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Speaker 7: The All right, what's up? Welcome everybody. It's that time,
Speaker 7: and I've got good news, amazing news. News that we
Speaker 7: are crossing our fingers remains good news. I think I
Speaker 7: have all the tech problems resolved. Can you believe it?
Speaker 5: Did Gronk help you?
Speaker 7: Gronk helped a little bit, and the other part was
Speaker 7: just a little bit of stick to itiveness, a little
Speaker 7: bit of, as the members say, gumption. I pulled myself
Speaker 7: up by my bootstraps, and I made myself hook all
Speaker 7: of this stuff up. So everything's new except for the
Speaker 7: mommy vice vibes or not new. But everything else in
Speaker 7: here is new. There's new Max, there's new things, new camera,
Speaker 7: next I'm going to fix the lighting because the lighting
Speaker 7: is still funky. Can y'all hear me? Are we good?
Speaker 7: We should be like full on fancy style. You know
Speaker 7: you can see my black heads, right yeah?
Speaker 5: Put some donuts for me in the chat if you
Speaker 5: can see and hear.
Speaker 7: God, put some donuts for Jamie. And the only difference
Speaker 7: is now we'll be looking over here to this side
Speaker 7: a little bit for clips and stuff. So when we
Speaker 7: talk about this wook man over here, he's a wook,
Speaker 7: but he's a good wook, This white Trustafarian man who
Speaker 7: told us the truth in twenty eighteen, guess what Jamie
Speaker 7: read his book. I keep calling him Jason Lanier, but
Speaker 7: he's Jirn. He named Jaron Lanier.
Speaker 5: If it's a white dude with dreadlocks, you know it's
Speaker 5: got to be some crunchy truths being dropped.
Speaker 7: Dude said, I was in eight K, We're in eight
Speaker 7: We are in eight K full definition overnight, y'all going
Speaker 7: to see my boogers tonight. We got what got what?
Speaker 5: Ten arguments for deleting your social media accounts right now?
Speaker 5: So we just did on my channel a show with Ruckus.
Speaker 7: What'd y'all talk about this.
Speaker 5: Book, and we talked about that show Adolescence, and then
Speaker 5: I had Courtney Turner on and we were talking about
Speaker 5: Game B and the Dark Enlightenment. So that's all the
Speaker 5: technocraft stuff.
Speaker 7: You're gonna tell me about Game B here in a minute, which.
Speaker 5: Is Game B for Beta mail Game Beta.
Speaker 7: That's good. Show everybody the book. So let's see the book.
Speaker 7: Did you already show it? Okay? The book is ten
Speaker 7: arguments for deleting your social media accounts. Now, don't everybody
Speaker 7: in my audience do this, because then I won't have
Speaker 7: no followers, we won't have no paypig.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 7: But the principles here are going to be correct, because
Speaker 7: it's how you control and manage your social media that's
Speaker 7: the real issue. And it's meant to be addictive, and
Speaker 7: that's what we're gonna talk about. And everybody knows some
Speaker 7: of the stuff. But it turns out Jason Lanier was
Speaker 7: saying stuff about AI and about the addictiveness way ahead
Speaker 7: of everybody else. And he was even saying that we're
Speaker 7: gonna be ruled by algorithms, we're gonna control by this,
Speaker 7: and it's all kind of a Silicon Valley tech cult facade,
Speaker 7: And so we're gonna get into the meat and the
Speaker 7: bones and the grit and the grits of it. And
Speaker 7: we're also gonna watch some clips from the recent Peter
Speaker 7: Thiel interview that has taken the Internet by storm. But
Speaker 7: I'm just so excited about this fancy internets that we
Speaker 7: got going.
Speaker 5: Everything you can't see is new, so it looks the
Speaker 5: same to y'all.
Speaker 7: I'm turning into a tech man. I'm turning into a
Speaker 7: story man. You see my funk gova. Do you want
Speaker 7: to fleetion Frogger with me?
Speaker 1: I got an.
Speaker 2: It's a It's an emulator on a computer.
Speaker 8: We can play Frogger.
Speaker 7: I'm turning into a soy man. You Jamie doesn't want
Speaker 7: to play. We have a pop of us husband and
Speaker 7: wife Funko Pop because.
Speaker 5: You got married to one.
Speaker 7: I got married to fun Well. We have a dedicated
Speaker 7: uh cool dude that literally had a funk pop mate.
Speaker 7: I've shown you guys this, But I mean, I'm just
Speaker 7: happy that we got all the Internet stuff is solved.
Speaker 7: No more whining from the audience, no more boomer jokes
Speaker 7: from the audience. You can't call me boomer anymore. You
Speaker 7: can't say anything bad because I put all the money,
Speaker 7: all the money everything, I'm just jugging, not really everything.
Speaker 7: I sold my soul just to have mac Os with
Speaker 7: the in for chip.
Speaker 5: Does that mean we're gonna get more smarter?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Can you imagine? Look at how smooth we're moving. We're
Speaker 7: not swimming in a sea of pixels. We're swimming in
Speaker 7: a sea of sixty frames per second. I think I
Speaker 7: think I have it on sixty.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: So the whole night with with Grock making all this
Speaker 7: nerd work, all this tech stuff, I hate it. I
Speaker 7: hate this nerd shit. Man, I'm sick of it. We
Speaker 7: got a super chat right away from Coolbert Kuta says,
Speaker 7: the worship of Yakub makes us all brothers of Catholics.
Speaker 7: That is part of attic in two. I like where
Speaker 7: this theology is developing. So I believe in development of theology,
Speaker 7: development of doctrine, and it's moving in the right direction.
Speaker 7: Constructions on five dollars, yaka Ono said the inscriptions on
Speaker 7: the Georgia guidestones were a string car tal ration. I
Speaker 7: thinking that was my impression of you. I don't know
Speaker 7: how she talks, but I'm assuming it's something like that,
Speaker 7: but a's Brossie five dollars. That old head Roman Catholic
Speaker 7: from the debate said that your neon flamingo was a
Speaker 7: little skittles. Meanwhile, he had like a giant like rainbow
Speaker 7: banner behind him. This is Miami vice dude. I don't
Speaker 7: care what they like. They're the ones that are legit gay.
Speaker 7: This is who thinks, uh, Sonny Kroc is gay? Dude, No,
Speaker 7: he's straight up legit. That's the vibe. They're absolutely boomer
Speaker 7: That sign is your most redeeming quality. Well, I mean
Speaker 7: it's this Mimmi vice dude, Like, who has a problem
Speaker 7: with that? By the way, that's like a Boomer era
Speaker 7: show Boomer Jenac show Mason ten dollars. This is completely
Speaker 7: unrelated to the video. But CPS is trying to take
Speaker 7: my daughter. Oh oh, I wish there's any way that
Speaker 7: I could receive help from the community. It would be
Speaker 7: greatly appreciated. Well, I don't know what that could do
Speaker 7: or what we could do. Man, we don't know you,
Speaker 7: but we'll definitely pray for it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pray for that. That's a terrible that's the worst
Speaker 5: nightmare scenario.
Speaker 7: I feel like it's a real like like I'm in
Speaker 7: some kind of an almost real studio with this fake
Speaker 7: ass plant and with this and with you and then
Speaker 7: the mic in the middle. It feels like, I don't know,
Speaker 7: like I'm on a you know, Conan O'Brien nighttime show set.
Speaker 5: When we upgrade, I was thinking we could make it like.
Speaker 7: This is the up us, this is the upgrade.
Speaker 5: We upgrade again again. Yeah, and we like get a
Speaker 5: proper studio background. Well, I like our homemade aesthetic. I
Speaker 5: even made you a homemade chart.
Speaker 7: We've got a chart to help out, help understand what
Speaker 7: is the problem. Uh, you're gonna help us with the chart.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Do you want to do a Peter Thiel clip first
Speaker 7: or do you want to do the chart or what?
Speaker 7: This is your information? So I'm gonna chime in with
Speaker 7: my information.
Speaker 5: Are you more interested in game be uh Dark Enlightenment
Speaker 5: or drown or Peter Thiel?
Speaker 7: Why don't we start with something that I don't know about? Uh,
Speaker 7: that is Game B. So tell us about Game B.
Speaker 7: We're gonna learn some stuff.
Speaker 5: So that is Courtney's expertise. So I had her on
Speaker 5: my show and the show is called Game B in
Speaker 5: the Dark Enlightenment. So Basically it was.
Speaker 7: Do you got some game B?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: And what's not? Byes? We still have a friend or
Speaker 7: high school and his whole thing. He always said, hey,
Speaker 7: what's not be watch not B? So that makes me
Speaker 7: think of like Adam from high school, Dude, what's that
Speaker 7: b B?
Speaker 5: So this is all about building network states and linked
Speaker 5: up with projects Stargate and the idea of freedom cities
Speaker 5: or corporate city states that are like run like a company.
Speaker 7: So you mean like giant city states Megalopolis, Yes, AI
Speaker 7: Tech Megalopolis is the megacity dystopian things in the future. Basically,
Speaker 7: Judge dread the.
Speaker 5: Movie right, and in order to make these come about,
Speaker 5: there's gonna have to be social unrest, there's gonna have
Speaker 5: to cataclysms, there's gonna be a great reset and the
Speaker 5: people to watch doing this. Game B one is named
Speaker 5: Jordan Hall, who actually converted to Christianity not long ago.
Speaker 7: So do we think he's a real convert?
Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing. It's like they're kind of using
Speaker 5: structures that are already in place.
Speaker 7: So they might want to take over the institutions. Yes,
Speaker 7: so they institutional capture.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they call that the what do they call it?
Speaker 5: Not the palace, the cathedral. Yes, the cathedral.
Speaker 7: There you go, so well, I agree with this analogy though.
Speaker 7: The cathedral is a perfect analogy for the modern nonsense
Speaker 7: in society.
Speaker 5: So they start speaking in like Christianese or like new
Speaker 5: age Christian or christ consciousness, and that's where you get
Speaker 5: the new people that convert their kind of sus. I
Speaker 5: don't want to name names, but we can all think
Speaker 5: of one, right, two. And what they want to do
Speaker 5: is destroy the constitution and replace it with a president
Speaker 5: that is like a.
Speaker 7: CEO or king, so a tech Nietzschean uber minh philosopher
Speaker 7: king bro. Yeah, because democracy is bad. So democracies have
Speaker 7: failed experience, right, and I agree. But here's the thing is,
Speaker 7: like they they want to take the thing that's a problem,
Speaker 7: a legitimate problem, and then give their solution, which is
Speaker 7: just technocracy.
Speaker 5: And so this goes back to Plato's utopia, and the
Speaker 5: technocrats and the programmers are going to be the new
Speaker 5: priests class of the AI that we have to go
Speaker 5: through to get to know the protected deity of AI.
Speaker 7: It's a deus ex machina, a god from within the system.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so they've been kind of trying to chip
Speaker 5: away in the last maybe like fifteen years at certain
Speaker 5: things like amendments and Bill of Rights and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: Like Peter Till wrote about taking the vote away from
Speaker 5: women like maybe ten years ago or more in an
Speaker 5: article called the Education of Libertarian Education of a Libertarian Right.
Speaker 7: And their argument is that because women are the major
Speaker 7: support base of the Democratic Party in the left, that
Speaker 7: if there could be some future removal of the vote
Speaker 7: from women, I don't know how you would even ever
Speaker 7: achieve this apart from society collapsing. So it could tie
Speaker 7: into accelerationism. I'm not saying that Peter Thiel and Curtis
Speaker 7: Jarvin or these people are necessarily accelerationists. I'm not exactly
Speaker 7: sure what their positions are, but it could lead to
Speaker 7: that if you came to the conclusion that the only
Speaker 7: way to reset society is to have some cataclysm that
Speaker 7: leads to the reset.
Speaker 5: No, it's not based. It's just trying to knock down
Speaker 5: all the pieces so they can set it up the
Speaker 5: way they went Again.
Speaker 7: It's not the reason. Even if they say something based
Speaker 7: like equalitarian equalitarianism is bad or democracy is bad, their
Speaker 7: solution is that it's going to be a giant ai
Speaker 7: carbon tax control system. That's the problem.
Speaker 5: So and these people, let's just talk about this for
Speaker 5: a second. Their idea are not really grounded in reality.
Speaker 5: So these are people who've been living in like fantasy.
Speaker 5: Lord of the Rings, that's where Palenteer comes from is
Speaker 5: the all seeing eye, and Lord of the Rings is
Speaker 5: like the palaeer stone.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: Well, not that fantasy is bad, but we don't live there,
Speaker 5: we don't spend too much time in the life.
Speaker 7: Well, it's a misappropriation of the myths of Western civilization
Speaker 7: to turn it into something Nietzschean. So rather than it
Speaker 7: being that, you know, the idea of being connected to
Speaker 7: the virtues, this is removing the themes and the archetypes
Speaker 7: of Western civilization and making it not about virtue versus
Speaker 7: vice and the good and what is the good. It's
Speaker 7: rather taking those archetypes and memes and patterns and making
Speaker 7: them about the ubermensch and the philosopher king or the
Speaker 7: tech oligarch. So you become the hero of your own
Speaker 7: fans to see as the you know, reigning oligarch. That's
Speaker 7: the problem with it. It's a misappropriation of those familiar
Speaker 7: patterns and archetypes. But the leftists do the same thing
Speaker 7: with archetypes and patterns and stories, which is what we're
Speaker 7: presently living through. For example, they rewrite the stories and
Speaker 7: appropriate them to leftist myths of egalitarianism, and all of
Speaker 7: the old movies have to be redone with having women
Speaker 7: as the hero and the archetype, and the warrior that's
Speaker 7: not the warrior. So I mean, the woman is not
Speaker 7: the warrior archetype. She is the feminine archetypes. She's the
Speaker 7: one that's the princess that the hero saves. And they
Speaker 7: want to reverse that in the leftist mythos, to create
Speaker 7: a new mythology to convert everybody to the leftist cathedral paradigm.
Speaker 7: The problem is that these people are doing the same thing,
Speaker 7: but they're taking those archetypes and patterns, they're applying it
Speaker 7: to themselves as essentially the first player characters in their
Speaker 7: own fantasy.
Speaker 5: World, and they believe in metaphysical things. They believe in
Speaker 5: magic and stuff. Let's talk about the Cybernetic Culture Research
Speaker 5: Unit for a second, because connected to Peter Teele is
Speaker 5: also Curtis Jarvin and a guy named Nick Land.
