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Speaker 7: The All right, what's up? Welcome everybody. It's that time,

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and I've got good news, amazing news. News that we

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are crossing our fingers remains good news. I think I

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have all the tech problems resolved. Can you believe it?

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Speaker 5: Did Gronk help you?

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Speaker 7: Gronk helped a little bit, and the other part was

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just a little bit of stick to itiveness, a little

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bit of, as the members say, gumption. I pulled myself

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up by my bootstraps, and I made myself hook all

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of this stuff up. So everything's new except for the

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mommy vice vibes or not new. But everything else in

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here is new. There's new Max, there's new things, new camera,

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next I'm going to fix the lighting because the lighting

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is still funky. Can y'all hear me? Are we good?

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We should be like full on fancy style. You know

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you can see my black heads, right yeah?

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Speaker 5: Put some donuts for me in the chat if you

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can see and hear.

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Speaker 7: God, put some donuts for Jamie. And the only difference

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is now we'll be looking over here to this side

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a little bit for clips and stuff. So when we

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talk about this wook man over here, he's a wook,

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but he's a good wook, This white Trustafarian man who

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told us the truth in twenty eighteen, guess what Jamie

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read his book. I keep calling him Jason Lanier, but

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he's Jirn. He named Jaron Lanier.

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Speaker 5: If it's a white dude with dreadlocks, you know it's

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got to be some crunchy truths being dropped.

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Speaker 7: Dude said, I was in eight K, We're in eight

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We are in eight K full definition overnight, y'all going

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to see my boogers tonight. We got what got what?

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Speaker 5: Ten arguments for deleting your social media accounts right now?

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So we just did on my channel a show with Ruckus.

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Speaker 7: What'd y'all talk about this.

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Speaker 5: Book, and we talked about that show Adolescence, and then

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I had Courtney Turner on and we were talking about

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Game B and the Dark Enlightenment. So that's all the

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technocraft stuff.

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Speaker 7: You're gonna tell me about Game B here in a minute, which.

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Speaker 5: Is Game B for Beta mail Game Beta.

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Speaker 7: That's good. Show everybody the book. So let's see the book.

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Did you already show it? Okay? The book is ten

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arguments for deleting your social media accounts. Now, don't everybody

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in my audience do this, because then I won't have

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no followers, we won't have no paypig.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 7: But the principles here are going to be correct, because

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it's how you control and manage your social media that's

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the real issue. And it's meant to be addictive, and

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that's what we're gonna talk about. And everybody knows some

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of the stuff. But it turns out Jason Lanier was

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saying stuff about AI and about the addictiveness way ahead

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of everybody else. And he was even saying that we're

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gonna be ruled by algorithms, we're gonna control by this,

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and it's all kind of a Silicon Valley tech cult facade,

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bones and the grit and the grits of it. And

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we're also gonna watch some clips from the recent Peter

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Thiel interview that has taken the Internet by storm. But

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I'm just so excited about this fancy internets that we

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Speaker 5: Everything you can't see is new, so it looks the

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same to y'all.

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Speaker 7: I'm turning into a tech man. I'm turning into a

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story man. You see my funk gova. Do you want

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to fleetion Frogger with me?

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Speaker 1: I got an.

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Speaker 2: It's a It's an emulator on a computer.

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Speaker 8: We can play Frogger.

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Speaker 7: I'm turning into a soy man. You Jamie doesn't want

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to play. We have a pop of us husband and

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Speaker 5: You got married to one.

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Speaker 7: I got married to fun Well. We have a dedicated

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I've shown you guys this, But I mean, I'm just

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happy that we got all the Internet stuff is solved.

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No more whining from the audience, no more boomer jokes

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from the audience. You can't call me boomer anymore. You

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can't say anything bad because I put all the money,

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all the money everything, I'm just jugging, not really everything.

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I sold my soul just to have mac Os with

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Speaker 5: Does that mean we're gonna get more smarter?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Can you imagine? Look at how smooth we're moving. We're

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not swimming in a sea of pixels. We're swimming in

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a sea of sixty frames per second. I think I

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think I have it on sixty.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: So the whole night with with Grock making all this

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nerd work, all this tech stuff, I hate it. I

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hate this nerd shit. Man, I'm sick of it. We

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got a super chat right away from Coolbert Kuta says,

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the worship of Yakub makes us all brothers of Catholics.

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this theology is developing. So I believe in development of theology,

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development of doctrine, and it's moving in the right direction.

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Constructions on five dollars, yaka Ono said the inscriptions on

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the Georgia guidestones were a string car tal ration. I

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thinking that was my impression of you. I don't know

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how she talks, but I'm assuming it's something like that,

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but a's Brossie five dollars. That old head Roman Catholic

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from the debate said that your neon flamingo was a

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little skittles. Meanwhile, he had like a giant like rainbow

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banner behind him. This is Miami vice dude. I don't

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care what they like. They're the ones that are legit gay.

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This is who thinks, uh, Sonny Kroc is gay? Dude, No,

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he's straight up legit. That's the vibe. They're absolutely boomer

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That sign is your most redeeming quality. Well, I mean

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it's this Mimmi vice dude, Like, who has a problem

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with that? By the way, that's like a Boomer era

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show Boomer Jenac show Mason ten dollars. This is completely

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unrelated to the video. But CPS is trying to take

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my daughter. Oh oh, I wish there's any way that

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I could receive help from the community. It would be

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greatly appreciated. Well, I don't know what that could do

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or what we could do. Man, we don't know you,

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but we'll definitely pray for it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, pray for that. That's a terrible that's the worst

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nightmare scenario.

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Speaker 7: I feel like it's a real like like I'm in

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some kind of an almost real studio with this fake

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ass plant and with this and with you and then

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the mic in the middle. It feels like, I don't know,

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like I'm on a you know, Conan O'Brien nighttime show set.

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Speaker 5: When we upgrade, I was thinking we could make it like.

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Speaker 7: This is the up us, this is the upgrade.

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Speaker 5: We upgrade again again. Yeah, and we like get a

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proper studio background. Well, I like our homemade aesthetic. I

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even made you a homemade chart.

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Speaker 7: We've got a chart to help out, help understand what

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Do you want to do a Peter Thiel clip first

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or do you want to do the chart or what?

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This is your information? So I'm gonna chime in with

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my information.

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Speaker 5: Are you more interested in game be uh Dark Enlightenment

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or drown or Peter Thiel?

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Speaker 7: Why don't we start with something that I don't know about? Uh,

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that is Game B. So tell us about Game B.

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We're gonna learn some stuff.

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Speaker 5: So that is Courtney's expertise. So I had her on

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my show and the show is called Game B in

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the Dark Enlightenment. So Basically it was.

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Speaker 7: Do you got some game B?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: And what's not? Byes? We still have a friend or

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high school and his whole thing. He always said, hey,

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what's not be watch not B? So that makes me

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think of like Adam from high school, Dude, what's that

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Speaker 5: So this is all about building network states and linked

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up with projects Stargate and the idea of freedom cities

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or corporate city states that are like run like a company.

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Speaker 7: So you mean like giant city states Megalopolis, Yes, AI

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Speaker 5: Movie right, and in order to make these come about,

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there's gonna have to be social unrest, there's gonna have

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to cataclysms, there's gonna be a great reset and the

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people to watch doing this. Game B one is named

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Jordan Hall, who actually converted to Christianity not long ago.

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Speaker 7: So do we think he's a real convert?

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Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing. It's like they're kind of using

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structures that are already in place.

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Speaker 7: So they might want to take over the institutions. Yes,

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so they institutional capture.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they call that the what do they call it?

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Not the palace, the cathedral. Yes, the cathedral.

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Speaker 7: There you go, so well, I agree with this analogy though.

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The cathedral is a perfect analogy for the modern nonsense

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Speaker 5: So they start speaking in like Christianese or like new

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age Christian or christ consciousness, and that's where you get

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the new people that convert their kind of sus. I

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don't want to name names, but we can all think

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of one, right, two. And what they want to do

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is destroy the constitution and replace it with a president

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that is like a.

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Speaker 7: CEO or king, so a tech Nietzschean uber minh philosopher

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king bro. Yeah, because democracy is bad. So democracies have

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failed experience, right, and I agree. But here's the thing is,

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like they they want to take the thing that's a problem,

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a legitimate problem, and then give their solution, which is

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just technocracy.

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Speaker 5: And so this goes back to Plato's utopia, and the

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technocrats and the programmers are going to be the new

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priests class of the AI that we have to go

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through to get to know the protected deity of AI.

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Speaker 7: It's a deus ex machina, a god from within the system.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and so they've been kind of trying to chip

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away in the last maybe like fifteen years at certain

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things like amendments and Bill of Rights and stuff like that.

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women like maybe ten years ago or more in an

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article called the Education of Libertarian Education of a Libertarian Right.

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Speaker 7: And their argument is that because women are the major

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support base of the Democratic Party in the left, that

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if there could be some future removal of the vote

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achieve this apart from society collapsing. So it could tie

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into accelerationism. I'm not saying that Peter Thiel and Curtis

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Jarvin or these people are necessarily accelerationists. I'm not exactly

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sure what their positions are, but it could lead to

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that if you came to the conclusion that the only

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Speaker 5: No, it's not based. It's just trying to knock down

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all the pieces so they can set it up the

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like equalitarian equalitarianism is bad or democracy is bad, their

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solution is that it's going to be a giant ai

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carbon tax control system. That's the problem.

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Speaker 5: So and these people, let's just talk about this for

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a second. Their idea are not really grounded in reality.

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Lord of the Rings, that's where Palenteer comes from is

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the all seeing eye, and Lord of the Rings is

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like the palaeer stone.

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we don't spend too much time in the life.

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to turn it into something Nietzschean. So rather than it

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being that, you know, the idea of being connected to

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the virtues, this is removing the themes and the archetypes

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of Western civilization and making it not about virtue versus

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vice and the good and what is the good. It's

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rather taking those archetypes and memes and patterns and making

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them about the ubermensch and the philosopher king or the

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tech oligarch. So you become the hero of your own

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fans to see as the you know, reigning oligarch. That's

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the problem with it. It's a misappropriation of those familiar

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patterns and archetypes. But the leftists do the same thing

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with archetypes and patterns and stories, which is what we're

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presently living through. For example, they rewrite the stories and

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appropriate them to leftist myths of egalitarianism, and all of

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the old movies have to be redone with having women

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as the hero and the archetype, and the warrior that's

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not the warrior. So I mean, the woman is not

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the warrior archetype. She is the feminine archetypes. She's the

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one that's the princess that the hero saves. And they

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want to reverse that in the leftist mythos, to create

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a new mythology to convert everybody to the leftist cathedral paradigm.

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but they're taking those archetypes and patterns, they're applying it

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to themselves as essentially the first player characters in their

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own fantasy.

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Speaker 5: World, and they believe in metaphysical things. They believe in

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magic and stuff. Let's talk about the Cybernetic Culture Research

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Unit for a second, because connected to Peter Teele is

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also Curtis Jarvin and a guy named Nick Land.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, well, and our buddies at Senna have interviewed

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Speaker 5: So he is from this thing called the Cybernetic Culture

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Research Unit, which was like if mss Calendar from Buffy

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the Vampire Slayers started a club.

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Speaker 7: But they don't know these references.

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Speaker 5: So technopaganism basically. So she was a feminist who thought,

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how can we use this new theme call the Internet

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to help equality? And they just were using all kinds

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of Yeah.

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Speaker 7: The early phase of like nineties era punks, cipher punks,

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anarcho capitalists, cyber pagans. They had this very equalitarian fantasy.

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like Steve Jobs Andsniak from Apple, Like they believed that

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when the personal computer came out, it would be this

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great liberating thing that would essentially destroy all the existing institutions.

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it's not going to do that for making everybody equal

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and making everything fair. It's potentially the technocracy. If you

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remember that old Apple ad from when the PC first

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comes out, the matt first came out, it's nineteen eighty four.

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Do you remember the ad and.

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Speaker 5: Did something costs six hundred and sixty six dollars?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the first the first magnet, but it was supposed

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to be this thing, hence the symbol of the bitten

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apple right the Garden of Eden, So it's supposed to

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be this liberating.

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Speaker 5: Thing, which in the biography of Steve Jobs they said

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that the bitten apple came from snow white, so it's poisonous.

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Speaker 7: Interesting. Yeah, and also it might have a reference. I'm

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not sure, but it might. I've just heard this. I

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haven't looked into Steve Jobs that much, but might have

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a reference to LSD too, because he was a pioneer

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microdoser and a lot of the Silicon Valley people microdose

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because they think, you know, it's kind of given them

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inspiration and creativity and ideas, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: Well, that goes along with this. It's the CCRU Cybernetic

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Culture Research Unit, So it's like where we get the

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ideas of like cyberpunk and gothic horror, critical theory, esotericism,

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numerology and demonology a all mixed up in technology. And

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this is the c are you yes? The group that

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Nick Land was a part of it was a.

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Speaker 1: Bad moon Ragian.

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Speaker 7: Literally from the tech Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, well you just made me think of Hideline because

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the moon is a harsh mistress and that's all about

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like breakaway civilizations on the moon anyways. Uh so they

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were for the experimental technoscience of self fulfilling prophecies, where

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the means whereby the means of esoteric cybernetic principles, certain

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ideas and beliefs that are initially income comprehensible can covertly

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circulate back through reality. So like how Donald Trump got

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elected the first time with the memoirs and and Kech

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and Pepe and stuff like that. So this is the

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kind of stuff they'd be studying, like how these butterfly effects.

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Speaker 7: Would well some of these Yeah, and that makes sense

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because some of these companies come out of in q Tel,

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which was a CIA cutout for funding venture capital firms.

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And that's what creates Pallunteer, That's what creates I want

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to say, even like Facebook and ns Facebook and Twitter

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even come out of this as well as sort of

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experiments of deep state and CIA venture capitals or venture

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capital firms. And so that's why you would get this

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direct connection between the GCHQ, which is the British version

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of the NSA. They were studying meme magic literally in

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the twenty and twenty tens. I'm not saying that that's

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the GCHQ got Trump elected. I'm not saying that they didn't.

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They didn't want Trump at all. But the idea that

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you can study the patterns of putting memes out and

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then affect the mass consciousness, which is connected to like union,

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archetypes and all that kind of stuff is absolutely studied

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by these tech nerds at a very serious high level and.

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Speaker 5: ISAA wisehep did a good like five or six part

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breakdown of dark Enlightenment and he also had Courtney on

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and they were talking about how this also ties into

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super dark stuff like dark web and the stuff that

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b X talks about.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the Satanic groups. Yes, Now wait a minute, so

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what was the CC one more time? What was that?

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And didn't you said they had something to do with

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feminists too, like radical feminists?

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Speaker 5: But well no, the one of the founders, the lady

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I think her name is Sadie something, and so.

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Speaker 7: She was Sexy Sadie yep.

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Speaker 5: From the Beatles, and she was trying to do research

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on how the open software and stuff of the Internet

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because back then when they were developing these things, it

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was kind of like a revolution to them that they

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thought all of this stuff was gonna be free, right,

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information is.

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Speaker 7: Free now freewhere.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's going to free us up. And we're gonna

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have so much time and technology and now that we

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can share information, like we're just going to go leaps

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and bounce in civilization. And so she was studying like

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how can this help equality between the sexes at the

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same time, but then it kind of got taken over

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by these other people and went down a very like

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esoteric path, like I think even Nick Land talks about

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Kabala and so their technologicians will.

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Speaker 7: Have to go listen to Yeah, the Centement interviews with

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Nick Land, because I don't I relisted to it at

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the time, but it was about two years ago, and

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I don't remember what they talked about, but I know

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they talked about like obviously psyops in film, but in

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pop culture. But we'll have to listen to that.

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Speaker 5: So all these people do not believe that freedom and

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democracy are compatible anymore, and that I would agree with

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that basically.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean even Plato and Socrates argued that democracies

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become tyrannies.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because a true democracy is still.

