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Speaker 7: The All right, what's up? Welcome everybody. It's that time,
and I've got good news, amazing news. News that we
are crossing our fingers remains good news. I think I
have all the tech problems resolved. Can you believe it?
Speaker 5: Did Gronk help you?
Speaker 7: Gronk helped a little bit, and the other part was
just a little bit of stick to itiveness, a little
bit of, as the members say, gumption. I pulled myself
up by my bootstraps, and I made myself hook all
of this stuff up. So everything's new except for the
mommy vice vibes or not new. But everything else in
here is new. There's new Max, there's new things, new camera,
next I'm going to fix the lighting because the lighting
is still funky. Can y'all hear me? Are we good?
We should be like full on fancy style. You know
you can see my black heads, right yeah?
Speaker 5: Put some donuts for me in the chat if you
can see and hear.
Speaker 7: God, put some donuts for Jamie. And the only difference
is now we'll be looking over here to this side
a little bit for clips and stuff. So when we
talk about this wook man over here, he's a wook,
but he's a good wook, This white Trustafarian man who
told us the truth in twenty eighteen, guess what Jamie
read his book. I keep calling him Jason Lanier, but
he's Jirn. He named Jaron Lanier.
Speaker 5: If it's a white dude with dreadlocks, you know it's
got to be some crunchy truths being dropped.
Speaker 7: Dude said, I was in eight K, We're in eight
We are in eight K full definition overnight, y'all going
to see my boogers tonight. We got what got what?
Speaker 5: Ten arguments for deleting your social media accounts right now?
So we just did on my channel a show with Ruckus.
Speaker 7: What'd y'all talk about this.
Speaker 5: Book, and we talked about that show Adolescence, and then
I had Courtney Turner on and we were talking about
Game B and the Dark Enlightenment. So that's all the
technocraft stuff.
Speaker 7: You're gonna tell me about Game B here in a minute, which.
Speaker 5: Is Game B for Beta mail Game Beta.
Speaker 7: That's good. Show everybody the book. So let's see the book.
Did you already show it? Okay? The book is ten
arguments for deleting your social media accounts. Now, don't everybody
in my audience do this, because then I won't have
no followers, we won't have no paypig.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 7: But the principles here are going to be correct, because
it's how you control and manage your social media that's
the real issue. And it's meant to be addictive, and
that's what we're gonna talk about. And everybody knows some
of the stuff. But it turns out Jason Lanier was
saying stuff about AI and about the addictiveness way ahead
of everybody else. And he was even saying that we're
gonna be ruled by algorithms, we're gonna control by this,
and it's all kind of a Silicon Valley tech cult facade,
And so we're gonna get into the meat and the
bones and the grit and the grits of it. And
we're also gonna watch some clips from the recent Peter
Thiel interview that has taken the Internet by storm. But
I'm just so excited about this fancy internets that we
got going.
Speaker 5: Everything you can't see is new, so it looks the
same to y'all.
Speaker 7: I'm turning into a tech man. I'm turning into a
story man. You see my funk gova. Do you want
to fleetion Frogger with me?
Speaker 1: I got an.
Speaker 2: It's a It's an emulator on a computer.
Speaker 8: We can play Frogger.
Speaker 7: I'm turning into a soy man. You Jamie doesn't want
to play. We have a pop of us husband and
wife Funko Pop because.
Speaker 5: You got married to one.
Speaker 7: I got married to fun Well. We have a dedicated
uh cool dude that literally had a funk pop mate.
I've shown you guys this, But I mean, I'm just
happy that we got all the Internet stuff is solved.
No more whining from the audience, no more boomer jokes
from the audience. You can't call me boomer anymore. You
can't say anything bad because I put all the money,
all the money everything, I'm just jugging, not really everything.
I sold my soul just to have mac Os with
the in for chip.
Speaker 5: Does that mean we're gonna get more smarter?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Can you imagine? Look at how smooth we're moving. We're
not swimming in a sea of pixels. We're swimming in
a sea of sixty frames per second. I think I
think I have it on sixty.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: So the whole night with with Grock making all this
nerd work, all this tech stuff, I hate it. I
hate this nerd shit. Man, I'm sick of it. We
got a super chat right away from Coolbert Kuta says,
the worship of Yakub makes us all brothers of Catholics.
That is part of attic in two. I like where
this theology is developing. So I believe in development of theology,
development of doctrine, and it's moving in the right direction.
Constructions on five dollars, yaka Ono said the inscriptions on
the Georgia guidestones were a string car tal ration. I
thinking that was my impression of you. I don't know
how she talks, but I'm assuming it's something like that,
but a's Brossie five dollars. That old head Roman Catholic
from the debate said that your neon flamingo was a
little skittles. Meanwhile, he had like a giant like rainbow
banner behind him. This is Miami vice dude. I don't
care what they like. They're the ones that are legit gay.
This is who thinks, uh, Sonny Kroc is gay? Dude, No,
he's straight up legit. That's the vibe. They're absolutely boomer
That sign is your most redeeming quality. Well, I mean
it's this Mimmi vice dude, Like, who has a problem
with that? By the way, that's like a Boomer era
show Boomer Jenac show Mason ten dollars. This is completely
unrelated to the video. But CPS is trying to take
my daughter. Oh oh, I wish there's any way that
I could receive help from the community. It would be
greatly appreciated. Well, I don't know what that could do
or what we could do. Man, we don't know you,
but we'll definitely pray for it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pray for that. That's a terrible that's the worst
nightmare scenario.
Speaker 7: I feel like it's a real like like I'm in
some kind of an almost real studio with this fake
ass plant and with this and with you and then
the mic in the middle. It feels like, I don't know,
like I'm on a you know, Conan O'Brien nighttime show set.
Speaker 5: When we upgrade, I was thinking we could make it like.
Speaker 7: This is the up us, this is the upgrade.
Speaker 5: We upgrade again again. Yeah, and we like get a
proper studio background. Well, I like our homemade aesthetic. I
even made you a homemade chart.
Speaker 7: We've got a chart to help out, help understand what
is the problem. Uh, you're gonna help us with the chart.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Do you want to do a Peter Thiel clip first
or do you want to do the chart or what?
This is your information? So I'm gonna chime in with
my information.
Speaker 5: Are you more interested in game be uh Dark Enlightenment
or drown or Peter Thiel?
Speaker 7: Why don't we start with something that I don't know about? Uh,
that is Game B. So tell us about Game B.
We're gonna learn some stuff.
Speaker 5: So that is Courtney's expertise. So I had her on
my show and the show is called Game B in
the Dark Enlightenment. So Basically it was.
Speaker 7: Do you got some game B?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: And what's not? Byes? We still have a friend or
high school and his whole thing. He always said, hey,
what's not be watch not B? So that makes me
think of like Adam from high school, Dude, what's that
b B?
Speaker 5: So this is all about building network states and linked
up with projects Stargate and the idea of freedom cities
or corporate city states that are like run like a company.
Speaker 7: So you mean like giant city states Megalopolis, Yes, AI
Tech Megalopolis is the megacity dystopian things in the future. Basically,
Judge dread the.
Speaker 5: Movie right, and in order to make these come about,
there's gonna have to be social unrest, there's gonna have
to cataclysms, there's gonna be a great reset and the
people to watch doing this. Game B one is named
Jordan Hall, who actually converted to Christianity not long ago.
Speaker 7: So do we think he's a real convert?
Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing. It's like they're kind of using
structures that are already in place.
Speaker 7: So they might want to take over the institutions. Yes,
so they institutional capture.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they call that the what do they call it?
Not the palace, the cathedral. Yes, the cathedral.
Speaker 7: There you go, so well, I agree with this analogy though.
The cathedral is a perfect analogy for the modern nonsense
in society.
Speaker 5: So they start speaking in like Christianese or like new
age Christian or christ consciousness, and that's where you get
the new people that convert their kind of sus. I
don't want to name names, but we can all think
of one, right, two. And what they want to do
is destroy the constitution and replace it with a president
that is like a.
Speaker 7: CEO or king, so a tech Nietzschean uber minh philosopher
king bro. Yeah, because democracy is bad. So democracies have
failed experience, right, and I agree. But here's the thing is,
like they they want to take the thing that's a problem,
a legitimate problem, and then give their solution, which is
just technocracy.
Speaker 5: And so this goes back to Plato's utopia, and the
technocrats and the programmers are going to be the new
priests class of the AI that we have to go
through to get to know the protected deity of AI.
Speaker 7: It's a deus ex machina, a god from within the system.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so they've been kind of trying to chip
away in the last maybe like fifteen years at certain
things like amendments and Bill of Rights and stuff like that.
Like Peter Till wrote about taking the vote away from
women like maybe ten years ago or more in an
article called the Education of Libertarian Education of a Libertarian Right.
Speaker 7: And their argument is that because women are the major
support base of the Democratic Party in the left, that
if there could be some future removal of the vote
from women, I don't know how you would even ever
achieve this apart from society collapsing. So it could tie
into accelerationism. I'm not saying that Peter Thiel and Curtis
Jarvin or these people are necessarily accelerationists. I'm not exactly
sure what their positions are, but it could lead to
that if you came to the conclusion that the only
way to reset society is to have some cataclysm that
leads to the reset.
Speaker 5: No, it's not based. It's just trying to knock down
all the pieces so they can set it up the
way they went Again.
Speaker 7: It's not the reason. Even if they say something based
like equalitarian equalitarianism is bad or democracy is bad, their
solution is that it's going to be a giant ai
carbon tax control system. That's the problem.
Speaker 5: So and these people, let's just talk about this for
a second. Their idea are not really grounded in reality.
So these are people who've been living in like fantasy.
Lord of the Rings, that's where Palenteer comes from is
the all seeing eye, and Lord of the Rings is
like the palaeer stone.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: Well, not that fantasy is bad, but we don't live there,
we don't spend too much time in the life.
Speaker 7: Well, it's a misappropriation of the myths of Western civilization
to turn it into something Nietzschean. So rather than it
being that, you know, the idea of being connected to
the virtues, this is removing the themes and the archetypes
of Western civilization and making it not about virtue versus
vice and the good and what is the good. It's
rather taking those archetypes and memes and patterns and making
them about the ubermensch and the philosopher king or the
tech oligarch. So you become the hero of your own
fans to see as the you know, reigning oligarch. That's
the problem with it. It's a misappropriation of those familiar
patterns and archetypes. But the leftists do the same thing
with archetypes and patterns and stories, which is what we're
presently living through. For example, they rewrite the stories and
appropriate them to leftist myths of egalitarianism, and all of
the old movies have to be redone with having women
as the hero and the archetype, and the warrior that's
not the warrior. So I mean, the woman is not
the warrior archetype. She is the feminine archetypes. She's the
one that's the princess that the hero saves. And they
want to reverse that in the leftist mythos, to create
a new mythology to convert everybody to the leftist cathedral paradigm.
