WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.240 --> 00:00:05.440 If you love the West Tigers as much as we do, 2 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:08.320 and that's in a awful light, you'll welcome to come 3 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:10.880 and join us in our discussions on the West Tigers 4 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:14.119 Podcast forum. Our forum is the number one forum for 5 00:00:14.199 --> 00:00:17.960 West Tigers fans to talk everything West Tigers. West Tigers 6 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:21.440 Podcast dot com dot au slash forum. We hope to 7 00:00:21.480 --> 00:00:38.840 see you there soon. It's the West Tigers Podcast. It's 8 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:42.679 another post lost edition of the West Tigers Podcast. We've 9 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:45.439 got lots and lots of experience when it comes to 10 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:48.039 doing these, but I think this is going to be 11 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:49.679 a good podcast. I think it's going to be a 12 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:52.679 bit of fun. Sixteen twelve, the final score against the 13 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:56.439 Raiders at Campbelltown on Friday night. Nick's here, Eddie's here, 14 00:00:56.479 --> 00:01:00.600 and Gary's here, and let's start off with one word 15 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:05.599 from there, the three West Tigers Podcast team members. I'm 16 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:07.040 going to start with you first. 17 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:07.480 Nick. 18 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:10.280 You're standing, We're sitting in front of the Wayne Pierce 19 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:13.000 Hill on the scoreboard in your background, which is very 20 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:17.280 clever on zoom, and Robbie's sitting there in that famous 21 00:01:17.319 --> 00:01:19.519 moment drinking the beer as well, so I love that backdrop. 22 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:21.319 That's very very clever. What's your one word? 23 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:22.120 Thanks? 24 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:24.159 Jole's very cold out here too, sitting out here, in. 25 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:27.840 My words, frustrated. 26 00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:31.200 I was just saying before we started recording that I 27 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:34.200 rewatched the game this afternoon just to freshen up a 28 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:37.840 bit for the pod tonight. But we've just come so 29 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:42.239 close to the last three four weeks, we keep falling short. 30 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:44.640 So the last three games we've lost by four points. 31 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:48.079 We had a lot of chances. Again against the Raiders 32 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:51.040 on Friday night, I actually thought we had the probably 33 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:54.280 run and play the first fifteen minutes or so at Cameltown. 34 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:57.200 I do think we had a few things go against us. 35 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:00.760 But yeah, I was just extremely frustrated for watching that game, 36 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:03.280 you know, especially there were no points scored the last 37 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:04.040 twenty three minutes. 38 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:05.359 It was just it was there for the taking. 39 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:06.200 We couldn't get done. 40 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:10.199 Frustrated. I think most of us can can certainly relate 41 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:13.919 to that. Hallo, Eddie, You're you vowed that you're going 42 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:15.919 to have the weekend off you. We weren't going to 43 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:18.719 see you. You burnt out, You've done too many podcasts, 44 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:20.639 and you're here. It's good to see. 45 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:23.479 Well, it's nice not to be hosting because you know, 46 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:25.520 when I'm host, I have to be very professional, so 47 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:28.560 that night, Joel, it might be a bit different. But 48 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:31.840 it's funny. My first word, I've got two words, and 49 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:33.800 my first word also starts with an F, but I'm 50 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:35.639 not going to use it, so I'll just use the 51 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:42.039 word torture is absolute torture, Like honestly, like it wouldn't 52 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:44.919 really just be typical West Tiger's Joel, if we were 53 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:47.240 to improve out a site and somehow still get the 54 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:50.199 wooden spoon, like we tried to set a world record 55 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.479 for the amount of games lost by six points, like, honestly, 56 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:56.520 at least the last three wooden spoons, Joel, it wasn't 57 00:02:56.560 --> 00:03:00.199 really torture. It was just we were just pathetic. Is 58 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:01.759 this year like his torture? 59 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:06.000 Yeah? I know what you're saying. There's a lot more 60 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:08.919 to talk about in regards to all of that, including 61 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:11.919 a really good post that I'll share. I probably might 62 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:15.800 share all of it, but it came from a person 63 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:17.599 on Facebook, and I just want to share some of 64 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:22.919 his comments. Gary, We've got frustration, We've got these words. 65 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:26.000 What is your word? I'm just going to go with 66 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:28.520 right edge, I think, with a couple of changes on 67 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:32.000 that right edge, we probably win that game on Friday night. 