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Speaker 7: Susceptible to corruption and Well, the reason that it becomes

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a tyranny, according to them, is that whoever's in power

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wants to appeal to the largest number, and to do

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that you have to have the lowest calm denominator. So

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it becomes a race to the bottom to be the

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controlling oligarch ask glob of people who are ruled by

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their passions and not by their reasoning, or by their

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self control, or by Christianity or virtues. So it becomes

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beneficial to the oligarch to promote base things, to debase

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the population so that he has a broader control of

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the mass. That's the inevitable course of equalitarianism and democracy,

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according to Plato Socrates, and I think that's true.

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Speaker 5: We just picked up that old book about subliminal messaging,

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and so they're taking all these techniques like Freud Brene's

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propaganda subliminal messages.

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Speaker 7: That's your audience, I know what I'm trying to think of.

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You could look to me for permission to see if

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what you're saying is correct. That's that's cool. That's why

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you're not a feminist. You're you're bouncing the eye is

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off of your lovely man.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's easier to talk to a person than Michige.

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Speaker 7: Those are all the people. Look they're real, look at them.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 5: But it's just like a little contraption.

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Speaker 7: We're talking to How nine thousand, it's a little a

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little red eye in there. Dreamy dreamy number one? How

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starts going slow? These batteries a wear?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, where are we at? So we talk

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about tm B. We talked about the technofagan does tell

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me about dark enlightenment?

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Speaker 1: That is.

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Speaker 5: I mean, what is happening. It's the talking about being

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a corporation instead of a country run by the CEO king,

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lot of surveillance, obviously, a lot of robots, a lot

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of robotoids.

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Speaker 7: So who pioneers this idea about the robots, no, the

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dark enlightenment? Who came up with this term? Who says this?

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This is Nick Land? And then the idea of that

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is what not just technocracy, but what specifically.

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Speaker 1: Just the.

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Speaker 5: Bringing the new revolution of technology? And so they're talking

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about life extension and that's what we're going to talk

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about when we pull up the Peter Teal clips. So

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they're replacing religion.

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Speaker 7: Is the dark enlightenment that democracy has done? And we

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need a tech uber manage.

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Speaker 5: Yes, well, people can't govern themselves. So it's like every

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form of government has failed throughout history and including this one.

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Speaker 7: So we need a new computer thing.

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Speaker 5: Yes, so it has to be something above humans.

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Speaker 7: I want my mac to run my life, right, and

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man kind of needs to be run by a mac.

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Speaker 5: We're not smart enough to do it.

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Speaker 7: It's a return of the mac. But not Mark Morrison.

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Speaker 5: Right, yes, come on, oh yeah. But it also resembles

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a lot of things that Alshra Crole would talk about

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in his Utoken Society. So he got liber Oz that

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talks about the very stratified civilization where you have your

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technocrat magicians and then you have your servants who don't understand.

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in liber Oz.

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Speaker 7: I remember that that's important because Crowley had a very

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similar ideology to a lot of these tech oligarchs, and

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I think that's why many of them have found also

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some degree of overlap and fascination with Croley. I can't

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think of any that are explicitly Crollian. But one thing

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that you started looking into, which I talked about a

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year ago, I did a podcast some of this about

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a year ago or maybe two. Is the guy Peter

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Carroll who's actually if Crowley is the grandfather of Satanism

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modern Satanism, Peter Carroll is actually the father of modern

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Satanism because he's the father of cyber magic and chaos magic.

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sphere are also influenced by Peter Carroll Andy tech magic.

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it was Wired maybe ten years ago. There was an

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article talking about how at burning Man, when the Silicon

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Valley elite come, they have their own private burning Man

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that is a quote secret society that engages in rituals

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whereby they think that through ayahuasca, peot LSD, they're tapping

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into the forces that are going to help them erect

477
00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:02,599
the technocracy. There was a huge Wired ride up. Some

478
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:05,360
former friends of ours put it in one of their documentaries,

479
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,480
so I remember reading it.

480
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Speaker 5: Someone said, what about Anton Levey and yeah, that plays

481
00:35:10,039 --> 00:35:14,159
into this too, because he thought that androids were going

482
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,679
to be the next car.

483
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 7: Basically, yea sex bots is like the new car.

484
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone's gonna have robot companions.

485
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,079
Speaker 7: He was you talking about a model t I'm talking

486
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:29,480
about a model TNA. Baby.

487
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 5: That's really good.

488
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:35,639
Speaker 7: I'm pretty good with Wordsmithery. By the way, did you

489
00:35:35,679 --> 00:35:37,159
watch the new sam Hi Boomers?

490
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Well, Peter Till doesn't like boomers either, So hey,

491
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,440
I'm starting to like Peter Till.

492
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 7: Now we can just we can both be skittles men

493
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:50,079
on his floating tech island. I'm joking. Go ahead, well.

494
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Speaker 5: So yeah, Silicon Valley is.

495
00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:58,079
Speaker 7: Really big on Silicon Uncanny Valley. Right, that's a podcast

496
00:35:58,079 --> 00:35:59,000
title for you right there.

497
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 5: They are big on social Darwinism, yes, and uh, mysticism,

498
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,800
like you would think it's just nerds in math, but

499
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,199
it's not.

500
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Speaker 7: It's no, it's did you hear what I was saying

501
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,880
about the Burning Man thing? When two minutes ago Burning

502
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,679
Man the cult? Don't you remember when Aaron and Melissa

503
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,920
had a whole thing in the in their documentary about

504
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,400
the guy. The Silicon Valley elite that go to Burning

505
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,559
Man have their own private, secret society where they do

506
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:35,559
ayahuasca and tap into the gods.

507
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Speaker 5: Well, and that makes sense because it's like Wickerman. It's

508
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,039
kind of.

509
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 7: Wickerman it's a it's a an American corporate, pseudo fake

510
00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:47,760
counterculture version of Wickerman.

511
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:57,599
Speaker 5: And these guys, well, they're also very interested in the

512
00:36:57,639 --> 00:37:02,159
life extension. And then he was looking into companies that

513
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,159
could do blood transfusions.

514
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,599
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I remember when Peter till was talking about

515
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:09,800
getting youth blood put into you. I remember that, and

516
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:11,519
it was the same time that it came out the

517
00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:19,000
Kim Kardashian was getting vampire facial vampire facials. And when

518
00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:21,960
I was on with Elijah, we were talking about Peter

519
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:24,440
Teel and I read the section in his book zero

520
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,000
to one where he talks about Pallenteer basically just creating

521
00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:31,199
all the tracking identification software for the CIA and the NSA.

522
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,760
And we wouldn't have had been Lauden taken down if

523
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,320
we'd not had Vallaunteer finding bin Laden. That's what's in

524
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,639
the book. But also there's a section where he talks

525
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:41,480
about cryogenics.

526
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Speaker 5: And this is going to uh.

527
00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 7: Is that where you're going to the cryogenics part.

528
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:49,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, the life extension when he talks about Christianity and

529
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:53,760
stuff and transhumanism. But I just wanted to mention that

530
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,440
this is going to be tied into currencies too, and

531
00:37:56,639 --> 00:38:03,480
like different maybe cryptocurrencies or like a centralized cryptois.

532
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is all connected to the idea of having

533
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,239
a CBDC, which is not Bitcoin, by the way, but

534
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,280
a central bank digital currency which is in some way

535
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,360
tracked and traced. It's connected to UBI. So the idea

536
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,119
is that the technocracy will actually free you from even

537
00:38:18,159 --> 00:38:21,519
having to work. So there's this Marxist socialist element that's

538
00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:25,199
part of it utopian ideas. And then when you're free

539
00:38:25,199 --> 00:38:27,400
from work, you can supposedly just you know, live in

540
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,719
your coompod and your goon pod and you know, have

541
00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:34,079
sex with bronies all day long or whatever, dragons, whatever

542
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:36,280
does you do when you don't have anything to do,

543
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,320
And that's what's being offered. But if you remember the

544
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,599
Bill Joy essay that we've lectured through, which is one

545
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:48,280
of the key elite texts why the future doesn't need us,

546
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:51,039
Bill Joy was saying that when they were having these

547
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:55,840
big deepop tech meetings, they were saying back in two

548
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,159
thousand that we've already made the decision to get rid

549
00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:03,000
of the people. In other words, we're not going to

550
00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:07,840
create some sort of com pod utopian fantasy we're just

551
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,880
gonna get rid of you. Yeah, that's the purpose of

552
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,199
that famous essay alex Is talking about it for twenty years.

553
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,599
Speaker 5: You'll just be recycled into the mother Earth again.

554
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 7: I'm imagining like convincing people to get in their goon

555
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,719
pod where they think they're going to like live in

556
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,400
the sex matrix forever, and you get in there and

557
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,199
it's just this machine that turns you into like sludge

558
00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:32,679
that then powers the AI. Yeah, the goof you turn

559
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,840
into black goo that that powers the AI. So it's

560
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,280
not like the matrix where you're like you're a battery.

561
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,320
Now you just get turned to sludge and then you're like.

562
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 5: Filtered into like the that lubricates.

563
00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 7: You're the blood. You're the black AI blood of the

564
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:53,599
borg Hive mind system. They'll be good blood.

565
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Speaker 5: Well, oh, I was just gonna say so. Peter till

566
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,519
Uh and Elon Musk created PayPal with the idea in

567
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:05,840
mind that someday they were going to have a currency

568
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,480
that replaced the dollar.

569
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, there was gonna be an E dollar. And

570
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:16,119
there's a white paper from MIT that's about the E dollar.

571
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,519
And what's super annoying about this is that everybody who

572
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:24,440
wants to debunk bitcoin. They point to this thinking that

573
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that's bitcoin. Bitcoin is the opposite of an E dollar.

574
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,840
Dollars are not attached to anything. They are fiat, they're

575
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,519
not a hard asset. So the E cash E dollar,

576
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,599
I guess conceivably could have been attached to gold if

577
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they had decided to make an E dollar that was

578
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,880
attached to gold. But there's never going to be a

579
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,079
gold standard. That's not gonna happen. So the only way

580
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:51,559
to solve the economic problem that's at least feasible is

581
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,400
what bitcoin is now. That is the answer to the dollar.

582
00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:01,320
It is not the fiat E dollar CBDC system. CBDC

583
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:07,400
competes with bitcoin. Those are competitors.

584
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:12,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's always been their dream to have a

585
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,440
website that was a social network that all your data

586
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,679
was on and that you also did your banking.

587
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Speaker 7: And that's why, that's why in q tel. According to

588
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,480
Melissa Mela in her CIA book that we've talked about,

589
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:30,360
I've cited it for ten years, she's the woman that

590
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,800
was the handler to Angelina Joe Lee when she was

591
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,679
training for her CIA studies for the movie Salt. Right

592
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,280
around the time that she becomes a member of the CFR.

593
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,679
She's studying under Melissa Mela, who wrote in her book

594
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:51,320
that in q Tel was a CIA front company to

595
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:57,000
do pallunteer Facebook, And this was all stuff that Corbett

596
00:41:57,039 --> 00:41:58,840
talked about even ten years ago.

597
00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 5: Have you seen the orbs?

598
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 7: Let's not bring Sam Chaman into this.

599
00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:10,039
Speaker 5: It's like the orbs that not Shimun's orbs. What was that.

600
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,199
Speaker 7: Movie the orbs? What you're talking about? You talking about?

601
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:21,119
You're talking about Lord of the Rings with no hold on.

602
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:23,079
Don't be looking inside them orbs?

603
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 5: What's that movie?

604
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 7: Crazy?

605
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 5: The Mustard Blood and the orbs that flare around and

606
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,119
kill you.

607
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 7: Yes, Mustard Blood. I knew immediately she was talking about

608
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:41,199
Phantasm boy, Cleer boy. Phantasm is great.

609
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,079
Speaker 5: You can't find the orbs?

610
00:42:44,639 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 7: Well, I was gonna pull up, Oh.

611
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, Sam Altman's World orbs your.

612
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,519
Speaker 7: Oh okay, yeah, I know you're talking about.

613
00:42:54,880 --> 00:43:00,199
Speaker 5: Okay, Sam Altman's World Orbs come to the US. Yes,

614
00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:03,000
now I don't. He's the one I know least about.

615
00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:04,000
Do you know anything about him?

616
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 7: Well, he's like Elon's nemesis because they started to open

617
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,800
Aye and Elon supposedly says keep it open and then

618
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,039
sam Altman made it a billion, multi billion dollar company.

619
00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 5: Oh, I think it's so funny how Trump is like, boy,

620
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:28,760
there's the phantasm orb and now look up sam Altman's orbs.

621
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:35,400
I think it's so funny how Trump is like triangulating

622
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,840
all these technocrats to get uh them to fight over

623
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,519
his attention? Who President Trump?

624
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 7: What is this things supposed to be?

625
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 5: I don't know, an I it's man made horrors beyond

626
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:51,440
our company.

627
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 7: What is it? Is it like? Is it like Alexa

628
00:43:56,559 --> 00:43:56,920
or something?

629
00:43:59,320 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 5: I don't know what.

630
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,519
Speaker 7: I looked into sam Altman's ORB and all I got

631
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:10,159
was lousy crypto. Oh this is connected to his orb

632
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,840
coin that was supposed to be like the global coin

633
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,000
that I think. I think this failed. I don't I

634
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,800
don't remember much about this, but yeah.

635
00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 9: Yeah do.

636
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,119
Speaker 7: Why don't you ask the ais? They would be the

637
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:24,239
ones that know, aren't they the aren't they the a?

638
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:26,039
The Let's ask grog.

639
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,519
Speaker 5: And see did you know Peter Tile.

640
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 7: Was hold on? Let's ask before you what is what

641
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,400
does sam Altman's ORB do.

642
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,159
Speaker 10: Sam Altman's ORB, created by his startup Tools for Humanity,

643
00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:45,760
scans your iris to verify your human not a bot.

644
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,320
It generates a unique digital code called a world I

645
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,639
D which acts like a global passport for your humanity.

646
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:57,880
Pretty wild, right, It's all about proving you're not a

647
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:58,400
bot in.

648
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 7: This digital Oh, if you're not a bot right now,

649
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,119
I can't do it. You can't. No, not without the orb,

650
00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:08,079
not without the Orb of destiny.

651
00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: Have.

652
00:45:10,119 --> 00:45:12,599
Speaker 7: I don't know whether i'd rather have some Sam Altman's

653
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,760
ORB or the orbs and phantasm that like jack into

654
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,000
your brain? Which one you want? They're both pretty, both

655
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:21,199
of them, and they're both a nightmare. Dude.

656
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 5: I don't want Sam Chumun's orbs. I don't want phantasm orbs,

657
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,880
and I don't want.

658
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,159
Speaker 7: Basically, just stay the hell away from orbs. There's nothing

659
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:33,960
really good in the ORBS sphere. There's nothing we really

660
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,800
want to be involved in all seeing. I have read

661
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:40,119
cyber not says for five dollars that he cannot handle

662
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:48,440
my chest here. I understand it's okay, uh Anti Orbuel

663
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,079
Jordan Lofgan, What kind of butter you got on that camera?

664
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:55,199
I ain't never seen nothing so smooth before. It's called

665
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:04,159
ten eighty p sixty fps with a a macOS fast

666
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,679
fancy computer. It's a fancy motherboard a cyber not ten dollars.

667
00:46:08,679 --> 00:46:10,519
Did you see the movie Thank You for Not Smoking?

668
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,320
Thank You for Smoking?

669
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Speaker 5: A long time?

670
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 7: It was executive produced by Elon and Peter Till. I

671
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,880
didn't know that. I remember hearing about that, but I've

672
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,079
not watched it. It's about the tobacco lobby in two

673
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:29,960
thousand and five. Interesting, so as soon as they got rich,

674
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,800
they were like, let's make some movies, Jo say el

675
00:46:33,039 --> 00:46:35,920
on ten dollars. The excitement of logging in is seeing

676
00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:39,360
that there is a stream of Jay and Jamie that's great,

677
00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:45,400
and that's not full of glitches and latency and skipped

678
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:50,039
frames and frozen screens. Can you believe that we achieved this?