The problem is that these people are doing the same thing,
but they're taking those archetypes and patterns, they're applying it
to themselves as essentially the first player characters in their
own fantasy.
Speaker 5: World, and they believe in metaphysical things. They believe in
magic and stuff. Let's talk about the Cybernetic Culture Research
Unit for a second, because connected to Peter Teele is
also Curtis Jarvin and a guy named Nick Land.
Speaker 7: So yeah, well, and our buddies at Senna have interviewed
Nick Land.
Speaker 5: So he is from this thing called the Cybernetic Culture
Research Unit, which was like if mss Calendar from Buffy
the Vampire Slayers started a club.
Speaker 7: But they don't know these references.
Speaker 5: So technopaganism basically. So she was a feminist who thought,
how can we use this new theme call the Internet
to help equality? And they just were using all kinds
of Yeah.
Speaker 7: The early phase of like nineties era punks, cipher punks,
anarcho capitalists, cyber pagans. They had this very equalitarian fantasy.
I think you even see this a little bit with
like Steve Jobs Andsniak from Apple, Like they believed that
when the personal computer came out, it would be this
great liberating thing that would essentially destroy all the existing institutions.
And probably to a degree it's kind of true, but
it's not going to do that for making everybody equal
and making everything fair. It's potentially the technocracy. If you
remember that old Apple ad from when the PC first
comes out, the matt first came out, it's nineteen eighty four.
Do you remember the ad and.
Speaker 5: Did something costs six hundred and sixty six dollars?
Speaker 7: Yeah, the first the first magnet, but it was supposed
to be this thing, hence the symbol of the bitten
apple right the Garden of Eden, So it's supposed to
be this liberating.
Speaker 5: Thing, which in the biography of Steve Jobs they said
that the bitten apple came from snow white, so it's poisonous.
Speaker 7: Interesting. Yeah, and also it might have a reference. I'm
not sure, but it might. I've just heard this. I
haven't looked into Steve Jobs that much, but might have
a reference to LSD too, because he was a pioneer
microdoser and a lot of the Silicon Valley people microdose
because they think, you know, it's kind of given them
inspiration and creativity and ideas, et cetera.
Speaker 5: Well, that goes along with this. It's the CCRU Cybernetic
Culture Research Unit, So it's like where we get the
ideas of like cyberpunk and gothic horror, critical theory, esotericism,
numerology and demonology a all mixed up in technology. And
this is the c are you yes? The group that
Nick Land was a part of it was a.
Speaker 1: Bad moon Ragian.
Speaker 7: Literally from the tech Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, well you just made me think of Hideline because
the moon is a harsh mistress and that's all about
like breakaway civilizations on the moon anyways. Uh so they
were for the experimental technoscience of self fulfilling prophecies, where
the means whereby the means of esoteric cybernetic principles, certain
ideas and beliefs that are initially income comprehensible can covertly
circulate back through reality. So like how Donald Trump got
elected the first time with the memoirs and and Kech
and Pepe and stuff like that. So this is the
kind of stuff they'd be studying, like how these butterfly effects.
Speaker 7: Would well some of these Yeah, and that makes sense
because some of these companies come out of in q Tel,
which was a CIA cutout for funding venture capital firms.
And that's what creates Pallunteer, That's what creates I want
to say, even like Facebook and ns Facebook and Twitter
even come out of this as well as sort of
experiments of deep state and CIA venture capitals or venture
capital firms. And so that's why you would get this
direct connection between the GCHQ, which is the British version
of the NSA. They were studying meme magic literally in
the twenty and twenty tens. I'm not saying that that's
the GCHQ got Trump elected. I'm not saying that they didn't.
They didn't want Trump at all. But the idea that
you can study the patterns of putting memes out and
then affect the mass consciousness, which is connected to like union,
archetypes and all that kind of stuff is absolutely studied
by these tech nerds at a very serious high level and.
Speaker 5: ISAA wisehep did a good like five or six part
breakdown of dark Enlightenment and he also had Courtney on
and they were talking about how this also ties into
super dark stuff like dark web and the stuff that
b X talks about.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the Satanic groups. Yes, Now wait a minute, so
what was the CC one more time? What was that?
And didn't you said they had something to do with
feminists too, like radical feminists?
Speaker 5: But well no, the one of the founders, the lady
I think her name is Sadie something, and so.
Speaker 7: She was Sexy Sadie yep.
Speaker 5: From the Beatles, and she was trying to do research
on how the open software and stuff of the Internet
because back then when they were developing these things, it
was kind of like a revolution to them that they
thought all of this stuff was gonna be free, right,
information is.
Speaker 7: Free now freewhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's going to free us up. And we're gonna
have so much time and technology and now that we
can share information, like we're just going to go leaps
and bounce in civilization. And so she was studying like
how can this help equality between the sexes at the
same time, but then it kind of got taken over
by these other people and went down a very like
esoteric path, like I think even Nick Land talks about
Kabala and so their technologicians will.
Speaker 7: Have to go listen to Yeah, the Centement interviews with
Nick Land, because I don't I relisted to it at
the time, but it was about two years ago, and
I don't remember what they talked about, but I know
they talked about like obviously psyops in film, but in
pop culture. But we'll have to listen to that.
Speaker 5: So all these people do not believe that freedom and
democracy are compatible anymore, and that I would agree with
that basically.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean even Plato and Socrates argued that democracies
become tyrannies.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because a true democracy is still.
Speaker 7: Susceptible to corruption and Well, the reason that it becomes
a tyranny, according to them, is that whoever's in power
wants to appeal to the largest number, and to do
that you have to have the lowest calm denominator. So
it becomes a race to the bottom to be the
controlling oligarch ask glob of people who are ruled by
their passions and not by their reasoning, or by their
self control, or by Christianity or virtues. So it becomes
beneficial to the oligarch to promote base things, to debase
the population so that he has a broader control of
the mass. That's the inevitable course of equalitarianism and democracy,
according to Plato Socrates, and I think that's true.
Speaker 5: We just picked up that old book about subliminal messaging,
and so they're taking all these techniques like Freud Brene's
propaganda subliminal messages.
Speaker 7: That's your audience, I know what I'm trying to think of.
You could look to me for permission to see if
what you're saying is correct. That's that's cool. That's why
you're not a feminist. You're you're bouncing the eye is
off of your lovely man.
Speaker 5: Well, it's easier to talk to a person than Michige.
Speaker 7: Those are all the people. Look they're real, look at them.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 5: But it's just like a little contraption.
Speaker 7: We're talking to How nine thousand, it's a little a
little red eye in there. Dreamy dreamy number one? How
starts going slow? These batteries a wear?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, where are we at? So we talk
about tm B. We talked about the technofagan does tell
me about dark enlightenment?
Speaker 1: That is.
Speaker 5: I mean, what is happening. It's the talking about being
a corporation instead of a country run by the CEO king,
lot of surveillance, obviously, a lot of robots, a lot
of robotoids.
Speaker 7: So who pioneers this idea about the robots, no, the
dark enlightenment? Who came up with this term? Who says this?
This is Nick Land? And then the idea of that
is what not just technocracy, but what specifically.
Speaker 1: Just the.
Speaker 5: Bringing the new revolution of technology? And so they're talking
about life extension and that's what we're going to talk
about when we pull up the Peter Teal clips. So
they're replacing religion.
Speaker 7: Is the dark enlightenment that democracy has done? And we
need a tech uber manage.
Speaker 5: Yes, well, people can't govern themselves. So it's like every
form of government has failed throughout history and including this one.
Speaker 7: So we need a new computer thing.
Speaker 5: Yes, so it has to be something above humans.
Speaker 7: I want my mac to run my life, right, and
man kind of needs to be run by a mac.
Speaker 5: We're not smart enough to do it.
Speaker 7: It's a return of the mac. But not Mark Morrison.
It's the return of the mac os.
Speaker 5: Right, yes, come on, oh yeah. But it also resembles
a lot of things that Alshra Crole would talk about
in his Utoken Society. So he got liber Oz that
talks about the very stratified civilization where you have your
technocrat magicians and then you have your servants who don't understand.
And that's where he talks about the slaves shall serve
in liber Oz.
Speaker 7: I remember that that's important because Crowley had a very
similar ideology to a lot of these tech oligarchs, and
I think that's why many of them have found also
some degree of overlap and fascination with Croley. I can't
think of any that are explicitly Crollian. But one thing
that you started looking into, which I talked about a
year ago, I did a podcast some of this about
a year ago or maybe two. Is the guy Peter
Carroll who's actually if Crowley is the grandfather of Satanism
modern Satanism, Peter Carroll is actually the father of modern
Satanism because he's the father of cyber magic and chaos magic.
So a lot of people that are in the tech
sphere are also influenced by Peter Carroll Andy tech magic.
And if you remember, it came out some years ago.
Not being able to find this article, but I think
it was Wired maybe ten years ago. There was an
article talking about how at burning Man, when the Silicon
Valley elite come, they have their own private burning Man
that is a quote secret society that engages in rituals
whereby they think that through ayahuasca, peot LSD, they're tapping
into the forces that are going to help them erect
the technocracy. There was a huge Wired ride up. Some
former friends of ours put it in one of their documentaries,
so I remember reading it.
Speaker 5: Someone said, what about Anton Levey and yeah, that plays
into this too, because he thought that androids were going
to be the next car.
Speaker 7: Basically, yea sex bots is like the new car.
Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone's gonna have robot companions.
Speaker 7: He was you talking about a model t I'm talking
about a model TNA. Baby.
Speaker 5: That's really good.
Speaker 7: I'm pretty good with Wordsmithery. By the way, did you
watch the new sam Hi Boomers?
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Well, Peter Till doesn't like boomers either, So hey,
I'm starting to like Peter Till.
Speaker 7: Now we can just we can both be skittles men
on his floating tech island. I'm joking. Go ahead, well.
Speaker 5: So yeah, Silicon Valley is.
Speaker 7: Really big on Silicon Uncanny Valley. Right, that's a podcast
title for you right there.
Speaker 5: They are big on social Darwinism, yes, and uh, mysticism,
like you would think it's just nerds in math, but
it's not.
Speaker 7: It's no, it's did you hear what I was saying
about the Burning Man thing? When two minutes ago Burning
Man the cult? Don't you remember when Aaron and Melissa
had a whole thing in the in their documentary about
the guy. The Silicon Valley elite that go to Burning
Man have their own private, secret society where they do
ayahuasca and tap into the gods.
Speaker 5: Well, and that makes sense because it's like Wickerman. It's
kind of.
Speaker 7: Wickerman it's a it's a an American corporate, pseudo fake
counterculture version of Wickerman.
Speaker 5: And these guys, well, they're also very interested in the
life extension. And then he was looking into companies that
could do blood transfusions.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I remember when Peter till was talking about
getting youth blood put into you. I remember that, and
it was the same time that it came out the
Kim Kardashian was getting vampire facial vampire facials. And when
I was on with Elijah, we were talking about Peter
Teel and I read the section in his book zero
to one where he talks about Pallenteer basically just creating
all the tracking identification software for the CIA and the NSA.