68 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:38.039 I think both Heath, Mason and Alex Afarth showed on 69 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:40.520 Friday night that they're not the standard we need on 70 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:43.439 that edge. So I'm hoping that's going to be something 71 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:47.759 thats rectified very quickly because I think if we get 72 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:50.400 that right edge right, we can be a lot more 73 00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:53.719 competitive down the back end of the season. So really 74 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:56.039 unhappy with the performance of a couple of guys that 75 00:03:56.080 --> 00:03:58.560 I think probably let the rest of the team down 76 00:03:58.560 --> 00:03:59.280 on Friday night. 77 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:03.439 Steve, he's currently in the Middle East. He's very brave 78 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:06.199 to be in the Middle East. His word was accountable 79 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:09.840 and accountable around Sayfath and Mason, saying they shouldn't be 80 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:14.520 picked again next week. My word is physicality. It's got 81 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:16.720 to be. If we don't win the collision, we can't 82 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:20.480 win football games. So in saying that, in the second half, 83 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:25.279 I thought, led by Latu Feintu defensively, we actually started 84 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:27.120 to win the collision a little bit and we looked 85 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:30.240 at a better team aside from what Latu brought to us 86 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:37.240 in his offense. I've also got I've also got bench 87 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:39.879 because I thought the bench was the use of the 88 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:44.319 bench was poor. But my word, and I've got to 89 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:47.199 give Snake from the West Tigers podcast for him a 90 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:49.279 little bit of credit for this, because he actually mentioned 91 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:53.240 this word or these two words in another post, but 92 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:56.079 I've stolen them for my one word, and that is 93 00:04:56.240 --> 00:05:00.399 killer instinct. And that is I think that this club 94 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:05.959 and maybe certain members of the football team don't have 95 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:08.800 a killer instinct. And I've got a couple of examples 96 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:11.759 of that. Do we'll go into that now or do 97 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:13.480 you want to continue on with one word, so we'll 98 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:16.560 do the one. We'll do killer instinct then, okay, so 99 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:22.560 just not ruthless enough. So I've got this example here. 100 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:26.879 We're thirty one minutes in now, I think probably we'd 101 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:29.079 all agree that after thirty one minutes the West Tigers 102 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:31.480 have been pretty much bashed up. We were down sixteen nil, 103 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:35.879 the Raiders were winning the forward battle. We were hanging 104 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:38.800 in there, right, So we finally get some ball down 105 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:42.360 on the Raiders line. Now that they've been bashing us up, 106 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:48.360 they've been you know, lots of little dirty things, head 107 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:51.560 butts and all sorts of things. They're that sort of team. 108 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:56.439 But Corey Hawsber tries to steal the ball from Terrell May. 109 00:05:56.639 --> 00:05:59.439 He gets penalized but ends up with the ball on 110 00:05:59.480 --> 00:05:59.959 the ground. 111 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:00.639 Right. 112 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:03.240 So we're thirty one minutes and we've got nine minutes 113 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:07.000 before halftime. We've finally got the Raiders puffing and panning 114 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:09.920 on their line, putting some pressure on Sorell puts his 115 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:13.199 arm down and he helps Corey Hawsber up off the ground. 116 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:13.839 Right. 117 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:18.879 So I know that's only a small thing. But a 118 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:21.600 couple of minutes later, five minutes later, paul A gets 119 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:24.839 across the line. He's held up. He goes back to 120 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:28.040 the ten but he doesn't have the ball. The ball 121 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.879 is on the ground over near the try line. Not 122 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:33.519 one raider picks it up, Not one raider kicks it 123 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:36.199 to him. They just ignore the fact that the ball 124 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:37.959 is on the ground. And what does he have to do. 125 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:40.600 He has to go and walk over and pick up 126 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:42.879 the ball himself, walk back to the ten meter line 127 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:46.839 and play the ball right, Which means both times the 128 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:50.279 raider's got a chance to have a little bit of 129 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:55.000 a breather reset recover. And there was one more example there, 130 00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:02.360 and that is around the same time we get a 131 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:05.279 I think we've got a penalty and Leui and Appy 132 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:07.439 come together on the I think it was the twenty 133 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:09.879 meter line and have a little meeting with like four 134 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:11.600 minutes to go in the half, and the Raiders are 135 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:13.680 puffing and pending. They've done a lot of defense and 136 