679
00:46:50,159 --> 00:46:53,360
It only took five years to figure out how to

680
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,039
get a fancy ass Mac to make this actually run.

681
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:58,960
It only took five years. Actually, it probably took more

682
00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:02,599
because no, you know, I don't think when I was

683
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,880
from twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen, when I was streaming

684
00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:08,480
in seven twenty, I don't think I ever had these problems.

685
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:10,960
But as soon as I tried to stream in ten eighty,

686
00:47:11,039 --> 00:47:15,199
it was just five years of problems. But thanks to

687
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you guys, we have upgrade we.

688
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Speaker 11: Got an upgrade up in here, Pop Pop is popping

689
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,559
off his upgraded Jewish skeptic five dollars. Step into the water,

690
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,039
wait a little bit deeper, wete.

691
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,639
Speaker 7: Your feet in the water of his love for Baptist ms.

692
00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:34,960
Even ever you converted from Easter in Orthodoxy Judaism, is

693
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:40,719
that you or who for Orthodoxy to Judaism. Seeing Baptist

694
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,400
hymns about converting from Orthodoxy to Judaism, that's pretty wild.

695
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,239
It kind of makes sense though, because I met one time,

696
00:47:48,599 --> 00:47:52,119
one time a Baptist dude called in who was no

697
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,719
he was becoming Jewish and it was former Baptist. That

698
00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:00,280
was pretty weld. H Brozy five dollars. He's demand that

699
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,199
you acknowledge him.

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00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 5: Hello, h Browsey, five dollars.

701
00:48:04,679 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 7: Austin he acknowledged Austin Henley five bucks. All right, Stop

702
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,039
being cute, all right, stop be cute and listen. Ice

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is back with a brand new avention something a hold

704
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,280
of me tightly. It was like a harp daily and nightly.

705
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Will it ever stop? I don't know. Yes, I have

706
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:29,320
vanilla Ice tape. That's not true. That's that must be

707
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,880
a new viewer because we do half of over half

708
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,360
of the live streams over here are just nonsense and silly.

709
00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:38,599
And I'd rather be doing that than all this idiot

710
00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:43,360
anti christ Roman callit nonsense. These people are crazy. What

711
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:49,559
are we just? Vanilla Ice? I had this first, this tape, dude,

712
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:52,039
this was I thought this was so awesome when I

713
00:48:52,079 --> 00:49:03,840
got this tape, the actual Yeah, no, that's not it,

714
00:49:04,119 --> 00:49:09,480
that's not that, not the best of I want the original.

715
00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:14,320
Actually it popped up right here. This to the extreme,

716
00:49:14,519 --> 00:49:18,519
to the extreme, man. I remember when I got this thing.

717
00:49:18,679 --> 00:49:21,440
I was like, yes, this is so cool, dude, look

718
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,199
at that tape.

719
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 5: Do you think Vanilla Ice?

720
00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:28,599
Speaker 7: We were just talking about it, Jamie and I were

721
00:49:28,599 --> 00:49:31,320
talking about today. Can you believe that Vanilla Ice ended

722
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,480
up being like the most Chad and Bays of the

723
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:39,000
nineties rappers? All the other rappers ended up being faking gay,

724
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:42,000
and then Vanilla Ice ended up being like fifty million

725
00:49:42,039 --> 00:49:44,599
dollars with a bunch of cars in Miami. And everybody

726
00:49:44,639 --> 00:49:46,960
was making fun of Vanilla Ice too. After his one

727
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,440
hit Wonder in his album, everybody was making fun of

728
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,519
all the new Ice. He sucks white white, and then

729
00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:58,119
he ends up being the one that's actually straight and wealthy,

730
00:49:58,159 --> 00:49:59,679
and all the other ones like lost all their money

731
00:49:59,679 --> 00:50:02,159
their gay, except for maybe doctor Dray. He might not be.

732
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,320
He's a little weird, but I don't think he's gay.

733
00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:06,840
Do you?

734
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 5: Is he married?

735
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:08,199
Speaker 7: Yeah?

736
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 5: I don't think so.

737
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,199
Speaker 7: Our rap fans in the audience can let us know

738
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:17,280
what the latest info is on. But know Ice now

739
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,800
he's living it up in Miami with He's got nineteen ninety.

740
00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 5: His movie was funny, too cool.

741
00:50:25,679 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 7: I mean it's so bad. It's a good riff tracks. Yeah,

742
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:38,079
it's like terrible. Remember his Oh yeah, I forgot. He

743
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:42,760
had a reality show. Remember that. No, yeah, he had

744
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,320
a really show. Yeah, he was like redoing houses, flipping houses,

745
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,400
that's what he did. That's right. Like I think his

746
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:53,559
car is alone or worse most like millions and millions

747
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:57,320
of dollars anyway, But Ice is at least as far

748
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:02,679
as we know, straight and them, he's just ends up.

749
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,519
He ended up being better than like all the other

750
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:08,920
so called bad bad boy gangster rappers who were all

751
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,280
like faking gray dude.

752
00:51:10,519 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 5: Anyway, someone says Dre equals Rainbow Flags.

753
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,639
Speaker 7: Doctor doctor Gay. Hold on, I'll typing to the wrong

754
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,679
I'm getting mixed up here. I gotta type into this

755
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,199
fancy computer. I'm so used to typing into that old

756
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:32,039
ass crap computer slowly whiteboards. Here is doctor, doctor Gray,

757
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:37,039
doctor Gay. Sug Knight says, doctor, he's doctor Gay. I

758
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:38,599
don't know, man, I don't know if I can believe

759
00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:40,599
sug Knight though, because he tried to throw an ice

760
00:51:40,679 --> 00:51:42,920
off of a balcony. Dude, I don't believe him.

761
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 5: Well, was tupac skittles or well?

762
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:51,119
Speaker 7: Hold up? Talk about vindication. If sug Knight was gonna

763
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:53,559
throw vanilla ice off of a off of a balcony,

764
00:51:54,679 --> 00:51:56,800
hasn't vanilla ice come out on top of all of

765
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,400
this stuff? He's he's beating everybody. This is crazy, all right,

766
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:06,480
what's up? What did you say? I don't know, Jordan loughgrin,

767
00:52:06,519 --> 00:52:08,159
Someone get me out. Five dollars, Give me out of

768
00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:13,039
this contraption. What contraption? Oh? It meaning that he's in

769
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:14,000
this little machine.

770
00:52:14,119 --> 00:52:18,559
Speaker 5: See them. He wants to be real, he says, can

771
00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:20,559
anyone see me? Let me out of here. I want

772
00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:21,199
to be real.

773
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 7: He's inside that little black Machineum, there is anyone there?

774
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,920
Ohst of five dollars, I've never seen Jay looking so happy? Well, hey,

775
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,519
after five years of never being able to figure out

776
00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:34,480
how to solve the computer problems and spending all night

777
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:38,079
last night hooking all this crap up, literally like until

778
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:42,000
two three in the morning. Yeah, I'm happy, Mike three

779
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,840
horrifying two dollars. Do you mean doctor dre or I

780
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:54,199
think it was about the word he means, I'm making jokes.

781
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:59,920
He's talking about Jason Jaron Lannier's his dreads are horrifying.

782
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,400
Ryan Beamish five dollars talk about Ashton Forbes in the

783
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,559
MG three seventy conspiracy in the orbs. I'm not gonna

784
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:09,800
talk about that because I think it's dumb. I just

785
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:15,159
think there's no warp technology where their orbs are creating portals.

786
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:18,599
That's all. I think that's all fake. But I appreciate

787
00:53:18,639 --> 00:53:22,039
your question. Prophetic ten dollars. Do you think the future

788
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:25,840
of America will be crackers only? Or do you think

789
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,719
that other citizens have a place in this I can't

790
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:36,519
say that country without having to worry about second class citizens.

791
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,000
I don't really see any way out of fixing this country, honestly,

792
00:53:41,079 --> 00:53:42,920
so I don't know how to even even answer that.

793
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 5: I don't think America ever even could be a white

794
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:50,800
only country because it was already Okay, I don't think

795
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,480
it ever could be just because we're who's here already,

796
00:53:54,639 --> 00:53:55,400
we're cooked.

797
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:57,079
Speaker 7: So figure out how to get your big coin and

798
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,639
be ready to go out in the country. That's all.

799
00:53:59,639 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: I think.

800
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 5: It still could be a good nation, even a multi ethnic.

801
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 7: Well it's always been multi ethnic, so that's not the problem.

802
00:54:07,639 --> 00:54:11,119
But when you import like massive amounts of people from

803
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:14,639
the Third World, that's the problem. No, but we probably

804
00:54:14,679 --> 00:54:17,800
shouldn't talk about this stuff should be I mean, just

805
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,920
think about the YouTube guidelines of what you can and

806
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:21,559
can't say.

807
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,119
Speaker 5: I would just say, like there's a difference between somewhere

808
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,119
like Ireland and some are like America, Like, yes, Ireland,

809
00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:35,119
I think it could be a mostly one ethno state.

810
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 7: Ireland. Yeah yeah, I mean like Japan, right.

811
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,599
Speaker 5: Or even Britain or somewhere like that.

812
00:54:41,639 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 7: But well they're all cooked, so it doesn't matter anymore.

813
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:47,920
H BROSSI fi dollars. This due prophetic is either an

814
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:54,719
Indian LARPing as black or fed posting h one. Watch

815
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:00,400
Jaddy Jones watch my episode two of Sam High that

816
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,320
I wrote on It's not my you know what I'm saying.

817
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,400
The episode of sam Hi Show episode two, because that's

818
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,440
about h one b Visas and all that. No, no,

819
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,480
I'm sorry episode one. No, both of them are because

820
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:16,119
episode one is dear Elin, episode two is dear Vivac

821
00:55:16,199 --> 00:55:20,639
about that stuff Jewish captic. Oops, I meant converted from

822
00:55:20,679 --> 00:55:25,639
Judas in the Orthodoxy. God bless you, Jane James. Step

823
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,000
into the water, wait out a little bit deeper, join

824
00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:33,679
the angels singing praises to the Lamb of God. Boom

825
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:39,239
boom boom. Thankfully I never heard that one growing up.

826
00:55:41,039 --> 00:55:47,719
I remember, yeah, I always heard that one. But this

827
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,199
is the one I'm thinking of the Gaithers.

828
00:55:50,199 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 5: I remember them.

829
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 7: Oh man, this is the worst. I can't stand this stuff.

830
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,599
Here's the cathedrals. This is some boomer Grandma Shore right here, listen,

831
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:00,000
listen's right here.

832
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,639
Speaker 12: Ready, Well, what do you say about this next young man?

833
00:56:04,159 --> 00:56:07,119
Nobody has ever come along and got some music like him.

834
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 7: Ain't nobody ever sung?

835
00:56:09,519 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 5: Yeah?

836
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 12: Absolutely, He's an institution within himself. Uh, would you welcome

837
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,440
mister kirk Telly.

838
00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:19,079
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, it's him. It's kirk Telly. It's really him.

839
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:28,280
It's Kirk Kelly, Charlie, Kirk Telly, Charlie Kirk a little niche. Well,

840
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:28,679
here you go.

841
00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 3: I was three of the seven in the water. I

842
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:36,519
wrote that song after hearing God a preacher.

843
00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 7: You think Kirk Cameron over here is straight.

844
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,679
Speaker 3: Hoskins just used that phrase in a sermon that he

845
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,000
preached at a revival that the cathedral sang in nor

846
00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:51,159
North Carolina.

847
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,559
Speaker 7: And with the anticipation is just killing me. Get into it.

848
00:56:53,679 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 3: Kirk sitting back in the choir and behind phild we

849
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:01,039
had sung and he was speaking, and he's said, it's

850
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:03,239
time we as Christians need to step into the water.

851
00:57:04,119 --> 00:57:06,440
And I don't know why that struck a bear with me,

852
00:57:06,519 --> 00:57:09,079
but I just knew there was a course there, and

853
00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:10,599
so I took out a pen and paper and wrote

854
00:57:10,599 --> 00:57:12,719
the chorus.

855
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:12,079
Speaker 1: Just.

856
00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:18,159
Speaker 7: Here we go. That's what I'm talking about, stepping into

857
00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:23,639
the water. Wait, I had a little bit deeper.

858
00:57:27,159 --> 00:57:34,159
Speaker 5: Riders always have the best bases.

859
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:36,159
Speaker 1: They have.

860
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,519
Speaker 7: All the Oakridge boys had the same. Da can go

861
00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:45,800
ideo my mile male idio.

862
00:57:46,519 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 8: Hell up my hearts on fire, hell lye Rup.

863
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:57,119
Speaker 1: Does the thing.

864
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 5: They go crazy like when he goes oh yeah.

865
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,599
Speaker 7: All the when the Oakridge voice singing, the women go

866
00:58:05,719 --> 00:58:10,480
crazy at the guy with the bases. You know what,

867
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:16,800
there's something to this because, uh, remember when we were

868
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,760
watching all of the women reacting to their righteous brothers,

869
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,199
and then when they start singing certain notes or when

870
00:58:24,239 --> 00:58:29,760
certain deep voices come on, the women go, there's something

871
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,320
about a bass voice that vibes with y'all, females. What

872
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:33,679
do you think?

873
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:36,719
Speaker 5: Okay, play the song.

874
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,119
Speaker 7: I'm afraid if I play too much of this though,

875
00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:58,440
it's it's gonna be we're gonna get copy Dante into

876
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:04,880
the water. Wait, eye a little bit deeper. Yeah, that's

877
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,159
that's the Baptist Church right there, dude, Ace BROSI. You

878
00:59:09,199 --> 00:59:12,840
know we did the quantum yakub five dollars of all

879
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,440
the Roman Catholics. Who do you see potentially converting? First?

880
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:23,119
I don't know, man, I mean, who's left that isn't crazy?

881
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 5: That's the thing. If they have a channel and they're

882
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,320
well known, they won't convert because it's all.

883
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,079
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, you gotta get up, you gotta get over.

884
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:37,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, like, uh.

885
00:59:34,639 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 7: Troy throw dogs five dollars. If it's true that it

886
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,679
was a clear and black knight, a clear white moon,

887
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:44,320
Warren G's on the streets trying to consume it was

888
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,400
a clear black Night, clear white Moon. Warren G's on

889
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:53,280
the street. You know that one? No warreng G And

890
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,400
just hit the east side of the LBC on the

891
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,679
missing of Farms to warn G. You know Nate Dogg.

892
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:07,920
She knows Nate dog She's heard me play Nate dog music.

893
01:00:08,599 --> 01:00:14,519
Andy remember Nate Dogg. Yeah, and has like three or

894
01:00:14,519 --> 01:00:17,239
four good songs. There's music in me. There's a weed

895
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:24,199
song and then there's uh the one with Warren G. Anyway, Myron,

896
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:32,920
Chuck ten pounds, where are we at? Thank you for

897
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,280
putting THHX three one one three eight back on the radar.

898
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,800
Do you have any thoughts about Lucas and Henderson being

899
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:44,920
on the same track at least in the seventies and eighties. Uh,

900
01:00:45,039 --> 01:00:48,639
forgive me, Myron, who Who's Henderson? I don't remember? So

901
01:00:49,639 --> 01:00:52,639
I did just do a long chapter on THHX one

902
01:00:52,639 --> 01:00:56,440
with three eight four Starclay with three, But I apologize,

903
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,840
I don't know about Henderson. Off the top of my head.

904
01:00:59,519 --> 01:01:02,360
I think it's there's a lot of those seventies movies

905
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:12,119
like Borston that did Logan's Run. A lot of those

906
01:01:12,159 --> 01:01:14,559
seventies dystopian movies were all kind of on the same

907
01:01:14,599 --> 01:01:19,840
in the same thread Mike three five dollars lmao, Yes,

908
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:24,760
the Orbs, but also doctor Dread's Charlie Kirk smile five dollars.