Speaker 7: So yeah, well, and our buddies at Senna have interviewed
Speaker 7: Nick Land.
Speaker 5: So he is from this thing called the Cybernetic Culture
Speaker 5: Research Unit, which was like if mss Calendar from Buffy
Speaker 5: the Vampire Slayers started a club.
Speaker 7: But they don't know these references.
Speaker 5: So technopaganism basically. So she was a feminist who thought,
Speaker 5: how can we use this new theme call the Internet
Speaker 5: to help equality? And they just were using all kinds
Speaker 5: of Yeah.
Speaker 7: The early phase of like nineties era punks, cipher punks,
Speaker 7: anarcho capitalists, cyber pagans. They had this very equalitarian fantasy.
Speaker 7: I think you even see this a little bit with
Speaker 7: like Steve Jobs Andsniak from Apple, Like they believed that
Speaker 7: when the personal computer came out, it would be this
Speaker 7: great liberating thing that would essentially destroy all the existing institutions.
Speaker 7: And probably to a degree it's kind of true, but
Speaker 7: it's not going to do that for making everybody equal
Speaker 7: and making everything fair. It's potentially the technocracy. If you
Speaker 7: remember that old Apple ad from when the PC first
Speaker 7: comes out, the matt first came out, it's nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 7: Do you remember the ad and.
Speaker 5: Did something costs six hundred and sixty six dollars?
Speaker 7: Yeah, the first the first magnet, but it was supposed
Speaker 7: to be this thing, hence the symbol of the bitten
Speaker 7: apple right the Garden of Eden, So it's supposed to
Speaker 7: be this liberating.
Speaker 5: Thing, which in the biography of Steve Jobs they said
Speaker 5: that the bitten apple came from snow white, so it's poisonous.
Speaker 7: Interesting. Yeah, and also it might have a reference. I'm
Speaker 7: not sure, but it might. I've just heard this. I
Speaker 7: haven't looked into Steve Jobs that much, but might have
Speaker 7: a reference to LSD too, because he was a pioneer
Speaker 7: microdoser and a lot of the Silicon Valley people microdose
Speaker 7: because they think, you know, it's kind of given them
Speaker 7: inspiration and creativity and ideas, et cetera.
Speaker 5: Well, that goes along with this. It's the CCRU Cybernetic
Speaker 5: Culture Research Unit, So it's like where we get the
Speaker 5: ideas of like cyberpunk and gothic horror, critical theory, esotericism,
Speaker 5: numerology and demonology a all mixed up in technology. And
Speaker 5: this is the c are you yes? The group that
Speaker 5: Nick Land was a part of it was a.
Speaker 1: Bad moon Ragian.
Speaker 7: Literally from the tech Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, well you just made me think of Hideline because
Speaker 5: the moon is a harsh mistress and that's all about
Speaker 5: like breakaway civilizations on the moon anyways. Uh so they
Speaker 5: were for the experimental technoscience of self fulfilling prophecies, where
Speaker 5: the means whereby the means of esoteric cybernetic principles, certain
Speaker 5: ideas and beliefs that are initially income comprehensible can covertly
Speaker 5: circulate back through reality. So like how Donald Trump got
Speaker 5: elected the first time with the memoirs and and Kech
Speaker 5: and Pepe and stuff like that. So this is the
Speaker 5: kind of stuff they'd be studying, like how these butterfly effects.
Speaker 7: Would well some of these Yeah, and that makes sense
Speaker 7: because some of these companies come out of in q Tel,
Speaker 7: which was a CIA cutout for funding venture capital firms.
Speaker 7: And that's what creates Pallunteer, That's what creates I want
Speaker 7: to say, even like Facebook and ns Facebook and Twitter
Speaker 7: even come out of this as well as sort of
Speaker 7: experiments of deep state and CIA venture capitals or venture
Speaker 7: capital firms. And so that's why you would get this
Speaker 7: direct connection between the GCHQ, which is the British version
Speaker 7: of the NSA. They were studying meme magic literally in
Speaker 7: the twenty and twenty tens. I'm not saying that that's
Speaker 7: the GCHQ got Trump elected. I'm not saying that they didn't.
Speaker 7: They didn't want Trump at all. But the idea that
Speaker 7: you can study the patterns of putting memes out and
Speaker 7: then affect the mass consciousness, which is connected to like union,
Speaker 7: archetypes and all that kind of stuff is absolutely studied
Speaker 7: by these tech nerds at a very serious high level and.
Speaker 5: ISAA wisehep did a good like five or six part
Speaker 5: breakdown of dark Enlightenment and he also had Courtney on
Speaker 5: and they were talking about how this also ties into
Speaker 5: super dark stuff like dark web and the stuff that
Speaker 5: b X talks about.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the Satanic groups. Yes, Now wait a minute, so
Speaker 7: what was the CC one more time? What was that?
Speaker 7: And didn't you said they had something to do with
Speaker 7: feminists too, like radical feminists?
Speaker 5: But well no, the one of the founders, the lady
Speaker 5: I think her name is Sadie something, and so.
Speaker 7: She was Sexy Sadie yep.
Speaker 5: From the Beatles, and she was trying to do research
Speaker 5: on how the open software and stuff of the Internet
Speaker 5: because back then when they were developing these things, it
Speaker 5: was kind of like a revolution to them that they
Speaker 5: thought all of this stuff was gonna be free, right,
Speaker 5: information is.
Speaker 7: Free now freewhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's going to free us up. And we're gonna
Speaker 5: have so much time and technology and now that we
Speaker 5: can share information, like we're just going to go leaps
Speaker 5: and bounce in civilization. And so she was studying like
Speaker 5: how can this help equality between the sexes at the
Speaker 5: same time, but then it kind of got taken over
Speaker 5: by these other people and went down a very like
Speaker 5: esoteric path, like I think even Nick Land talks about
Speaker 5: Kabala and so their technologicians will.
Speaker 7: Have to go listen to Yeah, the Centement interviews with
Speaker 7: Nick Land, because I don't I relisted to it at
Speaker 7: the time, but it was about two years ago, and
Speaker 7: I don't remember what they talked about, but I know
Speaker 7: they talked about like obviously psyops in film, but in
Speaker 7: pop culture. But we'll have to listen to that.
Speaker 5: So all these people do not believe that freedom and
Speaker 5: democracy are compatible anymore, and that I would agree with
Speaker 5: that basically.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean even Plato and Socrates argued that democracies
Speaker 7: become tyrannies.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because a true democracy is still.
Speaker 7: Susceptible to corruption and Well, the reason that it becomes
Speaker 7: a tyranny, according to them, is that whoever's in power
Speaker 7: wants to appeal to the largest number, and to do
Speaker 7: that you have to have the lowest calm denominator. So
Speaker 7: it becomes a race to the bottom to be the
Speaker 7: controlling oligarch ask glob of people who are ruled by
Speaker 7: their passions and not by their reasoning, or by their
Speaker 7: self control, or by Christianity or virtues. So it becomes
Speaker 7: beneficial to the oligarch to promote base things, to debase
Speaker 7: the population so that he has a broader control of
Speaker 7: the mass. That's the inevitable course of equalitarianism and democracy,
Speaker 7: according to Plato Socrates, and I think that's true.
Speaker 5: We just picked up that old book about subliminal messaging,
Speaker 5: and so they're taking all these techniques like Freud Brene's
Speaker 5: propaganda subliminal messages.
Speaker 7: That's your audience, I know what I'm trying to think of.
Speaker 7: You could look to me for permission to see if
Speaker 7: what you're saying is correct. That's that's cool. That's why
Speaker 7: you're not a feminist. You're you're bouncing the eye is
Speaker 7: off of your lovely man.
Speaker 5: Well, it's easier to talk to a person than Michige.
Speaker 7: Those are all the people. Look they're real, look at them.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 5: But it's just like a little contraption.
Speaker 7: We're talking to How nine thousand, it's a little a
Speaker 7: little red eye in there. Dreamy dreamy number one? How
Speaker 7: starts going slow? These batteries a wear?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, where are we at? So we talk
Speaker 7: about tm B. We talked about the technofagan does tell
Speaker 7: me about dark enlightenment?
Speaker 1: That is.
Speaker 5: I mean, what is happening. It's the talking about being
Speaker 5: a corporation instead of a country run by the CEO king,
Speaker 5: lot of surveillance, obviously, a lot of robots, a lot
Speaker 5: of robotoids.
Speaker 7: So who pioneers this idea about the robots, no, the
Speaker 7: dark enlightenment? Who came up with this term? Who says this?
Speaker 7: This is Nick Land? And then the idea of that
Speaker 7: is what not just technocracy, but what specifically.
Speaker 1: Just the.
Speaker 5: Bringing the new revolution of technology? And so they're talking
Speaker 5: about life extension and that's what we're going to talk
Speaker 5: about when we pull up the Peter Teal clips. So
Speaker 5: they're replacing religion.
Speaker 7: Is the dark enlightenment that democracy has done? And we
Speaker 7: need a tech uber manage.
Speaker 5: Yes, well, people can't govern themselves. So it's like every
Speaker 5: form of government has failed throughout history and including this one.
Speaker 7: So we need a new computer thing.
Speaker 5: Yes, so it has to be something above humans.
Speaker 7: I want my mac to run my life, right, and
Speaker 7: man kind of needs to be run by a mac.
Speaker 5: We're not smart enough to do it.
Speaker 7: It's a return of the mac. But not Mark Morrison.
Speaker 7: It's the return of the mac os.
Speaker 5: Right, yes, come on, oh yeah. But it also resembles
Speaker 5: a lot of things that Alshra Crole would talk about
Speaker 5: in his Utoken Society. So he got liber Oz that
Speaker 5: talks about the very stratified civilization where you have your
Speaker 5: technocrat magicians and then you have your servants who don't understand.
Speaker 5: And that's where he talks about the slaves shall serve
Speaker 5: in liber Oz.
Speaker 7: I remember that that's important because Crowley had a very
Speaker 7: similar ideology to a lot of these tech oligarchs, and
Speaker 7: I think that's why many of them have found also
Speaker 7: some degree of overlap and fascination with Croley. I can't
Speaker 7: think of any that are explicitly Crollian. But one thing
Speaker 7: that you started looking into, which I talked about a
Speaker 7: year ago, I did a podcast some of this about
Speaker 7: a year ago or maybe two. Is the guy Peter
Speaker 7: Carroll who's actually if Crowley is the grandfather of Satanism
Speaker 7: modern Satanism, Peter Carroll is actually the father of modern
Speaker 7: Satanism because he's the father of cyber magic and chaos magic.
Speaker 7: So a lot of people that are in the tech
Speaker 7: sphere are also influenced by Peter Carroll Andy tech magic.
Speaker 7: And if you remember, it came out some years ago.
Speaker 7: Not being able to find this article, but I think
Speaker 7: it was Wired maybe ten years ago. There was an
Speaker 7: article talking about how at burning Man, when the Silicon
Speaker 7: Valley elite come, they have their own private burning Man
Speaker 7: that is a quote secret society that engages in rituals
Speaker 7: whereby they think that through ayahuasca, peot LSD, they're tapping
Speaker 7: into the forces that are going to help them erect
Speaker 7: the technocracy. There was a huge Wired ride up. Some
Speaker 7: former friends of ours put it in one of their documentaries,
Speaker 7: so I remember reading it.
Speaker 5: Someone said, what about Anton Levey and yeah, that plays
Speaker 5: into this too, because he thought that androids were going
Speaker 5: to be the next car.
Speaker 7: Basically, yea sex bots is like the new car.
Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone's gonna have robot companions.
Speaker 7: He was you talking about a model t I'm talking
Speaker 7: about a model TNA. Baby.
Speaker 5: That's really good.
Speaker 7: I'm pretty good with Wordsmithery. By the way, did you
Speaker 7: watch the new sam Hi Boomers?
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Well, Peter Till doesn't like boomers either, So hey,
Speaker 5: I'm starting to like Peter Till.
Speaker 7: Now we can just we can both be skittles men
Speaker 7: on his floating tech island. I'm joking. Go ahead, well.
Speaker 5: So yeah, Silicon Valley is.
Speaker 7: Really big on Silicon Uncanny Valley. Right, that's a podcast
Speaker 7: title for you right there.
Speaker 5: They are big on social Darwinism, yes, and uh, mysticism,
Speaker 5: like you would think it's just nerds in math, but
Speaker 5: it's not.
Speaker 7: It's no, it's did you hear what I was saying
Speaker 7: about the Burning Man thing? When two minutes ago Burning
Speaker 7: Man the cult? Don't you remember when Aaron and Melissa
Speaker 7: had a whole thing in the in their documentary about
Speaker 7: the guy. The Silicon Valley elite that go to Burning
Speaker 7: Man have their own private, secret society where they do
Speaker 7: ayahuasca and tap into the gods.
Speaker 5: Well, and that makes sense because it's like Wickerman. It's
Speaker 5: kind of.
Speaker 7: Wickerman it's a it's a an American corporate, pseudo fake
Speaker 7: counterculture version of Wickerman.
Speaker 5: And these guys, well, they're also very interested in the
Speaker 5: life extension. And then he was looking into companies that
Speaker 5: could do blood transfusions.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I remember when Peter till was talking about
Speaker 7: getting youth blood put into you. I remember that, and
Speaker 7: it was the same time that it came out the
Speaker 7: Kim Kardashian was getting vampire facial vampire facials. And when
Speaker 7: I was on with Elijah, we were talking about Peter
Speaker 7: Teel and I read the section in his book zero
Speaker 7: to one where he talks about Pallenteer basically just creating
Speaker 7: all the tracking identification software for the CIA and the NSA.
Speaker 7: And we wouldn't have had been Lauden taken down if
Speaker 7: we'd not had Vallaunteer finding bin Laden. That's what's in
Speaker 7: the book. But also there's a section where he talks
Speaker 7: about cryogenics.
Speaker 5: And this is going to uh.
Speaker 7: Is that where you're going to the cryogenics part.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the life extension when he talks about Christianity and
Speaker 5: stuff and transhumanism. But I just wanted to mention that
Speaker 5: this is going to be tied into currencies too, and
Speaker 5: like different maybe cryptocurrencies or like a centralized cryptois.
