew out of there, 289 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:42.639 because it's a big old gilly suit, it's ketchup twigs 290 00:15:42.679 --> 00:15:46.080 and branches. I'm crashing through because I didn't know you've 291 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:51.639 heard reports of bigfoot kidnapping people. It's below me. I 292 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:54.360 wanted to see it come up over that little cliff side, 293 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:56.519 but at the same time, I didn't want to see 294 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:58.759 it come up over the cliff side because it's way 295 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:03.320 too close. Yeah, it was just amazing. Now. I know 296 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:06.679 most people that have like multiple encounters with a squatch family, 297 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:08.960 they tend to give them names and try to associate 298 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:11.279 with them. We don't do that. What we're finding with 299 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:15.200 this family is they tolerate us because we're trying to 300 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:17.519 get out once a month, a couple times a month 301 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:20.840 if possible, everybody's schedules work out. They let us know 302 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:24.279 don't be here at this time they're get them too close. 303 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:27.840 They tolerate us. Don't come over to the nesting sites 304 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:31.279 and this time of year, don't come to the feeding grounds. 305 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:33.679 This is where we eat. Don't come over here during 306 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:36.759 this time. So when we went back up in July, 307 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:42.600 our normal area has a whole different cryptid in the 308 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:46.240 summer months, and then the bigfoot seem to go further 309 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:49.679 up the mountain backside the mountain. So after our little 310 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:52.320 run in with the other cryptid, we decided to go 311 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:55.600 further up the mountain because we're like, we're here for Bigfoot, 312 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:58.519 We're not here for this other guy. We went up. 313 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:01.960 We were returning to the original site that we had seen. 314 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:03.879 We're like, okay, why don't we go to where the 315 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:06.640 other place was and see what we can see. As 316 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:09.000 we're walking and I've got another guy with me, and 317 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:11.839 we are all harmed at this point because a lot 318 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:14.279 of the hunter's reports had said they had seen a 319 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:15.960 lot of bear, and they've seen a lot of cougar. 320 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:18.119 And I'm like, okay, we're not gonna shoot to kill, 321 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:22.160 but I like to have something loud just to scare 322 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:24.799 something away. At this point, I don't want to kill anything. 323 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:27.640 We come around a trail end, we see a cougar, 324 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:32.079 some shoot off to the side, be loud, be obnoxious. 325 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:35.720 Hey buddy, we don't want an altercation. We're up in 326 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:39.839 this area. My buddy actually drew his pistol. You've heard 327 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:43.000 something about fifteen feet off to his right hand side, 328 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:46.559 down a little ravine is close. We got that video 329 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:50.519 up on our YouTube channel and you could hear we're 330 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:54.119 being stalked. And we're no longer in the Female Saratuary. 331 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:57.799 We're now up in the Silverbacks territory. We're being hunted. 332 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:01.519 There's growls coming at us, there's rocks being thrown at us. 333 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:05.000 We're finding that the bigger males, even the silver Back, 334 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:08.759 they have a bit more of an attitude. So when 335 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:11.400 we go up into the silver Back's territory, we get 336 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:15.880 more growls. There's no cooing. We've had large trunks of 337 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:18.720 trees thrown at us or roll down the hillside. This 338 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.720 tree doesn't look like it comes from this area. It 339 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:24.000 looks like it's been broken off for a while. We 340 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:27.480 ended up getting chased that time. We had gone the 341 00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:29.759 way in and we were trying to find a location. 342 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:33.640 They had been doing some logging up there. Then logging 343 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:37.400 does not make the big guy happy at all, and 344 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:40.200 we got down to this location where the logging company 345 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:43.000 had just clear cut a whole area and they plowed 346 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:44.799 out a road. I'm like, oh my god, we've got 347 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:48.880 casting materials. This is a hot spot. Let's go down 348 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:52.240 this little road. It's fresh dirt and see what we 349 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:54.480 can find so we can cast some more prints because 350 00:18:54.519 --> 00:18:57.480 we need more prints or after evidence. They we start 351 00:18:57.559 --> 00:19:02.240 down the road and my guys, we've got shooter muffs, 352 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:06.640 ear muffs that amplify the sound. It's really being amplified 353 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:09.680 and we're really picking up these growls coming at us. 354 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:13.200 And I think we got about maybe ten feet down 355 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:15.640 this road and I'm like, you know what, I'm not 356 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:18.240 feeling happy no more. I don't feel like this is 357 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:21.640 a safe place. And my guys were like, yeah, I 358 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:23.200 think we need to get out of here in a 359 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:28.039 hurry because this thing is pissed off. It is angry 360 00:19:28.079 --> 00:19:31.839 at us. We should not be here. Let's just go 361 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:33.839 down a few more feet. I mean, we got al 362 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:36.400 those fresh dirt and there's got to be some and 363 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:38.920 then had a rock thrown at us. I'm like, okay, 364 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:41.640 never mind the tracks today, we're good to go. We 365 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:44.519 can leave. We were about two miles in and that 366 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:48.559 was a very quick two mile fast walk to get 367 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:51.680 out of there, because it followed us all the way back. 368 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:54.680 It followed us for a whole two miles in. Once 369 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:57.880 we got back to the truck, we're sitting there and 370 00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:01.960 we're like, okay, let' before we leave and discuss this 371 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:05.160 and let's get it on video. As we turned off 372 00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:09.400 the camera and we're grabbing lunch real quick and taking 373 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:12.559 all of our gear off and loading it up, we 374 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:16.359 heard some of that resembles the Sierra sounds and we're 375 00:20:16.440 --> 00:20:18.839 just like, oh my god. I'm like, you guys heard that, 376 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:20.960 And they're like, one of my guys goes, yeah, I 377 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:24.440 heard it. I'm like that that's just right over there. 378 00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:27.960 That's what the trailhead where we were just att And 379 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:30.559 I'm like, okay, do we grab out the cameras or something? 380 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:32.799 And they're like no, I think it's letting us know 381 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:36.640 it's time to leave. Now you guys need to go. Then, 382 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:39.359 of course we were stupid and stopped at the original area, 383 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:42.359 ran into the original cryptid that we were avoiding, then 384 00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:43.079 we got chased. 385 00:20:43.640 --> 00:20:46.680 That sounds like a fun time. I want to go 386 00:20:46.799 --> 00:20:50.160 back to the first siding and encounter that you had 387 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:52.759 with these things. Can you talk a little bit about 388 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:55.680 what you were seeing as far as a description of 389 00:20:55.720 --> 00:20:58.480 the two females and the two juveniles that you saw. Initially, 390 00:20:59.039 --> 00:20:59.559 I wouldn't. 391 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:03.680 I made about seven feet tall, real big in the shoulders. 392 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:06.599 What I could see through the binoculars was like a 393 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:10.400 gorilla style notes in a fun coal head, so it 394 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:15.480 had that again when Patterson's style looking head to it. 395 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:21.319 The children, the adolescents four feet tall, brown eyes, basically 396 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:24.119 was think Pattie and that's what we were seeing, but 397 00:21:24.240 --> 00:21:27.519 all black versions of Patty. It was definitely an eye 398 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:29.039 opener and a life changer. 399 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:32.519 I can only imagine because I just had my own 400 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:36.640 experiences with these things out in Washington State last summer. 401 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:39.640