909
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:30,119
Did you see Trent flag? Yeah? I shared the weird

910
01:01:31,639 --> 01:01:35,800
Skittles banner on Twitter and on YouTube every day. I'm

911
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,159
struggling twenty dollars, Part one, Jay, I heard somebody say

912
01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:43,079
that uncontacted tribes in the Amazon who haven't heard the

913
01:01:43,079 --> 01:01:46,440
Gospel can have a relationship with God since he condescends

914
01:01:46,519 --> 01:01:53,000
to our nature, he said. Paul said this, Well, whatever

915
01:01:53,079 --> 01:01:56,360
relationship or connection they have, it doesn't appear that through

916
01:01:57,519 --> 01:02:02,840
the knowledge that they have that's natural, that it's enough,

917
01:02:03,559 --> 01:02:06,840
because anybody who is going to be quote save requires

918
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,159
supernatural grace. So I would say the only way that

919
01:02:11,199 --> 01:02:13,639
they would get out of this is if God in

920
01:02:13,679 --> 01:02:18,000
some special way preaches the Gospel to them or shows

921
01:02:18,039 --> 01:02:22,039
them the person of Christ. And that can happen. Christ

922
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:25,480
can come to people in a vision, He can appear anywhere,

923
01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:28,280
even if humans fail to preach the gospel right. So,

924
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,199
for example, in the Book of Revelation, we hear of

925
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:34,559
an angel flying through the heavens preaching the gospel. So

926
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:39,880
even if it fails in terms of human exertion to

927
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,039
go and reach every tribe or something like that, or

928
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:48,920
there's unreached peoples. Conceivably that could still occur through God himself.

929
01:02:49,679 --> 01:02:52,400
For example, we hear of Muslims. I don't know how

930
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,039
true this is, but you hear these stories all the

931
01:02:54,039 --> 01:02:58,239
time that Muslims have dreams and the real Christ comes

932
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,760
and speaks to them. They realize that the fake Jesus

933
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,880
in the Koran isn't the real Jesus. Every day I'm

934
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,360
sruggling one hundred dollars. My question is, how do we

935
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,840
draw the line between the sentiment of Vatican Two's Roman

936
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,320
Catholic ecumenical positions. Don't we run into a danger in

937
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,599
terms of the incarnation. It's the arbitrary of a tribe,

938
01:03:16,639 --> 01:03:18,800
it's capable communicy and God without the Gospel. Yeah, exactly,

939
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,719
That's what I'm saying, Like, you can't connect. So the

940
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,000
presence of the Spirit, according to Saint Maximus in one

941
01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:29,280
of the ad thalassiums is that yes, the Spirit is

942
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,960
everywhere present, but not in the same way or the

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same mode. So the presence of the Holy Spirit and

944
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,360
the sacraments of the Orthodox Church are unique, just like

945
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there's no eucharists out there in the jungle. So whatever

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01:03:45,159 --> 01:03:48,360
means and ways by which God reaches those people, it

947
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,840
still has to be some revelation of the person of Christ,

948
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,320
and God can do that. But that's really the only way.

949
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,719
It can't come just through the innate knowledge of nature

950
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,519
or something like that. Hence, what has to be this

951
01:04:02,679 --> 01:04:07,400
supernatural connection, because salvation is faith comes by hearing hearing

952
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,960
about the Word of God, and so faith is partly knowledge.

953
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,000
It's not totally just knowledge or an assent to propositions.

954
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,679
But that's why Paul preaches to the Pagans, and he says,

955
01:04:21,079 --> 01:04:23,360
the one that you don't know is the one that

956
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:31,039
you need to know. Serious machines five dollars. Do you

957
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:35,440
have any thoughts on hide like comedy. It feels like

958
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,239
he was ostracized and now he's blowing up. Yeah. Absolutely,

959
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:44,599
I mean, is there more new raw comedy coming that

960
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:50,440
will combat the current paradigm. That's an interesting question. I

961
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:57,880
mean Sam is kind of at the forefront of the

962
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:02,159
cutting edge comedy right now. I mean Sam Tripoli is

963
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,039
partly part of that. Leonarda is partly part of that.

964
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,519
But of course, you know, stand up is a little

965
01:05:10,599 --> 01:05:13,760
different from like other types of comedy that's, you know,

966
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,280
sketch comedy, or like Sam Hide Show, which is a

967
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:23,000
mix of monologues and riffs and sketch comedy. So I

968
01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:26,360
don't know, that's a good question. Who's the next cutting

969
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:32,320
edge funny people. Maybe we are, maybe we are over here,

970
01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:38,840
but that's what we'd like to see because when you

971
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:44,800
have like a takeover of the liberal elite structure the cathedral,

972
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,840
then the only people that are going to be against

973
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,559
the establishment or counterculture are the ones that are comedians

974
01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:55,360
that are not the crazy libs. But there's not many

975
01:05:55,400 --> 01:06:00,559
of those, but you guys in the chat, I'm sure

976
01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:02,239
you guys could think up some other I actually was

977
01:06:02,239 --> 01:06:06,320
thinking about doing a show just on like favorite comedy,

978
01:06:06,639 --> 01:06:09,280
favorite Scotch shows, and favorite comedians. That'd be a funny show.

979
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,880
We've talked about on Twitter, but I've actually done the show.

980
01:06:17,199 --> 01:06:20,239
But great question, And remember go check out Sam Hid Show.

981
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The new episode is Boomers, and then we got a

982
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couple more already kind of ready to go pretty soon.

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Every day I'm strugging five dollars Part three? Why would

984
01:06:31,039 --> 01:06:32,880
God subject people to being born outside the ability to

985
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,719
hear the gospel. Well, the church fathers have speculated about

986
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,519
this with Christ preaching the Gospel to the dead, not

987
01:06:38,599 --> 01:06:40,880
that that's speculation, but you have Saint Cyril and you

988
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:45,159
have John Damascus speculating that if Christ preached the Gospel

989
01:06:45,199 --> 01:06:48,079
to all of the dead in the Old Testament, which

990
01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:50,280
we know we need to send into Hades, it's possible

991
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,880
that somehow he does preach the Gospel to everyone. Jay,

992
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,440
do you come that glorious Maine on your chest, Cyber

993
01:06:57,519 --> 01:07:00,039
Not this dude is talking at about my Chester a

994
01:07:00,039 --> 01:07:01,880
little too much kind of where I feel feeling a little.

995
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,360
I feel a little awkward.

996
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:05,519
Speaker 5: Thought over here.

997
01:07:05,639 --> 01:07:08,679
Speaker 7: I feel not me, not me. Hell no, I'm afraid

998
01:07:08,679 --> 01:07:11,400
that we get I'm afraid we're getting Roman Catholics in

999
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,000
the chat now with all this gay crap.

1000
01:07:13,159 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 5: Do you remember that priest calendar in Rome?

1001
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 7: People don't realize that when you go to Rome, and

1002
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,960
this is not People didn't believe me when I say.

1003
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Speaker 5: This priest pin up calendar.

1004
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,559
Speaker 7: There's uh, it's the gayest thing ever, dude's and it's reel.

1005
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,880
When you go to Rome and you walk around, anywhere

1006
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,239
you walk around, there's a little vendors selling you know,

1007
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,440
knick knacks and junk everywhere, right, all of the vendors

1008
01:07:39,599 --> 01:07:44,440
sell Hot Priest calendars. I kid you not. It's and

1009
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,400
it's not for the women. It's super gay, dude. And

1010
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:53,599
it's real. And I think like, if you look it up,

1011
01:07:53,639 --> 01:07:56,480
you'll only see it. You'll only see it when you

1012
01:07:56,519 --> 01:08:00,599
look up, like people selling them on eBay and Etsy

1013
01:08:00,639 --> 01:08:07,719
and whatnot. Let's see what And they do it every

1014
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,519
year too, because it's popping up like different genera different years. Yeah,

1015
01:08:11,519 --> 01:08:12,199
that's it right here.

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01:08:14,239 --> 01:08:14,679
Speaker 3: M hm.

1017
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 7: Oh look the Guardian even did it. Look they wrote

1018
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:39,079
about it. Now you might think, well, but this is

1019
01:08:39,079 --> 01:08:40,960
for the ladies. It's not for the ladies, dude. It's

1020
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:55,000
super gay man. I'm telling you. I was surprised when

1021
01:08:55,039 --> 01:08:56,800
we saw this. We're walking around Rome and I'm like,

1022
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,800
why are they selling Hot prie It's called like the

1023
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,640
Hot Priest Calendar. I'm like, why are they selling us?

1024
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,159
What is this? Yeah? Like that's what looks like Yeah

1025
01:09:03,239 --> 01:09:03,720
I think.

1026
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,279
Speaker 5: That's even the one. No, that's twenty ninety, but it

1027
01:09:06,319 --> 01:09:07,279
looked exactly like that.

1028
01:09:07,399 --> 01:09:10,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is every year this and like we're walking

1029
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:12,840
around like what is this? Why are they selling this,

1030
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:21,079
This is so bizarre and as gay as hell. Dude.

1031
01:09:21,119 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 5: Well, speaking of the Vatican, we were talking about.

1032
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 7: Anti Christ, a bunch of damn butt buddies, Dude, butt buddies,

1033
01:09:30,199 --> 01:09:36,199
butt buddies, but buddies, but buddies in Rome. Justin Henley

1034
01:09:36,359 --> 01:09:39,760
Jay is sleeping on the Ortho thugs. I don't mean

1035
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:43,960
to I watched, Actually, I watched Jim Bob and that dude.

1036
01:09:44,039 --> 01:09:45,399
I'm sort of mean to be rude. I forget the

1037
01:09:45,399 --> 01:09:47,359
guy's name, but the guys, those Jim Bob and his

1038
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:50,199
co host. I watched some of that the other day.

1039
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:55,840
Why are you spamming? Please stop spamming the chip but

1040
01:09:56,039 --> 01:10:00,319
buddies and medew skeptic five dollars? Does the alg Xander

1041
01:10:00,399 --> 01:10:05,279
tradition address how Christ makes up for shortcomings to the

1042
01:10:05,399 --> 01:10:09,359
church militant when it comes to preaching the Gospel to all.

1043
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,279
That's kind of what I'm getting at. Yeah, so I

1044
01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:16,880
know Saint Cerarl Alexander discusses that possibility, and I know

1045
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:21,399
John Damascus discusses it later on, and there's probably more,

1046
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:25,720
but I'm just not aware of it. Wyats the Alexander tradition.

1047
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:29,119
I'm not sure, except that they always tended to focus

1048
01:10:29,159 --> 01:10:32,279
on the cosmic scope of the incarnation and redemption, more

1049
01:10:32,319 --> 01:10:37,079
so than like the Antiochene tradition focused on christ humanity. So,

1050
01:10:38,119 --> 01:10:42,039
LW five dollars, do you have a ballpark on when

1051
01:10:42,199 --> 01:10:46,920
you plan to pull the grid and go off grid?

1052
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,560
Pull the plug and go off grid before all of

1053
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:55,880
the cbdc's UBI transhumanism is normalized and we were plugged

1054
01:10:55,880 --> 01:11:02,399
into another nested simulation. Well, I'm pretty positive that that

1055
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,399
won't all necessarily come about. They might try this in

1056
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,840
certain areas, they might push in certain regions, but I

1057
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,920
don't know that we are necessarily in the end of

1058
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:18,000
the world or the end times. We don't know. So no,

1059
01:11:18,119 --> 01:11:22,840
I'm not really planning to leave and go off grid.

1060
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,560
In fact, what we're gonna do is, as Bitcoin continues

1061
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:31,279
to go to the moon, I will expand into doing

1062
01:11:31,279 --> 01:11:32,960
the things that I like to do. I will do

1063
01:11:33,039 --> 01:11:36,680
more of the comedy stuff. I will do music. I

1064
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,840
will be rebranding as DJ dong Butter.

1065
01:11:40,279 --> 01:11:43,079
Speaker 5: We're gonna have a full on variety show where we're yeah,

1066
01:11:43,119 --> 01:11:45,960
we'll just have fun and do what we want to do.

1067
01:11:46,079 --> 01:11:50,199
Speaker 7: Con I mean, I told you guys on Twitter what

1068
01:11:50,239 --> 01:11:51,800
I was going to do and y'all don't see it

1069
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,319
to believe me. Let's let's take a look at this.

1070
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,960
And at a certain point, I'm almost sick of all of

1071
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,680
these weirdos even being on my timeline. It's like, get

1072
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:31,560
these get all these creep faces off of the damn timeline.

1073
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,520
Well where is that at? There we go. We're here.

1074
01:12:35,039 --> 01:12:38,359
Now that I am retiring from debating, I will prep

1075
01:12:38,399 --> 01:12:42,199
you all for my coming rebrand, the hottest nineties raver

1076
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DJ dong Butter. That's how we get this camera and

1077
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,560
this stream to run as smooth as butter because I'm

1078
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,319
DJ dong Butter. Not really, that's not really gonna be

1079
01:12:53,399 --> 01:12:57,920
my name. Stop freaking out, don't forage out, DJJ. That's

1080
01:12:58,239 --> 01:13:00,520
goody cyber, not five dollars. What are you about jd

1081
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:04,000
Vance and his ties to Teal and Pall and Teer.

1082
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,680
I mean it's pretty well known now, I mean I'm

1083
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:12,640
not sure, like, I mean, what's the Vice president doesn't

1084
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,800
really do a whole lot, So I'm not super worried

1085
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:19,479
about it. But as far as I can tell, I

1086
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,720
hear that that is there. Did you come across the

1087
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:22,800
Teal Vance connection?

1088
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1089
01:13:24,079 --> 01:13:25,319
Speaker 7: Did Courtney talk about it.

1090
01:13:25,399 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. OK, so he's the one that pretty much supported

1091
01:13:31,039 --> 01:13:36,600
jd Vance his whole career because they had this plan,

1092
01:13:38,079 --> 01:13:40,840
the currency plan from PayPal the whole time. So Elon

1093
01:13:41,039 --> 01:13:46,760
and Teal have been wanting to get their hands on

1094
01:13:47,039 --> 01:13:48,279
making the one world currency.

1095
01:13:49,239 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 7: Well, I want to remind you guys that the solution

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01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,039
to the one world currency is bitcoin. So if you

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want to get started on bitcoin, you can look in

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the show description and you'll see their swan Bitcoin. That

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is a bitcoin only company, and that's my referral link there.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna put you on something.

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01:14:32,279 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 7: Mm hmm. I'm trying to remember how I did this.

1109
01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:50,439
I want to show off something. H Well, I used

1110
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,199
to have the ads ready to go, but I don't know.

1111
01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:57,960
Now the ads don't seem to go like I thought. Well,

1112
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,279
I knew there would have to be one. There had

1113
01:14:59,279 --> 01:15:03,279
to be one uh area of mistake here. Oh wait,

1114
01:15:03,319 --> 01:15:05,279
I know what I'm gonna do. Move this down here

1115
01:15:06,399 --> 01:15:07,039
and then do this.

1116
01:15:08,359 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 13: I want to show off something that we're all proud of.

1117
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:16,079
I've got a browser here. This is Jay Dyers, much vaunted,

1118
01:15:16,319 --> 01:15:20,439
much sought after philosophy one oh one. Now he just

1119
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,680
got this page up. We are just testing it out.

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You guys are some of the first people in the

1121
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,640
world to see it. I want to say, for my part,

1122
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,920
it's not philosophy you want to one. I think this

1123
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:33,479
is as mistitling. I really think is as like philosophy unleashed.

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01:15:34,079 --> 01:15:36,520
Because a philosophy want on one course, they give you

1125
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:38,920
kind of some useless information that you can't make sense of.