And we wouldn't have had been Lauden taken down if
we'd not had Vallaunteer finding bin Laden. That's what's in
the book. But also there's a section where he talks
about cryogenics.
Speaker 5: And this is going to uh.
Speaker 7: Is that where you're going to the cryogenics part.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the life extension when he talks about Christianity and
stuff and transhumanism. But I just wanted to mention that
this is going to be tied into currencies too, and
like different maybe cryptocurrencies or like a centralized cryptois.
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is all connected to the idea of having
a CBDC, which is not Bitcoin, by the way, but
a central bank digital currency which is in some way
tracked and traced. It's connected to UBI. So the idea
is that the technocracy will actually free you from even
having to work. So there's this Marxist socialist element that's
part of it utopian ideas. And then when you're free
from work, you can supposedly just you know, live in
your coompod and your goon pod and you know, have
sex with bronies all day long or whatever, dragons, whatever
does you do when you don't have anything to do,
And that's what's being offered. But if you remember the
Bill Joy essay that we've lectured through, which is one
of the key elite texts why the future doesn't need us,
Bill Joy was saying that when they were having these
big deepop tech meetings, they were saying back in two
thousand that we've already made the decision to get rid
of the people. In other words, we're not going to
create some sort of com pod utopian fantasy we're just
gonna get rid of you. Yeah, that's the purpose of
that famous essay alex Is talking about it for twenty years.
Speaker 5: You'll just be recycled into the mother Earth again.
Speaker 7: I'm imagining like convincing people to get in their goon
pod where they think they're going to like live in
the sex matrix forever, and you get in there and
it's just this machine that turns you into like sludge
that then powers the AI. Yeah, the goof you turn
into black goo that that powers the AI. So it's
not like the matrix where you're like you're a battery.
Now you just get turned to sludge and then you're like.
Speaker 5: Filtered into like the that lubricates.
Speaker 7: You're the blood. You're the black AI blood of the
borg Hive mind system. They'll be good blood.
Speaker 5: Well, oh, I was just gonna say so. Peter till
Uh and Elon Musk created PayPal with the idea in
mind that someday they were going to have a currency
that replaced the dollar.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, there was gonna be an E dollar. And
there's a white paper from MIT that's about the E dollar.
And what's super annoying about this is that everybody who
wants to debunk bitcoin. They point to this thinking that
that's bitcoin. Bitcoin is the opposite of an E dollar.
Dollars are not attached to anything. They are fiat, they're
not a hard asset. So the E cash E dollar,
I guess conceivably could have been attached to gold if
they had decided to make an E dollar that was
attached to gold. But there's never going to be a
gold standard. That's not gonna happen. So the only way
to solve the economic problem that's at least feasible is
what bitcoin is now. That is the answer to the dollar.
It is not the fiat E dollar CBDC system. CBDC
competes with bitcoin. Those are competitors.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's always been their dream to have a
website that was a social network that all your data
was on and that you also did your banking.
Speaker 7: And that's why, that's why in q tel. According to
Melissa Mela in her CIA book that we've talked about,
I've cited it for ten years, she's the woman that
was the handler to Angelina Joe Lee when she was
training for her CIA studies for the movie Salt. Right
around the time that she becomes a member of the CFR.
She's studying under Melissa Mela, who wrote in her book
that in q Tel was a CIA front company to
do pallunteer Facebook, And this was all stuff that Corbett
talked about even ten years ago.
Speaker 5: Have you seen the orbs?
Speaker 7: Let's not bring Sam Chaman into this.
Speaker 5: It's like the orbs that not Shimun's orbs. What was that.
Speaker 7: Movie the orbs? What you're talking about? You talking about?
You're talking about Lord of the Rings with no hold on.
Don't be looking inside them orbs?
Speaker 5: What's that movie?
Speaker 7: Crazy?
Speaker 5: The Mustard Blood and the orbs that flare around and
kill you.
Speaker 7: Yes, Mustard Blood. I knew immediately she was talking about
Phantasm boy, Cleer boy. Phantasm is great.
Speaker 5: You can't find the orbs?
Speaker 7: Well, I was gonna pull up, Oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Sam Altman's World orbs your.
Speaker 7: Oh okay, yeah, I know you're talking about.
Speaker 5: Okay, Sam Altman's World Orbs come to the US. Yes,
now I don't. He's the one I know least about.
Do you know anything about him?
Speaker 7: Well, he's like Elon's nemesis because they started to open
Aye and Elon supposedly says keep it open and then
sam Altman made it a billion, multi billion dollar company.
Speaker 5: Oh, I think it's so funny how Trump is like, boy,
there's the phantasm orb and now look up sam Altman's orbs.
I think it's so funny how Trump is like triangulating
all these technocrats to get uh them to fight over
his attention? Who President Trump?
Speaker 7: What is this things supposed to be?
Speaker 5: I don't know, an I it's man made horrors beyond
our company.
Speaker 7: What is it? Is it like? Is it like Alexa
or something?
Speaker 5: I don't know what.
Speaker 7: I looked into sam Altman's ORB and all I got
was lousy crypto. Oh this is connected to his orb
coin that was supposed to be like the global coin
that I think. I think this failed. I don't I
don't remember much about this, but yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah do.
Speaker 7: Why don't you ask the ais? They would be the
ones that know, aren't they the aren't they the a?
The Let's ask grog.
Speaker 5: And see did you know Peter Tile.
Speaker 7: Was hold on? Let's ask before you what is what
does sam Altman's ORB do.
Speaker 10: Sam Altman's ORB, created by his startup Tools for Humanity,
scans your iris to verify your human not a bot.
It generates a unique digital code called a world I
D which acts like a global passport for your humanity.
Pretty wild, right, It's all about proving you're not a
bot in.
Speaker 7: This digital Oh, if you're not a bot right now,
I can't do it. You can't. No, not without the orb,
not without the Orb of destiny.
Speaker 1: Have.
Speaker 7: I don't know whether i'd rather have some Sam Altman's
ORB or the orbs and phantasm that like jack into
your brain? Which one you want? They're both pretty, both
of them, and they're both a nightmare. Dude.
Speaker 5: I don't want Sam Chumun's orbs. I don't want phantasm orbs,
and I don't want.
Speaker 7: Basically, just stay the hell away from orbs. There's nothing
really good in the ORBS sphere. There's nothing we really
want to be involved in all seeing. I have read
cyber not says for five dollars that he cannot handle
my chest here. I understand it's okay, uh Anti Orbuel
Jordan Lofgan, What kind of butter you got on that camera?
I ain't never seen nothing so smooth before. It's called
ten eighty p sixty fps with a a macOS fast
fancy computer. It's a fancy motherboard a cyber not ten dollars.
Did you see the movie Thank You for Not Smoking?
Thank You for Smoking?
Speaker 5: A long time?
Speaker 7: It was executive produced by Elon and Peter Till. I
didn't know that. I remember hearing about that, but I've
not watched it. It's about the tobacco lobby in two
thousand and five. Interesting, so as soon as they got rich,
they were like, let's make some movies, Jo say el
on ten dollars. The excitement of logging in is seeing
that there is a stream of Jay and Jamie that's great,
and that's not full of glitches and latency and skipped
frames and frozen screens. Can you believe that we achieved this?
It only took five years to figure out how to
get a fancy ass Mac to make this actually run.
It only took five years. Actually, it probably took more
because no, you know, I don't think when I was
from twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen, when I was streaming
in seven twenty, I don't think I ever had these problems.
But as soon as I tried to stream in ten eighty,
it was just five years of problems. But thanks to
you guys, we have upgrade we.
Speaker 11: Got an upgrade up in here, Pop Pop is popping
off his upgraded Jewish skeptic five dollars. Step into the water,
wait a little bit deeper, wete.
Speaker 7: Your feet in the water of his love for Baptist ms.
Even ever you converted from Easter in Orthodoxy Judaism, is
that you or who for Orthodoxy to Judaism. Seeing Baptist
hymns about converting from Orthodoxy to Judaism, that's pretty wild.
It kind of makes sense though, because I met one time,
one time a Baptist dude called in who was no
he was becoming Jewish and it was former Baptist. That
was pretty weld. H Brozy five dollars. He's demand that
you acknowledge him.
Speaker 5: Hello, h Browsey, five dollars.
Speaker 7: Austin he acknowledged Austin Henley five bucks. All right, Stop
being cute, all right, stop be cute and listen. Ice
is back with a brand new avention something a hold
of me tightly. It was like a harp daily and nightly.
Will it ever stop? I don't know. Yes, I have
vanilla Ice tape. That's not true. That's that must be
a new viewer because we do half of over half
of the live streams over here are just nonsense and silly.
And I'd rather be doing that than all this idiot
anti christ Roman callit nonsense. These people are crazy. What
are we just? Vanilla Ice? I had this first, this tape, dude,
this was I thought this was so awesome when I
got this tape, the actual Yeah, no, that's not it,
that's not that, not the best of I want the original.
Actually it popped up right here. This to the extreme,
to the extreme, man. I remember when I got this thing.
I was like, yes, this is so cool, dude, look
at that tape.
Speaker 5: Do you think Vanilla Ice?
Speaker 7: We were just talking about it, Jamie and I were
talking about today. Can you believe that Vanilla Ice ended
up being like the most Chad and Bays of the
nineties rappers? All the other rappers ended up being faking gay,
and then Vanilla Ice ended up being like fifty million
dollars with a bunch of cars in Miami. And everybody
was making fun of Vanilla Ice too. After his one
hit Wonder in his album, everybody was making fun of
all the new Ice. He sucks white white, and then
he ends up being the one that's actually straight and wealthy,
and all the other ones like lost all their money
their gay, except for maybe doctor Dray. He might not be.
He's a little weird, but I don't think he's gay.
Do you?
Speaker 5: Is he married?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I don't think so.
Speaker 7: Our rap fans in the audience can let us know
what the latest info is on. But know Ice now
he's living it up in Miami with He's got nineteen ninety.
Speaker 5: His movie was funny, too cool.
Speaker 7: I mean it's so bad. It's a good riff tracks. Yeah,
it's like terrible. Remember his Oh yeah, I forgot. He
had a reality show. Remember that. No, yeah, he had
a really show. Yeah, he was like redoing houses, flipping houses,
that's what he did. That's right. Like I think his
car is alone or worse most like millions and millions
of dollars anyway, But Ice is at least as far
as we know, straight and them, he's just ends up.
He ended up being better than like all the other
so called bad bad boy gangster rappers who were all
like faking gray dude.
Speaker 5: Anyway, someone says Dre equals Rainbow Flags.