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:15.600 they just sit and have a little like mother's club 137 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:18.519 meeting to talk about what they're going to do. So 138 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:22.600 I think we lack at different times that killer instinct, 139 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:27.279 that ability to do what needs to be done no 140 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:32.120 matter what. Yeah, does anybody agree that if your competitor 141 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:33.879 is down on the ground and he's this is a 142 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:36.759 guy that's been bashing you, that you shouldn't be helping 143 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:39.759 him up off the ground. In that situation with nine 144 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:42.360 minutes to go where we've got some ascendency, we're down 145 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:47.120 sixteen nil. I think that killer instincts is missing. And 146 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:49.480 some people would say, well, maybe we don't have that 147 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:51.680 killer instinct off the field as well, Like look at 148 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:54.720 the Lachland Galvin situation where we sort of rolled over 149 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:57.360 and got the money and didn't really get much out 150 00:07:57.399 --> 00:07:59.800 of it. I don't know, Eddie, killer instinct. Do you 151 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:02.000 think it's something that's missing of putting a team to 152 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:05.600 the sword of you know, being bastards and just getting 153 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:06.279 the job done. 154 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:10.120 Well. There were some interesting points you brought up there, 155 00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:12.199 and I can't say I noticed them when I was 156 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:15.319 having my bourbon and cope on Friday night watching the game. 157 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:18.600 But from my cricket coaching perspective, Joel, we have a 158 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:22.240 thing called the spirit of cricket and that's basically judged 159 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:23.600 by the umpires at the end of the year and 160 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:25.360 they give you a rating out of ten for your 161 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:27.839 spirit of the game. You know, walking when you get 162 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:31.240 out and blah blah blah. I always say to the boys, 163 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:32.879 if we ever win that award, I will not be 164 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:36.879 coaching this team again. So, long story short, you cannot 165 00:08:36.919 --> 00:08:39.600 win with a team of nice guys. So I don't 166 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:42.720 know about the whole killer instinct thing, but you need 167 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:46.120 someone with a little bit of mongrel. You need different dynamics. 168 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:48.120 It's like this podcast. You need someone to be a 169 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:52.320 little bit of a prick like me. So I agree 170 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:54.519 with a couple of those things. If Terrell may help 171 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:56.879 pick him up off the floor, don't do it. Ricky 172 00:08:56.879 --> 00:08:58.480 Stewart coach, team certainly wouldn't. 173 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:04.440 But I can't disagree that at times we do lack 174 00:09:04.480 --> 00:09:07.360 a bit of a killer instinct. I don't only think 175 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:13.840 they're massive examples of it, especially Leui and Happy. You're 176 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:15.360 having a little bit of a chat about how they're 177 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:17.360 going about it, Benjim Robbie used to do it all 178 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:19.440 the time. You'd see them getting a little hard after 179 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:22.559 a penalty and kind of plan out the play. So 180 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.039 that's not something that's unusual. But I don't think there's 181 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:30.639 any doubt that at the moment we lack that killer 182 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:33.080 instinct that get us overline. I think Nick mentioned it 183 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:36.080 that there's no points scored in that down the back 184 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:39.480 end of that game, and that the game was there 185 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:41.080 to we won. The game was one hundred percent there 186 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:44.960 to win. But I think we're kind of in a 187 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:47.600 similar spot right now to where the Bulldogs were two 188 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:50.840 years ago, where they had a bad season that first 189 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:56.399 season with Shialdo and they lost a lot of really 190 00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:58.879 close games and just didn't know how to get over 191 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:01.240 the line. I think we're stuck in that a little 192 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:05.120 bit at the moment. Now. Hopefully over the coming months 193 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:08.480 that improves a lot, because you can't deny that we're 194 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:10.720 in the fight in the game, but we're just not 195 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:12.679 getting the job done at the end, and whether that's 196 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:16.879 down to personnel or our players still not knowing what 197 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:19.519 to do to close out that game. I think it's 198 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:20.879 going to be seen over the next month. 