1126
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:43,239
Jay actually lays out over twelve weeks, dozens and dozens

1127
01:15:43,239 --> 01:15:46,000
of hours put into just the presentation of this, let

1128
01:15:46,039 --> 01:15:48,479
alone the hundreds and thousands of hours of research that

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01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:52,000
it takes to have a coherent evolution and history of

1130
01:15:52,119 --> 01:15:55,159
the origins of philosophy, the uses of philosophy, the different

1131
01:15:55,159 --> 01:15:57,960
ways to look at it over time, and how that

1132
01:15:58,039 --> 01:16:01,399
has been brought about to what we have today, which

1133
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:05,800
is almost an absence of philosophy on the objective logic

1134
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:09,800
and reason side in an overabundance of woke philosophy that

1135
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,159
is irrational and is made up day by day as

1136
01:16:12,199 --> 01:16:14,760
people are like I think we should bring racism back,

1137
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,520
and then here's a justification, and then it gets wokeified

1138
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,720
and spread out, and then all of a sudden you

1139
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,920
have a bunch of communist socialist ideas where you become

1140
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,279
the property in action. You need to be able to

1141
01:16:25,319 --> 01:16:28,000
stand on your own ground. It helps to have a

1142
01:16:28,119 --> 01:16:31,520
foundation in philosophy because it's a method define truth when

1143
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,960
you get down to it. Philosophy is there because you

1144
01:16:34,039 --> 01:16:36,520
love truth enough to go and learn how to find it,

1145
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,640
because it's valuable. So if you're interested in things like that.

1146
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,439
There is the landing page. We'll link it up into notes.

1147
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,960
It is a longer once, so we'll get a shorter

1148
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,479
URL for this. I'm sure Jay has a link on

1149
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,239
his page. I just wanted to show it off. Now

1150
01:16:50,319 --> 01:16:51,960
you know it exists, you can go look for it

1151
01:16:52,279 --> 01:16:55,079
and see why this is not your father's philosophy.

1152
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:59,199
Speaker 7: Right, So well done. I'm proud of everyone who helped

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to produce and edit.

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Speaker 13: The course, and of course Jade Deflaw's job.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna put you on something crazy real quick. Most

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of these zoomer Jimbros are consuming macro guzzling, synthetic dyes

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Speaker 7: All right. Um, Now to the guy that sent the

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big fat super chat here, but you retracted it. Um,

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I can't tell if it looks like it went through.

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So to Zar Nicholas, if you did not mean to

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send that super chat because I noticed it looks like

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you retracted it because maybe you put in too much money,

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just send me an email at my website email and

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let me know who you are and all that, and

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I will refund you. Unless you did mean to send it,

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but you didn't want to send a message. So but

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I don't want you to lose you know, three hundred

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dollars Canadian or whatever if you didn't mean to do

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that super chat uh cyber not five dollars. I mean,

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because he's presumably the lead twenty twenty eight Republican candidate.

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Will they play the long game for a They could?

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I mean, yeah, maybe they got like a tech overlord

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control structure going with JD Vance. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Well, they're noticing that. I mean, even mainstream normies are

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noticing how many correlations this has with like prophecy and

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currency and anti Christ and stuff like that. So even

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the New York Times I think it was they've just

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had a big interview with Peter Teal where they were

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discussing all of this because they were like, oh, this

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sounds very anti Christ. And so the interview was talking

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about how well, would you rather have the BT system

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or would you rather have armageddon? Because that's what we're

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heading into. So this is the false dialectic that they're

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giving people. It's like, would you rather have mutual assured

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destruction in nuclear war or would you have rather be

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like surveilled and watched all the time. So these are

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your two options. And I took some screenshots of the

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written interview and then we can play some clips if

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you want. But they start out talking about that, how

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Peter Teel and the technocrasts think that we are in

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a stall right now that we have not made as

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many advancements. It's from let's say the nineteen seventies until

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now that they had made in like eighteen seventy until

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nineteen fifty or something like that. So he's like, you

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think that we are getting so much more advanced, but

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he's like, actually, we are in some kind of like.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I've heard this. Someone else talks about this. I

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think Chris Langen talked about the same thing the High

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psych you guy, because we were going to try to

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get him on Sam Hud and I think he was

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talking about that, you think tech has done this amazing advancement,

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Actually hasn't.

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Speaker 5: They even referred to it as the back to the

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future theory, like from the wild West, back to the

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future to the modern time.

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Speaker 7: You talking about Will Smith wile Wall West. Yes, girls, girls, girls, girls,

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that's news, like pretty girls girls girls girl you you

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you were you? Oh man, I was crying laughing of

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the new Will Smith song. If y'all, if y'all haven't

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watched something that you want four. If people want a

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good laugh, go watch the new Will Smith song and

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pay attention to it. It's gonna crack you up, dude,

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I feel like and and all of the all the

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videos making fun of it are just as funny as

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the video humiliation. That's what the guy. That's what the

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guy making fun of it. Uh, if you not watch this, dude,

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you gotta go watch it. Because he's got a bunch

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of like ratchet hose in there that do not look good.

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And he's like five five that's a ten, So it's

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like two fives is a ten and Will Smith lodging

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and all that's Will Smith math. And also he's like

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dressed like Carlton, and he's they're like giant goddesses and

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he's like this little bitty sent man looking at him,

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looking up. He's looking like Carlton. Now we thought he

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was the bad boy, right, And what's he doing with

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these funky ass chicks on here? Looking rough? And then

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he's over here saying I'll buy you whatever you need. Ladies,

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hold up your drinks please, So he's having to pay

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for any girls to just even be around him. What

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y'all look look at this chick looked like a freaking

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Barbie doll. He's dancing on her shoulder like he's what's this,

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Jimmy Cricket? Oh man? This video is just something else.

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And my favorite part is when he's arguing with himself.

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This party goes well, he says, I can't even remember

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the lyrics here, it.

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Speaker 5: Goes, let me pretty to me?

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Speaker 7: To me, it's like I ain't saying that.

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Speaker 8: Wait, at women not pretty to me? I mean she's

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pretty to me.

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Speaker 7: There's not a lot of women ain't pretty to me.

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I mean she's pretty to me. But he's at therapy.

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So this is his altars. This is the two Smith alters. Oh,

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they didn't even see it. Shoot, let me let me

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go back. Yeah, so they're not even seeing this, damn it.

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So here's the ratchet hose. Look rough, here's a tiny

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Will Smith. Where's it at? Here? He is on the purse.

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Speaker 5: He can't even dance right now.

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Speaker 8: Here he goes a lot of women not pretty to me,

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I mean she's pretty to me.

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Speaker 7: That's funny too. When he goes, I like you, you, you, and.

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Speaker 5: You your brain says when you have on.

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Speaker 7: It's even worse than that, though, because He's not like

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he's just hitting on girls. He's like simping and being like, oh,

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buy you whatever. You won't please hang out with me.

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I'll make a phone call.

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Speaker 1: You'll be on Vogue.

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Speaker 7: It's like Vogue anyway.

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Speaker 5: Are the girls in the room with those.

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Speaker 7: Exavier five dollars? The anime called Psychopath deals with transhumanism,

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the systems being safeguarded and propped up and enforced by

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a surveillance state. It equips all of his protagandists and

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antagon it pretty protagonists and antagonists with fundamental philosophical archetypes. Interesting.

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I want to watch that allula five dollars. Thank you

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Adams k Arson Jamie for the win question question Portmeister

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five dollars. Is there a smacking loud apple archetype shout

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out to Jordain. There is, but it's also a Skittles

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archetype Sawid Snake five dollars premise one Clark Kent Cork

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Kent is a metaphysical premise too. There's no way to

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come to the god conclusion. Pope Unitus and Shake Frogger

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worship the one true God that is actually a valid

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and a non that is not fallacious groove Monster ten dollars.

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Another book recommendation from transgender to Transhumanists by Martin Rothblatt.

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It is also promoted by Ray Kurtzval. Yes, I'm familiar

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with Martin. We have covered being a forty two thousand

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or whatever in Martine multiple times. We did. I think

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we covered it with the Burmas too. So there's a

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bunch of let me do these super chests over here

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on stream labs here musculous five dollars research XUSD blockchain,

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first crypto back by nothing but commodities soon all over

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the world. Okay, I've never I'm not familiar with this

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chargey three dollars. I'm protesting cover any orthodox has been

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a long I was a long time Rouslan s last

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week and I was going back and forth in a

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long DM with Rouslan, trying to get him to open

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his mind a bit. It was crazy how in denial

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he was. How did he come across when y'all were together, Well,

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when we went out to dinner, we didn't talk about theology.

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We just talked about life and things in general. And

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it was just a nice, normal dinner conversation with me

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and him and Jamie in a restaurant in San Diego.

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And then the next day we I didn't know what

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to expect because his show had no idea what he

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wanted to bring up. We didn't really talk about a

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whole lot of what we were going to do, and

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then it ended up in that. Really we only got

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into a debate in that last hour and a half

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about sola fide. So he didn't seem super obstinate. He

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just seemed to be, in my view, kind of just

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making argument to that. I didn't think we're very convincing.

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Half Heart channel, hall Fart channel five dollars. I am

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the next cutting comedian. So mister hall Fart and his

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channel is the future of comedy. Here's a dollar hall far.

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It says, to not show AI generated crap? Again, what

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would AI generated crap? I didn't know. We showed maybe everything.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's commercial.

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Speaker 7: What's commercial? The chalk one, Oh, that's supposed to be funny.

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That's that's iron Irony looked that up, comedy man, that's

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called irony. Uh, it's actually the chalk guy that made

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that because he thought it was funny. Huh. Just ridiculous

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that people think I made that ad. It's the chalk.

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Dude made that ad just to be funny. Ken Fresno

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five dollars. Why was Trent flashing dollar bills? Was he

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going to buy some hot preest calendars?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Actually probably Musculus ten dollars, Jay again, research blockchain holdings. Okay, well,

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I think that's all those.

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Speaker 5: Who donuts.

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Speaker 7: Zep Ryder became a member for twenty with twenty memberships. Dang,

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he's just throwing them out, just passing out memberships.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of memberships.

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Speaker 7: Hold on s Duster ten dollars. Thank you, Jay. I

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converted after we spoke a year ago. I am newly

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illumined since two twenty three. I have an Orthodox friend

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who is willfully ignorant on certain geopolitical questions. Is this

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sinful or a passion's protection? Passions protection? Whether there's stupids

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so properly called passions? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I

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mean he could have. There could be multiple reasons why

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a person doesn't care to get into these more geopolitical

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minded questions. So I couldn't say what your friend's reasonings are,

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but I'm glad to hear that you're in the church.

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Exavier two dollars. You miss my stream labs donation, Xavier.

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Speaker 5: Let's see, people have been giving me donuts and I

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can't see.

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Speaker 7: Well, you can read them on your channel, Xavier. I

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read your anime super Chat, so he must have said

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that before I read it. Jay, I bought your website

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c K twenty bucks. By the way, c K made

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a good video that they shout out to him. Your

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website is great. Where do you recommend starting I'm binging

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as a Catechuman, but also want to engage with the

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other stuff. Uh, well, the Bible talks are pretty good

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if you're just wanting to start out with stuff.

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Speaker 5: Father Cosmos of Austria.

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Speaker 7: No, he's some about on my website. Oh he said

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a bottom membership. Oh okay, and he's saying where in

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there do you? I mean, you know, there's basically just

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five different four or five topics, so just pick the

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topics that you like. I don't know LW five dollars.

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Bitcoin cash is better than bitcoin? No, sorry, bro, I

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don't agree with that. I know about the block size war.

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Not convinced by Roger Vere or any of that. AI

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will kill the jobs Bitcoin. Yeah, I know bitcoin is

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so it's I know. I've heard all these arguments scumba

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bear ten dollars. I watched The Stuff? Have you? Have

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you seen the Stuff? Bro? That's one of the first

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podcasts that Jane, Jane and Jamie, Jamie and I did.

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Speaker 5: The Stuff is never enough.

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Speaker 7: The Stuff is an esoterically with three.

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Speaker 5: That's a classic. We did that one like before we

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even started dating.

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Speaker 7: Yes, we did. It's actually a lot more going on

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in that movie than you would think.

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Speaker 5: Well, the Stuff is a metaphor for all the genetically

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modified food.

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Speaker 7: So does old old podcasts don't even come up anymore.

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Speaker 5: The Stuff is like marshmallow gou that turns you into

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marshmall ago. Remember all the product placement in the stuff.

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Speaker 7: It should be in here because here is the witch

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that we did that was ten years ago in the Stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yes, so they were deliberately placing big corporate products in.

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They're like Pepsi and Nestle and stuff like that, saying

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this these corporate slop. Is the stuff.

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Speaker 7: Might be in here because we've done it twice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we do it two times. Actually one of them

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01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:48,359
was probably just audios.

1401
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:57,279
Speaker 7: It is. It is just not coming up so old.

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01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: M h.

1403
01:33:06,279 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 7: So here is one version of us covering the stuff.

1404
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:11,520
But maybe I had to put your name in there.

1405
01:33:20,199 --> 01:33:25,239
It's hard to type at an angle? Was it when

1406
01:33:25,239 --> 01:33:50,000
we did society to man these old ones that still

1407
01:33:50,000 --> 01:34:03,000
don't even want to show up anymore? Aha? No, that's

1408
01:34:03,039 --> 01:34:06,760
another Are you sure that's the one I just pulled up?

1409
01:34:09,159 --> 01:34:11,039
I can find it this way. All right, what's the

1410
01:34:11,039 --> 01:34:13,960
next point. We're gonna let's get into the Peter Tiel thing, because.

1411
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 5: So everyone's talking about this interview that he just did,

1412
01:34:25,199 --> 01:34:30,359
and he even brings up Orthodox Christianity, and so I

1413
01:34:30,399 --> 01:34:35,520
screenshoted a bunch of nuggets and early on. So that's

1414
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,760
what we're talking about. They think that we have stagnation.

1415
01:34:39,319 --> 01:34:42,960
Right now, we're stagnating and we need to take more risks.

1416
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:49,880
We need to jump ahead in advancement. He says. Culturally,

1417
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,840
what I imagine it looks like is early modernity, where

1418
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:55,720
people thought we would cure diseases. They thought we would

1419
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:58,840
have radical life extension. Immortality was part of the project

1420
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:03,760
of early modernity. It was Francis Bacon. So he's already

1421
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:11,199
talking about like Enlightenment people new Atlantis, Neoplatonism. He says,

1422
01:35:11,199 --> 01:35:14,239
maybe it was anti Christian, maybe it was downstream of Christianity.

1423
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:18,000
It was competitive. If Christianity promised you a physical resurrection,

1424
01:35:18,199 --> 01:35:20,800
science was not going to succeed unless it promised you

1425
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:25,119
the exact same thing. So then he starts talking about

1426
01:35:25,199 --> 01:35:29,920
in the early days they were into crowdgenics. Like he

1427
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:35,920
goes in nineteen ninety nine, we were running PayPal. He

1428
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:41,439
went to a freezing party where it was like a

1429
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,319
Tubberer party, but they were selling free ice.

1430
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:47,279
Speaker 7: Baby, Yes, it all comes back.

1431
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:51,520
Speaker 5: So you could get the ice Vanilla ice.

1432
01:35:51,399 --> 01:35:55,119
Speaker 7: Package, the VIP Posse package.

1433
01:35:55,199 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 5: Yes, so you could get either your head or your

1434
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:01,600
whole body, depending on how much money had. But he

1435
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,600
was like, it was disturbing when the dot matrix printer

1436
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,279
didn't quite work and so the freezing policies couldn't be

1437
01:36:07,279 --> 01:36:10,039
printed out. So it was even like a foreshadowing that,

1438
01:36:10,079 --> 01:36:15,560
like technology and machinery is not always something that you

1439
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:16,600
can't count on.

1440
01:36:18,079 --> 01:36:20,279
Speaker 7: Is it too late to join the VIP Posse? Doesn't

1441
01:36:21,319 --> 01:36:27,439
because we know a person who uh is at a

1442
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,840
place where Vanilla brings his cars.

1443
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 5: Remember, well, maybe you can get.

1444
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 7: Remember a certain Gabe.

1445
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:40,039
Speaker 14: Yeah, the iceman brings his cars in, So maybe it's

1446
01:36:40,039 --> 01:36:42,960
not too late to join the VIP posse, we throw

1447
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:45,319
a little cringe, Core tracks his way.