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is all connected to the idea of having
Speaker 7: a CBDC, which is not Bitcoin, by the way, but
Speaker 7: a central bank digital currency which is in some way
Speaker 7: tracked and traced. It's connected to UBI. So the idea
Speaker 7: is that the technocracy will actually free you from even
Speaker 7: having to work. So there's this Marxist socialist element that's
Speaker 7: part of it utopian ideas. And then when you're free
Speaker 7: from work, you can supposedly just you know, live in
Speaker 7: your coompod and your goon pod and you know, have
Speaker 7: sex with bronies all day long or whatever, dragons, whatever
Speaker 7: does you do when you don't have anything to do,
Speaker 7: And that's what's being offered. But if you remember the
Speaker 7: Bill Joy essay that we've lectured through, which is one
Speaker 7: of the key elite texts why the future doesn't need us,
Speaker 7: Bill Joy was saying that when they were having these
Speaker 7: big deepop tech meetings, they were saying back in two
Speaker 7: thousand that we've already made the decision to get rid
Speaker 7: of the people. In other words, we're not going to
Speaker 7: create some sort of com pod utopian fantasy we're just
Speaker 7: gonna get rid of you. Yeah, that's the purpose of
Speaker 7: that famous essay alex Is talking about it for twenty years.
Speaker 5: You'll just be recycled into the mother Earth again.
Speaker 7: I'm imagining like convincing people to get in their goon
Speaker 7: pod where they think they're going to like live in
Speaker 7: the sex matrix forever, and you get in there and
Speaker 7: it's just this machine that turns you into like sludge
Speaker 7: that then powers the AI. Yeah, the goof you turn
Speaker 7: into black goo that that powers the AI. So it's
Speaker 7: not like the matrix where you're like you're a battery.
Speaker 7: Now you just get turned to sludge and then you're like.
Speaker 5: Filtered into like the that lubricates.
Speaker 7: You're the blood. You're the black AI blood of the
Speaker 7: borg Hive mind system. They'll be good blood.
Speaker 5: Well, oh, I was just gonna say so. Peter till
Speaker 5: Uh and Elon Musk created PayPal with the idea in
Speaker 5: mind that someday they were going to have a currency
Speaker 5: that replaced the dollar.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, there was gonna be an E dollar. And
Speaker 7: there's a white paper from MIT that's about the E dollar.
Speaker 7: And what's super annoying about this is that everybody who
Speaker 7: wants to debunk bitcoin. They point to this thinking that
Speaker 7: that's bitcoin. Bitcoin is the opposite of an E dollar.
Speaker 7: Dollars are not attached to anything. They are fiat, they're
Speaker 7: not a hard asset. So the E cash E dollar,
Speaker 7: I guess conceivably could have been attached to gold if
Speaker 7: they had decided to make an E dollar that was
Speaker 7: attached to gold. But there's never going to be a
Speaker 7: gold standard. That's not gonna happen. So the only way
Speaker 7: to solve the economic problem that's at least feasible is
Speaker 7: what bitcoin is now. That is the answer to the dollar.
Speaker 7: It is not the fiat E dollar CBDC system. CBDC
Speaker 7: competes with bitcoin. Those are competitors.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's always been their dream to have a
Speaker 5: website that was a social network that all your data
Speaker 5: was on and that you also did your banking.
Speaker 7: And that's why, that's why in q tel. According to
Speaker 7: Melissa Mela in her CIA book that we've talked about,
Speaker 7: I've cited it for ten years, she's the woman that
Speaker 7: was the handler to Angelina Joe Lee when she was
Speaker 7: training for her CIA studies for the movie Salt. Right
Speaker 7: around the time that she becomes a member of the CFR.
Speaker 7: She's studying under Melissa Mela, who wrote in her book
Speaker 7: that in q Tel was a CIA front company to
Speaker 7: do pallunteer Facebook, And this was all stuff that Corbett
Speaker 7: talked about even ten years ago.
Speaker 5: Have you seen the orbs?
Speaker 7: Let's not bring Sam Chaman into this.
Speaker 5: It's like the orbs that not Shimun's orbs. What was that.
Speaker 7: Movie the orbs? What you're talking about? You talking about?
Speaker 7: You're talking about Lord of the Rings with no hold on.
Speaker 7: Don't be looking inside them orbs?
Speaker 5: What's that movie?
Speaker 7: Crazy?
Speaker 5: The Mustard Blood and the orbs that flare around and
Speaker 5: kill you.
Speaker 7: Yes, Mustard Blood. I knew immediately she was talking about
Speaker 7: Phantasm boy, Cleer boy. Phantasm is great.
Speaker 5: You can't find the orbs?
Speaker 7: Well, I was gonna pull up, Oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Sam Altman's World orbs your.
Speaker 7: Oh okay, yeah, I know you're talking about.
Speaker 5: Okay, Sam Altman's World Orbs come to the US. Yes,
Speaker 5: now I don't. He's the one I know least about.
Speaker 5: Do you know anything about him?
Speaker 7: Well, he's like Elon's nemesis because they started to open
Speaker 7: Aye and Elon supposedly says keep it open and then
Speaker 7: sam Altman made it a billion, multi billion dollar company.
Speaker 5: Oh, I think it's so funny how Trump is like, boy,
Speaker 5: there's the phantasm orb and now look up sam Altman's orbs.
Speaker 5: I think it's so funny how Trump is like triangulating
Speaker 5: all these technocrats to get uh them to fight over
Speaker 5: his attention? Who President Trump?
Speaker 7: What is this things supposed to be?
Speaker 5: I don't know, an I it's man made horrors beyond
Speaker 5: our company.
Speaker 7: What is it? Is it like? Is it like Alexa
Speaker 7: or something?
Speaker 5: I don't know what.
Speaker 7: I looked into sam Altman's ORB and all I got
Speaker 7: was lousy crypto. Oh this is connected to his orb
Speaker 7: coin that was supposed to be like the global coin
Speaker 7: that I think. I think this failed. I don't I
Speaker 7: don't remember much about this, but yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah do.
Speaker 7: Why don't you ask the ais? They would be the
Speaker 7: ones that know, aren't they the aren't they the a?
Speaker 7: The Let's ask grog.
Speaker 5: And see did you know Peter Tile.
Speaker 7: Was hold on? Let's ask before you what is what
Speaker 7: does sam Altman's ORB do.
Speaker 10: Sam Altman's ORB, created by his startup Tools for Humanity,
Speaker 10: scans your iris to verify your human not a bot.
Speaker 10: It generates a unique digital code called a world I
Speaker 10: D which acts like a global passport for your humanity.
Speaker 10: Pretty wild, right, It's all about proving you're not a
Speaker 10: bot in.
Speaker 7: This digital Oh, if you're not a bot right now,
Speaker 7: I can't do it. You can't. No, not without the orb,
Speaker 7: not without the Orb of destiny.
Speaker 1: Have.
Speaker 7: I don't know whether i'd rather have some Sam Altman's
Speaker 7: ORB or the orbs and phantasm that like jack into
Speaker 7: your brain? Which one you want? They're both pretty, both
Speaker 7: of them, and they're both a nightmare. Dude.
Speaker 5: I don't want Sam Chumun's orbs. I don't want phantasm orbs,
Speaker 5: and I don't want.
Speaker 7: Basically, just stay the hell away from orbs. There's nothing
Speaker 7: really good in the ORBS sphere. There's nothing we really
Speaker 7: want to be involved in all seeing. I have read
Speaker 7: cyber not says for five dollars that he cannot handle
Speaker 7: my chest here. I understand it's okay, uh Anti Orbuel
Speaker 7: Jordan Lofgan, What kind of butter you got on that camera?
Speaker 7: I ain't never seen nothing so smooth before. It's called
Speaker 7: ten eighty p sixty fps with a a macOS fast
Speaker 7: fancy computer. It's a fancy motherboard a cyber not ten dollars.
Speaker 7: Did you see the movie Thank You for Not Smoking?
Speaker 7: Thank You for Smoking?
Speaker 5: A long time?
Speaker 7: It was executive produced by Elon and Peter Till. I
Speaker 7: didn't know that. I remember hearing about that, but I've
Speaker 7: not watched it. It's about the tobacco lobby in two
Speaker 7: thousand and five. Interesting, so as soon as they got rich,
Speaker 7: they were like, let's make some movies, Jo say el
Speaker 7: on ten dollars. The excitement of logging in is seeing
Speaker 7: that there is a stream of Jay and Jamie that's great,
Speaker 7: and that's not full of glitches and latency and skipped
Speaker 7: frames and frozen screens. Can you believe that we achieved this?
Speaker 7: It only took five years to figure out how to
Speaker 7: get a fancy ass Mac to make this actually run.
Speaker 7: It only took five years. Actually, it probably took more
Speaker 7: because no, you know, I don't think when I was
Speaker 7: from twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen, when I was streaming
Speaker 7: in seven twenty, I don't think I ever had these problems.
Speaker 7: But as soon as I tried to stream in ten eighty,
Speaker 7: it was just five years of problems. But thanks to
Speaker 7: you guys, we have upgrade we.
Speaker 11: Got an upgrade up in here, Pop Pop is popping
Speaker 11: off his upgraded Jewish skeptic five dollars. Step into the water,
Speaker 11: wait a little bit deeper, wete.
Speaker 7: Your feet in the water of his love for Baptist ms.
Speaker 7: Even ever you converted from Easter in Orthodoxy Judaism, is
Speaker 7: that you or who for Orthodoxy to Judaism. Seeing Baptist
Speaker 7: hymns about converting from Orthodoxy to Judaism, that's pretty wild.
Speaker 7: It kind of makes sense though, because I met one time,
Speaker 7: one time a Baptist dude called in who was no
Speaker 7: he was becoming Jewish and it was former Baptist. That
Speaker 7: was pretty weld. H Brozy five dollars. He's demand that
Speaker 7: you acknowledge him.
Speaker 5: Hello, h Browsey, five dollars.
Speaker 7: Austin he acknowledged Austin Henley five bucks. All right, Stop
Speaker 7: being cute, all right, stop be cute and listen. Ice
Speaker 7: is back with a brand new avention something a hold
Speaker 7: of me tightly. It was like a harp daily and nightly.
Speaker 7: Will it ever stop? I don't know. Yes, I have
Speaker 7: vanilla Ice tape. That's not true. That's that must be
Speaker 7: a new viewer because we do half of over half
Speaker 7: of the live streams over here are just nonsense and silly.
Speaker 7: And I'd rather be doing that than all this idiot
Speaker 7: anti christ Roman callit nonsense. These people are crazy. What
Speaker 7: are we just? Vanilla Ice? I had this first, this tape, dude,
Speaker 7: this was I thought this was so awesome when I
Speaker 7: got this tape, the actual Yeah, no, that's not it,
Speaker 7: that's not that, not the best of I want the original.
Speaker 7: Actually it popped up right here. This to the extreme,
Speaker 7: to the extreme, man. I remember when I got this thing.
Speaker 7: I was like, yes, this is so cool, dude, look
Speaker 7: at that tape.
Speaker 5: Do you think Vanilla Ice?
Speaker 7: We were just talking about it, Jamie and I were
Speaker 7: talking about today. Can you believe that Vanilla Ice ended
Speaker 7: up being like the most Chad and Bays of the
Speaker 7: nineties rappers? All the other rappers ended up being faking gay,
Speaker 7: and then Vanilla Ice ended up being like fifty million
Speaker 7: dollars with a bunch of cars in Miami. And everybody
Speaker 7: was making fun of Vanilla Ice too. After his one
Speaker 7: hit Wonder in his album, everybody was making fun of
Speaker 7: all the new Ice. He sucks white white, and then
Speaker 7: he ends up being the one that's actually straight and wealthy,
Speaker 7: and all the other ones like lost all their money
Speaker 7: their gay, except for maybe doctor Dray. He might not be.
Speaker 7: He's a little weird, but I don't think he's gay.
Speaker 7: Do you?
Speaker 5: Is he married?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I don't think so.
Speaker 7: Our rap fans in the audience can let us know
Speaker 7: what the latest info is on. But know Ice now
Speaker 7: he's living it up in Miami with He's got nineteen ninety.
Speaker 5: His movie was funny, too cool.
Speaker 7: I mean it's so bad. It's a good riff tracks. Yeah,
Speaker 7: it's like terrible. Remember his Oh yeah, I forgot. He
Speaker 7: had a reality show. Remember that. No, yeah, he had
Speaker 7: a really show. Yeah, he was like redoing houses, flipping houses,
Speaker 7: that's what he did. That's right. Like I think his
Speaker 7: car is alone or worse most like millions and millions
Speaker 7: of dollars anyway, But Ice is at least as far
Speaker 7: as we know, straight and them, he's just ends up.
Speaker 7: He ended up being better than like all the other
Speaker 7: so called bad bad boy gangster rappers who were all
Speaker 7: like faking gray dude.
Speaker 5: Anyway, someone says Dre equals Rainbow Flags.
Speaker 7: Doctor doctor Gay. Hold on, I'll typing to the wrong
Speaker 7: I'm getting mixed up here. I gotta type into this
Speaker 7: fancy computer. I'm so used to typing into that old
Speaker 7: ass crap computer slowly whiteboards. Here is doctor, doctor Gray,
Speaker 7: doctor Gay. Sug Knight says, doctor, he's doctor Gay. I
Speaker 7: don't know, man, I don't know if I can believe
Speaker 7: sug Knight though, because he tried to throw an ice
Speaker 7: off of a balcony. Dude, I don't believe him.
Speaker 5: Well, was tupac skittles or well?
Speaker 7: Hold up? Talk about vindication. If sug Knight was gonna
Speaker 7: throw vanilla ice off of a off of a balcony,
Speaker 7: hasn't vanilla ice come out on top of all of
Speaker 7: this stuff? He's he's beating everybody. This is crazy, all right,
Speaker 7: what's up? What did you say? I don't know, Jordan loughgrin,
Speaker 7: Someone get me out. Five dollars, Give me out of
Speaker 7: this contraption. What contraption? Oh? It meaning that he's in
Speaker 7: this little machine.
Speaker 5: See them. He wants to be real, he says, can
Speaker 5: anyone see me? Let me out of here. I want
Speaker 5: to be real.
Speaker 7: He's inside that little black Machineum, there is anyone there?
Speaker 7: Ohst of five dollars, I've never seen Jay looking so happy? Well, hey,
Speaker 7: after five years of never being able to figure out
Speaker 7: how to solve the computer problems and spending all night
Speaker 7: last night hooking all this crap up, literally like until
Speaker 7: two three in the morning. Yeah, I'm happy, Mike three
Speaker 7: horrifying two dollars. Do you mean doctor dre or I
Speaker 7: think it was about the word he means, I'm making jokes.