Speaker 7: Doctor doctor Gay. Hold on, I'll typing to the wrong
I'm getting mixed up here. I gotta type into this
fancy computer. I'm so used to typing into that old
ass crap computer slowly whiteboards. Here is doctor, doctor Gray,
doctor Gay. Sug Knight says, doctor, he's doctor Gay. I
don't know, man, I don't know if I can believe
sug Knight though, because he tried to throw an ice
off of a balcony. Dude, I don't believe him.
Speaker 5: Well, was tupac skittles or well?
Speaker 7: Hold up? Talk about vindication. If sug Knight was gonna
throw vanilla ice off of a off of a balcony,
hasn't vanilla ice come out on top of all of
this stuff? He's he's beating everybody. This is crazy, all right,
what's up? What did you say? I don't know, Jordan loughgrin,
Someone get me out. Five dollars, Give me out of
this contraption. What contraption? Oh? It meaning that he's in
this little machine.
Speaker 5: See them. He wants to be real, he says, can
anyone see me? Let me out of here. I want
to be real.
Speaker 7: He's inside that little black Machineum, there is anyone there?
Ohst of five dollars, I've never seen Jay looking so happy? Well, hey,
after five years of never being able to figure out
how to solve the computer problems and spending all night
last night hooking all this crap up, literally like until
two three in the morning. Yeah, I'm happy, Mike three
horrifying two dollars. Do you mean doctor dre or I
think it was about the word he means, I'm making jokes.
He's talking about Jason Jaron Lannier's his dreads are horrifying.
Ryan Beamish five dollars talk about Ashton Forbes in the
MG three seventy conspiracy in the orbs. I'm not gonna
talk about that because I think it's dumb. I just
think there's no warp technology where their orbs are creating portals.
That's all. I think that's all fake. But I appreciate
your question. Prophetic ten dollars. Do you think the future
of America will be crackers only? Or do you think
that other citizens have a place in this I can't
say that country without having to worry about second class citizens.
I don't really see any way out of fixing this country, honestly,
so I don't know how to even even answer that.
Speaker 5: I don't think America ever even could be a white
only country because it was already Okay, I don't think
it ever could be just because we're who's here already,
we're cooked.
Speaker 7: So figure out how to get your big coin and
be ready to go out in the country. That's all.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 5: It still could be a good nation, even a multi ethnic.
Speaker 7: Well it's always been multi ethnic, so that's not the problem.
But when you import like massive amounts of people from
the Third World, that's the problem. No, but we probably
shouldn't talk about this stuff should be I mean, just
think about the YouTube guidelines of what you can and
can't say.
Speaker 5: I would just say, like there's a difference between somewhere
like Ireland and some are like America, Like, yes, Ireland,
I think it could be a mostly one ethno state.
Speaker 7: Ireland. Yeah yeah, I mean like Japan, right.
Speaker 5: Or even Britain or somewhere like that.
Speaker 7: But well they're all cooked, so it doesn't matter anymore.
H BROSSI fi dollars. This due prophetic is either an
Indian LARPing as black or fed posting h one. Watch
Jaddy Jones watch my episode two of Sam High that
I wrote on It's not my you know what I'm saying.
The episode of sam Hi Show episode two, because that's
about h one b Visas and all that. No, no,
I'm sorry episode one. No, both of them are because
episode one is dear Elin, episode two is dear Vivac
about that stuff Jewish captic. Oops, I meant converted from
Judas in the Orthodoxy. God bless you, Jane James. Step
into the water, wait out a little bit deeper, join
the angels singing praises to the Lamb of God. Boom
boom boom. Thankfully I never heard that one growing up.
I remember, yeah, I always heard that one. But this
is the one I'm thinking of the Gaithers.
Speaker 5: I remember them.
Speaker 7: Oh man, this is the worst. I can't stand this stuff.
Here's the cathedrals. This is some boomer Grandma Shore right here, listen,
listen's right here.
Speaker 12: Ready, Well, what do you say about this next young man?
Nobody has ever come along and got some music like him.
Speaker 7: Ain't nobody ever sung?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Absolutely, He's an institution within himself. Uh, would you welcome
mister kirk Telly.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, it's him. It's kirk Telly. It's really him.
It's Kirk Kelly, Charlie, Kirk Telly, Charlie Kirk a little niche. Well,
here you go.
Speaker 3: I was three of the seven in the water. I
wrote that song after hearing God a preacher.
Speaker 7: You think Kirk Cameron over here is straight.
Speaker 3: Hoskins just used that phrase in a sermon that he
preached at a revival that the cathedral sang in nor
North Carolina.
Speaker 7: And with the anticipation is just killing me. Get into it.
Speaker 3: Kirk sitting back in the choir and behind phild we
had sung and he was speaking, and he's said, it's
time we as Christians need to step into the water.
And I don't know why that struck a bear with me,
but I just knew there was a course there, and
so I took out a pen and paper and wrote
the chorus.
Speaker 1: Just.
Speaker 7: Here we go. That's what I'm talking about, stepping into
the water. Wait, I had a little bit deeper.
Speaker 5: Riders always have the best bases.
Speaker 1: They have.
Speaker 7: All the Oakridge boys had the same. Da can go
ideo my mile male idio.
Speaker 8: Hell up my hearts on fire, hell lye Rup.
Speaker 1: Does the thing.
Speaker 5: They go crazy like when he goes oh yeah.
Speaker 7: All the when the Oakridge voice singing, the women go
crazy at the guy with the bases. You know what,
there's something to this because, uh, remember when we were
watching all of the women reacting to their righteous brothers,
and then when they start singing certain notes or when
certain deep voices come on, the women go, there's something
about a bass voice that vibes with y'all, females. What
do you think?
Speaker 5: Okay, play the song.
Speaker 7: I'm afraid if I play too much of this though,
it's it's gonna be we're gonna get copy Dante into
the water. Wait, eye a little bit deeper. Yeah, that's
that's the Baptist Church right there, dude, Ace BROSI. You
know we did the quantum yakub five dollars of all
the Roman Catholics. Who do you see potentially converting? First?
I don't know, man, I mean, who's left that isn't crazy?
Speaker 5: That's the thing. If they have a channel and they're
well known, they won't convert because it's all.
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, you gotta get up, you gotta get over.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like, uh.
Speaker 7: Troy throw dogs five dollars. If it's true that it
was a clear and black knight, a clear white moon,
Warren G's on the streets trying to consume it was
a clear black Night, clear white Moon. Warren G's on
the street. You know that one? No warreng G And
just hit the east side of the LBC on the
missing of Farms to warn G. You know Nate Dogg.
She knows Nate dog She's heard me play Nate dog music.
Andy remember Nate Dogg. Yeah, and has like three or
four good songs. There's music in me. There's a weed
song and then there's uh the one with Warren G. Anyway, Myron,
Chuck ten pounds, where are we at? Thank you for
putting THHX three one one three eight back on the radar.
Do you have any thoughts about Lucas and Henderson being
on the same track at least in the seventies and eighties. Uh,
forgive me, Myron, who Who's Henderson? I don't remember? So
I did just do a long chapter on THHX one
with three eight four Starclay with three, But I apologize,
I don't know about Henderson. Off the top of my head.
I think it's there's a lot of those seventies movies
like Borston that did Logan's Run. A lot of those
seventies dystopian movies were all kind of on the same
in the same thread Mike three five dollars lmao, Yes,
the Orbs, but also doctor Dread's Charlie Kirk smile five dollars.
Did you see Trent flag? Yeah? I shared the weird
Skittles banner on Twitter and on YouTube every day. I'm
struggling twenty dollars, Part one, Jay, I heard somebody say
that uncontacted tribes in the Amazon who haven't heard the
Gospel can have a relationship with God since he condescends
to our nature, he said. Paul said this, Well, whatever
relationship or connection they have, it doesn't appear that through
the knowledge that they have that's natural, that it's enough,
because anybody who is going to be quote save requires
supernatural grace. So I would say the only way that
they would get out of this is if God in
some special way preaches the Gospel to them or shows
them the person of Christ. And that can happen. Christ
can come to people in a vision, He can appear anywhere,
even if humans fail to preach the gospel right. So,
for example, in the Book of Revelation, we hear of
an angel flying through the heavens preaching the gospel. So
even if it fails in terms of human exertion to
go and reach every tribe or something like that, or
there's unreached peoples. Conceivably that could still occur through God himself.
For example, we hear of Muslims. I don't know how
true this is, but you hear these stories all the
time that Muslims have dreams and the real Christ comes
and speaks to them. They realize that the fake Jesus
in the Koran isn't the real Jesus. Every day I'm
sruggling one hundred dollars. My question is, how do we
draw the line between the sentiment of Vatican Two's Roman
Catholic ecumenical positions. Don't we run into a danger in
terms of the incarnation. It's the arbitrary of a tribe,
it's capable communicy and God without the Gospel. Yeah, exactly,
That's what I'm saying, Like, you can't connect. So the
presence of the Spirit, according to Saint Maximus in one
of the ad thalassiums is that yes, the Spirit is
everywhere present, but not in the same way or the
same mode. So the presence of the Holy Spirit and
the sacraments of the Orthodox Church are unique, just like
there's no eucharists out there in the jungle. So whatever
means and ways by which God reaches those people, it
still has to be some revelation of the person of Christ,
and God can do that. But that's really the only way.
It can't come just through the innate knowledge of nature
or something like that. Hence, what has to be this
supernatural connection, because salvation is faith comes by hearing hearing
about the Word of God, and so faith is partly knowledge.
It's not totally just knowledge or an assent to propositions.
But that's why Paul preaches to the Pagans, and he says,
the one that you don't know is the one that
you need to know. Serious machines five dollars. Do you
have any thoughts on hide like comedy. It feels like
he was ostracized and now he's blowing up. Yeah. Absolutely,
I mean, is there more new raw comedy coming that
will combat the current paradigm. That's an interesting question. I
mean Sam is kind of at the forefront of the
cutting edge comedy right now. I mean Sam Tripoli is
partly part of that. Leonarda is partly part of that.
But of course, you know, stand up is a little
different from like other types of comedy that's, you know,
sketch comedy, or like Sam Hide Show, which is a
mix of monologues and riffs and sketch comedy. So I
don't know, that's a good question. Who's the next cutting
edge funny people. Maybe we are, maybe we are over here,
but that's what we'd like to see because when you
have like a takeover of the liberal elite structure the cathedral,
then the only people that are going to be against
the establishment or counterculture are the ones that are comedians
that are not the crazy libs. But there's not many
of those, but you guys in the chat, I'm sure
you guys could think up some other I actually was
thinking about doing a show just on like favorite comedy,
favorite Scotch shows, and favorite comedians. That'd be a funny show.
We've talked about on Twitter, but I've actually done the show.
But great question, And remember go check out Sam Hid Show.
The new episode is Boomers, and then we got a
couple more already kind of ready to go pretty soon.