1448
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,039
Speaker 7: Next thing, you know, it's blowing up.

1449
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 5: Well, let's give Vanilla Eyes to come perform with Riffrap

1450
01:36:50,319 --> 01:36:50,680
and you.

1451
01:36:52,119 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 7: We'll try. We'll try.

1452
01:36:57,119 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 5: So then they start talking about boomers, your favorite.

1453
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 7: This is the only thing that makes me. Now I'm

1454
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,039
starting to like Peter Tilly. He makes boomer jokes.

1455
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:11,359
Speaker 5: He says, in retrospect, there was still a fringe boomer

1456
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:14,479
view where they still believed they could live forever, and

1457
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,199
that was the last generation. So I'm always anti boomer,

1458
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,520
but maybe there's something we've lost, even in this friend

1459
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:23,520
of boomor narcissism, where there were at least a few

1460
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,760
boomers who still believe science would hear all their diseases.

1461
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:32,680
No one who's a millennial believes that anymore. And then

1462
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:35,159
you always think of the right arguments to make. Later,

1463
01:37:35,279 --> 01:37:39,359
he says, it was talking about having dinner with Elon.

1464
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:42,560
Oh Elon's sad because he doesn't want to go to

1465
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:46,680
Mars anymore. Twenty twenty four was the year where Elon

1466
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:50,239
stopped believing in it. It was supposed to be a

1467
01:37:50,239 --> 01:37:51,199
political project.

1468
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:53,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, Mars is thinking day anyway, That's what I'm saying.

1469
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 5: And in twenty twenty four, Elon came to believe that

1470
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,119
if you went to Mars, the social US government, the

1471
01:38:01,159 --> 01:38:05,640
woke AI would follow you there. It was a meeting

1472
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,680
with Elon and the CEO of Deep Mind that we

1473
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,560
brokeered and he says, the interviewer says, this is an

1474
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:15,039
AI company. Yeah, And that's the rough conversation that Demis

1475
01:38:15,119 --> 01:38:18,920
was telling Elon that AI will follow you no matter

1476
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:23,560
where you go. And then they just start talking about

1477
01:38:24,199 --> 01:38:28,680
AI was important, Mars was important to Elon, and then

1478
01:38:29,039 --> 01:38:30,680
he goes, what does Mars mean.

1479
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:32,239
Speaker 7: Well, Mars's moms.

1480
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:36,520
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it does. We did that movie on my channel.

1481
01:38:39,279 --> 01:38:42,119
Teal says, is it just a scientific project or is

1482
01:38:42,119 --> 01:38:45,600
it like Hindline The Moon as a libertarian Paradise or

1483
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:49,760
something like this? So here they're bringing up the old

1484
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:54,399
sci fi's right, Yeah, and that's where GROC comes from.

1485
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,840
Is Hindline Stranger and Strange Land?

1486
01:38:58,239 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 7: Do you want to hear this?

1487
01:38:59,239 --> 01:39:00,279
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1488
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:03,319
Speaker 15: What does that mean to you? What is the Antichrist?

1489
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:04,399
Speaker 2: How much time do we have?

1490
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 15: We've got as long as much time as you have

1491
01:39:08,319 --> 01:39:09,640
to talk about the Antichrist?

1492
01:39:10,239 --> 01:39:12,159
Speaker 16: All right, Well, I have a I could talk about

1493
01:39:12,199 --> 01:39:17,880
it where But no, I think, uh, I think there's

1494
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:23,159
always a question, you know, how how do we articulate,

1495
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:27,720
you know, some of these existential risks, some of the

1496
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:31,199
challenges we have, and they're all framed to sort of

1497
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:36,199
runaway dystopian science text. There's a risk of nuclear war.

1498
01:39:36,239 --> 01:39:39,720
There's a risk of environmental disaster, maybe something specifical like

1499
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:41,720
climate changel there are lots of other ones we've come

1500
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:44,800
up with. There's a risk of you know, I know,

1501
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:48,199
bio weapons. You have all the different sci fi scenarios.

1502
01:39:48,239 --> 01:39:51,960
Obviously there are certain types of risks with AI. But

1503
01:39:52,039 --> 01:39:55,079
I always think that if we're gonna have this frame

1504
01:39:55,199 --> 01:39:58,880
of talking about existential risks, perhaps we should also talk

1505
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:03,119
about the risk of another type of a bad singularity,

1506
01:40:03,159 --> 01:40:06,880
which I would describe as the one world totalitarian state,

1507
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:12,640
because I would say the political solution, the default political

1508
01:40:13,159 --> 01:40:20,439
solution people have for all these existential risks is one

1509
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:25,880
world governance and the Christian framing, which in some ways

1510
01:40:26,039 --> 01:40:30,359
the same question is Antichrist or armageddon. You have the

1511
01:40:30,399 --> 01:40:35,159
one world state of the Antichrist, or we're sleepwalking towards armageddon,

1512
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:39,279
one world or none Antichrist or armageddon? On one level,

1513
01:40:39,319 --> 01:40:42,720
are the same question. The way the Antichrist would take

1514
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:46,520
over the world is you talk about armageddon NonStop, you

1515
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:49,520
talk about existential risk NonStop, and.

1516
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:51,279
Speaker 2: This is what you need to regulate.

1517
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:55,119
Speaker 16: It's the opposite of the picture of Baconian science from

1518
01:40:55,199 --> 01:40:59,479
the seventeenth eighteenth century, where you know, the Antichrist is

1519
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:04,560
like some evil tech genius, evil scientists who invents this

1520
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:07,159
machine to take over the world. People are way too

1521
01:41:07,199 --> 01:41:10,720
scared for that. In our world, the thing that has

1522
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:15,079
political resonance is the opposite. It is it is the

1523
01:41:15,119 --> 01:41:17,920
thing that has political resonances. We need to stop science.

1524
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,319
We need to just say stop to this. And this

1525
01:41:21,399 --> 01:41:24,079
is where yeah, I don't know. In the seventeenth century,

1526
01:41:24,279 --> 01:41:29,800
I can imagine a doctor Strangelove Edward Teller type person taking.

1527
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:30,199
Speaker 1: Over the world.

1528
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:34,239
Speaker 16: In our world, it's far more likely to be Greta Thunberg.

1529
01:41:34,399 --> 01:41:38,039
Speaker 15: This is my my very specific question for you, right,

1530
01:41:38,159 --> 01:41:40,640
is that you are you're you're a you're an investor

1531
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:45,199
in AI, You're you know, you're deeply invested in pallenteer

1532
01:41:45,319 --> 01:41:50,000
in military technology and technologies of surveillance and technologies.

1533
01:41:51,079 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 7: Well, I don't think Greta is Antichrist. I don't think

1534
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:57,920
she's going to take over the world. I mean, first

1535
01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:00,560
of all, Greta is a woman, a girl woman. Now,

1536
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:07,079
I mean that's silly, But I don't Yeah, somebody said,

1537
01:42:07,079 --> 01:42:09,159
I don't know. I don't know anything about Peter Till

1538
01:42:09,199 --> 01:42:12,239
other than what I read in his zero to one book.

1539
01:42:12,279 --> 01:42:16,479
But somebody said that he has read Renee Gerrard, and

1540
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,960
so his idea of Christian theology is influenced by that

1541
01:42:20,039 --> 01:42:23,199
book over there, Sacred. In what's it called, what's the

1542
01:42:23,279 --> 01:42:28,680
Red text, they're saying the something and the sacred violence

1543
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:32,760
in the Sacred by Gerard. So I've not read Rene

1544
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:36,640
Gerard yet, so I can't say. But it sounds like

1545
01:42:37,319 --> 01:42:42,560
the ideas of just a sort of like generic like

1546
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:47,560
generic terms like anti Christ and apocalypse and beat system.

1547
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:51,239
But it's not really situated in the Biblical text. It's

1548
01:42:51,239 --> 01:42:55,159
just kind of like situated in pop culture ideas or

1549
01:42:55,239 --> 01:43:02,359
like multi religious studies ideas of what Antichrist is, or

1550
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:08,680
maybe even perennialist ideas like Upton's book on Antichrist and Counterinitiation.

1551
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:13,119
So it's not again when he's taught when he says

1552
01:43:13,159 --> 01:43:15,520
this stuff, I don't know exactly what he means, because

1553
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:17,840
it's not really the biblical framework.

1554
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 15: Or fair and so on. Right, And it just seems

1555
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:25,760
to me that when you tell me a story about

1556
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:30,079
the Antichrist coming to power and using the fear of

1557
01:43:30,159 --> 01:43:33,840
technological change to sort of impose order on the world,

1558
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:36,960
I feel like that Antichrist would be maybe be using

1559
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:41,479
the tools that you think you were that you were building, right, Like,

1560
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,479
wouldn't the Antichrist be like, great, you know, we're not

1561
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:46,720
going to have any more technological progress. But I really

1562
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:50,640
like what Palanteer has done so far, right, Isn't that

1563
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:53,760
Isn't that a concern? Wouldn't that be the you know,

1564
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:57,000
the irony of history would be that the man publicly

1565
01:43:57,039 --> 01:44:02,079
worrying about the Antichrist accidentally hastens his or her arrival.

1566
01:44:05,199 --> 01:44:09,399
Speaker 16: Uh, They're all Look, they are all these different scenario.

1567
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:11,479
I obviously don't think that that's what I'm doing.

1568
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:14,039
Speaker 15: I Uh, I mean to be clear, I don't think

1569
01:44:14,039 --> 01:44:16,159
that's I don't think that's what you're doing either. I'm

1570
01:44:16,199 --> 01:44:19,359
just interested in how you get to will a world

1571
01:44:19,399 --> 01:44:23,239
willing to submit to permanent authoritarian rule.

1572
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:26,079
Speaker 2: Will But but.

1573
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:31,239
Speaker 16: Again, uh, there there are these different gradations of this

1574
01:44:31,319 --> 01:44:37,840
we can describe. But is this so preposterous that the

1575
01:44:38,039 --> 01:44:44,159
entire world has submitted for fifty years to peace and safetysm.

1576
01:44:44,279 --> 01:44:46,800
This is a first Thessalonians five three. The slogan of

1577
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:51,000
the Antichrist is peace and safety, and and we've submitted

1578
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:55,720
to You know, the FDA regulates not just drugs in

1579
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:58,760
the US, but de facto in the whole world because

1580
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:00,920
the rest of the world. The first the FDA, the

1581
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:05,760
Nuclear Regulatory Commission, effectively regulates nuclear power plants all over

1582
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,640
the world. People, you can't, you know, you can't design

1583
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:11,439
a modul and nuclear reactor and just build it in Argentina.

1584
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:16,279
They won't trust the Argentinian regulators. They're going to defer

1585
01:45:16,359 --> 01:45:17,279
to the US.

1586
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:19,720
Speaker 2: And so it is at least it's at least a question.

1587
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 7: So he seems to be framing it like a libertarian

1588
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:28,560
would that Antichrist will be this sort of universal collective

1589
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:34,960
government control and so individual minded, you know, and cat

1590
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:41,399
libertarian people that are not collectivists therefore wouldn't be building

1591
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:43,960
or participating in a b system. So, but I don't

1592
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,079
think that it doesn't follow from that that just because

1593
01:45:46,079 --> 01:45:49,880
you're sort of libertarian or anti collectivists that you wouldn't

1594
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:51,920
be or couldn't be participating in the b system. I mean,

1595
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:54,560
they don't even seem to recognize that Antichrist is not

1596
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:59,439
a woman. But and then this is the next section.

1597
01:46:00,079 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 15: You would prefer the human race to endure?

1598
01:46:02,039 --> 01:46:02,239
Speaker 7: Right?

1599
01:46:03,359 --> 01:46:06,600
Speaker 15: Uh, you're hesit yet? Well, I yes, I don't know.

1600
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 2: I I would, I would.

1601
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 15: This is a long hemitation, long hesitation.

1602
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:15,159
Speaker 2: There's so many questions in place.

1603
01:46:15,279 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 15: Wouldn't the human race survive?

1604
01:46:19,199 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 2: Uh? Yes, okay, but but uh.

1605
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:27,119
Speaker 16: I I also would I I I also would like

1606
01:46:27,199 --> 01:46:29,680
us to to radically solve these problems.

1607
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:30,279
Speaker 2: And uh.

1608
01:46:30,319 --> 01:46:36,359
Speaker 16: And so you know it's always I don't know, you know, yeah,

1609
01:46:36,399 --> 01:46:41,680
transhumanism is this, you know, the ideal was this radical

1610
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:46,319
transformation where your human natural body gets.

1611
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:48,720
Speaker 7: I will say I wasn't expecting him to start quoting

1612
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:52,319
First Essalonians. That surprised me because I thought he was

1613
01:46:52,359 --> 01:46:54,960
not situating any of this in terms of the text.

1614
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:57,159
I don't. I still don't think he is, like in

1615
01:46:57,239 --> 01:46:59,640
terms of the book revelation. But it was odd that

1616
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:02,399
he saw to Bsalonias.

1617
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:07,039
Speaker 16: Formed into an immortal body. And there's a critique of

1618
01:47:07,119 --> 01:47:10,880
let's say the trans people in a sexual context, or

1619
01:47:11,239 --> 01:47:16,159
a transvestite is someone who changes their clothes and cross dresses,

1620
01:47:16,239 --> 01:47:20,439
and a transsexual is someone where you change your penis

1621
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:23,000
into a vagina. And we can then debate how well

1622
01:47:23,039 --> 01:47:24,079
those surgeries work.

1623
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:26,039
Speaker 2: But we want more.

1624
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 16: Transformation than that. It's the critique is not that it's

1625
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:33,079
weird and unnatural. It's man, it's so pathetically little, and okay,

1626
01:47:33,319 --> 01:47:36,720
we want more than cross dressing or changing your sex organs.

1627
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:38,920
We want you to be able to change your heart

1628
01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:43,319
and change your mind and change your whole your whole body.

1629
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:48,079
And then Orthodox Christianity, by the way, the critique Orthodox

1630
01:47:48,159 --> 01:47:51,199
Christianity has of this is these things don't go far enough,

1631
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:54,560
Like that transhumanism is just changing your body, but you

1632
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:56,960
also need to transform your soul and you need to

1633
01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:59,479
transform your your whole self and.

1634
01:47:59,399 --> 01:48:03,199
Speaker 15: So right, but the other way wait wait, sorry, I

1635
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:08,199
generally agree with your What I think is your belief

1636
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:13,119
that religion should be a friend to science and ideas

1637
01:48:13,119 --> 01:48:17,119
of scientific progress. I think any idea of divine providence

1638
01:48:17,199 --> 01:48:20,239
has to encompass the fact that we have progressed and

1639
01:48:20,319 --> 01:48:24,600
achieved and done things that would have been unimaginable to

1640
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:29,520
our ancestors, but it still also seems like, yeah, the

1641
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:32,239
promise of Christianity in the end is you get you

1642
01:48:32,319 --> 01:48:36,359
get the perfected body and the perfected soul through God's grace,

1643
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:38,520
and the person who tries to do it on their

1644
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:42,119
own with a bunch of machines is likely to end

1645
01:48:42,199 --> 01:48:44,079
up as a dystopian character.

1646
01:48:45,079 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 2: Well, uh, it's let's let's articulately this.

1647
01:48:51,399 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 15: And you can have a heretical form of Christianity. Right

1648
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:56,000
that says something else.

1649
01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:58,239
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1650
01:48:58,239 --> 01:49:01,319
Speaker 16: I think the word need sure does not occur once

1651
01:49:01,359 --> 01:49:04,600
in the Old Testament. And so you know, if if

1652
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:08,760
you you know, and there is you know, there is

1653
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:11,920
a word in which a sense in which the way

1654
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:15,960
I understand you know, the you know, the Judeo Christian

1655
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:19,399
inspiration is it is it is it is. It is

1656
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:24,000
about transcending nature, It is about overcoming things, and you know, and.