Speaker 7: He's talking about Jason Jaron Lannier's his dreads are horrifying.
Speaker 7: Ryan Beamish five dollars talk about Ashton Forbes in the
Speaker 7: MG three seventy conspiracy in the orbs. I'm not gonna
Speaker 7: talk about that because I think it's dumb. I just
Speaker 7: think there's no warp technology where their orbs are creating portals.
Speaker 7: That's all. I think that's all fake. But I appreciate
Speaker 7: your question. Prophetic ten dollars. Do you think the future
Speaker 7: of America will be crackers only? Or do you think
Speaker 7: that other citizens have a place in this I can't
Speaker 7: say that country without having to worry about second class citizens.
Speaker 7: I don't really see any way out of fixing this country, honestly,
Speaker 7: so I don't know how to even even answer that.
Speaker 5: I don't think America ever even could be a white
Speaker 5: only country because it was already Okay, I don't think
Speaker 5: it ever could be just because we're who's here already,
Speaker 5: we're cooked.
Speaker 7: So figure out how to get your big coin and
Speaker 7: be ready to go out in the country. That's all.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 5: It still could be a good nation, even a multi ethnic.
Speaker 7: Well it's always been multi ethnic, so that's not the problem.
Speaker 7: But when you import like massive amounts of people from
Speaker 7: the Third World, that's the problem. No, but we probably
Speaker 7: shouldn't talk about this stuff should be I mean, just
Speaker 7: think about the YouTube guidelines of what you can and
Speaker 7: can't say.
Speaker 5: I would just say, like there's a difference between somewhere
Speaker 5: like Ireland and some are like America, Like, yes, Ireland,
Speaker 5: I think it could be a mostly one ethno state.
Speaker 7: Ireland. Yeah yeah, I mean like Japan, right.
Speaker 5: Or even Britain or somewhere like that.
Speaker 7: But well they're all cooked, so it doesn't matter anymore.
Speaker 7: H BROSSI fi dollars. This due prophetic is either an
Speaker 7: Indian LARPing as black or fed posting h one. Watch
Speaker 7: Jaddy Jones watch my episode two of Sam High that
Speaker 7: I wrote on It's not my you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: The episode of sam Hi Show episode two, because that's
Speaker 7: about h one b Visas and all that. No, no,
Speaker 7: I'm sorry episode one. No, both of them are because
Speaker 7: episode one is dear Elin, episode two is dear Vivac
Speaker 7: about that stuff Jewish captic. Oops, I meant converted from
Speaker 7: Judas in the Orthodoxy. God bless you, Jane James. Step
Speaker 7: into the water, wait out a little bit deeper, join
Speaker 7: the angels singing praises to the Lamb of God. Boom
Speaker 7: boom boom. Thankfully I never heard that one growing up.
Speaker 7: I remember, yeah, I always heard that one. But this
Speaker 7: is the one I'm thinking of the Gaithers.
Speaker 5: I remember them.
Speaker 7: Oh man, this is the worst. I can't stand this stuff.
Speaker 7: Here's the cathedrals. This is some boomer Grandma Shore right here, listen,
Speaker 7: listen's right here.
Speaker 12: Ready, Well, what do you say about this next young man?
Speaker 12: Nobody has ever come along and got some music like him.
Speaker 7: Ain't nobody ever sung?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Absolutely, He's an institution within himself. Uh, would you welcome
Speaker 12: mister kirk Telly.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, it's him. It's kirk Telly. It's really him.
Speaker 7: It's Kirk Kelly, Charlie, Kirk Telly, Charlie Kirk a little niche. Well,
Speaker 7: here you go.
Speaker 3: I was three of the seven in the water. I
Speaker 3: wrote that song after hearing God a preacher.
Speaker 7: You think Kirk Cameron over here is straight.
Speaker 3: Hoskins just used that phrase in a sermon that he
Speaker 3: preached at a revival that the cathedral sang in nor
Speaker 3: North Carolina.
Speaker 7: And with the anticipation is just killing me. Get into it.
Speaker 3: Kirk sitting back in the choir and behind phild we
Speaker 3: had sung and he was speaking, and he's said, it's
Speaker 3: time we as Christians need to step into the water.
Speaker 3: And I don't know why that struck a bear with me,
Speaker 3: but I just knew there was a course there, and
Speaker 3: so I took out a pen and paper and wrote
Speaker 3: the chorus.
Speaker 1: Just.
Speaker 7: Here we go. That's what I'm talking about, stepping into
Speaker 7: the water. Wait, I had a little bit deeper.
Speaker 5: Riders always have the best bases.
Speaker 1: They have.
Speaker 7: All the Oakridge boys had the same. Da can go
Speaker 7: ideo my mile male idio.
Speaker 8: Hell up my hearts on fire, hell lye Rup.
Speaker 1: Does the thing.
Speaker 5: They go crazy like when he goes oh yeah.
Speaker 7: All the when the Oakridge voice singing, the women go
Speaker 7: crazy at the guy with the bases. You know what,
Speaker 7: there's something to this because, uh, remember when we were
Speaker 7: watching all of the women reacting to their righteous brothers,
Speaker 7: and then when they start singing certain notes or when
Speaker 7: certain deep voices come on, the women go, there's something
Speaker 7: about a bass voice that vibes with y'all, females. What
Speaker 7: do you think?
Speaker 5: Okay, play the song.
Speaker 7: I'm afraid if I play too much of this though,
Speaker 7: it's it's gonna be we're gonna get copy Dante into
Speaker 7: the water. Wait, eye a little bit deeper. Yeah, that's
Speaker 7: that's the Baptist Church right there, dude, Ace BROSI. You
Speaker 7: know we did the quantum yakub five dollars of all
Speaker 7: the Roman Catholics. Who do you see potentially converting? First?
Speaker 7: I don't know, man, I mean, who's left that isn't crazy?
Speaker 5: That's the thing. If they have a channel and they're
Speaker 5: well known, they won't convert because it's all.
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, you gotta get up, you gotta get over.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like, uh.
Speaker 7: Troy throw dogs five dollars. If it's true that it
Speaker 7: was a clear and black knight, a clear white moon,
Speaker 7: Warren G's on the streets trying to consume it was
Speaker 7: a clear black Night, clear white Moon. Warren G's on
Speaker 7: the street. You know that one? No warreng G And
Speaker 7: just hit the east side of the LBC on the
Speaker 7: missing of Farms to warn G. You know Nate Dogg.
Speaker 7: She knows Nate dog She's heard me play Nate dog music.
Speaker 7: Andy remember Nate Dogg. Yeah, and has like three or
Speaker 7: four good songs. There's music in me. There's a weed
Speaker 7: song and then there's uh the one with Warren G. Anyway, Myron,
Speaker 7: Chuck ten pounds, where are we at? Thank you for
Speaker 7: putting THHX three one one three eight back on the radar.
Speaker 7: Do you have any thoughts about Lucas and Henderson being
Speaker 7: on the same track at least in the seventies and eighties. Uh,
Speaker 7: forgive me, Myron, who Who's Henderson? I don't remember? So
Speaker 7: I did just do a long chapter on THHX one
Speaker 7: with three eight four Starclay with three, But I apologize,
Speaker 7: I don't know about Henderson. Off the top of my head.
Speaker 7: I think it's there's a lot of those seventies movies
Speaker 7: like Borston that did Logan's Run. A lot of those
Speaker 7: seventies dystopian movies were all kind of on the same
Speaker 7: in the same thread Mike three five dollars lmao, Yes,
Speaker 7: the Orbs, but also doctor Dread's Charlie Kirk smile five dollars.
Speaker 7: Did you see Trent flag? Yeah? I shared the weird
Speaker 7: Skittles banner on Twitter and on YouTube every day. I'm
Speaker 7: struggling twenty dollars, Part one, Jay, I heard somebody say
Speaker 7: that uncontacted tribes in the Amazon who haven't heard the
Speaker 7: Gospel can have a relationship with God since he condescends
Speaker 7: to our nature, he said. Paul said this, Well, whatever
Speaker 7: relationship or connection they have, it doesn't appear that through
Speaker 7: the knowledge that they have that's natural, that it's enough,
Speaker 7: because anybody who is going to be quote save requires
Speaker 7: supernatural grace. So I would say the only way that
Speaker 7: they would get out of this is if God in
Speaker 7: some special way preaches the Gospel to them or shows
Speaker 7: them the person of Christ. And that can happen. Christ
Speaker 7: can come to people in a vision, He can appear anywhere,
Speaker 7: even if humans fail to preach the gospel right. So,
Speaker 7: for example, in the Book of Revelation, we hear of
Speaker 7: an angel flying through the heavens preaching the gospel. So
Speaker 7: even if it fails in terms of human exertion to
Speaker 7: go and reach every tribe or something like that, or
Speaker 7: there's unreached peoples. Conceivably that could still occur through God himself.
Speaker 7: For example, we hear of Muslims. I don't know how
Speaker 7: true this is, but you hear these stories all the
Speaker 7: time that Muslims have dreams and the real Christ comes
Speaker 7: and speaks to them. They realize that the fake Jesus
Speaker 7: in the Koran isn't the real Jesus. Every day I'm
Speaker 7: sruggling one hundred dollars. My question is, how do we
Speaker 7: draw the line between the sentiment of Vatican Two's Roman
Speaker 7: Catholic ecumenical positions. Don't we run into a danger in
Speaker 7: terms of the incarnation. It's the arbitrary of a tribe,
Speaker 7: it's capable communicy and God without the Gospel. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying, Like, you can't connect. So the
Speaker 7: presence of the Spirit, according to Saint Maximus in one
Speaker 7: of the ad thalassiums is that yes, the Spirit is
Speaker 7: everywhere present, but not in the same way or the
Speaker 7: same mode. So the presence of the Holy Spirit and
Speaker 7: the sacraments of the Orthodox Church are unique, just like
Speaker 7: there's no eucharists out there in the jungle. So whatever
Speaker 7: means and ways by which God reaches those people, it
Speaker 7: still has to be some revelation of the person of Christ,
Speaker 7: and God can do that. But that's really the only way.
Speaker 7: It can't come just through the innate knowledge of nature
Speaker 7: or something like that. Hence, what has to be this
Speaker 7: supernatural connection, because salvation is faith comes by hearing hearing
Speaker 7: about the Word of God, and so faith is partly knowledge.
Speaker 7: It's not totally just knowledge or an assent to propositions.
Speaker 7: But that's why Paul preaches to the Pagans, and he says,
Speaker 7: the one that you don't know is the one that
Speaker 7: you need to know. Serious machines five dollars. Do you
Speaker 7: have any thoughts on hide like comedy. It feels like
Speaker 7: he was ostracized and now he's blowing up. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 7: I mean, is there more new raw comedy coming that
Speaker 7: will combat the current paradigm. That's an interesting question. I
Speaker 7: mean Sam is kind of at the forefront of the
Speaker 7: cutting edge comedy right now. I mean Sam Tripoli is
Speaker 7: partly part of that. Leonarda is partly part of that.
Speaker 7: But of course, you know, stand up is a little
Speaker 7: different from like other types of comedy that's, you know,
Speaker 7: sketch comedy, or like Sam Hide Show, which is a
Speaker 7: mix of monologues and riffs and sketch comedy. So I
Speaker 7: don't know, that's a good question. Who's the next cutting
Speaker 7: edge funny people. Maybe we are, maybe we are over here,
Speaker 7: but that's what we'd like to see because when you
Speaker 7: have like a takeover of the liberal elite structure the cathedral,
Speaker 7: then the only people that are going to be against
Speaker 7: the establishment or counterculture are the ones that are comedians
Speaker 7: that are not the crazy libs. But there's not many
Speaker 7: of those, but you guys in the chat, I'm sure
Speaker 7: you guys could think up some other I actually was
Speaker 7: thinking about doing a show just on like favorite comedy,
Speaker 7: favorite Scotch shows, and favorite comedians. That'd be a funny show.
Speaker 7: We've talked about on Twitter, but I've actually done the show.
Speaker 7: But great question, And remember go check out Sam Hid Show.
Speaker 7: The new episode is Boomers, and then we got a
Speaker 7: couple more already kind of ready to go pretty soon.
Speaker 7: Every day I'm strugging five dollars Part three? Why would
Speaker 7: God subject people to being born outside the ability to
Speaker 7: hear the gospel. Well, the church fathers have speculated about
Speaker 7: this with Christ preaching the Gospel to the dead, not
Speaker 7: that that's speculation, but you have Saint Cyril and you
Speaker 7: have John Damascus speculating that if Christ preached the Gospel
Speaker 7: to all of the dead in the Old Testament, which
Speaker 7: we know we need to send into Hades, it's possible
Speaker 7: that somehow he does preach the Gospel to everyone. Jay,
Speaker 7: do you come that glorious Maine on your chest, Cyber
Speaker 7: Not this dude is talking at about my Chester a
Speaker 7: little too much kind of where I feel feeling a little.
Speaker 7: I feel a little awkward.
Speaker 5: Thought over here.
Speaker 7: I feel not me, not me. Hell no, I'm afraid
Speaker 7: that we get I'm afraid we're getting Roman Catholics in
Speaker 7: the chat now with all this gay crap.
Speaker 5: Do you remember that priest calendar in Rome?
Speaker 7: People don't realize that when you go to Rome, and
Speaker 7: this is not People didn't believe me when I say.
Speaker 5: This priest pin up calendar.
Speaker 7: There's uh, it's the gayest thing ever, dude's and it's reel.
Speaker 7: When you go to Rome and you walk around, anywhere
Speaker 7: you walk around, there's a little vendors selling you know,
Speaker 7: knick knacks and junk everywhere, right, all of the vendors
Speaker 7: sell Hot Priest calendars. I kid you not. It's and
Speaker 7: it's not for the women. It's super gay, dude. And
Speaker 7: it's real. And I think like, if you look it up,
Speaker 7: you'll only see it. You'll only see it when you
Speaker 7: look up, like people selling them on eBay and Etsy
Speaker 7: and whatnot. Let's see what And they do it every
Speaker 7: year too, because it's popping up like different genera different years. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that's it right here.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 7: Oh look the Guardian even did it. Look they wrote
Speaker 7: about it. Now you might think, well, but this is
Speaker 7: for the ladies. It's not for the ladies, dude. It's
Speaker 7: super gay man. I'm telling you. I was surprised when
Speaker 7: we saw this. We're walking around Rome and I'm like,
Speaker 7: why are they selling Hot prie It's called like the
Speaker 7: Hot Priest Calendar. I'm like, why are they selling us?