Every day I'm strugging five dollars Part three? Why would
God subject people to being born outside the ability to
hear the gospel. Well, the church fathers have speculated about
this with Christ preaching the Gospel to the dead, not
that that's speculation, but you have Saint Cyril and you
have John Damascus speculating that if Christ preached the Gospel
to all of the dead in the Old Testament, which
we know we need to send into Hades, it's possible
that somehow he does preach the Gospel to everyone. Jay,
do you come that glorious Maine on your chest, Cyber
Not this dude is talking at about my Chester a
little too much kind of where I feel feeling a little.
I feel a little awkward.
Speaker 5: Thought over here.
Speaker 7: I feel not me, not me. Hell no, I'm afraid
that we get I'm afraid we're getting Roman Catholics in
the chat now with all this gay crap.
Speaker 5: Do you remember that priest calendar in Rome?
Speaker 7: People don't realize that when you go to Rome, and
this is not People didn't believe me when I say.
Speaker 5: This priest pin up calendar.
Speaker 7: There's uh, it's the gayest thing ever, dude's and it's reel.
When you go to Rome and you walk around, anywhere
you walk around, there's a little vendors selling you know,
knick knacks and junk everywhere, right, all of the vendors
sell Hot Priest calendars. I kid you not. It's and
it's not for the women. It's super gay, dude. And
it's real. And I think like, if you look it up,
you'll only see it. You'll only see it when you
look up, like people selling them on eBay and Etsy
and whatnot. Let's see what And they do it every
year too, because it's popping up like different genera different years. Yeah,
that's it right here.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 7: Oh look the Guardian even did it. Look they wrote
about it. Now you might think, well, but this is
for the ladies. It's not for the ladies, dude. It's
super gay man. I'm telling you. I was surprised when
we saw this. We're walking around Rome and I'm like,
why are they selling Hot prie It's called like the
Hot Priest Calendar. I'm like, why are they selling us?
What is this? Yeah? Like that's what looks like Yeah
I think.
Speaker 5: That's even the one. No, that's twenty ninety, but it
looked exactly like that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is every year this and like we're walking
around like what is this? Why are they selling this,
This is so bizarre and as gay as hell. Dude.
Speaker 5: Well, speaking of the Vatican, we were talking about.
Speaker 7: Anti Christ, a bunch of damn butt buddies, Dude, butt buddies,
butt buddies, but buddies, but buddies in Rome. Justin Henley
Jay is sleeping on the Ortho thugs. I don't mean
to I watched, Actually, I watched Jim Bob and that dude.
I'm sort of mean to be rude. I forget the
guy's name, but the guys, those Jim Bob and his
co host. I watched some of that the other day.
Why are you spamming? Please stop spamming the chip but
buddies and medew skeptic five dollars? Does the alg Xander
tradition address how Christ makes up for shortcomings to the
church militant when it comes to preaching the Gospel to all.
That's kind of what I'm getting at. Yeah, so I
know Saint Cerarl Alexander discusses that possibility, and I know
John Damascus discusses it later on, and there's probably more,
but I'm just not aware of it. Wyats the Alexander tradition.
I'm not sure, except that they always tended to focus
on the cosmic scope of the incarnation and redemption, more
so than like the Antiochene tradition focused on christ humanity. So,
LW five dollars, do you have a ballpark on when
you plan to pull the grid and go off grid?
Pull the plug and go off grid before all of
the cbdc's UBI transhumanism is normalized and we were plugged
into another nested simulation. Well, I'm pretty positive that that
won't all necessarily come about. They might try this in
certain areas, they might push in certain regions, but I
don't know that we are necessarily in the end of
the world or the end times. We don't know. So no,
I'm not really planning to leave and go off grid.
In fact, what we're gonna do is, as Bitcoin continues
to go to the moon, I will expand into doing
the things that I like to do. I will do
more of the comedy stuff. I will do music. I
will be rebranding as DJ dong Butter.
Speaker 5: We're gonna have a full on variety show where we're yeah,
we'll just have fun and do what we want to do.
Speaker 7: Con I mean, I told you guys on Twitter what
I was going to do and y'all don't see it
to believe me. Let's let's take a look at this.
And at a certain point, I'm almost sick of all of
these weirdos even being on my timeline. It's like, get
these get all these creep faces off of the damn timeline.
Well where is that at? There we go. We're here.
Now that I am retiring from debating, I will prep
you all for my coming rebrand, the hottest nineties raver
DJ dong Butter. That's how we get this camera and
this stream to run as smooth as butter because I'm
DJ dong Butter. Not really, that's not really gonna be
my name. Stop freaking out, don't forage out, DJJ. That's
goody cyber, not five dollars. What are you about jd
Vance and his ties to Teal and Pall and Teer.
I mean it's pretty well known now, I mean I'm
not sure, like, I mean, what's the Vice president doesn't
really do a whole lot, So I'm not super worried
about it. But as far as I can tell, I
hear that that is there. Did you come across the
Teal Vance connection?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Did Courtney talk about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. OK, so he's the one that pretty much supported
jd Vance his whole career because they had this plan,
the currency plan from PayPal the whole time. So Elon
and Teal have been wanting to get their hands on
making the one world currency.
Speaker 7: Well, I want to remind you guys that the solution
to the one world currency is bitcoin. So if you
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Speaker 7: Mm hmm. I'm trying to remember how I did this.
I want to show off something. H Well, I used
to have the ads ready to go, but I don't know.
Now the ads don't seem to go like I thought. Well,
I knew there would have to be one. There had
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Speaker 13: I want to show off something that we're all proud of.
I've got a browser here. This is Jay Dyers, much vaunted,
much sought after philosophy one oh one. Now he just
got this page up. We are just testing it out.
You guys are some of the first people in the
world to see it. I want to say, for my part,
it's not philosophy you want to one. I think this
is as mistitling. I really think is as like philosophy unleashed.
Because a philosophy want on one course, they give you
kind of some useless information that you can't make sense of.
Jay actually lays out over twelve weeks, dozens and dozens
of hours put into just the presentation of this, let
alone the hundreds and thousands of hours of research that
it takes to have a coherent evolution and history of
the origins of philosophy, the uses of philosophy, the different
ways to look at it over time, and how that
has been brought about to what we have today, which
is almost an absence of philosophy on the objective logic
and reason side in an overabundance of woke philosophy that
is irrational and is made up day by day as
people are like I think we should bring racism back,
and then here's a justification, and then it gets wokeified
and spread out, and then all of a sudden you
have a bunch of communist socialist ideas where you become
the property in action. You need to be able to
stand on your own ground. It helps to have a
foundation in philosophy because it's a method define truth when
you get down to it. Philosophy is there because you
love truth enough to go and learn how to find it,
because it's valuable. So if you're interested in things like that.
There is the landing page. We'll link it up into notes.
It is a longer once, so we'll get a shorter
URL for this. I'm sure Jay has a link on
his page. I just wanted to show it off. Now
you know it exists, you can go look for it
and see why this is not your father's philosophy.
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Speaker 5: Well, they're noticing that. I mean, even mainstream normies are
noticing how many correlations this has with like prophecy and
currency and anti Christ and stuff like that. So even
the New York Times I think it was they've just
had a big interview with Peter Teal where they were
discussing all of this because they were like, oh, this
sounds very anti Christ. And so the interview was talking
about how well, would you rather have the BT system
or would you rather have armageddon? Because that's what we're
heading into. So this is the false dialectic that they're
giving people. It's like, would you rather have mutual assured
destruction in nuclear war or would you have rather be
like surveilled and watched all the time. So these are
your two options. And I took some screenshots of the
written interview and then we can play some clips if
you want. But they start out talking about that, how
Peter Teel and the technocrasts think that we are in
a stall right now that we have not made as
many advancements. It's from let's say the nineteen seventies until
now that they had made in like eighteen seventy until
nineteen fifty or something like that. So he's like, you
think that we are getting so much more advanced, but
he's like, actually, we are in some kind of like.
Speaker 7: Oh, I've heard this. Someone else talks about this. I
think Chris Langen talked about the same thing the High
psych you guy, because we were going to try to
get him on Sam Hud and I think he was
talking about that, you think tech has done this amazing advancement,
Actually hasn't.
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future theory, like from the wild West, back to the
future to the modern time.
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y'all look look at this chick looked like a freaking
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This party goes well, he says, I can't even remember
the lyrics here, it.
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I mean she's pretty to me. But he's at therapy.
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they didn't even see it. Shoot, let me let me
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he's just hitting on girls. He's like simping and being like, oh,
buy you whatever. You won't please hang out with me.
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his mind a bit. It was crazy how in denial
he was. How did he come across when y'all were together, Well,
when we went out to dinner, we didn't talk about theology.
We just talked about life and things in general. And
it was just a nice, normal dinner conversation with me
and him and Jamie in a restaurant in San Diego.
And then the next day we I didn't know what
to expect because his show had no idea what he
wanted to bring up. We didn't really talk about a
whole lot of what we were going to do, and
then it ended up in that. Really we only got
into a debate in that last hour and a half
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Speaker 5: Oh that's commercial.
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That's that's iron Irony looked that up, comedy man, that's
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Speaker 5: Speaking of memberships.
Speaker 7: Hold on s Duster ten dollars. Thank you, Jay. I
converted after we spoke a year ago. I am newly
illumined since two twenty three. I have an Orthodox friend
who is willfully ignorant on certain geopolitical questions. Is this
sinful or a passion's protection? Passions protection? Whether there's stupids
so properly called passions? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I
mean he could have. There could be multiple reasons why
a person doesn't care to get into these more geopolitical
minded questions. So I couldn't say what your friend's reasonings are,
but I'm glad to hear that you're in the church.
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Speaker 5: Let's see, people have been giving me donuts and I
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read your anime super Chat, so he must have said
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c K twenty bucks. By the way, c K made
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as a Catechuman, but also want to engage with the
other stuff. Uh, well, the Bible talks are pretty good
if you're just wanting to start out with stuff.
Speaker 5: Father Cosmos of Austria.
Speaker 7: No, he's some about on my website. Oh he said
a bottom membership. Oh okay, and he's saying where in
there do you? I mean, you know, there's basically just
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Speaker 5: The Stuff is never enough.
Speaker 7: The Stuff is an esoterically with three.
Speaker 5: That's a classic. We did that one like before we
even started dating.
Speaker 7: Yes, we did. It's actually a lot more going on
in that movie than you would think.
Speaker 5: Well, the Stuff is a metaphor for all the genetically
modified food.
Speaker 7: So does old old podcasts don't even come up anymore.
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marshmall ago. Remember all the product placement in the stuff.
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that we did that was ten years ago in the Stuff.
Speaker 5: Yes, so they were deliberately placing big corporate products in.
They're like Pepsi and Nestle and stuff like that, saying
this these corporate slop. Is the stuff.
Speaker 7: Might be in here because we've done it twice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we do it two times. Actually one of them
was probably just audios.
Speaker 7: It is. It is just not coming up so old.
Speaker 1: M h.