1657
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:29,680
Speaker 7: So Christianity is an allegory for transhumanism. It's a way

1658
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:33,399
to speak through like mythological language about the hope and

1659
01:49:33,399 --> 01:49:38,239
the promise of technology giving immortality and thus transcending nature.

1660
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:42,159
I mean, there would be an equivalent Hebrew term for nature.

1661
01:49:42,239 --> 01:49:45,199
So I'm not sure what he means by that this.

1662
01:49:45,279 --> 01:49:48,399
Speaker 16: Thing you can say to nature is that people are fallen,

1663
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:52,560
and that that's the natural thing in a Christian sense

1664
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:54,920
is that you're messed up.

1665
01:49:55,359 --> 01:49:56,600
Speaker 2: And that's true.

1666
01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:01,800
Speaker 7: See, that's the Calvinist view. Nature is what God created.

1667
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:05,039
It's the things that are what they are due to

1668
01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:09,720
being created and being given natures by God. So the

1669
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:13,520
divine nature is uncreated, and then everything else has a

1670
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:17,720
created nature and is according to Genesis good, It is

1671
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:23,520
good by nature. So I just, yeah, I think that

1672
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:27,560
what we got here is just an attempt to read

1673
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:33,439
Christianity as some sort of myth of the gods anticipating

1674
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:36,479
the ability of technology to give us the secrets of

1675
01:50:37,399 --> 01:50:41,199
you know, immortality through mastering nature.

1676
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:47,119
Speaker 5: The interviewer in that in the text, he says, he

1677
01:50:47,159 --> 01:50:50,399
goes on to say, working to build the hypothetical machine God.

1678
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:54,199
Don't think that they're cooperating with Yahweh Jehovah, the Lord

1679
01:50:54,239 --> 01:50:58,560
of host. Teal says, sure, sure, And the guy says

1680
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:00,720
they think that they're building in more time on their

1681
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:03,359
own right, And Teal says, we're jumping around a lot

1682
01:51:03,399 --> 01:51:05,720
of things. So again the critique I was saying is

1683
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,760
they're not ambitious enough. From a Christian point of view,

1684
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:12,319
these people are not ambitious enough. Then we get into

1685
01:51:12,319 --> 01:51:16,119
the question, well are they but they're not morally and

1686
01:51:16,159 --> 01:51:20,720
spiritually ambitious enough? And then are they still physically ambitious enough?

1687
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:25,880
So I wonder why he brought up Orthodox Christianity specifically.

1688
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:31,600
Speaker 7: Well, some people call just any Christianity that is adhering

1689
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:35,640
to its principles little o orthodox. Oh, I mean he

1690
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:39,520
might have meant actually Eastern Orthodox Christianity. I don't know

1691
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:47,960
what he meant, but that's a good question. I'm not

1692
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,119
sure in what sense. But now I've heard of this

1693
01:51:50,319 --> 01:51:53,680
ross do thought guy, but I don't know who he is.

1694
01:51:54,039 --> 01:51:55,319
Anybody know who he is?

1695
01:51:56,960 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 5: Oh, here's something interesting. He goes on to say, you're ready, Yeah, yeah,

1696
01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:06,600
he said. I had a conversation with Elon a few

1697
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:08,920
weeks ago. He said, we're going to have a billion

1698
01:52:09,079 --> 01:52:13,000
humanoid robots in the US in ten years, and I said, well,

1699
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:14,600
if that's true, you don't need to worry about the

1700
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:17,359
budget deficits because we're going to have so much growth.

1701
01:52:18,359 --> 01:52:25,479
All the growth will take care of this. Then they

1702
01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:33,399
just started talking about how these things aren't really thought through,

1703
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:33,920
like what.

1704
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 1: Are we going to do.

1705
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:38,840
Speaker 16: But you know, there's some ways that you know, with

1706
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:42,279
God's help, you are supposed to transcend that and overcome that.

1707
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 7: So this guy is just some sort of gnormy Roman

1708
01:52:47,920 --> 01:53:03,800
Catholic writer for the New York Times, I guess, or Harvard.

1709
01:53:05,199 --> 01:53:11,680
So he's the normy conservative supposedly, I guess, to interview

1710
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:19,039
and to give pushback against Peter Tail. So let's get

1711
01:53:19,039 --> 01:53:26,479
then too. The Landy a book. The interviewer is not orthodox.

1712
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:32,680
He's a Catholic, it says, So this.

1713
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:36,399
Speaker 5: Is all stuff that this guy saw coming ten years

1714
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:44,880
ago almost, and why everybody is so balkanized on different

1715
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:48,920
sides right now because of social media and just internet

1716
01:53:49,039 --> 01:53:56,319
use in general. Is the point of all of the

1717
01:53:56,880 --> 01:54:00,760
social media is to create AI and that is the

1718
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:03,439
spoiler alert at the end of the book. So he

1719
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:10,079
goes through ten arguments about how social media and internet

1720
01:54:10,119 --> 01:54:15,239
culture is just undermining society, right yeah, and.

1721
01:54:15,159 --> 01:54:17,239
Speaker 7: This is absolutely true. This is key. That's why I

1722
01:54:17,279 --> 01:54:20,760
shared that video of that girl that worked at TikTok

1723
01:54:21,279 --> 01:54:23,720
the other day and I said, it's a key, crucial

1724
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:25,479
video and it's going to tie into what Jamie and

1725
01:54:25,479 --> 01:54:29,119
I talked about because Jaron Lannie says that when he

1726
01:54:29,159 --> 01:54:31,199
was there helping and working with this stuff, like the

1727
01:54:32,239 --> 01:54:33,920
whole point of all of it was to make it

1728
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:38,239
addictive to feed the algorithms for the AI to control you.

1729
01:54:38,439 --> 01:54:42,359
Speaker 5: So he was an interdisciplinary scientist at Microsoft, so that's

1730
01:54:42,399 --> 01:54:44,520
how he would know. So he's on the inside, and

1731
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:48,720
he says that we are under constant surveillance. And this

1732
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:55,239
is even before like everyone had smartphones prodded by algorithms

1733
01:54:55,239 --> 01:54:59,039
that make that make people make money off of your behavior.

1734
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:04,920
Speaker 7: So manipula there he is. There isn't some masta instead

1735
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:08,079
of Wizard of All assisting nine. And this was a

1736
01:55:08,319 --> 01:55:15,079
very popular interview at the time twenty eighteen. It went

1737
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,000
pretty big. He went on all the channels. This one

1738
01:55:18,039 --> 01:55:20,479
got like four million views. But it's good to go

1739
01:55:20,479 --> 01:55:23,880
back and watch this because this was pre AI rollout

1740
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:27,720
and he's basically explaining everything like in terms of where

1741
01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:29,880
we are right now. Go ahead.

1742
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 5: So number one, his first argument of his ten arguments

1743
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:37,399
of why you should spend as little time as possible

1744
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:40,399
if you can help it on social media is that

1745
01:55:40,439 --> 01:55:44,000
you are losing your free will. And he's talking about

1746
01:55:44,119 --> 01:55:46,840
you know, you're in a cage that goes everywhere with you,

1747
01:55:47,119 --> 01:55:52,600
meaning your devices that you carry. Yeah right, and you

1748
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:54,279
know it's it's a cage.

1749
01:55:54,039 --> 01:55:57,039
Speaker 7: For your mind, man, yeah, me through your mind.

1750
01:55:58,159 --> 01:56:06,000
Speaker 5: So through continue adjusted stimuli, the advertisers become behavioral modification experts.

1751
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:11,520
And he talks about the early studies of behaviorism. You know,

1752
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:15,439
you've got be a skinner, You've got Pavlov and his

1753
01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:17,039
salivating dogs.

1754
01:56:17,119 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 7: Well, and it's the creating the feedback loop, like the

1755
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:20,720
Minds of Men documentary.

1756
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:22,720
Speaker 5: Yes, it's called operant conditioning.

1757
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 7: And I've talked about that a lot. But even when

1758
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:28,000
I when I went on with Catherine Austin Fitz ten

1759
01:56:28,079 --> 01:56:30,680
years ago, we talked about operant conditioning. That's also part

1760
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:37,680
of enchaultra don't listen to them, Okay, So.

1761
01:56:39,159 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 5: This plays into the early mid control experiments. And then

1762
01:56:43,199 --> 01:56:46,640
before at least you knew you were submitting to experimentation,

1763
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:50,279
he says, when they would do uh science experiments, you

1764
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:53,039
would like sign a thing. At least you knew like

1765
01:56:53,159 --> 01:56:56,600
they were manipulating you in some way, like they had

1766
01:56:56,640 --> 01:57:01,880
your consent basically. Yeah, But nowadays you are being experimented

1767
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:05,960
on and with without your consent by going to the

1768
01:57:06,079 --> 01:57:08,199
user's terms and conditions.

1769
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:09,399
Speaker 7: And submitting to that tos.

1770
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:13,560
Speaker 5: You're submitting to be part of a social science experiment, right.

1771
01:57:13,399 --> 01:57:16,199
Speaker 7: And that's what people are overlooking. They're thinking about am

1772
01:57:16,199 --> 01:57:19,239
I going to be censored or not? Well, you're committing

1773
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:24,520
your information to feeding a giant algorithmic machine. Again, it's

1774
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:27,800
not that big of a deal and individually, but collectively

1775
01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:30,239
it's feeding it. And this is what they want to

1776
01:57:30,279 --> 01:57:33,840
create for society, is this technocracy where we're basically just

1777
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:34,760
run by computers.

1778
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:39,439
Speaker 5: Right. And so you've seen that video where the former

1779
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:47,680
CEOs talk about the dopemine driven users and how it's

1780
01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:50,079
so bad for your brain and they won't let their

1781
01:57:50,159 --> 01:57:55,199
children use it. Yeah, right, So he talks about how

1782
01:57:55,239 --> 01:57:58,239
the feedback loops destroy how society works. They and they

1783
01:57:58,319 --> 01:58:00,479
regret creating it. They don't use it, they don't let

1784
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:01,319
their families use it.

1785
01:58:01,399 --> 01:58:01,600
Speaker 4: Right.

1786
01:58:02,399 --> 01:58:05,600
Speaker 5: He talks about how the old motto of Facebook was

1787
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:08,399
move fast and break things. So this is kind of

1788
01:58:08,439 --> 01:58:14,039
the mindset that you see when the technocrats talk about

1789
01:58:14,159 --> 01:58:16,960
like we're in a stagnation. They want to keep on going.

1790
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:18,800
It doesn't matter if they break things. That was the

1791
01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:21,520
whole ethos of Doge too, Like just get there and

1792
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:24,720
root around. It doesn't matter if we like crash things,

1793
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:27,680
because we're going to build back better. Right in their minds,

1794
01:58:29,159 --> 01:58:32,079
So and then the old Google models don't be evil.

1795
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:35,279
Speaker 7: I don't agree about that. Without about DOGE. I think

1796
01:58:35,319 --> 01:58:38,720
that what they were doing was correct, but it was

1797
01:58:38,760 --> 01:58:42,840
also potentially a step towards technocracy. But I don't think

1798
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:46,920
that shutting down USAID and trying to gut all of

1799
01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:49,880
these deceptive cutout programs was it self bad.

1800
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:53,079
Speaker 5: Well, it's just the ethos behind what they do.

1801
01:58:53,279 --> 01:58:56,159
Speaker 7: Like they just part of what they were trying to

1802
01:58:56,199 --> 01:58:59,479
sell is that, look, technocracy will fix these problems that

1803
01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:01,920
blow corrupt government can't fix.

1804
01:59:02,119 --> 01:59:06,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, then he starts talking about how so all of

1805
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:12,159
these things are so addictive, and then the different habits

1806
01:59:12,199 --> 01:59:15,000
of addicts and what they do, so they tend to

1807
01:59:15,119 --> 01:59:19,960
be more liars, they tend to be more isolated, they

1808
01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:23,279
don't have they gradually lose touch with the real world.

1809
01:59:23,359 --> 01:59:25,760
And so that's where you get people saying that we're

1810
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:28,359
elves and we're monsters, and we're Lord of the Rings,

1811
01:59:28,439 --> 01:59:30,960
and we're D and D and I want to switch

1812
01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:34,520
my body out with a anime cartoon or whatever.

1813
01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:37,039
Speaker 7: I'm more of a witch King of Angmar myself. But

1814
01:59:37,199 --> 01:59:37,680
you can be.

1815
01:59:40,119 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 5: Magic elf.

1816
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:45,239
Speaker 7: No, you're like, who's that elf they made up for

1817
01:59:45,319 --> 01:59:47,640
the Hobbit the girl from Lost?

1818
01:59:48,159 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah from Lost.

1819
01:59:50,119 --> 01:59:51,279
Speaker 7: You're more of an elf like her.

1820
01:59:51,359 --> 01:59:52,479
Speaker 5: Okay, I'll take it.

1821
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:54,079
Speaker 7: I'm more of a witch king of Angmar.

1822
01:59:57,000 --> 02:00:01,560
Speaker 5: So, yeah, you're losing touch with reality. You're starting to

1823
02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:04,159
think that elves are real. And if you grow up

1824
02:00:04,159 --> 02:00:06,279
with enough of this in your mind, that's how you

1825
02:00:06,319 --> 02:00:10,119
become Yeah, thinking that you live in a simulation, saying

1826
02:00:10,159 --> 02:00:14,119
that yes, and that reality is a simulation and we

1827
02:00:14,199 --> 02:00:16,479
can just do mess around and do whatever you want,

1828
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:18,600
Like Grind's talked about, like I can be a villain

1829
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:20,520
because none of this is real. It doesn't really matter.

1830
02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:26,319
It's just a simulation, right, So he talks about it's

1831
02:00:26,359 --> 02:00:29,319
not always about pleasure on social media, but it's also

1832
02:00:29,359 --> 02:00:32,479
about punishment and negative reinforcement, which is rage bait.

1833
02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:36,159
Speaker 7: So this is all prep for social credit, social credit

1834
02:00:36,479 --> 02:00:37,680
score and control.

1835
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:41,840
Speaker 5: And so the social media isn't it's two things at once.

1836
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:45,279
It's the pleasure and the pain that you get from

1837
02:00:45,319 --> 02:00:48,119
the dopamine spike, and then the rage bait brings out

1838
02:00:48,199 --> 02:00:55,600
your and he calls the whole thing the bummer machine.

1839
02:00:56,319 --> 02:00:59,399
So number two is quitting social media is the best

1840
02:00:59,399 --> 02:01:02,319
way to rise this insanity which we were just talking about.

1841
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:07,720
And the bummer machine is basically like you know, Facebook, Google.

1842
02:01:07,640 --> 02:01:10,439
Speaker 7: All of those, well, the infinity scroll. So here's what

1843
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:13,039
I've decided the way that I combat this. And it's

1844
02:01:13,039 --> 02:01:16,560
still difficult because I get tons of annoying DMS that

1845
02:01:16,640 --> 02:01:19,680
I feel like I need to answer, but I never

1846
02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:21,880
go to the for you because remember the for you

1847
02:01:22,079 --> 02:01:25,159
is there on all the platforms now to trigger you,

1848
02:01:25,680 --> 02:01:28,199
because they realized that when they get you engaged and

1849
02:01:28,279 --> 02:01:31,319
riled up, that you spend way more time on the

1850
02:01:31,359 --> 02:01:34,239
platform than if you're looking at what the people that

1851
02:01:34,239 --> 02:01:38,239
you actually followed are putting up. And Instagram was the

1852
02:01:38,239 --> 02:01:42,560
most insidious because they hid the people that you're following,

1853
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:46,680
and they make you, when you open up Instagram, see

1854
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:50,520
the for you, and so you have to literally go

1855
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:53,439
in there and find and click to change it to

1856
02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:56,880
follow who you're actually following. Otherwise it's just automatically the

1857
02:01:56,920 --> 02:01:59,439
for you on purpose to trigger you.

1858
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Speaker 5: It's for you to get mad at exactly.