Speaker 7: What is this? Yeah? Like that's what looks like Yeah
Speaker 7: I think.
Speaker 5: That's even the one. No, that's twenty ninety, but it
Speaker 5: looked exactly like that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is every year this and like we're walking
Speaker 7: around like what is this? Why are they selling this,
Speaker 7: This is so bizarre and as gay as hell. Dude.
Speaker 5: Well, speaking of the Vatican, we were talking about.
Speaker 7: Anti Christ, a bunch of damn butt buddies, Dude, butt buddies,
Speaker 7: butt buddies, but buddies, but buddies in Rome. Justin Henley
Speaker 7: Jay is sleeping on the Ortho thugs. I don't mean
Speaker 7: to I watched, Actually, I watched Jim Bob and that dude.
Speaker 7: I'm sort of mean to be rude. I forget the
Speaker 7: guy's name, but the guys, those Jim Bob and his
Speaker 7: co host. I watched some of that the other day.
Speaker 7: Why are you spamming? Please stop spamming the chip but
Speaker 7: buddies and medew skeptic five dollars? Does the alg Xander
Speaker 7: tradition address how Christ makes up for shortcomings to the
Speaker 7: church militant when it comes to preaching the Gospel to all.
Speaker 7: That's kind of what I'm getting at. Yeah, so I
Speaker 7: know Saint Cerarl Alexander discusses that possibility, and I know
Speaker 7: John Damascus discusses it later on, and there's probably more,
Speaker 7: but I'm just not aware of it. Wyats the Alexander tradition.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure, except that they always tended to focus
Speaker 7: on the cosmic scope of the incarnation and redemption, more
Speaker 7: so than like the Antiochene tradition focused on christ humanity. So,
Speaker 7: LW five dollars, do you have a ballpark on when
Speaker 7: you plan to pull the grid and go off grid?
Speaker 7: Pull the plug and go off grid before all of
Speaker 7: the cbdc's UBI transhumanism is normalized and we were plugged
Speaker 7: into another nested simulation. Well, I'm pretty positive that that
Speaker 7: won't all necessarily come about. They might try this in
Speaker 7: certain areas, they might push in certain regions, but I
Speaker 7: don't know that we are necessarily in the end of
Speaker 7: the world or the end times. We don't know. So no,
Speaker 7: I'm not really planning to leave and go off grid.
Speaker 7: In fact, what we're gonna do is, as Bitcoin continues
Speaker 7: to go to the moon, I will expand into doing
Speaker 7: the things that I like to do. I will do
Speaker 7: more of the comedy stuff. I will do music. I
Speaker 7: will be rebranding as DJ dong Butter.
Speaker 5: We're gonna have a full on variety show where we're yeah,
Speaker 5: we'll just have fun and do what we want to do.
Speaker 7: Con I mean, I told you guys on Twitter what
Speaker 7: I was going to do and y'all don't see it
Speaker 7: to believe me. Let's let's take a look at this.
Speaker 7: And at a certain point, I'm almost sick of all of
Speaker 7: these weirdos even being on my timeline. It's like, get
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Speaker 7: Well where is that at? There we go. We're here.
Speaker 7: Now that I am retiring from debating, I will prep
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Speaker 7: goody cyber, not five dollars. What are you about jd
Speaker 7: Vance and his ties to Teal and Pall and Teer.
Speaker 7: I mean it's pretty well known now, I mean I'm
Speaker 7: not sure, like, I mean, what's the Vice president doesn't
Speaker 7: really do a whole lot, So I'm not super worried
Speaker 7: about it. But as far as I can tell, I
Speaker 7: hear that that is there. Did you come across the
Speaker 7: Teal Vance connection?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Did Courtney talk about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. OK, so he's the one that pretty much supported
Speaker 5: jd Vance his whole career because they had this plan,
Speaker 5: the currency plan from PayPal the whole time. So Elon
Speaker 5: and Teal have been wanting to get their hands on
Speaker 5: making the one world currency.
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Speaker 13: I want to show off something that we're all proud of.
Speaker 13: I've got a browser here. This is Jay Dyers, much vaunted,
Speaker 13: much sought after philosophy one oh one. Now he just
Speaker 13: got this page up. We are just testing it out.
Speaker 13: You guys are some of the first people in the
Speaker 13: world to see it. I want to say, for my part,
Speaker 13: it's not philosophy you want to one. I think this
Speaker 13: is as mistitling. I really think is as like philosophy unleashed.
Speaker 13: Because a philosophy want on one course, they give you
Speaker 13: kind of some useless information that you can't make sense of.
Speaker 13: Jay actually lays out over twelve weeks, dozens and dozens
Speaker 13: of hours put into just the presentation of this, let
Speaker 13: alone the hundreds and thousands of hours of research that
Speaker 13: it takes to have a coherent evolution and history of
Speaker 13: the origins of philosophy, the uses of philosophy, the different
Speaker 13: ways to look at it over time, and how that
Speaker 13: has been brought about to what we have today, which
Speaker 13: is almost an absence of philosophy on the objective logic
Speaker 13: and reason side in an overabundance of woke philosophy that
Speaker 13: is irrational and is made up day by day as
Speaker 13: people are like I think we should bring racism back,
Speaker 13: and then here's a justification, and then it gets wokeified
Speaker 13: and spread out, and then all of a sudden you
Speaker 13: have a bunch of communist socialist ideas where you become
Speaker 13: the property in action. You need to be able to
Speaker 13: stand on your own ground. It helps to have a
Speaker 13: foundation in philosophy because it's a method define truth when
Speaker 13: you get down to it. Philosophy is there because you
Speaker 13: love truth enough to go and learn how to find it,
Speaker 13: because it's valuable. So if you're interested in things like that.
Speaker 13: There is the landing page. We'll link it up into notes.
Speaker 13: It is a longer once, so we'll get a shorter
Speaker 13: URL for this. I'm sure Jay has a link on
Speaker 13: his page. I just wanted to show it off. Now
Speaker 13: you know it exists, you can go look for it
Speaker 13: and see why this is not your father's philosophy.
Speaker 7: Right, So well done. I'm proud of everyone who helped
Speaker 7: to produce and edit.
Speaker 13: The course, and of course Jade Deflaw's job.
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Speaker 7: All right. Um, Now to the guy that sent the
Speaker 7: big fat super chat here, but you retracted it. Um,
Speaker 7: I can't tell if it looks like it went through.
Speaker 7: So to Zar Nicholas, if you did not mean to
Speaker 7: send that super chat because I noticed it looks like
Speaker 7: you retracted it because maybe you put in too much money,
Speaker 7: just send me an email at my website email and
Speaker 7: let me know who you are and all that, and
Speaker 7: I will refund you. Unless you did mean to send it,
Speaker 7: but you didn't want to send a message. So but
Speaker 7: I don't want you to lose you know, three hundred
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Speaker 7: that super chat uh cyber not five dollars. I mean,
Speaker 7: because he's presumably the lead twenty twenty eight Republican candidate.
Speaker 7: Will they play the long game for a They could?
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, maybe they got like a tech overlord
Speaker 7: control structure going with JD Vance. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Well, they're noticing that. I mean, even mainstream normies are
Speaker 5: noticing how many correlations this has with like prophecy and
Speaker 5: currency and anti Christ and stuff like that. So even
Speaker 5: the New York Times I think it was they've just
Speaker 5: had a big interview with Peter Teal where they were
Speaker 5: discussing all of this because they were like, oh, this
Speaker 5: sounds very anti Christ. And so the interview was talking
Speaker 5: about how well, would you rather have the BT system
Speaker 5: or would you rather have armageddon? Because that's what we're
Speaker 5: heading into. So this is the false dialectic that they're
Speaker 5: giving people. It's like, would you rather have mutual assured
Speaker 5: destruction in nuclear war or would you have rather be
Speaker 5: like surveilled and watched all the time. So these are
Speaker 5: your two options. And I took some screenshots of the
Speaker 5: written interview and then we can play some clips if
Speaker 5: you want. But they start out talking about that, how
Speaker 5: Peter Teel and the technocrasts think that we are in
Speaker 5: a stall right now that we have not made as
Speaker 5: many advancements. It's from let's say the nineteen seventies until
Speaker 5: now that they had made in like eighteen seventy until
Speaker 5: nineteen fifty or something like that. So he's like, you
Speaker 5: think that we are getting so much more advanced, but
Speaker 5: he's like, actually, we are in some kind of like.
Speaker 7: Oh, I've heard this. Someone else talks about this. I
Speaker 7: think Chris Langen talked about the same thing the High
Speaker 7: psych you guy, because we were going to try to
Speaker 7: get him on Sam Hud and I think he was
Speaker 7: talking about that, you think tech has done this amazing advancement,
Speaker 7: Actually hasn't.
Speaker 5: They even referred to it as the back to the
Speaker 5: future theory, like from the wild West, back to the
Speaker 5: future to the modern time.
Speaker 7: You talking about Will Smith wile Wall West. Yes, girls, girls, girls, girls,
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Speaker 7: you were you? Oh man, I was crying laughing of
Speaker 7: the new Will Smith song. If y'all, if y'all haven't
Speaker 7: watched something that you want four. If people want a
Speaker 7: good laugh, go watch the new Will Smith song and
Speaker 7: pay attention to it. It's gonna crack you up, dude,
Speaker 7: I feel like and and all of the all the
Speaker 7: videos making fun of it are just as funny as
Speaker 7: the video humiliation. That's what the guy. That's what the
Speaker 7: guy making fun of it. Uh, if you not watch this, dude,
Speaker 7: you gotta go watch it. Because he's got a bunch
Speaker 7: of like ratchet hose in there that do not look good.
Speaker 7: And he's like five five that's a ten, So it's
Speaker 7: like two fives is a ten and Will Smith lodging
Speaker 7: and all that's Will Smith math. And also he's like
Speaker 7: dressed like Carlton, and he's they're like giant goddesses and
Speaker 7: he's like this little bitty sent man looking at him,
Speaker 7: looking up. He's looking like Carlton. Now we thought he
Speaker 7: was the bad boy, right, And what's he doing with
Speaker 7: these funky ass chicks on here? Looking rough? And then
Speaker 7: he's over here saying I'll buy you whatever you need. Ladies,
Speaker 7: hold up your drinks please, So he's having to pay
Speaker 7: for any girls to just even be around him. What
Speaker 7: y'all look look at this chick looked like a freaking
Speaker 7: Barbie doll. He's dancing on her shoulder like he's what's this,
Speaker 7: Jimmy Cricket? Oh man? This video is just something else.
Speaker 7: And my favorite part is when he's arguing with himself.
Speaker 7: This party goes well, he says, I can't even remember
Speaker 7: the lyrics here, it.
Speaker 5: Goes, let me pretty to me?
Speaker 7: To me, it's like I ain't saying that.
Speaker 8: Wait, at women not pretty to me? I mean she's
Speaker 8: pretty to me.
Speaker 7: There's not a lot of women ain't pretty to me.
Speaker 7: I mean she's pretty to me. But he's at therapy.
Speaker 7: So this is his altars. This is the two Smith alters. Oh,
Speaker 7: they didn't even see it. Shoot, let me let me
Speaker 7: go back. Yeah, so they're not even seeing this, damn it.
Speaker 7: So here's the ratchet hose. Look rough, here's a tiny
Speaker 7: Will Smith. Where's it at? Here? He is on the purse.
Speaker 5: He can't even dance right now.
Speaker 8: Here he goes a lot of women not pretty to me,
Speaker 8: I mean she's pretty to me.
Speaker 7: That's funny too. When he goes, I like you, you, you, and.
Speaker 5: You your brain says when you have on.
Speaker 7: It's even worse than that, though, because He's not like
Speaker 7: he's just hitting on girls. He's like simping and being like, oh,
Speaker 7: buy you whatever. You won't please hang out with me.
Speaker 7: I'll make a phone call.
Speaker 1: You'll be on Vogue.
Speaker 7: It's like Vogue anyway.
Speaker 5: Are the girls in the room with those.
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Speaker 7: the systems being safeguarded and propped up and enforced by
Speaker 7: a surveillance state. It equips all of his protagandists and
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Speaker 7: week and I was going back and forth in a
Speaker 7: long DM with Rouslan, trying to get him to open
Speaker 7: his mind a bit. It was crazy how in denial
Speaker 7: he was. How did he come across when y'all were together, Well,
Speaker 7: when we went out to dinner, we didn't talk about theology.
Speaker 7: We just talked about life and things in general. And
Speaker 7: it was just a nice, normal dinner conversation with me
Speaker 7: and him and Jamie in a restaurant in San Diego.
Speaker 7: And then the next day we I didn't know what
Speaker 7: to expect because his show had no idea what he
Speaker 7: wanted to bring up. We didn't really talk about a
Speaker 7: whole lot of what we were going to do, and
Speaker 7: then it ended up in that. Really we only got
Speaker 7: into a debate in that last hour and a half
Speaker 7: about sola fide. So he didn't seem super obstinate. He
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Speaker 5: Oh that's commercial.
Speaker 7: What's commercial? The chalk one, Oh, that's supposed to be funny.
Speaker 7: That's that's iron Irony looked that up, comedy man, that's
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Speaker 7: Actually probably Musculus ten dollars, Jay again, research blockchain holdings. Okay, well,
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Speaker 5: Who donuts.
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Speaker 5: Speaking of memberships.
Speaker 7: Hold on s Duster ten dollars. Thank you, Jay. I
Speaker 7: converted after we spoke a year ago. I am newly
Speaker 7: illumined since two twenty three. I have an Orthodox friend
Speaker 7: who is willfully ignorant on certain geopolitical questions. Is this
Speaker 7: sinful or a passion's protection? Passions protection? Whether there's stupids
Speaker 7: so properly called passions? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 7: mean he could have. There could be multiple reasons why
Speaker 7: a person doesn't care to get into these more geopolitical
Speaker 7: minded questions. So I couldn't say what your friend's reasonings are,
Speaker 7: but I'm glad to hear that you're in the church.
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Speaker 5: Let's see, people have been giving me donuts and I
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Speaker 7: Well, you can read them on your channel, Xavier. I
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Speaker 5: Father Cosmos of Austria.