199 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:23.840 I actually think Canberra were playing a bit grubby at 200 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:27.320 times during that game, and I actually wondered at some point, 201 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:29.080 I think it was during the first stulf whether they 202 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:32.759 were going to lose someone to have bin. I actually 203 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:35.559 missed the head butt. I saw it replayed. I think 204 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:36.799 it was after the game. I think I saw a 205 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:41.120 snippet on X about that, which is grubby play. That example, Joel, 206 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:43.960 that you were talking about with Fania, you know, failed 207 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:46.559 to pick up the ball for that set restart or 208 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:48.919 that played a ball that was actually reefed out in 209 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:52.480 the back by one of the Raiders players it away, Yeah, 210 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:54.519 which was annoying and I was waiting for a penalty 211 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:56.320 for that when it didn't come. 212 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:59.399 So, yeah, there was a lot of niggle. 213 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:02.879 Would I help Corey Hawsbro up if he was on 214 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.720 the ground, Probably not, But he's heavier and bigger than 215 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:07.279 I'm so I wouldn't be able to pick him up anyway. 216 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:11.240 But I get what you're saying. Very frustrating. Yeah, maybe 217 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:12.639 we needed to play with a bit more mongrel. 218 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:14.759 It could be right, Yeah, I mean, do they look 219 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:16.559 like a team that's willing to do anything to win? 220 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:18.440 I can't fold their effort. 221 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:22.639 I think that ef it's there, but it's that five percent, 222 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:24.279 it's that little bit extra. 223 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:27.159 Yeah. I don't think reaching your hand out to a 224 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:30.240 guy really changes that a lot. I watch a lot 225 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:33.200 of NFL and pretty much every play as players picking 226 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:35.200 opposition players up off the ground, they have a lot 227 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:37.360 more stoppages. But this was a stoppage in the game. 228 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:41.360 I don't I'm not too concerned about that. What I'm 229 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:44.399 concerned about is our inability in that last fifteen minutes 230 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:47.480 to get the job done on a game that was there. 231 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:50.399 We got closer number of times to getting over line 232 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:54.320 and taking the lead in that game. But that's where 233 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:57.360 the issue of rises for me was our inability to 234 00:11:57.519 --> 00:11:59.840 just f secute in those key moments towards the end 235 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:02.600 of the game to finish off the raid. Aside that 236 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:03.440 wire coming over the. 237 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:07.679 Top of interesting discussion across the board. Job because I'm 238 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:10.639 a believer that in a lot of sports you play 239 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:13.759 somewhat in the personality of your head coach, and that's 240 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:17.159 not necessarily a bad thing because there are different personalities 241 00:12:17.159 --> 00:12:21.360 in different ways. So you can see Ricky Stewart sometimes 242 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:24.279 his team's implode when he goes on those press conference ramps, 243 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:26.960 but there's certainly a grubby team and they're in your 244 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:29.399 face team for eighty minutes. Benji's got a different style, 245 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:32.200 but obviously it has to translate to some more wins. 246 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:35.440 What I remember about Benji as a player was that 247 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:37.879 he seemed to be one of those people that wanted 248 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:42.840 to be everybody's friend. Yeah, so you know every time 249 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:44.799 he was having a little chat with your opposition, or 250 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:47.279 he pat someone on the bum or give him a 251 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:51.200 like he didn't. He was flashy and he wanted to win. 252 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:54.759 But he also comes across as being somebody that I 253 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:58.279 think maybe that personality in the team is not quite 254 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:00.399 as hard edged as it need be. 255 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:04.039 Do you think he's Royce Hunt's friend at the moment, But. 256 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:07.399 I think Royce Hunt is a situation that is an 257 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:11.360 obvious one, you know, like if Royce Hunt's just not performing, 258 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:14.159 then he's in the right place. I'm not saying in 259 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:17.360 regards to team selections. I'm talking about it in terms 260 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:21.879 of that of that hard edge killer instinct, you know, 261 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:26.440 do do whatever it takes kind of mentality, and yeah, 262 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:28.639 I don't know, it's just worth observing. I think I 263 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:30.600 think Benji's a great guy. I had. I went to 264 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:33.720 a function long time ago and I was at the 265 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:37.440 same table, and as compared to the other first grade 266 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:39.440 player who I won't name, you know, he was really 267 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:42.919 he really made good conversation and he came across as 268 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:45.879 a really interesting and interested person. And I'm not having 269 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:49.399 a go at him, but you know, maybe maybe with 270 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:51.919 the assistance that he's got, maybe there's just something missing. 