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Speaker 7: That's what Landier is talking about. And then what's the

1860
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let's let's go ahead and get to the end of

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this with the revelation of it being a cult.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, So the bummer stands for behaviors of users

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modified and made into an empire for rent. So it's like,

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your mind is uh the product. So whether they say

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if something is free, then you're the product.

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Speaker 7: The algorithm is studying you and then putting the algorithm

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into you so that you become a robot.

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Speaker 5: Exactly.

1869
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Speaker 7: That's it. That's the whole thing.

1870
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Speaker 5: Well, not only that, like on the way to you

1871
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becoming a robot, you become an asshole in the ws.

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Speaker 7: The demoralizing to make you become part of the border.

1873
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Speaker 5: Because he already called it that the assholes get the

1874
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most attention. He calls it attention acquisition, leading to asshole supremacy.

1875
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Speaker 7: Say, that's this is the what's the problem. I'm the

1876
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meanest man on the interview. This is my world, baby,

1877
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I'm the oligarch that's going to be running shit because

1878
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I'm just so mean.

1879
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Speaker 5: So being an assholes incentivized attention equals currency. And if

1880
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you can make the most people mad, now meant it's

1881
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the meanocracy. So he talks about cramming content, directing behavior,

1882
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earning money for letting the worst assholes in society secretly

1883
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screw with everyone else.

1884
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Speaker 7: I don't think he's find that's us, that's me. This

1885
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is the meanocracy, there's all.

1886
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Speaker 5: Number three says social media makes you into an asshole,

1887
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so the addicts seek out suffering, And yeah, I was

1888
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agreeing with that, Like social media is like self harm

1889
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at this point, just going on there and people will

1890
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come become preternaturally quick to take offense, hoping to get

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into a fight, much like an alcoholic wal go looking

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for it.

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Speaker 7: And he was saying this in twenty seventeen. Sixteen eighteen

1894
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is when this book cames, okay, but he was saying

1895
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that before that. Yeah, Ause, he's writing the boat before that.

1896
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And this was way back before they had rolled out AI,

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before Twitter became a giant bloodsboard engine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: He says that people become aggressive on their their inner

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trol comes out. It's impossible to be authentic because you

1901
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can either you have to be like fake nice if

1902
02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:28,760
you don't want anyone to get mad at you, or

1903
02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:31,279
people are just gonna get mad for a reason. He

1904
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says there is a danger of falling into pack or

1905
02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:42,479
herd mentality when you're online, because others become archetypes. So

1906
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it's always like in us versus them, my team, your team.

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02:04:45,880 --> 02:04:50,680
You can't really like sit down and have a meaningful

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discourse or it's really hard to because you have reduced

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somebody to like your mascot of the t that you

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think they're on.

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Speaker 7: Mean Girl Summer, Yeah, Mean girl Summer. We who are you?

1912
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Are you Rachel McAdams, no.

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Speaker 8: Of the girls?

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Speaker 7: Or are you No?

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Speaker 5: I'd probably be that.

1916
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Speaker 7: Weird Stacy dash No, who's the black girl in.

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Speaker 5: In clus clueless? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Uh, it's says daniel Lewis ten dollars day. I know

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that it took you many years to convert toward the oxy.

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What were some of the topics or practices that took

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time to accept and how did you come to accept them?

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A lot of it and that was another not any practices.

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Just getting rid of all the tonism in Augustinian theology

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was a big part of it. And just problems with

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people at the local church. What was the main issues.

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Speaker 5: Well, so, yeah, reducing people to archetypes that you can

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then fight with because you believe that they are opposing you,

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and I mean I knew, well they do, but but

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not everybody. Like there's more nuance in gray area that

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social media cannot.

1931
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Speaker 7: So just making everybody fight with everybody.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it also makes what you say meaningless because it

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removes contact, nuance, audience, and accountability.

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Speaker 7: Well, it also is an infinity scroll and it goes

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away and nobody remembers what you said two days ago,

1936
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So it's all kind of like worthless.

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Speaker 5: Well, not only is that.

1938
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Speaker 7: Cheapening of discourse. That's why print is better.

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Speaker 5: AI is looking so real You're not going to know

1940
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what's real in the future.

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Speaker 7: Like, yeah, that's already where we're at, whether crisis of

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what's real.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So he even said this back then, bummers making

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everyone fake. I mean even all these accounts that are

1945
02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:59,279
huge turned out to be fake, a lot of the red.

1946
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you were saying that trad wife accounts were getting it.

1947
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Speaker 5: So what else? Yeah, it's dangerous to wake up and

1948
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you know, basically choose violence, like to try and think

1949
02:07:16,439 --> 02:07:18,319
of what's the worst thing that you can say to

1950
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get the most people mad at you. He talks about

1951
02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:27,760
how social media is just string empathy. Things become what

1952
02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:31,920
he calls filter bubbles or echo chambers. Most people only

1953
02:07:31,960 --> 02:07:34,359
have time to look at what their algorithm feeds them.

1954
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So it's like, it's not like we have a newspaper

1955
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where everybody can open it up and read the same

1956
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thing and then we can make our decisions and judgments

1957
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based on that.

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Speaker 7: That's how I'm saying. But there's a superiority to print

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word only because all the social media has developed the

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infinite scroll feed right, So it's not fixed. Books are fixed.

1961
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That's why you learn and you retain it and you

1962
02:07:57,880 --> 02:08:01,119
make notes, and it's fixed. It stays there, and the

1963
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infinity scroll it goes away.

1964
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Speaker 5: So they only have time to look at the algorithm

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is algorithm is feeding them. People's worldview is distorted and

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their view of others is diminished. Your version of the

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world is invisible to people who misunderstand you, and vice versa.

1968
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So this goes into uh, I told you I'm the

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arty one.

1970
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Speaker 7: The friend who's the arty one? Amanda, the one that

1971
02:08:28,159 --> 02:08:32,079
was in these are the mean girls, Rachel McAdams, whoever

1972
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she is in Amanda seaffret.

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Speaker 5: She was the girl from the waiting comedy that we

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watch what the caterers caterers?

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Speaker 7: Yea party down?

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Speaker 5: Yes, So the girl and Party Down is also in

1977
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Mean Girls. But she's not in any of these pictures.

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Speaker 7: Oh the Jewish girl.

1979
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Speaker 5: Yes, okay, that's me.

1980
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Speaker 7: Then you're not Jewish girl.

1981
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Speaker 5: No, but I don't fit in with any of these people.

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Speaker 7: I forgot this.

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Speaker 5: I don't care to.

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Speaker 7: I've gout. She was in it. Yeah, Lizzie, Lizzie something,

1985
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she's Lizzie kaplan If she's funny in Party down't.

1986
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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 7: Social media distriy lesbian?

1988
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Speaker 5: She's not lisbian?

1989
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Speaker 7: Yeah she was, wasn't She thought.

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Speaker 5: She was just artistic?

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Speaker 7: I think les go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Have you ever heard a theory of mind?

1993
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Speaker 7: I mean, in philosophy, there's theory of mind.

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Speaker 5: Sure, well, I mean in this context, it is being

1995
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able to empathize or you know, walk a mile in

1996
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someone else's shoes hypothetically, or try and understand where they're

1997
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coming from or why they would say the things that

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they're saying. So he's saying social media robs you of

1999
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being able to do that. Number seven, social media is

2000
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making you want to happy because the negative emotions are

2001
02:09:53,319 --> 02:09:57,439
utilized more readily. Of course, the system is going to

2002
02:09:57,439 --> 02:10:00,640
find a way to make you feel bad, and bummer

2003
02:10:00,680 --> 02:10:04,039
makes you feel judged in an arbitrary competition to no

2004
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higher purpose.

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Speaker 7: Right, she was the lesbian?

2006
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:08,880
Speaker 5: Oh she is Leslian I didn't.

2007
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Speaker 7: Jamie didn't mean that she loves me.

2008
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Speaker 5: I just meant the one that doesn't want to fit in.

2009
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Speaker 7: I know, you're the outcast. You're you're the female version

2010
02:10:16,640 --> 02:10:21,239
of Lloyd Dobbler, Okay, because Lloyd Dobbler doesn't fit in.

2011
02:10:21,079 --> 02:10:23,359
Speaker 5: Which everyone was homeschooled and doesn't give a crap about

2012
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being popular.

2013
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Speaker 7: So you're saying you're a Jewish cabalistic sorceress exactly. Okay,

2014
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So go ahead with the Lanier's conclusions here. Would you

2015
02:10:35,119 --> 02:10:35,920
recommend this book?

2016
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and it's a really short read. And if

2017
02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:39,600
you want to go through the whole thing with me

2018
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and Ruckus, I know we're kind of rush right now,

2019
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but we did it on my channel pull up. Okay.

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So yeah, just to sum up summer seven, eight, nine,

2021
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and ten, is that the constant comparisons to people are

2022
02:10:51,079 --> 02:10:53,840
causing you anxiety. And this is even before like Instagram

2023
02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:57,199
and all that blew up and just growing up trying

2024
02:10:57,239 --> 02:11:00,439
to get the most likes and shares and thumbs and

2025
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hearts and retweets and all of this stuff is really

2026
02:11:02,760 --> 02:11:08,159
damaging to your development as a person, especially if you're

2027
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a young person.

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Speaker 7: Well, and it's also destroying everyone's attention span so that

2029
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they can't actually read a book. That's what that girl

2030
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from TikTok was saying, was that she realized that not

2031
02:11:16,880 --> 02:11:19,039
only could you not read a book, she couldn't watch

2032
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a movie. Oh yeah, you didn't have the attention watch

2033
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a movie.

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Speaker 5: I feel like I've accomplished something if I watch a

2035
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movie without looking at my phone. Yeah, I mean I

2036
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still read a lot, but the phone's right next to me,

2037
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and I'm almost like, don't look at it. So number eight.

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Social media doesn't want you to have economic dignity. It

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promotes the gig economy not the best route to financial security.

2040
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Not that there's anything wrong with having gigs or side

2041
02:11:40,279 --> 02:11:45,560
hustles or whatever, but it's not like financially stable way

2042
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to run your life on gigs.

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Speaker 1: Right.

2044
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Speaker 5: Tech hippies from the nineties, he said, they were almost religious,

2045
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focused on making everything free. We were talking about that

2046
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before rapid growth. But also makes people into part time

2047
02:12:03,439 --> 02:12:07,520
lab rats. Ad makes them free, but you are the

2048
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product the advertising morphed into mass behavior modification. He talks

2049
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about social media makes politics impossible, because he said it

2050
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used to be thought that once the country went democratic,

2051
02:12:25,159 --> 02:12:27,079
it would stay that way. But we're seeing that that

2052
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is not true. Something is drawing young people away from democracy.

2053
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He talks about how social media can be a deadly

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weapon and ship posts can lead to revolutions. So that's

2055
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where we get the whole member Arab Spring and the

2056
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Color Revolution. So that was all facilitated in.

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Speaker 7: Part by social media.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see.

2059
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Speaker 7: By the way, if you want to support my stream

2060
02:12:54,760 --> 02:12:56,760
through a bitcoin, you can do so right here. This

2061
02:12:56,960 --> 02:13:01,079
is my wallet. You can send me a bitcoin support

2062
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:03,560
donation there to the wallet if you would like.

2063
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:08,359
Speaker 5: So the politicians that take on the bummer attitude of

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being an asshole are also outpacing, outpacing well meaning people

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because they get more attention, obviously. And then number ten

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social media hates your soul. He says, it hinders your

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ability to know the world and the truth. It cages

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you in a new spiritual framework. It's usurps your free will.

2069
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So he has all of these instances where he is like,

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it is replacing your faith, it's becoming a religion. Then

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he talks about AI and the Silicon Valley people.

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Speaker 7: This is the key point was that the conclusion of

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the book is that in Silicon Valley, they've already, according

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to him, come up with the idea that they will

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essentially create a pseudo religion around this.

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Speaker 5: Here's the crux of it. One of the reasons that

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Bummer works the way it does is that engineers working

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at Bumber companies often believe that their top priority, and

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among top priorities, isn't serving present day humans, but building

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the artificial intelligence that will inherit the earth. The constant

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surveillance and testing of behavior modification in multitudes of humans

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is supposedly gathering data that will evolve into the intelligence

2083
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of future AIS. One might wonder if AI engineers believe

2084
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that manipulating people will be AI's purpose. The big tech

2085
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company are publicly committed to extravagant AI race. This is

2086
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Project Stargate now that they often prioritize above all else.

2087
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It's completely normal to hear an exec from one of

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the biggest companies in the world talk about the possibility

2089
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of a coming singularity when AIS will take over. This

2090
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is like at the very last pages of the book.

2091
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So he saved all of this bombshell for like the

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last chapter in the last afterward talking about how Silicon

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Valley worships AI and what I did. I just read

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that all of the social media is to facilitate when

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AI will inherit the earth.

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Speaker 7: There is a NATO document that I've shared many times

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about that trolling would be used and how it's used

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even in psyops. So to theocracy enjoyer who's asking the

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question the chat, how is ship posting psyops and how

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could it spur a revolution? Let me see if I

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can find that k troll armies troll.

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Speaker 17: Sometimes sometimes this works better than actually, oh I found it.

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Speaker 7: There we go, can't believe I found this? Okay, let

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me re share this and then we'll see it over here.

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You want to read that you can't see that the

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role of emotions in the digital realm would allows the

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digital industries and their customers to dominic distinguish individual's crowd,

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and redefine personalization. At it talks about social media becoming

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perfect for polarization and the more anger spreads, the more

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users susceptable becoming trolls. And this is talking about the

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effect that social media has on emotions. And this is

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from the NATO Cognitive Warfare psyops document that I've lectured

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through and shared many many times. Simon Fouter sends two

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dollars New Zealand salt shaker. I didn't know you could

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send a salt shaker shaking like a Remember, do you

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follow me on X right here? And be sureing your

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copies signed right there in the shop at Jays Analysis

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in the show description is esoter Collor with three coming

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out in a few weeks. If you go ahead and

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sign up, get your copy right there. Otherwise, thank you

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guys so much. A lot of fun tonight, and be

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sure and followed Jamie around her channel and her show

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is linked. Her channel is linked and you can go

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to her longer presentation. What we talked about tonight with

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Ruckus and what is this?

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Speaker 5: It was just something I drew, uh, because I notice

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everybody just getting into fights over crazy stuff on social

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media all the time and getting upset at the wrong thing.

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So I just kind of drew a chart about what

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is the problem, and so at the top I put

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you know, Satan, because everybody is like, oh, it's the Jews,

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it's the Hamas, it's Maga, it's feminist whatever. That would

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be in the green section. Everybody you hate and you

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think is the problem, is really.

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Speaker 7: Down here in the middle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so the real problem is Satan or Lucifer, right,

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the evil one, and then the demons, principalities fallen, angels

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or aliens. And then in the blue you have humans

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who have knowingly aligned with the devil. These are the

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demons possessed. These are the secret societies. You don't see

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much of them. These are the bloodlines right behind the shadows.

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These are your cabal and they control the people who

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are visible to you to hate. This is your cults,

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your false teachers, your con men, your gurus, your you know,

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white men, the liberals, whatever you think is the problem.

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And these people influence the orange, which is everybody else,

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most of humanity living on autopilot or survival, your NPCs,

2148
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your non activists, your normies or your sims. Right, this

2149
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is like most people. Okay, this is like Uncle Bob.

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And then at the bottom is you yourself. So in

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you know, our worldview. The problem is you You don't

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attack the middle of the pyramid, the green. You bypass

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all of the it is and attack Satan. But the

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only way you can do that is working on the

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evil within you and being humble, and this is the

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part we never stop doing, so we don't are trying

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to attack the orange and the green levels.

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Speaker 7: One of the ways key ways to do that in

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our day is to either get off of social media

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or completely severely limit yes, your exposure to it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah and uh yeah, if you want the whole full

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breakdown with me and Ruckus, that is over on my channel.

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And I also got the members section set up on

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my channel and there's about four or five videos up already.

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So go take a look at Defense

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Speaker 7: Against the Dark Arts, go join Jamie's channel to become

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a member, and everybody, have a good night.