Speaker 7: No, he's some about on my website. Oh he said
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Speaker 5: That's a classic. We did that one like before we
Speaker 5: even started dating.
Speaker 7: Yes, we did. It's actually a lot more going on
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Speaker 5: modified food.
Speaker 7: So does old old podcasts don't even come up anymore.
Speaker 5: The Stuff is like marshmallow gou that turns you into
Speaker 5: marshmall ago. Remember all the product placement in the stuff.
Speaker 7: It should be in here because here is the witch
Speaker 7: that we did that was ten years ago in the Stuff.
Speaker 5: Yes, so they were deliberately placing big corporate products in.
Speaker 5: They're like Pepsi and Nestle and stuff like that, saying
Speaker 5: this these corporate slop. Is the stuff.
Speaker 7: Might be in here because we've done it twice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we do it two times. Actually one of them
Speaker 5: was probably just audios.
Speaker 7: It is. It is just not coming up so old.
Speaker 1: M h.
Speaker 7: So here is one version of us covering the stuff.
Speaker 7: But maybe I had to put your name in there.
Speaker 7: It's hard to type at an angle? Was it when
Speaker 7: we did society to man these old ones that still
Speaker 7: don't even want to show up anymore? Aha? No, that's
Speaker 7: another Are you sure that's the one I just pulled up?
Speaker 7: I can find it this way. All right, what's the
Speaker 7: next point. We're gonna let's get into the Peter Tiel thing, because.
Speaker 5: So everyone's talking about this interview that he just did,
Speaker 5: and he even brings up Orthodox Christianity, and so I
Speaker 5: screenshoted a bunch of nuggets and early on. So that's
Speaker 5: what we're talking about. They think that we have stagnation.
Speaker 5: Right now, we're stagnating and we need to take more risks.
Speaker 5: We need to jump ahead in advancement. He says. Culturally,
Speaker 5: what I imagine it looks like is early modernity, where
Speaker 5: people thought we would cure diseases. They thought we would
Speaker 5: have radical life extension. Immortality was part of the project
Speaker 5: of early modernity. It was Francis Bacon. So he's already
Speaker 5: talking about like Enlightenment people new Atlantis, Neoplatonism. He says,
Speaker 5: maybe it was anti Christian, maybe it was downstream of Christianity.
Speaker 5: It was competitive. If Christianity promised you a physical resurrection,
Speaker 5: science was not going to succeed unless it promised you
Speaker 5: the exact same thing. So then he starts talking about
Speaker 5: in the early days they were into crowdgenics. Like he
Speaker 5: goes in nineteen ninety nine, we were running PayPal. He
Speaker 5: went to a freezing party where it was like a
Speaker 5: Tubberer party, but they were selling free ice.
Speaker 7: Baby, Yes, it all comes back.
Speaker 5: So you could get the ice Vanilla ice.
Speaker 7: Package, the VIP Posse package.
Speaker 5: Yes, so you could get either your head or your
Speaker 5: whole body, depending on how much money had. But he
Speaker 5: was like, it was disturbing when the dot matrix printer
Speaker 5: didn't quite work and so the freezing policies couldn't be
Speaker 5: printed out. So it was even like a foreshadowing that,
Speaker 5: like technology and machinery is not always something that you
Speaker 5: can't count on.
Speaker 7: Is it too late to join the VIP Posse? Doesn't
Speaker 7: because we know a person who uh is at a
Speaker 7: place where Vanilla brings his cars.
Speaker 5: Remember, well, maybe you can get.
Speaker 7: Remember a certain Gabe.
Speaker 14: Yeah, the iceman brings his cars in, So maybe it's
Speaker 14: not too late to join the VIP posse, we throw
Speaker 14: a little cringe, Core tracks his way.
Speaker 7: Next thing, you know, it's blowing up.
Speaker 5: Well, let's give Vanilla Eyes to come perform with Riffrap
Speaker 5: and you.
Speaker 7: We'll try. We'll try.
Speaker 5: So then they start talking about boomers, your favorite.
Speaker 7: This is the only thing that makes me. Now I'm
Speaker 7: starting to like Peter Tilly. He makes boomer jokes.
Speaker 5: He says, in retrospect, there was still a fringe boomer
Speaker 5: view where they still believed they could live forever, and
Speaker 5: that was the last generation. So I'm always anti boomer,
Speaker 5: but maybe there's something we've lost, even in this friend
Speaker 5: of boomor narcissism, where there were at least a few
Speaker 5: boomers who still believe science would hear all their diseases.
Speaker 5: No one who's a millennial believes that anymore. And then
Speaker 5: you always think of the right arguments to make. Later,
Speaker 5: he says, it was talking about having dinner with Elon.
Speaker 5: Oh Elon's sad because he doesn't want to go to
Speaker 5: Mars anymore. Twenty twenty four was the year where Elon
Speaker 5: stopped believing in it. It was supposed to be a
Speaker 5: political project.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Mars is thinking day anyway, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And in twenty twenty four, Elon came to believe that
Speaker 5: if you went to Mars, the social US government, the
Speaker 5: woke AI would follow you there. It was a meeting
Speaker 5: with Elon and the CEO of Deep Mind that we
Speaker 5: brokeered and he says, the interviewer says, this is an
Speaker 5: AI company. Yeah, And that's the rough conversation that Demis
Speaker 5: was telling Elon that AI will follow you no matter
Speaker 5: where you go. And then they just start talking about
Speaker 5: AI was important, Mars was important to Elon, and then
Speaker 5: he goes, what does Mars mean.
Speaker 7: Well, Mars's moms.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it does. We did that movie on my channel.
Speaker 5: Teal says, is it just a scientific project or is
Speaker 5: it like Hindline The Moon as a libertarian Paradise or
Speaker 5: something like this? So here they're bringing up the old
Speaker 5: sci fi's right, Yeah, and that's where GROC comes from.
Speaker 5: Is Hindline Stranger and Strange Land?
Speaker 7: Do you want to hear this?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 15: What does that mean to you? What is the Antichrist?
Speaker 2: How much time do we have?
Speaker 15: We've got as long as much time as you have
Speaker 15: to talk about the Antichrist?
Speaker 16: All right, Well, I have a I could talk about
Speaker 16: it where But no, I think, uh, I think there's
Speaker 16: always a question, you know, how how do we articulate,
Speaker 16: you know, some of these existential risks, some of the
Speaker 16: challenges we have, and they're all framed to sort of
Speaker 16: runaway dystopian science text. There's a risk of nuclear war.
Speaker 16: There's a risk of environmental disaster, maybe something specifical like
Speaker 16: climate changel there are lots of other ones we've come
Speaker 16: up with. There's a risk of you know, I know,
Speaker 16: bio weapons. You have all the different sci fi scenarios.
Speaker 16: Obviously there are certain types of risks with AI. But
Speaker 16: I always think that if we're gonna have this frame
Speaker 16: of talking about existential risks, perhaps we should also talk
Speaker 16: about the risk of another type of a bad singularity,
Speaker 16: which I would describe as the one world totalitarian state,
Speaker 16: because I would say the political solution, the default political
Speaker 16: solution people have for all these existential risks is one
Speaker 16: world governance and the Christian framing, which in some ways
Speaker 16: the same question is Antichrist or armageddon. You have the
Speaker 16: one world state of the Antichrist, or we're sleepwalking towards armageddon,
Speaker 16: one world or none Antichrist or armageddon? On one level,
Speaker 16: are the same question. The way the Antichrist would take
Speaker 16: over the world is you talk about armageddon NonStop, you
Speaker 16: talk about existential risk NonStop, and.
Speaker 2: This is what you need to regulate.
Speaker 16: It's the opposite of the picture of Baconian science from
Speaker 16: the seventeenth eighteenth century, where you know, the Antichrist is
Speaker 16: like some evil tech genius, evil scientists who invents this
Speaker 16: machine to take over the world. People are way too
Speaker 16: scared for that. In our world, the thing that has
Speaker 16: political resonance is the opposite. It is it is the
Speaker 16: thing that has political resonances. We need to stop science.
Speaker 16: We need to just say stop to this. And this
Speaker 16: is where yeah, I don't know. In the seventeenth century,
Speaker 16: I can imagine a doctor Strangelove Edward Teller type person taking.
Speaker 1: Over the world.
Speaker 16: In our world, it's far more likely to be Greta Thunberg.
Speaker 15: This is my my very specific question for you, right,
Speaker 15: is that you are you're you're a you're an investor
Speaker 15: in AI, You're you know, you're deeply invested in pallenteer
Speaker 15: in military technology and technologies of surveillance and technologies.
Speaker 7: Well, I don't think Greta is Antichrist. I don't think
Speaker 7: she's going to take over the world. I mean, first
Speaker 7: of all, Greta is a woman, a girl woman. Now,
Speaker 7: I mean that's silly, But I don't Yeah, somebody said,
Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't know anything about Peter Till
Speaker 7: other than what I read in his zero to one book.
Speaker 7: But somebody said that he has read Renee Gerrard, and
Speaker 7: so his idea of Christian theology is influenced by that
Speaker 7: book over there, Sacred. In what's it called, what's the
Speaker 7: Red text, they're saying the something and the sacred violence
Speaker 7: in the Sacred by Gerard. So I've not read Rene
Speaker 7: Gerard yet, so I can't say. But it sounds like
Speaker 7: the ideas of just a sort of like generic like
Speaker 7: generic terms like anti Christ and apocalypse and beat system.
Speaker 7: But it's not really situated in the Biblical text. It's
Speaker 7: just kind of like situated in pop culture ideas or
Speaker 7: like multi religious studies ideas of what Antichrist is, or
Speaker 7: maybe even perennialist ideas like Upton's book on Antichrist and Counterinitiation.
Speaker 7: So it's not again when he's taught when he says
Speaker 7: this stuff, I don't know exactly what he means, because
Speaker 7: it's not really the biblical framework.
Speaker 15: Or fair and so on. Right, And it just seems
Speaker 15: to me that when you tell me a story about
Speaker 15: the Antichrist coming to power and using the fear of
Speaker 15: technological change to sort of impose order on the world,
Speaker 15: I feel like that Antichrist would be maybe be using
Speaker 15: the tools that you think you were that you were building, right, Like,
Speaker 15: wouldn't the Antichrist be like, great, you know, we're not
Speaker 15: going to have any more technological progress. But I really
Speaker 15: like what Palanteer has done so far, right, Isn't that
Speaker 15: Isn't that a concern? Wouldn't that be the you know,
Speaker 15: the irony of history would be that the man publicly
Speaker 15: worrying about the Antichrist accidentally hastens his or her arrival.
Speaker 16: Uh, They're all Look, they are all these different scenario.
Speaker 16: I obviously don't think that that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 15: I Uh, I mean to be clear, I don't think
Speaker 15: that's I don't think that's what you're doing either. I'm
Speaker 15: just interested in how you get to will a world
Speaker 15: willing to submit to permanent authoritarian rule.
Speaker 2: Will But but.
Speaker 16: Again, uh, there there are these different gradations of this
Speaker 16: we can describe. But is this so preposterous that the
Speaker 16: entire world has submitted for fifty years to peace and safetysm.
Speaker 16: This is a first Thessalonians five three. The slogan of
Speaker 16: the Antichrist is peace and safety, and and we've submitted
Speaker 16: to You know, the FDA regulates not just drugs in
Speaker 16: the US, but de facto in the whole world because
Speaker 16: the rest of the world. The first the FDA, the
Speaker 16: Nuclear Regulatory Commission, effectively regulates nuclear power plants all over
Speaker 16: the world. People, you can't, you know, you can't design
Speaker 16: a modul and nuclear reactor and just build it in Argentina.
Speaker 16: They won't trust the Argentinian regulators. They're going to defer
Speaker 16: to the US.
Speaker 2: And so it is at least it's at least a question.
Speaker 7: So he seems to be framing it like a libertarian
Speaker 7: would that Antichrist will be this sort of universal collective
Speaker 7: government control and so individual minded, you know, and cat
Speaker 7: libertarian people that are not collectivists therefore wouldn't be building
Speaker 7: or participating in a b system. So, but I don't
Speaker 7: think that it doesn't follow from that that just because
Speaker 7: you're sort of libertarian or anti collectivists that you wouldn't
Speaker 7: be or couldn't be participating in the b system. I mean,
Speaker 7: they don't even seem to recognize that Antichrist is not
Speaker 7: a woman. But and then this is the next section.
Speaker 15: You would prefer the human race to endure?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 15: Uh, you're hesit yet? Well, I yes, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I I would, I would.
Speaker 15: This is a long hemitation, long hesitation.
Speaker 2: There's so many questions in place.
Speaker 15: Wouldn't the human race survive?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yes, okay, but but uh.
Speaker 16: I I also would I I I also would like
Speaker 16: us to to radically solve these problems.
Speaker 2: And uh.
Speaker 16: And so you know it's always I don't know, you know, yeah,
Speaker 16: transhumanism is this, you know, the ideal was this radical
Speaker 16: transformation where your human natural body gets.
Speaker 7: I will say I wasn't expecting him to start quoting
Speaker 7: First Essalonians. That surprised me because I thought he was
Speaker 7: not situating any of this in terms of the text.
Speaker 7: I don't. I still don't think he is, like in
Speaker 7: terms of the book revelation. But it was odd that
Speaker 7: he saw to Bsalonias.
Speaker 16: Formed into an immortal body. And there's a critique of
Speaker 16: let's say the trans people in a sexual context, or
Speaker 16: a transvestite is someone who changes their clothes and cross dresses,
Speaker 16: and a transsexual is someone where you change your penis
Speaker 16: into a vagina. And we can then debate how well
Speaker 16: those surgeries work.
Speaker 2: But we want more.
Speaker 16: Transformation than that. It's the critique is not that it's
Speaker 16: weird and unnatural. It's man, it's so pathetically little, and okay,
Speaker 16: we want more than cross dressing or changing your sex organs.
Speaker 16: We want you to be able to change your heart
Speaker 16: and change your mind and change your whole your whole body.
Speaker 16: And then Orthodox Christianity, by the way, the critique Orthodox
Speaker 16: Christianity has of this is these things don't go far enough,
Speaker 16: Like that transhumanism is just changing your body, but you
Speaker 16: also need to transform your soul and you need to
Speaker 16: transform your your whole self and.