Speaker 7: So here is one version of us covering the stuff.
But maybe I had to put your name in there.
It's hard to type at an angle? Was it when
we did society to man these old ones that still
don't even want to show up anymore? Aha? No, that's
another Are you sure that's the one I just pulled up?
I can find it this way. All right, what's the
next point. We're gonna let's get into the Peter Tiel thing, because.
Speaker 5: So everyone's talking about this interview that he just did,
and he even brings up Orthodox Christianity, and so I
screenshoted a bunch of nuggets and early on. So that's
what we're talking about. They think that we have stagnation.
Right now, we're stagnating and we need to take more risks.
We need to jump ahead in advancement. He says. Culturally,
what I imagine it looks like is early modernity, where
people thought we would cure diseases. They thought we would
have radical life extension. Immortality was part of the project
of early modernity. It was Francis Bacon. So he's already
talking about like Enlightenment people new Atlantis, Neoplatonism. He says,
maybe it was anti Christian, maybe it was downstream of Christianity.
It was competitive. If Christianity promised you a physical resurrection,
science was not going to succeed unless it promised you
the exact same thing. So then he starts talking about
in the early days they were into crowdgenics. Like he
goes in nineteen ninety nine, we were running PayPal. He
went to a freezing party where it was like a
Tubberer party, but they were selling free ice.
Speaker 7: Baby, Yes, it all comes back.
Speaker 5: So you could get the ice Vanilla ice.
Speaker 7: Package, the VIP Posse package.
Speaker 5: Yes, so you could get either your head or your
whole body, depending on how much money had. But he
was like, it was disturbing when the dot matrix printer
didn't quite work and so the freezing policies couldn't be
printed out. So it was even like a foreshadowing that,
like technology and machinery is not always something that you
can't count on.
Speaker 7: Is it too late to join the VIP Posse? Doesn't
because we know a person who uh is at a
place where Vanilla brings his cars.
Speaker 5: Remember, well, maybe you can get.
Speaker 7: Remember a certain Gabe.
Speaker 14: Yeah, the iceman brings his cars in, So maybe it's
not too late to join the VIP posse, we throw
a little cringe, Core tracks his way.
Speaker 7: Next thing, you know, it's blowing up.
Speaker 5: Well, let's give Vanilla Eyes to come perform with Riffrap
and you.
Speaker 7: We'll try. We'll try.
Speaker 5: So then they start talking about boomers, your favorite.
Speaker 7: This is the only thing that makes me. Now I'm
starting to like Peter Tilly. He makes boomer jokes.
Speaker 5: He says, in retrospect, there was still a fringe boomer
view where they still believed they could live forever, and
that was the last generation. So I'm always anti boomer,
but maybe there's something we've lost, even in this friend
of boomor narcissism, where there were at least a few
boomers who still believe science would hear all their diseases.
No one who's a millennial believes that anymore. And then
you always think of the right arguments to make. Later,
he says, it was talking about having dinner with Elon.
Oh Elon's sad because he doesn't want to go to
Mars anymore. Twenty twenty four was the year where Elon
stopped believing in it. It was supposed to be a
political project.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Mars is thinking day anyway, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And in twenty twenty four, Elon came to believe that
if you went to Mars, the social US government, the
woke AI would follow you there. It was a meeting
with Elon and the CEO of Deep Mind that we
brokeered and he says, the interviewer says, this is an
AI company. Yeah, And that's the rough conversation that Demis
was telling Elon that AI will follow you no matter
where you go. And then they just start talking about
AI was important, Mars was important to Elon, and then
he goes, what does Mars mean.
Speaker 7: Well, Mars's moms.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it does. We did that movie on my channel.
Teal says, is it just a scientific project or is
it like Hindline The Moon as a libertarian Paradise or
something like this? So here they're bringing up the old
sci fi's right, Yeah, and that's where GROC comes from.
Is Hindline Stranger and Strange Land?
Speaker 7: Do you want to hear this?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 15: What does that mean to you? What is the Antichrist?
Speaker 2: How much time do we have?
Speaker 15: We've got as long as much time as you have
to talk about the Antichrist?
Speaker 16: All right, Well, I have a I could talk about
it where But no, I think, uh, I think there's
always a question, you know, how how do we articulate,
you know, some of these existential risks, some of the
challenges we have, and they're all framed to sort of
runaway dystopian science text. There's a risk of nuclear war.
There's a risk of environmental disaster, maybe something specifical like
climate changel there are lots of other ones we've come
up with. There's a risk of you know, I know,
bio weapons. You have all the different sci fi scenarios.
Obviously there are certain types of risks with AI. But
I always think that if we're gonna have this frame
of talking about existential risks, perhaps we should also talk
about the risk of another type of a bad singularity,
which I would describe as the one world totalitarian state,
because I would say the political solution, the default political
solution people have for all these existential risks is one
world governance and the Christian framing, which in some ways
the same question is Antichrist or armageddon. You have the
one world state of the Antichrist, or we're sleepwalking towards armageddon,
one world or none Antichrist or armageddon? On one level,
are the same question. The way the Antichrist would take
over the world is you talk about armageddon NonStop, you
talk about existential risk NonStop, and.
Speaker 2: This is what you need to regulate.
Speaker 16: It's the opposite of the picture of Baconian science from
the seventeenth eighteenth century, where you know, the Antichrist is
like some evil tech genius, evil scientists who invents this
machine to take over the world. People are way too
scared for that. In our world, the thing that has
political resonance is the opposite. It is it is the
thing that has political resonances. We need to stop science.
We need to just say stop to this. And this
is where yeah, I don't know. In the seventeenth century,
I can imagine a doctor Strangelove Edward Teller type person taking.
Speaker 1: Over the world.
Speaker 16: In our world, it's far more likely to be Greta Thunberg.
Speaker 15: This is my my very specific question for you, right,
is that you are you're you're a you're an investor
in AI, You're you know, you're deeply invested in pallenteer
in military technology and technologies of surveillance and technologies.
Speaker 7: Well, I don't think Greta is Antichrist. I don't think
she's going to take over the world. I mean, first
of all, Greta is a woman, a girl woman. Now,
I mean that's silly, But I don't Yeah, somebody said,
I don't know. I don't know anything about Peter Till
other than what I read in his zero to one book.
But somebody said that he has read Renee Gerrard, and
so his idea of Christian theology is influenced by that
book over there, Sacred. In what's it called, what's the
Red text, they're saying the something and the sacred violence
in the Sacred by Gerard. So I've not read Rene
Gerard yet, so I can't say. But it sounds like
the ideas of just a sort of like generic like
generic terms like anti Christ and apocalypse and beat system.
But it's not really situated in the Biblical text. It's
just kind of like situated in pop culture ideas or
like multi religious studies ideas of what Antichrist is, or
maybe even perennialist ideas like Upton's book on Antichrist and Counterinitiation.
So it's not again when he's taught when he says
this stuff, I don't know exactly what he means, because
it's not really the biblical framework.
Speaker 15: Or fair and so on. Right, And it just seems
to me that when you tell me a story about
the Antichrist coming to power and using the fear of
technological change to sort of impose order on the world,
I feel like that Antichrist would be maybe be using
the tools that you think you were that you were building, right, Like,
wouldn't the Antichrist be like, great, you know, we're not
going to have any more technological progress. But I really
like what Palanteer has done so far, right, Isn't that
Isn't that a concern? Wouldn't that be the you know,
the irony of history would be that the man publicly
worrying about the Antichrist accidentally hastens his or her arrival.
Speaker 16: Uh, They're all Look, they are all these different scenario.
I obviously don't think that that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 15: I Uh, I mean to be clear, I don't think
that's I don't think that's what you're doing either. I'm
just interested in how you get to will a world
willing to submit to permanent authoritarian rule.
Speaker 2: Will But but.
Speaker 16: Again, uh, there there are these different gradations of this
we can describe. But is this so preposterous that the
entire world has submitted for fifty years to peace and safetysm.
This is a first Thessalonians five three. The slogan of
the Antichrist is peace and safety, and and we've submitted
to You know, the FDA regulates not just drugs in
the US, but de facto in the whole world because
the rest of the world. The first the FDA, the
Nuclear Regulatory Commission, effectively regulates nuclear power plants all over
the world. People, you can't, you know, you can't design
a modul and nuclear reactor and just build it in Argentina.
They won't trust the Argentinian regulators. They're going to defer
to the US.
Speaker 2: And so it is at least it's at least a question.
Speaker 7: So he seems to be framing it like a libertarian
would that Antichrist will be this sort of universal collective
government control and so individual minded, you know, and cat
libertarian people that are not collectivists therefore wouldn't be building
or participating in a b system. So, but I don't
think that it doesn't follow from that that just because
you're sort of libertarian or anti collectivists that you wouldn't
be or couldn't be participating in the b system. I mean,
they don't even seem to recognize that Antichrist is not
a woman. But and then this is the next section.
Speaker 15: You would prefer the human race to endure?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 15: Uh, you're hesit yet? Well, I yes, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I I would, I would.
Speaker 15: This is a long hemitation, long hesitation.
Speaker 2: There's so many questions in place.
Speaker 15: Wouldn't the human race survive?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yes, okay, but but uh.
Speaker 16: I I also would I I I also would like
us to to radically solve these problems.
Speaker 2: And uh.
Speaker 16: And so you know it's always I don't know, you know, yeah,
transhumanism is this, you know, the ideal was this radical
transformation where your human natural body gets.
Speaker 7: I will say I wasn't expecting him to start quoting
First Essalonians. That surprised me because I thought he was
not situating any of this in terms of the text.
I don't. I still don't think he is, like in
terms of the book revelation. But it was odd that
he saw to Bsalonias.
Speaker 16: Formed into an immortal body. And there's a critique of
let's say the trans people in a sexual context, or
a transvestite is someone who changes their clothes and cross dresses,
and a transsexual is someone where you change your penis
into a vagina. And we can then debate how well
those surgeries work.
Speaker 2: But we want more.
Speaker 16: Transformation than that. It's the critique is not that it's
weird and unnatural. It's man, it's so pathetically little, and okay,
we want more than cross dressing or changing your sex organs.
We want you to be able to change your heart
and change your mind and change your whole your whole body.
And then Orthodox Christianity, by the way, the critique Orthodox
Christianity has of this is these things don't go far enough,
Like that transhumanism is just changing your body, but you
also need to transform your soul and you need to
transform your your whole self and.
Speaker 15: So right, but the other way wait wait, sorry, I
generally agree with your What I think is your belief
that religion should be a friend to science and ideas
of scientific progress. I think any idea of divine providence
has to encompass the fact that we have progressed and
achieved and done things that would have been unimaginable to
our ancestors, but it still also seems like, yeah, the
promise of Christianity in the end is you get you
get the perfected body and the perfected soul through God's grace,
and the person who tries to do it on their
own with a bunch of machines is likely to end
up as a dystopian character.