271 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:53.960 We talk a lot about attention to detail. Maybe it's 272 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:56.519 just a little bit of an attitude thing as well. 273 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:58.919 So I don't know, have it think about it. Let's 274 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:00.720 have a look at the one words admissions from the 275 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:05.440 West Tigers podcast forum. Barrow's word was closer closer to 276 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:08.879 a good win, but also closer to a fourth spoon. 277 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:13.919 Mickey b His word was save ath. We'll talk about 278 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:16.320 save Farth and a couple of others. And I'm sure 279 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:20.720 during this podcast crocodile rollers word was cursed. I asked 280 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:23.120 the crocodile roller if he meant the ground or the 281 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:25.519 team didn't come back so it could be anything, could 282 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:30.840 be any any number of things. Lorenzo fainus was Lorenzo's word, 283 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:35.320 all three look damaging. He says, if Latu plays eighty minutes, 284 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:37.759 we win that game. I tend to agree with that. 285 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:40.559 I thought he was really, really good. Mike's word was happening. 286 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:45.039 The Luaye and Latu combo works, but he says from 287 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:47.240 that performance on the rich O meet, it was poor, 288 00:14:47.360 --> 00:14:50.960 which is not quite at the bottom, but one up 289 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:53.759 from the bottom place Seek and destroy. Who's new to 290 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:57.720 the West Tigers podcast Forum Welcome? Their word was Latu 291 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:01.519 the future, much better than Galvi than ever was Tiger 292 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:02.519 Tragic fifty six. 293 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:02.919 Help. 294 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.519 Our offense needs help, Our team selections need help, our 295 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:10.759 coach needs help, and not from old boys. And our 296 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:13.000 supporters were They're beyond help. 297 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:17.600 Agreed, Agree well. 298 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:23.200 Cambra Tiger his word was moments, some little moments cost 299 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:26.960 us dirty reds inches an inch or two away from 300 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:31.039 winning yet again tiger'sman Latu. We were a better team 301 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:33.159 and attack and defense when he was on the field. 302 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:37.679 Nat Mac seventy eight Challenge, we wasted ours again. They 303 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:42.200 used theirs very well. Tigertown SFS also went for Latu 304 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:46.279 LFC Tiger details. We don't take care of the small 305 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:50.679 details in elite sport. That's the difference and Mac Tiger 306 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:53.600 come back. I'm sick of them. Play the best people 307 00:15:53.879 --> 00:15:57.159 and we will win. I'm going to just ask about 308 00:15:57.240 --> 00:16:01.679 Latu faint now, am I? Am I wrong to say 309 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:05.200 that Locke is a more difficult and more taxing position 310 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:09.240 to play than five eight. I think most people would 311 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:11.399 agree with that, Gary. 312 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:14.600 Yeah, no, one hundred percent. Yeah. And I know where 313 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:16.480 you're going with it is, if you can play sixty 314 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:19.240 minutes at lock, why can't you play eighty minutes in 315 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:22.519 the halves? And I tend to agree with that. I 316 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:27.320 find it interest The defensive workload he got through the 317 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:32.080 other night was quite big. I'm hoping and I'm expecting 318 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:34.799 on Tuesday that we see that he's named in the 319 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:38.200 halves for that game because what he's providing on the 320 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:44.200 field is fantastic. One thing I was I think watching 321 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:48.039 him play on Friday night kind of showed me what 322 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:51.799 the plan was with the Adam Randoms approach. He is 323 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:55.480 bulked up that there's no doubt that Latu Fenu is 324 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:59.840 a lot bigger than he was earlier. In the preseason. 325 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.200 Definitely last year he was a lot bigger and I 326 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:06.279 thought he handled that role in the middle really well. Yeah, 327 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:08.440 so I think it's clear that the club was looking 328 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:10.319 at Adam Rounds to come in and play half back, 329 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:13.960 with Latu taking on that lock role. So but I agree, 330 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:18.319 if you fully Joel sixty minutes at lock, I think 331 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:20.359 we would have been better just playing him eighty minutes 332 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:21.240 in Mars. 333 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:23.839 Where's the logic in that, Eddie, I don't I just 334 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:26.319 can't see how you can work that logic out. Even 335 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:32.440 forgetting minutes restrictions. This guy is supposedly, like I think 336 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:34.519 all of us fans are sitting here saying, Wow, this 337 00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:37.079 guy can really really play, and he looks to be 338 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:40.839 ready to form a combination with Leui and be one 339 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:43.440 of our harvest moving forward. Why are you flogging him 340 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:45.440 at lock? It makes no sense. 