Speaker 15: So right, but the other way wait wait, sorry, I
Speaker 15: generally agree with your What I think is your belief
Speaker 15: that religion should be a friend to science and ideas
Speaker 15: of scientific progress. I think any idea of divine providence
Speaker 15: has to encompass the fact that we have progressed and
Speaker 15: achieved and done things that would have been unimaginable to
Speaker 15: our ancestors, but it still also seems like, yeah, the
Speaker 15: promise of Christianity in the end is you get you
Speaker 15: get the perfected body and the perfected soul through God's grace,
Speaker 15: and the person who tries to do it on their
Speaker 15: own with a bunch of machines is likely to end
Speaker 15: up as a dystopian character.
Speaker 2: Well, uh, it's let's let's articulately this.
Speaker 15: And you can have a heretical form of Christianity. Right
Speaker 15: that says something else.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 16: I think the word need sure does not occur once
Speaker 16: in the Old Testament. And so you know, if if
Speaker 16: you you know, and there is you know, there is
Speaker 16: a word in which a sense in which the way
Speaker 16: I understand you know, the you know, the Judeo Christian
Speaker 16: inspiration is it is it is it is. It is
Speaker 16: about transcending nature, It is about overcoming things, and you know, and.
Speaker 7: So Christianity is an allegory for transhumanism. It's a way
Speaker 7: to speak through like mythological language about the hope and
Speaker 7: the promise of technology giving immortality and thus transcending nature.
Speaker 7: I mean, there would be an equivalent Hebrew term for nature.
Speaker 7: So I'm not sure what he means by that this.
Speaker 16: Thing you can say to nature is that people are fallen,
Speaker 16: and that that's the natural thing in a Christian sense
Speaker 16: is that you're messed up.
Speaker 2: And that's true.
Speaker 7: See, that's the Calvinist view. Nature is what God created.
Speaker 7: It's the things that are what they are due to
Speaker 7: being created and being given natures by God. So the
Speaker 7: divine nature is uncreated, and then everything else has a
Speaker 7: created nature and is according to Genesis good, It is
Speaker 7: good by nature. So I just, yeah, I think that
Speaker 7: what we got here is just an attempt to read
Speaker 7: Christianity as some sort of myth of the gods anticipating
Speaker 7: the ability of technology to give us the secrets of
Speaker 7: you know, immortality through mastering nature.
Speaker 5: The interviewer in that in the text, he says, he
Speaker 5: goes on to say, working to build the hypothetical machine God.
Speaker 5: Don't think that they're cooperating with Yahweh Jehovah, the Lord
Speaker 5: of host. Teal says, sure, sure, And the guy says
Speaker 5: they think that they're building in more time on their
Speaker 5: own right, And Teal says, we're jumping around a lot
Speaker 5: of things. So again the critique I was saying is
Speaker 5: they're not ambitious enough. From a Christian point of view,
Speaker 5: these people are not ambitious enough. Then we get into
Speaker 5: the question, well are they but they're not morally and
Speaker 5: spiritually ambitious enough? And then are they still physically ambitious enough?
Speaker 5: So I wonder why he brought up Orthodox Christianity specifically.
Speaker 7: Well, some people call just any Christianity that is adhering
Speaker 7: to its principles little o orthodox. Oh, I mean he
Speaker 7: might have meant actually Eastern Orthodox Christianity. I don't know
Speaker 7: what he meant, but that's a good question. I'm not
Speaker 7: sure in what sense. But now I've heard of this
Speaker 7: ross do thought guy, but I don't know who he is.
Speaker 7: Anybody know who he is?
Speaker 5: Oh, here's something interesting. He goes on to say, you're ready, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: he said. I had a conversation with Elon a few
Speaker 5: weeks ago. He said, we're going to have a billion
Speaker 5: humanoid robots in the US in ten years, and I said, well,
Speaker 5: if that's true, you don't need to worry about the
Speaker 5: budget deficits because we're going to have so much growth.
Speaker 5: All the growth will take care of this. Then they
Speaker 5: just started talking about how these things aren't really thought through,
Speaker 5: like what.
Speaker 1: Are we going to do.
Speaker 16: But you know, there's some ways that you know, with
Speaker 16: God's help, you are supposed to transcend that and overcome that.
Speaker 7: So this guy is just some sort of gnormy Roman
Speaker 7: Catholic writer for the New York Times, I guess, or Harvard.
Speaker 7: So he's the normy conservative supposedly, I guess, to interview
Speaker 7: and to give pushback against Peter Tail. So let's get
Speaker 7: then too. The Landy a book. The interviewer is not orthodox.
Speaker 7: He's a Catholic, it says, So this.
Speaker 5: Is all stuff that this guy saw coming ten years
Speaker 5: ago almost, and why everybody is so balkanized on different
Speaker 5: sides right now because of social media and just internet
Speaker 5: use in general. Is the point of all of the
Speaker 5: social media is to create AI and that is the
Speaker 5: spoiler alert at the end of the book. So he
Speaker 5: goes through ten arguments about how social media and internet
Speaker 5: culture is just undermining society, right yeah, and.
Speaker 7: This is absolutely true. This is key. That's why I
Speaker 7: shared that video of that girl that worked at TikTok
Speaker 7: the other day and I said, it's a key, crucial
Speaker 7: video and it's going to tie into what Jamie and
Speaker 7: I talked about because Jaron Lannie says that when he
Speaker 7: was there helping and working with this stuff, like the
Speaker 7: whole point of all of it was to make it
Speaker 7: addictive to feed the algorithms for the AI to control you.
Speaker 5: So he was an interdisciplinary scientist at Microsoft, so that's
Speaker 5: how he would know. So he's on the inside, and
Speaker 5: he says that we are under constant surveillance. And this
Speaker 5: is even before like everyone had smartphones prodded by algorithms
Speaker 5: that make that make people make money off of your behavior.
Speaker 7: So manipula there he is. There isn't some masta instead
Speaker 7: of Wizard of All assisting nine. And this was a
Speaker 7: very popular interview at the time twenty eighteen. It went
Speaker 7: pretty big. He went on all the channels. This one
Speaker 7: got like four million views. But it's good to go
Speaker 7: back and watch this because this was pre AI rollout
Speaker 7: and he's basically explaining everything like in terms of where
Speaker 7: we are right now. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: So number one, his first argument of his ten arguments
Speaker 5: of why you should spend as little time as possible
Speaker 5: if you can help it on social media is that
Speaker 5: you are losing your free will. And he's talking about
Speaker 5: you know, you're in a cage that goes everywhere with you,
Speaker 5: meaning your devices that you carry. Yeah right, and you
Speaker 5: know it's it's a cage.
Speaker 7: For your mind, man, yeah, me through your mind.
Speaker 5: So through continue adjusted stimuli, the advertisers become behavioral modification experts.
Speaker 5: And he talks about the early studies of behaviorism. You know,
Speaker 5: you've got be a skinner, You've got Pavlov and his
Speaker 5: salivating dogs.
Speaker 7: Well, and it's the creating the feedback loop, like the
Speaker 7: Minds of Men documentary.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's called operant conditioning.
Speaker 7: And I've talked about that a lot. But even when
Speaker 7: I when I went on with Catherine Austin Fitz ten
Speaker 7: years ago, we talked about operant conditioning. That's also part
Speaker 7: of enchaultra don't listen to them, Okay, So.
Speaker 5: This plays into the early mid control experiments. And then
Speaker 5: before at least you knew you were submitting to experimentation,
Speaker 5: he says, when they would do uh science experiments, you
Speaker 5: would like sign a thing. At least you knew like
Speaker 5: they were manipulating you in some way, like they had
Speaker 5: your consent basically. Yeah, But nowadays you are being experimented
Speaker 5: on and with without your consent by going to the
Speaker 5: user's terms and conditions.
Speaker 7: And submitting to that tos.
Speaker 5: You're submitting to be part of a social science experiment, right.
Speaker 7: And that's what people are overlooking. They're thinking about am
Speaker 7: I going to be censored or not? Well, you're committing
Speaker 7: your information to feeding a giant algorithmic machine. Again, it's
Speaker 7: not that big of a deal and individually, but collectively
Speaker 7: it's feeding it. And this is what they want to
Speaker 7: create for society, is this technocracy where we're basically just
Speaker 7: run by computers.
Speaker 5: Right. And so you've seen that video where the former
Speaker 5: CEOs talk about the dopemine driven users and how it's
Speaker 5: so bad for your brain and they won't let their
Speaker 5: children use it. Yeah, right, So he talks about how
Speaker 5: the feedback loops destroy how society works. They and they
Speaker 5: regret creating it. They don't use it, they don't let
Speaker 5: their families use it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: He talks about how the old motto of Facebook was
Speaker 5: move fast and break things. So this is kind of
Speaker 5: the mindset that you see when the technocrats talk about
Speaker 5: like we're in a stagnation. They want to keep on going.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter if they break things. That was the
Speaker 5: whole ethos of Doge too, Like just get there and
Speaker 5: root around. It doesn't matter if we like crash things,
Speaker 5: because we're going to build back better. Right in their minds,
Speaker 5: So and then the old Google models don't be evil.
Speaker 7: I don't agree about that. Without about DOGE. I think
Speaker 7: that what they were doing was correct, but it was
Speaker 7: also potentially a step towards technocracy. But I don't think
Speaker 7: that shutting down USAID and trying to gut all of
Speaker 7: these deceptive cutout programs was it self bad.
Speaker 5: Well, it's just the ethos behind what they do.
Speaker 7: Like they just part of what they were trying to
Speaker 7: sell is that, look, technocracy will fix these problems that
Speaker 7: blow corrupt government can't fix.
Speaker 5: Yeah, then he starts talking about how so all of
Speaker 5: these things are so addictive, and then the different habits
Speaker 5: of addicts and what they do, so they tend to
Speaker 5: be more liars, they tend to be more isolated, they
Speaker 5: don't have they gradually lose touch with the real world.
Speaker 5: And so that's where you get people saying that we're
Speaker 5: elves and we're monsters, and we're Lord of the Rings,
Speaker 5: and we're D and D and I want to switch
Speaker 5: my body out with a anime cartoon or whatever.
Speaker 7: I'm more of a witch King of Angmar myself. But
Speaker 7: you can be.
Speaker 5: Magic elf.
Speaker 7: No, you're like, who's that elf they made up for
Speaker 7: the Hobbit the girl from Lost?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah from Lost.
Speaker 7: You're more of an elf like her.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'll take it.
Speaker 7: I'm more of a witch king of Angmar.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, you're losing touch with reality. You're starting to
Speaker 5: think that elves are real. And if you grow up
Speaker 5: with enough of this in your mind, that's how you
Speaker 5: become Yeah, thinking that you live in a simulation, saying
Speaker 5: that yes, and that reality is a simulation and we
Speaker 5: can just do mess around and do whatever you want,
Speaker 5: Like Grind's talked about, like I can be a villain
Speaker 5: because none of this is real. It doesn't really matter.
Speaker 5: It's just a simulation, right, So he talks about it's
Speaker 5: not always about pleasure on social media, but it's also
Speaker 5: about punishment and negative reinforcement, which is rage bait.
Speaker 7: So this is all prep for social credit, social credit
Speaker 7: score and control.
Speaker 5: And so the social media isn't it's two things at once.
Speaker 5: It's the pleasure and the pain that you get from
Speaker 5: the dopamine spike, and then the rage bait brings out
Speaker 5: your and he calls the whole thing the bummer machine.
Speaker 5: So number two is quitting social media is the best
Speaker 5: way to rise this insanity which we were just talking about.
Speaker 5: And the bummer machine is basically like you know, Facebook, Google.
Speaker 7: All of those, well, the infinity scroll. So here's what
Speaker 7: I've decided the way that I combat this. And it's
Speaker 7: still difficult because I get tons of annoying DMS that
Speaker 7: I feel like I need to answer, but I never
Speaker 7: go to the for you because remember the for you
Speaker 7: is there on all the platforms now to trigger you,
Speaker 7: because they realized that when they get you engaged and
Speaker 7: riled up, that you spend way more time on the
Speaker 7: platform than if you're looking at what the people that
Speaker 7: you actually followed are putting up. And Instagram was the
Speaker 7: most insidious because they hid the people that you're following,
Speaker 7: and they make you, when you open up Instagram, see
Speaker 7: the for you, and so you have to literally go
Speaker 7: in there and find and click to change it to
Speaker 7: follow who you're actually following. Otherwise it's just automatically the
Speaker 7: for you on purpose to trigger you.
Speaker 5: It's for you to get mad at exactly.
Speaker 7: That's what Landier is talking about. And then what's the
Speaker 7: let's let's go ahead and get to the end of
Speaker 7: this with the revelation of it being a cult.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, So the bummer stands for behaviors of users
Speaker 5: modified and made into an empire for rent. So it's like,
Speaker 5: your mind is uh the product. So whether they say
Speaker 5: if something is free, then you're the product.
Speaker 7: The algorithm is studying you and then putting the algorithm
Speaker 7: into you so that you become a robot.
Speaker 5: Exactly.
Speaker 7: That's it. That's the whole thing.
Speaker 5: Well, not only that, like on the way to you
Speaker 5: becoming a robot, you become an asshole in the ws.
Speaker 7: The demoralizing to make you become part of the border.
Speaker 5: Because he already called it that the assholes get the
Speaker 5: most attention. He calls it attention acquisition, leading to asshole supremacy.
Speaker 7: Say, that's this is the what's the problem. I'm the
Speaker 7: meanest man on the interview. This is my world, baby,
Speaker 7: I'm the oligarch that's going to be running shit because
Speaker 7: I'm just so mean.
Speaker 5: So being an assholes incentivized attention equals currency. And if
Speaker 5: you can make the most people mad, now meant it's
Speaker 5: the meanocracy. So he talks about cramming content, directing behavior,
Speaker 5: earning money for letting the worst assholes in society secretly
Speaker 5: screw with everyone else.
Speaker 7: I don't think he's find that's us, that's me. This
Speaker 7: is the meanocracy, there's all.
Speaker 5: Number three says social media makes you into an asshole,
Speaker 5: so the addicts seek out suffering, And yeah, I was
Speaker 5: agreeing with that, Like social media is like self harm
Speaker 5: at this point, just going on there and people will
Speaker 5: come become preternaturally quick to take offense, hoping to get
Speaker 5: into a fight, much like an alcoholic wal go looking
Speaker 5: for it.
Speaker 7: And he was saying this in twenty seventeen. Sixteen eighteen
Speaker 7: is when this book cames, okay, but he was saying
Speaker 7: that before that. Yeah, Ause, he's writing the boat before that.