Speaker 2: Well, uh, it's let's let's articulately this.
Speaker 15: And you can have a heretical form of Christianity. Right
that says something else.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 16: I think the word need sure does not occur once
in the Old Testament. And so you know, if if
you you know, and there is you know, there is
a word in which a sense in which the way
I understand you know, the you know, the Judeo Christian
inspiration is it is it is it is. It is
about transcending nature, It is about overcoming things, and you know, and.
Speaker 7: So Christianity is an allegory for transhumanism. It's a way
to speak through like mythological language about the hope and
the promise of technology giving immortality and thus transcending nature.
I mean, there would be an equivalent Hebrew term for nature.
So I'm not sure what he means by that this.
Speaker 16: Thing you can say to nature is that people are fallen,
and that that's the natural thing in a Christian sense
is that you're messed up.
Speaker 2: And that's true.
Speaker 7: See, that's the Calvinist view. Nature is what God created.
It's the things that are what they are due to
being created and being given natures by God. So the
divine nature is uncreated, and then everything else has a
created nature and is according to Genesis good, It is
good by nature. So I just, yeah, I think that
what we got here is just an attempt to read
Christianity as some sort of myth of the gods anticipating
the ability of technology to give us the secrets of
you know, immortality through mastering nature.
Speaker 5: The interviewer in that in the text, he says, he
goes on to say, working to build the hypothetical machine God.
Don't think that they're cooperating with Yahweh Jehovah, the Lord
of host. Teal says, sure, sure, And the guy says
they think that they're building in more time on their
own right, And Teal says, we're jumping around a lot
of things. So again the critique I was saying is
they're not ambitious enough. From a Christian point of view,
these people are not ambitious enough. Then we get into
the question, well are they but they're not morally and
spiritually ambitious enough? And then are they still physically ambitious enough?
So I wonder why he brought up Orthodox Christianity specifically.
Speaker 7: Well, some people call just any Christianity that is adhering
to its principles little o orthodox. Oh, I mean he
might have meant actually Eastern Orthodox Christianity. I don't know
what he meant, but that's a good question. I'm not
sure in what sense. But now I've heard of this
ross do thought guy, but I don't know who he is.
Anybody know who he is?
Speaker 5: Oh, here's something interesting. He goes on to say, you're ready, Yeah, yeah,
he said. I had a conversation with Elon a few
weeks ago. He said, we're going to have a billion
humanoid robots in the US in ten years, and I said, well,
if that's true, you don't need to worry about the
budget deficits because we're going to have so much growth.
All the growth will take care of this. Then they
just started talking about how these things aren't really thought through,
like what.
Speaker 1: Are we going to do.
Speaker 16: But you know, there's some ways that you know, with
God's help, you are supposed to transcend that and overcome that.
Speaker 7: So this guy is just some sort of gnormy Roman
Catholic writer for the New York Times, I guess, or Harvard.
So he's the normy conservative supposedly, I guess, to interview
and to give pushback against Peter Tail. So let's get
then too. The Landy a book. The interviewer is not orthodox.
He's a Catholic, it says, So this.
Speaker 5: Is all stuff that this guy saw coming ten years
ago almost, and why everybody is so balkanized on different
sides right now because of social media and just internet
use in general. Is the point of all of the
social media is to create AI and that is the
spoiler alert at the end of the book. So he
goes through ten arguments about how social media and internet
culture is just undermining society, right yeah, and.
Speaker 7: This is absolutely true. This is key. That's why I
shared that video of that girl that worked at TikTok
the other day and I said, it's a key, crucial
video and it's going to tie into what Jamie and
I talked about because Jaron Lannie says that when he
was there helping and working with this stuff, like the
whole point of all of it was to make it
addictive to feed the algorithms for the AI to control you.
Speaker 5: So he was an interdisciplinary scientist at Microsoft, so that's
how he would know. So he's on the inside, and
he says that we are under constant surveillance. And this
is even before like everyone had smartphones prodded by algorithms
that make that make people make money off of your behavior.
Speaker 7: So manipula there he is. There isn't some masta instead
of Wizard of All assisting nine. And this was a
very popular interview at the time twenty eighteen. It went
pretty big. He went on all the channels. This one
got like four million views. But it's good to go
back and watch this because this was pre AI rollout
and he's basically explaining everything like in terms of where
we are right now. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: So number one, his first argument of his ten arguments
of why you should spend as little time as possible
if you can help it on social media is that
you are losing your free will. And he's talking about
you know, you're in a cage that goes everywhere with you,
meaning your devices that you carry. Yeah right, and you
know it's it's a cage.
Speaker 7: For your mind, man, yeah, me through your mind.
Speaker 5: So through continue adjusted stimuli, the advertisers become behavioral modification experts.
And he talks about the early studies of behaviorism. You know,
you've got be a skinner, You've got Pavlov and his
salivating dogs.
Speaker 7: Well, and it's the creating the feedback loop, like the
Minds of Men documentary.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's called operant conditioning.
Speaker 7: And I've talked about that a lot. But even when
I when I went on with Catherine Austin Fitz ten
years ago, we talked about operant conditioning. That's also part
of enchaultra don't listen to them, Okay, So.
Speaker 5: This plays into the early mid control experiments. And then
before at least you knew you were submitting to experimentation,
he says, when they would do uh science experiments, you
would like sign a thing. At least you knew like
they were manipulating you in some way, like they had
your consent basically. Yeah, But nowadays you are being experimented
on and with without your consent by going to the
user's terms and conditions.
Speaker 7: And submitting to that tos.
Speaker 5: You're submitting to be part of a social science experiment, right.
Speaker 7: And that's what people are overlooking. They're thinking about am
I going to be censored or not? Well, you're committing
your information to feeding a giant algorithmic machine. Again, it's
not that big of a deal and individually, but collectively
it's feeding it. And this is what they want to
create for society, is this technocracy where we're basically just
run by computers.
Speaker 5: Right. And so you've seen that video where the former
CEOs talk about the dopemine driven users and how it's
so bad for your brain and they won't let their
children use it. Yeah, right, So he talks about how
the feedback loops destroy how society works. They and they
regret creating it. They don't use it, they don't let
their families use it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: He talks about how the old motto of Facebook was
move fast and break things. So this is kind of
the mindset that you see when the technocrats talk about
like we're in a stagnation. They want to keep on going.
It doesn't matter if they break things. That was the
whole ethos of Doge too, Like just get there and
root around. It doesn't matter if we like crash things,
because we're going to build back better. Right in their minds,
So and then the old Google models don't be evil.
Speaker 7: I don't agree about that. Without about DOGE. I think
that what they were doing was correct, but it was
also potentially a step towards technocracy. But I don't think
that shutting down USAID and trying to gut all of
these deceptive cutout programs was it self bad.
Speaker 5: Well, it's just the ethos behind what they do.
Speaker 7: Like they just part of what they were trying to
sell is that, look, technocracy will fix these problems that
blow corrupt government can't fix.
Speaker 5: Yeah, then he starts talking about how so all of
these things are so addictive, and then the different habits
of addicts and what they do, so they tend to
be more liars, they tend to be more isolated, they
don't have they gradually lose touch with the real world.
And so that's where you get people saying that we're
elves and we're monsters, and we're Lord of the Rings,
and we're D and D and I want to switch
my body out with a anime cartoon or whatever.
Speaker 7: I'm more of a witch King of Angmar myself. But
you can be.
Speaker 5: Magic elf.
Speaker 7: No, you're like, who's that elf they made up for
the Hobbit the girl from Lost?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah from Lost.
Speaker 7: You're more of an elf like her.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'll take it.
Speaker 7: I'm more of a witch king of Angmar.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, you're losing touch with reality. You're starting to
think that elves are real. And if you grow up
with enough of this in your mind, that's how you
become Yeah, thinking that you live in a simulation, saying
that yes, and that reality is a simulation and we
can just do mess around and do whatever you want,
Like Grind's talked about, like I can be a villain
because none of this is real. It doesn't really matter.
It's just a simulation, right, So he talks about it's
not always about pleasure on social media, but it's also
about punishment and negative reinforcement, which is rage bait.
Speaker 7: So this is all prep for social credit, social credit
score and control.
Speaker 5: And so the social media isn't it's two things at once.
It's the pleasure and the pain that you get from
the dopamine spike, and then the rage bait brings out
your and he calls the whole thing the bummer machine.
So number two is quitting social media is the best
way to rise this insanity which we were just talking about.
And the bummer machine is basically like you know, Facebook, Google.
Speaker 7: All of those, well, the infinity scroll. So here's what
I've decided the way that I combat this. And it's
still difficult because I get tons of annoying DMS that
I feel like I need to answer, but I never
go to the for you because remember the for you
is there on all the platforms now to trigger you,
because they realized that when they get you engaged and
riled up, that you spend way more time on the
platform than if you're looking at what the people that
you actually followed are putting up. And Instagram was the
most insidious because they hid the people that you're following,
and they make you, when you open up Instagram, see
the for you, and so you have to literally go
in there and find and click to change it to
follow who you're actually following. Otherwise it's just automatically the
for you on purpose to trigger you.
Speaker 5: It's for you to get mad at exactly.
Speaker 7: That's what Landier is talking about. And then what's the
let's let's go ahead and get to the end of
this with the revelation of it being a cult.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, So the bummer stands for behaviors of users
modified and made into an empire for rent. So it's like,
your mind is uh the product. So whether they say
if something is free, then you're the product.
Speaker 7: The algorithm is studying you and then putting the algorithm
into you so that you become a robot.
Speaker 5: Exactly.
Speaker 7: That's it. That's the whole thing.
Speaker 5: Well, not only that, like on the way to you
becoming a robot, you become an asshole in the ws.
Speaker 7: The demoralizing to make you become part of the border.
Speaker 5: Because he already called it that the assholes get the
most attention. He calls it attention acquisition, leading to asshole supremacy.
Speaker 7: Say, that's this is the what's the problem. I'm the
meanest man on the interview. This is my world, baby,
I'm the oligarch that's going to be running shit because
I'm just so mean.
Speaker 5: So being an assholes incentivized attention equals currency. And if
you can make the most people mad, now meant it's
the meanocracy. So he talks about cramming content, directing behavior,
earning money for letting the worst assholes in society secretly
screw with everyone else.
Speaker 7: I don't think he's find that's us, that's me. This
is the meanocracy, there's all.
Speaker 5: Number three says social media makes you into an asshole,
so the addicts seek out suffering, And yeah, I was
agreeing with that, Like social media is like self harm
at this point, just going on there and people will
come become preternaturally quick to take offense, hoping to get
into a fight, much like an alcoholic wal go looking
for it.
Speaker 7: And he was saying this in twenty seventeen. Sixteen eighteen
is when this book cames, okay, but he was saying
that before that. Yeah, Ause, he's writing the boat before that.