341 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:49.519 Yeah, but the context, Joel, I mean, who else is there? 342 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:52.119 We just got rid of our other five eighth and 343 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:54.599 you say you get rid of minutes restrictions. But if 344 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:56.559 it's real and they're trying to ease him back from 345 00:17:56.599 --> 00:17:59.359 a hamstring, maybe he can't play eighty minutes. So that's 346 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:01.839 all they're left. The fact that Mason was paddling after 347 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:03.720 twenty minutes, they thought, we've got to get him out there. 348 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:05.960 We're going to get both of these boys on the field. 349 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:09.839 But yeah, I'm struggling to think of another club I 350 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:11.400 could be wrong, just off the top of my head 351 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:15.240 that would throw a nineteen or twenty year old regularly 352 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:18.400 in at Lock, Like, I don't think that's good for 353 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:22.440 your development. Well just on LA two like only small 354 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.960 sample sizes, but two things I love in footballers. He 355 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:29.240 looks tough and he's got a high IQ. So I've 356 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:32.240 been super impressed with him the last month. And yeah, 357 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:34.039 I don't want to see him playing Lock for the 358 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:36.839 rest of the year. But he certainly didn't let us down. 359 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:38.359 In fact, the elevators when he came on. 360 00:18:39.559 --> 00:18:43.240 Yeah, to go on that point about the after twenty minutes, 361 00:18:43.279 --> 00:18:46.279 how much Mason was struggling, I think the decision should 362 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:48.240 have been made then to take Mason off and play 363 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:49.920 Lato in the halves for the rest of the game. 364 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:52.799 I found it quite an interesting decision, and I guess 365 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:55.680 that they just stuck with what was the planned pre 366 00:18:55.880 --> 00:19:00.000 game to put Lartu in at five eight when maceon 367 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:03.759 and was struggling from the outset of that game, and 368 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:09.160 we saw him struggling defensively. But that right side attack, 369 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:12.759 that's been probably our strongest part of our game this season. 370 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:16.640 It floundered with him playing in that role on the 371 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:20.440 right edge, and Buller had a really poor game as well. 372 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:23.759 But I think Mason being on that right edge contributed 373 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:27.200 to Buller not being what we usually see from him 374 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:29.960 on that right edge as well. So I think the 375 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:34.240 decision should have been made after twenty minutes to take 376 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:37.720 Mason off and put Latu onto that edge. But he 377 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:41.200 made a real goal of that lock role. He was 378 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:46.039 making yards with the ball in hitting the ball up defensively, 379 00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:48.559 he was incredibly sound in the middle of the field. 380 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:51.480 So I thought he was excellent in that lock role, 381 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:53.759 and I can see why the club would be looking 382 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:55.880 at him as an option for that. The thing is, 383 00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:58.240 I think I think he's best what for us right 384 00:19:58.279 --> 00:20:01.279 now is in the halves, and and I've said earlier 385 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:03.519 I want to see him picked in the halves on 386 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:04.799 Tuesday for Friday night. 387 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:08.160 Is it good for him? No? Long term Gary locks 388 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:09.960 are running around in the competition, No. 389 00:20:09.880 --> 00:20:14.400 There's not. And right now it's the hardest place to 390 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:15.759 play on the field because you've got to have that 391 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:18.240 ball skills, but you've all got also got to be 392 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:22.119 a threat running the ball. The best locks, that best 393 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:24.920 ball playing locks are so good as a ball playing 394 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:27.319 option because they are a danger of running the ball. 395 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:29.839 They are a danger if you don't commit two three 396 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:32.720 defenders to them, that they're going to drive straight through 397 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:34.559 the middle of you. That's what you see with a 398 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:37.680 guy like Asia let you go, and that's what we're 399 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:40.880 seeing from Latu on on Friday night. He was a 400 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:45.160 threat running the ball as a ball hit ups and 401 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:48.480