Speaker 7: And this was way back before they had rolled out AI,
Speaker 7: before Twitter became a giant bloodsboard engine.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: He says that people become aggressive on their their inner
Speaker 5: trol comes out. It's impossible to be authentic because you
Speaker 5: can either you have to be like fake nice if
Speaker 5: you don't want anyone to get mad at you, or
Speaker 5: people are just gonna get mad for a reason. He
Speaker 5: says there is a danger of falling into pack or
Speaker 5: herd mentality when you're online, because others become archetypes. So
Speaker 5: it's always like in us versus them, my team, your team.
Speaker 5: You can't really like sit down and have a meaningful
Speaker 5: discourse or it's really hard to because you have reduced
Speaker 5: somebody to like your mascot of the t that you
Speaker 5: think they're on.
Speaker 7: Mean Girl Summer, Yeah, Mean girl Summer. We who are you?
Speaker 7: Are you Rachel McAdams, no.
Speaker 8: Of the girls?
Speaker 7: Or are you No?
Speaker 5: I'd probably be that.
Speaker 7: Weird Stacy dash No, who's the black girl in.
Speaker 5: In clus clueless? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Uh, it's says daniel Lewis ten dollars day. I know
Speaker 7: that it took you many years to convert toward the oxy.
Speaker 7: What were some of the topics or practices that took
Speaker 7: time to accept and how did you come to accept them?
Speaker 7: A lot of it and that was another not any practices.
Speaker 7: Just getting rid of all the tonism in Augustinian theology
Speaker 7: was a big part of it. And just problems with
Speaker 7: people at the local church. What was the main issues.
Speaker 5: Well, so, yeah, reducing people to archetypes that you can
Speaker 5: then fight with because you believe that they are opposing you,
Speaker 5: and I mean I knew, well they do, but but
Speaker 5: not everybody. Like there's more nuance in gray area that
Speaker 5: social media cannot.
Speaker 7: So just making everybody fight with everybody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it also makes what you say meaningless because it
Speaker 5: removes contact, nuance, audience, and accountability.
Speaker 7: Well, it also is an infinity scroll and it goes
Speaker 7: away and nobody remembers what you said two days ago,
Speaker 7: So it's all kind of like worthless.
Speaker 5: Well, not only is that.
Speaker 7: Cheapening of discourse. That's why print is better.
Speaker 5: AI is looking so real You're not going to know
Speaker 5: what's real in the future.
Speaker 7: Like, yeah, that's already where we're at, whether crisis of
Speaker 7: what's real.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So he even said this back then, bummers making
Speaker 5: everyone fake. I mean even all these accounts that are
Speaker 5: huge turned out to be fake, a lot of the red.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you were saying that trad wife accounts were getting it.
Speaker 5: So what else? Yeah, it's dangerous to wake up and
Speaker 5: you know, basically choose violence, like to try and think
Speaker 5: of what's the worst thing that you can say to
Speaker 5: get the most people mad at you. He talks about
Speaker 5: how social media is just string empathy. Things become what
Speaker 5: he calls filter bubbles or echo chambers. Most people only
Speaker 5: have time to look at what their algorithm feeds them.
Speaker 5: So it's like, it's not like we have a newspaper
Speaker 5: where everybody can open it up and read the same
Speaker 5: thing and then we can make our decisions and judgments
Speaker 5: based on that.
Speaker 7: That's how I'm saying. But there's a superiority to print
Speaker 7: word only because all the social media has developed the
Speaker 7: infinite scroll feed right, So it's not fixed. Books are fixed.
Speaker 7: That's why you learn and you retain it and you
Speaker 7: make notes, and it's fixed. It stays there, and the
Speaker 7: infinity scroll it goes away.
Speaker 5: So they only have time to look at the algorithm
Speaker 5: is algorithm is feeding them. People's worldview is distorted and
Speaker 5: their view of others is diminished. Your version of the
Speaker 5: world is invisible to people who misunderstand you, and vice versa.
Speaker 5: So this goes into uh, I told you I'm the
Speaker 5: arty one.
Speaker 7: The friend who's the arty one? Amanda, the one that
Speaker 7: was in these are the mean girls, Rachel McAdams, whoever
Speaker 7: she is in Amanda seaffret.
Speaker 5: She was the girl from the waiting comedy that we
Speaker 5: watch what the caterers caterers?
Speaker 7: Yea party down?
Speaker 5: Yes, So the girl and Party Down is also in
Speaker 5: Mean Girls. But she's not in any of these pictures.
Speaker 7: Oh the Jewish girl.
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, that's me.
Speaker 7: Then you're not Jewish girl.
Speaker 5: No, but I don't fit in with any of these people.
Speaker 7: I forgot this.
Speaker 5: I don't care to.
Speaker 7: I've gout. She was in it. Yeah, Lizzie, Lizzie something,
Speaker 7: she's Lizzie kaplan If she's funny in Party down't.
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 7: Social media distriy lesbian?
Speaker 5: She's not lisbian?
Speaker 7: Yeah she was, wasn't She thought.
Speaker 5: She was just artistic?
Speaker 7: I think les go ahead.
Speaker 5: Have you ever heard a theory of mind?
Speaker 7: I mean, in philosophy, there's theory of mind.
Speaker 5: Sure, well, I mean in this context, it is being
Speaker 5: able to empathize or you know, walk a mile in
Speaker 5: someone else's shoes hypothetically, or try and understand where they're
Speaker 5: coming from or why they would say the things that
Speaker 5: they're saying. So he's saying social media robs you of
Speaker 5: being able to do that. Number seven, social media is
Speaker 5: making you want to happy because the negative emotions are
Speaker 5: utilized more readily. Of course, the system is going to
Speaker 5: find a way to make you feel bad, and bummer
Speaker 5: makes you feel judged in an arbitrary competition to no
Speaker 5: higher purpose.
Speaker 7: Right, she was the lesbian?
Speaker 5: Oh she is Leslian I didn't.
Speaker 7: Jamie didn't mean that she loves me.
Speaker 5: I just meant the one that doesn't want to fit in.
Speaker 7: I know, you're the outcast. You're you're the female version
Speaker 7: of Lloyd Dobbler, Okay, because Lloyd Dobbler doesn't fit in.
Speaker 5: Which everyone was homeschooled and doesn't give a crap about
Speaker 5: being popular.
Speaker 7: So you're saying you're a Jewish cabalistic sorceress exactly. Okay,
Speaker 7: So go ahead with the Lanier's conclusions here. Would you
Speaker 7: recommend this book?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and it's a really short read. And if
Speaker 5: you want to go through the whole thing with me
Speaker 5: and Ruckus, I know we're kind of rush right now,
Speaker 5: but we did it on my channel pull up. Okay.
Speaker 5: So yeah, just to sum up summer seven, eight, nine,
Speaker 5: and ten, is that the constant comparisons to people are
Speaker 5: causing you anxiety. And this is even before like Instagram
Speaker 5: and all that blew up and just growing up trying
Speaker 5: to get the most likes and shares and thumbs and
Speaker 5: hearts and retweets and all of this stuff is really
Speaker 5: damaging to your development as a person, especially if you're
Speaker 5: a young person.
Speaker 7: Well, and it's also destroying everyone's attention span so that
Speaker 7: they can't actually read a book. That's what that girl
Speaker 7: from TikTok was saying, was that she realized that not
Speaker 7: only could you not read a book, she couldn't watch
Speaker 7: a movie. Oh yeah, you didn't have the attention watch
Speaker 7: a movie.
Speaker 5: I feel like I've accomplished something if I watch a
Speaker 5: movie without looking at my phone. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 5: still read a lot, but the phone's right next to me,
Speaker 5: and I'm almost like, don't look at it. So number eight.
Speaker 5: Social media doesn't want you to have economic dignity. It
Speaker 5: promotes the gig economy not the best route to financial security.
Speaker 5: Not that there's anything wrong with having gigs or side
Speaker 5: hustles or whatever, but it's not like financially stable way
Speaker 5: to run your life on gigs.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: Tech hippies from the nineties, he said, they were almost religious,
Speaker 5: focused on making everything free. We were talking about that
Speaker 5: before rapid growth. But also makes people into part time
Speaker 5: lab rats. Ad makes them free, but you are the
Speaker 5: product the advertising morphed into mass behavior modification. He talks
Speaker 5: about social media makes politics impossible, because he said it
Speaker 5: used to be thought that once the country went democratic,
Speaker 5: it would stay that way. But we're seeing that that
Speaker 5: is not true. Something is drawing young people away from democracy.
Speaker 5: He talks about how social media can be a deadly
Speaker 5: weapon and ship posts can lead to revolutions. So that's
Speaker 5: where we get the whole member Arab Spring and the
Speaker 5: Color Revolution. So that was all facilitated in.
Speaker 7: Part by social media.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see.
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Speaker 5: So the politicians that take on the bummer attitude of
Speaker 5: being an asshole are also outpacing, outpacing well meaning people
Speaker 5: because they get more attention, obviously. And then number ten
Speaker 5: social media hates your soul. He says, it hinders your
Speaker 5: ability to know the world and the truth. It cages
Speaker 5: you in a new spiritual framework. It's usurps your free will.
Speaker 5: So he has all of these instances where he is like,
Speaker 5: it is replacing your faith, it's becoming a religion. Then
Speaker 5: he talks about AI and the Silicon Valley people.
Speaker 7: This is the key point was that the conclusion of
Speaker 7: the book is that in Silicon Valley, they've already, according
Speaker 7: to him, come up with the idea that they will
Speaker 7: essentially create a pseudo religion around this.
Speaker 5: Here's the crux of it. One of the reasons that
Speaker 5: Bummer works the way it does is that engineers working
Speaker 5: at Bumber companies often believe that their top priority, and
Speaker 5: among top priorities, isn't serving present day humans, but building
Speaker 5: the artificial intelligence that will inherit the earth. The constant
Speaker 5: surveillance and testing of behavior modification in multitudes of humans
Speaker 5: is supposedly gathering data that will evolve into the intelligence
Speaker 5: of future AIS. One might wonder if AI engineers believe
Speaker 5: that manipulating people will be AI's purpose. The big tech
Speaker 5: company are publicly committed to extravagant AI race. This is
Speaker 5: Project Stargate now that they often prioritize above all else.
Speaker 5: It's completely normal to hear an exec from one of
Speaker 5: the biggest companies in the world talk about the possibility
Speaker 5: of a coming singularity when AIS will take over. This
Speaker 5: is like at the very last pages of the book.
Speaker 5: So he saved all of this bombshell for like the
Speaker 5: last chapter in the last afterward talking about how Silicon
Speaker 5: Valley worships AI and what I did. I just read
Speaker 5: that all of the social media is to facilitate when
Speaker 5: AI will inherit the earth.
Speaker 7: There is a NATO document that I've shared many times
Speaker 7: about that trolling would be used and how it's used
Speaker 7: even in psyops. So to theocracy enjoyer who's asking the
Speaker 7: question the chat, how is ship posting psyops and how
Speaker 7: could it spur a revolution? Let me see if I
Speaker 7: can find that k troll armies troll.
Speaker 17: Sometimes sometimes this works better than actually, oh I found it.
Speaker 7: There we go, can't believe I found this? Okay, let
Speaker 7: me re share this and then we'll see it over here.
Speaker 7: You want to read that you can't see that the
Speaker 7: role of emotions in the digital realm would allows the
Speaker 7: digital industries and their customers to dominic distinguish individual's crowd,
Speaker 7: and redefine personalization. At it talks about social media becoming
Speaker 7: perfect for polarization and the more anger spreads, the more
Speaker 7: users susceptable becoming trolls. And this is talking about the
Speaker 7: effect that social media has on emotions. And this is
Speaker 7: from the NATO Cognitive Warfare psyops document that I've lectured
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Speaker 7: guys so much. A lot of fun tonight, and be
Speaker 7: sure and followed Jamie around her channel and her show
Speaker 7: is linked. Her channel is linked and you can go
Speaker 7: to her longer presentation. What we talked about tonight with
Speaker 7: Ruckus and what is this?
Speaker 5: It was just something I drew, uh, because I notice
Speaker 5: everybody just getting into fights over crazy stuff on social
Speaker 5: media all the time and getting upset at the wrong thing.
Speaker 5: So I just kind of drew a chart about what
Speaker 5: is the problem, and so at the top I put
Speaker 5: you know, Satan, because everybody is like, oh, it's the Jews,
Speaker 5: it's the Hamas, it's Maga, it's feminist whatever. That would
Speaker 5: be in the green section. Everybody you hate and you
Speaker 5: think is the problem, is really.
Speaker 7: Down here in the middle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so the real problem is Satan or Lucifer, right,
Speaker 5: the evil one, and then the demons, principalities fallen, angels
Speaker 5: or aliens. And then in the blue you have humans
Speaker 5: who have knowingly aligned with the devil. These are the
Speaker 5: demons possessed. These are the secret societies. You don't see
Speaker 5: much of them. These are the bloodlines right behind the shadows.
Speaker 5: These are your cabal and they control the people who
Speaker 5: are visible to you to hate. This is your cults,
Speaker 5: your false teachers, your con men, your gurus, your you know,
Speaker 5: white men, the liberals, whatever you think is the problem.
Speaker 5: And these people influence the orange, which is everybody else,
Speaker 5: most of humanity living on autopilot or survival, your NPCs,
Speaker 5: your non activists, your normies or your sims. Right, this
Speaker 5: is like most people. Okay, this is like Uncle Bob.
Speaker 5: And then at the bottom is you yourself. So in
Speaker 5: you know, our worldview. The problem is you You don't
Speaker 5: attack the middle of the pyramid, the green. You bypass
Speaker 5: all of the it is and attack Satan. But the
Speaker 5: only way you can do that is working on the
Speaker 5: evil within you and being humble, and this is the
Speaker 5: part we never stop doing, so we don't are trying
Speaker 5: to attack the orange and the green levels.
Speaker 7: One of the ways key ways to do that in
Speaker 7: our day is to either get off of social media
Speaker 7: or completely severely limit yes, your exposure to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah and uh yeah, if you want the whole full
Speaker 5: breakdown with me and Ruckus, that is over on my channel.
Speaker 5: And I also got the members section set up on
Speaker 5: my channel and there's about four or five videos up already.
Speaker 5: So go take a look at Defense
Speaker 7: Against the Dark Arts, go join Jamie's channel to become
Speaker 7: a member, and everybody, have a good night.