And this was way back before they had rolled out AI,
before Twitter became a giant bloodsboard engine.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: He says that people become aggressive on their their inner
trol comes out. It's impossible to be authentic because you
can either you have to be like fake nice if
you don't want anyone to get mad at you, or
people are just gonna get mad for a reason. He
says there is a danger of falling into pack or
herd mentality when you're online, because others become archetypes. So
it's always like in us versus them, my team, your team.
You can't really like sit down and have a meaningful
discourse or it's really hard to because you have reduced
somebody to like your mascot of the t that you
think they're on.
Speaker 7: Mean Girl Summer, Yeah, Mean girl Summer. We who are you?
Are you Rachel McAdams, no.
Speaker 8: Of the girls?
Speaker 7: Or are you No?
Speaker 5: I'd probably be that.
Speaker 7: Weird Stacy dash No, who's the black girl in.
Speaker 5: In clus clueless? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Uh, it's says daniel Lewis ten dollars day. I know
that it took you many years to convert toward the oxy.
What were some of the topics or practices that took
time to accept and how did you come to accept them?
A lot of it and that was another not any practices.
Just getting rid of all the tonism in Augustinian theology
was a big part of it. And just problems with
people at the local church. What was the main issues.
Speaker 5: Well, so, yeah, reducing people to archetypes that you can
then fight with because you believe that they are opposing you,
and I mean I knew, well they do, but but
not everybody. Like there's more nuance in gray area that
social media cannot.
Speaker 7: So just making everybody fight with everybody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it also makes what you say meaningless because it
removes contact, nuance, audience, and accountability.
Speaker 7: Well, it also is an infinity scroll and it goes
away and nobody remembers what you said two days ago,
So it's all kind of like worthless.
Speaker 5: Well, not only is that.
Speaker 7: Cheapening of discourse. That's why print is better.
Speaker 5: AI is looking so real You're not going to know
what's real in the future.
Speaker 7: Like, yeah, that's already where we're at, whether crisis of
what's real.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So he even said this back then, bummers making
everyone fake. I mean even all these accounts that are
huge turned out to be fake, a lot of the red.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you were saying that trad wife accounts were getting it.
Speaker 5: So what else? Yeah, it's dangerous to wake up and
you know, basically choose violence, like to try and think
of what's the worst thing that you can say to
get the most people mad at you. He talks about
how social media is just string empathy. Things become what
he calls filter bubbles or echo chambers. Most people only
have time to look at what their algorithm feeds them.
So it's like, it's not like we have a newspaper
where everybody can open it up and read the same
thing and then we can make our decisions and judgments
based on that.
Speaker 7: That's how I'm saying. But there's a superiority to print
word only because all the social media has developed the
infinite scroll feed right, So it's not fixed. Books are fixed.
That's why you learn and you retain it and you
make notes, and it's fixed. It stays there, and the
infinity scroll it goes away.
Speaker 5: So they only have time to look at the algorithm
is algorithm is feeding them. People's worldview is distorted and
their view of others is diminished. Your version of the
world is invisible to people who misunderstand you, and vice versa.
So this goes into uh, I told you I'm the
arty one.
Speaker 7: The friend who's the arty one? Amanda, the one that
was in these are the mean girls, Rachel McAdams, whoever
she is in Amanda seaffret.
Speaker 5: She was the girl from the waiting comedy that we
watch what the caterers caterers?
Speaker 7: Yea party down?
Speaker 5: Yes, So the girl and Party Down is also in
Mean Girls. But she's not in any of these pictures.
Speaker 7: Oh the Jewish girl.
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, that's me.
Speaker 7: Then you're not Jewish girl.
Speaker 5: No, but I don't fit in with any of these people.
Speaker 7: I forgot this.
Speaker 5: I don't care to.
Speaker 7: I've gout. She was in it. Yeah, Lizzie, Lizzie something,
she's Lizzie kaplan If she's funny in Party down't.
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 7: Social media distriy lesbian?
Speaker 5: She's not lisbian?
Speaker 7: Yeah she was, wasn't She thought.
Speaker 5: She was just artistic?
Speaker 7: I think les go ahead.
Speaker 5: Have you ever heard a theory of mind?
Speaker 7: I mean, in philosophy, there's theory of mind.
Speaker 5: Sure, well, I mean in this context, it is being
able to empathize or you know, walk a mile in
someone else's shoes hypothetically, or try and understand where they're
coming from or why they would say the things that
they're saying. So he's saying social media robs you of
being able to do that. Number seven, social media is
making you want to happy because the negative emotions are
utilized more readily. Of course, the system is going to
find a way to make you feel bad, and bummer
makes you feel judged in an arbitrary competition to no
higher purpose.
Speaker 7: Right, she was the lesbian?
Speaker 5: Oh she is Leslian I didn't.
Speaker 7: Jamie didn't mean that she loves me.
Speaker 5: I just meant the one that doesn't want to fit in.
Speaker 7: I know, you're the outcast. You're you're the female version
of Lloyd Dobbler, Okay, because Lloyd Dobbler doesn't fit in.
Speaker 5: Which everyone was homeschooled and doesn't give a crap about
being popular.
Speaker 7: So you're saying you're a Jewish cabalistic sorceress exactly. Okay,
So go ahead with the Lanier's conclusions here. Would you
recommend this book?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and it's a really short read. And if
you want to go through the whole thing with me
and Ruckus, I know we're kind of rush right now,
but we did it on my channel pull up. Okay.
So yeah, just to sum up summer seven, eight, nine,
and ten, is that the constant comparisons to people are
causing you anxiety. And this is even before like Instagram
and all that blew up and just growing up trying
to get the most likes and shares and thumbs and
hearts and retweets and all of this stuff is really
damaging to your development as a person, especially if you're
a young person.
Speaker 7: Well, and it's also destroying everyone's attention span so that
they can't actually read a book. That's what that girl
from TikTok was saying, was that she realized that not
only could you not read a book, she couldn't watch
a movie. Oh yeah, you didn't have the attention watch
a movie.
Speaker 5: I feel like I've accomplished something if I watch a
movie without looking at my phone. Yeah, I mean I
still read a lot, but the phone's right next to me,
and I'm almost like, don't look at it. So number eight.
Social media doesn't want you to have economic dignity. It
promotes the gig economy not the best route to financial security.
Not that there's anything wrong with having gigs or side
hustles or whatever, but it's not like financially stable way
to run your life on gigs.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: Tech hippies from the nineties, he said, they were almost religious,
focused on making everything free. We were talking about that
before rapid growth. But also makes people into part time
lab rats. Ad makes them free, but you are the
product the advertising morphed into mass behavior modification. He talks
about social media makes politics impossible, because he said it
used to be thought that once the country went democratic,
it would stay that way. But we're seeing that that
is not true. Something is drawing young people away from democracy.
He talks about how social media can be a deadly
weapon and ship posts can lead to revolutions. So that's
where we get the whole member Arab Spring and the
Color Revolution. So that was all facilitated in.
Speaker 7: Part by social media.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see.
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Speaker 5: So the politicians that take on the bummer attitude of
being an asshole are also outpacing, outpacing well meaning people
because they get more attention, obviously. And then number ten
social media hates your soul. He says, it hinders your
ability to know the world and the truth. It cages
you in a new spiritual framework. It's usurps your free will.
So he has all of these instances where he is like,
it is replacing your faith, it's becoming a religion. Then
he talks about AI and the Silicon Valley people.
Speaker 7: This is the key point was that the conclusion of
the book is that in Silicon Valley, they've already, according
to him, come up with the idea that they will
essentially create a pseudo religion around this.
Speaker 5: Here's the crux of it. One of the reasons that
Bummer works the way it does is that engineers working
at Bumber companies often believe that their top priority, and
among top priorities, isn't serving present day humans, but building
the artificial intelligence that will inherit the earth. The constant
surveillance and testing of behavior modification in multitudes of humans
is supposedly gathering data that will evolve into the intelligence
of future AIS. One might wonder if AI engineers believe
that manipulating people will be AI's purpose. The big tech
company are publicly committed to extravagant AI race. This is
Project Stargate now that they often prioritize above all else.
It's completely normal to hear an exec from one of
the biggest companies in the world talk about the possibility
of a coming singularity when AIS will take over. This
is like at the very last pages of the book.
So he saved all of this bombshell for like the
last chapter in the last afterward talking about how Silicon
Valley worships AI and what I did. I just read
that all of the social media is to facilitate when
AI will inherit the earth.
Speaker 7: There is a NATO document that I've shared many times
about that trolling would be used and how it's used
even in psyops. So to theocracy enjoyer who's asking the
question the chat, how is ship posting psyops and how
could it spur a revolution? Let me see if I
can find that k troll armies troll.
Speaker 17: Sometimes sometimes this works better than actually, oh I found it.
Speaker 7: There we go, can't believe I found this? Okay, let
me re share this and then we'll see it over here.
You want to read that you can't see that the
role of emotions in the digital realm would allows the
digital industries and their customers to dominic distinguish individual's crowd,
and redefine personalization. At it talks about social media becoming
perfect for polarization and the more anger spreads, the more
users susceptable becoming trolls. And this is talking about the
effect that social media has on emotions. And this is
from the NATO Cognitive Warfare psyops document that I've lectured
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Speaker 5: It was just something I drew, uh, because I notice
everybody just getting into fights over crazy stuff on social
media all the time and getting upset at the wrong thing.
So I just kind of drew a chart about what
is the problem, and so at the top I put
you know, Satan, because everybody is like, oh, it's the Jews,
it's the Hamas, it's Maga, it's feminist whatever. That would
be in the green section. Everybody you hate and you
think is the problem, is really.
Speaker 7: Down here in the middle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so the real problem is Satan or Lucifer, right,
the evil one, and then the demons, principalities fallen, angels
or aliens. And then in the blue you have humans
who have knowingly aligned with the devil. These are the
demons possessed. These are the secret societies. You don't see
much of them. These are the bloodlines right behind the shadows.
These are your cabal and they control the people who
are visible to you to hate. This is your cults,
your false teachers, your con men, your gurus, your you know,
white men, the liberals, whatever you think is the problem.
And these people influence the orange, which is everybody else,
most of humanity living on autopilot or survival, your NPCs,
your non activists, your normies or your sims. Right, this
is like most people. Okay, this is like Uncle Bob.
And then at the bottom is you yourself. So in
you know, our worldview. The problem is you You don't
attack the middle of the pyramid, the green. You bypass
all of the it is and attack Satan. But the
only way you can do that is working on the
evil within you and being humble, and this is the
part we never stop doing, so we don't are trying
to attack the orange and the green levels.
Speaker 7: One of the ways key ways to do that in
our day is to either get off of social media
or completely severely limit yes, your exposure to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah and uh yeah, if you want the whole full
breakdown with me and Ruckus, that is over on my channel.
And I also got the members section set up on
my channel and there's about four or five videos up already.
So go take a look at Defense
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a member, and everybody, have a good night.